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Rockman & Community => Rockman Series => Topic started by: Skaarg on September 15, 2009, 10:46:54 PM
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As a couple of you might know I'm trying to collect all of the US released Mega Man games, and well I am actually almost done with consoles and handhelds. I have 5 console games left and 3 handheld games left (going by what has been released so far). Well soon I'll be at the point where I'll really have to work on the PC versions of games. Well unfortunately all I have is a complete copy of X5 so far.
After searching around on the internet I've compiled a list of US released games, but I wanted to make sure it's accurate, and hopefully some of you can help?
Mega Man - 3 1/2 and 5 1/4 floppy
Mega Man 3 - 3 1/2 and 5 1/4 floppy and CD-ROM bundled with Street Fighter 2
Mega Man X - CD-ROM (game alone, and a version bundled with a controller)
Mega Man X3 - CD-ROM
Mega Man X4 - CD-ROM
Mega Man X5 - CD-ROM
Mega Man X three pack - CD-ROM comes with X3-X5
Mega Man X8 - CD-ROM or DVD? I haven't found the answer for this yet.
Mega Man Legends - CD-ROM
Some sites also say Legends 2 was released, but from my reading it looks like it was set to be released and even got a SKU which can be found by looking online, but was never actually released. Whenever I've sent Capcom an email asking about this I've gotten nothing in return. :|
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X8 was on PC in Japan only because it was released here first, last I checked.
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X8 for the PC was on two CDs. You needed to keep the second disc in the CD drive to play the game.
America got it first on PS2 in December 2004, then it came out in Japan on PC and PS2 in March 2005.
Europe got it a month before Japan. o.o
Capcom USA did put up some kind of 1-hour test demo of X5 and one of the Legends games that let you play for that much time, then it would lock up and you had to pay for the games to continue. The Japanese version of DASH 2/Legends 2 exists though. ^^
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/dash2pcinstall.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/dash2pcsetup.png)
I've seen a couple of rapidshares and torrents hosting the English PC version of Legends 2, they could have either been the real thing or someone transferred the English translation from the PS1 version over to the PC version.
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Okay, thanks for the clarification on X8. Yeah I very well know of the DASH 2 for PC, but everytime I've seen an English torrent it's ended up either being the PS1 version or it had no seeders to find out what it is.
I know there was also a demo released for X1 which if I recall was just the first level. Kind of interesting the X5 and legends demos were 1 hour timed, was it 1 hour unlimited distance in the game?
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Yea, you could go anywhere you want in 1 hour. ^^ </wii>
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You could finish X5 in that amount of time...
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Could the time limit be removed via any means?
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Um I think so. o.o The demos were running a loader with some buttons on them, like 'visit website' or 'start game'.
If someone would get rid of that loader and do some changes to the game itself, maybe it could be removed. ^^
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So when you say one of the Legends games, you're not sure whether it's Misadventures or Legends 1?
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Its Legends 1 (Have it on my Computer). Misadventures, I believe, wasn't released on anything except the PSX...
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As a couple of you might know I'm trying to collect all of the US released Mega Man games, and well I am actually almost done with consoles and handhelds. I have 5 console games left and 3 handheld games left (going by what has been released so far). Well soon I'll be at the point where I'll really have to work on the PC versions of games. Well unfortunately all I have is a complete copy of X5 so far.
After searching around on the internet I've compiled a list of US released games, but I wanted to make sure it's accurate, and hopefully some of you can help?
Mega Man - 3 1/2 and 5 1/4 floppy
Mega Man 3 - 3 1/2 and 5 1/4 floppy and CD-ROM bundled with Street Fighter 2
Mega Man X - CD-ROM (game alone, and a version bundled with a controller)
Mega Man X3 - CD-ROM
Mega Man X4 - CD-ROM
Mega Man X5 - CD-ROM
Mega Man X three pack - CD-ROM comes with X3-X5
Mega Man X8 - CD-ROM or DVD? I haven't found the answer for this yet.
Mega Man Legends - CD-ROM
Some sites also say Legends 2 was released, but from my reading it looks like it was set to be released and even got a SKU which can be found by looking online, but was never actually released. Whenever I've sent Capcom an email asking about this I've gotten nothing in return. :|
THIS is MY time to Shine...
