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Other Things => Gaming => Topic started by: Protoman Blues on April 27, 2016, 09:40:46 AM
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So there's a huge drop of Nintendo news coming out of their financial briefing today. Here's some of the info
-Nintendo NX will launch globally in March 2017
-No NX at E3. E3 will instead focus on Wii U Legend of Zelda
-Legend of Zelda will be coming out for both Wii U & NX in March 2017
-New smartphone apps for Fire Emblem & Animal Crossing series in the fall supposedly (oh good lord, do you not care about my phone battery life, Nintendo)
I'm sure there's more to come, but yeah. Who knows what the Wii U will have for this year, if anything. Zelda is officially a release title for the NX, which makes perfect sense. More apps since Miitomo is pretty popular.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChCD3IuWIAA9pjj.png)
Let's just stare at this awesome Zelda U/NX art for now.
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I'm very curious about that book! That looks like the Eye of Truth on it!
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As am I.
Also I made the image transparent.
(http://i.imgur.com/MWpbIft.png)
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Oh and Pokemon Sun/Moon is coming this holiday season, which makes sense!
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Apparently Zelda will be the only playable game Nintendo provides at E3, and their presentation will be all about Zelda. Which makes sense, it is the 30th Anniversary after all.
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Yeah, makes sense. They're pretty much getting further and further away from E3 as a whole. With the Nintendo Directs they put out whenever they damn well please, it makes sense. They might save the NX stuff for the Tokyo Game Show, or just put out info whenever they're ready too.
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about time we get some news anyway
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Dunno if I want to buy a new console anytime soon, so I'm glad at least they didn't push Zelda as an NX exclusive.
Finally some real news about this!
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Yeah, everyone's flipping out about Zelda being delayed, which Zelda games always are, and Nintendo not doing what everyone expected for E3, which they never do. -AC
Personally, I'd find it hilarious if the "later time" for NX was a Direct two days or so after E3, like that one year when everyone was ticked that their E3 presentation was essentially directed at their investors. I guess the big question is, do they actually not want to talk about NX that soon, or do they just want to reveal on their own terms so as not to be fighting for the spotlight?
I'm sure they've got 3DS news too, but you honestly have to wonder if the known Wii U games (Tokyo Mirage, Paper Mario, Zelda) are all it has left. Their console transitions tend to leave the last gen high and dry right away, after all. Something tells me that the Wii U is going to be riding on the eShop for a while.
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http://www.technobuffalo.com/2016/05/02/nintendo-nx-2017-release-lineup/ (http://www.technobuffalo.com/2016/05/02/nintendo-nx-2017-release-lineup/)
I'm really liking how they're approaching this.
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>not selling at a loss
>probably means weaker hardware
gg no re nintenderp
I really hope they're not doing what I think they're doing.
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The thing is the Wii U did the exact opposite and it still had weaker hardware regardless so whether they sold at a loss or not isn't going to make the Hardware better. Remember the thing can't even support the Unreal 4 Engine.
I think Nintendo is at least trying a smarter approach by not releasing the thing for a Holiday Rush and trying to concentrate on making a good launch library. We're definitely going to see the new Zelda game at last and I'm sure Pikmin 4 will be a launch title as well. While I do hope they don't skimp on the Hardware, and for the love of god please don't alienate the 3rd parties so much, I think this idea is at least on the right track in terms of a business plan. In the end it's not the fancy hardware that's going to be the end all be all, it's what they do with it and hopefully they make the most of whatever they have.
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If you want the biggest most expensive hardware, that's what PC gaming is for.
To be fair, Nintendo is damn good at optimizing hardware when they want to be; GCN sold for dirt cheap in the tail end of its life cycle. Wii U had a rather expensive hardware gimmick and we still don't really know what the NX is doing in that department. Also, the Wii U did not come under fire merely for raw power but also for its system architecture (PowerPC as opposed to x86).
I think the people hoping for a 4k NX are going to be very disappointed. I mean, Sony is JUST NOW getting to that, and they're the big multimedia giant. Nintendo is not going to out-Sony Sony.
I AM however cautiously optimistic that this may finally be the time that Nintendo learns their lesson with internal storage. My Nintendo is clearly built to push digital sales, SOMEBODY should have realized that they need to have a piece of hardware that "just works" out of the box for that, and doesn't leave people reluctant to shop due to lack of storage space.
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Seriously if 32 GBs isn't even enough for a Smart Phone for some people what makes game developers think that's acceptable for game storage? o-O
I mean granted the Wii U was at least compatible with Standard External Hard Drives, something the Vita should have taken note with *grumble grumble*, but seriously that was pathetic as hell even then.
But yeah I never expected a 4K NX, hell I still don't expect the thing to play DVDs. :P
I mean I'm not much of a specs whore so when I look at something that has specs as a main selling point I just smile and nod until they put up and shut up about what kind of software support they have. Software is the blood and life of anything, which unfortunately the Wii U also didn't have enough of even if what they had was good.
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You can build a PC that outperforms (see: crushes) the PS4 for about 50-100 dollars more than the price of the console. It's not a big equation. Nintendo should be fully capable of doing the same. Especially since AMD is releasing new hardware aimed at equal performance to a top-of-the-line nVidia card for half the price.
It's not hard to actually put working parts in a box. It doesn't cost that much either.
If Microsoft and Sony are selling at a loss and making up the difference with software, and succeeding, why is Nintendo so wary to do the same?
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Because if that was the last thing I tried and it didn't work then I wouldn't try it again anytime soon, ie the [tornado fang]ing Wii U. They sold it at a loss, and it back fired tremendously.
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Yes, but it was a combination of selling it at a loss AND stupid design decisions. AKA PowerPC, low-spec hardware bottleneck, and 32 goddamn GB of storage.
It didn't help that they spent the next few years releasing honestly mediocre titles in an attempt to bolster sales. I can't honestly say the Wii U has any real GEMS outside Bayonetta 2, Smash, and Mario Kart. Please enlighten me if it does, because the rest seem just like... Okay Nintendo games. Very cookie cutter.
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And again even with all that I still wouldn't do it in Nintendo's shoes, especially since unlike Sony or Microsoft they aren't multimedia power houses that sell TV's and Computers or any other devices and programs like Windows 10 or Sony Vegas. Sony and Microsoft's console divisions are merely different branches of 2 huge corporations which has much more resources than Nintendo can hope to have at this point.
Nintendo is strictly a game company, and they don't have much to fall back on unlike the other giants.
So no in Nintendo's case selling at a loss is a bad idea because it's that much more risky because they have much more to lose.
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This is like admitting there's no point in taking risks when you're a smaller company. They didn't take a risk with the Wii U and instead stuck to the same philosophy of "underpowered hardware + gimmick controller + good games = wii-tier success" and completely cocked it over because they thought that philosophy would carry them through this gen. If they keep playing this safe, then I guarantee you the NX will be another Wii U.
Hell, if the NX doesn't have a [tornado fang]ing gimmick controller and is just marketed as a Gamecube 2.0 then I guarantee you it will already see more success than the Wii. But if they keep to stupid design/marketing decisions, then they're going to flop.
I'm sorry if I don't have faith in Nintendo right now. I was let down by them this entire gen.
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Yes, but it was a combination of selling it at a loss AND stupid design decisions. AKA PowerPC, low-spec hardware bottleneck, and 32 goddamn GB of storage.
It didn't help that they spent the next few years releasing honestly mediocre titles in an attempt to bolster sales. I can't honestly say the Wii U has any real GEMS outside Bayonetta 2, Smash, and Mario Kart. Please enlighten me if it does, because the rest seem just like... Okay Nintendo games. Very cookie cutter.
Wonderful 101, Xenoblade Chronicles X, and Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE
I can now tolerate the latter, now that they realize having the Shin Megami name in the title is bullshit
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Pikmin 3 is also good if a very short game and I look forward to Pikmin 4 on the NX, and don't forget Bayonetta 2 as well.
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Ammy already mentioned Bayo 2.
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Yeah my bad, it got lost in all the techno specs argument that I still don't really agree with.
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Wonderful 101, Xenoblade Chronicles X, and Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE
Wonderful 101 is more of a cult thing.
I'll give you X.
Tokyo Mirage Sessions isn't even out, so that can't be argued for.
I didn't really see any buzz about Pikmin 3 either.
The problem with the Wii U's releases are that there are some GOOD games, but they don't generate enough buzz to carry the console. I was reluctant to mention Bayonetta 2 but I did on merit that it saved the franchise and Bayo being in Smash likely carried it further.
Hell, even Star Fox Zero is being made out to be another Metroid: Other M.
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Wonderful 101 is more of a cult thing.
I'll give you X.
Tokyo Mirage Sessions isn't even out, so that can't be argued for.
I didn't really see any buzz about Pikmin 3 either.
The problem with the Wii U's releases are that there are some GOOD games, but they don't generate enough buzz to carry the console. I was reluctant to mention Bayonetta 2 but I did on merit that it saved the franchise and Bayo being in Smash likely carried it further.
Hell, even Star Fox Zero is being made out to be another Metroid: Other M.
You said gems. That includes hidden gems.
And even then, Wonderful 101 actually had pretty good publicity before release, so not really hidden.
And Mirage Sessions came out in Japan a while ago. Many people enjoyed it.
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Don't forget Mario Kart 8, Splatoon and 3D World.
But we seriously need a new proper 3D Mario Platformer as fun as 3D World is.
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You said gems. That includes hidden gems.
And even then, Wonderful 101 actually had pretty good publicity before release, so not really hidden.
And Mirage Sessions came out in Japan a while ago. Many people enjoyed it.
Are you talking about SMT X Fire Emblem? AKA the original?
Don't forget Mario Kart 8, Splatoon and 3D World.
But we seriously need a new proper 3D Mario Platformer as fun as 3D World is.
I said Mario Kart already.
A lot of people seemed to lose interest in 3D World very quickly, so I don't count that either.
Splatoon's a good call though. Didn't expect that to take off like it did.
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Oops my bad again. '>.>
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Hyrule Warriors.
Even in regards to the "typical Nintendo games" there comes a point where I feel that people are just looking for any excuse to criticize and/or dismiss. Super Mario 3D World is severely underrated by people who claim it's not a "true" 3D Mario (read: they want Galaxy 3 and nothing else). Yoshi's Woolly World and New Super Mario Bros. U are also frequently overlooked because they had the grave misfortune of arriving too soon after far inferior 3DS entries in their respective series.
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Mario Maker, from what I've seen, is incredibly popular. Tropical Freeze was received well. Don't know about most people, but I enjoyed Hyrule Warriors a lot.
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What we really need is Galaxy 3.
3D World, while fun, felt way too same-y from any other Mario platformer.
Are you talking about SMT X Fire Emblem? AKA the original?
Yes, I called it Mirage Sessions because I prefer that name.
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Hyrule Warriors.
Even in regards to the "typical Nintendo games" there comes a point where I feel that people are just looking for any excuse to criticize and/or dismiss. Super Mario 3D World is severely underrated by people who claim it's not a "true" 3D Mario (read: they want Galaxy 3 and nothing else). Yoshi's Woolly World and New Super Mario Bros. U are also frequently overlooked because they had the grave misfortune of arriving too soon after far inferior 3DS entries in their respective series.
Yeah seriously....Yoshi's New Island's music would leave a sour tastes in anyone's mouth. X(
Although Kirby's Rainbow Curse is kind of disappointing, but I also didn't really like Canvas Curse in the first place so that's my bias.
What we really need is Galaxy 3.
3D World, while fun, felt way too same-y from any other Mario platformer.
Yes, I called it Mirage Sessions because I prefer that name.
