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Title: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: TheDivine on July 19, 2011, 04:34:28 AM
It’s a sad day for Mega Man fans everywhere, as Capcom has officially announced that it has discontinued production on Mega Man Legends 3; a game we as fans have been waiting decades to see.

Originally posted at the Capcom-Unity (http://www.capcom-unity.com/gregaman/blog/2011/07/18/a_message_from_capcom) site, GregaMan sheds some light on the future of the Devroom and fan contributions:

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We'd like to thank you for your ongoing loyal support of Mega Man Legends 3. Today, however, we must regrettably announce the discontinuation of this project.

From the outset the MML3 Project was intended to give gamers across the world insight and input into the development process. Part of this process includes an assessment of whether the title will go into full production, and is based on a number of criteria with input from different sectors of the company.

Unfortunately it was not felt that the Mega Man Legends 3 Project met the required criteria, and it is with regret that we must announce that the Mega Man Legends 3 Project has been cancelled, meaning that Capcom will not be releasing the Prototype or the full game. Additionally, updates of the Mega Man Legends Developer Room will cease as of today, though the North American Developer Room and its forums will remain open indefinitely.

We can only express our deepest apologies to all of you who have lent us your unending support, including participation in the Mega Man Legends 3 Developer Room. On behalf of the entire Legends team, please accept our sincere apology for failing to meet the expectations of the fans.

We thank you all so much for your extended support of this title and this community, and we hope that you will continue to support the Mega Man franchise as well as other Capcom games.

I’m sure we’re all wondering what “criteria” were used to make this decision, but we may never know. The most we can do at this point is hope that the games that Capcom will be releasing in the future will meet up to the quality standards we’ve come to expect.

[Don't let the last edit thing fool you. The post you're currently reading was written by Seran - the superior author.]
Title: Re: Do Guess What Got Canned!
Post by: Flame on July 19, 2011, 04:41:17 AM
The fans have no fault here. They supported this with all they had. Even the ones who never played Legends wanted this damn game simply on hype alone.

this is just Capcom trying to [parasitic bomb] on whatever was left of Inafune's final projects.
Title: Re: Do Guess What Got Canned!
Post by: The Great Gonzo on July 19, 2011, 04:49:47 AM
Even if you won't care, I'd like to say this.

Rubbing it in is absolutely not what you should be doing.
Title: Re: Do Guess What Got Canned!
Post by: TheDivine on July 19, 2011, 04:52:00 AM
It's called satire.
Title: Re: Do Guess What Got Canned!
Post by: The Great Gonzo on July 19, 2011, 04:54:09 AM
It's called satire.

Satire should not excuse being a dick.
Title: Re: Do Guess What Got Canned!
Post by: Syl on July 19, 2011, 04:57:12 AM
Yeah, you mad.
Title: Re: Do Guess What Got Canned!
Post by: Satoryu on July 19, 2011, 05:01:21 AM
It's called satire.

No, it's called trolling. And it's called unprofessionalism. This is a news post you posted. News posts go on the front page for any passerby to the site to see. And news posts should be professionally done. With respect and dignity and not being a total dick about it, whether you called it or not. Seriously, this is what you do with the journalistic powers given to you?

I suggest you rewrite the post with just the facts and leave you opinions to all the other topics in the forum talking about this.
Title: Re: Do Guess What Got Canned!
Post by: Phi on July 19, 2011, 05:02:47 AM
After a while, the RAGE from all this will die down. Then Crapcom will announce an "ALL NEW 8-BIT MM11", and fans will eat it up as always without a thought. It's a cycle, if y'all haven't noticed.
Title: Re: Do Guess What Got Canned!
Post by: Sub Tank on July 19, 2011, 05:04:28 AM
Megaman is dead without Inafune.
Title: Re: Do Guess What Got Canned!
Post by: ParasiteBirth on July 19, 2011, 05:08:46 AM
That's it, I'm [tornado fang]ing done with CAPCOM

First we lose Keiji Inafune
Then we get Megaman Universe Canceled
They [tornado fang] UP Devil May Cry ( YES THEY DID )
And now they crush our dream? That game which we [tornado fang]ing asked for for like 11 god damn'd years?

I hope CAPCOM dies under a pile of dog turd
Title: Re: Do Guess What Got Canned!
Post by: The Great Gonzo on July 19, 2011, 05:09:36 AM
After a while, the RAGE from all this will die down. Then Crapcom will announce an "ALL NEW 8-BIT MM11", and fans will eat it up as always without a thought. It's a cycle, if y'all haven't noticed.

I may have a horrible memory, but I doubt that I'll forget MML3.

At this point, it'd be a miracle if we ever saw MM11. I'd like to think that if it did happen, we would support it in order to show that we don't want it going the way of MMU and MML3, not because we have the collective memory of a goldfish.

But, if Capcom is apparently so willing to flip off any fanbase of theirs that isn't large enough...
Title: Re: Do Guess What Got Canned!
Post by: Klavier Gavin on July 19, 2011, 05:10:22 AM
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Do Guess What Got Canned!
Post by: HyperSonicEXE on July 19, 2011, 05:10:55 AM
Megaman is dead without Inafune.

I was sorta hoping they had the creative wherewithal to shoulder on. That was naive.

I figured between Monster Hunter and Phoenix Wright that they still had the essential creative spark.
Title: Re: Do Guess What Got Canned!
Post by: gamefreak202020 on July 19, 2011, 05:18:21 AM
I just came back to say this.

...

...wake me up when ZX3 is announced.

..but seriously, While it's a dickmove extraordinaire for Capcom to do this, all the rage I'm seeing online about this won't change anything...but maybe there might be more productive ways to vent this rage.

For example, such Capcom won't do it, maybe a fan group will make thier own Legends 3...

...or just to show Capcom how much of a idiot they are, we could all mass-buy Legends on PSN and then tell Capcom that the overwhelming people who bought it are devoted Legends fans who want to see a proper send-off to the saga.

...or at the very least, have a Tron-Servbot Only Fest on MvC2 as a sendoff.
Title: Re: Do Guess What Got Canned!
Post by: Police Girl on July 19, 2011, 05:42:37 AM
...or just to show Capcom how much of a idiot they are, we could all mass-buy Legends on PSN and then tell Capcom that the overwhelming people who bought it are devoted Legends fans who want to see a proper send-off to the saga.

Yeah, legends is never going to be rereleased on PSN.

something about failing some test. probably involving voice acting.
Title: Re: Do Guess What Got Canned!
Post by: gamefreak202020 on July 19, 2011, 05:43:54 AM
I thought it was...I thought I saw it while browsing PS1 titles on the PSN...

...or maybe I was drunk then...
Title: Re: Do Guess What Got Canned!
Post by: Flame on July 19, 2011, 06:04:12 AM
(http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/2929/1311046954767.jpg)
Title: Re: Do Guess What Got Canned!
Post by: kosmos on July 19, 2011, 06:05:36 AM
I saw this coming. 2 games cancelled, Inafune out, noone pushing for the franchise inside Capcom, Inti Creates not doing anything probably because Capcom don't want. From now on, mangas, music CDs and figures, zero games, till they decide to give the franchise to some random west developer.

