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Rockman & Community => Rockman Series => Zero => Topic started by: slayer on April 06, 2011, 11:03:05 PM
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good evening RPM guys and girls , of course all of us love rockman, as i commented on my first post, he was my childhood hero, until....the total dessapoinment , the total chaos, the game what make the series sink into utter darkness......the zero series >_<
..........now before troll me, i know many people love the zero series, but , i dislike this saga :W
let`s start with the positive things about rmz
1-insane difficulty, it make a long game addictive enough for me ... and that`s good
2.-good gameplay, good control and nice graphics...for the most part.
now the things i don`t like
1-humans and reploids
at the beggining of z1, was cool , was epic, explosion people getting wasted...or it was people? no they were reploids.....bleeding robots? really? -u-' , almost forgot....mettaur sprites ripped directly from megaman 7
2- regular enemies: gay looking copys of x, metal balls, snow throwing shrimps, and the worst of allll...they bleed, are they serious??? B(
3-design, i mean, there is no diference between characters, all use the same stupid clothes, just colors, damn with toru nakayama imagination . bVd
at least the other designer has more imagination XD
4-omega zero a.k.a the great insult, when i first played mmz3, i was like O.O omg we gonna see zero original body, but no, it was just the same sprite with a purple lighblade..... -AC
pd. sorry if you get angry with this post.. y just talking aobut my opinion o//////o
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You're entitled to your opinion but you still use to many periods.
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I agree, as well as the lack of sentence structure & grammar.
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It's OK, RPM will get used to it. Have fun in RPM. ;3
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Good evening guys and girls of RPM!
We all love Rockman, of course. As I mentioned in my first post, he was my childhood hero, until... the total disappointment, the total chaos, the game that made the series sink into utter darkness...
The Zero series >_<
Now before you start trolling me, I know many people love the Zero series, but I don't.
Let's start with the positive things about RMZ
- insane difficulty, it kept me interested enough throughout the entire long game... so that's good.
- good gameplay, good control and nice graphics... for the most part.
Now the prime event......why I don't like RMZ :P
First of:
humans and reploids
The Z1 intro was cool, epic even; explosions, people getting wasted... or was it people? No, they were reploids... that bled? I mean, bleeding robots? -u-'
Oh, almost forgot... mettaur sprites ripped directly from Megaman 7
Secondly,
The enemies: gay looking copies of X, balls of steel, snow-throwing shrimps... The worst of it all is that they bleed, I mean are they serious??? B(
number 3....!!!!
to be continued...
there fixed for grammar nazis
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Aaah! Much better!
Thank you Align!
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With those crappy reasons I don't even want to know what´s your number 3 supposed to be.
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With those crappy reasons I don't even want to know what´s your number 3 supposed to be.
Isn't that largely the point of this kind of trolling?
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mettaur sprites ripped directly from megaman 7
That is the most hilarious thing I've ever seen.
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Isn't that largely the point of this kind of trolling?
Yeah, but that "to be continued" at the end is overkill. The joke is over, if he actually keeps posting lame reasons he really sucks at trolling.
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-bleeding robots-
-they bleed-
So you don't like bleeding robots... If it makes you feel better, you can think its oil. Red oil.
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Does anyone on this forum actually know what trolling means?
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So you don't like bleeding robots... If it makes you feel better, you can think its oil. Red oil.
Or hydraulic fluid, which is actually red.
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The [tornado fang], son?
I am disappoint.
I come into this thread expecting at least some real trolling, and I get... something which kinda seems like an attempt at trolling, but ultimately looks like baby's first troll, which is to say doesn't leave a good impression of the "troll" in question.
I give it 2/10, and only for the effort. Keep on rolling, keep on trolling kid. One day... one DAY!
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So you don't like bleeding robots... If it makes you feel better, you can think its oil. Red oil.
Or more specifically, lithium grease. I think.
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Or more specifically, lithium grease. I think.
Which is a bright red (unlike blood) and maintains somewhat of a definitive form in really high temperatures. No dice.
gay looking copys of x
1) They are called "Pantheon"
2) They most certainly do not look gay, although whether or not they are gay is another matter entirely, and it would be nice if they were because I think they make such nice robo-yaoi bait.
Also, I should bring up that original Zero looks ass stupid because of huge cat eyes, huge feet, and glass tits.
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Which is a bright red (unlike blood) and maintains somewhat of a definitive form in really high temperatures. No dice.
1) They are called "Pantheon"
2) They most certainly do not look gay, although whether or not they are gay is another matter entirely, and it would be nice if they were because I think they make such nice robo-yaoi bait.
Also, I should bring up that original Zero looks ass stupid because of huge cat eyes, huge feet, and glass tits.
That's like saying you hate the predecessor of the car, the wheel. Without the wheel the car wouldn't have been made. Without the original Zero, Megaman Zero wouldn't have been thought of. They would've kept him killed back in X1. Back when he covered his boob-lights up. xD
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That's like saying you hate the predecessor of the car, the wheel. Without the wheel the car wouldn't have been made. Without the original Zero, Megaman Zero wouldn't have been thought of. They would've kept him killed back in X1. Back when he covered his boob-lights up. xD
What's the point here, exactly? If I hate Zero, this would make sense, but I'm speaking strictly from an aesthetic standpoint (and aural, if you count the terribad voice acting for Zero in X4 and thereabouts).
