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Title: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: VixyNyan on May 21, 2013, 06:53:51 PM
Live Stream here:
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/hub/reveal

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbWgUO-Rqcw[/youtube]

(http://i.minus.com/iBzvb2JSpQNRM.gif)

(http://i.imgur.com/bXKSmTA.jpg)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPjUO2YSjn0[/youtube]

(http://livedoor.4.blogimg.jp/hetmk73/imgs/4/a/4a2e7de6.gif)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img507/3454/1371007350784.png)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKlsf50y0m4[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ekOtn7L1N0[/youtube]
Title: XBOX ONE
Post by: Police Girl on May 21, 2013, 07:07:31 PM
Less a minute to go.

I wonder what they're going to do to [acid burst] everybody off? Digital only/No Used Games? Always Online?

Oh, here's the self-gratification reel.

Oh, Cloud? Just call it a [tornado fang]ing server.

Hey cool they're talking about Not-The-Xbox and instead a ton of other [parasitic bomb].

Home entertainment system. So not a games console.

Its a black Box.

Posted on: May 21, 2013, 11:59:12 AM
The name sucks.

The controller is decent, why fix what wasn't broken.

I see a disc drive, and a Kinect Two.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Rin on May 21, 2013, 07:11:00 PM
XBOX ONE
BECAUSE IT'S ALL IN ONE
GEDDIT?
he he

I don't even want to watch this anymore, RMZX, mah man, fill me in on the details later.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on May 21, 2013, 07:12:20 PM
Okay.

Voice Commands, I bet that'll work great...

"Go to Internet Explorer, Oh nice". Yeah, don't kid yourself Microsoft Devs.

Oh wow he really is [tornado fang]ing advertising Star Trek.

Snap Mode: AKA Multitasking with a name they can copyright.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 21, 2013, 07:12:41 PM
It's seriously called that?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on May 21, 2013, 07:14:56 PM
You bet it is.

They're doing this to be confusing, I swear.
Sports stuff, Not interesting, people are applauding because Fantasy sports is a thing for some reason.

No, I don't care what you can do with the Super Bowl or Golden Globes, or TV in general, show us something different, I can do all of this on my Cable Box, I don't need Voice Controls for TV.

Oh yeah, because I totally need Skype and TV on my game console. Oh wait, I'm sorry, its an Entertainment System.

Kinect is not important.

Xbox Live reinvented? How about some Free Live?

BLU-RAY CONFIRMED. Something good for once.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on May 21, 2013, 07:20:17 PM
Did they show any games?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: VixyNyan on May 21, 2013, 07:20:39 PM
..... g-games? '>.>
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on May 21, 2013, 07:22:07 PM
Did they show any games?

Nope, they just want to show all the "cool" features.

There aren't any games.

Stop Advertising [tornado fang]ing Star Trek, how much is Abrams paying you?

Oh boy Kinect, people really want to see that. ::)

So... its MoCap without the Green Dot suit. Okay, don't care.

Is the D-Pad any good?

Uhh... Smart Glass? What.

Oh, the tablet can be a remote control? Jeez, that's never been done before!

Oh yeah, Xbox Live is so much different because its totally not the same thing, trust us, because it has more servers.

I want my content on my hard drive, being on the cloud means I lose [parasitic bomb] if the servers go down for maintenance.

Oh, so Achievements are different? How? They're not, stop making poetry out of empty words.

Oh boy EA. Don't care.

EA and Microsoft Team up, more Sports games.

Why are you applauding this is just the same [parasitic bomb] EA puts out every year.

No, none of this will fundamentally change anything, its a [tornado fang]ing sports game.

Blurring the line between real and fake? No thanks I don't need that.

EA Sports Self-Gratification Reel.

Graphics don't make a game, if EA made good games any more they would know this.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Rin on May 21, 2013, 07:33:09 PM
Shame I don't visit /v/ anymore.
I think the shitstorm would be amusing...
[spoiler]They still discuss games there, right?[/spoiler]
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on May 21, 2013, 07:34:07 PM
I don't know.
Probably not.

Oh, they made Fifa Xbox exclusive apparently. Oh well.

Here's more "LOOK AT OUR GRAPHICS" [parasitic bomb].

Oh, they wanted these to look real? They're really blind to what real looks like I guess.

My favorite Xbox franchises? I don't think those exist.

Oh hey more REALISM CARS. I feel like I'm in Sony's Conference again.

Okay what's next, apparently they're just blowing steam.

Oh yeah, this is a game. Totally not people acting.

This could be alright. If it actually showed something other than some odd Live Action stuff.

"Investing more than ever", can't wait to hear "Failed AAA" again.

8 new franchises? People trying something new? My god.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on May 21, 2013, 07:40:03 PM
I'm actually cool with racing games.
Title: The brand new Xbox TV DVR featuring Sports, Skype and Halo by Steven Spielberg
Post by: Police Girl on May 21, 2013, 07:43:56 PM
Oh come on we already talked about [tornado fang]ing TV.

Are you going to talk about Star Trek next?

If I wanted a watercooler I'd get a watercooler, not an Xbox. You can't put water in an Xbox.

Oh hey halo, You're looking... the same as ever.

Here's some more person plugging stuff that's not what they're supposed to be talking about.

Oh, never mind. This is about a [tornado fang]ing Halo TV show... By SPEILBERG? The [tornado fang]?

This is just... sad.

Oh hey more TV and LIVE SPORTS. Because that's something that's not been talked about already.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on May 21, 2013, 07:49:06 PM
Yeah, I'm watching some of this [parasitic bomb]. This is really bad.

PS4 conference was focusing on GAMES. This is focusing on TV instead.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on May 21, 2013, 07:50:37 PM
Its like they're not sure they're supposed to be talking about a Game Console and are instead talking about everything else.


Wait, is that it?

"Later This Year" Yeah, we kinda [tornado fang]ing figured.

Oh yeah DLC for Call of Duty on Xbox, paying $15 for three Maps.

I don't care about Call of Duty, go away Activision Devs.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on May 21, 2013, 07:53:25 PM
Call of Duty [parasitic bomb]? Go to hell.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on May 21, 2013, 07:54:24 PM
"We could do the safe thing but we did the right thing."

"New Next Gen CoD engine"

Don't kid yourself, its going to be the same as every other Call of Duty.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 21, 2013, 07:55:20 PM
I know I don't like Xbox, but this is just pathetic.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on May 21, 2013, 07:56:05 PM
OOHH A DOG.

Call of Duty is COMPLETELY CHANGED FOREVER.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on May 21, 2013, 07:56:33 PM
Call of Duty? Booooooooooooooo. >^<
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on May 21, 2013, 07:56:50 PM
"We could do the safe thing but we did the right thing."

"New Next Gen CoD engine"

Don't kid yourself, its going to be the same as every other Call of Duty.

Precisely my thoughts.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Rin on May 21, 2013, 07:57:41 PM
THIS IS IT!
SONY AND NINTENDO ARE FINISHED!
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on May 21, 2013, 07:58:07 PM
Whee, AI, Whee, Fancy Graphics.

This is just... magical, thank you Microsoft for making the PS4 Announcement look good compared to this.

Hey guys, you forgot to show the 13-year olds that play CoD.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 21, 2013, 07:58:24 PM
I didn't miss anything. Gotcha.

So lemme get this straight, Nintendo gets [parasitic bomb] on for not doing anything big at E3 when Sony & Microsoft pretty much told us everything except the price and HURRAY? Joy.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on May 21, 2013, 07:59:56 PM
People said PS3 had No Games

People said Wii U had No Games

No, Xbox One has NO GAMES.

More Activision Self-Indulgence.

This is like the Old Man thing with the PS4.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 21, 2013, 08:00:19 PM
I didn't miss anything. Gotcha.

So lemme get this straight, Nintendo gets [parasitic bomb] on for not doing anything big at E3 when Sony & Microsoft pretty much told us everything except the price and HURRAY? Joy.
Yeah I don't get it either, at least the Wii U has games and shown games before the Wii U started to sell.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on May 21, 2013, 08:01:15 PM
Whee, AI, Whee, Fancy Graphics.

This is just... magical, thank you Microsoft for making the PS4 Announcement look good compared to this.

Hey guys, you forgot to show the 13-year olds that play CoD.

I thought the PS4 conference was pretty good. It actually showed a decent amount of games, including that awesome looking Deep Down.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on May 21, 2013, 08:04:13 PM
Yeah... this is just terrible.

You look at the people in front, nobody's clapping or anything.

Just the people in the back.

They're apparently Microsoft Employees.

Second-Screen Integration? So Wii U?

We just SAW the CoD Ghosts Premiere. Stop coming back to it.

I thought the PS4 conference was pretty good. It actually showed a decent amount of games, including that awesome looking Deep Down.

Yeah, that's true, but it wasn't without its goofiness.

Posted on: May 21, 2013, 01:01:36 PM
Oh, guess that was it.

[tornado fang] you Microsoft.

http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/21/4350662/new-xbox-has-no-backwards-compatibilty
AND NO BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY TO BE HAD.

Can't wait till all the 360's in the world die out and nobody can ever play those games again.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on May 21, 2013, 08:06:01 PM
Seriously? That was it?

Ahhahahahahahahaaha
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on May 21, 2013, 08:07:53 PM
Son, I am disappoint as [tornado fang]. -AC

..... g-games? '>.>
*pats your shoulder* Let's pray E3 will be better... ::)
Title: XBOX ONE ANNOUNCEMENT (It was [parasitic bomb].)
Post by: Police Girl on May 21, 2013, 08:09:08 PM
So here's our new information.

-Live TV
-Skype
-15 Game Exclusives, 8 New IPs
-CLOUD
-Multitasking with a copyrightable name
-Sports
-Terrible Name
-Self-Gratification from EA and Activision
-Halo the TV Series
-People plugging things
-Oh and I guess a game or two that we didn't already know about.
-No Backwards Compatibility with Xbox 360
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on May 21, 2013, 08:10:59 PM
http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/21/4350662/new-xbox-has-no-backwards-compatibilty
AND NO BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY TO BE HAD.

Can't wait till all the 360's in the world die out and nobody can ever play those games again.
Well [tornado fang] me sideways with a boa constrictor and an elephant. o//////o
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 21, 2013, 08:13:04 PM
Ahhhhhhh No Backwards compatibility. What's that, Wii U? You can still play my Wii game. Yes you can. YES YOU CAN! XD
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Mirby on May 21, 2013, 08:14:48 PM
To quote James Montagna from WayForward...

"xbox controller looks mad catz as f*ck!!!!!!!!"

cause it totally does
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on May 21, 2013, 08:16:10 PM
Ahhhhhhh No Backwards compatibility. What's that, Wii U? You can still play my Wii game. Yes you can. YES YOU CAN! XD
Isn't its backward compatibility precious? You're just adorable. :3  
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Align on May 21, 2013, 08:17:34 PM
I'm gonna call it the nextbox.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 21, 2013, 08:19:18 PM
Ahhhhhhh No Backwards compatibility. What's that, Wii U? You can still play my Wii game. Yes you can. YES YOU CAN! XD
Not to mention if you keep your Wii it'll essentially be your GameCube.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on May 21, 2013, 08:20:52 PM
Not to mention if you keep your Wii it'll essentially be your GameCube.

A PC makes a better Gamecube than a Gamecube or Wii (Most of the time at least).
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 21, 2013, 08:22:01 PM
A PC makes a better Gamecube than a Gamecube or Wii (Most of the time at least).
As in emulation or modifying?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on May 21, 2013, 08:24:30 PM
Not to mention if you keep your Wii it'll essentially be your GameCube.
The old Wii at least; if I recall correctly, the slim model ditched GameCube support. :(

I'm gonna call it the nextbox.
To TV Tropes! 8D
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on May 21, 2013, 08:24:36 PM
Emulation.

HD Gamecube games look nice.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 21, 2013, 08:25:49 PM
The old Wii at least; if I recall correctly, the slim model ditched GameCube support. :(
There's a slim model, I thought the Wii only had one model.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on May 21, 2013, 08:26:18 PM
The old Wii at least; if I recall correctly, the slim model ditched GameCube support. :(

They look the same though, the Mini and the 2011 hardware revision are the ones that have no Gamecube support.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 21, 2013, 08:30:17 PM
I didn't realize they actually had different models. :\
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on May 21, 2013, 08:31:48 PM
The Mini is Canada/Europe only I think.

The other one is basically the same but is missing the Gamecube ports.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on May 21, 2013, 08:32:53 PM
Well I'm glad I got a Wii in 2006, although the default storage space is a pain in the ass. :\

I didn't realize they actually had different models. :\
I saw an article about it somewhere, which kinda surprised me they'd go anorexic with the Wii, but I forgot where it was.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Mirby on May 21, 2013, 08:38:25 PM
The more recent Wii models actually retain the slots in the casing for the Gamecube controller/memory card ports, but there's nothing going TO those holes. So yeah, GCN support removed.

and the Wii Mini lacks those AND any internet capabilities whatsoever.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Kieran on May 21, 2013, 08:43:04 PM
No backwards compatibility, and just to keep you from getting your hopes up, no used games either.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/407912/microsoft-confirms-pre-owned-fee-for-xbox-one/

Basically, each game disc will be tied to an individual XBL account, and if someone buys it off you used, they have to pay a fee to get it to work.

Someone play me a dirge for Microsoft, will you?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on May 21, 2013, 08:47:55 PM
That is [tornado fang]ing hilarious.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on May 21, 2013, 08:53:33 PM
No backwards compatibility, and just to keep you from getting your hopes up, no used games either.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/407912/microsoft-confirms-pre-owned-fee-for-xbox-one/

Basically, each game disc will be tied to an individual XBL account, and if someone buys it off you used, they have to pay a fee to get it to work.

Someone play me a dirge for Microsoft, will you?

So they did it after all.

Congrats Microsoft, your dedication to screwing consumers over is going to kill your system.

Hell, this also kills Rentals AND Borrowing games from friends.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 21, 2013, 09:07:34 PM
It screws over GameStop.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Mirby on May 21, 2013, 09:10:03 PM
Oh! I just got the name.

It's a countdown of their demise.

It's currently at one and next up...

also it doesn't really screw GameStop over since there's other systems that they can still profit off of that don't discourage used games.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on May 21, 2013, 09:10:09 PM
It screws over GameStop.
That's literally the only plus.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 21, 2013, 09:15:04 PM
Oh yeah, the PS4 & Wii U will still do the used games thing. But XBox is still a hot commodity and losing a 3rd of their used game vulturism is pretty huge.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Mirby on May 21, 2013, 09:16:53 PM
GameStop has started to venture into mobile tech, so there's some money to be made there.

All I'm saying is that this won't cripple GameStop; if anything, it'll be a bit of an annoyance, but they'll manage to recover with everything else that's going for them.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Rin on May 21, 2013, 09:20:10 PM
https://twitter.com/CollarDuty

Friend linked me this.
Have a laugh.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on May 21, 2013, 09:24:51 PM
Oh yeah, the PS4 & Wii U will still do the used games thing. But XBox is still a hot commodity and losing a 3rd of their used game vulturism is pretty huge.
Wait, so that means if I get a game used, it can't played on the Xbox ONE? How many times are they going to shoot themselves in the crouch until they realized they're screwing up? BIG TIME!
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 21, 2013, 09:26:03 PM
https://twitter.com/CollarDuty

Friend linked me this.
Have a laugh.

That was indeed hilarious! Thanks.

Wait, so that means if I get a game used, it can't played on the Xbox ONE? How many times are they going to shoot themselves in the crouch until they realized they're screwing up? BIG TIME!

No, it can. But you have to pay extra for it. So, say a friend wants to lend you a game you want to try before deciding to buy it. Well, you have to pay a fee for that now.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Kieran on May 21, 2013, 09:30:45 PM
And it follows you'll have to pay a fee to Microsoft to rent games for it, too.  If anybody bothers renting them out, because of that, that is.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on May 21, 2013, 09:31:40 PM
Hell, if you just rent it you'll pretty much own it.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 21, 2013, 09:33:24 PM
And it follows you'll have to pay a fee to Microsoft to rent games for it, too.  If anybody bothers renting them out, because of that, that is.

I doubt people would pay two separate fees to rent a game.

I sure as hell wouldn't
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on May 21, 2013, 09:33:53 PM
https://twitter.com/CollarDuty

Friend linked me this.
Have a laugh.

If I had a twitter account, that would be the first thing I follow!
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on May 21, 2013, 09:40:21 PM
Take this with a grain of salt because IGN, but...

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/21/xbox-one-will-not-function-without-kinect-attached

Microsoft's going Skynet on us.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on May 21, 2013, 09:41:58 PM
I don't think I have the capacity to hate this system more.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on May 21, 2013, 09:42:49 PM
It literally cannot get any worse.

Though... on top of installing all games...

http://www.edge-online.com/news/xbox-one-will-require-internet-connection-all-games-must-be-installed/

Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on May 21, 2013, 09:44:53 PM
No, it can. But you have to pay extra for it. So, say a friend wants to lend you a game you want to try before deciding to buy it. Well, you have to pay a fee for that now.
(http://i.imgur.com/K2i3p.png)

Wow. [tornado fang]ing, wow. That just further adds to Microsoft as nothing but a bunch of greedy bastards.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on May 21, 2013, 09:51:26 PM
Microsoft wants to ensure they get ALL the profits from their games. Greedy, indeed.

For such an "economy savvy" company, they're not very smart.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: The Great Gonzo on May 21, 2013, 09:56:22 PM
Well, if I wasn't uninterested in the Nextbox before...

I mean, come on. Fees for buying a used game or trying out a buddy's copy. That's the kind of user-unfriendliness they only talk about in fairy tales. I know that it's hard to make much money on games anymore, but surely there has to be a better way than thinly-veiled contempt for your own customer base (or bullshit that could be interpreted as such).
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 21, 2013, 09:58:01 PM
I just want to flip a table right now, and I don't even like Xbox. -AC
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 21, 2013, 09:59:24 PM
It's not the greed aspect that bothers me, cause they're a company and they want to make money. It's just the way they go about trying to make money that's the problem. Look, I fully understand their desire to combat used games since they make no profit out of it. But to combat the threat by spitting on your loyal, new game buying non-piracy customers is not the way to go about it. I mean, let's face it. XBox goes head to head with PS4 in terms of it's 3rd party games. So if both systems are coming out around the same time as each other, will probably cost the same, and they both offer no backwards compatibility, the majority of gamers are only going to choose one system for the time being. I don't know about anyone else, but I'd choose the system in which I can borrow a game from a friend to try it out.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on May 21, 2013, 09:59:51 PM
It literally cannot get any worse.

Though... on top of installing all games...

http://www.edge-online.com/news/xbox-one-will-require-internet-connection-all-games-must-be-installed/
(http://i.imgur.com/o2Im42q.jpg)
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on May 21, 2013, 10:11:13 PM
Wow. Microsoft has completely doomed their console before it's even been released. If Gamestop decides not to sell it because of the used games thing... Can you imagine the losses the ONE will suffer, and the advantages the PS4 will have?

Quote
The company added that, once discs are installed on the hard drive, games can be played without a disc being in the tray.
Then for the love of God, WHAT THE [tornado fang] IS THE POINT OF HAVING A DAMN DISC!?

Why not just CUT the middle man altogether and go all digital..?

Well, looks like PS4 it is. From the few extreme close ups (http://kotaku.com/here-are-the-only-images-we-have-of-the-ps4-so-far-508892300) of it, it still looks like it will be a hell of a lot prettier.

Seriously. This thing looks terrible.

(http://asset2.cbsistatic.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim2/2013/05/21/XboxD_Logo_Consle_Sensr_controller_F_GreenBG_RGB_2013_610x610.jpg)

It looks like an Over glorified DVD player.

EDIT:


Someone play me a dirge for Microsoft, will you?
How's this?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkkwpldMhGc[/youtube]
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Jericho on May 21, 2013, 10:12:29 PM
This [parasitic bomb] is trash.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 21, 2013, 10:13:34 PM
Even though I didn't like the PS4 controller, it at least looks better than that.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Jericho on May 21, 2013, 10:16:00 PM
Think about this for a second, this reveal was so bad, it reminded me that I didn't make a thread here for it and came here just to make such an inflammatory post.

Holy [tornado fang] Microsoft.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on May 21, 2013, 10:16:42 PM
I can't imagine anybody would want to buy this, not after all of this [parasitic bomb] has come out.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 21, 2013, 10:17:23 PM
And they say that Nintendo should pull a Sega?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on May 21, 2013, 10:19:14 PM
Indie and PC gaming: Please for the love a God do not go this route. Ever.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: VixyNyan on May 21, 2013, 10:19:42 PM
I'm happy enough with my existing X360 with actual good games, mostly Arcade and a mix of other genre, but it's something I at least enjoy.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on May 21, 2013, 10:21:28 PM
And they say that Nintendo should pull a Sega?

That was EA.

I'm happy enough with my existing X360 with actual good games, mostly Arcade and a mix of other genre, but it's something I at least enjoy.

You know its bad when Vixy can't even find any merit in the system.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Jericho on May 21, 2013, 10:22:25 PM
And they say that Nintendo should pull a Sega.

Best end would be Microsoft committing suicide and Sega claiming the third pillar. Goddamn I miss console Sega so much.

I honestly don't feel as worried for Nintendo's output in the face of all this now. People are responding with full uncensored disappointment where appropriate towards Xbox One and with Nintendo steadily approaching the point where they can get the heavy hitters out in regular fashion (even in the face of their own mistakes and ineptitudes/inabilities to move fast to correct their mistakes) as well as Super Saiyan Sony there ready to make every right move from the jump, it won't take much for Microsoft to either wise up or get demoted out of the picture.

PC/Wii U/PS4/3DS master race, who's with me?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on May 21, 2013, 10:24:11 PM
I've never even had a Microsoft Console in the house.

I've always been an Everything but Xbox guy.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 21, 2013, 10:24:36 PM
That was EA.
I know that, I'm just meant it as someone in general compared to this.

PC/Wii U/PS4/3DS master race, who's with me?
I agree with the Master Race but what about the Vita?

I've never even had a Microsoft Console in the house.

