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Title: X8 virus refrences
Post by: Jetfire on January 05, 2010, 06:29:31 PM
In X8 Zero reflects his bitterness about being used to create a virus. But Sigma never used him to create a virus-Gate did. Sigma used Zero as justification for the colony incident but never created a virus from his body. So why blame him for the Nightmare?
Title: Re: X8 virus refrences
Post by: Blackhook on January 05, 2010, 06:30:33 PM
Bacause it´s hard to blame a guy in coma
Title: Re: X8 virus refrences
Post by: Zan on January 05, 2010, 07:21:11 PM
http://www.themmnetwork.com/wiki/index.php?title=Zero_Virus
Title: Re: X8 virus refrences
Post by: Jetfire on January 05, 2010, 08:06:33 PM
So why exactly did mixing the Colonly virus (which was the same Sigma virus as the one on earth) with the Sigma Virus on Earth create the Zero Virus if the Zero Virus was not the original virus in the first place. I thought that the Sigma virus was the Zero virus fused with Sigma's mind and half way diminished due to his advanced circuitry.

Title: Re: X8 virus refrences
Post by: Zan on January 05, 2010, 08:14:15 PM
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So why exactly did mixing the Colonly virus (which was the same Sigma virus as the one on earth) with the Sigma Virus on Earth create the Zero Virus

The virus from the colony is NOT the same thing as the Sigma Virus. Also, because the colony virus was designed to do so. Sigma needed something better than the original Sigma Virus to achieve Zero's awakening. The mixing of the colony virus with Sigma Virus achieved that by creating the Zero Virus.

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I thought that the Sigma virus was the Zero virus fused with Sigma's mind and half way diminished due to his advanced circuitry.

That is your misconception. Zero was the first infect with "Sigma Virus", having been born with it inside of him. The very same Sigma Virus that would eventually become one with Sigma after it had passed on to him from Zero.

http://www.themmnetwork.com/wiki/index.php?title=Sigma_Virus

Aside from the whole entry, I point you toward the first trivia:

Originally "Maverick Virus" was the term used to describe the computer virus that turns Reploids into Mavericks. Since the events of Mega Man X3 it is more commonly referred to as the "Sigma Virus" instead of the "Maverick Virus". From Mega Man X2 to Mega Man X4 resources alternate between "Sigma Virus","Maverick Virus" or describing it as a "Maverick-facilitating virus", a "virus that facilitates Maverick behavior", a "Maverick converting virus". From Mega Man X5 and onward, resources began to use "Sigma Virus" as the only name by which the virus is known, regardless of it being inappropriate in reference to the time of before Sigma's infection; since then the term "Maverick Virus" is seldom, if ever used.
Title: Re: X8 virus refrences
Post by: Jetfire on January 05, 2010, 08:28:42 PM
So what was the colony virus made of?
Title: Re: X8 virus refrences
Post by: Zan on January 05, 2010, 08:32:14 PM
Same thing as both the Sigma Virus and Zero Virus, just programmed differently, with the objective of causing a virus reaction with the Sigma Virus.
Title: Re: X8 virus refrences
Post by: Flame on January 05, 2010, 08:36:14 PM
Im pretty sure Wily, the mysterious friend of Sigma's in X5, made the Colony virus.
And, like Zan said, specifically so that it would interact with the Sigma Virus to make the Zero Virus.
Title: Re: X8 virus refrences
Post by: Zan on January 05, 2010, 08:39:22 PM
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Im pretty sure Wily, the mysterious friend of Sigma's in X5, made the Colony virus.

It's not explained who made it. Only that Sigma used it on Eurasia, which caused the creation of the Zero Virus after a virus reaction, hence, Sigma made the Zero Virus. Even though we don't know who made the colony virus.
Title: Re: X8 virus refrences
Post by: Flame on January 05, 2010, 08:59:28 PM
Yes, but Sigma was pretty much following Wily like a dog on this one, out of his intense curiosity and amusement at how obsessed this guy was with Zero, and of his claims that Zero, given enough viral exposure, could be "purified" into his real self. I think only Wily, knowing his baby best, would know enough specifics to create a virus that upon interacting with Sigma's, could create a NEW virus that was not only BASED on Zero, but was powerful enough that in the alternate scenario, it was actually able to awaken him if the shuttle mission went bad.

