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Rockman & Community => Rockman Series => Original => Topic started by: HyperSonicEXE on November 14, 2008, 04:47:54 AM
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Why would it be "Lead, to direct"? That makes absolutely no sense, other than describing how it works, but it's not grammatically correct like every other weapon.
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It *is* lead as in "to direct". This was news on MM Network back in the day.
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The bubble led!
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...wha?
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Then they should have named it Tracker Bubble or Scout Bubble,
Because it could also be "Bubble Lead" the element, because it drops.
Any other "bubble" weapon has risen. Not this one.
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If it was lead-the-element then it should just drop like a stone and stay in place. It's a pretty good name tho, considering one bubble "leads" the other along the floor.
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Wait, does it ever bounce in the water like BubbleMan's bubbles, or is it yet another weapon that works nothing like the way it does for the boss you get it from?
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Well, maybe it's just Engrish, since you know, the Japanese spelling is バブル リード (as in "to direct") or something similar IIRC.
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Yeah, they probably just misspelled it in the Japanese version.
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I always thought it was just lead in the bubbles, which is why they didn't float away and why they actually hurt stuff. There has to be SOME logic in video games, and it makes more sense that you kill a robot with a heavy bubble than something else. Otherwise, you could make so many cracks about how it just burns the enemies eyes, but doesn't kill them, and Bubble Man being laughed at by everyone because the worst he can do is make someone's eyes water.
It also seems more awesome to crush someone with a friggin' bubble. That's some serious Chuck Norris [parasitic bomb] right there o3o
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it's "lead the way" lead, not "a good fry cook always keeps a brick of lead in his hat" lead. it makes perfect sense, despite it's improper grammar.
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But don't most of the projectile weapons "lead" you in that they travel in front of you?
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Bubble lead is different in that it leads the way and shows you the holographic floor in the Wily Stages.
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But Search Snake could do that too. Why don't we call it Lead Snake?
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Because Search Snake searches for the fake stuff.
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But Search Snake could do that too. Why don't we call it Lead Snake?
My point, exactly.
The only really strong evidence against me is that the Kanji reads "ree-doh" or "ri-doh".
But I'm still pronouncing it the other way.
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Bubble Fred.
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The only really strong evidence against me is that the Kanji reads "ree-doh" or "ri-doh".
Typo!
And why don't we call it Lead Storm? Maybe Wind Man should change his name to Lead Man. Or Air Gravity Man.
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Bubble Fred.
BUBBLE BARNEY, MY BUBBLE PEBBLES!
Typo!
Don't I wish.
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The only really strong evidence against me is that the Kanji reads "ree-doh" or "ri-doh".
What more evidence do you want? I'd say that's proof.
But Search Snake could do that too. Why don't we call it Lead Snake?
Because "Lead Snake" doesn't alliterate and sounds less catchy?
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Who cares if it's gramatically incorrect? Or why Search Snakes don't match it? The reason why it's lead"ing" has been given. It's a funky Japanese weapon name. Why does Flash man have Time Stopper and Bright man have Flash Stopper? Who cares? They just do.
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Why doesn't Time Man have the Bright Stopper?
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I'm just gonna call it what I want.
Bubble Lead, it's made of lead.
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I've been calling it Bubble Lead (as in leeeeeeeeed) for...ever. I don't really know why it is called that. I think I may have wondered at some point in time.
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This reminds me of the best bash.org quote ever.
<guy1> is it pronounced live or live?
<guy2> live
<guy1> ok thanks
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No matter the pronouniation, I will always call it Bubble Lead (Pb).
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This reminds me of the best bash.org quote ever.
<guy1> is it pronounced live or live?
<guy2> live
<guy1> ok thanks
I'm not even going to try to guess what "Live A Live" is.
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I'm not even going to try to guess what "Live A Live" is.
Live A Live is an awesome (but short) game.
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Too bad, because I'll never mention it out loud for fear of saying it wrong.
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Say it backwards.
Evil A Evil.
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I always thought it was just lead in the bubbles, which is why they didn't float away and why they actually hurt stuff. There has to be SOME logic in video games, and it makes more sense that you kill a robot with a heavy bubble than something else. Otherwise, you could make so many cracks about how it just burns the enemies eyes, but doesn't kill them, and Bubble Man being laughed at by everyone because the worst he can do is make someone's eyes water.
