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Title: Building my own Custom Desktop Gaming Computer
Post by: VirusChris on July 29, 2010, 07:29:57 PM
Hey there! Seeing as how much the computer world keeps on growing I've noticed how sluggish and out-of-date my old computer is, so that's why I' going to get a new computer but this time I'm building one! Problem is that I don't know where to start, so I did a little research on finding good components to best a great Gaming Desktop as I like to play online games and have great performance overall for my computer needs. I like to get your opinions, advice, and recommendations on what I should get.


So this what I got so far:


My Custom Computer Parts - Basic Outline

*Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit ~ $???*

*Computer Case:Athenatech A605BR.450 Black / Red Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 430W Power Supply ~ $59.99 (+ $20.97 for S&H)

*Power Supply: Power Supply included with Computer Case

*Motherboard: ASUS P7P55D-E LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard  ~ $149.99 (Original Price: $159.99)

*Processor (CPU): AMD Phenom II X6 1055T Thuban 2.8GHz 6 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDT55TFBGRBOX ~ $199.99 (Original Price: $209.99)

*RAM: G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-4GBPQ  ~ $89.99

*Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Blue (500GB) ~ $55.99

*CD-ROM: Samsung TS-H192 52x CD-ROM IDE Drive (Black) ~ $4.99

*DVD-ROM: Memorex 32023223 20x DVD±RW DL USB 2.0 External Drive w/LightScribe & Software (Black/Silver) ~ $29.99

*Graphics Card: SAPPHIRE 100283L Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card ~ $154.99

*Ethernet Card: ??? ~ $???
Look for a Motherboard with it built-in

*Sound Card: Asus Sonar HDAV ~ $???
Look for a Motherboard with it built-in
^Unsure to get

*Modem: DSL (Already have a modem) ~ $0

*Monitor: ASUS VW193DR Black 19" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 50000 :1 (ASCR)  ~ $119.99 (+8.99 for S&H)

*Keyboard & Mouse: Logitech Keyboard & LX8 Laser Mouse ~ $???


As you can see I still need a little help in some areas, like getting the right Power Supply for my computer. Also I make $130+ a week from my part-time job, but I have to put in $50 into the car for gas as I commute between home and college and I need to add in some money into my Savings Account so I plan to add in $30 a week so that leaves the rest $50+ to go into my Checking Account for spending. So it's going to take a few months until I get my desired Desktop Gaming Computer.


EDIT: OK, I've updated my list as I've searched around some more to find cheaper parts to use to build my own computer. I'm still need help in some areas. What do you guys recommended for a Monitor, Motherboard, Power Supply, and Ethernet Card & Sound Card? Hopefully I can get a Motherboard with both Ethernet and Sound Cards built-in already.

What do you guys suggest?

EDIT EDIT: Updated again.


Build 1 Current Price: $764.87
Build 2 Current Price: $890.85 (this is the one with Athenatech A605BR.450 Black / Red Steel ATX selected)


Just got to figure out the Sound and Ethernet Cards and I'm done! I wished it wasn't so much to get the parts from Neweggs.com!
Title: Re: Building my own Custom Desktop Gaming Computer
Post by: Gaia on July 29, 2010, 10:59:37 PM
If you are gonna attempt to try to build your computer, make sure you have enough fans for it. You don't want the computer to overheat, do you? I recommend Antec TriCool Case fan (http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=computer+fans&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=7602132452966284417&ei=WOtRTLmdHsT_lgeO1NCmBQ&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CEAQ8wIwAg#) from staples, it also has a fair price too, no computer these days are without a cooling fan.
Title: Re: Building my own Custom Desktop Gaming Computer
Post by: ViperAcidZX on July 30, 2010, 12:22:54 AM
Well from what I hear at DoujinStyle for playing Japanese doujin soft like Vanguard Princess or Rosenkreuzstilette, Windows 7 Home Premium Edition is not the way to go because Windows 7 Home Premium lacks a "Virtual XP" mode, which is basically a virtual version of Windows XP, that's needed to play doujin games because most of these games were made for Windows XP until now, not Vista or 7.

(click to show/hide)

But this is just for doujin games, not for PC games. So this maybe just useless information to you.
Title: Re: Building my own Custom Desktop Gaming Computer
Post by: Rad Lionheart on July 30, 2010, 12:27:43 AM
Your motherboard supports Core i7 / i5 / i3
But you've listed an AMD.

Pick out a different Mobo, stick with ASUS but make sure it's got an AM3 socket type for CPU and supports the Phenom II X6.
Make sure it supports your RAM and has at least one PCI-e 2.0 X16 slot for your video card too.

