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Other Things => Gaming => Topic started by: Solar on April 08, 2010, 01:31:14 AM
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Obviously until actually confirmed you should remain skeptical, but given Capcom's recent track record I'd say chances of this being real are high XD
Anyways, link to the story:
http://teamspooky.com/content/?cat=14
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*Jaw Drop*
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Pheonix Wright's second chance to be in a fighting game? (code reuse gal-ore) 8D
Can't wait for MvC3. Though, Will the roster be even bigger than TvC, MvC1, and MvC2? Can't wait.
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Disney better jump in on this one. Playable Uncle Scrooge from Ducktales with pogo stick cane would be just too awesome. 8D
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Disney better jump in on this one. Playable Uncle Scrooge from Ducktales with pogo stick cane would be just too awesome. 8D
I'd buy 10!
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PLAYABLE. BLUES.
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PLAYABLE. BLUES.
[tornado fang] YEAH! Protoman/Blues fans Unite!
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I'll call this guy "Leaky McSpoil"
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This game needs more Sigma
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As true as this sounds, I'm waiting until I hear more sources. Then I'll let my excitement explode.
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Hmm... I had the original MvC for PS1; pretty fun. Unlocking the characters was a blast! This is cool though.
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You know, after 2 playable slots in 9 and 10, I think Proto Man does indeed have a shot at this. ...which means we'd get a ZX or Starforce lead.
Or, for no Blues, we get Mega Man X and maybe Zero again, or possibly Roll Caskett? Or maybe ZX or Starforce again, which means WHAT AM I NEGOTIATING FOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUURRGGGGH
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Dante. [tornado fang]ing. Dante.
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Of course we want Dante.
Although I really wouldn't mind Nero's arm for grabbing annoying Turtlers out of their tactic.
FORGET ZANGIEF!!!
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Dante. [tornado fang]ing. Dante.
If it would mean that Deadpool could kick his ass, sure! 8D
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They need to bring back the option of having multiples of a character in your team so mine can be Deadpool, Deadpool and Deadpool 8D
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A Spidey-Deadpool team would be pretty bad-ass.
They need to bring in some more Marvel characters, like Nova, Spider-Woman, She-Hulk, and Dazzler! 8D
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I wanna play Jubilee soooo bad.
But first I want individual character themes back, like MvsC1! That's top priority!!!
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That's right; they did have those. I'm glad I had that game!
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A Spidey-Deadpool team would be pretty bad-ass.
They need to bring in some more Marvel characters, like Nova, Spider-Woman, She-Hulk, and Dazzler! 8D
Carnage. [tornado fang]ing. Carnage.
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As true as this sounds, I'm waiting until I hear more sources. Then I'll let my excitement explode.
As will I.
Carnage. [tornado fang]ing. Carnage.
This too. 8D
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Ok, so the Marvel.com editor tweets he's at Honolulu to show the media something super secret, Capcom's Captivate is at Honolulu. Same guy also mentions it'll all be revealed next week, the NDA for Captivate ends next week.
Now lets try putting two and two together XD
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Ok, so the Marvel.com editor tweets he's at Honolulu to show the media something super secret, Capcom's Captivate is at Honolulu. Same guy also mentions it'll all be revealed next week, the NDA for Captivate ends next week.
Now lets try putting two and two together XD
Yeah, it's looking all but confirmed now. >0<
I like how there's also going to be two other games revealed, but nobody else cares cuz well....there's a highly probable chance of "IS MAHVEL BAYBEE" on the horizon. 8D
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"IS MAHVEL BAYBEE" 8D
Either you stumbled upon this phrase by accident or I get the hint that you play fighting games competitively like myself. ;)
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Either you stumbled upon this phrase by accident or I get the hint that you play fighting games competitively like myself. ;)
owob
But yeah, the Marvel-style Versus series, broken as every entrant may be in some shape or form, is still special to me. MvC1+2, alone, sold me a Dreamcast, for example.
So, I look forward to this. Especially if it stands to be an evolution of what TvC started.
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Yeah, I don't care what other people think, make this feel more like Tatsu than MvC2.
Either you stumbled upon this phrase by accident or I get the hint that you play fighting games competitively like myself. ;)
It's impossible to not have heard the phrase before if you've ever played MvC honestly =P
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Yeah, I don't care what other people think, make this feel more like Tatsu than MvC2.
I wouldn't even worry about such a thing. Chances are, this is going to use the TvC engine (or an evolution of it), which would basically make some one's life a lot easier if they could afford to reuse the Capcom models from TvC almost wholesale, leaving them to focus on the Marvel side instead.
The only other way would entail basically using CPS2 era sprites (again). But I don't see that happening, because it would still rely on Capcom/some one making a slew of new sprites, and Capcom has said time and time again that they don't have the means to make a 2D sprite-based project happen.
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Am I the only one hoping for it to be Hanna Barbera vs. Capcom? 8D
Nah seriously though, I really hope they use the TatsuCap fighting engine for this, because I'd actually like to be able to put up a fight with Spidey & Iceman.
ICE BEAM!
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Am I the only one hoping for it to be Hanna Barbera vs. Capcom? 8D
Nah seriously though, I really hope they use the TatsuCap fighting engine for this, because I'd actually like to be able to put up a fight with Spidey & Iceman.
ICE BEAM!
There'd better be SWAT Kats in there, if that were the case.
MvsC3?! Do want!
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If X or Zero is in MvsC3 I'd buy it. owob
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Yeah, I don't care what other people think, make this feel more like Tatsu than MvC2.
It's impossible to not have heard the phrase before if you've ever played MvC honestly =P
That is true but the fact that he spelled it "correctly" is the difference. = P
I just want a Marvel Super Heroes 2...
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There'd better be SWAT Kats in there, if that were the case.
MvsC3?! Do want!
Oh, it'd absolutely have the Swat Kats, without question!
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I'm more interested in seeing how it plays than the characters, honestly. Hopefully it doesn't come down to using only 4 or so characters...again.
But yeah, this game could use Sigma. Or Hi Max at the very least. Also, Daredevil or bust.
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http://www.planetxbox360.com/article_10306/Marvel_vs_Capcom_3_is_Coming_to_Xbox_360_from_Capcom
Looks authentic.
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Take it for what it is, some it may not bother at all, other writers will pop-out 9s and 10s for anything Capcom releases this year. It's an unfortunate aspect of the video game industry but it happens everyday. As does it happen with the exclusive review debacle, if you see an "exclusive" review just go ahead and run now; I have been in this business for 8+ years and knows exactly what happens with things like that; all I can say is don't trust the reviewer (scores have been set way out before the game arrived).
Is he trying to tell us one or more of these games are going to be god-awful?
Seems awfully scathing.
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He also said that MvC2 is one of the best fighting games ever created, so already his opinions are tainted in my eyes.
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He also said that MvC2 is one of the best fighting games ever created, so already his opinions are tainted in my eyes.
XD Wlell said.
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Who wanna take me for a ride? 8D
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Who wanna take me for a ride? 8D
SHAAAKKE. YOOURRR. BOODDD-D-D-EH!
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Kinda made me wonder.
If MvC3 is real, what kind of music we gonna have?
First we got generic CPS2 upbeat and then Jazzy groove in the next installment. (Which is not as bad as ppl said. Just different and unusual for the genre.)
What next? Rave?
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Hopefully they go back to themes, but judging by the sheer amount of characters, I doubt it.
Hopefully they follow the TatsuCap example and use 90's Techno.
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He also said that MvC2 is one of the best fighting games ever created, so already his opinions are tainted in my eyes.
It's not a fighting game! It's a RTS! 8D
But any way...while a part of me hopes that Capcom won't shy away from other opportunities, it is good to see MAHVEL back in force. But still, the Vs. brand is practically as versatile and marketable as Koei's Musou brand. To limit it to simply Marvel would be a disservice, in my eyes.
Also, as far as music is concerned? 90s-style techno is, indeed, THE ONLY ANSWER, in my eyes.
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Guess I'll still look forward to it and hoping it doesn't end up being broken..
random note: Hokuto- You play STHD or 4?
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Also, as far as music is concerned? 90s-style techno is, indeed, THE ONLY ANSWER, in my eyes.
Ditto.
Also, this damn thing better have an arcade release if I ever hope to be able to play it.
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Not going to lie, I'm a bit more excited about Bionic Commando Rearmed 2.
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Guess I'll still look forward to it and hoping it doesn't end up being broken..
random note: Hokuto- You play STHD or 4?
Nah. Neither of those games really did anything for me.
Though once I get everything set up on my new lappie, maybe some GGPO will be in order. You play Vampire Savior or KOF 98/02?
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Used to do Vampire savior but that was eons ago.. :/ My comp is still a generation old, so no GGPO for me. *sigh*
I'll catch you on KOF XIII maybe.
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*rushes back into topic* Did I hear someone say GGPO and KoF? Hurry up with that Ben, it'd be awesome to play someone I know, Cosake just won't download GGPO and 2df/Supercade hates us both XD
Used to do Vampire savior but that was eons ago.. :/ My comp is still a generation old, so no GGPO for me. *sigh*
Have you even tried at least? I can't see anything that'd make it impossible for people with old PCs to play.
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My comp plays at 10 frames per second even with people living in my area. Waste of time for me. :/ That's why I'm on that PSN ST, T6, SF4 to satisfy my notion.
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But any way...while a part of me hopes that Capcom won't shy away from other opportunities, it is good to see MAHVEL back in force. But still, the Vs. brand is practically as versatile and marketable as Koei's Musou brand. To limit it to simply Marvel would be a disservice, in my eyes.
Yeah, I agree. They can easily do so much with the Vs. Series, as I think they have more room to be creative.
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DC Vs Marvel
Who wouldn't want that
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SHAAAKKE. YOOURRR. BOODDD-D-D-EH!
YEA-
wait, what?
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DC Vs Marvel
Who wouldn't want that
As long as it doesn't lead to Amalgam Comics.
YEA-
wait, what?
It's in a specific MvC2 song. I forget which.
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It's in a specific MvC2 song. I forget which.
I believe that was the song that played in the caves.
"....AND I WON'T LET YOU GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO~!" [/song that played on the river] 8D
Any way, what's everybody's thoughts on possible bosses for this game?
Mags, Doom, Thanos, Pooky and Onslaught were all pretty nice bosses to have in past games. Not only because of their Saturday Morning connection for some of them, but the likes of Thanos and Onslaught being the end bosses played heavily on what was going on in comics during the 90s, at each respective point.
Admittedly, I've fallen off. I haven't been an avid, die-hard Marvel reader in some time. But whether they want to go with some thing more recent, or perhaps dredge up a classic 80s/90s thing like Dark Phoenix, I'm hoping that Capcom can deliver that boss with justice once more. Or hell, maybe we can have it so that a Capcom Boss (...Sigma? 8D) can come into the fray too.
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Any way, what's everybody's thoughts on possible bosses for this game?
Mags, Doom, Thanos, Pooky and Onslaught were all pretty nice bosses to have in past games. Not only because of their Saturday Morning connection for some of them, but the likes of Thanos and Onslaught being the end bosses played heavily on what was going on in comics during the 90s, at each respective point.
Admittedly, I've fallen off. I haven't been an avid, die-hard Marvel reader in some time. But whether they want to go with some thing more recent, or perhaps dredge up a classic 80s/90s thing like Dark Phoenix, I'm hoping that Capcom can deliver that boss with justice once more. Or hell, maybe we can have it so that a Capcom Boss (...Sigma? 8D) can come into the fray too.
Well, like you said, Dark Phoenix would make a pretty cool boss, and a pretty hot one at that.
Annihilus would also be a pretty bad-ass villain, after his evil plot in the Annihilation event. Hey, even though Galactus isn't a real "villain" he'd be cool to fight. Or perhaps the Molecule Man! 8D
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Well, people. A mere matter of hours (about 12 or less, as of this writing) stands between us and when the damn embargo is lifted. Can not wait.....! 0v0
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I shall wait patiently until I find the coverage of this on Games Radar.
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"IS MAHVEL BAYBEE"
I simply clicked on this thread to check if this was already posted.
And because it was, I tip my hat to you HnB.
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http://www.viddler.com/explore/kombo/videos/128/
Needs more Deadpool.
EDIT: Oh god damn it, they changed it to private. For those that couldn't see it, it was Marvel and Capcom characters fighting on rooftops with an SF4 art style. Characters on the trailer were Wolverine, Hulk, Iron Man, Ryu, Morrigan, and RE5 Chris.
Posted on: April 20, 2010, 01:17:27 AM
Ok, have some mirrors guys:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=20860566&postcount=1695
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=20860564&postcount=1694
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IF this is true, I’d love it if Tron Bonne, Frank West, Servbot, Viewtiful Joe, Mega Man Trigger, Zero, Jill Valentine, Cable, Gambit, and Rogue returned to the fighting ring as part of the roster for Mvs3. I wouldn’t mind if Leon, Chris, Dante, Saki, Batsu, or Uncle Scrooge showed up too.
It’d be freaking funny/trolling as hell if this turned out to be a Wii-exclusive like Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom. I now the article says Xbox 360 and Playstation 3, but for now it’s still a rumor.
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Wow. It has been a long time since I played MvC2 for the XBox, but now I can't wait. Just as long they take out the spamming UniBeam, then the game with be great, no matter who they add.
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IF this is true, I’d love it if Tron Bonne, Frank West, Servbot, Viewtiful Joe, Mega Man Trigger, Zero, Jill Valentine, Cable, Gambit, and Rogue returned to the fighting ring as part of the roster for Mvs3. I wouldn’t mind if Leon, Chris, Dante, Saki, Batsu, or Uncle Scrooge showed up too.
It’d be freaking funny/trolling as hell if this turned out to be a Wii-exclusive like Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom. I now the article says Xbox 360 and Playstation 3, but for now it’s still a rumor.
You didn't read the post directly above you did you?
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Ooh! MvC3? Sounds interesting. Obviously, they'd need to bring in everyone from MvC1+2 and then some.
I'd like to see Viewtiful Joe in it.
[spoiler=VJ's TvC ending]And his ending would have to be something more than sadly staring into a comic shop then walking away sadly in the snow with his girlfriend. That was a little depressing.[/spoiler]
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Oh and...
Not going to lie, I'm a bit more excited about Bionic Commando Rearmed 2.
http://www.games.net/video/bts/140705/bionic-commando-rearmed-2-captivate-2010-trailer/
Should I consider being able to jump blasphemy or a good idea?
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You didn't read the post directly above you did you?
I type slow.
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http://www.games.net/video/bts/140683/marvel-vs-capcom-3-announcement-trailer/
I don't know if those led to a trailer, but here one is!
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I will say this......TatsuCap Ryu has a much better HADOKEN yell! 8D
Either way though, [tornado fang]ing pringles! 8)
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:o
Up to now, I've been lowering my expectations, but I must say that...The trailer was amazing. *o*
This better not be a hoax.
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AWWW [tornado fang]!
Tatsucap styled graphic with a bit of SF4 paint touch.
I FUCKIN CAME, TWICE.
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IT'S MAHVEL ALL OVER AGAIN. owob
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I want to see how Rock and Roll will look in that style.
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Ohshitohshitohshit
ISMAVHELBAYBEEE! 8)
This year has been so good.
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Ohshitohshitohshit
ISMAVHELBAYBEEE! 8)
This year has been so good.
YES! YES! *NEGRO INSTALLS*
Please come out by Christmas, MAHVEL 3! I know we're not worthy, but we'll buy Pringles and blue candy to appease you!
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I will say this......TatsuCap Ryu has a much better HADOKEN yell! 8D
Either way though, [tornado fang]ing pringles! 8)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/genehf/pringles_dudley.png)
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I will say this......TatsuCap Ryu has a much better HADOKEN yell! 8D
Either way though, [tornado fang]ing pringles! 8)
That's actually cuz that's the English Ryu from SF4 doing that. Cuthbert or whatever his name was?
It's not bad, but certainly not as hot-blooded. I wonder if this game will have dual voice tracks for at least the Capcom side. 8D
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....
I came
I saw
I came, again!
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http://kotaku.com/5518018/marvel-vs-capcom-3s-bombastic-trailer-reveals-16-characters?skyline=true&s=i
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
KICK-ASS!
...but...2011....!? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
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Dante...
KUH-RAYZEEE!
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Dante...
...is not confirmed yet. LOL-taku is guessing as well.
More than likely, it is him, but seeing how it was actually NERO who was on those "left on the cutting room floor" picks for TvC a while ago...maybe....? 8D
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Sweet. Took em long enough.
Heres hoping for Playable X this time. Rock's been in a ton of fighting games, but his little bro's been in next to none. Hell, even Zero's had his spotlight! BOTH versions! And EXE as well.
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...is not confirmed yet. LOL-taku is guessing as well.
More than likely, it is him, but seeing how it was actually NERO who was on those "left on the cutting room floor" picks for TvC a while ago...maybe....? 8D
I imagine it is, judging by the sword hilt alone. Rebellion has a spiky hilt; this one does not.
Still, will be fun to see how the Devil Bringer comes into play.
EDIT: Image in question
(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/04/500x_mvc3announcementart-1000-1000.jpg)
Son of Edit: But... his Devil Bringer is his right hand, so he has his hilt the other way. Hmm.
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Do I see Shinkiro art? *o*
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Super Skrull, I was hoping if one of the Fanta 4 would join the game but if Super Skrull joins we get all of them in one!
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With the presence of RE5 Christeriod.
I wonder the Jill sandwich will appear?
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The character art you see around teh interwebs is NOT key art. Those are in-game character models! SUPRISE!
http://twitter.com/marvelvscapcom/status/12523544033
*jaw drops*
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I think it's Spidey-Girl's turn.
(http://www.comicartcommunity.com/gallery/data/media/419/Spider-Girl10YearsAnniversary.jpg)
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Dear Capcom
Please include MegaMan, please make it 6 buttons again, and Please, Please, Please, Please, Please, Please, balance this one out.
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I imagine it is, judging by the sword hilt alone. Rebellion has a spiky hilt; this one does not.
Well, judging by the hi-res Shinkiro piece here:
http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/26/1343416-mvc3announcementart.jpg
The sword hilt has a bit of spikes to it. Looks it is Dante this time...
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Yeah, it's DMC3 Dante. He's using the Unawakened Rebellion.
(http://www.dmc3.co.uk/artwork/dante5.jpg)
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please make it 6 buttons again
Please allow to really strongly disagree.
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Here the name for mystery character:
(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/04/guess2.jpg)
(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/04/guess1.jpg)
link:
http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/04/guess2.jpg
http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/04/guess1.jpg
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http://twitter.com/marvelvscapcom/status/12523544033
*jaw drops*
Sweet Jesus, what? :O
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Please allow to really strongly disagree.
Well, it's highly alluded that 3 v 3 will be brought back, assists will return and the game will "combine the best of both MvC2 and TvC".
If that much is true, then I think the game will need to be 6 buttons. Though, it likely will be in the same fashion as MvC2, which could easily have those two assist buttons conveniently on the shoulder buttons.
If SF4 was able to get away with 6 buttons, and it's definitely a game that has a good deal of casual appeal in itself, then surely MvC3, a game that will thrive on its casual appeal, can do as such like it predecessor.
stuff
Again, those are GUESSES by Kotaku. A good deal are probably fine, like Super Skrull and Dante. But on the other hand, "Mephisto" could easily be some one like Dormmamu or (more likely) Ghost Rider.
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Ben, your sig is fan-[tornado fang]ing-tastic.
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I'm still glad I can whip out my Trio of Men combo again. :P
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I'm still glad I can whip out my Trio of Men combo again. :P
Wink.
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Well, it's highly alluded that 3 v 3 will be brought back, assists will return and the game will "combine the best of both MvC2 and TvC".
If that much is true, then I think the game will need to be 6 buttons. Though, it likely will be in the same fashion as MvC2, which could easily have those two assist buttons conveniently on the shoulder buttons.
If SF4 was able to get away with 6 buttons, and it's definitely a game that has a good deal of casual appeal in itself, then surely MvC3, a game that will thrive on its casual appeal, can do as such like it predecessor.
Remember Ben, 6 buttons = 3P and 3K; when refering to MvC2's configuration it's always as 4 buttons despite it also using 2 more buttons for assists, in the same way, TvC is always refered as 3 buttons despite using another for assists. The difference with SF4 is that it is nowhere near as fast paced, IMO fast games like the VS games are better with fewer attack buttons.
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Hokuto- I approve of your sig. owob
Stoked about this already.
X needs to be in this.... or the Real MMZ Zero. Not like that garbage SVC Chaos rendition.
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http://ps3.ign.com/dor/objects/70922/marvel-vs-capcom-3/videos/mvc3_captivate_inv_041910.html;jsessionid=1thlxjiktmu8l
Interview with the Producer. SURPRISE! It's the same guy who did TvC! 8D
Remember Ben, 6 buttons = 3P and 3K; when refering to MvC2's configuration it's always as 4 buttons despite it also using 2 more buttons for assists, in the same way, TvC is always refered as 3 buttons despite using another for assists. The difference with SF4 is that it is nowhere near as fast paced, IMO fast games like the VS games are better with fewer attack buttons.
MvC2 is still a "six-button" game, in my opinion, in the same way that TvC is a four-button game. Total number of buttons used for play (not including shortcuts/button macros) = # button'd game.
I mean, I keep it simple. In most cases, whatever the arcade unit for the game listed = whatever I go with. The Naomi Cabinet description said 6 buttons, if I remember correctly. 8D
EDIT:
FACT SHEET
PRE-ORDER NAO!
- Marvel VS Capcom 3: Fate of Two Worlds
- Coming 2011, PS3/X-Box 360
- Uses MT Framework, comic-book look.
- 3 VS 3, will try to mix the best parts of Tatsunoko VS Capcom and Marvel VS Capcom 2. They'll try to balance it too.
- Focus on story, Marvel involved
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http://ps3.ign.com/dor/objects/70922/marvel-vs-capcom-3/videos/mvc3_captivate_inv_041910.html;jsessionid=1thlxjiktmu8l
Interview with the Producer. SURPRISE! It's the same guy who did TvC! 8D
Duh, his name was on the credits :P
MvC2 is still a "six-button" game, in my opinion, in the same way that TvC is a four-button game. Total number of buttons used for play (not including shortcuts/button macros) = # button'd game.
I mean, I keep it simple. In most cases, whatever the arcade unit for the game listed = whatever I go with. The Naomi Cabinet description said 6 buttons, if I remember correctly. 8D
Yeah, they're really 6 and 4 button games, but everyone else says 4 and 3, so yeah, just calling them what everyone else does. Basicly, what I'm opposed to is a 3P and 3K 6 button game, I don't mind the way 2 does it.
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Ah, I getcha.
Any way! Website up!
http://marvelvscapcom3.com/
Tags: Marvel, Capcom, MVC3, MVC2, MarvelVsCapcom, MarvelVsCapcom3, MarvelVsCapcom2, tu4ar, fateoftwoworlds
"Take you for a ride" comfirmed??? As also noted on GAF, I like how the acronym shortens itself to "FTW". 8D
EDIT:
"The game will also have an eclectic and robust mix of music, with at least 100 pieces including remixes of favorites from previous Marvel Vs. Capcom games as well as some new music."
:'(
I...I'm so....very.....happy....HOLD ME, BLUES!!!! ;O; ;O;
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MMZ Zero.
Meh. No. MMZ Zero has been in these things before. Let X get a turn.
Also, those are models? I dunno... Really?
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Glad I could help by providing a link to a video! ^_^
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Believe it, Flame!
(http://i44.tinypic.com/o76dkz.jpg)
[LIST=1]
- [tornado fang] THE KNICKS!!:
• Innovative graphics and gameplay bring the Marvel and Capcom Universes to life: Powered by an advanced version of MT Framework, the engine used in Resident Evil 5 and Lost Planet 2, now comes to Marvel vs. Capcom 3, bringing beautiful backgrounds and character animations to the forefront.
• Evolved VS. Fighting System: Wild over-the-top gameplay complete with signature aerial combos, hyper combos and other original systems. The evolved battle system takes the exciting mind-reading game to a whole new level!
• 3-on-3 Tag Team Fighting: Players build their own perfect team and use Assist Attacks and each character’s special moves to create their own unique fighting style.
• Living Comic Book Art Style: See the most adored characters from the Capcom and Marvel universes brought to life in a “moving comic” style, blurring the boundaries between 2D and 3D graphics.Of course we'll have more coming soon, and here are a few places you'll be able to find the good stuff:
- Trailer:
(http://i43.tinypic.com/2v81v6a.jpg) (http://"http://marvelvscapcom3.com/")
- Characters:
Over 30 characters will be featured in the game. List of confirmed and speculated characters:
(http://i40.tinypic.com/nlsjo4.jpg)
• Ryu
• Morrigan
• Chris Redfield
• Chun-Li
• Dante
• Frank West
(http://i44.tinypic.com/14295rd.jpg)
• Hulk
• Iron Man
• Wolverine
• Super Skrull
• Deadpool
• Captain America
• Dr. Doom
- East Coast Baby, Philly Where you at?!
(http://i41.tinypic.com/2eo8w9s.jpg)
- 100+ song soundtrack made up of new material as well as remixes of classic MvsC music. (via Kotaku)
- Character portraits are made up of actual In-Game Models.
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[tornado fang]ing buying a PS3 or 360 like now. XD
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*pats his 360*
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Oddly enough, if I had one of those systems, I'd get this in a heartbeat... I do like me some wild and crazy fighting games!
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Interesting...
Hm... may consider, since I'm still trying to save up for a PS3. It depends on the remaining members of the cast. The only draw for me so far is Iron Man.
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*pats his 360*
*Hugs his PS3*
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*Hugs his PS3*
*also hugs his own, while shedding manly tears....promising to play more Hokuto Musou later tonight* ;)
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*pats his 360*
Suddenly...
[spoiler]RROD[/spoiler]
[spoiler]Just kidding[/spoiler]
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One of Chris' supers better be punching a boulder.
That's actually cuz that's the English Ryu from SF4 doing that. Cuthbert or whatever his name was?
It's Kyle Hebert, man.
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It's Kyle Hebert, man.
Hey, that just showcases that I didn't pay attention. Pretty much the only member of the SF4 English cast I know of the top of my head is Ken's, and well, that should be obvious. 8D
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Since we're on the topic of consoles...
*holds Nitsuma at gunpoint until Capcom announces an arcade version*
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*Looks sadly over to his PS 2*
I hate new gen
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This'll likely be my first Marvel, now that I hear it'll hopefully be balanced. The brokenness of MvC2 really turned me off.
I don't know how many characters they plan on cramming in there, but I'm sure some of the old ones aren't going to make the cut. We already got some good ones in the list, but here's some I'd really like to see:
Viewtiful Joe
some form of Mega Man that hasn't been in a VS game yet
Sigma
maybe a form of Zero, like Model ZX or something
Protoman
Poison
Hugo
Arthur
Wesker
one of the Killer7, preferably Mask de Smith
ANYONE from Power Stone
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Screw that, get everyone from Killer 7 in! One character, 7 modes of play! ^_^
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Well, this should be interesting. I hope it isn't too broken, but that pretty much depends on how many characters they plan to have in this thing.
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Around 30
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Seems the trailer has already been discected. Very good, now we can all be happy for the time being.
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*Hugs his PS3*
This.
Also, maining Deadpool. Still needs Daredevil though. And Sigma, because there's no reason not to.
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Around 30
Personally, I'm hopin' for more. I hope that the 30 count is a 'what we have currently in our heads'. If they could push for about 40, then I'd be a damn happy camper, since MvC2 had 56 characters, and taking out various clones, there was at least 50 different playing styles, and while having 70+ would be awesome, I'm not stupid enough to not take in system limitations. 40 different styles and graphical models would be awesome, and there's enough characters on both sides to add in, and Capcom knows it. Also, best. subtitle. ever. Fate of Two Worlds :D
Let's hope that MvC3 is actually a prototype name for the actual title...Tatsunoko VS Marvel VS Capcom. Show of hands, who wants to see Cyclops, Ryu, and Tekkaman Blade beat-down Iron Man, Chun Li, and Polymar? XD
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Show of hands, who wants to see Cyclops, Ryu, and Tekkaman Blade beat-down Iron Man, Chun Li, and Polymar? XD
SOLD!
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Personally, I'm hopin' for more. I hope that the 30 count is a 'what we have currently in our heads'. If they could push for about 40, then I'd be a damn happy camper
Well, take what IGN's article states with whatever mileage you wish.
Capcom is still hard at work trying to squeeze in as many characters as possible before the tentative ship date, so there's no word yet on what the final total might be and whether it'll rival the over 50 playable fighters in MvC2.
- http://ps3.ign.com/articles/108/1084617p1.html
In any case, I'm thinking no more than 40 characters, being ambitious. The rest can wait for MvC4. 8D
Let's hope that MvC3 is actually a prototype name for the actual title...Tatsunoko VS Marvel VS Capcom. Show of hands, who wants to see Cyclops, Ryu, and Tekkaman Blade beat-down Iron Man, Chun Li, and Polymar? XD
Well, it won't happen right this time, but let's not forget that Marvel and Tatsunoko DO have a collab production planned.
http://www.animevice.com/news/marvel-teams-up-with-tatsunoko/610/
To me, it's only a matter of time. Capcom's cool with both companies, and Marvel + Tatsunoko is becoming a reality unto itself. owob
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Marvel vs. Capcom vs. Tatsunoko vs. Disney anyone?
Pogo stick Scrooge for God Tier. XD
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lol I was just playing Ducktales! Also, Capcom did make those games sooo....
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Marvel did the comic books too, it was only a matter of time before either one had a race to the finish to get access to Scrooge McDuck.
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yey! playable chris! >0<
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"The game will also have an eclectic and robust mix of music, with at least 100 pieces including remixes of favorites from previous Marvel Vs. Capcom games as well as some new music."
:'(
I...I'm so....very.....happy....HOLD ME, BLUES!!!! ;O; ;O;
*holds Ben*
Soon, my friend. Soon. XD
Also, like all games, this one needs some Playable Blues.
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Some more info! (http://marvel.com/news/all.12122.first_look~colon~_marvel_vs~dot~_capcom_3?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Pulse238&utm_term=Link1&utm_content=MvsC3FirstLook&utm_campaign=Pulse238Newsletter04202010)
Who thought I'd be the one posting all these useful links?
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ZEHAHAHAHA!! It IS confirmed!
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And now, my purchase of a PS3 is validated. 8)
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... ah what the heck, might as well do it. Everyone everywhere else has probably posted their character wishlists for this already, so I might as well follow suit.
Characters I'd like to see from each side... hm...
From Marvel...
-Gambit
-Hobgoblin/Green Goblin
... yeah, I don't follow Marvel too much.
Capcom-wise...
-Arthur
-Billy Bob (protagonist from Gun.Smoke on the NES/arcade)
-Bass
-Amaterasu
-... one of the weapon classes from Monster Hunter, maybe?
... though Billy being in the mix probably won't happen. Which is a shame; I enjoyed Gun.Smoke on the NES. =/
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Marvel vs. Capcom vs. Tatsunoko vs. Disney vs. Kellogg
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They are saying already create 30 character right? I just wonder what if they make more character...
Here the offical charcter name for 15 - 15 character
Capcom :
1.Ryu - Street Fighter
2.Chun Li - Street Fighter (Unreveal)
3.Morrigan - Darkstalkers
4.Felicia - Darkstalkers (Unreveal)
5.Chris - Resident Evil
6.Dante - Devil May Cry (Unreveal)
7.Frank West - Dead Rising (Unreveal)
8.????? - ????
9.????? - ????
10.????? - ???
11.????? - ???
12.????? - ???
13.????? - ???
14.????? - ???
15.????? - ???
Marvel :
1.Wolverine - X-Men
2.Iron Man - Iron Man
3.Hulk - The Incredible Hulk
4.Captain America - Captain America (Unreveal)
5.Deadpool - X-Men (Unreveal)
6.???? -???
7.???? -???
8.???? -???
9.???? - ???
10.??? -???
11.??? -???
12.??? -???
13.??? -???
14.??? - ???
15.??? - ???
Black Widow, Dr.Doom, Mesphito, and Super Skrull, is that i cannot accept as offical, because these sillouthette kinda hard to tell they are "who they are".
Can anyone guest who is ?????? it?.
P.S - WHAT ABOUT HOWARD THE DUCK >0< >0< >0< >0< >0< >0< >0< >0< >0< >0< >0< >0<
Seriously, i want Dante.
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Dante, Strider, Zero....I would like such a team
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I don't see why they'd ditch Hiryu. They just got to make him good.
-Amaterasu
I forgot to add her. And here's one more I could add: Nathan Spencer. The Rearmed kind, not the one married to his arm.
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Hmm... You know, I've notice that a lot of peoples' character want lists include characters that are already in the MvC games. Shouldn't the want lists consist of characters that aren't in any of the games? o~O
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Well, it's not like anyone who was in a previous game is a shoein to be in this one. Ask Hypershell about the lack of Mewtwo in Brawl.
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I am well aware of mewtwo not being in brawl, as same with Roy pretty much being replaced by Ike.
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ANN's brief wishlist (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/the-x-button/2010-04-14) wins solely for mention of U.S. 1.
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evryone else already spoke my mind so..
i'll just wish for X4 Sigma (or X1 Sigma).
let's see what happens~
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The problem with having so many characters in this type of game is that it will take forever to try every possible combination in order to find out if there are any teams that are just to good. 30 characters to start is plenty. We can always wait for a DLC to get more character. To be honest I'm just glad it is getting made.
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Dear Capcom or Marvel,
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE get either Neil Patrick Harris or Josh Keaton to do the voice of Spider-Man in the game. ALSO, if it is not too much trouble, please include Firestar so that the Spider-Friends can live again! This is assuming that you are bringing back Iceman, but really, why would you not? I mean.....ICE BEAM! I think I have made my point clear.
Maximum Spidering into Final Justice,
Protoman Blues
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As am I; it's about time.
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The problem with having so many characters in this type of game is that it will take forever to try every possible combination in order to find out if there are any teams that are just to good. 30 characters to start is plenty. We can always wait for a DLC to get more character. To be honest I'm just glad it is getting made.
Didn't stop those tournament players for MvC2.
or rather, people who just pick who they like for fun.
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That's a bad thing? Then again, I don't play for tournaments, I play for the fun of the game. I do end up picking favorite characters or styles, simply because it's easier that way (e.g. R.O.B. in Brawl, Iron Sword in SC3, etc.) but I play for the hell of it. Hell, I was pretty good with Rock in the original MvC back in the day.
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Hey, as long as I get Dante and Mega Man X, I'm good.
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Didn't stop those tournament players for MvC2.
or rather, people who just pick who they like for fun.
And that's likely going to be the bottom line for this game, as well, unless I REALLY stand to be surprised.
I mean, the notion of how a "scene" developed for the MAHVEL games, but ESPECIALLY MvC2, is largely the same way that it developed for Melee. A rather casual-focused game ended up having a quite steep learning curve for tournament-class play, thanks to the intricacies that level of competition field developed on its own, far beyond whatever Capcom may have intended.
First and foremost, MvC3 is going to be marketed as a casual, "fanservice" game, just like the series always has been in its past. If they're STILL talking about adding characters to an already sizable roster of 30 or so, with gameplay mechanics still being in testing phases, that much is apparent.
Is that necessarily a bad thing? To me, not so. Maybe some have forgotten, but I definitely remember the old days when the MAHVEL games were called "Versus Trash". And then by the time MvC2's elite scene developed, people seemed to have done more to forgotten that history. I certainly haven't~. 8D
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Is that necessarily a bad thing? To me, not so. Maybe some have forgotten, but I definitely remember the old days when the MAHVEL games were called "Versus Trash". And then by the time MvC2's elite scene developed, people seemed to have done more to forgotten that history. I certainly haven't~. 8D
Oh, I've never forgotten, which is why I'm still a bit sketchy on them using too many characters. When they do that it's easy for things to get imbalanced, and a whole lot of characters become throwaways.
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FACT: This is a fighter game developed largely by Capcom.
FACT: There has not been truly balanced fighting game ever made, with the no company in the lead as far as balance.
I don't expect this to change, but I never did. I don't play any game competitively, nor would I recommend playing competitively until we one day get that balanced game where one character doesn't have a unique combo or set of attacks that outweighs the use of every other character.
That is not the nature of combat. There can only be one winner, one superior.
No ban can change that.
If we ever get the balanced game, it's a long way off. In the meantime, do what you can to enjoy it the way you do.
Me, I'll pick either my favorites or best, and do my best, and have a fun time trying to win.
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I expect Blues to be Blues-Tier.
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lol PB YOU SO CRAZY!
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FACT: This is a fighter game developed largely by Capcom.
FACT: There has not been truly balanced fighting game ever made, with the no company in the lead as far as balance.
I don't expect this to change, but I never did. I don't play any game competitively, nor would I recommend playing competitively until we one day get that balanced game where one character doesn't have a unique combo or set of attacks that outweighs the use of every other character.
That is not the nature of combat. There can only be one winner, one superior.
No ban can change that.
If we ever get the balanced game, it's a long way off. In the meantime, do what you can to enjoy it the way you do.
Me, I'll pick either my favorites or best, and do my best, and have a fun time trying to win.
>_>
Some games are more broken than others in that respect. The way it usually works is that the more characters you have, the larger the chance the game will be ridiculously imbalanced. MVC2 is a perfect example of this type of shenanigan. FACT.
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MvC2 feels more like a "they didn't care to balance it" instead of "they couldn't balance it because of the size of it" though. If they really wanted to it could've had SOME balance at least *points to KoF 2k2UM for an example of a balanced huge roster game*
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FACT: This is a fighter game developed largely by Capcom.
FACT: There has not been truly balanced fighting game ever made, with the no company in the lead as far as balance.
I don't expect this to change, but I never did. I don't play any game competitively, nor would I recommend playing competitively until we one day get that balanced game where one character doesn't have a unique combo or set of attacks that outweighs the use of every other character.
That is not the nature of combat. There can only be one winner, one superior.
No ban can change that.
If we ever get the balanced game, it's a long way off. In the meantime, do what you can to enjoy it the way you do.
I would like to point out that Tekken 5 DR is among the most balanced games out there and also VF5 ver C (This is from competitive playing) HOWEVER there will always be characters that have better tools than others in any game. That inFACT is a fact. Current versus games (other than MVC1, XVS, MVS) are completely out of the question which is why I don't play them.
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>_>
Some games are more broken than others in that respect. The way it usually works is that the more characters you have, the larger the chance the game will be ridiculously imbalanced. MVC2 is a perfect example of this type of shenanigan. FACT.
Taiyo's point is basically correct. MAHVEL was just an example of what happened when Capcom just didn't give two shits about trying to balance things. As stated before, MvC2 was a game that they were able to just throw together with minimal effort required, and yet made them plenty of money. They COULD have tried to do anything akin to what SNK is able to do on a good day (98, 2002, XI, etc), but they just couldn't be bothered. 8D
Besides, having a smaller roster is DEFINITELY NOT a thing that does more to promise balance, either.
Pretty much all of ASW's "beginning entries" in the FG world are all horridly unbalanced. GGX, Hokuto no Ken and Sengoku BASARA X are all games that only have 10 characters apiece, by default. ALL 3 are some of the most unbalanced games ever made (unless you count how everybody has access to silly crap, which in its own way "balances" things 8D). Capcom isn't that much better in this light, with MSH fixing some of the problems that COTA had, but only opening up more. And there were only 10 default characters there, too! XD
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TatsuCap seems pretty balanced to me, but that could just be cause I suck! 8D
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TatsuCap seems pretty balanced to me, but that could just be cause I suck! 8D
TC is admittedly the most balanced entrant in the series. Dunno how much that says when all of the other entries were BUSTED AS ALL GET OUT, but it was definitely a nice showcase that such a thing is not impossible.
Also...
http://kotaku.com/5522160/marvel-vs-capcom-comic-books-a-natural-thing?skyline=true&s=i
Well, more work for Udon, I guess...? 8D
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U SHOULD LIEK GET THE GUIDE FOR THAT!
Seriously though... there are a few chars in that game I'd like to cosplay... -_-
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TC is admittedly the most balanced entrant in the series. Dunno how much that says when all of the other entries were BUSTED AS ALL GET OUT, but it was definitely a nice showcase that such a thing is not impossible.
Was the original Marvel vs. Capcom unfair? I mean, I do know that my friend, who is a DEMON in fighting games, said that MvC Gief was one of the greatest characters ever in ANY fighting game.
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Strider and Wolverine IIRC.
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Another interview with Niitsuma posted.
http://www.ausgamers.com/features/read/2889094
Some interesting things that come to light:
* Key team members from past Vs. games are on board with this project
* Expect more in the way of newer Capcom characters, as opposed to older ones
* Nothing has been decided, with relation to DLC
* Choice was made to go away from SF4 engine, because the MT engine was easy to use, and they didn't want MvC3 and SF4 to "look the same"
* Nemesis or Tyrant won't be joining this party for the same reason they didn't get into TvC: too "grotesque" and would have driven up the rating
A shame that it seems that we may not be able to expect some golden oldies on the Capcom side. Going with merely the PSX-PS2 era could make the roster a bit less lively than I'd like... ;O;
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Blues still has a chance! XD
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Yes he does! YAY!
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~No Nemesis or Tyrant
~SPECIFICALLY MENTIONS Nemesis and Tyrant
~Attempting to work in a Resident Evil villain
~Chris Redfield confirmed, Jill Valentine likely
And with Resident Evil's wild popularity, that means only one meaningful Resident Evil villain, who's actually very skilled at hand to hand combat, could be in the roster:
(http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/2/23909/930733-albert_wesker_sentado_super.jpg)
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Sooo you guys are telling me that the size of the roster has nothing to do with why Capcom was too lazy to balance MvC2? Seriously? You do realize how hard it is to balance fighting games right? Just because some companies actually do it for a larger roster doesn't mean all of them find it worth their time all the time. As for some of the games with smaller rosters being unbalanced... again, laziness on their part. Also, I do believe I said that there was a higher chance of it being unbalanced, not a sure thing. Yeesh, people, it's not that hard to read.
Here's to hoping Capcom puts some effort this time, which is likely seeing how decent TvC was in this regard. Not perfect by any means, but better than lots of other games.
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You can balance a game regardless of roster size.
Just depends on how much detail you put into it (and how few combos/how simple the inputs are).
Which is why it's such a shame SSB is getting more and more unbalanced.
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Brawl is only really unbalanced one or one. Anything more and it's anything goes.
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Brawl is only really unbalanced one or one.
That's mostly what I play.
And you and Jelly seem to have some tricks I just don't bother to practice up on in that much detail.
'Course Falco's also been nerfed, so that wasn't cool either...
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Also, I do believe I said that there was a higher chance of it being unbalanced, not a sure thing. Yeesh, people, it's not that hard to read.
And I don't think anyone is disagreeing with that, we're (at least I anyways) only saying that MvC2's case is more of laziness thing. Are there even that many games with such big rosters anyways to form a proper comparison though?
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And I don't think anyone is disagreeing with that, we're (at least I anyways) only saying that MvC2's case is more of laziness thing. Are there even that many games with such big rosters anyways to form a proper comparison though?
It's pretty much on the SNK side of things. Latter day KOFs and the last few 2D Samurai Spirits/Shodown games.
Funny that 0 Special is actually decently balanced game, and yet THAT'S the one SNK can't be bothered to give us a home console port for. We have to settle for Tenka. 8D
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I'm transplanting this from my post on Capcom-Unity:
www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3178896
Streamlining inputs, however, may start heated discussions within the community. "We're also looking at the possibility for some moves to be one button." MvsC3 isn't the first time Capcom has attempted to lower the execution barrier for neophytes. The GameCube port of Capcom vs. SNK 2, a crossover fighter starring Capcom and SNK properties, implemented a similar one-button command for special moves (which was aimed at beginners). "It would be exactly like that [Capcom vs. SNK 2], but the trade-off is that you'll lose something else. You can have the simple one-button command, but we have to decide if that means the amount of damage done to the opponent would be less than damage done with a full command move." Would this mean a damage handicap for beginners who can't perform even a Hadoken? And why is there a trade-off when previous fighters didn't penalize players for using an easier input system? Perhaps the handicaps are exploitable. With easier inputs, deft players could string together combos impossible on normal execution. For instance, many combo videos made by the fighting community are performed with help of a programmable pad, which eliminates the physical barrier needed to execute commands. A single press of a button is much faster than inputting the command's motion.
I want everyone to think back to Street Fighter 2. Think about how much damage, how much hitbox, and how much priority that input combos received. This was back in the day when part of the appeal of most things fighter or "kung-fu"-ish were about how "great warriors had inner focus and after some buildup time, they would unleash their inner power." Look at Dragon Ball, at many of the 80's and 90's Hollywood karate movies. When they weren't about that specific theme, they were about the journey or training to become the best (Rocky, Karate Kid, etc.).
This is now archaic, outdated, and unnecessary. Now it seems the developers are trying to make the game balanced, which is already a pain to do between an increasing roster and the "someone's gotta win, someone's gotta lose" nature of combat. Squirrel Girl or Thanos vs. Dan or a Servbot would be over in half a second in canon, but the devs are challenged with creating a game where people who love their characters can feasibly have a chance at winning.
Even in recent competitive play, combos are not nearly as important as Launchers, Infinite Loops, and good old fashioned brawling/jabbing/haymaking/blitzing. Combos are for eye-candy or specific situations. But they can also break the game, too; if a player strings a set of regular attacks then uses a combo that loops or sets up into enough attacks that it wipes out most of the roster, that kills the game. I'm not saying "setting up" isn't okay. That's the deadliest fastest way to win any battle (ever played Blitzkrieg Chess?). But in this setting, it must be balanced out, or have some way for the opponent to break out of it.
On top of that, these combos are unintuitive and stodgy. Do you think Iron Man has to sit there and think about pulling out his Repulsors or Unibeam? No, he just flat-out uses them. Ryu? Oh yeah, when he was first learning the Hadoken, he probably had to concentrate very hard on his Chi before getting it to work, but you know what? He's a world champ, now. A legend. It shouldn't take him DownDownrightRight Fierce to do a Hadoken, anymore. Mega Man's weapons are as instantaneous as his buster; why Tornado Hold, Leaf Shield, and Mega Ball are string inputs and not one-button presses like the Mega Buster (Heavy Punch) is beyond me.
I don't need to remind everybody here how much this would help new players, but there's a good reason for it. You know, the majority of people don't, and shouldn't, bother having to memorize a list of combos just to be their favorite character and look awesome doing it. Especially when you're trying to show the game to someone new, either to the series, or to video gaming, or new to you! The majority of the buying public plays these games for the trademark atmosphere and the fun. That's why games like Power Stone and Super Smash Bros. are so enjoyed.
It's time to move on, it really is. I feel for veteran players, and I do think there should be some challenging modes, but A) I really think this obsession with the supposed "elitism" that comes with doing these string inputs has gotten very unhealthy, and B) players should NOT be penalized for using a one-button press compared to a string input.
Veteran players should be more rewarded with challenges and harder achievements that require the skill that they have in their other capacities such as how to analyze chains of attacks and setups, and how to evade the most damage with hitboxes and positioning, in addition to learning attack patterns. And then the timing of pulling that all off. That's worth more than practicing a set of button inputs ad nauseum.
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Marvel vs. Capcom vs. Tatsunoko vs. Disney anyone?
Pogo stick Scrooge for God Tier. XD
Someone hit this guy.
I hope X is in this ;_;
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I'm transplanting this from my post on Capcom-Unity:
www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3178896
Now, see? I have no problem with an optional "Handicap/Easy Operation" model that helps ease people into the system. Let them have that, so that the more "casual" crowd can have it their way, as well. But making that the "standard"? And in short, trying to ditch what basically amounts to the better portion of 2 DECADES'S worth of what makes fighting games what they are? Sorry, I don't buy that. It's not necessary, and doing as such would be jeopardizing the intermediate and advanced levels of competitive play for no good reason.
Whether those who want to try and "streamline" everything realize it or not, EVERY GAME requires a good deal of memorization and actually "learning the game", in order for you to get competent at it. And for those games that require the highest amounts of such memorization, like say, FPSes, RTSes and yes, Fighting Games, this is a hallmark of those genres. Learning what's necessary, in order to be able to hold your own, is part of what makes these games so appealing to those who love them most. Even a game like Gundam vs. Gundam NEXT (one of my new favorite passions) requires memorization and learning, and it's not even a "real" fighting game like Street Fighter.
But the beauty of it is? You don't NEED to learn that level of devotion required for high level play, if you have no desire to play the game on that kind of competitive level. Stick with the casual tip. Stick with the EO mode input. Play through story mode for another time. All of that is there for those who just want to be able to enjoy the game on that kind of level, for as long as their casual desire wills them to keep playing, until they move on.
In short, this "streamlining" thing is completely unnecessary. All it sounds like is the same rhetoric that I've been hearing for the better portion of the last decade since "Smash Bros." came on the scene. Not every game needs to be like Smash. Hell, SF4 is practically as close as you can get, while still keeping an air of what makes SF what it is.
But in any case, I do not see Capcom doing any thing that would [acid burst] off its fanbase. They want to expand their appeal, true, but they're not about to do that at any cost.
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Yeah, I'm with Ben on that. A fighting game like that should never force you to play in Single Button mode. But if you want to include shortcuts on the right analog stick, that's fine.
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Well there's no good reason for string inputs for regular combos, either.
It serves no logical purpose.
Hyper combos, different story. Those would take considerable doing on the part of the superheroes and should stay string input with a one-button option that loses attack power/numbers of hits.
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Well there's no good reason for string inputs for regular combos, either.
It serves no logical purpose.
Ummm...there's plenty of logic. A good combination-oriented system in a fighting game, especially, is supposed to be a free-form system that allows the user to discover combos on their own. In that light, it's simply on the player to discover how to use the system to get results.
Ever since the emergence of "combos", which occurred in the midst of SF2's development, it has since gone on to become a fundamental aspect that makes fighting games what they are. "Dial-a-combos", which are preset combos, do not offer this same thing.
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Combos and Dial-a-Combos?
Oh lordy, this just got more complicated! I'm talking about Unibeam and Tornado Hold and Hadoken! You wanna "freestyle" your own combos, man, go for it! Just so long as it's balanced!
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Combos and Dial-a-Combos?
Oh lordy, this just got more complicated! I'm talking about Unibeam and Tornado Hold and Hadoken! You wanna "freestyle" your own combos, man, go for it! Just so long as it's balanced!
So in other words, I believe you mean to say "special move inputs"? 8D
But in any case, this goes back to my original response. These types of "muscle memory" things are just another facet of what makes FGs what they are. Learning the execution for a Shoryuken is only the first step, where learning how to adequately use it and integrate it into your overall strategy comes later. This is where the notion of how learning a fighting game is akin to learning a martial art definitely rings true. FGs, by nature, can be such that you can spend many months learning one character/fighting style inside-out. Then after you learn that much, tactics and strategy (MIND GAMES, SON! 8D) comes later.
Again, for those who don't want to deal with that, give them their EO mode, and keep it moving. But don't "streamline" it and ruin it for the rest of us who are more likely to keep at it long after the casual crowd has since moved on.
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But that's just it! You've got a crowd that doesn't want to bother with the time it takes to do that junk! AKA, most of the buyers!
Make 2 modes or something! And no damage penalty.
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But that's just it! You've got a crowd that doesn't want to bother with the time it takes to do that junk! AKA, most of the buyers!
Make 2 modes or something! And no damage penalty.
There's such a thing as meeting half way, and doing it in a way that still is conducive to wanting to teach players to learn. Super Guide/EO is one such way. It works, because it's a means to give players immediate gratification, but at the price of not giving the player everything they want for free, either.
Mario Galaxy 2's Super Guide gives you the "out" if you're having trouble and just want to finish. But at a price! No Gold Star for you, you get a "Bronze Star", instead. So, with that much, the game gives you the incentive to want to do it for yourself, if you want to complete the game. Or, you could just elect to keep the Bronze Star, if you just want to get that much closer to finishing the game. That's up to the player.
EO/Automatic in some fighting games is the same way. Immediate gratification for those who just want flash, but you're not going to get the full experience of playing the actual game and learning it in-depth.
So, no, I don't agree with "No Damage Penalty". An EO should be a privilege that allows the player a sizable handicap as it is.
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No, there should not be a damage penalty. That defeats most of the purpose of having this issue dealt with, to begin with.
Again, only damage penalties for Hyper Combos. And not every special attack can get mapped to these button presses (at least, I don't think so). Either way, no sense punishing players who want a more fluid experience.
You want to do some sort of penalty? Do a "time-to-execution" penalty, since that's the difference in combat between inputting and single button, but not damage.
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As long as there's some kind of penalty.
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And SSB puts a damage penalty on spamming. Smart.
Not intuitive.
Not logical.
But smart.
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No, there should not be a damage penalty. That defeats most of the purpose of having this issue dealt with, to begin with.
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Either way, no sense punishing players who want a more fluid experience.
But that's the thing. It should be a "training wheels" experience, not give one the full gratification of experiencing the game/game engine at its fullest. There should be SOME incentive for the player to want to experience the game the way it was intended, right? 8D
Plenty of other games have addressed this issue in similar ways. NSMBW and the upcoming Mario Galaxy 2, both have "Super Guides". The Devil May Cry, Viewtiful Joe and the modern day Ninja Gaiden games, as well as God Hand and Bayonetta, have things akin to "Easy Automatic" modes that are more enough if you just want to beat the game, and experience it on a precursory level. But if you want to see what the game has to offer for real, take off the training wheels, and step up to "Normal" mode.
If such works for other games, it's more than enough for Fighting Games, as well. The EO/Automatic option that existed in Capcom games past is an ideal example of how they could do this.
You want to do some sort of penalty? Do a "time-to-execution" penalty, since that's the difference in combat between inputting and single button, but not damage.
Alright, how about this?
For example, in Street Fighter Alpha 2, there was an "Automatic" Mode that was suitable for beginners.
You would get a number of "freebie autoblocks", where the game would automatically have your character block, as long as you were not actively inputting any thing. After that, you had to block as normal. Additionally, in Automatic mode, you could do super combos by pressing an adjacent pairing of a Punch and Kick (where each level corresponded to any one among a character's 3 supers).
The trade-off was that in this system, you could not link normals to supers, thus limiting your character's combo potential. Additionally, you only got level of super meter, which took about as long to fill as a Level 3 meter.
So, in short, it was a compromise system. You still had to incur a penalty for playing with the "training wheels". 8)
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But in any case, this goes back to my original response. These types of "muscle memory" things are just another facet of what makes FGs what they are. Learning the execution for a Shoryuken is only the first step, where learning how to adequately use it and integrate it into your overall strategy comes later. This is where the notion of how learning a fighting game is akin to learning a martial art definitely rings true. FGs, by nature, can be such that you can spend many months learning one character/fighting style inside-out. Then after you learn that much, tactics and strategy (MIND GAMES, SON! 8D) comes later.
Of course, with that, you come across players like my friend Joshmack. To say he is a beast in FGs is an understatement. I'll just simply go back to when SFIV was released. GameStop had a tourney, and since Lou couldn't enter cause he worked there, he signed Joshmack up. Joshmack had never played SFIV before, so while he's online he talking with someone and he asks him...
Joshmack - "So, have you played this before?"
Chump - "Yeah, it's awesome!"
Joshmack - "Does Zangief play the same way!"
Chump - "Yep."
Joshmack - "That's all I needed to know!"
He then proceeds to not just beat everyone there, but easily mop the [tornado fang]ing floor with them, to the point where they all feared playing him. Since the top 2 got to go to the next round, the #2 guy who Joshmack wiped the floor with before just looked at him and said, "Well.....at least I get to go to the next round" and then proceeded to lose. Joshmack had zero intention of moving on to the next round too, which sadly made him feel pretty good.
From what I've seen, Joshmack has mastered characters like Zangief to a point in which no matter what type of 360 character is in the game, he can instantly use him, and be devastating with him. Alex, Hugo, and so on. LoL, like you said Ben, I guess it's just muscle memory.
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Of course, with that, you come across players like my friend Joshmack.
From what I've seen, Joshmack has mastered characters like Zangief to a point in which no matter what type of 360 character is in the game, he can instantly use him, and be devastating with him. Alex, Hugo, and so on. LoL, like you said Ben, I guess it's just muscle memory.
It's not just muscle memory, though. Muscle memory insures that once you learn something well enough, that surmounts the "execution" thing. You're going to know how to do a Hadouken, Charge-motion, 360 or a SRK, and it's something that's applicable to any other game that contains such. Now, Geese's traditional Raging Storm and Akira's "Stun Palm of Doom"? That's examples of things that I'm STILL trying to get off with any degree of competence! 8D
But what your friend also demonstrates is that he knows the basics that govern tactics and strategy. If he's already a decent Zangief player in any other SF game, he already knows the fundamentals that govern how to play the Red Cyclone. And it works for the sake of SF4, because a number of those old strategies still apply.
Couple that with the fact that SF4 'Gief is a BEAST, with likelihood that the majority of the people there at that GStop tourney were probably newbies, and it's enough to dictate how your friend was able to do just fine. Proper training, combined with certain other things in his favor = RESULTS! 8D
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But what your friend also demonstrates is that he knows the basics that govern tactics and strategy. If he's already a decent Zangief player in any other SF game, he already knows the fundamentals that govern how to play the Red Cyclone. And it works for the sake of SF4, because a number of those old strategies still apply.
Oh, he's not just a decent Zangief player. As of right now, I'd venture to say he's the best Gief player on the planet, because in all my years of watching people play SF, I've never seen or met anyone as good as him, or really even close to how good he is with 360 characters like him. Hell, he's been banned in SFII XBLA because they think he's cheating somehow, or something. Honestly, I wish he was at PAX with us, because I think he could take on the EVO fighters and beat them. LoL, he just doesn't care enough. XD
Couple that with the fact that SF4 'Gief is a BEAST, with likelihood that the majority of the people there at that GStop tourney were probably newbies, and it's enough to dictate how your friend was able to do just fine. Proper training, combined with certain other things in his favor = RESULTS! 8D
Yeah, from what he and Lou tell me, Gief's reach in SFIV is ridiculously good, to the point of grabbing Akuma out of said super before he can do it! He also told me that MvC Gief was the best Gief ever in a fighting game! But yeah, he's very good with tactics and strategy I believe. He mastered Rolento in SFA3 (which he says is the best FG character ever created) to a point where he is 231-0. Friendships former in Boston from people trying to beat him.
What makes it worse is that he's an arrogant prick too. LoL, not to random strangers, but to us, his closest friends! 8D
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Ya know what I miss from specifically 3rd Strike that other fighters should add in for the lols?
System Direction. Especially when having unlocked every page (Ben should KNOW exactly WHAT i'm talking about.)
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It would indeed be nice. But all the same: Ono and Niitsuma need to be more worried about making solid games, first and foremost. They can worry about the silly [parasitic bomb], later. After all, Niitsuma has a lot to prove to the skeptics within communities such as SRK's, because TvC didn't last long. About a good 8 months between the first version and the last, and then the scene for the game all but fizzled out. That's sad.
And HS.EXE's comments don't help. People on SRK are either outright lol-ing at his essay that he posted, if not outright smh-ing because his brand of thinking, combined with Niitsuma's recent quotes about "MvC2 was too complex, LOL!" don't exactly do a lot to instill confidence on those who have already feel dejected by modern day Capcom's fighting games already.
The more reasonable, like myself, are more amiable: we want to see what MvC3 has in store. But we also completely abhor the idea of trying to "simplify" things. Give people their easy mode, and keep the rest of the experience unfettered for the rest of us.
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It would indeed be nice. But all the same: Ono and Niitsuma need to be more worried about making solid games, first and foremost. They can worry about the silly [parasitic bomb], later. After all, Niitsuma has a lot to prove to the skeptics within communities such as SRK's, because TvC didn't last long. About a good 8 months between the first version and the last, and then the scene for the game all but fizzled out. That's sad.
That has more to do with SRK itself than with TvC being a good game or not. The console of choice in combination with the always stupid "lol it's not Marvel 3/it's not like Marvel 2" didn't help it there. Honestly, the latter is a good part of the reason why I'm really hoping it's more like TvC than MvC2 just to see the bitter tears >_> (the other part being that I like TvC's feel more than MvC2's)
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It would indeed be nice. But all the same: Ono and Niitsuma need to be more worried about making solid games, first and foremost. They can worry about the silly [parasitic bomb], later. After all, Niitsuma has a lot to prove to the skeptics within communities such as SRK's, because TvC didn't last long. About a good 8 months between the first version and the last, and then the scene for the game all but fizzled out. That's sad.
And HS.EXE's comments don't help. People on SRK are either outright lol-ing at his essay that he posted, if not outright smh-ing because his brand of thinking, combined with Niitsuma's recent quotes about "MvC2 was too complex, LOL!" don't exactly do a lot to instill confidence on those who have already feel dejected by modern day Capcom's fighting games already.
The more reasonable, like myself, are more amiable: we want to see what MvC3 has in store. But we also completely abhor the idea of trying to "simplify" things. Give people their easy mode, and keep the rest of the experience unfettered for the rest of us.
Let me tell you right now, I don't give a [parasitic bomb] what those bloody little communities think. Odds are, most of them pirate the games anyway. And they're going to do what they're going to do to have their way (Brawl+ and ban lists are an excellent example of this). I'd rather not associate myself with the likes of Dylan Tnga and other like-minded idiots, and I don't think new players or fans of Marvel and Capcom that aren't privvy to this unadulterated BS deserve that displeasure.
Video games are in a state of reinvention and simplification as is obvious from the Wii's results. Marvel Vs. Capcom, like Super Smash Bros., is pretty obviously an intended mashup/fun fighter, rather than a serious competitive one.
You want to play like that, play Super Street Fighter IV or some other game that does deliver such balance.
Most of the people who want to play a crossover fighter like this are just in it for the fun. Balance should remain an important part of these games, and if it happens to do so, great, but it's not the end of the world if it doesn't happen.
What WILL be the end of the world is if there are no more games out, and the best way to ensure that is to SEPARATE THEIR ASSES and nitpicking into one game series which gets downloadable updates, then have a mass-appealing, but training, fighter that might teach people into the competitive scene if they so desire, and if not, is just a fun romp.
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As along time fighting game fan, and a rather good player at that, I have to completely agree with what Ben has been saying. Don't diminish the expected experience for the seasoned vets. I think Bleach DS did a pretty good job with this. The touch screen had shortcut buttons, however, it FORCED an EX use of the move you pressed the touchscreen button for as a draw back for being lazy. The supers had no drawbacks that I remember, so that was a little broken, but it did help a lot of my less skilled friends still compete reasonably. Some went on to actually learn the commands like I had, to get a better control over things. That was an acceptable 'easy mode' I thought. You could also enable auto guard too, but there was a few limitations if I recall correctly when using it. There was some technique you couldn't do when it was enabled. I think it was canceling into an attack or something. So it all sorta balanced out in its own way.
I did not particularly like MvC2's four button system. But I like the TvC three button system, since its a set of limb-ambiguous buttons, which works better for crossovers, especially anime. I think it worked VERY well in JoJo and MeltyBlood too.
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That has more to do with SRK itself than with TvC being a good game or not. The console of choice in combination with the always stupid "lol it's not Marvel 3/it's not like Marvel 2" didn't help it there. Honestly, the latter is a good part of the reason why I'm really hoping it's more like TvC than MvC2 just to see the bitter tears >_> (the other part being that I like TvC's feel more than MvC2's)
Fact of the matter is, TvC still didn't change the name of the game all that much. Looking at worldwide sales, as well as quotes from company personnel, it can be gleaned that it was not the Wii fanbase that really helped TvC throughout its two lifetimes. It really boiled down to players who more or less were PS360 fighting game fans, who happened to have a Wii in the household, as well. THEY were the majority that ended up helping the game.
And even there, the game itself couldn't last because it does not have the long-legs of some other fighters. "Casual appeal" not withstanding, it was also the makings of the game's downfall, when it came to longevity. You know some thing is not quite right when Famitsu, whose reviews' quality could always be called into question, stated that the game felt "flat" and that it really boiled down to how players can do the same Baroque combos over and over again. Lo and behold, that's EXACTLY the kind of things that even the most open-minded of FGers have said about the game.
So, honestly, that all said, the less MvC:FTW is like TvC, the better off the game may be already. Casual appeal is fine and good, but not if it sacrifices the game's long-lasting appeal in the process.
Let me tell you right now, I don't give a [parasitic bomb] what those bloody little communities think. Odds are, most of them pirate the games anyway. And they're going to do what they're going to do to have their way (Brawl+ and ban lists are an excellent example of this). I'd rather not associate myself with the likes of Dylan Tnga and other like-minded idiots, and I don't think new players or fans of Marvel and Capcom that aren't privvy to this unadulterated BS deserve that displeasure.
Video games are in a state of reinvention and simplification as is obvious from the Wii's results.
And this simplification is still part of the problem, NOT the solution.
For example, as inevitable as it may be, Ono (SF4 producer) getting his hands on a new Darkstalkers game is a source of worry for me and many. Doing what happened to SF4 is one thing, as SF has worldwide appeal that was waiting to be catered to. But what's the use of trying to "simplify" and "mass market" Darkstalkers, when such a series never had that kind of market share in the first place? No "Vampire" game ever had the appeal of a Street Fighter or MAHVEL game in the West. Udon's Darkstalkers comic run did not last long. Even in the midst of the fighting game resurgence of the last few years, as well as GGPO taking the scene to new heights, Darkstalkers has still been very much a niche thing, especially in the West.
Ono could try and "SF4-ify" Darkstalkers if that's what he REALLY wishes. But I'm thinking that the backlash from the old guard would be even worse than when it came from SF4. The fan-base demographic is much smaller than SF's, and the casual audience is NOT THERE. So, with that much stated, would there really be much that to benefit from trying to make a "casual push" for such a franchise? I say, definitely not.
Furthermore, not everybody believes in this "simplication" mantra, and still gets very positive results. Case in point: BLIZZARD.
Blizzard, as a rule, has always gone to say that they craft a game with the "hardcore" sect of their fanbase in mind, first and foremost. They say that, because they know that their hardcore fanbase is inevitably the hardest one to please, but also because the design model provides a game that will serve to have many levels of depth. This is why, especially, SC2 is the game it is, because as much as some people may not like that the game looks to be little more than a graphical facelift of a game from over a decade ago, the game will still serve to keep its fans happy.
That's the thing that I wish Capcom would get, as well. You can craft a game that can still be hardcore oriented, yet still has various levels that can cater to so many different people, as well. This "streamlining" process may lower the skill threshold required for their games, but it also kills the game's possible livelihood in the process.
I mean, honestly, how many times are Capcom going to allow the continuing of this insanity of "dumbing down" perfectly fine games, and expect a different result?
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What WILL be the end of the world is if there are no more games out, and the best way to ensure that is to SEPARATE THEIR ASSES and nitpicking into one game series which gets downloadable updates, then have a mass-appealing, but training, fighter that might teach people into the competitive scene if they so desire, and if not, is just a fun romp.
LoL, the END OF THE WORLD? I think you are being a tad bit dramatic here.
Also, you keep bringing up Smash Bros. Keep in mind, I don't play competitively with Smash, nor do I have any intention too. However, Smash Bros. is definitely not Marvel vs. Capcom in any way. MvC, like all the VS series games are still pretty traditional FG's, just a little bit more flashy. They still require Combo systems. Now, Brawl has combos as well, but not on the level of real FGs, plus with the Items, Slipping, Smash Balls, etc., it adds a level of craziness, randomness, and silliness that makes the game not a traditional fighter.
There are people who like to play Smash like a competitive fighting game, and that's there right. I simply don't play those people, cause I don't find it fun. But it seems to me that your problem is that people, I'm guessing like Jericho & I, tend to get so good in the game that it becomes un-fun for you, as judged by this comment here...
That's mostly what I play.
And you and Jelly seem to have some tricks I just don't bother to practice up on in that much detail.
'Course Falco's also been nerfed, so that wasn't cool either...
What you call tricks is really just our specific style of playing a character. I play Marth differently than Jericho does (I like to call it....Not-As-Good Marth), just like he plays Capt. Falcon differently than I do (cept for the PANCH, because PANCHING is universal. ALSO, PICK YOUR OWN COSTUME, JELLY!). These are just how we develop and learn with specific characters. From what I remember of playing your Falco, you pretty much just Blaster spammed and smashed (I could be confusing you with someone else, so I apologize if I am). If this is the case, then I can see why you think Falco was nerfed. Falco was NOT nerfed, in ANY way whatsoever. If anything, he either kept his Melee awesomicity, or he was improved. Jigglypuff was nerfed (I STILL cannot understand why Rest was weakened), Fox was nerfed, Sheik was nerfed, but Falco is easily one of the best characters in the game. But again, you're only judging based on one-on-one play, because like I said, when 3 to 4 people are playing, anything goes.
MvC may be a mash-up of characters, but it's still a FG and thus the same rules of how one plays a FG still apply. Listen, I suck at fighting games. I have little to no chance against people like Lou, or my friend Joshmack, because they've been playing fighting games all their life. TatsuCap is the only one I stand somewhat of a chance in because it's simple enough where I can do some combos, and plus both Lou & Joshmack don't practice as much. So either I can get better and try to learn how to truly play and do combos, or simply play for fun and lose. But to nerf the game so that I have a chance to win is kinda silly. It's why I think MvC2 is such an awful game. Any game in which I can pick a certain 3-5 characters and even come close or beat people like Lou or Joshmack means there is something wrong with the game, cause it's CERTAINLY not my skill level. I hope they fix this in MvC3.
So, honestly, that all said, the less MvC:FTW is like TvC, the better off the game may be already. Casual appeal is fine and good, but not if it sacrifices the game's long-lasting appeal in the process.
Personally though, I hope MvC3 is more like TatsuCap than MvC2, just in regards to no Cable, Sentinel, misc. XD
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PB, we have more in common than I thought! ^_^ All very valid points.
As I see it, it all depends on how you play the character. For instance, my ALLSMASH main (meaning I use him in all 3 Smash Bros) is Kirby. And I play Kirby smart; I don't commit Kirbicide (HEY I'LL EAT YOU AND JUMP OFF A CLIFF!), I use his abilities wisely. When one power ceases to be effective, I lose it and try getting another. It all depends on how one plays the character; no one character is inherently better than another. The true strength of a character lies within the cunning and strategies of the player. Even the character with the weakest attacks can become a true monster in the right hands.
What I'm trying to say here is, even if the characters are unbalanced or there's too many to keep a consistent level of quality, it doesn't matter. Any character has the potential to be deadly if the person playing them has the right strategy.
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Nah, I'm not going out shoo'd like some dog:
As along time fighting game fan, and a rather good player at that, I have to completely agree with what Ben has been saying. Don't diminish the expected experience for the seasoned vets. I think Bleach DS did a pretty good job with this. The touch screen had shortcut buttons, however, it FORCED an EX use of the move you pressed the touchscreen button for as a draw back for being lazy. The supers had no drawbacks that I remember, so that was a little broken, but it did help a lot of my less skilled friends still compete reasonably. Some went on to actually learn the commands like I had, to get a better control over things. That was an acceptable 'easy mode' I thought. You could also enable auto guard too, but there was a few limitations if I recall correctly when using it. There was some technique you couldn't do when it was enabled. I think it was canceling into an attack or something. So it all sorta balanced out in its own way.
I did not particularly like MvC2's four button system. But I like the TvC three button system, since its a set of limb-ambiguous buttons, which works better for crossovers, especially anime. I think it worked VERY well in JoJo and MeltyBlood too.
I'm currently browsing the SRK forums, and they're just all up in arms "Oh it's gotta be six buttons or it won't be good." Frankly I think you can make a very diverse set of four (I dunno about three, though) buttons that have different time spans and some launch and be well off. But that's my experience (actually, if you spanned the hit-times out, that might help with balance and priority!).
As for an Easy Mode, I wouldn't rule it out, and since there is a way to do it, I think that the easy mode would have a time-to-execution penalty (and possibly a very negligible damage penalty on the higher damage specials).
Right now, though, I feel like just taking out inputs altogether! Particularly when it's causing this level of grief!!!!!!!!
Fact of the matter is, TvC still didn't change the name of the game all that much. Looking at worldwide sales, as well as quotes from company personnel, it can be gleaned that it was not the Wii fanbase that really helped TvC throughout its two lifetimes. It really boiled down to players who more or less were PS360 fighting game fans, who happened to have a Wii in the household, as well. THEY were the majority that ended up helping the game.
And even there, the game itself couldn't last because it does not have the long-legs of some other fighters. "Casual appeal" not withstanding, it was also the makings of the game's downfall, when it came to longevity. You know some thing is not quite right when Famitsu, whose reviews' quality could always be called into question, stated that the game felt "flat" and that it really boiled down to how players can do the same Baroque combos over and over again. Lo and behold, that's EXACTLY the kind of things that even the most open-minded of FGers have said about the game.
So, honestly, that all said, the less MvC:FTW is like TvC, the better off the game may be already. Casual appeal is fine and good, but not if it sacrifices the game's long-lasting appeal in the process.
And this simplification is still part of the problem, NOT the solution.
For example, as inevitable as it may be, Ono (SF4 producer) getting his hands on a new Darkstalkers game is a source of worry for me and many. Doing what happened to SF4 is one thing, as SF has worldwide appeal that was waiting to be catered to. But what's the use of trying to "simplify" and "mass market" Darkstalkers, when such a series never had that kind of market share in the first place? No "Vampire" game ever had the appeal of a Street Fighter or MAHVEL game in the West. Udon's Darkstalkers comic run did not last long. Even in the midst of the fighting game resurgence of the last few years, as well as GGPO taking the scene to new heights, Darkstalkers has still been very much a niche thing, especially in the West.
Ono could try and "SF4-ify" Darkstalkers if that's what he REALLY wishes. But I'm thinking that the backlash from the old guard would be even worse than when it came from SF4. The fan-base demographic is much smaller than SF's, and the casual audience is NOT THERE. So, with that much stated, would there really be much that to benefit from trying to make a "casual push" for such a franchise? I say, definitely not.
Furthermore, not everybody believes in this "simplication" mantra, and still gets very positive results. Case in point: BLIZZARD.
Blizzard, as a rule, has always gone to say that they craft a game with the "hardcore" sect of their fanbase in mind, first and foremost. They say that, because they know that their hardcore fanbase is inevitably the hardest one to please, but also because the design model provides a game that will serve to have many levels of depth. This is why, especially, SC2 is the game it is, because as much as some people may not like that the game looks to be little more than a graphical facelift of a game from over a decade ago, the game will still serve to keep its fans happy.
That's the thing that I wish Capcom would get, as well. You can craft a game that can still be hardcore oriented, yet still has various levels that can cater to so many different people, as well. This "streamlining" process may lower the skill threshold required for their games, but it also kills the game's possible livelihood in the process.
I mean, honestly, how many times are Capcom going to allow the continuing of this insanity of "dumbing down" perfectly fine games, and expect a different result?
How can you call TvsC good? I can't even do that. It was only on the Wii, had a brand new team that even fewer people were familiar with, a different control style, and felt flat? Not that that's uncommon; most games feel static these days.
At some point, the hardcore crowd was new. Okay? Learning everything. Still has to pick up on new features and frame-timings each installment too, at the very minimum!
Now consider what all we've discussed so far.
Got that?
Okay, now keep in mind that there are people that have trouble with SMB1.
...yeah. Give a marginal benefit for the input crowd, but don't slap new fans in the face for not being "hardcore" right off the [hard knuckle]ing bat.
Or for people, like me, who could probably learn all the strings and combos, and probably do them very well, but really just don't want to bother with that level of headache! Same went for Snaking! Same went for Brawl (which I'll touch on here in a minute)! Same for Guitar Hero!
There's a lot of people and potential buys and even future greats that say "Eh, I dunno" because they see conversations like this, and all the lingo, and all the overcomplication.
And I say, if you're going to value a set of button inputs over just having fun getting together with people, you need to get a life or devote your energies to something actually productive to society. How about that ****?
LoL, the END OF THE WORLD? I think you are being a tad bit dramatic here.
Also, you keep bringing up Smash Bros. Keep in mind, I don't play competitively with Smash, nor do I have any intention too. However, Smash Bros. is definitely not Marvel vs. Capcom in any way. MvC, like all the VS series games are still pretty traditional FG's, just a little bit more flashy. They still require Combo systems. Now, Brawl has combos as well, but not on the level of real FGs, plus with the Items, Slipping, Smash Balls, etc., it adds a level of craziness, randomness, and silliness that makes the game not a traditional fighter.
There are people who like to play Smash like a competitive fighting game, and that's their right. I simply don't play those people, cause I don't find it fun. But it seems to me that your problem is that people, I'm guessing like Jericho & I, tend to get so good in the game that it becomes un-fun for you, as judged by this comment here...
What you call tricks is really just our specific style of playing a character. I play Marth differently than Jericho does (I like to call it....Not-As-Good Marth), just like he plays Capt. Falcon differently than I do (cept for the PANCH, because PANCHING is universal. ALSO, PICK YOUR OWN COSTUME, JELLY!). These are just how we develop and learn with specific characters. From what I remember of playing your Falco, you pretty much just Blaster spammed and smashed (I could be confusing you with someone else, so I apologize if I am). If this is the case, then I can see why you think Falco was nerfed. Falco was NOT nerfed, in ANY way whatsoever. If anything, he either kept his Melee awesomicity, or he was improved. Jigglypuff was nerfed (I STILL cannot understand why Rest was weakened), Fox was nerfed, Sheik was nerfed, but Falco is easily one of the best characters in the game. But again, you're only judging based on one-on-one play, because like I said, when 3 to 4 people are playing, anything goes.
MvC may be a mash-up of characters, but it's still a FG and thus the same rules of how one plays a FG still apply. Listen, I suck at fighting games. I have little to no chance against people like Lou, or my friend Joshmack, because they've been playing fighting games all their life. TatsuCap is the only one I stand somewhat of a chance in because it's simple enough where I can do some combos, and plus both Lou & Joshmack don't practice as much. So either I can get better and try to learn how to truly play and do combos, or simply play for fun and lose. But to nerf the game so that I have a chance to win is kinda silly. It's why I think MvC2 is such an awful game. Any game in which I can pick a certain 3-5 characters and even come close or beat people like Lou or Joshmack means there is something wrong with the game, cause it's CERTAINLY not my skill level. I hope they fix this in MvC3.
Personally though, I hope MvC3 is more like TatsuCap than MvC2, just in regards to no Cable, Sentinel, misc. XD
Of course it sounds dramatic, but the point is, the series may have a bunch of hardcore fans, but those are likely half to less of the current buying market. And appealing to the same market, basic business logic, they're going to eventually fade and disappear, then what?
This isn't a sponsored sport; it's a video game. It's software. It's gotta be purchased by the same mass public as...well, I'm not gonna get into that topic.
So, the game needs to be as didactic as it is hardcore, up-to-snuff, balanced, etc.
Because that's all I could get a lag-ridden Falco to do! You probably also saw me do some really "WTF?" stuff, too; I got rid of Brawl because the online component was constantly serving to be an unknown variable in trying to judge my performance or change in tactics, MUCH LESS trying to deal with a nerfed Dair. That's right, that spike's timing was nerfed. In Melee? If you ran into that thing, you were going down. Brawl? Pfft, nah, you MIGHT get hit with it at just the right time. Other than that, Falco's severely outgunned trying to deal with a Marth; Marth's sword gets ALL SORTS of priority over Falco's Standard, Strong, and Air attacks. Smashes are all you can do! That and projectile spam. Especially in a lag setting, whereas Marth can fairly well do whatever and get a wide, sweeping strike (see: all his Aerials, FFS). If I lost IRL, eh, I might be a little upset that I'm not doing better, but true, I don't spend a lot of time on any game. I'll gladly admit that, because I'm just in it for fun, not to mention I've got work, workout, dating, MBA, and tons of other things to do.
That's why I had to pick Pikachu, and you know what? I was doing pretty good. See if Marth or Capitan can get near me when I DSmash!
But! It wasn't who I wanted to be.
Is it silly to nerf a game? In a competitive setting, obviously. Pro golfers and tennis players don't bloody use handicaps or get to use the lanes. But that's a perfect example of where I'm going with this; especially online, FG's don't offer at least the control fluidity to every player. I think some sort of simplification is in order, then, IF a player learns the inputs, they're rewarded with the competitive edge of extra timing or damage, whatever Capcom (or any dev) decides on.
PB, we have more in common than I thought! ^_^ All very valid points.
As I see it, it all depends on how you play the character. For instance, my ALLSMASH main (meaning I use him in all 3 Smash Bros) is Kirby. And I play Kirby smart; I don't commit Kirbicide (HEY I'LL EAT YOU AND JUMP OFF A CLIFF!), I use his abilities wisely. When one power ceases to be effective, I lose it and try getting another. It all depends on how one plays the character; no one character is inherently better than another. The true strength of a character lies within the cunning and strategies of the player. Even the character with the weakest attacks can become a true monster in the right hands.
What I'm trying to say here is, even if the characters are unbalanced or there's too many to keep a consistent level of quality, it doesn't matter. Any character has the potential to be deadly if the person playing them has the right strategy.
Not true in all cases, Green. You can evade and guard or just generally run like heck as weaker characters, and then wait for openings and start wailing.
But that goes for any character. That's one of the most basic (and not surprisingly, effective) combat tactics. It still does not account for rampant overlaps in priority or timing when it comes to matching up characters.
I still love playing video games, always will. But my business mind and empathy for the public is starting to clash with the fanbases. Can't count how many topics and times I've dreaded coming to the Gaming sub-forum to have to argue with Hypershell, HokutoNoBen, or whoever. I want to appreciate games, and make them accessible to more people so that there can be more shared passion for it. But that clashes with the people that are already playing.
Done conflicting. Done arguing. Not what I'm here to do. I'm here to wonder at distant galaxies with head-shaped planets, puzzle my brain with falling blocks, and be the funny, timeless hero when I can't myself. And if I get shell-shocked? Grab some pizza, and get back to making the party cuh-raz-uh.
And I want you guys to as well.
So, I'm just going on ahead and logging out.
Been a good run, eh? I don't guess I ever really fit in, but you're a great bunch, really. The fact that you're and your own individual selves instead of blindly following what's fed to you really says something for each and every one of ya, and I'm gonna miss that about this place.
Hey, there's only one stylish way to go about this. owob
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Jesus Christ, it's Sonic Unleashed all over again... XD
Remember guys, these are just video games, even with our love for them.
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You know some thing is not quite right when Famitsu, whose reviews' quality could always be called into question, stated that the game felt "flat" and that it really boiled down to how players can do the same Baroque combos over and over again. Lo and behold, that's EXACTLY the kind of things that even the most open-minded of FGers have said about the game.
Huh? I've been watching the scene since the beginning and that's not how I've seen it. Hell, combos are not the best use of baroque, it's just one of them.
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I honestly prefer 3 buttons to 4 buttons (2k,2p). Having a low mid and high, even if just one set, I find much more engaging and strategic. Games with a WIDE variety of combat styles and or weapons seem to benefit from having 3 buttons, since it takes away the 'kick' and 'punch' division which some characters do not comply with very well.
Street Fighter's main series should never get away from the 6 buttons though. I dont particularly think they should go for an easy mode either. Command delays and hit delays are also a stupid idea for punishment on using easy mode. A damage penalty is also stupid. That would break things way too much, and possibly spur the normal gameplay being changed to accommodate for the easy mode.
Darkstalkers I agree 100%. If they even so much as look at the core gameplay of that series the wrong way the fans will jump ship like its on fire.
ONLY LITTLE KIDS HAVE TO PLAY ON EASY MODE
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Huh? I've been watching the scene since the beginning and that's not how I've seen it. Hell, combos are not the best use of baroque, it's just one of them.
Same here. That was Famitsu's quote, and while it's a gross over-generalization to some degree, it has merit. It's the same kinda thing that JWong "lolKaras" and some others have talked about for a while now. The balance of the game starts to lose its appeal when it just becomes so...sterile, as a result.
