RockmanPM Forums
Other Things => Gaming => Topic started by: Bueno Excelente on July 04, 2010, 02:11:52 AM
-
Aw-right, people. Dis be a rage topic. READ THIS ENTIRE POST BEFORE POSTING PLEASE.
INFURIATING gameplay-based moments of the games you played but then RAGED at a detail which made your life more annoying that one day. Can be a staple of many games, can be a staple of one single game, but I'd prefer it if it was one of those moments which people have normally experienced, common moments to games overall. Include screenshots if you want. Try to post stuff people know, but not cliché crap. Everyone knows the Water Temple. Everyone knows the Battletoads sequence. Make it so you show people ACTUAL gameplay flaws, not pure challenges but crap that just should NOT be there by gaming standards.
Alright, let's begin.
-----------------------
Games that have enemies giving you constant damage at a higher speed than the speed you get up after being knocked down. We've all experienced this. Main character takes a hit, main character falls down. Nothing wrong with that. But RIGHT as soon as the main character gets up again, he falls down AGAIN without giving you a single chance to escape from the damage you've just been dealt, because the enemy is shooting, punching or whatevering you really quick. And you have no choice but to watch your character constantly get hit by the enemy and slowly watch its health being drained without having a chance to escape, UNTIL a moment presents itself in which your button imput is relevant again and you walk away with a minuscule amount of health because of pure stupid game design.
Give feedback and leave your own, people!
-
Lookie here:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRIcUFq4-tw[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1GqaOiw6wI[/youtube]
-
Lookie here:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRIcUFq4-tw[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1GqaOiw6wI[/youtube]
Explain what you're annoyed by instead of just posting some damn videos, will you?
-
Those should actually deter me but now I'm strangely even more compelled to get that Frontier pack, thanks acey x3
-
Mario Kart Wii, 150cc (Grand Prix and VS), the fact that there are too many item boxes and the frequency of powerful items in 150cc. Also, When you're in first place and you get hit, at least half of your opponents will pass you. No further explanation is necessary.
-
Here's something that pisses me off, and it's just for fighting games in general. When you and and the computer trigger your signature moves at the same time, or you do first, and, instead of yours hitting or the attacks canceling each other out, the computer's attack always hits. I would show what I'm talking about, but I don't have the necessary tech to get an example recorded and put up.
-
Games that manage to still have sections with forced camera angles that suck. How are we supposed to make a proper jump if we can't even judge the jump well in the first place?
-
Games that manage to still have sections with forced camera angles that suck. How are we supposed to make a proper jump if we can't even judge the jump well in the first place?
Certain camera-angled games actually make those bits easier. It's what Mario Galaxy nailed really well. The perfect angles to do platforming in.
-
Pretty much only multiplayer games in which I'm playing with friends or online with a team of people, ala Halo. Otherwise nothing.
-
Here's something that pisses me off, and it's just for fighting games in general. When you and and the computer trigger your signature moves at the same time, or you do first, and, instead of yours hitting or the attacks canceling each other out, the computer's attack always hits. I would show what I'm talking about, but I don't have the necessary tech to get an example recorded and put up.
It happens for a good reason in most games. Never heard of countering?
-
It happens for a good reason in most games. Never heard of countering?
No, it happens when you CAN'T counter.
-
The point being that the CPU is countering YOU. Not the other way around.
-
The point being that the CPU is countering YOU. Not the other way around.
[objection!]
If you launch your attack first on a 2D fighting game, either your attack should hit before theirs can launch or they should cancel out rather than their attack blasting through yours and hitting you.
-
It happens for a good reason in most games. Never heard of countering?
I tried to counter multipule times, but I always can't find that damn button. >.>
Areas otherwise inaccessable to lesser skilled players, sometimes that can really [acid burst] me off. Like the time I had to USE A SAVE to get past the gates of the Last Cave nearly drove me nuts to no end.
RPGs are known for grinding, but Bioware's games are infamous for their longer grinding times that most RPGs, it's like you have to take trips back in forth in Sonic Chronicles and/or Neverwinter Nights to a town for an enemy to RESPAWN and touch you to enter a battle. Hhhrgh.
-
[objection!]
If you launch your attack first on a 2D fighting game, either your attack should hit before theirs can launch or they should cancel out rather than their attack blasting through yours and hitting you.