I've always been an Everything but Xbox guy.
Same here.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Jericho on May 21, 2013, 10:27:05 PM
I usually include Vita when I make that claim elsewhere, but I don't know about doing that until we see the string of games pick up for it. Right now, it's stuck in that "DS just hit it's stride and is starving PSP of games" period except Vita is the new PSP and 3DS is doing the same thing DS was.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 21, 2013, 10:28:37 PM
Yeah honestly the only thing I would want a Vita for is P4 the Golden and the Disgaea games.  They need more stuff.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on May 21, 2013, 10:30:40 PM
Yeah honestly the only thing I would want a Vita for is P4 the Golden and the Disgaea games.  They need more stuff.

I'm sure I mentioned this before, but Gravity Rush is a must.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on May 21, 2013, 10:31:01 PM
Oh hey It's Jericho, long time no see indeed!
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 21, 2013, 10:31:12 PM
I'm sure I mentioned this before, but Gravity Rush is a must.
Oh yeah I forgot about that one too.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on May 21, 2013, 10:36:30 PM
What about Muramasa Rebirth (http://forum.rockmanpm.com/index.php?topic=710.msg369607#msg369607)? O^O

And hey Jericho, what's been happening lately while you were away?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 21, 2013, 10:38:07 PM
Well the one good thing about the X-Box Abortion is that it brought Jelly out of hiding.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 21, 2013, 10:38:40 PM
Well the one good thing about the X-Box Abortion is that it brought Jelly out of hiding.
Yes that is literally the only good thing about this.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on May 21, 2013, 10:39:50 PM
X-Box Abortion
this is incredibly appropriate, because if this thing bombs, it will have aborted Microsoft's console market
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on May 21, 2013, 10:40:11 PM
It brought us all together as a family, hating on something that will attract almost nothing but hate.

This is the only good thing this waste of money will ever bring us.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 21, 2013, 10:41:51 PM
this is incredibly appropriate, because if this thing bombs, it will have aborted Microsoft's console market

Haha, let's not go nuts. It won't kill Microsoft's entry into the console market. It will always have it's loyal philes, just like Nintendo & Sony. And if it really starts hurting sales, they get rid of the "fee" very quickly.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Jericho on May 21, 2013, 10:46:07 PM
Oh hey It's Jericho, long time no see indeed!

What about Muramasa Rebirth (http://forum.rockmanpm.com/index.php?topic=710.msg369607#msg369607)? O^O

And hey Jericho, what's been happening lately while you were away?

Haha, I've been alright, just fighting the monotony of everyday life one smile at a time.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on May 21, 2013, 10:47:10 PM
Haha, let's not go nuts. It won't kill Microsoft's entry into the console market. It will always have it's loyal philes, just like Nintendo & Sony. And if it really starts hurting sales, they get rid of the "fee" very quickly.
Adding to that, they should also get rid of charging people to play games online with friends every year/3 months. X(
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on May 21, 2013, 10:47:42 PM
one can only dream. because I doubt any amount of fee reduction and what not will save this thing. the "you have to install the game and cant lend it and have to be online all the time" thing will most assuredly hurt it bad.

best we can realistically hope for, is for Microsoft to learn, and not incorporate such Orwellian security measures on the XBOX TWO
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on May 21, 2013, 10:49:13 PM
Haha, let's not go nuts. It won't kill Microsoft's entry into the console market. It will always have it's loyal philes, just like Nintendo & Sony. And if it really starts hurting sales, they get rid of the "fee" very quickly.

I know absolutely nobody that would remain by Microsoft's side on this.

I mean, I don't doubt that there are people who would stay loyal, I just know more people who would rather support Sony or Nintendo instead of putting up with Microsoft's bullshit.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: VixyNyan on May 21, 2013, 10:50:56 PM
One positive thing, gamerscore will be transferable to the new system to add further upon your profile. (http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/21/xbox-one-backwards-compatible/)

Better wait for games before we can discuss "loyalty". >0<
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 21, 2013, 10:54:26 PM
One positive thing, gamerscore will be transferable to the new system to add further upon your profile. (http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/21/xbox-one-backwards-compatible/)

Better wait for games before we can discuss "loyalty". >0<

Well there will always be Halo fans. Myself among them! XD
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on May 21, 2013, 10:54:45 PM
In the end, it all boils down to this:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daQCppmuA_c[/youtube]

Of course, this by no means excuses this trash of a system. But Microsoft has been cradling this disease the whole time, now it's finally showing its ugly head.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 21, 2013, 10:55:20 PM
What's gamerscore?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on May 21, 2013, 10:56:58 PM
Well there will always be Halo fans. Myself among them! XD

Yeah, and Halo Games used to be playable on PCs.

Now I don't think you can, because they want people playing it on the console.


What's gamerscore?

Achievements have points on the 360. gamerscore is the total of all the points from the achievements that you achieve. Kind of like Trophy Levels on the PS3.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 21, 2013, 11:00:31 PM
So it has no backwards compatibility but you can transfer your achievements?  WHAT THE [tornado fang]ing HELL IS THAT GOOD FOR!?  B(
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on May 21, 2013, 11:05:52 PM
Yeah, and Halo Games used to be playable on PCs.

Now I don't think you can, because they want people playing it on the console.
Why? With the right parts (and if you have the money, granted this shitting box will cost about half of a decent gaming-spec PC), PCs can have more processing and graphical potential than a console.

So it has no backwards compatibility but you can transfer your achievements?  WHAT THE [tornado fang]ing HELL IS THAT GOOD FOR!?  B(
You just summed everything I wanted to say about that. :O
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on May 21, 2013, 11:07:56 PM
So it has no backwards compatibility but you can transfer your achievements?  WHAT THE [tornado fang]ing HELL IS THAT GOOD FOR!?  B(
Epenis
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on May 21, 2013, 11:11:01 PM
Epenis
I'd rather have my backwards compatibility back than an Eboner. :\
At least I can still wave mine to a certain douche I know.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 21, 2013, 11:16:36 PM
I'm really curious what Microsoft is going to think about the Internet Backdraft.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: The Great Gonzo on May 21, 2013, 11:19:44 PM
I'm really curious what Microsoft is going to think about the Internet Backdraft.

I don't know Microsoft very well, but chances are they might not care until the sales figures come back.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 21, 2013, 11:21:08 PM
I don't know Microsoft very well, but chances are they might not care until the sales figures come back.
I guess so.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on May 21, 2013, 11:21:21 PM
There are still loyalists who will buy it. Many, many loyalists.

I honestly don't think they give a [tornado fang].
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 21, 2013, 11:21:59 PM
There are still loyalists who will buy it. Many, many loyalists.

I honestly don't think they give a [tornado fang].
I feel sorry for those loyalists.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on May 21, 2013, 11:22:24 PM
I don't know Microsoft very well, but chances are they might not care until the sales figures come back.
If that's the case, let the reality of their stupid decisions hit them hard like a ton of Xbox ONEs.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 21, 2013, 11:23:26 PM
If that's the case, let the reality of their stupid decisions hit them hard like a ton of Xbox ONEs.
Wouldn't the original Xbox be heavier?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on May 21, 2013, 11:25:23 PM
Wouldn't the original Xbox be heavier?
Yeah but with all this stupid crap they're doing with it, I'm pretty sure people will chuck more Xbox ONEs at Mircosoft's door than Xbox Phats.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on May 21, 2013, 11:32:24 PM
http://www.vg247.com/2013/05/21/xbox-one-live-tv-available-in-us-only-at-launch-requires-separate-device/
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 21, 2013, 11:34:10 PM
Oh wow. XD
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on May 21, 2013, 11:35:27 PM
http://www.vg247.com/2013/05/21/xbox-one-live-tv-available-in-us-only-at-launch-requires-separate-device/
Good thing I don't use live TV at all with my Xbox 360...
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on May 21, 2013, 11:40:40 PM
https://twitter.com/KazHiraiCEO/status/336910138478837760 (https://twitter.com/KazHiraiCEO/status/336910138478837760)

oh kaz
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Mirby on May 21, 2013, 11:42:53 PM
hahaha

remember, they named it ONE because they predict that'll be the total lifetime sales of the system
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 21, 2013, 11:55:50 PM
http://www.vg247.com/2013/05/21/xbox-one-live-tv-available-in-us-only-at-launch-requires-separate-device/

Now wait a sex. Does separate device mean my FIOS TV box, or a whole other new costly device??

https://twitter.com/KazHiraiCEO/status/336910138478837760 (https://twitter.com/KazHiraiCEO/status/336910138478837760)

oh kaz

LoL indeed! XD
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on May 22, 2013, 12:00:46 AM
https://twitter.com/KazHiraiCEO/status/336910138478837760 (https://twitter.com/KazHiraiCEO/status/336910138478837760)

oh kaz
Successful trolling was successful. XD

Now wait a sex. Does separate device mean my FIOS TV box, or a whole other new costly device??
How'd you react if it was the latter?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 22, 2013, 12:01:42 AM
I'd want to hear how much the device is going to cost before I call it [tornado fang]ing garbage!
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on May 22, 2013, 12:09:43 AM
(http://imageshack.us/a/img96/245/1369159571614.jpg)
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on May 22, 2013, 12:41:13 AM
Apparently, used games will be full price. (http://kotaku.com/you-will-be-able-to-trade-xbox-one-games-online-micros-509140825)

Quote
Speaking to us at the big event in Redmond today, Microsoft corporate vice president Phil Harrison clarified a couple of details about the system's used game policy and explained that there will be a solution for people who want to trade games with their friends.

Here's how the system works: when you buy an Xbox One game, you'll get a unique code that you enter when you install that game. You'll have to connect to the Internet in order to authorize that code, and the code can only be used once. Once you use it, that game will then be linked to your Xbox Live account. "It sits on your harddrive and you have permission to play that game as long as you’d like," Harrison said.

But what if you want to bring a game disc to a friend's house and play there? You'll have to pay a fee—and not just some sort of activation fee, but the actual price of that game—in order to use a game's code on a friend's account. Think of it like a new game, Harrison says.

"The bits that are on that disc, you can give it to your friend and they can install it on an Xbox One," he said. "They would then have to purchase the right to play that game through Xbox Live."

"They would be paying the same price we paid, or less?" we asked.

"Let’s assume it’s a new game, so the answer is yes, it will be the same price," Harrison said.

 8D
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on May 22, 2013, 12:49:38 AM
So... its an Online Pass.

Okay even EA got rid of those, Microsoft.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on May 22, 2013, 01:04:06 AM
Quote
Speaking to us at the big event in Redmond today, Microsoft corporate vice president Phil Harrison clarified a couple of details about the system's used game policy and explained that there will be a solution for people who want to trade games with their friends.

Here's how the system works: when you buy an Xbox One game, you'll get a unique code that you enter when you install that game. You'll have to connect to the Internet in order to authorize that code, and the code can only be used once. Once you use it, that game will then be linked to your Xbox Live account. "It sits on your harddrive and you have permission to play that game as long as you’d like," Harrison said.

But what if you want to bring a game disc to a friend's house and play there? You'll have to pay a fee—and not just some sort of activation fee, but the actual price of that game—in order to use a game's code on a friend's account. Think of it like a new game, Harrison says.

"The bits that are on that disc, you can give it to your friend and they can install it on an Xbox One," he said. "They would then have to purchase the right to play that game through Xbox Live."

"They would be paying the same price we paid, or less?" we asked.

"Let’s assume it’s a new game, so the answer is yes, it will be the same price," Harrison said.

(http://i.imgur.com/oy4Bqv4.png)
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Mirby on May 22, 2013, 01:09:06 AM
in trying to kill used games sales, they ended up killing themselves

good game microsoft

your greed was your own undoing.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on May 22, 2013, 01:14:11 AM
Oh this is just goofy.

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y39/galapagosturtle/alt/1369168804535_zps1b2be5f6.png)
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Mirby on May 22, 2013, 01:17:01 AM
For once, that face is actually quite relevant.

Because really it's just a moment of

:\
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on May 22, 2013, 01:19:28 AM
What could possibly be the point of blocking a live stream?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Mirby on May 22, 2013, 01:20:37 AM
potentially bad press?

which is hilarious, because any bad press they receive for that is their own doing.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on May 22, 2013, 01:20:46 AM
It's for your own good.

Youtube is sparing you the waste of your time.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on May 22, 2013, 01:21:07 AM
What could be the point of blocking a video from a company such as Rev3?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 22, 2013, 01:21:47 AM
The third party companies are embarrassed?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on May 22, 2013, 01:23:49 AM
(http://imageshack.us/a/img6/1360/28807760.png)

oh lawl
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on May 22, 2013, 01:23:49 AM
It's for your own good.

Youtube is sparing you the waste of your time.
I watched it on my Xbox's LIVE Event Player. What a waste... :\
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on May 22, 2013, 01:24:06 AM
The third party companies are embarrassed?

Maybe?

The Livestream compressed into 5 minutes is still up, though.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on May 22, 2013, 01:27:41 AM
Maybe?

The Livestream compressed into 5 minutes is still up, though.

five minutes of TV AND DOGS IN COD
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: VixyNyan on May 22, 2013, 01:30:19 AM
(http://imageshack.us/a/img6/1360/28807760.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/1ohdDFM.jpg)

 XD
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on May 22, 2013, 01:31:25 AM
five minutes of TV AND DOGS IN COD

(http://i.imgur.com/CyW2PCY.gif)
This dog is way better.

Also, did you see the details of that guy's ARM HAIRS? 8D
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: VixyNyan on May 22, 2013, 01:32:51 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/bXKSmTA.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/bXKSmTA.jpg)

Oops... 8D
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on May 22, 2013, 01:36:21 AM
meanwhile...

(http://imageshack.us/a/img811/5973/1369159721217.jpg)

Quote
>Literally only Call of Duty and sports
They're not making a game console, they're making a containment machine.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on May 22, 2013, 01:40:19 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/bXKSmTA.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/bXKSmTA.jpg)

Oops... 8D

Xbox One game

I'm crying here XD
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Kieran on May 22, 2013, 01:50:23 AM
I'd want to hear how much the device is going to cost before I call it [tornado fang]ing garbage!

From what I read, it means you're going to need a whole new costly set-top box designed specifically to interface with the XBO, so it looks like even the fancy TV [parasitic bomb] they showed off today isn't going to work.  8D
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Hypershell on May 22, 2013, 01:53:15 AM
Dude, I never even owned a damn X-Box, and I can't wrap my head around what's happening...

The only thing close to "logic" that I can apply to their whole internet-authorization thing is that they really WANT to be doing a download-only system, but knowing that everyone hates it, figured they had to disguise it somehow.  I mean, it really is all of the limitations of being download-only without any of the benefits.

Well, here's to a new and exciting way to watch sports on TV. o~O

Posted on: May 21, 2013, 06:51:52 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/bXKSmTA.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/bXKSmTA.jpg)

Oops... 8D
Thanks.  That justified the last six pages for me. >w<
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on May 22, 2013, 01:57:13 AM
Accurate reaction to the XBOX NONE

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPjUO2YSjn0[/youtube]
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on May 22, 2013, 02:16:49 AM
(http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc288/Superdee100/original-2_zpsaec82882.gif)
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on May 22, 2013, 02:22:56 AM
(http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc288/Superdee100/original-2_zpsaec82882.gif)
Oh, I know this! Don't take the cupcake with the blue frosting! 8D

(http://i.imgur.com/bXKSmTA.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/bXKSmTA.jpg)

Oops... 8D
Bayonetta 2 is the biggest reason for me to get a Wii U. :3
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: The Great Gonzo on May 22, 2013, 02:30:06 AM
My God, it just keeps getting worse.

What's next--you can only play games at a certain time of day?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on May 22, 2013, 02:35:27 AM
Well no, but although "online all the time" has been confirmed as not necessary, you DO still have to connect to the internet once per day in order to play games.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 22, 2013, 02:49:03 AM
From what I read, it means you're going to need a whole new costly set-top box designed specifically to interface with the XBO, so it looks like even the fancy TV [parasitic bomb] they showed off today isn't going to work.  8D

Oh good. I believe the proper term is "rockbottom and digging!"
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 22, 2013, 02:50:31 AM
Oh good. I believe the proper term is "rockbottom and digging!"
Straight into the center of th earth?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Mirby on May 22, 2013, 02:53:53 AM
Straight into the center of th earth?
Nah, they've passed that by now.

I know they really wanted to get the attention of the Japanese market, but this surely isn't a way to do that.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on May 22, 2013, 02:54:31 AM
Oh good. I believe the proper term is "rockbottom and digging!"

Straight into the center of th earth?
I'm willing to bet they'll hit bedrock pretty damn quick.
And then they'll fall into outer space on the way down.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 22, 2013, 02:55:36 AM
Nah, they've passed that by now.

I know they really wanted to get the attention of the Japanese market, but this surely isn't a way to do that.
How did they survive the molten core?

And how the [tornado fang] would they think this would attract the Japanese Market, just any of that?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Mirby on May 22, 2013, 02:56:14 AM
How did they survive the molten core?

And how the [tornado fang] would they think this would attract the Japanese Market, just any of that?
By drilling completely through the Earth and winding up in Japan.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on May 22, 2013, 03:01:55 AM
By drilling completely through the Earth and winding up in Japan.
But if you drill straight down, wouldn't you end up in China instead? XD

How did they survive the molten core?
My hypothesis suggest that they will burrow into the Earth the Xbox ONE, which unbeknownst to us, is made from a space-age metal made from reptilian humanoids that can withstand the heat of the Earth's core.

Although when they do go through the core, the Earth would probably explode. So we go with them... :O
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on May 22, 2013, 03:29:47 AM
(http://imageshack.us/a/img441/3666/1369178381128.jpg)

lol
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: VixyNyan on May 22, 2013, 04:38:58 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbWgUO-Rqcw[/youtube]

Laughing so much right now! XD
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on May 22, 2013, 04:51:42 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbWgUO-Rqcw[/youtube]

Laughing so much right now! XD

I lost it at "xbox is about to become the next watercooler"
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 22, 2013, 04:52:45 AM
I lost it at "xbox is about to become the next watercooler"
Me too. XD
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on May 22, 2013, 04:58:12 AM
Xbox, Go home.

You're drunk.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 22, 2013, 05:23:09 AM
That was priceless!
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on May 22, 2013, 06:14:40 AM
Xbox One Reveal: The Abridged Presentation. XD
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: VirusChris on May 22, 2013, 06:46:14 AM
God I love you guys, your comments were an absolute blast to read and the videos and pictures just cracked a smile on my face! XD

That's a better birthday to me than the Xbox ONE being announced... I mean I like Xbox 360 very much despite some of the difficulties but the ONE just kills it for me.

I know I will not be getting this game and I'm usually the guy who manages to own most major game consoles, PS4 and Wii U will be my buddies this next gen only.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on May 22, 2013, 06:58:06 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/tgNBGSM.jpg)
It's only a matter of time until someone changes the Xbox Phat to Xbox One in this picture. And how drunk is Xbox One, you might ask...?

(http://i.imgur.com/Lg27BZg.gif)
Something like this.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: VixyNyan on May 23, 2013, 02:40:17 AM
(http://i.minus.com/iBzvb2JSpQNRM.gif)
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Fxeni on May 23, 2013, 02:45:41 AM
Niiice.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: The Great Gonzo on May 23, 2013, 04:05:08 AM
Some indie and non-indie devs' reactions (http://www.destructoid.com/devs-express-disappointment-with-xbox-one-over-twitter-254326.phtml) to the inability of indie devs to self-publish on the XBOTCHED. (Sorry if it was mentioned before and I forgot)
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on May 23, 2013, 04:57:46 AM
Why is this colossal [tornado fang]ing piece of [parasitic bomb] of a gaming hardware still amuses me? XD

(http://i.minus.com/iBzvb2JSpQNRM.gif)
I lost it when I saw this at another forum. >U<
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on May 23, 2013, 08:51:29 AM
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/124268-Microsoft-Exec-If-Youre-Backwards-Compatible-Youre-Really-Backwards

Smooth, Microsoft. Real smooth.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Mirby on May 23, 2013, 08:56:05 AM
Backwards is exactly the direction people will be walking in relation to the Xbox One at this rate.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: VirusChris on May 23, 2013, 11:36:30 AM
I mean I buy a new sysem to play the new games for it, but if something happens to my old system or I put it away in the attic and don't go back for it I wouldn't mind playing my old games on the new system from time to time.

I didn't want an Xbox One at all when they unveiled it, but now I REALLY don't want an Xbox One. Good day to you Microsoft!

I don't care HOW good the games are on your system, the system features kill it for me.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Reaperoid on May 23, 2013, 12:08:13 PM
Xbox One: 359 reasons not to buy it.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 23, 2013, 12:32:05 PM
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/124268-Microsoft-Exec-If-Youre-Backwards-Compatible-Youre-Really-Backwards

Smooth, Microsoft. Real smooth.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *inhale* HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on May 23, 2013, 07:48:28 PM
Quote from:  Microsoft Exec: "If You're Backwards Compatible, You're Really Backwards" @ The Escapist
According to him, only five percent of customers play previous-generation games on new gaming systems.

(http://i.imgur.com/KmTqr.png)

-EDIT-
The Xbox One:
(http://i.imgur.com/n1azoBd.jpg)

In actuality:
(http://i.imgur.com/ALzpmre.jpg)

Seems about right.

-EDIT 2-
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ekOtn7L1N0&hd=1[/youtube]
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Mr. Haxwell on May 23, 2013, 08:28:26 PM
You know its bad when Vixy can't even find any merit in the system.

Somehow that made me lmao.

Well I know where this [parasitic bomb]'s going to appear one day...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWuDhJTMHUs[/youtube]
Believe me, its destined to appear there one day.

Hey James. We got a present for ya. >0<

But then again read this [parasitic bomb] (http://kotaku.com/5974112/youtube-shuts-down-popular-angry-video-game-nerd-channel)
They think they're so smart... NOT!

(http://i.minus.com/iBzvb2JSpQNRM.gif)

Oh yeah, this... >0<

-EDIT 2-
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ekOtn7L1N0&hd=1[/youtube]

aand, THIS! >0<
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on May 24, 2013, 07:35:03 AM
Hey, all this Xbox TV business reminds me of something...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diTpeYoqAhc[/youtube]

Yeah...
http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/21/4352710/live-tv-on-the-xbox-one-microsoft-didnt-learn-from-google-tv

Posted on: May 23, 2013, 04:54:41 PM
It just gets better and better!

