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Title: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: kosmos on January 15, 2010, 06:49:56 AM
(http://i46.tinypic.com/1zm2ukg.png)


A collection with all the Rockman Zero games will be released in Japan for the Nintendo DS on Aprill, 22 for 4190 yens.


Rockman Zero Collection Official Site. (http://www.capcom.co.jp/rockman/zero/index.html)
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection for Nintendo DS announced!
Post by: Police Girl on January 15, 2010, 06:52:24 AM
Will the ability to change Rockman Zero 3's Enemies to EXE Viruses be included? Will it be released in the US? Man, this makes up for Operate Shooting Star. They better not Remix the music, its good as it is.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection for Nintendo DS announced!
Post by: Protoman Blues on January 15, 2010, 06:53:30 AM
Oh that's great.  No, very nice Capcom.  A great move indeed.

On the other hand...

WHERE THE [tornado fang] IS MY MEGA MAN MANIA?
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection for Nintendo DS announced!
Post by: Flame on January 15, 2010, 06:55:06 AM
Wow. And Here I thought this would never actually happen.

Cool. I FINALLY get to play Z2 now. I wonder if it will feature any bonus goodies? I mean, if its NDS like ti says, then maybe it will just be No frills, but Id kill to have a remastered version with the remastered tracks music. I mean, the site's using it...
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection for Nintendo DS announced!
Post by: Jericho on January 15, 2010, 07:03:43 AM
Instantly [tornado fang]ing bought. 8)
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection for Nintendo DS announced!
Post by: Harruhy on January 15, 2010, 07:05:39 AM
Cool. I FINALLY get to play Z2 now.

What do you mean finally? You had every Zero game except Z2?
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: kosmos on January 15, 2010, 07:11:03 AM
OP updated, the site is up now, sadly with no info other that price and release date.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Flame on January 15, 2010, 07:18:10 AM
What do you mean finally? You had every Zero game except Z2?
Yeah.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Sapphire Knight on January 15, 2010, 07:24:48 AM
YAY!!! I now may actually get to play the Zero series!
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Emiri Landeel on January 15, 2010, 11:15:06 AM
HOLY SHITTTTTTT!!! My most favourite Rockman series!! ON A DS!?!

And I sold my DS already!!!!

FFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUU ;^;


Ah well, even I don't have DS. I will still buy it.
For the sake of Rockman Zero!
(Finally able to meet ya in your real form again, honey. Lovely Levi-tan :p)
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Zx on January 15, 2010, 11:38:30 AM
FFFFFFFFFFFFinally 8D

I mean, [tornado fang] yeah, I was waiting for something like this, I hope the add some extra stuff.

Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Sniper X on January 15, 2010, 11:41:45 AM
YAY!!! I now may actually get to play the Zero series!
Yes! What he said! 8)
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Acid on January 15, 2010, 11:48:36 AM
Yes! Insta-buy!

Hope this revives the love for the Z series a bit.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: VixyNyan on January 15, 2010, 12:04:40 PM
I knew it was gonna happen~! >U<

I'm glad that Capcom & Inti did this. x3

Day One Get~! </wii>
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection for Nintendo DS announced!
Post by: Dr. Wily II on January 15, 2010, 12:25:13 PM
This is great news indeed...
The Zero series can kick my ass again on the DS! XD

Though...
WHERE THE [tornado fang] IS MY MEGA MAN MANIA?
I agree with this man as well. XD
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: VixyNyan on January 15, 2010, 12:33:32 PM
Oh I think there might be some GBA cartridge connectivity somehow. It would be a neat way to unlock things. ^^

You can connect the e-Reader to the GBA slot, and unlock things that way too. x3 </wii>
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Emiri Landeel on January 15, 2010, 12:35:05 PM
^
^
That'll screwed a lot of ppl who own a DSi/DSi LL 8)
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: VixyNyan on January 15, 2010, 12:42:11 PM
Lucky me for buying all four Rockman Zero games on GBA already. It was fun live-streaming them.

This collection is super-cheap too. :3 </wii>
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Ninja Lou on January 15, 2010, 01:04:08 PM
Oh that's great.  No, very nice Capcom.  A great move indeed.

On the other hand...

WHERE THE [tornado fang] IS MY MEGA MAN MANIA?

At least you can finally play them now. Since I know the button layout will be better for you on the DS. If they don't tweak it to us the X and the Y button they are idiots

Posted on: January 15, 2010, 07:03:21 AM
Lucky me for buying all four Rockman Zero games on GBA already. It was fun live-streaming them.

This collection is super-cheap too. :3 </wii>
Please Vixy you will go and buy this version too, just like me.  owob

Gotta catch have em all...
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Blackhook on January 15, 2010, 01:14:57 PM
I feel happiness in my heart...at the same time I feel sadness in my heart (I don´t own a F**King DS)
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Emiri Landeel on January 15, 2010, 01:32:23 PM
I feel happiness in my heart...at the same time I feel sadness in my heart (I don´t own a F**King DS)
*shakehand*
We're in the same boat.... B(
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Irgendein on January 15, 2010, 01:32:44 PM
I'm definitely be downloading the rom buying this if it comes out in North America.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Blackhook on January 15, 2010, 01:38:19 PM
So will it end up as OSS or will they actually ADD something to the games (MMZ 3, ending, explanation, NOW)
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Align on January 15, 2010, 03:02:29 PM
Yesssss...
I didn't find out about MMZ's existence until it was too late to buy more than Z4 in stores, and I literally HAD to emulate it -finally I will own them legally! And play them on the go. And hopefully with better controls than the GBA-on-DS AB->AB controls, which made my fingers hurt, crazy layout.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: STM on January 15, 2010, 03:16:02 PM
I already have all four on GBA, but if this has some nice bonuses and the control setup is closer to how ZX handles, I'll certainly consider it.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Solar on January 15, 2010, 03:25:23 PM
Awesome! Now I'll finally be able to own Z1 and Z2.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Ephidiel on January 15, 2010, 03:45:21 PM
instant buy even though i already own Z1-4 EU US and JPN versions
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Karai on January 15, 2010, 04:36:07 PM
YES!
Maybe we'll see animated cut scenes. Trailers were really nice.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Turian on January 15, 2010, 04:39:27 PM
I fukkin' love this series.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: HyperSonicEXE on January 15, 2010, 04:55:53 PM
Hey, I've wanted to go back and master 1, 2, and Inarabitta's stage, but to buy it again?

If it's got Z2's link battle where you can fight friends playing as another Zero, I'm in.

If not, it better have some other substantial gameplay addition to make up the value for a purchase.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: VirusChris on January 15, 2010, 05:15:10 PM
This is awesome! I have all the Zero games for the GBA already and I'll be adding this to my collection of MM games too!

Greatest day for a Zero fan to be alive. ;O;
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: RMX on January 15, 2010, 05:20:30 PM
I will [parasitic bomb] bricks if we get voiced dialogues like in ZX. Like really hard.
I hope they'll at least upscale the cutscene images and have better music quality than GBA's

Don't let me down on this one, Inti.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: STM on January 15, 2010, 06:00:22 PM
Guys, don't get yourselves too hyped up on bonuses and features that may but likely not happen in this. Just expect a straight collection of all the games with some minor resizing to suit the larger screen. Otherwise, you guys will hype yourselves up and then go into bitter mode like what happened with Mega Man X Collection.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: VixyNyan on January 15, 2010, 06:02:02 PM
Look at the price. You get what you pay for. '>.>
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Blackhook on January 15, 2010, 06:11:09 PM
How much is 4190 yens in Euro?
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Elpis TK31 on January 15, 2010, 06:12:54 PM
Lucky me for buying all four Rockman Zero games on GBA already.

Same here. I still need Z1's box/booklet tho >.>

OH AND I AM SO [tornado fang]ing BUYING THIS! Beats the crap out of having to carry all those cartridges with me everywhere.