Title: Re: Do Guess What Got Canned!
Post by: irgpie on July 19, 2011, 06:14:45 AM
(http://i51.tinypic.com/2nggd8m.jpg) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megaman_Legends_3)
Title: Re: Do Guess What Got Canned!
Post by: Krystal on July 19, 2011, 06:19:14 AM
...ಠ_ರೃ
Title: Re: Do Guess What Got Canned!
Post by: Archer on July 19, 2011, 06:20:50 AM
Oh come on guys, it was so [tornado fang]ing obvious that this was going to happen.

This is what you get for getting excited over something that isn't even a sure thing, and it is also what Capcom gets for revealing something that isn't even green lighted yet.
Title: Re: Do Guess What Got Canned!
Post by: Solar on July 19, 2011, 06:22:23 AM
(http://i51.tinypic.com/2nggd8m.jpg) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megaman_Legends_3)

Edit: Gone already

Edit2: Or not. This'll probably keep up for a bit

It was still like that when I checked one moment ago. Still, I reuploaded the screenshot somewhere else, hope you don't mind.

(http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/2929/1311046954767.jpg)

Aww, you beat me to it :(
Title: Re: Do Guess What Got Canned!
Post by: irgpie on July 19, 2011, 06:23:27 AM
It was still like that when I checked one moment ago. Still, I reuploaded the screenshot somewhere else, hope you don't mind.
It seems fine whenever opening through here, but when clicking back from the Edit History, it's gone. I dunno.
Title: Re: Do Guess What Got Canned!
Post by: Police Girl on July 19, 2011, 06:23:29 AM
It was still like that when I checked one moment ago. Still, I reuploaded the screenshot somewhere else, hope you don't mind.

Its gone now, I was just about to edit it myself when it dissapeared.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Archer on July 19, 2011, 06:33:47 AM
Though you have to admit, Legends 3 being canceled did wonders for RPM.

The place was pretty much dead til now.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Phi on July 19, 2011, 06:38:11 AM
Brilliant OP post, Sato.

Though you have to admit, Legends 3 being canceled did wonders for RPM.

The place was pretty much dead til now.

Blame Capcom for not even trying with the MM franchise.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Flame on July 19, 2011, 06:39:15 AM
Though you have to admit, Legends 3 being canceled did wonders for RPM.

The place was pretty much dead til now.
Not sure if this is the kind of "wonders" I want, though....
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Krystal on July 19, 2011, 06:39:49 AM
Rally the fans together in a parade of hate :U
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: TheDivine on July 19, 2011, 06:41:54 AM
If things I post are going to be changed, I at least want them to be well written. I won’t have this rambling sitting beside my name.

Edit: That's better.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Protoman Blues on July 19, 2011, 06:44:07 AM
Now I'm definitely not the most hardcore Legends fan on RPM, so I'm probably not as broken up about this as a lot of people on here. My love lies primarily with the Classic series, and in that Capcom has pleased me with the last 2 games.

......Having said that, in all honesty I gotta say that this is seriously one of the most douchebag moves I've ever seen come from a gaming company...quite possibly ever. It's one thing to just outright lie and say "We're making a MegaMan Legends 3 game" sit on it for a while and behind the scenes discuss whether or not it will make a profit or not, cause lets be perfectly honest, MM fans are a very niche fanbase lately. However, to constantly pump the game up like this, to go to your fans "OH YEAH, WE'RE MAKING THIS [sonic slicer] AND YOU'RE ALL GONNA GET TO HELP!" and everything, to promote some random guy to do your Devroom PR work, to hold submission drawing contests and allow fans to vote on the designs of the characters, and essentially go out of their way to literally pump this game up as much as possible only to do this when it should be obvious that it's only a possibility that it's going to make a profit? The best equivalent I can think of would be if Nintendo spent months and months releasing all their Smash Bros. Dojo updates then announce that Brawl is canceled. Again, it's one thing to just announce something when you shouldn't and it's something entirely different to get your fanbase horny and then blue ball em' like this.

I'm definitely not one of those people who will never buy a Capcom product again (not like I any now anyway) because if they make a MM11, I'll buy it day 1. However, this is really an incredible spit in the face to a loyal, a downright overly loyal, franchise fanbase and the ramifications of this move will be very interesting to see. All I can say is for the people that are really hurt by this, protest with your wallet, not just your words.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Archer on July 19, 2011, 06:46:45 AM
Capcom doesn't care about your shitty money.

If they wanted it, they would have released Legends 3
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: STM on July 19, 2011, 06:47:59 AM
I wonder how good Capcom's security on their website is.

Guess we'll find out very soon.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Protoman Blues on July 19, 2011, 06:49:54 AM
Capcom doesn't care about your shitty money.

If they wanted it, they would have released Legends 3

That's the thing though. I really never though this game would make them a profit, because outside of MM fans, I really didn't believe anyone was going to buy it. So I can understand it being canceled. But to go out of your way to pump this game up when the profitability of it was always in question? That's douchebaggery at its finest.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Police Girl on July 19, 2011, 06:50:16 AM
Capcom doesn't care about your shitty money.

If they wanted it, they would have released Legends 3

Technically you are right.

They don't give two shits about game sales/demand unless its Japanese.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on July 19, 2011, 06:58:30 AM
PB pretty much said it all, but yeah. I am profusely disgusted. I have never felt such disappointment toward a gaming company ever. This is far too big a spit in the face to all Legends fans to ever live down.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: ParasiteBirth on July 19, 2011, 06:59:33 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/09ik9.jpg)
(http://i53.tinypic.com/oqc5fm.jpg)
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: ViperAcidZX on July 19, 2011, 06:59:48 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/xHc3K.jpg)
Thanks a -- [tornado fang]ing -- lot, Capcom! You've raised our hopes and dreams of seeing one of Inafune's most under-appreciated works appearing on a new generation handheld, got all of us excited with every behind-the-scenes video you posted and whatnot, and have the [tornado fang]ing nerve to get a bunch of us together to make enemy designs for you and take ALL OF THAT and shattered it like [tornado fang]ing stain glass window at a church.
I'm really hope you're proud of yourselves. o//////o
Protoman Blues is right now money with this one.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Flame on July 19, 2011, 07:02:46 AM
Im not a big Legends fan either PB, but its the principle of the thing. They pretty much like you said, pulled a douchebag moment SO big I dont think any gaming company can or ever will top it for a very long time. they gave the fans the finger, and shattered the hope and excitement that THEY THEMSELVES had built up. They [tornado fang]ing trolled the fanbase that gives them money, and as such, they will not get my money. never said I wont buy their games if one ever comes out that strikes my fancy, ill just either pirate it or buy used so they dont see a cent from me.


I wonder how good Capcom's security on their website is.

