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Base => News and Announcements => Topic started by: Protodude on November 28, 2009, 07:24:11 PM
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Looks like Capcom is getting ready to finally consider our pleas. After years of waiting, Capcom is responding to the Mega Man Legends 3 demand through the creation of an official outlet to let our voices be heard (http://www.capcom-unity.com/ask_capcom/go/thread/view/7371/21897569/Whats_the_best_way_to_support_a_Mega_Man_Legends_3):
"We’re working on a way for you to be able to do just such a thing (voice your opinion), and hope to have the new Unity feature available soon-ish. The bad news is that you’ll have to compete with the Powerstone 3 and RE: Outbreak psychos for attention! :D Seriously though, I know that having such a clear outlet is important, and we’re working on even more direct ways for you to let your voice be heard internally here at Capcom.” - Capcom Community Manager Seth Killian
No word when such an outlet will be available to fans, but knowing the guys over at Unity, you'll see something soon enough.
Credit: The Mega Man Network (http://www.themmnetwork.com/2009/11/28/get-ready-to-make-your-voices-heard-for-legends-3/)
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Ah legends... how i miss thou. I wonder if they are going with new voice actors or hunt down the old ones? :\
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Ah legends... how i miss thou. I wonder if they are going with new voice actors or hunt down the old ones? :\
You don´t even know if they´ll make it....Even if they release it I won´t be able to play it...but I´d like to see the story being continued!
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I wonder if
That is i wonder IF <- they are going to.
Thus it means IF they DID legends 3. >w< Silly. Eat a cookie. :cookie:
And why won't you be able to play it?
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http://androidarts.com/mml/reaverbot_legends.htm
putting this up for future reference and ideas. We should seriously show them this.
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I wonder if
That is i wonder IF <- they are going to.
Thus it means IF they DID legends 3. >w< Silly. Eat a cookie. :cookie:
And why won't you be able to play it?
~w~ *talking with mounth full of cookie*
Lack of new gen consoles
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The bad news is that you’ll have to compete with the Powerstone 3 and RE: Outbreak psychos for attention!
The bad news is that you’ll have to compete with the Powerstone 3
Powerstone 3
:o
...Sorry Legends 3....but I want this more.
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:o
...Sorry Legends 3....but I want this more.
Oh yeah I knew thare was something else what makes L3 unlikely
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PB
YOU TRAITOR
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*gives PB ZEE UPPERCUT!!*
Traitorous dog, we'll see you beaten!
Yep, I'll be yelling my head off for L3 whenever they get their input-system-doo-dad ready.
And God-willing, it'll be on the Wii. Legends (in fact most MegaMan games) use an anime-ish style and thus there's no reason the extra muscle, and development costs, of other systems is REALLY necessary. On the other hand, the chance to point my namesake at a Reaverbot before blasting it into oblivion? Can't deny the appeal there.
(of course, the fact that I don't OWN a hi-def console leaves me biased, but still)
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If we finally do get Legends 3 through this, and all I hear for months afterward that it "isn't right"...I'll have to break someone.
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PB
YOU TRAITOR
*gives PB ZEE UPPERCUT!!*
Traitorous dog, we'll see you beaten!
I don't think you two understand my utmost love for the Power Stone World! It's in my Top 10 favorite games of all time. Power Stone 3, especially with the online capability it better [tornado fang]ing have, would be a game I would play with Lou & our friend till Power Stone 4. 8)
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What is Powerstone anyway?
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Power Stone 2, IMO, is the 2nd best Dreamcast game ever made, young one.
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What is Powerstone anyway?
An old Dreamcast 3d enviroment fighting game, where the character beat the crap out of each other till they collected 3 "power stones", after which they transformed and continued to kick the crap out of each other....it also spawned a pretty good anime
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An old Dreamcast 3d enviroment fighting game, where the character beat the crap out of each other till they collected 3 "power stones", after which they transformed and continued to kick the crap out of each other....it also spawned a pretty good anime
I see. I know I'm going to get a uppercut or hit with the magical talking fish or even more unbelieveable a magical talking fish uppercut but I wish there was one for another ZX game since I want that more.