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/22/xbox-one-incompatible-with-current-gaming-headsets
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 24, 2013, 07:42:08 AM
Wow, just wow.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on May 24, 2013, 07:43:53 AM
They won't stop until the hole they've dug themselves into collapses on top of them.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 24, 2013, 08:14:52 AM
Cause that hole obviously won't be full of money.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on May 24, 2013, 08:18:41 AM
Yeah, they squandered what they had with the 360.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Nexus on May 25, 2013, 01:27:36 AM
So that whole used games fee problem? Apparently they'll try to have specific retailers outfitted with 'Azure' systems that can cross-reference your Live account when you sell a game to them, so they remove the game from your system to avoid keeping it on your system. Okay. And apparently they'll force retailers to only allow a 10% discount on pre-owned Xbone games. The [tornado fang].

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/124323-Update-Xbox-One-To-Take-Cut-With-Every-Pre-Owned-Sale (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/124323-Update-Xbox-One-To-Take-Cut-With-Every-Pre-Owned-Sale)

[spoiler]Was going to say that the retailers only get a 10% cut but apparently that was a misreport on their end at first.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 25, 2013, 03:34:13 AM
Oh god I just want to see how much worse it gets! XD

Posted on: May 24, 2013, 03:45:19 PM
http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/1Is9YJ/www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-05-24-microsoft-applies-for-patent-on-tv-achievements

I just don't know how these guys think anymore. XD
Title: Running "screw_you_microsoft.exe"
Post by: ViperAcidZX on May 25, 2013, 04:12:02 AM
So now I can get stupid bragging rights awards to show off that I have sat through terrible shows and animes like Johnny Test and Queen's Blade?

[tornado fang] no. I think sitting through one season of these drecks is a monumental achievement all on thier own, thank you very much. B(

Wii U, here I (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Di_BdTnm2c8&t=2m40s)... 8D
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Fxeni on May 25, 2013, 04:14:15 AM
Oh god I just want to see how much worse it gets! XD

Posted on: May 24, 2013, 03:45:19 PM
http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/1Is9YJ/www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-05-24-microsoft-applies-for-patent-on-tv-achievements

I just don't know how these guys think anymore. XD
(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/5184/tvachievement.jpg)
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on May 25, 2013, 04:24:11 AM
(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/5184/tvachievement.jpg)

There better be a Shark Repellent achievment too.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Mirby on May 25, 2013, 08:12:31 AM
(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/5184/tvachievement.jpg)
That's so unrealistic.

That achievement would be worth AT LEAST 15G
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on May 25, 2013, 10:33:31 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-yaverbaum/so-long-sony-why-the-crit_b_3333781.html


"Microsoft has nothing to prove when it comes to making gamers happy."


Actually, they do.

Consider the following:

the Xbox was a GAMING console.

the Xbox 360, despite all the features that got added in along the way, was a GAMING console.

And Sony's PS4, is going to be a GAMING Console.

Xbox has to compete with it, and all the TV and sports and Halo TV shows in the world will not win over the gaming market, (particularly the core gamers of the market) who are tuning in to Microsoft's Xbox One to see GAMES. not TV, they can watch that already. they want GAMES. they want a gaming machine that will blow them away with graphics, speed and power, and any other bonus features are just icing on the cake.

However, MS has made all the WRONG decisions, and included all the WORST aspects of these features.

complex archaic DRM- you have to install your game to the hard drive, rendering the disc useless to star with when you can go full digital instead like Steam. (and given they are pushing their online, it's not impossible). To play used games, you have to pay a full game price fee. if you want to play your game on another console? you have to pay a fee. This system KILLS the tradition of game lending among friends and family, not to mention the used games market that many gamers use to get games cheaper.

orwellian Kinect surveillance. The Kinect MUST be connected for the system to work. And it will be active all the time. Even when the system is turned off.

TV SPORTS TV SPORTS- have I mentioned already, how nobody cares about this aside from the casual gaming market, who sees this as the most amazing thing? the non-gaming people will not buy this, because they already have ways of watching TV and sports and blu-ray, and don't need an "all in one" system. the hardcore market, aside from a select few, will skip this, because of the hoops and loops and un-friendly DRM you have to jump through to play games, and not be able to share a disc with your friend.

a select few of both of those groups, and even the casuals, will skip this because of the orwellian big brother kinect.

so who exactly is the target audience? casual gaming rich people who can waste money on an "all in one" that replaces things they already have?

the PS4 and Wii-U will be the winners of this generation simply because of one reason:

they are actually concentrating on making a system dedicated to playing GAMES, for GAMERS. Not watching TV and spying on your life. Also, since neither of them have all the extra bullshit added to them, they will both likely be cheaper than the One. (the Wii most assuredly is)

if Microsoft wants to make an all in one, go ahead, but don't mask it as a gaming console.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: The Great Gonzo on May 25, 2013, 01:20:12 PM
I hope that sales of the XBOTCHED won't catch up to those of the WiiU or PS4 until all this bullshit is excised. Even near-universally reviled flops like the Jaguar had to have gotten better reveals than this (or if they didn't, they are now not that bad in retrospect).
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 25, 2013, 04:27:13 PM
Man these guys are delusional, oh well just wait until profits in the console devision are at an all time low, especially internationally.  I really wonder how much this thing will cost, it has to be really expensive will all that TV crap the Xbone is putting in.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on May 25, 2013, 04:51:38 PM
I can tell that it won't be worth $300-400 for an over-glorified DRM-botched TV box. It shames me high-profile developers like Hideo Kojima and Ken Levine were even in the damn intro of Xbitch One's reveal.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Reaperoid on May 25, 2013, 05:15:06 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/pH8pdvK.png)
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on May 25, 2013, 07:58:32 PM
Gee, it is almost as if this were a terrible marketing decision...
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Pyro on May 25, 2013, 08:55:26 PM
http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/21/4352710/live-tv-on-the-xbox-one-microsoft-didnt-learn-from-google-tv

Quote
"For the first time, you and your TV will have a relationship."

That should make the OTHER kind of technophiles happy.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on May 25, 2013, 09:01:04 PM
What about those of us who have no TVs?  What will we do?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 25, 2013, 09:05:41 PM
What about those of us who have no TVs?  What will we do?
You wouldn't play video games on console if you don't have one.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on May 25, 2013, 09:09:04 PM
Hasn't stopped me this weekend.  You should see the crazy temporary Wii setup.  Wii plugged into a converter cable that's plugged into a laptop, with the laptop plugged into a monitor, so we're playing the Wii on two screens.  It's a huge tangled daisy chain of cords.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on May 25, 2013, 09:18:02 PM
You wouldn't play video games on console if you don't have one.

The Wii U Car trip kind of shoots that down.

Though you can't do that to play Wii games, it'll at least make more sense with Virtual Console games.

But in all other cases, yes, you can't really play consoles without some sort of screen or crazy workaround.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Reaperoid on May 26, 2013, 08:36:01 AM
http://www.oxm.co.uk/54748/xbox-one-specs-are-boosted-by-the-equivalent-of-three-xbox-ones-in-the-cloud/

Keep in mind the previously mentioned fact that you only need to connect once a day. But, realise that if you play a game that supports Microsoft's Azure cloud processing, you will need a constant connection to play.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Kieran on May 26, 2013, 03:44:02 PM
Oh, oh, is this going to be like that EA thing where they said SimCity had a bunch of server-side processing going on, and it turned out to just be a lie to cover up their stupid DRM scheme?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Align on May 26, 2013, 07:45:35 PM
http://playeressence.com/amazon-uk-wii-u-sales-rank-jumps-by-875-following-microsofts-xbox-one-reveal/
(http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/hetmk73/imgs/4/a/4a2e7de6.gif)
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Mirby on May 26, 2013, 07:47:51 PM
At least Sony/Mario tries.

MS/Wario and EA/Peach just fall off instantly XD
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Mr. Haxwell on May 26, 2013, 07:48:46 PM
(http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/hetmk73/imgs/4/a/4a2e7de6.gif)

LOL
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on May 26, 2013, 08:36:38 PM
http://playeressence.com/amazon-uk-wii-u-sales-rank-jumps-by-875-following-microsofts-xbox-one-reveal/
(http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/hetmk73/imgs/4/a/4a2e7de6.gif)
This pic is giving me déjà vu. XD
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on May 26, 2013, 09:49:40 PM
I was waiting for this to happen. XD
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Fxeni on May 26, 2013, 10:14:04 PM
That gif's great.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Reaperoid on May 27, 2013, 12:54:00 AM
(http://i.minus.com/iVTT7iHZ0KMgK.gif)
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Hypershell on May 27, 2013, 05:56:04 AM
http://www.oxm.co.uk/54748/xbox-one-specs-are-boosted-by-the-equivalent-of-three-xbox-ones-in-the-cloud/

Keep in mind the previously mentioned fact that you only need to connect once a day. But, realise that if you play a game that supports Microsoft's Azure cloud processing, you will need a constant connection to play.
Microsoft needs to get their message straight.  As a "cloud gaming box", they MIGHT actually be able to sell the damn thing.  It's the only way they'll come close to justifying an "always online" architecture, which is what the frikkin' box is whether it tolerates an up-to-one-day break or not.  For as much as an annoying as the momentary connection hickup is, there are a wealth of other concerns that "it's okay because you only have to check in once daily" simply does not address.


Frankly, at this point, embracing the always-online thing might be the better way to go for them, IF they can show us why definitively cloud gaming is producing a better experience than the other consoles.  But...be honest, even if their theoretical spec sheet smokes the PS4's, what are the odds that an "XBone" game will make that difference clearly apparent to the player?  Very little, I'd imagine.  "Same [parasitic bomb] with less jaggies" isn't going to cut it.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Reaperoid on May 27, 2013, 06:26:04 AM
As it is, you can't even play games without a connection.
Retailers here have started taking pre-orders for the Xbox One at around $900 AUD, which you'd think if you had that much money you'd also have a decent internet connection, so maybe it's a no-brainer. But I will say, not every locale can support such extensive cloud operation like what Microsoft is trying to force, especially here.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 27, 2013, 06:29:27 AM
Honestly with that cloud stuff I wouldn't be surprised if the thing is very glitchy very early on and still have the Red Rings of Death.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on May 27, 2013, 06:35:12 AM
Honestly with that cloud stuff I wouldn't be surprised if the thing is very glitchy very early on and still have the Red Rings of Death.

Every console is pretty bad to start with.

The Wii U was slow to load, Nintendoland constantly crashed, the eShop was lacking in everything.

The Xbox 360 had high Failure rates (From what I hear.)

Yeah, most consoles nowadays are pretty bad to start.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on May 27, 2013, 06:37:25 AM
Is the Wii U even worth it in this period of time?

It seems like the really stellar games haven't even come out yet.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on May 27, 2013, 06:39:03 AM
Its plenty good as a Virtual Console and Netflix box.

It'll pick up within two months.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on May 27, 2013, 07:21:07 AM
(http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc288/Superdee100/mibfail.gif)
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on May 27, 2013, 07:30:39 AM
THE RIDE NEVER ENDS

http://www.joystiq.com/2013/05/26/report-xbox-one-will-be-region-locked/
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 27, 2013, 07:31:20 AM
Well that's to be expected anyway. :\
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on May 27, 2013, 07:32:38 AM
Well that's to be expected anyway. :\

From Nintendo maybe, but I thought the 360 was strange with Region Locking.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on May 27, 2013, 08:03:20 AM
The Xbox 360 had high Failure rates (From what I hear.)
From my experience that is true with the old Xbox 360 models since my older brother's 360 died a few years ago; the newer Xbox 360 S models that people are getting nowadays are much less to likely have system failures than the older models (plus you can get them with 250GB hard drives without Kinect instead the 4GB hard drives bundled with Kinect).

From Nintendo maybe, but I thought the 360 was strange with Region Locking.
Vixy did say somewhere that 360s are region-free systems but most Japanese developers are pricks and region-lock the games themselves.

-EDIT-
Yup, the recent article above even mentioned devs can choose region-locking. Therefore, the majority of Japanese Xbox 360 developers are selfish pricks.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on May 27, 2013, 09:59:51 AM
That's right, Microsoft.  Empty the entire clip into your foot.  It's the only way to be sure.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on May 27, 2013, 10:56:44 AM
I still have the "Arcade" 360 that came with a Sega tennis game and a bonus disc with arcade games. Never had any trouble.

Flash drive's been real good for save game data. That said, the lack of integrated wifi really fucks over that ONE indie game. And I have to run a cable down a flight to hook it up to a router.

I'll get the 360 slim eventually.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Mirby on May 27, 2013, 09:12:01 PM
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/970306_465280730227469_1065735502_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on May 27, 2013, 09:13:58 PM
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/970306_465280730227469_1065735502_n.jpg)

Man I never liked how the PSOne looked compared to the classic PS1.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Mirby on May 27, 2013, 09:33:12 PM
Both were infinitely more visually appealing than the Xbox One though.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on May 27, 2013, 09:34:19 PM
That is true.

But anything is more visually appealing than an Xbox One.

Except maybe a CD-I.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 27, 2013, 10:36:04 PM
Meh, I have no problem with either the name or the look of the X-Box Uno.

It's everything else.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 27, 2013, 10:48:41 PM
I'm fine with the look, but it looks more like a blue ray player rather than a game console though the controller hasn't changed much other than what looks like a weird bump on top.  The name however sounds stupid.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on May 27, 2013, 10:58:25 PM
Most people have said it looks like a Betamax player.

The controller looks fine, though I hate how Microsoft's buttons are flipped compared to the Nintendo layout.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Hypershell on May 27, 2013, 11:02:09 PM
Is the Wii U even worth it in this period of time?

It seems like the really stellar games haven't even come out yet.
Well, it's not uncommon for people to buy a platform as an investment in its future.  I mean, pretty much everyone who got a 3DS when it launched was doing that.

I'd say with the WiiU the problem is less the sum total of what is there and more the fact that outside of Monster Hunter it was basically all there since launch, hence "momentum" bit the system in its ass.  After all is said and done, Super Mario Bros. is still "the" definitive WiiU game (and make no mistake, it's a hell of a lot better than the unfortunately timed 3DS title).  But if that's not enough, then by all means, keep waiting.  We're rapidly closing on E3 and its accompanying Nintendo Directs; more is on the way.



Logic errors are fun, let's have a few.

First, let's fix the incomplete information by giving the same incomplete information. (http://www.destructoid.com/microsoft-xbox-one-reports-inaccurate-and-incomplete--254534.phtml)  I guess Microsoft figures that if they use the same line often enough, someone might eventually buy it.  ::)

Second, Sony of course taught us that companies lie about their systems, so I guess it stands to reason that Microsoft might lie about the cloud (http://www.destructoid.com/blow-microsoft-s-lying-about-xbox-one-cloud-power-254630.phtml).  Of course, we already KNOW that they are lying if they're continuing to allege that the cloud opens up infinite possibilities even though games are supposed to work without it for up to a day at a time.  So...yeah.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on May 28, 2013, 12:44:43 AM
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/970306_465280730227469_1065735502_n.jpg)

I've never had one. My original PSX still works. I even modded it so I could play imports. I imported Rockman 3 Complete Works for it.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: VixyNyan on May 28, 2013, 03:41:22 AM
That is true.

But anything is more visually appealing than an Xbox One.

Except maybe a CD-I.

Hey now wait a minute.

CD-i games are totally playable, because I says so. (http://www.twitch.tv/vixynyan/videos)
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Reaperoid on May 28, 2013, 04:10:10 AM
Xbox One: Totally Unplayable "because I says so" :P
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on May 28, 2013, 04:14:44 AM
Hey now wait a minute.

CD-i games are totally playable, because I says so. (http://www.twitch.tv/vixynyan/videos)

You know I meant the console's outward appearance, right?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: VixyNyan on May 28, 2013, 04:28:08 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/ZR1eqR5.jpg)

It's so pretty~ *o*

And it's region-free and plays games copied on CD-R discs without any problems~ :3
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 28, 2013, 04:29:29 AM
That controller is a spoon. :\
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on May 28, 2013, 04:30:51 AM
Or a dippy looking remote control.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: VixyNyan on May 28, 2013, 04:30:56 AM
And it can totally play Zelda and Mario games just fine. :3
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 28, 2013, 04:34:43 AM
So that's what it looks like! Neat! XD
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on May 28, 2013, 04:37:13 AM
And it can totally play Zelda and Mario games just fine. :3

I don't consider non-nintendo made Zelda and Mario games as real Mario and Zelda games.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 28, 2013, 04:38:29 AM
So that's what it looks like! Neat! XD
Wait till you see a 3DO.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on May 28, 2013, 05:02:21 AM
There is just something to be said about the Atari Jaguar's giant button-laden controller.  I've never actually gotten to play one, but I would like to.  There's got to be some sort of strange magic to playing with what amounts to being a small keyboard.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on May 28, 2013, 09:51:09 AM
I don't consider non-nintendo made Zelda and Mario games as real Mario and Zelda games.

Soooo The Metroid Prime games..?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on May 28, 2013, 09:52:00 AM
Soooo The Metroid Prime games..?

Games made with Nintendo properties that are not on Nintendo Consoles.

So... the Mario Edutainment games and the CDI titles.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Mr. Haxwell on May 29, 2013, 07:09:08 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKlsf50y0m4[/youtube]

Seemed appropriate enough to be posted here.

Anyway, I still lol'd at this [parasitic bomb]. >0<
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on June 03, 2013, 05:28:48 PM
http://www.destructoid.com/ms-says-gamers-will-buy-everything-including-xbox-one-254678.phtml

They are just calling us sheep now.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 03, 2013, 05:39:10 PM
I think we need that giant toilet now.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Mr. Haxwell on June 03, 2013, 05:50:23 PM
I think we need that giant toilet now.

Yes, so that I can puke every ounce of stomach acid, I have left, down it.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 03, 2013, 05:52:12 PM
Yes, so that I can puke every ounce of stomach acid, I have left, down it.
Nah more so to flush Mircosoft's console reputation down the drain.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Mr. Haxwell on June 03, 2013, 06:10:44 PM
Nah more so to flush Mircosoft's console reputation down the drain.

Oh, I thought you meant the console was the toilet, my bad. :P
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 03, 2013, 06:12:05 PM
Nah I meant the toilet that the failed consoles of gaming fell into, like the 3DO and CDi.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on June 03, 2013, 06:29:31 PM
The sad thing is that there will be a large segment of the population who will buy this thing.  While the sales may be low, I doubt that they'll be shockingly low.  There are sheep among us, unfortunately.

However, if we stick to our guns, there will be a larger segment who will not buy the system.  That segment is the segment that Microsoft would want to buy the system--the gamers.  But, if only the general non-gaming public buy it, it may flop.

Here's hoping.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 03, 2013, 06:31:37 PM
Yeah same here, I know there are people who will buy this piece of [parasitic bomb] but I really hope something happens.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on June 03, 2013, 06:36:37 PM
As I stated before, there are a shitload of Microsoft loyalists who will buy this thing. They'll ignore the huge list of dumb features and [parasitic bomb] games just to have the next Xbox system.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Protoman Blues on June 03, 2013, 07:04:22 PM
http://www.destructoid.com/ms-says-gamers-will-buy-everything-including-xbox-one-254678.phtml

They are just calling us sheep now.

If you consider the fact that people continued to support the 360 when it's failure rate was over 50%, he's not exactly wrong.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 03, 2013, 07:04:51 PM
If you consider the fact that people continued to support the 360 when it's failure rate was over 50%, he's not exactly wrong.
Yeah I guess you got a pont there. :\
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on June 03, 2013, 07:10:31 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMYso30L9zI
[/youtube]

If you consider the fact that people continued to support the 360 when it's failure rate was over 50%, he's not exactly wrong.

Yeah, unfortunately he isn't wrong.

shitload of Microsoft loyalists
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Ahrzayl on June 03, 2013, 07:42:22 PM
What? No, I'm totally getting this. Didn't you guys see all the awesome features it has? And omg, EA's even partnered with them?! WIN! Ohhh, man and that awesome controller. It looks almost exactly like the first one! Think it's great too that...

EXTREME SARCASM -explodes-
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on June 03, 2013, 08:15:53 PM
I wonder how long it will take for someone to hack that thing...

I'm betting within the same month of its release.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Ahrzayl on June 03, 2013, 09:51:44 PM
I'm giving it two weeks. I know some lads waiting to get their mits on that hardware.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Mirby on June 03, 2013, 10:03:38 PM
Vita was cracked after what, five weeks?

I wanna see how fast the OS on this thing is ripped to shreds.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on June 03, 2013, 10:29:48 PM
As a developer I try to keep an open mind and not jump to conclusions on platforms until I have a lot more info, or some hands on time. As an example, Windows8 sounded like the worst thing ever, but I actually ended up liking it more than 7 almost.

Microsoft is making it incredibly hard to not get worried though. This consistent bad attitude to consumers, and developers alike, is starting to get frustrating and making me wonder about the true viability in this next console. I know we don't have all the details yet, so I could be off base in my worries, and I accept any "I told you so" after the fact.

As a gamer this console seems to be lacking many things I want, and adding in many things I don't care about. I don't think I need beat a dead horse but I'll elaborate my points of concern which are: used games, no backwards compatibility, cloud servers, and discouraging indie developers.

The used games thing for me is not much of a deal breaker, because I prefer to buy all my games new to support the companies who make them. I do miss out on other games as a result of the higher price though, and some people just don't have the luxury to buy all new, or prefer to get more used games at a lower price, than a few new games at a higher price. I personally have only purchased about 4 used games in my entire life as a gamer. Two of which (EarthBound and Chrono Trigger) were out of print and sold out at the time. To which I paid $60. I regret nothing, and would do it again with pleasure. While digital titles makes this availability thing less of an issue, more issues arise as a result and combine to paint a bleak picture...