Not all games are the same way. The attack type also depends on the collision behavior. For instance. You mentioned 'signature' move, which I could imagine you may be referring to supers. Some games treat supers as attacks with invincible frames at their beginning. In this case it would only make sense that the first to initiate it would be the last one in the invincible period, and thus be damaged. Some games have even more tiers for attack effect types and clashes.
-
NEW icons that will remain for an eternity in item menus/journal entries.
-
Pretty much only multiplayer games in which I'm playing with friends or online with a team of people, ala Halo. Otherwise nothing.
...I missed what actually bothers you in those games.
I tried to counter multipule times, but I always can't find that damn button. >.>
Areas otherwise inaccessable to lesser skilled players, sometimes that can really [acid burst] me off. Like the time I had to USE A SAVE to get past the gates of the Last Cave nearly drove me nuts to no end.
RPGs are known for grinding, but Bioware's games are infamous for their longer grinding times that most RPGs, it's like you have to take trips back in forth in Sonic Chronicles and/or Neverwinter Nights to a town for an enemy to RESPAWN and touch you to enter a battle. Hhhrgh.
Funnily, I've played a ton of RPGs in all of my life, and I consider Bioware's RPGs the least-grindable ones. Play KOTOR, Jade Empire, Mass Effect, Baldur's Gate, Dragon Age... All of those games, you never need to grind ONCE. Sonic Chronicles was the only RPG they've done JRPG-style, and it was done by a new team, but although it had its fair share of problems, I didn't do any grinding. And Neverwinter Nights was more meant as a D&D PC playset than an actual game in itself, to be honest.
I do hate grinding in RPGs. It's what turns me off from RPGs in the first place. But Bioware's my favorite company, specially because I think they don't make RPGs like that. Hell, I think it's impossible to grind in some of their games.
-
I do hate grinding in RPGs. It's what turns me off from RPGs in the first place. But Bioware's my favorite company, specially because I think they don't make RPGs like that. Hell, I think it's impossible to grind in some of their games.
Well, I think I remember spending DAYS to level up Goofy to Sora's level in Kingdom Hearts, and having all my Pokemon in others to match other's levels longer. Also, I forgot NWN was like that. :P
I consider Dragon Age to be EA property.. unless that was another RPG with "Dragon" within the title. But yeah, it kinda felt long, like both Izuna games. some take waay too long to level and you level in SECONDS.
Plus I felt that way because I didn't have Omega in my party earlier in the game, he's sorta the "Massimo" scenario. Cheap, easy to level up, and effective.
-
Well, I think I remember spending DAYS to level up Goofy to Sora's level in Kingdom Hearts, and having all my Pokemon in others to match other's levels longer. Also, I forgot NWN was like that. :P
I consider Dragon Age to be EA property.. unless that was another RPG with "Dragon" within the title. But yeah, it kinda felt long, like both Izuna games. some take waay too long to level and you level in SECONDS.
Plus I felt that way because I didn't have Omega in my party earlier in the game, he's sorta the "Massimo" scenario. Cheap, easy to level up, and effective.
Levelling up in Kingdom Hearts is a non-issue unless you want all of the extra stuff, I think. You just have to take your own time exploring the game instead of rushing through the beautiful scenery like an impatient mofo, and you'll be fine in terms of levelling. Heck, in KH2, Donald and Goofy are always one level ahead of you, something which has bothered me quite alot. =P
As for Dragon Age, it is PURE Bioware. The purest. It's the closest thing to Baldur's Gate they put out, and in a way, possibly their best RPG yet.
But yeah, Neverwinter Nights isn't meant to be a single player RPG, but more of a toolset to build D&D campaigns with all your options. Heck, do you know how Bioware hires writers? They have people send them D&D campaigns written in Neverwinter.
-
I've always been one level from them for some reason... but then again, Dragon Age was produced by EA. :P
-
Certain camera-angled games actually make those bits easier. It's what Mario Galaxy nailed really well. The perfect angles to do platforming in.
Well yeah... hence why I specified ones that suck :P (for example Sonic Unleashed)
-
I've always been one level from them for some reason... but then again, Dragon Age was produced by EA. :P
It remains a Bioware product, specially since it's been in development for YEARS before the EA buy.
Well yeah... hence why I specified ones that suck :P (for example Sonic Unleashed)
That kinda reminds me of those games that suddenly have that tiny camera icon that says I can't move my camera here or there whenever I push the right analog. And sometimes, it's in tough parts. I never understood why, but those camera angles always suck in certain games. Devil May Cry, for example, has awful angles for platforming. Heck, awful jumping controls while we're at it. It's stupid that only Bayonetta actually evolved that kind of jumping.