It'll most likely have onboard sound too, like RealTek or something.
Same goes for Ethernet, since you're not gonna pick out a cheap $50 board that has limited to nothing on it anyway.

Besides that, unless you're getting into serious audio production, you won't need a sound card, any onboard will do just fine.

EDIT: I also just noticed the PSU with the case, it's only 430W, that's pretty low these days.
I mean, my current crappy PC has 465W in it right now and it's still pretty low.
You might wanna try going for something around 550W at least, just to be on the safe side of things.
Title: Re: Building my own Custom Desktop Gaming Computer
Post by: Sub Tank on July 30, 2010, 02:09:13 AM
If your computer isn't hovering, you don't have enough fans.
Title: Re: Building my own Custom Desktop Gaming Computer
Post by: VirusChris on July 30, 2010, 04:20:13 AM
OK, so how about this build?


My Custom Desktop Gaming Computer - Components

*Operating System: Windows 7 Premium 64-bit*

*Computer Case: RAIDMAX Tornado ATX-238WR Black / Red SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case ~ $39.99 (+$14.99 for S&H)

*Power Supply: Pixxo PW-600EQE 600W Power Supply W/ 110V US Type Power Cord ~ $24.99 (+ $5.99 for S&H)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817325002&cm_re=600W_Power_Supply-_-17-325-002-_-Product

*Motherboard: ASUS M4A88TD-M/USB3 AM3 AMD 880G HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard   ~ $104.99 (+7$.56 for S&H)

*Processor (CPU): AMD Phenom II X6 1055T Thuban 2.8GHz 6 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDT55TFBGRBOX ~ $199.99 (Original Price: $209.99)

*RAM: G.Skill 4GB RAM ~ $89.99

*Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Blue (500GB) ~ $55.99

*CD-ROM: Should I use my old CD-ROM from my Dell computer or get a new one with CD/DVD burners? Or forget about it?

*DVD-ROM: Should I use my old DVD-ROM from my Dell computer or get a new one with CD/DVD burners? Or forget about it?

*Graphics Card: SAPPHIRE 100283L Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card ~ $154.99

*Monitor: SCEPTRE X246W-1080p Black 23.6" 2 ms (GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 DCR(40000:1) 1000:1  ~ $194.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824112018&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Monitors+-+LCD+Flat+Panel-_-Sceptre-_-24112018

*Cooling Fan: Antec TriCool Case fan ~ $7 (just one or more?)


I hate spending so much on a single monitor for good image qualities! Is there a much cheaper one? I like to spend much less, but still get great performance.

In the future I'll think about upgrading my components.
Title: Re: Building my own Custom Desktop Gaming Computer
Post by: Gaia on July 30, 2010, 05:28:42 AM
Well from what I hear at DoujinStyle for playing Japanese doujin soft like Vanguard Princess or Rosenkreuzstilette, Windows 7 Home Premium Edition is not the way to go because Windows 7 Home Premium lacks a "Virtual XP" mode, which is basically a virtual version of Windows XP, that's needed to play doujin games because most of these games were made for Windows XP until now, not Vista or 7.

(click to show/hide)

But this is just for doujin games, not for PC games. So this maybe just useless information to you.

Marisa to Alice, Cave Story, AND a few others runs pretty fine on this Vista-Built laptop. And *gasp* all are DOUJINS! Bleh. If you have a computer store near you, I suggest you go to the store, and make sure to bring a sheet of paper to write a list with.
Title: Re: Building my own Custom Desktop Gaming Computer
Post by: Rad Lionheart on July 30, 2010, 05:43:44 AM
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*CD-ROM: Should I use my old CD-ROM from my Dell computer or get a new one with CD/DVD burners? Or forget about it?

*DVD-ROM: Should I use my old DVD-ROM from my Dell computer or get a new one with CD/DVD burners? Or forget about it?
If it's an older dell, it won't work.
Dell kinda made it impossible to upgrade a lot of components without buying directly from them.
So swapping their parts over to other computers was also no go.

So yeah, just get a lite-on CD/DVD drive.
Just one that does the job of both, about $25 maybe.