No backwards compatibility is something I am growing increasingly concerned about as hardware begins to fail more often within a console lifetime these days, which basically is a huge gamble that you will be able to play older games at all 10 years later. Games, as art, don't deserve to have a finite time period where you can enjoy it. Not allowing backwards compatibility is really hurting long term exposure for some developers as well, and just punishing gamers who happen to like older games or may not have discovered them until later. This same issue also punishes new gamers who never had the opportunity to play the older titles. How many of us have discovered an NES, SNES, or Genesis game 10, 15, 20 years later, and ended up really liking it? I've seen games on Nintendo's Virtual console that I never played before. I then also purchased, and liked them. And while, the elephant in the room, emulation is making this preservation easier for gamers, how many PS2 emulators do you see around after the system released 13 years ago? Let alone ones that work with wide support on games and little issues? It is getting too hard and time consuming to make them now. For the real kicker, we roll into the next point.

Cloud computing and the online requirements, big or small, are ruining the longevity of games. For an MMO title it is a huge issue that if the company goes down, or the cost of maintenance outshines the income of the game, that the servers get shut down and the game is effectively lost. There are some good legitimate reasons for this to happen, and I can't effectively blame the developers when it just doesn't work out right. But now we're adding in online requirements to games that don't need it. What happens when EA decides SimCity isn't pulling in the money anymore? Just like their other games, they will eventually shut down the servers. If you're a legitimate paying customer, who isn't hacking their game, you are screwed. The game no longer operates. What if EA was not lying, and the online service did actually perform needed calculations to run the game? Then you wouldn't even be able to hack it out. It would be gone forever, unless EA released the server software for others to support independently. We know this is NOT going to happen.

Microsoft is now putting the power of always online DRM in the hands of the console developer, and giving developers a platform to explicitly add in some cloud server calculations which could be for the sole purpose of total product domination. When their servers go down, or the next Xbox is shipped and One's service is cut off, your game stops working FOREVER. This is what bugs me the most. We could see some games that have an availability for roughly 6 years then be unplayable forever after that.

Microsoft is also very much against indie developers. Their system for dealing with indies has never been the best, and they're not only keeping that stance but making it even worse. I am not willing to sell out and jump on with a publisher just to get a shot at being on this console. Likewise since they are restructuring their online marketplace allegedly, making it even harder to find indie games, it is hard to imagine any reason I have to approach Microsoft with a game for their console as opposed to just hitting up Sony and Nintendo who are making great strides for all developers these days.

That's my current take on the matter. I hope they turn things around, but at this rate I'll find it very hard to support them as a gamer or developer. I have no qualms about missing Xbox exclusives and not buying this system. Which is a shame because I really liked my 360, and felt it was a good console with some genuine advantages to it.

Also for the record, their first press conference doesn't bug me. They needed to get the extra stuff out of the way anyway, and I really believe they are saving most of the game talk for E3.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on June 03, 2013, 10:36:30 PM
I heard that Microsoft will be doing similar things with their next Windows release.  If that's the case, people would be migrating to Mac and Linux in droves, or simply not upgrading, ever.

At least, that's what I like to think.  I've seen the dark side of the average computer user.  They're attracted to new, shiny things like moths to a porch light.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Mirby on June 03, 2013, 11:09:35 PM
Devs were already talking about abandoning Windows before Windows 8 even came out because of how closed it seemed to be. So that doesn't surprise me at all, Quickie.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on June 04, 2013, 01:52:45 AM
Microsoft is also very much against indie developers. Their system for dealing with indies has never been the best, and they're not only keeping that stance but making it even worse. I am not willing to sell out and jump on with a publisher just to get a shot at being on this console. Likewise since they are restructuring their online marketplace allegedly, making it even harder to find indie games, it is hard to imagine any reason I have to approach Microsoft with a game for their console as opposed to just hitting up Sony and Nintendo who are making great strides for all developers these days.
I don't get why they let a lot (and I mean a LOT) of developers publish horribly programed and terrible games on Xbox LIVE though.

Devs were already talking about abandoning Windows before Windows 8 even came out because of how closed it seemed to be. So that doesn't surprise me at all, Quickie.
I'm not sure if that's the case with Japanese doujin game developers since most doujin games are being made to work on Windows XP nowadays.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Hypershell on June 06, 2013, 01:52:44 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMYso30L9zI
[/youtube]
That was absolutely hilarious...

More of an "apples to oranges" comparison when we cross into the 2D barrier, but I also recall collecting a Star Man in Super Mario World's "Star World 2"...

Cloud computing and the online requirements, big or small, are ruining the longevity of games. For an MMO title it is a huge issue that if the company goes down, or the cost of maintenance outshines the income of the game, that the servers get shut down and the game is effectively lost. There are some good legitimate reasons for this to happen, and I can't effectively blame the developers when it just doesn't work out right. But now we're adding in online requirements to games that don't need it. What happens when EA decides SimCity isn't pulling in the money anymore? Just like their other games, they will eventually shut down the servers. If you're a legitimate paying customer, who isn't hacking their game, you are screwed. The game no longer operates. What if EA was not lying, and the online service did actually perform needed calculations to run the game? Then you wouldn't even be able to hack it out. It would be gone forever, unless EA released the server software for others to support independently. We know this is NOT going to happen.

Microsoft is now putting the power of always online DRM in the hands of the console developer, and giving developers a platform to explicitly add in some cloud server calculations which could be for the sole purpose of total product domination. When their servers go down, or the next Xbox is shipped and One's service is cut off, your game stops working FOREVER. This is what bugs me the most. We could see some games that have an availability for roughly 6 years then be unplayable forever after that.
It's absolutely staggering to me how difficult it is to get the larger publishers to understand this.  I mean, sure, what do they give a damn if they're not printing the game anymore?  But the thing is, if they have *ANY* sense of a PR department, the benefit is pretty damn obvious in the "forward thinking" area alone, nevermind the whole "you don't have to worry about overloaded servers on release day" thing, which also kinda smacks you in the face.

Oh yeah, and uh, PSN hacking incident anyone?

The industry doesn't do a good job of preservation.  Heck, just look at the Mega Man franchise: For as much as Capcom LOVES to resell the same NES games, they've been ignoring the larger part of the Super NES and PS1 libraries for a variety of reasons (some in and some out of their control), even though the technology has been in place for ages.  The idea that we're expected to trust a hardware manufacturer and/or a big-name publisher that their servers will be operational for as long as we're interested in the game, it's ludicrous.  At least MMOs have the excuse of being a necessary evil, justifying the "online" aspect of the gameplay.

I don't see how building an entire console to that mentality (24 hour break supported or not) can possibly be to the benefit of anyone.  Unfortunately, yeah, Microsoft has an uncanny ability to throw money around to push a questionable product into the masses.  So...just because it's a bad idea, doesn't necessarily mean it will "fail" to the mass market.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on June 07, 2013, 12:45:03 AM
You guys heard about the apparent problems the One is having in production, necessitating a GPU Clock downgrade?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on June 07, 2013, 01:01:18 AM
Quote
With Xbox One you can game offline for up to 24 hours on your primary console, or one hour if you are logged on to a separate console accessing your library. Offline gaming is not possible after these prescribed times until you re-establish a connection, but you can still watch live TV and enjoy Blu-ray and DVD movies.

The bolded part is new. But yes, you heard right, even without an internet connection you can still use your Xbox one to play your collection of Blu-Ray and DVD Movies or watch Live TV, just like... playing your collection Blu-Ray and DVD Movies or watching Live TV without an Xbone.

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Microsoft has cancelled its #E3 post-press conference roundtable w/ the media. Not sure what to make of that.

Apparently this too.

Posted on: June 06, 2013, 05:54:58 PM
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Give your games to friends: Xbox One is designed so game publishers can enable you to give your disc-based games to your friends. There are no fees charged as part of these transfers. There are two requirements: you can only give them to people who have been on your friends list for at least 30 days and each game can only be given once.

This sounds new too. "Each game can only be given once" sounds like "You can't lend, only give away and only once."
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on June 07, 2013, 06:26:08 PM
And only to friends on a friends list.  Guess you can't get games from yard sales anymore.

Is it any wonder why I don't really bother with upgrading gaming systems, aside from the daunting price tag?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on June 12, 2013, 07:09:31 AM
Remember when Game consoles were all about just popping a disc/cart in and pressing the on button?

[spoiler](http://imageshack.us/a/img163/4752/3st9c785.jpg)
Peppridge Farm remembers.
[/spoiler]

those were the days.

Posted on: June 07, 2013, 11:07:56 AM
(http://imageshack.us/a/img507/3454/1371007350784.png)

(http://www.blogcdn.com/es.engadget.com/media/2013/06/xbox-one-day-one-controller.jpg)

>Different box
>Same controller just with some text on it
>Achievement

GIBE $100 MORE PLOX
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on June 12, 2013, 07:22:02 AM
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on June 12, 2013, 07:25:53 AM
> over $9000 $100 more than it should be
> bloasted with horseshit DRM, region-locking, dogs, sports and TV nonsense
> achievement

Hmmmmm no [tornado fang]ing way.

P.S.
[tornado fang] you for stealing a game I wanted on my Xbox 360, you [sonic slicer]. o//////o
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Protoman Blues on June 12, 2013, 07:27:50 AM
(http://imageshack.us/a/img507/3454/1371007350784.png)

(http://www.blogcdn.com/es.engadget.com/media/2013/06/xbox-one-day-one-controller.jpg)

>Different box
>Same controller just with some text on it
>Achievement

GIBE $100 MORE PLOX

...is this real?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Solar on June 12, 2013, 07:39:12 AM
He forgot to mention DLC for some launch games, but yes

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/10/e3-2013-xbox-one-premium-day-one-edition-revealed
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Reaperoid on June 12, 2013, 07:54:14 AM
...is this real?
Yeah, it's from the EB Games here
https://ebgames.com.au/featured/xbox-one
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on June 12, 2013, 08:33:46 AM
...is this real?
Hard to believe right?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Protoman Blues on June 12, 2013, 08:35:02 AM
Indeed. Hilarious!
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Mirby on June 12, 2013, 08:36:23 AM
talk about desperate >0<
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Reaperoid on June 12, 2013, 08:38:26 AM
Just to clarify, Flame, that is actually the retail price for us folks here in Australia.

AUD $599 for the console, and speculative game price point of AUD $118.
...hyup
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on June 12, 2013, 08:56:00 AM
Yeah I heard. Why does Gaming hate Aussies?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Mirby on June 12, 2013, 09:38:15 AM
not just gaming

a lot of [parasitic bomb] is ridiculously overpriced down there :\

as another Australian told me once, it would be cheaper for him to fly to California, buy Photoshop here in the US, and fly back than it would be to buy it down there.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Reaperoid on June 12, 2013, 12:42:53 PM
Yeah, and Adobe may take you to court for corporate damages if you're using a product bought in another region. And Autodesk definitely will, with their owning both industry-level modelling software packages 3DSMax and Maya.

Back on the games front, the PS4 is being listed for $500, too. PS4 is still more appealing at this moment in time, even though Sony are doing twice the markup here that Microsoft are doing. But aside from that, there actually was an inquest into the "Australia Tax" that a lot of companies seems to do despite the current parity in the dollar (eg. Apple charging 1-29 for 99c tracks).
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on June 12, 2013, 08:19:50 PM
I'll never understand why Australia has such issues with import products. I mean, I know everything down there is already trying to kill you, but it seems like everyone ELSE outside of Australia is too. (wallet wise anyway)
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: The Great Gonzo on June 12, 2013, 09:47:51 PM
I haven't watched this video (http://katamataz.tumblr.com/post/52807801197/thebeardofconvincing-jerryterry) because there's only so much stupid I can handle before inarticulate rage sets in, but from what I hear Microsoft is still not doing itself any favours.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on June 12, 2013, 09:50:40 PM
The sad trombone sells it.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 12, 2013, 09:52:09 PM
I really wonder how delusional Microsoft is right now.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Protoman Blues on June 12, 2013, 11:36:53 PM
I'd say rock-bottom, but to quote my friend Josh, "There's always lower!"
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 13, 2013, 12:08:11 AM
Oh well it'll make the Kingdom of Nintendo and Sony Republic prosper.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on June 13, 2013, 01:02:05 AM
The Xbox Ones that are corroding away in a compost heap will make their gardens lavish and beautiful. XD
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 13, 2013, 01:03:50 AM
Nah it'll be inferior livestock feed which will make fertilizer that will make the gardens lavish and beautiful.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on June 13, 2013, 01:14:07 AM
No it'll be manure that makes their gardens smell like [parasitic bomb].
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on June 13, 2013, 01:25:53 AM
No it'll be manure that makes their gardens smell like [parasitic bomb].
Or it'll be the [parasitic bomb] that will make the gardens smell like manure.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: The Great Gonzo on June 13, 2013, 02:16:04 AM
it just keeps getting worse (http://coelasquid.tumblr.com/post/52824477102/beesmygod-morbi-petitpanda-if-youre-not)

make it stop
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 13, 2013, 02:21:03 AM
DIG, DIG TO THE CENTER OF THE EARTH AND FALL INTO SPACE!

Also I see no Japan on that list. :\
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on June 13, 2013, 02:22:26 AM
Seriously?  Japan is excluded?

The hell, Microsoft?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on June 13, 2013, 02:23:15 AM
I swear, I could write a book on Microsoft's failures.

Also I see no Japan on that list. :\

That's a huge market lost. Japan loves their Xbox.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 13, 2013, 02:24:48 AM
That's a huge market lost. Japan loves their Xbox.
I thought Xbox sales in Japan were particularly low. :\
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on June 13, 2013, 02:28:14 AM
I thought Xbox sales in Japan were particularly low. :\

Whoops, sorry. I meant PS3, forget it.

Still, not having Xbone in Japan is really odd.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 13, 2013, 02:30:32 AM
It truly is.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Protoman Blues on June 13, 2013, 02:31:21 AM
There's always lower!
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 13, 2013, 02:33:32 AM
There's always lower!
Even lower than burning in Sun?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on June 13, 2013, 03:40:28 AM
I hate to sound like a complete dick about the whole situation, but...
[spoiler=venting]YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAH!!! Now you know how I [tornado fang]ing feel whenever you make goddamned region-locked games for Xbox 360, assholes! /venting[/spoiler]

But seriously though, they just gave all of Japan a big middle finger. I highly doubt they'll make many games for it now. It's ironic that MGS V is gonna be on Xboned. :\
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 13, 2013, 03:54:31 AM
I hate to sound like a complete dick about the whole situation, but...
[spoiler=venting]YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAH!!! Now you know how I [tornado fang]ing feel whenever you make goddamned region-locked games for Xbox 360, assholes! /venting[/spoiler]

But seriously though, they just gave all of Japan a big middle finger. I highly doubt they'll make many games for it now. It's ironic that MGS V is gonna be on Xboned. :\
You can't be too much of a dick in this case.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Mirby on June 13, 2013, 04:25:14 AM
Really, it's impossible to be a bigger dick than Microsoft is right now.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: The Great Gonzo on June 13, 2013, 05:01:45 AM
I completely forgot about MGS5. Isn't the Metal Gear Solid series fairly popular in Japan? Why would you make an MGS game for a console that Japanese players can't authenticate their games on (either right away or ever)?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on June 13, 2013, 05:38:52 AM
Shoot 'em ups are also popular in Japan, and the majority of those games get developed or ported to Xbox 360 (those dammed region-locked ones especially). I can only imagine a lot of Japan-only shooters are gonna end up PlayStation 4 instead (which is good because everybody can play them regardless of their region).

I completely forgot about MGS5. Isn't the Metal Gear Solid series fairly popular in Japan? Why would you make an MGS game for a console that Japanese players can't authenticate their games on (either right away or ever)?
I wonder if Kojima is face-palming about this when this crap surfaced in Japan.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Solar on June 13, 2013, 05:42:27 AM
But seriously though, they just gave all of Japan a big middle finger.

Well, technically Japan did give it the middle finger first, what with the 360 barely even selling past 1.6 million to date. If you want to see exactly how failure looks, just look at the Japanese 360 sales.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: VixyNyan on June 13, 2013, 06:41:43 AM
Hand-picked a couple of images and videos for the first post, and I think those pretty much sums up everything about X1. XD

Posted on: June 13, 2013, 05:37:03
...is this real?

Yes, and you can click to see how many people already unlocked it with their preorder, read the "guide" for it or read the very interesting review about this exclusive offer. (http://www.trueachievements.com/Microsoft-Store/achievements.htm)
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Protoman Blues on June 13, 2013, 06:42:33 AM
Hand-picked a couple of images and videos for the first post, and I think those pretty much sums up everything about X1. XD

Posted on: June 13, 2013, 05:37:03
Yes, and you can click to see how many people already unlocked it with their preorder, read the "guide" for it or read the very interesting review about this exclusive offer. (http://www.trueachievements.com/Microsoft-Store/achievements.htm)

LoL! XD
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Ahrzayl on June 13, 2013, 06:50:13 AM
Good ones! xD
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on June 13, 2013, 07:05:24 AM
Hand-picked a couple of images and videos for the first post, and I think those pretty much sums up everything about X1. XD

Posted on: June 13, 2013, 05:37:03
Yes, and you can click to see how many people already unlocked it with their preorder, read the "guide" for it or read the very interesting review about this exclusive offer. (http://www.trueachievements.com/Microsoft-Store/achievements.htm)
So there's a way around that achievement without ever buying it?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on June 13, 2013, 07:05:47 AM
I completely forgot about MGS5. Isn't the Metal Gear Solid series fairly popular in Japan? Why would you make an MGS game for a console that Japanese players can't authenticate their games on (either right away or ever)?
Doesn't really matter, It's on the other consoles as well. (including current gen)
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Protoman Blues on June 13, 2013, 06:22:51 PM
"There's ALWAYS lower!" (http://gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=205110)
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Mirby on June 13, 2013, 06:27:35 PM
It's official.

Microsoft is the jealous girlfriend who gets dumped and tries all manner of completely illogical things to win love back.

Granted it's doomed to failure, but still.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on June 13, 2013, 06:29:26 PM
Wow.  Just, wow.  I seriously have no words.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Mirby on June 13, 2013, 06:32:13 PM
I think the best part is how awkward that Microsoft employee looks there.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 13, 2013, 06:32:25 PM
"There's ALWAYS lower!" (http://gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=205110)
God Dammit Microsoft just stop...just...just stop....you're going into a [tornado fang]ing blackhole that's going to pop you into a dimension full of man eating plants and acid.


Seriously where are their brains, I think they got shipped to 10 million BC or something.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on June 13, 2013, 06:34:03 PM
Oh god Microsoft.

They're just jelly that they're not wanted because of their controlling nature.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on June 13, 2013, 06:40:26 PM
Nintendoes what Microsoft don't♪ 8D
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Kieran on June 13, 2013, 06:44:29 PM
Reggie's response to the whole used game restriction thing:  "Make better games, and maybe people won't want to trade them in."

I [parasitic bomb] you not.  http://www.polygon.com/2013/6/13/4426338/nintendo-if-youre-worried-about-used-game-sales-make-better-games
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: megaman24681012 on June 13, 2013, 06:45:17 PM
If only I was there. I would said to the guy: "I'm here for the Wii U. If I wanted the Xbox One I'd connect myself to the internet every 24 hours." >0<
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Protoman Blues on June 13, 2013, 08:21:48 PM
Reggie's response to the whole used game restriction thing:  "Make better games, and maybe people won't want to trade them in."

I [parasitic bomb] you not.  http://www.polygon.com/2013/6/13/4426338/nintendo-if-youre-worried-about-used-game-sales-make-better-games

Love you Reggie
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on June 13, 2013, 08:34:04 PM
Well it's true.

Developers are quick to blame Piracy and used games for their woes, but have they ever considered the quality of their product as a factor? Of course not. Just like The market was over saturated with bad games and similar consoles back in the video game Crash of the 80's, the current market is over saturated with wannabe AAA blockbusters and FPS Call of Duty clones. The games sure are not getting any cheaper, but their quality is stagnating, with gems hidden beneath piles of turds whoa ll try to be the next Arkham City, or the next Call of Duty, or the next big Zombie game, or the next big "survival" game.

People play it, get sick of it, trade it in. if there was more quality control instead of this play-it-safe-and-try-to-be-the-next-blockbuster system, they would all be better for it. To make money you have to take a risk and try something new. Something creative. Not what everyone else is doing.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Protoman Blues on June 13, 2013, 08:38:54 PM
What point is there in keeping Call of Duty: Shoot People With Grim Background when Call of Duty: Shoot More People and [tornado fang] Color is coming out in a year?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on June 13, 2013, 08:41:29 PM
My dad still has all the CoD games he's been given for christmas and such.

He likes them enough and plays them pretty casually but I don't know why he doesn't trade in the ones he doesn't play anymore.

But yeah, there's no point in keeping the last years model when the current year's model has MOCAP DOGS.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 13, 2013, 08:42:21 PM
Seriously if I studied every FPS game and someone gives me a screen shot of one, I wouldn't be able to tell what it is.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on June 13, 2013, 08:46:13 PM
You play one Call of Duty you've played them all.

You play one Madden you've played them all.

You play one *Insert big name franchise that has yearly releases here* you've played them all.

Very bland and safe, and these games still only barely make back their budget and are "Failures" because of how much money they flood into them.

Its [tornado fang]ing sick.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on June 13, 2013, 08:49:44 PM
Seriously if I studied every FPS game and someone gives me a screen shot of one, I wouldn't be able to tell what it is.

Now now not every FPS looks gray and gritty. There's Irrational Games' BioShock series that actually looks unique from other games in the genre. BioShock Infinite is probably the most vibrant and colorful FPS that exists.

BioShock 1 and 2 have an interesting underwater theme and the overall design seperates them from the flock.

There's probably others, not many mind you, but still. More FPS games should try to be different like the BioShock series.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on June 13, 2013, 08:52:36 PM
Now now not every FPS looks gray and gritty.

Serious Sam is pretty colorful (for an FPS) and its more along the lines of a 90s FPS game, no reloading [parasitic bomb].
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Protoman Blues on June 13, 2013, 08:54:58 PM
It's actually why I like Halo. It has actual color and pretty awesome levels. Plus JEEP ACTION!
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on June 13, 2013, 08:58:36 PM
I can respect Halo. Halo sort of redefined the genre, (it saved the original Xbox too) but then everyone wanted to be Halo, and that kind of ruined it. Halo became this giant OMG HALO thing and I got sick of it.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on June 13, 2013, 09:05:16 PM
Now now not every FPS looks gray and gritty. There's Irrational Games' BioShock series that actually looks unique from other games in the genre. BioShock Infinite is probably the most vibrant and colorful FPS that exists.

