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Anime & Manga / Re: Bleach (Manga Discussion Mainly)
« on: July 30, 2009, 12:08:55 AM »



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Rockman Series / Re: Mega Man Graphics and Sprites
« on: July 29, 2009, 01:39:10 AM »
They added some pixels on the back of his head.

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X / Re: What did Lumine mean?
« on: July 28, 2009, 05:02:25 PM »
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In X6, Gate discovered a piece of Zero and continually makes reference to Zero's DNA.  Was he referring to DNA Program, DNA Soul, or something completely different?

A "DNA soul" is a DNA program, the operational DNA (as in their mind). But Gate only had the body, meaning all DNA programs except his soul's.

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Also, the Guardians in the Mega Man Zero series are said to be derived from X's DNA.  Which kind of DNA would that be?

Same case, all DNA of the body, not the soul.

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Parts made out of souls?

Iris says they supply "energy" for the creation of parts.

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X / Re: What did Lumine mean?
« on: July 28, 2009, 03:02:58 PM »
It's not the same thing as biological DNA with its chemicals and stuff, it just has a similar function. And can be used as currency, apparently...

DNA programs and DNA Souls are not the same thing. XS is about "DNA Souls". The DNA Soul from XS is a Repliroid's operational DNA program; the soul. One of the many DNA programs inside of a Repliroid.

The "Soul Items" from XS are NOT a currency, it is used as an energy resource for the production of items.

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Soul Eraser manual
Story
The program of a repliroid suddenly disappears...

As if its soul itself were extracted, 2 times a repliroid has been transformed to immobile scrap iron by way of an unknown cause, a fearful phenomenon which became known as "erasure." [sic. "erase"]

And then finally, the incident occurred. On a repliroid research facility on the South Seas island "Laguzland" ["raguzurando"] , the repliroids' signatures instantly vanished! A mass repliroid erasure!

What has occurred on Laguzland? Orders for the mission are sent out to Iregular Hunters X and Zero!

Soul Item page from the Soul Eraser manual, as told by Iris.
Here I'll introduce the "Soul Item." With these, I can create parts using the energy from the Soul Items. When the parts are created, you can equip them to utilize their effects. Surely this should be most helpful in certain situations. Soul Items are dropped by defeated enemies. Please collect as many of them as you can!

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Compendium of RockmanX
DNA Program
Program that makes up the characteristics of a repliroid. Zero's Learning ability utilizes this, but Axl's ability to completely copy a repliroid is rare.

Erasure
The phenomenon where a repliroid's operation program disappears all the sudden. An erased repliroid loses all consciousness, reduced to being like so much scrap iron. During the Nightmare Incident, a phenomenon similar erasure happened to Isoc.

DNA Soul
A repliroid's operational [mobilization/movement] DNA program that has been pulled out. It appears that Berkana took the souls from the erased repliroids and inserted them for use in the bodies of Iregulars.

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X / Re: What did Lumine mean?
« on: July 28, 2009, 02:45:05 PM »
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Namely, they get to dodge the question of why there is no observable power difference between good and evil X2 Zeros.  Even if we are to consider that scenario, we have to question what state exactly Zero is in, considering how it contrasts to X5, and although I know you'll argue against me on this (we've been over it before), I still perceive a power difference between the X4 flashback and MHX, which leaves X2 as the only aberration.

No observable power difference? How do we even know how a regular X2 boss Zero would fight? Really any difference you're observing in the X4 flashbacks lies with endurance and melee strength. With him not using his buster in the flashback and him not using melee in X2, you have no comparison between. For all we know X4 flashback Zero and X1 Zero have the exact same buster output. Much like X2 Zero and X2 boss Zero. For all we know X2 boss Zero has improved endurance and melee strength, much like the flashback Zero.

All in all, there is no aberration because there is no comparison to be made.

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Yet another loophole to add to the ambiguity of the interview, and one more reason why asking the fans to "use their imaginations" is not a concrete answer as it invokes a wide variety of ends depending on who you ask.  If we're differentiating between Zero's initial concept and Zero's finalized "Awakened" programming, that's opening up a whole new can of worms.