-
Mario Kart Wii, replaying 150cc enough times to *FINALLY* overcome the constant item nuking and get that damn 60-point perfect score, and STILL not making the one-star Rank for some God-forsaken reason.
At this point I consider it perfectly fair and reasonable to hack infinite Star Mans.
-
...I missed what actually bothers you in those games.
Just the usual random things that can happen during multiplayer and such that cost you while playing, or playing objectives in Halo and some idiot can't jump on the elephant to get the flag. Nothing really specific. I don't even get that mad over it either.
I mean, it's a [tornado fang]ing video game.
-
Hmm... oh I got a good one.
Falling down, only to have your character slowly get up and waste time or [tornado fang] you up if you were trying to get behind a closing door or beat a time limit. Or collect something that blows up. (E.G. X7, Zero needs to stop taking [tornado fang]ing naps and GET UP. I've lost countless Reploids (and Nerves, because I always reset the game, which takes way too long.) because of that.)
A variation of this is getting hit in midair, which locks your movement to whatever the direction of the attack that hit you is. Only to not be able to recover (e.g. ANY 3D Mario.)
-
It's not TOO annoying, but I know this bugs other people:
Smash Bros. Brawl, gettings booted to the dark void of nothingness. Kids, always remember to play at least one local match before going online with hacks enabled. XD
-
I can't think of anything that pisses me off in any games.
-
The only thing bugging me is a screwy camera.
-
How about when you make it over to a hard to reach platform, and then through some flaw of physics you fall off of a perfectly flat surface to your doom?
RAAAAAAAAAGE!!
-
Better yet. This happened to me in The Force Unleashed today.
There is this level on this plant planet, where everything is giant mushrooms and the sort. This game pretty much loves to put little physics effects on everything in order to make it look impressive. The gameplay suffers for it alot, because there are inaccessible areas everywhere, which prefer to bug out instead of having invisible walls for us to know we're not supposed to go there.
I see a holocron in a higher platform, jump into this plant platform that's supposed to help me, it BUGS OUT, rubber-bands somehow, stretching to ridiculously buggy proportions, and it catapults my character to the roof where he gets stuck. I have to restart from the damn checkpoint.
-
I have to mention it again.
Perfect Cherry Blossom, maybe other Touhou too. You can clear a spellcard, heck, you can finish whole game, and still get a Game Over. After defeating an attack, all bullets on the screen change into items to give you a nice score bonus. BUT there is a short delay between finishing a boss and bullets' change. During those few frames bullets can still hurt you, and it counts at your disadvantage. It hurts when you clear the game, and then you lose your very last life 8D
(http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/7629/pcbfail.jpg)
-
During a round of a new game + on Crisis Core I went through an entire mission, no one not even hurting me. Then the boss approaches, does it's unblockable special attack, trapping me in a and spamming magic on me. And my cockiness made me not go to any save points.
Ah and in Summon Night 2 I got to the final dungeon, I was told I was close to the end. Then a puzzle, a long one which made me not know when I would get to the ginal boss, and since there aren't any save points and there was no "Are you ready for the final battle?" equaled me having to do the puzzle all over again, a long boring and frustrating one.
Tales Of Symphonia Dawn of the New World had a frog boss with a looong health bar, it didn't do much damage but it had an unlimited supply of healing and it was [sonic slicer] to take down.
-
*snip*
Personally, I don't think this is bad game design. It demands careful playing is all. It could even happen to you in Castlevania: Rondo of Blood if you got too careless. >_>;
-
Personally, I don't think this is bad game design. It demands careful playing is all. It could even happen to you in Castlevania: Rondo of Blood if you got too careless. >_>;
How is it not bad level design to have your life bar completely depleted because the game let the enemy attack faster than you can get up? That basically is one-hit kill, only you have to sit there and watch your character slowly die instead of dying outright. And even more recent games have that, which is unexcuseable. A game stops being challenging and starts being BAD when instead of fighting the enemies and challenges in the game, you have to withstand the bullshit provided by the badly coded game engine.
-
(http://images.crispygamer.com/public/jerks/090818_jerks_bird.jpg)
Anyone that played the original Ninja Gaiden should know what I mean. [tornado fang] those birds.
Also, that damn mind reading AI in the early fighting games, how I hate that so much...