I mean, if you're trying to say that I have to like the original Zero to like the one from the newer series, then I respectfully disagree.
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Totally thought you didn't like Zero there. 8D
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Robots have been bleeding since X1.
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Totally thought you didn't like Zero there. 8D
8D
not zero, just the game, zero is bad-ass
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I come into this thread expecting at least some real trolling...
...am I the only one here who thought, before reading the thread, that "trolling" in the title was a joke referring to how people go bat crap crazy when somebody expresses their honest non-fangasming opinion about popular games?
No? Alright, carry on.
Also, I should bring up that original Zero looks ass stupid because of huge cat eyes, huge feet, and glass tits.
Looks a hell of a lot better than puppy eyes in a thong waving a pistol around, if you ask me. Plus I kinda resent the fact that new non-evil Zeros forgot all manners of Earth Crush and double charging, and are severely handicapped in the Learning System department.
But hey, at least we got Z3's Throw Blade.
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...am I the only one here who thought, before reading the thread, that "trolling" in the title was a joke referring to how people go bat crap crazy when somebody expresses their honest non-fangasming opinion about popular games?
No? Alright, carry on.
Looks a hell of a lot better than puppy eyes in a thong waving a pistol around, if you ask me. Plus I kinda resent the fact that new non-evil Zeros forgot all manners of Earth Crush and double charging, and are severely handicapped in the Learning System department.
But hey, at least we got Z3's Throw Blade.
i know this is gonna be necro-posting... but at least hypershell was mature enough to get my point... funny only now i read his reply, after see how my opinion made everyone mad at me i decided to leave the page for a while... i mean if i don`t like a megaman game and i have problems with my english that mean i everyone hate me? thanks for the welcome (i mean no offense anyway) -u-'
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Zero's cool, and so is his series, but there are things about it that keep me from loving it:
-Boring level designs
-Mellow-ish/okay soundtrack
-Your enemy is X clones
-A little too much RPG complexity
-Unengaging presentation of a decent story/cast of characters
-Too many weapon options
MMZ1 I find the least (re)playable, but it's not a bad game. Just lacks polish. Give it some new instruments, streamline the plot n' dialogue a bit, and I'll probably enjoy it better. Not as much as playing an X game, but wrong time and place for that. I'd also be interested in a "less is more" approach to the weapons that emphasizes what makes the Zero games--and Zero himself--special: melee combat. I think giving the character a tighter, more unified playstyle would've given the series greater distinction from its predecessor, because instead of designing to accommodate both melee and ranged combat, the focus would squarely be on melee. On that note, it would help the whole experience to fix the awkward R + B secondary weapon swap gimmick by just having the shoulder button swap your weapon with a press, instead of the press-and-hold mode that makes dashing and slashing around feel weird. It's not a steep learning curve, but removing that makes for a more ergonomically comfortable experience.
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Too many weapon options?
There are 4, one changes each game and in 4 they drop Shield Boomerang finally and just give you 3.
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On that note, it would help the whole experience to fix the awkward R + B secondary weapon swap gimmick by just having the shoulder button swap your weapon with a press, instead of the press-and-hold mode that makes dashing and slashing around feel weird. It's not a steep learning curve, but removing that makes for a more ergonomically comfortable experience.
You can set your sub-weapon control preferences at any time, and one of those options is exactly what you described. There's also an option to simply use your sub-weapon with R, which allows you to charge both melee AND your gun at the same time.
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Yeah, I always used that one, the others seemed very awkward.
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Press Start.
Use L and R to cycle the menus.
Change "Attack Mode"
Use Type B to attack by secondary with a single button press. Use Type C to swap secondary and primary with a single button press. Type A is just cumbersome by comparison.
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Hot juicy mancakes! That makes a world of difference.
It feels so much better now. At least the Saber as B and Buster as R; still have to get used to dual-wielding with the chain rod. Hey, it might be cool to pretend like I'm a chain rod knight with a swirling buckler of power on the other arm. I'm thinking that'll last no longer than a level or a half, but sounds cool anyways.
I'll say this after playing some Zero 1/Zero 2 back to back: any of the sequels are better. Level design's not as boring, the music's more lively, and the presentation is polished. As for the weapon options, what I wanted to get at was that the Zero games probably would've been better suited without the buster, at the very least. And the charging along with it. They're comfortable throwbacks to the Classic-X style of gameplay, but I think Zero's better suited to melee weapons and technique development as a gameplay style. Meanwhile, X is better suited to shooting, charging stuff, and copying weapons as a gameplay style. While it is still satisfying to use the Buster as Zero, and it does add a good tactical complement to his melee combat, I'd rather the games X and Zero star in focus on designing around their distinct gameplay styles rather than mixing them together in either one. Using the saber as X in X3 is powerful but awkward compared to just sticking with the buster, and while I don't think X6 is the best example of combining buster and saber combat (for either X or Zero), it doesn't help the case that they should go together either.
Just some thoughts, though. The Buster fits well with the rest of Zero's arsenal and is a very practical weapon. Doing without it probably wouldn't have made a difference in how the games were designed, and would have only taken away rather than added.
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I use R to dash