I honestly prefer 3 buttons to 4 buttons (2k,2p). Having a low mid and high, even if just one set, I find much more engaging and strategic. Games with a WIDE variety of combat styles and or weapons seem to benefit from having 3 buttons, since it takes away the 'kick' and 'punch' division which some characters do not comply with very well.
To me though, MvC2's problem wasn't that it utilized the 4 button system, it was that Capcom didn't really transfer the characters from past games to that system very well.
Beyond things like cutting whole frames of animation, reducing the interface to 4 main attack buttons also meant cutting out valuable tools, such as actual "mid" attacks/specials, that were important to how some characters operated. Characters that used to be competent/very good in the previous games instantly fell to squalor by MvC2, as a result.
What I'm hoping for most is that, with this being a new game, it effectively translates to Capcom having to construct each character within the confines of whatever they choose as the input system. I personally wouldn't mind the 4+2 system again, as I thought it was done well, and it's all that you need in order for those who play with pads to be able to keep up. But I'd be open to either pure 6 buttons or maybe even a modified TvC-style of 3+2 assists, if it was done right.
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I personally thought TvC is a step in the right direction w/ simple accessibility while having depth. I do hope for a TvC2 so Capcom can keep on improving on what is accomplished there.
Which is also kinda why I hope MvC3 is in the direction of what TvC did, but that's about it, despite the fact I wasn't too engrossed w/ MvC2, but I did have fun w/ it even though I get my ass owned 7-ways when a random pro joins in the arcade lol.
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Okay, since I don't feel like pointing out the hypocrisy of the majority of your post, I'll simply stick to your response to me...
Of course it sounds dramatic, but the point is, the series may have a bunch of hardcore fans, but those are likely half to less of the current buying market. And appealing to the same market, basic business logic, they're going to eventually fade and disappear, then what?
This isn't a sponsored sport; it's a video game. It's software. It's gotta be purchased by the same mass public as...well, I'm not gonna get into that topic.
So, the game needs to be as didactic as it is hardcore, up-to-snuff, balanced, etc.
Listen Reggie, I fully agree with what Nintendo is doing, and I applaud them for it. I love my Wii, probably a lot more than my "hardcore PS3 or 360" and Nintendo has been proving themselves right for a few years now with their appeal to the untapped market. However, what your describing is a lot more like Comic Book fandom than it is the VG market. Sadly, Comic Books aren't drawing in any new fans, and people like myself are really the only ones who reads them. Comics will have to evolve in order to stay alive past my generation.
LoL, as for Video Games not being a sponsored sport, Perhaps you are unaware of this. (http://www.mlgpro.com/) Video games, to my surprise actually, have indeed become a sponsored sport. Believe me, I can see it when I go online and play Halo every Tues. and Thurs. We sometimes CLEARLY play with people a lot better than we are. I can see it when I go to PAX and watch pro SFIV players just going toe to toe with one another. And what you describe as "didactic" is the same as Flame's discussion as how he finds bad, glitch filled games to be enjoyable. It's all within the eye of the beholder.
Because that's all I could get a lag-ridden Falco to do! You probably also saw me do some really "WTF?" stuff, too; I got rid of Brawl because the online component was constantly serving to be an unknown variable in trying to judge my performance or change in tactics, MUCH LESS trying to deal with a nerfed Dair. That's right, that spike's timing was nerfed. In Melee? If you ran into that thing, you were going down. Brawl? Pfft, nah, you MIGHT get hit with it at just the right time. Other than that, Falco's severely outgunned trying to deal with a Marth; Marth's sword gets ALL SORTS of priority over Falco's Standard, Strong, and Air attacks. Smashes are all you can do! That and projectile spam. Especially in a lag setting, whereas Marth can fairly well do whatever and get a wide, sweeping strike (see: all his Aerials, FFS). If I lost IRL, eh, I might be a little upset that I'm not doing better, but true, I don't spend a lot of time on any game. I'll gladly admit that, because I'm just in it for fun, not to mention I've got work, workout, dating, MBA, and tons of other things to do.
We ALL do WTF stuff in Brawl. Hell, I have a 2GB Memory Card inside my Wii FILLED with all the WTF moments that have taken place in Brawl, with or without lag. Also again, if you're judging Falco by one-on-one play, then according to the SSBB Tier List, he's currently #4, and that's behind abusively cheap Metaknight, Priority Boy Snake, and I'm not quite sure why Diddy Kong. None of us like the lag factor, and it's a valid reason to get rid of the game. And hey, life definitely tends to get in the way of gaming. Lord knows I have so many games I still need to play, beat, or get back into. But judging by this...
That's why I had to pick Pikachu, and you know what? I was doing pretty good. See if Marth or Capitan can get near me when I DSmash!
But! It wasn't who I wanted to be.
...it really seems like your problem was that you simply wanted to play the game, have fun, AND win constantly. If you were just in it for fun, why not continue to play as Falco, despite what happens or how good Marth is? As you said, you dropped Brawl because of the lag, which is fine, but judging by this and other statements saying how you didn't have the time or effort or even the desire to learn how to fully utilize a character in a game, you picked a character you didn't want to pick because his Down Smash is insanely good. All this does is remind me of the same people who pick Cable, Sentinel, and Misc. in MvC2 because they can be played cheaply to win. But hey, that's neither here nor there at this point.
Is it silly to nerf a game? In a competitive setting, obviously. Pro golfers and tennis players don't bloody use handicaps or get to use the lanes. But that's a perfect example of where I'm going with this; especially online, FG's don't offer at least the control fluidity to every player. I think some sort of simplification is in order, then, IF a player learns the inputs, they're rewarded with the competitive edge of extra timing or damage, whatever Capcom (or any dev) decides on.
LoL, so your argument is based on the fact that Video Games aren't a sponsored sport. Well, besides the fact that I've proven that it is, what you've stated here is simply mindboggling. If I am reading this correctly, you're saying that if a novice player utilizes some simple "easy mode" chain of commands, then does indeed learn how to input the correct combo commands in correctly, they should be rewarded by doing EXTRA DAMAGE OR GOING FASTER? What sense does that make? If you learn how to do the combo commands, then you can compete. If you learn how to implement the strategies, then you can compete. What you've stated is not only illogical, it's also unfair to the people who actual have spent time and effort learning how to play said game.
I still love playing video games, always will. But my business mind and empathy for the public is starting to clash with the fanbases. Can't count how many topics and times I've dreaded coming to the Gaming sub-forum to have to argue with Hypershell, HokutoNoBen, or whoever. I want to appreciate games, and make them accessible to more people so that there can be more shared passion for it. But that clashes with the people that are already playing.
Done conflicting. Done arguing. Not what I'm here to do. I'm here to wonder at distant galaxies with head-shaped planets, puzzle my brain with falling blocks, and be the funny, timeless hero when I can't myself. And if I get shell-shocked? Grab some pizza, and get back to making the party cuh-raz-uh.
And here we have much MUCH more over-drama. What you consider "my business mind and empathy for the public clashing with the fanbases" is simply a difference of [tornado fang]ing opinion, one which you've completely overblown to the point of you having left RPM over. You say you want to appreciate games, but yet you get so hyper emotional over a difference in opinion that you clearly take games JUST as seriously as the competitive, "hardcore" gamers that you seem to dislike, cause if you didn't, there wouldn't be all this dramatic false-heroic gamer bullshit you seem to have in your head. But hey, don't let me dissuade you from your beliefs, if that's what keeps you going. If you indeed stay off RPM, then by all means, enjoy gaming for whatever it means to you.
To me though, MvC2's problem wasn't that it utilized the 4 button system, it was that Capcom didn't really transfer the characters from past games to that system very well.
Really? Cause I think MvC2's main problem was Cable, Sentinel, etc.! XD
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So, can we leave the drama behind and go back to discussing how awesome a team of triple Deadpool would be or whatever?
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8u7px_GzWQ[/youtube]
I like Lou's idea of making it not only where Deadpool constantly talks trash (which I think Spidey should do as well), but how during his Super, Deadpool should break the 4th wall and yell out GONNA TAKE YOU FOR A RIDE!
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He also should mention something about being excluded from the previous games, and for turning the 4th wall to dust it'd be fun if he said some FG lingo from time to time or in his win quotes. Also, a shoryuken is must XD
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Really? Cause I think MvC2's main problem was Cable, Sentinel, etc.! XD
That's the thing about MAHVEL. Despite what some people may think, the tiers are actually quite spread out, such that if you remove the top 4-6 characters, you'll just have a NEW "God Tier" that takes it place.
Low tier tourneys' ban lists try to have a reason to their madness for that particular reason. Immediately after you ban the "Sinister 6", then it's time to take out the likes of War Machine, Iron Man, Cyclops, Strider+Doom and etc too, because they would immediately be next in line after Cable and dem are out. 8D
But what I'm talking about relates to how MAHVEL was constructed itself. The reason why most Capcom characters (barring Strider and CapCom) are not even able to really compete on the higher end, is because they have NOTHING to really combat the Marvel combatants. The Marvel combatants were constructed to fight each other. The Capcom side was immediately at a huge disadvantage, as a result, because they don't have the options that the Marvel side possesses. Cutting out the medium attacks/specials that characters used to possess didn't improve things, either. In past games throughout the Marvel series, Charlie, Ryu, Dhalsim and Zangief (MvC) were actually quite good. You take away their options and well, that's the reason why they're not really viable any more come MvC2. The cutting out of options hurt many characters, but none more so than on the Capcom side of the equation.
This, is why I'm hoping that MvC3 is a chance for a nice change. Even out the playing field a bit, since everything's back to "square one", and we're not re-using CPS2-era assets for the umpteenth time. TvC's rendition of the Capcom camp is a nice start, but gameplay-wise, they would ALL still get their asses waxed wholesale compared to the MvC2's Marvel camp. 8-way dash, unfly/fly, extremely low-air dashes = GG TvC Capcom dudes. 8D
So, in a nutshell, it'll be interesting to see how Niitsuma-tachi will be able to do this. I await the results... :D
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Since it looks like Deadpool is already in the game I really just want one thing. Please make him talk non-stop Deadpool is known for never shutting up so it would be cool if they could find a way to pull this off. Also just to be even more annoying since Deadpool breaks the 4th wall all the time he should sing a line from MvsC2 ("gonna take you for a ride") as a taunt, when he switches in/assist, or when he starts his super. Another idea for breaking the 4th wall would be him insulting the person using him and the person he is fighting.
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I believe it was already alluded to that the likes of Spidey's "DO YOUR JOB!" was going to make a return. I can only hope that means that Mr. Wilson will get even more in the way of that type of attention.
He needs a Hyper Combo that would actually have him jumping off the screen so that he can attack the opponent's life bar directly. Just literally take a sword and hit it! 8D
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I still say that NPH should voice Spidey in this game!
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I still say that NPH should voice Spidey in this game!
While I thought NPH was fine, it's Christopher Barnes' version of Petey that I keep hearing in my head, personally. Wouldn't mind it at all if they got him back.
SPEAKING OF WHICH! They really need to get Cal Dodd to play Wolverine again. I usually love Steve Blum in almost everything EXCEPT his Wolverine. It just can't compare to Dodd's, in my ears. 8D
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While I thought NPH was fine, it's Christopher Barnes' version of Petey that I keep hearing in my head, personally. Wouldn't mind it at all if they got him back.
SPEAKING OF WHICH! They really need to get Cal Dodd to play Wolverine again. I usually love Steve Blum in almost everything EXCEPT his Wolverine. It just can't compare to Dodd's, in my ears. 8D
LoL, you 90's cartoon whore you! 8D
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LoL, you 90's cartoon whore you! 8D
As far as toons go, I have no problem being an unabashed, 80s & 90s-biased "decade-ist". 8D
Maybe the year 2010, and the new decade to come can stand to change the trend, because there really wasn't enough that tickled my fancy in that last decade. It didn't help that that few things that actually DID (re: TMNT2K3, Spectacular Spidey, JLU) either a) got canceled or b) turned to crap some where within its later years.
And let's not forget that the 2000s brought us the likes of LOONATICS UNLEASHED. For that, it MUST be punished! NEVER FORGET! 8D
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As far as toons go, I have no problem being an unabashed, 80s & 90s-biased "decade-ist". 8D
Maybe the year 2010, and the new decade to come can stand to change the trend, because there really wasn't enough that tickled my fancy in that last decade. It didn't help that that few things that actually DID (re: TMNT2K3, Spectacular Spidey, JLU) either a) got canceled or b) turned to crap some where within its later years.
And let's not forget that the 2000s brought us the likes of LOONATICS UNLEASHED. For that, it MUST be punished! NEVER FORGET! 8D
All valid points. Believe me, I think it's such a shame that Spectacular Spidey was canceled. However, I really do think that was the best cartoon version of Spidey there was, in terms of writing and fantastic Spidey-quippage, so I'd love to see him voice MvC3 Spidey, or at the very least the up-incoming Ultimate Spidey cartoon.
I do agree that Dodd's Wolvie was better than Blum's, but I don't think Blum's Wolvie is bad. Hell, I wouldn't even mind them getting Scott McNeil to voice Wolvie again, just because he makes just about everything awesome! 8D
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That explains why Blum's voice was familiar...
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While I thought NPH was fine, it's Christopher Barnes' version of Petey that I keep hearing in my head, personally. Wouldn't mind it at all if they got him back.
SPEAKING OF WHICH! They really need to get Cal Dodd to play Wolverine again. I usually love Steve Blum in almost everything EXCEPT his Wolverine. It just can't compare to Dodd's, in my ears. 8D
This... very much so this.
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LOONATICS UNLEASHED.
Gee thanks. Just when I had forgotten all about that.
90's toons ftw.
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::hums The X-men Theme:: I loved that toon! Wolverine quotes: "Outta my way, bub!" or "I go where I wanna go!" Best Wolverine evar!
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All valid points. Believe me, I think it's such a shame that Spectacular Spidey was canceled. However, I really do think that was the best cartoon version of Spidey there was, in terms of writing and fantastic Spidey-quippage, so I'd love to see him voice MvC3 Spidey, or at the very least the up-incoming Ultimate Spidey cartoon.
Win. Josh Keaton did an amazing job with Peter Parker in that show. He's my pick for MvC3 Spidey. I love me some 90s Spidey, but when you take a step back, the writing was horribly uneven, much like the animation. And the inner monologues; argh, the inner monologues won't stop!
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I love me some 90s Spidey, but when you take a step back, the writing was horribly uneven, much like the animation. And the inner monologues; argh, the inner monologues won't stop!
Can't really blame him for the voicework though, he did a good job with what he was given. Yeah, the inner monologues were bad, but the reason there was so many was that they were following the writing style comics, which were in the *shudder* clone saga at that time. So many inner monologues during that time.
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Can't really blame him for the voicework though, he did a good job with what he was given. Yeah, the inner monologues were bad, but the reason there was so many was that they were following the writing style comics, which were in the *shudder* clone saga at that time. So many inner monologues during that time.
It wasn't just the Clone Saga, though. Petey/Spidey, by nature, was a character that was prone to monologues throughout his career. This includes even the likes of spin-offs such as "Untold Tales of Spider-Man", which pretty much everybody agreed was good (and a nice escape from the silliness of what was going on in the mainstream Spidey comics, no less!). 8D
On that note, while I usually get on the Clone Saga band-wagon for hateration, there's one bit of an ironic point that I just can't ignore.
For better or worse, the Clone Saga's ORIGINAL ending would have served for Petey (the clone) to lose his powers, retire to some place in Montana and live happily ever after with MJ and the Spidey-baby. Ben, meanwhile, would have served as a means to take Spiderman back to a character who was a bachelor, and endure everything that comes from single-life and super hero, as well as the tragedy of a guy who lost out a good few decades' worth of the life he was meant to have. Apparently, THAT wasn't good enough, as the combined bitching of the fanbase wanted and brought PETER back.
So, in the end, we lose a perfectly good guy like Ben, just for Peter to have, among other things, a "failed pregnancy", MJ and Petey to have a marriage on the rocks, Peter to get the revelation that Gwen was [tornado fang]ing NORMAN OSBORN ON THE DL (and had two freaky kids as a result), reveal his secret identity to the world and then make a [tornado fang]ing DEAL WITH THE DEVIL HIMSELF....all for Peter to go back to being a single-guy who lives with Aunt May, all over again.
Was the trip really necessary, if all that was going to happen is some thing akin to the result that yielded from the Clone Saga's original ending, any way? This is why I really loathe Marvel comics right now. It's fundamentally as bad as what they did with Cyclops back in the day. They may have retconned it several times, but that's just to try and make Scottie's act of abandoning his WIFE AND CHILD to pursue his dead girlfriend look better! 8D
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It wasn't just the Clone Saga, though. Petey/Spidey, by nature, was a character that was prone to monologues throughout his career. This includes even the likes of spin-offs such as "Untold Tales of Spider-Man", which pretty much everybody agreed was good (and a nice escape from the silliness of what was going on in the mainstream Spidey comics, no less!). 8D
Oh, I'm quite aware of that... it just got especially bad there, not that I really mind. It's the way that saga was handled... now that I have a problem with 8D
It wasn't just the Clone Saga, though. Petey/Spidey, by nature, was a character that was prone to monologues throughout his career. This includes even the likes of spin-offs such as "Untold Tales of Spider-Man", which pretty much everybody agreed was good (and a nice escape from the silliness of what was going on in the mainstream Spidey comics, no less!). 8D
On that note, while I usually get on the Clone Saga band-wagon for hateration, there's one bit of an ironic point that I just can't ignore.
For better or worse, the Clone Saga's ORIGINAL ending would have served for Petey (the clone) to lose his powers, retire to some place in Montana and live happily ever after with MJ and the Spidey-baby. Ben, meanwhile, would have served as a means to take Spiderman back to a character who was a bachelor, and endure everything that comes from single-life and super hero, as well as the tragedy of a guy who lost out a good few decades' worth of the life he was meant to have. Apparently, THAT wasn't good enough, as the combined bitching of the fanbase wanted and brought PETER back.
So, in the end, we lose a perfectly good guy like Ben, just for Peter to have, among other things, a "failed pregnancy", MJ and Petey to have a marriage on the rocks, Peter to get the revelation that Gwen was [tornado fang]ing NORMAN OSBORN ON THE DL (and had two freaky kids as a result), reveal his secret identity to the world and then make a [tornado fang]ing DEAL WITH THE DEVIL HIMSELF....all for Peter to go back to being a single-guy who lives with Aunt May, all over again.
Was the trip really necessary, if all that was going to happen is some thing akin to the result that yielded from the Clone Saga's original ending, any way? This is why I really loathe Marvel comics right now. It's fundamentally as bad as what they did with Cyclops back in the day. They may have retconned it several times, but that's just to try and make Scottie's act of abandoning his WIFE AND CHILD to pursue his dead girlfriend look better! 8D
It would have been better if the story didn't flipflop around. Since the story changed hands so many times though, it was a gigantic mess. Y'know, I think more people would have been fine with Ben being Spidey if Peter still remained the original. Instead, they decided to kill off a decent character with good potential (along with many others actually, in both a literal and figurative sense) and then bring back the idea way down the line in the stupidest manner possible.
Also, it's worth noting that they sort of make fun of the whole clone saga thing at the end of the 90s show, which is great.
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Also, it's worth noting that they sort of make fun of the whole clone saga thing at the end of the 90s show, which is great.
Spidey: ...This is like a BAD COMIC BOOK PLOT! 8D
Even as the 90s toon went out with more of a nonsensical whimper, it was at least able to poke fun at itself, and the currently running comic.
I swear, 90s Spidey and Xmen were BOTH awesome, until they just didn't let it go with the time travel, alternate dimensions and all that kind of crap. Dunno why the show's writers thought that stuff would be the kind of things that fans would like, and such. We all loved the toons because of them doing things verbatim or close enough to what the comics did. And frankly the further they went from that, the worse it got.
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Spidey: ...This is like a BAD COMIC BOOK PLOT! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l3Bo1MK9_Q) 8D
Fixed that for you 8D
Even as the 90s toon went out with more of a nonsensical whimper, it was at least able to poke fun at itself, and the currently running comic.
I swear, 90s Spidey and Xmen were BOTH awesome, until they just didn't let it go with the time travel, alternate dimensions and all that kind of crap. Dunno why the show's writers thought that stuff would be the kind of things that fans would like, and such. We all loved the toons because of them doing things verbatim or close enough to what the comics did. And frankly the further they went from that, the worse it got.
Yeah, some of those plots had potential, but they overdid it a bit.
Back on topic, I wonder what they'll make the final boss this time.
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Well, I believe it was stated that the Boss (likely a Marvel pick), would be one that would delight longtime fans.
Again, my thoughts drift to some one like Dark Phoenix. There's not too many plot arcs remembered as fondly as the Phoenix Saga, and the Phoenix Force is still relevant even in today's era. Besides, if the likes of Dormmamu (who could be boss material, himself) is a "mere playable", it needs to be some one who could be a more believable threat to him and "both worlds~!!!!!". I'd like to think a personality who could snuff out an entire galaxy, and whose powers deny lifeforce to future generations, would definitely be such. XD
Besides, such a thing doesn't necessarily mean that Jean/Phoenix herself couldn't be playable. It'd be just another "Inner Struggle!" moment, for her! 8D
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To me though, MvC2's problem wasn't that it utilized the 4 button system, it was that Capcom didn't really transfer the characters from past games to that system very well.
Yeah, you have a point here. That is the main reason I hated it. I found it incredibly frustrating not having some of the mid specials.
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On that note, while I usually get on the Clone Saga band-wagon for hateration, there's one bit of an ironic point that I just can't ignore.
For better or worse, the Clone Saga's ORIGINAL ending would have served for Petey (the clone) to lose his powers, retire to some place in Montana and live happily ever after with MJ and the Spidey-baby. Ben, meanwhile, would have served as a means to take Spiderman back to a character who was a bachelor, and endure everything that comes from single-life and super hero, as well as the tragedy of a guy who lost out a good few decades' worth of the life he was meant to have. Apparently, THAT wasn't good enough, as the combined bitching of the fanbase wanted and brought PETER back.
So, in the end, we lose a perfectly good guy like Ben, just for Peter to have, among other things, a "failed pregnancy", MJ and Petey to have a marriage on the rocks, Peter to get the revelation that Gwen was [tornado fang]ing NORMAN OSBORN ON THE DL (and had two freaky kids as a result), reveal his secret identity to the world and then make a [tornado fang]ing DEAL WITH THE DEVIL HIMSELF....all for Peter to go back to being a single-guy who lives with Aunt May, all over again.
Was the trip really necessary, if all that was going to happen is some thing akin to the result that yielded from the Clone Saga's original ending, any way? This is why I really loathe Marvel comics right now. It's fundamentally as bad as what they did with Cyclops back in the day. They may have retconned it several times, but that's just to try and make Scottie's act of abandoning his WIFE AND CHILD to pursue his dead girlfriend look better! 8D
Oh, I'll be the first one to say that as terrible as I think the Clone Saga is, I think the Spidey-Mephisto OMD thing was the worst event in comics history. It was just the climax of about 5-6 years of god awful Spidey writing, and all it showed was that "With Great Power comes ZERO Responsibility." It's essentially the Midichlorians of Comic Books. Almost everyone says that after OMD, Spidey has gotten better. WELL, IT COULDN'T POSSIBLY BE MUCH WORSE........unless Loeb took a crack at the Web Slinger.....
Yeah, some of those plots had potential, but they overdid it a bit.
Hell, the title of that was "I Really Really Hate Clones!" XD
To be fair, as much as I am not a tremendous fan of the 90's Spidey show, I will admit that The Alien Costume 3-parter to end Season 1 was actually very well done and very well written. After that though, save for a few episodes, it just never really impressed me all that much. 90's X-Men I thought was great until after the 4 parter with the Axis of Time.
As for final boss on the Marvel level, Annihillus would be one of my picks. Galactus would be pretty odd, but fun I think too.
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Hayato better still be in it. All I'm sayin'.
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WELL, IT COULDN'T POSSIBLY BE MUCH WORSE........unless Loeb took a crack at the Web Slinger.....
NEW SPIDER-MAN MOVIE TO BE DIRECTED BY UWE BOLL!
See, it could be worse. :P
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http://www.gametrailers.com/video/top-10-screwattack/64935
oh dat screwattack 8D
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NEW SPIDER-MAN MOVIE TO BE DIRECTED BY UWE BOLL!
See, it could be worse. :P
Clearly you haven't read Spidey in the past 5-6 years.
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Sadly, I've never read any Spidey comics... *hides from backlash*
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Sadly, I've never read any Spidey comics... *hides from backlash*
Blues is right on the money, tho. Don't feel too bad though.
It's sad when one can say that Uwe Boll could get the rights to make a Spiderman flick, and it would, at "worst", probably match what's going on in the comics within the last few years. 8D
SERIOUSLY. Uwe Boll could do whatever he wants, and it couldn't be any more off the wall than what happened in the comics, such as Peter having a talk with Queen Spider, and then getting more super powers that way (which he then LOSES after OMD). 8D
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SERIOUSLY. Uwe Boll could do whatever he wants, and it couldn't be any more off the wall than what happened in the comics, such as Peter having a talk with Queen Spider, and then getting more super powers that way (which he then LOSES after OMD). 8D
Loses? Ben, HE NEVER EVEN USES THOSE POWERS, SAVE FOR MAYBE ONE OR TWO ISSUES. As soon as Civil War starts, you never see him use those powers again. Of course, in the case of the stupid Spider Stingers coming out of his arm, that's a good thing.
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I saw some scans of some weird scene where he's in some rainbow-colored land being wrapped up by a giant spider... wait, he's passed out in the bathtub with pill bottles around him? Yeah, it's weird...
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Loses? Ben, HE NEVER EVEN USES THOSE POWERS, SAVE FOR MAYBE ONE OR TWO ISSUES. As soon as Civil War starts, you never see him use those powers again. Of course, in the case of the stupid Spider Stingers coming out of his arm, that's a good thing.
True, but you can say that they were safely "retconned away" by the time BND started. What happened before was laziness, and was merely an excuse to get Peter to shoot organic webs instead of webshooters proper (a la the films).
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True, but you can say that they were safely "retconned away" by the time BND started. What happened before was laziness, and was merely an excuse to get Peter to shoot organic webs instead of webshooters proper (a la the films).
The organic webbing, the better night vision, the better feeling of the vibrations on the web.....
Allllllllll gone.
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Anybody from Sengoku Basara, Knights of the Round, Final Fight, or Monster Hunters. Or Dudley. I mean, he's Dudley, why the eff not?
Goblin should be in this just for the lulz. Or Scorpion.
Also, Beyonder would be awesome.
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Credit to Eventhubs. Some might find what Seth says interesting. (http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2010/apr/28/seth-tvc-beat-initial-sales-expectations/)
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All valid points. Believe me, I think it's such a shame that Spectacular Spidey was canceled. However, I really do think that was the best cartoon version of Spidey there was, in terms of writing and fantastic Spidey-quippage, so I'd love to see him voice MvC3 Spidey, or at the very least the up-incoming Ultimate Spidey cartoon.
Wait, that was officially canceled? And here I've been holding out for a Season 3. :'(
That said, I'd say that I'm pretty much on the same page with what Ben has been saying. 6-button would be a much better system IMO, as it tends to give characters more options. MvC2 caused a lot of characters to lose tools that they had once had, and generally felt more incomplete than the previous games in the series. TBPH, I liked MvC1 better just because it had a more complete feel; MvC2 pretty much just took every character and plopped them into the game. Easier commands could be an option, and as Ben said, SFA2 did a wonderful job at it. TvC's Wiimote is honestly a little unbalanced. Despite the fact that you can't do advanced stuff with it, players can still spam certain moves that couldn't be spammed normally (HADANGEKIHADANGEKIHADANGEKI!!!).
Also, I'd rather have 2v2 than 3v3. The latter is just too much happening at once for my tastes. With 2 on 2, I have an easier time keeping track of what's going on with my team.
Character-wise, I'd like to see Volnutt or another Legends character return, but Sigma would also be nice. Preferably his pre-virus Hunter variation.
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Seth speaks! :D
Apr 28, 2010 -- 2:50PM, David wrote:
i've read things saying that its going to have elements from street fighter 4
i've also read that the 3 vs 3 style is coming back...but also read that its going to be completely different from MVC2 as well as different from Tatsunoko vs Capcom?
so of the three, which game would Marvel vs Capcom 3 resemble most in terms of gameplay?
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There's a lot of stuff flying around, but in terms of SFIV, the biggest similarity is simply in terms of using 3D models with a 2D fighting style.
3v3 is back, and as far as "completely different" from MVC2 I would say that is simply not correct. It ain't. In terms of gameplay, between SFIV, TVC, and MVC2, MVC3 will by far most resemble MVC2.
best,
Seth
- http://www.capcom-unity.com/ask_capcom/go/thread/view/7371/23252365/so_which_game_will_marvel_vs_capcom_3_more_closely_resemble&post_num=6#411769001 (http://www.capcom-unity.com/ask_capcom/go/thread/view/7371/23252365/so_which_game_will_marvel_vs_capcom_3_more_closely_resemble&post_num=6#411769001)
Good to hear. I loved TvC, but MvC3 should definitely play more like its predecessor, and let TvC be its own thing.
Also! Just so it gets mentioned, D.C. Douglas (Wesker's current voice actor) posted the MvC3 trailer on his Facebook and said "just thought I'd post this....no particular reason...." 8D
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YAY! I can handle 4 buttons! 8D
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Your avvy fits your post; are you dancing in happiness? :P
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https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_sc_3_11?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=marvel+vs+capcom+3&x=0&y=0&sprefix=Marvel+vs.+
*shitjustgotreal.gif*
Any way, if Amazon has it up, chances are, Gamestop isn't too far behind. So if you wanna start pre-ordering now... owob
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LoL, I have till 2011, so I can wait.
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https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_sc_3_11?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=marvel+vs+capcom+3&x=0&y=0&sprefix=Marvel+vs.+
*shitjustgotreal.gif*
Any way, if Amazon has it up, chances are, Gamestop isn't too far behind. So if you wanna start pre-ordering now... owob
Its been up at my store the day after it was announced. I am going to wait til they announce who gets what Pre-order bonus before I order mine.
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The newest issue of Game Informer actually has a nice little reveal on the game itself, including what seems to be actual shots of gameplay.
From GAF
sorry if this is old but i got my new gameinformer today and there is an article on this (haven't read it yet). screenshots look amazing by the way. anyway they confirmed the following characters (showed 9 bios for fighters). anyway i'm sure some (if not all of this) is old news.
chris redfield
the hulk
dante
captain america
felicia
wolverine
morrigan
deadpool
iron man
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yep. real info. they looked like gameplay screens to me. very stylized look. i predict many will not be happy. i am not sure how i feel about it yet. i only got to look at that article for about 30 seconds. read deadpool's bio though. interesting stuff about some of his attacks.
[spoiler]his teleportation device will comically malfunction if you spam teleport. he breaks the fourth wall by beating his opponents with his health bar.[/spoiler]
i know that i don't like the way wolvie looks in the shots. too round shouldered or something.
That's about all I can do until scans get online. But thus far, a lot of what I'm reading makes me happy. Especially when it comes to Wade! XD XD
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The bit about Deadpool was much more than enough to hype me XD
Posted on: May 07, 2010, 11:11:10 PM
Also, according to SRK Tatsu control scheme is in. Now please excuse me while I go point and laugh at the haters XD
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[parasitic bomb] just got really real.
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Iron Man needs a super where he takes Cap's shield and just uses it to prop himself up! 8D
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Yes, yes he does XD
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Also, according to SRK Tatsu control scheme is in. Now please excuse me while I go point and laugh at the haters XD
Oh, dear...some what expected, given that this game is definitely going to be trying to woo casuals as well, but still.... bVd
On the other hand, I can't imagine it being verbatim to TvC, if 3v3 is confirmed. There's no way you could have anything like that without at least 5 buttons, for the two assists, in that case.
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Well, it's possible, maybe not the best but still possible. Remember KoF2k1 and its striker system? I'm thinking that if it only has exactly 4 buttons that it could work like that.
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Well, it's possible, maybe not the best but still possible. Remember KoF2k1 and its striker system? I'm thinking that if it only has exactly 4 buttons that it could work like that.
...But...people hated 2K1 for a lot of things...among them being that final straw that made it so nobody wanted anything more to do with the "Striker" system. >3<
Besides, if there's one thing I'm sure people hate, it's the notion of trying to map too many things to groupings of buttons, or trying to map too many things to a single button. It's one thing to hit two buttons for the sake of activating a Hyper Combo, or some other type of system specific function. It's another thing altogether when you start getting a bit ornery with it, which is what I think would happen if they tried to do some sort of bastardized fusion of TvC and/or KOF01 did it with the Assists.
I mean, I already wasn't that hot with the idea of how you had to press BACK+ASST in order to tag out manually in TvC, because it reminded me a bit too much of KOF01. So many times I had to fight with that mechanic, that I often just said "screw it" and focused on using the DHCs and Aerial Variable Raves as a more reliable means of tagging out. While it's a good strategy altogether, I really don't want to have to face that kind of that crap again, only with whole nother button to be concerned with this time. No thanks. I would have rather had my LK+LP/HK+HP means of tagging out.
And let's forget how TvC was pretty ornery when it came to doing Crossover Hyper Combos, too. You had to execute the super and THEN press the tag button within a certain amount of frames to get it off. No previous game in the "Marvel" style forced you to do THAT much work in order to get off a Crossover Combo.
It's things like this that just serve to boggle my mind when it came to TvC. They obviously wanted to make it a much more casual affair, and yet they did a number of things that I think were not conducive to making sure the user never had to worry about "fighting the controls" in order to get off basic things that were easy enough to do in past games. Hopefully, Niitsuma has heard the various remarks relating to TvC, and won't allow such things to happen all over again in MvC3.
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You guys think that if we all believe in it and clap our hands really hard, they'll add Beta Ray Bill, or Nova to the roster?
...dammit Marvel DO NOT SHUN YOUR COSMIC.
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You guys think that if we all believe in it and clap our hands really hard, they'll add Beta Ray Bill, or Nova to the roster?
...dammit Marvel DO NOT SHUN YOUR COSMIC.
I fully agree with adding in Nova. He's more than earned a spot. Also, BLUE BLAZES!
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...But...people hated 2K1 for a lot of things...among them being that final straw that made it so nobody wanted anything more to do with the "Striker" system. >3<
Again, I only said it was possible not that it was a good idea *shrugs*
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From GI:
-"MVC3 aims to knock down the wall of complicated controls and open up the field of strategic fighting to all comers. This means fusing the accessible controls of TVC with tried and true MVC2 gameplay."
-"3 on 3 tag team combat returns, complete with the assists and team building structure of the previous title. Veterans can look forward to alpha, beta, and hyper move cancels."
-simplified = launchers are now universally done with one button, the EXCHANGE button. "That's not all the exchange button can do; by pressing it along with certain directions, players can slam opponents into the ground, leaving them susceptible to combo continuation. Players can also hit the exchange button in midair to tag in other team members on the fly." You can also counter their exchange move by guessing which exchange to hit at the same time, ala, throw countering in tekken.
My gut reaction? "Damn! DAMN! DAMN!!!" [/Florida, Good Times]
This is exactly the kind of thing I was worried about. Trying to map too many things to one button, and marrying "context-sensitive" things on top of that, usually does more to frustrate, rather than "streamline". Hype now lowered to cautious levels. I mean, really...ONE BUTTON LAUNCHERS?! Was it some how too much trouble to press down-forward and Fierce/Hard for some people? C'mon, now Niitsuma! -AC
On the other hand....
http://www.youtube.com/v/VInRyA3JNQY
At least the game content itself looks nice. Oh, and hey, a Servbot stage. Guess it looks like X is getting the shaft again... -u-'
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There better be shortcuts for these things on the shoulder buttons or something.
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I'll be honest, the whole Exchange button thing sounds like "don't know if want" stuff to me too =/
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Now i don't mind TvC controls =/ But i would PREFER to have it be more of an option more then anything, MvC1 did it so why can't the third installment?
Also i'll be happy if Zero is in the game so that X series doesn't get shafted.
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I fully agree with adding in Nova. He's more than earned a spot. Also, BLUE BLAZES!
X-23, Daken and Hulkpool would be pretty sweet.
Posted on: May 08, 2010, 03:17:06 PM
http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2010/may/08/four-new-marvel-vs-capcom-3-characters-confirmed/
DEADPOOL AND IRON MAN CONFIRMED, BAYBEE
Heheheheh, Deadpool hitting people with his own life bar.
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http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2010/may/08/four-new-marvel-vs-capcom-3-characters-confirmed/
DEADPOOL AND IRON MAN CONFIRMED, BAYBEE
Heheheheh, Deadpool hitting people with his own life bar.
Already reported last page, homes. 8D
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Already reported last page, homes. 8D
Damn. Sorry.
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X-23, Daken and Hulkpool would be pretty sweet.
X-23 AND Daken? Don't we have enough Wolvsturbation in the Marvel U already, without bringing it to MvC3? XD
I'd much rather have Nightcrawler or DA FALCON! 8D
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X-23 AND Daken? Don't we have enough Wolvsturbation in the Marvel U already, without bringing it to MvC3? XD
I'd much rather have Nightcrawler or DA FALCON! 8D
I can't imagine Elfy-poo appearing because well...
[spoiler]...he kinda died recently. Wouldn't make too much sense to advertise for a character who prolly won't be back for another year and some change. :'([/spoiler]
Any way...here's a bit more from the GI information, thanks to a guy on FAQs.
--It's just Marvel Vs Capcom, absolutely nothing was said about another party. Random guy on youtube was just spouting bs.
--Sales of Marvel Vs Capcom 2 surpassed their expectations by a whole lot.
--Marvel is at it's "strongest point ever" right now, they decided it was the perfect time to create a game like this.
--Disney did not impact the project positively or negatively in any way.
--Game runs on MT Framework engine that LP2 and RE5 run on.
--From the screens, the game looks VERY VERY VERY comic book-y, it actually looks very different than MvC2 did, most of the colors are very bright, and again, VERY comic-book looking. They basically look exactly the same in gameplay as they did in that trailer. If TvC was eastern anime styled, than MvC3 is western cartoon styled.
--Backgrounds will be lively. J Jonah Jameson is in a helicoptor in the background of the Daily Bugle stage shouting and pointing at the players. There's also a parade in the background that has huge air balloons of characters like Spider-Man and Viewtiful Joe. Servbots and Tron Bonne in the background of the Megaman Legends stage.
--"The flow of combat is just as intense and hectic as MvC 2, and all the hardcore elements remain intact. Three-on-three tag-team combat returns, complete with the assists and team building structure of the previous title. Veterans can look forward to alpha, beta, and gamma assist types, snapbacks, and hyper move cancels. Even if you don't know what a snapback is, you're still going to be able to pull of show-stopping aerial raves, since the team at Capcom is streamlining the process for executing advanced maneuvers."
--They want to maximize depth while minimizing complexity, so that's why they decided on TvsC style light, medium, and hard attacks.
--Uppercut move is further simplified from TvsC, it receives it's OWN button, called the "exchange" button. Now in addition to uppercutting, you can choose the direction you slam them in, and continue the combo (like slamming them into the ground)
--Catch to that is if your opponent presses the same exchange direction as you do in a combo, than they escape your combo and counter with their own. "This exciting rock-paper-scissors element complements the simplification of launching foes into the air, integrating a new fold of strategy for hardcore MvC fans to chew on."
--A sort of cross-over areal rave can be performed, where you can safely change your character in the middle of an air combo, using the exchange button. (I'm assuming this works like tvc but the article doesn't exactly specify)
--Story mode is being slightly improved, with "beginning and ending story bookends, along with in-game events to keep it fresh in players' minds. Producer Ryota Niitsuma insists that though this story is better than in other MvC games, it doesn't steal the spotlight from the action."
--Captain America, Felicia, Deadpool, and Dante confirmed. Though no screen shots are given of these new characters, they do have small bios.
--Cpt. America: "This founding member of the avengers returns with his indestructible shield to deliver combatants to justice. He preserves most of his handy move-set, complete with deadly shield-a-rang tosses and evasive cartwheel maneuvers."
--Felicia: "Capcom's catgirl returns with her claws out to deliver quick and nimble combos to anyone distracted by her jiggle physics for too long. She is also able to summon a helpful little catgirl partner to double her threat."
--Deadpool: "Deadpool has the ability to teleport around the battlefield, but do it too many times and his device will backfire to hilarious results. Even breaking the fourth wall, Deadpool's special consists of beating down opponents with his own life bar."
--Dante: "He may be based on the young Devil May Cry 3 protagonist, but this Dante comes equipped with the best moves from the entire series. He can juggle rival fighters with his dual pistols, close distances by sliding on his knees while playing Nevan (his guitar weapon), and even activate his deadly Devil Trigger mode to increase his speed and power."
--Chris: "This BSAA agent brings over every weapon he can carry from Resident Evil 5 into Marvel vs Capcom 3. Chris devastates opponents with his pistol, shotgun, submachine gun, magnum, satellite laser, and grenade launcher (complete with fire, ice, and electric rounds). He also has a slide attack utilizing his electric baton."
--The Hulk: "Bruce Banner returns in his pissed-off form, and somehow he's even more monstrous than before. This green juggernaut is still sluggish, but his immense power and earth-quaking special make him a good bruiser for your team makeup."
--Wolverine: "Logan's claws ravage everything unfortunate enough to stand before him in brilliant swipes of color. His trademark Berserker Barrage move return as both an assist move and a special, making him a perfect main for your team and also a menacing assist character."
--Morrigan: "Darkstalkers' seductive succubus continues the battle with all her otherworldly moves. She catapults opponents skyward with a gigantic spear summoned from the ground and delivers flying reverse pile drivers."
--Iron Man: "Sleeker and slimmer than MvC 2's Tony Stark, this iteration of Iron Man better reflects his current style in the comics. The gold and maroon superhero's gigantic laser cannon still makes for a great assist, and his jet-boots make him ideal for aerial maneuvers."
--"If you were disappointed that you didn't see certain no-brainer Capcom characters in Tatsunoko vs Capcom for the Wii, don't give up hope. Niitsuma confirmed that big characters like Dante were saved from Tatsunoko for Marvel vs. Capcom 3."
--MvC2's cast recycled 15years of backlog and that's a large reason why it had such a big cast. "The morrigan you saw in 1994's Darkstalkers was basically what you saw in 2000's MvC 2."
--MvC3's characters all started from scratch.
--Capcom is paying a very large attention to detail to make sure all the characters are very in-character and act like themselves.
--GI raved about the graphics for a good paragraph, apparently lighting is superb and iron man's armor has reflections.
--GI seemed very impressed with how Dante was represented in the game. "His cockiness and bravado shines through in every action, doing the white-haired badass justice."
Sorry I don't have a scanner, and my cellphone's camera is absolutely horrible so I can't provide any pics. Also, you should all know that there was a Malboro hidden away in this issue that terrified the hell out of me. Just a warning to anyone who reads it.
Well, that about should do it, in light of no official scans.
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I can't imagine Elfy-poo appearing because well...
[spoiler]...he kinda died recently. Wouldn't make too much sense to advertise for a character who prolly won't be back for another year and some change. :'([/spoiler]
[spoiler]Really? They killed my "tied for 1st with Iceman" favorite Mutant? Sigh...[/spoiler]
Well, on the positive side of MvC3 having TatsuCap controls, I now have much much more of a chance in the game! Yay! 8D
Also, MvC2 had a story besides just wanting to take me for a ride?
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Say, does anyone else almost feel that the CONSTANT Legends cameoing is almost like a slap in the face considering they have NO plans of ever making L3 any time soon?
I mean, I like Legends as much as the next guy, but really...
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Maybe they're trying to generate interest in the series so if they do make a Legends 3 it will sell better than otherwise.
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Also, MvC2 had a story besides just wanting to take me for a ride?
I think it's safe to presume he meant the first 3 Vs. games, which did have something close to a storyline, even if it was the same rather nonsensical stuff that permeates most Capcom fighters.
Still, it did have rather interesting things happen, such as having Nash being turned into "Shadow" and such.
Say, does anyone else almost feel that the CONSTANT Legends cameoing is almost like a slap in the face considering they have NO plans of ever making L3 any time soon?
I mean, I like Legends as much as the next guy, but really...
Please, at this point, I'm just waiting for the day. It's only a matter of time at this point.
If anything, now I'm starting to get annoyed at the DASH love. Especially in light of how "old guard" characters from the franchise like X and Blues have yet to get in a game, while DASH has had a total of 3 characters representing the series in the last 2 entrants' worth of Vs. titles. I get it, Inafune, the DASH series holds a special place in your heart. You don't need to keep REMINDING me of that.
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I think it's safe to presume he meant the first 3 Vs. games, which did have something close to a storyline, even if it was the same rather nonsensical stuff that permeates most Capcom fighters.
Still, it did have rather interesting things happen, such as having Nash being turned into "Shadow" and such.
LoL, if you say so Ben!
Also, there's still a chance that Playable Blues can get in on this game. He's been much more Playable lately, so it's definitely possible! XD
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lol PB. Yeah, that would be cool. He could even have... BLUES PAWNCH!
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Please, at this point, I'm just waiting for the day. It's only a matter of time at this point.
If anything, now I'm starting to get annoyed at the DASH love. Especially in light of how "old guard" characters from the franchise like X and Blues have yet to get in a game, while DASH has had a total of 3 characters representing the series in the last 2 entrants' worth of Vs. titles. I get it, Inafune, the DASH series holds a special place in your heart. You don't need to keep REMINDING me of that.
I didnt say it for fear of certain rage, (remember how legends and fans are!) But This. REALLY. seeing the servbots in MVC3 here actually aggravated me to almost dislike for the series. I like Servbots, theyre cute and look like lego men, but not when they are constantly shoved in every single capcom property. Its like eating too much of something. even if you like it, you eventually get sick of it.
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How did they become Cpapcom's unofficial mascots anyways?
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How did they become Cpapcom's unofficial mascots anyways?
Because Inafune likes legends best. and Fans always clammor for an L3 over any other megaman. its kinda infamous.
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I see. Well then... MAYBE HE SHOULD LISTEN! Instead of teasing us like this for the past 10 years...
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X-23 AND Daken? Don't we have enough Wolvsturbation in the Marvel U already, without bringing it to MvC3? XD
I'd much rather have Nightcrawler or DA FALCON! 8D
Screw Sniktbub. Guy's gotten lame. His offspring are far more interesting than he is. Trollverine alone (Daken) has had an excellent run, far better than his daddy has had in years. And X-23 is pure awesome. I'd even be okay with them being alternate skins.
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Heh Sniktbub.
Yeah i'm pretty much sick of the whole "HAVE A LEGENDS CAMEO" approach recently especially when i wasn't even that much of a Legends fan to begin with.
Enough of that though IT'S DEVIL MAY CRY 3 DANTE YEAH BABY!
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Heh Sniktbub.
Yeah i'm pretty much sick of the whole "HAVE A LEGENDS CAMEO" approach recently especially when i wasn't even that much of a Legends fan to begin with.
Enough of that though IT'S DEVIL MAY CRY 3 DANTE YEAH BABY!
I'd rather have Gene. ;_;
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hand to hand or fist to fist
kicking nuts or twist your wrist
my godhand makes my pimp hand strong
so trust me or you wont last very long
DRAGON KICK YOUR ASS INTO THE MILKY WAY!
DONT ACT LIKE YOU DON'T LIKE THE BALLBUSTER!
I do too ;_;
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I see. Well then... MAYBE HE SHOULD LISTEN! Instead of teasing us like this for the past 10 years...
If we're to believe Inafking, he's not the issue: the heads at Capcom are, because they won't "give him the go-ahead" to do so.
In any case, again, I think that time will soon be coming to an end. At Captivate, Inafune was quoted on how there are like 7 titles that are lying in the wings, with Marvel:FTW not being included in that number. He also said that one title in particular was one that he was excited to be working on.
If it's not this "Mega Man Universe" that we've got a copyright for, then well....it's either that game he's wanted to make for years, or something else that's got his pants tight.
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Ok, so then the controls will be:
L M H
E A1A2
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I'm guessing that they're replacing Megacrashing with being able to get a C-C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER with the exchange button.
Also, I must repeat, this better have an arcade release too >_>
[spoiler]Really? They killed my "tied for 1st with Iceman" favorite Mutant? Sigh...[/spoiler]
[spoiler]Hey, at least be happy that his death was actually quite well done.[/spoiler]
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Screw Sniktbub. Guy's gotten lame. His offspring are far more interesting than he is. Trollverine alone (Daken) has had an excellent run, far better than his daddy has had in years. And X-23 is pure awesome. I'd even be okay with them being alternate skins.
Heh, I'm not the biggest Wolvie fan anyway. At least Daken wears what I consider the proper Wolvie uniform.
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Heh, I'm not the biggest Wolvie fan anyway. At least Daken wears what I consider the proper Wolvie uniform.
He made out with Bullseye. With a smile. I consider that to be friggin' awesome.
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Daken would be an interesting character, provided they make him something separate from either a) Sabretooth and b) "Boney" Wolvie.
He'd certainly make for an interesting character for some one like Morrigan or even Ryu to interact with. 8D
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Heh, beat me to it.
Controls will need to convince me, but at least the game looks damn fine. 0v0
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It sure does!
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0v0 Felicinya~ :cookie:
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Holy mackerel!! Dante's in it!? SWEET!
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(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_vBCSLbKJ7nI/S-iDMmNqhMI/AAAAAAAAE4U/w0go89fvUBU/s1600/MvCMML2.png)
New pic clearly shows Ms. Bonne in the backdrop, cuddling a Kobun/Servbot.
That is all!
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So most likely, she's not coming back. But then again, Balrog is in the background of the airfield stage in SFIV.
And about that mention of characters saved from TatsuCap, that better mean Ingrid and Phoenix are in.
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But if you pick Balrog, Vega is in the plane. If you pick both I hear the game breaks.
Teisel is also in the picture. Bon Bonne isn't. Bon Bonne confirmed for MvC3.
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What's Teisel doing?
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Deadpool?
Dante?
Jesus christ, Must Buy
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What's Teisel doing?
Checking out Chris Redfield's package from the looks of it.
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lol... now I'm wondering what it says on the arch behind them...
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I originally thought it was something like Battle Kiscand but looking at it i swear that it's not a B but a C so Cattle and the K is more of an X and the n kinda looks like an R so... Cattle Xiscard?
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It's more like CattleOX island to me.
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OhgodBerserkerBarrage. ;-;
Well, I can only hope it controls well enough. Since Deadpool's confirmed hilarity is bound to ensue.
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If you guys notice carefully on upper right corner of the second screen with Teisel and Tron, the Bonnes are riding what looks like the Balcon Gerald.
=D
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It's more like CattleOX island to me.
Oh wow i completley missed the "O" in that XD
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Yeah, it says "CATTLEOX ISLAND". It seems to be a re-translation for Kattelox Island.
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Ooh... so if that's a stage, then there's a good chance of a Legends character being playable! Otherwise, why would they have a Legends stage? Surely not just for Tron and Teisel to stand on! ^_^
Yeah, that's definitely the town... look at that house on the left!
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It's likely going to be Trigger again, or who knows? Maybe indeed they'll do like they did in some of Capcom's older games, where a character can appear in a background, but then "disappears" when they're actually on the field of battle themselves. (see: Felicia in Pocket Fighter, Spider-man in MSH vs. SF)
If that be the case, then Tron may not be completely out of the running. Tron was a fun character to play in MvC2, so I wouldn't mind her returning. Plus, if it was her (and not Trigger) would immediately make it possible for any other Rockman to get instead.
ANY WAY. Seth Killian tries to smooth this button config fiasco over...
Hi guys,
Sorry I've been slow on this--being on the road all the time slows this kind of stuff down more than I wish it did, and I really wanted to nip this in the bud before it got blown all out of proportion. Darn you internets! Smile
Here is the bottom line: MVC3's controls are still in development, but it currently has 4 attack buttons, and two assist buttons. If you want the take-away, you can stop reading now because that's the bottom line.
The excitement has all come from the way those buttons are labeled--specifically because one of the attack buttons has a new name. Why does it get its own name? Because:
a) coming up with exciting new names for stuff is what marketing departments do (was "Aerial Rave" a reason to worry about what we used to just call "air combos"?).
b) it does some fun new stuff in some circumstances, but in many ways that stuff is not different than command normals in MVC2. It does stuff like launching (also a normal move in MVC2), causing OTG-able flying screen (normal in MVC2), and some other interesting effects (not as much like MVC2, but a pretty natural evolution).
I understand people's concerns and that even the hint of a change can cause people to go to red alert and divert all power to forward deflector shields. We know MVC2 is serious business, and a very special game. Part of the reason we know that is because we made it, and there are key people from MVC2 on MVC3. We've worked for years to make this game a reality, and so we take it very seriously. The objective is not to "dumb down" a thing, but there are ways to go new places without also giving new players the finger. We have high hopes--you should too. It's easy to get worked up and complain in the absence of a lot of hard info, and there will be plenty of time for that, but I hope we can agree that stuff should come after people have actually played the game and seen it in action.
The good news on that front is that--just like SFIV--we're not hiding this away, and want to get it out and into your hands as early and as often as we can.
best,
Seth
Still not exactly feeling it, but at least knowing there are two separate assist buttons means they're not COMPLETELY insane, and tried to map two assists to one button.
Edit: Famitsu actually has a few more pics to share.
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Seth is a cool guy. Got to talk to him for a bit at Penny Arcade.
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I'm pretty positive about this so far. I'll trust their judgment for now, and see how it is when they demo it or something. I'm a fan of JoJo/MeltyBlood/TatsuCap controls, so it may not be a biggie for me, but I know things changing could go south. I'll keep an open mind for the moment.
Speaking of which, I wish they had a JoJo sequel. There is so much to draw from in that series, so a whole sequel set would be very possible. Man I love that game. The stand system was so cool. I only got to play it because CPS3 got emulated. I suppose it's been on Dreamcast though, and PS1 to a lesser degree.
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Speaking of which, I wish they had a JoJo sequel. There is so much to draw from in that series, so a whole sequel set would be very possible. Man I love that game. The stand system was so cool. I only got to play it because CPS3 got emulated. I suppose it's been on Dreamcast though, and PS1 to a lesser degree.
That really, really needs to be made. If they give GER to Giorno he'd be god tier though.
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Yeah. Would probably be something like Dio's time stop eating a super bar every 2 seconds.
Imagine Father Pucci though. Max super; "Alternate Dimension Timeline" instant KO/victory? >_>
JoJo is so awesome. I have to start reading Steel Ball Run. I finished Stone Ocean a little while back.
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Jojo's Bizarre Adventure is a game dear to me, and honestly a game that stands up there with MvC2 and Vampire Savior in being among THE most complicated fighting games Capcom has ever made.
So, that said? I dunno if I would want to trust Ono or Nitsuma would such a game.
If I had it my way, such a game would be given to the likes of ARIKA and Craft & Meister, both of which are filled with Ex-Capcom employees. Hell, Noritaka Funamizu (who's reportedly at C&M) was the one who was directly responsible for games like Jojo, the Vampires, the Street Fighter Alphas, and every Marvel vs. game except MvC2. Hell, even Super DBZ was, in my opinion, a much better game than any of the Budokais and Tenkaichis.
If his team could get the funding, I'd like to think that Jojo/Steel Ball Run game could definitely be made by C&M/Arika. But who knows if such a thing will happen...
Imagine Father Pucci though. Max super; "Alternate Dimension Timeline" instant KO/victory? >_>
JoJo is so awesome. I have to start reading Steel Ball Run. I finished Stone Ocean a little while back.
Yes, you do. In fact, if you did....
*DON'T READ IF YOU DON'T WANT SPOILERS FOR THE MANGA. SERIOUSLY!*
[spoiler]You'd know that the President is probably the one guy who probably has the most insane ability yet. Being able to basically swap places with himself from another timeline, by going in between "literal" spaces. Araki is a genius. Only he could make such off the wall abilities like this.[/spoiler]
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Yeah, that sounds quite crazy, and at least it's not hard to understand unlike [tornado fang]ing King Crimson which I still have no idea how the hell it really works ¬__¬
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For a second there I thought you were talking about the band...
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Direct feed pics are here. You can clearly see the entirety of "The Bonne Bunch" in the backdrop of that stage, now. 8D
(http://fast1.onesite.com/capcom-unity.com/user/s-kill/large/0c5d49aa97ac6ed01bc021c994bcb59b.jpg?v=202200)
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Now, my thoughts?
Well, while it does look nice, it's not quite what I would have wanted for a "comic-book art style", certainly. It's doesn't go for the "gritty" that could describe Marvel, or even the "anime" style that Capcom had in the previous Marvel-style games. It just looks like....HD TvC with Marvel characters. -u-'
Ah well, hopefully it will look better in motion. And hey, "PROTON CANNON!!!!" confirmed. 8D
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BERT COME FIX MY GARAGE
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BERT COME FIX MY GARAGE
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PUT ON PANTS!!!
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He should totally prop up the Proton Cannon with Cap's shield! XD
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Something feels off about the Proton Cannon, I dunno...prop it up with Cap's shield as PB says, that should fix it XD
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I remember the Proton Cannon's sprite being abused by many spriters very well. 8D
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Who do you guys think will be Cap? Steve or Bucky?
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My guess is Steve.
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My guess is Steve.
But isn't Marvel trying to push forward their new Marvel canon? I think they might want Buckycap.
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It's possible, but will BuckyCap have the same moves?
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If there is no Final Justice, I will be PISSED.
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It's possible, but will BuckyCap have the same moves?
Most probably. Plus "GUN!".
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But isn't Marvel trying to push forward their new Marvel canon? I think they might want Buckycap.
While Marvel will likely have plenty of say in the roster on their side, and likely will push their canon to some degree, there are still some things to consider.
As always is the case, the Marvel vs. Capcom games, as well as the characters and plotlines that may exist, are something unto themselves. Not only in respect to what fans will be expecting from the series, but in light of how the games can afford to take some liberties, because Marvel can't expect people who just want to play this damn game to keep up with their canon from the last decade, and may be more likely to know of Marvel's heroes through the movies and "Super Hero Squad". Much less people like me who did more to drop off years ago, and only pop in occasionally for good TPB material like Cable/Deadpool and Planet/WW Hulk. 8D
So, I'm thinking? Canon-pushing will likely get some nods, but will be minimalized for the sake of that casual Marvel crowd I posed above. I mean, it may be obvious that certain characters like Carnage and others may not get in (because, well...they're kinda dead, and some haven't been relevant in over a decade any way). But if came down to it, if ANY version of Venom were to get into the game, it would likely be something closer to the familiar, "WE WILL EAT YOUR BRAIN~!" Brock-Venom that people know and love the most (and still gets marketed through Super Hero Squad-inspired toylines and the like).
At best, comic book geeks will get their nods likely through the form of some newer characters introduced in the last few years, and characters possibly getting "skins" that reflect recent developments in the story line (Anti Venom and Red Hulk are easy examples of this, I think). But Marvel does have to remember that, again, this game isn't explicitly for comic book geeks, just as much as Capcom has made it clear that this game isn't merely for fans of previous Marvel-style fighters. 8D
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I don´t read comics so I have no clue about the Marvel canon
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I don´t read comics so I have no clue about the Marvel canon
See? You're exactly the type of end-user I'm talking about! You're probably interested in this game, certainly, but do you know and/or care about what's going on now? The answer is no.
So therefore, Marvel has to realize that there are plenty of potential buyers who don't know and more likely don't care. More likely, this is going to be marketed as yet another separate product until itself. Not unlike the movies, cartoons and toylines that are out there...
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I would certainly hope they use Brock-Venom, because I'm not a fan of Gargan-Venom.
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See? You're exactly the type of end-user I'm talking about! You're probably interested in this game, certainly, but do you know and/or care about what's going on now? The answer is no.
So therefore, Marvel has to realize that there are plenty of potential buyers who don't know and more likely don't care. More likely, this is going to be marketed as yet another separate product until itself. Not unlike the movies, cartoons and toylines that are out there...
Yeah, but Marvel is also gearing for some sort of acceptance into the new Heroic Age system. Since they pretty much rebooted everything, I'm thinking they should probably push forward the new status quo as the absolute one, I guess. For people to see it as the new default one.
I would certainly hope they use Brock-Venom, because I'm not a fan of Gargan-Venom.
Current Anti-Venom, then.
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Current Anti-Venom, then.
Ehhhhhhhh......I suppose so.
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Ehhhhhhhh......I suppose so.
(tries to find that one page where a stereotypical gang member goes "[parasitic bomb] boy, that's White Venom!")
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Yeah, but Marvel is also gearing for some sort of acceptance into the new Heroic Age system. Since they pretty much rebooted everything, I'm thinking they should probably push forward the new status quo as the absolute one, I guess. For people to see it as the new default one.
Only thing that goes away from that notion is that there are movies, direct-to-DVD features and other cartoons out there. All of which, are different yet viable means for people to come to know and love Marvel's properties. Comic books, comparably speaking, are definitely on the lower end of the spectrum. So, when it comes to it, if you were the marketing team, who should you be trying to cater to the most? The general public who is more likely to remember/know about the movies and toons, or the comic book fan minority? The answer should be clear.
This is a different era from during the original Capcom-Marvel game run, where the only sources that were out and about were the 90s cartoons and comic books. Onslaught was able to slide right into MvC, because well, the comic books were the only other viable means to pull stuff from beyond the cartoons. Now, we've got a slew of different sources for people to know and love Marvel. Why alienate any one of them, when you could use a game like this as a nice means of attaining a "common ground"?
I mean, even on the Capcom side, they seem prone to doing the same thing. Dante is reportedly going to be based more on his DMC3 design, more than anything else, and it likely has completely to do with the fact that DMC3 was a fondly remembered and well-loved game (which is a bit more than what can be said for DMC4). If Capcom is up to doing likewise on their side, for the sake of fanservice, surely, Marvel will see the wisdom in doing likewise for what should be brain-dead easy things like Brock-Venom and Rogers-America.
Current Anti-Venom, then.
No problem with that, as like I said, the comic book fans can get their love through maybe the likes of skins that can be unlocked, or at worse, DLC content.
I mean, if they want to go for things like that, then surely they could things like Spider-man a Noir costume that doesn't change the character, but is a nice bit of a fanservice all the same. And that's the most that we should expect.
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I think alternate costumes are the way to go. Again, especially if they put in Firestar like they're going to since I've deemed it so. I always liked both of Firestar's costumes, but I'd probably go with her New Warriors outfit.
But yeah, that way you could have the BuckyCap outfit, Symby Spidey, and so on.
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Only thing that goes away from that notion is that there are movies, direct-to-DVD features and other cartoons out there. All of which, are different yet viable means for people to come to know and love Marvel's properties. Comic books, comparably speaking, are definitely on the lower end of the spectrum. So, when it comes to it, if you were the marketing team, who should you be trying to cater to the most? The general public who is more likely to remember/know about the movies and toons, or the comic book fan minority? The answer should be clear.
This is a different era from during the original Capcom-Marvel game run, where the only sources that were out and about were the 90s cartoons and comic books. Onslaught was able to slide right into MvC, because well, the comic books were the only other viable means to pull stuff from beyond the cartoons. Now, we've got a slew of different sources for people to know and love Marvel. Why alienate any one of them, when you could use a game like this as a nice means of attaining a "common ground"?
I mean, even on the Capcom side, they seem prone to doing the same thing. Dante is reportedly going to be based more on his DMC3 design, more than anything else, and it likely has completely to do with the fact that DMC3 was a fondly remembered and well-loved game (which is a bit more than what can be said for DMC4). If Capcom is up to doing likewise on their side, for the sake of fanservice, surely, Marvel will see the wisdom in doing likewise for what should be brain-dead easy things like Brock-Venom and Rogers-America.
No problem with that, as like I said, the comic book fans can get their love through maybe the likes of skins that can be unlocked, or at worse, DLC content.
I mean, if they want to go for things like that, then surely they could things like Spider-man a Noir costume that doesn't change the character, but is a nice bit of a fanservice all the same. And that's the most that we should expect.
All that's good and well, but Gargan and Bucky are actually being accepted really well into their new roles. Fans keep saying they like the new characters, it gives a whole new evolution the their legacy, and it allows for a whole new status quo, which is something really hard, seeing as no matter how many world-changing events there are, normally, comics always go back to the same reset button. So, yeah. I say Buckycap and Gargan are in.
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GOOD NEWS EVERYONE:
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GOOD NEWS EVERYONE:
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Nearly a year from now then. Hope that translates into pure quality.
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Holy [parasitic bomb], Dormmamu!
I sure [tornado fang]ing hope this game will be better than the last two.
(not saying they were bad, but in my opinion... they were kinda meh).
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Holy [parasitic bomb], Dormmamu!
I sure [tornado fang]ing hope this game will be better than the last two.
(not saying they were bad, but in my opinion... they were kinda meh).
It'll most probably emulate the style of SF4 and TvsC. Dunno if you liked those or not.
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It'll most probably emulate the style of SF4 and TvsC. Dunno if you liked those or not.
Never played them.
No one around me has them.
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Never played them.
No one around me has them.
No way to get them yourself?
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No way to get them yourself?
I don't own any current gen consoles(or any consoles right now, for that matter), if anything... I usually leech of my cousin or certain other people.
Yes, it's lame.
I'm saving up tough, so I can finally buy myself one.
I'm considering Wii and/or PSP.
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I don't own any current gen consoles(or any consoles right now, for that matter), if anything... I usually leech of my cousin or certain other people.
Yes, it's lame.
I'm saving up tough, so I can finally buy myself one.
I'm considering Wii and/or PSP.
Depends on your game tastes. Wii's good for tiny few specs of light in a sea of shovelware. PSP's good for those games that take huge time to get anywhere in and to which you get needlessly addicted to.
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Both of the consoles are easy to hack too. ^^b
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Both of the consoles are easy to hack too. ^^b
It's what i got MY wii for owob
...Well that and Mario Kart >_>
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Both of the consoles are easy to hack too. ^^b
I love never having to buy anything unless to support the companies directly for specially good games.
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Nothing all that new, but here you go (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2010-marvel-vs/101063).
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Nice to see Deadpool at least! XD
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Nothing all that new, but here you go (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2010-marvel-vs/101063).
Never really thought about it, but... wow. Deadpool and Dante are pretty much evenly matched. Blades and guns, always with pointy stuff stuck in them through battles, cracking constant jokes...
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Never really thought about it, but... wow. Deadpool and Dante are pretty much evenly matched. Blades and guns, always with pointy stuff stuck in them through battles, cracking constant jokes...
Yup... now all we need is Dante to break the fourth wall 8D
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Yup... now all we need is Dante to break the fourth wall 8D
Hasn't he already? I mean... the theater scene from DMC4 is pretty much a given.
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While not much in the way of new, this teaser was nice to see.
Any way, I'm REALLY hoping that's Phoenix (Jean) being teased at the end. She's pretty much the main one I could see being truly "Boss" material, and yet has the long-reaching appeal that goes beyond just current comic book fans; something that the likes of Sentry doesn't have. 8D
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While not much in the way of new, this teaser was nice to see.
Any way, I'm REALLY hoping that's Phoenix (Jean) being teased at the end. She's pretty much the main one I could see being truly "Boss" material, and yet has the long-reaching appeal that goes beyond just current comic book fans; something that the likes of Sentry doesn't have. 8D
Only took a SHIELD Helicarrier to stop Sentry...
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Only took a SHIELD Helicarrier to stop Sentry...
Jesus Christ, that was one of the dumbest endings I've ever seen. If it worked like that, SHIELD could conquer the universe with Helicarrier bullets. They could take down the Hulk, Galactus, Thanos... Just by throwing many Helicarrier bullets at them. I mean, it's not like the Sentry can bend the Earth in two with a pinky finger. Dude gets defeated by the equivalent of what a paperbut would be for him.
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Marvel vs. Capcom 3 gameplay videos, screens and logo (http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2010/jun/15/marvel-vs-capcom-3-gameplay-video/)
Even more Marvel vs. Capcom 3 gameplay videos (http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2010/jun/15/even-more-marvel-vs-capcom-3-gameplay-videos/)
There's some Felicia love too nya~ :3
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The only reason i'm getting this is because
1.We know there is Deadpool
2.Megaman Characters are in it,we don't know who
3.Ryu's Ultra Hadouken...man that's Powerful.
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http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/1236327_1124.html
Famitsu confirms that the ALL capcom characters will get Japanese voices, even Dante and Chris who's games never had them to begin with.
as far as I hear, Toshiyuki Morikawa is reprising his role from the DMC anime.
Any way, I'm REALLY hoping that's Phoenix (Jean) being teased at the end.
That's Dormammu.
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Famitsu confirms that the ALL capcom characters will get Japanese voices,
The question is, will the VA be exclusive to the region or will it be selectable?
Also, what was up with Deadpool and Cap canceling an hyper combo into another hyper combo?
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It's capcom. Them and Sega are practically 2 of the only major companies that try to always include the JPN voice tracks because they know there are elitists who'd buy the game just for that.
And cross cancelling just to get in more damage I assume. If you have the gauges might as well use it. Though with the Dante, Felicia, Chris tripple attack, Felicia was completely useless there.
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Oh jesus christ the Hulk is already annoying the [parasitic bomb] out of me ¬_¬ I don't mind english voices for MvC games at the least but i hope i can at least switch his voice, it's feckin annoying.
"YOU PUSHED THE WRONG BUTTON!" made me laugh.
And of course... Dante's Japanse VA, considering he's supposed to be playing DMC3 Dante sounds... wrong. Not BAD but... wrong.
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The design seemed to had been merged with the other Dante's. The outfit and weapons load out is of DMC3 Dante, but his actual physical body, especially his face is closer to DMC1/4 Dante.
And even with the JPN tracks, only Capcom characters are getting them, not Marvel. The most annoying voice is definitely Ironman though.
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The most annoying voice is definitely Ironman though.
Then they're doing it RIGHT. Tony Stark is supposed to be hated and annoying, and then go "haters gonna ha~te 8D" On people.
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I too liked Tony's voice for that reason.
That and when he says "Here comes the big one!" i can always just reply with
(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n254/faustus777/TheOffice-ThatsWhatSheSaid-Michael.jpg)
Granted i'll feel very unclean for doing so but i'm sure Tony would say the same thing.
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The alleged full cast list has supposedly been revealed again due to shitty coding on the japanese site. Just like TvsC
http://www.oxm.co.uk/article.php?id=20377 (http://www.oxm.co.uk/article.php?id=20377)
Capcom: Ryu, Mike Haggar, Frank West, Chuck (alternate Frank West outfit), Spencer (Bionic Commando), Dante, Chris, Morrigan, Arthur, Amaterasu , Albert Wesker, Zero, Chun-li, Viewtiful Joe, Trish, Tron Bonne, Hsien-Ko, Akuma, Felicia
Marvel: Spider-Man, Hulk, Wolverine, Mr Fantastic, Captain America, Iron Man, War Machine (alternate Iron Man outfit) Elektra, Thor, X-23, Magneto, Dr Doom, Shuma-Gorath, Emma Frost, Deadpool, Super Skrull, Taskmaster, Juggernaut, She-Hulk
If this is legit, than Ahahah, every single "never going to happen" character I said would be in made it. Jawesome.
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The alleged full cast list has supposedly been revealed again due to shitty coding on the japanese site. Just like TvsC
http://www.oxm.co.uk/article.php?id=20377 (http://www.oxm.co.uk/article.php?id=20377)
Capcom: Ryu, Mike Haggar, Frank West, Chuck (alternate Frank West outfit), Spencer (Bionic Commando), Dante, Chris, Morrigan, Arthur, Amaterasu , Albert Wesker, Zero, Chun-li, Viewtiful Joe, Trish, Tron Bonne, Hsien-Ko, Akuma, Felicia
Marvel: Spider-Man, Hulk, Wolverine, Mr Fantastic, Captain America, Iron Man, War Machine (alternate Iron Man outfit) Elektra, Thor, X-23, Magneto, Dr Doom, Shuma-Gorath, Emma Frost, Deadpool, Super Skrull, Taskmaster, Juggernaut, She-Hulk
If this is legit, than Ahahah, every single "never going to happen" character I said would be in made it. Jawesome.
...no Star-Lord.
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No Mega Man Trigger? :(
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LoL, Emma Frost? I suppose the game needed more tits!
Also, no Nova makes me kinda sad!
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No Mega Man Trigger? :(
There seems to be another list now actually.
http://www.xugogaming.com/article/393/marvel_vs_capcom_3_roster_leaked
ryu
chun
bison
volnutt
roll
zero
chris
wesker
dante
trish
morrigan
felicia
joe
frank
frankalt_chuck
mike
arthur
wolverine
storm
cyclops
magneto
spider
venom
hulk
iron
ironalt_war
america
thor
doom
skrull
strange
dormammu
deadpool
marvel
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XD Arthur! I just found my main~ <3
And I guess it's the same Rockman character models from TatsuCap or similar. ^^;
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[tornado fang] YES! ARTHUR.
Okay MvC3 is day one purchase for me owo
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The 2nd list is probably the legit one because Tron isn't on it. We already know Tron is a background character on Kattalox Island standing/sitting next to Teasle on the mech.
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VOLNUTT!!!! YESSS!!!
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dante
trish
There will never be playable Lady will there ; ;
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There will never be playable Lady will there ; ;
...funny how they know nobody likes Nero. 8D
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XD Arthur! I just found my main~ <3
And I guess it's the same Rockman character models from TatsuCap or similar. ^^;
Used as a basis at most. they confirmed that 3 was going to be created 100% from the ground up. I'm curious to see how ZERO turns out since for the most part, he and Dante are pretty much BROS from different universes. Only ones a troubled alcoholic with a demonic father, and the other hunts demons.
And after realizing it I'm now bummed at Roll. When I saw her name after Volnutt, I assumed DASH Roll. =/
...funny how they know nobody likes Nero. lolwut
Direct Son of Sparda >>>>> What ever the hell Nero was. (far, far ,faaaarrrr Distant Relative of Sparda)
DMC4 spoke enough for itself. Basic Dante > Devil Triggered Nero
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I'm taking this with a big grain of salt. Some of those things are just too good to be true. Mostly Haggar.
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Forgetting the whole thing relating to characters at the moment...one thing that has immediately caught my attention is how "Back+Asst" is once again used in order to Tag people in and out. This is practically going into "deal breaker" territory right here, because this is one of the things from TvC I, and many others, just could not STAND.
Main reason being is that such a thing makes it so it's impossible to call out Assists while blocking. Therefore, if you're really locked down from an opponent's rush down, you have even LESS options to work with in order to fight back. This is something that Casual and Competitive Players alike will not find favor in.
For this game's sake, I hope they seriously consider the wisdom of the more reasonable individuals at capcom-unity and SRK. Make it a two button thing, like in past games. People who play on Pad will just be able to map it to the shoulder buttons and keep it moving. But almost ANYTHING stands to be better than this bit of [parasitic bomb]...
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Direct Son of Sparda >>>>> What ever the hell Nero was. (far, far ,faaaarrrr Distant Relative of Sparda)
DMC4 spoke enough for itself. Basic Dante > Devil Triggered Nero
Not just that, they kinda mocked us by giving us a better character, better gameplay, better styles, and a game's worth of new weapons in a few tiny inverted recycled levels...
...and still, we play most of the game with the retarded brother. It's just not fair.
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At most, Dante is Nero's great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great Uncle.
Assuming the legend of Sparda being the leader of the city is true, which probably is since Nero is confirmed to be a descendant. Just not a direct one.
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At most, Dante is Nero's great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great Uncle.
Assuming the legend of Sparda being the leader of the city is true, which probably is since Nero is confirmed to be a descendant. Just not a direct one.
Wasn't there a story about Nero having an accident involving the transport of Yamato a few days before the beginning of the game? I thought that was how he got the arm, and became half-demon.
I might be mistaken.
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The 2nd list is probably the legit one because Tron isn't on it. We already know Tron is a background character on Kattalox Island standing/sitting next to Teasle on the mech.
If I'm not wrong Spiderman is also a background character again (that super-jumping photographer in the NYC stage HAS to be Peter Parker) and you don't see him getting left out of the game.
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IIRC, That simply awakened the dormant demon blood within him. Similar to how Dante did when Rebellion activated. Only difference is that since Dante's Sparda's son, he's naturally far stronger than Nero.
If you go back through all the games, aside from the Mundus battle, and his awakening in DMC3, Dante practically never actually Devil Triggers within canon. (which is why people bitched about the anime)
The closest thing to it that ever happened in 4 was a slight resonance with Nero when their arms touched. But that was it. Even on Dante must Die mode against the AI Dante, he used all his weapons, styles, and move sets but didn't DT.
If I'm not wrong Spiderman is also a background character again (that super-jumping photographer in the NYC stage HAS to be Peter Parker) and you don't see him getting left out of the game.
There's 2 doing that. Both of them wearing suits which Parker doesn't do, and also one of them is short and fat.
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Even if that really isn't him, need I remind you that he was a background character already in a previous VS game? There's nothing preventing Capcom from just removing the character from the BG when it's in play.
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IIRC, That simply awakened the dormant demon blood within him. Similar to how Dante did when Rebellion activated. Only difference is that since Dante's Sparda's son, he's naturally far stronger than Nero.
If you go back through all the games, aside from the Mundus battle, and his awakening in DMC3, Dante practically never actually Devil Triggers within canon. (which is why people bitched about the anime)
The closest thing to it that ever happened in 4 was a slight resonance with Nero when their arms touched. But that was it. Even on Dante must Die mode against the AI Dante, he used all his weapons, styles, and move sets but didn't DT.
Hm, I see. That makes sense.
Even if that really isn't him, need I remind you that he was a background character already in a previous VS game? There's nothing preventing Capcom from just removing the character from the BG when it's in play.
...except from the fact that Capcom doesn't currently have the license for the character, Activision does. So they can't do games with him.
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I wasn't talking about Spiderman specifically, besides, yes they can (and he's already in), otherwise they wouldn't be able to use Iron Man since SEGA has the license for it too.
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Sega has the license for the Ironman Movies to make the games, not the Ironman IP.
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...except from the fact that Capcom doesn't currently have the license for the character, Activision does. So they can't do games with him.
It was already confirmed a while ago that no such problems exist for Capcom to make MvC games using any of the characters Marvel wants them to use, even as other parties are making games starring those characters. Separate license deals and all that.
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Sega has the license for the Ironman Movies to make the games, not the Ironman IP.
Eh, it was just what first came to my mind. Also, what Ben said.
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More or less. They can use the characters, but not the direct stories of say the movies. though RDJ Ironman would have been awesome.
In all of this, I'm not surprised that War Machine is in as an alt, but definitely surprised that chuck is.
And there's also the part were it could just be that Capcom doesn't WANT to use Spider man and Tron anymore.
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And there's also the part were it could just be that Capcom doesn't WANT to use Spider man and Tron anymore.
Tron would be one thing. But...Spidey? Capcom, being a Japanese company, knows that Spidey is just as popular and relevant in Japan as he is else where in the world. There's no real reason for them to NOT use such an "easy peasy" pick.
And let's not forget that Marvel has much more say in who they want this time around than yesteryear. Niitsuma said in previous interviews that Capcom initially came to Marvel with who they would like to use, and then Marvel turned around and said "Alright. Now we'd like to change that around, and use this guy...etc". That's pretty much how Super Skrull got the nod over any of the FF. Niitsuma wanted some one like say, Mr. Fantastic, but Marvel turned around and said "Hey, why not use this guy instead...?".
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There was a bad Spider-Man show in Japan back in the 70s or 80s... interesting idea they had, but typical GIANT BATTLES and such.
And he was from Planet Spider or something. It was an odd take on the series.
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It was already confirmed a while ago that no such problems exist for Capcom to make MvC games using any of the characters Marvel wants them to use, even as other parties are making games starring those characters. Separate license deals and all that.
Didn't hear that. My bad.
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There was a bad Spider-Man show in Japan back in the 70s or 80s... interesting idea they had, but typical GIANT BATTLES and such.
And he was from Planet Spider or something. It was an odd take on the series.
Ah, yes. Tokusatsu-style Spiderman. 8D
Even so, Japan got the same 90s Xmen and Spidey toons that we did over here, fully dubbed over in Japanese, no less. And then of course, they got the recent movie trilogy. So, of course, Japan has as much reason to love Spidey as everyone else does.
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Because he's TOO well known and over used. Marvel this time seemed to have gone with popular characters that aren't too well known outside the comic fanbsae. Such as Deadpool, Skrull, etc. That are especially aren't too well known in Japan.
There's also them trying characters that go well together. Such as Dante and Deadpoll, Ironman and ZERO, or Dr.Doom and Wesker. (THEY'RE BROS)
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Because he's TOO well known and over used. Marvel this time seemed to have gone with popular characters that aren't too well known outside the comic fanbsae. Such as Deadpool, Skrull, etc. That are especially aren't too well known in Japan.
There's also them trying characters that go well together. Such as Dante and Deadpoll, Ironman and ZERO, or Dr.Doom and Wesker. (THEY'RE BROS)
They're trying to make Deadpool famous. He's already in 6 ongoing titles per month, if you even see any kind of comic book cover nowadays, it's got him in it. He's getting pretty damn popular, and they're giving him his own movie.
...Marvel's trying to make a select number of characters more known. War Machine, Skrull...
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Because he's TOO well known and over used. Marvel this time seemed to have gone with popular characters that aren't too well known outside the comic fanbsae. Such as Deadpool, Skrull, etc. That are especially aren't too well known in Japan.
Well, he IS Spider-Man. Last I checked he was in the top 3 most popular comic characters of all time with Supes & Bats. Plus, he's Spider-Man. If he WASN'T in this game, I'd actually be really upset, cause I needs me my Maximum Spider blocked into Final Justice!
It's just the proper way of things! XD
Also, Wolverine is still Marvel's #1 Whore.
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Well, he IS Spider-Man. Last I checked he was in the top 3 most popular comic characters of all time with Supes & Bats. Plus, he's Spider-Man. If he WASN'T in this game, I'd actually be really upset, cause I needs me my Maximum Spider blocked into Final Justice!
It's just the proper way of things! XD
Also, Wolverine is still Marvel's #1 Whore.
He's been for a long, loooooong time. =P I mean, it's hard to find a team he ISN'T in. XD
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He's been for a long, loooooong time. =P I mean, it's hard to find a team he ISN'T in. XD
Exactly my point. Captain Snikt is in EVERYTHING!
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Exactly my point. Captain Snikt is in EVERYTHING!
And they're already trying to turn Deadpool into Sniktbub by giving him six ongoings. =P
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Yeaaaaah, I'm worried about them whoring out Deadpool as well.
HEY, DID YOU HEAR BLUE BEETLE'S GETTING HIS OWN LIVE ACTION SHOW? 8)
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Yeaaaaah, I'm worried about them whoring out Deadpool as well.
HEY, DID YOU HEAR BLUE BEETLE'S GETTING HIS OWN LIVE ACTION SHOW? 8)
YES. Now let's just hope they don't turn it into a kiddy show, or a teen emo show. I'm hoping for something upbeat, and perhaps a little bit corny. =P
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YES. Now let's just hope they don't turn it into a kiddy show, or a teen emo show. I'm hoping for something upbeat, and perhaps a little bit corny. =P
Less like Smallville and more Supernatural then! XD
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Less like Smallville and more Supernatural then! XD
Exactly. And hopefully not in the Smallville universe... CLARK STILL DOESN'T FLY DAMMIT. And he's already met friggin' HAWKMAN already.
Anyway, I'd like a silly, yet serious affair. The Scarab costume shouldn't be too hard to make cool, and Jaime's awesome, so...
...but I still would retcon half my comic collection just for a Ted and Michael sitcom. There's the Blue Beetle show I want. =P
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Anyway, I'd like a silly, yet serious affair. The Scarab costume shouldn't be too hard to make cool, and Jaime's awesome, so...
Here, I posted pics in this thread. (http://forum.rockmanpm.com/index.php?topic=3538.msg253679#msg253679)
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...funny how they know nobody likes Nero. 8D
...I did v_v
zero, wesker, doom
Hurray! I approve of these guys and all the oth-
volnutt
DAMMIT.
The worst character in TvC gets ported. Wonderful.