As for your Motherboard choice, it's a Micro ATX.
i.e. it's tiny.
And the case you picked out is a Mid-tower, so you could find a better mobo that fits if you wanted.
Title: Re: Building my own Custom Desktop Gaming Computer
Post by: VirusChris on July 30, 2010, 05:55:36 AM
This is my current list:


My Custom Desktop Gaming Computer - Components

*Computer Case: RAIDMAX Tornado ATX-238WR Black / Red SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case ~ $39.99 (+$14.99 for S&H)

*Power Supply: COOLMAX V-600 600W ATX12V Power Supply  ~ $44.99 (+ $1.99 for S&H)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817325002&cm_re=600W_Power_Supply-_-17-325-002-_-Product

*Motherboard: ASUS M4A88TD-M/USB3 AM3 AMD 880G HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard   ~ $104.99 (+$7.56 for S&H)

*Processor (CPU): AMD Phenom II X6 1055T Thuban 2.8GHz 6 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDT55TFBGRBOX ~ $199.99 (Original Price: $209.99)

*RAM: G.Skill 4GB RAM ~ $89.99

*Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Blue (500GB) ~ $55.99

*Graphics Card: SAPPHIRE 100283L Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card ~ $154.99

*Monitor: SCEPTRE X246W-1080p Black 23.6" 2 ms (GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 DCR(40000:1) 1000:1  ~ $194.99

Total Price: $910.46



Are these compatible with each other? Also what's wrong with the Motherboard and Case I picked? I'm looking for components to build a Gaming PC here. What does "mobo" mean? I've read it a few times but I'm not sure on the meaning of it.

Posted on: July 30, 2010, 04:51:15 AM
Also what kind of DVD-RW Drive should I get? I just need one to burn CD's to make some mix CD's and to copy videos to another CD (my mom does this to share with her friends).
Title: Re: Building my own Custom Desktop Gaming Computer
Post by: Rad Lionheart on July 30, 2010, 06:02:46 AM
Mobo is the short word for Motherboard.

And think of it this way, your case is bigger than your mobo, it'd be better to get a regular ATX form Mobo to fix a Mid-tower case.
I think you could still fit the Micro-ATX board in the Mid-tower case, but you're also limiting yourself if you want a gaming PC.

But you are on the right track.

Also, is your RAM DDR3?
Title: Re: Building my own Custom Desktop Gaming Computer
Post by: VirusChris on July 30, 2010, 06:20:54 AM
Oh, I see, but I like to get a Mobo that's close to 3GHz as possible. I guess I'll look for a different, cheaper, Computer Case then. How do I tell if the Mobo will fit or not into a Case?

The RAM is DDR2... is it important to get DDR3? Right now I like to get a cheap Gaming PC before upgrading to better parts in the future. My current Dell Dimension 5100 Desktop Computer is a 2004 model, which is old and sluggish (especially when booting up).
Title: Re: Building my own Custom Desktop Gaming Computer
Post by: Rad Lionheart on July 30, 2010, 06:23:03 AM
ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 AM3 AMD 890GX HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard  (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131631R&cm_re=asus_am3_motherboard-_-13-131-631R-_-Product)
AMD Phenom II X6 1055T Thuban 2.8GHz 6 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor  (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103851&cm_re=Phenom_II_x6-_-19-103-851-_-Product)
RAIDMAX Tornado ATX-238WR Black / Red SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811156226&Tpk=RAIDMAX%20Tornado%20ATX-238WR%20Black%20%2f%20Red%20SECC%20Steel%20A)
CORSAIR CMPSU-550VX 550W ATX12V V2.2 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply  (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139004&Tpk=Corsair%20PSU)
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL8D-4GBRM  (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231278&cm_re=Ripjaw_RAM-_-20-231-278-_-Product)
Western Digital Caviar Black WD5001AALS 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive  (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136320&cm_re=western_digital_hdd_500gb-_-22-136-320-_-Product)
MSI R5770 Hawk Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card  (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127490&cm_re=HD_radeon_5770-_-14-127-490-_-Product)
ASUS VW246H Glossy Black 24" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 ASCR 20000:1 (1000:1) Built-in Speakers  (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236049&cm_re=asus_24%22_hdmi_monitor_2ms-_-24-236-049-_-Product)
LITE-ON Black 18X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM DVD-ROM Drive Model IHDP11808  (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106344&cm_re=Lite-on-_-27-106-344-_-Product)

Logitech Performance Mouse MX  (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104321&cm_re=performance_MX-_-26-104-321-_-Product)
Logitech G15 2-Tone 104 Normal Keys USB Wired Standard Gaming Keyboard  (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823126034&cm_re=Logitech_keyboard-_-23-126-034-_-Product)

Subtotal:     $1,176.89 (The mouse and keyboard can be removed, or replaced with cheaper models though.)
Just some suggestions for a build, I am new to this stuff about custom building, but I think I've got enough information to give a good suggestion.
The mouse/keyboard are just suggestions, things I would pick out if I had the money for 'em.
You can get whatever you want though.