Guess we'll find out very soon.
Hoping it actually happens. Capcom DDoS'd would be glorious.

Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Phi on July 19, 2011, 07:03:24 AM
Like i posted on another thread:
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Like hell. They're too busy laughing behind their piles of money. They don't care. Much like Square Enix, but even they seem to acknowledge what their fans want.

Atlus and Nintendo on the other hand, no matter what people may think of them, still know how to deliver fresh experiences that their fans WANT.

They're not passionate. That's the key thing. Sure, MM9 and 10 are great, but what next? I for one will be sorely disappointed if they release yet ANOTHER 8-bit MM adventure. I'd love to see MM11, but they have to get with the times. Maybe i'm alone here, but i'm getting tired of them using 8-bit. The nostalgia was great for the previous 2, but that was it. This is 2011.

In all fairness, even Legends 3 didn't look like much of a step up from 2 graphically. But i'll give them the benefit of the doubt in that area, since that was it's first return to the franchise. And it looked hella fun. People like to hate on Nintendo, but they're way of innovating new games like Galaxy, Donkey Kong, Kirby (etc.) has always been beyond that of Capcom.

I still enjoy MegaMan, sure. But they have been really lazy with the franchise as of late.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Archer on July 19, 2011, 07:05:04 AM
Honestly guys, Blame Inafune for abandoning this project and leaving the staff clueless.

Hoping it actually happens. Capcom DDoS'd would be glorious.

Seriously? Doing that just because some game you wanted didn't come out? This is the kind of retarded thing I'd expect from the Sonic fanbase, except none of them are actually smart enough to know how.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: OKeijiDragon on July 19, 2011, 07:09:39 AM
Seriously? Doing that just because some game you wanted didn't come out? This is the kind of retarded thing I'd expect from the Sonic fanbase, except none of them are actually smart enough to know how.
You haven't paid attention to the Sonic fanbase in a while have you?
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Flame on July 19, 2011, 07:11:20 AM
Its more of a way to show them how much they have pissed off fans. A LOT of em too.

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Honestly guys, Blame Inafune for abandoning this project and leaving the staff clueless.
I was talking with a friend about this earlier.

If anything, he would have become a scapegoat for this. Inafune had already put up with Capcoms bullshit for a while, and got sick of the way it worked. He began badmouthing capcom's policies, and it was only a matter of time before they just fire him. So he left, feeling that with the hype and the dev team, it could happen. Not to mention Capcom DID promise us at LEAST a prototype. Im pretty sure even HE expected that to at least happen, and was confident the fan base wouldnt let him down. while we "should have seen it coming" at the same time, we didnt, otherwise we wouldnt be discussing it here now. We all expected at least a prototype.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: TheDivine on July 19, 2011, 07:12:07 AM
You haven't paid attention to the Sonic fanbase in a while have you?

>Sort of retarded thing I'd expect from the Sonic Fanbase, but they aren't smart enough to know how.
>Haven't paid much attention to the Sonic Fanbase, have you?

>Saying that the Sonic Fanbase is smart enough to be retarded.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Krystal on July 19, 2011, 07:13:40 AM
I mean, really now, cancelling it before the prototype and not even releasing the prototype after cancelling for us to have at least something? So mean ._.

Are games really about how much people will pay to play them? Sure a company needs to do business, but what happened to having fun, developing a dedicated fanbase, and creating memories for kids :<

I wonder how much they're not actually telling us =w= Really want to know what this 'criteria' was...
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Nekomata on July 19, 2011, 07:14:26 AM
You haven't paid attention to the Sonic fanbase in a while have you?
You know I'd really like to think that the fanbase of a dead franchise would be above a group of bickering furry manchildren that will rant endlessly if a new game in the series is in any way shape or form different from a mediocre Megadrive game from 1991.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Flame on July 19, 2011, 07:14:53 AM
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I wonder how much they're not actually telling us =w= Really want to know what this 'criteria' was...
   
Criteria was Inafune. nuff said.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Satoryu on July 19, 2011, 07:17:19 AM
I was gonna write a whole opinion piece on this, but it's not worth it. I find all of the whining and moaning and threatening and trolling deplorable, and that all that do such don't deserve Legends 3. And I'm sure even if the game came out, at least half of the world would still be giving Capcom [parasitic bomb] because it didn't live up to their expectations. Years of hype and anticipation wasted. You know, like what happens to every video game nowadays.

That's all.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: CephiYumi on July 19, 2011, 07:22:03 AM
Be disappointed, sure

Don't be arrogant and self-entitled
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Phi on July 19, 2011, 07:26:10 AM
I was gonna write a whole opinion piece on this, but it's not worth it. I find all of the whining and moaning and threatening and trolling deplorable, and that all that do such don't deserve Legends 3. And I'm sure even if the game came out, at least half of the world would still be giving Capcom [parasitic bomb] because it didn't live up to their expectations. Years of hype and anticipation wasted. You know, like what happens to every video game nowadays.

That's all.

I'd hardly call complaining deplorable. It's 100% justified (not the threatening and trolling aspect). Capcom screwed us over BIG TIME. Period.

I don't know how fans would have handled the game if it did come out, but i'm sure most of RPM would enjoy it. Hell, probably many other fans of the series as well. We've waited way too long for this, could we have really afforded to spit it back at Capcom's face? Especially with the massive fan support, it couldn't have been a total flop.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Nekomata on July 19, 2011, 07:31:09 AM
I don't know how fans would have handled the game if it did come out, but i'm sure most of RPM would enjoy it. Hell, probably many other fans of the series as well. We've waited way too long for this, could we have really afforded to spit it back at Capcom's face? Especially with the massive fan support.
Hey remember that other game people were waiting 14 years (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_Nukem_Forever) for? Remember how it turned out to be terrible in every possible way?
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: The Great Gonzo on July 19, 2011, 07:34:07 AM
Hey remember that other game people were waiting 14 years (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_Nukem_Forever) for? Remember how it turned out to be terrible in every possible way?

But at least it defied the odds and CAME OUT! ;_;
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Archer on July 19, 2011, 07:37:38 AM
lol their facebook page is getting spammed

real mature, guys
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: TheDivine on July 19, 2011, 07:39:07 AM
lol their facebook page is getting spammed

real mature, guys

My friend is all up on that with the "[tornado fang] you" and the whatnot. I asked him how it felt to get trolled harder than hes ever been trolled before by a game company and he [tornado fang]ing snapped. Incredible.

This is why no one takes the Mega Man fanbase seriously. 'Cause you're all 12 and dumb as [parasitic bomb].
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Phi on July 19, 2011, 07:41:03 AM
Hey remember that other game people were waiting 14 years (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_Nukem_Forever) for? Remember how it turned out to be terrible in every possible way?

If i remember correctly, the most footage we've seen regarding that were some tech demo clips, which didn't even show much besides the game engine. Mind you, that was before we got recent footage when the game was (for the 80th time) given a "final" release date. And it looked horrible. We barely got any progress on that game, it was mostly being developed behind the scenes. Nothing but rumors flying everywhere.

