The Z Buster

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on: May 27, 2009, 09:51:05 AM
What exactly is the power this thing packs in X5 and X6? Its slow in X5 and pretty meh, but everyone where I've read about X6 says its more powerful. I've notice both seem more powerful at close range, but other than that I really don't see how much energy these things take from an enemy. Anyone got any info on it in comparison to the X Buster?



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Reply #1 on: May 27, 2009, 10:00:21 AM
It is close to that of an X Buster charge shot. Just in X6 it seems to gain more hits the closer you are to the target.



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Reply #2 on: May 27, 2009, 10:13:12 AM
Makes me wish they still had the easy "Charge Shot =  3 Units" system.



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Reply #3 on: May 27, 2009, 11:12:34 AM
That same system used the "Dash Shot = 2 Units" as well. That was fun.



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Reply #4 on: May 27, 2009, 11:35:48 AM
More momentum behind the shot!

It always disappointed me how limited the Z Buster was anyways. You can't do anything with it unless you're standing still.



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Reply #5 on: May 27, 2009, 03:37:38 PM
Except when you fight Zero, He seems to make pretty DAMN good use of it despite those limitations. ]:(

...When Larry the reploid accountant goes maverick of his own accord, he's certainly formidable during tax season, but he isn't going to provide X the challenge needed to make him grow as a warrior and reach his potential.


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Reply #6 on: May 27, 2009, 07:43:49 PM
X5 Z Buster is weak and slow as [parasitic bomb]. never use it.

X6 is much faster, and hits really hard. spam it at close range, it can take down bosses really quick. i'd say Z Buster is better than the X Buster in X6, but that's like saying a dog turd is better than the X Buster.

MHX Z Buster is fun to fool around with. it kills Vile in 2 hits.

but X3's is the best.


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Reply #7 on: May 27, 2009, 09:50:04 PM
The Z-buster in X6 is the best buster ever when coupled with the ultimate buster chip. It is really crazy, you should try it.



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Reply #8 on: May 27, 2009, 09:51:33 PM
The Z-buster in X6 is the best buster ever when coupled with the ultimate buster chip. It is really crazy, you should try it.

THIS. Rapid spam Z Buster = "Holy [twin slasher] Batman!"



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Reply #9 on: May 27, 2009, 09:53:32 PM
I'm trying my best to enjoy X6 as I reply through it, but holy crap it is one frikken huge step down from even X5. I didn't know the Ultimate Buster chip could be equiped with it, though.



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Reply #10 on: May 27, 2009, 09:53:39 PM
i never used it.



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Reply #11 on: May 27, 2009, 10:08:59 PM
I'm trying my best to enjoy X6 as I reply through it, but holy crap it is one frikken huge step down from even X5.
You sure you're not mistaking the overall difficulty difference for the weapons being weaker?



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Reply #12 on: May 27, 2009, 11:57:00 PM
X5 Z Buster is weak and slow as [parasitic bomb]. never use it.
and has impossibly terrible range. even x6's has better range

...When Larry the reploid accountant goes maverick of his own accord, he's certainly formidable during tax season, but he isn't going to provide X the challenge needed to make him grow as a warrior and reach his potential.


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Reply #13 on: May 28, 2009, 06:21:50 AM
You sure you're not mistaking the overall difficulty difference for the weapons being weaker?
This. X6 actually fixed many of the stupid gameplay mistakes that plagued X5.



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Reply #14 on: May 28, 2009, 06:23:27 AM
The Z-buster in X6 is the best buster ever when coupled with the ultimate buster chip. It is really crazy, you should try it.

Ultimate Buster is an X-only chip. you're probably thinking of Buster Plus.


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Reply #15 on: May 28, 2009, 06:44:25 AM
You sure you're not mistaking the overall difficulty difference for the weapons being weaker?
X6 has absolutely terrible levels. X5's isn't the greatest, but its alot better than X6's.



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Reply #16 on: May 28, 2009, 07:33:14 AM
to each their own. at least X6 doesn't have a mandatory autoscrolling stage.


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Reply #17 on: May 28, 2009, 07:48:14 AM
Yeah, but thats the worst level in the entire game. Then again.. Alot of the levels weren't all that memorable..

Jesus, how'd the go wrong after X4?

Back on the Z-Buster, it doesn't even go full screen in X5.



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Reply #18 on: May 28, 2009, 08:59:23 AM
X6 had challenging level design. Thats why its good... It overwhelms you with enemies,  forcing you to actually use a few of the weapons you've acquired.
dunno. thats just me.

...When Larry the reploid accountant goes maverick of his own accord, he's certainly formidable during tax season, but he isn't going to provide X the challenge needed to make him grow as a warrior and reach his potential.


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Reply #19 on: May 28, 2009, 12:01:32 PM
X6 has absolutely terrible levels. X5's isn't the greatest, but its alot better than X6's.
That wasn't what I asked...



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Reply #20 on: May 28, 2009, 12:07:45 PM
I never noticed weapon weakening between the games. My biggest grievance isn't X6's difficulty, but its level design



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Reply #21 on: May 28, 2009, 08:26:49 PM
Back on the Z-Buster, it doesn't even go full screen in X5.

it doesn't in X6 either. but i'm pretty sure it travels further.


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Reply #22 on: May 29, 2009, 12:11:02 AM
Okay, I have a question related to this topic. Since Zero 1, Zero has the Bustershot from Milan. From what I have heard, Inti Creates said that the Bustershot was always in Zero´s arsenal even before the Zero 1 occured. I know that the Bustershot is only a design change from a arm cannon to a pistol.
Now to the point. When the Bustershot was always part of his arsenal, then Dr. Wily´s intention was to give him pistols instead of two arm cannons (Omega uses a pistol). Now imagine this with Zero´s first death or his shot on Sigma in the X5 ending. Zero:" X take my Bustershot and defeat Sigma...." for example.  Somewhat ridiculous when I watch X, which has still a arm cannon.
Wouldn´t be a arm cannon be more effective than a pistol ( in utilizing of energy wise) and making more sense than pistols? IMO Axl should be the only one with pistols.



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Reply #23 on: May 29, 2009, 07:38:55 AM
Since Zero 1, Zero has the Bustershot from Milan.

manga ain't canon.

for the rest, the handheld buster acts exactly the same an arm-mounted buster in the Zero series. it's just a design choice.


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Reply #24 on: May 29, 2009, 08:04:52 AM
manga ain't canon.
This is one of the extra-games thing, but Creates itself stated circa the release of Z1 (I think around the OST release in its booklet or something) Zero took Milan's gun.

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