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Rockman & Community => Rockman Series => Zero => Topic started by: Align on October 17, 2009, 04:50:55 PM
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A human utopia ruled by X is about as descriptive as it got. Did humans do any work at all or was it all reploid-made?
The people in Z4 certainly weren't devolved slouches, so presumably they got up to more than partying 24/7.
More importantly, was there a currency of some sort (EC?) or did everyone get an equal share of food and furniture/etc given to them? If there was a currency, then that surely means there were companies. Which means adverts.
So if Zero had been in the city proper rather than government and military areas, would he had seen floating neon signs proclaiming Arcadian Buzz as the best drink you could buy?
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Neige was a journalist and Ciel was a scientist, you don't think that's work?
Likewise, André mentioned humans still go to school.
More importantly, was there a currency of some sort (EC?)
Zenny. The most stable currency to ever exist.
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Ciel was geneered for government purposes, wasn't she? But others, yeah.
Probably reploids do the more physical, menial work.
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It's fascist for the robots.
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You sure it was communistic? I couldn't see any signs of communism.
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Neo Arcadia is nothing like communistic ...and I should know it since I live in a land that was communistic...
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It seemed Monarchist, but not communist. It was the Reploids though, who got the short end of the stick, as Keno said.
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I always thought of Neo Arcadia as sort of like "The Second Renaissance" from The Animatrix in terms of what kind of social standpoint Repliroids had in society. They were used as the major workforce for all the heavy labors like construction, cleaning and all the "uncomfortable" things, but humans did still work normally. Yet there's the thing from Vile's Incident which notes that children for the first time of their lives experiences rainfall or sunburns, that kinda sounds like they never really had to bother about anything since they were being taken care of by the state. Plus, other than Ciel, you never really heard of any human complaining about how Repliroids were being treated by Neo Arcadia, so they must have been pretty comfortable with the situation, or were just downright oblivious of the injust actions the Neo Arcadian government put Repliroids through. Ignorance is bliss they say. It's interesting how they think of X as their guardian angel while his own kind is literally treated as third-class citizens just to guarantee mankind's life standard is not affected by the upcoming energy crisis.
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X has always cared more for humans than robots.
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X has always cared more for humans than robots.
No, X cares equally for both humans and Repliroids.
Copy-X is a wholly different matter.
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He never once fought against humans, but despite all his complaining always manages to be OK with fighting reploids. Everybody sees it. The villains all mock him for it.
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That is false. Your claim has no basis because the humans are neither brave nor foolish enough to try and fight against Repliroids, let alone become antagonistic toward the Hunters. X's response toward a human in direct combat is therefore a hypothetical scenario we cannot confirm.
Furthermore, it is a stated fact that X cares equally for both robots and humans. The only way humans are favored is in the social stigma of irregularity, that is, the fear of being branded an irregular and the paranoia that comes with the presence of the virus.
What is comes down to is that X is biased toward neither humans nor Repliroids, he's only biased toward evil.
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And he is capable fighting against a human....Dr. Vile...altough I am not sure if he would fight against him the same way as Zero, who had no regrets fighting a human....
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He's never once cared that much about the misuse of the term Maverick. Sure, he had some polite things to say in X6, but I don't think he really cared. He's a shoot first cry about it later kind of guy, but I think he fakes it.
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The fact that he isnt biased towards any one side is the REASON he is such a wimp. He is doomed to worry constantly about both sides, and never favor one single side.
He's never once cared that much about the misuse of the term Maverick. Sure, he had some polite things to say in X6, but I don't think he really cared. He's a shoot first cry about it later kind of guy, but I think he fakes it.
It is his duty to defeat evil, whether he likes it or not, it has to be done. otherwise, Sigma would get away with killing humanity. The same way, X fought against Weil because if he didnt, then he'd get away with killing off EVERYBODY. Especially reploids.