While Legends 3 was out in the open with full fan support. A blog for fans to contribute ideas and concepts, and a decent amount of footage considering it was still only at it's early stage. And the gameplay looked faithful to the originals with added moves and attacks that actually looked fun to use. Unlike Nukem, which always looked "Meh" at most.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: ViperAcidZX on July 19, 2011, 07:42:22 AM
lol their facebook page is getting spammed

real mature, guys
Can you send me a link? I need something to cheer me up after Capcom arch-douchebagry.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: TheDivine on July 19, 2011, 07:43:36 AM
Can you send me a link? I need something to cheer me up after Capcom arch-douchebagry.

I got yo back, dawg.

http://www.facebook.com/capcomunity?sk=wall&filter=1
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: The Great Gonzo on July 19, 2011, 07:48:12 AM
This is why no one takes the Mega Man fanbase seriously. 'Cause you're all 12 and dumb as [parasitic bomb].

Imagine this:

You work hard on something. You're supporting it the entire time, even when its status is dubious. The higher=ups constantly assure you it's going to be fine.

Then all your hard work and hope was for nothing, because it was unceremoniously canned, and no one received any compensation whatsoever. They didn't even tell you why it was dropped, beyond some vague excuse.

That's us, and likely the devteam as well.

Just sayin'.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: ViperAcidZX on July 19, 2011, 07:49:19 AM
LOL starting to remind me of 4chan's level of trolling/nerd-raging. >0<
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: STM on July 19, 2011, 07:49:24 AM
Oh Jesus...

I mean, I'm not particularly happy about this announcement either, but that's not the way to go around showing it. The Facebook thing. Stupid ninja posts.

Please, Mega Man fanbase. Don't try to go neck and neck with the Sonic fanbase for most retarded. Even the My Little Pony dumbasses aren't that bad.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: TheDivine on July 19, 2011, 07:56:19 AM
Imagine this:

You work hard on something. You're supporting it the entire time, even when its status is dubious. The higher=ups constantly assure you it's going to be fine.

Then all your hard work and hope was for nothing, because it was unceremoniously canned, and no one received any compensation whatsoever. They didn't even tell you why it was dropped, beyond some vague excuse.

That's us, and likely the devteam as well.

Just sayin'.

I imagined this. My first thought wasn't "I have nothing left to live for" as I have seen many people say.
It wasn't "[tornado fang] Capcom rahrahrahrahrahrah"
Nor "I'm going to burn that [tornado fang]ing company building to the ground!!!!!111ONE"

Or any of the other bullshit I keep seeing.

You know what it was?

"Aw well. [parasitic bomb] happens."

Posted on: July 19, 2011, 12:50:30 AM
(http://i51.tinypic.com/2nggd8m.jpg) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megaman_Legends_3)

I like how you couldn't get that [parasitic bomb] to stick on Wikipedia, so you did it to the MMN wiki. A wiki no one gives a [tornado fang] about anymore.

Good on you.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Phi on July 19, 2011, 08:00:56 AM
I think this thread is pretty much over.

The bottom line: Capcom made a very stupid move, and if there is another big project that is generally underrated/unknown in the world of gaming... don't hype it up. Be happy, but don't go parading around the place cheering 'sanctuary'. Or there will be a possibility of getting your hopes crushed. It sucks not knowing whats next for the blue bomber now that this happened, but only time will reveal it.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: The Great Gonzo on July 19, 2011, 08:01:43 AM
I imagined this. My first thought wasn't "I have nothing left to live for" as I have seen many people say.
It wasn't "[tornado fang] Capcom rahrahrahrahrahrah"
Nor "I'm going to burn that [tornado fang]ing company building to the ground!!!!!111ONE"

Or any of the other bullshit I keep seeing.

You know what it was?

"Aw well. [parasitic bomb] happens."

Oh.

Well, I just hoped that eventually, you might learn how to empathize. But no, you're going to keep sneering at us for being justifiably angry. For all these comparisons to the Sonic fandom and whatnot, at least SEGA and others didn't pull this kind of dick move.


Also--DO NOT quote me on this, but according to Mom, EA has or is going to buy out Capcom. (Keep in mind, they already bought Pop Cap (http://techcrunch.com/2011/07/12/confirmed-ea-buys-popcap-games-for-750-million-plus-earn-out/)) If it's true, then this may have been a factor in MML3's cancellation...and we may owe Capcom an apology. Oops.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: STM on July 19, 2011, 08:01:48 AM
>No one cares about MMN's wiki anymore.

...Hm. I smell a venture I can undertake. Thank you, you magnificent bastard. 8D
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: irgpie on July 19, 2011, 08:02:10 AM
I like how you couldn't get that [parasitic bomb] to stick on Wikipedia, so you did it to the MMN wiki. A wiki no one gives a [tornado fang] about anymore.

Good on you.
Because I was totally the one that actually did that just because I screencapped it
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: TheDivine on July 19, 2011, 08:02:26 AM
 /highfive

Edit: @STM

@ the person above me:  Yup.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Flame on July 19, 2011, 08:04:56 AM
EA and Capcom..?

Not sure I want...
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Archer on July 19, 2011, 08:05:36 AM
EA has or is going to buy out Capcom.

The only possible way to make Capcom shitter than it already is
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Krystal on July 19, 2011, 08:07:08 AM
I feel really sorry for all the developers, they seemed really into this D:

...EA. Really? Where did your mum obtain this information
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Blackhook on July 19, 2011, 08:07:56 AM
(http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/4739/cryingindian1.jpg)
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Flame on July 19, 2011, 08:08:47 AM
Wouldnt put too much stock in it. I remember a few years ago it was also rumored that Capcom was going to trade Mega Man for Splinter Cell.

It never happened.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: ViperAcidZX on July 19, 2011, 08:11:19 AM
So now do we do for Mega Man-related news? Start putting up updates on Rosenkreuzstilette ~Freudenstachel's~ development, because with Isemiya vanishing into the Shadow Realm, WOMI is doing all the work now (and I should of been adding that to my own RKS thread of all things)?
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: The Great Gonzo on July 19, 2011, 08:12:04 AM
...EA. Really? Where did your mum obtain this information

To be perfectly honest, not sure--she may have heard it from Dad--which is why I said not to quote me on it.

But it would explain a lot...

Wouldnt put too much stock in it. I remember a few years ago it was also rumored that Capcom was going to trade Mega Man for Splinter Cell.

I believe that was just a GameInformer April Fools' joke.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Flame on July 19, 2011, 08:15:24 AM
Still spread though.

My initial reaction to L3's cancellation was to immediately think April fools, until the sinking feeling set in and the realization that it's nowhere near April.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Archer on July 19, 2011, 09:15:12 AM
(http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/8650/1311058720625.png)
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Frozen Potato on July 19, 2011, 09:51:04 AM
Quote
Nick McCauley :According to an employee of Capcom (and he said this over a year ago actually) on an anonymous website, MML3 was never meant to be a game. It was a ruse by Capcom and Nintendo to sell more 3ds's.

