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Solar · **Reply #75 on:** September 23, 2010, 09:13:47 PM

My guess? Their fathers.

Ephidiel · **Reply #76 on:** September 23, 2010, 11:37:50 PM

thats Isaac and Garet

Mirby · **Reply #77 on:** September 24, 2010, 06:30:26 AM

Yeah, it's Issac and Garet.

Fariator · **Reply #78 on:** September 24, 2010, 09:55:19 AM

Yeah, I can believe that. Just that their new costumes sorta make them look like wholly different characters.

Is there any info how big time gap is there between The Lost Age and Dark Dawn?

Mirby · **Reply #79 on:** September 30, 2010, 11:38:40 PM

http://forum.rockmanpm.com/index.php?topic=809.msg255629#msg255629

Try this post from earlier in this very topic.

Also, they're in the same poses as in the GBA games. That was the clincher for me.

Posted on: September 24, 2010, 01:02:15 AM

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKs3iNSaKZo[/youtube]

Quote from: ME!

I assembled this myself from 8 short videos found off of the games official Japanese site. The Djinni images were also ripped from there.

I placed them in order of characters you gained in the original (Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Mercury = Isaac, Garet, Ivan, Mia). It took me all day to get this ready, but I hope you all enjoy it!

Music, Graphics, Scenario, and Program copyright 2010 Nintendo and Camelot Software Planning.

Posted on: September 28, 2010, 07:53:00 PM

just because it's easier, I'm posting a condensed chat log describing the info here

Quote

<Mirby> http://www.nintendoeverything.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/golden_sun_dark_dawn_scan_jump2.jpg
<Mirby> i can't read it, but still
<OCRE> let's see here
<Mirby> new enemies shown (spade and heart?)
<OCRE> Looks like we got a ne- yeah
<OCRE> lol
<Mirby> what I like
<Mirby> is how every single djinn has a unique appearance
<OCRE> and is that little Eoleo
<OCRE> all growed up
<Mirby> possibly!
<Mirby> yes, that's how it translates
<Mirby> actually, it's Reoreo, but what else could that be
<Mirby> wonder if he'll be an ally
<OCRE>
<OCRE> I bet.
<OCRE> or maybe he'll be an enemy at firt
<OCRE> first
<Mirby> probably; I'm sure that his mum won't forget what Felix did for him
<OCRE> lol
<Mirby> and for Briggs, and for Champa
<OCRE> or his grandmother
<Mirby> Her too
<Mirby>
<Mirby> quote from the guy who linked that pic to me
<Mirby> <LordHuffnPuff> Other characters will be added to your party (temporarily?)
<Mirby> <LordHuffnPuff> Including Isaac and Garet
<OCRE> ah
<OCRE> that's ok
<Mirby> kinda like Jenna in the first game, but more often
<Mirby> that's what I'm guessing
<OCRE> yeah
<Mirby> Anyways, while playing through GS2, two lines said by characters caught me. Mind Read Kushinada in Izumo after learning Sand and she thinks, "If Felix's descendants are ever in trouble, our Takeru will rush to their aid." Takeru is what she's gonna name her son. Also, after beating Doom Dragon, enter the house east of the Inn in Prox. The man says, "I think the rift to the north started receding when the lighthouse was lit." His wife says, "I wonder if that hole up north has stopped growing. What if it starts again?" So there might be an event in Izumo in GSDS, and there might be a much larger Weyard to explore too. Because if the rift visibly receded in the minutes following the lighting of the Mars Beacon, however much time has passed in GSDS should be sufficient for Weyard to be fully nourished and have regained it's former splendor and size. Which is pretty cool!
<Mirby> I told that to a friend in an email
<OCRE> oh yeah
<OCRE> absolutely deliberate
<OCRE> I love Camelot
<OCRE> they really put their heart and soul into their games
<Mirby> they do
<Mirby> still, larger Weyard to explore
<OCRE> yup
<OCRE> though I wouldn't count on being able to visit
<Mirby> <LordHuffnPuff> Screenshot 1: Four characters Matthew, Karis, Crown, Eoleo
<Mirby> <LordHuffnPuff> Screenshot 2: Eoleo says "Are you trying to make me indebted to you?"
<OCRE> the WHOLE of weyard
<OCRE> ha
<Mirby> it's possible
<Mirby> <LordHuffnPuff> On the enemy side of the page
<Mirby> <LordHuffnPuff> Tsaparang is a military nation conducting secret maneuvers
<Mirby> <LordHuffnPuff> They excel in science and military power. For some reason their commander contacts your party.
<Mirby> <LordHuffnPuff> They appear all over and seem to be making use of you.
<Mirby> <LordHuffnPuff> Screen 1: Spade "I shouldn't belittle you. Now I have to finish you here."
<Mirby> <LordHuffnPuff> Screen 2: Heart "What a troublesome group of children..."
<Mirby> http://www.dotup.org/uploda/www.dotup.org1174069.jpg <--better quality scan
<Mirby> you can easily see some examples of the uniqueness of the djinni's appearance
<Mirby> <LordHuffnPuff> Profiles:
<Mirby> <LordHuffnPuff> Spade: A warlike swordsman with "sword" as his name that stands in front of Matthew & Co.
<Mirby><LordHuffnPuff> Heart: A commander of Tsaparang. She gets close to important persons from other countries using her bewitching beauty as a weapon.
<Mirby> <LordHuffnPuff> Eoleo is the "Prince of the Pirates"
<OCRE>
<Mirby> ^.^
<OCRE> thanks for tellin i
<Mirby> no prob
<OCRE> i think I'll wait for the final game for any more into though
<OCRE> since it's so close
<Mirby> yeah, that's a good idea
<Mirby> but now we know that eoleo returns
<OCRE> yeah
<OCRE> i had hoped for that
<Mirby> which means there's a good chance of other characters returning
<Mirby> as well