-
(http://images.crispygamer.com/public/jerks/090818_jerks_bird.jpg)
Anyone that played the original Ninja Gaiden should know what I mean. [tornado fang] those birds.
Also, that damn mind reading AI in the early fighting games, how I hate that so much...
Also known as the medusa head problem in Castlevania. =P
-
WHEN I THINK I SAVED THE PRINCESS BUT SHE'S IN ANOTHER GODDAMN CASTLE.
-
Also known as the medusa head problem in Castlevania. =P
Oh god. Jumping off a platform and getting hit/turned into stone by one of them, falling to the bottom of the area, and having to retrace your steps ALL [tornado fang]ing over again.
Though i wouldn't say it pissed me off, just really frustrating. They're not NEARLY as bad as the Eggplant Wizards from Kid Icarus.
-
Okay, something that really pisses me off. Obligatory boss runs at the end of games. I can understand the need for filler, but REALLY? After each boss is supposed to be a challenge, you're making us fight all of them as if they were recycled enemies? It really pisses me off. Specially since such a thing could be placed as an optional challenge in the menu after beating the whole game. Boss runs are really fun if you're in the mood, but making them forced on you ruins everything.
-
In general, that doesn't bug me. Boss rematches, done correctly, show how much you've grown since the beginning of the game. But even if you have no problems with boss runs, they can still go wrong. MMPU and ZXA's Hard Mode (DAMN YOU CHRONOFORCE) come to mind.
-
MMPU and ZXA's Hard Mode (DAMN YOU CHRONOFORCE) come to mind.
Personally, I didin't have a problem with Chronoforce in hard mode. Just need to spam Model F charge shot and yer good to go. The only thing that pisses me off about RPGs back in the day is the lack of a [tornado fang]ing map. Jesus Christ.
-
In general, that doesn't bug me. Boss rematches, done correctly, show how much you've grown since the beginning of the game. But even if you have no problems with boss runs, they can still go wrong. MMPU and ZXA's Hard Mode (DAMN YOU CHRONOFORCE) come to mind.
It's still general repetition. Repetition of events in a game is never good. It's using supposedly previous important events as filler.
-
Now that you mention it, the genral treatment of the bosses in Megaman games makes me sad. It´s almost like they are no part of the story, they are just there to steal time for the main baddie to finish his evil deeds. I am not making this up, the villains outright state it!
-
I usually don't mind boss runs at the end all that much, although it did kind of bug me in Okami. It just didn't feel right.
-
I love game bosses. They're basically the "enemies you can take seriously". The enemies which are an actual challenge, and you have to outsmart them and find out their tactic. Boss runs which are an actual part of a game, although showing how evolved you are in the game, cheapens the bosses themselves. Makes them less-important pieces of a bigger puzzle instead of individual challenges you can look at and be amazed by.
-
Well, in a MegaMan game, and most especially the X-series, you're playing as characters who are infamous for growing more powerful as they fight. In that context I find it only fitting. I suppose, in a game where the focus is more on the journey than on the powering up, there would be issues.
The only thing that pisses me off about RPGs back in the day is the lack of a [tornado fang]ing map.
Oh jeez, I'd forgotten about that. Dragon Warrior 2 still haunts me.
-
Dead Rising pissed me off when I was in the middle of playing it and realized that it was the Legends engine with zombies and a guy who can't even come close to the running speed of Trigger. That pissed me off, I was like: "They made THIS [parasitic bomb] before Legends 3?! Don't they already have a GOOD zombie series called Resident Evil?! WTF?!" Then i quit playing because of the god awful save game setup. When you have to redo the last three hours of a game because you spent lots of time killing zombies on the other side of the mall, it gets old.
-
That freaking last platform where the boss shutter is in top man's stage
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFU- O:<
(http://s4.postimage.org/18BL9.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aV18BL9)
-
Dead Rising pissed me off when I was in the middle of playing it and realized that it was the Legends engine with zombies and a guy who can't even come close to the running speed of Trigger. That pissed me off, I was like: "They made THIS [parasitic bomb] before Legends 3?! Don't they already have a GOOD zombie series called Resident Evil?! WTF?!" Then i quit playing because of the god awful save game setup. When you have to redo the last three hours of a game because you spent lots of time killing zombies on the other side of the mall, it gets old.