I'm so happy now, first MM10, now this, now I just have to buy a DSi (for shoulder button)
Also, I'm hoping button customization includes putting jump on B and attack on Y, or better yet, make it like they did in ZX, attack option B and Y&B as standard! (showing they actually payed attention to how and what.)
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Night on January 15, 2010, 06:25:50 PM
I will [parasitic bomb] bricks if we get voiced dialogues like in ZX. Like really hard.
I hope they'll at least upscale the cutscene images and have better music quality than GBA's

Don't let me down on this one, Inti.

I'd be happy if we just got the character voices for the game dubbed. I WANNA HEAR LUCAS!!!!
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: STM on January 15, 2010, 06:53:44 PM
Lucas arguing with himself.

If he still haunts around the forums around the community, spying on people, it'd be fun to hear "normal Lucas" arguing with "kind of insane Lucas".

But asking him to dub over the scene where Zero and Omega speak to each other is too much. He'd have to be pretty bored out of his mind. :P
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Gaia on January 15, 2010, 07:18:57 PM
All hype for a collection JUST for certain characters and goodies/remixes/extras? I pity thy fool.

Me on the other hand.. I'm playing it soley for that experience I had playing this well-developed series. I wonder why it's always goddamn Zero/DASH/X > EXE/SF though, bugs the hellouta me.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Satoryu on January 15, 2010, 07:53:33 PM
I fukken called it. Cross off another game I want to see made in the next 5 4 years. (http://forum.rockmanpm.com/index.php?topic=856.msg51924#msg51924)

I already have all four on GBA, but if this has some nice bonuses and the control setup is closer to how ZX handles, I'll certainly consider it.

Ditto.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: blackbeltdude on January 15, 2010, 11:04:33 PM
I hope it's just as good as the Japanese version, since the US version of the GBA games weren't.

I'm hoping to see:


This isn't asking for much at all really, and I think it's pretty realistic. Those last two things are something we got in the other Collections, and the localization was a bit more direct for the X games (X said, "Damn" in X1 at least...).

But the game might be worth importing if the US version gets a few things cut out that the Japanese version enjoys.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Zx on January 15, 2010, 11:19:43 PM
  • The red splash effect that was used when things were sliced open (the "blood")
That was a cool add to the Z series.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Flame on January 15, 2010, 11:21:34 PM
Personally, I dont think concept art is the best thing. ZOCW already has all of it- If anything, remastered stills and cutscenes. (Nakayama's work is great, bit I loved the more polished stills from Zero 3 and 4)
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: HokutoNoBen on January 15, 2010, 11:45:03 PM
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!

It may be just another compilation, but it was about time.

Any way, the thing I single most hope for? More screen space. That'd be the kind of thing that would really make me happier.

Beyond that is just a nice bonus. It would be interesting if they made it so you could use any of Zero's weapons in any game of your choosing. I loved that Chain Rod, curse the fact that it was only in one game!

Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Zan on January 15, 2010, 11:49:33 PM
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I hope it's just as good as the Japanese version, since the US version of the GBA games weren't.

What are you talking about? The removal of a silly little blood splatter effect suddenly makes the games less good?
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: The Great Gonzo on January 15, 2010, 11:53:41 PM
All right. :) (At least the PRC post about it isn't cluttered with "lol stupid capcom is stupid" comments like with .EXE OSS)

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What are you talking about? The removal of a silly little blood splatter effect suddenly makes the games less good?

Keeping/restoring it would seem less prudish, I think...
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: VixyNyan on January 16, 2010, 12:02:02 AM
If you want to talk about localized changes and some other contents, maybe you all should discuss this with Capcom Unity (http://www.capcom-unity.com/jgonzo/blog/2010/01/15/capcom_japan_announces_mega_man_zero_collection).

They will listen to your suggestions, and JGonzo even asks if people want the collection to be localized. ^^

The Japanese collection will probably be unchanged from the GBA versions.
They could show more things on screen if they want to. :3
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: megaman24681012 on January 16, 2010, 12:14:53 AM
I CAME.  :O

THIS. IS. THE. BEST. THING. TO. EVER. HAPPEN.

Thank you Inticreates for bestowing us Zero fans with this Holy Grail!!!!  *o*



Now make ZX3...   ::)
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: RMX on January 16, 2010, 12:46:31 AM
I'd be happy if we just got the character voices for the game dubbed. I WANNA HEAR LUCAS!!!!

Imagine Lucas saying he's a messiah
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Flame on January 16, 2010, 12:49:34 AM
I still want to hear him say "This is Zero the voice of Lucas".
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Night on January 16, 2010, 01:53:00 AM
I still want to hear him say "This is Zero the voice of Lucas".

wow, I wanna hear that too...


brb editing...
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: VixyNyan on January 16, 2010, 01:54:17 AM
Imagine Lucas saying he's a messiah
I still want to hear him say "This is Zero the voice of Lucas".

Lucas: "I am the Messiah!" (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/lucaszero-iamthemessiah.mp3)
I really hope you all appreciate this thoughtful thing he did for us~
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Nekomata on January 16, 2010, 01:55:44 AM
i can't wait for it to have absolutely no changes over the GBA versions.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Rad Lionheart on January 16, 2010, 02:03:04 AM
Why would it have changes?
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Nekomata on January 16, 2010, 02:09:10 AM
because it'd be retarded not to add anything, and the only people who'd buy it already own the four games/have played em to death?
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Night on January 16, 2010, 02:24:46 AM
My games are actually starting to glitch. I can't even make a save file on Z2  :(
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: megaman24681012 on January 16, 2010, 02:32:44 AM
Lucas: "I am the Messiah!" (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/lucaszero-iamthemessiah.mp3)
I really hope you all appreciate this thoughtful thing he did for us~

woah, woah, woah... where'd you get that? Lucas himself or some other place?  o~O
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Night on January 16, 2010, 02:37:45 AM
Doesn't sound cocky enough. Omega has a more bold and triumphant voice. This just sounds creepy.

Not that i didn't giggle like a schoolgirl at it though.  >0<
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Nekomata on January 16, 2010, 02:38:54 AM
woah, woah, woah... where'd you get that? Lucas himself or some other place?  o~O
lurk a whole [tornado fang]ing lot more.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: VixyNyan on January 16, 2010, 02:39:22 AM
woah, woah, woah... where'd you get that? Lucas himself or some other place?  o~O

Lucas himself. It was for the good of the community. He "endorsed" it~ x3
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Solar on January 16, 2010, 02:41:58 AM
woah, woah, woah... where'd you get that? Lucas himself or some other place?  o~O

Did you never notice the WAIFF player in the front page?
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Night on January 16, 2010, 02:52:57 AM
I'm wondering how Jack Merluzzi would sound playing omega....
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: megaman24681012 on January 16, 2010, 03:10:16 AM
hey, I just wanted to know...

and yes, I do know of Lucas' endorsement of this site.  ::)
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: STM on January 16, 2010, 03:35:36 AM
I wonder if they would make Dr. Weil's battles in Z4 not suck... he was pretty damn easy. Elpis easy.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Gaia on January 16, 2010, 04:10:03 AM
I wonder if they would make Dr. Weil's battles in Z4 not suck... he was pretty damn easy. Elpis easy.

No, Copy X easy. I never found him really that hard. XP
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Rad Lionheart on January 16, 2010, 04:10:59 AM
I only played the first game, and although I sucked horribly at the entire game, the only battle I found difficult was the oversized slug.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Flame on January 16, 2010, 04:21:33 AM
Hmm... Actually, a change I would welcome, is a hardmode that doesnt revolve around nerfing the player, but just by making everything ELSE harder. That's something that Inti just can't seem to wrap their heads around.
Lucas: "I am the Messiah!" (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/lucaszero-iamthemessiah.mp3)
I really hope you all appreciate this thoughtful thing he did for us~
Lucas, you are awesome. But you already knew that.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Blaze Yeager on January 16, 2010, 05:06:26 AM
(Finally able to meet ya in your real form again, honey. Lovely Levi-tan :p)
Levi's mine... -_-
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: HyperSonicEXE on January 16, 2010, 05:20:28 AM
Otherwise, you guys will hype yourselves up and then go into bitter mode like what happened with Mega Man X Collection.