Sigma himself is apparently smart enough to create reploids, (Dark Necrobat/Dizzy) But I dont think he's THAT smart enough to do THAT.
Title: Re: X8 virus refrences
Post by: Hypershell on January 06, 2010, 01:51:25 AM
Since Sigma admits to spreading the virus under Wily's direction, I think it's a fairly safe bet that Wily designed the Colony Virus, regardless of whether it was him or Sigma who got the hands-on part of the job.  It is speculation, yes, but I do feel it's most likely.
Title: Re: X8 virus refrences
Post by: Mirby on January 07, 2010, 10:58:10 PM
Remember in X5 that as things got worse, Zero got stronger. I think; been a while. Zan? or someone else who can help?

I think it's because his systems react with the colony virus, amplifying his strength in some way. Correct me if I wrong, which I have a feeling I am.
Title: Re: X8 virus refrences
Post by: Zan on January 07, 2010, 11:05:17 PM
Zero never was in contact with the virus from the colony.

Zero experiences sudden boosts in power when it contact with the Sigma Virus and Zero Virus because they purify his systems. This is all explained in the two links I posted above.
Title: Re: X8 virus refrences
Post by: Mirby on January 07, 2010, 11:06:06 PM
Ah. That's what I was trying to get at, I think... Thanks though!
Title: Re: X8 virus refrences
Post by: Flame on January 07, 2010, 11:11:05 PM
One thing. Was the intro stage on earth, or on Eurasia? Im not sure anymore. The way the cutscene handles it, it makes it seem like Sigma was having the colony leak out while fighting them...
help?
Title: Re: X8 virus refrences
Post by: Mirby on January 07, 2010, 11:14:54 PM
I always thought it was on Eurasia. Then X & Zero warp back to Earth to do what they can to stop the imminent collision.
Title: Re: X8 virus refrences
Post by: Align on January 07, 2010, 11:21:32 PM
Doesn't it say something about the Sigma virus being spread all over the world after the giant head explodes? It'd have to be on the planet then.
Title: Re: X8 virus refrences
Post by: Zan on January 07, 2010, 11:24:10 PM
The intro stage is on Earth, but the intro cutscene with Dynamo is on Eurasia.
Title: Re: X8 virus refrences
Post by: Flame on January 07, 2010, 11:25:08 PM
Ah, Ok. its all clearer now. I used to think it was on Eurasia.
Title: Re: X8 virus refrences
Post by: Mirby on January 07, 2010, 11:27:57 PM
Okay. That makes more sense.

I think Zan is actually the supercomputer Capcom uses to store all their Mega Man info or something.
Title: Re: X8 virus refrences
Post by: Flame on January 08, 2010, 12:01:58 AM
Okay. That makes more sense.

I think Zan is actually the supercomputer Capcom uses to store all their Mega Man info or something.
No, He's the megaman fan community's compiled knowledge of Megaman gained sentience.
Title: Re: X8 virus refrences
Post by: Zan on January 08, 2010, 12:05:02 AM
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No, He's the megaman fan community's compiled knowledge of Megaman gained sentience.

I am NOT equal to the MegaMan Knowledge Database, the very thought alone sickens me!
Title: Re: X8 virus refrences
Post by: Flame on January 08, 2010, 12:05:43 AM
Megaman knowledge base? You mean you think that actually counts?
Title: Re: X8 virus refrences
Post by: Zan on January 08, 2010, 12:16:42 AM
No, it means the fan community's compiled knowledge is fanon.
Title: Re: X8 virus refrences
Post by: Flame on January 08, 2010, 12:19:39 AM
MMKB never counted. I mean ACTUAL information.
Title: Re: X8 virus refrences
Post by: Turian on January 08, 2010, 02:24:13 AM
Zan is the combination of the colony virus, sigma virus and zero virus, brought back to life by the powerfull cyber elf sex slaves on rpm's servers!
Title: Re: X8 virus refrences
Post by: Archer on January 08, 2010, 02:29:39 AM
And here I thought Zan was the Megaman Faerie.
Title: Re: X8 virus refrences
Post by: Zan on January 08, 2010, 02:48:13 AM
*Waits for MarshmallowMan to jump in with lots of Japanese scribbles*
Title: Re: X8 virus refrences
Post by: Blackhook on January 09, 2010, 01:56:52 PM
You are overthinking it a little...
*Waits for MarshmallowMan to jump in with lots of Japanese scribbles*
Never thought to see this happen