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Title: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Turian on April 21, 2011, 05:16:13 PM
(http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/1977/mml3.jpg)

Jgonzo over at  Capcom-unity (http://www.capcom-unity.com/jgonzo/blog/2011/04/21/announcing_mega_man_legends_3:_prototype_version) has made a blog post officially announcing the MML3PV. Included are screenshot's, a video and the full press release! Get hype!

The Prototype Version is said to be downloadable at the cost of 200yen on the eShop (about $2 USD) once it launches sometime in May. The Japanese name for this Prototype is "Rockman DASH 3: The Prologue Game".

Source:  Capcom-Unity (http://www.capcom-unity.com/jgonzo/blog/2011/04/21/announcing_mega_man_legends_3:_prototype_version)
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Acid on April 21, 2011, 05:31:41 PM
I got my hype already!





Posted on: April 21, 2011, 17:17:07
Also: Turian, I added a picture to your post. Hope you don't mind.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Turian on April 21, 2011, 05:34:29 PM
It's all good! I tried to do it myself, but the picture kept breaking for some reason! So thanks for getting my back!
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: X-3 on April 21, 2011, 05:37:13 PM
I didn't expect a second playable character. Interesting.

Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Turian on April 21, 2011, 05:38:35 PM
Anybody got any info on when the eshop is coming? Please let it be soon!
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: VixyNyan on April 21, 2011, 05:40:54 PM
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Prototype Version downloadable at eShop.

Well, I know what I'll be doing nya~ <3

Anybody got any info on when the eshop is coming? Please let it be soon!

Anytime in May.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: ST Jestah on April 21, 2011, 05:49:10 PM
...Great. Now I HAVE to save up for a 3DS, thanks a lot Acid and Turian!...and Capcom.

In all seriousness. Game looks exquisite and seems to move very fluidly. Far more so then the first 2 Legends game from what I saw. This Barret character  looks interesting, though I was kinda hoping to see how the game would have been played as Aero.

Oh well, artificial digger with homing dive attack is better then nothing, I guess.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Acid on April 21, 2011, 05:55:21 PM
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Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: VixyNyan on April 21, 2011, 06:00:28 PM
Download price announced. Updated the post. ^^
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Turian on April 21, 2011, 06:02:20 PM
Judging by that picture, I would guess that type B armor is in the lead?
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Acid on April 21, 2011, 06:07:25 PM
Looks that way. Though I would have been fine with the other versions as well.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Solar on April 21, 2011, 06:14:12 PM
I'm suddenly really glad I got a 3DS yesterday instead of waiting.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Protoman Blues on April 21, 2011, 06:42:45 PM
I still wish Design B had Design A's color scheme, but still this put a smile on my face!
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Zan on April 21, 2011, 07:13:44 PM
Can't say I like them suddenly changing the spelling of Caskett.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Align on April 21, 2011, 07:18:15 PM
And naturally the guy is red... I guess that colour contrast never gets old.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Protoman Blues on April 21, 2011, 07:21:18 PM
I think he's dressed more in white than red.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Turian on April 21, 2011, 07:21:44 PM
Why is Rock's last name different from Roll and Barrel's? Where did the name Volnutt come from anyways?
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Align on April 21, 2011, 07:23:48 PM
I think he's dressed more in white than red.
But his hair is red.
Well, fair enough, it's not red getup w/ blonde hair.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Protoman Blues on April 21, 2011, 07:26:08 PM
Haha, yeah. That would be pushing it a bit! XD
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: KoiDrake on April 21, 2011, 07:41:14 PM
Great! Another awesome game I can't play :<
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Acid on April 21, 2011, 07:51:28 PM
Great! Another awesome game I can't play :<

:<
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: prower42 on April 21, 2011, 08:12:53 PM
:<

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Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Phi on April 21, 2011, 08:24:24 PM
I got my hype already!




I hope that music is from the actual game and not simply promotional. That [parasitic bomb] is sexy.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Blackhook on April 21, 2011, 09:02:37 PM
Great! Another awesome game I can't play :<
Welcome my friend to the club..here's your namecard.
BTW am I the only one who noticed Servbot katamari?
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: KoiDrake on April 21, 2011, 09:26:05 PM
*puts namecard on his forehead*

That's some nice music indeed, let us know if anyone is thinking of making a livesteam of this, I'd like to see this game in action.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Phi on April 21, 2011, 10:01:36 PM
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Acid on April 21, 2011, 10:07:24 PM
It looks soooooo good.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Phi on April 21, 2011, 11:08:03 PM
Turns out this guy had a 3-part video:


Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: VixyNyan on April 22, 2011, 12:25:02 AM
That's some nice music indeed, let us know if anyone is thinking of making a livesteam of this, I'd like to see this game in action.

Oh I will definitely do that~ nwn

For now, you can enjoy those youtube clips, and some more here.

Mission 1


Mission 2


Mission 3
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Karasai♪ on April 22, 2011, 12:27:55 AM
Im guessing that Bonne Mecha is Doner Welss (the winning design), right?

This looks WAY better than I expected it to look like!
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Frozen Potato on April 22, 2011, 02:05:59 AM
Is it just me....or im really seeing Protoman in that guy?

Honestly,I dont remember seeing that character before.

Other than that,looks great~

Edit:Crap,guess i missed the update about new stuff  8D
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Flame on April 22, 2011, 04:36:24 AM
Is it just me....or im really seeing Protoman in that guy?

Shades. Red boots. Red/white bike. Also uses arm cannon.

Glad im not the only one who sees it.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Phi on April 22, 2011, 05:35:15 AM
Official Website launched (http://www.capcom.co.jp/rockman/dash3/main.html)
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Hypershell on April 22, 2011, 04:21:05 PM
I picked a hell of a day to not check the internet.  On the scale of wee to not-so-wee, this news as FRIKKIN HUGE!!!

Yep, I'm buying (and favoriting) that prototype game the split-second it is available, for sure!

Is it just me....or im really seeing Protoman in that guy?
Definitely not.  He's doesn't strike me as being quite as cool/distant as ProtoMan, though.

I was actually thinking, give him a scarf, and we have our Legends version of PB. 8D

Why is Rock's last name different from Roll and Barrel's? Where did the name Volnutt come from anyways?
I would guess they were straightforward to Trigger about him being adopted (though likely less so as to how Barrel found him), seeings how the various revelations to him in L1/L2 don't seem to shake his family relations.

Nobody really knows where the name "Volnutt" came from.  Some speculate it may have something to do with Banner (Roll's dad), considering that Roll shares her last name with Barrel, who is Matilda's father.

I still wish Design B had Design A's color scheme, but still this put a smile on my face!
Same.  I voted for A for the sake of color, but B struck me as the best in terms of line art.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Kieran on April 22, 2011, 04:37:33 PM
Roll and Trigger never really acted like siblings in Legends anyway, which is probably for the best considering the fact that they're quasi-love interests for eachother.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Hypershell on April 22, 2011, 04:46:10 PM
It'd be more appropriate to call them cousins than siblings, if you think about it (though the specifics of the family relationships didn't come to light until L2).  Trigger was adopted by Barrel, not Roll's parents.  They'd have disappeared when Trigger and Roll were around 4-5 years old.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Kieran on April 22, 2011, 04:54:02 PM
That would make Trigger closer to Roll's maternal uncle than a cousin.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Hypershell on April 22, 2011, 04:54:48 PM
Except that he calls Barrel "Gramps".
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Kieran on April 22, 2011, 04:55:46 PM
I'm not debating that fact, I'm just saying.  If he's Barrel's adoptive son, he would be Matilda's brother and thus Roll's uncle.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Hypershell on April 22, 2011, 05:18:56 PM
That train of thought is obvious, but just because you adopt somebody as their "guardian" doesn't mean that you assume the father/son label.  The relationship of an adopted family member is whatever the family decides it is.  We have Trigger's point of view regarding Barrel (grandfather), and no other family member conflicts with that.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Night on April 22, 2011, 06:23:57 PM
>oo<

Dat site music!
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Kieran on April 22, 2011, 06:48:24 PM
I hope that's what they use in-game.  I always liked the MML version better than the one they used in L2.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: ST Jestah on April 22, 2011, 07:22:17 PM
I do hope Trigger/Volnutt will move around as fast as our new goggled friend here. Also be able to run over random pedestrians by ramming into them at full dashing speed. And kicking, lots of kicking.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Phi on April 22, 2011, 07:33:04 PM
I do hope Trigger/Volnutt will move around as fast as our new goggled friend here. Also be able to run over random pedestrians by ramming into them at full dashing speed. And kicking, lots of kicking.


That will probably be remedied with his roller skates.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Protoman Blues on April 22, 2011, 08:10:26 PM
>oo<

Dat site music!


Very nice indeed!
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Solar on April 22, 2011, 08:15:10 PM
I don't want to ruin the happiness, but it doesn't look like anyone has made a mention of this important piece of "news"...

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This is where the Mega Man Legends Developer Room comes in. Planned as a place where users could get in on the development process, we knew there was some way we could utilize this to help our project succeed. We ended up reaching an unprecedented agreement. As it happens, it was decided that the prototype version of the game we had submitted within the company would be sold as a downloadable—“Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype Version”. Furthermore, the heat and excitement surrounding this downloadable title would determine whether or not the full game could be greenlit. If hype is strong, the full title will be a go. If not, it’s a no-go. I don’t even want to think about that outcome!
http://www.capcom-unity.com/devroom/blog/2011/04/21/big_announcement
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Hypershell on April 22, 2011, 08:41:05 PM
The easy solution: BUY IT!
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Protoman Blues on April 22, 2011, 08:43:38 PM
Hahahaha, wow. That's quite the dick move there.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Solar on April 22, 2011, 08:46:11 PM
The easy solution: BUY IT!

I know I will (as soon as I get points), I know you DEFINITELY will, but the masses will? :(
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Blackhook on April 22, 2011, 08:49:33 PM
...Are they..are they blackmailing us?
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Protoman Blues on April 22, 2011, 08:57:17 PM
...Are they..are they blackmailing us?