I wasn't around on the intarwebz much for that one, but shouldn't X1-X3 or X4, even in their original formats, game enough to satisfy?

Who needs extras when you have, in your hands, the greatness that is Mega Man X1?
Really?

Posted on: January 15, 2010, 10:17:14 PM
Lucas: "I am the Messiah!" (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/lucaszero-iamthemessiah.mp3)
I really hope you all appreciate this thoughtful thing he did for us~

This many years later, I'm still trying to understand that line.

Was Omega thinking he was going to conquer the world and whatnot, or was he mocking Zero?

Either way, that laugh needs to be maniacal! I think. Hard to tell what the voicing team was intending.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Blaze Yeager on January 16, 2010, 05:22:33 AM
Someone Bring this to America!,i've never played Z2-4 anyway...
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Flame on January 16, 2010, 05:31:18 AM
I wasn't around on the intarwebz much for that one, but shouldn't X1-X3 or X4, even in their original formats, game enough to satisfy?

Because many people already have X1-6.
And it wouldnt have killed them to fix X6's terrible localization (and maybe not slap us in the face further by removing the voice overs that were optional in the original game itself)
the bonuses were things everyone had really already seen...
and if im not mistaken, werent we promised voice overs and remastered tracks or something?
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: HokutoNoBen on January 16, 2010, 05:46:39 AM
This many years later, I'm still trying to understand that line.

Was Omega thinking he was going to conquer the world and whatnot, or was he mocking Zero?

I believe it was supposed to go along with the whole "God of Destruction" thing going for Zero. Omega, being the one in possession of Zero's original body, thought of himself as that God, and that he OBVIOUSLY was going to prove his superiority to Zero (in the Clone Body).

I think that's enough to explain Omega's megalomania as any. God of Destruction. Messiah of Murder. Same difference!  8D
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Flame on January 16, 2010, 05:49:41 AM
Inferiority complex too, Id say.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: OKeijiDragon on January 16, 2010, 06:39:07 AM
I came late. And then...

(http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/7115/wtfza.png)
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Satoryu on January 16, 2010, 08:45:23 AM
An option for the Japanese VA (not expecting them to do a dub)

Uuh, the games already have all the Japanese acting in it, save for at least one monologue cut from Zero4.

The red splash effect that was used when things were sliced open (the "blood")

Will never happen because it is representive of blood, which is a nono for a game series that carries an E rating and will never carry anything higher. Also to be frank, it's a completely unnecessary cosmetic feature of the series that goes overboard a few times. Boxes bleed for crying out loud.

Don't give that "more mature" crap, either.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Solar on January 16, 2010, 08:51:25 AM
Uuh, the games already have all the Japanese acting in it, save for at least one monologue cut from Zero4.

Which? All I knew was that was removed was the beginning of the ending credits for Z4.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: STM on January 16, 2010, 08:53:25 AM
Because many people already have X1-6.
And it wouldnt have killed them to fix X6's terrible localization (and maybe not slap us in the face further by removing the voice overs that were optional in the original game itself)
the bonuses were things everyone had really already seen...
and if im not mistaken, werent we promised voice overs and remastered tracks or something?
That was all baseless conjecture by a random blogger... one of the old MMN boys, IIRC. A lot of people bought into it and were furious when none of it came about. Things proposed by this person were:

-X1-X3 to have remastered music tracks.
-X4 to be dubbed by current V.A.'s
-X5 would have had the proper English names of the Mavericks
-X6 would also have English voice acting and cleaned up script.

However, the death knell to all of this comes from Lucas himself. Someone asked him if he was ever called in to do recordings and he pretty much shot that down.

Hell, I was happy enough that X3 was the PS1 version (even if most of the music suffered here) and we got Battle and Chase. Otherwise, it was nice to have all those games in one place.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Satoryu on January 16, 2010, 08:56:21 AM
Which? All I knew was that was removed was the beginning of the ending credits for Z4.

Ciel narrated the intro, didn't she?
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Emiri Landeel on January 16, 2010, 08:58:20 AM
I came late. And then...

(http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/7115/wtfza.png)

Haha.
When I saw James, all I think is "They got a quick buck for this shitload of [tornado fang]".

MMZ collection might be Capcom's quick buck attempted but the series are far from [parasitic bomb]. 8D
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Nekomata on January 16, 2010, 08:59:18 AM
Boxes bleed for crying out loud.
[parasitic bomb] was awesome.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Solar on January 16, 2010, 09:02:00 AM
Ciel narrated the intro, didn't she?

Let me do a quick Youtube research...yes, but I think it was actually Neige, not Ciel.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Nekomata on January 16, 2010, 09:05:40 AM
it was ciel.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: STM on January 16, 2010, 09:08:15 AM
Actually, there is one thing I'd like them to add to the Zero Collection, but more because I just liked the touch when they introduced it.

You know how the Z-Saber cuts bosses in two when its the killing hit? I liked in ZX Advent that they introduced the charged buster being able to pierce enemies like that too. I'd like to see that implemented, though it'd mean drawing up sprites for almost every boss.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Solar on January 16, 2010, 09:09:35 AM
it was ciel.

You sure? The "We are one of those groups fleeing from Dr. Weil in our caravan..." line followed by Neige's caravan being attacked made me think otherwise =/
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on January 16, 2010, 09:10:08 AM
sif not recognise Yuko Goto's voice.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: VixyNyan on January 16, 2010, 09:19:48 AM
Ciel's voice is lighter...

And other things.
- Ciel screamed "Zero! Zero!" in echo after Zero destroyed Omega in Z3. In English versions, we got Ciel mugshot with text instead.
- The Credits theme in Z4 was Instrumental in English versions.
- Not to mention the talk about repliroids and caravans in Z4 Intro Japanese version too. (http://forum.rockmanpm.com/index.php?topic=390.msg98484#msg98484)

EDIT: I found the post I made about Z4 intro in this forum~ </wii>
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Zan on January 16, 2010, 01:59:10 PM
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This many years later, I'm still trying to understand that line.

Was Omega thinking he was going to conquer the world and whatnot, or was he mocking Zero?

Suzuki (Character Designer): Up till now, we've been answering the questions, but now we have one for the sound team. What you tell us about the speech of Omega's third form?

Yamada (Sound Director): It's "Ware wa messhia nari!" ["I am the messiah!"] It certainly sounds like that "I am God" kind of speech, something a terrorist or anarchist or someone like that would say, doesn't it? I think that's the kind of impression we we're trying to give. It's not the speech by itself alone that holds significance, however, if you could express Omega's brutality and ferocity and everything into one line, that's what it would be, right! By the way, what's the creation story behind the personality of Omega form three?

Yabe (Background Designer): Omega form 3's personality program (cyber-elf), was programmed by Vile to be his messiah. Though, as to Omega form 3's...Original Zero's personality being completely Vile-made, I couldn't say that.

Ito (Series Director): I can't deny the possibility that the original personality that "a certain doctor who tried to take over the world innumerable times" created for Zero was remaining in the body, and that side of the personality having won over.

Yabe: I guess we're entrusting everyone to use their imagination (he laughs).
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Zx on January 16, 2010, 02:08:16 PM
because it'd be retarded not to add anything, and the only people who'd buy it already own the four games/have played em to death?
Yeah, its like the Sonic Collection.
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Post by: Hypershell on January 16, 2010, 05:14:09 PM
Hoo boy.  Just when I'm getting indifferent to the internet, expecting no interesting non-MM10-related news, CoJ strikes!  Many quotes to catch up on.  But for now I'll just say, for reasons of convenience alone I'm sure I'll buy this even with no extras.  But some stuff I would like to see are:

-Remastered Tracks.
-Some alternate unlock method for the Z3 e-Reader stuff (hey, it was all translated already).
-Splash effects; don't have to be "blood red", but they should be there.
-An option to "lock" bosses into their strongest forms, so that (after New Game Plus for the EX Skills, anyway) you can ignore the nonsensical ranking system.  This is most badly needed in Z2 where there is no Ultimate Mode, and thus no way for a fully powered player to fight a fully powered boss.  As a completionist, I've never even seen Elpizo's EX Skill.