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You know, just because he was in TvC doesn't mean he'll play EXACTLY THE SAME with the EXACT SAME MOVES in this.
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I don't care if he has the same moves or not it was his accessibility which, let's face it, made him pathetic. Megaman in MvC had multiple weapon shifts but they were easy as hell to use and didn't mean your opponent knew what you were up to.
If he has different moves that's fine but he needs to have his command list reworked from ground up or if they're going to ditch the original Megaman in favour of Volnutt then at least have the decency to just give him a modified moveset from Megaman himself.
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It's being built from the ground up so it'll probably be a new move set for him and ZERO.
On a side note, I hope they get DC Douglas to voice wesker again.
As far english VA's go, He's god tier.
[youtube]eMUVFctJ2Xw[/youtube]
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DAMMIT.
The worst character in TvC gets ported. Wonderful.
I don't think I've read something more factually wrong about TvC. *Does this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saUN-25sHmU) to Rayl*
Volnutt's weapon switching is what makes him great and gives him TONS of comboability, just because he's not easy to use it doesn't make him a bad character, in the right hands he's [tornado fang]ing deadly and certainly in the higher parts of the tier list.
It's being built from the ground up so it'll probably be a new move set for him and ZERO.
If they already have a moveset they'll reuse it, this being a new game means nothing.
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I don't think I've read something more factually wrong about TvC. *Does this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saUN-25sHmU) to Rayl*
Impressive as that is, i still feel he's just a terrible character in comparison to MvC Megaman. That isn't me simply being stubborn or ignorant of the facts, i just cannot stand the way his moveset works.
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If they already have a moveset they'll reuse it, this being a new game means nothing.
Exactly. The in-game character models are definitely all new. The actual ANIMATION DATA for the majority of the Capcom side, however? Straight ripped from TvC.
And speaking of ripped from TvC, a Gaffer reports on his impressions on the game:
Just got home from E3. Had around 3 hours or so with MVC3 in total. Quick summary. It's not similar to MVC2. Assists come out much slower, characters are more floaty, and the damage needs to be increased cause 90% of games end with a Times Up. It's based off the TVC fighting engine...so if you like TVC you will LOVE MVC3. Took me some time to get adjusted, then I won a little mini tournament in front of this big audience doing some of the fancy [parasitic bomb] in the game. Was quite fun. Game is pretty mash friendly, the inputs are VERY lenient. My favorite team thus-far is Cpt America, Iron Man and Ryu. Morrigan is crazy good and Dante is easymode too.
Ask me anything about MVC3. Vids coming.
Hype really starting to deflate here. "TvC HD" with Marvel this time, it is. -u-'
Any way, here are some more vids.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dmEOfA1Nig
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVKPNer2cl4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pUGaxg0fm0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5h4bXXNUts
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Heh, well since TatsuCap is the only one I stand a chance in, I'm happy! XD
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Heh, well since TatsuCap is the only one I stand a chance in, I'm happy! XD
I guess my main thing is that I'm disappointed in one main venues:
Niitsuma, even though he was given the chance to make a decidedly different game, did more to basically just "expand" on what he did in TvC. TvC was TvC. I came into MvC3, expecting something overtly closer to the "Marvel" way of doing things, even if it "borrowed" some things from TvC. I mean, when I think about how Funamizu was able to be the Director/Producer responsible for so many different types of Fighting Games, ranging from the SF:Alphas to the Marvel games to Darkstalkers to Jojo (<3), it disappoints me that these new guys like Niitsuma just seem to give off the aura of "one trick pony" who knows only how to construct one type of game style.
True that we're still over a year away, but still...might have to be changing my tag and avatar soon.
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Awwwwwwww, but I was looking forward to playing you online, Ben! :'(
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I'll prolly still get the game, but it will be like how many of my friends deal with SF4 and Super. They all dislike SSF4, but get it for the sake of "staying in the game", rather than because they like playing it that much. 8D
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I Hope Megaman Characters are in it...not only that i'm Frankly Getting Sick of Playing MvC2,SFIV,& SSFIV
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I'll prolly still get the game, but it will be like how many of my friends deal with SF4 and Super. They all dislike SSF4, but get it for the sake of "staying in the game", rather than because they like playing it that much. 8D
What's wrong with SSF4?
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What's wrong with SSF4?
My guess is that it's still not as good as SF2, which, IMO, continues to be the best competitive, most balanced fighting game of all time.
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My guess is that it's still not as good as SF2, which, IMO, continues to be the best competitive, most balanced fighting game of all time.
Oh, I'm genuinely curious. I'm terrible at these games, so I really don't know.
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I noticed that MvC3 was more like TvC from the videos that I've seen, but not that I've seen confirmation I like it.
Hopefully MvC3 takes some of the balance that TvC has. I.E. you can actually win with every character and there is no pre-dominant team of God Teams in competitive play.
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HOLY CRAP IT'S TEAOFJAY! O_O
Ahem. I'll say what I always say in things like this. It's not the character, it's the skill of the player that makes them great. Even characters that some deem to be absolute unplayable crap can become absolutely lethal in the right hands.
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My guess is that it's still not as good as SF2, which, IMO, continues to be the best competitive, most balanced fighting game of all time.
It's actually a lot of things on the fundamental side of the equation. For example, inputs are VERY lenient, which makes it much more mash-friendly, but also makes it so that it's easier to muddle or outright fudge commands (especially depending on which controller/arcade stick you use). And in any good fighting game, one should want something that will remove anything closer to "randomness" in your overall execution.
Then there's just other things relating to how the games feel so...."boring", compared to other choice games in the saga. It doesn't have Turbo or Super Turbo's pure finesse, Alpha 2 or Alpha 3's robust game engines or 3S's technical depth. The end result is just overly homogenized product that does more to stay "safe" within the bounds of SF2, without having some of the charm that made Turbo or Super Turbo as fun as they were.
Hopefully MvC3 takes some of the balance that TvC has. I.E. you can actually win with every character and there is no pre-dominant team of God Teams in competitive play.
Karas and Zero say "what's good, [shadow runner] WHAT'S REALLY GOOD?!?". 8D
In a game where the rush-down rules, Karas and Zero are clear and away the cream of the crop. Y'know there's some BS-involved when some one who knows what they're doing with the "Wii-mote only" option can STILL CLEAN HOUSE with these two. 8D
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And speaking of ripped from TvC, a Gaffer reports on his impressions on the game:
Hype really starting to deflate here. "TvC HD" with Marvel this time, it is. -u-'
Yeah...remind to stay the [tornado fang]ing hell away from anything MAHVEL related at SRK for a while XD
Karas and Zero say "what's good, [shadow runner] WHAT'S REALLY GOOD?!?". 8D
Karas got hit with the nerfbat way too hard though, but Zero really is the closest to God tier in the game, god damn Capcom had to take away one overpowered character just to put in ANOTHER even MORE overpowered character >___<
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It's actually a lot of things on the fundamental side of the equation. For example, inputs are VERY lenient, which makes it much more mash-friendly, but also makes it so that it's easier to muddle or outright fudge commands (especially depending on which controller/arcade stick you use). And in any good fighting game, one should want something that will remove anything closer to "randomness" in your overall execution.
Then there's just other things relating to how the games feel so...."boring", compared to other choice games in the saga. It doesn't have Turbo or Super Turbo's pure finesse, Alpha 2 or Alpha 3's robust game engines or 3S's technical depth. The end result is just overly homogenized product that does more to stay "safe" within the bounds of SF2, without having some of the charm that made Turbo or Super Turbo as fun as they were.
Karas and Zero say "what's good, [shadow runner] WHAT'S REALLY GOOD?!?". 8D
In a game where the rush-down rules, Karas and Zero are clear and away the cream of the crop. Y'know there's some BS-involved when some one who knows what they're doing with the "Wii-mote only" option can STILL CLEAN HOUSE with these two. 8D
You gotta understand. I love playing Street Fighter 2, it's my favorite fighting game by far. But sometimes, I get kinda tired of just constantly having to train with my main before I play it, and re-remembering all of the button combos. It's a game based on knowing moves and knowing when to pull them off. It's not a pick-up-and-play game. And sometimes, fighting games HAVE to be pick-up-and-play games. Specially when they're used at parties and stuff, so everyone can play them. Tekken and DOA are big hits at parties, for example. Because you can mash a bit and still come have fun. You can't do that in Street Fighter.
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Same with Soul Calibur too. That's a great party game.
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Yeah...remind to stay the [tornado fang]ing hell away from anything MAHVEL related at SRK for a while XD
You know, I really should have listened to you when you said that.
Holy [parasitic bomb], the site REEKS of elitist when it comes to any fighting game.
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If you ever join make sure to never even type the words "Smash Brothers" XD
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In a game where the rush-down rules, Karas and Zero are clear and away the cream of the crop. Y'know there's some BS-involved when some one who knows what they're doing with the "Wii-mote only" option can STILL CLEAN HOUSE with these two. 8D
Indeed.
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I don't think that's what Ben was refering to. Besides, damaging combos mean nothing unless they're retarded, everyone can do [parasitic bomb] like that, some with much less effort. Hell, Roll can take you from full bar to almost death in 3 seconds, and I'm not [tornado fang]ing kidding.
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I think I found a way to make posts on SRK funnier than they should be: Imagine that they're speaking in a snobby British voice when you read them.
I unintentionally thought of that while reading the comments. This works on all the posts about MvC3 on SRK, even the ones that are typed poorly (which are most of them as far as I can see.)
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My dear man, I'm not even going to put my cursor anywhere near the MvC3 section, but that's just a FANTASTIC idea *insert refined kobun here*
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(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/dakirbymaster/Kobuns/2utkivk.gif)
You rang, sir?
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Karas got hit with the nerfbat way too hard though, but Zero really is the closest to God tier in the game, god damn Capcom had to take away one overpowered character just to put in ANOTHER even MORE overpowered character >___<
The only real main way that Karas got hit with the nerfbat, was in his damage output. That just means he takes LONGER to kill you than he used to, but he can still kill you full of dead. His basic BnBs are still quite good, and he hasn't lost that much in the priority area, either.
So, in short, Karas basically got the "Iori Yagami" treatment. Game in, and game out (before XII, at least), Iori was always pretty damn good, starting from 96. He may have lost the over-powered aspects he may have had in 96-98, but because his overall moveset didn't change much, he didn't lose that much in the following games. 8D
You gotta understand. I love playing Street Fighter 2, it's my favorite fighting game by far. But sometimes, I get kinda tired of just constantly having to train with my main before I play it, and re-remembering all of the button combos. It's a game based on knowing moves and knowing when to pull them off. It's not a pick-up-and-play game. And sometimes, fighting games HAVE to be pick-up-and-play games. Specially when they're used at parties and stuff, so everyone can play them. Tekken and DOA are big hits at parties, for example. Because you can mash a bit and still come have fun. You can't do that in Street Fighter.
And you know what? You're right, and have no problem with that entire notion of having "pick-up-n-play" games for those who want to play 'em. My problem, as I was trying to dialogue with HS.exe a while ago, stems largely from the fact that decently technical games like SF and MvC are being what I consider "compromised" for the sake of this want to try and capture the casual market. It wouldn't be so bad, if it didn't mean that those of us who desire to play a technical game have to feel the brunt of it, as well.
What I mean is, reducing a fighting game on the technical tip, only does more to limit the meta-game potential the game could stand to have. At the very least, a game with decent meta potential should make it so that there's multiple ways to play every character. There's multiple playstyles to try out and employ. There's different tactics that could be found, touted as "the new way" and then later upended as a NEW tactic is found that's even better. I loved this stuff, growing up in the 90s and at the turn of century. And by the time internet made it easier to find out about this sort of thing, it just made things that much more interesting for those who want to learn more about the game.
THAT, to me, is what SF, KOF and others in its ilk should always strive to be. It's what made a number of us fall in love with them so many moons ago, and that is why a number of us are a bit displeased with how Capcom is doing things here lately. And it's not about being "elitist" (for the reasonable amongst us, at least! 8D). It's about how Capcom is seemingly unable, or otherwise not willing, to make games that could cater to both casual and competitive, without necessarily alienating one or the other. They're not doing anything to alleviate this long-standing issue, they're doing more to slap a band-aid over it and telling us "DEAL WITH IT". If "Easy Auto" modewasn't going to help some one just pick-up and play MvC years ago, is a simplified control scheme going to do that much better in MvC3?
It's perhaps for this main reason I fear for a modern-day Vampire/Darkstalkers prospect. More than likely, if Ono does get his wish, there's a high probability that he won't make a game that lives up to Vampire Savior, which most recognize as among Capcom's best fighting games, if not THE. And what would be the point of making such a game to cater to casual interests, when Darkstalkers doesn't even HAVE that kind of appeal in the West in the first place? 8D
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The only real main way that Karas got hit with the nerfbat, was in his damage output. That just means he takes LONGER to kill you than he used to, but he can still kill you full of dead. His basic BnBs are still quite good, and he hasn't lost that much in the priority area, either.
His attacks are laggier and he can't lock you down like he could before though, unlike Zero...I swear that guy has no freaking recovery frames D:
And what would be the point of making such a game to cater to casual interests, when Darkstalkers doesn't even HAVE that kind of appeal in the West in the first place? 8D
Oh, I'm sure that if done correctly they could gather plenty of casual interest, just make sure to have Morrigan and Felicia in every ad for starters 8D Besides, for good or for bad, vampires are "in" now.
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If you ever join make sure to never even type the words "Smash Brothers" XD
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The character select screen.
(http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/3314/17charselect03.jpg)
Basically 28 slots unobstructed by foreground images in the 4 by 7 center squares.
If we count War Machine and Chuck that pretty much brings us to the original 30 they mentioned.
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Saw gameplay of it, looks sick, dont care what all the haters have to say about it.
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Zero huh.
Soooo, Cappy, whens X gonna get his Fighting/versus game debut?
Not that Im upset about Zero, Im happy hes in. But seriously. He, Trigger and Rock get all the attention in these kinds of games while the MAIN man of the X series still hasnt gotten his debut...
but whatever. game looks sick so far. cant wait.
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He, Trigger and Rock get all the attention in these kinds of games while the MAIN man of the X series still hasnt gotten his debut...
He's not even the MAIN man in his own series, so why should this game be any different? 8D
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Pretty much. X is the same as Haruhi, They're the "title" characters, but not the actual main characters. Kyon/god is. And From around X4 onwards the majority of the story has been mainly about ZERO.
At least until X7 where everything was dropped.
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Then why isnt AXL in? 8D
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For a minite I thought that Zero was in MvC3, then I realized that your talkin about Zero in TvC, XD .
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For a minite I thought that Zero was in MvC3, then I realized that your talkin about Zero in TvC, XD .
Actually, given that (possibly fake) list a page or so back, Zero may just be in the game. It wouldn't shock me if they just grabbed all the MM characters from TvC and shipped 'em here.
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Not sure if it's been posted yet, but apparently there's a chance that it might end up on the Wii eventually (http://www.gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=128066). Whether this is really a possibility or not has yet to be seen.
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Not sure if it's been posted yet, but apparently there's a chance that it might end up on the Wii eventually (http://www.gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=128066). Whether this is really a possibility or not has yet to be seen.
If anything, I think the upcoming SF4 port on the 3DS makes it more clear what Capcom may have in mind. The Wii may not ever be the ideal console of choice for the fighting game fan, but the 3DS could easily be that portable choice for this upcoming era.
Then there's also this (http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/06/22/3ds_resident_evil_mt_framework/). This confirms MT Framework's presence on the 3DS, which may end up having more to do with what we heard about "MT on Wii" tagline we heard about months ago, and what s-kill described as a "gathering of resources and nothing more" on Capcom-unity.
Frankly, I would think this to be the better option. A port of MvC3 on the Wii wouldn't be anything near its HD Twin counterpart, and for it to come possibly some time later would be even more of a joke. But a portable port (regardless of how well it lives up to its "big brothers") would always find validity in the sheer notion that it's portable...
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Honestly, I'd rather see it first at the arcade than the Wii. I need my arcade version.
Off-topic: Seeing Ben's avatar in this topic makes me feel forced to say "GOD DAMN IT CAPCOM, YOU NEED TO DO ANOTHER JOJO FIGHTER!" XD
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Not that the Wii doesn't deserve it, but its regular controller makes it hard for most companies to want to make fighting games for it.
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Well at least it has an official arcade stick for it. Plus for the MvC control scheme, the classic controller pro should suffice.
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Well at least it has an official arcade stick for it. Plus for the MvC control scheme, the classic controller pro should suffice.
Yeah, but for example, I don't have a classic controller, simply because I don't feel like buying an extra controller just to play a few games differently.
If I didn't have a Gamecube controller, I'd be boned when it comes to TvsC.
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Well bollocks then! XD
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Honestly, I'd rather see it first at the arcade than the Wii. I need my arcade version.
Sadly, I think MvC3 (if not Super SF4) marks the beginning of a new trend for Capcom. If a major FG release such as this can skimp arcades entirely, it'll only prove that modern-day Capcom doesn't HAVE to continue catering to the Arcade market to make money. Besides, considering the "MAHVEL" series was always more relevant to the West (where arcades have all but died out), and that just does more to make it clear.
We'll see what happens if/when the next Fighting game release from the "Ono" (SF4) camp comes around, though. If Ono gets to make his Vampire/Darkstalkers game, and it skips arcades, then yeah, it's not looking good for the Game Center/Arcade gamer...
Off-topic: Seeing Ben's avatar in this topic makes me feel forced to say "GOD DAMN IT CAPCOM, YOU NEED TO DO ANOTHER JOJO FIGHTER!" XD
A Steel Ball Run-themed (or otherwise Jojo X-over) FG would be the answer to a long-standing wish of mine. Capcom, Bamco, ASW, whoever; give me a new game! The SBR manga stands to ends some time in the near future, after all! 8D
But after the last 2 Jojo games on PS2 (which both used 3D graphics), it seems clear to me that Araki's style really only works well in a 2D style. No matter how much Bamco and Capcom tried, rendering Araki's eccentric designs doesn't seem to work well in a 3D space.
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I say it should probably be arcade/consoles release. I know everyone loves the fact that it coming out for the arcades helps the game development and community, but dammit, I also want to be able to PLAY THE THING. >_>;;;
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I say it should probably be arcade/consoles release. I know everyone loves the fact that it coming out for the arcades helps the game development and community, but dammit, I also want to be able to PLAY THE THING. >_>;;;
In a perfect world...! 8D
But seriously, an arcade/console thing wouldn't work. If people had the option of playing in their own homes, that does a lot to kill the possible sales on the Arcade side. Arcade operators would not be pleased by this type of thing (they have to pay out plenty of money for those arcade cabinets and PCBs, after all), which is why the usual rule is to give an arcade version of a game at least 6 months to rack in those quarters and keep said operators happy.
I mean, believe me: I'd love nothing better than to be able to play Gundam EXTREME Versus asap. And with the game being built on Namco System 356 (PS3-based tech), a PS3 port would be easy. But Bamco and Capcom want to make that money, and the Arcade owners want that return on their hundred thousand dollar investment, so I and others gotta wait til next spring at the earliest. 8D
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In a perfect world...! 8D
But seriously, an arcade/console thing wouldn't work. If people had the option of playing in their own homes, that does a lot to kill the possible sales on the Arcade side. Arcade operators would not be pleased by this type of thing (they have to pay out plenty of money for those arcade cabinets and PCBs, after all), which is why the usual rule is to give an arcade version of a game at least 6 months to rack in those quarters and keep said operators happy.
I mean, believe me: I'd love nothing better than to be able to play Gundam EXTREME Versus asap. And with the game being built on Namco System 356 (PS3-based tech), a PS3 port would be easy. But Bamco and Capcom want to make that money, and the Arcade owners want that return on their hundred thousand dollar investment, so I and others gotta wait til next spring at the earliest. 8D
Aren't the people who play at arcades the most competitive? Would they stop playing in competitions such as those if the home console version was released at the same time?
They could do something like having special characters in the arcade version, that would be added through free DLC later.
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In a perfect world...! 8D
But seriously, an arcade/console thing wouldn't work. If people had the option of playing in their own homes, that does a lot to kill the possible sales on the Arcade side. Arcade operators would not be pleased by this type of thing (they have to pay out plenty of money for those arcade cabinets and PCBs, after all), which is why the usual rule is to give an arcade version of a game at least 6 months to rack in those quarters and keep said operators happy.
I mean, believe me: I'd love nothing better than to be able to play Gundam EXTREME Versus asap. And with the game being built on Namco System 356 (PS3-based tech), a PS3 port would be easy. But Bamco and Capcom want to make that money, and the Arcade owners want that return on their hundred thousand dollar investment, so I and others gotta wait til next spring at the earliest. 8D
True, but I'm just being greedy on this since I know that there aren't many arcades left that would actually buy new games, but I'm sure mine would get it since they get a good amount of money from the Marvel games and actually get stuff that's newer than Neogeo/CPS2 games :P
Yeah, but for example, I don't have a classic controller, simply because I don't feel like buying an extra controller just to play a few games differently.
If I didn't have a Gamecube controller, I'd be boned when it comes to TvsC.
And that's why I say that they should've made a damn bundle like MHTri did.
A Steel Ball Run-themed (or otherwise Jojo X-over) FG would be the answer to a long-standing wish of mine. Capcom, Bamco, ASW, whoever; give me a new game! The SBR manga stands to ends some time in the near future, after all! 8D
But after the last 2 Jojo games on PS2 (which both used 3D graphics), it seems clear to me that Araki's style really only works well in a 2D style. No matter how much Bamco and Capcom tried, rendering Araki's eccentric designs doesn't seem to work well in a 3D space.
SBR is almost done? Man they really need to hurry up with those scanlations >_>
And yeah, Araki's style can only be done justice in 2D...give the license to Arc then 8D (Hey, HnK was awesome even though it was so broken that not even all of the duct tape in the world could fix it XD)
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Aren't the people who play at arcades the most competitive? Would they stop playing in competitions such as those if the home console version was released at the same time?
It's not just competitive players who flock to arcades, though. Again, take for example, the Gundam Vs. series. As long as that game stays in arcades, operators are guaranteed to get hit up by everyone ranging from die-hard Gundam fans, diehard Gundam Vs. fans, casuals and even the salary man who just wants to bash in a few Zakus through 1P/2P Co-op mode after work.
In short, that's a lot of business. Business which would basically do more to be cut in more than half, once a home version arrives. And nobody, ranging from Capcom+Bamco or the Arcade Operators, wants that to be cut into any sooner than necessary.
They could do something like having special characters in the arcade version, that would be added through free DLC later.
Funny thing is that Gundam Vs. has done some thing similar to that in recent iterations, and has been pretty much confirmed for Extreme. Time unlocks make it so that with the passage of time, more units and play routes are unlocked, which only adds on more to the game. In short, you can probably be sure that by the time the Gundam 00 movie and the newest Unicorn OVA is out, stuff will probably be unlocked in Extreme that will add a new layer of fun to the product.
Of course, this isn't too much in the way of those who are still waiting on the console port. But then again, "PLUS" (Home) versions of the game have always even more, exclusive bonus units and playmodes any way, so I guess it's at least a thing that make your wait worth it. 8D
SBR is almost done? Man they really need to hurry up with those scanlations >_>
Well, right now, we're in the midst of the 8th Stage, with the 9th Stage being the last. It's any one's guess how long Araki wants to keep this going, but I'm thinking we probably will be seeing the end of this manga by the end of next year (assuming no surprises).
And yeah, Araki's style can only be done justice in 2D...give the license to Arc then 8D (Hey, HnK was awesome even though it was so broken that not even all of the duct tape in the world could fix it XD)
Hey, a broken game = a FUNNY-ASS GAME. 8D
And besides, it's not like the original Jojo game wasn't busted as all get out, either. Even before you involve the likes of top tier Pet Shop, pretty much every body has a means that makes them insanely good. It's still probably one of my fave all time games, because in the end, all of the bullshit (except for the bird's) does more to balance itself out.
Hopefully, Lucky Land Communications will start looking around for obvious marketing opportunities as the manga draws to a close. I DEMAND the right to play as Raptor Jesus...err DIO in some type of fighting game! 8D
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I DEMAND the right to play as Raptor Jesus...err DIO in some type of fighting game! 8D
You are not alone my friend, you certainly aren't. Also, technically wouldn't it be Rapto God, since, you know, Dio means god? 8D
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It's not just competitive players who flock to arcades, though. Again, take for example, the Gundam Vs. series. As long as that game stays in arcades, operators are guaranteed to get hit up by everyone ranging from die-hard Gundam fans, diehard Gundam Vs. fans, casuals and even the salary man who just wants to bash in a few Zakus through 1P/2P Co-op mode after work.
In short, that's a lot of business. Business which would basically do more to be cut in more than half, once a home version arrives. And nobody, ranging from Capcom+Bamco or the Arcade Operators, wants that to be cut into any sooner than necessary.
Small-time japanese business versus bigtime international home release business? I'm gonna go with the big guys on this.
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Small-time japanese business versus bigtime international home release business? I'm gonna go with the big guys on this.
Again, it's all relative. And unlike over in the West, Arcades are still relevant in Japan and a good portion of the East Asian sphere. People over there still like to go to the Arcades, often, just for the "experience". Saying that they are "small-time" is definitely a misnomer.
For example, to this date, the various Gundam Vs.'s arcade releases have still pulled in more revenue for Bamco than any one of their home releases in that region on PS2 or PSP. And when you consider that Gundam is, also, only really relevant in Japan, being able to focus mainly on the arcade market makes that much more sense.
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Again, it's all relative. And unlike over in the West, Arcades are still relevant in Japan and a good portion of the East Asian sphere. People over there still like to go to the Arcades, often, just for the "experience". Saying that they are "small-time" is definitely a misnomer.
For example, to this date, the various Gundam Vs.'s arcade releases have still pulled in more revenue for Bamco than any one of their home releases in that region on PS2 or PSP. And when you consider that Gundam is, also, only really relevant in Japan, being able to focus mainly on the arcade market makes that much more sense.
Of course japanese companies are conservative when taking care of their own markets and not giving a damn about the rest of the world. But considering the independent titles with a huge fanbase over here which end up being ported and translated all the time, I think they're making a BIG mistake not to expand their market. Yes, the arcade business is very "small-time". Compared to the rest of the world, that is. Gundam might be a tough brand to sell internationally, but by simply closing its business on the japanese arcades alone, they're missing quite alot of fans on the other side of the globe who would be VERY happy to pay big money for their favorite new fighting game.
Capcom's decision to keep Street Fighter 4 in arcades for so long was stupid, for example. They could have kept it in arcades in Japan, but released it in consoles in the rest of the world. Importers are normally the hardcore clientelle, so that would guarantee the arcades' success. But having such a conservative approach for games which could easily turn big bucks with a huge audience? Mistake.
It's amazing the number of companies who keep porting their games mostly due to their enormous success abroad when the translation was finally released years later abroad. They just don't really seem to put faith in the international console business, and stick to arcades. Which, as much as they may continue to be a form of japanese culture, will eventually fail financially and dissapear.
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Yes, the arcade business is very "small-time". Compared to the rest of the world, that is. Gundam might be a tough brand to sell internationally, but by simply closing its business on the japanese arcades alone, they're missing quite alot of fans on the other side of the globe who would be VERY happy to pay big money for their favorite new fighting game.
Capcom's decision to keep Street Fighter 4 in arcades for so long was stupid, for example. They could have kept it in arcades in Japan, but released it in consoles in the rest of the world. Importers are normally the hardcore clientelle, so that would guarantee the arcades' success. But having such a conservative approach for games which could easily turn big bucks with a huge audience? Mistake.
It's really only a "mistake" if the company itself thinks as such. One thing you may neglect is the notion of how a company stands to make MORE money through an arcade release, as opposed to the console port.
For example, Namco. They make their arcade wares on proprietary hardware that's specified to their liking, and then unleash them on the arcade market. Who do the proceeds of those units go to? Their very maker, and then the arcade operators get their small cut. So when Tekken 6 does well in the arcades, Bandai-Namco is the main one that benefits. This is an entirely different position from the console market, where there's not only the thing of making sure a console port is able to be "arcade perfect" (or better), you have to deal with the hardware and its manufacturer themselves, along with everything else that goes with such a thing for marketing a console port. All of which, costs money that is cut from proceeds before some one like Namco even sees the profits from the console ports themselves.
There in lies the reason why companies like Capcom and Namco, for the most part, love to make their money in arcades first. Doing it there means they get the largest, unfettered portion of cash possible. Then, after they make as much money as they can there, then they start considering the home market.
So again, pretty much the main reason why MvC3 is not getting an arcade release is because MAHVEL is much more relevant to Western interests, arcades are decidedly dead over here and the recent success of MvC2 on LIVE and PSN in the West (it wasn't even released on PSN/XBLA in Japan...) only made it clear how and where Marvel vs. Capcom 3 should be marketed. Thus, the focus on the western console market in MvC3's particular instance, makes as much as sense as how Namco does so for Soul Calibur currently. Namco doesn't care about SC basically being a "console-only" franchise, because they still have Tekken and Gundam doing plenty to hold it down in arcades. I wouldn't be surprised if Capcom sees it the same way for other things they may have in mind...
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What you said only makes weirder the fact that the arcade version of Super is getting released months after the console version.
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What you said only makes weirder the fact that the arcade version of Super is getting released months after the console version.
That's just a thing that can only be described as "don't underestimate the clamor of Asian arcade players". But this thing isn't as weird or uncommon as you may think. Your boys at SNK have been able to make plenty of nice capital re-releasing KOF98 and 2002 back and forth between arcades and consoles over the years, as I'm sure you know. 8D
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It's really only a "mistake" if the company itself thinks as such. One thing you may neglect is the notion of how a company stands to make MORE money through an arcade release, as opposed to the console port.
For example, Namco. They make their arcade wares on proprietary hardware that's specified to their liking, and then unleash them on the arcade market. Who do the proceeds of those units go to? Their very maker, and then the arcade operators get their small cut. So when Tekken 6 does well in the arcades, Bandai-Namco is the main one that benefits. This is an entirely different position from the console market, where there's not only the thing of making sure a console port is able to be "arcade perfect" (or better), you have to deal with the hardware and its manufacturer themselves, along with everything else that goes with such a thing for marketing a console port. All of which, costs money that is cut from proceeds before some one like Namco even sees the profits from the console ports themselves.
There in lies the reason why companies like Capcom and Namco, for the most part, love to make their money in arcades first. Doing it there means they get the largest, unfettered portion of cash possible. Then, after they make as much money as they can there, then they start considering the home market.
So again, pretty much the main reason why MvC3 is not getting an arcade release is because MAHVEL is much more relevant to Western interests, arcades are decidedly dead over here and the recent success of MvC2 on LIVE and PSN in the West (it wasn't even released on PSN/XBLA in Japan...) only made it clear how and where Marvel vs. Capcom 3 should be marketed. Thus, the focus on the western console market in MvC3's particular instance, makes as much as sense as how Namco does so for Soul Calibur currently. Namco doesn't care about SC basically being a "console-only" franchise, because they still have Tekken and Gundam doing plenty to hold it down in arcades. I wouldn't be surprised if Capcom sees it the same way for other things they may have in mind...
Considering the tons upon tons of units a game with enough cred can sell in the world, even with the cut profits, I kinda believe a game stands to make way more much money through console release. Even through a percentage, and with the manufacturing, exporting and taxing costs, games that get attention drawn to them are able to make alot of money. With all the math done, the developer still stands to gain quite a hefty percentage. I'd understand their inclination if the arcade business was international, or even Japan and US. But just in Japan? Just give enough hype to a game, don't cheap out on adverts, and you got a sure seller.
I'm not saying all games sell around here. There's plenty of good reasons why Visual Novels/Dating Sims have always stayed in Japan (one of them being that they're boring, with kinda clichéd storylines by now =P), and I'm not opposed to typical japanese genres to be stuck around there. But COME ON. Virtua Fighter is an unexplored goldmine as far as it goes. And Street Fighter, being the world's most widely known fighting game, could have had an international release easily.
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But COME ON. Virtua Fighter is an unexplored goldmine as far as it goes. And Street Fighter, being the world's most widely known fighting game, could have had an international release easily.
Again, even if they could, they more than likely won't do such a thing, because again, the symbiosis that Capcom and other such markets have with the arcade market is (usually) too beneficial. Not only on the monetary tip, but just for the sake of the game's possible "health" in itself. Namely: How does a modern day fighting game of decent competitive value hope to obtain such a thing? Months upon months of beta testing in various arcades, which do more to be a "controlled environment" that a developer can actively monitor. And even the time frame after the game goes "Gold" in arcades can still be considered an extensive "testing ground", from which the devs will use in order to consider what to do for the home version. And that's in addition to any other things that they may want to give exclusively to the home version.
In short, you want a fighting game to be the most "balanced" and most "bang for your buck" experience it could stand to be? You would probably prefer it to be put through its paces, BEFORE it reaches your PS3/360. Tekken 6's PS3/360 port was basically a disaster, and it had a lot to do with the fact that Namco tried to "rush dat [parasitic bomb] down" before making sure that the game was truly optimized. Never played the game, but the fallout for Arcana Heart 2's PS2 port is entirely warranted; it's probably the worst port-job for a FG since the 90s and the SNES/PSX. Meanwhile, you had to wait a minute for BB:CS last summer, but in the end, it was worth it for the sake of, if nothing else, ASW/Aksys giving a quality port with excellent netcode.
Besides, most FG developers know that, now-a-days, you're not going to be able to sell any type of home version of a FG, and expect to get by with just a "straight port" that just had Arcade and Vs. That's basically commercial suicide, and not even SF would be able to get away with some thing like that. So they might as well use that extra time to add in those extra modes that will sweeten the deal for those buyers. 8D
Any way! Getting back on topic!
The EVO Championship Series is proud to reveal that the 2010 World Finals will also feature Marvel Vs. Capcom 3: Fate of Two Worlds, playable by the general public for the first time anywhere. Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 producer Ryota Niitsuma will also be making a special appearance alongside his new game, so stop by to play it for yourself and tell him what you think!
- http://shoryuken.com/content/evo-2010-first-publicly-playable-build-marvel-vs-capcom-3-fate-two-worlds-super-exclusive-mad-catz-golden-fightsticks-1080/
I gotta say...for Niitsuma and Capcom to have enough balls to showcase the game at the VERY place where the highest probability of naysayers, haters, cautiously pessimistic and otherwise MvC2 players stand to be? That's pretty gangsta. Now, if only Niitsuma can truly deliver on his claims on how the "upcoming build of MvC3 will be even more like MvC2", we might be truly onto something. 8D
EVO will be taking place 7/9-7/11, in any case. So look forward to that time for more news!
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How exciting.
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Honestly, easier fixes to game flaws can be gotten through patches. Why not have open betas, like FPS games have nowadays? There's tons of ways to make the game better for the home environment.
And that arcade stick looks nice. A bit too pee-color for my tastes, but nice still. And I agree, they do have balls to show it there, SPECIALLY since the game's been criticized by the hardcore for being too much like TvsC.
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Honestly, easier fixes to game flaws can be gotten through patches. Why not have open betas, like FPS games have nowadays?
Two main reasons -
1) Money - "Open Betas", like you are thinking of, wouldn't make arcade developers the money they would get from both loke tests and a full-fledged arcade run. That much goes without saying.
2) The "closed environment" - Loke tests afford fighting game developers to keep a closer observation on how the game is being performing throughout the course of the loke test. For the sake of a smaller "circle" that is a fighting game development team and its direct audience, it keeps the devs and players closer to each other. For the sake of a decidedly smaller "infrastructure" such as this, it works. The FG market is still NOWHERE NEAR the market share that FPSes or the rudimentary Blizzard game enjoy.
Even the way that Capcom is marketing MvC3 currently is, in the end, a "modified" version of how a this same "test period" would operate for any other major arcade release. The fact that it's a "straight to console" release for the sake of the Western demographic notwithstanding, it's clear that E3 and now the upcoming EVO were/are basically "loke tests" in this particular instance (with the only minus being that Capcom doesn't make any more money beyond what they already get from sponsoring such events).
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Two main reasons -
1) Money - "Open Betas", like you are thinking of, wouldn't make arcade developers the money they would get from both loke tests and a full-fledged arcade run. That much goes without saying.
2) The "closed environment" - Loke tests afford fighting game developers to keep a closer observation on how the game is being performing throughout the course of the loke test. For the sake of a smaller "circle" that is a fighting game development team and its direct audience, it keeps the devs and players closer to each other. For the sake of a decidedly smaller "infrastructure" such as this, it works. The FG market is still NOWHERE NEAR the market share that FPSes or the rudimentary Blizzard game enjoy.
Even the way that Capcom is marketing MvC3 currently is, in the end, a "modified" version of how a this same "test period" would operate for any other major arcade release. The fact that it's a "straight to console" release for the sake of the Western demographic notwithstanding, it's clear that E3 and now the upcoming EVO were/are basically "loke tests" in this particular instance (with the only minus being that Capcom doesn't make any more money beyond what they already get from sponsoring such events).
Solutions:
1) Paid open betas. Tons of ways to do this. SSF2THDR had one.
2) Tournaments set inside such betas, devs watch such tournaments streamed. The infrastructure is small because only regional players are even able to attend such spaces and play such games. To hell with keeping it in the family, global release is king. And internationally, you'd get a hell of a lot better bug test results than you'd get with a small crowd at an arcade.
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Solutions:
1) Paid open betas. Tons of ways to do this. SSF2THDR had one.
HDR was also a big time and money sink that was sometimes seemingly teetering on the edge of being canned, because of the problematic development cycle and trying to coordinate things with an American dev. How HDR was able to rise above all the BS that surrounded its development cycle is nothing short of miraculous, but I sincerely doubt it will be a long time before Capcom does something to that effect again.
2) Tournaments set inside such betas, devs watch such tournaments streamed.
These things already happen in Japanese arcades and in parts of the US West Coast, where the Arcade market is still fairly lucrative. Such things get the job done just fine for the purposes of the developer, the game and its scene. If you're the developer, why should you want to spend more money than is necessary?
The infrastructure is small because only regional players are even able to attend such spaces and play such games.
No, the infrastructure is small because the fighting game market itself is still small. "Year of the Fighter/Fighting Game Rebirth" sensationalism aside, FGs still do a lot to cater to the same audience they always have. The best you can say about the "mainstream success" that some titles like Street Fighter, Soul Calibur and Mortal Kombat have obtained in recent years, is that there will always be a demographic that will be happy to play the games every once in a while for the sake of shits and giggles at parties. But they're the same ones who more than likely can't be bothered to care about the games beyond that scope.
So, in that light, what reason is there to change things, from Capcom and Namco's POVs? "Johnny Casual", or his decidedly more urban counterpart "Raheem Kashwel", isn't likely going to care that the latest versions of Street Fighter and Tekken might be stuck in arcades for a period of 6 months to a year, before they can hook it up into their Xbox 360s. In their cases, there's not going to be agonizing over loke test footage that could be viewed on youtube, nico or TRF, and wondering "WHY AM I NOT ABLE TO PLAY THIS [parasitic bomb] YET, I NEED THIS IN MY LIFE NOW?!". The ones who are doing that are well, guys like you, me and the denizens at SRK, and respective communities for the various fighting games that exist. And well, we're all, collectively, definitely in the minority. 8D
If things change, then maybe Capcom, Namco and their ilk will do likewise. But I don't foresee any such developments ever occurring, because even Capcom, Midway and Namco, the "leaders" in the game, if you will, don't see the need to adapt their marketing and development plans beyond that which has proven to work. And for developers like SNK on down, who've never had the sheer commercial success that the big boys have enjoyed, that much is only more the case.
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HDR was also a big time and money sink that was sometimes seemingly teetering on the edge of being canned, because of the problematic development cycle and trying to coordinate things with an American dev. How HDR was able to rise above all the BS that surrounded its development cycle is nothing short of miraculous, but I sincerely doubt it will be a long time before Capcom does something to that effect again.
And presently, it's the best version of Street Fighter 2, and probably the tightest, most balanced, best competitive fighting game in the world. But that's besides the point. I was talking about the paid beta, which was released with Commando 3. Tons of people bought the game just to have the multiplayer beta.
These things already happen in Japanese arcades and in parts of the US West Coast, where the Arcade market is still fairly lucrative. Such things get the job done just fine for the purposes of the developer, the game and its scene. If you're the developer, why should you want to spend more money than is necessary?
No, the infrastructure is small because the fighting game market itself is still small. "Year of the Fighter/Fighting Game Rebirth" sensationalism aside, FGs still do a lot to cater to the same audience they always have. The best you can say about the "mainstream success" that some titles like Street Fighter, Soul Calibur and Mortal Kombat have obtained in recent years, is that there will always be a demographic that will be happy to play the games every once in a while for the sake of shits and giggles at parties. But they're the same ones who more than likely can't be bothered to care about the games beyond that scope.
So, in that light, what reason is there to change things, from Capcom and Namco's POVs? "Johnny Casual", or his decidedly more urban counterpart "Raheem Kashwel", isn't likely going to care that the latest versions of Street Fighter and Tekken might be stuck in arcades for a period of 6 months to a year, before they can hook it up into their Xbox 360s. In their cases, there's not going to be agonizing over loke test footage that could be viewed on youtube, nico or TRF, and wondering "WHY AM I NOT ABLE TO PLAY THIS [parasitic bomb] YET, I NEED THIS IN MY LIFE NOW?!". The ones who are doing that are well, guys like you, me and the denizens at SRK, and respective communities for the various fighting games that exist. And well, we're all, collectively, definitely in the minority. 8D
If things change, then maybe Capcom, Namco and their ilk will do likewise. But I don't foresee any such developments ever occurring, because even Capcom, Midway and Namco, the "leaders" in the game, if you will, don't see the need to adapt their marketing and development plans beyond that which has proven to work. And for developers like SNK on down, who've never had the sheer commercial success that the big boys have enjoyed, that much is only more the case.
It certainly has a bigger fanbase than a ton of other, more "underground" titles that japanese companies always make an effort to release as soon as possible because the fanbase demands it, and makes quite a bit of money for them. And don't tell me big-named fighting games such as Street Fighter don't sell well. If it's Sprite Loli Moe Fighter version three thousand four hundred and seven, I can understand there's no big clamoring for it, but games like Street Fighter 4 should have had a worldwide release, no matter how much testing hired professionals have to do behind closed doors. Heck, fighting games can be enjoyed by a big mainstream audience. They certainly got enough cred, and waaaaaaaay more cred than a ton of other popular genres. Developers should spend more money in releasing titles worldwide and making the whole thing just work, because it gives them a bigger audience. Giving more importance to that big audience = more money. And before you start saying about how not alot of people are interested in the complexity of fighting games, I'll just say that they're not more complex than say... World of Warcraft, or Starcraft. Being GOOD at either of those games requires quite alot of time and skill. And tons upon tons of people still do it. And bugs are checked, and they're fixed with patches.
Hell, I am a casual fighter player. I've never took the time to get good at SF2 with more than one character, and in many fighting games, whenever mashing works, I use it. But I like getting temporarily good at some, more experiencing fighting games. But I do believe there's massive potencial for this genre. They just need to expand it. It can become very lucrative if they can make it work.
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And presently, it's the best version of Street Fighter 2, and probably the tightest, most balanced, best competitive fighting game in the world.
MANY people would beg to differ with that statement. To say the least, especially our Asian brethren, who can't even play the game through normal means (No Japanese/Asian release of HD Remix exists). Still others have problems with how David Sirlin chose to "balance" the game (giving buffs to his favorite character, Honda, for example).
Developers should spend more money in releasing titles worldwide and making the whole thing just work, because it gives them a bigger audience. Giving more importance to that big audience = more money.
You're asking them to spend the money, but...for what reason? Where is the guarantee of a "bigger" audience if they really sought out to change things any more than what they are currently? For example, "Vanilla" SF4 has gone on to sell upwards of over 3 million units world wide. Mortal Kombat vs. DC went on to sell 1.8 million units. Both of these games have done just fine, doing things as per the current "status quo". Conversely, Tekken 6 has done more to be a commercial failure, even in spite of an attempt to make for a decent worldwide push beyond its normal scope (for what it was worth).
If any thing, T6 is probably the very thing that showcases why trying to vie for what you speak of can do more harm than good for a fighting game. Development of the home version was held back by an additional year, and it was largely due to Namco wanting to craft a 360 port to make for better "worldwide appeal" (much to the chagrin of PS3 owners who were originally expecting to be able to play the game back in 08). The end result was that BOTH ports suffered as a result performance-wise, and that wasn't even necessary when bad netcode and other issues would eventually crop up, and would do more to seal the fate of T6's home version. In the end, what can be concluded is that trying to go for the "worldwide appeal" with the Tekken property was just too much for even Namco, one of the biggest publishers in the business. As of right now, Namco's Tekken brand is in a pretty bad slump worldwide, which is probably why they've already done more to announce Tekken 7 in an effort to try and save face after last year's fiasco.
So, we got a number of examples of some doing just fine with things the way they are, and one resounding example of how trying to go too far was disastrous. Which do you think most of the competition is going to go with, especially in this economic climate? 8D
But I do believe there's massive potential for this genre. They just need to expand it. It can become very lucrative if they can make it work.
Unfortunately, I don't see it the same way. For one, how do you go about "making it work"? "Expanding the genre", even? Is the answer more in the way of "casual appeal"? I would say "no"; if there's anything that games ranging from KOF, Melty Blood, BlazBlue and TvC have showcased, it's that reducing the number of buttons doesn't do THAT much to level the playing field. Those who still bother to learn the games are going to be the ones who win out, even if you do end up humoring the fantasy of "one button Hadoukens", one day. On the contrary, such a thing does more to take away from the meta-game that experienced players like myself love, which doesn't do us any favors, either.
No, the long and short of it seems to be that Fighting Games would probably need to significantly overhaul the basic formula at a fundamental level, in order to make it expand. Because the basic thing is, Fighting Games require you to do a whole lot in the way of "learning" just to be able to be competent. And that's not something that everybody can do, especially since there's no immediate reward for this learning process that this current "Achievement" and "Trophy" generation can relate to.
Namely, a game like StarCraft will teach you how to play the game through its story mode, and if nothing else, a gamer can play through the campaign, and feel a sense of "achievement" for beating the game. He may or may not ever go on battle.net, but at least he's got that sense of achievement that can't be taken away from him. Such a thing doesn't really exist in the fighting games of today. A gamer can plow through the story mode, muster whatever is necessary to see a character's ending and barely scrape the surface of what the game may potentially have.
Now, I show you this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4WhEc_pjOE (Technical Breakdown for Ash Crimson in KOFXIII)
I could break down a video like this for a more casual minded gamer. Tell 'em how one does the stuff in it, when it should be applied in a match and etc. If they're still around, and not scared away by the amount of learning that would be required to perform some of this stuff, the main thing I could imagine them saying is "....why? Why should I learn this stuff? What's my motivation, if I'm just going to play the game the way I want to play it? I just count myself lucky that I'm able to do a Shoryuken at least 1/4 of the time~! 8D".
That, in a nutshell, explains why FG still have such a great "disconnect" when it comes to casual gamers, which furthermore is the main proponent of why expansion of any sort is unlikely. The basic formula would likely have to be overhauled in order to even hold their interest for more than the "shits and giggles" state of mind. And even there, where's the guarantee of expansion? Hell, you might do more to [acid burst] off your ride-or-die fanbase and lose everything in the process.
So, in the end, that's perhaps one reason why I'm still going to watch out for MvC3, even as I'm still cautiously pessimistic (for now, at least). A much more casual interface, "more emphasis on story" and familiar brand names and characters may have the potential to showcase a new way of doing fighting games. Or it could just be more of the same. We'll see~.
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MANY people would beg to differ with that statement. To say the least, especially our Asian brethren, who can't even play the game through normal means (No Japanese/Asian release of HD Remix exists). Still others have problems with how David Sirlin chose to "balance" the game (giving buffs to his favorite character, Honda, for example).
You're asking them to spend the money, but...for what reason? Where is the guarantee of a "bigger" audience if they really sought out to change things any more than what they are currently? For example, "Vanilla" SF4 has gone on to sell upwards of over 3 million units world wide. Mortal Kombat vs. DC went on to sell 1.8 million units. Both of these games have done just fine, doing things as per the current "status quo". Conversely, Tekken 6 has done more to be a commercial failure, even in spite of an attempt to make for a decent worldwide push beyond its normal scope (for what it was worth).
If any thing, T6 is probably the very thing that showcases why trying to vie for what you speak of can do more harm than good for a fighting game. Development of the home version was held back by an additional year, and it was largely due to Namco wanting to craft a 360 port to make for better "worldwide appeal" (much to the chagrin of PS3 owners who were originally expecting to be able to play the game back in 08). The end result was that BOTH ports suffered as a result performance-wise, and that wasn't even necessary when bad netcode and other issues would eventually crop up, and would do more to seal the fate of T6's home version. In the end, what can be concluded is that trying to go for the "worldwide appeal" with the Tekken property was just too much for even Namco, one of the biggest publishers in the business. As of right now, Namco's Tekken brand is in a pretty bad slump worldwide, which is probably why they've already done more to announce Tekken 7 in an effort to try and save face after last year's fiasco.
So, we got a number of examples of some doing just fine with things the way they are, and one resounding example of how trying to go too far was disastrous. Which do you think most of the competition is going to go with, especially in this economic climate? 8D
Unfortunately, I don't see it the same way. For one, how do you go about "making it work"? "Expanding the genre", even? Is the answer more in the way of "casual appeal"? I would say "no"; if there's anything that games ranging from KOF, Melty Blood, BlazBlue and TvC have showcased, it's that reducing the number of buttons doesn't do THAT much to level the playing field. Those who still bother to learn the games are going to be the ones who win out, even if you do end up humoring the fantasy of "one button Hadoukens", one day. On the contrary, such a thing does more to take away from the meta-game that experienced players like myself love, which doesn't do us any favors, either.
No, the long and short of it seems to be that Fighting Games would probably need to significantly overhaul the basic formula at a fundamental level, in order to make it expand. Because the basic thing is, Fighting Games require you to do a whole lot in the way of "learning" just to be able to be competent. And that's not something that everybody can do, especially since there's no immediate reward for this learning process that this current "Achievement" and "Trophy" generation can relate to.
Namely, a game like StarCraft will teach you how to play the game through its story mode, and if nothing else, a gamer can play through the campaign, and feel a sense of "achievement" for beating the game. He may or may not ever go on battle.net, but at least he's got that sense of achievement that can't be taken away from him. Such a thing doesn't really exist in the fighting games of today. A gamer can plow through the story mode, muster whatever is necessary to see a character's ending and barely scrape the surface of what the game may potentially have.
Now, I show you this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4WhEc_pjOE (Technical Breakdown for Ash Crimson in KOFXIII)
I could break down a video like this for a more casual minded gamer. Tell 'em how one does the stuff in it, when it should be applied in a match and etc. If they're still around, and not scared away by the amount of learning that would be required to perform some of this stuff, the main thing I could imagine them saying is "....why? Why should I learn this stuff? What's my motivation, if I'm just going to play the game the way I want to play it? I just count myself lucky that I'm able to do a Shoryuken at least 1/4 of the time~! 8D".
That, in a nutshell, explains why FG still have such a great "disconnect" when it comes to casual gamers, which furthermore is the main proponent of why expansion of any sort is unlikely. The basic formula would likely have to be overhauled in order to even hold their interest for more than the "shits and giggles" state of mind. And even there, where's the guarantee of expansion? Hell, you might do more to [acid burst] off your ride-or-die fanbase and lose everything in the process.
So, in the end, that's perhaps one reason why I'm still going to watch out for MvC3, even as I'm still cautiously pessimistic (for now, at least). A much more casual interface, "more emphasis on story" and familiar brand names and characters may have the potential to showcase a new way of doing fighting games. Or it could just be more of the same. We'll see~.
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Jesus Christ, it's 2AM. Not gonna reply to all that. Still, while I do agree with the fact that it may be hard to introduce complex fighting games into the overall gaming population, I do believe a way to do it should be explored. I offered some ideas, but I don't develop games, and neither do I have any kind of idea about what the current game companies face economically. But I will say this. It's possible to pretty much popularize every single gaming genre without taking away its substance, and still making it appeal to an enormous audience. I refuse to believe that fighting games are better off in a tiny niche, with japanese players flocking to their own little arcades while the rest of the world can't share such an experience. This isn't just a "I want to play the game" rant. Heck, being a huge Street Fighter fan, I still haven't bought a version of 4, mooching off from friends' disks when I can. My point is that fighting games have shown that they can appeal to everyone. And there must be a way to introduce them to a wider audience without taking away the essence that makes them what they are. Smash Bros had the right idea, for example, but it went at it from a completely different angle. Imagine doing that for 1-on-1 fighting games. It's possible. People may think about impossibilities in terms of controls and a wider audience, but there's always some kind of incredible solution one can find, eventually. Meanwhile, even for a regular masher such as myself, fighting games are still quite alot of fun, and I continue to play them and enjoy them quite alot. I know the same is possible for the average gamer.
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Uh...Who are the characters so far?
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IronMan,Dante,Hulk,Morgan,Dreadpool,Dante,Wolverine,That guy from Resident Evil. That's all I can think of.
Forgot, Capt. America.
I think I spelled some characters name wrong so yea.
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PLAYABLE. BLUES.
Back at Capcom-Unity, I made a blog on my page about having him in MvC 3, a friend of mine "Nemesi" wants him in there too. Besides, he's never been in the other 2.
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IronMan,Dante,Hulk,Morgan,Dreadpool,Dante,Wolverine,That guy from Resident Evil. That's all I can think of.
Forgot, Capt. America.
I think I spelled some characters name wrong so yea.
Dante's so god damn awesome he's listed twice
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OH MY GOODNESS!! I even read the post twice before posting it!! XD, I started rolling on the ground when you pointed that out.
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Any news on who's the supposed final boss? I honestly hope it's not as idiotic and cheap as Yami was.
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If by cheap you mean that they didn't bother to use much money to not make it one of the easiest fighting game bosses ever.
And no, no news. Maybe that dynamic entrance Dormamu had in the trailer was to signify that he's the boss, but that'd be disappointing honestly...
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Or they're probably gonna do what was done with Darkseid and Shao Kahn in MK vs DCU and merge two of the big bads of the two universes together?
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That would be gay, I liked the the boss from the 1st MvC. He's probly the only boss that gave me a hard time.
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If by cheap you mean that they didn't bother to use much money to not make it one of the easiest fighting game bosses ever.
And no, no news. Maybe that dynamic entrance Dormamu had in the trailer was to signify that he's the boss, but that'd be disappointing honestly...
Few animations, and attack spam. Yes, cheap. I want a CHARACTER THAT FIGHTS. Not an orb that doesn't move and just keeps spamming the same two attacks.
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Correction, it was a transformable orb piloted by pure evil represented as a fish in its fishbowl that barely moved and only had 3 attacks =P
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Tai: KoiDrake's topic now.
Also, I still can't wait to play this.
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Tai: KoiDrake's topic now.
lol wut?
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Tai is a huge fan of Boktai.
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Oh, I see. I should have guessed that by his name >0<.
Aaaanyway, enough off-topic from me here, keep walking people
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Any news on who's the supposed final boss? I honestly hope it's not as idiotic and cheap as Yami was.
Legendary Dark Pimp Sparda
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Someone wanted to see Deadpool beating people up with his lifebar?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16lsJREj9vY[/youtube]
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That... is.... AWESOME!!! <3 <3 <3 <3 <3
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Silver Age sound effects! Yaaaaay!
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DAMN. That crack me up. >0<
Deadpool FTW!
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In a couple of hours, after the Tekken 6 tournament, there will be some Marvel 3.
Live Stream of EVO
http://evo2k.com/live/
http://g4tv.com//evo/
Are you ready? C:
Posted on: July 12, 2010, 02:57:36
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Posted on: July 12, 2010, 05:08:03
The EVO clips are out now, with commentary from Seth Killian and Adam Sessler.
Direct feed (smooth, no-lag videos), from the official EVO channel.
Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_O6xkbLr0A)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_O6xkbLr0A[/youtube]
Part 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwtJeA2zrdQ) ( Huh? Where's Part 2? XD )
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwtJeA2zrdQ[/youtube]
The whole thing, live-streamed. ^^;
Part 1 of 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sV5Oh9q2M8)
Part 2 of 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avX7nR52ZZo)
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Looks to be faster than Tatsu, unless I'm mistaken. And it's looking more classic. That's good.
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It's not cool that a lot of the fights ended with a time over. S kill said they were trying to fix the clock, but I think the problem is that everyone isn't doing a lot of damage.
And nobody picked Felicia.
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Looks to be faster than Tatsu, unless I'm mistaken.
Yeah it does look faster than TvC to me too.
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Awesome, my teams confirmed. Deadpool, Dante, Dan.
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The Triple Ds Team eh? :3
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Two Words.
Taunts Everywhere.
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Personally, I barely care about this game any more, but in any case...
http://www.capcom-unity.com/jgonzo/blog/2010/07/20/marvel_vs._capcom_3:_four_new_characters_revealed (http://"http://www.capcom-unity.com/jgonzo/blog/2010/07/20/marvel_vs._capcom_3:_four_new_characters_revealed")
Comic Con 2010 Trailer;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnKGiQYuOKs&feature=player_embedded (http://"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnKGiQYuOKs&feature=player_embedded")
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A Pic Of Deadpool's Super
(http://imgur.com/VM7qn.jpg)
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Chun-Li and Super Skrull aren't surprising at all.
Dr. Doom looks fun though. :P
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OH [parasitic bomb] THE DOOM MAN
Loving this update.
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I wanted Cosmic characters. ;____;
Where's my Beta Ray Bill? My Nova? My Star-Lord?
I wanna play as Groot and say one thing only. ;____________;
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Been listening to the Comic-Con stream (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/unity-events); Seth outright said there:
*no Emma Frost
*no Daredevil
*no Ghost Rider
*no Punisher (they felt he'd be a Chris clone)
*no Phoenix Wright
*no God Hand
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Been listening to the Comic-Con stream (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/unity-events); Seth outright said there:
*no Emma Frost
*no Daredevil
*no Ghost Rider
*no Punisher (they felt he'd be a Chris clone)
*no Phoenix Wright
*no God Hand
There is no God. ;_______;
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Been listening to the Comic-Con stream (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/unity-events); Seth outright said there:
*no Emma Frost
*no Daredevil
*no Ghost Rider
*no Punisher (they felt he'd be a Chris clone)
*no Phoenix Wright
*no God Hand
Awwwww Daredevil wouldn't been pretty cool. Emma Tits would've been hilarious too.
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I wanted Cosmic characters. ;____;
Where's my Beta Ray Bill? My Nova? My Star-Lord?
I wanna play as Groot and say one thing only. ;____________;
I dunno Super-Skrull kinda counts as cosmic now at least I think so after Annihilation. It would be cool to see Nova with the Worldmind. I also wouldn't mind seeing some of the Heralds either or one of the Inhumans.
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Does Nova still jokingly yell BLUE BLAZES?
Posted on: July 21, 2010, 11:24:37 PM
Also, look what KG found...
(http://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/content/resized/ecc84fda2177d20643d56d255f29ea80.jpg)
(http://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/content/13358storystory_full-9728209..jpg)
Well I've found characters I wanna learn! 8D
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YAY!! Ammy's playable!
Also... *pulls health bar down*
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I wanna master Thor just to yell out, YOU JUST GOT MJOLNIR'D!
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http://marvel.com/images/786900.Thor_Character_Art_from_Marvel_vs_Capcom_3_/from/content.videogame.101
http://marvel.com/images/786897.Amaterasu_Character_Art_from_Marvel_vs_Capcom_3_/from/content.videogame.101
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(http://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/content/resized/ecc84fda2177d20643d56d255f29ea80.jpg)
(http://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/content/13358storystory_full-9728209..jpg)
(http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/7697/1273818448286.jpg)
MY BODY WAS NOT READY!
I am now mentally hearing The Sun Rises...
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Wesker has also been confirmed via D.C. Douglas.
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Does Nova still jokingly yell BLUE BLAZES?
Yep. At least sometimes.
Why no Nova? ;_; Well, at least there's the chance of a Beta Ray Bill skin...
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I was going to complain about Trish and about no Phoenix, but now all is right in the world 8)
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Yep. At least sometimes.
Awesome. I loved that he and Namorita made fun of that in New Warriors.
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(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/07/500x_shirt.jpg)
Joe and Dormammu revealed in comic art related.
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YAY! Viewtiful Joe is fun to use in TatsuCap.
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And hopefully they'll get Dee Bradley Baker to do the voice this time.
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Doctor Doom is voiced by the guy who voiced Iron tage from BlazBlue.
Or so I heard.
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So yeah... maining Ammy, if only for the fact that I was hoping she'd be in TvC, what with the last boss being Yami and all.
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So far I still have some of my teams since Ryu, Chun-li, Cap, and Morrigan are still in it. I am still interested in the fact the combo system seems like it came from TvsC.
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Deadpool says 'Anime power up' before he does that swordslash super of his. Awesome.
And he has Shoryuken~ I was rather...mindblown'd
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At least we know that a MegaMan still has a chance to be in the game.
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...Well there was a Legends stage so I guess Tron is in there for sure.
Also will Ruby Heart make a return?
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...Well there was a Legends stage so I guess Tron is in there for sure.
If any thing, it does more to point to how Trigger will likely return from TvC. Reusing the animation data and all that. 8D
Also will Ruby Heart make a return?
Not likely. I believe Niitsuma has already said that the likes of Amingo won't return in this game.
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Even newer Comic-Con trailers, straight from the MvC3 panel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP1lVNh4HZQ (Thor)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6L-Q6gVCtc (Ammy)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wf816Pj-36s (Just a full match with them on opposite teams. Also, Captain America's MSH/MSHvsSF/MvC1 theme is back. Yes to that, I say.)
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Very impressive!
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FINAL JUSTICE.... Prepare Greg.
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FINAL JUSTICE.... Prepare Greg.
YOU'RE GONNA GET MAXIMUM SPIDER'D AND MJOLNIR'D CAP!
AND WIL'D TOO!
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Amaterasu looks like one broken mother [tornado fang]er.
Also apparently rumors are going around that a staff member from capcom let it slip that ZERO and Wesker are indeed in the game, but they were withheld due to the staff wanting to spread the revealings around. Supposedly they're 2 of the 4 reveals set for TGS.
Though We already know Wesker is in thanks to D.C.
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Ameratsu's long range attacks look awesome, although a bit all-powerful. Thor seems to kick an amazing amount of ass. I just know I'm gonna main the Avenger trio.
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I probably would too if Lou & I didn't have our Cap/Spidey rivalry going.
And by rivalry, I mean Cap constantly kicking my Spider Ass! 8D
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I probably would too if Lou & I didn't have our Cap/Spidey rivalry going.
And by rivalry, I mean Cap constantly kicking my Spider Ass! 8D
Spidey's probably not gonna be in it, so just SUCCUMB TO THE CAP SIDE.
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Spidey's probably not gonna be in it, so just SUCCUMB TO THE CAP SIDE.
How can Spidey NOT be in a Marvel game?
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And his silhoutte (you know, the one that was EXACTLY like his winpose in the whole Marvel VS series) is extremely obvious in the trailer it appeared. That and he's in one of the posters of the NYC stage IIRC, and everyone appearing there is using its ingame model.
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How can Spidey NOT be in a Marvel game?
Yeah, that'd just be unAmerican. It's like a Pop-Tart without filling, a hollow and empty little box of lies.
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I woulda thought he'd show up by now, plus all that Activision rights thingy. But yeah, I haven't been paying much attention to that, so he might turn up in there. Just begs the question of why they haven't shown him yet. He's not exactly a niche-favorite, he needs to be marketed loudly right at the start.
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Hey, you could be right. I just find it highly unlikely that he would not be in it.
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Me too, but... why hasn't he shown up already? I gotta say, with Activision making a Spidey game that features the comic incarnation, among others, that makes me a bit concerned that he won't appear in MvsC3.
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Maybe Quesada sold Spidey to Mephistovision?
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Yeah he has to be in it. They probably haven't announced him yet because we all expect him to be there, or because of the activision game, or simply they haven't gotten to him yet. Also they have been releasing updates in pairs too. They also seem to matching up people according to themes. They probably have someone he is paired up with but they just don't want to say who that is yet. For example that have Logan and Ryu who are both warriors, Chris and Hulk works because its Hulk vs the military type and Chris vs the huge ass monster, Deadpool and Dante are both smart asses, Thor and Ama are both gods, Chun-li, Dr. Doom, Super Skrull, and Trish I am having trouble connecting. I guess Chun-Li and Trish are the Capcom beauties, and Doom and Skrull are the Marvel's hideous villains. I never really read much Dr. Strange to know about much about Domrammu (other then what happened with the Hood) and never had a chance to play the Viewtiful Joe games to know much about Joe so not sure how they connect. Then again in the offical trailer Dormammu showed up alone. Anyway back to my main point which is basically a game that has the best of two companies going at it would have to have Spider-man on Marvel's side like Capcom would have to have Ryu on their side.
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... I am digging that remix of Sun Rises from the Amaterasu footage.
<blasphemy>
Looks like I'll finally get a Marvel vs. Capcom game.
</blasphemy>
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Me too, but... why hasn't he shown up already? I gotta say, with Activision making a Spidey game that features the comic incarnation, among others, that makes me a bit concerned that he won't appear in MvsC3.
Don't forget Activision has the rights to Marvel because they put out the alliance games. Those also had Cap, Thor, Iron man, Doom, Deadpool, and they are all in MvsC3. Plus Sega had the rights to Iron man while Alliance was being made. I don't think the rights are like movie rights. I think multiple people can have the rights to something when it comes to games.
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No Hulk and Chris works because Hulk is just Green Chris and vice versa.
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How is Hulk a green Chris?
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Cause they both suddenly gain muscles?
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Chun-li, Dr. Doom, Super Skrull, and Trish I am having trouble connecting.
Perhaps Chun-Li thinks Dr. Doom reminds her of the guy who killed her father on a Tuesday!
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Hah I was thinking that too. Doom can be Bison. Both are leaders of their own empire/country
Cause they both suddenly gain muscles?
I mean besides Chris' sudden steroids use.
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Hah I was thinking that too. Doom can be Bison. Both are leaders of their own empire/country
That's the best I could come up with!
As for Super Skrull......um.....no idea!
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Hah I was thinking that too. Doom can be Bison. Both are leaders of their own empire/country
But Bison has a much more stable economy!
Bison dollars!
I mean besides Chris' sudden steroids use.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5X68HXEZqWU&feature=related[/youtube]
Maybe it's the weird way they both talk?
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Perhaps Chun-Li thinks Dr. Doom reminds her of the guy who killed her father on a Tuesday!
Doom certainly has those moments. And Latveria's such an awesome place to live.
But seriously, I don't think Spidey's gonna be in the game. He's a big favorite, and they're already scraping the barrel into the niche-favorites. They wouldn't make such a late reveal.
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There better be more. I'm not afraid to say this is a disappointing roster so far if that's the case.
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There is still the New York Comic Con I bet they will reveal more there.
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There is still the New York Comic Con I bet they will reveal more there.
That would be a more fitting place to reveal our beloved Web-Slinger!
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There better be more. I'm not afraid to say this is a disappointing roster so far if that's the case.
Are we at 30+ yet? If not then there's still plenty more to go.
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Regarding Hulk and Chris:
Hulk throws boulders, Chris punches boulders. There you go.
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Why hasnt Capcom announced a Mega Man yet? weird.
I sure hope it's X
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http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/1238005_1124.html
'sup bitches.
(http://www.famitsu.com/image/10281/Sn4lSn72Nno6S2DyBbbeXZX6w8ggRuZQ.jpg)
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[tornado fang] yeah, Strider and Spidey.
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Wow. Well, either they were still in legal trouble when they announced and were biding their time, or they really have no clue how to market this thing.
I'm happier for it, though. More Spidey's good! And Strider, [tornado fang] yeah.
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So...how many charas will there be in total? More than in MvC 2?
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No chance in hell for that. 30+ characters is what they said.
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We don't know, but it has been confirmed that the character select screen we've seen is not the completed one, and that the number of character slots on it doesn't represent the final number.
The original image I posted a few weeks ago had exactly 30 spots, so we at least know that's the minimum.
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...wait, that's the MvC2 TE stick, damn, no Strider or Spidey yet then =(
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...wait, that's the MvC2 TE stick, damn, no Strider or Spidey yet then =(
Ah, so still no confirmation. I'm actually happy. If they announce Spider-Man, it's gonna be bigtime, not just in a small image like this.
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Too lazy to re check if anyone mentioned it yet, but Back in the Capcom Unity stream from Comicon Niitsuma confirmed that no Cyberbots characters are in this. So there's Jin.
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Or maybe it's SHADE
(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080924042930/capcomdatabase/images/c/c9/CyberbotsSHADE.png)
Just kidding
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I'm very dissapointed that we just got Shulk from the Marvel side as a female. No Sue? No Jan? No Jessica? No Felicia? No Emma? No Anna?
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Wait, wut?
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Where's She-Hulk? =o
...I'mma be mad if she gets in over Daredevil and Phoenix Wright. That'd make an epic attorney trio right there.
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Where's She-Hulk? =o
...I'mma be mad if she gets in over Daredevil and Phoenix Wright. That'd make an epic attorney trio right there.
Sorry but Blind man, and Lawyer man isnt gonna be in the game.
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You mean Kesha and Phoenix? (think that's his name)
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Sorry but Blind man, and Lawyer man isnt gonna be in the game.
...they're both lawyers.
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Actually so is/was She-Hulk. I miss her comic and I hope she is in the game, I would love another character that breaks the 4th wall.
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Good new:
(http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/3359/scanld.png)
Guess who?
It's Sliver Suffer :D
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It's Sliver Suffer :D
Aaah he will make people suffer from his silvery crotch!
I didn't expect him.
Capcom should announce Joe already.
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Sliver Suffer vs Seth, anyone >0<?
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He'll only be worth it if he can summon Galactus to eat your ass.
..Holy [parasitic bomb], what if Galactus is a BOSS?
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..Holy [parasitic bomb], what if Galactus is a BOSS?
That would be big news!
Dohohoho!
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Yes, Galactus is also confirm as the final boss, & Dormamu is playable character.
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Yes, Galactus is also confirm as the final boss, & Dormamu is playable character.
Really?
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Here the link:
http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2010/jul/29/silver-surfer-marvel-vs-capcom-3/ (http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2010/jul/29/silver-surfer-marvel-vs-capcom-3/)
Galactus, here i come to kick your big @$$ >0<
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Oh nice.
I would have said Doom is the final boss, but he's already playable.
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YES. SILVER SURFER, HELL YES.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v502/Ashurahori/1280287971432.jpg)
At least ONE of these guys made it in. And I guess Super-Skrull is cosmic too. I just hope there's the possibility of DLC.
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YES. SILVER SURFER, HELL YES.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v502/Ashurahori/1280287971432.jpg)
At least ONE of these guys made it in. And I guess Super-Skrull is cosmic too. I just hope there's the possibility of DLC.
Galactus Engine, mother [tornado fang]er
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(http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/3359/scanld.png)
gasp~ o:
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Good news about the character roster, they make 42 character this time.
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Silver Surfer? Are they replacing Ice Man with another Godmodder?
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ICE BEAM!
But [tornado fang] yeah, the Surfer looks awesome. It'd be great if he had a Planet Hulk alternate costume.
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I don't think that Silver Surfer is confirmed. Unless we see him in action, then it is a rumor.
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I dunno. It's pretty hard to argue with that picture.
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(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/silversurfer.gif)
http://www.rockmanpm.com/player/player.swf?file=http://www.rockmanpm.com/lol/silversurfer.mp3
I'm happy~ XD
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EVERYONE! SILVER SURFER IS A HOAX!
(http://s4.postimage.org/5HuHS.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aV5HuHS)
(http://s3.postimage.org/kdm0i.png) (http://www.postimage.org/)
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Way to make me look dumb.
But that doesn't mean he's not in. Could it be just a placeholder picture?
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How do you know it was hoax? Look at Viewtiful Joe & Frank West's silhouette pose, they might semi-confirmed but the pose was same ::)
I don't see the resemblance you're implying. The Silver Surfer's head is facing a completely different way on the deviant pic. Yes it is a similar art style, but I'm sorry to say, it's a common style and you could probably find another several Silver Surfer images like that one.
It still doesn't explain the magazine scan. There were only 3 character boxes, 1 for each of the 3 F4 characters. If someone had edited a Silver Surfer pic into a scan about the Comic-con reveals then there would be 4 boxes in total.
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someone doesn't know [parasitic bomb] about image editing
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someone doesn't know [parasitic bomb] about image editing
Of course i know it's image editing but the problem is the picture still hasn't be proven fake yet. And "interview" somehow real to me (not just me, even Gamefaqs, Capcom Unity trying digging this rumor but Capcom Unity never banned about this source if someone already banned because this source). Remember the source about Dante, C.America, Felicia & Deadpool's screeshot was never shown in offical artwork until E3 show them real artwork?
Like this:
(http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/2255/gimvc3.jpg)
Felicia & Dante screenshot was taking from any poster or fanart before they show up. Let keep this rumor before Nitsuuma confim it..I hope.
Anyway, source about character:
http://www.siliconera.com/2010/07/30/marvel-vs-capcom-3-interview-covers-character-selection-and-game-balance/ (http://www.siliconera.com/2010/07/30/marvel-vs-capcom-3-interview-covers-character-selection-and-game-balance/)
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So ladies and gents, until top brass says so, there maybe be hope.
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Here is a post on Eventhubs i found interesting.
Our friend CAW Evolution claimed that it was a hoax. While that can still be true check this out.
Just somethin' to pass along about the artist who did the supposed "hoax" Silver Surfer image...The artist's name is Espen Grundetjern. He has the SS pic on his deviantart, oh and...HE'S WORKED WITH MARVEL AND UDON BEFORE:http://www.comicvine.com/espen-grunde...LOL Check into things a bit more before ya scream "ZOMG IT'S A FAKE!"Seriously, has ANYONE from Capcom talked about the artist for MvC3?It IS possible he has done some or is doing all the "official" character art for the game.The Silver Surfer pic is either just something they chose he had previously done as it is one of if not his Most viewed pic On deviantart, or they needed somethin' to throw on that panel with Doom and Skrull. It isn't impossible for an artist to draw the same picture twice.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7zf2bYvj6s
Didn't see this posted anywhere here, so...
Cap's theme sounds pretty boss.
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I like Iron Man's theme. Sounds snazzy.
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The TatsuCap Ryu theme is so much better, I think. Otherwise though, not bad.
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The TatsuCap Ryu theme is so much better,
Nothing beats the SNES version though
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Cap's theme
>Looks under frequent videos watched
>see's MvC3's Comic-Con Panel listed
>Skips to 43:04 just to hear the themes
>8D
The TatsuCap Ryu theme is so much better, I think. Otherwise though, not bad.
I agree.
Nothing beats the SNES version though
I agree to this too.
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Nothing beats the SNES version though
Very few pieces of any music beat the SNES version of anything.
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Captain America's :O
Iron Man's owob
Ryu's -AC
Chun Li's 0v0
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Nothing beats the CPS1 version though
Fixed. If you're going to go old-school, you might as well go for arcade verbatim perfection.
But yeah, Yoko Shimomura FTW. owob
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Capcom to show off new characters at Games Com as reported by CapcomEuro's Tweet.
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Fixed.
Hmmm
Nothing beats the SNES version though
Nope. Sorry. I like it better this way.
Also:
Capcom to show off new characters at Games Com as reported by CapcomEuro's Tweet.
Will Capcom have a livestream or blog?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7zf2bYvj6s
Didn't see this posted anywhere here, so...
Cap's theme sounds pretty boss.
OHHHH MYYYY GOODNESSS, SOOOO PROO!!!
Will Capcom have a livestream or blog?
Did not say but will let know if a tweet about it is posted.
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Dormammu and Viewtiful Joe confirmed for this game!
Was posted only minutes ago.
Source (http://www.capcom-europe.com/blog/2010/08/dormammu-and-viewtiful-joe-for-marvel-vs-capcom-3/)
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During Comic Con then had posted a comic page with them on it. It was mainly silhouettes but you can tell it was Dormy and Joe. Either way nice to hear more about it.
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Yeah, I know. But now it's 100% OFFICIAL! OoOoOoOoO! :P
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I need to know how MegaMan is going to be represented. The wait for that announcement is killing me.
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You'd think they would have made it by now.
Capcom sure knows how to string us along, don't they?
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http://kotaku.com/5615555/two-more-join-cast-of-marvel-vs-capcom-3 (http://kotaku.com/5615555/two-more-join-cast-of-marvel-vs-capcom-3)
Screens of Dormy and Joe
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I need to know how MegaMan is going to be represented. The wait for that announcement is killing me.
The ultimate troll is that it's Geo or whatever his name is from the Starforce games.
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:| ...and I thought that Dormammu was the final boss.
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They already said that the Final Boss would be a "classic that many people would remember, and be thrilled to see". Dormy doesn't quite match up to that kind of clout. Until I see evidence to the contrary, I'm still expecting the likes of Dark Phoenix or Galactus. They're pretty much the only ones that could live up to such a claim.
The ultimate troll is that it's Geo or whatever his name is from the Starforce games.
Nah. With the way that this game has been rather shamelessly utilizing assets from TvC, Trigger is pretty much a lock. Whatever helps save "Nii-san" and his crew some work, I guess...
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I need to know how MegaMan is going to be represented. The wait for that announcement is killing me.
Rumors say that a character(s) from the MegaMan franchise will be shown at TGS.
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I need to know how MegaMan is going to be represented. The wait for that announcement is killing me.
Haha, seriously.
Rumors say that a character(s) from the MegaMan franchise will be shown at TGS.
Really? lets all cross our fingers for our favorite Megaman...
Although given its MvC, I would be more surprised if it isnt Classic Rock.
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Come on classic!
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Really, I would go for using a MegaMan they haven't used yet. Namely, X, a BioMetal, or Geo Stellar & Omega-XI's.
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I want X. Classic has had his spotlight. So has EXE Zero series Zero, and X series Zero. X deserves some love.
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and hey, it's not an X game, so PB will play this if he needs to be unlocked! 8D
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Geo Stellar & Omega-XI's.
NO.
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I know you hate SF with passion, but you've gotta admit that there's potential for a good movelist there.
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NO simply on account of how stupidly gay those names are. At least EXE's localization wasn't as retarded with the main characters name.
I have true faith in the belief that all Capcom US staff members were at one point raped by rocks, or at least small pebbles that evolved in to Rocks.
Games needs Sigma. With his Captain America form from X3, and Wolverine form from X2.
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Not only that, but you spelled them wrong, Geekgo.
Still, they won't go with SS Rockman. EXE would be nice, but I doubt they'd do that. It's either gonna be Volnutt or Zero, I'm sure. Maybe both.
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We really DO need Sigma. Though Id like to see his X1 form.
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YOU KNOW, IT WILL TOTALLY BE AXL. DURR HURR HURR.
Actually, I think it should be Blues and X. Two characters that haven't been in an official Vs. game yet.
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EXE would be nice, but I doubt they'd do that.
He had his spotlight in Onimusha Blade Warriors. >.>
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It would be cool if the MM characters were Rock, Roll, and Blues and that way maybe they could have their own intro like the Avengers do.
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Dormammu gameplay:
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gc-10-marvel-vs/703268
(His theme sounds extremely Sigma-ish)
Joe gameplay:
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gc-10-marvel-vs/703270
New roster trailer:
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gc-10-marvel-vs/703266
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It would be cool if the MM characters were Rock, Roll, and Blues and that way maybe they could have their own intro like the Avengers do.
NO.
Megaman X
Roll Casket
Megaman Zero
Proto Man
Forte EXE
Ground Man
Time Man
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Yeah, they're not going to put RMs in, especially not those two.
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I honestly dislike RMZ Zero in fighting games. I dont know why. I just prefer regular Zero.
And I SERIOUSLY doubt Roll Casket would be there. Trigger if anyone.
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And definitely not Bass.EXE.
In fact, the only good choices in your list are X and Blues.
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I CAN STILL DREAM. ;O;
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There is that, but no need to say NO to someone else's wants.
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There is that, but no need to say NO to someone else's wants.
And definitely not Bass.EXE.
In fact, the only good choices in your list are X and Blues.
DERP
Anyway, Viewtiful Joe returns, eh? Sounds pretty good. I'm looking at an Ammy/Deadpool/Joe team right now.
Guess I oughta update my own wants here soon.
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I'm being realistic. I know what they will choose, and the only reasons I said those were good is because I said them earlier. :P
All he did was say NO. and gave a list.
Wait, why am I defending myself here? I was trying to be nice, he just said NO without reasoning.
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Sooooo ladies and gents, rather then going berzerk mode on who should be in MvC3, why not be good little kids and wait when the a-holes of Capcom will introduce em' to us yea?
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Joe (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2DFl4mEgJs)
Dormanmu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDXsuOaCkxo&feature=channel)
Apparently they sped Desperado up to the point where he can use it in air combos, and Dormanmu seems to love OTGs.
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I think Dormanmu took BlackHeart's place.
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Posted them already. YOU WOULD HAVE KNOWN IF PEOPLE PAID ATTENTION.
Oh well maybe the thread can continue now.
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Joe sounds great. His theme doesn't, though.
Sooooo ladies and gents, rather then going berzerk mode on who should be in MvC3, why not be good little kids and wait when the a-holes of Capcom will introduce em' to us yea?
You really don't know how the internet works, do you?
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According to you: NO
According to me: Can care less how its suposto work. XD
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Ok, so we have Joe, Amaterasu but absolutely NO God Hand representation?
BS, developers. BS. Gene, Azel and/or Elvis are practically tailor-made for a game like this.
Don't get me wrong, this game's still an insta-buy for me, but the last Clover game not getting a nod makes a me a sad panda :(
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It sucks that certain series are not in the game but no Rival Schools or Powerstone??? These are actual fighting games, hell Batsu was in TvsC so I am shocked and kinda annoyed that Rival Schools isn't gonna be in the game. Still going to buy this thing day one though,
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It seems like Dormammu has Dethroned Magneto as main Marvel Villian
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It seems like Dormammu has Dethroned Magneto as main Marvel Villian
Anihilus woulda wiped his ass with both of them.
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It sucks that certain series are not in the game but no Rival Schools or Powerstone??? These are actual fighting games, hell Batsu was in TvsC so I am shocked and kinda annoyed that Rival Schools isn't gonna be in the game. Still going to buy this thing day one though,
You do know that if Rouge was in the game, and her CUM ON YOUR CEREAL super was broken........you'd probably half to beat me senseless. Or someone at Capcom! XD
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You do know that if Rouge was in the game, and her CUM ON YOUR CEREAL super was broken........you'd probably half to beat me senseless. Or someone at Capcom! XD
I thought about that......then I I was like "That IS what she says!!!!!" I busted a gut to that one! xDDDDD
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I thought about that......then I I was like "That IS what she says!!!!!" I busted a gut to that one! xDDDDD
You know how I love to make you laugh! 8)
You know, I still want Iceman & Firestar in this game, or at least downloadable later, so I can make my Spider-Friends team. Or at least Nova & Firestar so I can get a New Warriors team going.
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Was this posted already?
[youtube]tx2lEGYQbbw[/youtube]
Amaterasu is top tier.
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It sucks that certain series are not in the game but no Rival Schools or Powerstone??? These are actual fighting games, hell Batsu was in TvsC so I am shocked and kinda annoyed that Rival Schools isn't gonna be in the game. Still going to buy this thing day one though,
They again, crossovers with Marvel Comics, Tatsunoko Productions, and Namco Bandai tends to be a bit more hectic, wild, and whacked-out. These crossovers tend top go all out with many genres, and not try to be just a simple, typical fighting game. The Marvel fighters alreadly feature high jumping and insane, DBZ-like Supers and Hypers. Their in a league of their own and that why Capsule Computers believes that typical fighters just won't do for this.
...or, either Capsule Computers just don't care about their lesser franchises, or they believe the mainstream(yeah, their fighters are becoming more casual) would not understand or just go "WTF?" at obscure characters from series they probably never heard of. I mean, how many mainstream Capsule Computers fan you know have ever heard of words, "GOD HAND?"