Posted on: July 29, 2010, 09:21:26 PM
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The RAM is DDR2... is it important to get DDR3?
Yes, your motherboard supports DDR3 and it's much better than DDR2 at this point, it's pretty much the standard pick for desktop memory.
Title: Re: Building my own Custom Desktop Gaming Computer
Post by: VirusChris on July 30, 2010, 06:32:43 AM
Good grief! I have to spend more money now! Well better than paying for an Alienware Computer. >_>

This is what I jotted down so far:

*Computer Case: RAIDMAX Tornado ATX-238WR Black / Red SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case ~ $39.99 (+$14.99 for S&H)

*Power Supply: COOLMAX V-600 600W ATX12V Power Supply  ~ $44.99 (+ $1.99 for S&H)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817325002&cm_re=600W_Power_Supply-_-17-325-002-_-Product

*Motherboard: ASUS M4A88TD-M/USB3 AM3 AMD 880G HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard   ~ $104.99 (+$7.56 for S&H)

*Processor (CPU): AMD Phenom II X6 1055T Thuban 2.8GHz 6 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDT55TFBGRBOX ~ $199.99 (Original Price: $209.99)

*RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL8D-4GBRM  ~ $99.99

*Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black WD5001AALS 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive  ~ $69.99

*DVD-ROM: LITE-ON Black 18X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM DVD-ROM Drive Model IHDP11808 ~ $21.99 (+$7.56 S&H)

*Graphics Card: SAPPHIRE 100283L Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card ~ $154.99

*Monitor: SCEPTRE X246W-1080p Black 23.6" 2 ms (GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 DCR(40000:1) 1000:1  ~ $194.99


Still have to look at a few things, but I wanted to get a cheap simple Gaming PC until I have enough money later on to upgrade! For goodness sake.


Also this "ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 AM3 AMD 890GX HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard" comes with Video/Graphic built-in, but will it be an issue when I have the "SAPPHIRE 100283L Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card"?


I think I'll go with the Logitech LX8 Laser Mouse, if that's cheaper, and maybe I'll get that Keyboard.
Title: Re: Building my own Custom Desktop Gaming Computer
Post by: Rad Lionheart on July 30, 2010, 06:40:00 AM
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Also this "ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 AM3 AMD 890GX HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard" comes with Video/Graphic built-in, but will it be an issue when I have the "SAPPHIRE 100283L Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card"?
No, as soon as you place a video card in, the onboard is disabled until you enable it again.
Say if your video card burns out, you can enable the onboard in the BIOS screen.

Quote
Still have to look at a few things, but I wanted to get a cheap simple Gaming PC until I have enough money later on to upgrade! For goodness sake.
Like I said, if you removed the mouse/keyboard I listed, it would cheapen quite a bit, since I did pick out some uber expensive pieces.
You could easily get away with a $20 laser mouse, around 800DPI would do well. (your choice for wired or wireless)
And a simple keyboard for $10 will do just as fine too, I'm using a cheap keyboard right now, it's fine.

The monitor however, is something you'd want to consider, it's a pretty good monitor and well worth it's price.

I also picked out a better HD 5770, the MSI one has dual fans to keep it a lot cooler than the Sapphire one you picked out for your list.
Title: Re: Building my own Custom Desktop Gaming Computer
Post by: VirusChris on July 30, 2010, 07:06:20 AM
My Custom Desktop Gaming Computer - Components

*Computer Case: RAIDMAX Tornado ATX-238WR Black / Red SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case ~ $39.99 (+$14.99 for S&H)

*Power Supply: COOLMAX V-600 600W ATX12V Power Supply ~ $44.99 (+ $1.99 for S&H)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817325002&cm_re=600W_Power_Supply-_-17-325-002-_-Product

*Motherboard: ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 AM3 AMD 890GX HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard ~ $107.99 (+$7.87 for S&H)

*Processor (CPU): AMD Phenom II X6 1055T Thuban 2.8GHz 6 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDT55TFBGRBOX ~ $199.99 (Original Price: $209.99)

*RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL8D-4GBRM  ~ $99.99

*Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black WD5001AALS 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive  ~ $69.99

*DVD-ROM: LITE-ON Black 18X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM DVD-ROM Drive Model IHDP11808 ~ $21.99 (+$7.56 S&H)

*Graphics Card: MSI R5770 Hawk Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card  ~ $179.99 (+$7.56 S&H)

*Monitor: SCEPTRE X246W-1080p Black 23.6" 2 ms (GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 DCR(40000:1) 1000:1  ~ $194.99


Total Price: $999.88



Alright, is this good? Everything in order? If so then which part which I get first when I get enough money of it? Currently I have $21.17 and I'm going to deposit $50 so I'll have $71.17 plus if I have money leftover from giving the car so gas (plus I have some cans to recycle) so I'll make a little extra to work on getting all of my components.