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I havent really played Legends before, but I also never played Powerstone before, since this IS a rockman forum, Ill avoid getting mualed and vote for Legends 3 whent hey get this voting poll or whatever up.
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Lack of new gen consoles
Same, though I wish I did, I might get a DSi and Zelda ST for christmas though, but that's just a hope.
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What is Powerstone anyway?
Basically, Smash Bros on a 3D plain.
:o
...Sorry Legends 3....but I want this more.
Seriously pitting the Power Stone fanbase against the Legends 3 fanbase should be criminal. Each side is gonna cannibalize the hell out of the other just to get their game some spotlight. *Wants both Legends 3 & Power Stone 3*
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Seriously pitting the Power Stone fanbase against the Legends 3 fanbase should be criminal. Each side is gonna cannibalize the hell out of the other just to get their game some spotlight. *Wants both Legends 3 & Power Stone 3*
You and me both. This war's gonna break loose, and a RE game it's on it's way, so I'm not too sure about RE: Outbreak (my first and ONLY one was an arcade game in a boomers once, so I know Jill by heart by now).
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I've never played Legends, nor have I played Powerstone. But based on what I've seen/heard, both seem decent. I think I'd rather have Powerstone 3, personally. Jelly's comment there pretty much tipped it over into my favour.
But hey, why not just demand both and see what happens? =P
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You're really missing out if you've never played PS or MML.
Seriously.
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My lack of a Dreamcast made Powerstone an impossibility to achieve. As for Legends...I suppose the game never really grabbed my attention.
To be fair, I only remember seeing it on sale here about once.
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Legends 1 and 2 are easy to get. And Power Stone got a PSP re-release containing PS1 and PS2.
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I don't have a PSP...
I shall take your advice on Legends, though~
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Legends 1 and 2 are easy to get. And Power Stone got a PSP re-release containing PS1 and PS2.
The loading time on it is pretty freakin' awful though.
I'm not sure about the PSN version. If they fixed it, I might very well buy it again.
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Played Legends 1, I just need to hunt down Legends 2, and a Playstation, I did the N64 Version. :3
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I'm very happy about this. And the fact there are PS3 and MML3 wishers~
As for BoF6 wishers, i'm very curious of.
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Basically, Smash Bros on a 3D plain.
you forget that it's far better then any smash bros game will ever be.
ninja edit: wait, people actually cared about outbreak?
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you forget that it's far better then any smash bros game will ever be.
Oh no, I'm not starting that discussion again. XD
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Oh no, I'm not starting that discussion again. XD
LoL, again I side with Hitomi. I love Smash Bros, but I think Power Stone is better too.
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I thought we agreed to not *** in our cereal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0CNFdtKHxE#t=0m44s) over that one?
I kinda consider 2D and 3D games to be apples and oranges (ask me to pick between Sonic Adventure 2 and Sonic 3 & Knuckles; can't do it). However, I'll say this: any game that dares to compete with SUPER DRAGON POWER definitely has an uphill battle.
But Power Stone edges more towards traditional fighters than Smash due to the game being stamina-based, it just happens to allow 4-player fights. If you can't star-KO your opponent into the distance, you're not competing with Smash.
Seriously pitting the Power Stone fanbase against the Legends 3 fanbase should be criminal. Each side is gonna cannibalize the hell out of the other just to get their game some spotlight.
Jelly speaks truth. :cookie:
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Perhaps when Smash Bros. allows Lou and I to fight over whom kills whom with a Mega Buster, I'd consider it superior to Power Stone. 8D
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Hoo, nice! a possible Legends 3 is always welcomed in my book, even if I don't have the console for it.
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Perhaps when Smash Bros. allows Lou and I to fight over whom kills whom with a Mega Buster, I'd consider it superior to Power Stone. 8D
We ALL wanted that, remember? Be sure to e-mail Capcom when Bitchslap is in development.
However, in the interest of an apples-and-apples discussion, I can tell you the one critical element that a 3D 4-player stamina fighter like Power Stone is missing:
FRIKKIN' BIOLLANTE!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Wi1cWnFH9g)
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:o
...Sorry Legends 3....but I want this more.