Theonly time Capsule Computers would ever showcase characters from fighters and brawalers(Final Fight, Captain Commando, etc.) is when they crossover with Shin Nihon Kikaku Playmore, Who knows more about fighters than their...uh, "rival." And unlike Capsule Computers, Shin Nihon Kikaku does not neglect their lesser series. Unfortunately, Shin Nihon Kikaku don't go manistream. Well, not that greatly.
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Every Megaman X Fan's dream
(http://s3.postimage.org/RQyKJ.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=PqRQyKJ)
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NO ROCK FOR YOU, YOU'LL ZERO GET AGAIN AND LIKE IT IN AN UNSATISFACTORY FASHION!
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But I liked beating noobs with Zero and Volnutt
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I So want X in there. Bout time he got some fighting game recognition...
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Someone on PC made that (along with Rock, Roll, Blues, and Aqua from Birth by Sleep)... pretty cool.
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I also wonder if Captian Comando is going to be in there was well, they got America in there, hope he does as well.
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Bad news guys:
Captain Commando deconfirmed ;O;
Why Captain Commando was deconfirmed? Because of this:
http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2010/aug/28/silhouette-image-shows-c-viper-marvel-vs-capcom-3/#comments
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Ummm, rly? Or you trying to be funny? XD, Well, Frank West, ummm, hope he doesn't have the same hypers as TvC3 cuze if he does, well, more of a slim chance Classic MM or MMX showing up. :/
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Bad news guys:
Captain Commando deconfirmed ;O;
Why Captain Commando was deconfirmed? Because of this:
http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2010/aug/28/silhouette-image-shows-c-viper-marvel-vs-capcom-3/#comments
Yep. I admit that my hype went down further from things like this. Not only are we standing to get ANOTHER Street Fighter, who's been in ANOTHER RECENT GAME, we're getting some one who stands to usurp the good Captain himself, who stands as a direct representation of Capcom's history (and was a bad-ass character).
Hype deflated some more. Gundam Extreme Vs. is the only "Capcom Vs." game that's worth my hype now, apparently... -u-'
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Like it or not Ben it makes a lot of sense. SF4 representative for that extra advertising with the moveset that requires the least changes to make it work in a VS game? Seems like a no brainer to me. The real tragedy though, as you said, is the whole Viper pretty much being a female CapCom makes it less likely for him to appear >_>
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That's....that's....rather..gay, dang, tha hell Capcom, its like you wanna [acid burst] off fans.
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Like it or not Ben it makes a lot of sense. SF4 representative for that extra advertising with the moveset that requires the least changes to make it work in a VS game? Seems like a no brainer to me. The real tragedy though, as you said, is the whole Viper pretty much being a female CapCom makes it less likely for him to appear >_>
The thing still is though, that for all that the "new" characters in MvC3 have to be made from the ground up, among that number they went with...another character that's already in another fighting game. And a RECENT game, at that. 8D
It'd be one thing if we were still back in the CPS2/Naomi era, and we're still talking about sprite re-usage from a previous game that can be used to help fill up a game's roster in a fairly inexpensive way that allows for the development team to focus on all new characters. But what we're talking about right here, basically boils down to how Niitsuma and his crew went out of their way to craft a new Viper model specifically for this game.
There's something seriously wrong with that picture, as far as I'm concerned. Even if Niitsuma's "mission statement" for how this wasn't going to be another retro-revival like past MAHVEL games was true, there's plenty of fodder from the PSX/PS2/GBA eras that's begging for exposure. And yet...they already went and de-confirmed the likes of Gene (God Hand), and we're looking at ANOTHER Street Fighter character instead (with Alex likely showing up again, nonetheless). -u-'
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As long as the number of SF characters is not excessive I won't mind. Sure, I would've prefered it to remain as just Ryu and Chun like in TvC, but what can we do, we know this is as much of an advertisement for their current games/series as it is fanservice.
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How DARE you forget Alex. I oughta smack you.
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D'oh, allow me to do it myself. *hits head against wall*
...wait no, I meant that since Alex is not in MvC3 yet x___X
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Doesn't make sense. Quit shooting yourself in the foot.
If this Viper thing is true, I don't really have a problem with it. But if they really want to advertise the SFIV line, I think Juri would've been a better choice.
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They're really pushing C.Viper as a character lately, huh? They haven't promoted the other SF4 characters so much, and for her, she was the first to be revealed of the SF4 new characters, and I think she got her own figure and promotional material before others.
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Doesn't make sense. Quit shooting yourself in the foot.
The problem is the "like in TvC" part I wrote, shouldn't have done that.
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Exactly. But the damage has been done.
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I sense Capcom is neither pervert, lazy or else but C.Viper? My spider sense tingling that tell me Capcom side is gonna be unbalanced but let's talk about C.Viper:
- Captain Commando was deconfirmed because of C.Viper's moveset
- Captain Commando have his own assist character like Hoover, Sho & Jennety but C.Viper doesn't
- Captain Commando is finally nailed his coffin? C.Viper will take his place until another new vs series?
- Call me an idiot but does Capcom really take C.Viper for sake timing to create Captain Commando's model because it's easy copy & paste?
- If C.Viper is in, that mean more SF character because M.Bison was hinted by Frank Tieri
- Who is C.Viper's rival anyway?
- Enough woman character, is this like Capcom having 4 man & 28 woman.
- I sense C.Viper's model was taking from SSFIV
- No Cammy love? I think
You can call me an C.Viper hater but mark my word, i hope Capcom need build 46 character not 36.
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Jeez. Viper is still a rumor, so CapCom may still have a chance.
- Enough woman character, is this like Capcom having 4 man & 28 woman.
Dude, only 4 women have been shown so far. And all of them were Capcom ladies. If you're going to be sexist, check your facts first.
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Jeez. Viper is still a rumor, so CapCom may still have a chance.
Dude, only 4 women have been shown so far. And all of them were Capcom ladies. If you're going to be sexist, check your facts first.
You missed five woman:
Chun-Li
Morrigan
Felicia
Ammy
Trish
And C.Viper was almost 99% & 1& confirm or not, i'm soory about 4 men & 28 woman because i don't want make Capcom side become lame & utterly.
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Oops forgot Felicia. Well I wouldn't be the first. She was the only one unplayed at EVO.
And your argument and math still don't make any sense. It's only 5 women in a game that's shown 18 so far. Even if Viper is confirmed, that's still barely a third that's female. FAR away from your suggestion of 7 to 1. This isn't Dead or Alive. There's a decent ratio of men to women, and Capcom is pretty good at keeping this ratio in its games. I imagine MvC3 to keep it that way.
So quit whining over something that isn't happening.
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Something that isn't happening, YET! XD
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You know I didn't even realize they didn't have any marvel women in it yet. I wonder who they would use. To be honest I would love to see She-Hulk and maybe she can break the forth wall also. Other leading ladies I would like to see without using repeats would be Black Cat, Black Widow, Jean Grey, Ms. Marvel, Arana, Nomad, Domino, oh and we can't forget Aunt May.
Since you guys mentioned Captain Commando it gave me an idea for another Marvel character, Corsair. It would be cool to see him summon the Starjammers during combat.
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Marvel- Villians
Capcom- Females
:cookie: plz
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So far i realise some MvC3 roster almost look identical from MvC2 roster (since i already notice) but not just about the character , even same moveset for each character, for example:
Blackheart - Dormamu
These guys almost same identical moveset (Projectile spammer). So it could like this:
Those character had been confirmed by bringing back from MvC2 roster:
Ryu
Chun-Li
Morrigan
Felicia
Wolverine
Ironman
Hulk
Captain America
Dr.Doom
Spiderman (not confirm yet but he tottaly in)
Those character are unconfirm from MvC2 will be transfer to new character:
Blackheart - Dormamu (projectile spammer)
Dhalsim - Super Skrull (Rubber guy, teleporting, fire element)
Tron Bonne - Volnutt (Drill attack)
Cable - Chris Redfield (Too many weapon)
Jill Valentime - Frank West (Zombie summon)
Captain Commando - Crimson Viper (same identical moveset)
The clone (same identical moveset) character will be not in MVC3:
Ken
Akuma
Dan
Sakura
Wolverine Bone Claw
War Machine
Charlie OR Guile - depend which character you choose
Some character not confrim yet but it will replace new or bringing back if moveset, character design or special ability look same:
Storm - Thor (it's unknown if Storm is really confirm by Seth but bringing two electric character with the same time, depend on it)
B.B Hood - Deadpool (Both are "best joke" character but Deadpool's moveset same as B.B Hood does like bomb, gun, sword but with crazy attitude XD)
Sentinel - PTX from Lost Planet (I hate to say this but it seem giant character are not gonna be in this game. The problem is Sentinel, Sentinel doesn't same PTX height state, maybe Bloodia could make it?)
Sliver Samurai - Soki or Date Masamune (It make sense if Sliver Samurai wasn't confirm but replace with "new" samurai character, depend if Soki return as TvC model or Date Masamune as the new character)
Zangief - Alex (If Zangief was deconfirmed, maybe Alex take his spotlight but bring Alex's TvC model is like completely lazy (If they create new moveset), MvC3 need grapler character)
Servbot - Viewtiful Joe (It doesn't make sense somehow, just because they look small body but big head?)
Cyclops - Ryu (I don't know why Nitsuma rule out Cyclops, maybe Cyclops same Ryu does? Why not change another moveset, geez ~_~)
Some character that i don't know if same moveset or character design, there will be replace or return, here the list:
Cammy
M.Bison
Megaman
Roll
Anakaris
Hayato
Jin
Strider
Amingo (deconfirmed)
Ruby Heart (deconfirmed)
Sonson (deconfirmed)
Venom
Magneto
Rogue
Gambit
Marrow
Spiral
Thanos
Shuma Gorath
Colossus
Iceman
Juggernaut
Sabretooth
Psylocke
Omega Red
BTW as for Cable, i say Chris might replace for him, but what about Saki from TvC? Chris don't have Viper beam but Saki does?
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Magneto + BlackHeart = Dormammu
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Magneto + BlackHeart = Dormammu
naaahhhh, just BlackHeart = Dormammu.
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Morrigan can Magnetic Shockwave now. 8D
If you think im lying, check out her 2nd Hyper combo
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The super where she summons Lilith out of the ground? She has had that for awhile
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Megaman X was deconfirmed by Seth Killian.
Thousands of trolls celebrate while fans cry
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Wish I could say I was surprised. But everything pointed to that they were basically going to recycle as much from TvC as possible any way. So of course, that meant Volnutt and Zero again.
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Or stick to classic Rock like MVC 1 and 2.
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Or they can add Megaman EXE and make everyone happy! owob
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BBAMM for MvC3.
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Or they can add Megaman EXE and make everyone happy! owob
I dont think that would make people happy.
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I dont think that would make people happy.
Have you played Onimusha: Blade Warriors?
You could use different styles, homing charge shot and slice with a Sword chip. ^^;
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Well, it'd make more people happy than if it was Subaru though, but that's still not everyone. I WOULD like that though, EXE and SS Rock have some really nice potential for awesome movesets what with all their chips/cars and transformations. For example, for his lv3 Subaru can Tribe On to Berserk and use his Thunderbolt Blade, then Double Tribe with Shinobi/Dinosaur and use their special attack, and finish it with Tribe King and its Kaiser Delta Breaker (or if he's the only remaining member of his team he could do stuff with Rogue tribe/noise); EXE could do something with Beast Out or the Master Style PA, or even a temporary power up with Saito/Hub.bat or something.
Have you played Onimusha: Blade Warriors?
You could use different styles, homing charge shot and slice with a Sword chip. ^^;
I think his point is that it won't make people happy because many people hate EXE/SS series with passion.
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EXE? Hated?! O:<
List of popular list is popular list
1- Classic owob
2- X <3
3- EXE bVd
4- Zero :o
5- Legends [objection!]
6- ZX >8|
7- Star Force -AC
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Actually it depends how they work ZX. If you can use him like Ryu from MvsC 1 it might be cool. He should be able to switch between Model X, Z, and ZX and give eat style a different super.
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(http://timewarpgamer.com/images/nes/mega_man2/mega_man2_box_eu.jpg)
I want my shiny C3PO Megaman.
Silly people calling Steve "Bad Box Art Megaman" have no idea what to call the other boxart Megamans.
So I shall name this one Bob.
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1- Classic
2- Legends
3- X
4- Zero
5- EXE
6- ZX
7- Star Force
fixed that or you. X and Legends and Zero are interchangeable.
EXE, ZX and SF are aomong the ones not as popular. Granted, many prefer EXE over SF, but that doesnt mean everybody likes it.
Posted on: September 06, 2010, 09:20:21 AM
Also, relevant
(http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/249/f/7/capcom_andate_a_la_chucha_by_soul_rokkuman-d2y4lv7.jpg)
http://soul-rokkuman.deviantart.com/
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I figured they might go with how they handled in TvC.
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But if we dont want Copy Pasta Volnutt or Veteran Rock, we can do the Megaman EXE route!
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And out of nowhere Steve BBAMM will be confirmed as a playable chara!
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That will be a sad day for me.
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Why does Capcom hate us so?
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Not us...just X
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But if we dont want Copy Pasta Volnutt or Veteran Rock, we can do the Megaman EXE route!
I honestly have nothing against EXE, but I just dont like the idea.
Posted on: September 06, 2010, 03:06:24 PM
also, Moogy Man Zorro from the MMN oekaki said it best still, I think.
(http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/8818/opa631.png)
"oh hey there mega-buddy happy 22nd birthday just saw your party it's so cool you're getting a new game though i hear i'm not getting a game because papa is too busy with other things to hang out with me but its alright mega-bro you're the oldest you're more important....
...more...
...important..."
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Capcom kinda confirmed THIS: O^O
[spoiler]Pheonix Wright and Megaman X and other fan favorites as....... D.L.C![/spoiler]
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Not a big surprise...cash milkers
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Capcom kinda confirmed THIS: O^O
[spoiler]Pheonix Wright and Megaman X and other fan favorites as....... D.L.C![/spoiler]
Not that I'm at all concerned at this point, but provide a source or it didn't happen.
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YUP! YUP! reading is believing! No need for false hopes!
EDIT: ummm, we probly know this already but,
Rumored details
- Nitsuma said that there will be an X rep, so Zero will most likely be in the game
- Seth Killian said X fans would be happy"
http://shoryuken.com/content/1652-seth-deconfirms-megaman-x-mvc3-pax-unity-live-stream/comments2.html
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Not that I'm at all concerned at this point, but provide a source or it didn't happen.
Capcom Unity is where I get all my stuff.
"Unfortunately, the ship has mostly sailed on the character request but who knows, you know, there's DLC and hopefully, we'll have a chance to do some more fighters someday soooo... we'll finally get em all in there".
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SIGMA FOR MVC3!
Also, that's pure speculation so far, Perfectedidiot. X could go in, but it's not confirmed at all. Just the fact that there will be DLC chars.
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"Pure speculation" is a fun thing to play around with. :D
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Oh it is. But it's also not "kinda confirmed" when there's no names.
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Yea, "hopefully" is like pipe dreams until, even at all, rly do add him as an DLC char. Or Sigma. XD
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SIGMA FOR MVC3!
owob <3 :cookie:
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A new trailer apperantlly.
http://bit.ly/bzlPkk
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Why is Tron Bonne there? I thought she wasn't gonna be in it?
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And who said she wasn't?
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And who said she wasn't?
Everybody, when the screens of her being a background character first showed up on the net.
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And like I said back then, it was the same case with Spiderman in a previous VS game and there's also Yang in Yun's 3S bg. It lowered her chances sure, but that's not an outright decomfirmation.
Anyways, just watched the whole trailer, oh man, I loved the Clover team up XD
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Well, the game IS still in production...so stuff can happen. XD
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She'll probably just leave the background. Capcom's good about their background elements. See, Spiderman in Marvel Superheroes vs. Capcom, Yatterwan during Yatterman's supers in the workshop stage in TvC...
This isn't Smash Bros, after all.
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Can't wait to see what they have at TGS. X)
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People were getting REALLY EXCITED about Captain America parrying a helicopter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DjhUckLcIY#t=1m15s).
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...That trailer is indeed full of awesome
*Trish bike-fuing Doom
*Captain America vs the copter
*Tron vs Super Skrull
*Joe RIDDING Amy(!)
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:'( Sigh
Listen everyone, i hate to say this:
I love Tron Bonne sice i was a child but it feel kinda......you know...it's not fit somehow, of course she might appear many crosssever series but i feel Capcom side is like pervert side :| But if Tron Bonne is in, does that mean Zero replaced with Axl & Roll replace with Megaman? I hope Capcom don't screw this game. And plz Capcom, do me a favor, if you put another female capcom character again, i say we need bring back 56 character, not 36, or just 42 character, thats all.
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:'( Sigh
Listen everyone, i hate to say this:
I love Tron Bonne sice i was a child but it feel kinda......you know...it's not fit somehow, of course she might appear many crosssever series but i feel Capcom side is like pervert side :| But if Tron Bonne is in, does that mean Zero replaced with Axl & Roll replace with Megaman? I hope Capcom don't screw this game. And plz Capcom, do me a favor, if you put another female capcom character again, i say we need bring back 56 character, not 36, or just 42 character, thats all.
What the [tornado fang] did I just read?
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What.
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..Apparently he doesn´t like women...
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..Apparently he doesn´t like women...
Listen, i like female character too '>.> but it would innapproriate to many female in capcom side, while C.Viper & B.B Hood have hinted this game.
I heard Frank West was "almost confirm" in trailer as pilot helicopter &....... since Marvel finally got female character, i would like someone give explanation to me whenther is true or not......is SHE HULK in this game too?
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.....What?.....ummmm,tha heck is this? Capcom is stupid, but don't think that stupid.....up till now..
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Long image is looooong (http://img375.imageshack.us/content_round.php?page=done&l=img375/7839/09mvc3outlines9927463.jpg)
There's speculation that ??? in that image is either She-hulk or Ms. Marvel.
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:'( Sigh
Listen everyone, i hate to say this:
I love Tron Bonne sice i was a child but it feel kinda......you know...it's not fit somehow, of course she might appear many crosssever series but i feel Capcom side is like pervert side :| But if Tron Bonne is in, does that mean Zero replaced with Axl & Roll replace with Megaman? I hope Capcom don't screw this game. And plz Capcom, do me a favor, if you put another female capcom character again, i say we need bring back 56 character, not 36, or just 42 character, thats all.
What the [tornado fang] did I just read?
(http://i887.photobucket.com/albums/ac71/Flame-G102/post%20stuff/whatthefuckamireading.png)
Posted on: September 10, 2010, 12:45:24 PM
Listen, i like female character too '>.> but it would innapproriate to many female in capcom side, while C.Viper & B.B Hood have hinted this game.
I heard Frank West was "almost confirm" in trailer as pilot helicopter &....... since Marvel finally got female character, i would like someone give explanation to me whenther is true or not......is SHE HULK in this game too?
you STILL make no sense BTW.
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Person who is replying and who everyone is criticizing:
Learn how to type normally first, and people will respect you and take your opinions seriously.
The more you know. 8D
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Iron Man <3 Morrigan :3
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Iron Man <3 Morrigan :3
Iron Man :V Every single female ever.
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..Even Amy?
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Long image is looooong (http://img375.imageshack.us/content_round.php?page=done&l=img375/7839/09mvc3outlines9927463.jpg)
There's speculation that ??? in that image is either She-hulk or Ms. Marvel.
It's C. Viper.
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..Even Amy?
(http://images.wizarduniverse.com/WizardUniverse/magazinepics/ironmanspread2.jpg)
EVERYONE.
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Well, the gameplay is looking good so far, but capcom have a twisted sense when it comes to add characters.
I hope the rooster doesnt end up so unfair like in MVC2 where all the old characters were way weaker to the new ones.
On a side note i bet this will be another game where morrigan only has 3 special movements, a dark ilussion that is impossible to chain and no eternal slumber...
Oh, and if zero (from tatsunoko) is not making a come back, [tornado fang] you capcom.
BTW dante looks exactly like in DMC3 thumbs up XD
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I think the game will look a lot more pro, after they add the polish and all that nice stuff. :3
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..Apparently he doesn´t like women...
I don't know about you, putting too much female character is like your favourite gonna die forever & after for example : X! Not to mention C.Viper & B.B Hood hinted here -_-
It's C. Viper.
No, that She-Hulk. Seth give some hint that Marvel side will have overpowered & crazy enough to kill entire roster or If not She-Hulk it would be Ms.Marvel.
Person who is replying and who everyone is criticizing:
Learn how to type normally first, and people will respect you and take your opinions seriously.
(http://i887.photobucket.com/albums/ac71/Flame-G102/post%20stuff/whatthefuckamireading.png)
Posted on: September 10, 2010, 12:45:24 PM
you STILL make no sense BTW.
I hate to say this but Shinichameleon speak the truth, you guys never take seriously how bad going to be, i hope TGS don't screw up some our favourite superhero like Spiderman.
If no Wesker, Zero and Strider here, i say Capcom is really big damn pervert afterall. Speaking about T.Bonne, she my main too, but don't take me seriously on this one, i rather have Volnutt take spotlight on her.
Beside that, i don't want Roll returning in MvC3, just bring Leviathan or Harp Note take spothlight, so we can make deal themselves how bad Roll will never appear.
If Tron Bonne is in, who the heck main character Megaman universe anyway? Classic or Megaman EXE? Hopefully.
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@ Brokenbalance
I don't know why you replace Roll with Harp Note, but something tell me If Harp Note will enter, that mean:
(http://www.allbitgames.com/storage/New-Brutal-Legend-Images.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1258389491459)
GUITAR FIGHT!!!
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Well....there's still 20 something or less characters to be YET shown...
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I hate to say this but Shinichameleon speak the truth, you guys never take seriously how bad going to be, i hope TGS don't screw up some our favourite superhero like Spiderman.
I don't think they're referring to the subject of yours and and Shini's posts. They're referring to the grammar, which is atrocious. Is English not your first language or somethin'? Because your posts read like they were sent through Google's translator.
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Well....there's still 20 something or less characters to be YET shown...
Capcom already create 30 character, count T.Bonne & mysterious woman in marvel side, 10 left slot character, i think.
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Ryu 1
Morrigan 2
Chris 3
Dante 4
Felicia 5
Trish 6
Chun Li 7
Amaterasu 8
Viewtiful Joe 9
Tron Bonne 10
Wolverine 11
Iron Man 12
Savage Hulk 13
Deadpool 14
Captain America 15
Super Skrull 16
Dr. Doom 17
Thor 18
Dormammu 19
NAWT CONFIRYMED
Spider Man 20
Frank West 21
A Megaman 22
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I don't think they're referring to the subject of yours and and Shini's posts. They're referring to the grammar, which is atrocious. Is English not your first language or somethin'? Because your posts read like they were sent through Google's translator.
Yes, my english is broken, i know why people complain about grammar but who cares? Even some Youtube & Gamefaqs user don't care about grammar either, how on earth people to make sure their grammar is perfect? I suggest go to Animesuki site, they are worst grammar either but it turn out become truth while someone never good in english in any manga/game/anime rumor or hint.
Call me an idiot whatever you want, but i don't want fight here.
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Even some Youtube & Gamefaqs user don't care about grammar either
Don't wanna start a fight either even though we're in a fighting game thread, but you do know what the general opinion is on both Youtube comments and Gfaqs forums right?
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Yes, my english is broken, i know why people complain about grammar but who cares? Even some Youtube & Gamefaqs user don't care about grammar either, how on earth people to make sure their grammar is perfect? I suggest go to Animesuki site, they are worst grammar either but it turn out become truth while someone never good in english in any manga/game/anime rumor or hint.
Call me an idiot whatever you want, but i don't want fight here.
Funny you should mention Youtube and Gamefaqs. They are considered the cesspools of the internet, the very worst place in terms of comments, posts and replies.
The fact that you hold those standards makes you an idiot, yes. And you still didn't reply if english was your first language or not. Because if it is, this [parasitic bomb] is inexcuseable.
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Funny you should mention Youtube and Gamefaqs. They are considered the cesspools of the internet, the very worst place in terms of comments, posts and replies.
The fact that you hold those standards makes you an idiot, yes. And you still didn't reply if english was your first language or not. Because if it is, this [parasitic bomb] is inexcuseable.
No.
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I agree with Most Excellent Superbat & taiyou, although my english was broken too but just who are you anyway? Are you the new one here? Because i can see you rank was cyberelf.
Youtube & Gamefaqs is where people trolling whenther haters gonna hate when people will confirm your favourite character or not. Trust me, Gamefaqs was worst i ever expected because there a lot troll people make people quickly angry.
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ummm, maybe his balance wont be so broken after a while? I hope? 8)
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Brokenbalance's English has broken balance.
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Yeah, he won't be coming back. Neither will his alter ego, S/N
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Yeah, he won't be coming back. Neither will his alter ego, S/N
Heheheh. I remember this one forum I was in, where a guy had about three different registered nicknames, and kept worshipping himself all the time. Ah, how times pass.
Back on topic, I'd KILL for playable Hercules or playable Amadeus Cho. That would be the next best thing to having a playable cast of Marvel Cosmic.
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I still want my Spider-Friends team.
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(http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp93/spikespiegel_ngaf/herc136_02.jpg)
Can you imagine the amazing onomatopeias that would occur?
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Onomatopoeia
Now he'd be a fun villain in a DC fighting game.
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I still want my Spider-Friends team.
(http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp93/spikespiegel_ngaf/herc136_02.jpg)
Can you imagine the amazing onomatopeias that would occur?
I'd SO love to see both of your ideas come true.
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Now he'd be a fun villain in a DC fighting game.
Meh. We need no more attention to Batman pissing himself. >_>
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Meh. We need no more attention to Batman pissing himself. >_>
Heh, I consider him more of a Green Arrow villain.
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Heh, I consider him more of a Green Arrow villain.
I've never read his stuff from Green Arrow, but DAMN, I hated his stuff in Batman. Smith wrote it like a [tornado fang]ing fanboy. Widening Gyre surpasses all the fanboy bullshit and goes even deeper into crap, but that's easily explained by Smith saying he's heavily stoned while doing it and can't really remember what he wrote when he wakes up in the morning.
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I thought his run on Green Arrow was pretty good.
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REALLY gotta try Ollie books sometime.
I wish we didn't constantly go back to DC everytime we tried talking about Marvel. =P The improvement of one company's comics over another is astounding, but I almost feel sorry for Marvel's current bullshit.
Anyway, good Marvel... hm... good Marvel...
Well, Greg Pak has taken over the Hulk title in the best way possible, and recently finished the Hulk and Son/World War Hulks arc with one of the best conclusions I've seen in a Hulk story, going past all that "HULK IS MONSTER BUT NOT REALLY" bullshit. I'd really like it if Skaar was a playable character. Teenage long-haired Hulk with a Conan look, plus sword and Earth powers? It's awesome!
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Planet Hulk was excellent, but I really didn't like World War Hulk as much.
Yeah, Skaar would be cool as a playable character. Personally, we need some Lockjaw action to counter Ama!
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Planet Hulk was excellent, but I really didn't like World War Hulk as much.
Yeah, Skaar would be cool as a playable character. Personally, we need some Lockjaw action to counter Ama!
Read Banner & Son and the conclusion to the storyline written by Pak. Hell, just get the single issue that has the Hulk vs Skaar battle. It's awesome, and it's taking the Hulk concept alot further than the current bullshit spawned by Loeb.
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Ahhhh Loeb! It's so sad.
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Expect Megaman EXE or Classic, Spider Man, and Frank West Tomorrow
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So, Capcom JP's twitter confirms this character...
(http://www.moleculasinestables.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/x-23.jpg)
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So...we go from two Wolverines in MvC2....to now Wolverine and his female clone. 8D
If they were going to go for a "clone" of Wolverine, they could have at least used his much more interesting son, Daken.
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Actually I think the majority of comic readers hate Daken now.
I've always liked X-23 though. Nice shout out to the somewhat underrated X-Men: Evolution show.
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So, Capcom JP's twitter confirms this character...
(http://www.moleculasinestables.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/x-23.jpg)
DAT X-23
So...we go from two Wolverines in MvC2....to now Wolverine and his female clone. 8D
8D
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I don't read comics Ben, so at least from just looking at them I'd have to strongly disagree (feet claws could be interesting XD). How about you try to convince why Daken would be better? I seriously don't know much about either of the two, so I'd kinda appreciate the comparison.
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oESQv9cB0qQ[/youtube]
Posted on: September 16, 2010, 12:12:33 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_uUq3bf4EQ[/youtube]
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I'm liking what I see.
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Not a bad theme either.
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I don't read comics Ben, so at least from just looking at them I'd have to strongly disagree (feet claws could be interesting XD). How about you try to convince why Daken would be better? I seriously don't know much about either of the two, so I'd kinda appreciate the comparison.
While both are basically two different answers on how to do another take on the "Wolverine" character, I just always thought Daken was more interesting, by virtue of the fact that he's an amoral, cavalier antithesis to Logan. On the other hand, X-23 just basically came off to me as the "Sakura" to Wolverine's "Ryu", in that she does a lot to repeat a number of the same things of her predecessor, just in a different context.
Perhaps things have changed since I last "checked in", but that's what I got.
Any way, nice to see Tron (re)-confirmed, I suppose. I wonder if that's a different voice actor from before...
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Hey, a Marvel female, whaddayano. Now we're just waiting on a Capcom villain.
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Now I have to main Tron for the theme itself.
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhpGQgtHfNg[/youtube]
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I think the voice actress for X-23 is the same one from X-Men: Evolution.
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Hey, a Marvel female, whaddayano. Now we're just waiting on a Capcom villain.
Don't worry. I'm sure Wesker will likely be shown off sooner or later...
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Now I have to main Tron for the theme itself.
The US version doesn't have the theme.
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The US version doesn't have the theme.
you need to die.
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you need to die.
I didn't NOT put the theme in.
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I just noticed Tron throwing some boulders in the gameplay trailer. This is a good day for Chris fans.
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Actually I think the majority of comic readers hate Daken now.
I've always liked X-23 though. Nice shout out to the somewhat underrated X-Men: Evolution show.
You kidding? In most comic forums I've seen, Daken's noted as the superior Wolverine.
And I also like X-23, but to everyone who does, I can't help she has more looks than personality going for her. 8D
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Still no Mega Man of some form.
I would argue for DMC3's Vergil, but Trish kind of clinched the position for a second DMC rep.
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I like her very much. :3
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You kidding? In most comic forums I've seen, Daken's noted as the superior Wolverine.
And I also like X-23, but to everyone who does, I can't help she has more looks than personality going for her. 8D
From what I've seen, he was, but lately he's been written badly.
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I used to like Daken. I don't like him anymore. I stopped collecting Dark Wolverine after he started fighting Franken Castle.... Ugh Franken Castle.
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From what I've seen, he was, but lately he's been written badly.
I don't read alot of Marvel, but his stay aboard the Dark Avengers was pretty damn sweet.
PISSING OFF BULLSEYE
KISSING HIM NEXT
8D
I used to like Daken. I don't like him anymore. I stopped collecting Dark Wolverine after he started fighting Franken Castle.... Ugh Franken Castle.
Dude, Frankencastle RULES. It was the shake-up Punisher needed to make it interesting again. Aside from Punisher MAX, he hasn't been interesting in years. MAX is for the usual "killing mobsters realistically" crap, while the 616 universe is pretty well-handled with Franken Castle. But they're making him into a 90's cliché again, so...
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Wesker, Spider Man, and Frank west might be Announced tomorrow.
And maybe Megaman EXE or Classic
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better be classic
OR ELSE
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Will black-suit (Vemon) Spider-Man be available?
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better be classic
OR ELSE
What if it was just Rush?
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better be classic
OR ELSE
Your avvy is highly appropriate for this comment...
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better be classic
OR ELSE
I HAVE THIS VERY FUNNY FEELING THAT IT IS NOT...
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I dunno. Spidey's pretty popular. I got a feeling they would have announced him already.
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I dunno. Spidey's pretty popular. I got a feeling they would have announced him already.
I still think that if they are going to announce him they are going to wait till the New York Comic Con. Its his home town and Marvel's too.
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5JwLCsnLn0[/youtube]
Simple mode.
Sounds kind of like Smash Bros. As one inexperienced in fighting games I should be interested, but I wasn't really planning on buying this anyway.
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Wow... so many remaining slots!
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it totals up to 42.
Time will tell if there's unlockables within that number or beyond :)
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I think Capcom is not telling the truth about the final # of slots.
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Ok now. Its Classic or EXE now.
Classic: MVC1 & MVC2 Veteran
X: Deconfirmed
Legends: Deconfirmed cuz of Tron
EXE: 2nd popular Megaman
ZX: Highly unlikely
Star Force: Nobody cares about him
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Am going to be "Buahahahahaing" if the unlikely is the one that gets in. XD
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I wouldn't mind seeing .EXE over classic, personally. <blasphemy> I found the Battle Network games to be a fair amount more fun than the others... ;>>
</blasphemy>
But I don't mind, really. Where the hell is Bass?
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Why not other characters? Honestly, I'd love it if Wily or Roll were playable. Wily could use that little saucer of his.
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Wily could be like trainer from SSBB. He could summon RMs to attack!
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Roll was playable in TatsuCap, and SHE. WAS. A. BEAAAAAAST! XD
But no, this game needs some Playable Blues action going on! Imagine a team up of Captain America & Blues? DOUBLE SHIELD BAD-ASS-ACTION! 8D
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But then you'd need a third guy with a shield, wouldn't you? It wouldn't be a true shield team without one.
Sword-n'-Board class from Monster Hunter?
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At that point, just throw in Iceman.
ICE BEAM! 8)
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At that point, just throw in Iceman.
ICE BEAM! 8)
Which one? >_> We're in a crossover where both companies have one. =P
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Am sure he's talking about X-Men. XD
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I actually like the Captain Cold ripoff better. =P
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10:1 Bobby Drake gets disconfirmed.
and...I actually like the Captain Cold ripoff better. =P
Captain Cold ripoff? >:(
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Which one? >_> We're in a crossover where both companies have one. =P
PUT BOTH OF THEM IN! DOUBLE ICE BEAM!
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PUT BOTH OF THEM IN! DOUBLE ICE BEAM!
Iceman should have a chibi Iceman on his shoulder all the time during the game, making cold puns.
and...Captain Cold ripoff? >:(
(http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/9357/captain%20cold.jpg)
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Bass seems like a ok addition
People would complain about Proto because he would be a "shoto" because of his shield.
Wily would be kewl
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Maybe ProtoMan can make a sick hyper with its scarf....it still uses one right?
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Wily summoning his RMs, would be more like Doronjo than Pokemon Trainer, if you ask me. ;)
Bass getting in would be HEAVEN for me, even though that doesn't have a chance of happening.
But still, I do hope that Classic Mega Man gets in, if only to see Hyper Mega Man in 3-D!
Oh, and by the way, Spider-Man and Wesker were recently confirmed.
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Yep, Kudos speaks the truth:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ys3whNhaneg[/youtube]
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So... Spidey's finally been revealed.
Just... why NOW? Why not in the beginning, or in an announcement with more pomp? Spidey is Marvel's biggest hero, why did they announce him casually like this? Doesn't make any sense from any kind of business or hype standpoint.
Oh well, at least he's in.
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And just for the hell of it:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCrfzJaIpws[/youtube]
Unrelated to the video, I wonder if they're going to have another RE character in there.
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............I wonder if they saving the MM character(s) for last. -.-"
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So... Spidey's finally been revealed.
Just... why NOW? Why not in the beginning, or in an announcement with more pomp? Spidey is Marvel's biggest hero, why did they announce him casually like this? Doesn't make any sense from any kind of business or hype standpoint.
Oh well, at least he's in.
He may be ONE of Marvel's biggest heroes, but for the most part, the likes of Wolverine and Iron Man are more in the public eye now (thanks to more recent films). That likely will still continue for some of Marvel's other brands, if Thor and a Captain America feature are still slated to appear some time soon next year.
I'm sure more hoopla for Spider-man (as well as possibly any body he may be bringing with him, like [Anti-]Venom or w/e) will definitely be made at NYCC.
Any way, my main issue so far? The "Simple" Control scheme. So...we went through all these changes to the control scheme to what it is currently, as an effort to "streamline" the interface for casual gamers...only to then offer an even MORE Simplified control scheme for casual gamers?! Dammit, Capcom! Why didn't you just have this "Simple" control scheme as an alternative from the jump, and allowed those of us who wanted some thing more traditional to have that any way? -u-'
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He may be ONE of Marvel's biggest heroes, but for the most part, the likes of Wolverine and Iron Man are more in the public eye now (thanks to more recent films). That likely will still continue for some of Marvel's other brands, if Thor and a Captain America feature are still slated to appear some time soon next year.
I'm sure more hoopla for Spider-man (as well as possibly any body he may be bringing with him, like [Anti-]Venom or w/e) will definitely be made at NYCC.
Any way, my main issue so far? The "Simple" Control scheme. So...we went through all these changes to the control scheme to what it is currently, as an effort to "streamline" the interface for casual gamers...only to then offer an even MORE Simplified control scheme for casual gamers?! Dammit, Capcom! Why didn't you just have this "Simple" control scheme as an alternative from the jump, and allowed those of us who wanted some thing more traditional to have that any way? -u-'
Simply because of recent films, it doesn't mean he's less popular. His toys and merchandise continue to be best-sellers, he's got a new animated series coming out, fresh off the cancellation of his old one, and he has several comics coming out every single week. He's being more whored out than Wolverine, Iron Man or Deadpool. Even with the recent low sales due to the OMD bullshit, the series continues going strong and appealing to people of all ages, and he still is Marvel's most appealing and timeless character. It makes absolutely no sense to announce him like this.
And arcade needs to evolve for all people to play, as I told you a thousand times. The simplified control scheme is just THERE. You don't need to like it, and you certainly don't need to play with people using it. Just pretend that it doesn't exist.
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he's got a new animated series coming out, fresh off the cancellation of his old one,
He does?
And honestly, I don't really see Spiderman rising hype for anyone. Whatever his reveal would've been most people would just be "oh they finally showed Spiderman" instead of "[tornado fang] YEAH SPIDERMAN!"
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He does?
And honestly, I don't really see Spiderman rising hype for anyone. Whatever his reveal would've been most people would just be "oh they finally showed Spiderman" instead of "[tornado fang] YEAH SPIDERMAN!"
He's Marvel's big character. Like Mario for Nintendo or Snake for Konami. It's what basically puts them on the map most predominantly. Of course he raises hype.
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Well, it was more believed he wouldn't be in due to contractual dealings with Activision and the Spiderman line of games.
Of course, people who believed this are idiots.
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Simply because of recent films, it doesn't mean he's less popular. His toys and merchandise continue to be best-sellers, he's got a new animated series coming out, fresh off the cancellation of his old one, and he has several comics coming out every single week. He's being more whored out than Wolverine, Iron Man or Deadpool. Even with the recent low sales due to the OMD bullshit, the series continues going strong and appealing to people of all ages, and he still is Marvel's most appealing and timeless character. It makes absolutely no sense to announce him like this.
An announcement is an announcement. After all, Japan loves Spider-man too, as he's probably one of the first Marvel personalities they got to know. (Tokusatsu adaptation decay/WTF not withstanding! 8D).
And arcade needs to evolve for all people to play, as I told you a thousand times. The simplified control scheme is just THERE. You don't need to like it, and you certainly don't need to play with people using it. Just pretend that it doesn't exist.
You misunderstand. I'm not fighting the "Simple" control scheme, by virtue of it being there. In this way, it's nothing more than the "Easy Auto" that existed in numerous fighting games before. Hell, even the likes of Bayonetta and old school DMC had that kind of things in place to make things easier for first-timers. That much is fine.
No, what I have a bone to pick with, is how the DEFAULT control scheme was already "streamlined" as it is, compared to previous Marvel games. As it stands right now, the game's default configuration is Light, Medium, Heavy, "Exchange" and the two Partner Buttons. Quite different from MvC2's control scheme, and definitely the source of much annoyance amongst seasoned players who, more than the aspect of it being "changed", don't like how the new control scheme will take options away. But whatever, some of us expected/accepted such, because Niitsuma was on board this time. And it seemed that they wanted to try and make a control scheme that would be more "welcoming" to possible new players. Whatever, we were stuck with it.
But now, lo and behold, we now have confirmation of a "Simple" control scheme which pretty much renders all of that pointless! For those people who are going to pick up the game to play through the story mode, get any trophy/achievement data that was to be had and etc., this mode is clearly for them. Meanwhile, those of us who were most hoping for a MvC3 over this last decade have again been short-straw'd, and apparently, for no good reason at all.
So, again, I ask: What was the purpose of changing the default control scheme, if they were planning this Simple mode, any way? Capcom and Niitsuma would have avoided so much in the way of backlash, if they had just put in the Simple mode as an option, and left the MvC2 control scheme verbatim in MvC3.
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An announcement is an announcement. After all, Japan loves Spider-man too, as he's probably one of the first Marvel personalities they got to know. (Tokusatsu adaptation decay/WTF not withstanding! 8D).
You misunderstand. I'm not fighting the "Simple" control scheme, by virtue of it being there. In this way, it's nothing more than the "Easy Auto" that existed in numerous fighting games before. Hell, even the likes of Bayonetta and old school DMC had that kind of things in place to make things easier for first-timers. That much is fine.
No, what I have a bone to pick with, is how the DEFAULT control scheme was already "streamlined" as it is, compared to previous Marvel games. As it stands right now, the game's default configuration is Light, Medium, Heavy, "Exchange" and the two Partner Buttons. Quite different from MvC2's control scheme, and definitely the source of much annoyance amongst seasoned players who, more than the aspect of it being "changed", don't like how the new control scheme will take options away. But whatever, some of us expected/accepted such, because Niitsuma was on board this time. And it seemed that they wanted to try and make a control scheme that would be more "welcoming" to possible new players. Whatever, we were stuck with it.
But now, lo and behold, we now have confirmation of a "Simple" control scheme which pretty much renders all of that pointless! For those people who are going to pick up the game to play through the story mode, get any trophy/achievement data that was to be had and etc., this mode is clearly for them. Meanwhile, those of us who were most hoping for a MvC3 over this last decade have again been short-straw'd, and apparently, for no good reason at all.
So, again, I ask: What was the purpose of changing the default control scheme, if they were planning this Simple mode, any way? Capcom and Niitsuma would have avoided so much in the way of backlash, if they had just put in the Simple mode as an option, and left the MvC2 control scheme verbatim in MvC3.
Because they've already said that the "simple" control scheme is merely a tool to evolve players to the normal one instead of being an alternate scheme to get comfortable with, seeing as they don't even know if they want to put all the specials available to players using that scheme. They want the full gameplay to stay at least somehow simpler than it used to be, for everyone to get used to.
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I thought S-kill had said somewhere that the exchange button nothing more then a button from the previous game with an added feature. Let me go see if I can find it.
Found it.
Seth: MvC3's controls are still in development, but it currently has 4 attack buttons, and two assist buttons. If you want the take-away, you can stop reading now because that's the bottom line.
The excitement has all come from the way those buttons are labeled — specifically because one of the attack buttons has a new name. [Editor's note: Right now it's called the Exchange button.] Why does it get its own name? Because:
A) Coming up with exciting new names for stuff is what marketing departments do (was "Aerial Rave" a reason to worry about what we used to just call "air combos"?).
B) It does some fun new stuff in some circumstances, but in many ways that stuff is not different than command normals in Marvel vs. Capcom 2. It does stuff like launching (also a normal move in MvC2), causing OTG-able flying screen (normal in MvC2), and some other interesting effects (not as much like MvC2, but a pretty natural evolution).
I understand people's concerns and that even the hint of a change can cause people to go to red alert and divert all power to forward deflector shields. We know MvC2 is serious business, and a very special game. Part of the reason we know that is because we made it, and there are key people from MvC2 on MvC3. We've worked for years to make this game a reality, and so we take it very seriously. The objective is not to "dumb down" a thing, but there are ways to go new places without also giving new players the finger. We have high hopes — you should too. It's easy to get worked up and complain in the absence of a lot of hard info, and there will be plenty of time for that, but I hope we can agree that stuff should come after people have actually played the game and seen it in action.
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Because they've already said that the "simple" control scheme is merely a tool to evolve players to the normal one instead of being an alternate scheme to get comfortable with, seeing as they don't even know if they want to put all the specials available to players using that scheme. They want the full gameplay to stay at least somehow simpler than it used to be, for everyone to get used to.
It's still a fairly useless exercise though. It doesn't matter how much in the way of "allowances" a developer may make, it still is up to the player themselves to decide if they want to take that step. Time and time again, the "training wheels" approach has proven that it does little to actually make more believers in the genre. What does? Things like the VF4 line's in-depth training/kumite mode, which does more to actually break things down so that even the most novice of players can understand a number of the game's basic and advanced mechanics.
All MvC3's simple scheme is going to accomplish is likely going to be the same thing that the Wii-mote control config did for TvC. It's not going to enforce a "training" mechanism of any sort, and it's more likely to be something that can be exploited in the right hands.
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It's still a fairly useless exercise though. It doesn't matter how much in the way of "allowances" a developer may make, it still is up to the player themselves to decide if they want to take that step. Time and time again, the "training wheels" approach has proven that it does little to actually make more believers in the genre. What does? Things like the VF4 line's in-depth training/kumite mode, which does more to actually break things down so that even the most novice of players can understand a number of the game's basic and advanced mechanics.
All MvC3's simple scheme is going to accomplish is likely going to be the same thing that the Wii-mote control config did for TvC. It's not going to enforce a "training" mechanism of any sort, and it's more likely to be something that can be exploited in the right hands.
Time, and acceptance will tell.
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They just announced Spider Man because Activision didnt want MVC3 to steal Shattered Dimensions "thunder" SD got released about 2 weeks ago so, heres Spider Man!
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCrfzJaIpws[/youtube]
.......is that NPH I hear? 8D
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.......is that NPH I hear? 8D
Doesn't seem like him to me, but I might be wrong.
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It's hard to hear over the background noise. It's probably isn't, but I can NPHope!
Needless to say, I like the updated version of his theme that us silly round-eyes won't be getting.
Posted on: September 18, 2010, 02:23:58 PM
Also, his more arrogant yelling of WEB SWING makes PB more arrogantly happy! 8)
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Spider Man's voice is so powerful and dramatic. 8)
JUST TAKE MY MONEY ALREADY, CAPCOM
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Still waiting for Hercules or something Cosmic. Come oooooon, Marvel. Star-Lord would be PERFECT.
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He's Marvel's big character. Like Mario for Nintendo or Snake for Konami. It's what basically puts them on the map most predominantly.
Exactly, which is why I say it really doesn't raise hype. Everyone was expecting him from the beginning. Deadpool makes more hype for example since he is both new and a fan favorite, Spiderman, while a fan favorite too, was completely expected and surprises aboslutely no one. He may be more necessary to appeal to the mainstream people, true, but those are not the kind of people that would be following character announcements anyways so the when and how he is revealed would make no difference to them.
At least that's the way I see it, feel free to disagree if you want.
Also, like Ben, I hate the Simple controls, not because of the simplification, but because they bring so many bad memories of HADANGEKIHADANGEKIHADANGEKIHADANGEKIHADANGEKIHADANGEKIHADANGEKIHADANGEKIHADANGEKIHADANGEKIHADANGEKI
HADANGEKIHADANGEKIHADANGEKIHADANGEKIHADANGEKI GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH I wish I could've punched those Zero spammers accross the internet >__<
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E3 is the world's bigget videogame con
TGS is Japan's biggest videogame con (and a boatload more important to Japan)
If Spidey wasn't done during E3, they chose the next biggest thing to announce him: TGS
That is "why now?"
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Exactly, which is why I say it really doesn't raise hype. Everyone was expecting him from the beginning. Deadpool makes more hype for example since he is both new and a fan favorite, Spiderman, while a fan favorite too, was completely expected and surprises aboslutely no one. He may be more necessary to appeal to the mainstream people, true, but those are not the kind of people that would be following character announcements anyways so the when and how he is revealed would make no difference to them.
At least that's the way I see it, feel free to disagree if you want.
Also, like Ben, I hate the Simple controls, not because of the simplification, but because they bring so many bad memories of HADANGEKIHADANGEKIHADANGEKIHADANGEKIHADANGEKIHADANGEKIHADANGEKIHADANGEKIHADANGEKIHADANGEKIHADANGEKI
HADANGEKIHADANGEKIHADANGEKIHADANGEKIHADANGEKI GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH I wish I could've punched those Zero spammers accross the internet >__<
Not everyone was expecting him from the beginning. Big leagues normally appear sooner. They should have showed him in the first trailer, that would have made a bigger impact.
E3 is the world's bigget videogame con
TGS is Japan's biggest videogame con (and a boatload more important to Japan)
If Spidey wasn't done during E3, they chose the next biggest thing to announce him: TGS
That is "why now?"
Note that he had as much importance as Wesker or X-23. That's certainly not the amount of importance one should give to an icon like that.
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Everyone's been getting an equal amount of importance, Spidey's not the only one.
Not everyone was expecting him from the beginning.
Honestly I think that was just you. Besides, we had plenty of hints already (silhoutte+stage+the fact that the images used for the banners in NYC were only the models of the playable characters with one being Spidey).
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Note that he had as much importance as Wesker or X-23. That's certainly not the amount of importance one should give to an icon like that.
Alternative: America fucks up Spiderman. Nobody cares anymore. Let's push him back.
Sounds better to you?
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Everyone's been getting an equal amount of importance, Spidey's not the only one.
Honestly I think that was just you. Besides, we had plenty of hints already (silhoutte+stage+the fact that the images used for the banners in NYC were only the models of the playable characters with one being Spidey).
Does "everyone" mean "everyone who is decoding hints in the game towards playable characters" to you? Or does it also mean the rest of the human population that isn't following every single piece of material related to this game, and is taking a more chilled approach to all of it? Because showing off this game in places like Comic-Con and making tons of ads is exactly what's MARKETING THE GAME TO PEOPLE OTHER THAN OBCESSED FUCKS LIKE US.
So, showing off Spider-Man would be good for them in a marketing standpoint, which would effectively hype the game to sell it to more customers. Am I getting through to you at all with this?
Alternative: America fucks up Spiderman. Nobody cares anymore. Let's push him back.
Sounds better to you?
Kids don't care about what's going on in the comic world. Most of the audience just likes him as a pop culture icon, and goes to see his movies, and maybe catches his cartoons. The comic has been selling worse and worse. Nobody really knows about it anymore.
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Ok, let me rephrase that, "everyone actually following the game." Better? Still, like you say, Spidey is like Marvel's Mario, expecting him to not be in MvC3 is like expecting Mario to not be in the next Smash Bros game. And again, yes, Spidey is great help from a marketing standpoint, I already said my opinion on that on a previous post.
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Sorry, but whoever thought Spider-Man WASN'T going to be in this game is a CHUMP!
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Sorry, but whoever thought Spider-Man WASN'T going to be in this game is a CHUMP!
MOAR LIKE A CHUMPION, YEAH? 8D
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LoL, sure!
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Now talking seriously. What could be the good thing of bringing Marvel's biggest icon to the table later, and presenting him alongside many other less-important characters? It just makes no sense at all from a marketing point of view, as well as any other point of view. Why announce him NOW?
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Now talking seriously. What could be the good thing of bringing Marvel's biggest icon to the table later, and presenting him alongside many other less-important characters? It just makes no sense at all from a marketing point of view, as well as any other point of view. Why announce him NOW?
LoL, seriously? If we're talking seriously, it doesn't [tornado fang]ing matter at all, from a marketing standpoint or any kind of standpoint. It's Marvel vs. Capcom 3! It's a sequel to a somewhat already mediocre fighting game that people absolutely loved, and fans of the series are buying it regardless of when, where, or why they do or don't announce our Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man.
Now if you want my opinion as to why they announced it later with many other less-important characters, it's because he's too bad-ass of a character to be put in the beginning vids with all the other scrubs like Cap, Wolvie, Ryu, Chump-Li, and other losers who are no match for the wall-crawler!
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ProtoMan Blues, you sure know how to crack me up. XD
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It's what I do! ;)
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Yes, but it still makes sense to introduce it to everyone who knows and likes Spider-Man in any way, and who might someday be interested in playing MvsC3. That means that seeing the character in the beginning would make more hype, like it or not. People generally assume that games like these are just made for this small sect of people who already know and will buy the game. No! This game has a chance to sell WAY more than just to people who were going to buy it anyway! Every little kid who's a Spidey fan should have been alerted to the fact that his or her favorite wall-crawler is in this game, which he can ask his mom or dad to buy. They MISSED that chance. And I have no [tornado fang]ing idea why. That's a lazy marketing department. And you're talking to a guy who's worked in advertising.
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...I'm gonna have to break that one up...
Yes, but it still makes sense to introduce it to everyone who knows and likes Spider-Man in any way, and who might someday be interested in playing MvsC3. That means that seeing the character in the beginning would make more hype, like it or not.
Everyone who's interested in this game is watching every single TGS update, just like they did E3. Everyone who's not probably has a "KG" type friend who will PM, IM, or text the information to them on a daily basis. Spider-Man is Marvel's icon, but he ultimately has nothing to do with the sales of this game. People are not buying Marvel vs. Capcom 3 simply for one character.
People generally assume that games like these are just made for this small sect of people who already know and will buy the game. No! This game has a chance to sell WAY more than just to people who were going to buy it anyway!
LOL. Oh man, that's rich! These games are not just made for the small sect of people who already know about it, but they're buying it whether or not Spider-Man is or is not #1. announced at the beginning, middle, end, or during 2nd breakfast or #2. whether or not Spider-Man is in the game PERIOD! Spider-Man's announcement has nothing to do with the other people buying it or not, and even if he did, it's so small a percentage that it still doesn't matter.
Every little kid who's a Spidey fan should have been alerted to the fact that his or her favorite wall-crawler is in this game, which he can ask his mom or dad to buy. They MISSED that chance. And I have no [tornado fang]ing idea why. That's a lazy marketing department. And you're talking to a guy who's worked in advertising.
...Seriously? LoL, every little kid who's a Spidey fan most likely has the [tornado fang]ing internet and most likely check the same exact websites we do. If not, they find out their game information via magazines like Nintendo Power, Game Informer, or Hustler. I mean, where exactly do you think they could market this so that little Timmy or Jenny can say, "HEY MOMMY, SPIDER-MAAAAAAAAAAAN! BUY ME IT!" and thus Web themselves a profit?
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...I'm gonna have to break that one up...
Everyone who's interested in this game is watching every single TGS update, just like they did E3. Everyone who's not probably has a "KG" type friend who will PM, IM, or text the information to them on a daily basis.
LOL. Oh man, that's rich! These games are not just made for the small sect of people who already know about it, but they're buying it whether or not Spider-Man is or is not #1. announced at the beginning, middle, end, or during 2nd breakfast or #2. whether or not Spider-Man is in the game PERIOD! Spider-Man's announcement has nothing to do with the other people buying it or not, and even if he did, it's so small a percentage that it still doesn't matter.
...Seriously? LoL, every little kid who's a Spidey fan most likely has the [tornado fang]ing internet and most likely check the same exact websites we do. If not, they find out their game information via magazines like Nintendo Power, Game Informer, or Hustler. I mean, where exactly do you think they could market this so that little Timmy or Jenny can say, "HEY MOMMY, SPIDER-MAAAAAAAAAAAN! BUY ME IT!" and thus Web themselves a profit?
Nnnnnnno.
- I know a ton of people interested in the game who doesn't have the patience to watch or be told any kind of updates, and just worries about watching a trailer or two when they catch them and buying the game at the end.
- Yes, Spider-Man has to do with other people buying it as well. It's called marketability. You show off a popular character, and you automatically reach a bigger audience than your regular one.
- No, they don't "all have the internet and check the same websites as we do", or we'd be infested with every single rugrat who's a Spidey fan. There are lots more of those than there are people who can use a PC.
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Nnnnnnno.
- I know a ton of people interested in the game who doesn't have the patience to watch or be told any kind of updates, and just worries about watching a trailer or two when they catch them and buying the game at the end.
- Yes, Spider-Man has to do with other people buying it as well. It's called marketability. You show off a popular character, and you automatically reach a bigger audience than your regular one.
- No, they don't "all have the internet and check the same websites as we do", or we'd be infested with every single rugrat who's a Spidey fan. There are lots more of those than there are people who can use a PC.
Yessssssss
-Then those ton of people are going to see the same thing we all are; trailers that will continue to come out as the game comes close to being released, therefore making where said updates like this come out pointless.
-Bullshit. This isn't a singular Spider-Man game, therefore one single character isn't going to make enough of a difference in sales, especially when those same people realize that the game ISN'T a singular Spider-Man game, and is in fact a Marvel vs. Capcom collab fighting game. Not to mention the fact that Marvel will most likely put ads for the game in ALL their comics as the game comes closer to being released, ONCE. AGAIN. making this update pointless in terms of marketing to try and reach this bigger audience you keep bringing up.
-Read what I type. I said, if they don't have the internet (which is highly unlikely in this day and age), they get updated via magazines in the game stores just like we use to when didn't have the internet. Also, if they don't have the internet, then guess what? They're not seeing ANY kind of update for this game anyway, whether it's a trailer or a TGS update, or really ANY kind of update that requires the internet. And you didn't answer my most excellent question. Where are they marketing this to your friendly, neighborhood Spider-fans that is going to net them a bigger profit?
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Actually I think the majority of comic readers hate Daken now.
I've always liked X-23 though. Nice shout out to the somewhat underrated X-Men: Evolution show.
Late reply is VERY late,
But I loved X-Men Evolution. Really good show it was. I was pretty sad to see it go. I never got to see the end of the Apocalypse arc when it was running.
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Yessssssss
-Then those ton of people are going to see the same thing we all are; trailers that will continue to come out as the game comes close to being released, therefore making where said updates like this come out pointless.
-Bullshit. This isn't a singular Spider-Man game, therefore one single character isn't going to make enough of a difference in sales, especially when those same people realize that the game ISN'T a singular Spider-Man game, and is in fact a Marvel vs. Capcom collab fighting game. Not to mention the fact that Marvel will most likely put ads for the game in ALL their comics as the game comes closer to being released, ONCE. AGAIN. making this update pointless in terms of marketing to try and reach this bigger audience you keep bringing up.
-Read what I type. I said, if they don't have the internet (which is highly unlikely in this day and age), they get updated via magazines in the game stores just like we use to when didn't have the internet. Also, if they don't have the internet, then guess what? They're not seeing ANY kind of update for this game anyway, whether it's a trailer or a TGS update, or really ANY kind of update that requires the internet. And you didn't answer my most excellent question. Where are they marketing this to your friendly, neighborhood Spider-fans that is going to net them a bigger profit?
(sigh)
...like it or not, my opinion makes sense from a marketing standpoint. Bringing out Spidey with a bang would sell more copies, because showing off your biggest character means more kids would like the game. Kids don't give a [parasitic bomb] if it's a singular character in a game. Spidey's in it, so they buy it. And you seriously think comic ads reach a big crowd? Hahahahaha. And you're acting as if kids get updated in every way they can. And that might be common in some places, but you'd be surprised how slim the net use is on many countries.
Question? They AREN'T. That's why I'm saying it's lazy marketing. When you have a big character, either reveal it already or show it off with a bang. This wasn't the case.
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AHAHAHAHAHA. Oh man, wait till I get to a computer, cause I am not typing out my response to this on my iPod. XD
Posted on: September 19, 2010, 10:14:04 AM
Okay, at work and at a computer. Now where was I...
(sigh)
...like it or not, my opinion makes sense from a marketing standpoint. Bringing out Spidey with a bang would sell more copies, because showing off your biggest character means more kids would like the game. Kids don't give a [parasitic bomb] if it's a singular character in a game. Spidey's in it, so they buy it. And you seriously think comic ads reach a big crowd? Hahahahaha. And you're acting as if kids get updated in every way they can. And that might be common in some places, but you'd be surprised how slim the net use is on many countries.
Question? They AREN'T. That's why I'm saying it's lazy marketing. When you have a big character, either reveal it already or show it off with a bang. This wasn't the case.
And again, bullshit. Who's seeing this bang of an announcement, besides the people who are constantly being updated on the net like this? Also, WHERE are they seeing this bang of an announcement? If your answer is the internet, you've just went on to show that kids don't always have access to the internet, or get updated as much as we do. So guess what? THEY. DON'T. MAT-TER. BECAUSE ANY BIG BANG ATTACK ANNOUNCEMENT FOR THIS GAME IS GOING TO COME ON THE INTERNET, THE VERY SAME INTERNET YOU CLAIM THIS OTHER MARKET DOESN'T HAVE. They will eventually find out that Spider-Man is in the game anyway, whether be it word of mouth, magazine, or perhaps a mention on X-Play. But I really have no idea where you think Capcom could market this game or announce it with a bang that the kids you seemingly want this marketed to are going to see it.
LoL, and no I don't think comic ads reach a big crowd. But you're saying the crowd that Capcom should also be trying marketing to, other than the people who are constantly getting updated the same way we are, don't get updated like us or have access to the internet. So I was bringing up a possible example of where else this "audience" of yours is possibly going to find out that Spider-Man is in the game in the first place.
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So the Marvel vs Capcom 3 thread turned into a big annoying arguement.
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AHAHAHAHAHA. Oh man, wait till I get to a computer, cause I am not typing out my response to this on my iPod. XD
Posted on: September 19, 2010, 10:14:04 AM
Okay, at work and at a computer. Now where was I...
And again, bullshit. Who's seeing this bang of an announcement, besides the people who are constantly being updated on the net like this? Also, WHERE are they seeing this bang of an announcement? If your answer is the internet, you've just went on to show that kids don't always have access to the internet, or get updated as much as we do. So guess what? THEY. DON'T. MAT-TER. BECAUSE ANY BIG BANG ATTACK ANNOUNCEMENT FOR THIS GAME IS GOING TO COME ON THE INTERNET, THE VERY SAME INTERNET YOU CLAIM THIS OTHER MARKET DOESN'T HAVE. They will eventually find out that Spider-Man is in the game anyway, whether be it word of mouth, magazine, or perhaps a mention on X-Play. But I really have no idea where you think Capcom could market this game or announce it with a bang that the kids you seemingly want this marketed to are going to see it.
LoL, and no I don't think comic ads reach a big crowd. But you're saying the crowd that Capcom should also be trying marketing to, other than the people who are constantly getting updated the same way we are, don't get updated like us or have access to the internet. So I was bringing up a possible example of where else this "audience" of yours is possibly going to find out that Spider-Man is in the game in the first place.
The MvsC3 announcement reached far more places than the net, boyo. There were ads all over the place. And places like game stores and malls everywhere usually run the latest game trailers in their screens. I guarantee you that showing Spidey there back when the game first came up would have done wonders for its marketing.
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The MvsC3 announcement reached far more places than the net, boyo. There were ads all over the place. And places like game stores and malls everywhere usually run the latest game trailers in their screens. I guarantee you that showing Spidey there back when the game first came up would have done wonders for its marketing.
Ads all over the place? Really? I live in what can easily be considered one of the top 3 most advertisement heavy cities in the world, and I have seen no ads on buses, bus stops, trains, walls, posters, or anything as of yet. As for game store advertisements, once again, kids will eventually see the eventual trailers anyway, as the ones they have shown are most likely not sure to be the last. And since the kids who see these ads are easily distracted children, ESPECIALLY in a game store surrounded by games, magazines, toys, gaming stations, etc., it will make so little a difference at this point in time where it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. More trailers and ads will obviously be coming out when the game gets closer to release. More posters and such will be released more on what I mentioned above, and more importantly, on the windows of game stores, which if you cut out the internet, is the most likely place where they will see their beloved wall crawling hero, and THEN bug mommy & daddy to buy the game for them.
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So the Marvel vs Capcom 3 thread turned into a big annoying arguement.
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You'll also notice the big argument is started by the same person as the other ones.
Fan-[tornado fang]ing-tastic.
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Let's make arguments about Wesker now. 8D
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Aye.
Or how about we talk about how much we want Arthur of Ghost n Ghouls to be in this :D
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Or how about we talk about how much we want Arthur of Ghost n Ghouls to be in this :D
No objections here. I think it's about time Arthur got some time in the spotlight.
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He was gonna be in TvC if iirc. If so, then he better be in. I'd love to see Arthur combo awesomely w/ that Thunder armor of his~
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He was gonna be in TvC if iirc. If so, then he better be in. I'd love to see Arthur combo awesomely w/ that Thunder armor of his~
Stop your lies. You wanna see him armor-less more than you want to see him wearing armor!
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NOOO!!! MY VIRGIN EYES!!! XD
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Stop your lies. You wanna see him armor-less more than you want to see him wearing armor!
Hey, hey, hey.
I keep my...secret in the...closet.
No need to open that up. 8D
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Why is capcom taking so friggin long to announce a Megaman?
It'll probably be Classic Megaman because of the shitty Rockman 2 clone, Megaman Universe
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To keep us guessing which one will make it. I thought that was obvious.
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To keep us guessing which one will make it. I thought that was obvious.
Still, it's enough to make you wonder why they even bother. With X de-confirmed, and the likelihood of re-using assets from TvC that much higher, they might as well just be frank with it.
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Am going to be rolling on the floor with LoL if its another character other then MegaMan. XD
Or maybe he's an unlockable?
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Still hoping for Megaman EXE.
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they might as well just be frank with it.
I forget, is Frank in the game? 8D
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they might as well just be frank with it.
Well, Frank did use the Real Megabuster in TvC
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It sounded more like this to me..."REEEl!!! MEGABUSTER!! *BOOOOOOOM!!!!*....like that. XD
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and the likelihood of re-using assets from TvC that much higher
I used to agree with you about that. But with Tron back in, that throws a wrench into that line of thinking. Would they really have two Legends reps? Would they really allow four Mega Man characters? The fear is becoming less of a reality to me. Now it just sounds like paranoid RUINED FOREVER talk.
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OfficialMVC3's videos have the crowd edited out.
you can hear wesker talk and you can hear Spidey and wesker's themes.
[spoiler]For some reason, Wesker talks in both English and Japanese in the video though.... -_-[/spoiler]
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And a real big rench too. 8D
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I used to agree with you about that. But with Tron back in, that throws a wrench into that line of thinking. Would they really have two Legends reps? Would they really allow four Mega Man characters? The fear is becoming less of a reality to me. Now it just sounds like paranoid RUINED FOREVER talk.
To me, two Legends/DASH reps would make a lot of sense, ESPECIALLY if some thing new relating to the series is slated to appear soon. If any thing, Roll may be the one that ends up on the chopping block (as much as Niitsuma may protest), simply because Capcom saw that the American public saw her as a "waste" of a slot (but Zero is still a-okay though! 8D).
Besides, we already have it where a number of the series represented are slated to have two or more reps; a number from the same game, no less. They could do "worse" than having both Trigger and Tron.
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[spoiler]For some reason, Wesker talks in both English and Japanese in the video though.... -_-[/spoiler]
It's simple. Either his mission for COMPLETE GLOBAL SATURATION requires him to be multilingual, or the video editors were dumb enough to use footage from Japanese and English versions of the game.
I'm inclined to believe the former.
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You can change the language of Capcom characters, so I guess...they just showed off both languages here! Good for them.
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Still hoping for Megaman EXE.
keep hoping.
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I wonder if they are gonna make a never before anounced character playable at the "Chicago Fight Club"...
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http://shoryuken.com/content/morrigan-getting-covered-up-marvel-vs-capcom-3-1896/
I find this humorous.
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Capcom is once again censoring their material as they did in the good old days.
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They did this same thing to Ivy when Soulcalibur IV was coming out. Won't impact the game any way. It's just Capcom trying to protect children from the terrors of rockin' female bodies on the internet. Even though there are countless other places where you'll find them in skimpier clothing, if any at all.
RR: That color business isn't cool.
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As long as it doesn't affect the box art. Lord knows how many times that practice was done, for games that are clearly T-rated. *thinks about Super Robot Taisen OG: Endless Frontier's US box art* ::)
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Personally, I have no qualms whatsoever with them pushing for more modesty with the characters (I'd actually encourage it). It wouldn't hurt for them to actually put some effort into it, though.
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This displeases me.
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They probably did that because little kids are able to search "Spider Man" or "Iron Man"
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oh no not the cleavage their innocence will be ruined forever
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FROM TWITTER 3HRS AGO:
Agent_M:
"Just got off the phone with some folks from @Capcom_Unity. The @marvelvscapcom 3 plans for @NY_Comic_Con? EPIC."
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THE NEW YORK COMIC CON YOU SAAAAAAAAAY!
8D
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ANNOUNCE FRIKKEN MEGAMAN ALREADY, IM GOING INSANE
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JVphnf4qUM[/youtube]
Here, have a much clearer Spider-Man video. Man, he's more arrogant than EVER! 0v0
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ANNOUNCE FRIKKEN MEGAMAN ALREADY, IM GOING INSANE
RELAX IDIOT! WE STILL HAVE A MONTH LONG TO GO STILL! XD
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Spencer, Arthur, Magneto, and MODOK were just confirmed (http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2010/oct/08/spencer-confirmed-marvel-vs-capcom-3/).
Megaman.EXE was deconfirmed on the liveblog, apparently. FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
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Spencer, Arthur, Magneto, and MODOK were just confirmed (http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2010/oct/08/spencer-confirmed-marvel-vs-capcom-3/).
Megaman.EXE was deconfirmed on the liveblog, apparently. FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
Not just Megaman. EXE.
Bass EXE, Zero EXE, Everyone! [tornado fang]! Capcom needed another villian! smart move, capcom!
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[tornado fang] YES ARTHUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'll just leave this here.
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/9/2010/10/b6974d4023da1f4f6068030b556e102d/340x.jpg
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Classic Mega and Jill, niiiiice~
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Classic Mega's back in style~
One more and my fightin' style's all set for Marvel VS capcom 3.
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I'll just leave this here.
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/9/2010/10/b6974d4023da1f4f6068030b556e102d/340x.jpg
Heey, you were there too. I took the same pictures up close. Strider was on the other side of the same wall but I couldn't get shot because too many people were in the way :P
(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/4900/jillmvc3.jpg) (http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/5278/megamanmvc3.jpg)
More than likely all the MvC2 characters (except the made up ones for that game) will return so I'm not surprised it's classic Mega Man.
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[objection!] Guys, thats MVC2 ARTWORK.
It confirms NOTHING O:<
But Classic Megaman is confirmed anyways.
Every Megaman is down. except one.
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I'll just leave this here.
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/9/2010/10/b6974d4023da1f4f6068030b556e102d/340x.jpg
Dude, so MvC2 artwork has the MvC3 logo? I never knew that...
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Now that I can see it from my laptop, it is, BUT...
Every Megaman is down. except one.
Other then that, they just might be trolling us...
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I'm not sure what they're planning. While all three of them are possible, less so Jill cause I'm unsure about 3 RE characters, they could have just been using the MvC2 art. I didn't see Jill and Mega, but I did see Strider.
The place BLEW UP when they showed Arthur. Everyone was super hyped. Spencer was pretty well received too, although one guy did shout "Lose the dreads!" While the more "hardcore" Spencer kinda fits the comic book vibe, I would have preferred Rearmed 2's Spencer. Quick, someone make a picture with WHERE'S YO BUSHY MUSTACHE!?
Also cool to see MODOK and Mag-[tornado fang]ing-neto in. I knew it would be on the internet by the time I got back tomorrow, as I won't make it early enough to see the official reveal, but I didn't expect a leak. And we need more Marvel heroes.
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Every Megaman is down. except one.
Geo, ZX, and Classic are one?
That aside, Classic does appear to be the most likely candidate, with Capcom using the most recent styles of their characters and MMUniverse in production.
So much for any remote chance of Billy Bob making an appearance
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I actually met S-Kill in the Comic Con a few hours before the panel. It's cool that he remembers me. He's such an awesome guy.
Yeah, the MVC3 event was pretty awesome. LoL, I wonder if it the Spencer & Arthur thing was leaked before I tweeted it! XD
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So Arthur is finnaly fully playable in this one? Lol, I like the fact he gets a key when he wins a match :D
Also I didn't expect to see Spencer
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I actually met S-Kill in the Comic Con a few hours before the panel. It's cool that he remembers me. He's such an awesome guy.
Yeah, the MVC3 event was pretty awesome. LoL, I wonder if it the Spencer & Arthur thing was leaked before I tweeted it! XD
It was, by Marvel.com themselves. They put up pictures of Magneto and MODOK that had Arthur and Spencer in the Capcom side of the team.
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It was, by Marvel.com themselves. They put up pictures of Magneto and MODOK that had Arthur and Spencer in the Capcom side of the team.
Haha, well [parasitic bomb]! XD
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At this poin
Geo, ZX, and Classic are one?
That aside, Classic does appear to be the most likely candidate, with Capcom using the most recent styles of their characters and MMUniverse in production.
So much for any remote chance of Billy Bob making an appearance
Why the [tornado fang] is everyone forgetting Megaman Zero?! O:<
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Cause he's not a Mega Man. He's Zero. He's red. That's like calling Proto Man a Mega Man.
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That's a no brainer. XD
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Cause he's not a Mega Man. He's Zero. He's red. That's like calling Proto Man a Mega Man.
Yet some people claim that X Zero is a Megaman -AC
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The Manga didn't help :D
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Yet some people claim that X Zero is a Megaman -AC
Funny thing about that.
They're also wrong. >_>
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[youtube]Rvc8Vq6wgLg[/youtube]
"Maggy" <3
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That was an awesome video, though I wish the Modok player did more moves with him.
Here's the other side of the wall I was talking about. Though this was the least amount of people I could get this shot with:
(http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/577/ryustridermvc3.jpg)
Out of all the games, at the NYCC, MvC3 was the one I wanted to play and only got to play it once. The lines (yes lines, not a line) are too much and waiting around like that I felt was a waste of time.
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(http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/4202/12866782726733070394307.jpg)
I like this guy already.
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I like how he kicks his wittle feet when he super jumps
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Apparently he was a Dancer before being turned into that thing....
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Also, Megaman EXE wasnt deconfirmed. it was a misunderstanding
When someone asked a question about Battle Network, everyone Booo'd. and Seth skiped the question
So EXE and BN reps are still in
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Also, Megaman EXE wasnt deconfirmed. it was a misunderstanding
When someone asked a question about Battle Network, everyone Booo'd. and Seth skiped the question
So EXE and BN reps are still in
Shouldn't it be EXE/BN reps, since they're the same series?
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Shouldn't it be EXE/BN reps, since they're the same series?
Sorry, my bad 8D
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Also, their presence is not guaranteed unless it's officially confirmed. -AC
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[objection!] Guys, thats MVC2 ARTWORK.
[objection!] THIS is the MVC2 artwork!
[spoiler=MVC2 Rockman & Jill](http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d133/Blue_Griffon/mvc2-jill.jpg)(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d133/Blue_Griffon/mvc2-mega-man.jpg)[/spoiler]
Dare to compare:
(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/4900/jillmvc3.jpg) (http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/5278/megamanmvc3.jpg)
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[objection!] THIS is the MVC2 artwork!
[spoiler=MVC2 Rockman & Jill](http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d133/Blue_Griffon/mvc2-jill.jpg)(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d133/Blue_Griffon/mvc2-mega-man.jpg)[/spoiler]
Dare to compare:
That's not the only art from MvC2, if you didn't know. It also looked (http://creativeuncut.com/gallery-11/mvc2-mega-man.html) like (http://creativeuncut.com/gallery-11/mvc2-iron-man.html) this (http://creativeuncut.com/gallery-11/mvc2-jill-valentine.html) when the game was re-released on PSN and XBL in 2009.
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Maybe they decided to reuse the art style of the re-release?
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Methinks it's just used as a place-holder, until the entire roster is confirmed. After all, MvC3 does use a brand-new art style.
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When someone asked a question about Battle Network, everyone Booo'd.
Sounds about right.
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The MvC2 artwork means absolutely nothing, hell, this isn't the first time people confuse the PSN/XBLA release artwork as some sort of confirmation for this game.
Unlike most people, I actually like all 4 new reveals (well, it would've been better if Spencer had his classic look though). Also, seeing the hate EXE got when it was mentioned just makes me want him in even more so that I can taste the haters' bitter tears XD
(http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/4202/12866782726733070394307.jpg)
I like this guy already.
Same here XD
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You must be stupid if you dont think that's not MVC2 artwork. Same style.
You do know that about each character has 5 artworks.
Main art
Secondary Art (the one with terrible megaman and where all the characters stand together)
Rival Art (like Megaman firing his mega buster at Iron Man)
Hyper Combo art
:D/ >_</ :o VS óVó/ >0</ >3< Art
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The MvC2 artwork means absolutely nothing, hell, this isn't the first time people confuse the PSN/XBLA release artwork as some sort of confirmation for this game.
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You must be stupid if you dont think that's not MVC2 artwork. Same style.
You do know that about each character has 5 artworks.
[objection!]
Some of the people at Capcom don't even know certain things about their own games. So if a fan can't tell the difference between artwork between games they did not make, it makes them stupid? o~O I wouldn't go that far dude. ::)
Are the pictures that Theonly I posted in fact from MvC2? The original art work for part 2 has a more cartoon-ish/comic hand drawn style. The artwork I posted (if you see it in person) has a "looks like it was painted" kind of style. The artwork for the PSN & XBL release is a neither of the two. If the style that we posted is indeed from MvC2, all you had to do show us the other characters in MvC2 that were drawn in that same style (Ruby Heart for example) to prove your point. So either it is or it isn't.
Methinks it's just used as a place-holder, until the entire roster is confirmed. After all, MvC3 does use a brand-new art style.
It could be a place holder that they put in the MvC3 booth just to [tornado fang] with people minds, but even if something is confirmed it can still change and be removed AFTER it's been confirmed as the game is not exactly near being finalized. Capcom is infamous for this. Just look at all the beta/alpha stuff for every single resident evil game made. I keep track of these thing because I love seeing beta stuff that's different from the final.
I didn't even know that artwork was there until the Capcom guys told me about it. So I went to the IGN booth at took pictures.
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The pics you posted were from the XBLA/PSN rerelease.
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Then they did put those in the MvC3 booth just to [tornado fang] with people minds. 8D
EDIT: I Just saw it. It is from MvC2. Was that artwork used in the US?
http://i53.tinypic.com/1zdp5hh.jpg
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Yes it was. If you have a 360, go to MvC2's page on the marketplace. That picture is the background.
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Guess who's back?!
as for the artwork feud, hold on...
http://protodudesrockmancorner.blogspot.com/2010/10/rumor-classic-mega-man-in-marvel-vs.html
TADAH! read and weep.
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Guess who's back?!
as for the artwork feud, hold on...
http://protodudesrockmancorner.blogspot.com/2010/10/rumor-classic-mega-man-in-marvel-vs.html
TADAH! read and weep.
-AC
That's basically what's been posted on every site. B(
Niitsuma said Arthur is suppost to play as Megaman classic, so dont get your hopes up.
also, someone replaced the MVC2 logo with the MVC3 one
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Niitsuma said Arthur is suppost to play as Megaman classic, so dont get your hopes up.
What. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FlatWhat)
I do hope that you have proof of what you're saying, because I don't find this amusing. >8|
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What. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FlatWhat)
I do hope that you have proof of what you're saying, because I don't find this amusing. >8|
Niitsuma said that during the stream/interview.
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I see. Well, in this case, I do hope that we'll get Mega Man (Volnutt) Trigger. If not, then I fear that who we'll end up with is going to put the fanbase into "torches and pitchforks" mode.
To think that I was looking forward to seeing Hyper Mega Man in 3-D...but I'll stay strong. X(
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ZERO MOTHER FUCKERS.
Ahem.
The following was supposedly a leak that was deleted by high ups ASAP.
"First off, Capcom is doing an INCREDIBLE job at keeping this game close to their chest. I don't know much, but what I DO know I'll be more than glad to tell you. No, I don't work for Capcom, and neither do any friends or relatives -- but there are other outlets in the industry for this sort of information.
42 is indeed the magic number for playable characters.
DLC characters won't be happening, but Capcom is being tight-lipped on this for the time being. If the game launches as successfully as planned, you can definitely expect a significant retail update within a year including a handful of new characters.
March 22 is the tentative North American release date for the time being with Europe and Japan coming soon after. This can -- and probably will -- change, but development ends in February.
Starting in November, a new character will be revealed on a weekly basis on Capcom-Unity, Marvel.com and the Japanese site all the way until early March. There will be a Holiday break in late December/early January without any updates.
I know you guys like specifics, so I'll leave you with the "good stuff."
Bison and Viper are the final Street Fighter characters.
Strider is back.
Haggar is finally a playable character.
Classic Mega Man is back.
Zero is back from TVC.
Roll is NOT a playable character.
It's not much for now, but I'll let you guys know anything new as soon as I can verify.
Take care,
- M L"
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BOOB LIGHT SUPER! :D
And also, plays like does not mean replaces.
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Looks like I have a change of plans. We get the BEST outta the Mega Man franchise (Classic, X, and Legends), and I can keep my offense/defense strategy (Rock: Ranged, Zero: Melee, Tron: Special) combo. But then again, what form will Zero take this time? We had his X appearance, and his Zero apperance in Omnimusha: Blade Warriors. This should be intresting, as this is his THIRD fighting game outing.
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Well since he's returning from TvC, I'm guessing X.
Also, his Zero appearance was also in SVC Chaos.
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As with every leak, I don't believe it until I see it. Not that any of those leak characters are in any way bad.
If the game launches as successfully as planned, you can definitely expect a significant retail update within a year including a handful of new characters.
If that's true, it's good thing I'll be wasting my money on a 3DS by the time March comes around. That way I can just wait for Super Marvel Vs Capcom 3 Alpha 1 Turbo Edition EX.
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Told you it was Viper.
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Classic Mega Man? Strider!? Mike fracking Haggar (how's that for Capcom's grappler du jour? óVó)!!? 8B
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17sEq7HX2QE[/youtube]
That said, I'll keep myself tight-lipped on this matter. I can say with all certainty that in the past few years, character leaks for fighting games have turned out to be true, so there's no doubt in my mind that these chars will make it in.
I do hope that everyone else will not let that info leave this site (though, considering the nature of the Internet, it may be too late for that).
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Strider is fighting a new enemy. COPYRIGHT ISSUES
He'll be [tornado fang]ing sweet if he makes it.
Possible Zero buffs:
Rekkohoa comes out AS SOON as Zero's fist hits the ground.
Sogenmu is longer and more effective
Zero charge combos are easier to do
Possible new Level 3
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Won't believe it till I see it, but honestly, those are pretty safe guesses.
Zero buffs...
NO
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Niitsuma said Arthur is suppost to play as Megaman classic, so dont get your hopes up.
I don't remember hearing anything like that.
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Strider is fighting a new enemy. COPYRIGHT ISSUES
He's jointly owned by Moto Kikaku and Capcom. Get your facts straight, please. -AC
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Strider is fighting a new enemy. COPYRIGHT ISSUES
So was a good most of Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom, but it still made it over here. :/
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Possible Zero buffs:
[objection!]
You're kidding, right? Zero was friggin' top-tier in TvC, and you want him to get buffed?! If anything else they need to tone him down a bit. :|
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Yeah, if there was anyone that unarguably deserved to be beaten to a pulp with the nerf bat it was Mr "everything I do is safe AND I can actually mix you up good, also, HADANGEKIHADANGEKIHADANGEKIHADANGEKIHADANGEKIHADANGEKIHADANGEKI" AKA Zero.
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Well here's hoping that move won't be available in Simple Mode. It's really stupid when you assign a charge move to a single button. At least BlazBlue's shortcuts weren't that bad. I think Tao was the only character that had a non-Astral charge move on shortcut, and it's not a game breaking move at all. Tager's 360A is probably as cheap as BBCT got. Then again, barely anyone has charge moves at all.
If it was Guile and Sonic Boom was on shortcut, that wouldn't be as bad cause the charge time is short. It's been a while, but I don't remember Hadangeki having a short charge time.
