Topic: Slimstation 3: Slimmer, Cheaper, Sony-er

[VixyNyan]

I want 360, but... I'm afraid of rings of death~

[Psycho Yuffie]

The rings of death are common. So common, in fact, that one out of two 360's bought will get them within a month.

[Nekomata]

except i've had my 360 for years and still haven't red ringed.

[Jericho]

Ventilation motherfuckers, make sure it gets enough of it!

[Satoryu]

the Jasper units don't RRoD. and if they aren't the default model by now, M$ is [tornado fang]ing retarded.

[Psycho Yuffie]

except i've had my 360 for years and still haven't red ringed.

It's statistics, dear. It doesn't mean it will happen, it just means there's a high probability that it could.

the Jasper units don't RRoD. and if they aren't the default model by now, M$ is [tornado fang]ing retarded.

What's a Jasper?

Ventilation motherfuckers, make sure it gets enough of it!

I think that's a veiled "if doesn't work for you, you're doing it wrong" statement. That's what Microsoft said about Vista and they were wrong. That's also what they say about the 360--and guess what?--they're wrong. The 360 is the one console that needs a re-design. The current one is flawed. The failure rates for the PS3 and the Wii aren't even in the double digits.

[Acid]

except i've had my 360 for years and still haven't red ringed.

For every person that doesn't get the RRoD, another one gets seven.

[Satoryu]

What's a Jasper?

it's a specific model of 360 with different chipsets and other internal whatnot.

[Jericho]

You know, I do believe that MS was very foolish to make this move, but what I'm more shocked at is how many people continued buying 360s with the unreliable hardware. I actually know someone IRL who has had at least 8 different instances of RRoD and 1 E74 error, the Jasper equivalent of a RRoD. Funniest part is this guy lost quite a bit of money on each instance after the 3rd time.

[Psycho Yuffie]

Well, if I ever do decide to get a 360, I would definitely remember to look for these things.

Back on topic: I would only think about getting a PS3 if the price decreases a bit more. It's still too rich for my blood. All the consoles are.

[Protoman Blues]

You know, I do believe that MS was very foolish to make this move, but what I'm more shocked at is how many people continued buying 360s with the unreliable hardware. I actually know someone IRL who has had at least 8 different instances of RRoD and 1 E74 error, the Jasper equivalent of a RRoD. Funniest part is this guy lost quite a bit of money on each instance after the 3rd time.

The only reason I can think of would be save data.  

[Acid]

I think this is the lowest low the PS3 price will ever reach. So if you really want one you got to save yourself some money. No way around that.

As for the Xbox: If Microsoft's next console will have the same problems again, even if just for a small amount of time, I'd leave the ship. It would prove that they learned nothing or just don't care. Console wars (I hate them) aside, 33% failure rate is absolutely and indisputably too high for this day and age. For any product out there, I'm not just talking about consoles. You can't possibly defend that, or try to talk it down. So let's hope the neXtbox will be more reliable.

[Protoman Blues]

33%?  Last I heard, it was at 54% Failure Rate.

[Psycho Yuffie]

I think this is the lowest low the PS3 price will ever reach. So if you really want one you got to save yourself some money. No way around that.

As for the Xbox: If Microsoft's next console will have the same problems again, even if just for a small amount of time, I'd leave the ship. It would prove that they learned nothing or just don't care. Console wars (I hate them) aside, 33% failure rate is absolutely and indisputably too high for this day and age. For any product out there, I'm not just talking about consoles. You can't possibly defend that, or try to talk it down. So let's hope the neXtbox will be more reliable.

It's Microsoft, so no, it won't be more reliable. If anything, it'll be worse than the current XBox.

33%?  Last I heard, it was at 54% Failure Rate.

That's what I heard too.

[Acid]

33%?  Last I heard, it was at 54% Failure Rate.

I'm a nice guy and cut them some slack.

[Jericho]

33%?  Last I heard, it was at 54% Failure Rate.

This is correct. It's really bad business when something like this gets away without more public spectacle. The generally accepted failure rate for most electronic products is something like 3 - 8% or so after all IIRC.

[Psycho Yuffie]

This is correct. It's really bad business when something like this gets away without more public spectacle. The generally accepted failure rate for most electronic products is something like 3 - 8% or so after all IIRC.

360: 54%
PS3: 11%
Wii: 7%

Source: http://blog.seattlepi.com/microsoft/archives/176741.asp

[Protoman Blues]

My friend has literally told both Lou and myself that he's so disgusted withe the 360's failure rate, before it was 54%, that he wouldn't even take a free one, and that if someone got it for him, he'd literally sell it and use that money for more games.  Honestly, I don't blame him.  That amount of failures is really unacceptable, for any piece of hardware.  Which is a shame too, because I do like my 360.  

As for the PS3, I agree with Acid.  I doubt the price of it will ever be lower.

[Psycho Yuffie]

My friend has literally told both Lou and myself that he's so disgusted withe the 360's failure rate, before it was 54%, that he wouldn't even take a free one, and that if someone got it for him, he'd literally sell it and use that money for more games.  Honestly, I don't blame him.  That amount of failures is really unacceptable, for any piece of hardware.  Which is a shame too, because I do like my 360.  

As for the PS3, I agree with Acid.  I doubt the price of it will ever be lower.

I'll probably end up buying a used one. I bought my PS2 off my brother for $50.

[Kieran]

I got a refurbished 360 for like $180 when the 20-gig Pro dropped down to, what was it, $250 temporarily?  Well over a year ago, in any case.  It hasn't given me any trouble thus far.