Yeah, I'll be voting for PS3. Sorry, Legends 3 but Mario get you next time. *is shot*
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However, I'll say this: any game that dares to compete with SUPER DRAGON POWER definitely has an uphill battle.
my murder cycle brings all the boys to the yard and they're like "holy [tornado fang]ing sh*killed*"
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Could imagine? A sexier.....bouncier.....more powerful.....Ayame? *nosebleed*
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my murder cycle brings all the boys to the yard and they're like "holy [tornado fang]ing sh*killed*"
I think I've found my favorite Hitomi quote ever. XD
Also, everything is going just as I thought it would. Legends 3 is [tornado fang]ing screwed. -u-'
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You said it, Jelly.
Not like it's easy for me to say no to Rouge, either. But still, there's no substitute for playing as a mass of reptilian plant tentacles twice the size of any poor schmuck in your way. Any other 3D fighter, Power Stone included, becomes as Brawl without Mewtwo at that point: Sure, you damn well will love it, but it'll always be missing something.
On the other hand, there is nothing whatsoever in the league of Legends. Trigger, Bonnes, Servbots, and large explosive special weapon arsenals? You can't not make an awesome game with that.
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About [Tornado fang]ing time they considered it and I hope it is released on the Wii. So many things they could do with the control scheme.
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I really don't care what system it comes out on so long as it happens myself. There are different advantages and disadvantages to each one, but for now let's wait for a confirmation before going apeshit. XD
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The only system that I could possibly play it on is if there was a PC release...which is highly unlikely in the first place.
It kinda sucks to not be present in this generations consoles, but then again...I'm not missing out on much from my point of view.
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Don't count out PC just yet Rad, especially since Capcom's been very friendly with the PC audiences on their big time releases.
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Ummm....Legends 3 will probably be released on everything. >.>
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Yeah, I suppose.
But it also seems my PCs hardware is getting shafted as of 2010's minimum system requirements for new game releases.
For the past year or two, my X1600 has been the min. video card requirement, but alas... even a few games are shafting WinXP and DX9!
whatever am I supposed to do about this? :C
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my murder cycle brings all the boys to the yard and they're like "holy [tornado fang]ing sh*killed*"
Is that who you use? The Cowboy guy? XD
Could imagine? A sexier.....bouncier.....more powerful.....Ayame? *nosebleed*
AYAME, TANNJJOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
<3 u Wanda.
Also, it's also a more personal game for me, Power Stone 2. Myself, Lou, and our friend Crazy Dave would stay up till like 2-3AM playing the hell out of that game. It's going to be the same type of thing when Perfect Dark is released on the XBLA. I mean, who knows if I'll play Halo again (Okay, I will cause of JEEP ACTION!)
Having said that though, I honestly still find it hard to believe there are more Power Stone fans then Legends fans.
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Axel is Accel in disguise to get in on the Power Stone action. 8D
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Having said that though, I honestly still find it hard to believe there are more Power Stone fans then Legends fans.
Looking at the rip of the SNK VS Capcom: Card Fighters series cards made me go "what's Power Stone?" in the first place. And when I checked on Screwattack: "wow, this game's got it where it counts!". XD
I sure missed a lot of the turn of the century games, quite embarrasing really. -u-'
..And it's not that obvious people want those games that bring people together really, since PowerStone is 4player.
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Is that who you use? The Cowboy guy? XD
i play all of them
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Oh, and since I didn't get a chance to talk about this earlier:
http://androidarts.com/mml/reaverbot_legends.htm
putting this up for future reference and ideas. We should seriously show them this.
Fuuuuuuck, that's amazing.
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i play all of them
I try to as well. I like the Cowboy Guy, and I find the Chef to be freakin' hilarious.
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Gourmand is just a giant yoshi. >.>
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Lets see...Legends 3 or Powerstone 3..........LEGENDS FOR ME!
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If I dont get my Ayame, I'm putting all of you in my closet! >w<
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I'm putting all of you in my closet! >w<
I don't even know what I should think of that. @_@
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Yeah, um... To most of the guys here that probably isn't much of a threat. Or even unpleasant. >.>
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now, maybe if it was my special closet.. >>
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9Ec0IXk7Yk[/youtube]
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I don't really want either of those games...
Or rather, there are other games I want more.
