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Rockman & Community => Rockman Series => X => Topic started by: Waifu on February 15, 2010, 02:45:46 AM
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In the first few games Mavericks simply meant Reploid criminals who attacked and terrorized humans due to either a flaw in their design or the being infected with the Virus but as the series progressed, it soon began to permeate into Reploids who defy the government or other political opponents who had been unjustly caled mavericks. It soon kind of got to a point when Neo Arcadia rose to power and began to mean who considered to be anyone who suspected to be an enemy of Neo Arcadia, even if the accusation was false. After playing Mega Man X4 and Command Mission, I have to wonder what exactly is the deal with the term "Maverick" anyway? Prior to Zero joining the Maverick Hunters and the advent of the Maverick Virus, the "Mavericks" rebelled out of their free will or merely due to flaws in their design as Dr. Cain couldn't fully replicate x's design very well.
That is not to say that all the bosses in series were merely virus infectees, some like Vile were looking were just looking for opponents to fight while others were political opponenets who wanted to liberate the Reploids from their human oppressors. There some innocent victims during the Maverick Wars such as Dr. Doppler who manipulated by Sigma into creating a brand new battle body for Sigma while creating placebos to spread throughout Dopplertown, under the guise that he had found a cure for the infected Reploids. Repliforce rebelled against the humans due to large misunderstanding that cost countless lives that could had all been avoided if they simply complied with the Hunters but they would rather fight than lose their pride and was thus called Maverick. The Rebellion in Command Mission simply rebelled out of their own free will and the desire to create a world for Reploids. Even Sigma merely used the Virus to help Reploids explore their full potential, however it is important to note that the Virus has been known to bring out the violent side of Reploids.
I don't understand how Gate, Repliforce, the Resistance (Zero series), Dr. Doppler and others can be Maverick if they were victims in some way in the Maverick Wars? Can the term "Maverick" be a misnomer or is it justified in some way?
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Some are justified. I feel others could've simply been avoided(Repliforce). There may have been some that are unfairly accused of being "Maverick".
I think if there was a clear, consise definition of a "maverick", the latter could be avoided.
I think a lot of this is what goes in X's mind, everytime he shoots, and how long will he have to keep battling mavericks? Would him and Zero both go maverick someday?
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You know, the term "maverick" would make a whole lot more sense if you'd just started thinking of it as "irregular".
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The original Mega Man was a maverick because he tried to kill Wily. X would have retired him in a heartbeat.
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You know, the term "maverick" would make a whole lot more sense if you'd just started thinking of it as "irregular".
Soory about but I was writing what was on my mind about the term, "Maverick" and "Irregular" concerning the foes X fights in ther series.
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Irregular means "out of the ordinary." or in any case, "not normal"
that should be taken into consideration when evaluating the term Irregular/Maverick
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Or you could look up what "maverick" itself means, which is literally a nonconformist. It's not that far from "irregular", the two are pretty close. Granted, the etymology of "irregular" is more self-explanatory, but I think the issue is that people look at the context of MegaMan expecting to find some behavioral offense to define the label.
And that need not be the case. Think of the term "Maverick" in MegaMan games as a psychological issue, and as with all psychological issues (whether of health or of belief), defining it is a somewhat loose concept open to some degree of interpretation. You cannot quantify one's mind and their ideas the way you can, say, their temperature; you rather have to observe their behavior and judge for yourself what pattern it fits into. It is only natural that there be differences in opinion on where the line is drawn in such judgments, and that over time, said opinions may change.
"Didn't Epsilon tell you? Only future generations can judge whether we are truly Maverick or not."
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The original Mega Man was a maverick because he tried to kill Wily. X would have retired him in a heartbeat.
[spoiler]Yea, the ending of Megaman 7 did show a maverick side of Megaman...but can you really blame him? I'm behind megaman pulling the trigger myself.[/spoiler]
Or better yet, instead of putting Wily in Jail like they did in 6, immediately execute him, assuming megaman does get a chance to catch him again.
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You do know that he never actually threatened Wily verbally?
he may have aimed at him and considered it, but Wily left him speechless when he said robots cant harm humans.
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he may have aimed at him and considered it, but Wily left him speechless when he said robots cant harm humans.
Not true. Megaman said he was more than a robot.
He was totally going to kill him.
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He ISN'T more than a robot.
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He's a murder bot.
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"Didn't Epsilon tell you? Only future generations can judge whether we are truly Maverick or not."
It's pretty much nothing else than bias and childish name calling with consequences of life and death.
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You do know that he never actually threatened Wily verbally?
he may have aimed at him and considered it, but Wily left him speechless when he said robots cant harm humans.
Uhh, not in Megaman 7. Maybe in Rockman 7, but not in Megaman 7.
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English translations are derivative works. For broad story implications the original takes precedence.
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Uhh, not in Megaman 7. Maybe in Rockman 7, but not in Megaman 7.
Rockman 7 is what counts. Megaman 7 has translation errors, by the localization team doing a very bad job.
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You know, the term "maverick" would make a whole lot more sense if you'd just started thinking of it as "irregular".
But then we would start making jokes about constipation! 8D
Not true. Megaman said he was more than a robot.
He was totally going to kill him.
Oh great, you just HAD to bring up the localization of 7's ending AGAIN, didn't you. Like we all just love seeing that one batted back and forth forever.
