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Title: A interesting question...regarding Copy X.
Post by: Rin on April 26, 2009, 06:53:28 PM
So, does anyone remember in Zero 3, the cutscene where Harpuia talks with Copy X about his alliance with Dr. Vile. So, in that particular scene, Copy X is sitting on his throne. And he's glowing. Glowing with blue light. I mean, what was up with that? Why was he glowing only this time, and not at any other part of the game? Is Copy X some kind of... BLUE LANTERN?
Title: Re: A interesting question...regarding Copy X.
Post by: matizmatash on April 26, 2009, 06:54:55 PM
Daily dose of FABULOUS?
Title: Re: A interesting question...regarding Copy X.
Post by: RMX on April 26, 2009, 08:10:16 PM
Only the sprite glows, though

(http://www.sprites-inc.co.uk/files/Zero/Zero3/Cutscene/z3_scene12.png)

Maybe the throne serves a purpose and it's not just the Inti equivalent of Aizen's couch
Title: Re: A interesting question...regarding Copy X.
Post by: Blackhook on April 26, 2009, 08:21:02 PM
Nah, he´s just preparing for a Castlevania mock :What is a reploid? *E-crystal shatter* A miserable little pile of screws!
Title: Re: A interesting question...regarding Copy X.
Post by: Align on April 26, 2009, 09:27:29 PM
Doesn't he do it during Z1? Not right before you fight him, but cutscenes throughout the game.
Title: Re: A interesting question...regarding Copy X.
Post by: Rin on April 26, 2009, 09:56:51 PM
Doesn't he do it during Z1? Not right before you fight him, but cutscenes throughout the game.
He doesn't even appear in cutscenes throughout the game.
Title: Re: A interesting question...regarding Copy X.
Post by: Flame on April 27, 2009, 12:09:35 AM
Just to be a nit-picking little twerp; I'd like to point out that the one in Z3 is not Copy X; rather Copy X Mk-II.

As for the glowing; my only guess would be that the throne is a recharge dock for him or something.
so? its still Copy X. its not another copy X, its the same one, revived. the same way that Vile in X3 is Vile Mk ll, and in X8, Mk lll.
Title: Re: A interesting question...regarding Copy X.
Post by: Gotham Ranger on April 27, 2009, 02:19:45 AM
It is clearly used simply for ominous purposes because Copy X is all into the spooky.

But thats not at all the answer you were looking for.
Title: Re: A interesting question...regarding Copy X.
Post by: Flame on April 27, 2009, 03:48:20 AM
not really. the only difference i a stutter. a bug in his vocal systems. he is just overly trusting of Weil ad treats him special due to the fact that he owes him his revival. other than that, they act the same, because they ARE the same. he says that he owes Weil because he brought him back. Weil's specialty is revival of reploids. he revived Copy X just as a pawn to gain entrance to his inner circle, and later, gain control of his job. Weil anticipated that Copy X would fight Zero. he anticipated that he would lose. no, he KNEW he would lose. and he anticipated that Copy X would once again use his seraph transformation against Zero when he lost. to that end, he put a bomb inside him that would be triggered by the activation of the seraph form. by that way, his death could be pinned on Zero, and he, already haven been given control of the military, since the remaining big 3 were stripped of their status as leaders of the military forces, with Weil making them seem like complete utter failures in their job. he planned it all from the beginning. but he needed the Naive Copy X for it. so he brought him back, and Copy X owed him for it. the Mk ll is simply to identify he is the revived copy X. sigma, by now himself, would be around Mk 9. (not counting the first GBC game, as im not sure how Xtreme 1 places since it was all digital...)

savvy?
Title: Re: A interesting question...regarding Copy X.
Post by: Zan on April 27, 2009, 05:21:57 PM
so? its still Copy X. its not another copy X, its the same one, revived. the same way that Vile in X3 is Vile Mk ll, and in X8, Mk lll.

VAVA V

Pente, 5. It is the fifth form of VAVA.

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a bug in his vocal systems

The stutter is only in the English version. In Japanese, he´s the same between ZERO1 and ZERO3. His voice was always a bit weird compared to X´s which ZERO3´s translation just emphasized using the stutter.

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Mk ll is simply to identify he is the revived copy X

It is to identify he's more powerful now. After all Blizzack Staggrof R, Hanumachine R, emphasizes revival by Vile. Anubis Necromancess V works differently as each revival tacks on a higher number. Anubis Necromancess III and Anubis Necromancess IV got beaten in ZERO3. Anubis Necromancess I died during Operation Scorched Earth, but revived itself. II was killed right away when a transport crashed into him. Poor guy. >.>

Title: Re: A interesting question...regarding Copy X.
Post by: VixyNyan on April 27, 2009, 07:00:08 PM
and in X8, Mk lll.

