The "Paradise Lost" technique?

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Reply #25 on: August 24, 2009, 10:17:03 PM
He just wants to nuzzle you 8D



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Reply #26 on: August 24, 2009, 10:20:27 PM
Isn't that what Akuma does as well?
no, he drags the opponent through hell and assaults them with every sin they've ever committed.



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Reply #27 on: August 24, 2009, 10:22:48 PM
Sooooo...it's not just a big hug then!  My mistake!  XD



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Reply #28 on: August 24, 2009, 10:24:42 PM
eh, same thing.



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Reply #29 on: August 24, 2009, 10:24:42 PM

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Reply #30 on: August 25, 2009, 06:50:37 AM
*on the twelfth try, successfully activates Shun Goku Satsu*

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Reply #31 on: August 25, 2009, 08:20:03 AM
Too much overthinking. TOO MUCH.



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Reply #32 on: August 25, 2009, 10:04:34 PM
It hurts. But Sigma Blade works wonders on him there!

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Reply #33 on: August 29, 2009, 11:19:58 PM
Those looking to the Japanese end might be disappointed, since far more often than not, the official guides continue the archaic trend of leaving the last boss for you to conquer on your own. You're usually pretty lucky if you get a brief description or a few attack names. Neither Japanese X8 guide I own has info about the Paradise Lost move.

However, the English BradyGames guide says this about it:
"His desperation move, Paradise Lost, is Lumine's most lethal move, yet it doesn't actually do any damage. Instead, it rips open a hole in the dimensional walls and begins a timer; you have thirty seconds to finish Lumine off, or else the dimensional rift closes... and it's goodnight."

I can't speak whether it is an 100% accurate interpretation of the move, although it is fact that Capcom supplied some official materials for the Brady Guides (but where is the line drawn?), and for the most part, the names of the boss' moves and such line up with the Japanese guides. But Greg Sepelak does incorporate his own fanon into the mix with his guides, so whether that was the official move explanation or just an educated guess, might not be clear until Rockman X Compendium vol 2 comes around. Although, it's also quite possible that info and strategies for the final boss battle were included in some Japanese gaming mag from 2004...



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Reply #34 on: August 29, 2009, 11:58:25 PM
However, the English BradyGames guide says this about it:
"His desperation move, Paradise Lost, is Lumine's most lethal move, yet it doesn't actually do any damage. Instead, it rips open a hole in the dimensional walls and begins a timer; you have thirty seconds to finish Lumine off, or else the dimensional rift closes... and it's goodnight."

I can't speak whether it is an 100% accurate interpretation of the move, although it is fact that Capcom supplied some official materials for the Brady Guides (but where is the line drawn?), and for the most part, the names of the boss' moves and such line up with the Japanese guides. But Greg Sepelak does incorporate his own fanon into the mix with his guides, so whether that was the official move explanation or just an educated guess, might not be clear until Rockman X Compendium vol 2 comes around.
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Reply #35 on: August 30, 2009, 07:38:21 AM
I actually like the rip thing there.

...When Larry the reploid accountant goes maverick of his own accord, he's certainly formidable during tax season, but he isn't going to provide X the challenge needed to make him grow as a warrior and reach his potential.


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Reply #36 on: September 01, 2009, 08:37:20 PM
I like to wonder why Lumine didn't just not [acid burst] off X, Zero, & Axl, let them go home, & went about his business.



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Reply #37 on: September 01, 2009, 10:26:17 PM
Because he's evil, and couldn't stop himself from gloating for all the cherries in california.



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Reply #38 on: September 02, 2009, 02:25:19 AM
Villain stupids



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Reply #39 on: September 02, 2009, 02:27:05 AM
Thats why the bad guys always lose.
In Megaman anyways...

...When Larry the reploid accountant goes maverick of his own accord, he's certainly formidable during tax season, but he isn't going to provide X the challenge needed to make him grow as a warrior and reach his potential.


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Reply #40 on: September 02, 2009, 03:45:49 AM
Adrian from Watchmen didn't have villain stupids.