MvC3 Simple has supers on one button. I forget, does that mean one button press, cause that would be kinda cheap. To use BlazBlue again, CS this time though, Beginner Mode forces you to charge a button to use a super. MvC3 could definitely take a note from that.
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Yeah, I think it's one button but you're limited to only one super. Honestly, that's not much of a problem to me, it's not as if super motions for Marvel weren't simple already for the most part and that could be done almost as fast.
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Yeah, for quarter circles and dragon punches it's no big deal. But if there's charge or 360s, I could see some people complaining.
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They're complaining either way (and chances are they will put at least 360s if a character uses it).
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Yeah, for quarter circles and dragon punches it's no big deal. But if there's charge or 360s, I could see some people complaining.
They should make a simpler motion for the rookies, not a one button press for a freakin super, that's a bit much if a noob where to do supers on a vet's ass and then think he is badass at the game. :|
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Simple controls are back.
Expect this:
Sogenmu! 8)
HADENGEKIHADENGEKIHADENGEKIHADENGEKIHADENGEKIHADENGEKIHADENGEKIHADENGEKIHADENGEKIHADENGEKIHADENGEKIHADENGEKIHADENGEKI
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Bison, I like. Viper? Eh....don't really care to be honest. Not gonna complain about it being a wasted character slot, but.....I just don't find Viper all that interesting.
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Everybody's gonna hate me for this but I would actually have loved to see Seth instead.
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Everybody's gonna hate me for this but I would actually have loved to see Seth instead.
Actually, I think Seth would've made more sense since he's technically a villain, and Wesker seem to be only other "evil" Capcom character at the moment, and when you also consider that 'Gief and Dhalsim aren't in the game....
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Hey, so do we know who's final boss in this game? As in, the MAIN VILLAIN? At first everyone was talking about Dormamu, and now I kinda am out of the loop so...
Who is it?
I sure hope, that even if it's Dormamu or whatever, it will turn out that everything was staged by DOOM. Because DOOM is AWESOME unlike Suckmahmoo.
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Well, the story is supposedly that Doom and Wesker join forces to do evil things and stuff IIRC, but I don't think we know for sure who's last boss.
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I bet Dr. Wily is behind it...He's always behind everything
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Well, the story is supposedly that Doom and Wesker join forces to do evil things and stuff IIRC, but I don't think we know for sure who's last boss.
I see. Good to know Doom plays a major part in the "story". Because there's never enough VICTOR VON DOOM.
I bet Dr. Wily is behind it...He's always behind everything
You have it wrong. DOOM would never let Wily be behind everything... because it's DOOM who's always behind EVERYTHING.
It will turn out that Dr. Wily is really just a puppet slave of DOOM.
DOOOOM!
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THAT MEANS WE'RE DOOMED!
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!!
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Doom is not real! It's just a robot build by Wily!
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Doom is not real! It's just a robot build by Wily!
Wrong. It's really a Doombot, not a robot build by Wily.
Meanwhile the REAL Doom is chillin' somewhere...
[spoiler]ON WILY'S CORPSE HAR HAR HAR[/spoiler]
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Galactus is the main villian. he's going to eat both of their dimensions like a Peanut butter and Jelly Sandwhich
Hopefully THESE are the new main marvel and capcom villians
MARVEL: Dormammu
Capcom: Sigma 8D
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Hopefully THESE are the new main marvel and capcom villians
MARVEL: Dormammu
Capcom: Sigma 8D
What part of
Well, the story is supposedly that Doom and Wesker join forces to do evil things and stuff
don't you understand?
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What part of
don't you understand?
what part of
They arent the main Marvel and Capcom villians
dont you understand? o-O
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:o
........did.....did you just say that Dr. Doom wasn't a main Marvel villain?
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:o
........did.....did you just say that Dr. Doom wasn't a main Marvel villain?
I said THE main Marvel Villian
I dont see him mashing the two universes together and eating them like sandwhiches
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Remember when Dr. Doom got the Infinity Gauntlet?
[parasitic bomb] was flying left and right.
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Everybody knows that's Galactus or Dormammu doing the universe tampering
Or maybe it was Seth and Stan Lee ALL ALONG..... 8D
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Remember when Dr. Doom got the Infinity Gauntlet?
[parasitic bomb] was flying left and right.
Or in the Secret Wars, when he stole the Beyonder's powers.
Posted on: October 18, 2010, 05:56:30 PM
Everybody knows that's Galactus or Dormammu doing the universe tampering
Nooooooooo...Galactus feeds off planets because he has too. He's a force of nature. He's not inherently evil.
Whereas Dr. Doom is.
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Nooooooooo...Galactus feeds off planets because he has too. He's a force of nature. He's not inherently evil.
Whereas Dr. Doom is.
Dormammu rips through dimensions like it was a piece of blue cheese
He's also able to destroy dimensions too.
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Dormammu rips through dimensions like it was a piece of blue cheese
He's also able to destroy dimensions too.
I said Galactus, not Dormammu.
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I said Galactus, not Dormammu.
Dormammu is still as equally powerful as Galactus
anyways, lets get back to MVC3
Am I the only person who thinks Movie Land should be a New Stage? 8)
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Re: Story
(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/10/500x_mvc3story-w1200.jpg)
Doom made the team, so that kinda puts him as main villain until that great evil thing appears.
Re: Movie Land stage
Yes, it needs to be done.
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This is what I did in my bored time
Wesker approached Forte, after seeing his fight with Felicia >w<
Wesker claps at forte, then Forte turns around
Wesker asks Forte if he would join him on his quest to take over the world
Forte said: As long as I get to defeat Megaman, I'll joing you. Wesker took his answer as a Yes.
*skipping parts of the story*
Forte then knew that the power he wanted was twisted and that Wesker cared nothing about his goal. Forte then joined [whatever Megaman] and the heroes to join up and defeat the villians!
owob
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Dormammu rips through dimensions like it was a piece of blue cheese
Doesn't bleu cheese crumble? I can't imagine it being something that's easy to make a clean slice through
On the subject of Capcom villains in general... how about...
[spoiler](http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/2479/oni3guildenstern1471310.png)
Guildenstern? Maybe? Please?[/spoiler]
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TThe main villain is:
A GIANT SPACEFLEA OUT OF NOWHERE...
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The main villian is Stan Lee infected with uroboros and controled by the symbiote
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My God.
Doom's theme song is... horribly unfitting.
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Wesker and Spider Man's themes are the best imo
Deadpool's sucks.
He could have sang his own theme, hum his own theme, something else than that stupid one
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I'm [tornado fang]ing blown away.
A nearly flawless OST.
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Except for Ryu's theme, which I thought was better in TatsuCap, I like the soundtrack overall.
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I think that Trish is my favorite. But it's really hard to pick one.
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Iron Man's theme has a Mellow second part, I think it should have been replaced by a Saxophone IMO
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God Tier
Devils Never Cry RmX
Thor
Doom
Top Tier
Spider Man
Amaterasu
Wolverine
Hulk
Wesker
Mid Tier
Ryu (SF4 was better)
Dormammu
Spencer
Low Tier
Tron
Trish
Deadpool
Felicia
Magneto
Modok
Morrigan MvC2 versionw as better
Super Skrull
[parasitic bomb] tier
Captain America
Chris
Chun Li
Iron man for that stupid robot voice talking throughout.
WTF is ths Tier?
X-23
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Cute, Setsuna.
Anyhow, where is this soundtrack coming from?
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The japanese MVC3 site
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Awesome, thanks! :)
Let's see, themes I liked so far: Arthur (naturally), Wolverine, Trish, C.America, Spiderman's may grow on me, MODOK....might grow on me...i'm not sure, X-23, Dr.Doom, Dormammu, Tron Bonne, Hulk, Morrigan, and Amaterasu~
Overall, it's pretty darn good. I look forward to hearing the rest of the character themes.
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Okay, I've been listening to the Captain America theme over and over again, comparing it with the previous Cap themes. It's funny how a song can be both better and worse than it's previous incarnations. The MVC3 version of Cap's Theme suffers from what I like to call the Rockman World II Conundrum, in which the arrangement of the song is really excellent, it's just that the choice of instruments/sounds they decided to use just don't give it its "Final Justice."
It's not that bad with the MVC3 Cap theme, but it's just that really REALLY high pitched screech they use from 0:05-0:15 which strikes me as very putting. From about 0:15-0:35, it's hit or miss, but I'd have loved to hear the techno part as an electric guitar-ish sound. However, after 0:35 is when the song really shines and shows its potential. A lot of the background "strings" work EXTREMELY well with the song, as do the background "drums." They work so very, I'd kinda like to hear them without the main techno. What I truly love is that it goes into the loop better than any other version of the Cap song at 1:05, and that one dramatic horn they do at 1:07 is simply [tornado fang]ing awesome.
So yeah, that's my take on that particular song! 8)
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Personally, if that track were to be done with just an orchestra assortment of instruments and without the techno beat, it would sound much better. It's Captain America, his song should sound heroic. Otherwise, it's like giving Flight of the Valkyries a driving bass. It just... ruins the emotion of the arrangement.
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After listening to the tracks again over and over again during a Reach a thon, Trish's moves up to top tier. Mainly at the 45 mark when it changes into something other than just Lock and Load.
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I love the themes of the DMC duo.
Thor and Amaterasu have pretty cool themes too.
Hulk smashes ya all!
Arthur theme...nice rendition of the GnG theme
I was dissapointed with Doom's theme, Wesker got the better villain theme, Iron Man's theme could've been better.
Dormammu's theme stars out nice...then it kinda gets boring
X-23 got some catchy song :D same for Deadpool
They could have done something different with Tron's theme.
Most of them are pretty forgetable though....
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Deadpool's theme could have had:
Him rapping it
him humming it
him whistling it
something that's not rap
the theme from the roll call trailer (the part when they all fight)
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God Tier
Devils Never Cry RmX
Thor
Doom
Well, aren't you clever.
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Could someone please send me a downloadlink for the Themes? (Or previews or whatever)? I can only find them on Youtube >^<
EDIT: Nevermind, just found one
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Not digging the music really. When did Capcom hire shitty techno remixers off of youtube for their official projects?
Pro tip: comic book fans grew up with rock, not techno.
I guess I'll be utilizing the 360's music player a lot in this game.
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shitty techno
Dormammu
Hulk
Iron Man
Wesker
Arthur
Wolverine
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Dormammu
Hulk
Iron Man
Wesker
Arthur
Wolverine
Thats 6 of 26. Not a favorable ratio.
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Thats 6 of 26. Not a favorable ratio.
That's not all of them. I was just thinking of them from my memory o-O
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http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2010/oct/23/niitsuma-deconfirms-more-franchises-mvc3/
• He thanks everyone for their tweets regarding character suggestions.
• No additional Darkstalkers characters.
• No Monster Hunter.
• No Sengoku BASARA.
• No Breath of Fire.
• No Gill (Street Fighter), but Niitsuma likes him.
• Mega Man fans have to wait a little longer.
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Just heard the OST, and honestly I have mixed feelings on it. Some are great, some are...not that good.
Not counting MvC2 I'd say it's probably the worst of the OSTs in the VS series, but considering most are really good that's not necessarilly as bad as it sounds.
...was I the only one that had the Power Rangers come to mind during a part of Wolverine's theme?
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>No Breath of Fire
They considered it? DICKS
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Grain of salt, etc.
(http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/4576/1287929239956.png)
Capcom
Red Aramer or however it's spelled from Ghosts and Goblins
Megaman
Zero
Haggar
C Viper
Bison
Strider
Marvel
HOWARD THE DUCK????
Shuma Gorath
She-Hulk
Ms Marvel
Spider-woman(..)
Venom
Storm
Thanos
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Hm. Can someone explain to me why they use "Red Arremer" instead of "Firebrand" in these games? Presumably there's a significant difference I don't know of...?
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Firebrand is a good guy while Arremer isn't?
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Red Arremer is still the Japanese name. Firebrand was localized for the Gargoyle's Quest series.
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If true it'll be an interesting roster, but as usual I'm not believing it until I'm seeing it.
>No Breath of Fire
They considered it? DICKS
Not really, most likely someone just asked him on Twitter and he said no, they didn't necessarily consider it at one point.
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Grain of salt, etc.
(http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/4576/1287929239956.png)
Spider-Woman using Spider-Man's logo? Aren't they from different universes or something?
And hasn't Venom been deconfirmed for a while now? =|
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Spider-Woman using Spider-Man's logo? Aren't they from different universes or something?
It depends on which Spider-Woman they use. There have been many.
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I'm fairly certain that they'll use the first one.
That said, Howard the Duck is obviously going to be a joke character, I just know it! >U<
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(http://www.disneydreaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Spider-Woman-Movie.jpg)
They'll probably go with Jessica Drew. Bendis loves her.
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Yup, that's the one I was thinking about! owob
On another note, the fact that we now have 2 of Doctor Strange's foes without the man himself being in is hilariously sad. Oh well. Such circumstances can't be helped, really.
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FIREBRAND!!
Hey, those games were epic.
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Red Arremer SERIOUSLY Needs a rehashing. His moveset in SVC Chaos sucked ass.
His Light kick is his Heavy Kick! -AC
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At least SNK Playmore bother to used someone less known that the obvious. They choose Demitri. That shows enough respect for me(Leopold was also good). If only the game was more balanced...
Red Arremer SERIOUSLY Needs a rehashing. His moveset in SVC Chaos sucked ass.
His Light kick is his Heavy Kick!
Well, he was an Extra Boss... and... I guess SNK Playmore was trying to make him close to his source material as possible...
..what was his "Heavy Kick?"
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A Axe kick
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Dmitri should be in this. Just for the sake of more Midnight Bliss. ^.^
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Dmitri should be in this. Just for the sake of more Midnight Bliss. ^.^
Weren't you complaining about the amount of girls in the game?There isn't much use for that :D
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Well I, for one, am glad that Felicia gets to appear in a Capcom crossover fighting game again. It's nice to have more than one Darkstlakers representative, for once. óVó
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Well I, for one, am glad that Felicia gets to appear in a Capcom crossover fighting game again. It's nice to have more than one Darkstlakers representative, for once. óVó
The problem here is that Capsule Computers kept using the SAME Reps for the series. Many fans are getting tired of seeing the Succubus and Cat-Monster all the time in crossovers.
SVC: Chaos was a small breath of fresh air when it had the Vampire Protagonist.
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Dmitri should be in this. Just for the sake of more Midnight Bliss. ^.^
I think that's actually why they're not including him. Marvel doesn't want their stuff to be genderswapped. :X
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The problem here is that Capsule Computers kept using the SAME Reps for the series. Many fans are getting tired of seeing the Succubus and Cat-Monster all the time in crossovers.
SVC: Chaos was a small breath of fresh air when it had the Vampire Protagonist.
True, but try telling that to Capcom. The saddest part, is that Hsien-Ko was in the list of characters considered for TvC's US release. :|
On the bright side, UDON gives attention to that franchise, if only through art books...
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True, but try telling that to Capcom. The saddest part, is that Hsien-Ko was in the list of characters considered for TvC's US release. :|
On the bright side, UDON gives attention to that franchise, if only through art books...
They also gave attention to Rival schools, which Capsule Computers also neglected.
UDON also bother to license Kodomomuke Manga AND the MegaMan Manga. They care THAT MUCH!
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The problem here is that Capsule Computers kept using the SAME Reps for the series.
Am I the only one who wants to see Ken Masters back in a crossover again? They started this trend in Capcom Fighting Evolution and he hasn't been in one since. Shoot, they could even pull a MvC1 and have a multi-formed Ryu.
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Weren't you complaining about the amount of girls in the game?There isn't much use for that :D
I never said anything of the sort. I think you have me confused with someone else.
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Am I the only one who wants to see Ken Masters back in a crossover again? They started this trend in Capcom Fighting Evolution and he hasn't been in one since. Shoot, they could even pull a MvC1 and have a multi-formed Ryu.
In this case, they don't want clones. ONE full Shotoclone is enough, and Ken Masters suffers the same problem as Luigi Mario. Gameplay Differences, aside.
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Am I the only one who wants to see Ken Masters back in a crossover again? They started this trend in Capcom Fighting Evolution and he hasn't been in one since. Shoot, they could even pull a MvC1 and have a multi-formed Ryu.
No you're not, but no offense, I'm glad they're not listening to you guys. Multi-form Ryu is the most I'd accept.
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Never liked multiform Ryu, he was just a weakened version of all 3.
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Never liked multiform Ryu, he was just a weakened version of all 3.
He wasn't bad, though, and he functioned as a nice compromise for having all 3. I've seen guys chain into the form switch and then into something like Shoryureppa. I'd say Ryu was weakened moreso by MvC1's changes than being terrible himself. In MSHvSF he could chain his Shinkuu Hadouken off of any air move, and he could even air-throw into it in XvSF. Ken has quite a few tools himself, such as OTG follow-ups and good, linkable supers. The Shotos all suffered in the 2D vs series due to their lack of range, though. Pretty much everyone else had longer limbs and getting in with crouching LK wasn't really an option. Thankfully he got better in TvC and presumably MvC3 as well.
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He wasn't bad, though, and he functioned as a nice compromise for having all 3. I've seen guys chain into the form switch and then into something like Shoryureppa. I'd say Ryu was weakened moreso by MvC1's changes than being terrible himself. In MSHvSF he could chain his Shinkuu Hadouken off of any air move, and he could even air-throw into it in XvSF. Ken has quite a few tools himself, such as OTG follow-ups and good, linkable supers. The Shotos all suffered in the 2D vs series due to their lack of range, though. Pretty much everyone else had longer limbs and getting in with crouching LK wasn't really an option. Thankfully he got better in TvC and presumably MvC3 as well.
Ryu was still fun and his regular form was still good, it was the Ken form that really took a hit . His Shinryuken was what really sucked. People could actually jump kick you out of it with the correct timing.
If anything they might make Ken, Akuma, Sean, and Dan costumes for Ryu, not just the Gi but actually make complete skins for him (Spider-man has his different costumes). Even though it would be Ryu's moveset it would be kinda cool to see Dan pull off a Shin Shoryuken
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Somebody's getting fired
http://www.eventhubs.com/images/2010/oct/29/3d-model-haggar-shot-1/
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http://www.eventhubs.com/images/2010/oct/29/3d-model-haggar-shot-1/
Haggar's in? Mite b cool.
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Might be cool? That's the understatement of the decade, right there.
I mean, I can't possibly convey HOW MUCH TIME it has taken, before Capcom has finally decided to put Mike Haggar in a crossover fighting game (let alone a fighting game that isn't Final Fight Revenge). It's a big milestone for Final Fight history.
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Sorry. The parson in the monkey mask distracted me.
Buy anyway, if this is true, then Capsule Computers has finally gotten a clue that Zangeif was overrated and overused. And who is the best representive of Final Fight?
...eh, he'll probably just be a cameo, anyway.
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"Well, hell. It's about time." owob
At this point, all I need is Red Arremer and Strider. They, along with Haggar would be enough to tide me over for a while, and have my "old school" side satiated. 8D
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Red Arremer and Strider.
owob <3
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I hope that it is him, but it could be a prank and it is just a photo-shopped Zangief in his Hagger clothes
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Doesn't bleu cheese crumble? I can't imagine it being something that's easy to make a clean slice through
On the subject of Capcom villains in general... how about...
[spoiler](http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/2479/oni3guildenstern1471310.png)
Guildenstern? Maybe? Please?[/spoiler]
That would be just hilariously awesome. Especially if we get character specific dialogue for pre-boss fights.
I'm loving the return of Captain America's theme, Iron Man's theme is effing awesome, Ryu's theme is pretty damn awesome (I liked his TvC one as well but i like this as well. Very upbeat this time!), Chun-Li's is pretty good but not as interesting an update as the others. Haven't head the rest yet but will put my thoughts on them as i do.
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God of destruction, etc etc.
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/marvelvscapcom3/video/6284010
Unfortunately his english VA is total crap. I was never fond of David Lucas but he was at least closer to the role than JYB.
Thank god for the JP option.
EDIT: And for the love of god can someone just change the topic title already? It's kind of annoying to search for something when it's not even spelled right to begin with.
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God of destruction, etc etc.
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/marvelvscapcom3/video/6284010
Unfortunately his english VA is total crap. I was never fond of David Lucas but he was at least closer to the role than JYB.
Thank god for the JP option.
I don't want to sound disrespectful or anything, but...
SCREW YOU!
I love JYB and I'm joygasming to hear him as Zero. I love him as Lelouch, I love him as Nero from DMC4 and I now love him as Zero. [tornado fang] YEAH!
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Was Lucas not available? Is he going to have to smash Johnny's kneecaps? I'm kidding. He actually sounds good as Zero.
Now it's just a matter of time before they show Mega Man. Who'll be voiced by Yuri Lowenthal.
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Zero & She-Hulk. Kick ass. Lou will be super happy, as she really wanted She-Hulk I think. Hopefully she has a lawyer outfit and a FF outfit as well.
Also, after listening to it the first few times, I'm not that fond of the X2 remix with the MVC3 instrument/techno choice.
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Was Lucas not available? Is he going to have to smash Johnny's kneecaps? I'm kidding. He actually sounds good as Zero.
Now it's just a matter of time before they show Mega Man. Who'll be voiced by Yuri Lowenthal.
Nah. With our luck, Rockman will probably be voiced by Kid Gohan (Colleen Clinkenbeard) in the DB Kai dub. Be prepared for SCREECHING! 8D
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Was Lucas not available? Is he going to have to smash Johnny's kneecaps?
Not wanting to invoke desaster here, but that sure is a fight I'd LOVE to see. I mean, I don't know Gilbertson's background, but Bosch to say the least is actually a competent martial artist.
Since I loved Bosch doing Lelouch/Zero in Code Geass, I think he does a fine job as this Zero, but seriously, why did they not get Gilbertson for the job? I mean, that guy loves being Zero. He'd probably even do it for free.
Now it's just a matter of time before they show Mega Man. Who'll be voiced by Yuri Lowenthal.
Interestingly enough, Suzaku's Japanese VA also voices X...
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I mean, I don't know Gilbertson's background, but Bosch to say the least is actually a competent martial artist.
Not to mention he has access to the Morphing Grid! 8D
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I don't want to sound disrespectful or anything, but...
SCREW YOU!
I love JYB and I'm joygasming to hear him as Zero. I love him as Lelouch, I love him as Nero from DMC4 and I now love him as Zero. [tornado fang] YEAH!
UMAD?
And yes, he was god tier as Nero. (Even if the character was a pussy compared to Dante's SALSA WEAPON GETS). But as ZERO he was nowhere near as good as Lucas.
Also Rock=man Confirmed.
http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/3476/1289838472370.jpg
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Zero & She-Hulk. Kick ass. Lou will be super happy, as she really wanted She-Hulk I think. Hopefully she has a lawyer outfit and a FF outfit as well.
(http://s3.postimage.org/2cizvmhz8/amel_victory_small.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/2cizvmhz8/)
VICTORY!!
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Amaterasu, Wesker and Zero.
I am happy.
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Not to mention he has access to the Morphing Grid! 8D
In his most recent appearance, he got a spiffy morphing sequence, but NO classic "Go Go Power Rangers" them to go with his Black Ranger outfit. Zordon's Death affected his link to the Morphing Grid! His power has been reduced! 8D
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In his most recent appearance, he got a spiffy morphing sequence, but NO classic "Go Go Power Rangers" them to go with his Black Ranger outfit. Zordon's Death affected his link to the Morphing Grid! His power has been reduced! 8D
I saw that cool new morphing sequence. And from what I heard about that, they actually could've used the original theme, but they chose not to because they're just jerkfaces like that.
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I saw that cool new morphing sequence. And from what I heard about that, they actually could've used the original theme, but they chose not to because they're just jerkfaces like that.
Bastards. Maybe the property going back "home" to Saban will indeed be for the best...
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Zero's hair in mvc3 looks funny >0<
tvc zero looks kinda better model wise imo :\
SHE HULK KILLED ARTHUR OMG ;^;
[spoiler]She Hulk did say she was going to be the executioner.... [/spoiler]
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I mean, that guy loves being Zero. He'd probably even do it for free.
This... this made me lol...
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Bastards. Maybe the property going back "home" to Saban will indeed be for the best...
Get Wasserman to do the soundtracks again, and I think it'll be okay!
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Zero's hair in mvc3 looks funny >0<
Glad im not the only one who noticed that.
so for the most part, they are recycling Tatsucap Zero's moveset, and throwing in from what I can see, at least one or two new specials. Did anyone catch what attack name he said for that saber wave special?
Also, while the VA is alright, im disappointed by the lack of Lucas. :C
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Unless my ears fail me, he's saying something like "kouryoudan enbun zero" for his level 3.
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Dark Hold was pretty badass in TvC. I'm sad to see it get replaced by a standard 'saber wave' style move. On the other side of things, rekouha is way better here than in TvC.
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http://www.joystiq.com/2010/11/15/rumor-marvel-vs-capcom-3-roster-to-include-mega-man-frank-wes/
(http://www.joystiq.com/2010/11/15/rumor-marvel-vs-capcom-3-roster-to-include-mega-man-frank-wes/)
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So it's supposedly going to be Classic with an EXE alt? Okay.
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Siiiiiiiiiigh
No Blues, Firestar, or Iceman! :(
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Siiiiiiiiiigh
No Blues, Firestar, or Iceman! :(
Don't give up. Maybe Megaman will get a protoman skin.
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Well well, what have we here? (http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2010/nov/15/gamestop-shuma-gorath-jill-valentine-mvc3-dlc-characters/#comments)
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Don't give up. Maybe Megaman will get a protoman skin.
BAH! NOT THE SAME.
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Blues, we now have an even bigger problem than that, Jill and Shuma Gorath being DLC confirm the only leaked roster list WITHOUT a Megaman as being the real one. Forget about the lack of Protoman, there's no Megaman!
*sigh* Character DLC before the game is even out is bad already, lack of Megaman is just unforgivable.
For reference this is the list I'm talking about
Eh, I'll just post it again for fun, but it's for the last time.
Marvel
Galactus (Boss)
Taskmaster (unlock)
Shuma-Gorath (DLC)
She-Hulk
Deadpool
Captain America
X-23
Magneto
Modok
Hulk
Spider-Man
Dr. Doom
Sentinel
Storm
Phoenix/Dark Phoenix
Super Skrull
Dormammu
Wolverine
Iron Man
Capcom
Amaterasu
Ryu
Rad Spencer
Chun Li
C. Viper
Hsien-ko
Jill (DLC)
Chris
Wesker
Dante
Trish
Arthur
Felicia
Morrigan
Viewtiful Joe
Tron Bonne
Mike Haggar
Akuma (unlock)
Zero
Edgeworth and Phoenix Wright make cameos in She-Hulk's ending. I think I might be missing a character, but it's 38 for the roster.
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http://www.joystiq.com/2010/11/16/marvel-vs-capcom-3-dlc-jill-valentine-shuma-gor/
Now I have to buy 2 special editions. This at least confirms that where might be more characters on the way after the release.
Blues, we now have an even bigger problem than that, Jill and Shuma Gorath being DLC confirm the only leaked roster list WITHOUT a Megaman as being the real one. Forget about the lack of Protoman, there's no Megaman!
*sigh* Character DLC before the game is even out is bad already, lack of Megaman is just unforgivable.
For reference this is the list I'm talking about
As for the list, if it isn't an offical release from Capcom or Marvel I wouldn't even worry about it. Its best to wait till it been comfirmed before we get excited or pissed about MegaMan. If he doesn't make the 1st cut I am sure that he would show up as DLC later.
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Dark Hold was pretty badass in TvC. I'm sad to see it get replaced by a standard 'saber wave' style move. On the other side of things, rekouha is way better here than in TvC.
Notice that the Saber Wave was a level 1 Super...
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If he doesn't make the 1st cut I am sure that he would show up as DLC later.
And that's my problem with this.
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Dark Hold was pretty badass in TvC. I'm sad to see it get replaced by a standard 'saber wave' style move.
At least they are giving him a new move rather than 100% recycling him.
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Blues, we now have an even bigger problem than that, Jill and Shuma Gorath being DLC confirm the only leaked roster list WITHOUT a Megaman as being the real one. Forget about the lack of Protoman, there's no Megaman!
*sigh* Character DLC before the game is even out is bad already, lack of Megaman is just unforgivable.
For reference this is the list I'm talking about
It's MegaMan. It'd be a bit of a strange move to not have a blue bomber of some sort appear.
I had a similar "it's _____" 'feeling' with Spider-Man too.
So...yeah. I have faith or something.
Zero's voice will need to grow on me a bit.
Okay, scratch that. The only problem I had with the trailer was his "TARGET ACQUIRED!".
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Not a big fan of his X2 theme, to be honest. I would almost say they should have gone with a remix of:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWnJyEye9r0[/youtube]
As it is, it's just as obnoxiously synthy, but probably isn't as recognizeable (because really, who played Command Mission outside of the usual suspects?)
EDIT: Or this:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgsBH3zURt8[/youtube]
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Blues, we now have an even bigger problem than that, Jill and Shuma Gorath being DLC confirm the only leaked roster list WITHOUT a Megaman as being the real one. Forget about the lack of Protoman, there's no Megaman!
*sigh* Character DLC before the game is even out is bad already, lack of Megaman is just unforgivable.
For reference this is the list I'm talking about
*No Thor*
Fake.
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^
I think I might be missing a character, but it's 38 for the roster.
He's accounted for, just not mentioned (he was already revealed then anyways).
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Hsien-ko in that list also means it's fake. There was a list of deconfirmations a while back, one of which was that there would be no more Darkstalkers characters aside from Morrigan and Felicia.
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I am aware, and it's been discussed already (not here of course). All Darkstalker characters haven't been outright disconfirmed, just Demitri and Talbain. Also, when someone reliable that does know something tells everyone to reread Nitsuuma's Darkstalkers quote it probably means something.
Of course, it's still a wait and see situation, but for me the whole Jill and Shuma Gorath DLC thing is WAY too big to be a coincidence.
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Not a big fan of his X2 theme, to be honest. I would almost say they should have gone with a remix of:
I love his X2 theme. I just don't really care for the MVC3 remix of it.
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I dont mind it so far. Im waiting to hear it in full without the battle sounds.
After all, I always loved Beamsaber Beat Zero.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E82vzha748E
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I am really happy that DLC Characters are confirmed. I am looking forward in seeing what else they have in store for the game.
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"Your name's Zero? Hope you don't fight like one." Captain America is the man. Anywho, more footage:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP8O85GPNgw[/youtube]
Wow, it sounds like a real saber now.
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How dares he to mock the bishy!?....
and what's with the Captain's voice, he sounds like Stallone.
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Ooof. Spidey knows those Cap beatings alllllllllll too well! XD
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*stares at STM* Hmm.
Anyway, I'm kinda sad to see the roster here... I don't see many characters I'll care to play as. Outside of goofing off, the entire Marvel cast is out. I've grown to hate Comic Book characters more ever since meeting Flash after all.
That said... well, Capcom side then. Zero, probably the most interesting character on that list for me. Megaman Classic... well, ya know? I'd rather it have just been EXE with classic being the "recolor" but it'll just be Megaman with Megaman.EXE being the recolor with no other references to that series.
Whatever.
Tron? Yes, yes I will play as Tron. Wesker? You better [tornado fang]ing believe it... but then, that is it. That is where it gets cold. Maybe I've changed as I got older/lost interest in a lot of the crap that made MVC 2 interesting to me. I'd even argue that MVC 1 was better than 2... I dunno.
I really don't feel it. I'm no longer excited about MVC3.
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ZEROxWeskerxDante With the occasional Trish substitution. That is all that's needed.
And lol, cap got raped for not shutting the hell up.
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Captain America: Your name is Zero? I hope you dont fight like one
*Zero rapes everybody*
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Notice that the Saber Wave was a level 1 Super...
That's why his super meter goes from 4 to 1 in this video when using it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP8O85GPNgw
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That's why his super meter goes from 4 to 1 in this video when using it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP8O85GPNgw
Yeah, my bad, missed that part. I don't see why it matters, though, it's not like Zero players actually use their supers outside of fancy match enders.
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Oh, my mistake. Amaterasu. I'd totally play as her. Also, Captain America is a little [sonic slicer]. >_>
Zero > Wesker > Everyone Else > Captain America.
In retrospect, I'm not saying MVC3 is fail or anything... I just wonder why I've come to the point in life where it doesn't interest me that much. Though, admittedly... Zero looks really awesome in this game. Not sure how I feel about the look of most of the other characters though.
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Also, Captain America is a little [sonic slicer]. >_>
Zero > Wesker > Everyone Else > Captain America.
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I hope you get hit by a truck.
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>_> Sorry, G. Captain America is just as bad, if not worse than Superman.
That said, I hope PB beats you in MVC3. 8D
Hater.
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>_> Sorry, G. Captain America is just as bad, if not worse than Superman.
That said, I hope PB beats you in MVC3. 8D
Hater.
..... what?
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>_> Sorry, G. Captain America is just as bad, if not worse than Superman.
That said, I hope PB beats you in MVC3. 8D
Hater.
A very large truck
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Zero > Wesker > Everyone Else > Captain America.
DOOM > Dante > Tron > Zero > everyone else
Captain America is cool though, so I might give him a chance.
Also, Superman is awesome. SCREW YOU!
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I have nothing but respect for the man with the FROG POWER!!! (4:17 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USxy_q9jWtA)), but Lucas is still the best Zero. And if Johnny's kneecaps must be sacrificed, so be it.
You know...am I the only one who thinks that Zero looks butt-ugly in this game? The model looks like it came from some claymation show. TvC's model may be far technically inferior, but it shows better effort IMHO.
(not sure why Shippuga is orange now, either...)
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Because Magneto is Pringles, they ZERO needed to be the rainbow we call skittles.
And thinking about it captain america always seems to get his ass kicked in the videos. Best one was easily Weskers [tornado fang] You special.
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I have nothing but respect for the man with the FROG POWER!!! (4:17 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USxy_q9jWtA)), but Lucas is still the best Zero. And if Johnny's kneecaps must be sacrificed, so be it.
You know...am I the only one who thinks that Zero looks butt-ugly in this game? The model looks like it came from some claymation show. TvC's model may be far technically inferior, but it shows better effort IMHO.
(not sure why Shippuga is orange now, either...)
He's starting to grow on me honestly. He's like Lucas without the Surferness. XD
Though, Lucas' surferness is what makes his Zero so awesome.
Also, I agree. his model looks very odd. his face and hair being the primary offenders. Why the hell does his hair go up like that out of the back of his helmet?
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Captain America is cool though, so I might give him a chance.
Also, Superman is awesome. SCREW YOU!
A very large truck
They're just walking pieces of patriotic propaganda. I can't respect that, sorry. They're not interesting or amusing and their designs are murder on my eyes.
Not to mention pretentious, like most Pro-America oriented things.
I didn't know having an opinion warranted a truck accident.
..... what?
What? I need more to work on than just that. Sorry.
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They're just walking pieces of patriotic propaganda. I can't respect that, sorry. They're not interesting or amusing and their designs are murder on my eyes.
Not to mention pretentious, like most Pro-America oriented things.
LoL, Superman a walking piece of patriotic propaganda?
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I'm not the only one who sees that... right? >_>
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Ugh. *walks away*
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I'm not the only one who sees that... right? >_>
<_<
Ugh. *walks away*
Just keep in mind that I have far, FAR more extensive knowledge about the character than you, since you're not into Comics like I am.
You can make an argument for Cap, yes, as the purpose of his original creation was literally political propaganda during WWII. The core of the character of Steve Rogers could be put into question as well. However, it's just something you don't know much about.
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While you have more knowledge and immersion into the fandom, I have mere observational skills. Sometimes that is all it takes.
That said, while The Cap'n is well... blatant, Superman is more "subjective" in opinion.
American Invincibility, Good guy always wins (mind you, I realize that isn't always the case in the comics/movies/cartoons/etc.), color scheme and style... it screams America. To me, an outsider.
As such, I can only go off of what I see right in front of me and what little experience I do have. Which is probably more than you might assume, given I didn't grow up in Japan or grow up during the Toonami phase or whatever and actually have more experience with American Cartoons than Japanese Anime, for example.
Just my two cents really. They both scream America. No, not the real one. The imaginary one in every hardcore Patriot's mind. Yeah, that one.
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Zero buffs:
Rekkohoa comes from the sky downward, comboable owob
Sogenmu now copys regular moves instead of just special moves :cookie:
Zero Gravity Hair 8D
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it screams America. To me, an outsider.
Oh im an "insider" and I get what you mean. I see it too.
In Superman's defense though, he wasn't originally that way. He just sort of became this "American Symbol". Supes, the "Boy scout" I mean, come on. "Truth, Justice, and the American Way!"
He sort of became a propaganda tool in the wars. Except, he stayed an American icon.
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While you have more knowledge and immersion into the fandom, I have mere observational skills. Sometimes that is all it takes.
That said, while The Cap'n is well... blatant, Superman is more "subjective" in opinion.
American Invincibility, Good guy always wins (mind you, I realize that isn't always the case in the comics/movies/cartoons/etc.), color scheme and style... it screams America. To me, an outsider.
As such, I can only go off of what I see right in front of me and what little experience I do have. Which is probably more than you might assume, given I didn't grow up in Japan or grow up during the Toonami phase or whatever and actually have more experience with American Cartoons than Japanese Anime, for example.
Just my two cents really. They both scream America. No, not the real one. The imaginary one in every hardcore Patriot's mind. Yeah, that one.
All I'm trying to get across is that your judgment is based on limited observation, so you don't see the full picture nor know the history of said characters. It would be like me discussing RPG's or JRPG's with someone. I don't know much about the stories or characters of these games, so I couldn't have a real discussion about the subject matter.
The point I'm trying to get across is that there is more to both characters than that. I could go into a long drawn out explanation on what both Captain America & Superman represent, but I won't because I doubt you really want to hear it. All I'm asking is that you try to believe me when I say there is so much more to both of them than what you think.
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Perhaps, but Superman's image itself has become an Icon of sorts, even if his in universe character doesnt specifically represent that. (Just a superhero with a heart of gold)
Actually, id argue Superman became more an icon than Cap was. At least, it feels that way.
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All I'm trying to get across is that your judgment is based on limited observation, so you don't see the full picture nor know the history of said characters. It would be like me discussing RPG's or JRPG's with someone. I don't know much about the stories or characters of these games, so I couldn't have a real discussion about the subject matter.
The point I'm trying to get across is that there is more to both characters than that. I could go into a long drawn out explanation on what both Captain America & Superman represent, but I won't because I doubt you really want to hear it. All I'm asking is that you try to believe me when I say there is so much more to both of them than what you think.
Oh! Well yeah, I knew that much. There's more to Flash than he runs fast, after all.
There's more to the Green Lantern than... well, a magic ring. I know a bit about that one myself and the myriad of off branching and what have you. There is more to peanut butter than Jiffy. I can think of a buncha different variants and flavors and the interesting history behind peanut butter.
Anyway. I accept that then, I wasn't entirely sure where you were going with that at first, after all.
Oh well. I still think Captain America is a douche. >_>
Also, he has balls too, given I wouldn't be caught dead in his outfit. Anyway, carry on, gaiz. That's my piece, I don't plan to get too involved after all.
One last question, what IS the name of the current VA for Zero? I think I missed it. I really like him, seems better than Lucas personally. Don't haet me. XD
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His name is Johnny Yong Bosch
>.>
<.<
I still like X7 Zero's VA.
*ducks*
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Zero buffs:
Rekkohoa comes from the sky downward, comboable owob
Sogenmu now copys regular moves instead of just special moves :cookie:
Zero Gravity Hair 8D
You realize that the engine's a bit different than TvC, right? These aren't buffs so much as they are modifications (trust me, Zero never needed any buffs). That said, I've never had trouble combing Rekkoha. 8B
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Perhaps, but Superman's image itself has become an Icon of sorts, even if his in universe character doesnt specifically represent that. (Just a superhero with a heart of gold)
Actually, id argue Superman became more an icon than Cap was. At least, it feels that way.
Of COURSE Superman's image has become an icon. He is an icon. His S is one of the most recognizable symbols in the world. That's because for a lot of people, comic books are modern day myths and legends, much like the Greek Gods of ancient times.
And yes, Superman is more of an icon than Cap. Superman is the most iconic superhero of all time. A close 2nd is Batman.
Oh! Well yeah, I knew that much. There's more to Flash than he runs fast, after all.
There's more to the Green Lantern than... well, a magic ring. I know a bit about that one myself and the myriad of off branching and what have you. There is more to peanut butter than Jiffy. I can think of a buncha different variants and flavors and the interesting history behind peanut butter.
Anyway. I accept that then, I wasn't entirely sure where you were going with that at first, after all.
Oh well. I still think Captain America is a douche. >_>
Also, he has balls too, given I wouldn't be caught dead in his outfit. Anyway, carry on, gaiz. That's my piece, I don't plan to get too involved after all.
Well I can tell you that you're not wrong, so to speak, regarding Flash & GL, as well as most superheroes. In the past, especially with DC, they weren't much more than what you said, being a guy who runs fast & a guy with a magic ring. It's why Marvel was so popular when they came along, because to them the person was more important that the powers, and it changed comics forever.
LoL, and listen I insult Cap ALL the time. I clapped when Tony used his shield to prop his device up in Iron Man 2! 8D
If you or anyone is curious as to my take with what Superman TRULY represents, in my eyes, I'll copy & paste a post I made on another forum regarding the subject.
One last question, what IS the name of the current VA for Zero? I think I missed it. I really like him, seems better than Lucas personally. Don't haet me. XD
His name is ADAM, THE BLACK RANGER! 8) And to be honest, I like him a lot as Zero's VA too!
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His name is Johnny Yong Bosch
>.>
<.<
I still like X7 Zero's VA.
*ducks*
Oh wow... I didn't realize it was Ad-- Johnny. I need to pay more attention to what you people say sometimes!
Awesome. [tornado fang]'n Awesome.
And well, as for Flash and Lantern and all of that, I admittedly didn't know at first (a few years ago) that they had multiple Flashii or multiple Lanterns. And all the extra lore that went into it and how it evolved, etc. etc. So, yeah, while the stuff isn't my speed, I still find that much interesting. Also, I am interested in your thoughts on Superman. Do tell.
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His name is Johnny Yong Bosch
>.>
<.<
I still like X7 Zero's VA.
*ducks*
*insertreallydeepvoice* YOU'VE GOT EXPLAINING TO DO AFTER THIS IS OVER!!!!
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And well, as for Flash and Lantern and all of that, I admittedly didn't know at first (a few years ago) that they had multiple Flashii or multiple Lanterns. And all the extra lore that went into it and how it evolved, etc. etc. So, yeah, while the stuff isn't my speed, I still find that much interesting. Also, I am interested in your thoughts on Superman. Do tell.
Here you go! XD (http://forum.rockmanpm.com/index.php?topic=2900.msg290928#msg290928)
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Well, Ryotaro Okiayu does a deep voiced Zero, so in a way, it fit. :B
Only thing, Merluzzi could have emoted a bit more. His Zero had no personality in X7.
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His name is ADAM, THE BLACK RANGER!
NO. After the way he dissed the frog, he doesn't deserve to be BLACK. 8D
Besides, I never really accepted him having what was Zack's color in the first place. To me, Adam is ZEO RANGER 4: GREEN! 8D
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NO. After the way he dissed the frog, he doesn't deserve to be BLACK. 8D
Besides, I never really accepted him having what was Zack's color in the first place. To me, Adam is ZEO RANGER 4: GREEN! 8D
Haha, fair enough. Zeo was my favorite season anyway! 8D
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Oh Great. PB is in full blown DC mode now. Excuse me while I go walk in front of a truck.
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Oh Great. PB is in full blown DC mode now. Excuse me while I go walk in front of a truck.
The same one chasing Ares, or a different one?
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Well, Ryotaro Okiayu does a deep voiced Zero, so in a way, it fit. :B
Goku is voiced by a woman in Japan, so he should have a female's voice in English amirite?
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The same one chasing Ares, or a different one?
(http://d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net/iss/600w/674/226741/5703751_1.jpg)
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Goku is voiced by a woman in Japan, so he should have a female's voice in English amirite?
Completely not what I meant.
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Goku is voiced by a woman in Japan, so he should have a female's voice in English amirite?
MM8 anyone? Dr. Fudd?
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That was a fitting VA. And I stand by that.
Light could ask for no better.
Also, got to read that post you made, PB. It was rather enlightening on the subject of Clark Kent as well as Superman. It... makes a lot of sense, really. Thanks for the interesting read.
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No problemo. T'was my pleasure.
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You know, I'm wondering something. Zero's attacks are all based on his in-game specials, and the new lightning move looks to me like X8's Raikousen. So...what IS that mid-air super wave supposed to be?
I can't quite make out what he's saying, but it looks kinda like Mikazukizan (C-Sword, X5).
EDITS: Scratch that. Examining my list of Zero-attacks, I'm pretty sure he's saying Rekkyoudan (Trilobyte, X8). Seems to be a projectile-counter move. If you look REAL close, you can see a blue ball where he's slashing.
His name is ADAM, THE BLACK RANGER! 8) And to be honest, I like him a lot as Zero's VA too!
Question: Is it so wrong that today I started imagining David Yost as X?
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You know, I'm wondering something. Zero's attacks are all based on his in-game specials, and the new lightning move looks to me like X8's Raikousen. So...what IS that mid-air super wave supposed to be? I can't quite make out what he's saying, but it looks kinda like Mikazukizan (C-Sword, X5).
Unless my ears fail me he says "kouryoudan enbun zero"...so what would that be?
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Absolutely nothing (which is what you are about to become...).
I'm positive that's Rekkyoudan. Once you know what you're looking at, you can pretty clearly see the projectile he's countering. It is rather bizarre for his three-bar attack to be so specialized, though.
Also I took notice Zero is doing the Rekkoha with his buster rather than his fist. o-O
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I noticed that too. Its weird, but I can buy it.
Rekkyoudan
Wait, so they turned a saber upgrade into an actual attack? Well that's interesting. And at the same time, they could have done it differently.
Well at least it looks cool. owob
Personally, I thought it sounded like "Shoryudan Gekou Zero" or something.
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Question: Is it so wrong that today I started imagining David Yost as X?
Answer: Morphanominal!
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So , ah....the Special Edition has codes for free downloads of the DLC characters (Shuma-Gorath and RE5 Jill Valentine).
So, I guess DLC characters are confirmed. C'mon Gene and Strider!
Also, if what I'm hearing is right, Frank West, Chuck Greene and Taskmaster are also on the official roster.
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His name is Johnny Yong Bosch
So... they had the voice of ZERO to do Zero?
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Nero
ZERO
Zero
Johnny is becoming an ero voice actor
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Nero
ZERO
Zero
Johnny is becoming an ero voice actor
Which is hilarious considering the Nico Douga meme that Zero's attached to >U<
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Wait, so they turned a saber upgrade into an actual attack? Well that's interesting. And at the same time, they could have done it differently.
Well, it's not as if the other attacks weren't reworked a bit even in TvC, most notably Sogenmu (X5's Twin Dream) basically functioning with the same effect as XCM's Heat Haze. Hienkyaku's obviously MUCH more flexible as well.
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Hienkyaku is now multi directional.
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Well, it's not as if the other attacks weren't reworked a bit even in TvC, most notably Sogenmu (X5's Twin Dream) basically functioning with the same effect as XCM's Heat Haze.
At this point I'm wondering why they just didn't use Heat Haze in the first place! I like it a bit more, style-wise.
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I guess they thought Sogenmu would be better recognized. Possibly better respected by Inafune (he objected to an X RPG).
Or hell, there's no guarantee these guys (besides the character artist) were even familiar with XCM; it could have been coincidence.
Hienkyaku is now multi directional.
As it was in TvC. That was my point.
Ironically, Zero DID get a multi-directional air-dash in the X-series, but that was Hisuishou (F-Splasher, X5). Needless to say, they probably chose Hienkyaku for TvC on the grounds of it being solely evasive and not offensive.
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Sogenmu's function in TvC and MvC3 isn't supposed to be like it is in X5. It's Yun's Genei Jin.
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Why has this not been ripped yet?
http://www.capcom.co.jp/mvsc3/ch_zero.html
And anyways, overall aside from the 1st 20 seconds or so it sucks. It's not as god tier as the actual SNES version that had the sense of ROCK in it.
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Zero's REAL MvC3 theme. 8)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZWkT6x6D1Q[/youtube]
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Except that's X's X4 theme. >.>
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I was expecting his X4 theme..... oh well.
I wonder what Classic Megaman's theme would be...
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The Fight That Never Ends (Intro Stage from MM7)
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Why has this not been ripped yet?
http://www.capcom.co.jp/mvsc3/ch_zero.html
And anyways, overall aside from the 1st 20 seconds or so it sucks. It's not as god tier as the actual SNES version that had the sense of ROCK in it.
Well, it's no Beamsabre Beat (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gAFGyC3f_0), but it could have been worse. At least unlike MHX's Zero theme, the MvC3 theme does eventually loop back to the SNES-inspired greatness.
Also, all the MvC3 rips you need, right here (http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2010/nov/19/zero-and-she-hulk-marvel-vs-capcom-3-themes/). Thank God for Google. 8)
Except that's X's X4 theme. >.>
-AC
Who in the HELL confuses X's and Zero's themes in X4?
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Who in the HELL confuses X's and Zero's themes in X4?
Not the person who made the video, I think:
I just finished like an hour or so ago. I took X's theme from My favorite megaman X title of all time. 4 that is.
I guess the question is why he would intentionally go for X's SL theme instead of Zero's.
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I guess the question is why he would intentionally go for X's SL theme instead of Zero's.
Well, personally I prefer X's version. I'm not saying that using it for Zero was the best idea, but it's still a good remix any way you look at it. Might as well post his Classic MM concept as well, which was much better:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9izo2eyHQ4&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL[/youtube]
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Why has this not been ripped yet?
http://www.capcom.co.jp/mvsc3/ch_zero.html
And anyways, overall aside from the 1st 20 seconds or so it sucks. It's not as god tier as the actual SNES version that had the sense of ROCK in it.
...The more i listen the more it grows on me >_>;;; Damn you Capcom!
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Might as well post his Classic MM concept as well, which was much better:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9izo2eyHQ4&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL[/youtube]
This is much better
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P027mNnQfks[/youtube]
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...The more i listen the more it grows on me >_>;;; Damn you Capcom!
It does, doesn't it? Kinda like the Sonic4 soundtrack.
Swap the instruments and I think we've got Zero's intro stage theme for Xtreme3. >U<
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Yeah. its catchy. Like you said, its certainly no beamsaber beat, but its not that bad. And although it does the MHX thing of adding a part after the initial loop, first off, not only is the added part actually GOOD, (unlike MHX's Zero theme, where it sounds more like they were trying to rip off the MMZ version and didnt even do it right) and 2, iot eventually loops back. So im good with it.
Now, if we are talking about great X2 remixes, U-GEN made one of the better ones.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOXcV00QV0Q[/youtube]
Oh God.
This is now a Mega Man remix thread.
But you know what they're all (the Zero remixes) missing?
Moar lifebar SFX. 8D
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e10VtlRCQL0[/youtube]
This count?
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I wish I still had the voice/sfx-less version of Beamsabre Beat ZERO that Darkesword rendered for me a long time ago. Damn those hard drive crashes.
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e10VtlRCQL0[/youtube]
This count?
Love that one. The mix works surprisingly well.
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It does, doesn't it? Kinda like the Sonic4 soundtrack.
Swap the instruments and I think we've got Zero's intro stage theme for Xtreme3. >U<
I've thankfully gotten over the Sonic 4 soundtrack thanks to the Sonic Colours OST... it takes one evil to smite another i suppose >_>;
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I wish I still had the voice/sfx-less version of Beamsabre Beat ZERO that Darkesword rendered for me a long time ago. Damn those hard drive crashes.
Well, there's always V1. Was still on his site last I checked (and if it isn't, I have it). But yeah, the loss of effect-less V2 is unfortunate.
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More info about MvsC3 DLC
http://playstationlifestyle.net/2010/11/23/marvel-vs-capcom-3-getting-more-dlc/ (http://playstationlifestyle.net/2010/11/23/marvel-vs-capcom-3-getting-more-dlc/)
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I had a vision......
Pheonix Wright was made DLC....
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Strider Hiryu got Deconfirmed. ;^;
Why?
[spoiler]Niitsuma said he didnt fit the theme of the game's western audience[/spoiler]
O:<
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[spoiler]the theme of the game's western audience[/spoiler]
wtf
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Hahaha, great idea! (http://www.capcom-unity.com/melodious/blog/2010/11/30/marvel_vs._capcom_3_foooooooooood_fight!!!!)
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wtf
Sorry about my fail english -AC
"Strider Hiryu is popular overseas as well, we took him out of Marvel vs. Capcom 3, because he didn't fit in with its concept (American Comic Book Heroes)."
Frank West in TVC says hi and Amaterasu says hi also
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Because Zero is totally western Comic book.
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Disappointing, but I'll live.
The worst thing about this is the excuse. It's the same excuse that they've been using for the last I-don't-know-how-many deconfirmations. "Nope, he won't fit. Nope, she won't fit either. He doesn't fit this either." I wasn't aware that a crossover had to make sense and fit a theme.
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Disappointing, but I'll live.
The worst thing about this is the excuse. It's the same excuse that they've been using for the last I-don't-know-how-many deconfirmations. "Nope, he won't fit. Nope, she won't fit either. He doesn't fit this either." I wasn't aware that a crossover had to make sense and fit a theme.
I read such things as: "We are too lazy to put him/her in the game. DEAL WITH IT!"
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Guys, I think Niitsuma made that Stupid excuse becuase he couldnt get Strider's Copyrights
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Guys, I think Niitsuma made that Stupid excuse becuase he couldnt get Strider's Copyrights
Ya think? :X
That doesn't excuse the excuse for me. He would've kept a lot more dignity just saying "we couldn't get all the rights", instead of just "he didn't fit" with no explanation. :/
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http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2010/dec/01/voice-actor-listed-mega-man-mvc3/
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IMDB? As in the IMBD that said 50 Cent was the VA for Epona in TP?
Grain of salt time.
For the record, I have nothing against this if it's legit.
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THANK
YOU!
People are so stupid and gullible these days :\
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Lets hope its true.....
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Lets hope its true.....
why? Vee hate megamaaan... he ruins eVErYzInG... eheheheheheheh.
[spoiler]LOL IMDB[/spoiler]
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Uhhhhh..............................
Dee Bradley Baker ... Viewtiful Joe / Amaterasu (voice: English version)
Zachary Gordon ... Megaman (voice: English version)
Tara Strong ... X-23 / Tron Bonne (voice: English version)
Maria Canals-Barrera ... She-Hulk (voice) (rumored)
Brian Bloom ... Captain America (voice)
Steve Blum ... Wolverine (voice)
Josh Keaton ... Spider-Man (voice)
Roger Craig Smith ... Chris Redfield (voice: English version)
Alicia Coppola ... She-Hulk (voice)
Johnny Yong Bosch ... Zero (voice: English version)
Charles Adler ... Super-Skrull (voice)
Laura Bailey ... Chun-Li / Morrigan Aensland (voice: English version)
Tom Kane ... Magneto (voice)
Fred Tatasciore ... Hulk (voice)
D.C. Douglas ... Albert Wesker (voice: English version)
Eric Loomis ... Iron Man (voice)
Jonathan Adams ... Dormammu (voice)
David Kaye ... Dr. Doom (voice)
Wally Wingert ... M.O.D.O.K. (voice)
Danielle Burgio ... Trish (voice: English version)
Kaj-Erik Eriksen ... X (voice) (rumored)
Reuben Langdon ... Dante (voice: English version)
Mike Patton ... Nathan Spencer (voice: English version)
Kyle Hebert ... Ryu (voice: English version)
David Boat ... Thor (voice)
Patricia Ja Lee ... Jill Valentine (voice: English version)
Atsuko Tanaka ... Trish (voice: Japanese version)
G.K. Bowes ... Felicia (voice: English version)
Fumiko Orikasa ... Chun-Li (voice: Japanese version)
Ryôtarô Okiayu ... Zero (voice: Japanese version)
Jôji Nakata ... Albert Wesker (voice: Japanese version)
Toshiyuki Morikawa ... Dante (voice: Japanese version)
Rie Tanaka ... Morrigan Aensland (voice: Japanese version)
Kae Araki ... Felicia (voice: Japanese version)
Mayumi Iizuka ... Tron Bonne (voice: Japanese version)
Hiroki Takahashi ... Ryu (voice: Japanese version)
Shinji Kawada ... Viewtiful Joe (voice: Japanese version)
Posted on: December 01, 2010, 08:35:28 PM
Granted its IMDB but still.......
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Wow, shame on me. I just noticed that Spidey IS voiced by Josh Keaton, his Spectacular Spider-Man VA. He just does him a bit older, but that's definitely him.
This makes me all kinds of happy. He's probably tied for my favorite Spidey VA with NPH, if not my favorite.
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Here's some explanations:
Dee Bradley Baker CONFIRMED that he isnt voicing Joe, and that he wasnt notified when Capcom picked a va for Joe
Who knows, maybe X's voice actor is for ZERO'S ENDING
IMDB Said that 50 Cent was voicing for esponsa in Twilight Princess. >0<
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I hope not. If X isn't playable I don't want him to be in his ending as a cameo, I rather he not be in the game.
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I hope not. If X isn't playable I don't want him to be in his ending as a cameo, I rather he not be in the game.
Why? I don't understand your reasoning. What's wrong with being a cameo, granted, it would be good if he's playable but... what?
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Why? I don't understand your reasoning. What's wrong with being a cameo, granted, it would be good if he's playable but... what?
Would something along the lines of "because it's a gyat-damn tease!" be an acceptable answer? 8D
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Would something along the lines of "because it's a gyat-damn tease!" be an acceptable answer? 8D
"They call him the blue bomber cause he blue balls ya!"
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"They call him the blue bomber cause he blue balls ya!"
He was piloting the Blue airplane that took down the twin towers 8D
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"They call him the blue bomber cause he blue balls ya!"
8D
But seriously...now with my boy Strider de-confirmed, it's really been the dagger that has killed a lot of my possible hype for future reveals (especially since the leaker on GAF's little list is looking all the more real).
I still can't get over the fact that it's looking like almost nobody from the Capcom-side of the original MvC is set to return, besides Ryu and Chunli (with Haggar being an effective upgrade of Zangief). Amidst all the possibilities of who would/wouldn't make the cut, I would have thought the likes of Strider and friggin' Captain Commando would have been sure-fire bets to be on the shortlist for the 3rd game. Obviously, Niitsuma and his disagree...even ol' blue boy himself may, at best, be DLC.
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8D
But seriously...now with my boy Strider de-confirmed, it's really been the dagger that has killed a lot of my possible hype for future reveals (especially since the leaker on GAF's little list is looking all the more real).
I still can't get over the fact that it's looking like almost nobody from the Capcom-side of the original MvC is set to return, besides Ryu and Chunli (with Haggar being an effective upgrade of Zangief). Amidst all the possibilities of who would/wouldn't make the cut, I would have thought the likes of Strider and friggin' Captain Commando would have been sure-fire bets to be on the shortlist for the 3rd game. Obviously, Niitsuma and his disagree...even ol' blue boy himself may, at best, be DLC.
Well the one hope you can have is future DLC might allow for these characters to be playable later.
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He was piloting the Blue airplane that took down the twin towers 8D
If that made any sense, it would probably be in really bad taste. I don't have much tolerance for 9/11 jokes because only 1% of them are funny. Consider this a warning.
Ben: Don't start with that pessimistic bs. Just because Mega Man hasn't been officially announced yet doesn't mean he's going to be DLC. There's still plenty of time for them to announce and deconfirm characters.
And about the X thing...are we sure they're talking about Mega Man X? Cause a quick search found me this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_(Marvel_Comics)) and this. (http://marvel.wikia.com/Marvin_Hoffman_(Earth-616))
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Well the one hope you can have is future DLC might allow for these characters to be playable later.
I still mantain my opinion that the idea of Mega Man of all characters as DLC is blasphemy.
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He was piloting the Blue airplane that took down the twin towers 8D
(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/7097/1289297501555.jpg)
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Ben: Don't start with that pessimistic bs. Just because Mega Man hasn't been officially announced yet doesn't mean he's going to be DLC. There's still plenty of time for them to announce and deconfirm characters.
All I know is that I'm going with the leaked list from a GAFfer associate, which has been right on the money thus far, right down to confirming Jill and Shuma being DLC. And this was weeks before the "Gamestop leak", no less.
His list is as follows:
[spoiler]Eh, I'll just post it again for fun, but it's for the last time.
Marvel
Galactus (Boss)
Taskmaster (unlock)
Shuma-Gorath (DLC)
She-Hulk
Deadpool
Captain America
X-23
Magneto
Modok
Hulk
Spider-Man
Dr. Doom
Sentinel
Storm
Phoenix/Dark Phoenix (HnB's note: if we go by how Jean Grey and Emma Frost were de-confirmed a while ago as well, that might point to either Rachel or maybe even a tie-in relating to Hope in the comics)
Super Skrull
Dormammu
Wolverine
Iron Man
Capcom
Amaterasu
Ryu
Rad Spencer
Chun Li
C. Viper
Hsien-ko
Jill (DLC)
Chris
Wesker
Dante
Trish
Arthur
Felicia
Morrigan
Viewtiful Joe
Tron Bonne
Mike Haggar
Akuma (unlock)
Zero
Edgeworth and Phoenix Wright make cameos in She-Hulk's ending. I think I might be missing a character, but it's 38 for the roster.[/spoiler]
- http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=24410278&postcount=1
And about the X thing...are we sure they're talking about Mega Man X? Cause a quick search found me this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_(Marvel_Comics)) and this. (http://marvel.wikia.com/Marvin_Hoffman_(Earth-616))
X was de-confirmed a while ago, back around PAX in September.
- Seth was talking about how characters mentioned in the suggestion box were too late, because the roster was pretty close to being finalized at that point, and mentioned X alongside Phoenix (Wright) and Gene.
- And with Nitsuma saying that there will be a X rep, YES, Zero will be in it, pretty much also confirms that TvC characters count as veterans.
- Seth said that X fans would be happy[/quote]
- http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=23160592&postcount=1
The last two bits were basically rumors at the time, but they, too, eventually came to pass, as we now know Zero is in the game. So yeah, Mega Man X likely won't be in this game, unless DLC some how makes it that way. And I honestly can't see X winning out over the original, if it came down to it...
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Classic and EXE are far more likely than X. I can't use the Inafune defense to shoot down X hopefuls since he's now off doing whatever an Inafune does (sit in his underwear at home and blog while drawing Zero carving up the Capcom logo?) but those two along with Trigger have been more popular Mega Mans in odd ways that don't necessarily related to game sales (Classic charm vs. Kid friendly vs. Holy [parasitic bomb], why did it take this long for Legends 3 to come out?)
X's popularity was mostly killed with the lovely string of titles called X5-X8 (put your personal feelings for the titles aside, you know they all have issues.) MHX tried to rebolster it, but it just didn't give the series that vital resuscitative spark it desperately needed.
But don't despair. X still isn't the absolute bottom rung... the ZX Megas are the worst of them all.
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Classic and EXE are far more likely than X. I can't use the Inafune defense to shoot down X hopefuls since he's now off doing whatever an Inafune does (sit in his underwear at home and blog while drawing Zero carving up the Capcom logo?) but those two along with Trigger have been more popular Mega Mans in odd ways that don't necessarily related to game sales (Classic charm vs. Kid friendly vs. Holy [parasitic bomb], why did it take this long for Legends 3 to come out?)
X's popularity was mostly killed with the lovely string of titles called X5-X8 (put your personal feelings for the titles aside, you know they all have issues.) MHX tried to rebolster it, but it just didn't give the series that vital resuscitative spark it desperately needed.
But don't despair. X still isn't the absolute bottom rung... the ZX Megas are the worst of them all.
What about Sabaru and War Rock? They have a better chance?
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If that made any sense, it would probably be in really bad taste. I don't have much tolerance for 9/11 jokes because only 1% of them are funny. Consider this a warning.
o-O
It was just a joke....
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Classic and EXE are far more likely than X.
Not so much EXE, because he was also de-confirmed. Remember, Americans (who MvC3 is directly marketed towards) largely don't share the EXE love that Japan does. 8D
X's popularity was mostly killed with the lovely string of titles called X5-X8 (put your personal feelings for the titles aside, you know they all have issues.) MHX tried to rebolster it, but it just didn't give the series that vital resuscitative spark it desperately needed.
It was also due to poor placement/timing. Any body could have told Inafking that releasing the Rockman game duo on the PSP, during the time frame they were released, was a BAD idea. The PSP wasn't a hot gaming commodity in Japan until Monster Hunter Portable made it so, and gave the PSP a "Pokemon" type of phenomenon of its own.
I'd be willing to bet that if Inafking and Capcom had waited a little while longer, and released the Rockman games AFTER the MHF boom, they would have been much better received, just like a whole slew of other PSP games/series were made much relevant thanks to MHF. To me, it's pretty telling when both IHX and RockRock alike a had a brief surge of sales posthumously (http://protodudesrockmancorner.blogspot.com/2008/04/first-rockman-rockman-now-ihx.html), because a whole new slew of PSP owners finally got around to trying those games out and actually saw that they were a decent time to be had.
And another note, X was at the top of poll data taken from Nico about what Capcom characters would Japanese gamers like to see in the game. Results as follows:
1. X (Megaman X)
2. Date Masamune (Sengoku Basara)
3. Vergil (Devil May Cry)
4. Megaman.EXE (MegaMan Battle Network)
5. Leon Kennedy (Resident Evil 4)
6. Pheonix Wright (Ace Attorney)
7. Ken Masters (Street Fighter)
8. Cammy (Street Fighter 2)
9. Tabasa (aka Tessa, Warzard aka Red Earth)
10. Guy (Final Fight)
11. Cody (Final Fight)
12. Sanada Yukimura (Sengoku Basara)
13. Kasuga (Sengoku Basara)
14. Bass.EXE (MegaMan Battle Network)
15. Maeda Keiji (Sengoku Basara)
16. Gene (God Hand)
17. Batsu (Project Justice)
18. Akira (Project Justice)
19. Jedah (Vampire Savior)
20. Jin Saotome (Cyberbots Full Metal Madness)
21. Saki (Quiz Nanairo Dreams, TvC)
22. Kaijin no Soki (Onimusha Dawn of Dreams)
23. Leviathan (Megaman Zero)
24. Kirin (Monster Hunter, A Unicorn Monster)
25. Grey (Megaman ZX Advent)
26. Roll (Megaman)
27. Rock Volnutt (Megaman Legends)
28. Harp Note (Megaman Star Force)
29. Alex (Street Fighter 3)
30. Ingrid (Capcom Fighting Jam/Evolution)
31. Captain Commando (Captain Commando)
32. Chuck Green (Dead Rising 2)
33. Edward (Falcon? Fokker? Power Stone)
34. Oda Nobunaga (Sengoku Basara)
35. Ryu (Breath of Fire)
36. Demitri (Darkstalkers)
37. Gallon (aka Jon Talbain, Darkstalkers)
38. Red Arremer (Ghouls n' Ghosts)
39. Zack (Treasure Island Z: Barbaros' Treasure)
40. Sonson (Sonson, MvC2)
41. Regina (Dino Crisis)
42. Sheva Alomar (Resident Evil 5)
43. Nash (aka Charlie, Street Fighter Alpha)
44. Vanessa (P.N.0.3.)
45. PTX-40 (Lost Planet)
46. Leo (Warzard/Red Earth)
47. Dhalsim (Street Fighter 2)
48. Unknown Soldier 1P (Lost World)
49. Sigma (Megaman X)
50. Yagyu Jubei (Onimusha)
51. William Gray (Dark Void)
52. Hayato Kanzaki (Star Gladiator)
53. Maximo (Maximo)
54. Michelle Heart (Ares no Tsubasa/Legendary Wings)
55. Lou (Three Wonders)
So it would seem safe to believe that, no matter how poorly Capcom may have treated X in these last few years, he's still loved in Japan just as much as he is elsewhere. It's only a matter of time before Capcom will actually capitalize on that...
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EXE,
de-confirmed.
[objection!]
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You're the only one who would object to that.
Everyone else is glad.
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Speak for yourself >__>
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Everyone else is glad.
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Is everyone you?
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I'm just indifferent. But if I intended to own the game (I don't have an HD console), then I'd certainly prefer Rock to Hub.
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He just doesnt fit.
he isnt a fan favorite unlike any OTHER character from EXE.
Hell, I wouldnt be surprised if one of the other navis made it in. Like Colonel, or hell, maybe even Forte EXE or Zero EXE.
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If Zero wasnt in the game, Forte EXE would replace him.
4 Reps for one series seems extreme.
THIS ISNT STREET FIGHTER VS X MEN 2. THIS IS MARVEL VS CAPCOM 3
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o-O
It was just a joke....
There are some things you don't joke about... >_>
Anywho, EXE deconfirmed, big whoop. I'd still like to see X; then again, maybe the reason he isn't in is his whole "I ABHOR VIOLENCE" thing he had in X7 and they felt it fit or something.
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There are some things you don't joke about... >_>
Anywho, EXE deconfirmed, big whoop. I'd still like to see X; then again, maybe the reason he isn't in is his whole "I ABHOR VIOLENCE" thing he had in X7 and they felt it fit or something.
X became a peace pussy in X7
He got over it a little in X8
He got extremely Violent in Rockman Online
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I'd still much rather see X than any other Mega Man.
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Storm and Crimson Viper confirmed.
http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/marvelvscapcom3/videos.html?filter=most_recent
I am unmoved, but more importantly, these are two more additions from the leaked list I posted that have just been confirmed.
His list is as follows:
[spoiler]Eh, I'll just post it again for fun, but it's for the last time.
Marvel
Galactus (Boss)
Taskmaster (unlock)
Shuma-Gorath (DLC)
She-Hulk
Deadpool
Captain America
X-23
Magneto
Modok
Hulk
Spider-Man
Dr. Doom
Sentinel
Storm
Phoenix/Dark Phoenix (HnB's note: if we go by how Jean Grey and Emma Frost were de-confirmed a while ago as well, that might point to either Rachel or maybe even a tie-in relating to Hope in the comics)
Super Skrull
Dormammu
Wolverine
Iron Man
Capcom
Amaterasu
Ryu
Rad Spencer
Chun Li
C. Viper
Hsien-ko
Jill (DLC)
Chris
Wesker
Dante
Trish
Arthur
Felicia
Morrigan
Viewtiful Joe
Tron Bonne
Mike Haggar
Akuma (unlock)
Zero
Edgeworth and Phoenix Wright make cameos in She-Hulk's ending. I think I might be missing a character, but it's 38 for the roster.[/spoiler]
- http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=24410278&postcount=1
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At least the way he described how Viper played sounded kinda interesting with her having Focus Attacks and stuff, and if I'm honest I've always thought that she was a perfect fit for Marvel (mind you, that doesn't mean I wouldn't rather have someone else like, say, CapCom instead of her).
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I was expecting Juri, but this will do...
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I thought Crimson Viper was confirmed ages ago? Or was that some other fightan gaem?
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She was "heavily suspected" by the Character Silhouette display from months ago, then backed up the roster leaked I posted above. NOW she's officially confirmed.
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I was expecting Juri, but this will do...
That who I thought they'd pick. But you know what, Viper looks pretty fun sped up.
Ben: No more Darkstalkers characters aside from Morrigan and Felicia means no Hsien-ko which means that list ain't 100% right. Also, I don't believe Akuma for a second.
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I already commented on that when you first questioned me about it Sato.
And honestly, remember TvC and SSF4? At this point the best we can hope for is that the list is not complete IMO =/
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Storm and C. Viper? No complaints here. Although...
So... you doin' anything after this?
Good ol' Tony. That made my day.
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Ben: No more Darkstalkers characters aside from Morrigan and Felicia means no Hsien-ko which means that list ain't 100% right. Also, I don't believe Akuma for a second.
You're actually going off a bit of a mis-quote. What Niitsuma said on his twitter weeks ago was that "there are no more Darkstalkers to be had beyond the ones that are already in the game". That was not to be inferred as "no more Darkstalkers. period.", but rather, if Niitsuma could have added one more, Gallon (Talbain) would have been his very next pick. In short, count on Lei-Lei (Hsien-ko) being in the game.
And as for Akuma....really? You say that, knowing that Capcom has just finished revealing "EVIL! Ryu" and "ONI! Akuma" for SSF4 AE? 8D
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TIE-PHOOOOOOOOON!
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:O :O :O :O
Holy [parasitic bomb], C. Viper looks amazing
I noticed something....
The first super she does in her reveil trailer looks like..... Scrap Android
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You're actually going off a bit of a mis-quote. What Niitsuma said on his twitter weeks ago was that "there are no more Darkstalkers to be had beyond the ones that are already in the game". That was not to be inferred as "no more Darkstalkers. period.", but rather, if Niitsuma could have added one more, Gallon (Talbain) would have been his very next pick. In short, count on Lei-Lei (Hsien-ko) being in the game.
And as for Akuma....really? You say that, knowing that Capcom has just finished revealing "EVIL! Ryu" and "ONI! Akuma" for SSF4 AE? 8D
I was only going by what I read on Eventhubs. I'm not following the stuff closely at all cause I'm not that big a fan. (Neither are you, which makes me wonder why you care so much about the news.) I've looked up the exact quote. And you're right that it doesn't say there'll be no more DS guys period. But it doesn't say there will be more, either. It just says he'd have liked to put Talbain in. That alone is pretty vague as to other characters' fates.
But kensk knows all apparently. So we'll see. However, there was something else about shotos possibly not being in either. I don't know the whole story on that. And frankly, I don't care, so no need to educate me. But how should the new boss characters in SSIVAE relate to vanilla Akuma being in this game?
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No offence Ben but I hope/pray your list is wrong only because Megaman isn't on it. Galactus also bothers me, because he is going to be huge so I doubt he will be playable and on that list he is part of the 38 characters which makes you wonder who is missing on the Marvel side. On top of that I was at the comic con reading for the storyline for the game and it mentions that "a great and powerful threat has been awakened". If that is about the final boss then I don't see how it can be Galactus, he isn't asleep, nor does he sleep between feedings. Plus I would think that if Galactus in the game that they would have included one of his Heralds also.
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This is going to turn into a SSF4 Disscussion but.....
"Oni Akuma" probably isnt Akuma at all.
Maybe it's Dark Hadou in physical form, that took Akuma's appearance due to him using it "alot"
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At this point, I don't particularly care who else is/isn't in. Sure, favorites not making it will be a disappointment, but I'll live.
I still want Gun.Smoke.
I'm trying to piece together a team right now out of everyone revealed so far. Right now I'm leaning towards Amaterasu/Spencer/Spidey for zipline fun.
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They have enough characters from past games in it for me to make up a few teams. I can fool around with Ryu, Zero, Chun-li, Morrigan, Captain America, Spider-man, Felicia, Jill (if she hasn't changed much). As for the new guys, I need to try them out first
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Wesker, Joe and *possibly* Spencer for me.
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http://fans.marvel.com/marvel_interactive/blog/2010/12/21/marvel_vs._capcom_3:_the_thought_behind_the_marvel_alternate_color_schemes (http://fans.marvel.com/marvel_interactive/blog/2010/12/21/marvel_vs._capcom_3:_the_thought_behind_the_marvel_alternate_color_schemes)
This is an article about the costume and color scheme choices for Marvel vs Capcom 3. Some are awesome, some just make sense because it would same thing as making a new character and hit box, and some are lazy. Particularly She-hulk, there is an obvious one they should have used.
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Black Zero, Nightmare Zero, ?????? Zero?.
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Achievements
http://www.xbox360achievements.org/game/marvel-vs-capcom-3/achievements/
Fate of the Satsui no Hadou
Decide who is the true master of the fist in a Xbox LIVE match.
Darkstalkers
Make a team composed of those who dwell in the darkness, and win a match. (Arcade/Xbox LIVE only)
Anyone still doubting Akuma or Hsien-ko?
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But Akuma was deconfirmed......
Oh well, Street Fighter needs a 4th rep and a Sf3 rep.
Hopefully Megaman can get Forte EXE as wel... [eyebrow]
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Black Zero, Nightmare Zero, ?????? Zero?.
Well, we have seen Zero with an X coloration already. I'm sure the only other reps would be Black, Nightmare, or Absolute.
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Well, we have seen Zero with an X coloration already. I'm sure the only other reps would be Black, Nightmare, or Absolute.
Red, Megaman X, Nightmare Zero and Black Armor Zero seems likely.
Im not sure about Nightmare Zero..... but that'll be awesome
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Anyone still doubting Akuma or Hsien-ko?
For the sake of argument, Satsui no Hadou could refer to Ryu as well. And is there a character that "dwells in darkness" that's not from Darkstalkers?
But Akuma was deconfirmed......
Not exactly. There was a vague quote that basically said they were trying to cut down on cloneliness. Key word "trying" I suppose.
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And is there a character that "dwells in darkness" that's not from Darkstalkers?
Morrigan, Dante and maybe Evil Ryu ?
Not exactly. There was a vague quote that basically said they were trying to cut down on cloneliness. Key word "trying" I suppose.
Well in the gameplay videos there's a poster of ryu in the background that says "I feel the power inside... ¿What lies ahead?", so it might as well be Evil Ryu and not Akuma.
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http://fans.marvel.com/marvel_interactive/blog/2010/12/21/marvel_vs._capcom_3:_the_thought_behind_the_marvel_alternate_color_schemes (http://fans.marvel.com/marvel_interactive/blog/2010/12/21/marvel_vs._capcom_3:_the_thought_behind_the_marvel_alternate_color_schemes)
This is an article about the costume and color scheme choices for Marvel vs Capcom 3. Some are awesome, some just make sense because it would same thing as making a new character and hit box, and some are lazy. Particularly She-hulk, there is an obvious one they should have used.
Why she doesn't have her Lawyer outfit is mindboggling.
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Dormammu is from the Dark Dimension. Dante is half demon. Shuma Gorath is also a demon from another dimension. As much as I would like Hsien-ko the achievement can in theory be done by any of these characters.
For the Fate of the Satsui no Hadou it could be as simple as fight against another Ryu online.
It could mean they are in it but it doesn't guarantee it. Thats also taking account that the list is real.
The one that caught my eye was Mega Buster. It doesn mean he is in it but it gives me hope.
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For the Fate of the Satsui no Hadou it could be as simple as fight against another Ryu online.
Maybe, but notice how all the other similar achievements are pretty much "fight a battle of Character A VS Character B" (Chris VS Wesker for example). Why wouldn't it be real anyways?
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I don't disagree with you. I just don't want to get too excited. Like you said they even have a Captain America vs Iron Man achievement so it could be true.
Posted on: December 22, 2010, 05:11:41 PM
Also I don't remember a 360 game that has an achievement that unlocks after unlocking all other achievements. That's more of a PS3 things with the platinum trophies.
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SSF4 does, I just checked.
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Ok cool, I really want that Mega Buster achievement and I really need to play SSF4 again.
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Well, we have seen Zero with an X coloration already. I'm sure the only other reps would be Black, Nightmare, or Absolute.
Probably not absolute. Actually, id put my money in
Black Armor, Nightmare Zero, Bandai Black Zero. (AKA the Black armor they used in TVC)
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A Nightmare Zero color would be epic
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Also I don't remember a 360 game that has an achievement that unlocks after unlocking all other achievements. That's more of a PS3 things with the platinum trophies.
Naruto: Storm 2, DBZ:RB2 and Tekken 6 all have ones like this, too.
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I stand corrected, I never was much of an achievement whore. :P
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I heard that they were considering putting Fou-Lu from BoF4 in for a time (but sadly cancelled).
Just thought of how cool it would be to see his victory animation; while the other losers are striking a pose, he just turns around and walks off-screen.
(http://i54.tinypic.com/2j35taf.jpg)
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I heard that they were considering putting Fou-Lu from BoF4 in for a time (but sadly cancelled).
Just thought of how cool it would be to see his victory animation; while the other losers are striking a pose, he just turns around and walks off-screen.
(http://i54.tinypic.com/2j35taf.jpg)
If I could choose I would like Momo.
Man I am thinking about this game way to much. I have started dreaming about it now. Last night I had a dream I was playing the game using the original MegaMan and at one point I did a super where MegaMan jumped into the air and fused with Rush (super adapter from MM7) and while hovering he then used the Hyper Rocket Buster to launch a swarm of charged punches at my opponent. Then I woke up...... This wait is killing me.
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Gonna leave this here
http://shoryuken.com/content/marvel-vs-capcom-3-comic-book-art-reveal-taskmaster-galactus-2941/
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Galactus is the final boss?
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Galactus is the final boss?
Yep. That comic also reveals Taskmaster. And thus, the list leaked by my GAF ally, lupinko, gets a bit more in the way of vindication~ 8D
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He also mentioned that the final battle would include fighting both DOOM and Wesker at the same time didn't he?
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Well, here's the latest compilation of his goods.
[spoiler]From my twitter, for the lazy:
Poison appears in an urban level background
Ghost Rider appears in Dante's ending
Like MvC2, taunts are not cancellable in MvC3, so don't get any ideas just because they were in SF4
You can also save your favourite teams and assists
So instead of having to reselect your team, you can just quickselect your team
Phoenix - Has a special where she shoots out phoenix symbols that stay stationary, similar to Aegis Reflector
A variant of the same special has the symbol being able to suddenly fly forward
She can set a section of the ground on fire, most similar example provided by my source is Sub-Zero freezing the ground, I prefer Wimmy of Samurai Spirits fame for the example
Storm is wearing her current modern costume
Sentinel is still the Capcom design but modernized to an extent, more details in his shoulder area
More Marvel 3 info! Sentinel and Storm are pretty much similar gameplay wise to their MvC2 counterparts
No Frank West, unless he is planned DLC down the line
Galactus - When you reach him, he stays in the background and you fight both Doom and Wesker simultaneously
- He has a snapback move where he flicks you off the screen like a mere insect
- He's huge, bigger than either Apocalypse in XSF/MSF or Carapace form Onslaught in MvC
- He has an unblockable where he would grab you with both hands and squish you, my source advised avoiding it only by super jump
Cameo appearances - Poison is in one of the backgrounds, Phoenix Wright and Edgeworth are in She-Hulk's ending
Taskmaster info: - He can shoot his arrows straight upwards, and can fall down, think Magikina Mina of Samurai Spirits fame
- He uses his shield to do reversals like Gouken
- TM is sorta like Seth in that he has variations of other characters' moves as normals such as Spidey's webswing and Captain America's charging star
Phoenix - If she dies and if you have 5 stock bars, she will do Gill Resurrection which results in her turning into Dark Phoenix
- She also has Seth-like health
C. Viper - She has EX moves that take metre, done by using the Exchange button to do the moves
- She has a Focus Attack, which may have potential for assist traps
Mike Haggar - Shares some of Zangief's moves but only to an extent as he is still very much his own character
- HP has him using a lead pipe - Super 1 - Punches with one arm over and over again, think Cracker Jack in SFEX
- Level 3 Super - Final Haggar Buster (his version of FAB), ends with piledriver which results in different camera angles on the last frame,
think when you beat someone with a super in Star Gladiator
Nov 5 on most boards I frequent:
Marvel
Galactus (Boss)
Taskmaster (unlock)
Shuma-Gorath (DLC)
She-Hulk
Deadpool
Captain America
X-23
Magneto
Modok
Hulk
Spider-Man
Dr. Doom
Sentinel
Storm
Phoenix/Dark Phoenix
Super Skrull
Dormammu
Wolverine
Iron Man
*Thor (Infamous I forgot Thor list)
Capcom
Amaterasu
Ryu
Rad Spencer
Chun Li
C. Viper
Hsien-ko
Jill (DLC)
Chris
Wesker
Dante
Trish
Arthur
Felicia
Morrigan
Viewtiful Joe
Tron Bonne
Mike Haggar
Akuma (unlock)
Zero
What I posted on that same day on only 1 other forum that is not SRK or gaf or twitter:
Apparently She-Hulk has a super in MvC3 that's like Hol Horse w/Boingo's in Heritage for the Future, the one where the opponent gets run over by a car, but there's a twist, She-Hulk can throw the car at the opponent afterward like Jill's Tyrant super in MvC2.
