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Title: Deus Ex General
Post by: Bueno Excelente on September 12, 2011, 03:18:52 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y414Q7vVgYU[/youtube]

Jensen's a dancing machine.

So, who has played the greatest RPG/Action combination franchise ever made? Both the original and the prequel. The sequel doesn't exist.

Anyone wanna discuss transhumanity in a radical manner, or talk about how Pritchard's tsundere ass looks so delicious? This is the place.
Title: Re: Deus Ex General
Post by: Align on September 12, 2011, 03:59:25 PM
(http://www.deviantart.com/download/257639775/desktop_ex_desktop_unfinished_by_jon_markovski-d49e44f.png) (http://jon-markovski.deviantart.com/art/Desktop-Ex-Desktop-Unfinished-257639775)
Delicious theme/wallpaper

Gotta say I think I prefer HR over the original, in terms of overall enjoyment...
Title: Re: Deus Ex General
Post by: slayer on September 12, 2011, 04:03:13 PM
did someone says deus ex.....??
one of the best game evah...!!!!!!!!
but, i haven`t played invisible wars..... is really so bad?
really warren spector make a horrbile game?
Title: Re: Deus Ex General
Post by: Bueno Excelente on September 12, 2011, 04:19:14 PM
YES.

And from my point of view, they're both amazing games. The original had much more variety, was much bigger and it had way more options/endings.

But Human Revolution is bloody beautiful, the characters seem more likeable, and the action is done way, waaaay better, specially the stealth. Not just that, you find yourself not even using the weapons during most of the game. I love that. Bosses can go screw themselves, though.

Also, Sarif ending is only ending.

did someone says deus ex.....??
one of the best game evah...!!!!!!!!
but, i haven`t played invisible wars..... is really so bad?
really warren spector make a horrbile game?
Take about a weekend or so to play the game. It's kinda like a bad fanfic. It's not the most horrible game ever, but it's awful when compared to how amazing Deus Ex was. Has a typical Mary-Sue character who is related to the main character of the original, and it deals with a ton of Jesus apocalyptic bullshit.
Title: Re: Deus Ex General
Post by: Align on September 12, 2011, 11:50:56 PM
(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/253/a/1/dx_bt_char01_by_barontieri-d49ggos.jpg) (http://barontieri.deviantart.com/art/DX-BT-Char01-257749372)
Character designs were apparently all over the place before they really got started with the game. Guy's got a bunch of pics like that, check 'em.
Title: Re: Deus Ex General
Post by: Bueno Excelente on September 12, 2011, 11:58:59 PM
Honestly, those look a little bit too colorful and punk-like for my taste. I love the way the game ended up as.

Does anyone else think Jensen sounds a bit like a middle-aged Clint Eastwood?
Title: Re: Deus Ex General
Post by: Fxeni on September 13, 2011, 01:42:45 AM
Well, I suppose this game deserves it's own thread. Too bad it probably won't gain much traction around these parts.

I know some of the people who worked on it, nice guys. Very devoted.
Title: Re: Deus Ex General
Post by: Protoman Blues on September 13, 2011, 01:49:51 AM
I've heard very mixed reviews on this game thus far. Suzu really recommended it, but someone at work told me it was meh. Haha, it's not like I have much time to play it anyway.
Title: Re: Deus Ex General
Post by: Bueno Excelente on September 13, 2011, 01:53:50 AM
I've heard very mixed reviews on this game thus far. Suzu really recommended it, but someone at work told me it was meh. Haha, it's not like I have much time to play it anyway.
In my opinion, it's the very definition of a perfect game, flaws and everything. Play it when you have time. it's amazing.
Title: Re: Deus Ex General
Post by: Align on September 13, 2011, 09:21:18 AM
Calling it perfect seems like tempting fate, with overhype disappointment if nothing else. But it is a thoroughly solid and basically enjoyable game, though I strongly recommend doing a guns-ablaze run the first time around, rather than pacifist sneaking (since that is helped so much by knowing where stuff is and what augs would've helped in exploring).
Title: Re: Deus Ex General
Post by: Bueno Excelente on September 13, 2011, 10:38:27 AM
Calling it perfect seems like tempting fate, with overhype disappointment if nothing else. But it is a thoroughly solid and basically enjoyable game, though I strongly recommend doing a guns-ablaze run the first time around, rather than pacifist sneaking (since that is helped so much by knowing where stuff is and what augs would've helped in exploring).
What? No! The main thing the game's fun at, is sneaking. This game has what's probably the best and most simplistic sneaking mechanics since MGS, it's VERY fun to play around with the enemy AI, you gain A LOT more experience by sneaking, and the fun thing about the game, is that you do not treat it like a guns blazing FPS, but like an RPG. There's exploration, a ton of sidequests and missions, secrets in every corner, augmentations galore... the fun thing is exploring an unknown world.