Yes and no. The hardcore of Legends fans were buying this regardless, so it doesn't really affect them. The real issue lies with those Legends fans that don't have a 3DS yet and cannot buy one by the time this demo comes out. I already know like 3 people who were waiting for this game to come out before buying their 3DS, and now they're essentially being told that if they don't buy one now and buy this demo, there's a chance we don't see the game.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Police Girl on April 22, 2011, 09:00:00 PM
Egh... Thanks Capcom, now I have to get a 3DS when there are barely any games for it!
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Zan on April 22, 2011, 09:32:47 PM
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Egh... Thanks Capcom, now I have to get a 3DS when there are barely any games for it!

Which just means you don't have to burn all your money in one go when games do start coming out.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Blackhook on April 22, 2011, 09:37:50 PM
..I can't even get a 3DS
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: ST Jestah on April 22, 2011, 10:02:16 PM
That just some major ass pulling there.  I'm one of the few don't have any money with me at the moment to go and buy the 3DS and are waiting until later to do so.

[tornado fang] you Capcom...course the english version might come out to in late summer or even later than that. I, as well as the rest of the Legends fanbase who still hasn't gotten their mitts on a 3DS, will hopefully have enough money for the system, the game, plus SSFIV by then.

Course the game could come out between late and mid summer as well. Hopefully the 8,000 + Jap fans that have joined the devroom, plus any curious consumers (with good tastes hopefully) will be enough to green light this thing. Of course the US side should really pull in a few more fans, least we risk having the game only come out in Japanese side.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Klavier Gavin on April 22, 2011, 10:19:55 PM
Hahahaha, wow. That's quite the dick move there.

(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/5539/1zycubr.png)
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Police Girl on April 22, 2011, 10:21:47 PM
Which just means you don't have to burn all your money in one go when games do start coming out.

Well, it actually means I have to burn all of my money just to get the damn thing.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Acid on April 22, 2011, 10:49:47 PM
Will America and Europe even get the demo?
Or is it Japan only?
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Jericho on April 22, 2011, 10:51:19 PM
Hahahaha, wow. That's quite the dick move there.

Jesus, it's like the spiritual successor of the Wii "tests" except with a franchise I care a fuckload more for. What the hell Capcom?
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Mirby on April 22, 2011, 11:15:10 PM
Well it's a good thing I got laundry money ready... now I'm really gonna need it.

also, this is friggin' epic! ^.^
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: VixyNyan on April 22, 2011, 11:19:25 PM
Will America and Europe even get the demo?
Or is it Japan only?

It's worldwide I think. It's confirmed and announced for Japanese and America systems at least. >U<
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Acid on April 22, 2011, 11:24:27 PM
It's worldwide I think. It's confirmed and announced for Japanese and America systems at least. >U<

Then I will hand them my money.

As soon as I have my 3DS.

Which will be just when the demo releases. Coincidence? I think not.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Hypershell on April 22, 2011, 11:47:36 PM
My only concern, really, is that Capcom's marketing big-wigs will stop to consider how the prototype's sales compare to the e-Shop's in general, rather than holding some unrealistic absolute mark on an unproven outlet.  We don't need a repeat of the PSP games.

It ought to help that the asking price is a mere 2 bucks, though.  That has to kick the crap out of any competition they'll face value-wise; on DSiWare it gets you a frikkin round of Tic-Tac-Toe.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: The Great Gonzo on April 23, 2011, 12:07:24 AM
I heard that 3DS sales aren't so good right now.

So, the game could sell well, and still be doomed by the fact that it's on 3DS.

Capcom, I hope you've got the defensive turrets set up.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: STM on April 23, 2011, 12:11:02 AM
Saw it coming from a mile away.

Was going to pick it up anyway just to dick around with it (debug tools? Yes please.) but this is rather typical of current day Capcom. They LOVE paid DLC for every little thing.

No wonder Inafune got the hell out of there.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Acid on April 23, 2011, 12:27:42 AM
Regarding that 3DS eShop:

How can I buy things anyway? Does it work with points? A la Wii? Or do I need to enter a credit card number somewhere? I hope it's points.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: VixyNyan on April 23, 2011, 12:35:47 AM
I don't know if they announced "currency" cards yet, since the eShop is using regular currency (Yen, Dollar, Euro) instead of points. Credit Cards will definitely work tho. The whole buying and adding currency to your account will be similar to the Wii/DSi at the least. ^^;
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Gaia on April 23, 2011, 12:39:15 AM
Now I REALLY wish the main game will go retail after the demo. Now it's a good thing to be a little biased about Sony's money-based system now: It has additional points cards found in stores. When will the 3DS start releasing those before L3 comes out?  B(
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: VixyNyan on April 23, 2011, 12:40:24 AM
The "Prototype" is downloadable from the eShop.
Sources from Capcom said that the full game will be a retail game (cartridge).
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Flame on April 23, 2011, 12:47:39 AM
We don't need a repeat of the PSP games.

Glad im not the only one seeing the similarity.

Releasing a demo on a system that is brand new, when not everyone will have it yet. And making THAT the green light indicator.

Capcom really has lost their marbles.
No wonder Inafune got the hell out of there.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Solar on April 23, 2011, 01:27:52 AM
It ought to help that the asking price is a mere 2 bucks, though.  That has to kick the crap out of any competition they'll face value-wise; on DSiWare it gets you a frikkin round of Tic-Tac-Toe.

Not to mention it has pretty much nothing to compete with in the 3DSware section or however they'll call it.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Align on April 23, 2011, 01:56:14 AM
DOOMED.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on April 23, 2011, 02:28:40 AM
Hmmmm. Everyone I know who doesn't know about/like/want Legends 3 I will be forcing, reimbursing if need be, to get that demo.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'LL BE ENOUGH BUT I BETTER [tornado fang]ing TRY!! WHY CAPCOM WHY ARE YOU SUCH A BUNCH OF DICKS NOW?!
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Gaia on April 23, 2011, 02:38:54 AM
Then again, it's basically the Rockman equivilant of Duke Nukem Forever, soo.. I can now see why Inufaune went AWOL in the first place, Cappy's gone mad!
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: The Great Gonzo on April 23, 2011, 02:46:06 AM
Or maybe they haven't gone mad, in a sense--they just found a way to cancel Mr. Inafune's other big project while making it look like they still want to give it a chance. And if it doesn't sell well enough, they can rub it in.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: VixyNyan on April 23, 2011, 03:06:29 AM
I want to find time to write a big post, explaining why Mega Man Legends is a great series, so it can motivate people (and Capcom) to support the release of this game. x.x
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Night on April 23, 2011, 03:39:57 AM
 *o* I'll be looking forward to that!
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Flame on April 23, 2011, 04:08:46 AM
Or maybe they haven't gone mad, in a sense--they just found a way to cancel Mr. Inafune's other big project while making it look like they still want to give it a chance. And if it doesn't sell well enough, they can rub it in.
Except if it doesnt sell well, but still gets enough support to be greenlit and released, the joke will be on them, considering didnt Inafune plan this to be the end of the Legends series..?
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Hypershell on April 23, 2011, 04:13:24 AM
...where in the blue hell did you hear that?

Besides, if X5 didn't make it clear enough, nobody gives a damn when Inafune wants to end a series (and with good reason, given that he defines "finality" as "kill the popular supporting character").
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: The Great Gonzo on April 23, 2011, 04:19:38 AM
Except if it doesnt sell well, but still gets enough support to be greenlit and released, the joke will be on them,

I thought Capcom made it perfectly clear: Not enough sales, no game.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Hypershell on April 23, 2011, 04:34:07 AM
I think he meant if for some reason the prototype sells well and the final game doesn't.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: The Great Gonzo on April 23, 2011, 04:50:01 AM
oh. derp.

But the final game not selling well would be disastrous in the long (or even short) run.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Flame on April 23, 2011, 04:55:04 AM
Well I could have sworn I heard that somewhere... From Inafune or something. I recall something being said about it being a 'conclusion"
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Hypershell on April 23, 2011, 05:02:11 AM
Assuming he did say that, it could easily have meant simply tying up the loose ends that L2 left.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Flame on April 23, 2011, 06:56:10 AM
That might have been it.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: kosmos on April 23, 2011, 10:58:29 AM
Capcom it's getting more lame every year with the pay downloads. As a Mega Man fan it's not a big deal to pay $2 or $5 because doing it not only I will enjoy some time the prototype but also I will help my favourite game series but it's a stupid thing to think "normal" people will pay for it.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Flame on April 25, 2011, 04:30:40 AM
I dont even have a 3DS, and I was planning on getting one eventually, maybe a year or two down the road. And I was not planning on rushing out to buy one anytime soon just for the demo.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on April 25, 2011, 10:49:06 PM
Capcom it's getting more lame every year with the pay downloads. As a Mega Man fan it's not a big deal to pay $2 or $5 because doing it not only I will enjoy some time the prototype but also I will help my favourite game series but it's a stupid thing to think "normal" people will pay for it.

This is especially true if they label it a PROTOYPE or a DEMO. Normal people will go; "pay for a demo?! screw you!!"

This whole thing is a terrible idea in itself.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Flame on April 25, 2011, 11:16:28 PM
Well like we've already established. Capcom is HOPING it will fail so they can rid themselves of Inafune's projects. There's no other sane explanation, or their top staff is totally just plain stupid.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Phi on April 25, 2011, 11:46:13 PM
This is especially true if they label it a PROTOYPE or a DEMO. Normal people will go; "pay for a demo?! screw you!!"

This whole thing is a terrible idea in itself.

I think it's more of a "if people pay for this, they must truly care for the future of this series" approach, thus greenliting. Instead of downloading it just because it's free and taking advantage. I have a habit of downloading most free demos on PSN just because it's available. Though i do still agree that Capcom's being half assed about this.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: The Great Gonzo on April 26, 2011, 01:49:31 AM
I think it's more of a "if people pay for this, they must truly care for the future of this series" approach, thus greenliting.