I love having a playable Peach ala Mario 2 USA though. :3
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Hyrule Warriors.
Even in regards to the "typical Nintendo games" there comes a point where I feel that people are just looking for any excuse to criticize and/or dismiss. Super Mario 3D World is severely underrated by people who claim it's not a "true" 3D Mario (read: they want Galaxy 3 and nothing else). Yoshi's Woolly World and New Super Mario Bros. U are also frequently overlooked because they had the grave misfortune of arriving too soon after far inferior 3DS entries in their respective series.
who u kidding
we want sunshine 2, you scrublord
But yes, that's part of my argument. Some of these titles were straight-up 3DS rehashes and thus didn't sell well.
Mario Maker, from what I've seen, is incredibly popular. Tropical Freeze was received well. Don't know about most people, but I enjoyed Hyrule Warriors a lot.
Tropical Freeze was pretty good, I suppose? I somehow feel like the rebooted games didn't really last long in terms of popularity, like I stopped hearing about DKCR like a couple months after release and Tropical Freeze was barely acknowledged. Good games, but again, didn't sell well, I guess.
Hyrule Warriors also seemed to not have a lot of interest at first. I do concede that it's picking up steam with Legends around and all this DLC/buzz about Linkle.
What we really need is Galaxy 3.
3D World, while fun, felt way too same-y from any other Mario platformer.
Yes, I called it Mirage Sessions because I prefer that name.
Shut up.
We need Sunshine 2.
Get it right or I'm divorcing you.
Yeah, honestly the only time I acknowledged Mirage Sessions was for the [tornado fang]ing ridiculous FIIIYAAAAA EMBUREEEEEM song.
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3D World, while fun, felt way too same-y from any other Mario platformer.
The entire POINT of 3D World was that its formula is not typical of 3D Mario games, though. And I for one was very thankful for that, not only for GETTING TO CHOOSE MY GODDAMN PLAYER CHARACTER WHICH HAS NOT BEEN DONE IN SINGLE PLAYER SINCE 2/USA, but also for the fact that I despise the lack of permanent power-ups in the "typical" 3D Mario game.
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RE: The Wonderful 101, it also hasn't been forgotten. Not only were all the main characters included as trophies in Smash Wii U (and the final boss theme was one of the songs), but it's also prominently featured right now via a 30% off coupon on My Nintendo.
So yeah lol.
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Also unpopular opinion here but Animal Amiibo Festival looks kind of fun when you unlock more modes. I feel it's at least better than Happy Home Designer of the 2 spin offs. I do hope they continue making some Spin Offs of Animal Crossing along with the Mobile App they're making.
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So, just to be clear here, what exactly is your criteria?
It didn't help that they spent the next few years releasing honestly mediocre titles in an attempt to bolster sales. I can't honestly say the Wii U has any real GEMS outside Bayonetta 2, Smash, and Mario Kart. Please enlighten me if it does, because the rest seem just like... Okay Nintendo games. Very cookie cutter.
Cause judging by this and your responses to people's suggestions, I'm not quite sure what you're looking for here. The Wii U, while obviously not the perfect system, has had a lot of great, enjoyable games whether they've sold well or not.
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I'd want a new Galaxy for the amazing orchestrated music alone.
The entire POINT of 3D World was that its formula is not typical of 3D Mario games, though. And I for one was very thankful for that, not only for GETTING TO CHOOSE MY GODDAMN PLAYER CHARACTER WHICH HAS NOT BEEN DONE IN SINGLE PLAYER SINCE 2/USA, but also for the fact that I despise the lack of permanent power-ups in the "typical" 3D Mario game.
Nah, still felt typical.
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I agree with Hypershell here. 3D World was definitely not a typical 3D Mario game.
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If you're gauging the games solely by reception after the point of the console failing than it really is a moot point.
Up until Tropical Freeze almost every single noteworthy Wii U game was a platformer already (2D, 3D, first party, third party, regardless). I think that's why Tropical Freeze didn't get a huge reception, but it was solid.
Sunshine brought us the evaporate-on-contact-with-water-Yoshi, praise of it is therefore invalid.
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I agree with Hypershell here. 3D World was definitely not a typical 3D Mario game.
To each their own.
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Sunshine brought us the evaporate-on-contact-with-water-Yoshi, praise of it is therefore invalid.
Don't forget how irritating those Piantas are. Seriously most of them are jerks and idiots.
And don't get me started with the Chucksters! O:<
Seriously Thousand Year Door at least did Piantas right, but Sunshine's Piantas can just go screw themselves. Hoarding Shine Sprites when their Island depends on them for survival?! Come on!
But seriously Yoshi not being able to swim was bullshit, nor do I think them vomitting Juice was a good idea either.
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So, just to be clear here, what exactly is your criteria?
Cause judging by this and your responses to people's suggestions, I'm not quite sure what you're looking for here. The Wii U, while obviously not the perfect system, has had a lot of great, enjoyable games whether they've sold well or not.
Maybe I wasn't too clear, you're right.
In all actuality, I just want a Gamecube 2. No gimmicky control schemes, a few lastingly-popular games (look how popular GC-era games are compared to Wii-era games) instead of 3DS rehashes and yearly NEW SUPER MARIO BROS releases, good hardware that holds up to the competition (anyone remember how the Gamecube was more powerful than the PS2? Remember how multiplats like Sonic Heroes and Resident Evil 4 were more popular on that platform as a result? No?), and finally no alienation of third parties. GC did well because of great third-party support on top of great first-party support whereas the Wii/Wii U had mostly great first-party titles.
Like, just give us a Gamecube 2 and I guarantee it'll perform well. Apply the same philosophy to the NX as they did to the GC and it'll do well. Maybe cut out some of the GC's problems like the proprietary disc format and that'll be even better.
Oh, and when I say hardware that holds up to the competition, I mean the next gen proper. The fact that NX is releasing so soon before the competition is really worrying to me, because the PS5/Xbox Buzzword are undoubtedly going to leave it in the dust due to third-party preference.
If you're gauging the games solely by reception after the point of the console failing than it really is a moot point.
Up until Tropical Freeze almost every single noteworthy Wii U game was a platformer already (2D, 3D, first party, third party, regardless). I think that's why Tropical Freeze didn't get a huge reception, but it was solid.
That's again part of my gripes with the Wii U. A lot of releases were too samey.
praise of it is therefore invalid.
i will kill you
Don't forget how irritating those Piantas are. Seriously most of them are jerks and idiots.
And don't get me started with the Chucksters! O:<
Seriously Thousand Year Door at least did Piantas right, but Sunshine's Piantas can just go screw themselves. Hoarding Shine Sprites when their Island depends on them for survival?! Come on!
But seriously Yoshi not being able to swim was bullshit, nor do I think them vomitting Juice was a good idea either.
i am disowning the both of you
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I think a lot of the problem is that gamers are a pretty unpleaseable bunch and do not know what they want when it comes to Nintendo. You'll get the one crowd that want them to stay the course and just release continuations of things that work well. Mario, Zelda, Galaxy, F-Zero, Star Fox, Metroid Prime/Super Metroid, and so on. Then you've got the people that get tired of the same thing and accuse Nintendo of being stale and such. They want the best of both worlds and it's not easy to keep something going like that. Then you've got the ones that accuse them of being too "kiddy" and such. And so on and so forth.
I think the key thing they have to remember for the future is giving players options on how to play their games. Smash Bros. is the best example of this. They made sure that the Game Cube controller was still an option. Mario Kart 8 did this well too, whereas Star Fox Zero did not. Options are key. I mean, I loved the Wiimote & Nunchuks controls for certain games and I loved the Wii U's gamepad for playing Zelda. But that's me. A lot of gamers don't like things that are different. Of course, I'm not a game developer, so I have no idea how difficult it is to make multiple controller options.
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I just want them to stay fun, as long as they stay fun I will always support them in whatever way I can. That's all I want in my games, to have fun.
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That's a solid motion, yeah. I honestly wouldn't mind grandfathering in support for Wiimote/Gamepad into NX as long as the main method of control is a regular controller.
But really that first point is also why the GC succeeded so well. It had a solid JRPG lineup like the SNES did, solid 3D platformers like the N64 did, all while both doing new things and refining older things. (IE Wind Waker being a very different Zelda game while Twilight Princess was just Ocarina of Time again. MK Double Dash playing pretty different from 64 while Melee was a very refined Smash 64, etc.)
Different control options can't be that hard. Indie PC devs do it all the time.
I just want them to stay fun, as long as they stay fun I will always support them in whatever way I can. That's all I want in my games, to have fun.
That's kind of subjective though. Like, I have fun styling in Smash 4 on tournament-legal stages in 1v1s, while my nephew prefers chaotic 4-8p matches on random stages with items on.
I'm not sure where I'm going with that, honestly. I do have faith that the NX will at least have some decent games, even if I'm cynical about it's current state as a whole right now.
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Actually I thought the Gamecube was considered a failure......I mean it's my favorite Nintendo Console next to the SNES but it did not do very well.
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Actually I thought the Gamecube was considered a failure......I mean it's my favorite Nintendo Console next to the SNES but it did not do very well.
Did it not? Someone want to pull sales figures? I know the PS2 won that generation but I at least think it was more well-received than the Xbox.
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Also, if they are indeed holding back the NX until March 2017 because they want to have a strong launch lineup of games, that's absolutely the correct decision. They've already got a potential winner in The Legend of Zelda: The Plains of Enormousness. Rumor is that Wii U Smash is going to be an NX port, which is also smart. Lol, throw in some more DLC to that particular game (Shovel Knight & Shantae please) and you'll have people hook, line, and sinker.
And honestly, just give people what they want to start out. A new F-Zero, a new Metroid, a new ProtoMan game, a new Mario game, and boom. Instant sales. Make it where Sun & Moon connect to a new fully fledged Pokemon NX Coliseum and boom. Money. Hell, Capcom supposedly wants to make a Nintendo vs. Capcom fighting game. If Capcom wants to do that, there's absolutely NO reason why Nintendo should say no to that.
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Did it not? Someone want to pull sales figures? I know the PS2 won that generation but I at least think it was more well-received than the Xbox.
Console Units sold
PlayStation 2 155 million (as of March 31, 2012)[26][27]
Xbox 24 million (as of May 10, 2006)[8][9]
GameCube 22 million (as of September 30, 2010)[10]
Dreamcast 9.13 million (as of September 6, 2002)[11]
Barely lost to the Xbox.
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Yeah that is the only thing I feel a bit more confident in. Zelda U and Smash Complete are going to be system-sellers easily. If we get new F-Zero and new Metroid (although the latter I don't feel good about ;_;) then that'll seal the deal.
But I'm more concerned with the console lasting than it selling at launch.
Console Units sold
PlayStation 2 155 million (as of March 31, 2012)[26][27]
Xbox 24 million (as of May 10, 2006)[8][9]
GameCube 22 million (as of September 30, 2010)[10]
Dreamcast 9.13 million (as of September 6, 2002)[11]
Barely lost to the Xbox.
Hell. Guess I've been proven wrong about the GC's popularity.
I do still feel like NX would sell better taking some of it's design philosophies but damn. I really... Don't know how the Xbox outsold the GC. I guess Halo/Halo 2/Fable pushed units but I can't really think of anything else...?
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They did promise a new Console Metroid when Federation was announced so I'm thinking that's close to launch. I'm sure they learned from Other M and believe it or not Federation Force is actually pretty decent even if it has absolutely no hope of selling well. It controls like the Prime Games, and I don't mean Hunters.
And yeah Gamecube was very niche, and keep in mind the 360 launched in 2005 while the Wii launched in 2006. Even then the first Playstations still beat the Wii, and I'm sure the PS3 would have too if they didn't [tornado fang] up the launch so bad.