Not to mention the game is made so you go down with a single shotgun shot, and about two or three shots from other guns. The regenerative health doesn't actually start regenerating until you stop fighting and wait quite a bit (not made for mid-combat) and the enemies will overpower you every single time. The game is made to be played on the Give Me Deus Ex difficulty mode, and it comes out as the most rewarding and amazing of all plays. Be stealthy when it's required, have fun with guns when you gotta, kill the people you want in your own morality choices (I made a point to spare innocents, kill terrorists and knock out gang members/security forces when I played. The choices and morality of the people around you is very visible, as well as how much they want to actually fight you). The world lives and breathes, and you can experiment with all of its things as you go through the game. But don't go guns blazing. The LAST thing you want, is to go guns blazing.
Title: Re: Deus Ex General
Post by: Align on September 13, 2011, 11:24:21 AM
Right, what I meant is, come equipped for guns blazing. That way you don't get [tornado fang]'d in the boss fights, and its nice to always have the option to pop a few heads instead of grinding your teeth while waiting for an opportunity to pass without killing anyone.
Title: Re: Deus Ex General
Post by: Bueno Excelente on September 13, 2011, 11:35:45 AM
Right, what I meant is, come equipped for guns blazing. That way you don't get [tornado fang]'d in the boss fights, and its nice to always have the option to pop a few heads instead of grinding your teeth while waiting for an opportunity to pass without killing anyone.
Guns blazing is good for bosses, and when you have a ton of enemies stacked together. Heck, even then, it's best to throw a concussion grenade and sneak on by. But yes, bosses are one of the big things about the game that could be much better.

...specially since you can beat them in 10 seconds by going up to them and mashing the Typhoon button.
Title: Re: Deus Ex General
Post by: Acid on September 13, 2011, 12:49:20 PM
I know some of the people who worked on it, nice guys. Very devoted.

Tell them I loved every single minute.
Went in with zero expectations and as a result I w as blown away.
Title: Re: Deus Ex General
Post by: Bueno Excelente on October 03, 2011, 03:18:54 AM
New info from an interview.

Quote
Eurogamer: Human Revolution was critically acclaimed and enjoyed good sales. Would you like to make another Deus Ex?

Marce-Andre Dufort: I would like to, but I don't know what the future is right now. I know that Wada-san [Yoichi Wada, Square Enix president] said he had a plan for the future, but right now we're celebrating the success of the game, since it's the first game of the studio. I don't know if you've seen the credits of the main game, but there were a lot of production babies, so I think people want to spend some time with their families and take some time off. That's pretty much where we are right now.

Yoichi Wada has a plan for the rest of the Deus Ex series. Looking at their track record, they'd probably love it to incorporate the game into a FF crossover or something. I dunno how I'd feel about that.
Title: Re: Deus Ex General
Post by: Acid on October 03, 2011, 03:26:55 AM
Crossover? What do you mean by that?

As for more Deus Ex: I'd like a game about Gunther.
Title: Re: Deus Ex General
Post by: Bueno Excelente on October 03, 2011, 02:57:00 PM
Crossover? What do you mean by that?

As for more Deus Ex: I'd like a game about Gunther.
Deus Ex: "GIVE ME MY ORANGE"

And by that I mean chibi Jensen cavorting with the Final Fantasy characters.
Title: Re: Deus Ex General
Post by: Acid on October 03, 2011, 03:22:47 PM
Unless Wada himself flies over to Montreal to meddle with development I think the most we will see are more FF27 posters in the next game.
Title: Re: Deus Ex General
Post by: Bueno Excelente on October 03, 2011, 03:53:18 PM
It was a game none of the big japanese head honchos were expecting to succeed, and even so, it was Square-Enix's best-selling game this year. It got the best reviews, a legion of fans and a tremendous following.

Square-Enix were not only incredibly put down by this, seeing that a western game they didn't really believe in succeeded when all of their grorious nippon stuff didn't make many waves. Now they're looking to invest more in this franchise, make sure it continues to be a money-maker, and focusing more of the company's attention to it instead of just making it the western branch's responsibility.
Title: Re: Deus Ex General
Post by: Acid on October 03, 2011, 04:13:22 PM
But all that was achieved without anyone of SE flying over to Eidos Montreal to observe the development.