Dude, you're supposed to cut through the enemies with a guy with human running speed. =P It's a survival game, and it's pretty damn good. I do agree that the save game setup is bad, but the gameplay is supposed to be like that. It's a game where the enemies are the obstacles in the first place. =P You shouldn't spend too much time killing them, you're supposed to cut through them to your objective. Well, that and have fun.
-
Another thing that pisses me off in fighting games, when you're about to win the fight, the CPU turns around and whups your butt with no problem.
-
^ Fighting games have CPU? I wouldn't know. I always play human players like you're supposed to. :V
Anyways, not so much as pissed off about it, but more disappointed. Silhouette Mirage. Oh god Silhouette Mirage... I really want to like this game, I really do. But... this game is just plain not fun. Like, holy [parasitic bomb]. It's not so much an action game as it is a braindead beat 'em up. And that's saying a lot considering how brainless they already are.
-
That freaking last platform where the boss shutter is in top man's stage
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFU- O:<
(http://s4.postimage.org/18BL9.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aV18BL9)
...no offense, but how do mets not eat you alive?
-
When you and an enemy make contact, you get hurt.
This never made sense to me. What if I want to shove my enemy? Is that not allowed? Why must I suffer to that end? [tornado fang] YOU.
-
Another thing that pisses me off in fighting games, when you're about to win the fight, the CPU turns around and whups your butt with no problem.
RRROOOCCCKKKYYY BBAAAAOOOBBBBBBBBOOAAAA!!!!! DX
Oh, get this. In RPGs, the bosses do the exact same turnaround pattern too! It's annoying, especially against a certain Midboss in Disgaea. Freakin' 1UPs me.. hrrg..
-
Oh, get this. In RPGs, the bosses do the exact same turnaround pattern too! It's annoying, especially against a certain Midboss in Disgaea. Freakin' 1UPs me.. hrrg..
Wait, you've been beaten by Midboss? Well, he does enable restart bonuses earlier if you lose to him.
-
When you and an enemy make contact, you get hurt.
This never made sense to me. What if I want to shove my enemy? Is that not allowed? Why must I suffer to that end? [tornado fang] YOU.
More recent games fix that. And Wario games do that RIGHT. Always liked that in them.
-
When you and an enemy make contact, you get hurt.
This never made sense to me. What if I want to shove my enemy? Is that not allowed? Why must I suffer to that end? [tornado fang] YOU.
This in Spades. The only time I could understand touching an enemy and getting hurt is when:
A: They're attacking you somehow
Or
B: They have Spikes, or some sort of electric barrier.
Never once have I understood how ANYBODY can die from touching:
A: Something rounded and plush (i.e. Kirby enemies with a few exceptions. Sleeping enemy is a big offender.)
B: Something that isn't even moving (i.e. Standalone Turrets with no sort of shield or anything, inactive enemies, Shotzos from (again) Kirby.)
C: Shields, I mean, is it made of fire? How the hell can enemy shields hurt me yet my shield doesn't affect them one bit? (i.e. Mettaurs, Sniper Joes, Some Zelda enemies.)
D: Standing 2-3 pixels away from an enemy means pain? Why? (i.e. any game where collision fields are TOO [tornado fang]ing LARGE.)
Its like the developers are saying "[tornado fang] you for touching an enemy, instead of letting you be a bully and push it around you're going to get attacked and maybe lose something too."
But, as Superbat said, its been getting better, not by much but its improving. Of course Wario games are a neat perk to this, seeing as you can push your enemies around, but thats part of how the game is run. It fits for the playstyle.
I'd like to put a (dis)honorable mention for getting hit by an enemy, falling fowards (or backwards) and sitting on the edge, thinking you would be able to get up, only for the game to make you fall down from whatever you were on (i.e. ANY 3D Mario game, hell, most 3D games have this problem.)
-
The entire premise of Mario Kart: Double Dash (although I have never played it). I mean, what the hell was Nintendo thinking? It's useless and counterproductive; I don't know why most people favor THIS over Mario Kart Wii (although Wii sucked also because of the CPU). I mean, you have two characters, one for driving and another to use items. You can't tell me with a straight face that that is not a shitty concept for a Mario Kart game. The other character is useless. Don't bother. You already have ONE character who can do both.
Also, the Golden Mushroom and the Triple Shells were assigned to Toad/Toadette and Koopa Troopa/Paratroopa as unique items respectively? Come on. And the Blue Shell has been gimped so that it only hits the character in first place. And the Fake Item Box has been gimped to the point of no return. [chameleon sting]ing A.