Details:
Two different box opening designs - one take lid off box-style, and the other flip-lid NES box style
Mega Man - both 3 1/2 and 5 1/4 floppy
Mega Man - 3 1/2 floppy
Mega Man - 5 1/4 floppy
so 6 versions in total
Exactly the same details on
Mega Man 3 - with the addition that it was also re-released on CD in a see-thru papersleeve
so total 7 versions.
Also both these games were added to the aforementioned Street Fighter compilation Box...
As for the X Series:
X1 - was only released WITHOUT controller in the US - the version w controller is a European Import - CD-Rom in Big Box
X3 as well as X4, - US Version has exclusive design on the Big Box, reaally nice design at that. Whilst the European one comes in a smaller box w the same design as the PS1 / Saturn versions... all 4 are CD-Roms
X5 - ONLY released in the US, Small box close to SNES box size. CD-Rom.
Neither X2, X6, X7, were released on PC in US / Europe. X8 was released in Europe only in a DVD-box - never actually opened mine, but reads DVD as far as I can see, my apologies to Vixy if I'm wrong about this one...
The X3,X4,X5 box was only released in Korea.
Mega Man Legends was ONLY released in the US - big box CD-Rom.
Legends 2 never showed outside Asia, even as download.
There are quite a few more games in the Asian Market tho...my definete favourite Market. Esp. Taiwan.
Need any more details - feel free to ask...
And Shadowman might know a bit as well...
/pete.
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There was a 2-CD release of X8, specially in the Japan/Asia area.
Capcom must have changed it for the Europe release into one DVD. ^^
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Thank you very much for the detailed response Rockmaniac. The first two PC games are really going to make it hard to get a complete collection now lol. Just when I feel like I get a step closer to my goal I fall two steps back.
I did a bit more research into X8 because I could have swore that it was released in the US, and it turns out it was, but only as a download through Game Stop.
So for the paper-sleeve version of X3 there was there no stand alone copy of that where it got it's own box? It was only bundled in the sleeve with Street Fighter?
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Rockmaniac has summed everything up perfectly, nothing I can really add to it. I also didn't realise about the box differences on the 2 original PC games.
Rarity wise Megaman 1 and 3 pop up quite often on eBay so they shouldn't be to hard to find, the other games from my experience are much harder to track down (I still don't have MM Legends boxed).
The Japanese releases all seemed to get at least 2-3 variants for each game (most of these are CD case or DVD case bargain re-releases).
Regarding X8, I've opened my Euro PC version and it does indeed come on 1 DVD where as the Japanese versions I have all come on 2 CD's.
Like Rockmaniac said, the Asian releases are also in my opinion some of the most interesting to collect. Some of the box designs and exclusive games are really interesting.
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Thank you very much for the detailed response Rockmaniac. The first two PC games are really going to make it hard to get a complete collection now lol. Just when I feel like I get a step closer to my goal I fall two steps back.
I did a bit more research into X8 because I could have swore that it was released in the US, and it turns out it was, but only as a download through Game Stop.
So for the paper-sleeve version of X3 there was there no stand alone copy of that where it got it's own box? It was only bundled in the sleeve with Street Fighter?
Well the 1 & 3 games are hard to complete due to the fact that no sellers ever state how to open the box *lol*
As for X8 as a dl in the US - i can't say for sure...I meant only in Stores. But could very well be out there was download, X3-X5 are still...
Papersleeve version of X3, there's no such thing. There is however of Mega Man 3 - and I think this can still be bought online - If you want I'll be happy to link you.. Mega Man X3 came Boxed - as I said earlier - 2 diff versions - US HUUUGE Box, diff design, and Euro Big Box Same design as PSX / Saturn game...
And again the Street Fighter Box - has both MM1 and MM 3 - but def NOT X3 ;) - hope I cleared it up for you! ;) Any more questions keep asking :) - good luck in completing your collection - I'm trying for the same ;)
/Pete
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Well the 1 & 3 games are hard to complete due to the fact that no sellers ever state how to open the box *lol*
As for X8 as a dl in the US - i can't say for sure...I meant only in Stores. But could very well be out there was download, X3-X5 are still...