Bolded and colored in red are quotes that translate info on the page. The rest is just speculation between OCRE and me.

STM · **Reply #80 on:** October 01, 2010, 03:14:08 AM

Eoleo and Takeru would be welcome party members. I wonder who else will join as well as who the heck Harmony is, though the model looked like that of a generic soldier.

Acid · **Reply #81 on:** October 01, 2010, 03:15:28 AM

This really can't come quickly enough.

Solar · **Reply #82 on:** October 01, 2010, 03:30:01 AM

Yes it can, I still haven't saved money for it and this is one of those games that I seriously must have a physical copy instead of a having it on my flashcard D:

Mirby · **Reply #83 on:** October 01, 2010, 03:32:28 AM

I put 5 bucks down on a preorder for it.

STM · **Reply #84 on:** October 01, 2010, 03:43:52 AM

So, found this little trinket on my travels: rumored parent lineage of each of the four mains.

As always, take with a grain of salt, but these seem pretty damn probable.

-Matthew: Isaac and Jenna
...Yeah, this one was pretty damn obvious, especially after he was seen using a fire psynergy.

-Tyrell: Garet and some NPC
Leave it to Garet to not get someone from the main party.

-Karis: Piers and Sheba
...Oh boy, this one's going to [acid burst] off a lot of people. Aside from being a wind adept and somewhat resembling her mother, her green hair (previously unseen in the series) may be the result of some genetic allele breaking breeding where blonde and blue become green. Seems a bit of a stretch but...

Crown: Ivan and Mia
Another controversial one, but I can somewhat see this one for being obvious kind and gentle staff user, the hair color, and kinda looking like Ivan.

...uh oh... That's seven accounted for. Guess who went solo...

Felix: Forever Alone (as far as we know)

If this list holds true, expect so many shippers to flip their [parasitic bomb].

Mirby · **Reply #85 on:** October 01, 2010, 04:39:03 AM

Issac and Jenna
Felix and Sheba

These two are givens. Considering that the first was heavily hinted on, and the second is possible (I'm sure he had other reasons for saving her when Venus Lighthouse fell)

I'm calling Mia and Ivan, personally.