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Oh great, you just HAD to bring up the localization of 7's ending AGAIN, didn't you. Like we all just love seeing that one batted back and forth forever.
Actually, I do.
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Oh great, you just HAD to bring up the localization of 7's ending AGAIN, didn't you. Like we all just love seeing that one batted back and forth forever.
Actually, I do.
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Retarded Icecream <3
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Suddenly, Wily II comes and saves Wily!
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Suddenly, Wily II comes and saves Wily!
Why would I do that?
... 8D
... [eyebrow]
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Because 2 Wily's are better than 1.
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Nah, I prefer to take over from him. [eyebrow]
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You'd probably nudge him 'accidentally' into the line of fire, am I right? XD
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8D
But enough derailment. XD
Back to main topic!
(To which I have nothing to add... >U<)
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Speaking of mavericks, why hasn't there been any effort in the X series to reform the Mavericks and get them back into society? Why hasn't some Reploids been cleared of their Maverick status?
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Off Topic: Why doesn't Mega Man just shoot him?
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It's a possibility that they would attempt to reform a Maverick if they could capture him/ her, although the virus might make it irreversible? I think the only redemption would be for those who had problems with their circuitry, or just finally had enough of the humans and just lost all patience with them.
At least I would guess that's how it is. -u-'
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So the humans had lost patience with just reforming in Reploids and just want them scrapped but are laws all that diffreef for Reploids in the future if they are thinking and acting like humans?
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Possibly. I doubt humans would allow them the same rights, most would probably still and only see them as tools for aiding a human and nothing more. Bigotry and abuse could also follow as well since a reploid should not fight back without severe repercussions.
So I don't believe they would have the same rights, despite how human they may be, at least for a long while.
But reformations were probably more common until Sigma went off the deep end with the virus.
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Possibly. I doubt humans would allow them the same rights, most would probably still and only see them as tools for aiding a human and nothing more. Bigotry and abuse could also follow as well since a reploid should not fight back without severe repercussions.
So I don't believe they would have the same rights, despite how human they may be, at least for a long while.
But reformations were probably more common until Sigma went off the deep end with the virus.
I don't know about reformations, but capturing and imprisoning reploids is considered a viable option at least at the start of the X series. Vile was imprisoned rather then destroyed on sight. It seems that Vile was considered a fairly destructive Maverick, so if he was simply put in prison, then it stands to reason that some Mavericks might also be captured rather then immediately retired.
Of course, these captured Mavericks might simply be held for trials or public executions. The series doesn't seem to specify.
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Vile is described by Zero as a "borderline Maverick", I don't think he was officially judged as one at that time. He was at that time a Hunter; destructive yes, and thus reprimanded.
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I think the term Irregular could be more along the lines of Reploids that just have defects or don't question superiors or authority. Mavericks on the other hand seem to go against the grain by they're own will alone. This would of course cause some debacle between whether certain Mavericks were labelled correctly as Mavericks when they could just be Irregulars. Some examples of said Mavericks would be Storm Eagle and Armorred Armadillo, both went "Maverick" as it were by they're own will which makes them truely Mavericks and not Irregulars. Some examples of Irregulars; ie Repoloids that go "Maverick" only because they do not question they're superiors would be anybody who just gets infected with the virus or is just Irregualar because of flaws they have no control of. Now...for Crush Crawfish I cannot be certain because (correct me if I'm wrong) I'm read somewhere he is just totally insane so I don't know if that would make him a Maverick because he obviously questions authority if he kills, but at the same time he could be an Irregular because if someone is crazy it's because they have something wrong from the get-go. For Wheel Gator there is a problem as well as he only wants to cause destruction so he could either be Irregular or Maverick depending on one's views as to how important certain values of order are to determine one's sanity.
It's all really as derivative as it would be to classify who is a rebel and who isn't in a society and to the level of their rebelliosness you could classify people as anarchists or reformers.
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Aren't they the same except for translation issues?
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Well, I think Mavericks could be reformed...eventually...it would take a large amount of R&D to fully develop a cure to the Zero/Sigma Virus before Rehabilitation and Reformation could be remotely possible. Until then, these Mavericks would have to be shut down for a Marginally Long Period of Time.
I doubt the term "Maverick" is entirely justified. Many of these "Mavericks" were former Service Reploids who were afflicted by a Virus that caused them to go Berserk, Rather than having Chosen to Go Berserk.
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I had a thought today about the whole Maverick thing and how in the real world we tend o demonize the "enemy" only to find we are not so different. In the first game the objective was claer, a few reploids go Irregular and you must stop them but when you really get into the meat of the series, we find that some of them are really just innocent victims or victims of circumstance that is Reploids who had been wrongly accused of being Maverick and were defending themselves from their accusers. Sigma himself wanted to free the Reploids from their human oppressors as well as restore his tattered pride, he saw the Virus as means to an end and he had a master plan but as we learn in Mega Man X4 and 6, it is know possible for humans and Reploids to be completely separated form each other. The Reploids need humans just as much as the humans need Reploids, there is no world exclusively for Reploids as it is only a fleeting dream. Now with the new generation of reploids appearing complete witht he copy chips, it is becoming more difficult to find who is the Maverick and who is not. What do you guys think of this?