Papersleeve version of X3, there's no such thing. There is however of Mega Man 3 - and I think this can still be bought online - If you want I'll be happy to link you.. Mega Man X3 came Boxed - as I said earlier - 2 diff versions - US HUUUGE Box, diff design, and Euro Big Box Same design as PSX / Saturn game...
And again the Street Fighter Box - has both MM1 and MM 3 - but def NOT X3 ;) - hope I cleared it up for you! ;) Any more questions keep asking :) - good luck in completing your collection - I'm trying for the same ;)
/Pete
Sorry I wasn't meaning to count X8 in my list of games. When I was saying I thought it got a release I thought it got a in store release. Since it's only a download I don't care about getting it really anymore.
Sorry again about the X3, 3 mix-up I meant 3. Didn't mean to make things wrong and confusing. =P
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As a couple of you might know I'm trying to collect all of the US released Mega Man games, and well I am actually almost done with consoles and handhelds. I have 5 console games left and 3 handheld games left (going by what has been released so far). Well soon I'll be at the point where I'll really have to work on the PC versions of games. Well unfortunately all I have is a complete copy of X5 so far.
After searching around on the internet I've compiled a list of US released games, but I wanted to make sure it's accurate, and hopefully some of you can help?
Mega Man - 3 1/2 and 5 1/4 floppy
Mega Man 3 - 3 1/2 and 5 1/4 floppy and CD-ROM bundled with Street Fighter 2
Mega Man X - CD-ROM (game alone, and a version bundled with a controller)
Mega Man X3 - CD-ROM
Mega Man X4 - CD-ROM
Mega Man X5 - CD-ROM
Mega Man X three pack - CD-ROM comes with X3-X5
Mega Man X8 - CD-ROM or DVD? I haven't found the answer for this yet.
Mega Man Legends - CD-ROM
Some sites also say Legends 2 was released, but from my reading it looks like it was set to be released and even got a SKU which can be found by looking online, but was never actually released. Whenever I've sent Capcom an email asking about this I've gotten nothing in return. :|
Well, as has been pointed out, you'd definitely want to add MEGA MAN LEGENDS to this list as it was released for the PC in 2002.
I'm not sure if you have checked out Dr. Cossack's Mega Man PC website, but he has compiled a good list of all "official" titles that were released for the PC in and outside of Asia:
http://www.interordi.com/mega_man_pc/games/pc/#stores
You may also find it interesting that you can still purchase MEGA MAN III (PC) from CD Access in CD-ROM format with a plastic sleeve cover:
http://www.cdaccess.com/html/quick/megaman3pj.htm
Of course, if we wanted to talk about all Asian PC games (official and not), the list would get quite large.
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http://www.interordi.com/mega_man_pc/games/pc/#stores
Hahaha, that guy says Rockman Strategy wasn't licensed. What a retard.
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Hahaha, that guy says Rockman Strategy wasn't licensed. What a retard.
Wow, I didn't even notice that. Yeah, "Rockman Strategy" was licensed to Dream Come True, just as "Rockman Gold Empire" was licensed to Stawberry Soft. Just because someone doesn't like a game or haven't played it to verify its authenticity shouldn't make them so stubborn that they don't want to recognize the licensing. I mean, heck, I don't particularly like the two DOS games made by Hi-Tech and Rozner Labs, but that doesn't mean they aren't Rockman games.
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I don't particularly like the two DOS games made by Hi-Tech and Rozner Labs, but that doesn't mean they aren't Rockman games.
But they're not "Rockman" games. They're "MegaMan" games.
And there's a distinct difference between being licensed by one branch of Capcom and being licensed by another.
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Not really. They belong to the same series regardless. If it weren't for a copyright they'd be called Rockman games too.
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But they're not "Rockman" games. They're "MegaMan" games.
And there's a distinct difference between being licensed by one branch of Capcom and being licensed by another.