On a system that hasn't been selling that well customer-wise? There had better be a good, non-doucebaggy reason for why Capcom can't just wait until the library expands by 200%.

By the way, MML3 (or at least the demo) might be at E3: http://protodudesrockmancorner.blogspot.com/2011/04/unconfirmed-mega-man-legends-3-at-e3.html

I don't think this will guarantee more sales, and the contradiction between "[tornado fang] MML3, let's deliberately doom it" and "let's bring it to E3 where people can look at it" is odd, but if this ends up saving MML3 (for the time being...), all the better.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Hypershell on April 26, 2011, 03:22:36 AM
The "deliberately doom it" scenario sounds to me like an internet-fueled overreaction, but that's just my opinion.  I read it, and I remember the Metroid Other M bitchery about how Team Ninja was killing Samus through sexist stereotypes.

What happened the last time a Legends-series demo came out, anyone?  Yeah, that's right, it contained original content that remained JAPAN-EXCLUSIVE.  I consider us fortunate as hell that the opportunity to pick it up even exists, much less that it'll be available over Wifi as opposed to some E3-exclusive kiosk that maybe 0.001% of the potential audience will have access to.

And I've said this before in other threads, and I'll say it again:  I'm sad to see MMU cancelled, but not THAT sad.  The fact that the previous two Classic-series games harken to 2 as the series holy grail dampens the impact of a rebranded console-based Power Up 2, and I'm more than a little sick of Classic-series games not allowing you to slide.

I think it's more of a "if people pay for this, they must truly care for the future of this series" approach, thus greenliting. Instead of downloading it just because it's free and taking advantage. I have a habit of downloading most free demos on PSN just because it's available.
It's a valid point.  I downloaded Flipnote Studio for the full and sole reason that it was free.

Remember, this is Nintendo's shops we're talking about; $2 is the value they put on a Goddamn clock.  On a system that A. ALREADY HAS A CLOCK, and B. you would NEVER leave open when not in use in the first place.

This is especially true if they label it a PROTOYPE or a DEMO. Normal people will go; "pay for a demo?! screw you!!"
It's a name game, and anyone who's been in sales for a month if even that will tell you that it's a valid tactic.  "Prototype" and "demo" may mean the same thing to the free-thinking minority, but the mass of consumers think differently.  "Demo" is a freebie trial.  "Prototype" is some forbidden fruit that would ordinarilly stay behind closed doors.  Hence, the game is called "prototype version".

*wink, wink*

Going along with this is the fact that it includes debug features as an unlockable.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Flame on April 26, 2011, 03:47:33 AM
It does?
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Hypershell on April 26, 2011, 04:09:30 AM
 -AC
Is it too much to ask that people actually know what they're bitching about?
...nevermind, stupid question.

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...once you have finished the core missions, receive access to areas of the game not yet finished, as well as a debug menu that gives you special moves and abilities.
http://www.capcom-unity.com/devroom/blog/2011/04/21/mega_man_legends_3:_prototype_version (http://www.capcom-unity.com/devroom/blog/2011/04/21/mega_man_legends_3:_prototype_version)

So once you're done with the game, you earn the "developer's right" to break it.  Works for me.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Wanda Bear on April 26, 2011, 04:24:59 AM
What? Megaman MINECRAFT Legends?! xD
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Flame on April 26, 2011, 07:10:35 AM
Mineman Legends?

BTW, for the record- Im not complaining about the 2$, just the stoopid move of "greenlight only if prototype sales = good even though its  a brand new system not everybody owns yet"
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on April 26, 2011, 02:57:41 PM
Regardless, prototype still carries the stigma of "unfinished" "not a full product" "glitchy".

Perhaps "First Episode" or "Episode 1" would be a far better title. Most people browsing through the shop wont bother to see the details if they're turned off by the title. Whether it has debug features or not, they may never know as they pass up the listing/article. This assumes they actually care about debug or unfinished areas. Some of us think "oh cool prototype" but not many outside of the hardcore fans would actually PAY for those, even a small amount. Most normal people think "oh well it's not the whole game, so why should I be paying?"

For what the misguided big wigs of Capcom are trying to accomplish by this asinine ploy, it's completely counter intuitive.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Reaperoid on April 26, 2011, 03:26:09 PM
It isn't a conventional demo like DASH2 Episode 1, no matter how you consider it. Not your usual "Not a full product" either, but an insight into development and actually intending the debug features for eventual use by the end-user, make it that little something that stands out. Sandboxing is a trend, but it delivers on the headline so far: the fact that this is indeed the players' (and the fans') game, so why not?
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on April 26, 2011, 03:28:47 PM
You know that, I know that, but outside of that? The general gaming population will likely not be following it that close, or perhaps not even care.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Reaperoid on April 26, 2011, 03:36:46 PM
Being a launch title on eShop is probably the smartest move it'll get for the moment.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: prower42 on April 26, 2011, 08:30:08 PM

(http://s4.postimage.org/2bjl4u63o/Capcom_s_gone_mad.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/2bjl4u63o/)
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Hypershell on April 27, 2011, 12:49:59 AM
You know that, I know that, but outside of that? The general gaming population will likely not be following it that close, or perhaps not even care.
The general public is not reading "prototype" as synonymous with "demo".  That's you, me, and the rest of the fanbase talking.  Most of Capcom's texts that I've read lately are straying away from the latter, perhaps for the very reasons you mentioned, trying to dodge the "trial" mentality.  I suggest we do the same.

Further, I feel obliged to point out, that the reading of "hype" as synonymous with "sales" is also fan-based.  Take notice of something: Every L3 Prototype text takes a moment to build up the Devroom; both that existing contributions will be present in the Prototype, and encouraging further input after playing.  Point being, they're using the Prototype to push the Devroom.  To be clear, there is no doubt in my mind that sales of the prototype will impact Capcom's decision, that's just common sense; but I think there's more to it than that.  They're also still using the Devroom to gauge interest.  So fans, not only do you need to buy the damn thing, but go to the Devroom to discuss your experience.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Turian on April 27, 2011, 02:45:35 AM
So basically, they wanna draw more attention. Thats actually makes sense.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: VixyNyan on April 28, 2011, 03:06:33 AM
I find it funny that we still haven't mentioned the rating of the game (Prototype) yet. XD

CERO B, which would normally translate to a Teen rating by ESRB.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Gaia on April 28, 2011, 03:37:48 AM
CERO B? This might make Legends 3 the first of T-Rated Mega Man games, uh-oh, we might see fantasies of fanbois come to life.  XD
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Hypershell on April 28, 2011, 03:50:08 AM
Or it may mean that it'll give CoA's censors a lot to think about.

Well, ZX Advent got away with E-10 IIRC, so here's hoping.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: slayer on April 28, 2011, 04:52:01 PM
dash 3  could be T-rated?

you know....it`s funny ,because i`m not sure what it takes to give a t-rating, for example kingdom hearts 2 is rated T, why? i dont know, in other hand starcraft 2 is also T, but Sc has blood , swear words, and  8U aaaaaand....Nova , whatever i dont work on esrb, so i think they have their reasons....
just i want the game to be good (Dash 3) that is, see ya later....
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Phi on April 28, 2011, 09:08:58 PM
for example kingdom hearts 2 is rated T

False.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Gaia on April 28, 2011, 09:15:59 PM
KHII got a T (or a E-10) because of it's darker tone compared to the other games, plus those moments when enemies can just leap out and attack you, that and a good sum of violence included. Or it could be that the ESERB gets paranoid at times and mis-labels the games they rate.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Solar on April 28, 2011, 09:39:20 PM
E10 and T are not the same thing =/

This is what KH2 got

Kingdom Hearts 2
Square Enix, Inc
Everyone 10+
Mild Blood, Use of Alcohol, Violence    
PlayStation 2

The only reason KH1 is not E10 like pretty much the rest of the franchise is that the rating didn't exist yet.


Anyways, wonder what the B is for. Still, it's not like the ratings are always equivalent in both areas (main offender: The SMT series).

Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Gaia on April 28, 2011, 10:28:42 PM
I know, which is why the "or" part is in parenthesis with E-10. Most likely because my memory's cloudy since the last time I touched a PS2 game.

B for Rockman DASH 3. Welp, the hidden inneudo might make a comeback.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Flame on April 28, 2011, 10:29:28 PM
Well... sometimes, the ESRB sees one particular thing in the game, it could make them give it a higher rating.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Reaperoid on April 29, 2011, 06:00:36 AM
They've classified the Prototype (http://www.classification.gov.au/www/cob/find.nsf/5b6ebdff7f5b9a24ca2575ca00062226/cebbb82599c4b4d7ca257876005d6fb8?OpenDocument) as PG here, which seems about right, actually.
PG used to be G8+ back in the day (http://www.classification.gov.au/www/cob/find.nsf/d853f429dd038ae1ca25759b0003557c/9693e38516c2cec6ca257671007a8b32?OpenDocument).
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Zan on April 29, 2011, 08:52:01 PM
The more kid-friendly a rating the less we can kick.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Hypershell on April 30, 2011, 05:14:28 AM
...he's not wrong.

So, the month of May officially begins on Sunday.  Wish NoA would just spit out when that dang e-Shop is launching already.  >.>
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on April 30, 2011, 03:52:23 PM
So, the month of May officially begins on Sunday.  Wish NoA would just spit out when that dang e-Shop is launching already.  >.>

I hear that. I want to finally get my hands on Shantae DS.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Kieran on April 30, 2011, 05:14:15 PM
Apparently it's gonna be toward the end of the month.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Hypershell on May 01, 2011, 04:01:13 AM
Still pretty ambiguous.  Anything past the 20th or so could easily be considered "towards the end".