He kept repeating that statement in FB....
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Fragman on July 19, 2011, 11:33:11 AM
My immediate reaction:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x74TkNlP6tc

Really Capcom.  If it's not Street Fighter or Resident Evil you don't want to support it.  If you don't care about Megaman anymore then sell the blasted trademark to someone who does.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Align on July 19, 2011, 02:50:13 PM
I don't know... on one hand,
>Canceling MML3.
>DMC5 is outsourced.
>Dead rising 2 was ok then they release a reskin of the same game for full price.
>Selling shitty RE5 minigames.
>Make a decent casual entry fighter(SSF4) then proceed to go too far and make the shitfest that's MvC3.
>No ace attorney games outside of japan.
>MH3 is best selling Wii game for weeks but capcom refuses to release more MH games because they expected more sales, IE they [tornado fang]'d up hard with their business plan.
>Literally every single developer that made games you knew and loved as a child has left capcom.

...on the other hand, they released Ghost Trick not even a year ago.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Archer on July 19, 2011, 05:27:03 PM
...on the other hand, they released Ghost Trick not even a year ago.

And Ghost Trick is the only good Capcom game they've made.

Ever.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Karai on July 19, 2011, 05:30:26 PM
Haha, oh wow. A Legendary sized [tornado fang] YOU!
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Flame on July 19, 2011, 06:47:11 PM
He kept repeating that statement in FB....
If that's true, then Capcom is a bigger dick than we thought.

Also, thats still a lot of money to spend on phoney development.

All to help Nintendo sell the 3DS, which many people would have bought anyway for the other games on it. In fact, many of the L3 hopefuls were already gonna get it, L3 just making them all the more convinced. And of course, now that this has happenbed, many people are actually getting RID of their 3DS's, mainly the ones who bought it solely for L3.

So... Whats the point..? Was it worth it when now not only are many getting rid of their 3DS, but deciding to never send another penny Capcom's way..? Nintendo still got the money for the 3DS sales, regardless on if people get rid of their 3DS... (any impact would probably be pretty negligible) but Capcom doesnt, unless they are getting a share.

so.. wtf..?

Someone really needs to get a comment from inafune on all this.

Quote
Really Capcom.  If it's not Street Fighter or Resident Evil you don't want to support it.  If you don't care about Megaman anymore then sell the blasted trademark to someone who does.
Like Inti. They would give him the love he deserves
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Archer on July 19, 2011, 06:50:58 PM
Someone really needs to get a comment from inafune on all this.

Who the [tornado fang] cares? He's irrelevant now.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Rin on July 19, 2011, 07:00:47 PM
Ha, ha, ha, ha.

Bravo, Capcom!
Excellent trolling right there.
Way to [parasitic bomb] on everybody who friggin' supported the idea of this game.
You could have at least released that demo/prototype/prologue thingy but noooo, why should you? LET'S MAKE MORE SFIV REHASHES!
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Waifu on July 19, 2011, 07:01:31 PM
WHAT?!!!
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Flame on July 19, 2011, 08:02:15 PM
Who the [tornado fang] cares? He's irrelevant now.
The MegaMan fanbase cares. Because its interesting to hear his opinion, having worked there, and with megaman for so long.

Also, its fun to hear him badmouth Capcom.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: STM on July 19, 2011, 08:03:25 PM
Ha, ha, ha, ha.

Bravo, Capcom!
Excellent trolling right there.
Way to [parasitic bomb] on everybody who friggin' supported the idea of this game.
You could have at least released that demo/prototype/prologue thingy but noooo, why should you? LET'S MAKE MORE SFIV REHASHES!

Super Street Fighter 4 Arcade Edition 2012 Edition. Coming soon.

We've now made Dan the best character in the game, but he's stupidly hard to use in that all his controls are RANDOMIZED every match!
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: megaman24681012 on July 19, 2011, 08:25:17 PM
I don't post often, to avoid other members badmouthing me; but I'll make an exception now.


I look at our reactions, we are devastated, Capcom has abandoned our trust, we have left the weightless promises they have given us.

But now I wonder.... Now what?  :'(
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Acid on July 19, 2011, 08:44:26 PM
But now I wonder.... Now what?  :'(

Now, Mega Man is dead.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Mirby on July 19, 2011, 09:14:45 PM
I think Inafune, wherever the hell he is, should somehow try to get the MM license from Capcom so that the one person in any sort of position of power that actually CARED about the franchise (it is his creation, after all) would be in charge.

Not like that will ever happen, of course, but it would be nice. Then, maybe, the series would get what it deserves, instead of being thrown away like it wasn't worth it. I mean, really, there is no way this can be put in a good light, simply because its nature is incapable of that. \

If Capcom is really that concerned about making money, maybe they should take a cue from the companies that are making money, and actually give the fans what they want. Or, at the very least, listen to them. But that's already been said.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: GuardianHX on July 19, 2011, 09:46:03 PM
The cancellation of Legends 3 makes me feel like I was a cute little puppy being teased with a biscuit, only to be slapped in the face and locked up in a pen instead.

I have no interest in the 3DS for the moment... Hopefully something good comes along besides the OoT remake.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Waifu on July 19, 2011, 10:50:23 PM
Relevant

Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Flame on July 19, 2011, 10:56:53 PM
they had also cut support for the Wii and 3DS (old news though) so that was another indicator.
http://mynintendonews.com/2011/05/23/nintendo-capcom-announces-that-its-going-to-cut-nintendo-3ds-and-nintendo-wii-support/

also relevant.



where
Guile = the fanbase
Bison = Capcom
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Dexter Dexter on July 19, 2011, 11:05:47 PM
Capcom... no, CapCON... I shall swear an oath of revenge... and I shall see to it that I get it. O:<
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Nekomata on July 19, 2011, 11:26:35 PM
they had also cut support for the Wii and 3DS (old news though) so that was another indicator.
http://mynintendonews.com/2011/05/23/nintendo-capcom-announces-that-its-going-to-cut-nintendo-3ds-and-nintendo-wii-support/
That's ok, all of their good games are on PS3/360/PSP anyways.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Flame on July 19, 2011, 11:53:06 PM
Hey anyone have that one image, Its the one on my sig, but Trigger is labeled "Legends 3 project" and the car "Capcom" or something. I remember seeing it a while back.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Gotham Ranger on July 20, 2011, 12:02:13 AM
I wasn't all too attatched to the project, but I do see how much this sucks to the people who were firmly behind this and apart of the community for it.

Thing is, it's been apparent that Capcom has been making business decisions lately that they think are going to make them money for one reason or another, no matter how unpopular. And when it comes to the Legends series..

Mega Man Megamix Vol 2, an interview in the back of the book.

Quote
INAFUNE: I quite liked "Legends" as well. There hasn't been much progress on that front, but I'm waiting for the right opportunity to bring it back into the spotlight. From a business perspective, "Legends" actually put us into the red. (laughs) Very few of my titles ever went into the red, but the three "Legends" titles somehow managed to do so. That's not to say that they didn't sell well enough... we just didn't recoup our development costs.