Hopefully I'll work on Saturdays again (which I hate) so I have make about $140 ~ 150 a week.
Title: Re: Building my own Custom Desktop Gaming Computer
Post by: Rad Lionheart on July 30, 2010, 07:27:33 AM
Your list looks much better now, I'd say it would work out pretty well.
Save up and buy everything all at once, and when you do have enough for it all, make a quick look over Newegg for their deals/combos, hopefully something might be good at the time of purchase, and if you need help determining just that, I'll be here.
Title: Re: Building my own Custom Desktop Gaming Computer
Post by: VirusChris on July 30, 2010, 02:11:48 PM
Thanks, looks pretty good! But it won't be until December/January that I'll be able to afford all of the parts needed to build my own Computer!


So it's better to just buy everything at once instead of buying each part one by one over time?
Title: Re: Building my own Custom Desktop Gaming Computer
Post by: Karai on July 30, 2010, 05:12:16 PM
By the time you buy them, prices will probably go down. You'll either pay less or buy something even better for the same $$$. So, yeah, wait for everything.
Title: Re: Building my own Custom Desktop Gaming Computer
Post by: Rad Lionheart on July 30, 2010, 08:00:31 PM
Yeah, just keep an eye on things, make notes etc.
And then when it's close to the time to spend all your hard earned cash, take a look at what you were planning, on take a look at what else is available, you might want to switch stuff out by then.
Title: Re: Building my own Custom Desktop Gaming Computer
Post by: VirusChris on July 30, 2010, 11:56:58 PM
Well before my mom went to work I gave her a list of my components I want for my computer to show to her IT co-worker to look over the parts I picked out for my computer and to offer suggestions and such. My mom explains he's an expert with all the technical stuff, though I never ask what department he's in, but he make some notes on my list (and commenting that I did research right and found very good parts). He mention to go to TigerDirect.com to look for the same parts, but cheaper!

Here's my new list:


My Custom Desktop Gaming Computer - Components

*Computer Case: RAIDMAX Tornado ATX-238WR Black / Red SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case ~ $39.99 (+$14.99 for S&H)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811156226


*Power Supply: Coolmax VL-600B Power Supply ~ $24.99
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5250579&CatId=1483


*Motherboard: ASUS M4A88TD-M Motherboard - AMD 880GX, Socket AM3, ATX, DDR3, RAID, SATA 6.0GB/s~ $99.99
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6077271&CatId=5539


*Processor (CPU): AMD Phenom II X6 1055T Thuban 2.8GHz 6 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDT55TFBGRBOX ~ $199.99
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6052731&CatId=4432


*RAM: Corsair PC12800 RAM - 4GB, DDR3, 1600MHz, Core i5, Dual Channel, Class 9  ~ $89.99
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5082127&CatId=3361


*Hard Drive: Western Digital WD1002FAEX Caviar Black Hard Drive - 1TB, 7200RPM, 64MB, SATA 6Gbs ~ $89.99
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=6076939&sku=TSD-1000FAEX&srkey=#WD1002FAEX


*DVD-ROM: Samsung TS-H662A DVDRW Drive ~ $25.99
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5290804&CatId=482


*Graphics Card: Diamond 5770PE51GXOC Radeon HD 5770 OC Video Card ~ $149.99
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6435907&CatId=3669


*Monitor: Viewsonic VX2250wm-LED 22" Widescreen LED Monitor  ~ $169.99
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6052506&Sku=V18-2238


Total Price: $905.90


Bumped it down $90, at least not as expensive as before! Couldn't really find the same parts or the same case (my god the computer cases are expensive on that site). But I picked out some parts that would do the job right. I haven't added in the S&H cost for the components yet, except for the case. Also he recommended to get "Thermal Conductive Adhesive qt oz of (can't read the last three words he wrote) fluid to draw heat away".


What do you guys think?
Title: Re: Building my own Custom Desktop Gaming Computer
Post by: Rad Lionheart on July 31, 2010, 03:30:50 AM
I'd say to stick with Newegg, TigerDirect is like an alternative if Newegg were to go belly up.
Title: Re: Building my own Custom Desktop Gaming Computer
Post by: VirusChris on July 31, 2010, 04:54:07 AM
But TigerDirect offers cheaper parts, but I might stick with some of my old choices. I'm thinking of getting the DVD-RW Drive from TigerDirect as it's cheaper than the one I was getting plus it since to be a limited-time offer thing.



I rather spend $100 less than what I'm trying to get. I can go back and upgrade my computer but getting new parts can changing them, no?