So, in the best case scenario, the dev team gets better funding to develop on their own.
Title: Re: Deus Ex General
Post by: Bueno Excelente on October 03, 2011, 04:43:43 PM
But all that was achieved without anyone of SE flying over to Eidos Montreal to observe the development.

So, in the best case scenario, the dev team gets better funding to develop on their own.
You honestly think they're gonna leave it alone? Or let the team carry on a pearl like this on their own? This means at the very least more and more mandated sequels and spinoffs, tons of them.

I'm only hoping they use the team, game and development as an example of how a damn successful game should be made. Because Deus Ex: Human Revolution is Square-Enix's best RPG in years.
Title: Re: Deus Ex General
Post by: Acid on October 03, 2011, 10:30:08 PM
I suppose they would. As SE wants to be more successful in western markets and their solution was basically "let's get Eidos".

Well I remain optimistic.
Title: Re: Deus Ex General
Post by: Bueno Excelente on October 03, 2011, 11:30:34 PM
I just hope it was a wake-up call to how they run their business in Japan. Since the game was loved internationally.
Title: Re: Deus Ex General
Post by: Acid on October 03, 2011, 11:59:09 PM
I doubt they will change fundamentally. Japan is their backup market. They can always fall back to that should foreign businesses fail.

But it might change how they treat non-japanese markets.
Title: Re: Deus Ex General
Post by: Bueno Excelente on October 04, 2011, 01:11:43 AM
Thing is, Japan just isn't giving them the business they used to give. Final Fantasy games are failing ever since the new gen. There isn't that kind of interest they used to spark, and people are accepting them more and more like another samey blockbuster of the season.

Now, a very, VERY conservative japanese company has seen that western games can be very important and not just the money you make on the side. So maybe they'll veer more in that direction and try to become more involved.
Title: Re: Deus Ex General
Post by: slayer on October 04, 2011, 01:50:47 AM
yeah... i imagine something like jc denton in kingdom hearts or something...
and about the game....is AMAZING and i love it, but just like every warren spector game, when you are a ciber guy you expect to be the n-1 bad ass, not the guy who hides in the vents.....
i also imagine sora in DE world
sora: we must fin the hero Adam Jensen blabla, we have traveled all the ciberworld with no results....
riku: have you search in the vents?
Adam :*muffling through the vents* i never asked for this...
Title: Re: Deus Ex General
Post by: Acid on October 06, 2011, 07:59:08 PM
Apparently there were rumors about a DX1 remake with the HR engine.

I would welcome that.

But they're just rumors.
Title: Re: Deus Ex General
Post by: Bueno Excelente on October 06, 2011, 08:36:07 PM
You can always try this mod, that turns DX1 into HR. =P

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoFe8hRy42o&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
Title: Re: Deus Ex General
Post by: Acid on October 06, 2011, 08:54:29 PM
Yeah I know that one. It's hilarious.

Though I would prefer... let's say... a "professional" job.
Title: Re: Deus Ex General
Post by: Bueno Excelente on October 06, 2011, 09:57:45 PM
There's always the Nameless Mod if you want more Deus Ex.
Title: Re: Deus Ex General
Post by: Acid on October 06, 2011, 09:58:29 PM
Wasn't there some recently finished mod merely called "2027" as well?
Title: Re: Deus Ex General
Post by: Bueno Excelente on October 06, 2011, 10:31:33 PM
Aparently. It's a very popular game, mod-wise.
Title: Re: Deus Ex General
Post by: Acid on October 06, 2011, 10:51:46 PM
As popular as Oblivion?
Title: Re: Deus Ex General
Post by: Bueno Excelente on October 06, 2011, 11:20:09 PM
Take away the lolis and it's probably more popular than Oblivion.
Title: Re: Deus Ex General
Post by: Acid on October 06, 2011, 11:56:37 PM
But lolis are an essential part of Modlivion.
Title: Re: Deus Ex General
Post by: Bueno Excelente on October 07, 2011, 12:25:42 AM
One of the reasons why Morrowind is a masterpiece compared to "I'm a hueg continent where everything's the same".
Title: Re: Deus Ex General
Post by: Acid on October 07, 2011, 12:28:04 AM
Any hope for Skyrim?

It does look nice, but I'm sceptical.
Title: Re: Deus Ex General
Post by: Bueno Excelente on October 07, 2011, 12:40:01 AM
It honestly seems to be the exact same thing. It'll all be down to the world.

What was amazing in Morrowind, was that although the world was pretty huge, it was all entirely different. You look at a screenshot and anyone can identify where you're at.

Oblivion's one of the worst examples of copy-paste ever. If they stop making huge mountainy meadows with trees that all look the same in Skyrim, it'll be good. The gameplay will still be very basic though.