So what difference is there between Rockman and Mega Man, besides nomenclature? But, if this game was licensed by the U.S. branch of Capcom, would that then make it entirely non-canon (it had no real green-light from Japan, I'm assuming)? :\
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Yea they are non-canon. I'm sure CoJ got their hands on the games too and looked the other way. (with a laugh in-between) ^^;
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Yea they are non-canon. I'm sure CoJ got their hands on the games too and looked the other way. (with a laugh in-between) ^^;
I see then. Well, my goal in my remake project is to make them more canonical and tie in their stories with the other games in the series and make it more NES-like.
Also, Rockman Strategy, Rockman Gold Empire, and some others are licensed titles, but I'm guessing also non-canon? Still, I've always felt that something is at least semi-canon unless it somehow directly opposes already established canon material.
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Strategy is barely even considerable as a completed game from I've seen. Fan doesn't even have lines...
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Fan and the Constellation bosses wasn't mentioned in source books either. Not even R20.
Challenger from the Future was there tho. >U<
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I wish they had mentioned it in R20. They had those old Nintendo Power scans of mine and the American cartoon series; why not go for the good stuff? RM Strategy has a few neat designs even if the game is incomplete.
As for the Japanese game canon, none of the licenced stuff counts. We had a whole discussion about canon I won't go into again. But, to summ up licenced games:
Game Gear Megaman
Megaman 2 and 3 Tiger
ALL the Taiwan-only games
Rockman and Forte WS
Oddly, R&F WS was made into canon, wasn't it? So, maybe if Capcom Japan ever bothered to look up some of these other games, just maybe, they'd be made into canon.
I can just picture Torchman looking up and wishing on a star for that to happen right now. You know, before he'd crushed by a giant meteor and all.
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I get the impression that Capcom is picky (and a bad feeling that the others weren't included because they weren't Japanese...).
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They included RM&F WS, how picky could they be? I mean, that's a pretty terrible game right there. Nintendo Power's in-house art isn't really great either.
I'd love to know what Inafune would say about theese games and their inclusion in the timeline. Even if he just cringed, that'd be worth it. But series creators aren't the same as fans; they don't see things as militantly.
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I can just picture Torchman looking up and wishing on a star for that to happen right now. You know, before he'd crushed by a giant meteor and all.
TorchMan thinks he's the counterpart to FireMan.exe from the anime.
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Oddly, R&F WS was made into canon, wasn't it?
IIRC it's referenced by ZX Advent. I'm not sure if that really makes them canonical or if it's just a fun easter egg. You have to bear in mind that this is the same game that established the 40-year-old gold/blue guy with a pistol on the U.S. MM1 box art as being a legendary superhero.
Past game characters appearing as cartoons/comic books in the distant future is nothing new (see Legends 2, Black Zero and much of the Classic-series cast), ZXA was just getting more obscure.
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Oddly, R&F WS was made into canon, wasn't it?
If you define canon as officially licensed, they always were. If you're talking about continuity, not especially. Appearing in R20 doesn't make the game any more J-continuity relevant than the mangas which were also showcased in the book.
IIRC it's referenced by ZX Advent. I'm not sure if that really makes them canonical or if it's just a fun easter egg. You have to bear in mind that this is the same game that established the 40-year-old gold/blue guy with a pistol on the U.S. MM1 box art as being a legendary superhero.
Past game characters appearing as cartoons/comic books in the distant future is nothing new (see Legends 2, Black Zero and much of the Classic-series cast), ZXA was just getting more obscure.
Right on. And using characters from the EXE universe as toys in the first ZX game shows that such omake examples need not be referencing historical figures from their world.
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But if Exe is a fictional series in the original timeline, and X and Dash and the rest are fictional series in the Exe timeline, then one of their games referenced something real! Oh no!
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If you define canon as officially licensed, they always were. If you're talking about continuity, not especially. Appearing in R20 doesn't make the game any more J-continuity relevant than the mangas which were also showcased in the book.
Yeah, wrong word. Meant continuity.
I was under the impression that RF WS was referenced in a newer game. Not right?
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Strategy is barely even considerable as a completed game from I've seen. Fan doesn't even have lines...