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Although I've never played Legends OR Powerstone, Legends 3. 'Nuff said.
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I'd actually be fine with either PS3 or MML3. Though I'd prefer MML3.
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I don't know about Powerstone, but I sure want a new Megaman Legends game! 8)
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So a possibility of a Megaman Legends 3 sounds fun another Megaman game to add to my collection of beaten Megaman games. Though still I need to finish off the X series once I get my hands on a PS2.
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As much as I could definitely go for a DASH 3?
I agree with PB on one thing. If it was between DASH, and a sequel to a franchise that's a bit closer to my heart, like say, Viewtiful Joe? Gargoyle's Quest/Demon's Crest? Strider? Final Fight (FOR REAL THIS TIME!?!)? ....getting back the rights, so that they can make another Jojo's Bizarre Adventure fighting game?
It'd be no contest, sorry to say. Especially since, for a lot of these games, I've been waiting a helluva lot longer for sequels to these games than I've been for a third DASH. It just be a matter of personal priorities! 8D
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Legends 3, so we can stop wondering about what happened after Legends 2. WE NEED A CONCLUSION! It's not fair to keep us hanging this long. Although I do agree some other old Capcom series' could use updates, including Gargoyle's Quest (some old NP's I recently received cover the two games, thus intriguing me), I feel that Legends is the one that needs a new sequel.
Heck, I think they should do it on the DS. Top screen could be persistent map, bottom could be 3-D with camera controls. We already know that the DS is more than capable of doing it, and I think that it is more accessible than the consoles (plus busting Reaverbots into scrap whenever and wherever appeals to me). Pausing could bring the menu down to the bottom screen, and you could use the stylus to scan the map. The control scheme needn't change much either; the only difference is no L2, R2, or joysticks. But, as I said, camera controls could be on the touch screen, a la SM64DS. L and R could handle strafing. Y could be the Buster and X would be the special weapon. A would be whatever Circle did, and B would be jump. Or hold L and use Left and Right to strafe in the indicated direction (Up and Down could hand forward and backward evasive rolls) and R could be lock-on. Well? Thoughts?
tl;dr Legends 3 on DS
L + D-Pad = evasive maneuvers
R = Lock-on
X = Sp. Weapon
Y = MegaBuster
B = Jump
A = Skate, Interact, etc.
Start = Pause
Select = Menu
Top Screen = Map
Touch Screen = Gameplay, Camera controls
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It's certainly possible. If they could get a "sequel" to Okami to work on the DS, then SURELY a game based off of the PSX era could likely work on the DS.
Of course, it would probably disappoint those who were expecting a game with full voice, plenty of FMVs, and a game that may actually take DASH's game play and art style to a new level.
To me, a DASH game could stand to benefit much from the best that this new generation has to offer. In other words, Rockman [tornado fang]ing Trigger should NOT control like a tank. In my eyes, the only acceptable means would be to make him a character that's much more mobile...some where between Dante and Mario is the kind of mobility I would like him to have. After all, this is guy is supposed to be the latest, and arguably, most powerful guy who inherited the Rockman moniker. Shouldn't he be privy to plenty of combat and movement options that allow him to realize that potential? :3
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Don't forget they had an N64-era game on the DS since launch.
I actually think the PS1-era Legends controls are pretty awesome. You have full manual control of both the character and camera at all times without the need to move your thumb off of jumping/firing buttons. Very convenient once you get used to it; I actually modify Armored Core controls to strafe with the D-Pad so that it mimicks Legends. It's definitely the most comfortable way to use digital inputs to control a 3D character (I hate DualShock stick locations).
There's also the fact that Trigger invented the invulnerable dodge-roll. And does it a hell of a lot better than Axl. As far as maneuverability goes, that's a big one in his favor.
Of course, making a more "modern/general" camera system for movement akin to Mario might be in the best interest of series survival. As much as I love the controls I know the rest of the world doesn't feel that way. Maybe they could do both and let you switch in the options. I know they tried to be accommodating for both styles in Misadventures and L2. There is the issue, however, of if the controls are modified so that you no longer will be turning while standing still, how tumble-dodges will be handled, since that's part of how you activate them.
