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X / Re: Do you know what makes me sad?

« on: October 24, 2009, 02:31:07 AM »

Oh no not this lecture again!  Can't you just let people disagree with you about this?

But Hypershell is absolutely correct; it doesn't work. Under the same limitations they can produce something much greater than that.

To give an example of what could be done:
http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixelart/43694.htm

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Rockman Series / Re: The PC games

« on: October 24, 2009, 01:21:11 AM »

Strategy is barely even considerable as a completed game from I've seen. Fan doesn't even have lines...

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X / Re: Do you know what makes me sad?

« on: October 23, 2009, 10:19:47 PM »

I demand a pseudo three dimensional DASH game with 8-bit sprites. Polygons aren't retro enough.

And Keno, play X7, there's your 2.5D crouching.

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Zero / Re: MegaMan Zero, then and now.

« on: October 23, 2009, 10:16:02 PM »

Flame, MANGA IS NOT CANON. =p

Only the Rockman ZERO manga says 22XX. Whereas in terms of the games, XCM is the only game that is confirmed as taking place in 22XX. The only game related reference to 22XX as the ZERO-series exists in some of the earliest advertisements for the game.

The Rockman ZERO series takes place 150 years or more after Zero seals himself away. Zero has yet to seal himself in the X-series as of 22XX. Therefore unknown century, unknown millennium.

I could tell you the exact time, day and month one attack from Ragnarok killed 15 million, though.

Eh? Why not? I seriously wanna know about the matter.

I'll never tell you!

Except, I already seriously explained it to you in the last post.

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Zero / Re: Was Neo Arcadia a communist dictatorship?

« on: October 23, 2009, 07:29:00 PM »

You mean those people who hijacked a working satellite cannon, those that aimed a mind altering nuke at the world and those that infected the world population with tentacle creatures?

Also, none of them listened and just attacked X.

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Zero / Re: MegaMan Zero, then and now.

« on: October 23, 2009, 07:22:33 PM »

As stated above Zero has Dragon Slash to handle the likes of Jentra. 

Which I don't think he has at that time. Of course, Force Metal and the aerial disadvantage only adds insult to injury. As for X, it's his hobby to start the game weaker than Zero.

24XX.

Unknown date is unknown.

And X-series weaponry has no relevance to ZERO-series weaponry because Zero had no weapons when Passy revived him.

could someone answer my questions from before?

Most certainly not.

One thing though, that id like to know, is when exactly the reploid/human equality laws were passed. how long after Legions founding?

At the time of Legions' founding.

depending on when, she may have avoided them.

Nick: I'm Nick... Who are you? As you can see, I'm an old-model Reploid! Just because I'm old doesn't mean that my life cycle settings are any longer. It just means that I'm a previous generation Reploid.

Hmm... Another question to add to my previous inquiry, how the hell is it that they let Weil use Zero's body? I mean, it would be just as easy, if not more, to just wake up the damn bastard rather than going behind his back and donating his body while his brain is still sleeping.

Because they figured Omega would be far more effective in mass exterminating irregulars compared to Zero?

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Rockman Series / Re: The PC games

« on: October 23, 2009, 05:10:17 PM »

I don't particularly like the two DOS games made by Hi-Tech and Rozner Labs, but that doesn't mean they aren't Rockman games.

But they're not "Rockman" games. They're "MegaMan" games.

And there's a distinct difference between being licensed by one branch of Capcom and being licensed by another.

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Zero / Re: Was Neo Arcadia a communist dictatorship?

« on: October 23, 2009, 02:12:50 PM »

No, X's response to that is the well known fact that his adversaries are all killing millions of innocents and still declare that they're not irregular.

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Zero / Re: MegaMan Zero, then and now.

« on: October 23, 2009, 02:10:34 PM »

The second saber is probably the Triple Rod, given by Cerveau. In non extended form it's just another Z-saber. Likewise, the Shield Boomerang, Chain Rod and Recoil Rod work in similar fashions; it's the Z-saber transformed and used differently.

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Zero / Re: MegaMan Zero, then and now.

« on: October 22, 2009, 11:27:15 PM »

We can't really be sure that the virus was eradicated from the entire populace, only that the fighting quickly ended. Leading to a brief time of recorded peace where X ideally isn't fighting so much but might have been too brief for X to consider any kind of end to the fighting in retrospect. Followed by the 4 year down and dirty tragic Elf Wars.

Thing is, we're talking about a conflict that spanned centuries, how do you define "quickly" in regards to something like that?

I think for the first sealing, this time period where Mother Elf and X are taking of the irregulars, is the only logical one for Zero not to be used in Virus experiments, even though the fighting is still going on.

What might be interesting to consider here, is that Dr.Vile was said to create Omega to end the irregular wars.. if this extended time period of fighting and use of Mother Elf existed, was Vile perhaps then granted the use of Zero's body as another measure to end the war? It would certainly add to him being unhappy about the peace that came about by Mother Elf, and continuing to work on his Omega project as the world was destroyed by his behind the scenes actions.