Strategy is a decent game for what it is (mainly just because it's a fresh idea for the series), but it does leave A LOT to be desired. There are a couple areas that I don't think can actually be beaten without cheating, Fan seems to have no real role in the game (other than to get the buyer's attention on the box), and often the game will crash while loading save files (they somehow get corrupted) and force you to start all over again.
I know that R&F WS was referenced in ZX: Advent, and I've heard its also in R20, so at least they acknowledge that the game exists. I guess some of these other licensed titles just don't interest them at all (or they realize they are pretty half-assed in most cases). :|
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Exactly what was the reference in ZX Advent?
I'm convinced Rockman Strategy is an unfinished game. Totally convinced. It seems fun if you can understand it (and play the music). I can't so it's kinda boring. Did you come upon the glitch with Capricorn that has him be totally invincible to all attacks (or at least take only one damage to anything)?
Honestly, I don't think Capcom has licenced games on the mind when they're outside of their region. I think they'd care, if they remembered them. Maybe not Megaman PC, but probably Rockman Strategy at least. Technically, they didn't even have any art for the WS games themselves; they got their sprites from Sprites INC just as they got the Nintendo Power stuff from me. So don't think it's inclusion in R20 is all that special, they didn't go out of their way to contact Bandai or anything.
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Exactly what was the reference in ZX Advent?
I'm convinced Rockman Strategy is an unfinished game. Totally convinced. It seems fun if you can understand it (and play the music). I can't so it's kinda boring. Did you come upon the glitch with Capricorn that has him be totally invincible to all attacks (or at least take only one damage to anything)?
Honestly, I don't think Capcom has licenced games on the mind when they're outside of their region. I think they'd care, if they remembered them. Maybe not Megaman PC, but probably Rockman Strategy at least. Technically, they didn't even have any art for the WS games themselves; they got their sprites from Sprites INC just as they got the Nintendo Power stuff from me. So don't think it's inclusion in R20 is all that special, they didn't go out of their way to contact Bandai or anything.
Ha! I doubt they contacted Bandai either. I think it was mainly just a licensed game that had an okay story, so it may have been worth referencing in R20.
In ZX: Advent, you have a side-quest or two that ask you to collect some comic books, and I know one is about Konro Man (a walking stove) and the other is about the Clock Men. There are probably pictures of these somewhere online, maybe at the MMKB or something.
I have had that glitch occur with Capricorn, and actually most all of the bosses are way too strong and can kill you in 1 or 2 moves. The only way I managed to beat most of them was to have one character I didn't care about go against it and be killed, but in the process requiring the boss to use all its attack points. Then, I'd have Rock or another powerful character finish it off while it was unable to attack with it's weapon.
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RM Strategy is odd in that you have to buy your level ups and you don't automatically do so. Since I couldn't even read it, I just used the Cheat-O-Matic to keep MM at full health (and finding his health number was tricky, I tells ya!) and "freezing" the timer. But they even kill you with the powerups you buy?
So it's a comic in XZ Advent. Hm. Not exactly a ringing endorsement of it's continuity, but it shows that capcom is willing to accept it ... which is probably as good as we'll get, I guess.
I think they'd have added RMS and the PC games for the same reason they have the odd box art and the Nintendo Power art: it's of interest to the Japanese fans. I don't think it has to do with quality ... the story of RF WS isn't all that great either (it's like MM forgot who Quint was all of a sudden), but that game is referenced on every single site in the Japanese fanbase. It's very well known there.
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Technically, they didn't even have any art for the WS games themselves; they got their sprites from Sprites INC just as they got the Nintendo Power stuff from me. So don't think it's inclusion in R20 is all that special, they didn't go out of their way to contact Bandai or anything.
The WS game didn't have any pubished art outside what appeared in the game itself in sprite form. The cover art is borrowed and no original art is featured on the box or manual. There should be production sketches somewhere, but Capcom doesn't have them.
I think Ariga said on his blog back when they were working on the book that they couldn't get permission from Bandai to reprint Mega Mission card images, which is why only a few concept art designs from that appear. If RFWS had art, they probably wouldn't have permission to use that either. I'm not sure why the sprites were allowed to be printed in that case, though.
So it's a comic in XZ Advent.
