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ZX / Re: ZX Cameos
« on: January 09, 2010, 02:17:20 PM »Quote
Are you sure you're not confusing theories, Zan?
No, there have been a gazillion newbies who came in after Z4 and went exclaiming: I think the Guardians died in Omega's explosion! I honestly can't believe you don't remember this. We ironically shot down that theory time and time again.
The theory of them being hit by Ragnarok was never ever proposed. Probably due to their location in Vile's Incident.
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that indicates that no further information is needed
Like no further information was needed to understand Zero becoming Omega? As we know it, the Rockman series has a bad reputation with providing the relevant information within the game that it is needed, often obtaining said info by interview and sourcebooks.
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except for Zero's own survival, which works against it.
Zero's own survival demanded the Mother Elf's interference it would seem, bringing him back to the resistance base, unconscious. Why is Zero unconscious? The game gives us no reason for Zero to be, yet he is. Now considering that that the Mother Elf is clearly smitten with Zero and thus occupied with solely him, and that X lacks the power to pull off the same trick, we leave the ultimate faith of the three Guardians quite mysterious. Whatever knocked Zero unconscious might have affected them somehow as well. Let us not forget that all three of them were on the verge of death to begin with.
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Technically speaking, we don't even know that they're looking at Ragnarok. The matter of context, that being it appears in Vile's Incident, is the only thing gearing it towards that event. But once Aizu and co. have given the "fanservice; we just threw it in there" dismissal, even that can't be taken for granted. They could be looking at a comet on their way to fight Omega, for all we know.
And that's pretty much what I'm trying to say here, we don't quite know what it is we're looking at there. From them being alive or dead, Ragnarok or a comet, or even that we're in the Substance World to begin with. We can only make educated guesses, since we have no context of that scene. Within Vile's Incident too, that image is a great oddity, there's no definite way a photograph of that scene could have been taken, Montagne could never have included it in his report, yet we see it clearly as part of it. It's clearly some image solely the fans can see, instead of an actual part of Vile's Incident's narrative.
About the only thing we can tell is that the scene could be most likely after Will4, as all the Four Guardians are united with each other and Master X. X and Phantom are the only ones confirmed as dead, somehow or other those previously unseen fancy coats came to be, and there's some falling star in the sky.
I don't know how anybody can place these event between Will4 and Retrospect1. But like the Ragnarok interpretation, it's all a matter of Inti rationalizing it adequately. You know, I could care less about the Guardians' actual moment of death, as long as there is some epic scene to be written there. It's just very sad that Inti hasn't seen it fit to write and present this scene.
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False. They said Operation Ragnarok, not Ragnarok the space station. Big difference.
Point stands, he did not get help from the four Guardians, unless this help is as Cyber Elves. Either Inti's Four Guardian help idea is no longer valid, or they can indeed do things when they're dead. The latter would actually nicely pave the way to ZX.
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