I wonder if it will feature any bonus goodies? I mean, if its NDS like ti says, then maybe it will just be No frills, but Id kill to have a remastered version with the remastered tracks music. I mean, the site's using it...
Not the first time a website used remastered versions (see ZX).  The fact that it's being produced in Japan gives me hope, though (if this were a U.S.-made compilation ala MMAC, I'd say probably not, because if they're using the Remastered Tracks some editing will be necessary to ensure that they loop properly).

If they do use the Remastered Tracks then I doubt the sound quality will be all that impressive, since they need to deal with DS filespace limits.  Should be possible, though, so here's hoping.

Lucas: "I am the Messiah!" (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/lucaszero-iamthemessiah.mp3)
I really hope you all appreciate this thoughtful thing he did for us~
I may need to add one of those clips as the opening for Cannonball Hard Revenge. 8)

Hmm... Actually, a change I would welcome, is a hardmode that doesnt revolve around nerfing the player, but just by making everything ELSE harder. That's something that Inti just can't seem to wrap their heads around.
So incredibly true.  Their ranking system is no better, since you are punished for using upgrades, bosses are effectively nerfed in response to you growing more powerful.  It makes no sense whatsoever.

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Lucas, you are awesome. But you already knew that.
Here's hoping.  Either way, it never hurts to remind him.

You ROCK, Lucas!!

Will never happen because it is representive of blood, which is a nono for a game series that carries an E rating and will never carry anything higher. Also to be frank, it's a completely unnecessary cosmetic feature of the series that goes overboard a few times. Boxes bleed for crying out loud.

Don't give that "more mature" crap, either.
They can always recolor it for ZX's "spark" appearance rather than removing it outright, though.  I agree it doesn't mean all that much, it just sucks to have the finer touches omitted.

That said, you're wrong about the ratings.  Advent got an E-10.

one of the old MMN boys, IIRC.
Jaxel, I believe.

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However, the death knell to all of this comes from Lucas himself. Someone asked him if he was ever called in to do recordings and he pretty much shot that down.
In all fairness Lucas did admit that VAs are often the last people to hear about such things.  Lucas confirms that no Zero-recording took place, doesn't mean that plans couldn't have been scrapped before they reached him.  However it does confirm that any reports of X4 alterations being undone are false.

In fact there was another "undone" claim that I spotted as completely baseless in MMN's reports on XC long ago.  After XC's release, they sited XC-X6's Sentsuizan description as evidence that control alterations were made and later undone.  The problem is, that description is absolutely identical to the PS1 version.

The only thing about XC that has me raising an eyebrow is that the X1/X2 SNES music is streamed rather than emulated (you can tell in that it doesn't properly loop).  You can't tell me that the GCN cannot emulate the SNES SPU.  Given that, the idea of them considering a soundtrack swap ala the PS2 MMAC seems conceivable.

I was just happy to play XC on GCN and smite all the people who claimed that the GCN controller could not possibly be used for an X-series game (these days I take it a step further and play SNES games using a Wii remote alone).  And having the PS1 X3 was awesome, even if the SNES version is arguably superior on the sound end, it was great to get my hands on a version of the game that previously never made it to the U.S.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Cpie on January 16, 2010, 05:32:33 PM
Personally, I dont think concept art is the best thing. ZOCW already has all of it- If anything, remastered stills and cutscenes. (Nakayama's work is great, bit I loved the more polished stills from Zero 3 and 4)
the guy doing stills from Z 4 wasn't Nakayama, and he sucked horribly. I remember the art for Neige, it was horrible.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: STM on January 16, 2010, 07:02:51 PM
(http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/8381/rmz04014ds.jpg)

Yep.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Akira on January 16, 2010, 07:54:58 PM
That is great!, But I'm still waiting for a new Rockman X ( retro style)  :\
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Satoryu on January 16, 2010, 08:16:57 PM
That said, you're wrong about the ratings.  Advent got an E-10.

Oops. Didn't realize that. Probably because there's next to no difference between E and E10 anyway. What did ZXA have that would be unappropriate for those under the age of 10?
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Post by: Cpie on January 16, 2010, 08:49:44 PM
(http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/8381/rmz04014ds.jpg)

Yep.

I had This one (http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/1976/301994-mmz4_neige_large.jpg) in mind, but it's the same.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: blackbeltdude on January 16, 2010, 09:10:28 PM
What are you talking about? The removal of a silly little blood splatter effect suddenly makes the games less good?

From a gameplay perspective, no. From overall polish and presentation; I would say it's certainly weaker than it's Japanese counterpart. I defiantly think it's a cool effect in the ZX series (albeit yellow).

Uuh, the games already have all the Japanese acting in it, save for at least one monologue cut from Zero4.

Will never happen because it is representive of blood, which is a nono for a game series that carries an E rating and will never carry anything higher. Also to be frank, it's a completely unnecessary cosmetic feature of the series that goes overboard a few times. Boxes bleed for crying out loud.

Don't give that "more mature" crap, either.

I'm pretty sure the US versions didn't have the VA in it. If they did, then cool, I hope they keep it in (I played some of 1 and all of 2 and heard none; I only played the Japanese versions of 3 and 4). :P Either way, I'm talking mainly about what I want to see the localization of the collection. But hell, I guess it wouldn't be that hard to actually dub the game; Lucas would totally rock the game.

The Zero series could totally get away with E 10+ or T (consider that Smash Bros carries a T). Plus, this is a collection of all the games; I would expect them to keep them as faithful as possible. It's for the fans in the same way the last two collections were.


I'd love to hear them replace the stage music with remastered tracks, but I don't see it happening... I think they'll do what they did for the last collections, and just have them as unlockable goodies to listen to in a gallery.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Flame on January 16, 2010, 09:18:49 PM
All the Voice acting the Zero series had was Ciel's Huff Huff! in Z1.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Align on January 17, 2010, 12:29:17 AM
And combat yells.
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Post by: Flame on January 17, 2010, 01:05:07 AM
Yeah. that too. Oh, and that bit in Z3 where she screams.
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Post by: HokutoNoBen on January 17, 2010, 01:25:48 AM
From a gameplay perspective, no. From overall polish and presentation; I would say it's certainly weaker than it's Japanese counterpart. I defiantly think it's a cool effect in the ZX series (albeit yellow).

The Zero series could totally get away with E 10+ or T (consider that Smash Bros carries a T). Plus, this is a collection of all the games; I would expect them to keep them as faithful as possible. It's for the fans in the same way the last two collections were.

You know what, though?

Given how censorship has been kicked up a notch in Japan in these last few years, I wouldn't be surprised if the "blood" was taken out of the JP originals, either.

If they wanted to keep Rockman Zero in the "safe" CERO A or B range, more than likely, the juice will have to be either taken out, or just made into sparks, like they did in ZX.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Flame on January 17, 2010, 01:27:56 AM
I wouldnt mind it being yellow like ZX. it's a very satisfying effect either way.
And I agree that if they could add the Buster thing where it pierces the enemy, that WOULD be awesome. (not holding my breath though.)
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: blackbeltdude on January 17, 2010, 01:57:29 AM
You know what, though?

Given how censorship has been kicked up a notch in Japan in these last few years, I wouldn't be surprised if the "blood" was taken out of the JP originals, either.

If they wanted to keep Rockman Zero in the "safe" CERO A or B range, more than likely, the juice will have to be either taken out, or just made into sparks, like they did in ZX.