ARIGA: Does that include "The Misadventures of Tron Bonne?"

INAFUNE: Yes. Considering that the "Mega Man" series has sold 16 million copies overall, "The Misadventures of Tron Bonne" definitely stood out in a bad way. (laughs)

Legends, no matter how popular with the fans, failed in business terms. What's to make anyone believe Legends 3 would have done any better? Sorry guys, but video games are still a business, after all.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Hypershell on July 20, 2011, 12:15:13 AM
That precedent was set a decade ago with no follow-up (barring two unenhanced-for-PSP ports, nobody should have to tell you why those didn't sell).  What really pisses me off here, is that they did this before the Prototype Version saw release, which is to say they can't even be assed to follow through with a damn "test the waters" prologue, well after said game's intended release date.

Copy/paste from my Devroom comment after the break:



Okay, be honest. Most of us in the last decade or so have considered Legends 3 to be something of a pipe dream, and the minute the "green-light" story first hit the blog, we all were snapped into the reality that this "Project" may well not see a retail release.

However, I must say, it is an extreme dick move to every fan to do this before the Prototype Version saw release. The essence of the Prototype Version, as it was originally advertised, was to offer us the chance to see what the "greenlight meeting" people saw. To see where the game was, what direction it was going in, and what kind of spark it could light in those who played it. Now, WELL PAST THE ORIGINAL RELEASE DATE, we're told that will never be. Because the delay to "improve" this product lead to it never happening.

Capcom, if you have *ANY* respect for what the Devroom was attempting (even if it did scare the crap out of your close-minded big-wigs in the higher offices), you could have at least saved the obvious public relations bullshit, which is frankly insulting to our intelligence. If you were uncertain the Prototype Version was to see release, you should have said so the moment the so-called "delay" was first announced. I smell an obvious rat in that sequence of events, and I find that more offensive than the cancellation of Legends 3 itself. It says that the very spirit of the Devroom failed, not because the game wasn't released, but because the company that created the Devroom refused to actually believe in it.

My condolences, and eternal appreciation, to the entire Legends 3 staff for the extreme headache you went to to bring us what "development" content you did to try and involve us. I know you were met with resistance, I know that to some it challenged every fiber of what "game development" is, and I am sincerely grateful for your efforts to break that trend.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: ViperAcidZX on July 20, 2011, 01:03:49 AM
My immediate reaction:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x74TkNlP6tc

Really Capcom.  If it's not Street Fighter or Resident Evil you don't want to support it.  If you don't care about Megaman anymore then sell the blasted trademark to someone who does.
Quoted for the truth! Honestly, does Capcom think a frickin' rehash of Residel Evil's Mercenaries mini-game, SFIV, and [tornado fang]ing up Devil May Cry is a good business move on their part? Can't wait for SUPER ULTRA MEGA Street Fighter IV Ultimate Non-stop Climax NEO Arcade Edition PLUS 3D HD REMIX. </sarcasm>
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: VixyNyan on July 20, 2011, 01:11:36 AM
Games are creativity.
Games are ideas formed from your own mind that becomes interactivity for you and the consumer playing said games.
Games are passionate unified interest between you and anyone else that share your passionate interest.
Games are art.
Games are music~ <3
Games are fun. FUN!!

Games goes WAY beyond business. With the right team and creative mind, you can see that the term "Video Games" offers so much more for developers and for the fanbase.

Let's take Cave as example here. Cave are mainly an arcade bullet-hell shooter company (they made games like ESPgaluda, DoDonPachi, Mushihimesama, Deathsmiles, Guwange, and so on) but they also make all kinds of other type of games with unexpected twists, like Nin2-Jump on XBLA. It's simple side-scrolling arcade action, where you pick up items to later reach the goal in a level. It's a simple concept that still works. The thing with Cave in general, is that they actually listen to their fanbase, and for them, it's OK if the games don't sell so much, but here in lies the reason why Cave games actually sells, even at the steep price they offer for both the arcade cabinets and their games on the 360. Not only do they have people that worked for decades and has still stayed in the company to develop, illustrate (drawings) and compose (music) new materials for their products, their games are set at a difficulty range that balance their income, specially in the arcades.

The drawings and artwork for their characters, backgrounds and overall appearance for their games are beautiful and also adorable~ But it also feels familiar. These games have characters and personalities you feel related to in some shape or form. Not to mention that the music made by Manabu Namiki and Yousuke Yasui all have this kind of unexpected love and effort put into them, with a specific sound font you don't normally hear in todays media anymore. It's mostly classic style game music, using Yamaha sound chips, to create melodies that actually gets stuck in your mind and that are catchy. And Yasui himself intentionally composes his music to sound like Mega Drive or 90s Arcade style music, and that in itself is a unique thing to hear and enjoy. If you want more examples on what their team at Supersweep composed, listen to the Mega Man Network Transmission (Capcom) and Battle Garegga (Raizing/8ing) soundtrack, and thank me later~ :cookie:

I can also mention Vanillaware and George Kamitani for their effort of creating visually appealing artwork, characters and animations that makes your eyes glimmer with love and excitement. Their latest game will be Dragon's Crown, but they have also made games like Dungeons & Dragons: Shadow over Mystara (for Capcom), Princess Crown, Grim Grimoire, Odin Sphere, Muramasa: The Demon Blade and a few other beautiful games, so you can see why these games are still fun to play and appeal to a fanbase that enjoys these types of games.

Even in the early 90s, WayForward has a lot of spriters and composers on their team to create unique experiences that you don't see much of anymore, and their characters are mostly cute-looking but also has sex appeal, but not in a borderline way. Awesome games they have made lately is Shantae, Sigma Star Saga, Contra 4, Mighty Flip Champs and Mighty Milky Way, and there will be more later on, like Mighty Switch Force on 3DS. Not to mention that a personal friend of mine (James Montagna) is on their team designing and structuring the maps for their games, like in Shantae: Risky's Revenge, and the maps makes you explore so much of each area and use your skills and items to unlock new path, and that's a inspiring and addicting way to lengthen the game's replay value and the game's overall length. Kinda like the 2D Metroid and Castlevania games. And Jake "Virt" Kaufman's music is so over-the-top and exciting too, they are in a style that takes you back to the classic days of video games, but adds new elements into the mix too, and his compositions are unique too. Look into his stuff at Big Lion Music (http://www.biglionmusic.com/).