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Hunters was good though. :(
Wii was technically 2006. :^)
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Yeah I type faster than I think. -u-'
But yeah Federation Force does control like Prime according to somecallmejohnny, a Metroid nerd who tried it out at PAX Prime.
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Yeah Federation Force seems like the thing people hate on principle.
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To be fair if they had the Console Metroid Game they are making released first and Other M didn't do so many things wrong it probably just would have been whatever and maybe even a hidden gem depending on how good it is for the Single player campaign, PAX only had a demo of Multiplayer like how Tri Force Heroes was handled but you know at PAX. I mean would think a game that expanded on the Galactic Federation would have been very interesting, even though Federation Force is certainly not the best way to go about that.
And honestly I don't think the plot of Other M on paper was that bad, on paper mind you, it's just the writing and execution really made it really terrible.
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Yeah, that could definitely have just been leftover hurt from Other M. It seems like an interesting game on paper but they just... Did so much wrong with it.
I definitely want Metroid to become Nintendo's Halo. Vast universe with lots of interesting lore and a more mature theme.
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Yeah probably the one thing that makes me not really interested in Metroid is the lack of plot besides Fusion, and by that I mean the non Prime Games. Seriously we need a continuation of Fusion, and Mind Uploaded Adam being more awesome than he was alive. 8D
I will still try Super Metroid one day since that is just a good game period.
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You're right about the Gamecube's popularity, but unfortunately popularity =/= sales. It didn't sell well, but it is very well-loved.
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PS2 best <3
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And the Gamecube was technically more powerful than the PS2, mini disks aside. So yeah PS2 did not need high end specs to absolutely demolish everything, long run time or no.
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Yeah, specs-wise
Xbox > GCN > PS2
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GCN version of Command Mission runs better than the PS2 version actually lol.
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As did Sonic Heroes on the GCN compared the PS2 version, thanks to whatever made the Gamecube more powerful.
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Yeah Federation Force seems like the thing people hate on principle.
It is. Metroid game without Samus, not everyone can get over that.
Other M deserves far more credit than it gets, most people only hate it because it destroyed the player-projected images of Samus ranging from female Batman to bloodlusty psychopath who just happened to fall on the Pirates' bad side. My only gripe with the story is that its pacing does not match the gameplay pacing. That and the Ridley battle really should have called for a full-on flashback, more like the game's commercial.
Say what you want about story-based upgrade activation, the scene for the Gravity Suit was pure awesome.
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Like I said I don't think the plot and certain plot elements were bad on their own and having Samus suffer from PTSD makes a lot of sense to me, but I can't deny that the execution and especially the writing was really bad.
I mean I don't really get why a certain loud portion of the Metroid fanbase are so obsessed with Samus being a badass stoic waifu all the time 24/7 365 days a year. I don't think showing no vulnerability ever makes someone strong and in fact that kind of trivializes what strength actually is. It isn't about winning all the significant battles or being the best thing since sliced bread, that's insanely boring and honestly makes me laugh at how stupid that sounds.
What makes someone strong is admitting they are scared and vulnerable at times, showing that they are not infallible and invincible, showing that they are human not some wish fufilling fantasy of invincibleness and awesome. What makes someone strong is having so much stacked against you and finding a way to overcome them, maybe not magically get over it but at least getting the Job done. That's why I can appreciate someone like Cloud in Final Fantasy 7 before Advent Children [tornado fang]'d everything up because Sephiroth Villan Sueness just won't die.
Other M tried to do that and on an objective level it could have worked and on some levels it did, but the result was just not very entertaining and not even in a so bad it's hilarious way. It was just bad, dull, and frankly very uninteresting.
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Personally I like the idea of Federation Force because we've known about the Federation for several games now, and it makes sense that they'd, you know, not rely on Samus for literally everything? Plus she appears in the game, it's not like she's completely absent. You just don't play as her.
I do find it funny though that people are hating on Kensuke Tanabe for coming up with this idea despite the fact that he's produced all previous Metroid Prime games which people love.
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Other M deserves far more credit than it gets, most people only hate it because it destroyed the player-projected images of Samus ranging from female Batman to bloodlusty psychopath who just happened to fall on the Pirates' bad side.
I thought one of the main problems is that there are few/no charitable interpretations of most of Adam's actions towards Samus. Like, does the game even try to explain why he waited until Samus was on the verge of death-by-heatstroke to authorize use of her Varia suit? It makes him come across as callous, or that he foolishly overestimated Samus's endurance, at best.
That, and from what I understand, the presentation of Samus's vulnerable side didn't feel natural/wasn't handled well, what have you. I would have at least made it a bit more subtle.
As for Federation Force--I'm fine with it; looks like it could be a decent diversion.
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My beef with Other M was the "authorisation" thing as a whole.
Samus, the independant bounty hunter, refuses to activate features that would help her in her mission until she gets the say-so from a man who has no direct authority over her? I get the whole "issues" thing, but really?
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Actually believe it or not the Authorization is the thing that makes the most sense. Samus is essentially a walking WMD and has to work with a team, so she has to make sure they don't get blown up by her. Not to mention while she is an 'Independent Bounty Hunter' most of her jobs are taken from the Federation anyway. So when Adam sees her there and asks for her help he essentially hired her on the spot, becoming her temporary employer at the moment, so she has to play by his rules to make sure the mission is done and the team is safe. Plus if I remember correctly the game mission started out as an investigation, so heavy weaponry would be a detriment to investigating things.
Now not activating the Varia suit in the Lava Zone was just all around stupid, I mean it's like Adam went to the bathroom and Samus not having the authorization just decided to bake until he came back, went holy [parasitic bomb], and told her to activate the Varia suit immediately. I mean please don't tell me that he was talking to her in the Lava Zone before he authorized the Vaira suit because that head canon is the only way that situation would make any remote sense. But seriously I really didn't understand why Samus didn't use common sense in that particular incident, it makes her look like a woman who can't think. I mean this is really the only thing that makes the authorization not make sense.
But in the end the authorization is just the gameplay excuse for why Samus can't use all her weapons at once starting out. Now whether this is better than having her suit glicth out due to being thrown at a wall is another story......
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I've no desire to hijack this thread with a debate, but Samus shouldn't need anyone's say-so in order to do stuff. Why she didn't activate the Varia Suit herself is a question that continues to bug me, and the weapons? Why should Adam get to dictate what she can and can't use in a given situation. Is she incapable of judging for herself?
Anyway, rant over, let's get back on topic and I'm shutting up for good now.
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She decides to follow Adam's orders because when she was younger she was a disrespectful brat, and she wants to make amends. Also what Sakura said sums it up very nicely.
As for the Varia Suit, the rising lava forced her into a dead end. There was no option of escape then. Prior to that she could just backtrack to a not ultraheated room. Also, the heat damage was nothing compared to previous games. Combine that with Concentration, Samus was not in that dire of straights.
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Okay so even that made sense even if it was poorly executed like pretty everything in Other M in terms of the narrative. Like I said I think what makes Other M suffer as a narrative is that things do make sense and it could be a good story but the writting and execution just drags it into the ground to the point that the end result is something that's completely trash.
Also to bring another point into this is that Bounty Hunters in most media are represented in very unealistic way to the point that what we think of Bounty Hunters is completely and utterly distorted. Realistically if a Bounty Hunter doesn't follow orders to the letter at best they don't get paid or get reduced pay and at worst they would probably be put in jail. A Bounty Hunter that is a loose cannon is not the norm and should not be the norm, the reason they are normally portrayed this way is because it's very entertaining for many reasons.
The best example of a somewhat accurate portrayal of Bounty Hunters is Cowboy Bebop. The Bebop crew is normally so low on money and barely has enough to eat or keep up the maintenance of not only the Bebop but the other ships they have because they either [tornado fang] up their missions or Spike and Faye causes so much collateral damage that the cost of repairs has to come from their paychecks and since people normally live from paycheck to paycheck they almost never have spare money except for a few occasions. Add to that Faye still has a debt to pay thanks to being screwed over by some con men, which also explains her major trust issues, and in order to get it paid faster she tries to Gamble, but her luck is so bad she always loses it.
Another thing about Bounty Hunters is that they are hired because of their reputation. If a Bounty Hunter is known for doing things right then it makes people not want to hire them even if they are skilled. This is also major part of why the views on Bounty Hunters is so distorted, loose cannons are inherently idealized when in reality they really shouldn't. Bounty Hunters are like hired Contractors, if they don't do the job to the letter and do whatever the [tornado fang] they want they don't get paid by the person that hires them.
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Samus's status as a bounty hunter is only relevant in Other M insofar as she uses it to comfort people who are scared of the Galactic Federation. She was not hired to investigate the Bottle Ship, she stumbled upon a GF operation and invited herself into it, because her gut told her that they were about to get in over their heads.
I think it's funny that everyone complains about Samus allegedly having no will of her own when working under Adam, when in fact Adam did not want her in the operation in the first place. There is a lot of selective reasoning going on in Other M's criticisms.
My beef with Other M was the "authorisation" thing as a whole.
Samus, the independant bounty hunter, refuses to activate features that would help her in her mission until she gets the say-so from a man who has no direct authority over her? I get the whole "issues" thing, but really?
What Fusion told us: Samus took orders from Adam and trusts him, but dislikes taking orders in general.
Your complaint is a common one, but it's also ignorant of the game's presentation. Do you know how many upgrades Samus de-activated when she decided to work for Adam? Two: Bombs and Missiles. She, of her own accord, turned everything else off before she knew Adam was anywhere near the Bottle Ship. She also activates her gear at her own discretion (being rather snarky about it, I might add) when communication is cut off, AND she activates any new gear that she finds (Diffusion Beam and Seeker Missiles) immediately regardless of her communication status.
I see this as an X5 "don't get lazy and depend on the power of the armor" situation. Same reason the escape sequence is played in the Zero Suit. Samus is not just her suit, she is a Chozo-trained super-athlete who continuously keeps herself on her toes. And with how often her gear gets stolen, disabled, or damaged, it's not as if she doesn't have good reason to.
I thought one of the main problems is that there are few/no charitable interpretations of most of Adam's actions towards Samus. Like, does the game even try to explain why he waited until Samus was on the verge of death-by-heatstroke to authorize use of her Varia suit? It makes him come across as callous, or that he foolishly overestimated Samus's endurance, at best.
The charitable interpretation is that Samus was pushing her luck; Adam did not direct her to that battle. A big part of Other M's premise that everyone overlooks is that your primary mission is not to kill things, but to search for survivors, so the less hospitable an area is the less reason Samus should be there to begin with. If you wanted to stretch it you could also say that there is strategic value to holding off on the Varia's activation since it comes with a full health restore.
I will admit that needing authorization for a purely defensive function is silly, as is splitting hairs between the GF Trooper's freeze guns and Samus's Ice Beam, but I see that as Adam running a tight ship, not an issue between Adam and Samus specifically. Adam does care for Samus but he is an overall cold/ruthless character. Again, well in line with what Fusion told us.
That, and from what I understand, the presentation of Samus's vulnerable side didn't feel natural/wasn't handled well, what have you. I would have at least made it a bit more subtle.
Most of the people who make that criticism don't want her to have a vulnerable side to begin with. The dialogue is a little heavy, but it works a hell of a lot better than anything concerning Melissa.
You know what I liked? The flashbacks about Adam's brother, when Samus was talking with Anthony. Nobody really talks about that, but to me it was the best illustration of how Samus "grew up" after leaving the Galactic Federation. She stuck to her ideals where others would have become more jaded with age, but she also learned to respect people who don't agree with her.