Further, I believe Nintendo's stated that it is not possible for SpotPass to automatically update the 3DS prior to the e-Shop, so if I gotta manually update then I DAMN WELL expect to be told the soonest that I can do so.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Phi on May 14, 2011, 05:42:29 PM


skip to 1:05 for the sweet gameplay.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on May 14, 2011, 06:03:03 PM
I wonder how rough this version is. Honestly the city looks ripped out of a PSX game. Very very flat... The characters are nicely done however, which makes this a very contrasting look, which is not good.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Fxeni on May 14, 2011, 08:08:31 PM
Well, it's called a prototype for a reason, not to mention the fact that Dash 3 isn't even fully green lit yet. Also, lets keep in mind what Keiji Inafune just said recently about prototypes and how he made some of them become full-fledged games... there's a reason he's saying stuff like this right now, guys. Catch on.

As far as this build of the game, it looks like they spent more time on the character models and the dungeon rather than the city.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Hypershell on May 15, 2011, 04:22:58 AM
Fine by me, those are the more interesting parts of the game anyway IMHO (good character models and dull environment kicks the crap out of the other way around; see MHX).  The prototype is a prototype, after all.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Flame on May 15, 2011, 05:58:08 AM
I wonder if the Legends team will get the hidden message from Inafune...

it would be hard not to, considering he's talking about capcom secrets and such. folks who knew him at Cappy must be keeping tabs on him no doubt.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Mirby on May 15, 2011, 07:24:30 AM
Yeah, the Capcom Intelligence Agency. 
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on May 15, 2011, 09:39:12 PM
Prototype or not, cubes with textures are pretty cheap. The dungeons have more polygon base designs than that so far they've shown. The idea here is to sort of impress and give a good idea of what the game is all about, so it seems a little silly to leave things that low key. Some things could be left somewhat unpolished yeah, but that's really really place holder.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Fxeni on May 16, 2011, 01:25:15 PM
Trust me, it could have been all cubes. Also, I'm guessing the wall running that you can do has something to do with it. They probably didn't fully code the feature to handle more than flat surfaces for the moment.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on May 16, 2011, 07:49:04 PM
That's a good point, the walls could be flat because of Barret. Though in 3D game programming the graphical and physical are not one in the same, Despite what the graphics show, Barret wouldn't be impacted by them physically. It would just look odd as he ran through a tarp on his way up.

That said, I'm starting to wonder if they will bother fixing that at all because of this... Suddenly I feel uneasy about the whole thing.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Flame on May 16, 2011, 08:19:00 PM
You mean you didnt feel uneasy to begin with?
I was uneasy the moment Capcom said it's greenlight depended on how well they considered the prototype sold.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on May 16, 2011, 10:46:36 PM
I meant, uneasy about the quality of the final product.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Hypershell on May 17, 2011, 01:47:28 AM
Who are you kidding?  You've BEEN uneasy about the quality of the final product ever since the concept of the Devroom was first announced.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on May 17, 2011, 02:11:16 AM
It wasn't so bad after since I saw how the dev team was reserving the right to change things enough to fit the style. And this, well, is just boxes with textures. I sure as hell hope they go back and redo the entire town period before official release.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Hypershell on May 17, 2011, 02:50:06 AM
The point stands.  Every time a new snippit trickles through the line, somebody finds a reason to second-guess it.

The game is not only unfinished but is pre-greenlight; they have publically stated that the Prototype includes access to unfinished areas, and we can see that the dungeons show what they're capable of for the time being.  That should be enough for a $2 game.  ESPECIALLY in light of the fact that we've seen storyboard drawings being used as cutscene placeholders; it should be no small stretch of logic whatsoever that not every featured polygon is necessarily in its final state.  Hell, Tron's in it, and according to the Devroom's character introductions, her design hasn't even been approved yet.

None of this is anything unusual, either.  DASH2 Episode 1 had some rough spots as well; off the top of my head Barrel's model was unchanged from L1.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on May 17, 2011, 03:28:45 AM
True, true. I guess I'm just paranoid Capcom won't fix the obvious crappy buildings. I mean, they DID give us X7 after all. It's not unlike them to just half ass things at times. Legends 2 probably had a bigger budget than Legends 3 will ever see though. Gah, the worries!
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Fxeni on May 17, 2011, 04:41:32 AM
That's a good point, the walls could be flat because of Barret. Though in 3D game programming the graphical and physical are not one in the same, Despite what the graphics show, Barret wouldn't be impacted by them physically. It would just look odd as he ran through a tarp on his way up.

That said, I'm starting to wonder if they will bother fixing that at all because of this... Suddenly I feel uneasy about the whole thing.
That's precisely what I meant. Everything looking like a box is an infinitely better solution than Barret clipping through everything as he makes his way around. Which do you think would cause a larger outroar?
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Flame on May 17, 2011, 04:53:14 AM
True, true. I guess I'm just paranoid Capcom won't fix the obvious crappy buildings. I mean, they DID give us X7 after all. It's not unlike them to just half ass things at times. Legends 2 probably had a bigger budget than Legends 3 will ever see though. Gah, the worries!
I honestly see the problem with X7 to be not visuals or any of the models or environments, but a bad engine and overly linear stage layout. AKA bad level design. Mega Man games usually look pretty good. I can only think of the models in X8 and MHX as an odd exception. (character design aside.) And maybe Command missions lack of expressions. But environments pretty much always look great. Im certain Legends 3 will be no exception for it's final release.

Especially a game that's been 10 years in the cue and which they are pouring so much creativity, love and fan imput on.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Hypershell on May 17, 2011, 11:57:47 PM
That's precisely what I meant. Everything looking like a box is an infinitely better solution than Barret clipping through everything as he makes his way around. Which do you think would cause a larger outroar?
The simple solution would be to limit which walls Barrett can climb.  Which they have to do anyway for their landscaping in the dungeons.  They'll get there.

I honestly see the problem with X7 to be not visuals or any of the models or environments, but a bad engine and overly linear stage layout. AKA bad level design.
Zero's disconnected hair aside, Flame has a good point.  There wasn't a whole lot wrong with X7 visually; hell the character models are considerably better than X8's.  But the only 2D segment worth a damn in the entire game is Stonekong's level.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 18, 2011, 12:08:27 AM
I honestly see the problem with X7 to be not visuals or any of the models or environments, but a bad engine and overly linear stage layout. AKA bad level design. Mega Man games usually look pretty good.

There are many many MANY problems with X7. The visuals & models were not one of them.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Mirby on May 18, 2011, 01:20:03 AM
"I HAVE NO CHOICE!"

Stop whining X. It doesn't suit you.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Blackhook on May 18, 2011, 11:08:31 AM
X7 does have a sweet soundtrack though.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Flame on May 18, 2011, 01:19:03 PM
What MegaMan game doesnt?
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Blackhook on May 18, 2011, 01:56:29 PM
Megaman II Gameboy
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: AquaTeamV3 on May 18, 2011, 06:20:05 PM
Megaman II Gameboy

I thought Airman's stage tune from MMIIGB was actually catchy.  The others, however...
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 18, 2011, 08:28:43 PM
I thought Airman's stage tune from MMIIGB was actually catchy.  The others, however...

The real problem with the MMII GB soundtrack is really just the high pitch aspect of it.



I mean, I think this version sounds much better than the original.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Blackhook on May 18, 2011, 09:39:39 PM
1 song doesn't make a soundtrack..also it had to be tampered with to be 'listenable'
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Hypershell on May 19, 2011, 12:54:45 AM
Okay, you CANNOT YouTube link MMII Air Man without linking Yuu's remix.



The real problem with the MMII GB soundtrack is really just the high pitch aspect of it.
True.  Xtreme1 has the same problem, which you can easily observe by comparing the victory jingle to Xtreme2's (same music, different instruments).
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Flame on May 19, 2011, 01:08:11 AM
Xtreme 1 had a lot of that whiney violin type thing.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 19, 2011, 03:51:26 AM
1 song doesn't make a soundtrack..also it had to be tampered with to be 'listenable'

No no, my point is that a lot of the tracks had good melodies. It was just the high-pitch ness which made in intolerable. I just didn't feel like linking all the remixes.

Okay, you CANNOT YouTube link MMII Air Man without linking Yuu's remix.


True.  Xtreme1 has the same problem, which you can easily observe by comparing the victory jingle to Xtreme2's (same music, different instruments).

Heh, I was just using the other link to illustrate a point about what a better 8-bit MMIIGB soundtrack would sound like! And yeah, with Xtreme 1 as well.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 20, 2011, 06:58:23 PM
http://protodudesrockmancorner.blogspot.com/2011/05/mml3-prototype-delayed.html
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Blackhook on May 20, 2011, 08:11:41 PM
Am I the only one who thinks that was a smart move?
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on May 20, 2011, 08:13:33 PM
The longer they hold off and refine, the better to be honest. It'll give the 3DS a bigger install base, and increase the quality all at the same time. It also drives forward into the cost factor, making a green light more and more a viable option, like Inafune did with Dead Rising. Sooner or later it was a "we sank enough cash into it, might as well just go all the way."
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Flame on May 20, 2011, 10:55:44 PM
Well seems like they got Inafune's message after all, then.

yeah this is definitely for the best.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Hypershell on May 20, 2011, 11:37:11 PM
I'd strenuously disagree if not for OBJECTION MAN's final point.  The issue of cost is comforting, and if someone on board thinks that's what it'll take to get the game greenlit, then by all means.  But in terms of the public relations, I think the delay in time is hurtful rather than helpful.

It's hard to say without knowing what they're "improving" of course, since there's no real means of weighing the benefit.  But I thought the idea here was for us to see what Capcom's greenlight-team saw?  Further, that whole "early adopter" strategy loses its weight the longer Capcom holds off, and they have (or had) the opportunity for a *HUGE* one-up over any competition in the e-Shop.  By and large the consensus is that the 3DS's "launch window" library is lacking, and most every internet-enabled consumer is looking to June 6 for some sense of pre-OoT relief.  Capcom's name is attached to the definite biggest title thus far (DoA Dimensions is the only thing that comes close to challenging it), and L3 was making rounds among general gaming sites as the most well known e-Shop launch title; had they been there for day one of the e-Shop, when NOTHING ELSE OUTSIDE OF THE VIRTUAL CONSOLE SERVICE HAS BEEN HYPED IN THE LEAST, they'd have indisputably ruled it.  It's going to be a missed opportunity if they delay too long.  Further, the fact that they did this a mere 2-1/2 weeks prior to release is an exceptional buzz-kill, which will only get more frustrating the longer they go without giving us something definitive.