EDIT: Do you know if there's combo packs with some of components I picked out from my list before my newest one?

Posted on: July 31, 2010, 04:36:59
Hey what about this Combo pack?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.432236


It's $300 less then what I was going to spend and I can get it early to! I can upgrade from with the parts I want later, right?
Title: Re: Building my own Custom Desktop Gaming Computer
Post by: Rad Lionheart on July 31, 2010, 05:07:07 PM
Doesn't seem bad, except the Seagate HDD.
You could probably start with that starter kit and get everything else to finish it off.
Title: Re: Building my own Custom Desktop Gaming Computer
Post by: VirusChris on August 13, 2010, 03:28:43 PM
... Looks like the Combo Pack deal is over. :'(


Oh well, but to my original plan.

By they way what Computer Case for a Gaming PC is good? I've seen these two:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147144


and this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119137&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=3463938&SID=


They seem good, though I wish there was a Red & Black version but beggars can't be choosers. Hmm... I have $420+ in my bank Account at the moment, so I need to make at least $600+ to make sure I get all the best parts for my Gaming PC. I guess I could wait until next year as I'll be working with my Grandfather again as his Tax Helper along with my job at Rainoni's, and my Grandfather pays me everyday in cash so add that with the money from work I'll be have move than enough by the time I'm working with my Grandfather.

Though I am tempted to buy that black slim Xbox 360. *o*
I'm digging the design and the 250GB HD is a plus too! But I already have the old white 360 but with 20GB HD
And the DSi XL looks great to my eyes, but with the 3DS I don't feel like buying it.

Also I can't put any money into my bank account this week due to a few various things, plus I'm planning on reserving a game too.
If I still add in $50 from here now with the money in my bank it will take me 11 weeks to get to $1000+ plus next College Semester I'll have two classes and hopefully only 2 -3 days of school a week meaning less money to put gas into the car and more money into my bank.


Sorry for the rambling.


Well I don't have to get the Gaming PC right now and I could take my time and maybe the prices will drop a tad bit.
Title: Re: Building my own Custom Desktop Gaming Computer
Post by: Rad Lionheart on August 14, 2010, 11:59:55 PM
A gaming PC, unless you're overclocking anything, doesn't need anything fancy for a case, as long as it's not getting it's ventilation blocked up.
You could, if you really wanted, go without a case and set everything up on a desk, out in the open.
But that would be troublesome, so don't.

Just remember when you buy the case, make sure it fits the motherboard, and everything else that's going in, cause it will be a pain in the ass, to end up getting a case that's too small.
Title: Re: Building my own Custom Desktop Gaming Computer
Post by: DjKlzonez on August 15, 2010, 12:05:28 AM
Get a Mac.

The end.
Title: Re: Building my own Custom Desktop Gaming Computer
Post by: Rad Lionheart on August 15, 2010, 12:26:21 AM
Thread over.
Title: Re: Building my own Custom Desktop Gaming Computer
Post by: VirusChris on August 17, 2010, 04:22:20 AM
Get a Mac.

The end.

Sorry, not a Mac person. ^_^



Any who...


My Custom Computer Build

MOTHERBOARD: ASUS M4A88TD-M Motherboard - AMD 880GX, Socket AM3, ATX, DDR3, RAID, SATA 6.0GB/s
Price: $99.99
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6077271&CatId=5539

PROCESSOR: AMD Phenom II X6 1055T Thuban 2.8GHz 6 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDT55TFBGRBOX
Price: $99.99
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6077271&CatId=5539

Later now for Upgrade
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Processor ~ $254.99
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6077909&CatId=4297


POWER SUPPLY: Corsair VX550W 550W ATX Power Supply - SLI-Ready, SATA-Ready, 80Plus
Price: $69.99
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3436149&CatId=1079

RAM: Corsair PC12800 RAM - 4GB, DDR3, 1600MHz, Core i5, Dual Channel, Class 9
Price: $89.99
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5082127&CatId=3361

HARD DRIVE: Western Digital WD1002FAEX Caviar Black Hard Drive - 1TB, 7200RPM, 64MB, SATA 6Gbs
Price: $84.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533&Tpk=Western%20Digital%20WD1002FAEX

VIDEO CARD: Diamond 5770PE51GXOC Radeon HD 5770 OC Video Card
Price: $149.99
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6435907&CatId=3669

COMPUTER CASE: RAIDMAX Tornado ATX-238WR Black / Red SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Price: $39.99 (+$14.99 for S&H)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811156226

OS: Windows 7 Preimum Home Edition
Price: $179.99 (+ $1.99 for S&H)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116716&cm_re=windows_7_premium_full-_-32-116-716-_-Product