That said, I guess Aqua Man and Neptune got laughed at then. Water Balloons and Salt Water don't actually seem dangerous. Of course, I still like those weapons.
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Water Balloons and Salt Water are dangerous.
Rust. :P
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So does that mean that Water-element Robot Masters are rust-resistant? If not, then Toad Man's committing suicide... 8D
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It's a must.
Toad Man isn't that dumb... XD
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Toad Man probably wants to commit suicide. He's a toad robot, god damn, his life must be horrible.
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Bubble Lead, it's made of lead.
Except it canonically isn't made out of lead! Sourcebooks FTW!
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The bubble is made of lead, it gives enemies lead poisoning.
:D
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バブル リード (baburu ri-do) = Bubble Lead (Leed)
Lead = Guidance = "leads" itself along the ground~ >w<
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Since I'm both a Leader and the element of Lead (Pb), it doesn't matter what I call it.
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I still think it's the element lead. Unless Mega Man is greater than Chuck Norris, I highly doubt he can crush a met with a bubble, let alone a robot master.
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Grah. This used to confuse the hell outta me. I originally pronounced it "LEED", but then I changed to "LED".
"LEED" would probably make more sense, given that it "leads" itself along the floor. However, "LED" also makes a little bit of sense, given that the bubbles do indeed hit the floor and roll along from there. Didn't some official sources state Wily created super-heavy bubbles by chemically combining H2O and Pb, or am I mistaken?
I dunno. I don't have much of a preference either way. @_@
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Didn't some official sources state Wily created super-heavy bubbles by chemically combining H2O and Pb, or am I mistaken?
SCIENCE
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I still think it's the element lead. Unless Mega Man is greater than Chuck Norris, I highly doubt he can crush a met with a bubble, let alone a robot master.
if Mega Man can kill robots with wind, he can most certainly use a bubble.
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Mega Man can kill robots by spinning around.
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http://blue-bomber.jvmwriter.org/index.php?title=Bubble_Lead
http://web.archive.org/web/20050308005826/rockmanvortex.com/rrc/charg/dwn2-3/dwn11.html
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http://web.archive.org/web/20050308005826/rockmanvortex.com/rrc/charg/dwn2-3/dwn11.html
Purpose: Underwater Anti-Rockman Combat
Awesome!
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Except it canonically isn't made out of lead! Sourcebooks FTW!
Sourcebooks are full of lies!
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Sourcebooks are full of lies!
If sourcebooks are full of lies, you are a sourcebook.
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That's me!
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That's me!
Then I await from you a explaination, which cannot be denied by any means. Show it me!
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There will be improvised information, not necessarily the truth. =w=
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if Mega Man can kill robots with wind, he can most certainly use a bubble.
Except those are TORNADOES! Unless the robots are TIV's, there's not much that can stand up to a tornado, especially a puny little robot that doesn't weigh more than a ton (and I doubt any of the robots Mega Man fights weigh as such). Even then a ton isn't a sure-fire way to avoid a tornado (9 tons is a better number), so that means every robot Mega Man goes up against is screwed if he has a tornado weapon.
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But those funnel clouds are so small... I don't think they can be real tornadoes. I bet they are just TopMan's tops with swirls painted on them. Hey, this could go in my sourcebook!
ABOUT AIRMAN
Did you know that he is really TopMan in disguise? It's true! TopMan thought that he could be taken more seriously if he pretended that his tops were whirlwinds, but eventually he learned to be happy with himself the way he was, after watching some Disney show.
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You know what?
It's a damned bubble that shows you the way, and happens to be made of lead so it just don't float away.
So there. You can call it both ways now. To be honest I thought it was pronounced Bubbles Led however.
-shrug-
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-shrug-
RPM. Serious Discussions.
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バブル リード (baburu ri-do) = Bubble Lead (Leed)
Lead = Guidance = "leads" itself along the ground~ >w<
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He fired his Bubble Lead straight at Mega Man. A huge bubble of molten lead rolled at him.
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I'm amazed that this is still an issue...RM2 itself already gave a conclusive answer on this, back in 1988 >.>
ofcourse, given if you can't read katakana and download/purchase RM2, you can still convince yourself those bubbles are made of led, even when there is NO VISUAL inclination for it to be so >.>
If the bubbles would be made of lead...don't you think they would have been GREY instead of transparant >.>
-Elpis
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I think the "name" means that it leads itself across the ground.