And one last thing: The karts look retarded, and their names are retarded. THIS is easily the worst Mario Kart game of all time.
If this looks like a rant to you or it belongs to another topic, then notify me.
-
I dunno. Nothing really pisses me off mid-game. When I'm playing a game, and I get to a certain point I just like it. I find that complaining about a game after so many hours of playing it is just being a hater because things didn't go your way. Case and point: Peoples complaints about Star Ocean 3.
-
The final Event Match in SSBB. Try to beat it on hard. you die, and die, and die.
-
The final Event Match in SSBB. Try to beat it on hard. you die, and die, and die.
I did it pretty easily.
Now that Monkeys Unite one, where you play as a normal sized Diddy who has the strength and weight of a Mini Sized Character, was a pain in the ass.
Never before has a shitty recolor of Mewtwo (I use Riivolution exclusively when playing this game.) been able to rip me apart by grabbing Diddy and Pelvic thrusting him into the sky.
So [tornado fang]ing annoying.
-
The purple coins from the first Super Mario Galaxy got on my nerves. The coins are scattered about in weird places, and you get a ridiculous time limit. UGH.
-
The Monster Ock chase on Spider Man PSX/N64. The chase is too freaking long, Monster ock sounds creepy and It'll Hurt your fingers. Jump, Web swing, Hit wall, Turn in other direction, Repeat.
-
The final Event Match in SSBB. Try to beat it on hard. you die, and die, and die.
Must be just you.
-
Really? Wow. Good thing I already kicked your ass all over Wi-fi, or I'd feel bad about now.
Mario's cape in general pisses me off, much less when he's giant-sized in the last Brawl event. O:< So does ROB's Final Smash, and basically everything about Toon Link.
-
Mario's cape in general pisses me off, much less when he's giant-sized in the last Brawl event.
And his forward smash and forward aireal
-
I dunno. Nothing really pisses me off mid-game. When I'm playing a game, and I get to a certain point I just like it. I find that complaining about a game after so many hours of playing it is just being a hater because things didn't go your way. Case and point: Peoples complaints about Star Ocean 3.
You're acting as if a game is perfect all the way if it starts good. There's always games with frustrqating bits. The rotating platforms in God of War, the money-making parts in Shenmue 2, the Water Temple in OOT... All games have their frustrating parts which [acid burst] people off sooner or later.
This in Spades. The only time I could understand touching an enemy and getting hurt is when:
A: They're attacking you somehow
Or
B: They have Spikes, or some sort of electric barrier.
Never once have I understood how ANYBODY can die from touching:
A: Something rounded and plush (i.e. Kirby enemies with a few exceptions. Sleeping enemy is a big offender.)
B: Something that isn't even moving (i.e. Standalone Turrets with no sort of shield or anything, inactive enemies, Shotzos from (again) Kirby.)
C: Shields, I mean, is it made of fire? How the hell can enemy shields hurt me yet my shield doesn't affect them one bit? (i.e. Mettaurs, Sniper Joes, Some Zelda enemies.)
D: Standing 2-3 pixels away from an enemy means pain? Why? (i.e. any game where collision fields are TOO [tornado fang]ing LARGE.)
Its like the developers are saying "[tornado fang] you for touching an enemy, instead of letting you be a bully and push it around you're going to get attacked and maybe lose something too."
But, as Superbat said, its been getting better, not by much but its improving. Of course Wario games are a neat perk to this, seeing as you can push your enemies around, but thats part of how the game is run. It fits for the playstyle.
I'd like to put a (dis)honorable mention for getting hit by an enemy, falling fowards (or backwards) and sitting on the edge, thinking you would be able to get up, only for the game to make you fall down from whatever you were on (i.e. ANY 3D Mario game, hell, most 3D games have this problem.)
As games go on, I think you'll find it hard to find a recent 3D game which still does this. Even in really hard games, enemies hurt you only when they attack, which is always a good thing. Aside from franchises which have it established, like Mario, where it'd seem kinda wrong if Goombas didn't kill you.
As games go, aside from games where it's logical that enemies will kill you at a touch (like schmups) and games which are either revivals or established franchises (Sonic, Mario, the recent Rocket Knight or Contra classics...), I don't think games will use that old logic again. We've evolved out of that with the dawn of 3D. And that's good.
-
To this day I still don't understand why the Water Temple pissed people off in OoT.
-
To this day I still don't understand why the Water Temple pissed people off in OoT.