BioShock 1 and 2 have an interesting underwater theme and the overall design seperates them from the flock.

There's probably others, not many mind you, but still. More FPS games should try to be different like the BioShock series.
This is why BioShock, and its spiritual ancestor System Shock, will stand out for me unlike Call of Doggies: See Spot Gun Down the Mailman XXVII: Origins. You will NEVER Art Deco, Steampunk or Cyberpunk in Call of Doggies. Ever.

Posted on: June 13, 2013, 03:01:17 PM
Plus System Shock is part RPG, not just FPS, and I've been an RPG person more than an FPS fan.

I can respect Halo. Halo sort of redefined the genre, (it saved the original Xbox too) but then everyone wanted to be Halo, and that kind of ruined it. Halo became this giant OMG HALO thing and I got sick of it.
That and MANY games since than re-used the recharging shield mechanic over and over again.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on June 14, 2013, 12:35:14 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/s6vtGm4.png)
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on June 14, 2013, 12:38:21 AM
So, your PS4 games will work on a nuclear sub?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Protoman Blues on June 14, 2013, 12:44:13 AM
It can probably run the sub! XD
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 14, 2013, 01:02:33 AM
I wonder if you can play the PS4 on Mars. XD
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on June 14, 2013, 01:14:59 AM
I wonder if you can play the PS4 on Mars. XD
Its region-free, so you can still play it even if you get sucked through a massive blackhole of [tornado fang] that Xbone created and wind up on an planet from another dimension inhabited by catpeople. 8D

Their technology will probably way more advanced than ours though.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Protoman Blues on June 14, 2013, 06:55:56 AM
There's ALWAYS lower (http://www.ibtimes.com/xbox-one-region-locked-microsoft-game-console-will-not-work-outside-21-launch-countries-1304945)

I mean, region locking is one thing. But if I'm reading this correctly, if you buy an XBone in the US, then have to travel for business or whatever, you won't be able to play your games due to the system being import locked.

Wow. Just.... wow.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on June 14, 2013, 06:58:01 AM
Just keep digging that grave, Microsoft.  You're almost there.  Soon, you'll be deep enough that the overlying earth should suppress the stench.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on June 14, 2013, 07:01:31 AM
This is just getting rediculous, its like the Xbone is a parody of overpowering DRM that fucks users over, its too crazy to exist, yet it does. It boggles the mind.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 14, 2013, 07:02:02 AM
There getting closer to that black hole leading to a planet of man eating plants and acid.

Meanwhile we are still combing prehistoric times for the location of their brains.

Seriously amazing how much stuff is being leaked out.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on June 14, 2013, 07:19:32 AM
Meanwhile, in Thundera, everybody is playing PS4 and Wii U while Mum-Ra tries to sabotage everybody's fun with an army of Xboned machines and fantards.

Seriously amazing how much stuff is being leaked out.
It's the [parasitic bomb] that's leaking out of the septic tank of Microsoft HQ. And it stinks. >^<
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on June 14, 2013, 07:35:20 AM
Better call a plumber to take a look at those pipes! 8D
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on June 14, 2013, 08:42:10 AM
...Wait a tick, that's it right there! Xbox One is [parasitic bomb] from the assholes at Microsoft and every one of their employees just as Captain Novolin is human misery in video game form. It is essentially a TV box filled with [parasitic bomb] and operates as a "gaming console" on that very fecal matter it was made from. That is the only logical conclusion for this soggy diarrhea of a gaming platform to exist. No way can animals can produce excrement this putrid and foul -- even if they tried or if they were drugged up on laxatives -- only human beings with the combined IQ as low as Microsoft as a whole can take a huge [parasitic bomb] that offends all five human senses. :o
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on June 14, 2013, 09:04:18 AM
http://www.ibtimes.com/xbox-one-users-must-waive-right-class-action-suits-against-microsoft-experts-weigh-1306797

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1iycfzd2w1qap3ouo1_400.jpg)
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on June 14, 2013, 09:11:18 AM
Hammer those nails in there good and tight, Microsoft.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Mirby on June 14, 2013, 09:13:45 AM
I think the best part of it is that they know how incredibly poorly-received the system is, which almost guarantees it will fail (or do incredibly poorly, at the very least), and yet they're sticking to it.

It's blind arrogance at its finest, really.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on June 14, 2013, 09:20:43 AM
http://www.ibtimes.com/xbox-one-users-must-waive-right-class-action-suits-against-microsoft-experts-weigh-1306797

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1iycfzd2w1qap3ouo1_400.jpg)

*sigh* I'm done trying to understand how their mind works.

On a lighter note, DAT ROLLER COASTER TYCOON! <3

I think it's time the Microsoft heads took a little... "dip" in the water.
[spoiler]people who played the game will know what I'm talking about[/spoiler]
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Solar on June 14, 2013, 09:35:25 AM
There's ALWAYS lower (http://www.ibtimes.com/xbox-one-region-locked-microsoft-game-console-will-not-work-outside-21-launch-countries-1304945)

I mean, region locking is one thing. But if I'm reading this correctly, if you buy an XBone in the US, then have to travel for business or whatever, you won't be able to play your games due to the system being import locked.

Wow. Just.... wow.

Well, that is EXACTLY what happens when ALL games need to be activated online, they can easily IP block them. This [parasitic bomb] is annoying enough with YT videos and other online services, but a [tornado fang]ing videogame console? Yeeeeeeah, no, sorry MS but no sale.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: VirusChris on June 14, 2013, 05:44:58 PM
Sad part is people are STILL pre-order this thing. I went into GameStop today to fully pay off my reserve of Project X Zone and the customer next to me ask to pre-order the Xbox One and I was like "Seriously?!" which boggled my mind a bit. He did say he wanted it just to watch movies, but wouldn't a normal Blu-Ray and DVD Player be cheaper and better to have as he said he doesn't plan on getting video games for it.

I mean, why pay for more to play movies on a system when you can get something that plays that solely and cost less? I neglect to mention that but sometimes, do people even use their brains at all? No offense but some people just make me do a double take at times at the things they do.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on June 14, 2013, 07:59:05 PM
http://jalopnik.com/i-got-thrown-in-microsoft-jail-for-taking-pictures-of-512918787
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 14, 2013, 08:04:39 PM
http://jalopnik.com/i-got-thrown-in-microsoft-jail-for-taking-pictures-of-512918787
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on June 14, 2013, 08:09:15 PM
http://jalopnik.com/i-got-thrown-in-microsoft-jail-for-taking-pictures-of-512918787

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=IthVUfkhe4c#t=11s
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on June 14, 2013, 08:10:27 PM
Microsoft is the Limbo champion.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on June 14, 2013, 08:23:00 PM
Here's some more.

PC.

SO GOOD, EVEN MICROSOFT RUNS IT!

http://imgur.com/a/NbGau

Also, >Win 7

even Microsoft knows Windows 8 is [parasitic bomb].
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Protoman Blues on June 14, 2013, 08:57:29 PM
There's always lower!  8D
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on June 14, 2013, 08:58:19 PM
They're already the Limbo champion though.

Unless they play the special brand of limbo where you go through the floor or something.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on June 14, 2013, 09:03:52 PM
There's always lower!  8D

You're still going to be saying that even if Microsoft dispatches employees to burn down Sony headquarters. 8D
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on June 14, 2013, 10:02:18 PM
They're already the Limbo champion though.

Unless they play the special brand of limbo where you go through the floor or something.
I wouldn't be surprised if they go so low that they tear a hole through the space-time continuum.

Here's some more.

PC.

SO GOOD, EVEN MICROSOFT RUNS IT!

http://imgur.com/a/NbGau

Also, >Win 7

even Microsoft knows Windows 8 is [parasitic bomb].
So it can run Windows? [tornado fang] that. If I want a PC (preferably Windows XP or 7) that I can actually upgrade and play games without DRM (legal or otherwise), I'd get a friggin' PC, not a cheap piece of hardware with horseshit DRM.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on June 14, 2013, 10:06:28 PM
http://majornelson.com/2013/06/13/win-a-special-mountain-dew-doritos-xbox-one-promotional-package/
[tornado fang] man, I REALLY want to get off Mr. Xbones wild ride...
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on June 14, 2013, 10:13:50 PM
http://majornelson.com/2013/06/13/win-a-special-mountain-dew-doritos-xbox-one-promotional-package/
[tornado fang] man, I REALLY want to get off Mr. Xbones wild ride...

PFHHAHAHAHA! THEY DID IT! THEY REALLY [tornado fang]ing DID IT!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on June 14, 2013, 10:19:11 PM
http://majornelson.com/2013/06/13/win-a-special-mountain-dew-doritos-xbox-one-promotional-package/

(http://i.imgur.com/SRGI9.png)
You can't be serious...
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on June 14, 2013, 10:39:29 PM
Mr. Xbones wild ride...

I see what you did there
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on June 14, 2013, 10:55:39 PM
I'd rather go through the entire hellish CarnEvil than ride on Mr. Xbones Wild Ride...

-EDIT-
I'm surprised the thread hasn't been renamed to something more fitting to describe how [parasitic bomb] Xboned is.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on June 14, 2013, 11:07:31 PM
From what I gathered from the images, the console showcased was merely a box with LEDs, while the actual system running the demos was a hidden computer.

Smooth move, X-Lax.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on June 14, 2013, 11:19:07 PM
Well thats what most devs do. At E3, it's almost all gaming PC's running the gamesbecause they don't have the consoles ready. (especially Microsoft who's currently degrading their console due to those issues they were having. ) So they wow people with impressive PC quality graphics and framerate, because it's a PC, and the console version usually won't be nearly as good.

relevant:
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/06/07/pc-gaming-e3s-dirty-little-secret/

Though from what i hear, Nintendo tends to be the exception, always running ACTUAL consoles, even if they are prototype "in development" versions.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on June 14, 2013, 11:46:41 PM
If this is pretty much common knowledge, why hide it?  Seems underhanded to me.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: VixyNyan on June 14, 2013, 11:53:34 PM
There's just some specs they don't want to show "just yet", so that people will still think it's the "most powerful console" of all time.

Snapping some comments from a friend that details his discoveries and personal knowledge.

(http://i.imgur.com/lj0iffr.png) (http://i.imgur.com/lj0iffr.png)
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 14, 2013, 11:55:22 PM
Can you pull up the rest of the current gen console specs for a comparison?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: VixyNyan on June 15, 2013, 12:07:26 AM
http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/xbox-one-vs-xbox-360-spec-showdown/
http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/playstation-3-vs-playstation-4-in-depth-spec-comparison/
http://asia.cnet.com/xbox-one-vs-ps4-vs-wii-u-update-62221458.htm

Posted on: June 14, 2013, 22:56:04
One more that might be a little more recent:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/21/xbox-one-xbox-360-ps4-comparison/
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Mirby on June 15, 2013, 12:40:53 AM
really how much worse can this get
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on June 15, 2013, 01:36:12 AM
There's ALWAYS... worse. 8D
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Fxeni on June 15, 2013, 02:13:22 AM
Tends to be GTX 670s in those things.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on June 15, 2013, 04:35:07 AM
There's ALWAYS... worse. 8D

Though at this point we've yet to see what they're going to do next that makes it go even lower.

Though, what's the tally for the stupid [parasitic bomb] Microsoft has done now? I'm sure one exists.

Let me try and think of the series of events:

-Xbox One, stupid name that's confusing.
-Kinect Required to play.
-TV SPORTS TV SPORTS
-Internet Connection every 24 hours required to play. (Every hour if on a console that isn't yours.)
-Forced Install onto harddrive for physical games, thus eliminating the purpose of physical games.
-Used Games and Rentals are dead, Used games only allowed if the Publisher says its okay, still might have to pay a fee.
-Don Mattrick calls Backwards Compatibilty and people who care about it 'really backwards'
-$500
-Don Mattrick tells people that if people don't have a reliable internet connection that they should stick with the 360.
-Japan isn't on the launch list
-Day One Edition Preorder with Achievement and DLC
-Doritos/Mountain Dew Promotion
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on June 15, 2013, 05:52:43 AM
If this is pretty much common knowledge, why hide it?  Seems underhanded to me.
Probably because Microsoft is trying to pass it off as an actual console under the cabinet, when it's all smoke and mirrors. ESPECIALLY during presentations. They are trying to sell it as WOW LOOK AT ALL THIS [parasitic bomb] I'M DOING IN REAL TIME

When it's really not, and isn't even running on Xbox comparable hardware. No, it's just plain and simple a PC build. A high end Gaming PC.

Also, the fact that the PC's they are running at E3, don't even use "comparable specs". That PC, as pointed out by some astute /v/ users, (conformed by other PC folk as well) is running a Nvidia GTX 700 series or something GPU, when the actual Xboned uses a modified AMD GPU. there's also a water cooled CPU. And they are also using Windows 7, as opposed to the Windows 8 that the actual system uses.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img191/1538/geq1.jpg)

Sony meanwhile, apparently is running on actual PS4 stuff. A Knack demo crashed at E3, and the interface was all Sony's PS4 OS, no PC stuff to be seen there.
(http://imageshack.us/a/img521/774/5gd3.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img809/1828/agnt.jpg)


And did we already discuss how Microsoft had folks going to the Wii-U event asking people why they were in line for a Wii_U when they could go around the corner to the Xboned stand and preorder it?

Apparently, the Wii-U turnout was bigger than Best Buy expected.

On that note, very interesting article

http://gamerhorizon.com/e3-2013-playstations-careful-assassination-of-the-xbox-one/

EDIT: I KNEW I was forgetting something!

The wild ride continues!

(http://imageshack.us/a/img15/6669/5tyk.png)
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Fxeni on June 15, 2013, 06:09:33 AM
Ehh... not all the games were running on the PS4. I'll just keep it at that.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on June 15, 2013, 06:15:51 AM
But the point is, they at least had PS4s running
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Protoman Blues on June 15, 2013, 06:51:41 AM
Allllllllllllllllllways lower!
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on June 15, 2013, 08:22:14 AM
We all just have to wonder what they could possibly do next to further show their arrogance and blind faith that gamers are sheep that'll buy anything under their nose.(Not that there aren't Sheep, but we aren't all sheep.)
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on June 15, 2013, 08:06:50 PM
Though, what's the tally for the stupid [parasitic bomb] Microsoft has done now? I'm sure one exists.

Let me try and think of the series of events:

-TV SPORTS TV SPORTS

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7u9hP4r1S8[/youtube]

-Don Mattrick tells people that if people don't have a reliable internet connection that they should stick with the 360.
Don, I [tornado fang]ing plan on it 'til I get me a Wii U, [sonic slicer].

-Don Mattrick calls Backwards Compatibilty and people who care about it 'really backwards'
Like their ability to think logically? 8D

-$500
> Wii U Basic: $300
>> Wii U Deluxe: 350
> PlayStation 4: 400

U mad, Micro$oft?

-Japan isn't on the launch list
Boooooo!

-Day One Edition Preorder with Achievement and DLC
BOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

-Doritos/Mountain Dew Promotion
At this point, I believe Doritos and Moutain Dew to be the promoting whores of snacks and soft drinks, which is why I go for this:

(http://i.imgur.com/hBaPVuG.jpg)
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on June 15, 2013, 08:11:02 PM
Sun Chips are the best kind of chips~
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on June 15, 2013, 08:12:01 PM
Sun Chips are pretty tasty.

I prefer Ruffles with Cottage Cheese though.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on June 15, 2013, 08:14:31 PM
They go great with hummus~ 8)
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 15, 2013, 08:15:55 PM
I kinda like these Blue Corn tortilla chips with Flax Seed I get at Target.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on June 15, 2013, 08:19:51 PM
In terms of chips, Sun Chips and Bugles are probably my two favorite.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on June 15, 2013, 08:44:27 PM
They still make bugles?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on June 15, 2013, 08:48:36 PM
You bet!

Though I've mainly seen them in vending machines.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on June 15, 2013, 08:48:39 PM
Do they not sell them where you live?

I see the big bags at the grocery store all the time.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on June 16, 2013, 03:45:14 AM
I haven't really searched for them. So I might just not have noticed them. They certainly don't get advertised anymore.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on June 16, 2013, 04:15:04 AM
This was the last Bugles commercial I remember ever seeing.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dq8RgAECGVA[/youtube]
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: The Great Gonzo on June 16, 2013, 06:26:52 AM
Technically already posted, but that "forfeit the license" thing? Now worse. (http://krudman.tumblr.com/post/53017599693/smilingemoticon-itsvondell-voldey-just)
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on June 16, 2013, 07:51:40 AM
so...

Quote
the owner of a particular copy or phonorecord lawfully made under this title, or any person authorized by such owner, is entitled, without the authority of the copyright owner, to sell or otherwise dispose of the possession of that copy or phonorecord.

- United States Code, Title 17, Section 109(a)


a copyright owner who transfers title in a particular copy to a purchaser or donee cannot prevent resale of that particular copy

- UMG Recordings, Inc. v. Augusto, United States Court of Appeals, Ninth Circuit (2011)
All this bullshit with used games?

Possibly actually illegal.

Xbox, please, go home.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on June 16, 2013, 07:59:51 AM
There's ALWAYS lower, worse, stupider, and more inane.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 16, 2013, 08:02:45 AM
Okay couldn't find their brains in prehistoric times, I'm heading for the 1950's next anyone want to come with?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on June 16, 2013, 08:09:02 AM
Okay couldn't find their brains in prehistoric times, I'm heading for the 1950's next anyone want to come with?

Clearly their brains are in the 60s, heavily afflicted with LSD along with the other hippies.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Ahrzayl on June 16, 2013, 08:14:32 AM
Awww, but I likd hippies. :'(
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Hypershell on June 16, 2013, 08:16:47 AM
so...
All this bullshit with used games?

Possibly actually illegal.

Xbox, please, go home.
Not a lawyer, but my understanding is as follows:

The way it's legal is that they craft some Terms of Service that nobody ever looks at to make the end user agree to it and give up their rights.  You can of course reject a ToS and enjoy your expensive paper weight, but as long as it qualifies as a form of copy protection, then the act of circumventing it is illegal under the DMCA.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on June 16, 2013, 08:20:43 AM
Technically already posted, but that "forfeit the license" thing? Now worse. (http://krudman.tumblr.com/post/53017599693/smilingemoticon-itsvondell-voldey-just)

They later addressed that this was regarding the 360.

Though it'll probably be the same for the one.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on June 16, 2013, 08:50:40 AM
Not a lawyer, but my understanding is as follows:

The way it's legal is that they craft some Terms of Service that nobody ever looks at to make the end user agree to it and give up their rights.  You can of course reject a ToS and enjoy your expensive paper weight, but as long as it qualifies as a form of copy protection, then the act of circumventing it is illegal under the DMCA.

Also, I suspect that Microsoft's evil team of corporate attorneys would be apprised of this and have already found ways to circumvent it.  They would have tackled that snag long before any announcement was made, so as to avoid legal entanglements.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on June 16, 2013, 09:04:01 AM
Awww, but I likd hippies. :'(

Nothing personal against hippies, they're a fun bunch. But a lot of them did use LSD...

Come to think of it, I just placed Microsoft along with them. Microsoft is the exact opposite of "fun."

Forget it then! 8D
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 16, 2013, 09:05:29 AM
Nothing personal against hippies, they're a fun bunch. But a lot of them did use LSD...

Come to think of it, I just placed Microsoft along with them. Microsoft is the exact opposite of "fun."

Forget it then! 8D
Hench why I said 1950's.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Hypershell on June 16, 2013, 04:38:50 PM
Also, I suspect that Microsoft's evil team of corporate attorneys would be apprised of this and have already found ways to circumvent it.  They would have tackled that snag long before any announcement was made, so as to avoid legal entanglements.
Doubtless.  No telling if a judge would side with them, but I can see where, from a "ruthless business" standpoint, they're getting their precedent from.

It's worth mentioning that the whole "temporary license to play" bullshit has been technically written into ToS by all of the big three for their digital downloads already.  The thing is, it was always dismissed as the big corporation's tendency to overstate their legal rights in unfamiliar territory.  The practical function of the consoles made it clear, that if for any reason you ever were ever cut off from their online services, you can still play whatever you had downloaded prior.  It's just that you were on your own in doing so; since your license is revoked, the manufacturer is released from all obligations and responsibilities.  I suspect that statement was intended to guard against liability for people who might otherwise sue for being unable to access the not-previously-downloaded remainder of their library following such a ban (or the inevitable "server shutdown" date, for that matter), and most certainly there are better ways it could have been worded if that is the case.

What Microsoft did is take that statement to the ultimate extreme.  It is the effective result of any such draconian DRM scheme as we knew they were building, though, so I'm not sure why certain circles are treating it as a separate story.  Bottom line is the same: They dictated that if your "license" is ever revoked for any reason, you are not merely forbidden to access or forbidden to download, you actually are forbidden to play.  Ever.  For one ill-conceived DRM game (Sim City says hi), that's bad.  For an entire freaking console, that's an absolute nightmare.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on June 16, 2013, 05:31:53 PM
What the [tornado fang], Notch, you're letting Microshit put Minecraft on Xboned?! I thought they hated indie devs, or are they selective assholes about it?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on June 16, 2013, 05:37:14 PM
What the [tornado fang], Notch, you're letting Microshit put Minecraft on Xboned?! I thought they hated indie devs, or are they selective assholes about it?

You're a bit late.

But Minecraft on 360 sells and naturally they gotta have it on Xbone too.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Reaperoid on June 16, 2013, 05:45:04 PM
Yep, they sure are. Straight to "disc", too... (https://ebgames.com.au/xbox-one-162884-Minecraft---Xbox-One-Edition-Placeholder-Price-Xbox-One) 8D
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on June 16, 2013, 05:48:49 PM
Yep, they sure are. Straight to "disc", too... (https://ebgames.com.au/xbox-one-162884-Minecraft---Xbox-One-Edition-Placeholder-Price-Xbox-One) 8D

That placeholder price.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Mr. Haxwell on June 16, 2013, 06:19:03 PM
That placeholder price.