Heck, I think they should do it on the DS.
I'd still rather see Wii, but this isn't a bad idea. One thing, though: If the game is not touch-controlled, the action should be on the top screen, and bottom screen should be your map/status, not the other way around. It's awkward, for me at least, to be ignoring the top half of the system when that's where the sound is coming from. Most devs seem to agree, looking at various Mario and MegaMan titles that are already out there. This is especially important if you're going to shoot for SM64DS-esque "analogue" movement as an option (although it's not one that I'm fond of), since:
A. Whatever you're using to operate the touch-screen will obstruct your view, and:
B. Since the touch-screen is not circular and has no tactile feel as to where the "middle" is, a visual display of where the neutral location is (SM64DS does this) is pretty much necessary.
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Gaaaaaah... but where's my ZX3?! :|
enough of my inner fanboy rage, sure hope the next game will have Protoman in it. I'd buy it just for that. *o*
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Gaaaaaah... but where's my ZX3?! :|
come back in ten years and you can [sonic slicer] about it, kid.
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This topic really makes me realize that Megaman news is damn scarce. That's such a sad thing.
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How much Legends hentai do I have to draw before we get Legends 3?
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How much Legends hentai do I have to draw before we get Legends 3?
Moar Yuna plz. XD
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How much Legends hentai do I have to draw before we get Legends 3?
Really now? I think I've seen my fair share, but all weren't impressive. :\
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You didn't see my Denise, did ya?
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Eh, I think I said enough. I guess hentai doesn't really intrest me much.
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Obviously I haven't drawn enough then. >:|
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You had hentai?! I must have missed it but Legends so popular on the hentai circle. Would Legends work as a harem?
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Moar Yuna plz. XD
[tornado fang]ing SECONDED!
You didn't see my Denise, did ya?
Could I please get the in a PM?
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Sure thing.
It has been sent.
Anyway, today, I feel like sketching PG-13 stuff.
So I think I will draw many more Legends characters.
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Can you PM me some as well Centaur?
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Yeah sure.
Anyway, I've begun a sketch of Roll.
Will post in my thread when it's done.
And if anyone has any character requests, feel free to go right ahead, either here (if I/we don't get told to keep it out of this thread) or in my artsy thread.
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Tell Capcom wassup for me. (http://forum.rockmanpm.com/index.php?topic=3358.0) owob
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gives me an error.
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It would be a great idea if Mega Man Legends 3 were to be made for the on-coming Nintendo 3DS.
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Nice necropost.
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I know there's some rule about responding to necroposts, but the content of dragontamer's post warrants a response.
So Legends 3 on 3DS; NO. It's a nice idea, but I think we deserve the better graphics that consoles can provide. Also, I was hoping for a game so long that it took up the whole 50GB of a blu-ray disk, instead of one that was trimmed short to fit into the limited space of a DS card (512 megabytes I think).
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I know there's some rule about responding to necroposts, but the content of dragontamer's post warrants a response.
So Legends 3 on 3DS; NO. It's a nice idea, but I think we deserve the better graphics that consoles can provide. Also, I was hoping for a game so long that it took up the whole 50GB of a blu-ray disk, instead of one that was trimmed short to fit into the limited space of a DS card (512 megabytes I think).
I'm going to respond to this in an adventure book kind of way, choose your own answer:
A.) You do realize that if the game was made to be that large, there'd be quite a hefty dev time for it, right? Metal Gear Solid 4, the only game that's so far using the max storage space of a blu-ray disc (IIRC), has most of that space dedicated to some ridiculously high quality sound direction and music. Those are the only things that are making the overall game so huge.
B.) He said 3DS, not DS. 3DS is capable of using 2GB sized game carts from the jump with a high chance of larger capacities coming soon. Either way though, what difference does it all really make whether or not a game releases on one or the other? If it has the gameplay and fun of the past games with something new (be it because of innovation or straight up game design) for us who wanted a sequel, I really doubt a platform choice should matter much.
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Some expansions to Brother Darkness's comments:
A.) You do realize that if the game was made to be that large, there'd be quite a hefty dev time for it, right? Metal Gear Solid 4, the only game that's so far using the max storage space of a blu-ray disc (IIRC), has most of that space dedicated to some ridiculously high quality sound direction and music. Those are the only things that are making the overall game so huge.
