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Title: Super Mario Bros. 2 (Doki Doki Panic)
Post by: Acid on February 02, 2009, 02:28:43 AM: (http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/2283/supermariobros2nestitlejk8.jpg)

Whom did you pick? I used Luigi. Always. For every stage.

Floaty jumps are awesome.

Oh yeah, so genral SMB2 thread I guess. Despite being a faker, it gave us many many things we enjoy. Like the Shy Guys! And Birdo! I'm a bit sad that the other bosses never returned to the Mario series.
Title: Re: Super Mario Bros. 2 (Doki Doki Panic)
Post by: Shiki Tohno on February 02, 2009, 02:34:44 AM: I loved the game. Still love it.

I used to use Luigi for most of the stages; but for the digging stages I always picked Toad (fastest digging speed) and the Princess for the ice levels (flying is a lifesaver when you're positioning yourself while walking over a slippery surface).

Random curious fact: even though I owned it since 1991, I only finished the game when I bought my SNES in 96, in the Super Mario All Stars bundled cart. :P
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Post by: Protoman Blues on February 02, 2009, 04:37:19 AM: Ahhh yes. The game where "Luigi Blew It" came from! 8D
Title: Re: Super Mario Bros. 2 (Doki Doki Panic)
Post by: HokutoNoBen on February 02, 2009, 04:48:49 AM: Quote from: Acid on February 02, 2009, 02:28:43 AM
Like the Shy Guys! And Birdo! I'm a bit sad that the other bosses never returned to the Mario series.

Preach.

The fact that the likes of enemies such as Cobrat, TryClyde and ESPECIALLY Mouser, have never been seen again, hurts me to my soul.

And what about Phanto? When that guy first started to chase me after I took his key, it was something that actually freaked me out as a kid. 8)
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Post by: Protoman Blues on February 02, 2009, 04:51:33 AM: I agree. Phanto was why Luigi Blew It a lot of times! XD
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Post by: Satoryu on February 02, 2009, 05:05:54 AM: i'll admit, i never played the game much. i never owned it, and few people i knew owned it. but if i were to play it today, odds are i'd be using Peach.
Title: Re: Super Mario Bros. 2 (Doki Doki Panic)
Post by: HyperSonicEXE on February 02, 2009, 05:28:03 AM: Mouser and Triclyde were great additions to the Mario lore (especially if you've watched Mouser in the cartoon; he'd be Toadsworth's 'foil'). Then the Koopa Kids collectively took that role, even though they're far better at being annoying maniacs like in M&L:SS.

As far as the game goes, ooh, a little rough, especially when you hit World 6. Not too bad, though; once you get far in the game and start knowing how to solve the puzzles of the stages, you can breeze through it. Yeah, you'll probably die once or twice, but you'll have like 10 or so lives left over, and you never had a Game Over.

Peach is the best character. Strangely, the pulling speed and jump height are not that important. On top of that, you get a strategic float ability, both in the stage, and in combat.
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Post by: Shiki Tohno on February 02, 2009, 05:32:50 AM: Personally, I think it's a tie between Peach and Weegee. Indeed, Peach's flying ability is strategic when it comes to certain areas, but jump height can net you many things you wouldn't normally be able to get, not to mention that his floaty jump was nearly as useful as Peach's flight.
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Post by: Crimson Lightning on February 02, 2009, 05:35:42 AM: Quote from: Shiki Tohno on February 02, 2009, 05:32:50 AM
Personally, I think it's a tie between Peach and Weegee. Indeed, Peach's flying ability is strategic when it comes to certain areas, but jump height can net you many things you wouldn't normally be able to get, not to mention that his floaty jump was nearly as useful as Peach's flight.
im with Shiki on this one Luigi was a great when it came to secret route for me and Peach on the ice and sometimes desert
Title: Re: Super Mario Bros. 2 (Doki Doki Panic)
Post by: Protoman Blues on February 02, 2009, 05:36:18 AM: Actually, I think Toad was the best myself. His superior fast pulling ability made him so very very good against enemies and bosses.
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Post by: HyperSonicEXE on February 02, 2009, 05:36:36 AM: It's true that Luigi's charged jump can give you a boost, makes one or two puzzles faster, and might make you feel better about using a character other than Peach, but after playing through the game with each character, Luigi's jumps didn't make a significant difference as far as clearing the game.

Getting some extra lives/life, yeah. Everything else, nah.