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Reply #41 on: September 02, 2009, 04:32:34 AM
Adrian from Watchmen didn't have villain stupids.

Adrian wasn't a deranged mad-man who lost all common sense either. Seriously, Lumine supposedly went Maverick on his own, the first/second Reploid to ever do so. Hell, the guy was the man behind the man and manipulated Sigma, a first for the series since Sigma loosely manipulated others to do his bidding somehow.



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Reply #42 on: September 02, 2009, 08:09:09 PM
I don't think Lumine was anywhere near the second to go maverick on his own, there must be plenty that did so without being influenced by the virus. Before it was around, for instance.



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Reply #43 on: September 02, 2009, 08:39:11 PM
befre the virus it was mostly just glitches and program errors. the rest werent really maverick, but maybe petty criminals who chose to do bad things cuz they could. they probably didnt have any sort of "hate" for humans. just law enforcement maybe.

...When Larry the reploid accountant goes maverick of his own accord, he's certainly formidable during tax season, but he isn't going to provide X the challenge needed to make him grow as a warrior and reach his potential.


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Reply #44 on: September 02, 2009, 08:53:20 PM
befre the virus it was mostly just glitches and program errors.
That's what the hunters said, mmhm mhm.



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Reply #45 on: September 03, 2009, 02:23:42 AM
God forbid they want freedoms & rights. Look at what happened to poor Repliforce.



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Reply #46 on: September 03, 2009, 07:55:15 AM
That's what the hunters said, mmhm mhm.

The [parasitic bomb] didn't hit the fan until Zero showed up since he was the original carrier of the virus, so odds are there weren't that many "outbursts". As for the repliforce, weren't they the ones that were attacking Sky Central or City or whatever?



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Reply #47 on: September 03, 2009, 08:28:46 AM
You apparently have not played X4.
No, they werent. They actually showed up to help, or happened to be on the scene, whatever, since Colonel went to save Iris. it was Sigma who set it up to look like they were. to this end he also used Dragoon to fool the hunters.

Remember the whole repliforce war was an embarrassment that caused the previous hunter general to retire out of shame. The repliforce never did nything wrong, until the Hunters came out of nowhere and accused them of bringing Sky Lagoon crashing down. Repliforce, being proud to the point of fault, decided to defend themselves and lash back rather than clear up the matter. and The hunters, having X and Zero, decimated Repliforce, leaving a few scattered units and troops and General, the sole survivors, after which He was forced to sacrifice himself to stop Final weapon.

It was all a misunderstanding by the Hunters.

although, the Repliforce air and Sea units seemingly remained, independently. (as seen by X5 and Z1)

...When Larry the reploid accountant goes maverick of his own accord, he's certainly formidable during tax season, but he isn't going to provide X the challenge needed to make him grow as a warrior and reach his potential.


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Reply #48 on: September 03, 2009, 09:24:58 AM
I played X4, I just couldn't remember what the hell happened :\ Still, that actually seems more like sloppy writing. "We're too proud to bother saying that out solider was saving his sister" just doesn't seem right. You'd think it'd be better to have mavericks disguised as Repliforce members bring down Sky Lagoon so that the evidence is more outweighing, and then Repliforce having to defend themselves instead.

Then again, if one thinks about it, there are quite a few plot-holes already in the entire continuity of things pre-Legends :\



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Reply #49 on: September 03, 2009, 09:31:59 AM
well, we dont know. For all we know, there could be a few actual repliforce mavericks. remember that fat reploid that shoots you or throws grenades at you? it seems to be a repliforce model. it was only in X4, and I believe the airport in X5. (also a repliforce place)

for the most part though, the Hunters and Repliforce acted pretty stupid, Zero in particular was a real case in that game.

but then again, otherwise, we'd have no game.

...When Larry the reploid accountant goes maverick of his own accord, he's certainly formidable during tax season, but he isn't going to provide X the challenge needed to make him grow as a warrior and reach his potential.