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Anthony Higgs is the best thing about Other M, hands down. I want a Metroid game where you play as him.
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I second that notion, he should have been in Federation Force as a playable character. XD
But yeah more Anthony in future Metroid games would be nice.
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Seriously, if you wanted to make a game about the Galactic Federation, why would you NOT use Anthony?
So the usual "we ain't found sh*#!" disclaimer applies, but the latest out of the NX rumor mill is that it will be cartridge-based. Nintendo's ROM supplier has been giving them strong nods in their financial reports despite gearing up for products that are clearly not 3DS carts, and they reportedly have a 32GB capacity.
A while back there was a patent uncovered from Nintendo about a console with no optical drive. Considering the way solid state memory has been getting cheaper and cheaper, I could easily believe this one.
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Not to mention it would make sense if it is indeed some hybrid console. I'm almost starting to believe they really did cameo it in the Star Fox anime as crazy as it sounds. XD
But yeah I'm just going to take it with a grain of salt until we get some confirmation from Nintendo, which probably won't happen until they decide to reveal it.
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Unsure if this has been posted, but what the [tornado fang].
http://www.geek.com/games/nintendos-next-gaming-handheld-is-codenamed-mh-1656148/ (http://www.geek.com/games/nintendos-next-gaming-handheld-is-codenamed-mh-1656148/)
I really hope the controller theory is all it is. Or that it's a hoax/rumor.
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"MH" sounds boring honestly
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Well clearly its to signify how its a Monster Hunter machine. 8D
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I'm honestly thinking this one is a rumor born from a misunderstanding.
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This one is false. It's just a hypothetical scenario they were picturing. Just read down on Dr. Serkan Toto's Twitter feed (https://twitter.com/serkantoto) (he runs a Tokyo-based game consultancy firm and tends to report on the Nintendo investor's meetings whenever they happen) a short bit and he explains how it's totally not a real thing.
He also posted a comment that was mentioned here (http://gonintendo.com/stories/258147-rumor-nintendo-s-next-handheld-is-codenamed-mh-update-false) if you don't feel like reading his feed for just a short while.
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Okay, I'm relieved. I would've flipped my [parasitic bomb] honestly.
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I'm sure the new hand held won't be a thing until 2018 at the earliest, provided the NX isn't a hybrid console.
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http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/06/nintendo_outlines_key_goals_to_ensure_nx_success (http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/06/nintendo_outlines_key_goals_to_ensure_nx_success)
It also says grab a Wii U while you can.....
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I'm definately gonna wait a year or two and see what NX is all about after launch-I to this day regret my purchase of the Wii-U, not because of the system it's self; but rather for it's complete lack of software-Yeah Smash, and Mario Kart are ALOT of fun, but Hyrule Warriors, and mario Party? Well Warrior games only keep me interested for so long and Mario Party I think my friends and I played once before we realized it was kinda crap--so yay?
That just leaves the Zelda-so that'll be what? Four games and only three were good? O^O
Point is I can't really trust Nintendo is going to deliver on third party games right now so I'll be waiting to see how the NX plays out. Money is to tight now to waste on systems that might not even work out.
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Yeah I can understand that, while they said they want to have a good solid launch lineup we need to wait to see how good said launch line up is. Miyamoto said they're already working on and reinventing a New Mario Game for NX but I don't think it will be for launch.
Other than Zelda I'm positive Pikmin 4 will be a launch title since that's nearly done and hopefully that promised Console Metroid too. Hopefully we get good Console RPGs and Indie titles too.
Also I recommend Pikmin 3, Wonderful 101, Yoshi's Wooly World and Bayonetta 1 and 2, Xenoblade Cronicles X (plus the original Xenoblade if it's still $20 on the eShop) if you didn't get those already. Try to see if you can find discounts. I think Tropical Freeze is also something to get but I haven't seen much of it. Oh and definitely get 3D world, it's no Galaxy but it's the best multiplayer Mario you will ever play.
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Yeah I can understand that, while they said they want to have a good solid launch lineup we need to wait to see how good said launch line up is. Miyamoto said they're already working on and reinventing a New Mario Game for NX but I don't think it will be for launch.
Other than Zelda I'm positive Pikmin 4 will be a launch title since that's nearly done and hopefully that promised Console Metroid too. Hopefully we get good Console RPGs and Indie titles too.
Also I recommend Pikmin 3, Wonderful 101, Yoshi's Wooly World and Bayonetta 1 and 2, Xenoblade Cronicles X (plus the original Xenoblade if it's still $20 on the eShop) if you didn't get those already. Try to see if you can find discounts. I think Tropical Freeze is also something to get but I haven't seen much of it. Oh and definitely get 3D world, it's no Galaxy but it's the best multiplayer Mario you will ever play.
I'll definitely see if I can find any decent prices on those games, money being kinda iffy thought not sure when I'll be able to. Wonderful 101 I hear is a lot of fun.
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Oh we're in luck too, 3D World, Pikmin 3 and Tropical Freeze are Nintendo Selects, so they'll always be discounted and you can get them at your leisure. Should be about $20 each.
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Digital download I assume?
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You can get them digital, but let me see if physical versions exist too like the Wii counterparts.
EDIT: Yeah physical versions exist.
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Ah cool, I'll keep an eye out when funds become a thing. Thanks!
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Also if you happen to be lucky enough to find a used Bayonetta 2 with Bayonetta 1 make sure you snag it since those are pretty much out of print. Otherwise Bayonetta 1 will be digital only and Bayonetta 2 can still be bought physically by itself.
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Will do, Beyonetta is on my list of wanted games.
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I second your Super Mario 3D World recommendation, Sakura. There's also physical versions of Shovel Knight and DuckTales Remastered, too.
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Seriously EVERY Wii U owner should have Super Mario 3D World. And if you still like 2D Mario, New Super Mario Bros. U is severely underrated. It kicks the ever loving crap out of NSMB2; quite a curse that they came out in the same year.
I also stand by Woolly World, best Yoshi game since the original. And I still gotta get Xenoblade X sometime, it looks awesome but I never got the chance to try it.
Also, my favorite digital-only titles:
The Cave, Shantae and the Pirate's Curse, Nano Assault Neo, and Fast Racing Neo.
I'll definitely see if I can find any decent prices on those games, money being kinda iffy thought not sure when I'll be able to. Wonderful 101 I hear is a lot of fun.
Wonderful 101 is a great game but what bugs me about it is that they left menu keys on the Gamepad active while you're expected to be drawing on the thing. Somebody didn't think that one through and it leaves me using the right analogue stick more than my stylus, which is sad given that the Wii U was expressly built to encourage the opposite.
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Also I forgot Splatoon, Splatoon is a must as is Mario Kart 8 if you don't have that.
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I also stand by Woolly World, best Yoshi game since the original.
I think it helps that one of the control schemes is literally just the Yoshi's Island control scheme lol
Also that instead of trying to make another Yoshi's Island and copying that they tried to make a whole new Yoshi game of its own.
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New rumors which may be nothing. Yay?
Eurogamer has put up a pair (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-07-26-nx-is-a-portable-console-with-detachable-controllers) of articles (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-nintendo-nx-mobile-games-machine-powered-by-nvidia-tegra) going back to the "hybrid device" mentality. They are claiming that the NX is a handheld with a dock that connects to a TV, the sides of the handheld being detachable controllers, and that it'll be running off of a Tegra chip (claims that the devkits using a fan-cooled Tegra X1). They are, naturally, sticking to the previous cartridge rumors.
I'm not sure how seriously to take these guys since they admit within one of the articles that prior to these reports they were banking on the "AMD/x86 system that will blow PS4 out of the water" theory. I think that entire mentality was one giant overreaction to the "industry leading chips" comment that in no way whatsoever specified graphics. Also, I distinctly recall that Tegra was rumored for the 3DS, which turned out to be false.
If this does turn out to be true, I'd be curious to know if that whole "supplemental computing" patent from a while back may refer to the system dock, to bump up the screen resolution at home (I can't imagine any way in hell Nintendo would put an HD screen on a handheld). I'd also wonder if the dock can stream from the handheld if the full unit is needed for a particular game (assuming the unit has a touch screen).
I will say this: If it is true, and Zelda Breath of the Wild is playable on the go, that would be pretty mind-blowing.
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http://wiiudaily.com/2016/07/nintendo-of-america-president-says-they-failed-to-market-the-wii-u-properly/ (http://wiiudaily.com/2016/07/nintendo-of-america-president-says-they-failed-to-market-the-wii-u-properly/)
"Whatever the NX ends up being called, you can bet that it won’t have “Wii” in its name."
Halelujah!
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I believe that remark was the author's and not Reggie's. That said, I wholeheartedly agree. "Wii" as a brand severely weakened right before Wii U launched, it was bad foresight and while I wouldn't put too much weight on a name alone (that kind of confusion is a symptom of disinterest), it certainly did more harm than good. Doubly so in the long run, since it seems like ever since late 2015 Nintendo has been abandoning the Wii remote.
The Wii U was basically Nintendo's Playstation 3 in terms of how it was presented. They came in with sheer arrogance because they assumed last gen's success would carry over, and it bit them square in the ass. The 8GB SKU was pathetic, and it took them entirely too long to realize that Nintendo Land could never be Wii Sports. Miyamoto in particular seems to not understand to this day that Wii's success was not based on originality for originality's sake, it was based on intuitiveness. That's why off-TV play justifies the Gamepad more than Star Fox ever could.
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Yeah I know, but I'm just happy that Reggie acknowledged that the marketing for the Wii U sucked. I mean it definitely wasn't the only thing, and definitely not the biggest either, but the marketing was just horrible. I mean it's probably in the Top 5 biggest counsole marketing mistakes along with the aforementioned PS3 launch, the Xbone announcement, and the "brilliant" Sega Saturn launch.
I'm not sure if I should count the Video Game Crash of '83 caused by Atari though, I mean since that was more about really crappy games oversaturating the market than the console lauch/marketing itself right? :\
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http://www.gamespot.com/articles/dragon-quest-10-headed-to-nintendos-nx/1100-6442433/ (http://www.gamespot.com/articles/dragon-quest-10-headed-to-nintendos-nx/1100-6442433/)
Seems Square has officially confirmed that the 4th version of the MMO Dragon Quest X is heading for NX as well, along with the PS4 version. Whether this comes out in the West is the real question however but I'm leaning on it's staying in Japan.
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http://gematsu.com/2016/08/dragon-quest-xi-confirmed-nx-simultaneous-launch-ps4-3ds-versions-suggested (http://gematsu.com/2016/08/dragon-quest-xi-confirmed-nx-simultaneous-launch-ps4-3ds-versions-suggested)
Yuji Horii officially confirmed that Dragon Quest XI will have an NX version along with the PS4 and 3DS versions in a discussion with Masahiro Sakurai and Junichi Masuda. He also says they want to launch all versions simultaneously to avoid Spoilers for the game.
Meanwhile I'm wondering how often Horii, Sakurai, and Masuda get together to talk about things with each other because this honestly shocked me.
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I wonder if DQXI will make it out of Japan...
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I'm pretty sure it will, but it'll probably still take a lot longer than it has to to come here. That's also not factoring whether your party members are generics like 3 and 9 or actual characters and having Party Talk Dialog.
But having it on 3 consoles instead of 1 does increase those odds compared to a single handheld or Console and a MMO RPG that came out before FF14 and before FF14 became good.
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http://www.polygon.com/2016/9/20/12986612/pokemon-nintendo-nx (http://www.polygon.com/2016/9/20/12986612/pokemon-nintendo-nx)
Pokemon game(s) confirmed to be made for NX straight from Ishihara's mouth.