I'm also adding in genetics here. (see Mars Lighthouse; Kyle is Venus, son is too. Jenna's mom is Mars, so is she. Felix's dad is Venus, so is he. So gender relations here)

This means that Matthew (Venus) is Isaac's son (with Jenna no doubt), Karis (Jupiter) is Sheba's daughter (with Felix I'm sure), Tyrell (Mars) is Garet's son (with someone else, who knows who), and Crown (Mercury) is... Piers? I'm still not sure on Crown's gender. I've heard Male, which means that would be the only way it would work with main party members and genetics as shown in TLA.

Then again, genetics could be wrong from my assumption and Crown could be Mia's son and still be Mercury.

Acid · **Reply #86 on:** October 02, 2010, 02:35:24 AM

I want Alex to return. As the villain. Or last character to join.

Mirby · **Reply #87 on:** October 02, 2010, 02:39:24 AM

CROWN IS ALEX'S SON AND HE DOESN'T KNOW IT! AND THEN HE'LL BETRAY THE PARTY AND THE FINAL BATTLE WILL BE HIM AND ALEX FUSED INTO A GIANT DRAGON OR SOMETHING!

Solar · **Reply #88 on:** October 02, 2010, 02:48:43 AM

Well, there does need to be a multiple-headed dragon endboss somehow.

Acid · **Reply #89 on:** October 02, 2010, 02:49:41 AM

A four headed dragon this time.

Mirby · **Reply #90 on:** October 02, 2010, 02:52:13 AM

Yes.

It'll be Isaac, Garet, Ivan, and Mia. and then when it dies, it'll take Felix, Jenna, Sheba, and Piers and reform. And when that dies, it'll take all of them and become a giant 9 headed dragon with Alex at the top.

Solar · **Reply #91 on:** October 02, 2010, 02:56:45 AM

That sounds like something that would send Doom Dragon and Dullahan running away to their mommies, and I HATED those two. May god have mercy on us and let the dragon have a reasonable number of heads >.>

Mirby · **Reply #92 on:** October 14, 2010, 07:36:14 PM

I don't know how Kraden is still alive, but...

From the Japanese site. Go there; lots of cool goodies.

Ephidiel · **Reply #93 on:** October 14, 2010, 07:40:23 PM

its Beardsaac
well Lemurian energy drink keeps kraden alive
now MiaxKraden = Rief it might be possible xD

also i like Stellas design
Werewolf Jupiter Fighter

the first of the 2 newly revealed sillouettes has to be Harmony (Water Adept)
then the last character is likely a Female Venus Mage

The Drunken Dishwasher · **Reply #94 on:** October 15, 2010, 10:56:12 AM

Am I the only one who thought GaretxMia? (considering how Mia acted w/ him at the end of Lost Age)

Anyways, Isaac looks awesome.

Acid · **Reply #95 on:** October 15, 2010, 11:01:56 AM

Beards give +50 Testosterone

He better be playable.

Solar · **Reply #96 on:** October 15, 2010, 02:35:50 PM

He is, the only question is whether it's just temporary or permanent after a point in the story.

STM · **Reply #97 on:** October 15, 2010, 06:36:47 PM

Quote from: Ephidiel on October 14, 2010, 07:40:23 PM

its Beardsaac
well Lemurian energy drink keeps kraden alive
now MiaxKraden = Rief it might be possible xD

also i like Stellas design
Werewolf Jupiter Fighter

the first of the 2 newly revealed sillouettes has to be Harmony (Water Adept)
then the last character is likely a Female Venus Mage

Watch it be the kid from Izumo that got name dropped in TLA.

I also love that Stella is a rep from the one werewolf town.

The Blind Archer · **Reply #98 on:** October 15, 2010, 10:47:46 PM

Isaac's not the only one to catch a case of the manlies.

Last time we saw this guy, he wasn't even able to talk and was lifting keys with his mind.

Acid · **Reply #99 on:** October 15, 2010, 10:56:37 PM

Now he lifts houses!

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