I think it's because, for most of the temple, the only weapon you get to use is the hookshot/longshot.
-
I think it's because, for most of the temple, the only weapon you get to use is the hookshot/longshot.
....and that pisses people off?
-
....and that pisses people off?
Well, it's just I guess. Personally, it's my favorite level.
-
To this day I still don't understand why the Water Temple pissed people off in OoT.
[tornado fang]ing WATER LEVELS
HOW DO THEY WORK
-
You're acting as if a game is perfect all the way if it starts good. There's always games with frustrqating bits. The rotating platforms in God of War, the money-making parts in Shenmue 2, the Water Temple in OOT... All games have their frustrating parts which [acid burst] people off sooner or later.
I never minded the Water Temple in OOT. It was the easiest for me to get around even. The platforms in God of War are a matter of timing, and I've never played SHenmue 2, nor heard of it before now. It's not that I treat a game as if it's perfect, you misunderstood and twisted what I said. If I like a game, six hours to eleven hours in and had a good time, I fail to see why I'd be pissed at it for one part. Rather than get pissed off, I rather keep my cool, sit, think and solve the problem. I dunno, I like insolvable puzzles, so I guess that's where my patience comes from. But yeah, a large number of people who pick up a game these days will boot it up, judge it from start to finish by nitpicking little things that [acid burst] them off. I find it counter productive is all.
-
Online Team Brawls where you notice that your teammate is some garbage or isn't playing. Basically it's a two-on-one fight, which isn't so bad unless the other two are actually GOOD. Also, online random Brawls (or any Smash for that matter) where the others agree to double/triple team you in mid-game because they're pissy (Usually because you've been kicking their collective rear for two and a half matches, then they just go "GET 'IM!" and you're like "...well ain't this a...")
Also, lining up a killshot and then taking a shotgun from behind before firing. Though it's kinda hypocritical, I love shotguns myself.
Gill.
Serene Grace paraflinchers, Garchomp, Salamence, uber-noobs on PBR (Not because they're challenging, but rather because they aren't), and pretty much anytime I lose a match because Stone Edge missed.
Striderine combo in MvC1. Also in general being caught in an infinite. Though I just came full-circle and just grabbed a book to read after each occurrence.
Wi-fi/online boots. Sudden lag spikes count too.
The once-in-a-million occurrence of an Instant Kill move actually hitting me in Accent Core. I had a streak going too...For that matter, having your streak ended by dumb luck.
Think I'll stop there.
-
I never minded the Water Temple in OOT. It was the easiest for me to get around even. The platforms in God of War are a matter of timing, and I've never played SHenmue 2, nor heard of it before now. It's not that I treat a game as if it's perfect, you misunderstood and twisted what I said. If I like a game, six hours to eleven hours in and had a good time, I fail to see why I'd be pissed at it for one part. Rather than get pissed off, I rather keep my cool, sit, think and solve the problem. I dunno, I like insolvable puzzles, so I guess that's where my patience comes from. But yeah, a large number of people who pick up a game these days will boot it up, judge it from start to finish by nitpicking little things that [acid burst] them off. I find it counter productive is all.
You have missed the point of the topic itself. There's all kinds of people, but if you insist on being a damn Vulcan when playing a game, I'm talking about frustrating parts in games. Harder parts which break the flow of the game somehow. What pisses you off, isn't just meant to be taken with a dictionary definition. You don't need to rage and shout and throw controllers at the wall to find those parts in games. Instead of criticizing people who find faults in games, you should either not post in a topic you have no point posting, or tell us parts of games which you find frustrating or hard to get through. And you're counting pure challenges as these parts. No, I never said that. Let me quote my entry post, the one you should have READ in the first place:
Make it so you show people ACTUAL gameplay flaws, not pure challenges but crap that just should NOT be there by gaming standards.
People have different standards from each other, but I find it very hard to believe that you have never experienced one single frustrating part in any game you've ever played. Or any part of a game you didn't LIKE because you didn't think it fit in the game itself. This isn't about people's moods, it's about the damn games. So either shut up about how you can find hard parts so fun and everyone else is just raging, or post something.
-
Gill.
Haha, true. Gill is fairly difficulty, though now I am able to crush him on hardest without much worry.
-
online random Brawls
I have only one problem with online random Brawls:
THERE ARE OTHER STAGES BESIDES FINAL DESTINATION.
Garchomp, Salamence
My Dragonite will destroy you.
pretty much anytime I lose a match because Stone Edge missed.