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I approve of any method of seeing Dragonite on my NX. That said, I'm surprised to hear Pokemon Co. jumping onto new hardware already, normally they take their sweet time with that stuff.
Having fun sifting through the rumors. The last Foxconn rumor I assume to be 80-90% BS, as the translator himself seems unsure of just how many parts the system is composed of, and it claims the chipset is still up in the air, meaning that even if it's legitimate it is outdated (I'm no electronics manufacturing wiz but I cannot imagine any way in hell they could be planning a March release without yet knowing what it is they're manufacturing).
One of the interesting conflicts I've heard regards the whole "detachable controllers" shpiel. Numerous rumors including Emily Rogers report under the assumption that the point of the detachable controllers is to use them at home while the system is docked, but Peer over at IGN suggested that they're cheapy "travel controllers" not meant to be your main controllers for use at home. Makes me wonder if it ties into the whole "infrared clip-on controller" patent that was unearthed, and if so that would go a ways to explaining the reports of a split D-Pad.
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I do kind of wish we could get another Pokemon Stadium/Battle Revolution but if the NX is a hybrid, which Ishihara may actually be hinting at, then that might as well be redundant. But yeah usually Pokemon does wait a couple of years before making a game.
But yeah those rumor hunters sure come up with crazy stuff, I'm not really paying too much mind to them though and only really focus on the official confirmed stuff, in terms of this thread anyway. Otherwise this thread would be 20 pages long by now.
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On that note...
Nintendo of Canada does not want to discuss the fact that they don't want to discuss the NX. (https://mynintendonews.com/2016/09/26/nintendo-rep-advises-nintendo-is-not-ready-to-discuss-the-nx-in-recent-interview/)
I'm gonna guess that has something with the fact that Nintendo of Canada themselves let a bit of speculation slip out, that being that they're expecting a Direct (although, honestly, that's not much of a stretch at this point).
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Honestly I was expecting them to go the Nintendo Direct route anyway, this way they can show what they want to show and how they want to show it rather than having to be rushed at some segment in a huge convention.
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it's probably gonna be a gimmicky disappointment like the Wii-U was, isn't it...
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........Can we just wait until the thing is announced before passing judgement?
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it's probably gonna be a gimmicky disappointment like the Wii-U was, isn't it...
Do me a huge favor and leave RPM.
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it's probably gonna be a gimmicky disappointment like the Wii-U was, isn't it...
You're basing your expectations off of as much info as Jack Thompson did for his vitriol back when Rockstar announced Bully (and just the name at that, nothing else about it).
Not only that, but the Wii U (yeah, no hyphen btw) is anything but a gimmicky disappointment.
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NX to be revealed tomorrow! (http://www.polygon.com/2016/10/19/13341216/nintendo-nx-reveal-date?utm_campaign=polygon&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter)
OH! WELL OKAY THEN! LOL
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Lol you sniped me. XD
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Still got it, young one! 8B
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Either way, I'm glad they're finally doing it, I was really getting tired of seeing people beg for the NX reveal on anything Nintendo related.....ugh......
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(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w46/Hypershell/UltraNX_zpscp5rjbqn.jpg~original)
...this is what I do when I stay up late to watch computer scans.
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http://youtu.be/f5uik5fgIaI (http://youtu.be/f5uik5fgIaI)
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvN5J7EUMAA9K0q.jpg)
VIDEOGAMES
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IT USES GTX 10XX ARCHITECTURE
TOP OF THE [tornado fang]ing LINE GPU ARCHITECTURE
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Nintendo Hand Cramps
This looks really cool though, interesting concept. One of my main concerns would be how powerful it is.
And a nitpick would be the traditional controller, which certainly doesn't seem ergonomically satisfying like the Xbone controller or the DS4. Even the Wii U Pro controller wasn't.
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PHI
I JUST SAID
IT'S STUPID POWERFUL
LIKE
>200% BETTER THAN MY BROTHER'S GAMING PC
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If it really is extremely powerful, that begs the question why they stated "it won't replace the Wii U or 3DS".
Also, I'm currently trying to wrap my head around Nintendo finally developing something that isn't severely underpowered.
Edit:
>Switch is revealed
>2 people on RPM
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If it really is extremely powerful, that begs the question why they stated "it won't replace the Wii U or 3DS".
The same reason they stated the DS wouldn't replace the GBA, which it did. Nintendo likes to leave themselves a back door PR-wise when they do something batshit crazy.
Also they want their new system to be seen outside the expectations of the old ones. They don't want the Wii U's stigma to hurt the Switch, and they don't want the Switch to prematurely pour cold water on the 3DS (which is why even though it IS the hybrid it was rumored to be, it was announced as their next "home system").
So, GET HYPED! We saw Zelda, Super Mario, Mario Kart, Splatoon, and Skyrim. Skyrim on a Nintendo hardware announcement trailer, didn't see that one coming.
Mario Kart will be bringing back double items and King Boo, hooray!
Ergonomics are questionable, I admit, but the Gamepad was a lot more comfortable than it looked, so we'll see.
IT USES GTX 10XX ARCHITECTURE
TOP OF THE [tornado fang]ing LINE GPU ARCHITECTURE
Source? Cuz we all know Nintendo doesn't talk specs with the public.
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[tornado fang] skyrim.
Nothing says 'needs to be on nintendo console' like a remaster of a soon to be 6 year old game that's already gonna be out on everything else. It'll be the Mass Effect 3 on Wii U all over again.
Guarantee that third-party line up will start dropping off very quickly. Expecting EA to bail after a single madden.
As for everything else? Battery's probably gonna be a [sonic slicer], i've never been a fan of the concept of a hybrid and am skeptical now that's been confirmed, and the name... Well its not WiiZ or something I guess.
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[tornado fang] skyrim.
Handheld Skyrim, mind you.
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The same reason they stated the DS wouldn't replace the GBA, which it did. Nintendo likes to leave themselves a back door PR-wise when they do something batshit crazy.
Also they want their new system to be seen outside the expectations of the old ones. They don't want the Wii U's stigma to hurt the Switch, and they don't want the Switch to prematurely pour cold water on the 3DS (which is why even though it IS the hybrid it was rumored to be, it was announced as their next "home system").
So, GET HYPED! We saw Zelda, Super Mario, Mario Kart, Splatoon, and Skyrim. Skyrim on a Nintendo hardware announcement trailer, didn't see that one coming.
Mario Kart will be bringing back double items and King Boo, hooray!
Ergonomics are questionable, I admit, but the Gamepad was a lot more comfortable than it looked, so we'll see.
Source? Cuz we all know Nintendo doesn't talk specs with the public.
I can't stand the gamepad, honestly. It's too wide for me.
And Nintendo actually released the specs for the 3DS soon after the reveal.
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Oh thank god we have multiple controler options, and it has a stand. However this thing really needs a flip case or some sort of flap like a Tablet in my honest opinion, I'm worried about scratching the screen.
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IF IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH MY (pathetically small) COLLECTION OF WII U GAMES, I WILL BUY A NINTENDO SWITCH!
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So this thing is rad as all hell, but the most important thing by far is.
Squids.
2.
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Okay, we have the Brand and a Model but not the specific chip it's using.
https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2016/10/20/nintendo-switch/
Ultra PC Savvy people please translate this for me.
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Okay, we have the Brand and a Model but not the specific chip it's using.
https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2016/10/20/nintendo-switch/
Ultra PC Savvy people please translate this for me.
It's a fluff piece to suggest that nVidia and Tegra are happening. Behind the scenes, it's all but confirmed that the part (heavily rumored to be the Tegra X2) will have bits inspired by the latest generation of GeForce cards (the "Pascal" line) and a solid ARM based CPU. Numbers are all in the air though.
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Yeah I knew it was pretty much a fluff piece obviously but I wanted a general ballpark because the Chip Processor Power stuff always flies over my head in general since I usually don't give that much of a [parasitic bomb] about it.
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Hmm... Battery life will be a concern.
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Yeah we'll probably need an external battery since this thing has a fan built in.
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Well I'm [tornado fang]ing hyped! 8D
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Someone made a mock up of the Switch in different colors, while I doubt Nintendo would really do something like this, or at least not as many colors and certainly some colors would be completely "impossible", it would be nice to see. It'd remind me of the N64 and Gamecube days, good times.
http://imgur.com/a/FSHaK (http://imgur.com/a/FSHaK)
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Those look pretty awesome!
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And with that it seems Nintendo won't provide anymore info about the Switch until 2017, however that doesn't mean we won't get more from 3rd Parties.
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Yeah, I'm hoping to see some third party announcements as well. Let's just hope that the ports are CURRENT this time, DQ11 and Sonic are hopefully good signs.
They confirmed Amiibo (no surprise), but they're not talking yet about touch control or region lock. Pretty easy to guess, but I suppose 2017 will tell for sure.
Expecting EA to bail after a single madden.
Can't argue with that, EA is [parasitic bomb].
Handheld Skyrim, mind you.
Bethesda is not confirming, I guess they're just calling it a mockup. In fact I'm pretty sure that's par for the course with the rest of the games in the trailer. It is EXTREMELY unusual to see Bethesda on board with Nintendo in any way, though, so either they're just being coy or they have something else in mind,
Of course we all KNOW Super Mario and Mario Kart will come in some form or another, and I'd imagine Big N is well aware that if they tease local Splatoon without actually doing it, there will be hell to pay.
Oh thank god we have multiple controler options, and it has a stand. However this thing really needs a flip case or some sort of flap like a Tablet in my honest opinion, I'm worried about scratching the screen.
Yeah, DEFINITELY going to need a carrying case of some sort. Looks a little big for my Club Nintendo pouches. XD
I had my doubts about two players using each detachables, but for something like Mario Kart, holy crap.
Yeah we'll probably need an external battery since this thing has a fan built in.
I can't imagine where the hell they'd fit a fan in the tablet; the dock's USB ports make its back half look bulky by comparison. I'll wager the fan is in the dock for when the system's working harder, that or it was a devkit thing.
Though I'm sure battery will be a concern either way.
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The carrying case is admittedly going to be weird, I imagine that it would have to cover the tablet portion but leave the Joy-Cons exposed just enough so it can still detach no problem while still being thin enough for it to still use the dock. That's why I think the flap would probably be the best bet.
Otherwise, you guys need Messanger Bags, Backpacks or Hammer Space Jackets for this thing, or you know, get the dedicated Nintendo Switch Bag which that comes out, I'm lucky I can get a Hammer Space Purse so I can fit that easy. But I still want a flap for protecting the screen.
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I wouldn't mind having a Switch holster belt. 8D
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http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/10/nintendo_confirms_switch_isnt_physically_backwards_compatible_with_3ds_and_wii_u_software (http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/10/nintendo_confirms_switch_isnt_physically_backwards_compatible_with_3ds_and_wii_u_software)
Famitsu did a small interview with Nintendo and it's comfirmed that the Switch is not backwards compatible with the Wii U or the 3DS.
Nintendo also said that the System's Battery Stamina will be high enough to play comfortably away from the plug, which doesn't really tell us much unfortunately. Full details will be revealed at a later date as planed.
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Not sure how to take it. It's still gimmicky, but not in the Wii/WiiU way.
those snap on controllers seem tiny as hell.
Battery will likely be a [sonic slicer], and i dunno, It's like a weird compromise between console and handheld, but feels a bit too big to be a handheld too.
So far, it seems a bit awkward in general. i know the whole 'take it on the go" thing doesnt quite appeal to me, since when im on the go Im usually doing something.
I guess in the end it just remains to see how good the lineup is, especially the third party lineup. because unless it's got good third party support, I dont think even a Metroid could save it.