I think it's a largely irrelevant difference; there are always Vile made changes to that "original coding". None of them match Omega perfectly and the remaining differences are explained as Vile's changes to the coding.

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If so then Weil outdid Wily's plans.  Besides being improbable for another evil-doer to outperform Wily with his own creation

With Wily having aided both Sigma and Gate in their world domination attempts, what is to say Wily himself did not assist Dr. Vile?

I do believe that MarshmallowMan has a point in that Wily is indeed helping others with World Domination, even if he himself no longer actively tries. Wily does primarily focus on his rivalry as his own personal goal, but there's no rush. By Isoc's words; he can capture him at any time. Wily being Wily, is it so weird that he enjoys people making use of the legacy he left behind as a foundation? Is it so weird that he has a soft spot for people trying exactly what he himself did over and over again? With the entire world being based on Dr. Right's creations, why would Wily not find it an honor for others to view his work as superior, why would he not enjoy others following in  his footsteps?

If there was any hidden world domination agenda behind him helping Gate and Sigma, he would be actively doing the world domination thing any other time. If it was all about recovering Zero, he wouldn't be helping them in the first place. He really seems to be helping the two out of some twisted Wily form of sincerity.

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Weil's using his registry number to refer to him.

DR. W LASTNo ZERO
DR. W. NO INFINITY

How does that refer to Dr. Vile at all? His symbol is the V, not the W. Zero is not his "last number". The Vile Numbers postdate Omega by a century.

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I don't think Phantom would be finding any grand revelations in Cyberspace.

Neo Arcadia hid Dr. Vile's sin. The history of the Elf Wars was covered up. That is what Phantom learned. The events leading up to Elf Wars are not hidden; Zero's Wily origin is known, the fact that Zero is a copy, is not. Phantom refers to the fact that Zero being a mere copy has no right being called a hero.

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Gate, to achieve recognition for his work and vengeance for crimes against him.  How long do you think Wily would fly with that?

Gate's goal is the EXACT same as Dr. Wily's himself. Wily was exiled for the nature of his experiments as people did not recognize his genius compared to Right's. Why would he not fly with his own ambition?


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Fan Creations / Re: I still got it. (Hypershell's crap)
« on: July 27, 2009, 04:12:01 PM »
Did I mention the part where Sigma made a mockery of the court by using his Sigma Virus on the Jury?

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X / Re: What did Lumine mean?
« on: July 27, 2009, 02:20:01 PM »
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If I've missed something overtly relevant, do correct me. Have I forgotten something obvious this time?

I just recall that before we had the translated MMZOCW, from the Japanese RZOCW, there were statements that likened Weil's ambition for Zero to Wily's own. I've however not heard anything of the sort from the English book. Maybe that was just an interpretation of Three Keys and other quotes?

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Fan Creations / Re: I still got it. (Hypershell's crap)
« on: July 27, 2009, 03:17:14 AM »
She's pointing at prosecutor Zero. He's advocating the case that he himself is an Irregular that killed Iris. Iris objects, something about her own emotional instability, stupidty, Ultimate Soldier programs and stuff like that. Oh and the fact that she's standing right there, so she obviously never died.

As a side note, X is the judge.

Of course, that did not go so well when TK31 got trialed.

GUILTY!

But Master-X.... he isn't even here to defend himself.

I said GUILTY!

And thus starts the part where X and Zero fight, accusing each other of going irregular. If you thought the Virus being everywhere in X5 had anything to do with that, they lied to you.

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X / Re: Timeline of X
« on: July 26, 2009, 10:39:50 PM »
I suppose you could read it that way, IF you somehow confuse Giga City for being around when it didn't exist yet....

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X / Re: Timeline of X
« on: July 26, 2009, 03:34:01 PM »
All production was stopped after X8. Since they're producing again, it's has restarted. Doesn't you know, mean they had to go build a new facility instead of reusing the one they already had.