Cappy, we've waited a long time, and yes we can wait a little longer (as EXCRUCIATINGLY PAINFUL as it may be...).  I'm not sure that the rest of the world will, though, so hop to it.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Flame on July 07, 2011, 05:56:48 AM
gonna bring this back-

They have chosen the winning mascot for the Bright Bats.

Tinker the ferret.

(http://img807.imageshack.us/img807/7425/tinker450x346.png)

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Tinker is a mischievous little ferret that the Bright Bats found while exploring ancient ruins, where Tinker had accidentally wandered inside out of his own curious nature.  When he was found, he seemed like a normal ferret except for a strange belt with a reaverbot eye around his waist.  Oddly enough, Tinker seems very protective of it when people even try to touch it.  When the Bright Bats took him in, they couldn’t think of a name for him until Barret noticed the curious ferret would observe Grill as he made his inventions, one day seeing him try to create something himself out of the junk Pic had collected.  Barret came up with the name Tinker due to the way he would play with the parts and his curiosity
http://protodudesrockmancorner.blogspot.com/2011/07/winning-bright-bats-mascot-announced.html
http://www.themmnetwork.com/2011/07/05/the-bright-bats-chose-tinker-as-their-mascot/

kind of odd the mascot isnt, yknow, a BAT, but it looks cute either way. We'll see what the redesign looks like.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Archer on July 07, 2011, 07:11:20 AM
Nice Batman symbol there.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Setsuna F. Seiei on July 07, 2011, 12:22:15 PM
http://www.themmnetwork.com/2011/07/07/dash-3-vanishes-from-coj-front-page/

I don't want to say CALLED IT, but...

DELICIOUS TEARS. And so on, as they say.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Blackhook on July 07, 2011, 12:25:09 PM
Noone said it got cancelled...yet.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Reaperoid on July 07, 2011, 01:08:03 PM
You didn't have to be such a dick about it, learn to read (http://www.themmnetwork.com/2011/07/07/dash-3-vanishes-from-coj-front-page/comment-page-1/#comment-202386) the comments (http://www.themmnetwork.com/2011/07/07/dash-3-vanishes-from-coj-front-page/comment-page-1/#comment-202428) first before you make such rash posts.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Setsuna F. Seiei on July 07, 2011, 02:12:26 PM
You didn't have to be such a dick about it

Yes I did.

Tieria was no longer a jerk in S2, and the future needs jerks too. So Setsuna has to fill in. (Because Prince Ali was too awesome to be a jerk)
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Gotham Ranger on July 07, 2011, 02:34:03 PM
Tieria was no longer a jerk in S2, and the future needs jerks too. So Setsuna has to fill in. (Because Prince Ali was too awesome to be a jerk)
I'm pretty sure you're retarded or something.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Nekomata on July 07, 2011, 02:43:22 PM
I'm pretty sure you're retarded or something.
I've only been saying this for the past.... years.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Acid on July 07, 2011, 02:49:50 PM
I've only been saying this for the past.... years.

I think you were gone during that specific time.

Anyway, everyone chill out.
Nothing is confirmed or denied.

Waiting for an official statement on that matter is still early enough to be a dick or to be relieved.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Nekomata on July 07, 2011, 02:58:01 PM
Well I was probably remembering a good chunk of the user base here as being retarded during that time..
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: VixyNyan on July 19, 2011, 03:23:38 AM
WHY?! (http://www.capcom-unity.com/gregaman/blog/2011/07/18/a_message_from_capcom) O^O
Title: MEGAMAN LEGENDS 3 OFFICIALLY..... "DEAD"!
Post by: N-Mario on July 19, 2011, 03:24:35 AM
http://www.capcom-unity.com/gregaman/blog/2011/07/18/a_message_from_capcom

First MegaMan Universe. Now this. I knew it was going to happen eventually, right after Keiji Inafune's departure with Capcom. :P
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Klavier Gavin on July 19, 2011, 03:25:06 AM
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We'd like to thank you for your ongoing loyal support of Mega Man Legends 3. Today, however, we must regrettably announce the discontinuation of this project.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: STM on July 19, 2011, 03:45:22 AM
Called it from a mile away after it was pulled.

That's cool. It just means Capcom will never see my support financially again.

(puts on pirate hat and eye patch)

'Tis a good time, y'arr.

Also, I no longer have a reason to keep a 3DS. Selling that [tornado fang]er.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Kieran on July 19, 2011, 03:51:05 AM
Yeah, Capcom can pretty much go [tornado fang] themselves now.  I'm never buying another one of their games again.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Flame on July 19, 2011, 04:12:04 AM
What the [tornado fang] kind of criteria wasnt met when they prototype wasnt even released? Capcom said they would gauge interest based on the prototype. Only figures they would go back on their word and can it outright.

"nothing to do with Inafune's departure" my ass. This has "revenge move" written all over it.

s'okay though, Capcom will never see another penny from me towards any of their games either.

[tornado fang] you Capcom. [tornado fang] you.

R.I.P. Mega Man
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Phi on July 19, 2011, 04:16:07 AM
I'll be completely honest. This was a little unexpected for me. I mean, they had TONS of support with this thing and they seemed to have genuine fun with developing it. For that moment, i had hope that this could actually come to fruition. At the VERY least, they still could've released the goddamn Prototype as a "memento" of sorts for the DASH franchise. But no, the higher ups at Capcom are money-grubbing whores who thought, "DERP THIS WONT MEAK MUNNY". Evidently toying with the fans from the very beginning.

And [tornado fang], the Prototype was supposed to be the deciding factor of green lighting this game. I'll be damned if they announce a MM11 or some [parasitic bomb] soon after. Go ahead Capcom, you know you want to milk it some more.

Also, I no longer have a reason to keep a 3DS. Selling that [tornado fang]er.

I would say to hold onto it atleast 'till early 2012 if anything worthwhile is announced, but whatever, it's your money.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Solar on July 19, 2011, 04:21:26 AM
What a way to ruin a guy's day.


What do we even have to look forward to now? The only thing right now is hoping X gets added to MvC3, and THAT'S IT. I could've never imagined that the future of the Mega Man franchise of all things would ever be so uncertain.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Phi on July 19, 2011, 04:28:10 AM
I suggest making a News & Announcement post about this, so the word is out there. Thus becoming the "[sonic slicer] about Capcom" thread, close cousin of the "[sonic slicer] about Sonic" thread. :P
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Police Girl on July 19, 2011, 05:38:35 AM
Well, the one reason I had for getting a 3DS is gone.

Thanks a ton capcom, you saved me money but you cost yourself a guaranteed sale of MML3.

But you don't care. Go [tornado fang] yourselves, there hasn't been a Megaman game for a few years that hasn't been 8-bit "LOLRETRO" or Starforce and the ONE CHANCE WE HAVE OF SOMETHING DIFFERENT IS GONE.

SMOOTH MOVES.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Sigma Zero X on July 19, 2011, 05:48:30 AM
If Botos or Cinnamon were to put into words what just happened, they would say this (and something that I would probably say too):

"Oh No!"


I had a feeling this would happen, but not this soon. 
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: N-Mario on July 19, 2011, 07:49:31 AM
Vixy. Would it be any difficult for you to change the text about MM Legends 3 at the top on the front page?
Now that it's cancelled, it probably would be a bit mis-leading at this point. :-/
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Blackhook on July 19, 2011, 07:56:28 AM
Can't you see it. Capcom is just testing the Megaman fans. Now that they see how they behave they will be all like :"Lol, U GAIZ no deserve gamez you want. "
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Archer on July 19, 2011, 07:57:50 AM
Can't you see it. Capcom is just testing the Megaman fans. Now that they see how they behave they will be all like :"Lol, U GAIZ no deserve gamez you want. "

Capcom is Sato?
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Flame on July 19, 2011, 08:01:24 AM
Can't you see it. Capcom is just testing the Megaman fans. Now that they see how they behave they will be all like :"Lol, U GAIZ no deserve gamez you want. "
*Implying they would give the fans what they want either way*
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Nekomata on July 19, 2011, 12:08:24 PM
*Implying they would give the fans what they want either way*
They've given me a few fun co-op experiences, maybe you should stop wanting the impossible.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Flame on July 19, 2011, 01:45:09 PM
nothing is impossible, just unlikely.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Mirby on July 19, 2011, 09:36:04 PM
Welp, after reading the FAQ I still feel gypped. Especially with this one.

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Q. What will happen to the ideas and input participants have given to the Dev Room?

A. Content will remain viewable on the Devroom, but will not be utilized for any future projects.

So basically, all the hard work and ideas are still there, but for all intents and purposes the effort put forth was for nothing. HAY MAKE SUM BOSSES AND STUFF AND POUR YOUR HEART AND SOUL INTO IT... AND THEN WE'LL CRUSH YOUR DREAMS!! 8D

Seriously, Superdee's avvy, that face right there, sums it up perfectly.

Capcom just surpassed Nintendo as the biggest trolls in gaming history. The only thing that would've been bigger than this would be if Valve had said, on the day of Portal 2's release, OH THE GAME IS A LIE. AHAHAHA
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Hypershell on July 20, 2011, 12:21:34 AM
So, their "experiment" to gauge interest is delayed so that it can be "further improved", and during those "improvements", they can the entire project outright.