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Hmmm you know thinking about the whole Case situation and the Battery concerns perhaps a Power Bank Bag/Case might be another possible idea. Take this 3DS carrying Case as an example.
https://www.amazon.com/Smatree-Charging-Nintendo-Consoles-included/dp/B01FX9PYCQ/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1477075344&sr=8-4&keywords=3ds+Power+Bank (https://www.amazon.com/Smatree-Charging-Nintendo-Consoles-included/dp/B01FX9PYCQ/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1477075344&sr=8-4&keywords=3ds+Power+Bank)
Certainly not the most elegant solution but a compromise to consider.
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http://www.polygon.com/2016/10/21/13362890/nintendo-switch-not-dualscreen (http://www.polygon.com/2016/10/21/13362890/nintendo-switch-not-dualscreen)
Obvious is obvious but it is confirmed none the less.
Nintendo is oddly really dodging those touch screen questions but we'll have to wait and see what's up next year.
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Well, it is a legitimate question to ask if the dock can connect to the tablet wirelessly, not only for that but also if the tablet does turn out to be touch-sensitive, which I'd be SHOCKED if it wasn't.
Doubly so since DeNA, which is Nintendo's mobile partner, is listed in the Switch third party dev image. Nintendo is neither confirming nor denying mobile games when asked, which I take to mean "yes, but we don't want to distract people from getting them on their phones in the meantime".
I'll wager Skyrim's in a similar boat, with its remaster hitting competing consoles very soon.
Also, since we know the Switch is single-screen now:
GET STAR FOX ON IT, NINTENDO
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Seriously we need a Star Fox and a 2nd Kid Icarus Uprising game, hell I'd take a ridiculous crossover of the 2. XD
Mother 3 would also be great.....please?
Along with that, Square can we please get something similar to the PSP ports of FF 1-2, FF3 either the DS or PSP version, and FF4 Complete as well as FF4 for Steam which was based off the mobile version which was based off the DS version on the Switch? That would make me happy since I wouldn't necessarily need to buy a Vita.
Also....give FF5 and FF6 the love they both deserve too, even better if 6 got the FF4 DS treatment in terms of expanded story. But....not the mobile ports.....please no.
Heck Adventures of Mana would be great too, just saying. I mean I know Mana is still dead/in a coma, but it would be really nice to see some different Mana games besides Secret of Mana.
Also along with Mother 3, Seiken Denstsu 3 would make me immensely happy Square.......also a Dragon Quest 9 remake with better graphics and less Internet tied DLC exclusive stuff.
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This is probably stupidly optimistic but I'd be really happy if Virtual Console transferred. Nintendo could stand to throw a bone to people who supported the Wii U.
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Yeah I mean Nintendo really should start implementing some smoother digital account related stuff. Especially since My Nintendo is still really heavily pushing Digital only rewards.
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Also, since we know the Switch is single-screen now:
GET STAR FOX ON IT, NINTENDO
You know, thinking about it, if you strip out the motion controls from Zero then the finetuning of the gyroscope aiming would go missing..
But this is a system with a right analog stick and no obvious reason to actually have independent camera control usually. Hell, the only Star Fox games to have a whole stick for camera control were Adventures and Assault. They could totally fit some aim tuning onto the right stick, it wouldn't be as inherently accurate but these games are all about mastery more than anything.
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Speaking of which we can probably expect Pikmin 4 on the Switch at launch since the 3DS Pikmin side scrolling game is a side game not Pikmin 4 and the actual Pikmin 4 was pretty much at near completion, especially since Pikmin 3 did leave some things hanging.
But it does make me wonder if they're going port Pikmin 3 on the Switch and if they do would it not have Motion Controls. The first 2 Pikmin games being Gamecube games first obviously didn't have motion controls, but most people who have played Pikmin do agree that the Wii versions had better controls because of the waggle.
The Joy-Cons don't really look like they would have motion controls and I certainly don't think that the Wii Motes would be compatible or that they would make Wii Mote succesors, but perhaps it could be something they could talk about/reveal in 2017 since obviously they have more stuff.
Another idea to get around no motion controls is assuming the screen is in fact a touch screen, this could make the throwing of Pikmin and certain other commands even more streamlined but only if you are not playing the Switch while it is docked so we would be forced to use the more inefficient analog control for the Pikmin series while the Switch is in the dock.
I admit I am probably over thinking this but it is something that makes me curious about how the future console Pikmin games will be handled from now on.
Also as an ending side note: PB next time you're in this thread you mind changing the title of the thread to reflect the reveal of the Switch? Or Phi, or Jelly if he somehow pops out of his groundhog hole again relatively soon and beats either of you to the punch.
EDIT: Another thing I thought about, Nintendo oddly left out the Dock and the Joy-Con Grip in one of the previous questions asked in some of the interviews about what would be packaged with the Switch and it got me thinking.
What if there was a Deluxe/Starter package that did in fact include the Dock, possibly the Grip, and if they really wanted to be generous the Switch Pro Controller, but had another but cheaper package that only had the Switch and the Joy-Cons at a greatly reduced price. Because thinking about it from a family or a gaming millennial couple living together perspective, at minimum you would need 2-4 Switches, but only a single TV dock in one single house or apartment.
It wouldn't surprise me if Nintendo was going to do just that.
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I remember seeing a theoretical picture where a game could be bundled with its own Joy-Con attachment to allow for special controls for certain games, but I doubt a feature like that would be utilized by anyone but first-party.
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We don't know what's all in the dock, or for that matter if Nintendo is planning more than one dock model. A basic dock would only require connectors and maybe a fan, shouldn't cost much, and I don't think the Switch should be sold without it. The convenience of the dock is necessary to offset battery concerns.
You know, thinking about it, if you strip out the motion controls from Zero then the finetuning of the gyroscope aiming would go missing..
But this is a system with a right analog stick and no obvious reason to actually have independent camera control usually. Hell, the only Star Fox games to have a whole stick for camera control were Adventures and Assault. They could totally fit some aim tuning onto the right stick, it wouldn't be as inherently accurate but these games are all about mastery more than anything.
Or they could keep the gyroscope with a toggle that ISN'T the fire button. And use an accurate aiming reticule.
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Yeah, this is kind of what happens when I kind of write late at night while having a 3-day long panic attack of sorts, my brain runs 50 miles an hour and misses crucial details.
I agree with you though I do wonder if the dock would be the only way to charge it at the same time, but that's something to talk about in 2017 anyway.
In the meantime the guy who made the color mock-ups made a part 2 for themes.
https://imgur.com/a/rrRFf#VgypiuP (https://imgur.com/a/rrRFf#VgypiuP)
Seriously Nintendo should hire this dude as a designer.
EDIT:
[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQu0hyYcnR4[/yt]
Interview with one of the actors in the commercial.
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I think we all need to keep expectations in check when it comes to third parties- After all, the Wii-U initially had seemingly decent third party support, but then many of those parties jumped ship when the console was actually released
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There's going to be a Switch presentation on January 12th, not a Direct a god damn presentation.
The President also hints at a number of hardware accessories/add-ons to be made for the Switch.
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I think we all need to keep expectations in check when it comes to third parties- After all, the Wii-U initially had seemingly decent third party support, but then many of those parties jumped ship when the console was actually released
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Wii U's third party support at launch (21 companies)
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Switch's third party support at launch (48 companies)
More than twice as much third party support than Wii U did. Even if as many companies jumped ship on Switch as they did on Wii U, we'd still be in some damn fine condition.
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http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/11/capcom_researching_viability_of_ps4_and_xbox_one_ports_on_nintendo_switch (http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/11/capcom_researching_viability_of_ps4_and_xbox_one_ports_on_nintendo_switch)
Capcom trying to see if it's possible to port games from the PS4 and Xbone to the Switch, here's hoping they can.
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Probably possible, but not easy. PS4 and Xbone are [acid burst] easy to port between because they both have the same architecture (x86) and similar AMD-based hardware.
But I'm not ruling it out because, again, the Switch is [tornado fang]ing POWERFUL.
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Yeah, I'm not ruling out it's possible, it's whether Capcom would do it is the thing.
I mean I would like me some Dead Rising 3 with Hyper Drive Arcade mode so the latter is not only Xbone exclusive anymore.
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I guess thread rename is in order now that we know the name?
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I did ask about that in the last page.
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Done
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Looks like Satoryu Switch'd the name of the thread!
8D
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*Click!*
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You sound so excited about this, pondering something?
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More information needed, but I love the idea already. It is the natural evolution of the WiiU in a way. I can take the game with me to poop, or just play in bed. :D
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Probably possible, but not easy. PS4 and Xbone are [acid burst] easy to port between because they both have the same architecture (x86) and similar AMD-based hardware.
But I'm not ruling it out because, again, the Switch is [tornado fang]ing POWERFUL.
Well, it's allegedly easier than it was previously. Nvidia claims that their having a modern GPU with similar features should make things easier.
http://venturebeat.com/2016/11/16/nvidia-porting-ps4-xbox-one-and-pc-games-to-nintendo-switch-is-simple/ (http://venturebeat.com/2016/11/16/nvidia-porting-ps4-xbox-one-and-pc-games-to-nintendo-switch-is-simple/)
If I remember correctly, the Shield was built around that idea, that even though it wasn't x86 its architecture was still supposed to be easy to port to. Switch being the successor to it chip-wise, that would make sense.
So, Mario and Rabbids RPG crossover for the Switch.
http://letsplayvideogames.com/2016/11/report-ubisoft-developing-rabbids-mario-crossover-rpg-for-switch-launch-day/ (http://letsplayvideogames.com/2016/11/report-ubisoft-developing-rabbids-mario-crossover-rpg-for-switch-launch-day/)
This may be the first video game rumor to give me the knee-jerk reaction of, "so batshit crazy that they can't possibly have made it up."
And it actually sounds really exciting. Yoshi at the front and center of an RPG makes it a day-one for me, but against RABBIDS?! Wow. Just, wow. Apparently, there will be a Bowser Rabbid (we already have cat-Bowser, so I guess nothing's off the table), and the party will include a number of minor Mario characters.
I gotta wonder if "minor" just means enemy characters like the old Paper Mario days, or if the likes of Waluigi and Daisy are on the table.
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[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TJ7IUNWGl4[/yt]
Most of you probably already saw this but Reggie and Miyamoto dropped in on the Jimmy Fallon show to showcase Super Mario Run and the Nintendo Switch with Breath of the Wild, and god the frame rate looks great on it.
[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE6N9YOOPeY[/yt]
There's also some interesting analysis with it using the USB-C looking to be confirmed and what looks like a matte screen instead of a glossy one which I think is pretty good since while a glossy screen would look better I [tornado fang]ing hate the sun glare which is something I deal with constantly in So Cal.
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Meanwhile everyone is trying to solve the mystery of Miyamoto's Samurai Mario shirt.
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The inverse is hilarious. (http://"https://i.imgur.com/GFmAgRn.gifv")
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Thank you Vixy darling!!!
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The Switch presentation is less than 8 minutes away, ladies and gents. You can see the stream here:
• https://www.twitch.tv/nintendo (https://www.twitch.tv/nintendo)
• https://www.youtube.com/user/Nintendo (https://www.youtube.com/user/Nintendo)
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The Switch is $300 and Region Free
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Region free, YES!!!
I knew touch was coming but I was honestly surprised to see them doubling down on motion. I got the impression that they were kinda abandoning that on Wii U since around the 2015 holiday, and figured if the JoyCons had anything beyond the IR pointer it would be cheapy/imprecise. I'm glad the tech is there, I just hope they actually use it this time. No more TENNIS GAMES WITHOUT MOTION, and no more WII REMAKES WITHOUT MOTION, okay, Nintendo?