This is why I hate tourneyfag communities in Pokemon: 80% accuracy is *NOT* the be-all end-all of physical sweeping.
Speaking of getting accuracy screwed: Fire Emblem. When I miss on an 80-something and the enemy hits on a 60-something. Twice.
-
I have only one problem with online random Brawls:
THERE ARE OTHER STAGES BESIDES FINAL DESTINATION.
Of course there are not. No fun allowed. No items. Stock 3. Fox only. Final Destination. Whoever plays in any other style, does not play Brawl THE WAY IT WAS INTENDED TO BE PLAYED.
Aw, man. I know several of those guys. They rage so much when I pick something like Poke Floats. 8D
Back on topic, let's see... oh, right.
"Aw, man. This is the coolest boss ever."
"Holy crap look at what I'm doing, I'm kicking his ass!"
"Oh, man. It's gonna be so sweet to deliver this last combo into his face!"
"Almost there... almost there... almo..."
(QTE SEQUENCE)
"FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU"
-
My Dragonite will destroy you.
Really? I thought it was your Mewtwo. =P
Play me again sometime, though, I'm bored.
Also, bats and anything/everything meant to screw up platform jumping.
-
Really? I thought it was your Mewtwo. =P
Well, here's something else which pisses me off mid-game:
Mewtwo has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING that functions in a Double Battle. He is really freaking awesome but he is a stand-alone fighter to the core. HG/SS looked to offer some relief with a Role Play/Me First combo.
Wait, what, you can't Me First your teammates?
F*@$#!!!!
-
Every Psychic can Skill Swap, dude. You can do plenty with a well-timed Swap.
Just cuz it's not there on paper doesn't mean it's not there. Also, he can Gravity, blow himself up, cause massive freezing with Blizzard if beside an Abomasnow, blow himself up; etc
Not to mention other crap he could do with Drizzle and Drought out. That ginormous Sp. Atk will get you somewhere...
-
Pretty much none of that is applicable to my team, though. Skill Swap is basically made for Slaking, and I use neither him nor Abomasnow.
I have no need of a(nother) Self Destructor and Mewtwo is an average user of it anyway, since a -Attack Nature is the most beneficial to him.
I use only one Uber as my "flagship" Pokemon and as such Drizzle/Drought combos are not feasible for me. Further, there are better Pokemon to take advantage of either condition.
Gravity is a situational gimmick, and such a vulnerable setup is ill-suited to a Pokemon who, by Uber standards at least, is not particularly bulky. When you bring a lone Uber into Doubles, you're more often than not painting a giant bull's-eye on their butt, and you need to be weary of that.
Mewtwo hits hard and fast, and he's awesome at it, but his move selection is clearly catered to one-on-one. He has a hard time achieving synergy with a partner, especially in any way which can be called uniquely his own.
-
Still even though Mewtwo is a more deadly as a 1 on 1 pokemon you did pretty much obliterate my team pretty easily, even though they were built to be a one on one team. Plus Role Play and Vaporeon with the continuous surfs is pretty potent the fact that you contantly.
I mean just because I was able to kill him or make him go critical easily with Gardevoir because of Trance and her high Special Defense doesn't mean he's not very threatening in a Double battle, heck most people would be scared that you would use him in the first place. Maybe you could make it so that Mewtwo could protect Vaporeon and himself as much as he can with Light Screen and teach him Aqua Tail to heal Vaporeon too so that way they'll be even harder to take down.
I mean that's another reason why Steelix's Earthquake did so little damage against my Feraligatr, his high Defense and using Reflect with Metagross holding a Light Clay.
-
Barring that even, there's Psych Up too.
It can be argued that Mewtwo thrives in 1-on-1 fights, but you can put him in a Double battle and use him quite effectively. See, to me it sounds like you're aware of that, but at the same time you can't use a whole lot of the strategies because you already have your Doubles team set up to do whatever it already does. All the stuff Mewtwo can do doesn't really help you out a whole lot either. I think the best remedy for this might be to alter your team a little bit.
Besides which, you're only using one Uber anyway, so being flimsy by Uber-standards shouldn't bug you too much. I dunno if you play Ubers or not, but...You're kinda outnumbered there. Then again, there's doubles, but still...
-
Occassionaly getting pissed at some annoying mid-boss fights. Hell, sometimes theses guys are more frustrating than the true boss itself. Not to mention grinding for cashes just to buy a rediculous expensive equipment.