The other day I entertained a brief notion that maybe all the Shining Arms made appearances in Z1

I wonder, in RTRZ, how exactly did they describe the Shining Arms? If they were already described as the weapons used by the top-class irregular hunters of the irregular wars, then we probably have to look elsewhere than the Mythos Repliroids.

We have the Guardians, a secretive vigilante group bordering on the fringe of what is legal or the social norm, and are likely to be guilty of circumventing the life span equality laws. They generally use codenames for each other, presumably not just because it's cool but for their own protection as well. For them a certain level of vagueness in identity may be a virtue.

Vigilante? Given the lack of organized irregular hunters amongst Legions, I always got the impression they were more official than that. At least, the english ZX site referred to them as a secret government organization.

Anything to add that might clear this up?

【BUSTERSHOT】
レジスタンスが携帯する旧式ウェポン。
ゼットセイバーの柄をマガジンにすることで
強力なエネルギーブレットを射出することが
可能になった。

Bustershot
An old style weapon carried by the Resistance. Applying the Z-saber's handle into the magazine, it becomes possible to fire stronger energy bullets.

We're so going to have to force you to translate the rest of that site, or the whole booklet for that matter. You just watch, someday!

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Zero / Re: MegaMan Zero, then and now.

« on: October 22, 2009, 08:27:57 PM »

http://www.inti.co.jp/cd/zero1/index.htm

Get equipped with the ability to read moonspeak, watch the pretty pictures and pay attention to the game mechanics; Zero can not charge the bustershot until he gets the Z-saber.

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Zero / Re: Was Neo Arcadia a communist dictatorship?

« on: October 22, 2009, 08:25:08 PM »

That is false. Your claim has no basis because the humans are neither brave nor foolish enough to try and fight against Repliroids, let alone become antagonistic toward the Hunters. X's response toward a human in direct combat is therefore a hypothetical scenario we cannot confirm.

Furthermore, it is a stated fact that X cares equally for both robots and humans. The only way humans are favored is in the social stigma of irregularity, that is, the fear of being branded an irregular and the paranoia that comes with the presence of the virus.

What is comes down to is that X is biased toward neither humans nor Repliroids, he's only biased toward evil.

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Zero / Re: Was Neo Arcadia a communist dictatorship?

« on: October 22, 2009, 06:26:26 PM »

X has always cared more for humans than robots.

No, X cares equally for both humans and Repliroids.

Copy-X is a wholly different matter.

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Zero / Re: MegaMan Zero, then and now.

« on: October 22, 2009, 06:25:28 PM »

Still waiting for MarshmallowMan's belated answer to my previous wall of text.

Who says that his Z-Buster in X7,X8 and CM malfunctioned?

He didn't say it malfunctioned, he simply said it was absent. Its absence means we have no way of knowing what happened to it between the X and ZERO series. Therefore, any explanation for its absence that will be given in due time, can be linked to giving Omega a near identical gun as Milan's. There's simply no reason to assume that the bustershot overwrites the Z-buster's existence in the matter you're proposing.

Though, it might just be the case that it really isn't usable anymore. Note that he's an especially poor match with Mach Jentra even in cutscenes, because Jentra is an aerial adversary and Zero is a melee fighter. Likewise, Zero vanishes from the cutscene when the Federation attacks them with flying mechaniloids.

The fact remains that Omega and Zero use the same model of buster.  So if Omega's buster is the Z-Buster, then simple logic dictates that Milan is running around with the copy Z-Buster.  But this is not the case.

Another thing that discounts Thanatos' notion is we have to factor in the use of the Z-saber as the bustershot's magazine to allow for charging. The Z-saber isn't part of Zero until X2, yet his Z-buster has noticeable charge capabilities even back then. Likewise, the Z-saber upgrade that allows for charging has not yet appeared in the X-series and the bustershot in question seems designed to work with it.

It would be okay, only if she have mentioned her name in the first place. I hate it to be kept dumb and I would have asked after her name, when I was Aile or Vent. It is first unpolite and second not helpful, if that person went missing. You understand?

What's so odd about calling your "sister", your "sister"? Given the situation, her name was the least important thing for them to know. Even if they asked for her name, to them, Ciel will always be Prairie's sister, because they don't know Ciel personally, thus they would refer to her as such.

Likewise, there was no need for her to identify the Livemetals by their former names, as everyone now knows them by their current names.

Things won't get confusing, when the back- and story are explained clearly to the player.

The problem with explaining everything is that it doubles the amount of text and slows down the game to boring levels. The ZX-series explains everything needed to understand it, everything else is needless info to the situation at hand.

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Rockman Series / Re: Ancient Theories/Fanon

« on: October 22, 2009, 06:03:33 PM »

Who's Light?

Thomas Xavier Light, alias Dr. Wright. That guy mentioned in the manual of the first historical simulation. His assistant is Albert W. Wily.