Rockman X1
VAVA (ヴァヴァ)

Rockman X8
VAVA V(ペンテ) = VAVA V (Pente)

Title: Re: A interesting question...regarding Copy X.
Post by: Blackhook on April 27, 2009, 07:16:28 PM

It is to identify he's more powerful now. After all Blizzack Staggrof R, Hanumachine R, emphasizes revival by Vile. Anubis Necromancess V works differently as each revival tacks on a higher number. Anubis Necromancess III and Anubis Necromancess IV got beaten in ZERO3. Anubis Necromancess I died during Operation Scorched Earth, but revived itself. II was killed right away when a transport crashed into him. Poor guy. >.>


Is Anubis  the Kenny of the Megaman series?
Title: Re: A interesting question...regarding Copy X.
Post by: Flame on April 27, 2009, 10:19:30 PM
oops, my bad on the vile thing. also, I remember reading somewhere that in the japanese, Copy X mk ll emphasizes on strange syllables or some such rot.
Title: Re: A interesting question...regarding Copy X.
Post by: Gaia on April 27, 2009, 10:35:52 PM
Actually, I do remember him being a little more nervous "I -- I have trust in him." Is a good example. Copy X MkII shows the diffrence because the first one, he's more arrogant because of his independence, Copy X MkII however, shows more nervousness to show Weil his gratitude of reviving him. Zan also has a good standpoint about wither he planned it before his downfall, but couldn't count on Craft betraying him in 4.
Title: Re: A interesting question...regarding Copy X.
Post by: Zan on April 27, 2009, 10:46:27 PM
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Zan also has a good standpoint about wither he planned it before his downfall, but couldn't count on Craft betraying him in 4.

Come again?

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Is Anubis  the Kenny of the Megaman series?

Everybody is when Zero's involved.

And the part about the transport crashing into him was half joking by Inti. (Which seems true given ZERO1.)
Title: Re: A interesting question...regarding Copy X.
Post by: Gaia on April 27, 2009, 10:49:24 PM
Weil had everything planned out from the start, but he failed to notice something was wrong with Craft, which was the point of seduction. "I CAN'T BELIVE IT! Seduced by the sweet words of a woman!", which comes to show his suprise of his plan backfiring on him, so the last resort was crashing the colony down on Area Zero.
Title: Re: A interesting question...regarding Copy X.
Post by: Zan on April 27, 2009, 11:05:27 PM
Craft was actually a deliberate loose cannon. He was the soldier that was close to the humans, unlike the big4 that were considered as wardens. By putting someone like that in charge of operation Ragnarok, Vile trashed the human's spirit. All to further his agenda of creating a war without winners or losers; only a bleak land of death.

Whilst getting blasted with a laser cannon was not entirely expected, it actually furthered that very agenda unwillingly by Craft. As long as Vile subsequently destroyed Area Zero, he would have won. The destruction of Neo Arcadia only furthered the anarchy. The destruction of Zero and Vile's resurrection from the ashes only furher seals the deal.

Of course, that's a far cry from his ideal scenario of just blasting everything to hell but himself and ruling over the remains. He got a bit more hurt thanks to Craft, but what's a laser cannon and a satellite drop compared to a century of suffering?

All in all Craft's action was a double edged sword, it didn't defeat Vile and only furthered his insane plans, but all the same it allowed Zero the precious time to stop the destruction of Area Zero. Both their efforts in the end caused Repliroids and humans to unite for the new era.
Title: Re: A interesting question...regarding Copy X.
Post by: Hypershell on April 28, 2009, 02:49:05 AM
VAVA V

Pente, 5. It is the fifth form of VAVA.
One more reason we need more Xtremes...
Title: Re: A interesting question...regarding Copy X.
Post by: SoulAnimal on April 28, 2009, 03:15:16 AM
Are we even talking about the glow anymore?

I think he did it to be fabulous  :\
Title: Re: A interesting question...regarding Copy X.
Post by: Gauntlet101010 on April 28, 2009, 06:45:51 AM
So, does anyone remember in Zero 3, the cutscene where Harpuia talks with Copy X about his alliance with Dr. Vile. So, in that particular scene, Copy X is sitting on his throne. And he's glowing. Glowing with blue light. I mean, what was up with that? Why was he glowing only this time, and not at any other part of the game? Is Copy X some kind of... BLUE LANTERN?

He can't be blue; he isn't about great hope!  He's more of a yellow guy.