Oh you [tornado fang]ing kidding me. Are they serious?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on June 16, 2013, 06:27:31 PM
Its Australian. So that's probably why.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on June 16, 2013, 08:59:07 PM
Doubtless.  No telling if a judge would side with them, but I can see where, from a "ruthless business" standpoint, they're getting their precedent from.

It's worth mentioning that the whole "temporary license to play" bullshit has been technically written into ToS by all of the big three for their digital downloads already.  The thing is, it was always dismissed as the big corporation's tendency to overstate their legal rights in unfamiliar territory.  The practical function of the consoles made it clear, that if for any reason you ever were ever cut off from their online services, you can still play whatever you had downloaded prior.  It's just that you were on your own in doing so; since your license is revoked, the manufacturer is released from all obligations and responsibilities.  I suspect that statement was intended to guard against liability for people who might otherwise sue for being unable to access the not-previously-downloaded remainder of their library following such a ban (or the inevitable "server shutdown" date, for that matter), and most certainly there are better ways it could have been worded if that is the case.

What Microsoft did is take that statement to the ultimate extreme.  It is the effective result of any such draconian DRM scheme as we knew they were building, though, so I'm not sure why certain circles are treating it as a separate story.  Bottom line is the same: They dictated that if your "license" is ever revoked for any reason, you are not merely forbidden to access or forbidden to download, you actually are forbidden to play.  Ever.  For one ill-conceived DRM game (Sim City says hi), that's bad.  For an entire freaking console, that's an absolute nightmare.

And since they're also doing away with the rental market, a market that is pretty good at bringing in purchasers, they're unloading the entire clip into their foot.  Games are expensive to buy.  At $60 a pop, it's just not a financially feasible hobby for many.  Thus, many people will rent games.  Take the game home and try it out for a modest price.  If they like the game, they're more apt to purchase the title for themselves.

When you remove that market, you remove the consumers.  We can't try before we buy.  How will we know that we'll like the game?  Why would we spend $60 on a game that could turn out to be really crappy?  I'd prefer to drop $5-8 on a rental, try the game, and make a decision then.  More often than not, if I really like the game, I will go out and buy it, either used or new, depending on availability.

This whole thing is going to hurt them badly.  They're eliminating an entire market.  That is possibly the worst business decision of all.  Excising a viable and profitable market like a malignant tumor just so you can cut out another market?  May as well just take the whole organ with the tumor.  I'm sure we can live without that liver.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Align on June 16, 2013, 09:06:09 PM
On the bright side, maybe this'll prove once and for all to publishers that piracy isn't the reason their games aren't selling.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on June 16, 2013, 09:19:07 PM
Also, a focus on one-and-done games with virtually zero replay value...
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Hypershell on June 16, 2013, 09:28:26 PM
Oh, I'm sure they'll ALWAYS blame piracy (I'm also sure that breaking the XBone will be considered a top priority amongst the hacking elite, even if they do find it difficult to do so), but at the very least it ought to convince them to stop treating used game buyers as pirates.

...maybe.  I don't really know if the XBone will fail, per se, in that Microsoft has an uncanny ability to push crap hardware out to the ignorant consumer (360 failure rates).  They have made their stance clear that they intend to sell it without the aid of "core gamers" to evangelize for them (which they have also done before, with Kinect).  Still, even if they successfully push this as a sports fan's premium magic box thing, I don't imagine that the game attachment rate will be all that impressive.

I'm also wondering how long it will take before the general public catches on to the fact that the full and sole purpose of XBone discs is to placate people who don't actually want an internet-required system (both consumers AND retailers).  Obviously the "gamers" know it, but when all who are techno-literate enough to even maintain an XBone's functionality catch on as well, then why in the blue hell will they buy a disc when it all gets installed/sent to the cloud anyway?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on June 16, 2013, 09:34:22 PM
My hope is that perhaps the mass majority will prove me wrong, perhaps the system will fail utterly.

But, I've learned long ago that humanity is full of very stupid people, and their voices tend to be the loudest.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on June 16, 2013, 09:39:52 PM
Also, a focus on one-and-done games with virtually zero replay value...

Yep.

Reggie even stated that he's seen a lot of games with very low replay value, going on to place Nintendo titles as significantly more replayable than them.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 16, 2013, 09:43:44 PM
It will probably do bad in the first few years than start to pick up a bit later to quote someone who was pretty much neutral in the console war thing watching E3.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on June 16, 2013, 11:01:59 PM
so...
All this bullshit with used games?

Possibly actually illegal.

Xbox, please, go home.

It's not illegal and here is why:

There is one important detail to catch here. Microsoft has been outwardly using only the phrase "game license" instead of "game copy" such as in cases like "when you buy the game license". You are NOT getting a game copy anymore, you are buying an install medium with a game license. This technicality makes all the difference. There is likely going to be License Agreements on every disk before the install as well to explicitly state this. You have to agree to it in order to play the game of course.

This is a much dated reference, but it should give you an idea of what I mean. It is the same as ordering AOL and receiving the install disk in the mail. You can't resell your license/subscription to AOL, just pass the disk on. However, anyone who gets that disk has to pay AOL for access of course.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on June 16, 2013, 11:05:55 PM
These are turbulent waters to tread in, and I can only see the idea backfiring.  For AOL, it worked fine, as it was a given.  You need to pay for Internet access.  But, for games?  So, your friend wants to borrow your game so he can see if it's worth buying.  Well, he can't.  He has to first buy the game to see if it's worth buying.

Sense make this does not.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Kieran on June 16, 2013, 11:30:59 PM
I think Microsoft is trying to use Steam's business model, but the problem is they aren't Valve.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 19, 2013, 12:49:56 AM
Speaking of trying to be like Steam.

http://www.pcauthority.com.au/News/346744,possible-microsoft-engineer-on-xbox-one-we-suck-at-telling-the-story.aspx
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Kieran on June 19, 2013, 03:00:00 AM
Yeah, the difference there is that if my PC can't get internet for more than a day (infrequent, but it does happen), I can still play my Steam library.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on June 19, 2013, 04:53:30 AM
http://www.navytimes.com/article/20130614/OFFDUTY02/306140030

http://www.warpzoned.com/2013/06/congressmen-propose-we-are-watching-you-act-an-anti-kinect-bill/

Heh... Heh... Oh man. The ride truly never ends.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 19, 2013, 05:00:18 AM
Great job Microsoft now you got the government on your ass.  They should just delay this pile of [parasitic bomb] and re-work it.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on June 19, 2013, 05:09:56 AM
I actually hope they don't and continue this strain of arrogance. I would love to see Microsoft learn from their mistakes like every Third Console beforehand (Well in Sega's case it was too late but Nintendo and Sony both seem to have learned and taken steps to prevent their past mistakes.) And if they don't, well I can't say I will be missing their presence in the game market.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on June 19, 2013, 05:10:59 AM
Nope, because Sony. they will NOT admit a defeat or fuckup to Sony. They are sticking to their guns, and it will cost them in the long run. Sony [tornado fang]ing executed Microsoft's console with the precision of a surgeon. And I'm not just talking E3. I mean the stuff behind the scenes, with rumors and possible misinformation, where it's possible that Sony intentionally leaked proposed DRM console ideas on the net to gauge reaction and set MS on their trail, so that they would blaze ahead with the One's DRM [parasitic bomb], thinking Sony would do the exact same. So Sony decides NOT to do it, and instead do the OPPOSITE, and also reveal their PS4 early, to force Microsoft to follow suit, who expected to squeeze some more life out of the 360. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the Xboned's design is last minute. It's so [tornado fang]ing plain and boring that it looks like it took no long time to design, while the PS4 is VERY designed.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 19, 2013, 05:13:04 AM
I guess that's true, either way I don't care to buy anything from Microsoft and find this thing so entertaining.

EDIT: Gaming wise I mean.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on June 19, 2013, 05:17:27 AM
In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the Xboned's design is last minute. It's so [tornado fang]ing plain and boring that it looks like it took no long time to design, while the PS4 is VERY designed.

I find it so odd that some people actually find the Xbone appealing compared to the PS4.

Maybe its that I just don't get how people can find a large cumbersome box more appealing than a far smaller console with a slightly more unique shape.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 19, 2013, 05:18:45 AM
The thing looks like a blue ray player, which I find weird.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Ahrzayl on June 19, 2013, 05:20:12 AM
I've learned long ago that humanity is full of very stupid people, and their voices tend to be the loudest.
This.

I was talking to my boss about this because he was asking why I thought the Xboned was bad. I didn't give him reasons as to why I THOUGHT it was bad but how I KNEW it was bad through facts. For aome reason he still thinks this is all my personal opinion. Too bad I cant throw the internet at people.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on June 19, 2013, 05:27:10 AM
>Confirmed, Intrusive DRM that fucks with game sharing and playing in general

>THAT'S JUST LIKE, YOUR OPINION, MAN

Ok.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 19, 2013, 05:29:50 AM
Your boss is weird.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Mirby on June 19, 2013, 05:33:52 AM
I find this whole debacle worthy of... well, this:
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-1GfmTKO5qC8/TiACVMoxWAI/AAAAAAAAABo/PEA2-v2ByVg/s150-c/photo.jpg)
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 19, 2013, 05:42:10 AM
Agreed.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: VixyNyan on June 19, 2013, 05:51:39 AM
As I said before, if there are games (good ones), there "might" be an appeal (even for me), but right now my money is on Smash Bros for WiiU/3DS and DKC Tropical Freeze. :3

Think ahead before purchase.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Protoman Blues on June 19, 2013, 06:02:33 AM
As I said before, if there are games (good ones), there "might" be an appeal (even for me), but right now my money is on Smash Bros for WiiU/3DS and DKC Tropical Freeze. :3

Think ahead before purchase.

My money is on you!  8D
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on June 19, 2013, 06:06:45 AM
As I said before, if there are games (good ones), there "might" be an appeal (even for me), but right now my money is on Smash Bros for WiiU/3DS and DKC Tropical Freeze. :3

Think ahead before purchase.

Is it even going to be available in sweden? I mean half the appeal must already be gone from it seeing as you can't get the Non-existant Japanese console like you usually do.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on June 19, 2013, 06:07:19 AM
The only time I will ever buy this DRM-bloated piece of crap if it goes down to $50-100. Until then, unless it gets ported to another console or PC, Crimson Dragon is dead to me.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on June 19, 2013, 06:52:26 AM
The only time I will ever buy this DRM-bloated piece of crap if it goes down to $50-100. Until then, unless it gets ported to another console or PC, Crimson Dragon is dead to me.

You're insane if you think you'll ever be able to buy this piece of [parasitic bomb] at $50-100.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 19, 2013, 06:57:43 AM
You're insane if you think you'll ever be able to buy this piece of [parasitic bomb] at $50-100.
He's exaggerating.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on June 19, 2013, 07:01:11 AM
He's exaggerating.

I sure as hell hope so.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on June 19, 2013, 07:11:36 AM
I find this whole debacle worthy of... well, this:
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-1GfmTKO5qC8/TiACVMoxWAI/AAAAAAAAABo/PEA2-v2ByVg/s150-c/photo.jpg)

Love that episode. :cookie:
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on June 19, 2013, 09:29:19 AM
Speaking of trying to be like Steam.

http://www.pcauthority.com.au/News/346744,possible-microsoft-engineer-on-xbox-one-we-suck-at-telling-the-story.aspx

Considering Microsoft already announced their prices will remain at 60$ a game, I doubt that so called engineer is right. Just because companies can sell it to you at a lower price, doesn't mean they will. Often times they won't. Companies get use to raking in 60$ a game, and you will see them keep that price with a death grip.

Microsoft has already proven it has no benevolence toward the consumer, and there is no reason anyone should be falling for this.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Kieran on June 19, 2013, 10:46:33 PM
Quote
It's so [tornado fang]ing plain and boring that it looks like it took no long time to design, while the PS4 is VERY designed.
I find it so odd that some people actually find the Xbone appealing compared to the PS4.

Maybe its that I just don't get how people can find a large cumbersome box more appealing than a far smaller console with a slightly more unique shape.

I just feel the need to point out that besides being slightly smaller and more of a parallelogram in shape than rectangular, the XBoned and the PS4 look almost exactly the same.  ...Take that how you will.

Quote
Considering Microsoft already announced their prices will remain at 60$ a game, I doubt that so called engineer is right. Just because companies can sell it to you at a lower price, doesn't mean they will. Often times they won't.

This is exactly what I'm expecting to happen in the long term.  XBox 360 launch games on XBL are still [tornado fang]ing 50-60 dollars.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on June 19, 2013, 10:52:18 PM
This is exactly what I'm expecting to happen in the long term.  XBox 360 launch games on XBL are still [tornado fang]ing 50-60 dollars.
This is why you shouldn't bother with digital releases on consoles.

It doesn't matter what system you play, its the same either way.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on June 19, 2013, 10:59:48 PM
http://www.vg247.com/2013/06/19/microsoft-to-drop-its-drm-control-with-xbox-one-report/

AHAHA THEY ACTUALLY CAVED

Looks like they were not so stupid after all. They know they will lose a TON of customers from this boneheaded nonsense.

I still want nothing to do with the Kinect though, so until that becomes optional, sorry MS, but no deal.

Besides, the PS4 is STILL cheaper and more powerful. And just LOOKS better. Not like a last minute design based on the designer's old VCR.

To be honest, I was always more a Sony fan. Got a PS1 and PS2 for birthdays, never had an Xbox, and I only bought the 360 because I could actually get it cheaper than the PS4, which was ridiculously priced.

Nowadays though, seems the other way around.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on June 19, 2013, 11:02:07 PM
Oh, what a shame.

I thought they would've stuck to their guns and make a huge mistake that would've cost them everything.

They've still lost a lot of goodwill though.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on June 19, 2013, 11:02:18 PM
Haha, holy crap.  That's actually a shocker.  I suspected that they would hold onto their policies for as long as they could, not cave so quickly.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 19, 2013, 11:08:15 PM
Woo that is amazing they actually did it! XD
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on June 19, 2013, 11:11:44 PM
I didn't see that coming honestly. Somehow I think theres a big caveat here somewhere. I'm not convinced they're done trying to screw us yet.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on June 19, 2013, 11:23:41 PM
Well the Kinect is still there, and the price so far, is still there.

To be honest, I think they just made a business call upon seeing the overwhelming negative feedback towards THEM and positive feedback towards SONY. They didn't want to lose to them so they decided to drop the DRM, although I'm sure they wanted it to stay. But they just wouldn't even come close to competing with the PS4 if they kept it. And they saw that. If we are to believe that Sony spread misinformation to make MS think they were also making a DRM machine, then MS' console was made to counter Sony's, which ended up backfiring when Sony decided to turn around and counter THEM with a DRM free machine. So they had to even the playing field back by removing their DRM, after trying to stick to their guns for a while, and even suggesting those who don't like it should just buy the 360. After all, this means increased development cost now. They still might not make back their expenditures. Since theres the Xboned development, the extra development being put into adjusting the system due to those issues it was having, and now the dev cost of removing the DRM from the planning. Since clearly, that was not going to be the big "everyone's doing it" feature of the next generation.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: VirusChris on June 20, 2013, 12:13:20 AM
I'm shocked honestly, though it did save the One for a bit I'm still going PS4 first... and...

(http://i.imgur.com/oDypZvU.gif)
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on June 20, 2013, 01:05:17 AM
One down, three hundred fifty-nine less reasons NOT to get an Xbox One to go...

(http://i.imgur.com/oDypZvU.gif)
USED GAMES, BITCHES! XD
What game is this by the way?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 20, 2013, 01:08:13 AM
One down, three hundred fifty-nine less reasons NOT to get an Xbox One to go...
USED GAMES, BITCHES! XD
What game is this by the way?
Final Fantasy 15/Verses 13.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Jericho on June 20, 2013, 01:12:28 AM
GAF and the people behind the #PS4noDRM twitter movement that started there are in full on party mode. I don't know how this is going to work out for Microsoft's fortunes (perception is everything in this market and MS even attempting this has to have soured a [tornado fang] load of people buying next gen stuff), but I'm positively thrilled as a gamer to see that our voices were heard.

Now everyone's focusing on Nintendo again because of MS also going full hog and making all of the Xbox One systems region free. THAT was a surprise.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Fxeni on June 20, 2013, 01:15:19 AM
What's the catch?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Kieran on June 20, 2013, 02:03:31 AM
On the region free thing?  Probably the same as Sony.  MICROSOFT isn't going to mandate region-locked content but developers might.

As a whole?  Just because they've turned off the always-online requirement for now doesn't mean they won't reinstate it down the road.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on June 20, 2013, 02:10:53 AM
Final Fantasy 15/Verses 13.

Well, it's not Versus XIII anymore.

Now it's just Final Fantasy XV.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Ahrzayl on June 20, 2013, 02:21:30 AM
Viper, me love you long time for that gif. XD
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on June 20, 2013, 03:37:45 AM
What's the catch?
The spy camera always watching you
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 20, 2013, 03:44:15 AM
The price is still the same and maybe even more since they have to spend time removing that stuff.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on June 20, 2013, 03:46:36 AM
No matter what they do, its still not worth it.

Its really just futile.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Protoman Blues on June 20, 2013, 05:41:50 AM
Like I said earlier, things had to change because they had NO choice.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on June 20, 2013, 06:15:41 AM
Now we can't see how much lower they'll go.

Ride over. :c
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on June 20, 2013, 06:28:44 AM
Now we can't see how much lower they'll go.

Ride over. :c
The ride is never over. mr. Xboned's Wild ride never ends 8D
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on June 20, 2013, 08:33:52 AM
Like I said earlier, things had to change because they had NO choice.

Please elaborate.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on June 20, 2013, 09:38:18 AM
I'm not PB, but I think what he means is similar to what i said earlier. the DRM console was likely a response to the rumor of Sony doing the same. Popularity doesn't mean [parasitic bomb] when there are no other options between the two "big guns". With Sony doing the exact opposite, they HAD to drop the DRM or lose tons of money and clientele to Sony, who wasn't doing it.

It's just common sense business. They had no choise but to drop the DRM in response to Sony not having any.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on June 20, 2013, 09:59:33 AM
So it's a case of monkey-see-monkey-do.

That's just about the worst strategy I've heard.

There's always complaints whenever there's DRM involved (*ahem* Steam). GOG makes a big deal about their "DRM-free" games, and with good reason.

I guess Microsoft can't think for themselves.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on June 20, 2013, 12:34:24 PM
It's also possible Sony "let Microsoft know" that they were doing an equivalent DRM, just to make sure Microsoft went ahead and did it. Then Sony secretly backed off the idea and let Microsoft jump right in and get squashed as a result. At this point, even though Microsoft take sit back, the damage is done and their PR disaster will live in the minds of consumers for a while. A super cold and calculated crushing blow to ensure Sony's market dominance.

Misinformation such as feeding competitor companies, and their corporate spies, false information has been going on since forever. It's certainly possible that is what happened, but we'll never know. If so, then bravo Sony, what a brilliant move.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on June 20, 2013, 10:55:30 PM
Quote from: Don Mattrick
Since unveiling our plans for Xbox One, my team and I have heard directly from many of you, read your comments and listened to your feedback. I would like to take the opportunity today to thank you for your assistance in helping us to reshape the future of Xbox One.

You told us how much you loved the flexibility you have today with games delivered on disc. The ability to lend, share, and resell these games at your discretion is of incredible importance to you. Also important to you is the freedom to play offline, for any length of time, anywhere in the world.
Yea I wonder if the "you're a [tornado fang]ing idiot", "DRM is horseshit", "no gamer gives a [tornado fang] about sports and TV", and anything else in between came across Microsoft... -_- If you want win people over, you should:

- Focus on making it a GAMING PLATFORM
- Cut the TV bullcrap
- Drop Kinect requirement
- Lower the damn price; you're not going to persuade Sony/Nintendo fans from adopting to PS4/Wii U anytime soon with a $500-600 price tag
- Name it something other than "Xbox One" (we get where you're coming at, but it's a stupid name)
- Make the system DRM-free and offline capable form the get-go and not require a patch to do that, you still have plenty of time to undo your stupidity
- Adding to the above, don't ever dare of changing your minds about the DRM and internet requirement midpoint of its life-cycle
- Make it backwards compatible with Xbox 360 games
- Stop bloating Xbox LIVE with ads when people pay for their Gold membership, and stuff that's not really important in general
- And stop making online multiplayer require a quarterly/annual fee, some of us are sick of it
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on June 20, 2013, 11:03:00 PM
So apparently an upset employee at MS' Xbox division made a statement about his woes in regards to the Xbox One.
http://www.heyuguysgaming.com/news/12507/heartbroken-xbox-one-employee-lets-rip-must-read

I couldn't let some of that butthurt nonsense fly, so ill copypaste what I responded over there.


[spoiler]"Microsoft might be a big company, but we at the Xbox division have always been for the gamer."

For the gamer? I find that hard to believe when you impose such harsh restrictions on them. Not to mention you might be "pro gamer" but as far as you developer interactions, you are clearly only pro-Large big budget dev, as indicated by your refusal to let Independent Developers self publish on your system. You realize, i hope, how that makes you seem very much the opposite of "pro gamer". It makes you seem "pro corporation, anti-gamer"




"While publishers have never come right out to us at MS and say “We want you to do something about used gaming” we could hear it in their voices and read it in their numerous public statements."


So you can read minds?




" every attempt to slow down the bleeding was met with much resistance from the gaming community."
"So when you buy a game used you’re hurting developers much more than say a movie studio. "


The problem is it all comes back down to the question of how to handle the sale of my legally purchased property.

A game is my legal property once I buy it. Under the law, I own that copy of the software, and am entitled to do with it as I wish, within the bounds of law. Meaning, I can sell it if I wish. By carefully making it a "license" to use the software, and not actual ownership of the game, you angered many, who buy games for the ridiculous prices of today, and then, cannot simply go and sell it like I would an old toy or CD. yes yes, you were "planning" on setting up some kind of used games market. But the fact is you still had the draconian anti game sharing system in place which made it far too much trouble.