Just a few of the boss characters have become manga heroes, not the entire game itself. There was also a slight reference in the first ZX game, Sardine talks about a toy (the older guardian mechanic?) made for him that looks like a stove with legs, a reference to Conroman. He hated the toy and doesn't play with it however.
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Now that's interesting. I figured there was no official published art of those guys (I was thinking more of production sketches, maybe even something colored), but I didn't figure that Bandai might say no to republishing things like the Mega Mission cards (or at least some of them) for R20.
Maybe the sprites were a different matter? They must be, I guess.
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RM Strategy is odd in that you have to buy your level ups and you don't automatically do so. Since I couldn't even read it, I just used the Cheat-O-Matic to keep MM at full health (and finding his health number was tricky, I tells ya!) and "freezing" the timer. But they even kill you with the powerups you buy?
So it's a comic in XZ Advent. Hm. Not exactly a ringing endorsement of it's continuity, but it shows that capcom is willing to accept it ... which is probably as good as we'll get, I guess.
I think they'd have added RMS and the PC games for the same reason they have the odd box art and the Nintendo Power art: it's of interest to the Japanese fans. I don't think it has to do with quality ... the story of RF WS isn't all that great either (it's like MM forgot who Quint was all of a sudden), but that game is referenced on every single site in the Japanese fanbase. It's very well known there.
I always thought that RFWS was a shitty game, but that its story was half-way decent. It turns out that these robots who are attacking Symphony City come from the time-period that Wily traveled to in order to learn from their technology and capture the disarmed Rock. However, "R-Shadow" isn't Quint, although he tells Rock that he is at some point. It turns out, in the end, that he was simply a robot Wily built using future technology, but that he was discarded and Wily instead simply captured Rock and turned him into Quint. If nothing else, this tells us that come mid-century (204X or 205X) Rock is disarmed and living a somewhat peaceful life.
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How do you recruit/unlock Fan in RM Strategy? I managed to play through the entire game without getting him. The game didn't seem that hard once you get used to the leveling system, the equipment menu's were a little tough to understand but I somehow managed to muddle through. Capricorn did seem completely overpowered though, so I just bought a load of "bomb" items so I could damage him without even fighting him!
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Maybe the sprites were a different matter? They must be, I guess.
It's probably a different legal matter, too. I bet CoJ owns those sprites.
If nothing else, this tells us that come mid-century (204X or 205X) Rock is disarmed and living a somewhat peaceful life.
Or it's an alternative future.
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We kind of already knew that Rock was disarmed and living peacefully in Quint's future. The WS game just went with what World2 said. From that same story, we knew Wily had retired, but was tricked by his past self into helping him kidnap Rock. What the WS game adds to this whole story is that Wily did not continue his evil ways, Rockman Shadow destroyed that future and warriors that could beat him only existed in the past.
I think the game has a pretty nice plot. You just need to realize that Rockman Shadow is considerably different from Quint, despite the many similarities. I just think the game could have done without the sudden flashback art shift, and that CompassMan could have gotten more meaningful lines.
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If they wanted a flashback art shift, they should have ripped the original sprites!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/RyanFerneau/after.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/RyanFerneau/before.png)
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Maybe it has something to do with copyright more than them being idiots, actually. I mean ... obviously they were looking at it when they were doing the game.
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Or it would be considered unprofessional to use then archaic sprites. They were trying to sell, & cutting edge sprites sold.
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We kind of already knew that Rock was disarmed and living peacefully in Quint's future. The WS game just went with what World2 said. From that same story, we knew Wily had retired, but was tricked by his past self into helping him kidnap Rock. What the WS game adds to this whole story is that Wily did not continue his evil ways, Rockman Shadow destroyed that future and warriors that could beat him only existed in the past.
I think the game has a pretty nice plot. You just need to realize that Rockman Shadow is considerably different from Quint, despite the many similarities. I just think the game could have done without the sudden flashback art shift, and that CompassMan could have gotten more meaningful lines.
Interesting. You know, I really don't remember CompassMan (or Compas Man?) having any lines in the game, but then again, it's been a long time since I've played it. What exactly does he say? And, I also wondered what his role was in the game, considering he didn't give you a weapon or anything.