The W. stands for Jerome.

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Rockman Series / Re: Ancient Theories/Fanon

« on: October 21, 2009, 10:29:34 PM »

The Official Guide to Mega Man

You know, we really need to properly compile all of this information somewhere. So THAT is where Light's first name of "Xavier" comes from.

between the years 2035 and 2055

200X >.>

But if that's "history", at which time are they recollecting all of this? You could consider any mistakes made as historical inaccuracies.

The overall idea here reminds me of how the Dune universe has both the original books, and the newer books to form its canon. When some of the original books were still being written, another author developed an encyclopedia with help from the books' actual author. This book presented itself as a historical recollection of events, so it shrugged off inconsistencies by considering them historical inaccuracies. Over time, the original author occasionally used ideas from the encyclopedia to write his books. But when the author of the originals died and his son took up the mantle, all the newer stories made no efforts to take ideas from the encyclopedia and clearly decided to contradict it.

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Original / Re: About Time Travel...

« on: October 20, 2009, 09:24:30 PM »

Not so much impossible as "no idea how it could possibly work". Very few things are definitely impossible according to science, one example being the perpeetum mobile.

But I digress.

Both the perpetual motion machine and time travel are for similar reasons impossible: the laws of thermodynamics. The perpetual motion machine is impossible by the first law, time travel is impossible by the second law. To achieve either, you need to literally rewrite the physics of the universe to do the exact opposite of what they do know, and maybe duplicate yourself to replace you who has stepped outside of the influence of negative time in order to ensure the past is the very past you remember.

Very easy to do in fiction, 'impossible' in the real world.

Which is very much why I said link to tvtropez instead of link to wikipedia >.>

In Rockman, it seems quite easily done, if your name is Wily or Light. Makes you wonder why this technology never appeared in the future. Not even Chronoforce controls time, apparently that's just the perception of time for robotic lifeforms (though certain game mechanics make this very questionable.) And who knows what Crystal Snail actually does to mess up your gameplay. TimeMan and Flashman on the other hand really do seem to manipulate time.

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Original / Re: About Time Travel...

« on: October 20, 2009, 08:26:23 PM »

You'd be better off just linking to the the tvtropez articles on time travel. That should cover pretty much every concept.

Thing is, time travel is something that's impossible in reality; it's solely a fictional device. As solely fictional, the logic behind is different for each fictional universe and might not even be internally consistent. As such, we only need to focus on the time travel intricacies of the Rockman universe. Other fictional universes are only relevant in comparing if similar mechanics are at work.

In regards to Quint, it is a future that still may come to pass. And it's a future that's highly interesting to delve into when comparing it to the X-series.

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Anime & Manga / Re: One Piece

« on: October 20, 2009, 05:09:19 PM »

It definitely seems to be done to develop everyone a bit more and delve into aspects of the settings. Franky and Robin's scenario seem very important. Can't wait till we see Vegapunk one of these days.

But whatever Kuma was planning? Who knows.

So, watched the anime's depiction of the crew's whereabouts yet?

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Original / Re: About Time Travel...

« on: October 19, 2009, 12:56:51 AM »

I do not think Keno's opinion is a great way to measure relevance.

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Rockman Series / Re: Out of all the villains...

« on: October 19, 2009, 12:51:40 AM »

I dont think he does. It wouldnt make sense.

Flame, what did you think Hypershell meant when he said X5 killed Zero in a boss explosion without regard for proximity?

Well no [parasitic bomb]. That can apply to everything.

Not really, there's a certain max health when no upgrades are applied. No attack but Phantom's suicide exceeds in damage a non upgraded Zero's health.

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Original / Re: About Time Travel...

« on: October 18, 2009, 03:55:05 PM »

To bring this discussion back to Rockman, it would seem that by accord of Megaworld, any changes done in the past, indeed take some time to hit the future. When Wily traveled back in time, changes to the timeline were noted by Light, but were slow enough to allow Rockman to travel back himself and undo Wily's.

Applying that to Quint and R-Shadow. Quint's future was gradually changed to become the future of R-Shadow, but with R-Shadow himself traveling back into the past, a new future was again born. As such, the future in which Rock becomes Quint and the future in which R-Shadow destroys the world can both be avoided.

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General / Re: Why is all caps cool in Japan?

« on: October 18, 2009, 12:53:48 PM »

You know, I find your username incredibly ironic.

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X / Re: How would you describe Sigma?

« on: October 18, 2009, 12:28:33 PM »

Don't forget Wily's unaccounted disappearance after X6.

That's a completely separate matter altogether.

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Zero / Re: Was Neo Arcadia a communist dictatorship?

« on: October 17, 2009, 05:02:54 PM »

Neige was a journalist and Ciel was a scientist, you don't think that's work?

Likewise, André mentioned humans still go to school.

More importantly, was there a currency of some sort (EC?)

Zenny. The most stable currency to ever exist.