EDIT: Also Edgeworth and Phoenix Wright are both in her ending. lol
[/spoiler]
- http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=25104744&postcount=135
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Yeah it looks like your list is coming true... I really really hope it isn't. Like I said before it's only because I just hope MegaMan made it.
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The last part about She Hulk is false.
Her Sunday Driver hyper combo is nothing like Jill's Tyrant Super
the opponent doesnt get run over by a car. She pushes the person out of the way and THEN throws the car. There is no "can throw car afterwards"
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The last part about She Hulk is false.
Her Sunday Driver hyper combo is nothing like Jill's Tyrant Super
the opponent doesnt get run over by a car. She pushes the person out of the way and THEN throws the car. There is no "can throw car afterwards"
True. On the other hand, I would doubt that lupinko's contact spilled info, based on what the move possibly could have been in an earlier build of the game.
People who followed TvC (CGOH, original JP ver) should recall this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tNXbPZXTcM
In this decidedly earlier trailer for TvC (CGOH, original JP ver) that revealed Doronjo and Volnutt for the first time, notice how they have supers that don't operate quite how they do in the finalized arcade/retail release of the game. Volnutt's Shining Laser (@1:33) was actually more of real-time "Kamehamehadouken" in this clip, which is definitely a far cry from what we know at retail (where it functions more like a blockable command grab).
Fighting Games, historically, have been prone to doing such. For example, SNK's earlier Neo Geo games are ripe with data pertaining to moves that were either changed, or outright deleted from the released versions of the games themselves.
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Volnutt's Shining Laser (@1:33) was actually more of real-time "Kamehamehadouken" in this clip, which is definitely a far cry from what we know at retail (where it functions more like a blockable command grab).
AND it does like 10 times less damage than in the trailer XD
Don't forget Polimar's drill originally was him slamming you to the corner and THEN transforming into the drill without going off screen and returning either. Also the whole Assault thing that was scrapped before the first playable build.
So yeah, things tend to change, and honestly the She-Hulk difference is just nitpicking at this point.
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Ok I don't think it's She-Hulk throwing a car at you on purpose. The Super looks like she tries to save her opponents life then she ends up throwing the car away and it ends up on the person she is fighting. At least I like it was an accident
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The Super looks like she tries to save her opponents life then she ends up throwing the car it away it ends up on the person she is fighting.
THIS IS BAD! supports that theory.
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Whoa, why did they change his shining laser?
Was it broken or something?
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Haggar made it in?
Sweet! =D
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Whoa, why did they change his shining laser?
Was it broken or something?
We'll likely never know, as no reason was ever cited for chnages. But again, this is the kind of thing that has happened to fighting games for years, where sometimes voice samples and whole sprites/animations were never used. Too often, it just seems to happen because the devs may have just ended up "changing their minds". 8D
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We'll likely never know, as no reason was ever cited for chnages. But again, this is the kind of thing that has happened to fighting games for years, where sometimes voice samples and whole sprites/animations were never used. Too often, it just seems to happen because the devs may have just ended up "changing their minds". 8D
Hmmm, Tekkaman Blade does the same thing (giant laser beam) if he misses the level 3
Posted on: December 30, 2010, 12:08:22 AM
I almost had a heart attack
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/73/carnz.jpg
This is fake btw
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http://shoryuken.com/content/rumor-twitter-account-claims-leaking-marvel-vs-capcom-3-reveal-plans-2773/ (http://shoryuken.com/content/rumor-twitter-account-claims-leaking-marvel-vs-capcom-3-reveal-plans-2773/)
Mega Man was one of the first characters ruled out - offers nothing unique, says devs. Arthur was added to fill his shoes. #mvc3
.............................I ...................I don't..................................................... I don't even know how to respond to this if it's true.
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AHAHAHAHAHAHA!
That's hilarious!
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And yet there was a Megabuster achievement on that achievement's page?
Anyway, I dont mind. He's had his fighting game appearances. X deserves some love. (even though we know he isnt in it either- Though he COULD be DLC... I wish...)
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People think Mega Man's out of the game YET they think Akuma is confirmed.
It doesnt make [tornado fang]ing sense
Haha guys, you know what I found?
Posted by klennox22
Hsien-Ko and Phoenix will be revealed at Jump Festa this weekend. #mvc3
Did anyone get revealed at Jump Festa? No! XD
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Well on the plus side, there's still DLC talk for the future.
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People think Mega Man's out of the game YET they think Akuma is confirmed.
It doesnt make [tornado fang]ing sense
Haha guys, you know what I found?
Posted by klennox22
Hsien-Ko and Phoenix will be revealed at Jump Festa this weekend. #mvc3
Did anyone get revealed at Jump Festa? No! XD
Yeah, that guy was a fake. If you deny the leaked list that he based his bs on you're really in denial at this point though, best we can hope for our blue bomber right now is that either that isn't the complete roster or ,ugh, DLC.
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Yeah, that guy was a fake. If you deny the leaked list that he based his bs on you're really in denial at this point though, best we can hope for our blue bomber right now is that either that isn't the complete roster or ,ugh, DLC.
I say, be ready for DLC.
After all, if nothing else, MM9 and 10 basically gave Capcom an indicator (re: a FREE PASS) that their public will allow them to do as such. Suffice to say, if you were willing to pay out of pocket for things like additional characters, much less HIGHER DIFFICULTIES for a Rockman game (all of which, would have been standard issue in a Rockman game less than a decade ago), you sent the message to Capcom that this type of stuff was "A-OK". 8D
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I think it's okay as long as it's cheap, like said Rockman 9 & 10. XD
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Zero doesnt have his Nightmare Zero color.
Rage O:<
He has a Axl color instead
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Zero doesnt have his Nightmare Zero color.
Rage O:<
Ha ha ha... you really expected that he...
He has a Axl color insteadp
ALL MY [tornado fang]ing RAGE!
Also, regarding the dlc... well, it's not like downloadable characters are a new thing. It's to be expected that they'll probably add shitton of content for DLC.
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Not much to do about DLC now. It's just add on content. Some companies do it well (more Mass Effect DLC pls) and some don't ($5 for Yoda &^%$ that). It's all part of gaming now. I just pretend I am back in my PC gaming days where add ons meant I went to the store to buy a new disc to add a few missions to command and conquer. God I feel old saying that.............................
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Not much to do about DLC now. It's just add on content. Some companies do it well (more Mass Effect DLC pls) and some don't ($5 for Yoda &^%$ that). It's all part of gaming now. I just pretend I am back in my PC gaming days where add ons meant I went to the store to buy a new disc to add a few missions to command and conquer. God I feel old saying that.............................
All I'm saying is, the power is in people's hands.
When PS3 owners like myself were utterly irate and inconsolable about the DRM issue relating to that Final Fight release from a little while ago, such that people didn't buy the game, Capcom quickly got the hint. It likely will be a VERY, VERY long time before Capcom, or any one else, pulls off [parasitic bomb] quite like that again. Similar DRM episodes have also cropped up (and then shut down) on Ubisoft's end, as well, forcing them to adapt.
Chances are, if people made enough of a big-stink about the negative aspects of DLC (this DEFINITELY includes retailer/preorder exclusive bullshit DLC), and furthermore, actually stopped condoning such things with their money? The companies would be forced to abide by what their consumer-base demands. But instead, people have practically willingly allowed such a precedent to emerge in the video game industry. If we don't assert ourselves as consumers now to the industry at large? We'll likely continue being raked across the coals in this way.
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All I'm saying is, the power is in people's hands.
When PS3 owners like myself were utterly irate and inconsolable about the DRM issue relating to that Final Fight release from a little while ago, such that people didn't buy the game, Capcom quickly got the hint. It likely will be a VERY, VERY long time before Capcom, or any one else, pulls off [parasitic bomb] quite like that again. Similar DRM episodes have also cropped up (and then shut down) on Ubisoft's end, as well, forcing them to adapt.
Chances are, if people made enough of a big-stink about the negative aspects of DLC (this DEFINITELY includes retailer/preorder exclusive bullshit DLC), and furthermore, actually stopped condoning such things with their money? The companies would be forced to abide by what their consumer-base demands. But instead, people have practically willingly allowed such a precedent to emerge in the video game industry. If we don't assert ourselves as consumers now to the industry at large? We'll likely continue being raked across the coals in this way.
Can't believe Tim Buckley called this one. http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20100628
I can explain this up, down, and all around. But let me make this simple. Downloadable content is just what it is. Extra content. Content that takes money for people to make, and with that money spent, they need some money coming back to them. As any company offering a service or product should have the right to, by the way. You think this is being raked across coals? Try having a declining business because people can download your work for free, rather than paying for it. But let me put this as easy as possible for you to understand.
A video game is like a wrapped sandwich you buy at the deli. Has meat, cheese, lettuce and hey, even tomato. You enjoy the sandwich just fine until you feel it can use a bit more of a kick. Some mayo or mustard. But, you don't have any of either, so you would have to go to the store and buy some. However, youh have three choices. You can:
1) Go get some mayo, or mustard, pay for it and enjoy your sandwich with the extra kick.
2) Not buy either because you think your sandwich is just fine without may or mustard. Or
3) Rant, rave and [sonic slicer] about the mayo or mustard not being on the sandwich to begin with and demand to start a revolution in the name of not getting it the way you want it.
Which of the three do you think is a complete waste of time, and makes one seem like a whiner because they aren't willing to shell out five measly dollars?
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I can explain this up, down, and all around. But let me make this simple. Downloadable content is just what it is. Extra content. Content that takes money for people to make, and with that money spent, they need some money coming back to them. As any company offering a service or product should have the right to, by the way. You think this is being raked across coals? Try having a declining business because people can download your work for free, rather than paying for it.
And this is my/the consumer's problem how, exactly?
This is basically the same type of ideology that makes it seem that things like DRM are an "ok" thing, because it "protects" the developers from pirates (except it really doesn't...) and also tries to put people who would rather rent/buy secondhand on blast. Well, why should I, as a potential early adopter, have to incur extra costs, or otherwise be treated like a criminal, just so that the companies will be satiated?
No, call this thing for what it is. DLC is nothing more than another scam that could be boiled down to an "early adopters' fee", at best. What really is the biggest problem at the center of this is perhaps the one truth you did speak of: it IS a declining business model. But that's still not the (honest) consumer's problem, though. It's THE INDUSTRY'S. If companies like Capcom and others can't figure out that things like Steam and D2D represent what's in their best interests and their future, then again, that's THEIR problem for sticking with an increasingly obsolete business model, and choosing to side with proponents like Gamestop that abide in it.
A video game is like a wrapped sandwich you buy at the deli. Has meat, cheese, lettuce and hey, even tomato. You enjoy the sandwich just fine until you feel it can use a bit more of a kick. Some mayo or mustard. But, you don't have any of either, so you would have to go to the store and buy some. However, youh have three choices. You can:
1) Go get some mayo, or mustard, pay for it and enjoy your sandwich with the extra kick.
2) Not buy either because you think your sandwich is just fine without may or mustard. Or
3) Rant, rave and [sonic slicer] about the mayo or mustard not being on the sandwich to begin with and demand to start a revolution in the name of not getting it the way you want it.
Which of the three do you think is a complete waste of time, and makes one seem like a whiner because they aren't willing to shell out five measly dollars?
Except your example doesn't quite work, because it doesn't equate to what is really going on here.
So, going with what you're talking about, let's say you have a favorite deli joint (game company). You've gone to these guys for years, in the same old, familiar neck of the woods, because you enjoy their food, and have actually come to expect certain things when it comes to the quality of service, and their product that you love to consume.
But wait! After a number of years away, you've come back to that same shop. That favorite sandwich that you used to partake in for years on end? Now that deli shop is doing a "different" thing with it. Back in the day, you used to be able to load up your sandwich with whatever your heart may desire on top of the meat of your choice: tomato, lettuce, mayo, mustard, hot sauce, mushrooms, any type of cheese or any combination of above. And it was all under the same price heading for that one sandwich. Not any more, though! Instead, the new pricing model has it so you only get a choice of the meat and lettuce. Any OTHER extra condiments/toppings is a dollar extra. And just to make sure nobody steals anything, the deli shop now assigns certain employees that will WATCH YOU EAT. Sometimes, they'll even reach over, put their grimy fingers in the sandwich you just paid for, just to make sure you didn't take anything extra that wasn't on your receipt. You ask why you're being treated this way, and the employee can only offer a half-assed explanation relating to "rising costs" and "robberies that have occurred since the neighborhood went to hell in a hand basket".
Now, instead of perhaps, I dunno, MOVING THE BUSINESS TO A NEWER AND SAFER VENUE? The shop would rather stay right where it is, and do more to [acid burst] off those old customers that do try to come and holla, with their new business practices. Meanwhile, the robberies STILL happen and their insurance premiums (among other things) continue to rise. For all their bullheaded resolve to stay in the neighborhood "that they helped build~!", what good is it really doing the shop in the end?
And that, in a nutshell, is what describes what's going with the video game industry. The likes of DRM and DLC are not doing anything to address the real problems the industry is facing, and only succeeding in doing more to try the patience of the reliable "Day -1" consumer on the same token.
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A good sandwich from a respectable restaurant comes with all the condiments I want on it without extra charge.
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For the record, I'd like to state that I was the one who first used restaurant type analogies on RPM, so I expect some credit when others use my type of examples on this site, goddammit! 8)
Having said that, ultimately, I think it really depends on how expensive the sandwich (game) is. Essentially that's what anything really boils down to, in the end, when it comes to being a consumer of anything: How Much Are You Willing To Pay?
This is why the rant in that comic Ramzal posted is somewhat flawed, especially about the car analogy. People who buy a car know fully damn well all the expenses that go into it (One would hope). However, #1 Companies, both insurance wise & car company wise, can screw people over in terms of monthly payment agreements and #2 gas prices keep rising and falling to the point where when gas prices once reached $4+ in the NYC area, people finally said [tornado fang] THAT [parasitic bomb], and gas sales significantly dropped due to it, keeping gas prices under $4 since then (at least here in NYC).
It's why I also feel that MM9 & MM10 are examples of how, sometimes, there is nothing wrong with DLC. Why? Because MM9 & MM10 are a goddamn Hamilton each. There are $10 games. Not $50, not even $30. They are $10, and after all the DLC additions, whether you find them pointless or not, add it all together and it amounted to $19. Wow. We've gone up to $20 now. HEAVENS. They are still cheaper than most games that come out nowadays. Hell, they are cheaper than the original cartridges back in the NES days. So, in my view, there's a nice fun gray area in between "principals" and being "[tornado fang]ing cheap!" However, again, I'm willing to pay the extra $9 for the DLC of a Hamilton cheap game. Others are not.
Now, take the XBLA YuGiOh game as another example. They just released their DLC packs, and what they do is charge 160 Points for an individual pack which gets you cards that you can eventually win in the game by dueling in single player mode (I think there are 8-10 packs, I forget). Not new cards, mind you. Just cards you might not have the time to get, or because some people just can't build a basic winning deck. For ME, this DLC would be an absolute waste of money, and I refuse to pay points for cards I will eventually win anyway (One day I'll have that Mirror Force). For some, this seems like a bargain to maybe get some cards to build a decent deck with a coherent theme to it. Again, it's a Hamilton cheap game, but the DLC is not worth MY money.
Also, there is a huge, HUGE difference between "ranting & raving about something" and "not giving them money." Complaining does nothing unless you're willing to stop supporting the thing you're complaining about, and usually to stop supporting something means to stop giving them money. Like Ben said, THE POWER IS YOURS. Wait no, that was Captain Planet. He said the power is in people's hands. The only problem with this, especially when it comes to consumerism, is that you have to get enough people who side with you and stop buying said product. This can go right back to what I said in the Spider-Man topic after my huge rant about OMD/OMiT. After Quesada butchered the character, the only way to send a message that what he did was so atrocious is to stop buying the comic. If sales drop enough, then there is a chance things can change. But you have to have enough people who will stop paying, otherwise it won't change. Like I said some paragraphs ago, it all depends on how much a person is willing to pay!
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Okay. Now that I fully see your points of view. The majority of it is fair and based off the sense of you don't like DLC and feel that it should be included in the game you make. Which is fine. However saying it's a failing system is false due to the profit they make from DLC. If anything, the number of people buying DLC for their games show what the people want. And how much they are willing to spend. Your arguement would be solid if not for that. However all gaming companies can't do what Steam does and make really good and enjoyable games for free. Too many workers need to get paid. And that money doesn't come from a tree that grows. :P It all comes down to gaming companies needing more profit. And for their product and what they give out for DLC (Granted, if it is good and it appeals to me) I am willing to give up $1 for Megaman in MvC3. And honestly, it's kinda stupid to treat DLC as the Anti-Christ because you don't want to give up a dollar or five bucks for more. It's your decision to get it or not, just leave it at that. And rather than trying to rally people to join a cause to defeat the evil companies that sell you work that cost them millions for fifty bucks only, why not just keep on moving...or shell out a few more bucks?
I mean, seriously. It's a dollar. I've paid more for a candy bar than that. And while delicious, it was short lived. Or five bucks. Unless you don't have a job, you can't complain because even if you HAD one, it takes an -hour- to make more than the DLC is worth...with excess. And with all honesty, the only people I tend to know who have a problem with DLC are people who are poor and have no jobs, or pirates. Otherwise, I think it's just complaining about something that makes profit and makes gamers happy. Not you but others. What's next? Complaining that having to buy batteries for a RC card that doesn't have batteries included? :P So, in general just ignore DLC if you don't like it and don't try and start a mob over it. No one is being robbed if people willingly spend money on it. Unless someone is holding a gun to your head and told you to buy the Protoman DLC, no one has a right to complain, really. *Looks at PB* I know full well you did. >0< (As if your post didn't already make it obvious) :P
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Can we create a topic for the DLC talk so that we can stay on topic?
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However all gaming companies can't do what Steam does and make really good and enjoyable games for free.
...What are you talking about? Steam, as a digital download service medium, is a solution that makes companies money, for those who are willing to invest in it.
If anything, Steam is the solution that proves that developers can make even MORE money, because they cut out the middlemen that do the most to cut into their profits: Publishers and Brick & Mortar Stores (re: Gamestop). The PC Gaming market is already moving in that direction as it is. Why the Console Gaming market is dragging its feet in this area is beyond me, and yet, they're the main ones crying about "rising costs" the most.
And with all honesty, the only people I tend to know who have a problem with DLC are people who are poor and have no jobs, or pirates.
You couldn't be more wrong. Certainly for me, and those who think like I do, this has little to do with monetary value, and everything to do with, again, what I've come to expect when I buy a goddamn video game. Especially one that's not a MMO, and therefore, I'm not subscribing to any type of service charge to play in a "persisting" and "ever-changing" game.
Relating to MvC3, specifically, I have a distinct qualm with DLC for a fighting game. Foregoing everything else relating to competitive play that I'm sure 99% of you don't care enough to hear about, it was bad enough that developers liked to do more to "section off" content, forcing players to build up in-game currency or jump through some other type of logistical hoop, just to be able to get access to content, like extra characters/stages/colors-costumes. (Much more when "locked saves", became the norm.) Now, they've taken that "game" to a whole new level. If it's content already on disc, now you may have to PAY just to unlock what's on WHAT YOU ALREADY PAID FOR. Otherwise, it's stuff that they choose to release after the game has already gone gold and on to the market place, and want extra capital.
What I find the single most amusing about all of this, however? Back in the day, it was the mainstream crowd who were always the first ones to cry about how fighting game companies like Capcom were too quick to put out a nigh-yearly "Super Turbo EX + @" update of a fighting game a year after the original release, "forcing them to upgrade". Hell, some of that same rhetoric was uttered all over again, just because SF4 got that Super update last year. But for whatever reason, that same crowd has no problem with companies like Capcom running a clear and present DLC game on them here and now...and by the end of the day, those people likely end up paying more through continued DLC than whatever price those expansion/upgrade discs commanded a mere generation ago, for arguably LESS in the way of meaningful content, on top of that! 8D
I mean, you tell me, people who play BB:CS to any degree. Are you really getting your money's worth, paying for those DLC characters that don't even have their own story/arcade/conquest modes? Or for additional colors (when such a thing was a STANDARD FEATURE in Guilty Gear AC+)? Or how about you tell me how you REALLY feel, knowing that all of that content, plus others (re: story modes for the DLChars and more), will be part of the in-game package deal for the PSP port of BB:CSII arriving later this year, for no extra charge?
Can we create a topic for the DLC talk so that we can stay on topic?
But...we are on-topic. After all, MvC3 will be employing a DLC pricing structure of its own, is that not correct?
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Oh calling me out, huh? I feel I've totally got my money's worth with CS.
I think DLC characters in a fighting game is the right move to make. I'd much rather pay a couple bucks per character over time than wait for a hard copy of the plus disc. The balancing, the other big part of the updates, will be free. And by the time all these updates come out and are put on an official hard copy is released, the core release will already be available for cheaper, so the DLC doesn't make the game all that more expensive.
It helps that CS and SSFIV were sold for cheaper than normal to begin with. If you only bought the three extra characters in CS, you ended up paying about $60 altogether. $40 for CS1 and $20 for CS2. And that's if you got everything when they first came out. A perk of DLC is that PSN and XBL sometimes discount content. CS's DLC is discounted right now, I believe. And Valkenhayn on XBL was sold at a discount to begin with. I don't know if Yun, Yang, and whatever other characters are in SSFIVAE will cost $20 altogether, but it's still better than having to wait until there's a disc with them on it.
Sure CS2 has all that stuff built in. But it will come out 8 months after CS1 came out. And it's on the PSP for likely $30. The people who care about this stuff would've gotten CS1 on day 1 on 360 or PS3 and know better than to play that game on a PSP.
If you bought the additional colors and announcers for CS, then yeah that's more than $60. Yeah, they could be implemented into the physical release for no extra cost. But so what? They're extras that don't impact the gameplay any. They're there if you want them. And you're not entitled to these extras. To use a different analogy, it's like decorations on a car like decals or spinning rims. You don't need them for your car to function, but they're there if you want to express yourself.
You are spoiled by the kindness game companies offered in years past. They include these fun little extras for free, and you now expect the same from games today. The game has changed and you don't like the changes. So you shout and complain and want things to go back to the way they were. Like a bitter kermudgeny old fart.
Oh yeah, and quit reminding us of the leaked list the guy posted on Neogaf. We get it, it's very likely to be true. But what the hell do you care? This is a game you don't even care about. You have nothing to gain if the list is indeed correct. So stop riding that guy's dick and shut up about games you don't even play.
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But...we are on-topic. After all, MvC3 will be employing a DLC pricing structure of its own, is that not correct?
Yes and no. I see you bringing it back to MvsC, but everyone is still mainly taking about the + and - of DLC. Oh and sandwiches.... I get hungry reading this thing. =p I don't mean it shouldn't be talked about and I know it relates to MvsC but I think we can get a great topic going on DLC alone. I know I would enjoy reading it. Plus I can jump in too because I have been around long enough to be one of those people that have bought every version of street fighter across many platforms and talk about how I think DLC made that easier on me.... rather my wallet
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You are spoiled by the kindness game companies offered in years past. They include these fun little extras for free, and you now expect the same from games today. The game has changed and you don't like the changes. So you shout and complain and want things to go back to the way they were. Like a bitter kermudgeny old fart.
And you're one of the very sheep-minded sort that allows this to happen. How many more times will you see things like "RE5: Gold" and "Hokuto Musou International", package deals that are released upwards of 6-12 months after the original release (and often includes said original release's DLC as part of the updated package deal, all for less), before you understand that DLC is just a marketing scam directed towards the early adopter "Day 1" crowd?
And I like how you basically tried to equate DLC to auxiliary things that can be outfitted on a car, when in truth, this is more along the lines of how a next generation model of an automobile has lost features that may have been a default feature in the previous one. For example, if you're a fan of a luxury sports car, such as a Lexus LS, you would come to expect certain things being part of the package deal, even before we start talking about adding on more luxury options, am I right? Do you honestly think Lexus buyers would not be the least bit perturbed, if they lost out on some of the creature features they've come to expect, historically?
Imagine if Lexus introduced a 2013 Lexus LS model that sported only 4 gears, when most models on the market today sport 8, at least. And worst yet, getting the 8 gears that you are used to is now an "additional luxury" item that you have to pay extra in order to get. Lexus would get laughed right off the trade show floor, and their devoted customers would (rightfully) feel that Lexus is trying to gyp them of features that they've been used to for years now.
Video games, as well as the consoles they are played on, are just as much of a luxury item. And as a longtime consumer of such luxury items, YES, I am quite disappointed that some developers are trying to short-change us content that, once upon a time (re: up to a generation ago), were default features, along with whatever "extra frills" they want to add on later.
Oh yeah, and quit reminding us of the leaked list the guy posted on Neogaf. We get it, it's very likely to be true. But what the hell do you care? This is a game you don't even care about. You have nothing to gain if the list is indeed correct. So stop riding that guy's dick and shut up about games you don't even play.
No, how about you stowing all that, Sato.
First of all, in both instances that I posted said list, I spoiler'd it and linked it to its original sources. Meaning, if you didn't want to see it, YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO OPEN IT, much less actually comment on it... 8D
Secondly, and what I think is the better question to ask: why the hell do you care that I supposedly don't care? (If anything, my recent posts should do more to suggest that I DO care through my dissent; but that's another matter altogether.)
In any case, last I checked, there was no such rule in the TOS relating to anything along the lines of: "If you're not part of the circle jerk bandwagon, don't post in the topic". Furthermore, last I checked, you're not a mod. Therefore, you have NO authority to tell me what to do whatsoever. So, either get a mod or the admin if I'm supposedly that "out of order", or kindly get to steppin' if you some how can't tolerate a non-trolling, noninflammatory voice of dissent.
Yes and no. I see you bringing it back to MvsC, but everyone is still mainly taking about the + and - of DLC. Oh and sandwiches.... I get hungry reading this thing. =p I don't mean it shouldn't be talked about and I know it relates to MvsC but I think we can get a great topic going on DLC alone. I know I would enjoy reading it. Plus I can jump in too because I have been around long enough to be one of those people that have bought every version of street fighter across many platforms and talk about how I think DLC made that easier on me.... rather my wallet
Well, hey, if you want to see it? Feel free to take the first step, man. If it's just going to be another joke topic like a certain other Sonic-themed thread, though, count me out... 8D
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Not a bad idea actually. Will make add a poll also.
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I am a mod. The RPM Purifier title doesn't exist anymore, but Ares and I still have mod powers.
And as a mod, I will delete any posts concerning the pros and cons of DLC. We have a thread for it now (http://forum.rockmanpm.com/index.php?topic=5606.0).
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Secret MvC3 Event in Vegas on Jan. 6th (http://www.capcom-unity.com/snow_infernus/blog/2011/01/03/marvel_vs_capcom_3_secret_event_in_vegas_on_jan_6th)
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I am a mod. The RPM Purifier title doesn't exist anymore, but Ares and I still have mod powers.
I thought there was somethin' fishy goin on. When did the rank go away? I could have sworn it still existed not too long ago...
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Secret MvC3 Event in Vegas on Jan. 6th (http://www.capcom-unity.com/snow_infernus/blog/2011/01/03/marvel_vs_capcom_3_secret_event_in_vegas_on_jan_6th)
Frank West and Venom say hai
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I thought there was somethin' fishy goin on. When did the rank go away? I could have sworn it still existed not too long ago...
It created an issue with the Arcade. I'm not exactly sure myself. Ask Vixy.
I forgot to mention Wily II is a mod as well. Sorry, buddy.
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So THAT'S why people I knew were mods suddenly "were not anymore" so to speak... huh. interesting.
Sorry? for what? i was just asking. I never realized that the rank went away.
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Sorry? for what?
For forgetting Wily at first.
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVriTPCVjL4[/youtube]
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"Let's clean up the slums of Metro City!"
And Phoenix. ;3
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXk-6fVFxCc[/youtube]
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Yay Haggar.
Also, god damn, Phoenix's health looked pretty much nonexistant XD
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Oh yeah, and there's some Akuma too -___-
http://shoryuken.com/content/3052-pull-review-leaks-expected-marvel-vs-capcom-3-character/comments3.html
(http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/3600/m19383mvc3000.jpg)
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Phoenix, certainly looks tricky. That low health scares me, even with the supers balancing it out.
Haggar... what can I say, really? He's THE MAYOR, for crying out loud.
Akuma, HADOKEN HADOKEN HADOKEN.
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Haggar is your obligatory MANPOWER OF MANLY MANLINESS!
Phoenix is like a really overpowered Captain Falcon :D
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Phoenix's low health is offset by having, essentially, two life bars and the ability to heal. I wonder if she loses her healing ability in her Dark form.
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I like Phoenix's theme a lot. She looks fun to use too!
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Phoenix's low health is offset by having, essentially, two life bars and the ability to heal. I wonder if she loses her healing ability in her Dark form.
Said second lifebar requires a full 5 meters and drains away by itself though.
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IT'S KAMEN RIDER DECADExW ALL OVER AGAIN
(http://bulk2.destructoid.com/ul/190882-/zero-noscale.jpg)
http://www.destructoid.com/marvel-vs-capcom-3-extravaplosion--190882.phtml
(http://bulk.destructoid.com/ul/190882-/wesker-620x.jpg)
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Those people on Stream suck, dont watch it.
I love how Zero's Axl alt color doesnt look anything like Axl
And that Zero doesnt have his Black Armor
Also, Haggar's second hyper combo in the video is a refrence to the infamous Infinite Combo glitch from the original Final Fight
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Well, they're mostly members from the press so them sucking so bad is only natural >_>
*sigh* Why can't Shinkiro be the one doing the cover again =/
(http://fast1.onesite.com/capcom-unity.com/user/jaycbaby/large/0ab78cdd886fa9edd413c049bcfb37cd.jpg)
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Forte was just too out of place. They really should have completed the Irregular hunter team and had an Alia scheme to complete the ZERO's a girl gag.
*Inb4 [parasitic bomb] layer or [parasitic bomb] pallet*
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Zero's colors are great
X
Zero
Black Zero
MegaMan Zero (at least I like to think that is what it is)
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Actually it's X,Zero, Bass/Forte, Axl. The 3 hunters and that other popular guy.
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Haggar is beast, and Phoenix looks pretty damn cool.
Here at AGDQ, the topic of Akuma came up. It was brought up that having another shoto was a downer. But someone reminded us that Akuma was the first crossover character, so Akuma's presence in MvC3 is more of a tribute to the Vs series history. And that I can respect.
He better have a Cyber Akuma skin.
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So I guess this hints that Bass is a blonde too?
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I love how one of those alt outfits makes Wesker look like Vergil.
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So I guess this hints that Bass is a blonde too?
Nah, it just matches Bass' helmet fin.
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And yet no actual Black armor Zero. niiice. instead we get Bass. who is somewhat out of place, it should be X, Zero, Black Zero, Axl.
Also, am i the only one who feels the helmet colors of the Axl scheme should be switched? red inside, dark outside?
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I see no problems with the Bass color scheme. The character is pretty much Zero's big brother. Good to see him getting more love. The best treatment Bass has gotten was getting put into the EXE series as an ultimate boss... at least until 4-6. Then it got pretty ridiculous because his entire plot was thrown out the window to just be a power hungry human hating villain.
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They should've given him a Auto color scheme just to [tornado fang] with everyone.
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That would be awesome!! XD
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His hair would be a giant bolt.
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Auto Zero would be the best alt costume of ever.
I don't really mind Forte being one of Zero's color schemes, but I think Nightmare Zero would have been better.
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Its funny how people dont want Akuma YET they want in Two MegaMen.
I-I just cant comprehend. ::)
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The blue color for Zero reminds me of the X3 game genie code to have X turn into zero, and the palette was still X's until you charged your buster.
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Its funny how people dont want Akuma YET they want in Two MegaMen.
I-I just cant comprehend. ::)
We don't even have one yet. PLEASE tell me you're not counting Zero because that's just stupid.
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We don't even have one yet. PLEASE tell me you're not counting Zero because that's just stupid.
1- Mega Man Classic
2- Mega Man X
3- Zero
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I'm pretty sure people want either one or the other, mostly X, not both.
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I'd prefer X and EXE myself...
No matter though.
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I want SS, but yeah, not happening.
Seriously, they should get either of the RPG Rocks in a fighter one of these days. [tornado fang] the haters.
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EXE was in Onimusha Blade Warriors...
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Yes, but I mean one like this.
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Which Mega Man belongs in a crossover:
Marvel- Mega Man Classic
SNK- Mega Man X
Tatsunoko- Volnutt
Konami- Mega Man EXE
Nintendo- Mega Man Classic?
No love for ZX and Starforce
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The blue color for Zero reminds me of the X3 game genie code to have X turn into zero, and the palette was still X's until you charged your buster.
I loved that. Though his hair was silver there. which fits better with an X color scheme for Zero tbh
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Yay more leaks
http://www.shopto.net/XBOX%20360/VIDEO%20GAMES/XB2MA22-Marvel%20vs%20Capcom%203.html
Look at the bottom. Or if you're lazy
(http://i.imgur.com/J73NC.jpg)
There's also some pics of the comic which is...not looking good XD
Also
(http://i.imgur.com/j3fXx.jpg)
The more Shinkiro artworks I see the more I rage that he's not doing the cover, specially seeing them side by side >__<
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Interesting that Tron is on the same pic as the really bad boys :D
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The only way Akuma won't disappoint me is if he has a way of transforming into mother****ing Cyber Akuma.
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GONNA TAKE YOU FOR A RIDE (http://www.destructoid.com/marvel-vs-capcom-3-extravaplosion--190882.phtml)
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[tornado fang] yeah, Akuma!
....Am I the only person who likes Akuma's Semiconfirmation?
Anyways, I hope these are Akuma's Hyper Combos:
Level 1- Kongouku-Kuretsuzan: Akuma slams his fist into the ground, causing a massive explosion of energy around himself.
alternate level 1- Messatsu Go Rasen (OK in air): Akuma does a upwards spiral kick that ends with a powerful kick that sends the opponent away with great force.
Level 3- Shun Goku Satsu: Akuma dashes towards the opponent, grabbing them and executing a deadly multi-hit combo. Invincible at start up.
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Ok, you guys need to see this XD
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfwoLXEk9QI&feature=sub[/youtube]
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Ok, you guys need to see this XD
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfwoLXEk9QI&feature=sub[/youtube]
That... is five kinds of awesome. And three kinds of amazing.
HEED MY WORDS!
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Hi, Capcom?
STM here. Just wanted to say you're a bunch of idiots for picking a shoto clone in Akuma. No, I'm not going to post up "Mega Man deserves that slot." because I've realized you could have put a far better villain in his place, if you so wanted one.
And guess what? He's from a fighting game too!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dxZTn8iOik[/youtube]
Bonus Points? Audio override when he triggers his Level 3 special.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fqBF-qvc7k[/youtube]
But you have fun wasting slots on copy characters.
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Why didnt the Chun Li player slap Thor in the middle of him talking? That would have been hilarious
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Hi, Capcom?
STM here. Just wanted to say you're a bunch of idiots for picking a shoto clone in Akuma. No, I'm not going to post up "Mega Man deserves that slot." because I've realized you could have put a far better villain in his place, if you so wanted one.
And guess what? He's from a fighting game too!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dxZTn8iOik[/youtube]
Bonus Points? Audio override when he triggers his Level 3 special.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fqBF-qvc7k[/youtube]
But you have fun wasting slots on copy characters.
Here here!
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Hi, Capcom?
STM here. Just wanted to say you're a bunch of idiots for picking a shoto clone in Akuma. No, I'm not going to post up "Mega Man deserves that slot." because I've realized you could have put a far better villain in his place, if you so wanted one.
And guess what? He's from a fighting game too!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dxZTn8iOik[/youtube]
Bonus Points? Audio override when he triggers his Level 3 special.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fqBF-qvc7k[/youtube]
But you have fun wasting slots on copy characters.
Totally 100% agreed! Valgas ftw! :D
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Just wanted to say you're a bunch of idiots for picking a shoto clone like Akuma.
Haters gonna hate?
And guess what? He's from a fighting game too!
Too bad the series was disconfirmed. He could have been interesting
But you have fun wasting slots on copy characters.
It's all about the money. [eyebrow]
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They should've also put Fokker & Rouge in as well.
Oh well, perhaps they will when they finally make Hanna Barbera vs. Capcom.
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Haters gonna hate?
Just call it "I'm sick of all the shotos getting attention." I'd even have taken M.Bison over Akuma.
Note: I'm also not too much a fan of Trish and X-23 essentially doing what Dante and Wolverine already do. Were they really that desperate to add females to the roster? Capcom at least had Vs. vets in Son Son and B.B. Hood.
Too bad the series was disconfirmed. He could have been interesting.
Then it shows how little they cared about the product from the getgo if they didn't look into a lot of their "lesser" brands. (Yes, this also contains some Strider Hiryu lament)
It's all about the money. [eyebrow]
Then we'd be seeing Mega Man in his place. There's quite a few people not happy that one of their star characters is out in favor to what amounts to being a clone of Ryu.
As for other Power Stone characters, aside from mother Fokker, I was thinking of Jack or Wang Tang. Really, any of them would have worked nicely in this game.
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Note: I'm also not too much a fan of Trish and X-23 essentially doing what Dante and Wolverine already do.
I'd agree if it wasn't wrong. Tell me just what makes them clones of Dante and Logan other than X23 being a literal one.
Then we'd be seeing Mega Man in his place. There's quite a few people not happy that one of their star characters is out in favor to what amounts to being a clone of Ryu.
And that's why he'll make a fine extra amount of $ for Cap as DLC, they know we'll buy it >_>
(And let me say that it better damn be Volnutt, he's my favorite version of him in a fighter)
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I'll admit Trish has better ground for sticking around due to her pulling a more keepaway game with how she can use her lightning abilities, but from what I've seen played of X-23, she literally plays like Wolverine but has more speed and less HP in comparison. I just feel Marvel only put her in to say "Hey, look, we got one of our modern characters in here too. Crazy, isn't it?" despite there being strong demand for a character like Rogue.
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Strider Hiryu hasnt been touched since Capcom Fighting Allstars (which was cancelled) and that Strider's creators are incredible dicks about copyrights B(
Yeah, I dont know how to explain why characters from Power Stone were disconfirmed
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but from what I've seen played of X-23, she literally plays like Wolverine but has more speed and less HP in comparison.
Did I miss Wolverine being able to do X23's supers, her hop, her unblockable jumping grab, her divekick, her OTG slash, her turning invisible, her unblockable lv3 grab, etc.?
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Akuma being in MvsC3 is just a homage thing. He is the first Capcom character to crossover to a Marvel game, in which he was also a hidden character. (X-Men: Children of the Atom.... ugh hated using Silver Samurai)
X-23 is in because she is new and popular. I am glad Rogue is out honestly. I loved that Rogue but that Rogue doesn't exist anymore and to be honest I am not sure what they did with her after she was powerless or does she have Sunfire's powers.... Anyway Marvel got to pick who they wanted in the game for their side and they mentioned at Comic-con they wanted to add people that were popular and some that were uncommon.
I am shocked that Phoenix made it in. I know people love and miss Jean but it surprises me that they use this version of her since it isn't actually Jean Grey.
As for Trish, who else would they throw in from DMC? It looks like for some series they really wanted to have multiple people to represent. Virgil and what's his name from DMC 4 look to much like Dante, and I am glad they didn't go with Lady (really they couldn't come up with a better name) and Lucia (Ugh DMC2).
As much as I would love to see Powerstone in this I'm not shocked it isn't in the game. Capcom seems to over look this series alot. I mean would it really be that hard to release P.S.2 on the XB Live or PSN in HD with online Multiplayer.
I am shocked Rival Schools didn't make the cut. Really shocked.
Games like this will always have somebody we all think should had been in it. (Like ANY form of MegaMan, I mean I am getting desperate here I will even except Starforce at this point. I don't even like Starforce all that much.) All we can do is hope they show up later as DLC or in a sequel.
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Games like this will always have somebody we all think should had been in it. (Like ANY form of MegaMan, I mean I am getting desperate here I will even except Starforce at this point. I don't even like Starforce all that much.) All we can do is hope they show up later as DLC or in a sequel.
Actually it would be interesting if Shooting Star Megaman makes it to the roster, since he's clearly the Megaman with most melee moves
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Actually it would be interesting if Shooting Star Megaman makes it to the rooster, since he's clearly the Megaman with most melee moves
I dunno about that, Exe has a ton depending on his chip loadout.
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Game needs more Dan, god damn it.
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http://shoryuken.com/content/taskmaster-akuma-marvel-vs-capcom-3-3197/
New trailers for Akuma and Taskmaster. In Akuma's you can see DOOM as a sub-boss :D
...and we STILL can't get Akuma's awesome ground punching super outside of his victory pose. God damn it Capcom, you're gonna put another shoto in there, at least give him his awesome moves (and a Cyber Akuma transformation >.>).
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Weird, link doesn't work for me.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xn-jFK-GNI[/youtube]
Taskmaster is the gambit of this game? his moves said so.
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Game needs more Dan, god damn it.
I support this! Better than Akuma.
Taskmaster looks rather... eh. His counter super is awesome buuut the rest of his moveset seens pretty bland.
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He looks to be one of the better melee characters.
So I caved and picked this up through Capcom. Yes, the whole $70 special edition thing (PS3 version) is a little bit of a hard pill, but Capcom's throwing in a neat shirt featuring Shuma Gorath killing some Servbots for free. That takes the $10 extra sting and makes it far less painful.
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Did he just say Spidey Swing? XD
Also, I think he's voiced by Blum.
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"Spidey Swing!"
"Just like Cap'!"
"Aim of Hawkeye!"
I love Taskmaster's voice.
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Also, I think he's voiced by Blum.
This is Taskmaster we're talking about. He just listened to Steve Blum and copied his voice. =P
Anyway, Taskmaster's the star of this reveal for me. He's got a spot on my team now.
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I definitely see myself using Taskmaster.
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As for Trish, who else would they throw in from DMC? It looks like for some series they really wanted to have multiple people to represent. Virgil and what's his name from DMC 4 look to much like Dante, and I am glad they didn't go with Lady (really they couldn't come up with a better name) and Lucia (Ugh DMC2).
I 'unno. Nero might look like Dante, but I figured with his sword-revving abilities and his Devil Bringer he'd be a kind of pseudo-ranged/grappler character. Eh, whatever.
Akuma's inclusion isn't really that big a deal to me since I personally find all of the shotos a little bland, and I'm ashamed to say I don't know much about Taskmaster.....
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Taskmaster is the only character on Marvel´s side that I´ve never heard of..
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He was a low tier character, mostly used as a way to build up other villains, but Marvel has been building him up pretty extensively as of late. Marvel loves MODOK and him right now.
He also had an amusing team up with Deadpool.
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No Mega Man Classic (http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2011/jan/24/niitsuma-talks-mvc3-megaman-rage-quitter-hell-spong/), Frank West was cut at the last second (http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2011/jan/24/mvc3-why-frank-west-was-cut-phoenix-wright-considered/), and there may or may not be a Sentinel (http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2011/jan/22/sentinel-disconfirmed-niitsuma-marvel-vs-capcom-3/).
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Cool
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No Mega Man Classic (http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2011/jan/24/niitsuma-talks-mvc3-megaman-rage-quitter-hell-spong/),
Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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and well... [tornado fang].
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If we were to adapt the original Mega Man character into a fighting game he would have to have a lot more extra moves and abilities, and that would then create a different Mega Man entirely. You couldn’t retain his original character as he is. So we looked into other Mega Mans, and decided that Zero had the best list of moves already in existence when it comes to fitting into a fighting game.
Yeah, just completely ignore that you've already had TWO Mega Men in a fighting game before ::)
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There's Zero in the game. One character is better than none. Quit your bitching.
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You shut your face!
;)
But seriously, no Mega Man? That really shocks me more than anything.
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There's Zero in the game. One character is better than none. Quit your bitching.
I agree with this guy. I mean, everybody knows Zero plays exactly like Mega Man, right?????
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I agree with this guy. I mean, everybody knows Zero plays exactly like Mega Man, right?????
Since when did Mega Man pick up a sword and yell Japanese at enemies?
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I believe you need a new sarcasm detector.
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Since when did Mega Man pick up a sword and yell Japanese at enemies?
Tengu Blade.
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"I assume you’re talking about the original Mega Man. There was a Mega Man slot for this game – we had room for a character from that series. But when it came to the propriety of that character being in a fighting game, Mega Man has some problems.
If we were to adapt the original Mega Man character into a fighting game he would have to have a lot more extra moves and abilities, and that would then create a different Mega Man entirely.You couldn’t retain his original character as he is. So we looked into other Mega Mans, and decided that Zero had the best list of moves already in existence when it comes to fitting into a fighting game."
"It is almost certain that he is not going to be DLC. Mega Man is a character difficult to adapt to MvC because you only have Megabuster as a weapon and a good character for this fighting game needs more variety. That is the main reason that we chose Zero; apart from the Megabuster, he also carries a sword.
Everything we've announced is that there will be DLC with new characters, but we have not yet decided which and how many will be there, but then we didn't say they're "definitely a no" but "not currently, and it is very unlikely."
Hes just bullshitting that excuse for Rock not being there. Honestly.
because, yknow... (http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/024/a/6/classic_megaman__s_mvc3_moveset_by_availation-d322x4c.jpg)
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The fact that a simple MVC3 fan made a extremely awesome moveset for not one, but SIX characters including one that the Producer of the game cant even make?
8D
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pretty much.
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Man, this has to be one of the lamest excuses I've ever seen. Megaman doesn't have enough moves? Really? I guess it's kinda showing their laziness above all else, though. Zero and Tron are both copypasta in terms of moveset, minus the Level 3's. They did re-work Jill Valentine completely from MvC2, though, so...yeah. o-O
TBPH, I have mixed feelings about the fan-made movesets. One one hand, they are a step up from Mega's MvC1 system, but they do seem a tad...excessive. His normals really don't need to be weapons, as he's perfectly capable of punching and kicking on his own, including in the air. I also don't think he needs that many special moves; all he really needs is a selection of around 3 or so to swap between. MvC's version of this wasn't terrible, but you really didn't have time to summon Eddie and pick up the weapon you wanted before a smart opponent could take advantage of that. TvC's was far better, as not only was the switch one swift motion that kept you safe, but the weapon use was also streamlined but still very useful. Really it'd have been nice for them to re-work classic MM's weapon system to the point where it's more accessible in combat, but unfortunately Capcom either didn't think about it hard enough or were just too lazy too.
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What I find truly funny is that they can make a unique character like Trigger in TatsuCap, but supposedly can't for Classic MegaMan? I'm gonna call foul on that one.
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Not to mention the argument on abilities. Rock and Zero BOTH gain abilities from bosses. Without his powers in TvC, (which are all moves from bosses...) Zero just has a triple slash and a Z- Buster. (default maneuverability abilites like air dash aside)
Which would put him in the same basket as Rock. of COURSE Rock has little variety! Because you completely ignored the fact that he uses boss powers.
I think this guy simply saw Zero's moves and doesnt know that his moves work the same as Rock's. he just assumed that Zero just "comes with a moveset by default"
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To me, what is puzzling also is that he's already been in the first 2 MvC fighting games, and they managed to get him to work fine. I mean, would it take that much to upgrade him or his supers (although man do I love when he says Beat-a Plaaaane)? They upgraded Spidey and his moves and supers, and MegaMan has plenty they could use.
I mean, they SHOULD use Blues, but well, you know! XD
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Exactly! Just tweak the weapon-switching dealy to make it more user-friendly and you've got yourself a character. Blatant laziness is blatant.
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(http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/3627/told.jpg)
(http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/7671/komug.jpg)
(http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/8500/foto0049yx.jpg)
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To me, what is puzzling also is that he's already been in the first 2 MvC fighting games, and they managed to get him to work fine. I mean, would it take that much to upgrade him or his supers (although man do I love when he says Beat-a Plaaaane)? They upgraded Spidey and his moves and supers, and MegaMan has plenty they could use.
I mean, they SHOULD use Blues, but well, you know! XD
They should use him. In fact, even if there was no Rock, id be content with Blues.
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Playable Galactus? LOL, how is that even fair?
They should use him. In fact, even if there was no Rock, id be content with Blues.
Blues would be so awesome in a fighting game.
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Hsien-ko sure looks nice in that artwork.
Also, this was too awesome, hilarious, and true not to post.
(http://i.imgur.com/38Y6h.jpg)
Playable Galactus? LOL, how is that even fair?
Easy, he's not =P
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Playable boss character? I didnt see Yami playable in TVC.
If I made Mega Man, I would add these as his Hyper Combos:
Hyper Mega Man
Rush Drill
Original Level 3
If Niitsuma made Mega Man, I would expect
Hyper Mega Man
Rush Drill
Beat Plane
too bad he didnt even try. o-O
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Double Rock Buster special move.
It's apparently very powerful, but only used in the manga, so...
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Double Rock Buster special move.
It's apparently very powerful, but only used in the manga, so...
Used in SAR. He used it to take out Ra-Moon. And it also almost killed him if I recall right. There's a reason Rock and X can only have one buster equipped at one time.
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In the context of a fighting game like this, it could work. But at the same time, we already have a ton of characters that fire giant laserbeams.
Thunderbolt or Astro Crush would have done in a pinch.
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Would Double Rock Buster be a beam or like Zero's Charge shot from X3?
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No Mega Man Classic (http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2011/jan/24/niitsuma-talks-mvc3-megaman-rage-quitter-hell-spong/), Frank West was cut at the last second (http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2011/jan/24/mvc3-why-frank-west-was-cut-phoenix-wright-considered/), and there may or may not be a Sentinel (http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2011/jan/22/sentinel-disconfirmed-niitsuma-marvel-vs-capcom-3/).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORsfwjYv-7Q&feature=related
I can live without Megaman in it. Zero and Tron Bonne are enough. Namely since I'll be using Spidey, X-23, and Zero in my teams.
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Would Double Rock Buster be a beam or like Zero's Charge shot from X3?
Double Rock buster is exactly as advertised.
Using both Rock Busters at the same time to fire a charge shot. (I think) It causes him to overheat and risks his life.
Its the reason Light incorporates a lock out system so that for example in Day of Sigma, When X'sBuster arm detatches, he cannot use the buster in his other hand, being locked out by the other arm that was detached while in buster form.
When X gets buster upgrades in X2 and 3, he doesnt use both at once, he just gets the ability to use both in rapid succession.
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http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/capcom-reveals-sentinel-for-mvc3
http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/hsien-ko-joins-mvc3-character-list
Yay trailers
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I just find it funny that on the capcom side the megaman series is the only series without one of its main stars. I am surprised they didn't go with MM Zero because of that.
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Good god, saying that Phoenix has low health is a freaking understatement, she literally dies in a simple ABC->special->super combo o__O
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7OA2Ik7qQc[/youtube]
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0_0 Just by looking at that clip I'd have to wonder why one would main Phoenix. Unless she has some kind of crazy offense she's gonna die quick, and there's not MCrashing like in TvC. Even with Phoenix mode that health is still super low.
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The excuses for not having Mega Man are dumb as all hell. It would've been better if he didn't say a word.
Looking at the partial move lists on the official site (http://marvelvscapcom3.com/us/characters), Hadangeki is spammable still. It's not a charge motion anymore, so that makes spamming it acceptable, for lack of a better term.
And about that Mega Man fanmade command list, I agree in that it's too much. It's not necessary to use every weapon in existence. His hyper really goes overboard with that. Less is more, I say. I definitely approve of a random shield for when he blocks, though. That's a nice touch.
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Looking at the partial move lists on the official site (http://marvelvscapcom3.com/us/characters), Hadangeki is spammable still. It's not a charge motion anymore, so that makes spamming it acceptable, for lack of a better term.
Eh, TBPH it's only a problem in lag, and that'll probably remain the same no matter what. If someone tries that offline or on a good connection, they're getting punished for it. XD
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Good god, saying that Phoenix has low health is a freaking understatement, she literally dies in a simple ABC->special->super combo o__O
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7OA2Ik7qQc[/youtube]
*First 25 seconds* THATS WHAT YOU GET FOR BEING CHEAP IN MvC2!!
OT: wow, your right. :o
great balancing there Capcom! (can't believe Mega got shafted...)
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Unless she has some kind of crazy offense
That's pretty much why she dies as soon as you touch her, SPECIALLY DP. Also, with her healing field she'll last somewhat longer since she could be recovering at the same time as she's being damaged
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Lupinko wins again! owob
Sentinel looks glossy
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Wait, at 41 seconds is that...?
(http://i54.tinypic.com/2lmoq55.jpg)
(http://i56.tinypic.com/elbsjr.jpg)
Oh Capcom XD
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I remember that thing 8)
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You should! That's the icon for RockmanPM's webpage.
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SUPER GAUGE TO MAX AND FULL HEALTH REFILL!
Or something, I don't know.
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It'd be hilarious if Zero and Tron had their health and meter completely filled up when they get hit by that don't you think? XD
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It certainly wouldn't be hilarious for the guy playing Hsien-Ko, that's for sure. Although come to think of it the yashichi hasn't been in either a Legends or X game, so it really wouldn't make sense at all. The item is a staple for Capcom (http://capcom.wikia.com/wiki/Yashichi) period, not just Megaman.
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Although come to think of it the yashichi hasn't been in either a Lengends or X game, so it really wouldn't make sense at all.
Neither were the power pellets in Lost Planet, Casshern, or Gold Lightan, so what's your point? =P
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By that I meant that it'd make no sense to only give the item's powers to solely Zero & Tron; might as well make it work for all Capcom characters in that case.
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Roll's healing super only worked on robots too, so again, what's your point?
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Roll's healing super summons an E-Can that heals only robots, yes. The Yashichi is a Capcom item that generally benefits whoever finds it, robot or not (in most cases). Having it heal just Zero/Tron (and the latter's not even a robot) would be a bit odd. Of course, having a character toss out an item that randomly heals your opponent would be a really bad idea in the first place. XD
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Roll's healing super summons an E-Can that heals only robots, yes.
Come again?
Its summons a large energy pellet, not an E-Tank.
And how do you think the Yashichi works? If ZX's explanation is to be believed/taken as the description, It is literally a pinwheel that generates power from wind.
Cant see how that would benefit a non robot character.
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Of course, having a character toss out an item that randomly heals your opponent would be a really bad idea in the first place. XD
When said attack already has a chance to cause instant stun I say why the hell not? :P
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It does? I've only used her in Pocket Fighter, but in that instance it caused instant stun if you held the button for a few seconds. I don't even know if Marvel games even have stun; last I saw that was in MSHvSF.
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In VS and apparently Marvel too, certain items she throws cause stun when they hit you, but they only come out if you use the M or H version of the attack. The only question right now is if it will be predictable in Marvel just like it is in VS (if an Akuma statue comes out the next item she throws WILL stun).
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Is it bad that I'm glad Zero took Megaman's place in this?
It is? Oh, OK.
Could be better though... we could've gotten Axl instead. 8D
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Is it bad that I'm glad Zero took Megaman's place in this?
No, it's not bad. Im glad too. 8)
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I never really considered it "replacing" so much as just grabbing a character that already had a moveset, same for Tron really. Truth be told, I'd really like to see Sigma get into a fighting game sometime soon.
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I never really considered it "replacing" so much as just grabbing a character that already had a moveset, same for Tron really. Truth be told, I'd really like to see Sigma get into a fighting game sometime soon.
Admittedly, Sigma would be a fun choice. The battles that could be had with Sigma and Zero... mmm.
Also, my main enjoyment is Tron of course. Tron is undeniably my favorite MM girl. Love that sexy intellect, ironically her tsun-tsun and deem sexy curves... <3
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I'd really like to see Sigma get into a fighting game sometime soon.
Hopefully he'll be in Tatsunoko vs Capcom 2
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If Sigma gets in a fighting game it might not be TvC2 (assuming we even get that). Note that every character in TvC aside from Doronjo is a hero, similar to how they pulled MvC1 off.. I mean, they could pull a MvC2 and just start adding people regardless of affiliation, but I'd think that hero characters would more likely see game-time first. Assuming that TvC2 would keep all of the characters from the prequel and add new heroes, they'd probably go for a series that hasn't been represented yet. Model X/ZX/A's a possibility, as would be a BN/SF character.
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TVCUAS almost got Bison and Braiken Boss, I dont see why we cant have villians....
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I don't see any problems with having villians, but if they made a TvsC2, odds are they would rather add more series in them give the current ones more characters. [although I'm not sure if Tatsunoko even has enough series with characters that fit on a fighting game to make a new one, but I digress.]
I don't really have a problem with Megaman not being in, but it is weird they instead use 2 non-main character[as in, not the protagonist of their series] as representatives, and this doesn't happen with other series[can't speak for the Marvel side, here], with an argueable case with Darkstalkers, but Demitri couldn't go in mostly because of Midnight Bliss.
Anyways, Hsien-ko looks interesting. She was one of my favourites on Pocket Fighter.
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I can see why you wouldn't want Demetri in MvC3, as it would be odd being Spider-Girl, from another sub-series from Marvel, as Spidey's Midnight Bliss, as they are wholly diffrent characters.
@Aqua: Yes, it's been long we've seen EXE mega in a fighter since Onimusha. Honestly I thought they pulled it off well here.
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Saying that Mega Man's skill set wouldn't fit in this game when he's done perfectly fine in all the others thusfar is a pretty stupid excuse. Probably would have been smarter on their part to just not say anything at all than basically flat out lie.
Anywho, for all the people planning on getting this, what console would you get it for? I'm personally going for the PS3 version, if only because I don't see myself paying for Live anytime soon.
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Playstation 3.
I was born with the Playstation 1/2 remote in my hands
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PS3 myself. Don't have any particular interest in the 360.
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360 because getting the PS3 version would require another $500 to buy the PS3 itself.
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This is why we need a Hanna Barbera vs. Capcom game. That way, some of Capcom's more sillier & imaginative entries could shine on through.
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Just about everyone I know is getting this for PS3, so I am as well. I still know a few people who will get the 360 one too though, so ugh. I feel like I have to buy the game twice, but that'd be ridiculous.
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This is why we need a Hanna Barbera vs. Capcom game. That way, some of Capcom's more sillier & imaginative entries could shine on through.
Dick Dastardly would never be allowed to win. As you're about to win a match with him, something happens and he loses.
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Both. Collectors.
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Dick Dastardly would never be allowed to win. As you're about to win a match with him, something happens and he loses.
And Mutley would be laughing in the backgrouund. Classic. Awwww man they need to make this game.
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Mutley would have to be playable and his taunt would be his laugh
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He'd have to laugh after every super as well.
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'M getting the 360 version. Drop me a line if you feel like playing, people! ;)
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Well, you should add me later Ky, I doubt the connection will be great but fighting someone you kinda know is always better than someone you don't know at all.
Anyways, hi there Galactus and his heralds.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a72R8mokdNA[/youtube]
Now go watch it before Capcom's ninjas do the same to it that they did to Evil Ryu and Oni Akuma videas of SSF4AE.
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Ha, Galactus KOed the Earth.
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Yeah.
Honestly if it wasn't for that and his lasers I'd say he looked kinda lame for a boss battle honestly >_>
Posted on: January 30, 2011, 09:56:57 PM
The game's intro/episode 4
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAvD8HtfnSk[/youtube]
PB AND YOU OTHER NY PEOPLE YOU BETTER VOTE FOR HAGGAR IN THE NEXT ELECTIONS
XD
And the credits
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZulnILz7y8&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL[/youtube]
Oh Joe XD
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Ah darn it! The videos got removed! :'(
Capcom sure moves fast!
Guess I have to look for freshly uploaded videos of them instead.
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Not sure why people wanna see the ending credits. Personally I feel like it ruins something.
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The music mostly...and stuff like this
[spoiler](http://i.imgur.com/gYz6b.jpg)[/spoiler]
Ah darn it! The videos got removed! :'(
Capcom sure moves fast!
...It took you 11 hours to watch them.
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Mind reuploading that photo?
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http://i53.tinypic.com/5ph5qw.jpg
Better?
And because this from the intro is also too awesome not to post
(http://i53.tinypic.com/15xlve0.jpg)
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The music mostly...and stuff like this
[spoiler](http://i.imgur.com/gYz6b.jpg)[/spoiler]
...It took you 11 hours to watch them.
I had school and work so I couldn't watch them.
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The point was that 11 hours isn't exactly the definition of fast.
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUsmBqz9ZUk&feature=player_embedded#[/youtube]
Health?
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Non existant XD
A better version
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZjwJ_lj6pA[/youtube]
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(http://i53.tinypic.com/15xlve0.jpg)
No Zero or Spencer? Boooo!
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Man, this makes you wonder how viable Phoenix really is. All the health of Shedinja without the usefulness of Wonder Guard.
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Captain Viewtiful Joe?
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Man, this makes you wonder how viable Phoenix really is. All the health of Shedinja without the usefulness of Wonder Guard.
She needs to be out last. If you have five bars and she dies, she goes Dark Phoenix automatically, becomes invincible and gains a serious attack boost. Once her health depletes, though, she dies and it's match unless you manage to kill your opponent.
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Well, you should add me later Ky, I doubt the connection will be great but fighting someone you kinda know is always better than someone you don't know at all.
Sure thing. SolarKnightR, right?
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMRHgIMoUlc&feature=feedu[/youtube]
:o WOW.
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[spoiler][youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMRHgIMoUlc&feature=feedu[/youtube]
:o WOW.[/spoiler]
C'mon pal!
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That guy does some really awesome remixed music.
For example this
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ze2-zgDIxJk&feature=related[/youtube]
The comments are right, THIS should've been remixed instead of TU4AR. TU4AR is so bad it's great, but the first MvC's character select music was just too awesome.
Speaking of that guy's music, this SO makes me wanna have playable Blues in the game and have something similar to this be his theme.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGSzKfFLuBo&feature=feedf[/youtube]
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You should SO wanna have Playable Blues for the sole reason of his sextasticness!
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I do, but that moves him up from "I want him in the game" tier to "I want him in the game and would replace any of the current characters in the roster for him if necessary" tier :P
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He should be up there with Galactus in power.
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He was banned from being a boss because he was too powerful. He makes SNK bosses weep.
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True, I guess they were being fair.
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Blues' eyes took up too much RAM so Capcom removed him.
har har, gamefaqs joke
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har har, gamefaqs joke
That explains a lot, right there.
Anyways, I don't have too many issues with the soundtrack overall as it is. I'd probably prefer the old school style of composition, but I doubt that holds true for a large number of the fanbase that's going to buy the game.
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YM4Bh5RG9lk[/youtube]
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Those lasers of his are dangerously close to the SNK boss syndrome
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i looped the Traditional Remix of I wanna take you for a ride.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgE7bkljx_0[/youtube]
I dont believe in the Rock and Techno remixes 8D
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Those lasers of his are dangerously close to the SNK boss syndrome
They look extremely predictable tbh. The only thing he has that looks like a threat if you're paying attention is his Earth destroying super, which I've yet to see how to counter, but that's mostly because I hadn't seen it again since the first leaked video until the reveal trailer.
Now something to get people hyped
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyQf4Un9bKM&feature=feedf[/youtube]
SUPPORT STRIDER
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Those were some nice combo, but was it just me but aren't you able to roll out of most of them?
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The counter kept on raising, so no, you can't roll out of the OTG stuff.
Oh yeah, and apparently Jill and Shuma are there in the disc, already complete >__>
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Earth destroying super
counter
Hmm...
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The counter kept on raising, so no, you can't roll out of the OTG stuff.
Oh yeah, and apparently Jill and Shuma are there in the disc, already complete >__>
Great news for people who bought the Special Edition, bad news for regular edition buyers.
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Great news for people who bought the Special Edition, bad news for regular edition buyers.
At the same time, getting the regular edition and buying the DLC will apparently cost less than getting the CE for just the characters. So who cares?
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Shuma
complete
Shuma Gorath? COMPLETE?
URGHGAGHDKHASJDH WHAT IS THIS MADNESS I DONT EVEN O:<
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At the same time, getting the regular edition and buying the DLC will apparently cost less than getting the CE for just the characters. So who cares?
You'd be surprised at the people bitching about it already.
Everyone wins in the end, though... unless it's a person that's staunchly against DLC.
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Regular edition buyers have to pay to unlock content that is already there in the disk, while SE buyers are being locked out of said content for a month and if it didn't have al those extras it'd also be paying an extra 10 bucks for content that was already there.
How is that a win-win situation?
EDIT: Oh hey look, well, listen to this
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_PzTNIzyeo[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQe2GjaGt9M&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL[/youtube]
I'm liking both themes.
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The counter kept on raising, so no, you can't roll out of the OTG stuff.
Oh yeah, and apparently Jill and Shuma are there in the disc, already complete >__>
In the original games the counter kept going up if you sweep into a super, but you can still roll out of it when you hit the ground. For example you could combo into a sweep with spider-man and then combo his super right into it. The counter kept going but if you did a 360 as you hit the ground you could roll after the sweep and avoid the super.
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The answer is still no though.
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Shuma Gorath's theme sounds like something from a Battle Network game.
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Why is Capcom advertising the game in Japan with crying schoolgirls? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS2ILQN6bwg&hd=1)
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>JAPAN
...really, come on now. Trying to understand anything that happens in that country is more of a headache than it's worth.
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At least Shuma wasn't in it?
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If you don't buy MvC3 you'll make her cry. Do you want to make a schoolgirl cry? No, it's like killing kittens, but with schoolgirls, and you know the Japanese love their schoolgirls...
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>JAPAN
...really, come on now. Trying to understand anything that happens in that country is more of a headache than it's worth.
The same can be said on ALOT of countries.
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The official translation is something along the lines of:
"There are no more heroes? *tear*"
*MvC3 footage*
"Yay, there are heroes!"
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...Amusingly, I can see this commercial work well back in 1980s....I don't know why.
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Niitsuma just said on the live stream that if a MegaMan gets put in for DLC it would be X because fans have been asking for him the most
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Niitsuma just said on the live stream that if a MegaMan gets put in for DLC it would be X because fans have been asking for him the most
Talk about a cocktease!
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Well it IS true afterall.
Hey does that mean the other two characters voted alongside X get a chance in as well? Because i will [sonic slicer] about Strider's rights to being in the roster as long as required.
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I really wish if I could have gotten a hold of a CE preorder when I got the chance to in the past. This game has me ungodly hyped and I'm not much of a traditional fighting game player (even if I love admiring the games & the skill level required to do the crazy [parasitic bomb]). Honestly though, I should have gotten on this train since NYC Comic Con last year. XD
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Isn't the capcom store still selling the CE version?
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(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b350/SubTank123/1297431089802.png)
dat ass
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(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b350/SubTank123/1297431089802.png)
dat ass
I though you were more of a boob guy.
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Even Hitler finds all of these dis-confirmations aggravating.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq1BPm2_W3A[/youtube]
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Isn't the capcom store still selling the CE version?
People who placed their orders are having weird issues with the site either dropping them entirely or having them on extended "In Process" mode. I think it'll just be better to pop into whatever local Target/Walmart/Besy Buy/Toys R Us type places and get something. Orrrr you could try the mom & pop places since they're apparently selling early. I just got word that Video Games NY is selling, but the line is massive so far.
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b350/SubTank123/1297431089802.png)
dat ass
10 years of development in action. XD
I though you were more of a boob guy.
He's on the winning team now. :P
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I dunno, I think I've seen Sub draw some fine asses before.
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I though you were more of a boob guy.
I don't always dig asses, but when I do I prefer Tron Bonne's
10 years of development in action. XD
Whoa, are we talking about the gap in between games, or Tron's age?
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Wait isn't that the back of Bonne's head?
...i'm not sure anymore D:
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It's her head.
But It's also works as an ass.
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Well, most asses do look good in tight black leggings.
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Sorry, I actually had to look for the ass shot. I knew right away it was Tron's head.
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Well, most asses do look good in tight black leggings.
I second this. Especially those tight spandex/leather pants MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
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I don't always dig asses, but when I do I prefer Tron Bonne's
Whoa, are we talking about the gap in between games, or Tron's age?
Gap between games, though it's to be expected if they give her a hit with the sex appeal paddle. XD
Also, this is a great example for anyone doing a study on the power of suggestion. If I had never seen Sub's post, I would have caught that the shot was of the back of her head. Mind blown.
Edit: Can it be insanely OP combo time?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXlTDt1JZh0[/youtube]
And what are everyone's teams looking like so far?
The only definite I have as just an observer is Dante/Morrigan/Spidey. I think I'm going to wind up playing with everyone at least once though, this game looks like waaaay too much fun with the playstyle diversity.
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Zero and Haggar are definites for me. Don't know about a third yet.
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Because Tony Stark wants to go out with Tron Bonne (http://shoryuken.com/content/marvel-vs-capcom-3-game-smacktalk-3583/)...eww.
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lol. "Doing anything after this?"
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Personally I prefered Felicia's "Your head's on fire!" XD
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I'm leaning towards using Ammy, Taskmaster and... haven't decided on the third slot. Zero or Spidey chances are, although I'll certainly try everyone.
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Because Tony Stark wants to go out with Tron Bonne (http://shoryuken.com/content/marvel-vs-capcom-3-game-smacktalk-3583/)...eww.
I'm sure Capcom intended for it to sound like Tron and Tony are going to build robots after the fight.
buuut, the way they worded it made Mr. Stark sound like a playboy AND a pedophile.
Tron IS 14 right?
RIGHT?!
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I'm pretty sure he says it to at least Morrigan, or pretty much every woman too so don't read too much into it.
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejmJ3D0YboY&feature=feedu[/youtube]
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http://shoryuken.com/content/marvel-vs-capcom-3-game-smacktalk-3583/ (http://shoryuken.com/content/marvel-vs-capcom-3-game-smacktalk-3583/)
Awesome
Not enough Spidey quips!
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Hahahaha, Deadpool vs Magneto
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Hey, hey... are there any voice clips on the net already? Like... the ones of Zero? Or do I have to [tornado fang]ing rip dem bitches myself... which means I have to
download OBTAIN the game.
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Pick your team before it becomes Flavor of the month!
Chris Redfield/Zero/Sentinel
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Hahaha, oh man, some of the endings are not that good, but some are just great XD
[spoiler]I'll never get tired of seeing Phoenix Wright and Edgeworth hugging each other in fear of She Hulk's strength. Also, ROFL, it was Deadpool that destroyed Cleveland, not us! That bastard didn't even invite us to the party >=([/spoiler]
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My team will probably consist of Spidey, Thor, and Zero for the most part. However there are lots of characters I want to use. I've always liked IronMan. I'm looking forward to Amaretsu. So yeah, lots of choices.
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Zero/Tron/Thor
That's who I'll use.
And if X does get in as DLC, then replace Thor with him.
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Hey, hey... are there any voice clips on the net already? Like... the ones of Zero? Or do I have to [tornado fang]ing rip dem bitches myself... which means I have to download OBTAIN the game.
Download this game? Really?
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My mains will be....
Capcom Side:
Dante, Amaterasu ([tornado fang] yeah!), and Zero.
Marvel:
Deadpool, Taskmaster, and Wolverine.
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Some of the endigs really are lol
[spoiler]Silver SUrfer driving Zero to the period of Megaman Zero? Lol..I wish he could meet some people from there :D[/spoiler]
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Download this game? Really?
What? You expect me to buy it just so I can rip voice clips? REALLY?!
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For me, it will be 8 that I'll mix and match:
Capcom:
Dante, Zero, Amaterasu, and Viewtiful Joe
Marvel:
Deadpool, X-23, MODOK, and Taskmaster
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Some of the endigs really are lol
[spoiler]Silver SUrfer driving Zero to the period of Megaman Zero? Lol..I wish he could meet some people from there :D[/spoiler]
That seems like it would be kind of traumatic actually...
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Gonna mix it up with:
Capcom
Ryu
Chun-li
Morrigan
C. Viper
Jill
Tron
Zero
Felicia
Ammy
Akuma
Dante
Marvel
Captain America
Deadpool
Phoenix
She-Hulk
Spidey
X-23
Thor
Logan
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FeliciaNyan~ :cookie:
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FeliciaNyan~ :cookie:
I didn't see that coming =)
Posted on: February 13, 2011, 05:51:40
Ok so my friend has the game and he told me there is no spectator mode, he also told me that there can be up to 8 people in a lobby. As awesome as 8 people can be not being able to watch any matches can get pretty boring while waiting for your turn. I put a suggestion in the suggestion box at capcom unity. S-kill said that Capcom listens to that box so if you think there should be a mode just follow the link and give it a vote.
http://www.capcom-unity.com/go/suggestion/box?type=r (http://www.capcom-unity.com/go/suggestion/box?type=r)
A copy of the suggestion is below. I posted it under Louis.
Spectator Mode
I can't wait for this game but I think half of the fun is watching people beat on each other. I think using DLC in order to add a Spectator mode (if possible) should be a high priority. From what I hear 8 people can be in the lobby, that's a long time staring at nothing. Either way thanks for making MvsC3.
( Games->Versus Games )
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That seems like it would be kind of traumatic actually...
"I'm wearing a what..?"
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Ok so my friend has the game and he told me there is no spectator mode, he also told me that there can be up to 8 people in a lobby. As awesome as 8 people can be not being able to watch any matches can get pretty boring while waiting for your turn. I put a suggestion in the suggestion box at capcom unity. S-kill said that Capcom listens to that box so if you think there should be a mode just follow the link and give it a vote.
Fine, I voted. I also put up my Hanna Barbera vs. Capcom suggestion again. I'm pumping that to them till they ban me from the site.
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What was that other one before? Vs Kelloggs? Always thought that one was pretty funny too.
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(http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/NewAgeOfBreakfast_.png)
Indeed it was :3
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Sagat's level 3 could be him eating a box of Cornflakes!
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"I'm wearing a what..?"
Well, I was thinking more of the whole "everybody's dead Dave" part...
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I'll just leave this right here.
(http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/2608/bdd067c8c50448833b999f5.jpg)
... And I GUESS I could leave the source (http://www.capcom-unity.com/jgonzo/blog/2011/02/14/marvel_vs._capcom_3_media_explosion) as well.
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retro and side costumes?
sweet~
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Those costumes are awesome! Too bad we have to pay for them if we want them, though. I'll probably pass.
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What Fxeni said, except that I don't think I'll be able to resist ;___;
What will Zero's alt be? Honestly, I REALLY don't want MMZ Zero unless they also give you the option of an alt. moveset that uses all of his ____ Rods, Z-Knuckle, and maybe some cyber elves.
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Wow, that SF1 Ryu costume is amazing. Zero could go for a Colonel, Iris, or Vile theme. Wonder how that'd turn out?
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Zero cross-dressing as Iris? He has the breasts for it I guess...
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Demon Pimp Sparda.
[tornado fang] yes.
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It seems VERY likely that Zero's will be his Future Zero incarnation.
Zero - My name is Zero, not Mega Man Zero.
Silver Surfer - But you sure look like him....
Zero - B(
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Might just as well be his .EXE version. Or one of the earlier SNES designs...
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For the love of God I need more people to fight me!
Add me. Now. Do it. Darth Seran. Xbox 360.
So far my team is:
X-23
Zero/Wolverine
Morrigan/Akuma
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I got the PS3 version! ^_^
Free Online Play plus I have MvC1 for the PSX so it didn't feel right to have 3 on the 360.
My Main Team:
Zero
Chris
Amaterasu
PSN: VirusChris
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I have to pick up my copy from Lou tonight.
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I got the PS3 version! ^_^
Free Online Play plus I have MvC1 for the PSX so it didn't feel right to have 3 on the 360.
My Main Team:
Zero
Chris
Amaterasu
PSN: VirusChris
Lets rock. Friend request sent.
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For the love of God I need more people to fight me!
Add me. Now. Do it. Darth Seran. Xbox 360.
So far my team is:
X-23
Zero/Wolverine
Morrigan/Akuma
Will do later tonight when I have the game.
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Online play's gonna suck for me; by the time I get this game, I'll either have at least 2 days to play it online or my Gold membership is already over.
Damn you, Microsoft...
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Will do later tonight when I have the game.
I'll be on and playing for the next dozen or so hours, so I'll def. be around.
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I'll be on and playing for the next dozen or so hours, so I'll def. be around.
LoL, you're gonna have a lot more practice than us! XD
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(Package status: Somewhere in rural Indiana)
...welp. Last time I order from Capcom direct. Oh well, PS3 version, I'll still wind up kicking the teeth out of people online.
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Got some practice in. Not too sure how I'll do against others, but I'll have fun either way :P
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LoL, you're gonna have a lot more practice than us! XD
I've already put in a good eight hours. :D
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I see you on Chris. Let's go!
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I've already put in a good eight hours. :D
LoL, wellllllllllll [parasitic bomb]! XD
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Got it. Currently messing around in training mode to get a feel for the characters. Haven't unlocked anyone yet, so the only spot on my team so far is Amaterasu.
PSN is Dei_Enyt, though don't go in expecting a challenge from me. =P
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I see you on Chris. Let's go!
Let me know when you're ready, I was practicing learning the button layout and how to perform utilize my characters in combat.
I'm ready whenever you are.
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Capgod has abandoned me, there was nothing left but the ugly regular edition ;__;
LoL, you're gonna have a lot more practice than us! XD
Since you're saying that to Divine am I correct in assuming you'll be getting the 360 version PB? :P
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Sheesh OBJECTION MAN you're really tough! I guess I got a lot of practice to do to fully master the game and the characters, but because of that I've gotten ideas for what my Sub Teams will be like! ^_^
I kinda pulled a muscle in my arm in a few matches trying to beat you, I'm so use to BlazBlue's air dash system alongwith the barrier burst to get out of combos that I got to remind myself this is a different game.
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Yeah, the lack of air dash for every character is a little annoying since I'm so use to it from BBCS. Great game though, with an impressively diverse cast. It's a tad laggy but a hell of a lot better than TVC. It's playable.
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^Indeed
And good matches by the way. You're an awesome fighter! I'm learning a lot and getting better each time!
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Thanks. I see you improve well each time.
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Thank you! ^_^
And sheesh can the game at least give you a little more break time between each fight? It does get tiring fighting over and over again without pause.
Also I feel bad for NamineXIII in our group, hasn't won a single match yet... but good experience for 'em right to improve for next time? :D
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This timelimit bull is really pissing me off. That's twice we were down to the wire and it was anyone's game. I really hate that. Considering it's a 3v3 system they should have upped the time or added more, longer, time options.
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That's happened to me and my friend numerous times. I also refuse to play with more than one person at a time because I don't want to sit and stare at bouncing player cards.
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This timelimit bull is really pissing me off. That's twice we were down to the wire and it was anyone's game. I really hate that. Considering it's a 3v3 system they should have upped the time or added more, longer, time options.
Agreed... true that it did save me a few times, but I rather win a match by my skills rather than a timer. Isn't there an unlimited timelimit count on this mode?
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They don't do unlimited online because tards would setup matches and leave them to be dicks and it would bog down the server.
I don't mind the rotation between three people though. It does give me time for a cup of tea at least. A little break isn't so bad. I would have preferred to see the match itself though.
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True, it's a good way to gauge someone's fighting style and prepare before hand to know what to expect.
All we got are some HP bars of the team you have to see who's got the upper hand...
By the way.... NOOOO! I almost had that match and would've gotten a new Trophy! There was 3 seconds left on the clock on the match got disconnected! That's just not fair dude... :'(
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Youre not set to rotate. You have to press Traingle.
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Sorry... forgot to do that.
And what the heck NamineXIII? Does this person hate me or something?
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Why do you say that? He had to leave for now.
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Oh well... it got laggy from our last match and when we were about to fight again the match got disconnected. Would've been nice to know if he was leaving...
And damn... I thought I had you in the end with Felicia!
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I started with the mission. Zero's went down easily though I was surprised you'd need to do a TK Sentsuizan, Ryu's was just as easy, but Ammy's 6 and 7 were quite hard, harder than the ones that followed actually x___x Man how I wish Ammy changed weapons a little bit more like Rock.
Oh yeah, and the notation is really weird in Spanish. Standing Debil? Standing Fuerte? The [tornado fang]ing hell Capcom XD
This timelimit bull is really pissing me off. That's twice we were down to the wire and it was anyone's game. I really hate that. Considering it's a 3v3 system they should have upped the time or added more, longer, time options.
You guys just say that because you're just starting. From what I've seen the time limit is definitely more than enough.
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Sorry... but I got to go, my mom is mad and she wants me to do the dishes. See ya tomorrow!
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God damn, where are all the Xbox 360 players?
Aw well. Break time until someone with the testicular fortitude to play with me shows up.
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Everyone went PS3, sorry.
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That's gay.
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I'll be there as soon as I finish Dante's challenges...
Posted on: February 15, 2011, 10:16:46 PM
There we go. Didn't you use to have another GT or am I confusing you for someone else?
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Nope, it's always been Darth Seran.
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So the latter then. Well, the invite was sent. Just be aware I have no idea what I'm doing with most characters yet. Hell, I've only touched 5 so far >.>
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Sorry dude, just happened to get me at the worst possible time lol. Just gotta deal with the womanz for a bit and then I can play. I'll throw out an invite when I can.
Edit: MUTLITASKING. Or not. Way to play with your FRIENDS.
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Since you're saying that to Divine am I correct in assuming you'll be getting the 360 version PB? :P
You are correct, sir!
Although I'll probably eventually get the PS3 version too, when I have more money. We'll see.
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Capcom Unity is letting us vote on characters for DLC. Make sure you read and follow the rules so that they count your vote and don't delete it. Also the polls will be locked at night to prevent people from cheating. It looks like they are taking this seriously.
This is for the Marvel votes:
Marvel (http://www.capcom-unity.com/marvelvscapcom/go/thread/view/102977/26995769/Marvel_Character_DLC_Voting_Thread_(READ_THE_RULES))
This is for the Capcom votes:
Capcom (http://www.capcom-unity.com/marvelvscapcom/go/thread/view/102977/26995765/Capcom_Character_DLC_Voting_Thread_(READ_THE_RULES))
The Capcom ones I voted for are:
X
Protoman
Phoenix Wright
Shoma
Fokker
I threw Protoman in there for PB. I kinda wish I remembered about Nina from BoF2, oh and Momo. I would have replaced Wright with one of them since he is getting a ton of votes anyway.
The Marvel ones I voted for are:
Blink (Exiles)
Daredevil
Black Panther
Spider-Girl (Arana)
Thing
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Sorry dude, just happened to get me at the worst possible time lol. Just gotta deal with the womanz for a bit and then I can play. I'll throw out an invite when I can.
Edit: MUTLITASKING. Or not. Way to play with your FRIENDS.
I would've invited you to the lobby, but I don't want to bore you to death watching a literal card battle. God damn it Capcom, patch in spectators ASAP =/
You are correct, sir!
Although I'll probably eventually get the PS3 version too, when I have more money. We'll see.
Well, I'll send you a friend request later then, is Lou on 360 too?
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I would've invited you to the lobby, but I don't want to bore you to death watching a literal card battle. God damn it Capcom, patch in spectators ASAP =/
That's what I'm doing right now. Fight a couple of matches, play on Facebook for ten minutes, repeat.
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Well, tomorrow it'll be then.
Posted on: February 15, 2011, 11:30:14 PM
Btw, Doc Ock and Frank West for second batch of DLC chars kinda confirmed.
(http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/9460/mvc3decrypted1.png)
http://shoryuken.com/content/rumor-decrypting-marvel-vs-capcom-3-reveals-dlc-characters-3632/
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Considering Frank was in the earlier builds, no surprise he was going to show up again. And I'm happy a Spider Man villain is finally showing up. I was brainstorming an X movelist earlier. I should write that stuff down, actually.
Got the game at midnight last night. Played it till 4AM. I'm not sure about Haggar on my team now, actually. The grapplers in general aren't appealing to me as much as Alex did in TvC. I'm going to try and give Tron a shot. Zero is still a definite. And in the pool of candidates are Wolvie, X23, Iron Man, Morrigan, and Dante.