I am curious about the "HD rumble" shpiel. It's just one of those things you have to try for yourself to "get", I suppose. But jeez, how much tech did they cram into those tiny things?
The wrist strap clip was a good idea, those suckers DESPERATELY need a bit more girth when using individually.
Loving the colors. Also, secret shoulder buttons INSIDE the clips? Well played, Nintendo.
No more free online after this fall? Nintendo had better be SERIOUSLY stepping things up... Smart move getting Splatoon 2 out before the cutoff, and while local multiplayer is nice, there seriously needs to be split-screen on the TV. The dual pistols look like lots of fun if they do in fact allow using the JoyCons to aim in two directions at once, and this is coming from someone who hasn't played Splatoon before.
1, 2, Switch is the kind of thing that should be a pack-in, or at the very LEAST digital. It looks like a fun intro to the Switch for your friends, but I don't see anyone carrying a dedicated cartridge for that.
Cannot possibly watch anything related to Arms without thinking of the "Dr. Wily fails at life" Spring Man joke. You know the one. Apparently, the Switch has not only all previous Nintendo system DNA, but also the Ultra Hand as well.
Xenoblade 2's intro had me seriously hoping Monolith was doing a team-up with Capcom, but alas, no such luck. Still looks awesome, though.
SWEET MERCIFUL CRAP, FIRE EMBLEM WARRIORS! SHOW ME IKE AND RAGNELL NOW, DARN YOU!!!
Loving both Dragon Quest and that pixel-art RPG, forgot what it was called.
Super Mario Odyssey, wow. Just, wow. I'm not a specifically 64/Sunshine "sandbox Mario" fan, but I swear I felt their collective orgasm across the planet. A lot of people are happy about that one, I'll bet. And I know I'll buy and love it too, I'm just saying, I was perfectly happy with 3D World.
Zelda is Zelda. We all know we want it.
March 3, for both the system and for Zelda. Sweet! I was expecting mid-to-late in the month, so that was a pleasant surprise.
Was that Fast Racing Neo in the sizzle reel at the end? Excellent!
I was surprised to see no mention of the Virtual Console, digital content storage, or connectivity. Leaves a few unanswered questions, but hopefully Big N will drop some more news on websites, Treehouse, and such.
Also, no Smash Bros. That's sad. But there's so much awesome to digest that I have no room left for that sadness.
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So, NOT in the presentation:
Sonic Mania is now confirmed to ALSO be coming to the Switch (previously we only had confirmation of the 2017 not-Generations-2 game).
Also Bomberman R and a Puyo Puyo/Tetris mashup.
Disgaea 5! I've been meaning to get into that franchise.
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Trailer:
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKlRN2YpxRE#)
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The Switch is $300 and Region Free
Your avatar really sells it. XD
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So, NOT in the presentation:
Sonic Mania is now confirmed to ALSO be coming to the Switch (previously we only had confirmation of the 2017 not-Generations-2 game).
Also Bomberman R and a Puyo Puyo/Tetris mashup.
Disgaea 5! I've been meaning to get into that franchise.
If you want Disgaea 1 is on Steam and Disgaea 2 is coming out on Steam soon as well.
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Silly question, but I take it that Pokemon Gen8 will be on this?
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Silly question, but I take it that Pokemon Gen8 will be on this?
Pokemon Co. has said that they know the Switch is the future but are moving cautiously, not willing to comment on specifics. It is RUMORED that there will be a third version to Sun/Moon on the Switch, but nothing confirmed.
So, scouring the Switch website (http://www.nintendo.com/switch/features/).
The one thing I'm skeptical about is this smart device app that's supposed to accompany their online. I mean, an app to set play appointments is cool, but why in the blue hell is an extra smart device necessary for voice chat?! Couldn't they have done that on the Switch itself?
Damn my 8 GigaCraptacularByte phone...
On the upshot, their paid service will include a free NES/SNES game-of-the-month upgraded with online play. And apparently they'll be doing a PS+-style "exclusive deals" thing, too.
Some of the tech-details, much of which were rumored previously:
-Switch screen is 720p, capacitive multi-touch.
-Switch has 32GB internal storage with microSDXC expansion. Max card size is not specified.
-Though they claim the battery can exceed 6 hours depending on usage, they specifically give Zelda as an example of gameplay lasting around 3 hours.
-There is a brightness sensor on the system.
-The dock has two USB 2.0 ports on the side, and a third USB port in the back whose version is not specified, along with A/C and HDMI. The A/C Adapter port is specifically labeled as such, not sure if that connector is a different shape from the USB C on the bottom of the Switch tablet or not; it looks close but I can't see that clearly. Also the back of the dock flips open, for some reason.
-JoyCons have small "release buttons" behind ZL/ZR. Sync buttons are concealed in the rail.
-Accessories are not cheap. Pro Controller is $70 (!!). Extra JoyCons are $50 individually or $80 for a set of 2 (all JoyCons come with wrist clips). A spare dock is $90 (What in the royal [tornado fang]?! I thought the dock was just a fan and pass-throughs.). Spare JoyCon grip is $30 and also functions as a charger (no word on if it includes the CABLE, though, or what type of port is on the grip). The one cheapy accessory is JoyCon wheels, $15 for a pack of 2. They look cramped, though; barely as wide as the JoyCons themselves.
I still haven't seen anything on what wireless signals the Switch supports. I'm curious if it does 5Ghz or not. Either way I'll probably want to upgrade my router since I have only an N.
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I know it's just a rumour, but a sequel to SM that is on a different console to SM is a very bad move.
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On the upshot, their paid service will include a free NES/SNES game-of-the-month upgraded with online play. And apparently they'll be doing a PS+-style "exclusive deals" thing, too.
Will the free games be free to keep or will they only be available as long you subscribe? The one thing I like about Xbox LIVE's Games with Gold program is that can keep the games they giveaway, even after your Gold membership end.
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No keeps, it's free to play for the month only.
I know it's just a rumour, but a sequel to SM that is on a different console to SM is a very bad move.
The rumor is a third version and not a full sequel. I don't see the problem either way, though. I mean, Mystery Dungeon got away with having two versions on different platforms.
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But MD never had trading... Right?
Same Gen games have always been within the same family of consoles, but well rumours are rumours, so I'll just wait and see if I need to invest in a Switch. 300USD... Man...
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http://youtu.be/1y8AnpXFi2k (http://youtu.be/1y8AnpXFi2k)
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But MD never had trading... Right?
Same Gen games have always been within the same family of consoles, but well rumours are rumours, so I'll just wait and see if I need to invest in a Switch. 300USD... Man...
Not trading, but they did communicate with each other.
Gen 3 was NOT exclusive to one system family, in that Colosseum and Gale of Darkness were both unique adventures that allowed trading with the GBA games.
And besides, we're already paying for Pokemon Bank for transferring across generations. Compared to that, a 3DS-to-Switch wireless link would be cake. It's actually desirable in that like Colosseum it gives you a way to do your own trade-evolutions without duplicate hardware.
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Nintendo Europe put up some semi-detailed specs, though nothing on the actual processor (of course).
USB ports are 2.0 but claim they will be updated to 3.0 in the future. What they intend to do with those ports is anyone's guess, they were still on the fence about USB storage last I checked. They did confirm the existence of a LAN adapter, though, so I guess there's that (I'd just as soon beef up my home wifi so that the connection is consistent when undocked, though).
Curiously, the tablet claims to support Bluetooth 4.1 in TV docked mode only, while the JoyCons specifically use Bluetooth 3.0. The hopeful speculation is that this is another pointer at Switch-connected headsets (the other being the wired headset by Afterglow and the fact that it is advertised to connect to the system) so that the phone app is not mandatory for chatting. Thing is, if that is true, that would mean that without the phone app, you'd be looking at Bluetooth only for docked, and wired only for portable.
SDXC cards require a system update before they work for some reason. I guess not a biggie since if you don't have internet, you wouldn't need an SDXC card.
Nintendo's UK site is also more specific with games, telling you which ones are carts and which ones are downloadable (to be fair, the U.S. site has pricing on a few of the game, whereas UK does not). The digital downloads so far are I Am Setsuna, Snipperclips, and Fast RMX. Out of those three, Snipperclips is the only one the U.S. gives pricing on (20 bucks).
Skylanders footage shows the use of the touch screen for menu navigation, which apparently Nintendo has not shown otherwise. Speaking of Skylanders, Switch version doesn't require a portal, the game can use the JoyCon NFC point, so traveling with figures is slightly less inconvenient.
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https://twitter.com/nintendeal/status/834798157426937856
HELL. YES.
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I'll be checking out the Switch tonight. Impressions to come either tonight or tomorrow.
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Going to be getting one launch day and streaming it all the weekend. Playing Zelda of course.
Oh and giving one away too. Details to come on how to enter for that.
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Okay time for impressions.
Event opened, we walked down a red walkway right to the stage at the far end of the room it was set up in, that was nice. There were 4 demo stations for each game on display that was playable except Zelda, which had about 16 or so. Anyways, to go in order of what we played (went with my fiancé).
ARMS: Very intuitive controls. I picked the robo-girl and he picked Spring Man (really I just keep thinking MM when I hear that name). We went through the tutorial first. Very basic stuff. Tilt Joy-Cons to move, L/R dashes in the direction you're tilting, punch to punch, tilt to turn punch, ZL/ZR to activate Flurry which just lets you unleash a bunch of punches. That's basically it for controls. And then you get into it, where you get to pick which parts you want for each arm, and that's where the fun begins. You've got your basic fists, you've got the 3-fists-in-one that I had default as robo-girl, and then there's also a boomerang. In Flurry mode these get powered up and the boomerang basically becomes the Gale Boomerang from Twilight Princess. It's great fun, I can see it being fantastic for party mode.
Next up we played Disgaea 5 Complete, which was pretty standard as far as Disgaea goes. Nothing really special to mention there. After this we also grabbed our tickets for Zelda because we had to get in a group based upon time slots.
After that I went on stage to challenge someone in Quick Draw, part of 1-2-Switch. The way this works is both players get in position holding their Joy-Con down with their finger on the trigger (ZL/ZR depending on the Joy-Con) and listen for the audio cue. The game goes READY then STEADY... and when it says FIRE both players raise and fire to see who gets the shot off first. The game then says the exact time it took for each player to fire and even shows the angle the controllers were at while moving. I won the first game, but lost the second. Got a nice Switch hat. I was kinda on the fence about 1-2-Switch but I can see it's very well-made and will be a blast at parties.
Next up was Sonic Mania, which I didn't even know would be there. This took just one Joy-Con set horizontally to control. Knuckles was unfortunately not playable in the demo, and we could only choose between Green Hill Zone and Studiopolis. I picked the latter and it controlled wonderfully. Took a bit to get used to the Drop Dash but it's well made, and the level design is wonderful. Even more hype for this one now.
Then after that we played a bit of ULTRA STREET FIGHTER II. Did three rounds of this. First round I was Zangief and my fiancé was Dhalsim. I won in the 3rd round. Next up I was Ryu and he was Vega. He annihilated me lol, and he did again in the final battle between Guile and Blanka.
After that we did some Mario Kart 8 Deluxe battle mode. I needed revenge. Picked Fem-Villager and he chose Waluigi. Course was randomly picked, and it was Battle Course 1 from Super Mario Kart. The mode was Bob-Omb Blast, where the only item you get it Bob-Ombs and you can hold as many as you collect because the point is to blow EVERYTHING UP JUST BLOW IT ALL UP OH THE HUMANITY IT ALL BLEW UP. I was in the lead for a short while (when you're in the lead you end up wearing a crown and it goes away once you lose that lead) and ended up 3rd overall (we were playing against 10 CPU). I'm sure that in the full game you'll be able to turn off CPUs entirely in Battle Mode because you can do that in MK8 already.