Dick.  Move.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: N-Mario on July 20, 2011, 05:30:10 AM
http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/itdlp/megaman_legends_3_cancelled/c26ind3
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Legends 3 was cancelled because it wasn't a good game, and they had no idea how to make it good. Everything about it was just so bland. Then when you factor in the low sell numbers of the 3DS, even if every person who owned a 3DS bought Legends 3 the game still wasn't going to make a profit. So instead of releasing a game that wasn't good and wasn't going to profit, it was cancelled. And trust me, Capcom knows how angry you are, they knew before they made the announcement public.

It became a question of which wrath do we want to incur - "[tornado fang] you Capcom this game sucks!" or "[tornado fang] you Capcom for cancelling it!" Both are less than desireable but at least with the latter some costs can be saved.

Personally I would have loved them to release a game anyway. Even if ppl/reviewers did go with "[tornado fang] you Capcom for a terrible game." At least we would've seen MegaMan come back from space. :P
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Flame on July 20, 2011, 05:36:06 AM
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"[tornado fang] you Capcom this game sucks!" or "[tornado fang] you Capcom for cancelling it!"

Ill take the first option with a side of "finally resolving the cliffhanger"
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on July 20, 2011, 05:48:14 PM
I'd take the game over nothing any day. It as it was, was pretty good looking. Visually rough, but the gameplay looked nice. It looked like a smoother Legends 2 with improvements and new abilities. That in itself is great.

Also, it's a prototype people. Of course it's going to look rough. Not demo, not beta, not 'episode one', a PROTOTYPE. You guys do know what prototype means, right?
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Hypershell on July 21, 2011, 01:51:26 AM
Indeed.  And I have seen retail 3DS and Wii games that looked considerably worse than the Legends 3 Prototype.

The Prototype Version's absence is what ticks me off.  Literally, there is *NOTHING* in the way of "3DS Ware".  Not one.  Damn.  Thing.  The e-Shop is full of Virtual Console, DSi, and free [parasitic bomb] to keep people looking.  Capcom had a chance to [tornado fang]ing MONOPOLIZE the demograph and they simply walked away, after delaying the Prototype past it's original release date.  What the bloody hell were they thinking? 

Even if things were truly as bleak as they say, even if a 100% penetration rate of the installed userbase couldn't recoup the cost, the damn thing was done already and it's part of what was promised as the "extended trial" BEFORE the game's final fate would be decided.  There was no reason to not at least release the Prototype and wait another damn month.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Mirby on July 21, 2011, 02:04:33 AM
Well this isn't the first completely illogical decision a game company has made before.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: STM on July 21, 2011, 02:07:38 AM
http://twitter.com/#!/CapcomEuro/status/93720826087620608 (http://twitter.com/#!/CapcomEuro/status/93720826087620608)
Quote from: CapcomEuro
@kdawg3000 it's a shame the fans didn't want to get more involved :-( if we saw there was an audience for MML3 people might change minds

This is some grade A troll material right here. Just keep on chumming the waters.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: N-Mario on July 21, 2011, 02:45:28 AM
http://twitter.com/#!/CapcomEuro/status/93720826087620608 (http://twitter.com/#!/CapcomEuro/status/93720826087620608)
This is some grade A troll material right here. Just keep on chumming the waters.

Your Aku avatar makes this post even more great. :D
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: ViperAcidZX on July 21, 2011, 02:53:05 AM
Quote from: @kdawg3000 said
it's a shame the fans didn't want to get more involved :-( if we saw there was an audience for MML3 people might change minds

(http://static.images.memegenerator.net/Instances400/8/8750/8960489.jpg)

Hundreds of people -- nay, fans of the Legends series -- submitted their ideas, suggestions, and even concept art for enemy and boss designs, and Capcom have the [tornado fang]ing nerve to tell US this to our faces?! You guys are in for a nerd-rage [parasitic bomb] storm at an epic scale. o//////o
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: The Great Gonzo on July 21, 2011, 03:13:50 AM
Capcom of Europe, specifically.

One mod over at CU, Liana, had this to say:

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I second you guys! Thank you Christian, for taking the time to come on here, pretty much as soon as you got home! O_O

I still have major issues with Capcom Europe and the people responding via their Twitter.

In response to an article from the MMNetwork, rarely did I see any real effort from them to push the Devroom, or the MML3/Prototype projects, nay even make solid connections with Capcom's family of websites to really create a buzz or melting pot for European Mega Man fans. All they seem to care about is Moto GP, Resident Evil and stuffing Japanese producers with donuts and bloomin Ferrero Rocher!!

Are there live streams from Capcom Europe? NO. Capcom USA steps up to the plate. I hope there are more efforts from my side of the pond to take initiative and handle our own regional events and to start streaming tournaments, events (Excel, Gamescom, etc), interviews with producers and to generally make a dent on the European market. Maybe even have Seth or yourself come over here, meet our teams and introduce yourselves properly! (Sven, you got the Euro roots, come on.. )

The only thing I can commend Capcom Europe on, is their growing improvement with live events and launch parties. They have attempted to make a conscious effort to make a start with Fight Clubs. I can only hope they follow Unity's example and pull out the stops with community involvement that does not include bribery.

Their forums continue to remain stagnant. Unity seems to be the only place where any real visible effort is made and your strong, public, SOLID connections with the Japan office are undeniable.

Again, Thank You.

L

(ps- play with these ideas!)

Thread is here, by the way: http://www.capcom-unity.com/ask_capcom/go/thread/view/7371/28042937/Cleaning_things_up?pg=1

So at least one person at CoA agrees with us.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Flame on July 21, 2011, 04:15:19 AM
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@kdawg3000 it's a shame the fans didn't want to get more involved :-( if we saw there was an audience for MML3 people might change minds
(http://i887.photobucket.com/albums/ac71/Flame-G102/post%20stuff/Oh-boy-here-we-go.jpg)
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Protoman Blues on July 21, 2011, 05:59:02 AM
.........I gotta say, that's damn impressive!
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Jericho on July 21, 2011, 07:22:58 AM
I am seriously still of the belief that this is just one massive PR stunt Capcom pulled because they got bored as [tornado fang] one day and decided to see which fanbase could be most volatile when stirred. Between DmC, the Ace Attorney games not leaving Japan any more and of course this, it was just a Russian Roulette and Legends got the bullet. XD

*Thanks God that fighting game Capcom is still awesome and Ultimate Marvel VS Capcom 3 looks amazing thus far*
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Klavier Gavin on July 21, 2011, 07:38:12 AM
*Thanks God that fighting game Capcom is still awesome and Ultimate Marvel VS Capcom 3 looks amazing thus far*

You say that now, then they make a new version of the game 6 months later.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: STM on July 21, 2011, 08:14:06 AM
Yeah, real awesome. I love having to spend $40 more on a game I spent $60 on no more than five months ago because they got off their asses and actually finished it.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Flame on July 21, 2011, 09:13:39 AM
(http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/4319/1311230887699.jpg)
(http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/2517/1311232349806.jpg)

to quote an anon,

"I have to admit, I admire Capcom.

I wish I could troll even half as hard as they do."
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Setsuna F. Seiei on July 21, 2011, 11:59:14 AM
(http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/4319/1311230887699.jpg)

Oh god damn it, enough with the smiley you corporate schill of a [Top Spin].
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Police Girl on July 21, 2011, 12:12:16 PM
Yeah, the smiley really kinda increases the douchy feel to those absolutely fucktarded responses.

Capcom Euro isn't really making their image look that good with a completely incompetent Twitter guy.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Krystal on July 21, 2011, 12:50:01 PM
...These guys are failing the Turing Test.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Splash on July 21, 2011, 03:31:35 PM
http://www.themmnetwork.com/2011/07/20/inafune-apologizes-for-the-cancellation-of-mega-man-legends-3/
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The decision for the cancellation was out of my sphere, but as someone who took part in the development, I’d like to convey something to the staff: I’m sorry that I couldn’t be of assistance
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Blackhook on July 21, 2011, 05:28:22 PM
So yeah guy, this is getting ridiculous.
Apparently don't you dear wear/have anything megaman related at comic con and god forbid you mention Legends 3. You get kicked out.
Can anyone confirm if this is true or not?
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Acid on July 21, 2011, 05:39:26 PM
I've been thinking,

maybe we should change this thread's title?
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Flame on July 21, 2011, 05:42:46 PM
One anon suggested chanting "Legends 3" at any of Capcom's announcements, or just in general. I agree.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Jericho on July 21, 2011, 07:55:28 PM
You say that now, then they make a new version of the game 6 months later.

I'm weird about this stuff, probably because I didn't experience mass re-purchasing of editions for Capcom's fighters in the past, but this doesn't bug me in the slightest so long as they give me good value for the jump, be it in the form of new characters, modes, or the like. I do think that everyone should get options though, like a mass DLC upgrade pack for those who bought Vanilla MVC3, but in a case like this where it seems like everything is getting a mass overhaul and then some on top of new characters and engine changes, then yeah I understand the need for a disc based release. (Think SFIV -> Super SFIV transition)
Title: There's little hope for Legends 3?
Post by: N-Mario on July 22, 2011, 09:59:18 PM
http://www.siliconera.com/2011/07/22/cyberconnect2s-ceo-would-be-happy-to-work-on-mega-man-legends-3/

CyberConnect2 wut.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Acid on July 22, 2011, 10:00:27 PM
Entirely depends on Capcom and if they're willing to hand it to someone else.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Hypershell on July 22, 2011, 10:22:10 PM
We need to start keeping track of how many developers are backlashing against Legends 3's cancellation, 'cuz that's the second one I've seen.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Flame on July 22, 2011, 10:32:25 PM
Yeah. The fact that even other developers are backing up the fans on this, is proof that Capcom severely underestimated the audience for this game had.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Phi on July 22, 2011, 10:33:22 PM
Thinking about it, i don't believe cyberconnect2 made any handheld games (not entirely sure on that). So in their hands, Legends 3 could very well be a PS3 or 360 title.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Acid on July 22, 2011, 10:40:29 PM
So in their hands, Legends 3 could very well be a PS3 or 360 title.