I kind of doubt they'd remove it from the Japanese version; as far as I know, the only censorship stuff that Japan got huffy about was the "sex"-simulators. :P I think all the blood in a game is still very much fair game. Not to mention its pretty clear its cartoon violence/fantasy violence, and most things being sliced open are robots (or at least defined as robots). I see it as an "up in the air" kind of decision that Capcom has to make though, but keeping it in the US version certainly gives more incentive for people to buy the collection (for a few reasons).

If worse comes to worse though, I'd take the "spark" coloring over nothing. :P

Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Flame on January 17, 2010, 02:01:11 AM
X4 had lots of Robot blood. And it got an E on the Greatest hits list. (an K-A before!)
In fact, you would think they were filled with nothing but the red stuff. Or at least Double gave that impression.
I say, if X4 had blood, let the splatter stay this time. why the heck not.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Gaia on January 17, 2010, 02:09:28 AM
Oh yeah, that scene. I always thought it was special oil. 8D

..But yeah, I don't care for that minor nitpick, it was pretty much a good series even without extra goodies, like say.. Battle Network Rockman EXE. Best example there.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Flame on January 17, 2010, 02:26:33 AM
Well, Hydraulic fluid tends to be a reddish color.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Gaia on January 17, 2010, 02:31:45 AM
Well, guess that's true, albiet having playing as Zero treats it more like blood as a part of his nightmares and flashbacks in X4. :/
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Post by: Flame on January 17, 2010, 02:32:31 AM
Well it essentially IS a robot's blood, I would think.
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Post by: HokutoNoBen on January 17, 2010, 02:47:42 AM
I kind of doubt they'd remove it from the Japanese version; as far as I know, the only censorship stuff that Japan got huffy about was the "sex"-simulators. :P

Nope. Especially following the Akihabara incident two years ago, violence and gore related censorship has gotten a lot stiffer in recent years. Sega and Platinum Games' MadWorld wasn't even allowed to be released in Japan without a CERO rating of Z (the equivalent of "Adults Only").

And even in cases where blood existed in some series before hand (say, fighting games like Samurai Spirits/Shodown and Guilty Gear), the blood was taken out in future releases in Japan.

So, for a shounen level franchise like Rockman, I think it goes without saying that the "blood" will likely be taken out, or recolored. Or else, Capcom will have to settle for a higher rating because the Japanese censors just won't go for anything less than a "CERO B".

That's what it looks like for Japan. Assuming this game does come over here, that's up to CoA to decide how they localize it.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: RMX on January 17, 2010, 02:52:41 AM
All the Voice acting the Zero series had was Ciel's Huff Huff! in Z1.

She also said 'Nani?' in Z2 when you spoke to her in the lab
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Satoryu on January 17, 2010, 03:25:45 AM
I remember it being Okaeri.

blackbeltdude: To my knowledge, there is no "voice acting" in the Zero games aside from the examples listed. It's not like the games' entire scripts were dubbed, that would never fit on a GBA. So in that sense, not much has been cut from the overseas releases at all in terms of acting. Any grunts and battle cries that were there originally weren't taken out.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: VixyNyan on January 17, 2010, 03:29:17 AM
She also said 'Nani?' in Z2 when you spoke to her in the lab
I remember it being Okaeri.

It was both, randomly~ ^^
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Flame on January 17, 2010, 03:55:49 AM
She also said 'Nani?' in Z2 when you spoke to her in the lab
I never played 2
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Blaze Yeager on January 17, 2010, 04:14:43 AM
I never played 2
Never played 2-4,only Z1....
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Hypershell on January 17, 2010, 04:28:54 AM
Oops. Didn't realize that. Probably because there's next to no difference between E and E10 anyway. What did ZXA have that would be unappropriate for those under the age of 10?
Overall less politically correct dialogue, I suppose.  ZXA doesn't tip-toe around death, suffering, and god-complexes the way previous games of the X and Zero series did.

blackbeltdude: To my knowledge, there is no "voice acting" in the Zero games aside from the examples listed. It's not like the games' entire scripts were dubbed, that would never fit on a GBA. So in that sense, not much has been cut from the overseas releases at all in terms of acting. Any grunts and battle cries that were there originally weren't taken out.
I don't think anyone mentioned the Z1 title screen.

But yeah, barely anything audio-wise was removed in Zero-series localization.  The most significant losses were Z4's opening monologue and the lyrics to the ending theme.  It's certainly *NOTHING* compared to ZX.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: kosmos on January 17, 2010, 07:09:33 AM
(http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/img/gmw/docs/342/668/zero04.jpg)

What's going on with the life meter?, looks really weird.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Flame on January 17, 2010, 07:46:10 AM
I'll say.
(http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/9679/40389071.jpg)

Posted on: January 17, 2010, 01:35:48 AM
Thats from collection?(stupid question) They might be trying to go the ZX route where you only see the symbol on the healthbar? its possible.
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Post by: Police Girl on January 17, 2010, 07:50:54 AM
(http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/img/gmw/docs/342/668/zero04.jpg)

What's going on with the life meter?, looks really weird.

The whole screen looks stretched, Zeros Head looks wierd.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Flame on January 17, 2010, 07:53:02 AM
I think that's just the shot's quality. It's the lifebar that's more interesting...
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Post by: Solar on January 17, 2010, 07:57:19 AM
The whole screen looks stretched, Zeros Head looks wierd.

It actually feels shrunk/zoomed out to me.

I think that's just the shot's quality. It's the lifebar that's more interesting...

Yeah, why is it blue? Where is the rank?
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Post by: Police Girl on January 17, 2010, 07:57:33 AM
I kinda like the lifebar, I just hope that the purple crap behind it is the door and not part of the Lifebar.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Rad Lionheart on January 17, 2010, 08:00:05 AM
I think it's the door.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Flame on January 17, 2010, 08:08:27 AM
It IS the door.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: STM on January 17, 2010, 08:13:30 AM
They're getting rid of ranks and setting the bosses to their former S Rank levels.

...While this would be nice, I liked how the game scolded people for sucking by bestowing upon them a horrid rank.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Rad Lionheart on January 17, 2010, 08:14:25 AM
I didn't enjoy being scolded for sucking.  ;^;
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Solar on January 17, 2010, 08:15:40 AM
As much as the rankings annoyed me at times, the Zero series without rankings just isn't the Zero series to me =/
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Post by: Emiri Landeel on January 17, 2010, 08:17:00 AM
Damn!
So, I can't brag my rights when I completed all 4 games S rank with non Cyberelf-assist like what I did back in the days? X(
SADDDD PANDAAAAAAAAAAAA
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Flame on January 17, 2010, 08:19:43 AM
hey, hey, we dont know anything yet. maybe they are just getting rid of the extra things on the lifebar yet keeping it all the same. we dont know yet you know. I mean, what, so that means theres no more weapons as well because THAT isnt there? 8U
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Emiri Landeel on January 17, 2010, 08:23:23 AM
Maybe, there's second screen on the DS afterall.
We don't see what's on the second screen yet. Maybe all the other indicator will be shown on it.

Just a wild guess tho. ::)
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Solar on January 17, 2010, 08:28:10 AM
That actually sounds quite possible.

Speaking of the second screen, how does instant weapon switching using the touch screen sound? I'd love if they allowed that.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Flame on January 17, 2010, 08:32:54 AM
Sounds pointless, honestly...
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Rad Lionheart on January 17, 2010, 08:33:15 AM
Turn on/off classic rank mode?
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Post by: Flame on January 17, 2010, 08:39:30 AM
Now THAT, sounds interesting.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Rad Lionheart on January 17, 2010, 08:53:54 AM
Yay my idea was a hit. :U
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on January 17, 2010, 08:55:14 AM
You guys need to try harder.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Flame on January 17, 2010, 09:14:34 AM
Hey, you know what else is different in that pic? the door.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v89/Terralventhe/mmz1.jpg)
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Rad Lionheart on January 17, 2010, 09:21:30 AM
BY GOD IT IS, THIS IS A HUGE CHANGE, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN TAKE IT MAN!
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Flame on January 17, 2010, 09:26:50 AM
Im just sayin'. Dont you point that attitude at me, boi.
It was just a comment. I noticed the door was different. So I said so.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Rad Lionheart on January 17, 2010, 09:28:37 AM
I was just having fun with sarcasm.