The element is explained from source books.
But names in the games are supposed to explain their function in a game situation.
It's not always meant to explain more complicated stuff than that.
That's what the source books are for.
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To lead is to achieve results.
Hence Bubble Lead.
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ofcourse, given if you can't read katakana and download/purchase RM2, you can still convince yourself those bubbles are made of led, even when there is NO VISUAL inclination for it to be so >.>
LEAD IS HEAVY
THAT MUST BE WHY THE BUBBLE DOES NOT FLOAT
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WHY CAN'T IT BE BOTH!?!?!?!
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LEAD IS HEAVY
THAT MUST BE WHY THE BUBBLE DOES NOT FLOAT
Capslock must be tied to idiocy...look at the freaking bubbles, if they were made of lead, would they still be transparant, the answer is NO, so go stuff your fail logic where the sun doesn't shine.
Also, while the bubbles drop fast, for bubbles that is, they don't drop nearly fast enough to be made of lead, barring the fact that it is a chemical impossibility.
WHY CAN'T IT BE BOTH!?!?!?!
BECAUSE CAPCOM SAYS SO!!!111111!!!! >.>
Bubble Lead (leed = good, led = stupidity)
-Elpis
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Bubbles, made of air, FLOAT UP. They don't bounce, either!
I'm not saying "leed". It's "led".
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Fine, do as you please, you want to be ignorant and wrong, it's your call.
Sure, Capcom is wrong, it's called bubble led. [/sarcasm]
Bye bye topic.
-Elpis
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not all bubbles rise in the air. some fall straight down.
and i think this is well overdue: lol game logic. 8D
[spoiler]when i use that face, you know something's wrong. i don't EVER use smileys.[/spoiler]
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Bubbles underwater don't fall.
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And these bubbles fall regardless of atmospheric condition!
Water, Air, whatever, they drop!
Sounds like a Metal/Metalloid to me!
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Which is why I want it to be both, so people stop arguing!
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and i think this is well overdue: lol game logic. 8D
[spoiler]when i use that face, you know something's wrong. i don't EVER use smileys.[/spoiler]
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Okay. I'm willing to pronounce it as Bubble "Leed" (after all, that is the Kanji pronunciation), IF we can say that these bubbles are made of Pb/Lead or some Metal/Metalloid/fusion that is extremely Lead-like.
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don't make me quote it again.
but for the sake of playing along, Ceramicaltitan?
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Ceratanium?
Interesting thought, there.
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Capslock must be tied to idiocy...look at the freaking bubbles, if they were made of lead, would they still be transparant, the answer is NO
It must be a VERY THIN ball of lead.
Sure, Capcom is wrong, it's called bubble led.
This is true.
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The bubble is made from a unique liquid with phenomenal surface tension, Plumbum is not a liquid, nor is it unique, nor does it have phenomenal surface tension. Also, BubbleMan is an environmentalist, he isn't going to go pollute the ocean with lead bubbles.
Finally, I'm just going to play devil's advocate and say it's Bubble Read.
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Finally, I'm just going to play devil's advocate and say it's Bubble Read.
Finally, someone who understands what I was talking about.
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I chose Lead as in the element, because I figured that is was like lead bullets or something. The other option makes no sense in this context.
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Wouldn't that make it Vubbre Read?
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BABURU READO!! >w<
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Wouldn't that make it Vubbre Read?
Vavver Riedoh
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This could go on forever...
Bubbel Ledande (Swedish)
Bolla di piombo (Italian)
Пузырь Свинец (Russian)
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I like the Russian one, it's like a whole other language.
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Finally, I'm just going to play devil's advocate and say it's Bubble Read.
that doesn't help. do you mean read present tense or read past tense?
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I like the Vietnamese one.
"Chì bong bóng"
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The bubble is made from a unique liquid with phenomenal surface tension, Plumbum is not a liquid, nor is it unique, nor does it have phenomenal surface tension.
Because it's not Plumbum! It's Plum Bum. Completely different.
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[objection!] That's the best you could come up with?
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Zan used my smiley! *cries* I'm so proud~
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