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Rockman & Community => Rockman Series => ZX => Topic started by: MassKiller1 on November 15, 2008, 02:46:41 AM
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In some parts of RMZX and RMZXA there are elements that make reference to other stages in the X series.
-Area D2 (Rockman X1, Highway intro stage)
-Model A (Axl) fights Albert (Lumine), battle damaged, and X carries Axl down elevator/Vent-Alie save Grey-Ashe when they only have Model X (Rockman X8 reference).
-Serpent/Sigma were good before they were corrupted in some way.
That's all I got. Anyone notice more of these things?
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Giro dies and give Vent/Aile Model Z like Zero gave his buster to X after he self-destructed.
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The area where you fight Model H resembles the first stage(s) in ZX.
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I think the Scrapyard is supposed to be Area F.
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Duh! Metools! 8D
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The area where you fight Model H resembles the first stage(s) in ZX.
That's Area A alright.
Notice that Floating Ruins, Scrapyard, Control Center, and Highway are all from ZX (the border separating them from the other stages oin the map).
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Giro's appearance is supposidly a mix of Ceil and Zero. (hence the blue eyes, and obvious shiny blond hair >w<)
Vent's hair supposidly resembles Rockman EXE's.
Pararie is actually Allouete (SP?). 8D
The Mavs in ZX obviously resembles Weil's soldiers.
The big bloody 4.
That's probably it.
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and X carries Axl down elevator/Vent-Alie save Grey-Ashe when they only have Model X (Rockman X8 reference).
I never thought of that...
Wire sponge in tower of Verdure. take a gander at that massive vines roots.
Express UG is a collectible train in ZXA
The sea serpent from X1 is a ancient mechaniloid remains which are also collectible.
the plushies in Purprills stage.
Hyleg urobocle and the snake you fight him on partially concealed in hollow tree stumps where you fight giga aspis.
obvious X vs Zero fight (Vent/Aile vs Giro)
The sage trinities names
ummm... area M,
E cans,
W cans,
umm... lets see... the Big four's personalities. (they are warped versions of the 4 guardians personalities)
Posted on: November 15, 2008, 02:59:18 AM
Vent in ZXA is a reference to Giro,
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Wow I never thought of Giro that way.
Actually X has brown hair AND green eyes (like Vent/Aile).
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Wow I never thought of Giro that way.
Actually X has brown hair AND green eyes (like Vent/Aile).
Yea, but Vent's hair is more closer to the EXE Rockman. (Obvious mullets)
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There's Aztec Falcon in the Amusement Park and Childre's in Area F.
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Under the bus in Area C1 there is an enemy and boss from RMZ1/2 in a little lab with an E tank in the background.
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Under the bus in Area C1 there is an enemy and boss from RMZ1/2 in a little lab with an E tank in the background.
How DO you move that damn bus? ???
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hit it with an electric attack. like an Hx electric ball.
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Either that or an electric slash by Ox from afar.
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Not to mention the fact that Prarie's room is chock-full-of Cyber-elf plushies.
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Ashe's intro...
The logo...
Red Alert...? ::)
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Not to mention the fact that Prarie's room is chock-full-of Cyber-elf plushies.
Also pics of Zero and Ciel in the shelves.
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Ashe's intro...
The logo...
Red Alert...? ::)
forgot that too. >_<
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I never thought of Rockman.EXE having a mullet. He just got awesomer! Still, there are refs here I never even noticed.
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Model W is Dr.Weil, in a way.
Other models other than Model A are more obvious, hence me being Captain Obvious.
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Shame on all of you for not noticing/mentioning the Shisaroid's Geminiman~Split Mushroom attack pattern.
Albert's ascension video vaguely reminds me of Elpis' becoming a devil, visually.
Some of Serpent's attacks look like Elpis' attacks, and then there's the obvious Ragnarok Reference attack.
I would mention more, if I wasn't such a lazy bastard.
-Elpis
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Shame on all of you for not noticing/mentioning the Shisaroid's Geminiman~Split Mushroom attack pattern.