I could go on like this, but there actually are fun games that don't really focus on business and still wins the hearts of their fanbase and are unique original ideas with twists and memorable lovable characters in them as well. Like Capcom's Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective on DS, Marvelous Entertainment's Half-Minute Hero on PSP&XBLA, GameFreak's DrillDozer on GBA, CyberConnect2's Solatorobo: Red the Hunter on DS, DreamRift's Monster Tale on DS, Mistwalker's The Last Story on Wii, MonolithSoft's Xenoblade Chronicles on Wii, Ganbarion's Pandora's Tower on Wii, G.rev's Mamoru-kun wa Norowarete Shimatta!, Konami's Otomedius & Parodius & Gradius series, Capcom's Power Stone games, Psikyo's Gunbird games and countless others. I will stop here but I hope you get the idea about how games are fun interactive experiences for both developers and the fanbase, and their existence will be remembered by all the passionate gamers for years, decades and millenniums to come. <3
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: ViperAcidZX on July 20, 2011, 01:45:53 AM
(click to show/hide)

Quoting this for truth, too.

Yes, even the indie side of video game has people who are passionate of their favorite games they'd make tribute or homages to them. Example: ZUN's Touhou series (because these games has STG references all over the place); Konjak's Games Noitu Love 2: Devolution (to me, this feels like a tribute to Treasure's 2D games like Gunstar Heroes and Mischief Makers); Twilight Frontier's MegaMari, New Super Marisa Land, DynaMarisa (or should I say Patchouli Defense Force 2017), SITER SKAIN's Tale of ALLTYNEX games (ALLTYNEX Second, RefleX, and Kamui); Yotsubane's Crimzon Clover; [erka:es] Rosenkreuzstilette series; Cold Beam Game's Beat Hazard (this game is too awesome for words now that the Beat Hazard Ultra add-on fixes a lot of issues of the original game); Askiisoft's Tower of Heaven (best 8-bit music I've heard in my life); and Reverge Lab's Skullgirls of all things (this game got dedication by the mother-lode).

I wish I could go on, but I'm starting to forget some stuff plus I don't want to look like some know-it-all weeaboo.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Gaia on July 20, 2011, 02:09:12 AM
Let's not forget Traveller's Tales, who you all know who is responsible for the game that is Sonic 3D blast; has an affectionate series of satirical games known as Lego Star Wars. Even if the lego people don't speak (this ultimately results into some humorous gestures, such as Luke Skywalker accidentally slicing off 3PO's head or even that moment in the final act of "Rookies" in Lego Star Wars 3, which was one of the clones gave an affectonate "[tornado fang] you" before blowing the station up.. without vocals, aside from yells, grunts, sighs, and screams and the occasional "arrgh"), you got a sense of humor that Sega took like what, 10 years to get it back? Not to sound like a fanboy but damn. Nobody even mentions the cutscenes when they talk anything lego in the games.

Let's not forget Cave Story in the indie scene too, along with certain games that have actual humor that would make you well, laugh.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: gamefreak202020 on July 20, 2011, 02:23:43 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoM5sT_XZxA - This sums up this dickmove nicely.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Karasai♪ on July 20, 2011, 03:57:51 AM
Its as if Capcom were a tall person, holding MML3 up in the sky, as I try to reach it. Then I get a punch to the balls as Capcom crushes MML3 in my face.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: AquaTeamV3 on July 20, 2011, 05:16:49 AM
I decided to post my thoughts on the matter here (http://bustercannon.zymichost.com/legendsneverdie.htm). I do hope that there's some way to get the project going again (or at least the prototype in the hands of the fans), because Capcom really pulled a jerk move.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: The Great Gonzo on July 20, 2011, 05:28:51 AM
Well, I read your article. I'm kinda torn on the boycotting issue--how would Capcom know our intentions, if they did this? At the very least, the marketing department seems to be out of touch with reality (as in, they all moved to the backwards antimatter planet of Qwaard); there's no telling how they'd react.

On the other hand...support what? We don't know if they'll make any new MM games in the future--hell, we don't even know if Rockman Online will survive--and I think all Capcom has planned are rehashes of games people already played full price for. If we buy those rehashes, what's to stop them from assuming that they were right in dumping MML3 like this?


Also, left a comment on PRC replying to a couple of dickweeds who think we should all instantly move on from this, because if we don't, we're just childish idiots who can't handle reality. Context is a very important thing...
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: AquaTeamV3 on July 20, 2011, 05:44:19 AM
What I meant is that we can try to support other petitions that are trying to generate some buzz for Legends.  The Facebook and Legends Station art-mail are two examples of that.  I don't know what degree of effect they'll have, but it's better than nothing.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: IQ-0 on July 20, 2011, 06:07:16 AM
According to one mag I read, it worked for Megaman 7 and X3. Those almost never came out but fan support pulled through.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: kosmos on July 20, 2011, 06:16:06 AM
Boycotting Capcom will do nothing, the Mega Man community is not big enough and even if we were as big as the RE community, it will do nothing. And the worst thing is that it will portray us as an immature community.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Nekomata on July 20, 2011, 07:05:59 AM
You can boycott them all you want, it won't stop them from making millions off of the next monster hunter title they make.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: The Great Gonzo on July 20, 2011, 07:12:26 AM
Boycotting Capcom will do nothing, the Mega Man community is not big enough and even if we were as big as the RE community, it will do nothing. And the worst thing is that it will portray us as an immature community.

...we have to continue to support a company that not only epic-league trolled us (for lack of a better term and because I want to stop repeating myself), but won't tell us why? Yeah, lots of people are jumping the 3DS ship, but did Capcom at least try porting MML3 to someplace else? They aren't saying. Was the game just not shaping up very well? Maybe, but it was only ~25% done; why not use the other 75% to fix its problems? If they didn't think it'd sell well, why not release the Prototype version (a.k.a. the sales test) as planned?

Plus, Capcom has apparently forgotten all other languages and only speaks Money now. So there's that to keep in mind.

Like I said, I'm torn on this, but really--until Capcom gives us some answers, why shouldn't we at least be allowed to be angry about all this?

You can boycott them all you want, it won't stop them from making millions off of the next monster hunter title they make.

Maybe so, and maybe Capcom will never get the hint. But we shouldn't be forced to put up with this.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Tsukishiro on July 20, 2011, 09:59:41 AM
Hey, guys. I heard about this unfortunate business that has occurred, and I went rummaging around the net for some additional info...

What I found instead was this:

http://projectlegends.aeroforums.com/ (http://projectlegends.aeroforums.com/)

Apparently, many of the people from the Devroom, among other places, have decided to take up the cause of completing MML3, even if it must be in the format of a fangame to do so, and are looking for more people to help them out. Seems like the fallout may have a silver lining to it, how ever bittersweet it may be, ne?

Also, on a related note, should I leave a notice of this in the Fan Creations section, since this technically does count as a fan game?
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: STM on July 20, 2011, 10:08:15 AM
That'll get C&D'd quickly.

Well, at least there's always this. Get it before it's gone.
Legends 3 Flutter Theme (http://www.capcom.co.jp/rockman/dash3/sound/bgm3.mp3)
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Tsukishiro on July 20, 2011, 10:28:14 AM
You mean "cease and desist"? I doubt it, considering that Capcom themselves said that they have no plans for MML3 at this time, and the fans are planning to call it something else, just to be sure that Capcom doesn't go and get all huffy about it. Not that Capcom would have a reason to get all huffy about it in the first place, so long as the fangame doesn't go and make any money...