Then I came.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Flame on January 17, 2010, 09:41:41 AM
Sarcasm doesn't travel well on the internet.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Rad Lionheart on January 17, 2010, 09:46:33 AM
Well I tried to make it seem as sarcastic as possible, what with the all caps and what not.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on January 17, 2010, 09:49:49 AM
Sarcasm doesn't travel well on the internet.

I think the problem is on your end here bro.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Flame on January 17, 2010, 09:54:16 AM
I might have forgotten to turn on my sarcasm detector.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Rad Lionheart on January 17, 2010, 11:15:19 AM
You should charge it's batteries twice a day!
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Galappan on January 17, 2010, 12:53:33 PM
The Z Shutter re-opens...

The Legacy of the Red God Of Destruction leaves on with...

Rockman Zero Collection
 *o*


They MUST put a Boss Rush Mode. That's the least thing they can add.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Flame on January 17, 2010, 04:55:08 PM
That would be Nice...
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Zan on January 17, 2010, 05:23:57 PM
If you ask me, that screenshot looks like it could be from the prerelease ZERO1... Not from the finalized game, nor the DS collection. If that's actually from the collection, I really have to question how much they're changing...
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Post by: VixyNyan on January 17, 2010, 05:25:13 PM
Game Watch decided to post it anyway. >U< (http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20100115_342668.html)
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Solar on January 17, 2010, 05:55:07 PM
Sounds pointless, honestly...

It's only as pointless as ZXA's use of the touchscreen to Trans On, it's so that you can change weapons without having to pause >_>
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Emiri Landeel on January 17, 2010, 06:00:20 PM
You know, DS has more buttons than GBA.
Maybe they can get rid of weapon switching as each weapon has it's own button now?

Well, just a wild guess tho. ::)
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: VixyNyan on January 17, 2010, 07:17:03 PM
I think there's gonna be a Trailer from World Hobby Fair 2010 (http://www.capcom.co.jp/event/whf_10w.html) posted online soon.
One of the modes mentioned was Collection Mode (コレクションモード) which might be an Art Gallery mode. ^^

http://bbs3.oebit.jp/cap/ (Post No.44)
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Post by: Gaia on January 17, 2010, 07:40:17 PM
There IS gonna be an art gallery mode, like we have enough of the arts of Zero (or it could be a minigame collection)~  <3
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Post by: blackbeltdude on January 17, 2010, 08:25:02 PM
I remember it being Okaeri.

blackbeltdude: To my knowledge, there is no "voice acting" in the Zero games aside from the examples listed. It's not like the games' entire scripts were dubbed, that would never fit on a GBA. So in that sense, not much has been cut from the overseas releases at all in terms of acting. Any grunts and battle cries that were there originally weren't taken out.

Ah, I think the remixed OSTs must have confused me then (since they had speaking tracks). :P

Nope. Especially following the Akihabara incident two years ago, violence and gore related censorship has gotten a lot stiffer in recent years. Sega and Platinum Games' MadWorld wasn't even allowed to be released in Japan without a CERO rating of Z (the equivalent of "Adults Only").

And even in cases where blood existed in some series before hand (say, fighting games like Samurai Spirits/Shodown and Guilty Gear), the blood was taken out in future releases in Japan.

So, for a shounen level franchise like Rockman, I think it goes without saying that the "blood" will likely be taken out, or recolored. Or else, Capcom will have to settle for a higher rating because the Japanese censors just won't go for anything less than a "CERO B".

That's what it looks like for Japan. Assuming this game does come over here, that's up to CoA to decide how they localize it.


Ah, that's interesting. I thought you were talking about the Rapelay controversy before (I don't actually recall the Akihabara incident). Given all of that, I could see them adjusting the graphics for the Japanese territory (which kind of explains the yellow in ZX).

However, the blood effects could actually make the game sell BETTER in America. So it's possible Japan might not get it this time, but we could (wouldn't be the first time America got a version of a game with blood, while Japan didn't).
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Zan on January 17, 2010, 08:54:17 PM
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Ah, I think the remixed OSTs must have confused me then (since they had speaking tracks). Tongue

Can I get a facepalm image?
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Post by: Nekomata on January 17, 2010, 08:56:02 PM
Can I get a facepalm image?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/HitomiNeko/202e2660.jpg)
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Post by: HokutoNoBen on January 17, 2010, 08:59:09 PM
Ah, that's interesting. I thought you were talking about the Rapelay controversy before (I don't actually recall the Akihabara incident). Given all of that, I could see them adjusting the graphics for the Japanese territory (which kind of explains the yellow in ZX).

However, the blood effects could actually make the game sell BETTER in America. So it's possible Japan might not get it this time, but we could (wouldn't be the first time America got a version of a game with blood, while Japan didn't).


The Akihabara incident, with "Suspect Kato", was a pretty volatile topic back in 08. Definitely sad, too. Go look it up, if you haven't, as it's at least a good means to understand why censorship is as hard in Japan as it is now.

But any way, again, I doubt very seriously that putting "juice" in a Rockman or Mega Man title will be that big of a selling point. The "God of War" crowd that makes up a sizable part of the American audience won't care. The people who already have played/owned the titles will also be more likely to be nonplussed by the idea. And Capcom would have to settle for at least a "T" rating, because the ESRB wouldn't tolerate anything else for such a display of "violence". That would do more to limit the audience that they can market this game towards, and why would they want that kind of handicap on possible sales numbers?  8D

Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Zx on January 17, 2010, 09:01:54 PM
A gallery mode would be boring, like Z2.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Hypershell on January 17, 2010, 09:08:41 PM
You would think that the "splatter" effect needn't require a T if they can convince the ESRB that robots (and boxes...) don't actually bleed.  But then that's still inviting PR issues from ignorant masses.  Again, I'm sure recoloring ZX-style would suffice.  The only reason to remove it outright is if CoA gets overly strict with copying the previous localization effort.

I don't really care how "mature" the game is, it's just nice to have that little extra bit of eye candy.  Zero series has pretty sucky effects graphics as it is, an extra bell or two wouldn't hurt it.

...While this would be nice, I liked how the game scolded people for sucking by bestowing upon them a horrid rank.
So if you've unlocked Z2's Ultimate Form, you officially suck beyond redemption?

If you ask me, that screenshot looks like it could be from the prerelease ZERO1...
My thoughts exactly.  There was a similar issue with the DS Sonic Collection, with Sonic being in an S&K Knuckles screenshot.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Flame on January 17, 2010, 09:42:24 PM
A Gallery mode? That's terrible... We already have almost all the Zero art very readily available on even Google. I would much prefer something like, say... Arranged music for the games, or that boss rush mode. Hell, even optional rank and touch screen weapon switching sounds better.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Harruhy on January 17, 2010, 09:51:24 PM
So if you've unlocked Z2's Ultimate Form, you officially suck beyond redemption?

I think that's only if you weren't trying to.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Hypershell on January 17, 2010, 10:10:37 PM
Play mechanics don't make such distinctions.

Besides, that would only make sense if you got the Elves automatically, which you don't.  I don't think anyone scored 100% collection without actually trying to.  And even if they did, some E-Crystal farming is in order (granted not nearly as bad as Z1).
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: VixyNyan on January 17, 2010, 10:13:16 PM
Oh yea, guess what?

