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Rockman & Community => Rockman Series => Original => Topic started by: CyberXIII on January 09, 2010, 05:00:49 PM
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Bass was introduced as a rival and foil to Mega Man. Basically, his evil counterpart.
However, we already had two or three versions of this. The Mega Man copy, Proto Man, and Quint all followed the same plot in their initial appearances.
The main difference with Bass was that he was actually his own character. Now a lot of people label him an "emo" angst-bucket in the style of Shadow the Hedgehog...never mind that Bass predates the latter by about a decade. And then there's the fact that Bass expresses no emotions besides pride and anger...
Thoughts on this?
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No. He does not. He hates Megaman. I hate Megaman.
I like him.
Shadow also isn't emo... once upon a time he kind of was, tough. Now however, he's far from it.
Forte is never like: "MEGAMAN! CRAWLING IN MY SKIIIN!"
He's more like: "MEGAMAN I KILL YOU PEW PEW PEW"
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You're still around asking stupid questions, I see.
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And then there's the fact that Bass expresses no emotions besides pride and anger...
Very emo, I agree. This is a well known trait of emos.
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You're still around asking stupid questions, I see.
And you're still a jerk, I see.
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You didn't provide any evidence apart from "he has similarities to Shadow" and "he's angry all the time".
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You didn't provide any evidence apart from "he has similarities to Shadow" and "he's angry all the time".
I used those as examples of the most common complaints against his character.
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I guess I'll join the fun.
Forte = Knuckles = Rage
Go think about this for a bit, then come back. >U<
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I see Bass more as egoistic raging type. He just wants to show everybody that HE is the strongest robot ever created and doesn't care who he has to destroy to do so or what impact it could have on anything.
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If anything, he's a whiny brat. Always wanting to beat Mega Man, always wanting to become the strongest robot, that's all he ever thinks about. Granted that's exactly what he was programmed to be like, he never really thinks about how to come about it, and just keeps trying to beat'em up. Never going up to Wily and saying "Hey, gimme powers to beat Mega man" or no thinking of plans to bring about Mega Man's downfall and make him weaker, he just wants to beat him with his own two hands. Granted that's pretty admirable of him to only rely on himself, the problem lies in that: he relies ONLY on himself and sometimes Treble. Mega Man has Rush, Dr. Light, Roll, and Beat and reasons to protect them, something Bass doesn't have or understand, so it ends up being a "I fight for my friends thus giving me power" shtick.
tl;dr, Bass' character flaw of being solo makes him a loser and whiny brat.
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He smolders with generic rage.
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No. The only reason I think he expresses pride and anger is because he is programmed to do so, but pride and anger aren't his own emotions. He can't stand losing to megaman, but joins forces with him later. This is more of the rival-type, although he can be a sore loser. He shows logic.
You want to know why he loses so much? Because he was created by Dr. Wily. Dr. Wily always loses, Megaman always wins.
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Classic Bass, no? See:
Forte = Knuckles = Rage
EXE Bass on the other hand...
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Wha--- I mean, what? Do we really have nothing else to talk about nowadays? XD
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Wha--- I mean, what? Do we really have nothing else to talk about nowadays? XD
I guess I'll join the fun.
That's how boredom is, Jelly. ^^;
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It's not like this board has many uses besides killing boredom
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You want to know why he loses so much? Because he was created by Dr. Wily. Dr. Wily always loses, Megaman always wins.
A certain long haired blondie wants a talk with you
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EXE Bass on the other hand...
Is just brooding and hate, no sadness or angst.
Bass.EXE = Chaos = Hate
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Again with the Sonic and Megaman are similar [parasitic bomb]? To me, I see Bass as an anti-hero, always wanting to best the hero before the villan does (or in a sense, hired to take out the hero), it's a classic, and it should be left that way. Since when being an anti-hero requires going emo? Bass is pretty much a loudmouth and a showoff, two traits that are usually a classic amongst some villans. :P
And as for shadow, Eggman was with him for the duriation of SA2 (Set as a distraction, while framing Sonic in the process), until he redeems himself in the end, until Sega pulled a Capcom and somehow brought him back.
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Forte = Emo? Oh hell no! To restate what has been stated in at least half of the posts on this topic so far, he's just prideful and angry. There is no sadness, angst, or attempted self-destruction. He relies only on himself and, periodically, Gospel. Also, unlike Rockman, who likes Dr. Light, Forte pretty much hates Wily and, more often than not, pursues his own goals rather than going along with his creator's, despite them kinda going hand-in-hand. Also, Wily never built Forte a support team.
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Relevant.
(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs9/f/2006/343/2/6/Rockman_the_Hedgehog_by_NeoSlashott.jpg)
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Relevant.
(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs9/f/2006/343/2/6/Rockman_the_Hedgehog_by_NeoSlashott.jpg)
Honestly, that is kinda funny in an ironic way.
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To me, Bass just seems hell-bent on defeating Mega Man and proving himself stronger than all other bots. :\
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The original Japanese seemed to intend to make him more arrogant, but int he US translation he comes off as more angry. Personally I like his anger, it makes him more than just an evil Megaman after all. Not to mention how he just can't stand that he's destined to be a hero (at least if you ask Duo), which is also an appealing part of his character.
X in Megaman X7. THAT is an emo robot. Bass does not even approach that. Rage filled angst, yes, but emo, not at all.
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You want to know why he loses so much? Because he was created by Dr. Wily. Dr. Wily always loses, Megaman always wins.
A certain long haired blondie wants a talk with you
I bet X can still kick his ass.
OHHH SNAAPP!! IT'S ON NOW!! XD
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Doesn't Roll like Forte/Bass in the Manga?
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^ I've never read the manga myself, but from what I've read about it, yes.
As for the topic subject, whoever it was that labeled Bass as an emo truly doesn't know the true definition of that. For him to be an emo, he would have to be one of those people who are constantly whining about how their life sucks, and are overcome with suicidal thoughts, or something along the lines of that. I've never seen Bass (or even Shadow the Hedgehog for that matter) do anything even REMOTELY close to this. Bass comes off as more of an arrogant prick, rather than a crybaby emo.
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I just hate dark rival characters as a whole, period.
With a few notable exceptions.
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Bass isn´t dark...just simple programmed :P
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Bass comes off as more of an arrogant prick, rather than a crybaby emo.
This
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...I think people here need to look up what being an emo means...
Bass isn't really one. As stated, he's just an arrogant [Bumpity-Boom!]. If anything, he's more a pushy rival who wants to beat up the main character to prove he's better, but still has good intentions... in an odd way.
He'd fall more under the "anti-hero" archetype, akin to Vegeta, in that he'll still do good, but still runs his own agenda, usually ego driven, so the reasoning isn't as pure or proper as a normal hero.
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Bass isn't emo. When I think Bass, I think stern and goal oriented...not morose and contemplating about why he's inferior because he think's he's exactly the opposite of inferior.
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Obsecive-compulsive
What did you expect? it was wily's first attempt whit bassilium.
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No. I'm pretty sure he predates the whole emo scene anyways.