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What happened between Mega Man 10 and Mega Man X?
« on: March 03, 2013, 10:54:18 PM »
It's one of the great mysteries of Mega Man fans. Why is there no trace of Mega Man, Proto Man, Bass and the rest in the X universe?

All we really have to go on is this translation from the 'sort of canon(?)' story from the Mega Man Zero collection.

http://www.themmnetwork.com/2010/04/09/does-the-rockman-zero-collection-storyline-explain-everything/

"At least 200 years ago
The birth of X

When an incident occured where an unknown computer virus came from space and causes robots to become violent and riotous, Dr. Light completed the battle robot “X” worrying about the future of Earth. Hypothesizing X could battle robots infected by viruses, he gave X the perfect virus counter-measure. Meanwhile Dr. Light developed a great number of armors, but this presented the possibility of X becoming a threat to mankind. To confirm the safety of X’s cognition program, Dr. Light sealed away X in an analysis capsule.

1XX years ago
The birth of Zero

Zero was produced by Dr. Wily, who schemed at taking over the world. But he contained a flaw in his cognitive program that made him violent and unwilling to obey instructions, so Dr. Wily himself sealed Zero in a capsule.

1XX years ago
X is discovered

X is discovered by Dr. Cain, having been buried underground for 100 years."

So did all of the Mechanaloids get infected and kill each other, as well as try to slaughter the human race? Was Mega Man turned into a violent, crazy killing machine?

They -also-  talked, in the Art Books, about how it was Dr. Light's fault. He created X with a 'suffering circuit' that was reproduced incorrectly by Dr. Cain, which means that the Maverick Virus didn't exist before reploids.

So were there two totally different viruses? And what about the Zero virus where people say it was created by Dr. Wily?

Proto Man had a nuclear power cell, so unless he was fully repaired by Dr. Light or another scientist of equal or greater skill he'd have run out of power. Auto had a cameo appearance in X3 which only confuses me MORE.

It's now canon that Zero was never released by Wily before he died, so it's unlikely that Zero killed the main cast.

There was an end to the 'robot rebellions' at some point in 20XX, which I originally thought had related to the original Maverick Virus, but with the whole 'it came from outer space' thing, I can't be sure. All I know is Zero was created AFTER X, and AFTER the origin of the first Maverick-esque virus.

Does anyone have any other information to add? Or some clarifications and/or theories?

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Re: What happened between Mega Man 10 and Mega Man X?
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2013, 05:06:58 AM »
If I recall, the Suffering Circuit is the virus thing was from early concept phases of the Zero series. The space virus they mention is Roboenza. After the events of 10, when Light finally got around to making X, he figured similar viruses could possibly exist in the future, so he made sure X was protected.

The "Zero" Virus was what was in X5. the fusion of the Colony and Sigma Virus. it did not exist prior, and died after X5.

what people mean when they say Zero/Wily/Maverick Virus, is the virus that was leaking from Zero's capsule, which infected both him and Sigma, causing Zero's change to good and Sigma's change to bad, as well as driving local robots in the surrounding towns mad. It really has no real difference with the Sigma Virus, other than the fact that the Sigma Virus is merged with Sigma and has become him, letting him control it to his whims.

as to what happened, apparently Capcom DOES know what happened. They just prefer to let fans speculate though, so they don't talk about or reveal it.
...When Larry the reploid accountant goes maverick of his own accord, he's certainly formidable during tax season, but he isn't going to provide X the challenge needed to make him grow as a warrior and reach his potential.

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Re: What happened between Mega Man 10 and Mega Man X?
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2013, 05:46:26 AM »
So logically the original 'virus' from Zero's capsule could have been Roboenza, and the Mavericks that exist prior to the Roboenza outbreak when Zero was released were just from Cain's faulty chips.

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Re: What happened between Mega Man 10 and Mega Man X?
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2013, 08:24:25 AM »
The Sigma Virus, AKA the Virus Zero was sealed with, is a sub-species of Roboenza. In other words, it's origin lies in Roboenza. (similarly, the Nightmare is a subspecies of the Sigma Virus)

and sort of I suppose. From the start, since Cain was not able to fully understand ALL of X's design, he winged it a bit, so Reploids are not quite perfect, and malfunctions/short circuits happen here and there. Also, that tends to happen hen you start mass producing them.

Once the Virus started leaking though, it started causing cases of malfunctions and [parasitic bomb]. Then Once Sigma became evil and turned on Humanity, he used it to bend Reploids to his will.
...When Larry the reploid accountant goes maverick of his own accord, he's certainly formidable during tax season, but he isn't going to provide X the challenge needed to make him grow as a warrior and reach his potential.

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Re: What happened between Mega Man 10 and Mega Man X?
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2013, 01:14:10 PM »
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All we really have to go on is this translation from the 'sort of canon(?)' story from the Mega Man Zero collection.

The only thing bringing the validity of that text in question is how it vanished since the site revamp. Make no mistake, though. Many concepts first introduced in that timeline are still present on the current site (character profiles).

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Was Mega Man turned into a violent, crazy killing machine?

Rock nearly succumbed to the Roboenza. The cure came just in the nick of time.

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So did all of the Mechanaloids get infected and kill each other, as well as try to slaughter the human race?

Q02: Why aren’t the robots from the original Rockman time period still around in the Rockman X time period? Especially since there are some robots with only minor changes.

CAPCOM: When you consider that state of the art mobile phones become obsolete in less than a decade, you can imagine how after 100 years you wouldn't expect to see too many old models still remaining. There are indeed a few Metalls and Battons and such still around albeit with minor changes, so perhaps that’s because their designs are so enduring?


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They -also-  talked, in the Art Books, about how it was Dr. Light's fault. He created X with a 'suffering circuit' that was reproduced incorrectly by Dr. Cain, which means that the Maverick Virus didn't exist before reploids.

The statements made in the complete works (Three Keys: Sigma Virus) are often misconstrued. While the UDON translation says "originated" the original phrase Inti used was something vague like "true essence/form". In addition to that: Udon changed the suffering circuit (kunou kairo) description to pertain to X alone instead of all Reploids. The text describes the circuit's intended function were it functioning correctly: to make X/Reploids unbiased in affairs of humans and robots.

The main point made in text is that Zero (a Reploid) shares their mental prowess. However since he was made to be evil by Wily, the virus affects him uniquely from all others.

Aside from that, the EU Mega Man site at one point claimed Cain failed to give Reploid's a conscience. That's about all we have putting the blame on the good doctors; everything else emphasizes Wily's influence being the cause of the virus outbreak.

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Does anyone have any other information to add?

Q03: Has what happened in the interim between the Rockman series and the Rockman X series been decided? Or is there no canon version of what happened?

CAPCOM: Of course there is such an outline, but don’t expect an official announcement of it. Players have always enjoyed using their imaginations to come up with their own conclusions, and we wouldn’t want to take that away from them…


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Or some clarifications and/or theories?

The most important thing to consider is the political and societal landscape from 20XX to 21XX.

-X2's "Old Robot" profile makes clear wars were fought using invincible robots before the advent of Reploids.

-The 'warning' from X1's original manual / Compendium of RockmanX has Right citing Wily's robot rebellion as the cited biggest source of fear struck in the people's hearts. It also explains with greater detail how X's worrying functions, and which dangers are associated with it.

-Maverick Hunter X / Day of Sigma openly acknowledges a dire situation in which humanity has grown wary and fearful of continued advancements in humanizing robotics.