Quote
Rockman Zero (http://www.rockmanpm.com/?p=zero/rockmanzero1) flagjp 2002.04.26 (GBA) [AGB-ARZJ-JPN]
Rockman Zero 2 (http://www.rockmanpm.com/?p=zero/rockmanzero2) flagjp 2003.05.02 (GBA) [AGB-A62J-JPN]
Rockman Zero 3 (http://www.rockmanpm.com/?p=zero/rockmanzero3) flagjp 2004.04.23 (GBA) [AGB-BZ3J-JPN]
Rockman Zero 4 (http://www.rockmanpm.com/?p=zero/rockmanzero4) flagjp 2005.04.21 (GBA) [AGB-B4ZJ-JPN]
Rockman ZX (http://www.rockmanpm.com/?p=zx/rockmanzx) flagjp 2006.07.06 (NDS) [NTR-ARZJ-JPN]
Rockman ZX Advent (http://www.rockmanpm.com/?p=zx/rockmanzxadvent) flagjp 2007.07.12 (NDS) [NTR-YZXJ-JPN]

It's gonna be Zero series 8 Year Anniversary~! <3
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Flame on January 17, 2010, 10:24:32 PM
Dare I say this deserves a retrospect? /.w.\

(anniversary + Collection announced)
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: VixyNyan on January 17, 2010, 10:33:15 PM
Dare I say this deserves a retrospect? /.w.\

I can give you this retrospect for now... :3 (http://forum.rockmanpm.com/index.php?topic=2634.0)
I'll think about another live cast later. ^^;
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Flame on January 17, 2010, 10:42:07 PM
Nyoroooon~ /.w.\
I kinda meant though, like what you did for classic with the front page. that wes really awesome. (remember we all talked about the possibility of doing it for the other series'?)
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Blaze Yeager on January 17, 2010, 10:58:14 PM
I can give you this retrospect for now... :3 (http://forum.rockmanpm.com/index.php?topic=2634.0)
I'll think about another live cast later. ^^;
Jesus,You did half of the series Vixy!

Speaking of which,i am remaking RMW2 but i'm gonna work later on that.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: VixyNyan on January 17, 2010, 11:00:41 PM
I kinda meant though, like what you did for classic with the front page. that wes really awesome. (remember we all talked about the possibility of doing it for the other series'?)

I tried to do that...
The Zero games doesn't have that many inspiring menu tiles I can use for web design. o.o;
I could look again and see if I can make some custom images. ^^
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Flame on January 17, 2010, 11:01:59 PM
Yeah. I kinda figured. Although god damn, you sure did a hell of a lot of them Megaman runs!
BTW, since its on topic, how DO you open that door behind Ciel in Zero 1?
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Zan on January 17, 2010, 11:04:24 PM
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It's gonna be Zero series 8 Year Anniversary~!

Since when did every year become an anniversary to celebrate? Wait two years and we'd be at 10.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Flame on January 17, 2010, 11:06:22 PM
Because the game comes out THIS year.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: VixyNyan on January 17, 2010, 11:16:48 PM
Um yea, we kinda celebrate the reason a Collection is made. ^^;

Wait two years and we'd be at 10.

If we live that long~ ;3
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Align on January 18, 2010, 12:19:18 AM
You know, DS has more buttons than GBA.
Maybe they can get rid of weapon switching as each weapon has it's own button now?

Well, just a wild guess tho. ::)

Hmm...

Nah. Unless they make sprites for tertiary and quaternary weapons charging.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: STM on January 18, 2010, 12:25:44 AM
So if you've unlocked Z2's Ultimate Form, you officially suck beyond redemption?
That's the exception to the rule. I'm not fond that they made Ultimate Form unlockable at the cost of killing your rank permanently, but it's a very Capcom-esque move in that you're punished for using the "overpowered" mode (see point reductions in DMC for using the super-powered forms)
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Flame on January 18, 2010, 12:27:52 AM
That's the exception to the rule. I'm not fond that they made Ultimate Form unlockable at the cost of killing your rank permanently, but it's a very Capcom-esque move in that you're punished for using the "overpowered" mode (see point reductions in DMC for using the super-powered forms)
No, thats more inti's thing.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on January 18, 2010, 12:34:38 AM
Because y'know it's not like he posted an example of Capcom doing or anything is it Flame.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Flame on January 18, 2010, 12:50:51 AM
Inti does that [parasitic bomb] too though.
and going with Megaman, Capcom doesnt always punish for good stuff. (Unless you count not being able to use special weapons with Gaia and Shadow Armor). Hell, in X8, they actually reward Zero for having the Black Armor, by giving him a better dash than his little scoot.
But whatever.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: STM on January 18, 2010, 01:01:25 AM
Awesome, I got the Z-Saber with my Gold Max Armor! Hey Zero, check this sh...i... oh.

(BAD END)

The Ultimate Armor/Black Zero in X5 and in X8 are the exceptions in the punished for overpowered mode rule, namely because everyone (who isn't accustomed to smack X5 a new one) would [sonic slicer] their heads off if they had to fight Maverick Zero without spamming the ever-loving crap out of Nova Strike (even if he has the most retarded boss programming in the series.) In X8, it was just to give the player something to mess around with for future playthroughs, which became the norm in Z3 and Z4 with Ultimate Mode. Z1 also had Ultimate Mode, but you had to bust your ass off before you even hoped to look at it.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Flame on January 18, 2010, 01:07:19 AM
by the time you get the saber, when youve got the gold max armor, Zero is useless anyway, and it SHOWS. Gold max can double air dash, hell, it can air dash PERIOD, amongst things like special weapons, charging them, and less damage... and then a saber wave. 8U
Not to mention Zero is slower than X, and bigger.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: blackbeltdude on January 18, 2010, 01:23:15 AM
Can I get a facepalm image?

It's hardly THAT bad. :P


The Akihabara incident, with "Suspect Kato", was a pretty volatile topic back in 08. Definitely sad, too. Go look it up, if you haven't, as it's at least a good means to understand why censorship is as hard in Japan as it is now.

But any way, again, I doubt very seriously that putting "juice" in a Rockman or Mega Man title will be that big of a selling point. The "God of War" crowd that makes up a sizable part of the American audience won't care. The people who already have played/owned the titles will also be more likely to be nonplussed by the idea. And Capcom would have to settle for at least a "T" rating, because the ESRB wouldn't tolerate anything else for such a display of "violence". That would do more to limit the audience that they can market this game towards, and why would they want that kind of handicap on possible sales numbers?  8D


So, I've read up on the Akihabara incident, and from what I can find, there didn't seem to be too big of a volatile reaction to violence afterwords (this is of course going off of Wikipedia, so please keep that in mind :P ). Like, this doesn't seem like the kind of thing that'd sky-rocket a rating from E to M (or even T), because of blood. The things that were affected by it were pretty specific and kind of had a temporal reasoning behind them (Sentai daggers, and delaying a MGS4 event). That's not saying that it's had no impact on violent media in Japan, but I think you may be giving it too much credit (Madworld had rating issues in just about every territory but America).

But to get more on track... I agree it's not much of a selling point on the grounds that it looks bloody, but if Capcom said "added content" and was referring to that, they'd pretty much be correct (they could say uncut, etc). The idea that the package has something that's better than before is what would attract people to re-buying the games; I really don't see it as something that would hurt sales. Unless of course, it did bump up the ratings to T, but even then, I don't see how.

ZX is E, and ZXA is E 10+ (but the descriptors are both cartoon violence). And this "blood" is pretty much only present when things are cut open (as far as I recall). And like other people said, X4 had a way more violent deception of it, so I don't see how it could be left out this time. It just doesn't make sense for a collection, which should be a culmination of the series' own quality, to leave out a bit of extra polish. I'd be surprised if it bumped the rating up to T (I would expect E 10+).

But hell, I'm looking forward to this, regardless of what's included. :P
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Flame on January 18, 2010, 01:28:50 AM
Lol. X4 was K-A, and even then after re-rating, was only "E"
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: HokutoNoBen on January 18, 2010, 01:41:57 AM
So, I've read up on the Akihabara incident, and from what I can find, there didn't seem to be too big of a volatile reaction to violence afterwords (this is of course going off of Wikipedia, so please keep that in mind :P ).