Thought about it, but they're actually pretty different. Shisharoids are 2 different bots, the other two are simply making clones/projections of themselves. And if anything, the Shishariods are far more annoying than Split Mushroom or Geminiman could ever be.
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Except that they aren't pretty different, there are two boss beings circling the level in a fashion so much like Geminiman, it can't be denied, what helps fuel the idea is that -like geminiman- you can strike both targets to do damage. wether they be "projections" or not, the pattern is a reference. moreso to Gemini than to shroom (as you can damage only one shroom.)
-Elpis
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Yea, but Vent's hair is more closer to the EXE Rockman. (Obvious mullets)
I can see some similarity but both of their hair colors are different:
Vent: brown
Rockman EXE: black (with the exception of course of Full Synchronization).
Also...has anyone noticed that Model A is the only Live Metal without a crystal? (Look at the bolt thats replaced it D:) It's a reference to the time when Axl got faced by Lumine and had his crystal broken (explanation to how he is affected by the little shard Lumine gives him <AIDS> and that he seems fine during Command Mission is beyond my reasoning).
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Actually X has brown hair AND green eyes (like Vent/Aile).
X has never taken his helmet off, so we wouldn't know about his hair color. unless there's official art out there of him helmet less.
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Nope, there ain't. I have heard people claim he takes off his helmet in one of Iwamoto's manga.
However, over at Capcom-FC one time the staff responded to how they pictured each character's hairs should look like. Shame it's all in japanese and it's over 3 years old, so it is going to be tough to find it.
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This (http://www.drneko.com/scanlation/rmseries/rmx/manga/rmx1v2/e/x1chapter9.php?Result_Set=61) is probably the only time hes taken his helmet off, and even then, they dont show us what he looks like without it. I mean, look at eagle and Zero's expressions. theyre so shocked he can even take it off!
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I don't remember which of the mangas it would be, but the person who had claimed that said it wasn't X1. I think he said X4, but it's been well over 7 years.
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Also...has anyone noticed that Model A is the only Live Metal without a crystal?
Model A is also the only one with armor instead of gauntlets, boots, and a vest. -_-
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true dat.
I don't remember which of the mangas it would be, but the person who had claimed that said it wasn't X1. I think he said X4, but it's been well over 7 years.
Ive always wanted to read the X4 Manga... ive seen bits of it over at Mechadrake assemblies, but not much. I know for a fact that Iris tells Zero something about the original Megaman. which sounds like would be interesting.
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This (http://www.drneko.com/scanlation/rmseries/rmx/manga/rmx1v2/e/x1chapter9.php?Result_Set=61) is probably the only time hes taken his helmet off, and even then, they dont show us what he looks like without it. I mean, look at eagle and Zero's expressions. theyre so shocked he can even take it off!
Except for the other time when he takes off his first armor helmet only to reveal the regular helmet as having materialized underneath.
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X has never taken his helmet off, so we wouldn't know about his hair color. unless there's official art out there of him helmet less.
There is an image of a helmet less X in R20, though I've been told it was only used as reference material for designing the Bandai model kits.
No hair underneath, just a smooth head of metal.
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I can see some similarity but both of their hair colors are different:
Vent: brown
Rockman EXE: black (with the exception of course of Full Synchronization).
Also...has anyone noticed that Model A is the only Live Metal without a crystal? (Look at the bolt thats replaced it D:) It's a reference to the time when Axl got faced by Lumine and had his crystal broken (explanation to how he is affected by the little shard Lumine gives him <AIDS> and that he seems fine during Command Mission is beyond my reasoning).
Model A has a crystal. The "bolt" on the helmet opens up to reveal a bright blue gem when A-Trans is used. The crystal is also seen briefly in the cutscene of Grey/Ashe megamerging for the first time.
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Except for the other time when he takes off his first armor helmet only to reveal the regular helmet as having materialized underneath.
Holy [parasitic bomb].
There is an image of a helmet less X in R20, though I've been told it was only used as reference material for designing the Bandai model kits.