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FORTE: Bothersome bastards! If you don't want to be scrap get the hell out of my way! I just want to meet that black Rockman only!
ROCKMAN: Don't get in my way! Please, I want you to let me pass here. I just want to meet and talk with Shadow.
COMPASSMAN: My name is Compassman; Rockman Shadow's friend. After this stage is Shadow's castle. But, I won't let you get past here. Prepare for me to be your enemy from now. You'd better fight for your life if you expect to live.
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The basic idea CompassMan seems to convey is that the Dimensions are somewhat Rockman Shadow's friends, but that only raises more questions than answers in regards to Rockman Shadow's motives. Between all the lies he's told the player, it's certainly interesting to consider how much his forces knew of the truth.
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Actually, what really bothered me about the sprites was how the more humanoid characters like CompassMan and RockMan Shadow were drawn in a very different style from RockMan and Forte. If RockMan Shadow is a copy of a future RockMan, then shouldn't his body type match the RockMan you play as a little better?
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I have never played this game. How horrible is it?
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Actually, what really bothered me about the sprites was how the more humanoid characters like CompassMan and RockMan Shadow were drawn in a very different style from RockMan and Forte. If RockMan Shadow is a copy of a future RockMan, then shouldn't his body type match the RockMan you play as a little better?
You're right. Since R-Shadow is a robot based on the future Rockman's design, you'd think he'd look at least somewhat similar to him. Heck, at least the artwork for a boss like him should be drawn in a similar fashion as that used to draw Rock. Perhaps he looks different because he is basically a modified/different version of Rock. Or, perhaps more likely, Bandai didn't think like we do when they made this game.
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Rockman Shadow looks better in the cutscenes, but the sprites are a mixed bag in general. It's even acknowledged in the plot (by Rockman specifically) that Rockman Shadow looks just like Rockman.
Oh and he smells just like Forte, but thankfully we can't confirm that ourselves!
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Or perhaps we're missing the real point: that MegaRockMan and ForteBass are TWIN BROTHERS. Awwww!
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They really missed an oppotunity in the WS game. Given the nature of the RMs, it might have been nice if they resembled an early version of Reploids (like a missing link). Since they're from the future and all.
I don't really like any of the art in the game. The Shadow sprite looks like it's meant to be based off MM's MM8 sprites. It might be that MM looked like that too (since so many things seem to be based off the SNES RnF), but was changed as the art progressed. Pure speculation on that tho.
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They really missed an oppotunity in the WS game. Given the nature of the RMs, it might have been nice if they resembled an early version of Reploids (like a missing link). Since they're from the future and all.
I don't really like any of the art in the game. The Shadow sprite looks like it's meant to be based off MM's MM8 sprites. It might be that MM looked like that too (since so many things seem to be based off the SNES RnF), but was changed as the art progressed. Pure speculation on that tho.
I have this game in Rom form and if there is a Translation,Level editor,and pretty much a Debugger...Then i'll possibly Do a Hack of this.....for those who want it.
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Sure, send it my way.
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Sure, send it my way.
The Rom?
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Your hack. I can find the ROM myself anytime. Or were you saying you need those things before you'll hack it?
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Your hack. I can find the ROM myself anytime. Or were you saying you need those things before you'll hack it?
no i said i would do the hack if the fans want me to & if i had a level editor and a Traslation of the Rom Then i'l do it...along with some Help With WS Games....I've only worked on Nes MM Hacks which i'm making one.....
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They really missed an oppotunity in the WS game. Given the nature of the RMs, it might have been nice if they resembled an early version of Reploids (like a missing link). Since they're from the future and all.
I don't really like any of the art in the game. The Shadow sprite looks like it's meant to be based off MM's MM8 sprites. It might be that MM looked like that too (since so many things seem to be based off the SNES RnF), but was changed as the art progressed. Pure speculation on that tho.
It would have been good for those robots to be more advanced. I mean, they come from mid-20XX, so you'd think there'd be some upgrade in technology by then, but apparently not...
@Megaman Rock 963: One day, after I finish some other projects, I might make a full remake of this game (either in NES or SNES style), with perhaps 2 more RM's to fill in the gap.