As for the rumor status. Marino found out that Spider went there. And the Cadre Imposters are additional proof of its existence.

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ZX / Re: French influence on ZX
« on: July 25, 2009, 01:12:46 PM »
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Then they stop the trend in ZXA.

Just because they started to focus on different people does not mean they stopped the trend.

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Fan Creations / Re: Zan's stuff
« on: July 25, 2009, 01:07:59 AM »

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They still exist in my heart ;_;

They exist, but you need to beat the cow level to unlock it.

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ZX / Re: French influence on ZX
« on: July 23, 2009, 11:33:39 AM »
He never was either. Everyone just assumed a German theme for him for some reason.

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ZX / Re: French influence on ZX
« on: July 23, 2009, 10:57:48 AM »
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Kraft

Craft as of RZOCW's release.

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ZX / Re: French influence on ZX
« on: July 23, 2009, 10:47:04 AM »
The ENTIRE Resistance from ZERO has a french name. Even the Baby Elves (to Pray and Create), Neige and Montagne.

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Cind ville, c'est notre espoir can be translated as - ''5 City, its our hope'' // sounds pretty weird I know O_o

"Cinq Ville" is the name of the city from ZX. Just as "Grand Nuage" is the name for Guardian Base.

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X / Re: What did Lumine mean?
« on: July 22, 2009, 03:37:27 PM »
Marshmallow, wasn't there some quote that likened Weil's plans for Omega to what Wily originally intended? (World domination.)

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Original / Re: Mega Man 9's secret?
« on: July 22, 2009, 12:15:50 AM »
Obtained by getting exactly 33000 screens and then killing yourself in a certain spike pit.

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X / Re: Why aren't copy reploids near unkillable?
« on: July 21, 2009, 10:48:01 PM »
...But just saying "Nanites" doesn't explain much.

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X / Re: The Z Buster
« on: July 21, 2009, 01:27:55 PM »
X6 sigma is pathetic regardless of whatever the hell you're using.

He didn't say about making it easier, he said about making it FASTER.

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X / Re: How exactly was Wily brought back by the virus?
« on: July 21, 2009, 12:15:39 AM »
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Akashik Records.

Cyberspace. Use the word.

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X / Re: The Z Buster
« on: July 20, 2009, 02:54:35 PM »
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the whole chest armor is Grey's

-Albert made Model A, Albert made Grey to use Model A.
-The chest is not exact, several details have changed and the vest underneath is added.
-Grey's chest armor dissolves only to be replaced with Model A's.

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For many obvious reasons, Model A is clearly designed after Axl.

There's also the fact that both Grey and Ashe have personalities and themes going that relate to Axl.

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I'm seriously wondering if Giro didn't have some connection with Ciel, for that reason.

I do wonder if these vests somehow double as armor. (Even when they're open?) In Hu/Re form they are prone to taking damage, Ashe especially. They take damage comparable to what a fully armored Rockman would. Of course, that could just be the machine body doing its thing.

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Rockman Series / Re: Mega Man Graphics and Sprites
« on: July 19, 2009, 11:51:45 PM »
While it was Doki Doki panic originally, it does not change a fact that Mario got three sprites for three games. After all, there was a Mario. Right?

But since the sprite style was originally developed for Doki Doki Panic instead of Mario, it's a bad example of sprites changing with each game. And Mario3 is in a different style simply because by that time, the true graphical potential of the NES became clear.

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Anime & Manga / Re: Fullmetal Alchemist 2
« on: July 19, 2009, 11:04:35 PM »
But the scene in question was not in the first anime. They did include it, but only in such a ridiculously half-assed way that it mucks up the later revisit. But I guess that's the price we have to pay for giant Cornello.

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Rockman Series / Re: Mega Man Graphics and Sprites
« on: July 19, 2009, 11:01:59 PM »
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I don't see why.  Can you explain please? 

Because the first two Mario's are identical. Unless you count that Mario game that wasn't originally a Mario game.

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