TOTAL PRICE: $649.92 (not including the OS)
TOTAL PRICE w/ Windows 7: $831.90


Optional Parts

MONITOR: Viewsonic VX2250wm-LED 22" Widescreen LED Monitor
Price: $169.99
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6052506&Sku=V18-2238

DVD-ROM: Samsung TS-H662A DVDRW Drive
Price: $25.99
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5290804&CatId=482

KEYBOARD: Logitech Keyboard
Price: N/A

MOUSE: Logitech Laser Mouse
Price: N/A


Should take me 3 ~ 5 months getting everything, maybe less if I didn't have to put in $50 of gas into car per week. Originally I had to put in $40 for the car every two weeks.
Title: Re: Building my own Custom Desktop Gaming Computer
Post by: Rad Lionheart on August 17, 2010, 04:34:54 AM
That RAM is meant for Core i5 and i7 processors.
I'd suggest G.Skill Ripjaw series, DDR3 1333MHz (Better compatibility with the motherboard.)

And why do you have a Phenom II X4 + Motherboard combo listed?
The Phenom II X6 you have listed above it is superior in a lot of ways.
Just so you know, the X4 Deneb is meant for overclockers to take advantage of.
Title: Re: Building my own Custom Desktop Gaming Computer
Post by: VirusChris on August 17, 2010, 05:39:11 AM
Oops, made some mistakes with old notes in that list.


What about this RAM?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121419&cm_re=DDR3_1333MHz-_-13-121-419-_-Product

Is this a good one instead?


Or is this one a good one?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231279&cm_re=G.Skill_Ripjaw_DDR3-_-20-231-279-_-Product


Or should I go with this?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231274&cm_re=G.Skill_Ripjaw_DDR3-_-20-231-274-_-Product
Title: Re: Building my own Custom Desktop Gaming Computer
Post by: Rad Lionheart on August 17, 2010, 05:45:51 AM
I'd go with the 1333MHz one.
Title: Re: Building my own Custom Desktop Gaming Computer
Post by: VirusChris on March 27, 2013, 03:28:55 AM
I've been saving up my money over the years, spending some on a lot of new games, and so I decided to grab what I can because some of the computer parts I wanted to get have been discontinued so I purchased what I can...

I still need a...

- MOTHERBOARD
- PROCESSOR
- RAM
- VIDEO CARD



Now that the Motherboard is Out of Stock / Discontinued should I still go with the G.SKILL Ripjaws Series RAM? Dear lord it's been a while I forgot some of them!

This is what I purchased from my original final list:

POWER SUPPLY: CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply
HARD DRIVE: Seagate Barracuda ST2000DM001 2TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - Bare Drive

The original Hard Drive I wanted got Discontinued, which was this: Western Digital WD1002FAEX Caviar Black Hard Drive - 1TB, 7200RPM, 64MB, SATA 6Gbs (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533&Tpk=Western%20Digital%20WD1002FAEX)

So I hope the new one is a much better option.

COMPUTER CASE: RAIDMAX Tornado ATX-238WR Black / Red SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
OS: Windows 7 Preimum Home Edition

Costed me over $400 and I have just a little bit of what I originally had saved up so I need work a few more months to get the last bit of items off my list to build my Gaming PC.


Oh! For an optional parts for my computer would this monitor be a good choice:
Viewsonic VX2250wm-LED 22" Widescreen LED Monitor  (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6052506&Sku=V18-2238)

or this one:
SAMSUNG B150 Series S19B150N Black 18.5" 5ms GTG Widescreen LED Backlight LCD Monitor 200 cd/m2 DCR Mega Infinity (600:1) (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001541)

Just something to help with a better screen. Oh! And since I already have a USB Logitech Keyboard and an USB Gateway Mouse I don't have to worry about getting new ones for a while, right?

And for some DVD-ROM Drives for watching DVDs and playing games or install new software from CDs... what should I get? I would normally need two for the different CD types, right?

Posted on: March 26, 2013, 09:29:23 PM
OK I went with the G.SKILL Ripjaws Series with 1333MHz for my RAM.

All that's left is the Mother Board, Processor, and Video Card.

Here's my original suggestions:

*MOTHERBOARD: ASUS M4A88TD-M Motherboard - AMD 880GX, Socket AM3, ATX, DDR3, RAID, SATA 6.0GB/s (OUT OF STOCK)
*PROCESSOR: AMD Phenom II X6 1055T Thuban 2.8GHz 6 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDT55TFBGRBOX (OUT OF STOCK)
*VIDEO CARD: Diamond 5770PE51GXOC Radeon HD 5770 OC Video Card (OUT OF STOCK)

What are some good suggestion to replace those old suggestions with my build?