...Well, there you go. 8D

The more wide spread effect has been cause to crack down further on censorship in Japanese games (and this is on the heels of another incident that happened in '05).

As a result, you don't see blood in any Japanese game that's lower than a CERO C, now a days. That's just the way things are.   
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Hypershell on January 18, 2010, 02:11:43 AM
Awesome, I got the Z-Saber with my Gold Max Armor! Hey Zero, check this sh...i... oh.

(BAD END)
You expected them to put two Z-Sabers in X3?

Besides, the Z-Saber isn't a "normal" upgrade, it's only available under very specific circumstances (Vile killed early, and playing as Zero against a miniboss; something you ordinarily wouldn't bother with because at no other point is it even possible in the game).  And it is ludicrously overpowered, even without the armor upgrade's saber wave, it's still a 2-hit kill on any boss.

That is nowhere *NEAR* the scope of Inti's antics in the Zero-series.  The X-series has carried ranking systems for four titles now and at no point was there ever any punishment for upgrades that were a regular part of game progress, like Heart Tanks.  In Z1 (and to a lesser extent Z2), Cyber-Elves are your *ONLY* defensive upgrades.  Forsaking them is the equivalent of playing an X game armorless with no Heart Tanks.  Doable, certainly, but it's senseless for the game to attempt to enforce it as the default, much less to do so by making the bosses pansy out on you if you refuse those restrictions.  Ultimate Mode is the only way a fully powered player fights a fully powered boss, making such a feat completely impossible in 3 of Inti's 6 Zero/ZX games.  And Ultimate Mode is also ridiculously easy.  Whether UM is available or not, there is something wrong with that setup.

The Ultimate Armor/Black Zero in X5 and in X8 are the exceptions in the punished for overpowered mode rule
X1 - Hadouken
X2 - Shoryuken
X3 - Golden Armor
X4 - Ultimate Armor (What, I'm supposed to buy lacking Stock Charge as a punishment?  Nevermind that this is already the easiest game of the main series to begin with)
X6 - Same UA/BZ as X5, except Black Zero is even stronger with Saber Plus taking the place of X5's virus busting effect, and UA all the more valuable what with how sucktacular the Blade Buster is.
X7 - New Game Plus chip whoring
XCM - Ultimate Armor/Absolute Zero

Whatever rule you're looking for, it's not in MegaMan.  The only X-series game that actually does punish you for being overpowered is Xtreme2's reduction in part slots once you've completed the armor.  And even that's more of an exploit than anything, since the head part is worthless anyway (unless you have your heart set on the Shotokan moves), you're considerably MORE powerful by leaving it behind.

Losing Zero in X3 isn't much of a loss, either.  He's not accessible at any point after the stage in which you obtain the Z-Saber, and under normal circumstances X would have interrupted at the Mosquitus gate and you'd never see Zero again in that stage anyway.  So for all practical purposes you've lost nothing, except for three token non-playable appearances ("Let's split up!", "Used Doppler's program on my saber!", and "Credits jogging"), none of which impact the end result of the story (Zero's still alive, just pending repairs), and one is not even applicable to future ports of the game.

by the time you get the saber, when youve got the gold max armor, Zero is useless anyway, and it SHOWS. Gold max can double air dash, hell, it can air dash PERIOD, amongst things like special weapons, charging them, and less damage... and then a saber wave. 8U
Valid points, but he still has the better buster.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Zx on January 18, 2010, 02:33:14 PM
You know, it would be cool if they change that big talking box in Z1.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Align on January 18, 2010, 08:22:29 PM
And use later character art for the mugshots?
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Reg on January 19, 2010, 05:31:07 AM
Good news, indeed. I already own all four Zero games, but I'll still buy this if it gets localized. As for extras, I'm not getting my hopes up until I hear anything more.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Klavier Gavin on April 09, 2010, 11:30:06 AM
http://www.capcom.co.jp/rockman/zero/index.html

New [parasitic bomb] on the site, Story & Characters and System.


Can see a translation of the story here (http://www.themmnetwork.com/2010/04/09/does-the-rockman-zero-collection-storyline-explain-everything/).
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Hypershell on April 09, 2010, 11:14:08 PM
Oh, there's going to be a LOT of fanon to contend with for that one....

Personally, I'd take any timeline that lists Zero's birth as "1XX years ago" with a rather large bag of salt.  That contradicts even the existence of the Elf Wars, nevermind the X-series speculation.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Zan on April 09, 2010, 11:16:28 PM
Playing devil's advocate here.... but, is there any reason why Zero's birth has to happen in 20XX instead of 21XX? Why can't Wily produce Zero even beyond death?

Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Hypershell on April 09, 2010, 11:26:05 PM
I suppose that would depend on how human-looking Wily's avatar while working is.  Although, the fact that we've already seen Zero's plans in Classic-series timeframe makes that very odd.

The level to which one has to condense the timeline to get any sense out of that is pretty crazy, though.  The first hundred years are offed by Elf Wars alone.  From there back to Zero's seal, MINIMUM of 50, although that in itself clashes a bit with a few tidbits (mainly any hope of fitting X's Z1 dialogue into the timeline).  That leaves, maximum, 49 years between Zero's birth and first inter-series seal, during which we need to fit the entire X-series and a decent gap before and after.

Consider that the gap from the copyright of Cain's computer (2114) to the discovery of the Force Metal meteor (2202) is 88 years.

BROKEN TIMELINE

That or Cain has some damn ancient equipment.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Zan on April 09, 2010, 11:39:19 PM
I'd go with Cain's ancient equipment. We already knew from Inafune and others that the gap from classic to X is "more than 100 years". With "20XX", having X sealed much earlier than 2014 seems to be kinda out there.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Hypershell on April 10, 2010, 01:07:34 AM
That was a joke stolen from our AIM conversation.  My point is, maximum 49 years from Zero's birth to Zero's pre-Elf Wars stasis, is simply nuts.  Pretty much the entire X-series, including the Classic-to-X series gap, needs to be rewritten in order to accommodate it.  Furthermore, in pressing the limits of that estimate, we wind up very obviously closer to 200 years than to 100.  The fact that they would offer the "1XX" estimate in spite of that is rather senseless.

Posted on: April 09, 2010, 04:45:00 PM
......
(http://home.comcast.net/~Anguirus/holdit.gif)

It just hit me, there's another angle to consider here.  On the website, all of this story information is under "Zero 0", with "Zero 1", "Zero 2", etc., being separate and currently unavailable options.  The timeline covers Zero's sealing, the separation of Zero's mind from his body, and "Project Elpizo", which is seemingly the official backing of Weil's philosophy.  But there is no mention of Weil himself, Omega, Copy Zero, the cursing of Dark Elf, the end of the Elf Wars, and the establishment of Neo Arcadia.  Surely Project Elpizo should be before all of that.

I'm tempted to say that the dates of this timeline refer to the Elf Wars and not to Zero-series.  The "Elf Wars/Maverick Wars" bit may be referring to the overall scope of the wars and not to the date of the Elf Wars specifically (which should be, according to MMZOCW's timeline, after Dark Elf's curse, thus after Project Elpizo).  On the other hand, the "Zero 0" label appears in the System section as well, and there appears to simply be their "general series info" tab.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Zan on April 10, 2010, 03:09:52 AM
I think there's a bit of leeway on the order of certain parts. But there's no going around the "1XX". Time is counted from the ZERO-series back.
Title: Re: Rockman Zero Collection Official Website goes live!!
Post by: Hypershell on April 10, 2010, 04:32:49 AM
Well, it was a thought.  And even if it's not true now, we could very well be revisiting the idea in a few years whenever the next time is that Inti/Capcom decides to throw us a gi-hugic curve ball.