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Doc Oc? Do freaking want. The man's got to be my favorite Marvel villain of all time.
... wait, are all of the Marvel DLC characters going to involve tentacles now? 8|
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I would've invited you to the lobby, but I don't want to bore you to death watching a literal card battle. God damn it Capcom, patch in spectators ASAP =/
Well, I'll send you a friend request later then, is Lou on 360 too?
Yes he is. BTW, my name is SZIN DRAGON on the XBL!
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Got a strategy guide up on GFAQs if anyone wants to view it.
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Good lord, how does anyone manage to do ANYTHING on a 360?
I mean, I guess it's my first time playing MvC3 in general, and I don't OWN one, so that could probably explain some stuff, but still...It just feels unnatural...and then you get off of TvC and realize that air-dashing isn't a god-given right anymore...
Probably gonna grab this for the PS3 on account of the above. More of a Sony-type of dude (I like their control pad much, much better).
BTW, are there any unique X-Factors? Like, are they all unique, or are most of them simple strength/speed boosts? I know Dormy's heals, and Morrigan makes clones, and I know about the "less living people=more power" thing, but that's about it...
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Yeah, I dislike timed matches with friends.
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I just pre-ordered for the Europe release, i should get it on Saturday/Monday.
Hopefully my new wrappz skin will arrive for my PS3 before then >_> I'll be having some mates around for the release so i wanna show off :p
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so wait.... what version of MvC3 should I get? I ain't investing $300 in Canadian money on 2 fightsticks!
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Yeah, I dislike timed matches with friends.
This can be changed... right? Right?
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so wait.... what version of MvC3 should I get? I ain't investing $300 in Canadian money on 2 fightsticks!
If you're buying a fight stick just for MvC3, don't bother. The game plays like TvC; it doesn't need a fight stick. The controller works perfectly. My friend started using his and ended up putting it away.
Good lord, how does anyone manage to do ANYTHING on a 360?
How does anyone manage to do ANYTHING on the PS3? I can't stand those controllers.
This can be changed... right? Right?
No.
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[tornado fang].
Oh well...
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so wait.... what version of MvC3 should I get? I ain't investing $300 in Canadian money on 2 fightsticks!
You don't need to. 360 sticks work on PS3s, but not the other way around.
I haven't had any problems playing the game on the new rotating dpad 360 controller. I never tried my stock controller because I know better.
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This is for the Marvel votes:
Marvel (http://www.capcom-unity.com/marvelvscapcom/go/thread/view/102977/26995769/Marvel_Character_DLC_Voting_Thread_(READ_THE_RULES))
This is for the Capcom votes:
Capcom (http://www.capcom-unity.com/marvelvscapcom/go/thread/view/102977/26995765/Capcom_Character_DLC_Voting_Thread_(READ_THE_RULES))
Okay, I did this! Yay!
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Okay, so who voted and and who did you vote for? As for which version I have I bought the collector editions for both systems.
PSN name is Ninja_Lou
Gamer Tag is Ninja Lou 53
If you add me just make a note in the message that you are an RPMer. It will take me a bit to add people because I'm still doing (starting) a paper.
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Is anyone else getting tired of having to fight Dante online?
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If you add me just make a note in the message that you are an RPMer. It will take me a bit to add people because I'm still doing (starting) a paper.
Last sentence - "And this is why, in my opinion, I want to take you for a ride!"
Teacher - "Um Lou, what does any of this have to do with the impact of statistics on our economy?"
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Okay, so who voted and and who did you vote for? As for which version I have I bought the collector editions for both systems.
I only did Capcom so far, but I put:
Mega Man X
Strider
Jon Talbain (Darkstalkers)
Ryu (Breath of Fire)
Red Arremer
Is anyone else getting tired of having to fight Dante online?
Eh, I've been running into more Akumas. Dantes are certainly up there though.
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http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/562471
I have no idea why I laughed so much at this XD
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I was brainstorming an X movelist earlier. I should write that stuff down, actually.
Alright, here it is.
[spoiler=MvC3 Mega Man X movelist]The Simple Stuff:
-X's speed, health, and strength are all average.
-He cannot double jump, but he can air dash forward and backward.
-When blocking, the blue aura sphere from X3's armor upgrade appears around him. If X blocks for more than three seconds, the aura turns red.
-X's intro mimics his intro from the Playstation X games. As does his outro, though it's slowed down to accommodate win quotes.
Regular Moves:
standing L --- X jabs forward quickly
standing M --- X kicks in an upward arc, much like the Mega Ball kick from MM8
standing H --- Double Cyclone; X thrusts both hands to the sides, then releases green orbs from each hand. Unlike the regular move, they don't travel anywhere. Both orbs and X's hands can deal damage.
forward+H --- Strike Chain; X fires a grappling hook forward that retracts once it reaches its maximum length (about 1.5 paces ahead of X) or hits the opponent. If it hits the opponent, X is reeled in towards them. He can only follow this up with a Hyper Combo.
backward+H --- Fire Wave; X fires a stream of flames forward about the same distance as Strike Chain. This is functionally identical to Chris' flamethrower.
S --- Tornado Fang; X produces a drill at the end of his buster and performs an uppercut. It's basically Volnutt's Drill Upper from TvC, but this is X's launcher.
crouching L --- X jabs forward quickly again
crouching M --- Acid Burst; X fires a bubble of acid on the ground in front of him. On contact with the ground, it splashes a little to the left and right. All parts of the projectile hit multiple times and stun the opponent a bit. The initial attack hits OTG.
crouching H --- X spins 360 degrees around with his leg out
j.L --- X jabs quickly again, but this time diagonally downward
j.M --- X kicks forward with his foot
j.H --- Drift Diamond; X spins around once while a group of 6 ice clumps circle around his body
j.S --- X slashes in front of and slightly below him with the Blade Armor's sword
Forward and backward grab --- X judo flips his opponent onto the ground, steps on their stomach, and fires a weak charge shot at their face.
Air grab --- X tosses his opponent down to the ground and fires 3 uncharged shots at them while falling until he lands on top of them.
Special Moves:
hold any button and release --- X Buster; X charges his buster, then fires. He can charge his buster to up to four levels. The first three function identically to Zero's in that there's no difference between them. The fourth level, however, differs depending on the button used, and costs 1 hyper bar to use:
--- L releases the Hermes Armor spread shot. One blast fires forward, one diagonally upward, one diagonally downward. Each blast by itself is not terribly strong, but it covers a lot of ground, and does quite a bit at point blank.
--- M releases the pink helix shot from X1. The blast is taller than a lvl3 charge shot and hits multiple times.
--- H releases the Plasma Shot from X4. The size of the blast is identical to a lvl3. The initial hit is about the same strength as a lvl3, but the blast creates a wave of energy when it makes contact, adding a bunch more hits afterwards. If the initial blast is blocked, the extra wave is still produced.
--- If S is charged and released, X swings the Z Saber downward much like in X3. The length of the saber is slightly shorter than Zero's, but the damage is remarkable.
quarter circle forward + attack (air OK) --- Ray Arrow; X fires a beam of light forward. It's y position changes with X's y position, so if X jumps after performing the move, the Ray Arrow will move up with him. The L version is slow and weak, but comes out quickly. The M version is faster and stronger, but has a bit more startup. The H version fires two Ray Arrows stacked vertically. The speed of the blasts are identical to the M version, but they're stronger and come out slower. This move is X's Beta assist.
dragon punch + attack --- Wing Spiral; X performs a Shoryuken-style uppercut and leaps into the air, with trails of wind circling around him. At the end of the attack, the wind rises upward and continues to deal damage. The stronger the button used, the higher the wind rises. This move is X's Alpha assist.
quarter circle back + attack --- Crystal Wall; X raises his hands from the ground to above his head, summoning an orange crystal stalagmite out of the ground. The button used determines where it appears. L is right in front of X, M 2 paces ahead of X, and H 5 paces. It stays up for 2 seconds, then falls and crumbles. It will fall earlier if any character (including X) or an attack comes in contact with it. It nullifies regular projectiles. It does damage on the way up and when it falls. This move is X's Gamma assist.
half circle forward + attack (air OK) --- Speed Burner; X dashes forward a generous distance while enveloped in fire. It hits multiple times, and the amount of hits increase with the strength of the button used.
half circle forward + S (air OK) --- Nova Strike; X leaps into the air then flies forward while enveloped in a golden aura. The startup is long, but the move hits more and hits harder than Speed Burner.
Hyper Combos:
quarter circle forward + two attacks (1 meter) --- Double Charge; X quickly charges both busters. He releases the charge on his dominant hand, then the opposite. The first charge shot is bigger than a normal charge shot, hits four times, and makes the opponent fall to their knees. The second charge is even larger, hits 7 times, and causes a wall bounce. If you hold S during the move, you can cancel the second charge shot and keep it in reserve. You can move around and attack as you want, just with the limitation of not being able to use S. When you release S, you'll fire the second charge. If you switch partners while holding the second charge, you will lose the charge when X returns to the field.
quarter circle back + two attacks (1 meter) (air OK) --- Giga Crash; X floats in the air while crossing his arms in front of him. He then spreads his arms out, creating a explosion spreading outward in a circle. The maximum diameter of the blast is three times X's wingspan. It hits so long as an opponent is in the radius of the blast, but the move is not terribly powerful.
dragon punch + two attacks (3 meters) --- Shining Finger; X punches hard forward while the gem on his helmet shines brightly. If the hit connects, the opponent is sent flying backward. X then gets into stance as his hand begins to glow a bright blue. As the opponent staggers to their feet, X leaps forward and grabs his opponent's face with his glowing hand. A beat later, X screams and fires a large Shinkuu Hadoken-type energy blast from his glowing hand. The opponent is blasted into a wall. When the blast ends, they fall from the wall onto their face.
[/spoiler]
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I glanced through the pages and X is doing well. I saw MegaMan.exe alot and even a few Protomans. I really wish I voted for Nina or Momo.... bah.
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I glanced through the pages and X is doing well. I saw MegaMan.exe alot and even a few Protomans. I really wish I voted for Nina or Momo.... bah.
I voted for Vile! XD
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They need to bring back Hayato, or maybe bust out some Breath of Fire characters.
Edit: The game also needs more Gambit. Much, much more Gambit.
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Even though Fokker is the most likely choice from Power Stone, I voted for my girl Rouge!
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They need to bring back Hayato, or maybe bust out some Breath of Fire characters.
Edit: The game also needs more Gambit. Much, much more Gambit.
Agreed on all accounts. I had a lot of fun with Gambit, personally. Probably going to be on my Marvel request list.
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Well, after going about 20 rounds with Galactus and finally beating him, and seeing Spidey's Combo list, it's safe to say that I still suck quite handedly at these types of fighting games! 8D
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You will develop your own combos and get better at the game. It was made for people like you in mind.
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Okay, so who voted and and who did you vote for? As for which version I have I bought the collector editions for both systems.
For Capcom: Megaman X, Sigma (preferably X1 or X4), Ryu (Breath of Fire), Ryoma (Power Stone), and Phoenix Wright
Marvel: Carnage, Venom, Gambit, Juggernaut, and Silver Surfer.
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Well, after going about 20 rounds with Galactus and finally beating him, and seeing Spidey's Combo list, it's safe to say that I still suck quite handedly at these types of fighting games! 8D
I saw Dante's combo list.
My jaw dropped.
Then my friend showed me that Dante has unlisted added extensions to attacks, and he gains even more of these in his Devil state.
My copy cannot get here soon enough.
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I've gotta turn my Spidey into a Sentinel slayer. Like, seriously. He's slow as hell, yet the sweep kick and the beam are always hitting. >_>
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(http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/1189455874_N7Mvi-L.jpg) (http://www.penny-arcade.com/2011/2/16/)
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So I'm playing the game with my friends. Just as I hit a ten win streak, one guy invites a friend of his. Dudes rank is 6th Lord, has 227 wins and 74 losses. That's a win rate of 75.16%. Longest win streak is 23.
He's using Wesker, Morrigan and Tron. I can generally only take down one of his characters before he decimates me.
Quick edit: I do fine until he busts out Morrigan. Then he just rapes my face off.
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Okay, here are my votes:
Marvel:
1. Gambit
2. Carnage
3. US Archer
4. Squirrel Girl
5. Black Cat
Capcom:
1. Mega Man X
2. Strider Hiryu
3. Franziska von Karma
4. Poison
5. Sigma
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You will develop your own combos and get better at the game. It was made for people like you in mind.
The main problem right now is the controller. The 360 DPad sucks so bad that I figured out why I'm not dashing forward as much as I dash upwards, because the DPad is just that [tornado fang]ing awful. Also, the pad you lent me sucks for me because all the buttons confuses my terrible at fighting games brain!
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Have you tried the rotating d pad controller? It's much better imo. If not, Gamestop controller d pads are really good.
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The main problem right now is the controller. The 360 DPad sucks so bad that I figured out why I'm not dashing forward as much as I dash upwards, because the DPad is just that [tornado fang]ing awful. Also, the pad you lent me sucks for me because all the buttons confuses my terrible at fighting games brain!
Yeah, that 360 dpad x.x
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Have you tried the rotating d pad controller? It's much better imo. If not, Gamestop controller d pads are really good.
Yeah, I'll have to look into those.
Yeah, that 360 dpad x.x
I know. Hold me! 8D
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If you have problems dashing you should bind one of the shoulder buttons to two attack buttons so that you can use it for dashing. Sure, won't solve the real problem that the 360 regular controller SUCKS, but it should make your life a bit easier I guess.
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Yeah, my general dislike of the 360 Dpad was an extra nail on the coffin for the 360 version.
I'm doing alright in the online wilderness, although all the Akuma and Dante players is making it a little less interesting than it should. Yeesh, people should experiment more. On the plus side, there's less Sentinels than I feared there would be.
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The main problem right now is the controller. The 360 DPad sucks so bad that I figured out why I'm not dashing forward as much as I dash upwards, because the DPad is just that [tornado fang]ing awful. Also, the pad you lent me sucks for me because all the buttons confuses my terrible at fighting games brain!
I say work with the Ryu pad I lent you for now. Just remap the buttons till you find something your brain can handle, at least the D-pad for the Ryu pad is better then the 360 one. Try this layout
L H P1
M S P2 and use the shoulder button as a 2 attack button to help you do supers.
You can also try
L M H L M H
S P1 P2 or P1 P2 S and use the shoulder button as a 2 attack button to help you do supers.
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You're talking about those fightpads? I only got to play around with one at the SDA Marathon. That big d pad felt boss. And I hear those are great for playing as grapplers.
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I say work with the Ryu pad I lent you for now. Just remap the buttons till you find something your brain can handle, at least the D-pad for the Ryu pad is better then the 360 one. Try this layout
L H P1
M S P2 and use the shoulder button as a 2 attack button to help you do supers.
You can also try
L M H L M H
S P1 P2 or P1 P2 S and use the shoulder button as a 2 attack button to help you do supers.
I already tried those. Brain did not compute.
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Yeah, my general dislike of the 360 Dpad was an extra nail on the coffin for the 360 version.
I'm doing alright in the online wilderness, although all the Akuma and Dante players is making it a little less interesting than it should. Yeesh, people should experiment more. On the plus side, there's less Sentinels than I feared there would be.
I feel bad whenever people talk about how overused certain characters are/will be when I already know that I wanted to play them from forever and a day ago. Dante especially, he is just a walking swiss army knife of playstyles (why is it that it took the [really well done] SRK wiki vids on the character for me to see 26 maneuvers that I have never seen put into practice by most Dantes? Also WTF HE CAN JUMP CANCEL EVERYTHING, IT'S LIKE 2D DMC3 IN THIS [sonic slicer]), which I need as a crux to support Phoenix & Morrigan (meter building & Jam Session assist shenanigans). It actually reminds me of how I felt when I tell folks I'm a Marth main in Smash. XD
Meanwhile, I finally got to try this game out (for X360). This game needs a decent pad period. I'm the lord of the scrubs, but even I could tell something was up when I couldn't get a fireball or shoryuken motion to register on either the stick or d-pad. XD
Training mode in this game is going to consume my soul though, there is just so much [tornado fang]ing [parasitic bomb] you can do right off the bat that training mode becomes a game in and of itself.
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What I would've give to have my TatsuCap Classic Controller for this game.
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I already tried those. Brain did not compute.
I imagine you're talking about the fightpads, right? Were you just using your thumb or were you doing as if it was an arcade stick? I've never actually used one but to me they look like they're meant for the latter.
I feel bad whenever people talk about how overused certain characters are/will be when I already know that I wanted to play them from forever and a day ago.
I know the feeling, same thing happened to me in KoF XIII XD
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I imagine you're talking about the fightpads, right? Were you just using your thumb or were you doing as if it was an arcade stick? I've never actually used one but to me they look like they're meant for the latter.
Bingo!
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Hmm, have you tried using the face buttons only for the attacks and the shoulder buttons for assists?
Kinda like
A1---------A2
--+-----LM---
--------HS---
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LoL, yeah. It doesn't help! XD
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Reading back a little in the thread and realizing that I didn't list my votes for characters, I think I'll fix that now:
Capcom
Mega Man X
Strider
Ryu (BoF)
Nina (BoF)
Ruby Heart (I'm a sucker for her design and her trap setups are godly)
If I didn't want to make sure that Strider & X made it in with my votes, I would have picked Jedah/Demitri/B.B. Hood from Darkstalkers and Rouge from Power Stone just to indulge PB. XD
Marvel
Doctor Octopus
Nightcrawler/Silver Surfer
Ms. Marvel/Scarlet Witch
Doctor Strange
Juggernaut
No matter what, a Spidey villain has to make it in, and Juggernaut needs to come back for epic "Juggernaut, [sonic slicer]!" smack talk between my friends. XD
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I like that it's become a fight between Doc Ock and Venom for the Spiderman baddie front.
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Well it seems Doc Ock was going to get in anyway, so maybe Venom will make it later.
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I want Mysterio in, and I want him voiced by Bruce Campbell!
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Apparently people are voting for Bayonetta
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I haven't had to break this out in a while:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Satoryu/facepalm.gif)
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Apparently people are voting for Bayonetta
That's either amazingly ignorant or L-block levels of trolling magnificence there. XD
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Oooh boy, that's like asking for Master Cheif to be in the game.. -AC
If I were them I'd pick either Areo and/or The goddamn Thing. Ooooy.
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Licensing nightmare aside, you all know you'd orgasm at Dante and Bayonetta being anywhere near each other.
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There is much truth in that statement.
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Licensing nightmare aside, you all know you'd orgasm at Dante and Bayonetta being anywhere near each other.
Yup. Even better if they get to take digs at having the same father/developer behind them. Dante in MvC3 is beastly playstyle wise on top of it all, so I can only imagine how [tornado fang]ing insane Bayo would be.
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Well, it's finally happened. PB is better than me in a fighting game. He came over and started using the PS3 controller, and just continued to Spider-Sting my ass! I now concede defeat. I just can't understand it. It's like he's wielding the very power of Mjolnir itself. I give up! Nothing makes sense in this world anymore.
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Well with DNF coming out in just a scant few months and Legends 3 in the works, I'm inclined to agree about the nonsensical world part.
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Well, it's finally happened. PB is better than me in a fighting game. He came over and started using the PS3 controller, and just continued to Spider-Sting my ass! I now concede defeat. I just can't understand it. It's like he's wielding the very power of Mjolnir itself. I give up! Nothing makes sense in this world anymore.
It could be worse, it could be me blowing you out and I have zero experience with the ore traditional fighting games. XD
Meanwhile have some videos Mahvel-heads:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4Yapt1k3sA[/youtube]
Dante at 31:10 will make you [parasitic bomb] bricks, Spencer wrecking [parasitic bomb] with BIONIIIIIC ARRRRRRM!, Justin Wong blowing out fools with Wolverine and lots more, just skip around.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOVCpbupr_4&[/youtube]
Godlike Morrigan play, Haggar's pipe laying & world busting grappling, Clockwork vs. Neo rematch, Justin Wong beasting with Wolverine and a whole lot of other shenanigans here.
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I can't stand Justin Wong. He plays like a cheap [sonic slicer] and then cries when the same [parasitic bomb] happens to him, yet everyone thinks he's the BEST EVAR.
Edit: And that Dante bit did not make [parasitic bomb] bricks, as that's what I EXPECT from Dante players. He's broken as [tornado fang], and that's why so many people pick him.
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Well, it's finally happened. PB is better than me in a fighting game. He came over and started using the PS3 controller, and just continued to Spider-Sting my ass! I now concede defeat. I just can't understand it. It's like he's wielding the very power of Mjolnir itself. I give up! Nothing makes sense in this world anymore.
Ugh I forgot to logout while PB was here.
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Ugh I forgot to logout while PB was here.
What have you learned? 8D
I'll tell you what I've learned. The problem, for once, IS indeed the controller. I mean, I'm not good at the game, but I'm much much better with a PS3 controller than the 360 controller. [tornado fang]ing awful DPad. XD
Edit: And that Dante bit did not make [parasitic bomb] bricks, as that's what I EXPECT from Dante players. He's broken as [tornado fang], and that's why so many people pick him.
I'm inclined to agree after trying him out today. He's absolutely ridonkulous!
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What have you learned? 8D
I'll tell you what I've learned. The problem, for once, IS indeed the controller. I mean, I'm not good at the game, but I'm much much better with a PS3 controller than the 360 controller. [tornado fang]ing awful DPad. XD
See what I mean? The DPad makes a big difference.
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See what I mean? The DPad makes a big difference.
Oh totally. Like I said, I wish I had my Wii Classic Controller for this game, but the PS3 one works great. I mean, I'm gonna get that version later on when I actually have more money. LoL, as for my PS3 Spider-Man, Lou's reaction can amount to this...
(http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsN/51297.gif)
"HE STINKS, AND I DON'T LIKE HIM!"
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Finally got a chance to play MvC3 at a friend's house.
I VERY much enjoy it, even if for the crazy kinetic action, I probably won't ever be able to challenge high level players but...it's still damn enjoyable.
I really like using Zero as usual. Arthur....oh man, he's simple and just can be wonderfully MEAN when things go right, he's AWESOME.
Super Skrull is pretty neat to use. Sadly Deadpool and Spidey may take practise for me (I apparently keep thinking everyone has air dash, so I double tap in the air ALOT, leaving myself stupidly open.).
Galactus isn't too bad...but he is tricky since he does certain moves that are well, unblockable (that double palm squish for example, and the charge move he does at his second phase.), but, he's not that bad.
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Finally got the chance to vote before the poll closes today! ^_^
Capcom List:
1. Mega Man X
2. Axl
3. Sigma
4. Lillith
5. Strider Hiryu
Marvel List:
1. Venom
2. Nightcrawler
3. Carnage
4. Gambit
5. Daredevil
Unfortunately there weren't a lot of character I really want to be added to the game as DLC, besides X and Sigma (we need a Mega Man villain and Sigma is perfect!) and I can't remember off the top of my head what other characters I would've love to see to added as a DLC, it's been so long since I watched any of the old Marvel cartoon shows.
And I finally have a week off from school so I can play MvC3 all day long... until I have work. -_-
Well see you online guys for those who have the PS3 version!
And can you get Jill without the Collector's Edition? Because I got regular version of the game without realizing to check for the Collector's Edition.
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People actually want Carnage in the game.
Seriously?
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And can you get Jill without the Collector's Edition?
Yes. The only difference is if you got the collectors edition, you don't have to pay for her or Shuma.
Seriously?
I'd rather have Carnage then Venom, but not both.
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Sadly Deadpool and Spidey may take practise for me (I apparently keep thinking everyone has air dash, so I double tap in the air ALOT, leaving myself stupidly open.).
Spidey does indeed have an air dash!
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Anyone up for a couple of matches?
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Sure. I can do a couple before I have to record my podcast!
Posted on: February 19, 2011, 11:46:36 PM
Good god, I can't even put up a fight with this controller.
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Haha, oh well, ggs PB. The offer is still open for whoever wants.
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LoL, I just wish I could've given you a decent couple a matches. I mean, I'm definitely nowhere near your level, as you are really really good, but I'm much better than THAT! XD
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Oh, I know the 360 pad is a pain in the ass, don't worry.
Still, it's kinda sad that my connection with you was noticeably better than with other people in my country I've played XD
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So Arcade mode actually kind of sucks when you're playing on Very Hard.
Just throwin' that out there.
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Is Galactus still a huge freaking pushover?
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Dunno. I'm only on fight 6 so far.
Fighting him now.
He uses three new unblockable character destroying moves, at least three that I noticed. So that's attempt number one down.
God damn this [chameleon sting]er is cheap as hell. Does nothing but spam moves that you can't [tornado fang]ing block or move out of.
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Ok, someone explain how the [tornado fang]ing hell someone like 5 ranks above is considered to be around my skill level by the system.
Oh well, it was fun to kick his Sentinel's ass anyways XD
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Got him. 4 tries. Not bad.
Achievement unlocked etc. Feels good, man.
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Got him. 4 tries. Not bad.
Achievement unlocked etc. Feels good, man.
Now do it for every single other character to get all the titles :3
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That's easy, just burn through it on very easy with the damage set to highest.
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Not for the Very Hard titles o.o
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I forgot about the very hard titles, but the same thing applies. 30 second timer, highest damage. Win by time outs. Galactus is the only difficult part.
Mostly just focusing on the "View all Endings" achievement.
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Training with Zero is going well. Finally found a way to combo in his rekkoha.
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Anyone have any tips for using Tron?
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Anyone have any tips for using Tron?
Flamethrower assist is godly. That's about all I can say with certainty. I have to get ahold of the game to say anything more.
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Training with Zero is going well. Finally found a way to combo in his rekkoha.
Other than OTGing with it after knockdown?
Posted on: February 20, 2011, 12:41:33 PM
Flamethrower assist is godly. That's about all I can say with certainty. I have to get ahold of the game to say anything more.
Oh yeah, I've seen that you're pretty hyped about the game Jeri =P For what console will you get it?
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PS3 if he knows what's good for him.
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No, OTG is the only way.
Anyway I found some results on Capcom unity.
Updated Capcom top 20
1 Megaman X- 1560
2. Strider Hiryu 1462
3.Phoenix Wright 1131
4. Frank West 946
5. Gene 883
6. Captain Commando 532
7. Vergil 528
8. Mega Man Classic- around 500 (hard to differ since some dont specify)
9 Jin 479
10 Bison - 473
11. Jon Taliban - 361
12. Bass.EXE 315
13 Leon 282
14 Cammy 280
15 Ken 270
16 Sigma 270
17 Juri 255
18 Batsu-221
19 Chuck -210
20 Date -197
21 Jeddah 187
I am still looking for the Marvel side.
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No, OTG is the only way.
Anyway I found some results on Capcom unity.
Updated Capcom top 20
1 Megaman X- 1560
2. Strider Hiryu 1462
3.Phoenix Wright 1131
4. Frank West 946
5. Gene 883
6. Captain Commando 532
7. Vergil 528
8. Mega Man Classic- around 500 (hard to differ since some dont specify)
9 Jin 479
10 Bison - 473
11. Jon Taliban - 361
12. Bass.EXE 315
13 Leon 282
14 Cammy 280
15 Ken 270
16 Sigma 270
17 Juri 255
18 Batsu-221
19 Chuck -210
20 Date -197
21 Jeddah 187
I am still looking for the Marvel side.
Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh.
I HATE YOU ALL! B(
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MegaMan X would be a great addition. Sigma would be a better one, but meh.
Yukimura/Date would also be awesome, but if Capcom does actually pay attention to any of these, I'll be happy if I get to play as X.
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Oh yeah, I've seen that you're pretty hyped about the game Jeri =P For what console will you get it?
Dat PSTriple. XD
Sorry Xbox bros, but no way am I paying for Live.
No, OTG is the only way.
Anyway I found some results on Capcom unity.
Updated Capcom top 20
1 Megaman X- 1560
2. Strider Hiryu 1462
3.Phoenix Wright 1131
4. Frank West 946
5. Gene 883
6. Captain Commando 532
7. Vergil 528
8. Mega Man Classic- around 500 (hard to differ since some dont specify)
9 Jin 479
10 Bison - 473
11. Jon Taliban - 361
12. Bass.EXE 315
13 Leon 282
14 Cammy 280
15 Ken 270
16 Sigma 270
17 Juri 255
18 Batsu-221
19 Chuck -210
20 Date -197
21 Jeddah 187
I am still looking for the Marvel side.
Why must I always be cursed to love the obscure characters in a given company's repetoire? [slightly poking sarcasm] I mean, do people think a lawyer who points and shots objection is that much more interesting than an inter-canon traveling pirate (Ruby Heart), Capcom's own take on a super sayian/flaming gypsy woman (Wang Tang & Rouge), or shapeshifters, one of which turns into a [tornado fang]ing dragon?! (Ryu & Nina from Breath of Fire)[/slightly poking sarcasm]
The mind, it's boggled. XD
For reference's sake, these were the ones I wished for in some capacity:
Makoto, Ken & Juri (Street Fighter)
Mega Man X, Roll (classic) & Bass.EXE (Megaman Series)
Strider
B.B. Hood, Anarkis, Jedah & Demitri (Jon Taliban is cool though) (Darkstalkers)
Wang Tang & Rouge (Power Stone)
Ryu & Nina (Breath of Fire)
Ruby Heart (MvC2, also pirates are awesome.)
Gene (God Hand)
Vanessa (P.N.03)
Phoenix Wright
Joke Option - Zack & Wiki duo
I find it weird that the more interesting options for this roster comes entirely from Capcom's side though.
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No, OTG is the only way.
Anyway I found some results on Capcom unity.
Updated Capcom top 20
1 Megaman X- 1560
2. Strider Hiryu 1462
3.Phoenix Wright 1131
4. Frank West 946
5. Gene 883
6. Captain Commando 532
7. Vergil 528
8. Mega Man Classic- around 500 (hard to differ since some dont specify)
9 Jin 479
10 Bison - 473
11. Jon Taliban - 361
12. Bass.EXE 315
13 Leon 282
14 Cammy 280
15 Ken 270
16 Sigma 270
17 Juri 255
18 Batsu-221
19 Chuck -210
20 Date -197
21 Jeddah 187
I am still looking for the Marvel side.
How the hell are Blues and Forte not on that list?!?
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Meanwhile, on the Marvel side of things:
Marvel Top 10 (estimated votes)
Venom 1679
Gambit 1426
Cyclops 940
Ghost Rider 933
Psylocke 804
Carnage 782
Green Goblin 654
Ms. Marvel 649
Nightcrawler 561
Dr. Strange 431
Three out of my 5 most wanted made it here. Dr. Strange, Ms. Marvel & Nightcrawler... have [parasitic bomb] tier luck with this stuff. XD
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How the hell are Blues and Forte not on that list?!?
Forte is on there. It's just the EXE version.
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Forte is on there. It's just the EXE version.
Honestly, he'd be the best rep they could pull from the EXE side of things. A villain and a character with unique moveset potential? Yes please.
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Meanwhile, on the Marvel side of things:
Marvel Top 10 (estimated votes)
Venom 1679
Gambit 1426
Cyclops 940
Ghost Rider 933
Psylocke 804
Carnage 782
Green Goblin 654
Ms. Marvel 649
Nightcrawler 561
Dr. Strange 431
Three out of my 5 most wanted made it here. Dr. Strange, Ms. Marvel & Nightcrawler... have [parasitic bomb] tier luck with this stuff. XD
Sigh, no one wants the Spider-Friends!
Ah well, at least Dr. Strange is up there. Also Nightcrawler, my favorite mutant next to IceMan.
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Fuckin' right. Gambit needs moar votes!
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Voting's already closed. The Top 10 for each side will be announced soon.
EDIT: Marvel's full results
1.Venom - 2013
2.Gambit- 1681
3.Cyclops- 1097
4.Ghost Rider - 1086
5.Carnage -976
6.Psylocke - 962
7.Ms Marvel 785
8.Dr Strange 746
9.Night Crawler - 749
10.Green Goblin - 741
11.Iron Fist - 542
12.Juggernaut - 528
13.Cable - 491
14.Silver Surfer - 453
15.Daredevil - 447
16.Rogue - 425
17.Blade - 394
18.Black Panther(T'challa)-360
19.Emma Frost - 351
20.Thanos - 314
21.Dr Octopus -306
22.Squirrel Girl - 245
23.Moon Knight - 226
24.Electra - 221
25.Black Cat -217
26.Howard the Duck - 212
27.Black Heart - 181
28.Ice-Man - 179
29.Hawkeye- 166
30.Apocalypse - 159
31.Songbird - 140
32.Omega Red - 129
33.Sentry - 128
34.Bishop - 126
35.Spider Woman - 125
36.Jubilee - 125
37.Nico Minoru - 124
38.War Machine - 120
39.Luke Cage - 118
40.Beast - 112
41.Scarlet Witch -108
42.Mr Sinister - 108
43.Namor - 103
44.Nick Fury -101
45.Collosus - 93
46.Archangel - 90
47.Professor X - 79
48.Galacta - 76
49.Black Widow - 75
50.Ultron - 74
51.Mysterio - 74
52.Sandman - 71
53.Havok - 68
54.Spiral - 65
55.Mystique - 59
56.Silver Samurai -43
57.Bullseye - 42
58.Hercules - 33
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Howard the Duck... You got to be kidding me. XD
I'm suprised he's even remembered at all. Especially in a fighting game, how he's gonna handle would be quite intresting actually.
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Howard the Duck... You got to be kidding me. XD
I'm suprised he's even remembered at all. Especially in a fighting game, how he's gonna handle would be quite intresting actually.
I don't think he made it in. If anything he would be the Joke character of the century.
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1.Venom - 2013
3.Cyclops- 1097
12. Bass.EXE 315
16 Sigma 270
GREAT SUCCESS owob
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I should put down my gamertag. If you want to play me, 360ers, just shoot an invite to cwSatoryu.
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I just want to say, [tornado fang] Ironman's mission 9.
I'll shoot you an invite Sato. International online play should be smoother than playing with people from my country from what I've seen (hell, intercontinental was smoother than these last few matches >_>).
Posted on: February 20, 2011, 10:02:39 PM
If you were saying something to me I can't hear anything .___.
Posted on: February 20, 2011, 10:38:43 PM
Well that was fun but I have to go. Good games :)
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33.Sentry - 128
128? [tornado fang]ing SENTRY GOT 128 VOTES? 128 PEOPLE VOTED FOR THAT [tornado fang]?!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35TbGjt-weA[/youtube]
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All the people expecting classic Venom are going to be in for a rude awakening when it's the Flash Thompson Venom.
(http://images.wikia.com/marveldatabase/images/e/e3/Venom_Vol_2_2_Textless.jpg)
He's like Spiderman... with guns. [tornado fang] your [parasitic bomb], Chris Redfield.
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The internet shitstorm that will result from that will make the change from S.T.A.R.S to Oroboros Jill seem like a calm breeze. XD
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It's the only option, really. Marvel's approach in this game has been to push their new content. That's the main reason the likes of Deadpool, Taskmaster, MODOK, Thor and X-23 were brought in. I'm convinced Thor only made it in because he has a movie coming up.
Flash Thompson's Venom is the newest form of the character and he's getting his own comic series (creatively titled "Venom") next month. I've little doubt that if Venom gets green lighted, it's going to be that form just to help push sales of the new series.
At the very least, they'll be forced to give Venom a more unique move set.
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The new concept of Venom and how they are using the Venom Symbiote is really interesting though and has the potential for good stories. We'll see what develops from it. Josh & I discuss this in our podcast, The Curious League of Comic Book Geeks. (http://thecuriousleagueofcbgeeks.blogspot.com/) Well, we do in Episode 4, which should be up tomorrow sometime. I'm editing it now!
*shameless self promotion*
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Why must I always be cursed to love the obscure characters in a given company's repetoire? [slightly poking sarcasm] I mean, do people think a lawyer who points and shots objection is that much more interesting than an inter-canon traveling pirate (Ruby Heart), Capcom's own take on a super sayian/flaming gypsy woman (Wang Tang & Rouge), or shapeshifters, one of which turns into a [tornado fang]ing dragon?! (Ryu & Nina from Breath of Fire)[/slightly poking sarcasm]
The mind, it's boggled. XD
Lol, well, sort of. I mean by all logic, Phoenix is COMPLETELY out of his element in a fighting game. It would be extremely amusing to see what kind of moves he would have. better yet, what SPECIALS.
I will laugh SO hard if one of his specials actually is a lawsuit.
That would be hillarious.
*cue that Phoenix/She Hulk lawyer team up comic*
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One of his Hyper Combos would obviously be him shouting OBJECTION. It should be a counter-hyper, though.
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I recall when TVC was out an interview mentioned Phoenix was talked about, albeit jokingly, and the "OBJECTION!" speech bubble was a move, that hit on each syllable of the word.
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I recall when TVC was out an interview mentioned Phoenix was talked about, albeit jokingly, and the "OBJECTION!" speech bubble was a move, that hit on each syllable of the word.
Holy [parasitic bomb]. XD
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Wouldn't that cause trouble after translation? "OMG wright sux compared to naruhodo"
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Objection has one less syllable, so I'd say make the exclamation point the fourth hit.
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Or cut it up into 4.
Ob-je-cti-on. Graphically of course, not spoken oddly.
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After jumping back and forth between PS3 and 360 I've come to the conclusion that I need to buy another tournament stick. It blows the regular stick out of the water.
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You guys and your sticks. If only gaming were a more cost friendly hobby, then I could live it up a bit and spring for one myself. XD
For those with the PS3 version, how is the stock gamepad for the game? Comfy? Bothersome? Speak up!
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For those with the PS3 version, how is the stock gamepad for the game? Comfy? Bothersome? Speak up!
Personally, I love it. I am soooooooo much better with it.
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That's reassuring, all of my experiences with this game have been based around 360 pad shenanigans and let me tell you, [parasitic bomb] is waaaay too unfriendly, especially for someone who's just recently getting into fighers and inputs for said fighters.
On another note entirely, [tornado fang] you Shoryuken motion and all your variants. [tornado fang] you. XD
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The 360 DPad is just plain awful. I really can't do anything on it.
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Hey does anyone here use Zero? What the hell is his weakness? His melee attacks beat out mine every time, like he's doing some sort of horizontal Shoryuken. I can never take him down without losing a character or buttload of group HP.
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Stay at a distance and hit him with ranged attacks, just don't let him get near you and if he does, tag out and back up. If you see the chance, start an air combo. You have to hit him fast, before he can start a combo.
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Hey does anyone here use Zero? What the hell is his weakness? His melee attacks beat out mine every time, like he's doing some sort of horizontal Shoryuken. I can never take him down without losing a character or buttload of group HP.
Zero's saber range, multihits on each blow and priority really make him annoying to deal with at times. The best bits of advice I can honestly give you are that advancing guard (press any two attacks while blocking) is your best friend in those situations and to always be careful with assists.
What's your team look like though? I can't say much about offense without that bit of insight.
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I've been using Tron, Morrigan, and Arthur; for no particular strategic purpose or reason. Although I feel like Arthur is holding my whole team back.
So I guess I was right about Zero being a huge pain to fight head on? I try advancing guard all the time but he comes right back in my face as soon as I knock him back. His main combo pushes him forward, it's crazy.
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I've been using Tron, Morrigan, and Arthur; for no particular strategic purpose or reason. Although I feel like Arthur is holding my whole team back.
So I guess I was right about Zero being a huge pain to fight head on? I try advancing guard all the time but he comes right back in my face as soon as I knock him back. His main combo pushes him forward, it's crazy.
In terms of head on characters, there are few others I'd say give more trouble (Dante, Wolverine) but Zero's up there. With your team setup, I'd say shutting him down/cheesing him out before he closes the gap on you is the best idea. Chuck as much as you can with Arthur not for the sake of damaging, but more so to intercept. As maneuverable as Zero is, his movement directions are extremely one directional. Lock them down into a comfortable spot (the corner is good) then OD with Arthur spam and Tron's Flamethrower assist. Also, depending on how good you are. Morrigan is like Raid for Zero. Use lots of Soul Fist -> flight mode -> Soul Fist shenanigans to keep them locked down single handedly. You can also turn this into bullet hell mode with Astral Vision (and depending on the situation, X Factor) to make his maneuverability somewhat worthless while you rain things down on him.
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I have yet to properly learn Arthur, as I've been focusing most of my time on Spidey. But I'm not really good with him yet.
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It's all about projectiles w/ Arthur. I've yet to properly learn his close-combat combos to keep his ground steady, but mission mode has taught me a fair bit o' things.
I just have to wait for my next check to finally purchase MvC3.
And yes, PS3's D-pad is excellent~
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I have yet to properly learn Arthur, as I've been focusing most of my time on Spidey. But I'm not really good with him yet.
That's going to be the biggest thing keeping me from learning all of the characters in this game, I can feel it. Coming from the Smash side of things with universal special and normal attack inputs, I can already assume that this is going to be all about how much I see a character, how much they click with me, and how much time I can pour into making them viable. XD
Off the top of my head, there are probably 15 characters I'd like to try in no specific combinations excluding my big three -- Dante/Morrigan/Phoenix, and then there's any number of DLC characters coming down the pipeline. This game is gonna consume my soul.
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In terms of head on characters, there are few others I'd say give more trouble (Dante, Wolverine) but Zero's up there. With your team setup, I'd say shutting him down/cheesing him out before he closes the gap on you is the best idea. Chuck as much as you can with Arthur not for the sake of damaging, but more so to intercept. As maneuverable as Zero is, his movement directions are extremely one directional. Lock them down into a comfortable spot (the corner is good) then OD with Arthur spam and Tron's Flamethrower assist. Also, depending on how good you are. Morrigan is like Raid for Zero. Use lots of Soul Fist -> flight mode -> Soul Fist shenanigans to keep them locked down single handedly. You can also turn this into bullet hell mode with Astral Vision (and depending on the situation, X Factor) to make his maneuverability somewhat worthless while you rain things down on him.
That all helps, thanks.
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That's going to be the biggest thing keeping me from learning all of the characters in this game, I can feel it. Coming from the Smash side of things with universal special and normal attack inputs, I can already assume that this is going to be all about how much I see a character, how much they click with me, and how much time I can pour into making them viable. XD
It was the same with me and TatsuCap, and in this game as well.
You know, I've been debating which I like better, TatsuCap or MvC3, and even though I love my Marvel characters more than the Tatsu characters, I think I still prefer TatsuCap overall, mainly because I prefer 2 on 2 rather than 3 on 3.
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You want the final Capcom side vote? OF COURSE YOU DO!
1. *Mega Man - 3573 (Mostly Mega Man X, followed by Classic and then EXE)
2. Strider 2094
3. Phoenix Wright - 1579
4. Frank West - 1311
5. Gene - 1257
6. Vergil - 919
7. Captain commando - 784
8. Bison - 704
9. Jin Saotome - 677
10. Jon Talbain - 617
11. Bass.exe - 6010
12. Ken - 469
13. Leon Kennedy - 419
14. Cammy - 416
15. Juri - 382
16. Sigma - 379
17. Batsu - 318
18. Ryu (BoF) - 317
19. Falcon - 297
20. Guile - 291
21. B.B Hood - 285
22. Date Masamune - 280
23. Chuck Greene - 278
24. Jedah - 276
25. Hayato - 266
26. Red Arremer/Firebrand - 260
27. Samanosuke Akechi - 249
28. Nemesis - 241
29. Nero (DMC) - 212
30. Dr. Wily - 202
31. Sakura - 194
32. Protoman - 185
33. Roll - 185
34. Demitri - 175
35. Tessa - 160
36. Akira (Rival school) -154
37. Regina - 145
38. Ibuki - 132
39. Guy - 131
40. Lady - 128
41. Donovan - 124
42. Lord Raptor - 123
43. Poison - 120
44. Dan Hibiki - 117
45. Alex - 111
46. Vanessa Z. Schneider (P.N. 03) - 106
47. Vile - 103
48. Sagat -102
49. Vega - 99
50. Cody - 95
51. Fou Lu - 83
52. Kyosuke - 80
53. Nina - 79
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18. Ryu (BoF) - 317
21. B.B Hood - 285
26. Red Arremer/Firebrand - 260
35. Tessa - 160
53. Nina - 79
0v0
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I miss Cap's 2nd jump.
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Holy [parasitic bomb], no Power Stone characters made the top 53? Ryu (BoF) making top 20 was cool though. Bass.EXE should totally have made top 10. Finally, boo Jedah, Demitri & B.B. Hood deserved better. XD
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32. Protoman - 185
B(
BAHHHHH!
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Chris Redfield/Zero/Sentinel
Yes, I play Sentinel. -_-
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I just saw a Morrigan with mirror super vs Dark Phoenix match.
God DAMN, now that's a bullet hell in a fighter XD
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Holy [parasitic bomb], no Power Stone characters made the top 53? Ryu (BoF) making top 20 was cool though. Bass.EXE should totally have made top 10. Finally, boo Jedah, Demitri & B.B. Hood deserved better. XD
Falcon was on the list.
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Falcon was on the list.
Whoops, didn't catch that.
I just saw a Morrigan with mirror super vs Dark Phoenix match.
God DAMN, now that's a bullet hell in a fighter XD
I was (still am) watching that same stream! Seriously people, don't sleep on Morrigan, when she gets started guys will have a hard time keeping up. XD
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^Where can I see this match?
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http://www.justin.tv/optionselect#/w/891758960/3
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*in a trippy state*
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZ2nT5FPhbE&feature=player_embedded&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.capcom-unity.com%2Fgo%2Fnetwork%2Fblog%3Fpg%3D5&has_verified=1[/youtube]
A&C games is a store right by the corner of the street that leads to downtown Toronto, Chinatown...they always hold tournaments at the Uni of Toronto.
Damn, I WISH I saw this in person! O.O
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Okay i got the game today but MAN i suck at it =/ It's been ages since i last played a fighting game and my timing is WAY off for pretty much every combo out there.
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I just beat Very Hard mode by spamming one move as Sentinel (Crouching Heavy) and Dr. Doom's Hidden Rocket assist. Every round.
Funny stuff.
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That sounds a lot easier than trying to do it with Akuma, Ryu and Chun-li.
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I did it by spamming Medium Sentinel Force and Hyper Sentinel Force.
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I just beat Very Hard mode by spamming one move as Sentinel (Crouching Heavy) and Dr. Doom's Hidden Rocket assist. Every round.
Funny stuff.
I did it by spamming Medium Sentinel Force and Hyper Sentinel Force.
With these two posts, I want to ask a rhetorical question. Who in their right mind thought that Sentinel was ever a good idea? Seriously though, it would fit as a miniboss/boss or something, but giving that strength to actual people? What the hell made anyone think it was a good idea?
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There's plenty of counters to Sentinel though. Like another Sentinel.
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Or spamming fierce TK Shots with Phoenix, with a random teleport into combo here or there.
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With these two posts, I want to ask a rhetorical question. Who in their right mind thought that Sentinel was ever a good idea? Seriously though, it would fit as a miniboss/boss or something, but giving that strength to actual people? What the hell made anyone think it was a good idea?
People who thought that pleasing the fanbase with old mainstays being at or above the same level of effectiveness they were in MvC2. Honestly, I like the whole direction Capcom took with this game where instead of trying to make something new out of something that was pretty much dissected and perfected by the fan community, they opted to design everything around the way they saw the community make things work. Any character is viable against any character, but since we're in that new, hardly a month old, state with the game, Sent is gonna be overpowered and overused due to newb-friendliness.
Now X-Factor Lvl. 3 Sent? That [parasitic bomb] is boss battle tier.
There's plenty of counters to Sentinel though. Like another Sentinel.
XD
Beyond that though, there's a lot of options. The problem is getting them started before Sent literally slaps the [acid burst] out of you in 3 - 4 maneuvers (namely BOOT, Frying Pan, Rocket Punch, HYPER SODIUM SENTINEL FORCE). I've seen Wolverine, Dante, and hell even Felicia dismantle Sentinels pretty handily. Sentinel kryptonite however is looking to be either Phoenix/Dark Phoenix (but the latter is more like everyone's bottlecap in good hands) or Tron (who is being nicknamed Sentinel Jr. in some places).
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I'm not saying Sentinel is insta-win, but he has a weebit too many advantages. His health, reach, and strength are ridiculous when combined as they are. It's certainly doable to rip a Sentinel apart, sure, but that's assuming you can even get into batting range of the mofo.
Then again, I always thought that designing the game around MvC2's broken-ass system was a stupid idea. I will admit MvC3 is certainly more balanced than it's predecessor, but let's be honest here; That isn't that hard to do.
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I'm not saying Sentinel is insta-win, but he has a weebit too many advantages. His health, reach, and strength are ridiculous when combined as they are. It's certainly doable to rip a Sentinel apart, sure, but that's assuming you can even get into batting range of the mofo.
Oh, trust me I agree, even if my previous post made me sound all "everything is peachy". The fact that he has two moves with long super frames on top of that beastly reach/strength advantage speaks volumes to this being true. XD
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Honestly, the few times I've been against Sent my biggest problem was his assist more than himself. [tornado fang]ing drones...
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It's easy to kill a spam Sentinel.
Do a flashy 5 or less meter combo (I suggest Viewtiful Joe, Taskmaster and Iron Man) to kill Sentinel and his teamates are toast!
Here's one I did:
Light, Medium, Heavy, Mach Speed, Light, Medium, Heavy, Exchange/Special, Medium Red Hot Kick(the one without the flames), Six cannon, DHC into Iron Avenger.
Im pretty sure this combo will work
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Hsien-ko's pendulum assist with Dark Force activated is godlike.
That is all.
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I am totally going to be rocking some MvC3 in about ten minutes.
So, if you're looking to challenge Teh Divi, and you're on the 360, hit me up. Darth Seran. DO IT.
If you wanna play just shoot me an invite when I come online.
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Just want to take some time out to pimp a few excellent MvC3 streams:
www.justin.tv/teamspooky - Home of the most amazing tournaments I've seen in MvC3 so far (no Sentinels made top 4). Also the birthplace of Team Scooby Doo (Wesker as Fred/Phoenix as Daphne/Ameterasu as Scooby) and Team Zombie Night (Taskmaster as Skeletor/Morrigan as Lady Gaga/Hsien-Ko (or Lei Lei) as Chinese Zombie Ghost [sonic slicer]). As you can tell from that all, the stream was quite amazing tonight. XD
http://www.justin.tv/offcast#/w/899912848 - Stream going on now, coverage of Wednesday Night Fights on the West Coast (USA)
http://www.justin.tv/iplaywinner#/w/899827488 - Lots of MvC3 stuff and general fighting game streams here. Currently online.
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*in a trippy state*
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZ2nT5FPhbE&feature=player_embedded&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.capcom-unity.com%2Fgo%2Fnetwork%2Fblog%3Fpg%3D5&has_verified=1[/youtube]
A&C games is a store right by the corner of the street that leads to downtown Toronto, Chinatown...they always hold tournaments at the Uni of Toronto.
Damn, I WISH I saw this in person! O.O
Hahahaha, awesome.
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Well, having tried every (currently available) character out, I've started playing Chris/Spencer/Tron, and I'm enjoying (almost) every minute of it.
That said, I'm not finding the online very fun. Maybe it's just because I don't have many friends who play it, but the matchmaking keeps putting me up against people who are several ranks higher/Sentinel spammers/Dante, and I summarily get absolutely wrecked without managing to do anything. S'getting to the the point where if I'm a character or more down and their first guy hasn't lost ,uch health, I'll just put the pad down and go do something else for a bit.
Not fun. :-[
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Thanks how ranked matches work. You need to learn how to counter bullshit tactics.
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Hearing in person from my friends how much my Ammy annoys and gives them trouble makes me quite happy :D
Also, a combo for all Zero players.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_OiIyreMy8[/youtube]
It's not too hard actually, I can already do it reliably. Landing it is another story however, I need to improve at getting people to the corner.
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Isnt Zero's
Light, Medium, Heavy, Forward Heavy as loop as well?
You have to start it with Light, Medium, Heavy, Crouching Heavy, Forward Heavy though
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The only thing I hate about the online mode is that I can not select or limit the search to people with good connections.
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The only thing I hate about the online mode is that I can not select or limit the search to people who won't rage DC
fix'd
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fix'd
Rage DC? As in DC Comics? XD
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Yes, they rage for the lack of Batman xD
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I wonder when there´s going to be a Marvel vs DC game...
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I wonder when there´s going to be a Marvel vs DC game...
That would be freakin' sweet.
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Franklin Richards > DC Universe
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Yes, they rage for the lack of Batman xD
Well, he is Batman! XD
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The only thing I hate about the online mode is that I can not select or limit the search to people with good connections.
What I hate is that ANY search that includes the "any region" option outside of lobbies will never, EVER work until after dozens of times (or if you're in arcade mode until you reach Galactus), which is a damn shame since battles with people in my same area are somehow laggier than international/intercontinental ones. Well, that's the average Mexican internet connection to you =/
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I wonder when there´s going to be a Marvel vs DC game...
I seriously doubt it. I bet DC has sued Marvel a couple times.
Capcom and DC arent good friends....
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I'm up for some matches if anyone wants to play. Just send me a message.
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Ammy is turning out to be a hell of a monst... err goddess. She can deliver one hell of a beatdown. I must keep training with her. So far I am liking my Ammy, Ryu, and Cap team.
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Shuma-Gorath footage, watch it before the Capcom ninjas get to it first!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObXHErN5I74[/youtube]
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Can't say I'm much of a Shuma fan, but the sheer technical aspect of getting his 2D look and moves (with all that morphing) into such a faithful 3D representation is quite impressive. This goes double for Morrigan, but I think Shuma has much more of a 'transformation' aspect visually than her.
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Shuma Gorath's voice [tornado fang]ing sucks. When I hear him, I think he's some kind of lighthearted character. :\
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Solar, your Zero and Ammy upset me.
That Ryu win was cheap as hell, just so you know.
Other than that, I accept the fact that you're better than me.
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Hahaha, yeah, the damage that did surprised the hell out of me too, hence the message I sent after that.
I'm more surprised you're complaining about Zero instead of Hsien-ko and her assist. I'm guessing it was because of that one time I had XF and Sougenmu together isn't it? XD
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It was the slash slash into the bounce combo. The XF combined with the triple back, I'm used to 'cause my friend pulls that [parasitic bomb] on me all the time.
I like it, though. I can [twin slasher] all of my friends with just my X-23, but you decimated me. Makes me want to put Call of Duty down and start actually practicing.
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And I didn't even manage to land the loop I posted last page :P
Thanks, it's nice to be on the delivery end of the ass kicking after so many soul crushing and self-steem lowering defeats in KoF (which are my favorite games :() the past few months before MvC3 XD
Btw, I'll be online all night on mission mode in case anyone wants some matches.
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What system do you play on solar? I can add you and next time we are both on we can play. I'm nowhere as good as I was during my arcade days but if I can keep playing someone better then me then maybe I can get close to how I used to play.
Ninja_Lou PSN
Ninja Lou 53 XBLive
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Sent you an invite. My GT should be easily recognizeable =P
Also, haha, holy [parasitic bomb], Shuma's ending is hilarious XD
[spoiler]He becomes A QUIZ SHOW HOST, with a bowtie XD
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8s6XuKj4LM[/youtube][/spoiler]
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I tried putting on the headset, but I still can't hear anything you say =/ Is there a way to turn up the volume of that thing?
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Those were some great matches. I think I had the broken headset on next time I will use the other one.
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GGs.
Honestly, I felt kinda bad when I made curbstomping comebacks with Dark Phoenix, but then again the matches directly after that you were the one doing the curbstomping so I guess it evens out XD
After these matches I'm really liking Hsien-ko/Ammy/Zero and Hsien-ko/Chun/Phoenix, the bad part is that as you could see, if Hsien lost early in the match I was left pretty much without any pressure =/
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When I see that you picked her I try REALLY REALLY hard to kill her before she gets away. She is an awesome assist after you power her up. I have to find away around her. At first I though Cap was my weak link but after all those match I see that it is chun-li. I have some awesome combos with her but I couldn't stop with the lighting kicks and it was throwing me off completely. I also like how you switch up Ammy's weapons in combos. I usually stick to the disk because it just easier to combo with it.
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Well, when I switch weapons I'm pretty much trying to do this
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzn2qHK_jWg[/youtube]
But so far I haven't even been able to get to the launcher part in an actual match XD
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That is awesome. Looks like a pain in the ass to pull off though. I notice with combos like that I can do them in training but when it comes to an actually fight I can never land them. Then I just use the simple ones that work and do enough damage (good old Ryu and the air combo into super)
I notice my biggest weakness is that I don't use my assists enough. I just never been an assist person. I totally forget. Oh and doing the wrong super and getting raped for it..... I'm sure you remember some of those. 8D
Eitherway I had alot of fun tonight we really were at each others throats.
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Heh, wrong super happens to all of us XD
And yeah, speaking of being at each others throats, you so left after that match specificly because I was about to tie your number of wins 8D
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Oh no that wasn't the reason. I have to apply medication to my dogs eyes now. We found a tumor under her eyelid. =(
It's getting removed Monday but I have to make sure she gets her pain kills and stuff till then. Tomorrow after PB and I get back from a friends birthday dinner I will be on so you can try to take from me then. 8)
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Oh no that wasn't the reason. I have to apply medication to my dogs eyes now. We found a tumor under her eyelid. =(
:(
Tomorrow after PB and I get back from a friends birthday dinner I will be on so you can try to take from me then. 8)
I think tomorrow I'll be pretty busy, but we'll see.
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I notice my biggest weakness is that I don't use my assists enough. I just never been an assist person.
Ask Solar about my cheap ass Dante assist lololololololol.
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Oh yeah, that was quite annoying...it was sweet killing it with a lv3 XF Shinku Hadoken 8D
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Sorry if mentioned before, but the second round of the MvC3 DLC votes have begun
This time you vote 3 out of the top 25 (http://www.capcom-unity.com/marvelvscapcom/go/thread/view/102977/27076341/DLC_Polls_Round_2_%28Please_see_update%29)
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Sorry if mentioned before, but the second round of the MvC3 DLC votes have begun
This time you vote 3 out of the top 25 (http://www.capcom-unity.com/marvelvscapcom/go/thread/view/102977/27076341/DLC_Polls_Round_2_%28Please_see_update%29)
Well, locked in my votes. I basically went with 1 old character and 2 new ones for each poll.
Marvel:
Gambit
Dr. Strange
Nightcrawler
Capcom:
Strider
X
Ryu (BoF)
Too bad I know that some of my choices probably have no chance (Dr. Strange :()
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Well i voted Dr.Strange as well, but yeah that ain't going anywhere.
Dr.Strange, Gambit and Carnage were my votes for Marvel and Strider, Gene and Edward Falc-*looks at votes for Falcon and weeps uncontrollably*
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Cast my votes...
Marvel:
Carnage
Venom
Nightcrawler
Capcom:
Mega Man X
Sigma
Bass.EXE
We need more Mega Man villains or X in general and I really want Carnage to appear in MvC3 as a DLC! I love that insane guy!
Also is there anyone on with the PS3? I wouldn't mind having a few quick sparring matches to see how good I've gotten and I would like a good friendly match... I just hate fighting against pros in Player Matches most of the time (though I've come close to beating them it's just that misjudge or mistime the hitbox between my character and my opponent).
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Carnage
Gambit
Nightcrawler
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Cammy
Juri
Mega Man X
Aw man. Statistics say Carnage, Cammy and Juri ain't gettin' in.
And I don't understand why everyone keeps voting for Phoenix Wright. Dude does not fit in a fighting game, at all.
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That may be the reason.
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Here's some more Zero combos
[youtube]cmpmKk29GaQ[/youtube]
Some of those are crazy!
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Marvel:
Cyclops
Venom
Gambit
Capcom:
Mega Man Classic
Sigma
Bass.EXE
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Mahvel
Dr. Strange
Green Goblin
Ms. Marvel
Capcom
Mega Man X
Strider
Vergil
Limiting us to three votes killed me on the inside. I wanted to add a tally to Bass.EXE, Jon Talbain, Jin Saotome, Gene (Godhand), & BoF Ryu but wound up juggling through hoping the internet would give these guys some points, but then Phoenix came along and not only ate the votes, but actually managed to bump Strider to 3rd (WTF).
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You can throw out all the Phoenix Wright votes. It will never happen, you chucklefucks. Capcom is strongly against it internally.
I voted:
Marvel
-Venom (FLASH! Ahaaaaaa! Savior of the Universe!)
-Gambit
-Psylocke
Capcom
-Mega Man X
-Vergil
-Gene
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The devs were also strongly against Rock/X, as I recall. The poll isn't official, so to hell with Capcom's internal desires. It's full and sole purpose is to show fan-demand, whether or not they act on it is their own business.
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Even if this was an official vote the Marvel vote might not work like the Capcom one. Even with the votes Marvel still has to give the OK for them to use the characters and Marvel had already stopped some characters from being in the game. I don't understand why people want Venom to be in it so badly. I mean I liked Eddie Brock Venom, but that version doesn't even exist anymore. If they do throw Venom in though I hope they throw in the new version. The Flash Thompson Venom, he looks cool.
(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/1220/00venom4.jpg)
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Marvel
Dr. Strange
Nightcrawler
Squirrel Girl
vs.
Capcom
Falcon
Mega Man X
Strider
There were many other Capcom's I could've voted for, but I REAAAAAAAAAALLY want Power Stone to get some recognition.
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I liked Eddie Brock Venom, but that version doesn't even exist anymore.
The Captain America in the game doesnt exist anymore. I dont see why they cant do the same for Venom
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The Captain America in the game doesnt exist anymore. I dont see why they cant do the same for Venom
They are going to "fix" that with the first update and he will get the "Top Cop" Uniform. Also don't forget this game has been in the works for awhile now (since 08). Rodgers "died" in late 08 and when he came back he took up the mantle again to beat Norman. Which took place in 2010. So technically he was still considered Captain America when they were making the game.
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Or perhaps due to the upcoming movie? I assume it will be an origins story like Iron Man. No sense in confusing and alienating the common movie goer.
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Too late. There's a win quote referring to Iron Man as Tony Stark's bodyguard iirc.
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I just want to say, [tornado fang] Doom's mission 9, even with X-factor to make the first part easier (which still murders my fingers anyways x___x) it's a freaking pain in the ass.
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RamzalTimble for Xbox live on this. Bring it I say!
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I really do want to fight you sir, but it's like 2AM and I'm way too lazy to turn on my 360 and swap discs.
Feel free to add me though, and we can possibly fight some time tomorrow. My Gamertag is Darth Seran.
Edit: I still need to fight Ninja Lou, too.
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I really dislike those mission combos. They just seem too convoluted for their own good... the later ones anyway. I get what they're trying to teach you in trying to control the character to make your own moves, but good lord.
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The ones for Spider-Man are [tornado fang]ing nuts.
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I tend to jump on at random times. Just send me an invite if you see me on and if I am playing MvsC3
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Also is there anyone on with the PS3? I wouldn't mind having a few quick sparring matches to see how good I've gotten and I would like a good friendly match... I just hate fighting against pros in Player Matches most of the time (though I've come close to beating them it's just that misjudge or mistime the hitbox between my character and my opponent).
I am, although i don't think i can give you much of a challenge, as long as you don't mind a friendly match it'll be okay with me.
My PSN is AccelShift
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The ones for Spider-Man are [tornado fang]ing nuts.
I was stuck on mission 7 with him for a while. The Web Swing at the end would just not come out. But eventually I was able to get it, then 8 and 9 as well, which gave me the 320 missions achievement. 8 and 9 weren't as bad as 7. So now I have at least 7 done with everyone except Joe.
The missions in this game are not bad on the whole. There are some tricky ones, but they can all be done with a little effort. I mean, they're certainly easier than the missions in SSFIV and BBCS.
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I was stuck on mission 7 with him for a while. The Web Swing at the end would just not come out. But eventually I was able to get it, then 8 and 9 as well, which gave me the 320 missions achievement. 8 and 9 weren't as bad as 7. So now I have at least 7 done with everyone except Joe.
It could also be that I can't play with the 360 Pad to begin with.
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Definitely. Although if I'm honest, I certainly feel I could've had an easier time doing Doom's 9 on pad, hitting L and A2 at the same time is just not comfortable x____x
Also, if the combo doesn't require X-factor, try activating it before the combo, it might make it easier (Chun's 10, Doom's 9, etc.)
The missions in this game are not bad on the whole. There are some tricky ones, but they can all be done with a little effort. I mean, they're certainly easier than the missions in SSFIV and BBCS.
Much, much easier. In SSFIV and BBCS my execution and the difficulty of the combos prevents me from ever finishing them, in Marvel the only thing between me and a complete set of missions is a few hours.
Oh, and DLC is coming on March 1st, Shadow mode for free and the first set of costumes for 400msp/$5.
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Oh, and DLC is coming on March 1st, Shadow mode for free and the first set of costumes for 400msp/$5.
Figured as much, considering my game updated today and was looking to see if I had any DLC.
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So for all you people bitching and complaining about how hard the game is to play with the shitty Xbox controller; Go buy the new one that comes with the play and charge kit. After getting it, I've realized the problem wasn't with my timing and whatnot, it was the shitty joystick and D-Pad on the original controllers.
After getting the new one, every single person I regularly play with instantly saw a vast improvement. So did I, for that matter.
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So for all you people bitching and complaining about how hard the game is to play with the shitty Xbox controller; Go buy the new one that comes with the play and charge kit. After getting it, I've realized the problem wasn't with my timing and whatnot, it was the shitty joystick and D-Pad on the original controllers.
After getting the new one, every single person I regularly play with instantly saw a vast improvement. So did I, for that matter.
Glad to hear there's a controller out there that works well.
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So for all you people bitching and complaining about how hard the game is to play with the shitty Xbox controller; Go buy the new one that comes with the play and charge kit. After getting it, I've realized the problem wasn't with my timing and whatnot, it was the shitty joystick and D-Pad on the original controllers.
After getting the new one, every single person I regularly play with instantly saw a vast improvement. So did I, for that matter.
I know of this new controller. I also know that it's freaking $50-$60 for me to just play one game better, since I have no problem with the 360 Controller for other games, nor do I have an issue with the PS3 controller.
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It's an overall improvement to the previous design. All games are easier to play as the joystick is not a fickle [sonic slicer] on this one. Besides, it comes with a play and charge kit which means you don't need to worry about batteries.
For the people who were intent on buying a hundred dollar fight stick just to play Marvel vs Capcom with though, this is a cheaper and more awesome solution.
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And you can trade in your old controller and pay even less.
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It's still paying for a new controller for one game when the previous controller works perfectly fine for every other game.
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The devs were also strongly against Rock/X, as I recall. The poll isn't official, so to hell with Capcom's internal desires. It's full and sole purpose is to show fan-demand, whether or not they act on it is their own business.
IIRC the producer recently came out (I think it was at the launch party) and said that if they get another character going, X is up there since he hasn't gotten a versus debut as yet and something about him offering a lot to the game.
But yeah, the poll is mostly for fun at this point. I still say that everyone should do their best and hopefully all out collective noise for characters gets heard.
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Well, Viper's missions were surprisingly easy for being, well, Viper.
Now I only have Storm and Mags left, also Hsien-ko's 10 and Cap's 9 and 10.
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It's still paying for a new controller for one game when the previous controller works perfectly fine for every other game.
And if you have to pay at least $30 to switch the game?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYXf55iwjjc
Go to 27s. Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn .____.
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And if you have to pay at least $30 to switch the game?
I was getting the PS3 version anyway. I had no plans to ever get a new 360 controller.
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I was actually wondering about that. Who do you have to play on the ps3 version?
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From what I've seen, a few RPMers have the PS3 version. Fxeni has it, as well as Cephi. And so do you and most of your GameStop crew I believe! 8D
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Really? Cephi has the PS3 version as well? I haven't seen her on yet, then again I am busy with schoolwork most of the time and I have work at night so it's rare I get on my PS3 to see who's on.
I do feel like having a match with someone for a few minutes.
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From what I've seen, a few RPMers have the PS3 version. Fxeni has it, as well as Cephi. And so do you and most of your GameStop crew I believe! 8D
Ok I just want to make sure you grab the right one and get the most for your money.
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Ok I just want to make sure you grab the right one and get the most for your money.
Yeah. I'll just play Josh when I go over to his place. LoL, lets be honest, the result will ALWAYS be the same anyway, no matter what D-Pad I have.
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Yeah. I'll just play Josh when I go over to his place. LoL, lets be honest, the result will ALWAYS be the same anyway, no matter what D-Pad I have.
Yeah, but at least if you have one that functions, you'll have some glimmer of hope.
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I will explain why the new controller is better. Of course by I, I mean this very lovely Youtube video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47FYA54tMzo
Skip to about a minute 5. The controller is better because it can do that, so much easier to put in commands.
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Yeah, but at least if you have one that functions, you'll have some glimmer of hope.
....LoL, I don't think you understand how good Josh is at fighting games. Mind you, the only reason I have some glimmer of hope is because he's not use to the more "so people like PB can play" controls and that Haggar is "the worst throw character ever." In pretty much every other fighting game, he could take on the Evo people, and I think win.
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It is taking me some time to adjust to this game. I think my fingers glide across the arcade stick to quickly ( training mode help me notice this). I need to learn to slowdown. Anyway I think I finally figured out who my strongest Characters are. Those being
Ryu
Cap (when I remember not to try to double jump)
Ammy
Zero
I have a ton of characters I need to start working on. Training mode only gets me so far. For example I used to be super dangerous with Chun-Li in MvsC1 and when I play arcade on hard or I am in training mode I can tear it up. The second I go online though I can not control her damn lightning kicks. Even though any other time they are not a problem. I think when I start playing people on my friends list I am just going to stick to my B-list. I really don't care to much about my percentage for now, at least it will give me the chance to get better with these characters in ways training mode can not help.
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I'll try and be of some help Lou, although I'm not all that good to be honest.
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(http://i53.tinypic.com/35ja5ts.jpg)
8D
Also, for those of us who like to wear our nerdoms:
Curly (http://www.brokentier.com/collections/ifc-yipes-collection/products/curly)
Mango (http://www.brokentier.com/collections/ifc-yipes-collection/products/mango)
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Also, for those of us who like to wear our nerdoms:
Curly (http://www.brokentier.com/collections/ifc-yipes-collection/products/curly)
Mango (http://www.brokentier.com/collections/ifc-yipes-collection/products/mango)
Ahhhhhhhhh nerds! 8)
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(http://i53.tinypic.com/35ja5ts.jpg)
8D
Also, for those of us who like to wear our nerdoms:
Curly (http://www.brokentier.com/collections/ifc-yipes-collection/products/curly)
Mango (http://www.brokentier.com/collections/ifc-yipes-collection/products/mango)
I posted the video last page, but nobody said anything D: It's more hilarious in gif form for some reason though XD
Even if Sentinel did a [tornado fang]ing ton of damage, all of that wouldn't have been possible without Haggar, Mayor of Earth 8D
Also, those shirts are awesome XD It's really missing a scoops one though =/
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Sorry Tai, I just thought that no one had spread the love with the HYPE matches recently played in MvC3 but I stand corrected. As for the scoops thing, I totally agree, but at the same time, here's hoping the line gets expanded over time. I'm really liking the way Curly came out though, Mango needed a lighter/near royal Blue.
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So I have a question:
If X does indeed make it into the game, what theme would you use for him in McV3?
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So I have a question:
If X does indeed make it into the game, what theme would you use for him in McV3?
Capcom will probably pick Centraol Highway from X1
I would pick Sky Lagoon or Eurasia: Broken Highway
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So I have a question:
If X does indeed make it into the game, what theme would you use for him in McV3?
An awesome mixture of Broken Highway into Sky Lagoon would be best. I'd also love to hear a reworking of Fight X! from Command Mission but I don't think a lot of people would care for that.
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First stage of MMX would be the obvious choice. But then again, they didn't pick the obvious choice for Zero. So who knows what they'll pick. Me, I'd go with the X8 boss theme.
And if Sigma somehow makes it, he needs his final boss theme from X6. They don't even need to remix it. It's perfect as is.
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A little too hardcore for MvC perhaps.
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-X1 Opening Stage would be a great choice, but who knows if they'd use it.
-I don't think X2's opening stage would work well with MvC3
-X3's Opening Stage would be interesting and I really like this, but I doubt they'd go this route.
-Even though I'm not the hugest fan of Sky Lagoon in X4, I think a MvC3 Remix of it would actually work well for the game
Those would be my choices. Also, I agree with Sato that the X8 boss theme would work really well.
Lastly, if X & Zero are opposing one another, then X vs. Zero from X5 should play instead of either X or Zero's theme.
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Man, it feels so good to see all those squares filled in mission mode ^_^
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Ready and willing to play anyone on Xboxlive. :D
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Whee~ Tomorrow, I'll be facing off against Magnus. Not that it's very important >.>
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Having trashed six Sentinel users in a row, I feel good. Man does Spider-man drink Sentinel tears.
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Today I fought my first REALLY annoying Sentinel spammer, almost got him but he killed my 4 games winning streak and prevented me from getting the achievement =/
Funny thing is, it was the same guy I had curbstomped 4 times in a row already, so knowing that I beat him so bad he had to go to Sentinel does make me feel better XD
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I have a new team. :O
Morrigan, Wolverine, and Ryu. I am raping face with this combination.
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I have a new team. :O
Morrigan, Wolverine, and Ryu. I am raping face with this combination.
I send you a friend invinte and I regret it right after seeing this. XD I have no end of trouble from those three.
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Dante and X23 were just not doing it?
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I really only used Dante for his assist, and X-23 is fun but ... Morrigan...
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You three should form a room with Lou. He needs some training for the MvC3 tournament at PAX East next weekend!
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Would if it wasn't exams time =/
Maybe Friday night, maybe.
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I can invite him once things calm down in the party I'm in right now. There's four of us and I don't want him to have to sit in the lobby waiting.
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I can invite him once things calm down in the party I'm in right now. There's four of us and I don't want him to have to sit in the lobby waiting.
Well he's not on now anyway, but yeah, try to kick his ass!
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I'm good for whenever.
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BTW, Hope you're representing our Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man well, Ramzal! XD
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You know it. XD I play'em cause I love'em. But beside that, his winning quotes are hilarious to me. *Spidey knocks the Hulk down* <Spider-man> Say cheese! *picture*
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I love him too. I'm so happy they got the Spectacular Spider-Man voice to voice him, cause he does such a good job as him. Plus, he's been vastly VASTLY improved I think from his previous games.
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Max-spidey got nerfed a bit, but can chain like no tomorrow.
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Max-spidey got nerfed a bit, but can chain like no tomorrow.
It's been nerfed since Marvel Super Heroes, IMO. But at least now it combos in so much better.
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As a fighting newbie, I must tell you all now that this [parasitic bomb] is soooo disorienting at times. I got a chance to sit down with some mission modes and play around with characters, and geez, I feel lame as [tornado fang] when I can't do anything further than the level 3 missions on most characters. The crazy part? The inputs themselves are simple as [tornado fang] for me to nail near consistently. Man, I wish if I had gotten into fighters earlier in life. XD
[tornado fang] Dante's Killerbee -> Jam Session though, I swear I thought I was getting it until I found out I was doing Reverb Shock the whole time.
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I love him too. I'm so happy they got the Spectacular Spider-Man voice to voice him, cause he does such a good job as him. Plus, he's been vastly VASTLY improved I think from his previous games.
I can't speak for MvC3 as I've never played it, but he was pretty legit in MvC1 (and MSH IIRC). I just know that he's much less forgiving on input, as you've gotta mash the inputs for his air combos a lot faster than anyone else's. The evil part is that you don't know which direction he's going to land on and you end up eating a second one. Rinse, repeat.
I kinda miss MSHvSF's Armored Spidey, actually.
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Maximum Spider is so much better because it doesn't leave you sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo wide open if you miss or if they block.
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Wolverine is very spam-tastic. As are Dante, Zero, and Deadpool.
So far, however, my best character is Taskmaster. Though, I gotta actually get the game before I can formulate my dream team.
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It's been since forever since I"ve posted, but just wanted to say if anyone wants some matches in hit me up on PSN = FDKArtist.
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I don't know if someone has posted this yet or mentioned it but I just figured out a sick corner combo with Morrigan. Actually now that I think of it i hope it isn't a mission. Anyway I start it by dashing in with S, then comboing in ducking L,M,H,S, go into the air and hit L,M,H, followed but a Shadow blade (M) canceled into Finishing shower, doing another Shadow Blade (M) into Darkness illusion.
I sometimes hit them with an M before doing the second Shadow blade, but I occasionally miss though so I just skip that step and go into another Shadow blade. If you don't have the lvls you can ended it with another finishing shower or after the first finishing shower you can just go for the team aerial.
I really hope thats not a mission =p
Oh and I can get it to be 69 hits with I think is perfect for Morrigan. owob
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If people are in the corner and I'm playing Morrigan, I usually just crouching L-M-F-Standing Light-Jump-Air Forward Fierce-Repeat. I feel like a cheap [sonic slicer] when I do it, though.
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That kinda works with Ammy too. After the fierce in the air I follow with a fierce Head Charge with combos into his super. Its tricky landing the charge though, and its the only one that will make them bounce so that the super will connect.
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Here's the simple fact, once you get your opponent in the corner, every character, even the Hulk, who is the slowest character I've played as, can be spam-tacular.
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If you're in the corner you're pretty much [tornado fang]'d, plain and simple.
Posted on: March 04, 2011, 03:30:13 PM
Holy [parasitic bomb] a combo that's literally a minute and a half long that's not even an infinite XD
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsYe0aHnQaY[/youtube]
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Getting sick of seeing Amaterasu and Akuma teams online. Just got five of them back to back. Geez, playing -only- to win seems to be high priority. Reminds me of something...but what... Oh yeah! NO ITEMS! FOX ONLY! FINAL DESTINATION!
Edit: But they both have glass jaws. So I guess it's not that bad. Zero/X-23/Spidey ahoy!
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Yeah...no.
Anyways, if anyone is up for some matches I'll be online.
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Better then going "I can't win...Hmmmm.. I know! SENTINEL!" :D Anyways, I'm on. Willing to have a go at people.
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I'll sent you a friend request though. Just a warning though, I've mained Ammy since day one XD
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Fair enough. :P Accepted.
Edit: Solar, I asked if you can feed Ammy some chocolate please. :D That and you assit like a demon. >_> I should start assiting, really.
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Well, ggs. Man Dark Phoenix is so freaking broken XD
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Good games to you too sir. And yes, Dark Phoenix is indeed broken to no hell. XD You if only you heard what I was saying. <Jean> I CAN'T CONTROL IT! <Me> No lube I see. I can take it like a man! *End of match* OH GOD! XD
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Haha, yeah, dunno why it's so hard to hear people over the mic at times, at least I could kinda understand you at times, unlike Lou.
Oh, and that match with MODOK was so obviously only because I saw you use Cap, but his cubes sure gave you some trouble XD
EDIT: Huh? That's odd, I don't have the Spidey VS Taskmaster achievement despite having kicked a friend's Task's ass with my team that had Spidey in it.
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Online trophies behave weird. They take a long time to unlock.
I've come to grow very fond of Incredible Hulk. I humiliated a Chris spammer earlier today.
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I'll sent you a friend request though. Just a warning though, I've mained Ammy since day one XD
We had some good Ammy vs Ammy matches.
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Online trophies behave weird. They take a long time to unlock.
I've come to grow very fond of Incredible Hulk. I humiliated a Chris spammer earlier today.
This post reminded me that I have to try making a Team Justice Friends (Captain America as Major Glory/Hulk as The Infraggable Crunk/Thor as Val Halen) work.
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Why do I keep missing out on all this awesomness?
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http://twitpic.com/467c9j
People are getting better at making fake screenshots....
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That's easy to do. Really easy to do. On top of that, you don't actually see either character.
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Actually Strider's there, but he just looks even faker if you ask me.
Still, I'd be lying if I said I don't want what that pic shows to be true.
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SIGH. 15 failed attempts to join a ranked match session in a row. This is frustrating as all hell, and when I do Custom instead of Quick it just searches forever.
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I'd accept Frank West if it meant that Strider was on the way as well :p
And i've pretty much given up on ranked matches now, i always find people who main X-23 or Wolverine and it does nothing short of enrage me, any other character i can find a way to land a decent combo on given a chance but people who use X-23 are all over the place and it's so damn annoying >_<
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http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2011/mar/06/mvc3s-producer-talks-characters-possible-sequel/#comments
Niitsuma said in a recent interview that he wanted Gambit and Venom.
"He'd also like to put an additional character from the Mega Man series."
BASS EXE, MY HOPES AND DREAMS
[spoiler]Thank god we have DLC[/spoiler]
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I would honestly read that as an X confirmation given his comments on launch day about him being the first MM character he considered "next in line" after fan demand and his own opinions on it. Besides that though, I'd totally be down for some Bass.EXE as long as he has an Earth Break super, [tornado fang] all that other noise. XD
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This post reminded me that I have to try making a Team Justice Friends (Captain America as Major Glory/Hulk as The Infraggable Crunk/Thor as Val Halen) work.
Thor? Really? You got some balls, dude. If that doesn't work out, I think Dante would fit better as Val Halen if only cause he has a guitar.
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Where's the competitive games at people? Offline sessions are always grandioso but I wanne see RPM's finest. Doesn't matter if starting or whatnot. It's all in good fun. :D
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Well, you could challenge Lou I guess. I'd offer you some competition but I don't have a PS3.
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I hear most of the competition is on Xbox Live sadly..... :( Well, for me it is anyways since I lack one. :/
Though I do own 1 360 game and well once I"m able to aquire or borrow one I"ll finally be able to play it.
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We all saw it coming.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfP-oULmEEI&feature=feedf[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL3M62qsgcc&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL[/youtube]
Shuma is going on my team of Chris Redfield/Zero/Shuma Gorath.
Jill Valentine looks so...so....Bland.... -_-
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I got my PS3 copy today! Hurray! XD
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Jill Valentine looks so...so....Bland.... -_-
It would be cool if the RE1 and/or RE3 outfits was available. ^^
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(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/067/f/e/meowvel_vs_catcom_3_by_suzuran-d3b6we9.jpg)
Cat-tastic! (http://suzuran.deviantart.com/art/Meowvel-vs-Catcom-3-200196225)
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0v0 nya nya~ <3 *snuggle all of them*
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I knew you'd love it, sweetness! 8)
Zero Kitty is so adorable!
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KITTIES! :D
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5Jg6cfpQiw[/youtube]
...*gets an evil sadistic grin on his face*
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Oh [tornado fang] you and that damn dog.
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We all saw it coming.
Shuma is going on my team of Chris Redfield/Zero/Shuma Gorath.
Jill Valentine looks so...so....Bland.... -_-
I'm confused about what "we all saw coming." Of course we saw Shuma and Jill coming, they were announced before the game even came out. o.O
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I'm confused about what "we all saw coming." Of course we saw Shuma and Jill coming, they were announced before the game even came out. o.O
I meant, "We all saw the trailers coming soon"
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RPM, you all seriously need to start watching live streams of Marvel tournaments. Holy crap, this weekend has been non-stop HYPE and beyond godly gameplay. If you don't believe me, check out this clip:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqKlK8-4glw[/youtube]
Mother. [tornado fang]ing. SPENCER.
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Daww, you beat me to it (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mSbHE5iHUQ&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL). That was an odd mix of awesomeness and comedy.
"Bionic AAAAAAARRRRRMMM!"
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More like BIONIC AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!
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Daww, you beat me to it (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mSbHE5iHUQ&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL). That was an odd mix of awesomeness and comedy.
"Bionic AAAAAAARRRRRMMM!"
I just can't wait for a full video of that match, all of the J. Wong vs. ComboFiend matches (that first round when Wong started up a Tron X-Factor Lvl. 3 Hyper that almost caught Spencer dead on before getting out-prioritized by Bionic Arm was too [tornado fang]ing godlike, then the complete inverse of that happens in the last round against CF's Spencer; people were [tornado fang]ing chanting and shivering thinking he was out only to survive by magic pixel health), and Marn blowing people up with Zero in the bracket matches. Final Round was waaaay too awesome and this is coming from someone who thought Winter Brawl was incredible. XD
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RPM, you all seriously need to start watching live streams of Marvel tournaments. Holy crap, this weekend has been non-stop HYPE and beyond godly gameplay. If you don't believe me, check out this clip:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqKlK8-4glw[/youtube]
Mother. [tornado fang]ing. SPENCER.