Truth. Seriously, no game ever used anywhere *NEAR* 50GB worth of coding. You're talking about bloated streamed media. Recall that even the X-Box 360 is still using standard DVDs. We naturally expect voice acting in Legends, but I'm still looking for a game and not a movie.
Using 2GB carts puts the 3DS slightly above the storage capacity of a dual-layer UMD. More than enough. MHX threw in a half hour anime clip and a MMPU demo and still weighed in at less than a quarter of that.
B.) He said 3DS, not DS.
On that same note, the 3DS's visual capabilities are pretty awesome. Not impressed by Kid Icarus's visuals? (I'd say you're nuts, but...) No reason you should be when you look here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D92S9unF88). 3DS specs were not finalized when Sakurai began work on Kid Icarus; hell he didn't even know the system would use 3D images.
Legends uses an anime-inspired style that doesn't really demand a lot of horsepower to feel right; even the PS2 can handle such a style rather competently (see MegaMan X Command Mission or the DBZ Budokai Tenkaichi series). Surely the 3DS is more than capable.
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Legends uses an anime-inspired style that doesn't really demand a lot of horsepower to feel right; even the PS2 can handle such a style rather competently (see MegaMan X Command Mission or the DBZ Budokai Tenkaichi series). Surely the 3DS is more than capable.
Just the answer I was waiting for. High five, Hypie~ ^^o
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[tornado fang] the 3DS. Legends shouldn't be bound to a handheld. It needs to be a current console generation release, just like the other two. I want it on my nice big HDTV screen, in HD resolution, with a controller that wont cramp my hands cause the unit is too damn thin and small.
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We all want the prettiest display we can get. Miyamoto himself wants his games to be in HD. But one needs to stop and think about what is practical.
In all its history Legends has always been underrated. HD development means higher cost, which Capcom would likely frown upon for what they at best see as a cult revival. They barely approved a development team of 20 for a Classic-series revival, for crying out loud.
And call this console fanboyism if you must, but I think trying to push MegaMan on the "stereotypically hardcore" crowd represented by HD consoles is an exercise in futility. Ever since the PS2 made gaming "cool", Capcom has been trying to push X, Classic, and Legends in their camp, both console and handheld, and it NEVER WORKED. No matter how good the games are they don't get the recognition they deserve. We don't need L3 turning into another MHX. I'm not saying this just so I can play it; if need be I'll happily buy an XBox360 L3 disc and camp at my brother's house. But I don't believe it's what's best for the series. MegaMan is oldschool, whether it has an NES can of paint on it or not, and Capcom needs to get that through their heads.
BTW, Objection Man, no offense, but it sucks to have your hands. I'm 6'4" and have never found a pair of work gloves that actually fit, and even I can play handhelds without cramping.
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50GB worth of coding.
When I said a game that took up 50 gigs, I meant one with 3D models that had extremely high polygon counts (or whatever you call high resolution 3D models) and was long enough that it needed lots of space for all the different places that Trigger and friends would travel to.
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When I said a game that took up 50 gigs, I meant one with 3D models that had extremely high polygon counts (or whatever you call high resolution 3D models) and was long enough that it needed lots of space for all the different places that Trigger and friends would travel to.
I hope you can support the amount of effort a game like that would take to produce when the asking price is 100 - 150 USD.
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Let me put it this way. It would take tons of funds for Capcom to make L3 for the consoles, and the very fact that the game hasn't been made yet is proof enough that it isn't worth the risk to them. The series was already in cult status as it is, and wouldn't benefit from the whole "revival" process that brought interest to other Capcom series in HD (Bionic Commando for example, which didn't do all that well if I recall well). The fact that they spent much less on reviving the classic series (which basically every old school gamer has at least heard of) also makes the likelyhood of L3 on consoles that much slimmer. It would be nice to have it as a full release on consoles, but logically it's just a pipedream.
Frankly, if they ever get to it there's two ways that stand a much larger chance of working:
1) On handheld, where the development cost would be low, or
2) by Episodic content, much like Sega is planning on doing for Sonic 4.