No hair underneath, just a smooth head of metal.
well, going by the designs of helmetless X and Zero, which show them as having metal plates and [parasitic bomb] under the helmet, Inafune DID say that that wasnt meant to mean they had no hair.
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Like Protodude said, that was just a reference for Bandai to use when making their model kits.
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Not exactly, Zero's design is after all featured in X4 scenes. X5 though redesigned doesn't disagree with the concept as drawn by Inafune. They do look like that without the helmet, but all the same, they're not bald either. The helmets are integrated with the skull, but can be removed to reveal hair, or surgically removed to reveal the circuitry of the helmet attaching to the skull.
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So the hair is there when they want it to be?
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So the hair is there when they want it to be?
Havent you Played Zero 3?
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Omega is... special. In many ways. I don't trust anything about him to hold for any other reploid.
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Except Zero maybe.
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Barely, if then. Maybe Dark Elf gives him the power to materialize hair!
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His copy body is based on his original body.
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What? So?
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However, over at Capcom-FC one time the staff responded to how they pictured each character's hairs should look like. Shame it's all in japanese and it's over 3 years old, so it is going to be tough to find it.
IIRC, it was only talking about X's hair, and they didn't actually answer the question because different staff members pictured his hair differently so it's a mystery even to them since they never really decided on one.
I don't remember which of the mangas it would be, but the person who had claimed that said it wasn't X1. I think he said X4, but it's been well over 7 years.
It was X4, well, sort of. X4's run was cut short, condensing several chapters' worth of story down to 2. When Book-ing recollected the X series mangas into 5 volumes, Iwamoto added several new pages of story and commemorative mini-comics into the compilations. At the end of the X4 chapters he added a short X8-themed epilogue, the last picture of which is X standing and holding his helmet. The sun is shining right over his face, so only part of his head's silhouette is shown, but you can see what very much looks like hair on his head. That was done in 2005 though.
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IIRC, it was only talking about X's hair, and they didn't actually answer the question because different staff members pictured his hair differently so it's a mystery even to them since they never really decided on one.
I think I remember the others thrown in as well, but no way to be sure. That's what the translator I sent to had told me, either way.
It was X4, well, sort of. X4's run was cut short, condensing several chapters' worth of story down to 2. When Book-ing recollected the X series mangas into 5 volumes, Iwamoto added several new pages of story and commemorative mini-comics into the compilations. At the end of the X4 chapters he added a short X8-themed epilogue, the last picture of which is X standing and holding his helmet. The sun is shining right over his face, so only part of his head's silhouette is shown, but you can see what very much looks like hair on his head. That was done in 2005 though.
The problem with that; the person described that exact scene (except being X8 of course) in 2001.
I want a time machine too.
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Now that would be some pretty impressive precognition. You're sure somebody said that way back when? I guess they could be talking about some other similar image I'm unaware of, but it wasn't included in the manga compilations of the 90s, it would have been some outside promotional image. But the book clearly cites that epilogue to 2005, which is nearly the earliest time it could be for its use of the X8 characters. I'd heard a lot of rumors about X4's manga, like people who claimed Cain was shown dying in it, which he is not. Maybe that was some rumor that managed to eventually hit the mark... Unlikely as that would seem. But maybe that pose in general (X standing, holding helmet, can't see his face) isn't that original. Anything more accurate than that, though, seems very curious.
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Stretching it, the most it could have been said was circa the beginning of 2003. Reeeeally stretching it. 2002 is still a fair margin of error. The events for these dates are inexorably linked. Those who lived the days of lore might know why.
Even so, there weren't repritings to include such a scene that for the looks of it happened to be absent in the first place, so...
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The events for these dates are inexorably linked. Those who lived the days of lore might know why.
Enough beating around the bush, I'm curious already. What's the story?
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Enough beating around the bush, I'm curious already. What's the story?
Oh, there ain't anything groundbreaking like people might be figuring. One of the parts involved in the discussion was Boco. Some will know what I'm talking about. Those who don't aren't missing out on anything.
But it wasn't Boco who said that about the X4 manga, it was some other person I fail to remember now.