Quote from: Crimson Lightning on February 02, 2009, 05:35:42 AM
im with Shiki on this one Luigi was a great when it came to secret route for me and Peach on the ice and sometimes desert

Peach is a lifesaver in the later deserts. Yeah, Luigi can get over the Pokeys, but Peach can absolutely clear them.
Title: Re: Super Mario Bros. 2 (Doki Doki Panic)
Post by: VixyNyan on February 02, 2009, 08:50:09 AM: I'm pretty good at the game. ^^

Yume Koujou Doki Doki Panic - Part 1 (http://www.justin.tv/clip/f62cf61b583)
Yume Koujou Doki Doki Panic - Part 2 (http://www.justin.tv/clip/3c1de1bf1e9)

Super Mario USA (SMB2) Part 1 (http://www.justin.tv/clip/f6a2c3aa64068a21)
Super Mario USA (SMB2) Part 2 (http://www.justin.tv/clip/52881b2fb7f2f4ca)
Super Mario USA (SMB2) Part 3 (http://www.justin.tv/clip/5fbb9604ffa7ae25)
Super Mario USA (SMB2) Part 4 (http://www.justin.tv/clip/eb26321acebf85ab)
Super Mario USA (SMB2) Part 5 (http://www.justin.tv/clip/0326eba285d516e2)
Super Mario USA (SMB2) Part 6 (http://www.justin.tv/clip/2394cf99db10fca2)
Super Mario USA (SMB2) Part 7 (http://www.justin.tv/clip/e619555f2f9c985b)

I love it! When I was little, it was one of my most played games, along with Mario 3 and Mario World.
It's pretty fun to see that a few Sub-Con enemies comes back to other Mario games later. ^^
Title: Re: Super Mario Bros. 2 (Doki Doki Panic)
Post by: Hypershell on February 02, 2009, 09:34:18 PM: Quote from: Viewtiful Ben on February 02, 2009, 04:48:49 AM
The fact that the likes of enemies such as Cobrat, TryClyde and ESPECIALLY Mouser, have never been seen again, hurts me to my soul.
Quoted for truth. I miss my Mouser and TriClyde a ton...

I'm pretty much split between Peach and Luigi when I play. More often Peach, I guess; if I want Luigi I can always go for the other games.
Title: Re: Super Mario Bros. 2 (Doki Doki Panic)
Post by: VixyNyan on February 02, 2009, 10:41:45 PM: Quote from: Viewtiful Ben on February 02, 2009, 04:48:49 AM
-post-

How about that one part where they totally skipped Mouser in World 3 and replaced him with Mecha Birdo in Super Mario Advance? =w=;

Quote from: Hypershell on February 02, 2009, 09:34:18 PM
I'm pretty much split between Peach and Luigi when I play. More often Peach, I guess

<3 sweeeeet~
Title: Re: Super Mario Bros. 2 (Doki Doki Panic)
Post by: Protoman Blues on February 02, 2009, 10:42:31 PM: LoL, I'm the only Toad supporter in here! 8D
Title: Re: Super Mario Bros. 2 (Doki Doki Panic)
Post by: VixyNyan on February 02, 2009, 10:44:18 PM: If you have to know, I support all 4 of them.

When I play a full game, I tend to switch to each character on each level.
Mario first, then Luigi, then Peach and then Toad in that order.
That way, when the game is over, all of them has 5 points in the ending. ^^
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Post by: Acid on February 02, 2009, 10:44:48 PM: Sorry PB. But Toad doesn't hold a candle against Luigi floaty movements (IMO)
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Post by: Jericho on February 02, 2009, 10:51:44 PM: Honestly, I really can't pick a favorite out of the Big 4 in Mario 2, but at the same time, I don't use them all evenly like Vixy does. They are all just too awesome and it can be a bit troublesome at times to just stick to a favorite or two.
Title: Re: Super Mario Bros. 2 (Doki Doki Panic)
Post by: Hypershell on February 02, 2009, 10:56:30 PM: Quote from: Vixy on February 02, 2009, 10:41:45 PM
How about that one part where they totally skipped Mouser in World 3 and replaced him with Mecha Birdo in Super Mario Advance? =w=;
Actually, the second Mouser is in the game, he was just moved to World 6. They booted the second Triclyde. :'(
Title: Re: Super Mario Bros. 2 (Doki Doki Panic)
Post by: Protoman Blues on February 02, 2009, 11:08:50 PM: Quote from: Acid on February 02, 2009, 10:44:48 PM
Sorry PB. But Toad doesn't hold a candle against Luigi floaty movements (IMO)

Yes, but Luigi sucked in the Underground world. Toad, at least for me, was the best because of how fast his pulling was. I destroyed bosses and got through levels so quickly with him.
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Post by: HyperSonicEXE on February 02, 2009, 11:15:15 PM: Pulling speed didn't help when I needed it most, and that's the Crab boss.

You pretty much have to cross your fingers and judge trajectory.

EDIT: And when I played that as Mario a while back, I thought about waggling the Wiimote, hoping it'd knock the rock back at him ala SMG. 8D
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Post by: Rad Lionheart on February 02, 2009, 11:28:07 PM: I have a bootleg Famicom cartridge laying around in my sisters room, it's Super Mario Bros 2 (The NA version)
Don't know if it works, since I don't own a Famicom. XD
Title: Re: Super Mario Bros. 2 (Doki Doki Panic)
Post by: HokutoNoBen on February 03, 2009, 12:32:21 AM: Quote from: Vixy on February 02, 2009, 10:41:45 PM
How about that one part where they totally skipped Mouser in World 3 and replaced him with Mecha Birdo in Super Mario Advance? =w=;

Considering that there were a grand total of 3 Mousers in the JP original, I guess it only made sense that he would eventually get more downsized along the way (though he was just moved to another level, as Shelly said). Even so, that third Mouser from the original game (5-3's boss) was removed to make room for Clawgrip, one of the first "GIANT ENEMY CRABS!!!!" in gaming, so that's fine. 8D

Quote from: Vixy on February 02, 2009, 10:44:18 PM
If you have to know, I support all 4 of them.