Or Cyberconnect's ticket to the handheld market
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Blackhook on July 22, 2011, 10:43:13 PM
Didn't they make the .hack games? I think there was one for the PSP.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Gaia on July 22, 2011, 10:54:30 PM
Didn't they make the .hack games? I think there was one for the PSP.

Yeah they did, waaay back. It was .//hack/LINK if I recall. There was a CyberConnect2 reference as a hud in the "desktop screen" portion of Act 1 (which was Kite's adventure).

At this point it wouldn't hurt for them to commence development for L3.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Mirby on July 22, 2011, 10:58:42 PM
There's this now (http://www.facebook.com/pages/100000-Strong-for-Bringing-Back-Mega-Man-Legends-3/149316248475958), a Facebook group entitled "100,00 Strong For Bringing Back Mega Man Legends 3".

Some of the more interesting pages that liked this are Capcom's FB page, Nintendo's FB page, Keiji Inafune's page, and Operation Rainfall's page. Also Comic-Con International.

Capcom has now officially raised a shitstorm of truly epic proportions.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Flame on July 22, 2011, 11:00:36 PM
Kinda old news on that, but yeah. 100,000 strong. I know I liked. :P

BTW, thats not Actually inafune behind the page.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Mirby on July 22, 2011, 11:02:08 PM
Still, it says something. Even if he's not in control of that, the fact that he's there is a good rallying point. in fact, when the page wass mentioned on his page, there's a lot of YEAH THE MAN HIMSELF IS ON BOARD!

Best comment was "Fight, Keiji, for everlasting peace!"
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Phi on July 22, 2011, 11:07:16 PM
Yeah they did, waaay back. It was .//hack/LINK if I recall. There was a CyberConnect2 reference as a hud in the "desktop screen" portion of Act 1 (which was Kite's adventure).

At this point it wouldn't hurt for them to commence development for L3.

Well, now that begs the question: If on a handheld, which one? My money's on the 3DS, or even possibly the Vita.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Acid on July 22, 2011, 11:08:35 PM
Why not both?

More availability = more sales
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Flame on July 22, 2011, 11:09:29 PM
Multi console releases FTW. though I would prefer console myself.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Phi on July 22, 2011, 11:20:59 PM
That would be pretty cool. But i'm positive the 3DS version would be the gimped down graphically, considering the Vita is more powerful.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Acid on July 22, 2011, 11:31:09 PM
I didn't ML1 and 2 for graphics, and I wouldn't have played MML3 for graphics either.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Phi on July 22, 2011, 11:35:28 PM
Fair enough.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: VixyNyan on July 22, 2011, 11:44:44 PM
Thinking about it, i don't believe cyberconnect2 made any handheld games (not entirely sure on that). So in their hands, Legends 3 could very well be a PS3 or 360 title.

:(

CyberConnect2 also made Tail Concerto and Solatorobo, both being very good and worthy substitutes to the Mega Man Legends series~ <3
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Flame on July 22, 2011, 11:47:02 PM
Im pretty sure it's graphics are good enough for it's era. At least the facial expressions all are done perfectly. many gmes fell to the trap of trying to actually make the faces themselves move with polygons, which didnt always work. legends just stretched the canvas over the faces and animated them instead.

Thats aid, the 3DS Legends graphics themselves looked pretty sweet IMO, so either way its a win win.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype Officially Announced!
Post by: Gaia on July 22, 2011, 11:48:13 PM
:(


Well, not many people played Solatorobo (and mostly, I played .//hack), so I guess it makes sense.  :\

Im pretty sure it's graphics are good enough for it's era. At least the facial expressions all are done perfectly. many gmes fell to the trap of trying to actually make the faces themselves move with polygons, which didnt always work. legends just stretched the canvas over the faces and animated them instead.

Thats aid, the 3DS Legends graphics themselves looked pretty sweet IMO, so either way its a win win.

Graphics don't make the game, my friend~

Edit: Whoops, why did I change the title for..?  X(
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Flame on July 22, 2011, 11:52:05 PM
I wasnt saying that to begin with. Was just responding to Archetype's worries about dumbed down graphics. To which I said "it will look good either way"
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Phi on July 22, 2011, 11:52:56 PM
:(


Yeah, i posted that before i saw that they made Solatorobo.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Hypershell on July 23, 2011, 12:08:09 AM
As the Vita is being pushed as "almost a pocket-sized PS3", I doubt the 3DS resources would be of much help.  If "risk" is the problem, which we all know it is, then resuming what was started will help a lot more than wiping it all out.

Further, as I've mentioned elsewhere, Capcom gave us a valid reason for choosing the 3DS in that they were aiming for an "early adopter" audience.  They wanted less competition, they wanted to catch the "core" crowd, they wanted to get the word out among the fanatical, they wanted their game to stand out compared to relatively few options.  In short, the 3DS is exactly what they bargained for.

I think hardware sales being literally 10% less than Nintendo anticipated is a pretty weak excuse to be abandoning that.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Phi on July 23, 2011, 12:27:26 AM
Im pretty sure it's graphics are good enough for it's era. At least the facial expressions all are done perfectly. many gmes fell to the trap of trying to actually make the faces themselves move with polygons, which didnt always work. legends just stretched the canvas over the faces and animated them instead.

Thats aid, the 3DS Legends graphics themselves looked pretty sweet IMO, so either way its a win win.

The character models themselves were good, considering it's using the style and animation that the previous MML games had. But the buildings and landscapes looked terrible. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt given that was still a prototype, so it is passable in that aspect. Other than that, the game definitly has undeniable charm.

If they do make it multi-platform, the graphics might not be only thing inferior on the 3DS version. They might focus too much on the "superior" platform, leaving the 3DS with all the bugs and glitches. Things like that have happened before. I don't want to sound negative, but i just fear for that a little.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on July 23, 2011, 06:15:09 AM
Agreeing above on graphics.

If it was all Legends PSX quality in it's entirety, as much as a cop out that is, It would still look good.

The reason the prototype didn't particularly look good is not because any one part of the game was lacking in individual quality, so much as it was inconsistency between the assets. The character models were well made with a nice high poly look, very contrasted with the buildings with had a down right minimalistic look. That contrast is what creates the bad look. Though you can't deny other 3DS games already looked better, consistency aside. I believe this is merely due to it being a prototype version.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Protoman Blues on July 23, 2011, 07:54:39 AM
Curious:

Would anyone like this on the Wii U instead of the 3DS?
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: The Great Gonzo on July 23, 2011, 08:38:02 AM
Either way, I'd have to get a new piece of hardware. At least on the 3DS, I could play it in private.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Phi on July 23, 2011, 09:00:34 AM
Either way, I'd have to get a new piece of hardware. At least on the 3DS, I could play it in private.

You could play it in private using the Wii U technology as well. Simply stream the game from the TV to controller.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Flame on July 23, 2011, 09:16:58 AM
dunno. Im certain a 3DS would be far cheaper than the Wii-U. who knows if Im going to get either any time soon, but given proces, im likely to get the handheld first.

TBH, I would like it on the Wii. should have been on the wii to begin with IMO.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Mirby on July 23, 2011, 10:22:37 AM
While the thought of having a Spotter in the tablet is awesome, I just want this out at this point.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Hypershell on July 23, 2011, 02:24:13 PM
As far as my own personal preference goes, I'd have loved to see this game on the Wii.  But we all know what new console releases from Nintendo do to their predecessors, and we don't need Legends 3 turning into the next Okamiden.  For that matter, we don't need it turning into the next Zack & Wiki either, which was supposed to be the whole point of the "early audience" shpiel.

I still maintain that the 3DS is the best fit, for practicality's sake.  It's just too late for the Wii, and 3DS is likely the next cheapest to develop for, especially given that's where the last nine months of work has already been done.  Why waste that effort?  Assume of the sake of argument Capcom does start L3 again; if they pulled the plug on it after coming this far, and after seeing so much excitement, then they would most likely do the exact same thing if they keep starting from scratch.  ESPECIALLY if they tried to do so on an HD console, Wii-U included (not that I wouldn't love Wii controls in HD with a "spotter" handling the tablet).  Remember this is the company that kicked Monster Hunter from PS3 to Wii due to development cost, while everyone was bitching that third parties can't sell on the Wii.  They're not going to approve Legends 3 for development on an HD system.

Further, and forgive my pessimism, but if the 3DS is being trashed as "the next Virtual Boy" for falling 400k units under Nintendo's expectations (which is an utterly ridiculous comparison), then no way in hell is the Wii-U a solid investment.  At least with the 3DS we have good [parasitic bomb] to look forward to.  Neither Nintendo nor 3rd parties have shown any compelling exclusives for Wii-U.  We know from past experience that the Zelda demo won't go anywhere, and a launch of enhanced ports isn't going to make the thing fly off of shelves any better than Pilotwings and SSF4 moved the 3DS.

Capcom needs to pick up where they left off, on the 3DS.  If they don't, the game will not survive another development cycle.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Flame on July 24, 2011, 06:43:16 AM
http://www.giantbomb.com/news/a-lesson-in-how-not-to-cancel-a-video-game/3513/
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: VirusChris on July 25, 2011, 06:35:19 AM
I brought a 3DS solely to buy Legends 3, even download the Prototype version, but when I saw it got cancelled I said "What the hell!?". I utterly could not believe they did that and they never extend a hand of apologize in a vague form of reason why it was cancel. I'm baffled, flabbergasted,  why is got canceled. I loved Legends 1 and 2, though I never beat them as I got stuck on the Final Area in Legends 1 and I played my distant cousin's Legends 2 over at his house for a bit but I love the style and gameplay since it was new and interest... and downright fun! Plus I remember scaring me or creeping me out when I first played Legends 1 as a kid because I'm walking around in the dark in ruins, where these giant robots come to alive and attack and finally running away from it leading to a super cool scene of Mega Man jumping off onto an airship below him.