"the best selling games are blockbusters, the highest rated are blockbusters, the most loved are blockbusters."


There's the problem. Stop making movies, and start making games. The market is over saturated with wannabe blockbuster games that all jump on whatever trend developer X started with blockbuster AAA game Z. it leads to bad games that are just interactive movies. They still get 10/10 reviews of course, because of the "artistic vision" (and the deep pockets the developers have to market and pay reviewers)

The main reason one might sell a game, is because one did not like said game. Say i play this game here, and i dislike it. it's not to my taste. so i sell it back, and use the money towards another game.

long story short here, and It's something I believe Reggie of Nintendo USA said as well...

Make better games, and less people will sell them back. A great game is one that will often stay with you. you want to keep the games you consider good.

developers have noone to blame but themselves for the current state of gaming and used games. They make these over budgeted AAA games, which then cost $60 each, for a game that might not even be that good, and then expect people NOT to try and get rid of the game. Make games cheaper, and better quality, and there will be less monetary issues with Developers. They don't HAVE to make every game a shot at glory with a high budget movie experience. that's not what made half of those companies what they are. What made Capcom? a cliche'd fighting game and a game about a blue robot fighting a mad scientist.

if they sink more and more money into games, and then require massive sales to recoup the cost, they should not be surprised when the don't make back the money.

let them set up some kind of used games market. I have NO problem selling the game back to the developer. a "refund" if you would.

yet, i don't see them trying something like that. Why? because they don't want games to be re-sold at ALL. OR returned.



"When your family member accesses any of your games, they’re placed into a special demo mode. This demo mode in most cases would be the full game with a 15-45 minute timer and in some cases an hour. This allowed the person to play the game, get familiar with it then make a purchase if they wanted to."

I can go to a store with a display for a demo. or just go on xbox live and Dl the demo there, which many games do. I don;t need a friend to buy the game to share a demo with me. people want to share THE FULL GAME, NOT THE DEMO. It's a tradition since the very first video game consoles and cartridges. If a friend wants to listen to your CD, you are not going to tell him, 'here's a 15 second sample of the songs. if you want to listen to it, why don't you buy one?' No, you just lend him the damn CD.



"There weren’t many models of this system already in the wild other than Sony’s horrendous game sharing implementation"
I hope you don't expect me to take you seriously when your only example is 'OH THE TERRIBLE VERSION THE COMPETITOR HAS!'



"we were building a natural social network with Xbox One in itself that didn’t require gamers to open their laptops/tablets to post to their other friends nor did they need to wrestle with keyboard add-ons. Each Xbox Live account would have a full “home space” in which they could post their highest scores, show off their best Game DVR moments, what they’ve watched via Xbox TV"

And that's another problem. Nobody asked for that. We just want a system that can play videogames. if you want to make a social network/tv multimedia device, the JUST MAKE A MULTIMEDIA DEVICE all this extra nonsense with the TV/SPORTS and the Kinect shoots the price of the console up by 100$ for features I will never use. Understand the problem?





"We at Microsoft have amazing plans for Xbox One that will make it an amazing experience for both gamers and entertainment consumers alike. I stand by the belief that Playstation 4 is Xbox 360 part 2,"


You say that like being the 360 was a bad thing. The 360 was a fine game console.




"while Xbox One is trying to revolutionize entertainment consumption."


Nobody wants an entertainment revolution. all we want is something that can play videogames. If I want an entertainment box, i'll use a PC or TV or multimedia box.



"For people who don’t want these amazing additions, like Don said we have a console for that and it’s called Xbox 360."

that's very rude, and infantile, and Don sounded very much like an upset child when he said that. because first of all, the 360 will not last forever. Once the Xbox One and PS4 come out, developers will eventually stop making games for it. Yeah thats nice. 'stick to this dead console if you don't like the new one' VERY "pro-gamer" of you!

And, it's funny you should say that, actually,  Because you described the PS4 as "Xbox 360 Part 2" then told us to 'stick to the 360' which is exactly what people will do. stick to the 360 "part 2" that is the PS4.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on June 20, 2013, 11:12:11 PM
Way to shoot yourself in the foot, Microsoft.

Mr. Xboned's wild ride never ends! 8D

By the way, I read that aloud to Mabel.  Twas fun. 
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 20, 2013, 11:16:08 PM
That poor poor delusional guy.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on June 20, 2013, 11:21:09 PM

Mr. Xboned's wild ride never ends! 8D

See? Told you!

Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 20, 2013, 11:36:46 PM
Way to shoot yourself in the foot, Microsoft.

Mr. Xboned's wild ride never ends! 8D

By the way, I read that aloud to Mabel.  Twas fun. 
I'm interested to know her reaction to it.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on June 20, 2013, 11:49:41 PM
She just stared at me, then fell asleep when I went on a tirade about what makes a good game.  Then, I went outside, came back in, and she's still sleeping.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 20, 2013, 11:52:47 PM
Guess she found it boring.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on June 20, 2013, 11:56:25 PM
Mabel needs to play more games. :P
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on June 21, 2013, 12:00:48 AM
have her play nintendogs
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on July 01, 2013, 07:08:54 PM
http://allthingsd.com/20130701/exclusive-microsofts-entertainment-head-don-mattrick-leaving-to-take-top-role-possibly-ceo-at-zynga/?mod=tech

THE RIDE NEVER ENDS
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Align on July 01, 2013, 08:38:42 PM
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/125527-Xbox-One-Only-Accepts-Specific-Headsets-Microsoft-Explains-Why
Get their headset/get their adapter/get bent.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on July 02, 2013, 12:39:12 AM
I don't see why they needed to change the headset adaptor.  An audio jack is an audio jack is an audio jack.  I can see using USB as a jack, as that still keeps options open for cheaper headsets, but why the hell did they feel the need to have some exclusive port in which only their headset can fit?

I like my accessories to be multipurpose.  I want to take my headset from my computer, to my cheap MP3 player, to my iPad, to the radio, and back again.  I want my auxiliary speakers to do the same! 

Screw your special port, Microsoft.  I'm sure you have the parts to fit it.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on July 02, 2013, 12:50:33 AM
If it wasn't already clear: Microsoft is trying to take you for all you are worth.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on July 02, 2013, 01:18:24 AM
Their new methods are just becoming more and more inane.

Keep unloading that clip into your foot, Microsoft.  Here, let's give you a gun that's belt-fed.  This way, you won't need to keep reloading the clips.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on July 02, 2013, 01:19:17 AM
Like a Machine Gun?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on July 02, 2013, 01:20:47 AM
Just like a machine gun.  Now, they can shoot their foot on automatic! 8D
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on July 11, 2013, 07:44:24 PM
The ride never ends

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAyapQayGOw[/youtube]

http://www.change.org/petitions/xbox-one-give-us-back-the-original-xbox-one

http://www.change.org/petitions/microsoft-give-us-back-the-xbox-one-we-were-promised-at-e3-2

I really want to get of Mr. Xbone's wild ride...
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Reaperoid on July 11, 2013, 07:48:07 PM
They think they can get reformed game prices by doing this? Yeahhhh sureeee
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Protoman Blues on July 11, 2013, 08:22:46 PM
My response...

(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/workflow.png)
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on July 11, 2013, 08:27:49 PM
.....What the [tornado fang], just what the [tornado fang]! XD
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on July 11, 2013, 11:58:45 PM
Who's [tornado fang]ing and what are they [tornado fang]ing with to make online petitions demanding Xboned to go back to this DRM bullshit again?! o-O
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on July 12, 2013, 12:08:02 AM
note, some of the signatures ARE trolls. But the fact that there are so many at all...
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on July 12, 2013, 12:20:29 AM
Where's that Michael Jackson popcorn gif when you need it?

Not to mention the capability of copy-pasting the URL while using a tablet...
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Fxeni on July 12, 2013, 12:34:58 AM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lw7qn58NxG1qii6tmo1_500.gif)
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on July 17, 2013, 04:53:10 AM
I'll just drop this here

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/07/16/forza-motorsport-5-requires-one-time-internet-connection
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on July 17, 2013, 04:59:00 AM
THE RIDE NEVER ENDS! 8D
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on July 17, 2013, 09:58:10 AM
And we're pretty much right back where we started.

Sorry netless bros, and military bros. Have this middle finger instead of a game.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: VirusChris on July 21, 2013, 10:53:17 PM
How can someone constantly shot themselves in the feet that much? It's inhuman! Are they masochist?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Mirby on July 22, 2013, 07:05:46 AM
IT NEVER ENDS
(http://i.imgur.com/SzDFe6d.jpg)
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on July 22, 2013, 07:07:43 AM
IT NEVER ENDS
(http://i.imgur.com/SzDFe6d.jpg)

Oh come on that's just disgraceful.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on July 22, 2013, 07:08:20 AM
I don't get it.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Protoman Blues on July 22, 2013, 07:09:41 AM
I don't get it.

That's not Spawn
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on July 22, 2013, 07:12:21 AM
That's not Spawn
Ah right. -u-'
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on July 22, 2013, 07:55:40 AM
Why the hell did that thing get so many likes? Are the people that oblivious as well?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Mr. Haxwell on July 22, 2013, 08:40:08 AM
Why the hell did that thing get so many likes? Are the people that oblivious as well?

I think they only liked that, because that fake Spawn (who's Spider Man to be precise), is in the picture. Which is plain stupid, IMO.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on July 22, 2013, 02:52:43 PM
So, black-suited Spiderman is now being confused for Spawn?  Fail.

Also, the ride.  It never ends.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on July 22, 2013, 05:29:59 PM
(who's Spider Man to be precise),

oh my word I never knew that
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on July 25, 2013, 01:35:23 AM
Apparently they backpedaled on their anti-indie policies as well just today.

Still not sure I want to jump into bed with them yet though, even if they're now allowing self publishing. It's a nice gesture for sure, especially with the promise that eventually all their consoles will be dev kits in some way. However, we know Microsoft never intended to do this to begin with so I have to wonder how supportive they actually are or if this promise will be followed through.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on July 25, 2013, 01:51:29 AM
Apparently they backpedaled on their anti-indie policies as well just today.

Still not sure I want to jump into bed with them yet though, even if they're now allowing self publishing. It's a nice gesture for sure, especially with the promise that eventually all their consoles will be dev kits in some way. However, we know Microsoft never intended to do this to begin with so I have to wonder how supportive they actually are or if this promise will be followed through.

I still don't trust them.

I'll never jump into bed with Microsoft, let alone have them take my virginity by purchasing a Xbox One!
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Fxeni on July 25, 2013, 02:04:28 AM
If there's one thing I like about the Xbone, it's the controller. It feels nice, and the DPad doesn't suck.

That's pretty much it, though.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Hypershell on July 25, 2013, 02:17:08 AM
Apparently they backpedaled on their anti-indie policies as well just today.

Still not sure I want to jump into bed with them yet though, even if they're now allowing self publishing. It's a nice gesture for sure, especially with the promise that eventually all their consoles will be dev kits in some way. However, we know Microsoft never intended to do this to begin with so I have to wonder how supportive they actually are or if this promise will be followed through.
I wouldn't.  The fans bitched and Microsoft didn't care.  Microsoft got up and told the world that they are expected to give up their rights to packaged products simply because Microsoft says so, without offering any real benefit to the end user (as actual digital platforms on the PC do).  Microsoft is only backing down now because the collective might of their competition and the news media forced their hand.  The moment the rest of the world stops breathing down their neck, what stops them from pulling this crap again?

Not that Sony and Nintendo don't have their own iron-fisted moments, but the sheer scope of the "FU" that Microsoft was preparing with the XBOne was unprecedented.  The practices they were putting into place were long held as questionable for even an individual game; to base an entire platform on that was ludicrous.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on July 25, 2013, 02:24:51 AM
Its too late for me. First impressions are EVERYTHING, and they blew it. I already decided on PS4, which is also better and cheaper.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Kieran on July 25, 2013, 02:32:07 AM
Yeah, same here.  I don't care for Sony cramming social media into everything, but at least they made a damn good first impression with the console itself.

...You know, once they actually showed the damn thing, that is.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on July 26, 2013, 11:04:51 PM
I still don't trust them.

I'll never jump into bed with Microsoft, let alone have them take my virginity by purchasing a Xbox One!

Well, actually, I was talking from the developer point of of view. I don't know if I want to publish any games on the Xbox One being an indie developer.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on July 26, 2013, 11:16:03 PM
Looks like they're having second thoughts about self-publishing. (http://www.trueachievements.com/n14081/microsoft-to-allow-selfpublishing-on-xbox-one.htm) Too late for that though...

Whoops, beaten to the punch.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Hypershell on July 27, 2013, 06:45:09 AM
Well, actually, I was talking from the developer point of of view. I don't know if I want to publish any games on the Xbox One being an indie developer.
Somehow, this strikes me as relevant:

(http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/9700/utra.jpg)
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on July 27, 2013, 06:56:29 AM
OH GOD SETH WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on July 27, 2013, 05:25:04 PM
OH GOD SETH WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU
He's going to court. XD
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: VixyNyan on July 30, 2013, 09:32:33 PM
OH GOD SETH WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU

If you played the games, you would know. Also 3:10. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWPWfn6XkVg#t=54s)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWPWfn6XkVg[/youtube]
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on July 30, 2013, 09:41:58 PM
I actually did play the game. Well, I played Super, not Arcade Edition.

I remembered at the last second that he did, in fact, boast that attire. -u-'

But how it appears in PxZ still seems... off to me. Probably because I hate how he's drawn there.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: VixyNyan on August 11, 2013, 02:44:29 AM
(http://i.minus.com/itabux1WyOpCQ.gif)
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on August 11, 2013, 02:59:26 AM
Vixy.

I love you. XD
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on August 11, 2013, 05:30:18 AM
I highly doubt anyone on eBay would buy one unless they really enjoy helmet touch. XD

Let's prepare a landfill for this travesty of a gaming console right next to the E.T. cartridges and pretend it never existed.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Protoman Blues on August 11, 2013, 09:58:54 AM
(http://i.minus.com/itabux1WyOpCQ.gif)

Love you Vixy!  <3
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on August 12, 2013, 12:52:44 AM
Let's prepare a landfill for this travesty of a gaming console right next to the E.T. cartridges and pretend it never existed.

How wasteful.

I propose they get shot out into space.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 12, 2013, 12:57:40 AM
How wasteful.

I propose they get shot out into space.
Too much money, why don't we just donate them to Mythbusters for experiment fodder.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on August 12, 2013, 12:59:01 AM
Hey that works.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 12, 2013, 01:00:44 AM
Either that or take them to a place so they can be melted down to make something practical like paper weights or some equivalent.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on August 12, 2013, 03:20:24 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/MQEfSwS.jpg)
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Mr. Haxwell on August 12, 2013, 11:46:13 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/MQEfSwS.jpg)

Best XBone use, ever. owob
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Protoman Blues on August 15, 2013, 01:12:32 AM
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay  -_- (http://www.blisteredthumbs.net/2013/08/xbox-one-launch-territories-are-being-reduced-from-21-to-13/)
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on August 15, 2013, 01:14:07 AM
IT NEVER ENDS 8D
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 15, 2013, 01:16:35 AM
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay  -_- (http://www.blisteredthumbs.net/2013/08/xbox-one-launch-territories-are-being-reduced-from-21-to-13/)
I think it's time to make another it doesn't affect Misdreavus avatar. XD
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on August 15, 2013, 01:44:04 AM
I'm still puzzled as to why Japan is neglected.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on August 15, 2013, 01:45:32 AM
Because they've shown twice now that they hate Xbox, Sony wins over in Japan where Microsoft wins here.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 15, 2013, 01:56:27 AM
Because Microsoft doesn't make card games.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on August 17, 2013, 01:13:38 AM
From 21 to 13? Is it time kids to start drinking now? 8D

Posted on: August 14, 2013, 08:07:04 PM
I doubt anyone would care at this point, but word is that Xboned is not going to require Kinect anymore.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on August 17, 2013, 01:18:11 AM
I'll believe it when I see it.

This backpedal path is getting pretty worn.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on August 17, 2013, 02:39:02 AM
I'll believe it when I see it.
*ahem! (http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130813/10472024154/microsoft-folds-again-xbox-one-will-now-work-without-kinect-enabled.shtml)* Sorry I could bring up the source sooner; was forced to use my Wii since my brother is using my only 360 controller.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Mirby on August 20, 2013, 11:29:34 AM
The Xbox One

A Guide in How Not To Console

Posted on: August 17, 2013, 04:21:45 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/uOQt3wC.png)

IT NEVER ENDS

the image is from about 1:37 of this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRMqE9yPDpc)
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Kieran on August 20, 2013, 01:32:26 PM
Uh... what am I supposed to be looking for, here?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Mirby on August 20, 2013, 08:33:43 PM
official Xbox channel shows a video of the PS4 version of Watch Dogs

those are PS4 button prompts, not Xbox One button prompts.

if this forum didn't resize images it would actually look better
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 20, 2013, 08:49:14 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! XD


......I got to stop laughing like that.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Fxeni on August 20, 2013, 11:55:35 PM
I know why that is... but I can't say why. You can probably guess why they're doing that though.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on August 21, 2013, 12:00:29 AM
I know why that is... but I can't say why. You can probably guess why they're doing that though.

I'd say they're developing for the PS3/4 primarily and the Xbox version is a port.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Mirby on August 21, 2013, 12:37:26 AM
Did I mention that they tried to cover up the button prompts in the video itself? That frame is only visible for a split second; the rest of the time it's visible, the button icons are covered up and hidden.

It's less the fact that it's the PS4 version (for obvious reasons) and more the fact that they tried to cover up the fact that it's the PS4 version.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on August 21, 2013, 02:05:50 AM
> Xbox YouTube channel
> Channel uploads a Watch_Dogs video of the PlayStation version

brain.sh has crashed. Please contact your system administrator. No one is sorry for the inconsistancy.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on September 02, 2013, 11:20:21 PM
I'll ask this here since it's Xbox related.

We recently got a new TV at my house.

But I noticed that my 360 games looked like [parasitic bomb] on it, because Im using Composite Cables, meant for a CRT TV. My 360 in general, is a first gen 360 Arcade version.

So when i looked at the back for the HDMI port to buy HDMI cables,

Surprise surprise, it doesn't have an HDMI port.

So, what now?

I was suggested to buy Component cables instead. I was thinking some kind of HDMi converter or something.

Really dunno what to do here. Amazon seems to have Component cables for the 360 i can get. Should I just go with that?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on September 02, 2013, 11:35:56 PM
Component cables are pretty much just as good as HDMI, in this case at least. No need for an HDMI converter.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on September 02, 2013, 11:55:55 PM
Figured as much.

unrelated but slightly related question: where the hell can I find a hub that can support those? I mean, my TV only has 1 input, so I need a switchbox for my Wii and 360, (and any other system I get here on out) I have a Composite switch hub, where everything is currently hooked up to.

bonus points would be a hub that can support both Composite AND component, while being Component itself, but I'd be fine with just a Component hub, since I can leave the other stuff hooked to composite. (Ps2, DVD player, etc)

but I can't seem to find anything online. i get totally unrelated [parasitic bomb].

EDIT: Ok nevermind, I'm finding them now.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on September 04, 2013, 05:56:20 AM
http://www.screwattack.com/news/xbox-one-capable-supporting-eight-controllers-once

Discuss.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: VixyNyan on September 04, 2013, 05:58:53 AM
http://www.trueachievements.com/n14581/use-an-xbox-one-and-xbox-360-simultaneously.htm
Now, this is a good thing if you are downloading plenty of files on one system, while playing on the other. ~w~
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on September 04, 2013, 06:00:35 AM
Wait a minute...

Are these...

Good things about the Xbox One...?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on September 04, 2013, 06:03:26 AM
I think the 8 controller thing is unnecessary with the emphasis of online play and stuff.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on September 04, 2013, 06:05:30 AM
Wait a minute...

Are these...

Good things about the Xbox One...?

Yeah, what's wrong with you people? Back to dishing out dirt on Xbox One!!
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Kieran on September 04, 2013, 06:18:15 AM
I think the 8 controller thing is unnecessary with the emphasis of online play and stuff.

Plus, what major publisher these days wants to let eight people play one copy of a game, instead of making them buy eight separate copies?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on September 04, 2013, 06:21:36 AM
Yeah, what's wrong with you people? Back to dishing out dirt on Xbox One!!
Right-o!

[spoiler]Cyndaquil uses Sand-Attack!
Xbox One's reputation has been lowered.

8D[/spoiler]

Plus, what major publisher these days wants to let eight people play one copy of a game, instead of making them buy eight separate copies?
Party games...?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on September 04, 2013, 06:25:32 AM
>implying the Xbox One will have any party games worth playing

>When Smash for the Wii-U is coming out

>As well as the next mariokart

That said, i haven't seen any way to buy Wii-U gamepads...

hope Smash-U supports multiple control types. Wiimotes would be greatly appreciated. or at least the Wii-U Classic controller. That's much easier to get.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Kieran on September 04, 2013, 06:29:44 AM
Oh, I'm sure it will.  Considering they used just about every possible control type for Brawl.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on September 04, 2013, 07:35:43 AM
>implying the Xbox One will have any party games worth playing

>When Smash for the Wii-U is coming out

>As well as the next mariokart

That said, i haven't seen any way to buy Wii-U gamepads...

hope Smash-U supports multiple control types. Wiimotes would be greatly appreciated. or at least the Wii-U Classic controller. That's much easier to get.
Wasn't implying there will, it's just a thought. :\

Hoping it will work with the old Wii's Classic Controllers too since I already have the original and Pro versions of that controller.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on November 05, 2013, 05:17:38 AM
They're the same [tornado fang]ing controller save for the shell of course it'll work.

EDIT: Oh wait you meant the Classic Controller as in not the Wii U Pro Controller.

Well I assume if they're doing what they did with brawl we'll even get the senseless Sideways Wiimote or Wiimote + Nunchuk controller options too.