And for the Video Card should I wait a little more for the best Video Card around or a really good one that will last me a few years before I need to upgrade?
Any help would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Building my own Custom Desktop Gaming Computer
Post by: Archer on March 27, 2013, 03:40:52 AM
why don't you go to like, a forum the specializes in this kind of stuff

they'd probably be able to give you better advice
Title: Re: Building my own Custom Desktop Gaming Computer
Post by: Flame on March 27, 2013, 09:03:42 PM
Get a Mac.

The end.
>Gaming PC
>Mac

pick one

Quote
why don't you go to like, a forum the specializes in this kind of stuff

they'd probably be able to give you better advice

I recommend the EggXpert Forums that Newegg has. I got some advice over there when I built mine.
http://www.eggxpert.com
Title: Re: Building my own Custom Desktop Gaming Computer
Post by: Archer on March 28, 2013, 04:01:57 AM
>Gaming PC
>Mac

pick one

>replying to a post from 2010 made by a guy who hasn't been on since october last year

flame pls
Title: Re: Building my own Custom Desktop Gaming Computer
Post by: ViperAcidZX on March 28, 2013, 04:08:19 AM
>Gaming PC
>Mac

pick one

Yeah, I doubt Mac has a library of games as extensive as Windows (especially from indie and doujin games), unless Wine helps.
Title: Re: Building my own Custom Desktop Gaming Computer
Post by: Flame on March 29, 2013, 08:06:20 AM
>replying to a post from 2010 made by a guy who hasn't been on since october last year

flame pls
Well will you look at that.

Didn't notice the post date.

Point still stands though.
Title: Re: Building my own Custom Desktop Gaming Computer
Post by: VirusChris on May 15, 2013, 10:15:55 PM
OK, I finally have all of the Computer parts to build my Gaming PC. Here are what I've gotten:

COMPUTER CASE
RAIDMAX Tornado ATX-238WR Black / Red SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

MOTHERBOARD
MSI ZH77A-G43 LGA 1155 Intel H77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS

VIDEO CARD
SAPPHIRE 100355-1GOCL Radeon HD 7850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card OC Version

POWER SUPPLY
CORSAIR TX Series CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply

PROCESSOR
Intel Core i3-3225 Ivy Bridge 3.3GHz LGA 1155 55W Dual-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I33225

RAM
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Desktop Memory Model F3-14900CL9D-8GBXL

HARD DRIVE
Seagate Barracuda ST2000DM001 2TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium


This is what I've gotten now the problem is finding a good and proper "How to Build a Gaming PC" video tutorial as the ones I've found go on for an hour and have sometimes useless talk... I just want to know how to build a Gaming PC, that's all... no little fun facts about computer.

What tutorial video do you guys recommend?


EDIT: OK I find a good video to help me, though with a few hassles to overcome. I feel like this Case isn't well suited for where to put the Hard Drive but I managed.

However I realize I need a Optical CD/DVD Drive to be able to install my OS and my PC games I had planned for my Gaming PC and that is one more computer part I really need to get.

What do you guys recommend me to get with this computer build?


EDIT EDIT: Nevermind I found a good one and it's short and straight to the point!

However I have a new problem now!

I need some DVD Burner/Drives to be put into my computer to use CDs and DVDs, and sadly it seems like my old DVD Drives from my old Dell Dimension 5100 isn't compatible with the Motherboard I've chosen for my PC as either don't see where to connect the wire from the Drives to the Motherboard or it doesn't exist on this build. My old Desktop PC is about 7 or so years old.

My Motherboard is
MSI ZH77A-G43 LGA 1155 Intel H77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS

Does anyone know which DVD Burners I should get for my Gaming Desktop PC?

Posted on: May 09, 2013, 01:27:38 AM
I really don't want to bother people by bumping this old thread, but I seriously need help here.

I finally got my Custom Gaming PC put together and got it to turn on which I'm happy about, but I have a slight problem... I'm not sure how setup my BIOS and install my OS onto my computer and I need some help.

I am using the MSI ZH77A-G43/Z77A-G43 Motherboard and has CLICK BIOS II for it and I have not idea what to do next.

Can someone explain to me what the next set of steps I need to do to finally get my new custom PC up and running for me to finally play my PC games on it?
Title: Re: Building my own Custom Desktop Gaming Computer
Post by: Quickman on May 18, 2013, 08:54:38 AM
There may be a tutorial online somewhere that would tell you how to do this.  I, personally, don't know how else to help, other than suggest looking elsewhere.  This forum really is not the place for these types of questions.