I didn't contribute anything to the game, I stood there and watch and hope it would come out, but getting canned. I'm seriously ticked off and sad, I wanted to buy and play the heck out of it! It would of be the most awesome 3DS game and I well warm welcome addition to my short collection of 3DS games. I don't understand why the Prototype version couldn't be release even if the Full version wasn't coming out, at least we had a playable form of 3 to enjoy!

This is even more salt on wounds with Mega Man, any form, not appearing in UMvC because he "didn't rank high enough on the polls". He was #1 on the poll, the X version as he hasn't appeared in fight-able form in a Fighting game yet. They could at least say something else, I have a MUGEN version of X from X8 who uses kicks and punches and fires out his buster and incredible speed and height, who is entirely in 3D! I have no idea why they can't do that! But let's stop there.

I grew up with the X series, played the Battle Network and Starforce series which I enjoyed greatly, the Zero and ZX series was an awesome addition to the Mega Man series, and I got to try out the original Classic Mega Man series and even though the difficulty was tough it was a super fun game. And the Legends series is also one of my most-loved parts of the Mega Man games, it had beautiful graphics (though I prefer gameplay over graphics) and the gameplay and story were amazing with enjoyable characters and tons of weapon customizations.

I guess I'll go on ebay and buy the PS1 Mega Man Legends games as there's no PSP English versions for them and so I can replay two great Mega Man I never got the chance to finish, nor the third one which I believe it would of sold well. They could of at least make a minimum amount of copies, if the Prototype is a success, and see how popular it would be to start making more.

Farewell Mega Man, we will always fight for everlasting peace... for you.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Phi on July 25, 2011, 07:14:48 AM
Buying a system for only one or two games is completely idiotic. I don't understand why so many people do that.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: VirusChris on July 25, 2011, 07:25:27 AM
Well I brought also for many other games like The Legend of Zelda: OoT 3D, Star Fox 3D, Tales of the Abyss 3D, Kid Icarus, Dead or Alive Dimensions, and a few other games for the 3DS.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Flame on July 25, 2011, 07:50:32 AM
Buying a system for only one or two games is completely idiotic. I don't understand why so many people do that.
Again: fans = fanatics. I bought X8 before I even had a PS2, as motivation to get one. (and lo and behold I actually got one as a present later on) And my GBA has only Mega Man games for it.

I would have bought the 3DS once the price went down a few notches, and then gotten Legends 3. and AFTER that I would have looked to see if any other games interested me.


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To follow up on something Chris said though-

I just started playing L1, and I actually sort of freak out sometimes, specifically in the Main gate, when Im running away from the large reaverbot dog in the loopy path. im running away from it, with the camera pointing forward so I can see where im going, and I can only hear it, but I know if it hits me im dead because I have low health and a broken shield, and ocasionally, I can see it just barely coming into camera range, and it sort of freaks me out, like "AAAAAHHH RUUUUUUN!"

lol. silly I know. But the effect is there, and shows how despite it's age or graphics, or anything, it IS a very solid game.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Hypershell on July 27, 2011, 12:30:37 AM
I bought X8 before I even had a PS2
Same.  My brother was pissed because he had a PS2 and he knew what me with a new Mega Man game meant. 8)

Buying a system for only one or two games is completely idiotic. I don't understand why so many people do that.
Most anyone buys a system for more than two games, however there are those "flagship" one or two games that you must have, and then there's other "hey, this is kinda fun" stuff that you buy for the sake of variety.

And most anyone will tell you that while the 3DS is in no way lacking in terms of volume of software, it is severely lacking in "flagship" titles.  If you're not into either fighting games or N64 remakes, then the earliest big name in the cards is Kid Icarus, which we are still waiting on.  Legends 3, even the Prototype if nothing else, signified a great deal of relief in that respect.  Not even necessarily the game by name, but rather the entire e-Shop itself was seen as providing some precious morsels.  The Prototype Version was not only a beacon of hope to fans, it easily the most recognizable e-Shop title.

The really pathetic thing is that despite being cancelled, it still is.  I cannot believe Capcom simply walked away from that opportunity:  To this day, there is NOT ONE DAMN NATIVE 3DS VIDEO GAME on the e-Shop.  There are videos, there are 3D Classics, there is Virtual Console, and there is DSiWare.  That's all.  Capcom could have had the *ONLY* 3DS game on the 3DS e-Shop, and they were afraid it wouldn't sell, so they walked away from the monopoly that was handed to them on a silver platter.   O:<
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Phi on July 27, 2011, 01:27:43 AM
Capcom could have had the *ONLY* 3DS game on the 3DS e-Shop, and they were afraid it wouldn't sell, so they walked away from the monopoly that was handed to them on a silver platter.   O:<

When you put it that way, it is pretty ironic given the sales it could have made. Capcom said before that the Prototype was supposed to be a launch eShop title... then the eShop was announced to be delayed. Then soon after, the Prototype was delayed for "improvement". I really wonder if they decided to cancel because of the eShop delay or something else entirely. Maybe it's possible that Capcom went out and said, "eShop launch title!" in order for more people to join the Dev Room and express their hype, which in the end, was not a high enough number for them.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Kieran on July 27, 2011, 05:04:15 AM
That's not irony, Archetype.  It's abhorrent stupidity.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Tsukishiro on July 28, 2011, 04:23:53 AM
Hey, guys... I just found something most interesting, and I'm surprised that this hasn't been posted as news yet...

http://www.industrygamers.com/news/keiji-inafune-has-a-brand-new-comcept/ (http://www.industrygamers.com/news/keiji-inafune-has-a-brand-new-comcept/)

Did anyone else know about this?

Edit: Oops, I should of looked a little further into the Google search that I made, because I found this as well...

http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/04/01/inafune_companies/ (http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/04/01/inafune_companies/)

...and no, that "s" is not a typo. Inafune has started two companies, Comcept and Intercept, which surprises me to a unusual degree. Any thoughts, guys?
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Phi on July 28, 2011, 04:54:43 AM
Well this is... interesting. I'm guessing he left Capcom, with his main priority of making a company(ies) with his ideals. They can't hold him back anymore. It would be cool if he somehow got rights to Mega Man. No one would complain.

More interestingly, i wonder what Capcom's attitude toward this is.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Flame on July 28, 2011, 06:26:34 AM
From what Ive heard, one is to be geared towards Videogames, and the other at other artistic ventures.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Nekomata on July 28, 2011, 08:51:13 AM
I brought a 3DS solely to buy Legends 3
Well it's good to know you're still one of the biggest retards on this [parasitic bomb] pile.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: xnamkcor on July 28, 2011, 10:26:28 AM
Again: fans = fanatics. I bought X8 before I even had a PS2, as motivation to get one. (and lo and behold I actually got one as a present later on) And my GBA has only Mega Man games for it.

I would have bought the 3DS once the price went down a few notches, and then gotten Legends 3. and AFTER that I would have looked to see if any other games interested me.


(click to show/hide)

To follow up on something Chris said though-

I just started playing L1, and I actually sort of freak out sometimes, specifically in the Main gate, when Im running away from the large reaverbot dog in the loopy path. im running away from it, with the camera pointing forward so I can see where im going, and I can only hear it, but I know if it hits me im dead because I have low health and a broken shield, and ocasionally, I can see it just barely coming into camera range, and it sort of freaks me out, like "AAAAAHHH RUUUUUUN!"

lol. silly I know. But the effect is there, and shows how despite it's age or graphics, or anything, it IS a very solid game.

I bought Kirby NiD before I got my GBA SP(First GBA for me. No backlight? Why would I buy that?).
I bought MHX before I had a PSP(20 USD with coupon).

I have a copy of Legends 2 for PC even though I can't read Japanese(Mouse controls are fun).

Games you know you want are a cheap investment. The console is expensive.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: slayer on July 28, 2011, 11:11:00 PM
I bought Kirby NiD before I got my GBA SP(First GBA for me. No backlight? Why would I buy that?).
I bought MHX before I had a PSP(20 USD with coupon).

I have a copy of Legends 2 for PC even though I can't read Japanese(Mouse controls are fun).

Games you know you want are a cheap investment. The console is expensive.

true dat....
some people resort to emulators when they only want only type of game....
for example i don`t have a psx, but with a emulator a pc and a copie of legend and legend 2.....viola!!!!
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on September 17, 2011, 02:35:29 AM
http://uk.ds.ign.com/articles/119/1195061p1.html

Posting for drama purposes. New revelations 'n [parasitic bomb].
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Flame on September 17, 2011, 02:41:00 AM
Isnt really that new. We already knew he offered Capcom to keep working on them with his new Company and they declined.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on September 17, 2011, 02:45:51 AM
It's being shown as a new development in a recent interview, though.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Turian on September 17, 2011, 03:32:43 AM
That's because the 100,000 peeps just found out about it and sent it to every news outlet they could think of. Kinda funny.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Hypershell on September 17, 2011, 06:17:49 AM
Whatever works.  Most non-Capcom-specific news outlets other than Nintendo Power didn't pay any attention to Legends 3 before it was cancelled, so it's "new" to the general public.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on September 17, 2011, 12:28:53 PM
If it can get Capcom more bad PR, it's always a good thing.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Krystal on September 17, 2011, 04:23:33 PM
Damn attention whores :<
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Hypershell on September 26, 2011, 01:17:25 AM
...I just noticed, and I have to ask, why is GBD outlasting Trigger on the front page?
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: VixyNyan on September 26, 2011, 01:47:54 AM
Vixy. Would it be any difficult for you to change the text about MM Legends 3 at the top on the front page?
Now that it's cancelled, it probably would be a bit mis-leading at this point. :-/
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Hypershell on September 26, 2011, 02:14:15 AM
I understand that such a joyous image would not seem appropriate, but celebratory series art and text regarding making a specific game a reality are two different things.  And as far as misleading text goes:

Quote from: Front page at this very second
Both signed by Keiji "InafKing" Inafune!!
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype version officially announced!
Post by: Masterge77 on September 27, 2011, 01:04:40 AM
We were all very close, but we all need to work harder to get Legends 3.