Posted on: September 04, 2013, 01:23:08 AM
So this little tidbit came out. (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/436689/forza-motorsport-5-car-pass-to-cost-4999/)

The ride hasn't ended yet and we're so close to release
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on November 05, 2013, 05:36:36 AM
Yay, another hill!  WEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Also, 3expensive5me
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Kieran on November 05, 2013, 01:33:05 PM
You say that as if it hasn't been pulled by major publishers on current systems.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on November 07, 2013, 06:19:07 AM
[youtube]sHjBscMA0cU[/youtube]

PFHAHAHA!
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Align on November 07, 2013, 12:48:00 PM
Comment says "The users xbox one console won't power down, they're referring to the host server. Ex: mmo players, when a message pops up on the screen saying something like "server maintenance in 15 minutes" the server will go down, interrupting matches."
Is that it?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on November 08, 2013, 01:26:01 AM
It does say it will reboot though.
That's kinda shitty still.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: The Great Gonzo on November 08, 2013, 10:39:59 PM
ing-nerds-video]THE RIDE NEVER ENDS (http://besturlonhere.tumblr.com/post/66384296667/enjoy-your-nerd-box-you-[tornado fang)
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on November 08, 2013, 10:50:35 PM
Classy as always, Microsoft.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on November 08, 2013, 11:05:21 PM
To be fair the Wii U needed a Day one patch out of the box as well. But at least that one didn't require you to connect to play games.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Kieran on November 09, 2013, 03:29:41 AM
This isn't news.  We knew this already.

The day-one patch patches out the mandatory internet check-ins, which the console can't actually do now because Microsoft has decided against implementing it for now.  How long that'll last is anyone's guess, but--

tl;dr they told us this was going to happen months ago.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: The Great Gonzo on November 09, 2013, 04:06:10 AM
Oh. Well, in that case: *dope-slaps self*
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on November 22, 2013, 09:22:02 AM
THE RIDE NEVER ENDS!

Unboxings are starting, and already failures are coming in.

Particularly, aside from consoles with hardware failures, the day one update seems to be failing, and they pulled the offline update file from their website, because people's consoles were getting banned for using it.

http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/11/21/xbox-one-user-does-emergency-offline-update-as-instructed-gets-banned/

IT NEVER EEEENDS
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Rin on November 22, 2013, 09:50:42 AM
To be fair, PS4s also had a lot of har5dware failures, broken HDMI ports etc.
But that MIGHT be caused, as the rumor says, by sabotage.
Sabotage by people who weren't paid or treated badly while they worked on putting the consoles together.
But I dunno how much of that is true.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Protoman Blues on November 22, 2013, 09:52:00 AM
So you're banned for doing what they told you to do?

Neat.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: VixyNyan on November 22, 2013, 07:58:46 PM
Xbox Juan you say?

(http://i.imgur.com/vVXb5kp.jpg)
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on November 22, 2013, 08:19:10 PM
Xbox Juan you say?

(http://i.imgur.com/vVXb5kp.jpg)
Si. 8D

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKlsf50y0m4[/youtube]
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Protoman Blues on November 22, 2013, 09:11:10 PM
Xbox Juan you say?

(http://i.imgur.com/vVXb5kp.jpg)

Love you Vixy!  8)
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Protoman Blues on November 22, 2013, 11:37:40 PM
It Eats Discs (http://kotaku.com/microsoft-has-no-clear-solution-for-xbox-one-disc-drive-1469918988)
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on November 22, 2013, 11:41:41 PM
Wow that has to be the exact opposite of printing money.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on November 22, 2013, 11:46:01 PM
The ride... IT NEVER ENDS
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on November 22, 2013, 11:56:46 PM
The Xbone doesn't disappoint, quality entertainment right there.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Protoman Blues on November 22, 2013, 11:57:12 PM
Under normal circumstances, this is to be expected. It's a small number.

Having said that, this is definitely what you do not want to see during the holiday season where people are deciding between the two systems with the past memories of 360 failures still fresh in some minds.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on November 22, 2013, 11:58:10 PM
Under normal circumstances, this is to be expected. It's a small number.

Having said that, this is definitely what you do not want to see during the holiday season where people are deciding between the two systems with the past memories of 360 failures still fresh in some minds.
Yeah I agree, especially since it currently can't be fixed.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on November 23, 2013, 03:58:42 AM
Yeah I agree, especially since it currently can't be fixed.
The RRoD on the 360 or the Xboned making confetti out of the Call of Duty discs? I never had a RRoD happen with the S(lim) model.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on November 23, 2013, 03:59:44 AM
The RRoD on the 360 or the Xboned making confetti out of the Call of Duty discs? I never had a RRoD happen with the S(lim) model.
The confetti of course.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on November 23, 2013, 04:14:57 AM
Ah, got cha. Well I hope this teaches people a lesson: don't buy an Xboned.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on November 24, 2013, 12:01:44 AM
I think this is worthy of a repost.

(http://i.minus.com/itabux1WyOpCQ.gif)
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Protoman Blues on November 24, 2013, 06:00:37 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu7jHLsW-5s[/youtube]

 -AC
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on November 24, 2013, 06:08:16 PM
Well, since the discs are undamaged, it doesn't technically eat the discs.  The drive itself fails to work and you have that horrible death rattle.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on November 24, 2013, 06:35:53 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu7jHLsW-5s[/youtube]

 -AC

Okay, that last one was especially hilarious. XD
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Fxeni on November 25, 2013, 02:19:05 AM
I'm uhh... absolutely not surprised in the least. Lets just leave it at that.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Protoman Blues on November 25, 2013, 02:42:41 AM
I'm uhh... absolutely not surprised in the least. Lets just leave it at that.

Oh man, if only you could tell these stories!
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Kieran on November 25, 2013, 01:41:19 PM
Apparently Microsoft just waves hardware past QC when they're on a deadline.  At least the 360 was capable of reading discs out of the box, even if it red-ringed later.  But complete mechanical failure of the BD drive out of the box is a little much.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on November 25, 2013, 10:58:26 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/kGouPEK.jpg)

Who [tornado fang]ing wrote this?

Also apparently this is because you cannot swear on skype. (http://mobile.twitter.com/getB3NT/status/404963267896172544)

They'll ban you for swearing in an uploaded video as well. (http://forums.xbox.com/xbox_forums/xbox_support/xbox_one_support/f/4274/t/1628408.aspx?PageIndex=1)

Very classy, Microsoft.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on November 25, 2013, 11:03:49 PM
THE RIDE NEVER [tornado fang]ing ENDS!

Seriously, though, that is petty, and that grammar is horrible.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on November 25, 2013, 11:04:58 PM
Guess they're trying to set an example for their prepubescent CoD fanbase?  Also they need to learn how to grammar, that sentence makes no sense.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Protoman Blues on November 25, 2013, 11:08:00 PM
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/197h20upy38tkjpg/ku-xlarge.jpg)

In. deed.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on November 25, 2013, 11:17:21 PM
You would think Microsoft wouldn't have this problem this often. :\
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on November 26, 2013, 12:02:17 AM
This is really amusing.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on November 26, 2013, 12:15:39 AM
According to the second link it seems the ban is temporary, still that's really stupid to ban without a strike system not that the idea of going that far isn't stupid in the first place.  Especially in a private conversation on Skype.  Seriously Microsoft's game division would be better run by monkeys at this point.  
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: VixyNyan on November 26, 2013, 12:42:37 AM
The words are quickly spreading around. ~w~

(http://i.imgur.com/59squHf.jpg)
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Protoman Blues on November 26, 2013, 12:46:08 AM
It's like the new "Protoman Fence"  8D
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on November 26, 2013, 12:46:42 AM
It's like the new "Protoman Fence"  8D
Oh god it is. XD
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on November 26, 2013, 01:13:40 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/kGouPEK.jpg)

Who [tornado fang]ing wrote this
Um....

[spoiler](http://i.imgur.com/466yD3D.jpg)[/spoiler]

Also apparently this is because you cannot swear on skype. (http://mobile.twitter.com/getB3NT/status/404963267896172544)

They'll ban you for swearing in an uploaded video as well. (http://forums.xbox.com/xbox_forums/xbox_support/xbox_one_support/f/4274/t/1628408.aspx?PageIndex=1)

Very classy, Microsoft.
So they're buddy-buddy with the FCC? Cool.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Fxeni on November 26, 2013, 01:21:17 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/kGouPEK.jpg)

Who [tornado fang]ing wrote this?

Haha, I haven't seen that one! That's fantastic!
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Protoman Blues on November 26, 2013, 01:33:18 AM
Haha, I haven't seen that one! That's fantastic!

It really doesn't Xbox Live Gold sense to make of use
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on November 26, 2013, 01:53:45 AM
Just when I think Microsoft can't get any worse, THEY KEEP PROVING ME WRONG.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on November 26, 2013, 01:58:17 AM
Even if those things spontaneously catch on fire I bet it would still get worse than that.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on November 26, 2013, 01:59:40 AM
There is always lower, and worse, and more inane!
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Protoman Blues on November 26, 2013, 02:01:24 AM
The other funny thing about it is that it says "Choose something else to play" when Skype is not a game.  8D
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on November 26, 2013, 02:11:44 AM
It can be a game. 8D
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on November 26, 2013, 02:13:40 AM
The other funny thing about it is that it says "Choose something else to play" when Skype is not a game.  8D
Yeah that is funny. XD
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: The Great Gonzo on November 28, 2013, 01:26:01 PM
*violent gagging* (http://yunghoot.tumblr.com/post/68313716370)
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on November 28, 2013, 03:24:53 PM
*violent gagging* (http://yunghoot.tumblr.com/post/68313716370)
Should I get the torches, pitch forks, and violent feminists?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: The Great Gonzo on November 28, 2013, 03:36:47 PM
May need a few gallons of bleach afterwards.

I sincerely hope that this is just one dudebro in the company unleashing years of pent-up, passive-aggressive vitriol and not what Microsoft as a whole thinks of women.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on November 28, 2013, 03:40:47 PM
May need a few gallons of bleach afterwards.

I sincerely hope that this is just one dudebro in the company unleashing years of pent-up, passive-aggressive vitriol and not what Microsoft as a whole thinks of women.
I hope so, but aren't those things supposed to be checked?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Hypershell on December 03, 2013, 02:54:48 AM
I do find it sexist to assume that a one-sided gaming appeal in a relationship works only on the appeal-to-men-appease-to-women angle.  But it's just AS sexist when the audience does it as it is when Microsoft does it: The green text is swappable.  For as completely idiotic and transparent as that letter is (I can only hope it is not meant to be taken that seriously, but with Microsoft you never know), there is no reason a woman cannot send it to a man; our own assumptions are the only thing that says otherwise.

Gaming's appeal to the sexes is not a matter of whether or not women can match up to some male benchmark that every man automatically hits; I know couples where the woman is into video games and the guy could give two shits.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on December 03, 2013, 05:19:56 AM
For the record, a friend of mine is utterly confused by my taste in games, and my Backloggery (should I get around to making one) would send him into conniptions.

"Oh my god, you played and beat THAT?"

In regards to that letter thing, I'm suspecting a hoax.  I'll need to hunt it down and see if I can find it from the source.  If so, then stay classy, Microsoft.

QuickEdit: Found their "doctor's note." Close enough.

Stay classy, Microsoft.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on December 19, 2013, 07:31:29 PM
IIIIT NEEEEEVEEEER

EEEEEEENDS

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Xbox-One-24-Hour-Check-DRM-Returns-During-Killer-Instinct-Tournament-61114.html
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on December 19, 2013, 07:38:14 PM
Man that's just too hilarious in a horrible way. XD
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on December 19, 2013, 07:39:29 PM
Wow.  Just wow.

I can't wait for another episode.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on December 19, 2013, 07:57:59 PM
At a time like this, where's my bag of popcorn...? ::)
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on January 31, 2014, 06:35:52 AM
http://content.microsoftstore.com/en-us/offers/thewestchester?WT.mc_id=PromoEmail_XboxTradeIn_BM_1-30-14_Hero_FullEmail#offer-trade-console

For a limited time, bring in your PS3, Xbox 360 S or Xbox 360 E and receive $100 of Microsoft retail store credit.

It never ends! XD
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on January 31, 2014, 06:39:08 AM
Hooray!

For a while there, I was starting to think that perhaps the ride was over and things were going swimmingly.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on January 31, 2014, 06:44:39 AM
Not Xbox One related but I feel this should be shown here.

http://kotaku.com/windows-8-update-will-bring-back-the-desktop-by-defaul-1512767506?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Facebook&utm_source=Kotaku_Facebook&utm_medium=Socialflow
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on January 31, 2014, 09:44:46 PM
http://content.microsoftstore.com/en-us/offers/thewestchester?WT.mc_id=PromoEmail_XboxTradeIn_BM_1-30-14_Hero_FullEmail#offer-trade-console

For a limited time, bring in your PS3, Xbox 360 S or Xbox 360 E and receive $100 of Microsoft retail store credit.

It never ends! XD
Well [tornado fang] that, I need $100 off a PS3 for myself. And who in the right mind would give away their Xbox 360 S/E for an Xboned?

Not Xbox One related but I feel this should be shown here.

http://kotaku.com/windows-8-update-will-bring-back-the-desktop-by-defaul-1512767506?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Facebook&utm_source=Kotaku_Facebook&utm_medium=Socialflow
So we finally have a reason to upgrade to Windows 8 even though there has been third-party programs (Start8, Start Menu 8, etc.) that has around doing that LONG before Microsoft implemented a start menu to Windows 8 since the OS launched? Cool.
But I'm sticking to Windows 7 Ultimate.
Title: 5-year-old hacks dad's Xbox account
Post by: Quickman on April 05, 2014, 01:53:39 AM
Just when you think it could end...

IT NEVER ENDS! (http://www.wgal.com/technology/5-year-old-boy-hacks-dad-s-Xbox-account/25323868) 8D
Title: Re: 5-year-old hacks dad's Xbox account
Post by: Fxeni on April 05, 2014, 02:22:20 AM
Just when you think it could end...

IT NEVER ENDS! (http://www.wgal.com/technology/5-year-old-boy-hacks-dad-s-Xbox-account/25323868) 8D

That's... pretty sad.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on April 05, 2014, 03:32:47 AM
Damn, I was gonna post that when I saw it own Yahoo. And really, he gets free games and subscription to Xbox must rip you off $60/year LIVE for a year for this? Pfft.

Also this bit of news (https://games.yahoo.com/news/xbox-one-soon-add-key-feature-gamers-clamoring-210513826.html) about external drives.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on April 05, 2014, 03:38:02 AM
The internal harddrive can't be removed or serviced by the consumer?

That sounds like a challenge! *gets out the screwdrivers*
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on April 05, 2014, 03:59:01 AM
The internal harddrive can't be removed or serviced by the consumer?

That sounds like a challenge! *gets out the screwdrivers*
This week on Video Game Console Autopsy... 8D
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Kieran on April 05, 2014, 07:41:44 AM
Specifically, they just don't WANT you to do so.  The hard drive can be physically accessed, but unlike the PS4's, it's buried deep in the system and it's a pain in the ass to get to.  Also opening the console in any way voids the warranty but that should be obvious.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Archer on May 13, 2014, 10:51:06 PM
http://news.xbox.com/2014/05/xbox-delivering-more-choices (http://news.xbox.com/2014/05/xbox-delivering-more-choices)

So a Kinect-less Xbox One is actually happening for the same price as the PS4.

top lel

(http://i.imgur.com/jdNedbb.png)
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on May 13, 2014, 10:53:52 PM
The ride never...
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on May 13, 2014, 11:39:40 PM
Truly in full damage control mode.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on May 14, 2014, 12:37:44 AM
Last weekend, I was wondering about the Xbone, as it's been a while.  For a moment, I thought that perhaps the ride did end.  Perhaps there was nothing else.  Perhaps it reached a point where there was nothing else to say about it, and perhaps it would just go quietly into the night.

Thank goodness I was wrong!  Weeeee, another hill! 8D
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 14, 2014, 12:53:23 AM
Ah this is so ironic.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 14, 2014, 01:33:13 AM
Shocking...
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Archer on May 14, 2014, 09:05:27 AM
Also: (http://edition.cnn.com/2014/05/13/tech/gaming-gadgets/microsoft-xbox-price/)
Quote
In a post Tuesday morning, Microsoft also announced the Xbox One and older Xbox 360 console will no longer require a Live Gold subscription, which cost $60 a year, to access streaming apps like Netflix, Hulu Plus, YouTube and HBO Go.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on May 14, 2014, 09:17:18 AM
Now no one can Xbox Live Gold is required to play this game.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on May 14, 2014, 09:20:28 AM
People shouldn't have had to pay extra to use those in the first place. Considering you already pay to use Netflix, Hulu and such.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 14, 2014, 12:28:23 PM
So XBox Live Gold has essentially become Playstation Plus then? Heh, neat!
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Mr. Haxwell on May 14, 2014, 01:00:14 PM
Looks like the procrastinating pricks are finally doing something useful for themselves.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Flame on May 16, 2014, 08:13:41 AM
(http://i887.photobucket.com/albums/ac71/Flame-G102/1400215197471_zps59f07e8b.jpg~original)
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on May 16, 2014, 08:23:21 AM
What... does that even do?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 16, 2014, 08:25:13 AM
What... does that even do?
It gives you privacy from Sky Net of course.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on May 16, 2014, 08:46:59 AM
It gives you privacy from Sky Net of course.

But Skynet sees all.

Putting some plastic over a camera isn't going to stop them from hearing every single thing you say!
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on May 16, 2014, 08:56:57 AM
That's when you put tape over the mic to muffle everything.

OR...

Take some screwdrivers, open the console up, and disconnect the camera and mic connections in the next episode of Video Game Console Autopsy.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Police Girl on July 24, 2014, 08:34:58 AM
So its been a while.

You know that Xbox Original Entertainment thing that was making some Halo show?

Well, So much for that thing! (http://kotaku.com/its-games-games-games-as-microsoft-plans-to-shut-xbox-1606726469)
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on July 24, 2014, 08:38:02 AM
It never ends?
Title: XBox One Kills Teen
Post by: Quickman on August 15, 2015, 06:55:53 AM
XBox One Ejects Disc, Kills Teen (https://newswatch33.com/bizarre/xbox-one-kills-teen-after-console-forcefully-ejected-a-disc-slicing-his-throat/)

SKYNET
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 15, 2015, 07:00:43 AM
Ugh that's just grisly.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on August 15, 2015, 07:02:47 AM
Unfortunately...

[spoiler]It's fake.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 15, 2015, 07:13:28 AM
[spoiler]Should have figured, it almost wasn't worth my eyes being assaulted with such disgusting things like some dude's huge as beer belly and a link leading to an article of a a boyfriend super glueing his girlfriend's vagina.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on August 15, 2015, 07:16:27 AM
I just felt that we haven't had any XBone stupidity in a while and shared it anyway.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on August 15, 2015, 07:44:45 AM
[spoiler]It was nice that you shared that with the class. I also like that article included IGN and Kotaku. If there is any sort of actual stupidity Microsoft has done with the Xboned, is not having backwards compatibility from the start.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on August 15, 2015, 08:08:12 AM
[spoiler](http://i.imgur.com/senGFZJ.jpg)[/spoiler]
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Amatiramisu on August 15, 2015, 08:12:27 AM
oh my god lol the disk ejection article was fake lol

I don't remember the original source but it's not real lol
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 15, 2015, 08:19:38 AM
[spoiler](http://i.imgur.com/senGFZJ.jpg)[/spoiler]
What did I just see?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on August 15, 2015, 08:24:23 AM
What did I just see?

The next step to achieve human enlightenment.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 24, 2016, 06:52:55 PM
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/xbox-onesie-announced-by-microsoft/1100-6442903/ (http://www.gamespot.com/articles/xbox-onesie-announced-by-microsoft/1100-6442903/)

You guys thought the ride ended but it's still going.......
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Amatiramisu on August 24, 2016, 07:21:14 PM
Why.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 24, 2016, 07:34:35 PM
The sad thing is I would buy this. 

If it was a Hoodie.

And was a PS4 Hoodie instead of the Xbone.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Phi on August 24, 2016, 07:43:23 PM
Reading the article title, I assumed it was a onesie to dress the actual console.

This is just as dumb, though.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on August 24, 2016, 07:44:40 PM
*looks at the Xbonesie*

Why

I mean, onesies are great and all.  I love my Umbreon onesie and I can't wait for the weather to cool down so I can wear it more.  I'd really love to get another onesie and I have my eye on a hyena onesie. 

But... much like Gamer Grub, Game Fuel, and other gamer-marketed items...

...why

Just be a furry like the rest of us.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 24, 2016, 07:49:55 PM
Hell if it was regular pajamas this would sell more, why make it a freaking onesie?   So few people wear onesies, does Microsoft seriously not get that?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Quickman on August 24, 2016, 08:03:26 PM
Before I saw the article, I thought it was a baby onesie.

I dunno which is worse.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 24, 2016, 08:07:48 PM
Both would be nearly equally bad but I think the Baby Onesie would be worse.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on August 24, 2016, 08:27:58 PM
Limited quantities of the S model are being manufactured? Why?
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 24, 2016, 08:33:41 PM
Because Project Scorpio will make both Xbones obsolete, but it's still stupid the S model is not going to be the standard now.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on August 24, 2016, 11:19:16 PM
It also limits the costumers' options of which system they want, especially if Scorpio is going to cost much more than the standard/S model. It's like with Nintendo and the New 3DS line by making the regular sized a limited edition deal in the U.S..
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Amatiramisu on August 25, 2016, 10:01:47 AM
I mean this is the first time an S model wouldn't [tornado fang] up the console functionality irreversably. See: PS3 slim which removed backwards compatibility, or 360 slim which removed external hard drive.

This time neither of them had any features to begin with. No worries about any changes aside from form factor when they don't have any functionality at all!  8D
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 25, 2016, 10:08:40 AM
To this day I still don't understand how the hell the PS3 Slim can play PS1 games but not PS2 games.  It doesn't make sense.........
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: ViperAcidZX on August 25, 2016, 07:21:55 PM
I thought the reason PS3s can play PS1 games was because it has a PS1 emulator built in the system and they removed the PS2 hardware in Silm PS3s or something along those that gave it PS2 compatibility.
Title: Re: The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)
Post by: Amatiramisu on August 25, 2016, 11:55:54 PM
Basically that's the gist of it. Classic PS3s had PS2 hardware built-in.