Plus, X's personality shifts between complaining, and deciding it has to be done. X1-3 we dont really see him complain much. and in MHX he just hesitates. But eventually overcomes that. in the later games like X4-7, he goes from complaining and pleading with his enemies, to outright quitting. only realizing afterward, that only he can really stop it all.
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Every single villain is like "Maybe we're not Maverick" & X is like "Nuh-uh the humans say you are."
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No, X's response to that is the well known fact that his adversaries are all killing millions of innocents and still declare that they're not irregular.
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Epsilon wasn't really killing innocents. His was a political thing. Repliforce was a self-defense case. The Nightmare Investigators weren't even doing anything wrong.
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You mean those people who hijacked a working satellite cannon, those that aimed a mind altering nuke at the world and those that infected the world population with tentacle creatures?
Also, none of them listened and just attacked X.
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He was in their house. In Texas that's legal.
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A house they built illegally in the first place.
plus, we aint in Texas anymore. And not even Zero's ruby red boots can take us there.
X also, in almost every game he talks in, complains "I dont want to fight you!" and tries to reason with them, but like Zan said, they attack him. also, on the Investigators on 6, they were revived illegaly in the first place, and they were aiding in spreading a deadly tentacle virus, out of mostly blind loyalty to Gate. They are still criminals, even if they are good at heart. (Turtloid and Sheldon are prime candidates for this.)
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I can say and know for a fact that X is unbiased based on the fact that it's thoroughly expressed in his bio and throughout the series. X is a fictional character with a fictional bio that's word is law in his fictional world. Sorry to, in a way, break the fourth wall on this but you can't logically think he's faking unbiase when his intended personality is unbiase. Besides there's a difference between a puny human causing trouble and a machine with vastly more powerful weapons promoting fear induced chaos
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X also, in almost every game he talks in, complains "I dont want to fight you!" and tries to reason with them, but like Zan said, they attack him. also, on the Investigators on 6, they were revived illegaly in the first place, and they were aiding in spreading a deadly tentacle virus, out of mostly blind loyalty to Gate. They are still criminals, even if they are good at heart. (Turtloid and Sheldon are prime candidates for this.)
Gate was the only one who opposed their disposal.
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And your point is?
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What would you do in that situation? Go with Gate, who tried to save your life the first time & has now given you a second chance, or go "Thanks a lot Gate but I'm sure those guys won't be too mean to me this time around"?
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He only gave them a second chance because he knew they would blindly follow him for that very reason. he was only using them to further his ambition, and couldn't care less if X destroyed them. all he says is "Congratulations, you defeated my star creations..." no anger over it, in fact, he seemed pleased that X had gotten that far. He was VERY eager to test his battle body on him and Zero.
What he did the first time around is only relevant to his going insane, he became a bitter shut in because of those events, and when Zero's virus ridden DNA drove him mad, he began to act on his darker emotions, like revenge, whereas otherwise, he probably would not have done anything at all, had he not found that piece of Zero.
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You keep saying blind, but, as little as Gate cared for them post-infection, he might have been rather caring prior. &, more to the point, they don't know he's infected or insane. As far as their viewpoints go, the rest of the world stabbed them in the back. Siding with Gate was very logical.
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Before their disposal, he was very proud of them, and cared. once he went mad, he began his idea of his reploid only nation, and revived his creations so that they would do his bidding.
Plus, they KNOW he is up to no good. but they follow him, in many cases, because he revived them. Turtloid himself states that he has been given a second chance at lie, and therefore must follow his master's wishes. He goes so far as to offer his own life to X, since he knows that what he is doing is wrong, but can not dishonor his debt.
Sheldon as well. he failed his duty as a bodyguard, and he has been given a second chance at life, and will redeem himself to Gate.
then there Heatnix, who doesnt really give a [parasitic bomb], and in fact, it works out for him, since from the start he was all for getting rid of weak reploids.
Scravich is a cowardly theif, whom Gate has encouraged to continue stealing. the rest for the most part, were never good at following rules, and a few were snobby. after being revived, they will follow Gate if only because they agree with him, since he is their master.