After that we kept the explosions going in Super Bomberman R. Which is classic Bomberman action brought back to current consoles. So much fun. Also includes the whole "when you die you get to throw bombs from the edges" thing from some installments, and if you take someone out in this way you take their place and rejoin the fray. And if you land a bomb directly on someone while on the sidelines (you usually throw one space away, not in the adjacent one) you'll stun them. Great fun, and up to 8 players too iirc. We only had 4 though.
Then we went to Puyo Puyo Tetris. They had us stick to the Swap mode of multiplayer, which would keep you in Puyo Puyo mode for 30 seconds then swap to the Tetris board for 30 seconds and then back to Puyo Puyo for another 30 seconds and so on and so forth until someone lost. And the board you started on wasn't always Puyo Puyo, it would randomly choose at the start of each round. Very basic fare for both of those, and if you had a combo going in one mode as it swapped it would continue and affect the other. So it's really built for those who are good at both. However, my fiancé was rockin' the Tetris board while I was rockin' the Puyo Puyo side so we balanced each other out that way. So it works.
Lastly, we played our demos of Breath of the Wild. You start off doing a new game, and have to OPEN YOUR EYES. Then get the slate, get clothes and climb outside. From there you get to do anything, which we of course already knew. That's not the point of THIS impression. It's nice to be right into the game that quickly compared to other Zelda games that have absurdly lengthy intros *coughSScough*. I went right, found a stick, gathered mushrooms, then set the stick on fire and started a small grassfire because lol. Also apparently hitting apples with a burning stick bakes them, so that was nice. I then found an axe, cut down a tree, and entered the Temple of Time. Or the ruins of it, at least. Prayed to the statue of the Goddess Hylia, and then headed outside and tried to climb the temple. Failed. Walked 10 feet to the right and found a ladder. Climbed it, found a bow, and then jumped off... and died. Link's leg was bent in the completely wrong direction so that visual was well-done. Reloaded the save and then tried to climb down the ladder and ended up jumping off (not dying this time) and then found a Bokoblin base. Managed to take them out with the axe, including the really tough leader (this was in the skull rock y'all might've seen in screenshots being blown up). The leader kept leaving himself open long enough for my axe swing to connect twice and cancel his attack. He even leapt at me once and I knocked him like 10 feet away! Also stole his spiked club (which has like 3x the attack power of the axe) and killed him with it. Also when firing arrows you'll need to adjust for distance because the physics engine in the game is very well made. I killed a few more Bokoblins, stole their meat, and them climbed a rock... and then the demo time was up. And then we left because nothing else really interested us. My fiancé's playthrough consisted of him bumbling into the Talus Steppe thing (the giant rock golem) and getting murdered. He also successfully hunted a boar (headshots are the way to go, he says, as hitting them anywhere else causes them to flee, and you need to use a bow. Also be very aware of how much sound you're making, it tells you in the lower-right corner), and then fell to his doom and then drowned trying to catch a fish. Both of us were very pleased.
But yeah we left after that. They gave us cookies with the Switch logo on them as we left. All in all, great games. Didn't really check out anything else (wasn't interested in them). The controllers are very comfortable and lightweight. Forgot to play in tablet mode cause I didn't think about it, OH WELL.
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We have a confirmation of a Handheld/Touch Screen only game known as VOZE. It was a rhythm game that once on IOS and Android.
Now before some of you start panicking about the Switch being a host of a ton of crappy ass mobile games hear me out. I think this is actually absolutely brilliant. It opens the window for more unique games and allows developers to not be forced to use the dock if they really don't want to for their game. Granted I would prefer that it not be the other way around and having a lot of dock only games, though to me it honestly doesn't matter to me regardless because I plan to play games like BoW dock only anyway but I also know people will [sonic slicer] about not being able to play those games on the go since the portability is a major selling point of the Switch, it's still nice to give developers the freedom of choice.
It also gives me the idea that Square can make a Chrono Trigger DS port for the Switch but have the Mobile UI on the Handheld Mode if they want to, but hopefully nicer looking like the DS version. I actually think the original Chrono Trigger UI on the SNES is kind of clunky compared to say Final Fantasy, but that's just me.
However Square better not use this as an excuse to port the Mobile Versions of FF5 and 6 to the Switch and call it a day. Mobile FF1-4 okay though 3 and 4 need to have options for the Dock. But they better not do FF5 and 6......
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They better put Adventures of Mana on it then.
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They better put Adventures of Mana on it then.
This. Seriously.
I mean hell it's on the PS Vita/PSTV it'd be prefer for Mobile and Docked!
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I put it on BlueStacks, the Android emulator (you can link and download from Google Play), and it worked fantastic on my gaming rig. Use Joy2Key to hook up a gamepad and viola.
Would still want it working on a console though. Portable on switch? Yes please.
Oh, also;
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Actually getting it after work tomorrow but still. I will drop my giveaway tomorrow as well.
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Didn't pre-order or buy any spare Switch for Launch, just want to wait for the reviews and such and wait to hear what the people say about it and possibly try it out a demo of the console somewhere.
Also been a while guys, been super busy... playing Nioh a lot and SUPER fun... so I hope you guys enjoy the Switch. I'll eventually get it, but not right now.
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So, I got:
-Neon Switch
-Zelda Special (non-Master) Edition
-Princess Zelda Amiibo
-Pro Controller
-Fast RMX
-Shovel Knight Treasure Trove
LOVE having Fast Racing on the go. Runs silky smooth. I swear Shin'en is the new Factor 5, their stuff looks awesome. It may just be me, but RMX doesn't seem to punish you quite as harshly as Neo for crashing.
Zelda is Zelda. Excellent. AND LIMITLESS BOMBS, that helps offset the whole weapon durability crap. The game chugs a little at random grassy spots but it is very rare. You have to progress a while before you can scan Amiibo. Special Edition's carrying case has a velcro strap to hold the Switch in place on one side, a mesh pocket for accessories in the other, and cloth straps in the middle to hold game cards. The map/tapestry looks water damaged, it's a thing I guess.
Switch signs into your Nintendo Account (as in My Nintendo rewards), NOT Nintendo Network ID. You can give it your NNID to merge wallets (and it is a merge, not a transfer), but that's it. Friends will be suggested if you're already connected in Nintendo's mobile phone games (which is hilarious since being Friends in Fire Emblem Heroes means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, that game asks you to send a friend request after literally every single Arena duel). There is no importing from social media, Miiverse, or Nintendo Network.
Physical games can be registered for My Nintendo points through the system menu.
Image sharing links to either Facebook or Twitter. Twitter will auto-hashtag with the game title, Facebook will not. Both can be registered but only one can post at a time.
Miis can be imported through Amiibo (that is, the Amiibo's registered owner).
eShop will not let you Wishlist an unreleased game. (EDITS: They did fix this at some point.)
Joycon signal bug is real, as I found out when my daughter climbed up to me, so hopefully they fix it soon. They are cozy to hold (I have gigantic hands, ask PB). The L/R buttons are TINY, very narrow but usable. SL/SR are centered horizontally with the controller edges and not the stick/face buttons, so your grip will differ a bit when using sideways. I personally prefer the right; left has stick, SL, and edge of controller so close together that my left hand is in a near pinching position. Not a fan of the grip, it works but I'd rather freestyle. It has no electronics; the player lights are reflected from the Joycons' lights. All connections are secure, you can hold the Switch by one Joycon without concern. Wrist straps lock in HARD, though, to the point where they're tough to remove. Grip and system release more easily but there's no way in heck you'd ever do so accidentally.
Pro Controller is surprisingly cozy. Buttons are clicky, shoulder buttons are large with nice contours, sticks feel better than Wii U Pro (the center isn't raised as high). It's also USB C, same as the system. Comes with an A to C cable so you can charge via the dock.
Overall love the system.
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[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb-srOfRqNc[/yt]
We are Nintendo's beta testers
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No problems here yet. You're of course going to get a highlight reel cause this is the age of Youtube, so it's hard to say how much of this is just a normal amount of defective units or if it is abnormal. Same was done for the PS4's launch but no one remembers that anymore. Same for the Xbox360's black slim models.
As for the controllers de-syncing, I have a theory. By no means a defense, but wireless communication usually gets cut off in front of TV's. If you put a bluetooth near a TV screen it'll kill the signal immediately most of the time. I had non-bluetooth wireless keyboard and mice that did the same as well. There may be frequencies that don't have this problem, as I have one mouse that does work in that case, but it's possible the Switch uses that. I think it has to do with the radiation coming off the screen overpowering it.
I agree that the Switch doesn't feel that sturdy. The base especially feels cheap and I was very surprised to see that the screen contacting part of the base was simply plastic. Disappointed on that. My joycons don't wiggle when in handheld mode though, that I have noticed.
I think part of the problem is also that the Switch, unlike the 3DS, and WiiU, has barely any protection int he box. The packaging is very bare and the screen is flat agaisnt the side of the box with basically no protection.
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The thing is, this is surprisingly unlike Nintendo.
They're usually very careful with assuring stability of their consoles at launch. If I hypothetically bought a Switch that managed to function properly, seeing these videos of other people receiving defected systems would still [acid burst] me off. None of their previous systems had a flurry of issues like this.
EDIT: That video made 4 million views in only 2 days, and it's trending
Holy [tornado fang]
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The Joycon connection is the only thing that bugs me as far as the hardware goes. The consensus that I'm hearing is that anything conductive (water, metal, human body) interferes with bluetooth and the Joycon's signal is just too weak. My gigantic hands make this a problem for me in my living room as I need to watch how I hold the Joycons; if I hold the left one upright it becomes a big issue.
One of the YouTubers I follow did a teardown of the Joycons, which showed a small but separate antenna in the right, while the left's is etched into the circuit board...right next to the metal plate at the base of the analogue stick. The signal can be DRASTICALLY improved by soldering a small wire into the opposite direction, although this is not recommended for obvious warranty/risk of damage concerns.
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnMnke6lF0c#[/yt]
What bothers me most about this is the question of how the hell nobody noticed this in product testing. This strikes me as same the kind of "works in a kiosk, doesn't work in a living room" error that convinced Miyamoto that Star Fox Zero was a good idea.
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The thing is, this is surprisingly unlike Nintendo.
I'll agree to that. Nintendo is usually better on their game.
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Splatoon 2 and Arms are a lot of fun. MK8 Deluxe gives me proper battle mode back. I am the happy!
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Apparently the newer JoyCons are connecting better. Cnet, of all places, gave Nintendo props for repairing their launch unit, took inside photos before and after, and noted that a new standalone left JoyCon that they purchased in the meantime did not have the issue despite appearing visually like the defective unit. Nintendo added what appears to be a piece of conductive foam to the defective unit and returned the same one, as far as they can tell.
https://www.cnet.com/news/nintendo-switch-joycon-desync-connectivity-issue-fix/ (https://www.cnet.com/news/nintendo-switch-joycon-desync-connectivity-issue-fix/)
Evidently something very subtle went wrong during manufacturing one of the batches. Nintendo has issued a statement confirming that it was in fact a manufacturing issue and not a design issue. Good to know, but it's still always a hassle for those affected.
https://mynintendonews.com/2017/03/22/nintendo-joy-con-wireless-issues-were-caused-by-manufacturing-variation/ (https://mynintendonews.com/2017/03/22/nintendo-joy-con-wireless-issues-were-caused-by-manufacturing-variation/)