Edit: By the by, where did you find that wonderful piece, STM?
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Rin on July 20, 2011, 10:53:02 AM
Edit: By the by, where did you find that wonderful piece, STM?

http://www.capcom.co.jp/rockman/dash3/sound/bgm3.mp3

lol

Also, you're pretty naive if you honestly think they won't go all cease & desist on their asses.
Just you wait.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Tsukishiro on July 20, 2011, 10:58:11 AM
Well, if they do, then it would officially make it clear that they are idiots, and worthy of the title of "Crapcom".

Besides that, there really no harm in actually trying until then, now is there?
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: The Great Gonzo on July 20, 2011, 12:49:42 PM
About that restoration project--as much as I doubt it'll work, I do admire the fans' dedication. But if Capcom is stupid enough to C&D it, then they'll just be digging themselves deeper. Much, much deeper.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Reaperoid on July 20, 2011, 05:13:24 PM
(in before I get an earful)

Now, I respect everyone's right to an opinion, but these opinions that I'm seeing aren't going to make this situation any better.
All I'm seeing is childrens' bickering, and I think that the community as a whole (if it isn't already dead or dying) needs to raise the bar. But that's my opinion.

Still... I have no shame in saying the following quote was part of a ban letter from 2008, sent to me by none other than PB. And I wouldn't even have logged in to post this if I didn't think it was appropriate.

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I've read some stuff that made me laugh, facepalm, and just shake my head in complete amazement. I mean really, what does Rockman truly mean to you?  Is he your religion, your God, your savior, your Scientology?  Is this series some kind of huge driving force in your life, as if the very thought of losing it means losing out on true happiness and everlasting peace?  Seriously, if it is, then please do me a favor and seek some kind of counseling or professional help.  It's. A. Video. Game. and IT. DOESN'T. MATTER.  It's entertainment.  It's leisure.  It's something to relax too after a long day of school or work.  It's certainly not something to cause someone stress.
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It's. A. Video. Game. and IT. DOESN'T. MATTER.

So what Capcom pretty much ruined one of your video game heroes. Can't be helped, just move on.
Surely you have other games you can play.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Kieran on July 20, 2011, 05:43:51 PM
A cease & desist is very unlikely.  Why would they start doing that [parasitic bomb] now, when they have left the dozens and dozens of other Megaman fan projects alone over the years?
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Sir Shademan on July 20, 2011, 06:53:56 PM
So it got cancelled. I am really quite disappointed but as it was always a possibility to begin with I don't feel the need to get all worked up about it.

Getting angry won't accomplish anything, there are many things the fanbase could do to still support Legends 3 but whining like little children and making threats aren't going to do anything to help.

Who knows, maybe they might continue the project on the PSVita. I'm crazy for hoping that, aren't I.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Ramzal on July 20, 2011, 07:34:28 PM
I didn't plan on getting it even if it did come out, so it's no loss for me. I would just like to say that I do not blame Capcom for putting up the red light for this. Megaman is no longer a block buster title. For them to make money back, they need to sell over 2 million copies throughout the country. Two. Million. Under no reason should anyone even think of a second that Megaman carries that much weight in it's name. Even if it had the most ground breaking gameplay, interesting characters, or great dialog (Which most Megaman games lack anyways.) This is a business, not a "lets give people entertainment just so we can take a financial hit! :D" Time. It's a video game. JUST A GAME. Not the end of the world. Hell, how the majority of you acted from that MML3 april fools stunt was flat out disturbing as it was, but thankfully this isn't so bad.

Seriously, chill. Out. If this is the ground breaking, life shaking event of your life that ruins the next few weeks of YOUR LIFE, then stop. Stop, take a nice long look at your life, get your priorities straight and actually start living for something past Megaman.

Oh and a sidenote for those who think that Inafune leaving has anything to do with this, I have this to say: Stop fooling yourselfs. Inafune hasn't worked on a direct Megaman title since X5, and past that he's merely been a producer. Producers don't have to do much at all, and they have very VERY little control over the direction of games, and more towards making it apparent to the masses that the project exists. Thats. It. He. Is. Not. The. Capcom. God. ... ... ...  However, I DO agree that the direction they've taken with DMC is odd, but Dante seems more and more like a silver-haired Duke Nuk'em since DMC4.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on July 20, 2011, 08:11:11 PM
Even if your project is not for profit, you can be sued for use of copyrighted material. They have every legal right to stop you from using their copyrighted material in your fan works. The only thing you're protected from is legally passing it off as a parody. Typically you're going to get a C&D before a lawsuit, since it's easier for them, but they can legally just toss the lawsuit at you right away.

Case in point: every DBZ fan game worth 2 cents has been shut down by Funimation, who holds an iron grip and a stone heart when it comes to this. Ever notice that the DBZ official games even, have [parasitic bomb] like "Goku TM" and [parasitic bomb]? They're super Nazis when it comes to their copyrighted material, especially DBZ.

Another classic example of this is the Star Trek series. Paramount went out of their way to send out cease and desist letters to FAN SITES. They crusaded against their own fan base with zero tolerance, shutting down countless Star Trek sites. How did the fans get around this? The parody loophole. Ever wonder why the majority of Star Trek sites have been parodies of Star Trek? Now you know. I think since then they've relaxed things a little, but I'm not sure.

Capcom and Konami have a history of encouraging fan creations, and fan sites. Capcom even has (or had at one point) fan site starter kits. I can't recall a C&D from Konami or Capcom ever. Feel free to inform me though if it has happened. With Capcom's ever changing and degrading management perhaps that will change, but I see no history of it.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: ಠ_ಠ on July 20, 2011, 08:25:50 PM
This just irrational optimism speaking, but maybe this whole cancellation thing is to get our attention. And just maybe it's a plan to condition our minds so we are overwhelmed with happiness when Capcom's all like "HAHA JUST KIDDING!, in fact here's what we've been working on since then." and they show us a bunch of awesome new content. Or maybe LulzSec saw that 4chan post and decided to [tornado fang] with us by making a fake announcement.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Acid on July 20, 2011, 08:27:05 PM
Optimism is a virtue.

Make sure you will never lose it.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: ಠ_ಠ on July 20, 2011, 08:34:30 PM
Also, ya'll gotta remember that lots of the stuff that was going to be in RMD3 was fan created, so Capcom doesn't really have rights to it. So all we'd have to do is something like this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narbacular_Drop) (read the part about "Valve's" Portal) for the parts that Capcom originally created.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Reaperoid on July 20, 2011, 08:55:35 PM
All fan-created content became property of Capcom when it was submitted. So to use it elsewhere would definitely get you into trouble.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Phi on July 20, 2011, 09:30:34 PM
... why is this thread still alive?
Title: Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Has Been Cancelled
Post by: Acid on July 20, 2011, 09:37:42 PM
Because MML3 is still cancelled?

You do have a point though. So, unless anyone has any objections, I hereby lock this thread.