When I play a full game, I tend to switch to each character on each level.
Mario first, then Luigi, then Peach and then Toad in that order.
That way, when the game is over, all of them has 5 points in the ending. ^^

My lady! That's the way I usually tried to do it too! Being fair and all that. 0v0

But in any case, if you really want to blaze through the game, in the quickest way possible, all you really need is Toad, actually.

Toad has the unique property of not only lifting things better than any one else, he also goes FASTER, the heavier the item is! With the right item, he's both the fastest way to get around on foot, as well as through those annoying digging passages. XD

If all you want to do is clear the game in about a half-hour or less (using warps), Toad is your mushroom-man. And if you got either Newtype-esque, pixel-perfect timing (or TA-ing through an emu), you can make it so Toad can get double-jumps to give him more maneuverability. Then that just makes him even better. 8D
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Post by: Protoman Blues on February 03, 2009, 12:44:22 AM: Quote from: Viewtiful Ben on February 03, 2009, 12:32:21 AM
But in any case, if you really want to blaze through the game, in the quickest way possible, all you really need is Toad, actually.

Toad has the unique property of not only lifting things better than any one else, he also goes FASTER, the heavier the item is! With the right item, he's both the fastest way to get around on foot, as well as through those annoying digging passages. XD

If all you want to do is clear the game in about a half-hour or less (using warps), Toad is your mushroom-man. And if you got either Newtype-esque, pixel-perfect timing (or TA-ing through an emu), you can make it so Toad can get double-jumps to give him more maneuverability. Then that just makes him even better. 8D

THANK YOU! 8D
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Post by: Solar on February 03, 2009, 12:51:23 AM: ...I just realized tha I've only ever used about 2 or 3 times in my life.

Anyways, when I play this it's usually Peach/Luigi for me. Mostly Peach because of her floating.
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Post by: Rad Lionheart on February 04, 2009, 02:05:21 AM: My sister took a picture of the cartridge on her desk.
It's not the best of quality.
But anyways, here's the bootleg cartridge I have laying around.

[spoiler](http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/rad_lionheart/Mario2.jpg)[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Super Mario Bros. 2 (Doki Doki Panic)
Post by: HyperSonicEXE on February 04, 2009, 03:30:14 AM: (http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/5557/whatinqz5.th.jpg) (http://img22.imageshack.us/my.php?image=whatinqz5.jpg)

WHAT THE?!
...shortly after I got out of the Negative World, I quickly picked up a small turnip as Toad. Next thing I know, it's stuck on his head, and any items I pick up still work, but I can't see 'em!

...huh?

Also, someone explain the double jump.
Title: Re: Super Mario Bros. 2 (Doki Doki Panic)
Post by: HokutoNoBen on February 04, 2009, 05:47:17 AM: Quote from: HyperSonic.EXE on February 04, 2009, 03:30:14 AM
(http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/5557/whatinqz5.th.jpg) (http://img22.imageshack.us/my.php?image=whatinqz5.jpg)

WHAT THE?!
...shortly after I got out of the Negative World, I quickly picked up a small turnip as Toad. Next thing I know, it's stuck on his head, and any items I pick up still work, but I can't see 'em!

...huh?

Also, someone explain the double jump.

Both of these are rather interesting side-effects/exploits that can occur in the SM2/USA engine. ^_^

To get you started, check this place out.

http://tasvideos.org/SuperMarioBros2Tricks.html

Again, to be able to use these tricks reliably, you either need NewType-style prowess, or you're going to be using emulator tools to assist.
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Post by: Rad Lionheart on February 04, 2009, 05:56:52 AM: That game is chalked full of bugs.
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Post by: Bag of Magic Food on February 04, 2009, 08:31:38 AM: Quote from: Protoman Blues on February 02, 2009, 04:37:19 AM
Ahhh yes. The game where "Luigi Blew It" came from! 8D
Now I need to know what this inside joke is about. It has something to do with singing along to the underground song, right?

Quote from: Protoman Blues on February 02, 2009, 05:36:18 AM
Actually, I think Toad was the best myself. His superior fast pulling ability made him so very very good against enemies and bosses.
Not to mention he can snag you a few more coins if you enjoy the bonus game.

Quote from: HyperSonic.EXE on February 04, 2009, 03:30:14 AM
...shortly after I got out of the Negative World, I quickly picked up a small turnip as Toad. Next thing I know, it's stuck on his head, and any items I pick up still work, but I can't see 'em!
Once you go through a door (or maybe even a ladder, I haven't checked) to a new screen, the object that got stuck to your head becomes throwable again. This can be abused to place Subspace doors where they weren't intended to be, among other things!