Before it loads, it's Marn vs Combofiend right? Bionic AAAAAAAAAAARM is the new [chameleon sting]ing Falcon Punch (also the new "I'm a member of STARS in a way since pretty much everything he says has to do with his bionic arm XD).
Jelly, what do you say that you and me dedicate ourselves to informing RPM of any awesome streams?
Oh, and I love how team JWong Saves the Day was exactly what it said during the teams tournament (and that they won SF4 with said JWong being absent) XD
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I actually tried to do something like that before when I posted a bunch of links in here for regular check ups on tourneys being streamed. I dropped the ball though since I didn't regularly poke my head in and say to watch "X" stream while it was in progress. Usually I'm too hype to do much crossposting. Marvel at high level is stupidly good entertainment. XD
Also, yeah I loved the Wong team name way more than I should because of that. Also, Yipes is the best commentary for this game. Equal parts "colorful" and tasteful with the ability to know when one is needed more than the other. Also, JEEEEEEEEEEAN!
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Reebok Classics, man.
I was thinking everyone was just glued to the action like I was to post anywhere else. Maybe I could've mentioned something during Tekken cause I just don't follow that, but oh well.
My favorite part was the SSFIV finals where you actually see the distress on Tokido's face. He ends up losing, feels pretty salty I'm sure, and then has to rush over to the other side of the room and play BlazBlue.
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Speaking of SSFIV, man I was so sad that WolfKrone choked like that. His C.Viper in Winter Brawl was the hypest [parasitic bomb] ever.
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I actually missed most of the SSFIV finals cause BBCS was on the secondary stream. But yeah, Wolfkrone's Viper was really good.
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RPM, you all seriously need to start watching live streams of Marvel tournaments.
LoL, but I was watching one LIVE this weekend. 8D
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No Capcom, Mexico-Brazil SHOULD NOT count as same region. If I'm gonna keep matching me with Brazilians at least let them be 1st lord or something so that I could the damn achievement already -___-
Seriously, this game's match making needs to be [tornado fang]ing patched. A lot.
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The most apt description I've ever heard for the game (and relevant in this case) is that it's a [parasitic bomb] covered diamond. All the extra features as they game was shipped needed anywhere from a little to quite a bit of work, but the actual fighting engine, characters, interactions and the like are beyond godlike. Honestly, I feel like it's a repeat Brawl situation. The game needed that extra two months for perfection with all its feature sets, but as it is now, it's so much fun that "who really gives a [tornado fang]"-itis sets in after a few good matches. XD
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Pretty much. You know, it's hilarious how I'm getting MUCH better matches setting the area to any. Mexico-Mexico/USA? Much better. Seriously WTF Capcom.
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Got the special edition? Input the code now to gain early access to Jill and Shuma. Both come with mission mode missions too.
Jill... nothing too special, except her machine gun super absolutely RAPES Galactus.
Shuma's really fun, though. He zips across the field and has plenty of attacking options at his disposal. Expect to see him online more.
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Well, at least it looks like the machine gun super is useful for SOMETHING then, as useless as that may be.
*sigh* I don't want to buy unlock keys, but I want those characters and I missed the SE >___<
Also, god damn it this shouldn't be so amusing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSnM8DMTR48
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*sigh* I don't want to buy unlock keys, but I want those characters and I missed the SE >___<
Also, god damn it this shouldn't be so amusing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSnM8DMTR48
Preach. Meanwhile, how did I know this video was going to show up sooner or later here. XD
Loved the ending.
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Shuma is far too easy to use. :(
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Preach. Meanwhile, how did I know this video was going to show up sooner or later here. XD
Loved the ending.
Because this is RPM? XD
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Not all their content was on the disc, actually. You're paying for their fourth color, I know that for sure. I don't remember hearing about their missions before, either.
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Jill's mission 10 has definitely got to be one of if not the hardest of the missions x___x
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Damn FuRinKaZan.
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If I'm gonna suffer because of it she should at least have the decency of playing an awesome theme song during it >=(
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So opinions on Jill?
Her level one supers combo in easy enough, but whats the point of the lvl 3. I can't seem to figure it out. I just end up moving all over the place.
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Go to her Mission 10 and see what it's all about.
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So opinions on Jill?
Her level one supers combo in easy enough, but whats the point of the lvl 3. I can't seem to figure it out. I just end up moving all over the place.
[tornado fang]ing crazy mixups that when/if someone manages to master it it's gonna [tornado fang] you up badly.
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Jiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiillllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll~ 0v0
That is all
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So opinions on Jill?
Her level one supers combo in easy enough, but whats the point of the lvl 3. I can't seem to figure it out. I just end up moving all over the place.
It's so you can move super faster, you jus gotta let go of the dpad to attack. I really really love that's she's so fast ^^
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Aww, my first hatemail :D
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It's so you can move super faster, you jus gotta let go of the dpad to attack. I really really love that's she's so fast ^^
Her normals feel really sluggish though. For what seems to be a speedy character, I dunno, she doesn't feel right.
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Really? I can string everything together perfectly and fluidly without even really trying, she seems to be the fastest character in the game for me o.o
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Really? I can string everything together perfectly and fluidly without even really trying, she seems to be the fastest character in the game for me o.o
We still have to play together!
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I have only found one good use for Jill: making Galactus her [sonic slicer]. Her machine gun super just eats his lifebar. Otherwise, I don't particularly care for her. She'll be useful for the Hard Mode titles, though.
I've more settled for my team of Wesker, Zero and Spencer. I think it's a fairly balanced team and, set up right, the assists help out each character get some sick damage going.
As for Shuma, I managed to get all but his tenth mission done.
Also, since it was mentioned earlier:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHdLk5v5-OE[/youtube]
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Haha, I still have to play you as well, Sentinel Taskmaster MODOK!
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I have only found one good use for Jill: making Galactus her [sonic slicer]. Her machine gun super just eats his lifebar. Otherwise, I don't particularly care for her. She'll be useful for the Hard Mode titles, though.
I've more settled for my team of Wesker, Zero and Spencer. I think it's a fairly balanced team and, set up right, the assists help out each character get some sick damage going.
As for Shuma, I managed to get all but his tenth mission done.
Also, since it was mentioned earlier:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHdLk5v5-OE[/youtube]
Jill definitely has potential though, it's gonna be crazy what some people will be able to do with her when they get more practice with her.
Shuma's 10 isn't that bad hardest part is the Mystic Stare->cM->cH, but it's still not too hard.
Jill's 10 is a [tornado fang]ing nightmare however, can't get that damn loop right when I need it (oddly enough, I can only do it with a pad, I can't do it without dashing every time on my stick) >__>
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Haha, I still have to play you as well, Sentinel Taskmaster MODOK!
I'd call for an RPM game night, but with a lot of people in that room, [parasitic bomb] will get dull without spectating. I hope they can manage to get that in.
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We could have an RPM mini tourney or something. Or Maybe set up more than one room I dunno.
PS# or 360 btw?
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I'd like to play as Jill right now...if only the redeem code would -work-. That'd be awesome if it did.
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I just got the game! Unfortunately my Gold Member is half-way over (unless my mom can pay for that 3-month Gold Membership + 3-months and 2 XBLA games deal). For DLC characters: Jill or Shuma?
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sOMUh7_Dn0[/youtube]
Final matches after the bracket reset for Final Round. DAT ARM. DAT LVL. 3 TRON COUNTER GRAB. 8B
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I'd like to play as Jill right now...if only the redeem code would -work-. That'd be awesome if it did.
Which system? Because I remember someone mentioning 360 owners had to go to a site and enter the code on the case to get the actual XBLA Code. The PS3 version has its code printed right on the comic book.
Speaking of, I got the PSTriple version.
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He has 360, so yeah, gotta redeem it first.
Also, I'm keeping my promise. Wednesday Night Fights should be starting soon
http://es-mx.justin.tv/offcast#/w/973645120
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Someone say something about an RPM fight night or tournament? I'm in.
Also if you can only get one DLC character get Jill.
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I'll join the tournament and handily get my ass handed to me. Might get me back into the game because I haven't touched it in a little while now.
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I'll join the tournament and handily get my ass handed to me. Might get me back into the game because I haven't touched it in a little while now.
I'm down for a match right now!
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Man, everyones gonna be in [twin slasher] mode by the time I get this game for the PS3.
Finances be damned!
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Man, everyones gonna be in [twin slasher] mode by the time I get this game for the PS3.
Finances be damned!
Don't worry. I maintain a good level of sucking at this game! XD
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Don't worry. I maintain a good level of sucking at this game! XD
What little I played from a rent, I got raped by Galactus, suck with Zero, love Dante and cannot get an air combo going worth a damn.
So when the time comes, I am ready to bring the suck!
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Everyone here has a healthy advantage over poor me. I have next to zero/miniscule amounts of 2D fighter experience. The only thing I'm good for is one off specials and team synergies, the latter of which I still can't do 100% because I don't have the game on hand to go back to the lab (again, OH NO!) with.
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What little I played from a rent, I got raped by Galactus, suck with Zero, love Dante and cannot get an air combo going worth a damn.
So when the time comes, I am ready to bring the suck!
It's real simple. Smack them up to the air with X (Special) then, the usual pattern is Med, Med, Heavy. Depending on the character, here is where you can change things up three different ways.
1) You hit X again and your opponent slams down into the ground. If you land fast enough, you can call a partner to hit on the ground (OTG) and try to reset the combo or you can use a special (Zero's Rekkoha, for example.)
2) Hit X while holding a direction to tag in a team mate. Depending on the direction, one of three things will happen:
-2a) Hit Up+X, you'll smack your opponent higher into the air. This one does the most damage.
-2b) Hit Left/Right+X, you'll smack your opponent off the wall. This one does less the damage, but is quick to pull.
-2c) Hit Down+X, you'll slam your opponent into the ground, who will then bounce back up. This is the weakest one damage wise, but it automatically gives you one bar of Hyper Gauge for free. People with Phoenix on their team love to use this one.
When you do any of these, you're free to repeat 2 again to tag in your third partner, then choose to go either step one or step three, which is...
3) Hit them with an aerial hyper. The fortunate part in this game is that hypers in this game are always Hado, Back Hado, or Shoryu inputs with two attack buttons. From here on, you have even more options, like entering another hyper input during the one going to tag in a partner and have them perform their hyper. This doesn't always works, like during certain cinematic hypers (Dante's level 3, for instance.) You can even X-Factor to cancel the hyper and pull it off again, but using X-Factor is a whole separate topic.
tl;dr: anyone can do an air combo easily and the variety of options opens up the potential quite nicely.
Honestly, just like I learned in Tatsunoko vs. Capcom, the best friend you have in this game is training mode and just dicking around in there. Mission mode can also help, but some of the later ones get frustrating in that you need to be familiar with the character and the general game engine to pull off some of the combos.
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I finally got 100% again in mission mode (which means I finally beat Jill 10) ;___;
This calls for a Bison "Yes!"
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs[/youtube]
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I've established my reaction speed and patience will never let me see that goal.
Feels quite bad.
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It's not that bad, SF4's and Blazblue's are infinitely worse.
Btw, I'm up for some matches if anyone wants to play.
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(http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/076/e/a/dear_catcom__err_capcom_by_suzuran-d3bvbdd.jpg)
I agree with her selection!
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Lol, I just tried this game on JB HIFI.
Man, Do I just suck. Can't even pull a super.
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Yes you do :P
Anyways, JP site is announcing an update for next week. Something about Challenge Mode.
「MARVEL VS. CAPCOM 3 Fate of Two Worlds」をお楽しみ頂いているお客様へ
3月22日（火）にタイトルアップデートを実施する予定です。
本件は3月25日（金）に追加配信を予定している「DLチャレンジモード」に備えるためのアップデートとなります。
※タイトルアップデート、「DLチャレンジモード」ともに無料配信となります。
※タイトルアップデート、「DLチャレンジモード」をお楽しみ頂くにはゲーム機本体をネットワークに接続しておく必要があります。
※「DLチャレンジモード」とはチャレンジミッションが配信されるモードです。
※「DLチャレンジモード」をクリアもしくはリタイヤしない限り、他のモードで遊ぶことは出来ません。予めご了承ください。
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Any one else kinda excited to know who the next DLC members of the cast will be? XD
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You mean Frank West and Doctor Octopus? =P
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I just want more Cosmic characters there. That's the only thing to keep my interest in this game.
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It's probably that Event Mode that you see mentioned near the Shadow Battle titles. Might be cool.
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(http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/076/e/a/dear_catcom__err_capcom_by_suzuran-d3bvbdd.jpg)
I agree with her selection!
If I remember, Servbot was pretty broken in MvC2. I'd love to use him again, for he is one of the few to take down a setinel player~
Yes you do :P
Anyways, JP site is announcing an update for next week. Something about Challenge Mode.
「MARVEL VS. CAPCOM 3 Fate of Two Worlds」をお楽しみ頂いているお客様へ
3月22日（火）にタイトルアップデートを実施する予定です。
本件は3月25日（金）に追加配信を予定している「DLチャレンジモード」に備えるためのアップデートとなります。
※タイトルアップデート、「DLチャレンジモード」ともに無料配信となります。
※タイトルアップデート、「DLチャレンジモード」をお楽しみ頂くにはゲーム機本体をネットワークに接続しておく必要があります。
※「DLチャレンジモード」とはチャレンジミッションが配信されるモードです。
※「DLチャレンジモード」をクリアもしくはリタイヤしない限り、他のモードで遊ぶことは出来ません。予めご了承ください。
I bet the mode is hidden amongst the piles of data, lol.
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Bleh. I'm on a huge losing streak lately. So many spencer posers and wolverines. Oh yeah, and sentinel. I can counter sentinel but spencer and wolverine is tough. Can't see why people don't pick their personal favorites anymore, rather then the team that they see others using.
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Because if they play characters other people are good at, they'll clearly be better.
Fighting game players tend to be sheep like that.
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There's a patch out today supposedly, I'm not home yet to check.
They nerfed Sentinel. Yeah they did other stuff like removing Akuma's infinite (dunno if they left Cap's in), but who cares, they nerfed Sentinel's health and that's all I honestly care about :D
Sure, I could deal with Sent before (except laggy ones, [tornado fang] them), but that doesn't mean even the scrubby ones weren't a big pain in the ass to fight.
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Hey, any PSN players up for some matches tonight?
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Perhaps in an hour or two.
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Found this at Shoryuken.com
A small patch launched for Marvel vs Capcom 3 today that actually made some gameplay adjustments. According to many reports, Sentinel's Health total is down to 905,000, from 1,300,000. This is an insane drop and the reaction I'm getting from most players this morning is that this was too much.
We'll keep this post updated with any other changes that players discover.
Change list (Version 1.02) -
-Sentinel's health is now 905,000, down from 1,300,000. (DarkRagna says he lives at 904,900 damage, but dies at 905,000. Thanks!)
-The Haggar/Spencer freeze glitch is fixed. (Tip from trag)
-The Spencer loop shown in this video is gone. (Stark tipped in that "Spencer's M followup to ground QCF now bounces him up instead of returning him to the ground, so you don't land and can't keep it going")
-Hitstun deterioration on Akuma's air Tatsu is now more severe, preventing his infinite. (Thanks to Desk for the info and research)
-This update sets the game up for the new Event mode.
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Friend request sent to you PB. Ready for some matches.
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Friend request sent to you PB. Ready for some matches.
Okay. First I have to download the update.
Lets see how this goes! XD
Posted on: March 23, 2011, 03:37:08
Right. I forget the 'rents are streaming something. The lag was probably my fault.
I can't wait till I get FIOS.
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Ah. I was looking over to my PC trying to identify any running services sucking bandwidth while still fighting, haha. I didn't find any so that must be it.
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Yeah. I can maybe try again in about 20 minutes or so. Hopefully they'll be done by then.
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Wanna give it one more shot before I head out?
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Sure, why not. Hopefully it goes better.
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Behold TEAM MEAT-WALL
Good matches. Lag wasn't too bad, only had spurts near the ends of matches.
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How did it go?
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Behold TEAM MEAT-WALL
Good matches. Lag wasn't too bad, only had spurts near the ends of matches.
The end match lag reeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaallly [tornado fang]'d me over in that 2nd to last match. It would NOT activate the X Factor. That just pissed me off.
Either way though, good matches. Hopefully we can play again when I have FIOS.
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I'm up for some matches if anyone wants to play.
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930PM EST. Anyone down? Work schedule is too demanding for early games.
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After pretty much a week of searching for someone 1st Lord or above in ranked that ended in failure, today I found and lost badly to the guy that's #14 in the leaderboards first match I found. Wow, I'd say that was pretty lucky if it wasn't because of the whole "it took a week" part.
I'm up for some matches btw.
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Everyone. I am happy. I am. So. Happy. :D :D :D :D :D :D
http://www.ripten.com/2011/03/22/sentinel-gets-nerfed-big-time-in-latest-mvc3-patch-brycew/
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Personally, I don't think that making a patch this early was a good idea. Like any other competitive game, there may be a character that may be harder to deal with than usual, but over time people adapt to it and said character becomes easier to deal with over time. Metagames generally change over time and when you release patches (especially this early) you generally stifle growth and creativity. Instead of looking for ways to defeat said obstacle you just wait on a patch to make it easier for you.
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While I don't exactly disagree and think that they overdid it a little with the health nerf, I do think that he did have a little too much health. Yeah, he's a giant robot so he should have more health than most, but not THAT much. Then add the fact that he pretty much gets the best boost from XFactor overall (WHY did anyone think that giving him one of the biggest boosts in damage ON TOP of all the damage he already did was a good idea?). [tornado fang] Sentinel.
Yeah, I can and have dealt with it, not to mention that I AM aware of his actual flaws so no need to tell me about them, but that doesn't change that I think they overdid it with him originally.
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Oh, I couldn't tell you his flaws if I wanted to, as I don't even own the game (or have even played it for that matter), though there is a nifty video tutorial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vybIP-DBQio) for that. I have played many other fighters, though, and I tend to keep tabs on the fighting game community in general. At any rate, health nerfing isn't a terrible idea in itself, but I agree that they went too far with it. Instead of taking a little off the top, they went and cut the guy down completely. He's still a good character, yes, but dropping his health so low (especially after only one month) seems a bit harsh. It's always good to give the game some time to progress before making changes and all that.
That said, from what I'm hearing MvC3 seems like a pretty incomplete game. I mean, people are dropping $60 for it and you've still got extra characters to pay for, as well as new modes and all that. I mean, there were people that complained about MM9/10 having DLC, but for a $10 game it's not that big of a deal. For a $60 game, that seems to be a bit much IMO.
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It's their choice to get it or not. If you get it and complain that the characters you pay for is too expensive, then you just proved how much of a sheep you are. If you did not get it, and say "Eh, I don't -need- those characters" then power to you. But at the end of the day, people have the choice to not get Jill or Shuma. (There's a thread for this talk.) Just because there's DLC doesn't mean the game is incomplete. In fact, unless you were on the game development -project- for said game, I just think most people who say it are kinda blowing smoke out of their ass. Soooo no one is holding a gun to anyone elses head and saying "BUY SHUMA OR I'LL BLOW YOUR [tornado fang]ing HEAD OFF!"
But on the topic of Sentinel, I think it gives him more of a balance, look at Phoenix. Over powered and broken like hell, but she has low health to balance that out. How is it okay to have Sentinel--who has armor frames, supers that can be chained easily from OTG moves, and distance spamming with anything -more- then 900,000? If that's not right then Ironman should have armor frames where he is invincible, (Tony's armor is more durable and tougher then any Sentinel) Thor should have it too, as should Captian America's shield -not- lose momentum when he's hit. Honestly, I think it's either that or Sentinel loses the armor frames and the quick speed of his mouth lazers. The move is about making the game more fair and balanced and no one should have to look up videos--ONLINE just to learn how to beat -one- character and base their teams off of beating that one character.
Edit: I think that we're way past the point of saying the game is a bit early for fixing, namely for the fact that I've run across people who've had 3,000+ matches already. But besides that, should they wait a year to fix some problems? Or maybe three years? Or ten when Marvel vs Capcom 4 comes out? (Hehehe....team "Ten more years") It's never "Too early" to fix problems in general. Why wait later? For -everyone- to look online, base their teams on beating one guy, everyone stops using Sentinel and then---they release a patch that makes him weaker? That makes no sense.
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On Sent's defense (weird I know), he has a huge ass hitbox and not a single safe move, so he's gonna get hit way more often than Phoenix.
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Which can be true, however that depends on what kind of character are you using? Cause if it's M.O.D.O.K or Doomy...yeah, no. Unleass you plain rush him down (Which can be risky in itself) it's not going to happen. The thing about Phoenix is that if you have a quick-beam super character like Ryu, Akuma or Doomy, you can punish her from a distance and not have to rush her down. Sentinel is more of a case of outsmarting the player and Sentinel's moveset and most "guides" I've seen online revolve around countering the laser more then his armor frame moves.
Edit: Actually, it's pretty accurate. When you think about it anyways. Sentinel's armor is not supposed to be that tough anyways. Black Cat has literally -ripped- her way into one and destroyed it from the inside before. Their armor is weaker and thinner to support mass production. So even from a logical comic standpoint, that's pretty on spot.
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The move is about making the game more fair and balanced and no one should have to look up videos--ONLINE just to learn how to beat -one- character and base their teams off of beating that one character.
If you can use online gaming to play on then there's nothing wrong with using it to get information to beat certain tactics. The internet is great because it allows you to share and collect information regarding fighting games and such. Often times a certain strategy may feel downright unbeatable, and then when someone makes a video tutorial it allows the information to be broken down and explained better than if you were going off of nothing outside of sheer trial and error. The internet's gone a long way of getting strategies out in the open for fighting game players, which allows you to further strategize and prepare.
Edit: I think that we're way past the point of saying the game is a bit early for fixing, namely for the fact that I've run across people who've had 3,000+ matches already. But besides that, should they wait a year to fix some problems? Or maybe three years? Or ten when Marvel vs Capcom 4 comes out? (Hehehe....team "Ten more years") It's never "Too early" to fix problems in general. Why wait later? For -everyone- to look online, base their teams on beating one guy, everyone stops using Sentinel and then---they release a patch that makes him weaker? That makes no sense.
I wasn't thinking anywhere close to a year; two months would have even been a good time span. And you can't really base time-spans on how many matches some people have played online. Tournament results are generally a better source for that kind of data, and I hear that Sentinel really hasn't been over-centralizing too much. Also, you shouldn't really have to base your entire team on beating one guy just to win. In fighting games, bad matchups exist, and when using certain characters you'll have to work a lot harder to win than you would with others. It all boils down to how much time you're willing to spend training and learning the game as a whole.
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Tournament results are generally a better source for that kind of data, and I hear that Sentinel really hasn't been over-centralizing too much.
He may not be winning tourneys, but he sure as hell is the most used character.
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He may not be winning, but he sure as hell is the most used character.
I was at the PAX East tournament. I'd say 85-90% of the players there were using him.
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I think the nerf is alright. He needed some sort of drawback. And I'm actually thinking of using Big Poppa Pump more now because of it.
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Oh sure when I post about the nerf no one notices. I blame PB.
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Well, you didn't notice me posting about it first, so, karma or something >.>
Anyways, people, tomorrow we'll have event mode. Yay.
Anyways, looking for matches.
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Well, you didn't notice me posting about it first, so, karma or something >.>
Anyways, people, tomorrow we'll have event mode. Yay.
Anyways, looking for matches.
Quite you! I am trying to blame something on PB. =p
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Who says karma didn't cause PB to be responsible for it somehow to screw with you?
...Want some matches?
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Thanx Ramzal. I never would've found out about Sentinel's nerfage without you!
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Who says karma didn't cause PB to be responsible for it somehow to screw with you?
...Want some matches?
Doh, didn't see that reply was typing a paper.
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So....anyone so totally not blown away by event mode?
Edit: You know. I've been thinking about trading the game in maybe. I'm just disappointed about the...stale methods of online play.
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I still enjoy playing friends and arcade modes. I play online here and there, still feel like I am training.
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sd87849Sw-Q[/youtube]
This just made me smile! 8)
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....PB, has anyone ever told you how awesome you are? You are so awesome, I could kiss you! :D But I won't cause that's just...strange. Inspiration struck after seeing this and it's Spidey combo making time. (Besides, my wife threatened me to never sell this game, or I am--in her own words: "Catching a couch perma-ban."
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Yeah, I have some ideas after seeing this as well. Whether I'll actually be able to pull them off is another thing entirely. I just love the fact that those beatings are set to the proper music! 8D
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No doubt. I've been listening to psx spidey theme remix of that while practicing. XD I found out you can crawler assualt--and when Spidey kicks them back, X-factor like in the video but go into maximum spider right after. I've made two sentinel users rage quit and caused a Hulk, Akuma, Sentinel team to just stop fighting back. Geez, he's a destroyer.
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sd87849Sw-Q[/youtube]
This just made me smile! 8)
Yikes, very nice. I always liked using him, but I've grown more accustomed to others in this one. Spidey's already clearly PB's best character so far, and I'd hate to see the ideas this is giving him XD
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Maximum Spider.
Block.
Final Justice.
Its an inside joke.
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I don't know how anyone could sleep on Spidey in this one. He might not be a visual showcase or hit hard as [tornado fang], but he's a competitor in the best kind of way. Reminds me a bit of how people were thinking that Morrigan wouldn't amount to much, then the Astral Vision X-Factor tricks came around. There's a ton of things left to discover with them too. The cast is nowhere near figured out yet and that's what makes me love this game.
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Yikes, very nice. I always liked using him, but I've grown more accustomed to others in this one. Spidey's already clearly PB's best character so far, and I'd hate to see the ideas this is giving him XD
Haha, like I said. Me having these ideas and me being able to execute them are two entirely different things all together! XD
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Maximum Spider.
Block.
Final Justice.
Its an inside joke.
Okay, you. YOU need to do what I do when it comes to Captian America....Everytime you do Final Justice, just start singing "America! F8*k, yeah!" :D Speaking of which, that reminds me of my friend playing against a Cap online with -uber- slow lag and getting final justiced. <Sully> Wow. This is...wonderful. <Me> Annoyed? <Sully> No. Well, yes. But this is an old fashioned american ass wooping in slow motion. I mean, seriously this is the most patriotic thing I've ever seen.
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What Lou is referring too is what happened whenever I fought both him & my friend Josh in other previous Vs. games in which Spidey was a character. More specifically, Marvel Super Heroes when I playing Josh. 8)
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There's a ton of things left to discover with them too. The cast is nowhere near figured out yet and that's what makes me love this game.
Indeed. Although I know that whatever is found with my Ammy, a lot of Hs will always be there XD
Also, god damn it, I finally got down that Zero relaunch combo with the buster and the electric dive (heheh, god I love doing that combo->Rekkoha->DHC Hsien-ko's gold armor->DHC Okami Shuffle, 700-800 and I get the most annoying assist in the game too 8D), and then my arcade stick's B button gets [tornado fang]'d beyond what's possible for me to repair with tape anymore >___<
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Okay, you. YOU need to do what I do when it comes to Captian America....Everytime you do Final Justice, just start singing "America! F8*k, yeah!" :D Speaking of which, that reminds me of my friend playing against a Cap online with -uber- slow lag and getting final justiced. <Sully> Wow. This is...wonderful. <Me> Annoyed? <Sully> No. Well, yes. But this is an old fashioned american ass wooping in slow motion. I mean, seriously this is the most patriotic thing I've ever seen.
Also, the proper thing to say after Captain America wins is, "Freedom doesn't just prevail. FREEDOM. ALLLLLLWAYS. PREVAILS." after his victory in MSH.
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Finally picked up the game for the PS3.
I'm terrible at it.
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So...these are supposedly the new characters to be included as DLC. (http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/85242/rumour-marvel-vs-capcom-3-character-dlc-plans-outed/)
That's a rather big list. I wouldn't have expected Capcom to include more than 4 more people in the game, but that many. I'm taking it with a grain of salt. But then again, it is coming from Lupinko.
And I bet the new stages will cost money.
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That would be awesome!
... if they don't cost 5$ each.
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Until I see any confirmation that that's the real Lupinko (and a twitter comment he made this morning saying "accept no substitues" makes me really doubt it is) I'm calling fake.
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I hope the list is true.
ICE BEAM! 8D
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Objections all up in this [sonic slicer]
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Well link is dead now it might be more then a rumor if it was pulled by capcom. either way we will know next week.
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Marvel
Dr. Octopus
Juggernaut
Elektra
Apocalypse
Iceman
Thanos
Ms. Marvel
Capcom
Frank West (Dead Rising)
Phoenix Wright (Ace Attorney)
Mega Man X (Mega Man)
Gene (God Hand)
Jon Talbain (Darkstalkers)
Strider Hiryu (Strider)
Gail (Dino Crisis)
In case anyone missed it.
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That would be awesome!
... if they don't cost 5$ each.
You know it will... Why change now when they know they will receive backlash for forking over $10 for the first 2 characters?
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You know it will... Why change now when they know they will receive backlash for forking over $10 for the first 2 characters?
5 dollars? [tornado fang].
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That DLC list was confirmed as a fake by someone on Capcom Unity.
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Think I started to find my team tonight with some friends. Looks like Dante, Akuma and Tron.
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I still need to shop around for a third character. Tron will definitely be my anchor, and Zero could fit either on point or in the middle. If Zero's in the middle, I might go with She Hulk on point. If Zero's on point, I may try people like Taskmaster or Sentinel.
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So, RPM, anyone up for a fight? Come on, I'll be handicapped (my stick broke so I have to use the 360 pad) :D
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If you were on PS3, sure. But it seems you're on the 360.
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So, RPM, anyone up for a fight? Come on, I'll be handicapped (my stick broke so I have to use the 360 pad) :D
I am up for a few matches.
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Yay
GT:SolarKnightR
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Have mercy since I am not that good. >w<
Posted on: April 08, 2011, 09:17:41 PM
@first match: So close... If you hadn't brought in X-Factor...
@2nd match: Spidey. :P
3rd: I won, finally.
4th: I was winning, but you came back hard...
5th: I give up, lol
I thought I said have mercy. For some reason, I suck at fighting games. -u-'
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I thought I said have mercy.
I tried =P
Matches 1-3 were experimenting with characters, 4 was my sub team, and 5 as my real team but I chose the wrong assist for Ammy.
GGs, although there was a bit of lag, you could always blame that =P
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I lag with anyone and everyone. I miss Comcast.
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More like this game lags with anyone and everyone.
Anyways, I want to try a team based on chip damage. Dormington is DEFINITELY in it already, ball of fire->XFC->another ball of fire after a kill feels WAY too good to not use XD Other than him I was thinking Chris, but I'm not sure, and I don't want Storm in it, even if her hail does tons of chip.
Any suggestions?
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(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/122/d/5/dear_catcom__err_capcom_by_suzuran-d3bvbdd.jpg)
More Meovel vs. Catcom. This time, additional kitties we'd like to see in the game.
Oh look at Blues Kitty! Sooooooooooooo adorably sexy! 0v0
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I had made a theoretical movelist for X a while back (http://forum.rockmanpm.com/index.php?topic=3958.msg301515#msg301515). I read it over again and wanted to make some changes. So I did. Tell me what you think.
::edit 11/7:: went more in depth with a bunch of moves, tweaked a tiny bit, and added two more colors.
[spoiler=MvC3 Mega Man X movelist (ver. UMvC3)]The Simple Stuff:
-X is no slouch up close, but he definitely excels as a zoning character with many various ranged moves.
-X's health and strength are identical to Ryu. One of those rare 1 million health characters nowadays.
-He cannot double jump, but he can air dash forward and backward.
-Walking speed and regular air speed are a tiny bit below average.
-His dashes take a little longer than other characters to accelerate to full speed (a handful of frames. It's noticable but not drastic. All this really means is that his wavedash sucks), but they are fairly quick and travel a generous distance overall. Better than Zero's, but not as good as Hienkyaku of course.
-He preserves his momentum from an air dash for a while after the air dash ends (just like the SNES X physics). This would be his best way to approach.
-When blocking, the blue aura sphere from X3's armor upgrade appears around him. If X is blocking for longer than three realtime seconds, the aura turns red. No change in the damage he takes, it's all cosmetic.
-X's intro mimics his intro from the PlayStation X games. His outro starts out with his outro from X8 (a victorious arm pump), then transitions to his SNES/Playstation outro (raising his arm victoriously to the sky), then warps away.
-His death animation is exploding into many circles.
-Alternate color #1: Proto Man colors (red and gray), complete with black visor. In place of the scarf, his helmet gem is yellow.
Alternate color #2: X4 Ultimate Armor colors (purple and blue)
Alternate color #3: Gold Armor
Alternate color #4: Alia (pink and white)
Alternate color #5: green chest, blue arms, brown legs (X1 Sigma)
DLC costume: Command Mission armor
Regular Moves:
standing L --- X jabs forward with his left hand (all attacks assuming X is facing right). Nothing special, just a regular ole 5A.
standing M --- X kicks in an upward arc, much like the Mega Ball kick from MM8. Floats a little on hit, especially so in the air.
standing H --- Double Cyclone; X thrusts both hands to the sides, then releases green orbs from each hand. Unlike the regular move, they don't travel anywhere. Both orbs and X's hands can deal damage. The orbs count as projectiles. All hits cause float.
forward+H --- Strike Chain; X fires a grappling hook forward that retracts once it reaches its maximum length (about 1/3 max screen size, nowhere near as long as Spencer's arm) or hits the opponent or a wall. If it hits the opponent or wall, X is reeled in towards them/it. Cannot be cancelled without X Factor. Only the claw at the end of the chain has a hitbox. Damage is minimal. Combos after are possible but with very strict timing.
backward+H --- Fire Wave; X fires a stream of flames forward. This is functionally identical to Chris' flamethrower. However, it's horizontal hitbox is shorter and vertical hitbox is larger.
S --- Tornado Fang; X produces a drill at the end of his buster and performs an uppercut. It's basically Volnutt's Drill Upper from TvC, but this is X's launcher.
crouching L --- X jabs forward with his left hand just like his 5A, but hits low this time.
crouching M -- X kicks low with his left leg. Run of the mill combo filler and probably X's best poke.
diagonal down/forward M --- Acid Burst; X fires a bubble of acid on the ground in front of him. On contact with the ground, it splashes a little to the left and right. All parts of the projectile hit once each, cause soft knockdown, and hit OTG. Its cooldown is not generous, so comboing after the initial hit can be tricky without assists or X Factor. Comboing after the splash would be easier. This is X's Beta assist, appearing in front of the lead.
crouching H --- X spins 360 degrees around with his right leg out. Causes hard knockdown and hits low.
j.L --- X jabs quickly with his left hand again, but this time diagonally downward. Hits high.
j.M --- X kicks forward with his right foot. Hits high. Probably his best jump in.
j.H --- Drift Diamond; X spins around once while a group of 6 ice clumps circle close around his body in a double helix. Three start in front of X, 3 behind. When positioned correctly, all 6 hits can connect. The ice count as projectiles and are not very durable at all. X's body has no hitbox.
j.forward H --- Strike Chain; same as ground version, but also resets vertical velocity even on whiff. Can only be used once during a jump.
j.S --- X slashes in front of and slightly below him with the Blade Armor's sword. Hits high. At point blank, hits twice. The second hit in that case would knock down in an air combo. Also a good jump in option.
Forward and backward grab --- X judo flips his opponent over his shoulder onto the ground, steps on their stomach, and fires a weak charge shot at their belly. Can be followed up with Acid Burst and maybe select assists.
Air grab --- X tosses his opponent around him down to the ground a good distance away from him and fires 3 uncharged shots at them while falling. Very difficult to follow up.
Special Moves:
hold any button and release --- X Buster; X charges his buster, then fires a blast full screen forward both on the ground and in the air. He can charge his buster to up to four levels. The first three function identically to Zero's in that there's no difference if you use one button or the other. Level 3 charge shots do cause hard knockdown. The fourth level, however, does differ depending on the button released to fire the shot, costs 1 hyper bar to use and is considered a Hyper Cancel:
--- L releases the Hermes Armor spread shot. One blast fires forward, one diagonally upward, one diagonally downward. Each blast by itself is not terribly strong, and they move slowly, but they cover a lot of ground, and do quite a bit altogether at point blank. The downward shot can OTG. Low-medium durability.
--- M releases the pink helix shot from X1. The blast is taller than a lvl3 charge shot and hits multiple times. Only causes a soft knockdown. Medium durability.
--- H releases the Plasma Shot from X4. The size of the blast is identical to a lvl3. The initial hit is about the same strength as a lvl3, but the blast creates a wave of energy when it makes contact, adding a bunch more hits afterwards. If the initial blast is blocked, the shot continues past the opponent and the extra wave is still produced. If the blast hits an opponent's assists, a wave will be created for each. The waves linger on screen for 1 Marvel second (about 3 real time?). High-medium durability.
--- If S is released, X swings the Z Saber overhead downward much like in X3. The length of the saber is slightly shorter than Zero's, but the damage is remarkable. Cooldown is very long. If performed in the air, X cannot do anything until he lands. Hits high and causes a ground bounce.
The level 3 is X's Alpha assist, where X appears behind the lead. X comes in fully charged, but the shot is a bit weaker and only causes a soft knockdown.
quarter circle forward + attack (air OK) --- Ray Arrow; X fires a yellow beam of light forward. Its y position changes with the y position of X's chest, so if X crouches or jumps after performing the move, the Ray Arrow will move up with him. It always hits mid, even if X crouches. The L version is weak but comes out quickly. The M version is stronger, but has a bit more startup. The H version fires two Ray Arrows stacked vertically. 3 paces away from X, the Ray Arrows will change directions; the top shot will shoot straight up and the bottom will travel to the ground. Strength and speed are identical to the M version. All versions have medium durability. The M version is X's Gamma assist, appearing behind the opponent. If called on the ground, the beam will follow the lead character instead of X. If called in the air, the shot will first move to try and match the player's position before it follows their movement.
dragon punch + attack --- Wing Spiral; X performs a Shoryuken-style uppercut and leaps into the air, with trails of wind circling around him. At the end of the attack, the wind rises upward and deals two extra hits. The stronger the button used, the higher the wind rises and the more the opponent floats. Just like a Shoryuken it is invulnerable on the first few frames.
reverse dragon punch + attack --- Crystal Wall; X raises his hands from the ground to above his head, summoning an orange crystal stalagmite out of the ground. The button used determines where it appears. L is right in front of X, M 2 paces ahead of X, and H 5 paces. It stays standing up for 2 Marvel seconds, then falls and crumbles. It will fall earlier if any character (including X) or an attack comes in contact with it. It takes a handful of frames for the stalagmite to appear; X is completely vulnerable during this. It has very high projectile durability, able to nullify EM Distruptor. It does damage on the way up and when it falls. On the way up can OTG. The move is jump cancellable the first frame the Crystal Wall appears.
half circle backward + attack (air OK) --- Speed Burner; X dashes forward a generous distance while enveloped in fire. It hits multiple times, and the amount of hits increase with the strength of the button used. It has no invincibility, but because it's so quick most physical moves will trade with it at best. Can only be cancelled with Hyper Combos. Untechable time is very short, so followups are limited to assists and Hyper Cancels.
half circle backward + S (air OK) --- Nova Strike; X leaps into the air then flies forward while enveloped in a golden aura. The startup is long, but the move hits more, hits harder, travels faster, and has a larger hitbox than Speed Burner. The last hit causes a wall bounce. X has a few frames of invincibility when the aura appears. After this move is activated, X cannot call assists until the aura disappears. When used on the ground, most characters can simply duck under it.
Hyper Combos:
quarter circle forward + two attacks (1 meter) --- Double Charge; X quickly charges both busters. He releases the charge on his right hand, then his left. The first charge shot is bigger than a level 3 charge shot, hits five times, has high-medium projectile durability, and causes crumple on ground hit and spin on air hit. The second charge is even larger, hits 8 times, causes a wall bounce, and is incredibly durable (rivaling that of Dormammu's Stalker Flare). X is fully invincible from activation to when the first charge shot is released. If you hold S during the move, you can cancel the second charge shot and keep it in reserve. You can move around and attack as you want, just with the limitation of not being able to use S or regular charge shots. When you release S, you'll fire the second charge. If you switch partners while holding the second charge, you will lose the charge when X returns to the field. This Hyper Combo will be used in a Cross Over Combination if X is using either Alpha or Gamma assist.
quarter circle back + two attacks (1 meter) (air OK) --- Electric Spark; X crosses his arms in front of him, then spreads his arms out to face each end of the screen, creating two pillars of electricity 1.5 times X's height. One goes forward, the other backward. They travel full screen rather quickly, hit multiple times, and have a kind of trapping effect seen in similar HC's, like Magnetic Shockwave. This HC will be used in a Cross Over Combination if X is using Beta assist.
dragon punch + two attacks (3 meters) --- Shining Finger; X's fist shakes angrily while the gem on his helmet shines brightly. He then dashes forward low to the ground with that fist out in front. This dash is shorter and slower than his regular dashes, but X is upper body invincible during. It can be beaten with a quick low attack. Has a long cooldown on whiff. If the hit connects, the opponent is sent flying backward in a cinematic. X then gets into stance as his hand begins to glow a bright blue. As the opponent staggers to their feet, X leaps forward and grabs his opponent's face with his glowing hand. A beat later, X screams and fires a large Shinkuu Hadoken-type energy blast from his glowing hand. The opponent is blasted into a wall. When the blast ends, they fall from the wall onto their face. If you land the initial hit close to the wall, it is possible to follow up once the move is done with an OTG, but the move causes massive hitstun so you're not going to get much after. You can mash buttons during the cinematic to increase the number of hits.
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Sounds good to me.
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Okay people. Not to sound arrogant, but because of me you might be seeing an increase in Spider-man users. A sharp increase. I kind of made a combo set that I call "God Slayer" with him and Deadpool (It's consisted of accurate uses of Ultimate Web throw, with spider-sting, Deadpools assist, crawler assault, a normal web throw an web swing and lastly a Maximum Spider.) I only think this because five random people I played asked me how I did that combo and I showed them how online. It's....actually highly unavoidable if you even -start- getting comboed by Spidey. And I call it "God Slayer" because I added up the damage and it's enough to kill Thor twice over if I -don't- loop it. Needless to say, I found out a way to do four Ultimate Web throws back to back in an unescapable way. Needless to say, it's combos that would make any Spidey fan happy. :P
I'm looking at you PB. :D
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Haha, if we didn't lag kinda bad I'd definitely like to see that in person.
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Okay people. Not to sound arrogant, but because of me you might be seeing an increase in Spider-man users. A sharp increase. I kind of made a combo set that I call "God Slayer" with him and Deadpool (It's consisted of accurate uses of Ultimate Web throw, with spider-sting, Deadpools assist, crawler assault, a normal web throw an web swing and lastly a Maximum Spider.) I only think this because five random people I played asked me how I did that combo and I showed them how online. It's....actually highly unavoidable if you even -start- getting comboed by Spidey. And I call it "God Slayer" because I added up the damage and it's enough to kill Thor twice over if I -don't- loop it. Needless to say, I found out a way to do four Ultimate Web throws back to back in an unescapable way. Needless to say, it's combos that would make any Spidey fan happy. :P
I'm looking at you PB. :D
Very very nice! XD
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...I'm confused, how can someone get to 9th ranger with only 8 wins? Even weirder, keep it with 114 losses. No, no it's not the usual glitch, I'm looking at the actual result screen *shrugs*
Also, 2 things
-I hate Chun's Hyakuretsukyaku
-Hsien Ko with armor>Dark Phoenix when she awakens XD
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http://iplaywinner.com/news/2011/7/20/ultimate-marvel-vs-capcom-3-revealed.html
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...*headdesk*
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Now that is a concept I never would have expected from Capcom
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Oh yeah Strider, Ghost Rider, Firebrand, Hawkeye and others were confirmed. Most have yet to be revealed though.
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So..they scrapped the DLC idea..so they can sell us the whole game again + supposed DLC....
Ok let's make bets now. How many remakes witll MVC recieve?
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I literally just got the original game. Figures.
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It's a pretty dumb business decision to make this when the first version isn't even a year old. But hey, it worked for them 20 years ago with all the versions of Street Fighter II, so whatever. And I can see this as trying to make up to those who were disappointed with stuff in the first version, like it was too broken or there's no spectator mode or no Strider. (I'm surprised they managed to get him.) But the way they're doing it isn't exactly helping.
I would've preferred a DLC update to the original, but I'm guessing there's too much new stuff in there for that to be possible. Not just a balance tweak with new characters and moves. We know spectator's in, which probably counts for a lot of that. Perhaps there's also some sort of new game mechanic or something. Mega Crash or some sort of defensive option might be a good idea to have.
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(http://static.capcom.com/character_api/umvc3/profile/vergil.png)
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(http://static.capcom.com/character_api/umvc3/profile/rocket-raccoon.png)
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Rocket Raccoon would be hilarious as a character. Also, if Nova is true, I'm very happy!
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They're all true. They were all accidentally uploaded when only GR, Hawk, Strider, and Red were supposed to be.
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVVT8XadsHk[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlNt8xS3fwY[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKIDRuC-EoA[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-SQ7ex8rzs[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNY-EBIxvjI[/youtube]
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So..no Megaman in UMVC3 eh?
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Well then I'm reaaaaaaaaally happy about Nova & Rocket Raccoon. XD
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There was already ZERO.
Maybe Rock, but X had no chance in hell.
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Well..Atleast Strider did return
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I'm hoping you actually saved those, instead of linking to files we all know were going to disappear once found?
You know, cause they're gone now.
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Lol @ people thinking Megaman's not gonna make it in. While I won't revolt or anything if he doesn't get in, I get the feeling that the chances of him being left out are very slim. Just a feeling I have, I dunno. Also, snowy Kattelox is beautiful and those lifebars look plain awkward.
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Seeing as he wasn't in the 1st, wasn't ever added as DLC, and certainly not in Ultimate as they've already let out all 12 new characters, it's pretty clear he's not getting in.
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P-Pheonix?! Wasn't he already planned for the first game when he was revealed in TatsuCap? o~O
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Lol @ people thinking Megaman's not gonna make it in. While I won't revolt or anything if he doesn't get in, I get the feeling that the chances of him being left out are very slim. Just a feeling I have, I dunno. Also, snowy Kattelox is beautiful and those lifebars look plain awkward.
To be perfectly honest, I think it'd actually be more insulting if Trigger was a character in this game. If anything, it should be Blues.
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I'm surprised that they got Phoenix Wright and Nemesis. But I'm wondering what happened to that Doctor Octopus folder in the original.
Oh and it looks like Jill and Shuma are still DLC.
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Dr. Doom's alt looks cool as [tornado fang].
I'm kinda happy I didn't buy the game on its original release. Though I must admit, I am now afraid to buy it because a new version seems less unlikely.
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Fothermucking Crapcom.
You'd think they'd put the Blue Bomber into UMvC3 to make up the fact that they CANCELED the prodigal son of the Mega Man series!!
Nope, Megaman is OFFICIALLY dead to those executive pr*cks.
O:<
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The MvC development staff has no connection to the unofficial DASH 3 development staff.
P-Pheonix?! Wasn't he already planned for the first game when he was revealed in TatsuCap? Huh What
most of these new ones were planned, but put aside. But He was never planned. In fact the creator said he'd complain or something until they put him in.
I'm kinda happy I didn't buy the game on its original release. Though I must admit, I am now afraid to buy it because a new version seems less unlikely.
Don't worry! You'll have 5 months to enjoy it until they announce Ultimate Marvel vs Crapcom 3: Arcade Edition!
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BAAAAAAAAAAW NO MEGAMAN
At least there's a new Legends stage!
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The MvC development staff has no connection to the unofficial DASH 3 development staff.
most of these new ones were planned, but put aside. But He was never planned. In fact the creator said he'd complain or something until they put him in.
Don't worry! You'll have 5 months to enjoy it until they announce Ultimate Marvel vs Crapcom 3: Arcade Edition!
Well if SF4 is any indication, it probably be a good idea to wait on this to see if they'll pull that stunt again...
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I held off on the original release, but i'll definitely buy this one. That's mostly speaking from the Ace Attorney fan in me, but whatever. I didn't think they would actually bother putting Phoenix in. I SAY WE SHOULD HAVE A COURTROOM STAGE WITH THE JUDGE AS THE ANNOUNCER!
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You guys do know that there's gonna be 2 DLC characters, right (http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2011/jul/20/ultimate-marvel-vs-capcom-3-faq-and-overview/)?
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You guys do know that there's gonna be 2 DLC characters, right (http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2011/jul/20/ultimate-marvel-vs-capcom-3-faq-and-overview/)?
You do realize that 36+12+2=50 right?
Those "2" being Shuma Gorath and Battleslut Jill.
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most of these new ones were planned, but put aside. But He was never planned. In fact the creator said he'd complain or something until they put him in.
Don't worry! You'll have 5 months to enjoy it until they announce Ultimate Marvel vs Crapcom 3: Arcade Edition!
And that's why I'm holding this off until they stop and truly perfected it.
Ah, I thought he was planned or something, I guess. I still remember that scan of TatsuCap clearly, it had Pheonix in it. I guess, I'm not a lawyer myself or anything.
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You do realize that 36+12+2=50 right?
Those "2" being Shuma Gorath and Battleslut Jill.
*counts all characters + 12*
Well dang, that is 50. I guess they were talking about porting over Jill and Shuma, and not adding anymore. I mean, there's always a chance that they'll add some more, but still, I'm pretty surprised that he (or Venom) didn't make it due to the popularity polls.
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I can't even be mad, I didn't get vanilla and this one has mofuckin' Strider and Firebrand with better features and a 40 dollar USD pricetag. Purchase confirmed. XD
Edit: OH MY GOD, IS THAT ART CONFIRMING WHAT I THINK IT IS?
Vergil & Dr. Strange + Strider & Firebrand... My body was not ready, hoooly [tornado fang].
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If I have the proper income/money to waste by release, I'll be sure to get this. I dunno why but I'm kinda excited, despite knowing very few of the characters or hardly playing any fighting games.
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I was kinda hoping for Fou-Lu...
At least there's a new Legends stage!
*hysterical laughter*
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I hate this feeling. The feeling of excitement. When i know i'll be playing right into Capcom's hand buying this, with them probably releasing a next version, like, 6 months after Ultimate.
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BAWWWWWWWWWW WE NO GET MEGA MAN O:<
Just kidding.
Who cares, I get Phoenix Wright, Firebrand, Frank West, Ghost Rider and Strider Hiryu owo
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I'm pretty sure that Strider's orbs being a Level 3 is just temporary for the beta (like Storm's cinematic lvl1). You don't even get meter during it, which is a high price to pay. Clockw0rk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmVusrwXBiI)'s not gonna be happy otherwise. XD
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Considering STARS Wesker is literally his [tornado fang]ing alternate outfit in 5 it should have been in the damn game to begin with.
(http://internationalhouseofgeek.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/screen-shot-2011-07-20-at-10-39-17-am.png)
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Rock'n out eh Modok? XD
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It'd only be awesome if he talked like Elvis.=/
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I ain't mad at the lack of Mega Man but Resident Evil getting a fourth character (though that's a sting.)
I ain't mad that Legends gets "another stage" (thought that's also a sting... also that's not snow, that's salt from the tears of fans.)
I ain't even mad that Phoenix Wright is a playable character (the Ace Attorney fans needed a nod, and also they threw in Vergil. [tornado fang] yeah.)
I am mad at this:
It's probably worth reiterating that Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 is retail-only, much as Super Street Fighter IV was. According to a statement from Capcom, "We think everything offered in Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 is worthy of a full retail release. With updates oft he game system, spectator mode, etc. it would be a quite a lot for a DLC update. So, to be clear: If you want these 12 characters and everything else available in the update, you're gonna have to buy a disc.
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Goddammit, Capcom. If you're willing to killing Mega Man Legends 3 for more SFIV rehashs, the least you guys could do is make the "Ultimate" MvC3 a DLC expansion to the original game instead of forcing us to pay $60-something dollars for the game again. At least people like G.REV have the balls to make an expansion to their recent bullet hell game on XBLA for a mere $5 in MS Points. B(
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Uhh....It's flat out been stated that the game will only be $39.99.
(http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/9206/gamestoppromo.png)
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Uhh....It's flat out been stated that the game will only be $39.99.
(http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/9206/gamestoppromo.png)
Whoops. I didn't see that. I haven't really posted here in ages.
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Stars Wesker?
Hell yeah! 0v0
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This will do until a bigger pictures exits, but:
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(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/genehf/mod_dwi.png)
After over 30 years, Elvis reveals that he didn't really die.
EDITTED:: Previous joke was horrible.
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How in the world is Wright gonna fight? =O
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That is the eternal mystery Krystal. XD
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[objection!]
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Wasn't there a comic poking fun about it?
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Yes, yes there was. =w=b
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He needs to just be how he was originally planned: sitting behind his desk and it has wheels on it.
He's Capcom's MODOK.
Or he can just throw tables at people. (ノ ﾟДﾟ)ノ ＝＝＝＝ ┻━━┻))ﾟДﾟ)･∵
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Table flipping level 3 hyper would be all kinds of hilarious. XD
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Wasn't there a comic poking fun about it?
http://matsu-sensei.deviantart.com/art/Take-it-to-court-196371636?q=gallery%3Amatsu-sensei%2F28669026&qo=15 (http://matsu-sensei.deviantart.com/art/Take-it-to-court-196371636?q=gallery%3Amatsu-sensei%2F28669026&qo=15)
http://matsu-sensei.deviantart.com/art/Law-and-Order-196505209?q=gallery%3Amatsu-sensei%2F28669026&qo=14 (http://matsu-sensei.deviantart.com/art/Law-and-Order-196505209?q=gallery%3Amatsu-sensei%2F28669026&qo=14)
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Table flipping level 3 hyper would be all kinds of hilarious. XD
XD James Chen confirmed?
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XD James Chen confirmed?
Dying here. XD
The only way a Phoenix inclusion could get better is if every now and again, his Objection bubble would switch between "Hold That", "Salty" & "Free". XD
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I wonder if he'll use a step ladder.
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Dying here. XD
The only way a Phoenix inclusion could get better is if every now and again, his Objection bubble would switch between "Hold That", "Salty" & "Free". XD
That, or some more Yipes quotes:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIPoKMefnWY[/youtube]
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I wonder if he'll use a step ladder.
I'm pretty sure he'll use a ladder. You need to stop judging things based on narrow-minded cultural assumptions, STM. 8D
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I'm pretty sure he'll use a ladder. You need to stop judging things based on narrow-minded cultural assumptions, STM. 8D
<3
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The only way a Phoenix inclusion could get better is if every now and again, his Objection bubble would switch between "Hold That", "Salty" & "Free". XD
This sentence kinda confused me until halfway through. There's gonna be two Phoenixes in this game. We gotta start being more specific. Like calling him Nick or Feenie. And calling her Jean or Chickenhead.
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Meh, it's only 2 when you use the fake american name. Phoenix Write always sounded stupid. But at least Miles Edgeworth sounds classy. Bender or Robot Devil classy.
http://shoryuken.com/2011/07/21/mega-man-in-my-ultimate-mvc3-its-less-likely-than-you-think/
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This sentence kinda confused me until halfway through. There's gonna be two Phoenixes in this game. We gotta start being more specific. Like calling him Nick or Feenie. And calling her Jean or Chickenhead.
Simple, we call Phoenix Wright "Ryuichi" (his Japanese name) and Marvel Phoenix "Jean".
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Or Naruho
bodo. :3
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Or Naruhobodo. :3
...Now I want him to get his hobo look as an alt. costume.
WE DESERVE THAT MUCH!
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...Now I want him to get his hobo look as an alt. costume.
WE DESERVE THAT MUCH!
The hobo costume now belongs to Mega Man
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http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2011/jul/22/mega-man-gene-god-hand-were-final-umvc3-character-pool/
• Gene from God Hand was in very close consideration for UMvC3's roster. They had more characters in the final pool than they could put in the game, and Gene happened to be in that category. Mega Man was in the final pool of characters too.
• Capcom is not prepared to talk about DLC for UMvC3 right now. Sven said DLC is a part of their business, but that doesn't mean character DLC has to be.
• Svensson said Mega Man is absolutely not dead and continues to be a very important brand for them.
• The net code in UMvC3 is its own thing, it's a different beast than anything Capcom has used in their other games.
• UMvC3 costumes won't have alternative colors, like in SF4, the focus is instead on changing the geometry around.
• Cyclops wasn't a consideration for UMvC3, and Venom was never an option for characters they could choose from Marvel's roster. In the case of Cyclops, they already have a ton of X-Men in the game, so they didn't want to add yet another one.
• Having a balance of race or sex wasn't a discussion for UMvC3's roster.
• The following statement was very up in the air: If you didn't buy Jill/Shuma in vanilla MvC3, they won't be selectable in UMvC3 unless you purchase them. Again, this is not 100% and may change. Svensson was a bit out of the loop on this, so he said take this info with a huge grain of salt.
• Capcom will talk about the DLC for SF3 3s Online Edition after it's released, around August 23/24, 2011.
• About the Darkstalkers "announcement" it's just Ono trying to get the game made, he wasn't trolling or trying to mislead. Svensson called the sites that posted the Darkstalkers is being remade story "bad reporting," Ono just wants to stir up interest so he can get the game in development.
• Svenson is a lying sack of [parasitic bomb] that lures children into his gingerbread house.
• More Fight Clubs will happen in the future.
• Gambit isn't being ignored for UMvC3, but he's not in the game.
• Poison's gender is supposed to be ambiguous.
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That would explain a lot for the Marvel side. The game is filled with X-Men as it is, although I did want to see Venom return. As for Capcom, it's nice to hear that MM was a finalist, but getting left out for Nemesis and Firebrand still strikes me as odd.
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Read over the articles involving UMvC3 on EventHubs.
'Bout F**KING time you show some goddamn respect for Gene. And hinting at ADDITIONAL DLC if fans support the game enough?
Guys, we NEED to get Mega Man in there, NOW.
Posted on: July 22, 2011, 08:07:29 PM
That would explain a lot for the Marvel side. The game is filled with X-Men as it is, although I did want to see Venom return. As for Capcom, it's nice to hear that MM was a finalist, but getting left out for Nemesis and Firebrand still strikes me as odd.
About Firebrand:
"Firebrand, the flying red demon, is one of Capcom’s lesser known characters and he made it in, though. Requests from fans of Gargoyle’s Quest didn’t have anything to do with this. Capcom wanted a creature-like character who could fly for Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3. With that criteria in mind, they thought of Firebrand and added him to the game."
-Niitsuma
Reference link: http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2011/jul/21/niitsuma-briefly-explains-why-mega-man-isnt-umvc3/
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With that criteria in mind, they thought of Firebrand and added him to the game."
Oh Capcom and your "criterias".
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I like that Niitsuma is very proactive about DLC and new content even if that idea didn't work out so well with Vanilla MVC3. I hope this time things go smoothly and we see more cast members and features added over time. With a game/series as truly exciting as this one is, the only issue it could have at any point is with content.
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IF Firebrand could "fly", what about Silver Surfer in the previous games, let alone Magneto.. Oh wait, this is the Capcom side we are talking about. We could've had him in the first place (I mean, the first two games) if they had Arthur as an Assist. -u-'
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Not really an update on UMVC3 or anything but, I did however win a 30 man tourney just recently. 8)
(http://s4.postimage.org/bh9arxus/IMAG0011.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/bh9arxus/)
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Wow, congrats~ <3 You deserve it! ^^
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Thanks! I really wanted to head out to EVO this year but.. with work and all, couldn't get off. Just watching some friends competing is more than enough to suffice. :)
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovqYktZQKh0[/youtube]
I love it! 8D
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LOL! X'D
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If we were to get just literally that, it would still be 10 times better than Rocket Raccoon.
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I was disappointed when I saw it was fake, but after continuing the video, I found it hard to not fall in love. XD
And if someone like Wright can make it in, Franziska would be an obvious choice given she has an actual weapon. Imagine the sweet, stylish whip combos!
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What's sad is that his theme song won't be this awesome. XD At any rate, the part @0:52 where he snaps Akuma out while yelling "get out of there" is just frigging hilarious!
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They will likely end up remixing some of the AA series' tracks, like the "Objection" or "Cornered" pieces that changed in each game. It would be cool if Ben Judd (english voice of Phoenix) could record some new voice samples for this.
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wow, phoenix wright for MvsC 3 owob
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Leaks that are more than likely true. (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=30490847&postcount=12020) The bit about Wright playing like MSHvSF's Norimaro is something that I can see happening. And I kinda figured that Iron Fist's chi manipulation would be integrated into the gameplay; looks pretty interesting. Too bad about Megaman X, though. I'm still hoping for him as DLC, though the fact that DLC depends on UMvC3's sales worries me a bit...
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Oh I can guarantee MMX will be a DLC character. Capcom won't shut up about him, and he'd be a huge seller. Way bigger than Jill and Shuma combined.
Speaking of Jill, I think the buff she needs is for FuRinKaZan to be a level 1 hyper instead of a level 3, cause that's the only time she's good. Maybe make it last a little shorter to compromise, but even then I think that would be a fair trade.
Everything in that post sounds more or less believable. But I'll still wait for the official stuff. If we were to believe everything we heard before UMvC3's announcement, Asura would've been in the game.
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Hmm, these new Tron Bonne colors look interesting:
Tiesel color (http://www.gamespot.com/special_feature/marvelcapcom-breakdown/image-feature/index.html?image=35)
Bon color (http://www.gamespot.com/special_feature/marvelcapcom-breakdown/image-feature/index.html?image=36)
Pink color (http://www.gamespot.com/special_feature/marvelcapcom-breakdown/image-feature/index.html?image=37)
The Bon one is my personal favorite, not just because Bon's my favorite Bonne, but that Sky Blue jacket is pretty stylish! You can also scroll around and look at the others too. Steak-inspired Nemesis...yeah...
Oh I can guarantee MMX will be a DLC character. Capcom won't shut up about him, and he'd be a huge seller. Way bigger than Jill and Shuma combined.
I agree 100%. I've got this suspicion that the only reason Capcom's making really dumb excuses (http://www.complex.com/video-games/2011/08/interviewpreview-ultimate-marvel-vs-capcom-3-is-a-beefed-out-mvc3) is because they're planning X as DLC on the down-low. Nobody makes excuses that dumb unless they're trying to hide something.
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If they do put X in the game, then I still say that when you have X & Zero face off against each other, X vs. ZERO from X5 should play as a bonus.
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It wouldn't be the same any other way, PB.
If they did that, they would HAVE to. Maybe have a bonus stage with that theme of the arena. Or maybe the Eurasia Crash Site as DLC with X.
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A new stage made from scratch in UMvC3? Ha. That's funny.
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I'm just pondering here! It would be awesome, but it's still just meaningless pondering! :P
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Leak is fake.
Im too lazy, so I'll copy and paste reasons why
this guy says having a save file unlocks the MvC3 alternate costumes, but Niitsuma said having a save file unlocks a special mode. This guy isn't even trying.
Also, we know we're getting 4 more stages, but this guy listed 5.
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Niitsuma says a lot of things. And I thought the commercial said there are gonna be 8 new stages.
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Okay, this has to be the most truthfully hilarious thing I've seen in a while!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEvh8uWrji4[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j8kXjB9yqc[/youtube]
Posted on: September 05, 2011, 22:52:30
Vergil and Iron Fist trailers! (http://shoryuken.com/2011/09/14/tgs-2011-vergil/)
Iron Fist looks pretty awesome! Seems like an interesting hybrid of Polimar and Fei Long. And I'm getting a slight Karas vibe from Vergil.
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Agreed on both. I see a bit of Jam in Iron Fist as well.
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Yeah, interestingly enough, Jam was the exact character Iron Fist was compared to in that leak that I posted above. Granted, some parts of said leak are a bit off, but other parts are more or less dead-on.
I have to say, though, I like how UMvC3 is making its characters a lot more distinct than those of Marvel 2. While there will probably be a little imbalance (as all fighters have to some degree or another), a large portion of the cast looks like it'll be usable in competitive play without there being "a better version" of them somewhere higher on the tier list. Everyone seems to be unique in one way or another.
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Something I noticed in all the videos. Vergil always did his level 3 hyper when he was Devil Triggered. Could Devil Trigger be a prerequisite for his level 3, effectively making it a level 4 hyper?
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Some talk about that was going on @SRK too. It seems to be the case, and furthermore his L3 immediately sets his Devil Trigger timer to "0". So it seems that unlike Dante, he actually has to activate his first to do his L3. Seems fair enough, as he has 3 different level 1's as is and they're all pretty good.
Posted on: September 14, 2011, 22:40:57
(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa209/jpn_g2/110915famitsuad-2.jpg)
Oh Capcom, you're so hilarious! Full JP Boxart shot (http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa209/jpn_g2/110915famitsuad.jpg) (and Deadpool would be the only other guy doing it). XD
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(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa209/jpn_g2/110915famitsuad-2.jpg)
Phoenix Wright 'Ultimate Logo' laser attack confirmed.
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http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/716347/ultimate-marvel-vs-capcom-3-will-be-a-playstation-vita-launch-title/
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The JP Box Art is already my wallpaper.
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This is literally one of Zero's win quotes (http://shoryuken.com/forum/index.php?threads/ultimate-marvel-vs-capcom-3-official.141615/page-221#post-5868108) in UMvC3:
If X were here, he would have tried to talk things out first. Unfortunately for you, X isn't here.
Capcom's trolling pretty hard. -u-'
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"http://shoryuken.com/2011/09/20/umvc3-dlc-gameplay-mode-will-change-the-way-you-play/"
Found this online. It mentions they are working on some cool dlc, but it also mentions that they are currently not working on any characters for dlc.
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Looking for new Info on my main characters and I come across this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8Mo6QYbIaE&feature=player_embedded
I really wanted 100,000 more life...but I'll take my Buster Cancel buff instead. :)
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New Zero Costumes (http://www.gamespot.com/special_feature/marvelcapcom-week6/image-feature/index.html?image=8)
(http://image.gamespotcdn.net/gamespot/images/2011/275/umvc3_costumes_621_92287_640screen.jpg)
Yeah, part of me wants to like the MMX armor alt, but that blue hair has just got to go. I'm still surprised that neither Black Zero or Nightmare got in at all. You'd think they'd at least use a costume from the character's source material, but eh. Purple/Vile Zero is pretty stylish, though.
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This is literally one of Zero's win quotes (http://shoryuken.com/forum/index.php?threads/ultimate-marvel-vs-capcom-3-official.141615/page-221#post-5868108) in UMvC3:
Capcom's trolling pretty hard. -u-'
Also known as the "Yes, we really don't want Mega Man in this game" taunt.
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And fans will buy them. Thus making the cycle complete and leaving Capcom execs happy they got rid of that pesky series.
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I was almost sure MMZ Zero would be his DLC costume down the line. Perhaps they'll use Model ZX or Model Z then? Or maybe even Zero.exe?
The removal/alteration of costumes from vanilla MvC3 has pretty much confirmed a few DLC costumes, so with the blue Zero gone, yeah we're getting X. Jean will most undoubtedly get her 90's Jim Lee design. Taskmaster's gray costume, which is supposed to be the Udon Taskmaster, is gone. And Trish doesn't have Gloria colors anymore. There's one other disconfirm besides MMZ Zero; Vergil won't be getting a Nero costume as DLC.
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Except theve constantly denied X being in the game. various times, Or any other megaman. X has topped the polls what, twice or so? And still nothing. I dont think they would go back on their word now. X costume Zero was probably removed in favor of First armor Zero.
To further taunt us.
That MMZ Zero does look spiffy though.
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Except theve constantly denied X being in the game. various times, Or any other megaman. X has topped the polls what, twice or so? And still nothing. I dont think they would go back on their word now. X costume Zero was probably removed in favor of First armor Zero.
Keep in mind that there's never been a "real" disconfirmation. Every time they say 'no', there's always a flimsy excuse behind it that holds no water. As for the polls, they don't guarantee any character to get into the game. It's just fan opinion, nothing more, nothing less. That said, Capcom's totally trolling us, and I personally find it rather hilarious. X (or another character) has a very high chance of being a DLC character. Patience, my friend.
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Except theve constantly denied X being in the game. various times,
Not for DLC. They said that X just barely didn't make it, because of that and the fan demand(/outcry) there's no way X won't be a new character at some point, be it DLC or whatever they call their next edition.
I was almost sure MMZ Zero would be his DLC costume down the line.
The Zero series color means nothing, they could still easily make it his alt.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8Mo6QYbIaE&t=2m24s
"If X were here, he would have tried to talk things out first," "Unfortunately for you, X isn't here."
........
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I think you're reading too much into that quote.
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Not really. But if Capcom really doesn't plan on putting X in the game, then its a bit of a dick taunt.
I mean, Ill certainly be happy if after all the asking for X he DOES get put in, but i'm hesitant to believe they will.
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Agreed, you're reading too much into that win quote. Consider the fact that they swapped X's color for the armor set, for instance. Sure Capcom's trolling, but there's a purpose behind it. X (or at least some version of Megaman) is coming at some point in time.
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I hope so. X is long overdue for his fighting game appearance. :P
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This just in, Zero's DLC alternate costume will be "blue" (https://twitter.com/#!/Ryota_Niitsuma/status/121950610537979904). Man, these guys are S level trolls. XD
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I swear that if what they're hinting is an X alt for Zero then I'll...I...who am I kidding, I'll buy it anyways. I'll be angry while doing it though!
Anyways, best case scenario he actually means MMZ Zero alt with a blue color confirming multiple colors per alt. Worst case scenario X is literally Zero now.
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I swear that if what they're hinting is an X alt for Zero then I'll...I...who am I kidding, I'll buy it anyways. I'll be angry while doing it though!
Anyways, best case scenario he actually means MMZ Zero alt with a blue color confirming multiple colors per alt. Worst case scenario X is literally Zero now.
Which would only ignite a flame war between the more ignorant side of the general Marvel vs Capcom fan community and the Megaman fans who (while going through a lot) will only lower themselves further for a rebuttal.
Ugh, the answer is so simple and [tornado fang]ing everyone from the fans to the developer himself is supporting it, so why not put ol' X in Capcom? XD
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I swear that if what they're hinting is an X alt for Zero then I'll...I...who am I kidding, I'll buy it anyways. I'll be angry while doing it though!
Anyways, best case scenario he actually means MMZ Zero alt with a blue color confirming multiple colors per alt. Worst case scenario X is literally Zero now.
And that's exactly what I've been wondering for the last couple of days. As opposed to X and Zero being separate, X would be an alternate costume. I suppose it is possible that they want to use Classic/Exe, so that they get reps from separate franchises. If that happens I'll understand why, but they'll no doubt make some people salty with that decision. Of course, the "X isn't here" win-quote would look extremely odd if you're playing as an X skinned Zero.
I think at this point all we can do is wait. Capcom's throwing smoke bombs like there's no tomorrow, so we'll have to see how things play out.
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http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2011/oct/06/new-york-comic-con-schedule-umvc3-sfxt-questions/
This page translates Nii-san's tweet as "Well, I saw a spot of blue." Think about that one.
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The idea of Zero getting an X costume is pretty cool, though it'd be kind of weird if it kept Zero's voice.
So yeah, this is kind of old news, but am I the only one unhappy with the nerf to Tron's jumping H? It's really all she had going for her, though the drill buff helps. She was already low/mid tier, I just hope she doesn't fall even lower. She's definitely my favorite character to use.
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It is kind of a bummer, yeah. Especially since Gustaff Fire assist got nerfed too. If it was one or the other I would've been okay, but both might be a bit much. I'm hoping the one buff she got (combo after Bandit Boulder w/o assists) makes up for it.
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It is kind of a bummer, yeah. Especially since Gustaff Fire assist got nerfed too. If it was one or the other I would've been okay, but both might be a bit much. I'm hoping the one buff she got (combo after Bandit Boulder w/o assists) makes up for it.
Well, her drills being completely safe are a huge buff, too. It leaves her at 0 frames to her opponent, which means if you got the other guy trained to be defensive, you can just throw them.
I'm hoping they buffed her other normals to make up for her jumping H nerf, and that nobody's noticed because almost nobody knows how to use her on point without jump H.
Honestly, though, as long as she can still combo after her drills, with faster special moves like people are saying, she'll probably stay around the same tier placement she was, and I'm pretty okay with that.
Really looking forward to trying Ghost Rider and Nemesis, too. Originally I was considering replacing Dormammu on my team with Ghost Rider, but Dorm's getting so many great buffs there's no way I'm not using him.
So I'm thinking Ghost Rider/Firebrand/Nemesis as a backup to my original Tron/Dormammu/Sentinel team, though even then Sentinel might get replaced if I don't need him for Tron's more damaging bread and butters anymore.
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They should just put X in the God damned game. There's the demand for him, and if they feel up to putting a DLC costume of him in, then why not just make the character?
But we'll have to wait and see what they are actually planning, since its all speculation based on comments referring to "glimpses of blue" and a blue DLC costume.
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Honestly, having an X alt for Zero doesn't make a terrible amount of sense, considering they'd fight completely differently. Maybe I'm just being nitpicky. 8U
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I would have really liked an Absolute Zero alternate, or a MMZ styled one. I guess MMZ makes the most sense, catering to both crowds.
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A "spot of blue"? You don't think...
(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090920032937/megaman/images/d/da/AbsoluteZero.jpg)
I suppose that is a really awkward possibility for an alt costume. Seems like it'd be so much bigger than Zero, though.
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naw naw. Capcom would never actually make an AZ alt. that would be too awesome. They would much rather troll with an X alt.
@King P: its not nitpicking, all of Zero's moves are saber based, with his Buster included for good measure.
X would more likely be the other way around. All buster based, with the saber thrown in for good measure.
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Absolute could work if they size it down. They probably wouldn't even clip the wings off. It'd be like Blanka's annoying feathery costume in SSFIV.
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It'd be like Blanka's annoying feathery costume in SSFIV.
Ugh *shudders*
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Man, this is too awesome, and this is coming from a guy who's never played a PW game in his life!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl4UWv4qGIQ&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
More vids! (http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2011/oct/13/phoenix-wright-and-nova-revealed-ultimate-marvel-vs-capcom-3/)
Also, a cryptic Megaman hint (http://shoryuken.com/2011/10/13/umvc3-mega-man-hint-in-trailer-background/) that may or may not mean something.
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While Phoenix is undeniably awesome here, it does irk me that his model is pretty shitty looking. Looks like he was slapped in last minute.
Nova's gameplay looks great, but I have no idea who he is, and his costume is a little lame looking.
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Nova's gameplay looks great, but I have no idea who he is, and his costume is a little lame looking.
(http://blog.newsok.com/nerdage/files/2008/02/nova-4.jpg)
Nova is Richard Rider, the last of the Nova Centurions, and carrier of the Nova Force, one of the biggest powers in the universe.
As the final savior of the cosmos, his job, is to save the universe in a faily basis from cosmic horrors and things that all of the Marvel heroes put together could never handle. He's a cop, and his territory is THE UNIVERSE. He's a hero who NEVER gets stuck in drama, never whines, never lets any of his life get in the way of his job. He handles things professionally, and never fails. And he singlehandedly put together a group with the biggest cosmic badasses in order to face negaverses, cosmic Cthulhus and GALACTUS TRAINS.
(http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/image/Nova_3_dif_creeds.jpg)
As his in-game phrase says, he doesn't have time for this [parasitic bomb]. He has to save the universe.
Also, shame on you because his costume's the most stylish in all of the game.
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Show of hands, who else here thinks that the Metro City Days of Future Past poster is clever as [tornado fang]? XD
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Show of hands, who else here thinks that the Metro City Days of Future Past poster is clever as [tornado fang]? XD
*raises hand*
Yeah, that's seriously a delicious bit of fan-service there. I'm also convinced that Capcom's totally hinting at something with the Megaman bit.
Also, Nova seriously looks fearsome as all get out. An overhead, a fast OTG that hits from nearly full-screen, and really nice movement options make for one dangerous dude.
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(http://blog.newsok.com/nerdage/files/2008/02/nova-4.jpg)
Nova is Richard Rider, the last of the Nova Centurions, and carrier of the Nova Force, one of the biggest powers in the universe.
As the final savior of the cosmos, his job, is to save the universe in a faily basis from cosmic horrors and things that all of the Marvel heroes put together could never handle. He's a cop, and his territory is THE UNIVERSE. He's a hero who NEVER gets stuck in drama, never whines, never lets any of his life get in the way of his job. He handles things professionally, and never fails. And he singlehandedly put together a group with the biggest cosmic badasses in order to face negaverses, cosmic Cthulhus and GALACTUS TRAINS.
(http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/image/Nova_3_dif_creeds.jpg)
As his in-game phrase says, he doesn't have time for this [parasitic bomb]. He has to save the universe.
Also, shame on you because his costume's the most stylish in all of the game.
So it's kind of like Ironman meets Green Lantern? That's pretty cool.
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So it's kind of like Ironman meets Green Lantern? That's pretty cool.
Nope. Iron Man and Green Lantern are drunken dolts who never really go beyond what they can do.
Nova is like Cosmic Superman meets Cosmic Flash. He works on kind-heartedness and because there's nobody else in the universe to do what he does.
Only his boss is a talking russian cosmonaut dog from the Cold War who is a psychic ten times more powerful than Professor X.
(http://comicaddicts2.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/thanos-imperative-devistation-surfer-cosmo.jpg)
Cosmo. The dog.
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*raises hand*
Yeah, that's seriously a delicious bit of fan-service there. I'm also convinced that Capcom's totally hinting at something with the Megaman bit.
Also, Nova seriously looks fearsome as all get out. An overhead, a fast OTG that hits from nearly full-screen, and really nice movement options make for one dangerous dude.
o~O That insists that they cared for Megaman in the first place.
Didn't you hear? Neglecting and mocking the Megaman franchise is the new black these days! At least for Crapcom. B(
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Sure is conspiracy theory in here... Let's just wait and get Capcom's final words on this before people are left with egg on their face.
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Sure is conspiracy theory in here... Let's just wait and get Capcom's final words on this before people are left with egg on their face.
Yeah, I'm being pessimistic, can you blame me? (actually I guess you can)
But seriously, after bad [parasitic bomb] after bad [parasitic bomb] that's been going on for our cherished franchise its kinda hard to see the instigator (which right now is Capcom) just suddenly go "I've changed my mind!" and hope that'll forgive the BS they've been inflicting upon us for a while.
Man that was an oddly worded sentence! I suck at English! owob
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o~O That insists that they cared for Megaman in the first place.
Didn't you hear? Neglecting and mocking the Megaman franchise is the new black these days! At least for Crapcom. B(
*sigh* Here we go again...
Seriously, the only reason you view Capcom as 'mocking' the franchise is because you're viewing the whole situation emotionally. Sure, MML3 got canceled and he's not a current member of the roster, but Megaman is certainly not dead. I mean, Street Fighter went nearly 10 years w/o games at all, and look where they are now.
I've been saying that some form of MM would be DLC since the UMvC3 roster was leaked. The fact that Capcom still won't shut up about him kind of alludes to this, and then we get a poster with Megaman saying that he's still "on the run"? Yeah, he's definitely coming; Capcom throws more smoke than the exhaust pipe of a semi-truck.
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*sigh* Here we go again...
Seriously, the only reason you view Capcom as 'mocking' the franchise is because you're viewing the whole situation emotionally. Sure, MML3 got canceled and he's not a current member of the roster, but Megaman is certainly not dead. I mean, Street Fighter went nearly 10 years w/o games at all, and look where they are now.
I've been saying that some form of MM would be DLC since the UMvC3 roster was leaked. The fact that Capcom still won't shut up about him kind of alludes to this, and then we get a poster with Megaman saying that he's still "on the run"? Yeah, he's definitely coming; Capcom throws more smoke than the exhaust pipe of a semi-truck.
Hmm, you got a point there. Though on the other hand, Capcom is still a company that needs to uphold a decent image, it can be argued that they must have some minimum megaman quota to follow, such as: making references to him and adding characters that originated from the same franchise (Zero, Tron). Also remember that Capcom has never mentioned that ol' Blue will be in the game as a character. Don't forget also that there is a theory that Capcom intends to reboot the franchise, prior to that they possibly intend to have him fade away for a bit before getting a comeback.
And Capcom have been denying that Megaman is popular enough to enter the MvC3 universe, even though he ranked in either #2 or #1 in every poll involving MvC3 character additions. Seems kinda strange for them to deny some that is common knowledge. To me, they are just pointlessly teasing Megaman's appearance, seeing that Zero already has megaman costumes, sorta like Cappy is saying that "here is as close as you'll get to getting megaman in this game".
On a derailing note, I'm listening to Phoenix Wright's grand spanking new remix theme!
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I am wonderfully surprised with Wright. He does look like a joke character, but a lethal joke character. His attacks are humorous, but still effective. The evidence part of his gameplay is intriguing. As is Objection being a power buffer. And having help from Maya, that never even crossed my mind as an option for him. His model does look off at times, yes, but the game is still technically in deveopment. And it makes his level 3 hyper even more hilarious imo.
Nova looks really nice too. No level 3 hyper, but he looks good without it.
I am curious why they've been revealed already, though. I was expecting all four characters to be revealed at the panel on Saturday (which I'm not sure if I can make it to :( ) I guess they wanted some of them playable on the show floor?
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http://www.twitch.tv/capcomunity
Stream's on if anyone's interested. They put a LOT of work into PW's moveset. 0_0
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I watched it.
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Only thing it's missing is the original "Objection" and "Take That" soundclips. And yeah, his model needs work, but at least it's better than the 3DS one.
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Got to try the game today. Wright is certainly fun to watch. I couldn't get the hang of playing as him, though. Couldn't figure out how to switch to the other mode. And it seems to pick up evidence you have to press S and an attack button. Which button you use determines the slot the evidence takes up. On pad, getting that middle slot is kinda difficult (M+S).
Nova I was doing okay with. He's really fun. And the more I hear his theme, the more I love it.
Also got to try Ghost Rider, Hawkeye, and Nemesis. The first two I didn't get to do much with, but Nemesis is a beast.
No DLC character announcement today. Not even reveals for Frank and Raccoon. We got Heroes and Heralds mode, though. The crowd was on fire for that, especially at the end of the video. I don't know if it's on the net yet, but here's a hint: 37. PB, Lou and I were front row for that panel, btw.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfzBAnk09W0
I see what you mean Sato. Holy [parasitic bomb] this is awesome.
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So am I the only one who was really hype for Comic-Con because they thought Rocket Raccoon was going to be revealed with Phoenix Wright?
I mean, yeah, Wright looks cool, but I'm just not as excited for him as I expected to be. Nova looks pretty strong but pretty uh... not bland. But kind of like he's amalgamated the better parts of a bunch of characters. Like he was specially tooled to be a good character with a red-health consumption gimmick thrown in for shiggles.
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http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2011/oct/18/nova-and-phoenix-wrights-costume-colors/
(http://media.eventhubs.com/images/2011/10/18_pwright03.jpg)
ohyes
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Someone commented that the Edgeworth/Mia colors and Godot/Kay colors should swap partners. I agree. Not only does it make sense story wise, the colors match better too. Hopefully they can change that in the few weeks they have left to ship the game. And maybe make the Gumshoe colors look a bit more like Gumshoe. And make Phoenix actually say "Take That!" in his level 3.
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(http://media.eventhubs.com/images/2011/10/18_pwright02.jpg)
(http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc288/Superdee100/hoofd-hoger-phoenix-wright-swizard.png?t=)
Goddamn, I love the Godot color alt for Wright. At the same time, it makes him look a little too sophisticated for someone with his personalty. But it still looks so hella badass.
... And I still think that not having Franziska in this game was a missed opportunity.
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This is something that needs to be shared with the world (around 0:50) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzLILbNCZDk)
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I wonder if you could do enough with that to crash the game from ram overload on the effects.
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You can do that or cause it to turn into a completely green screen.
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(http://image.gamespotcdn.net/gamespot/images/2011/296/umvc3_week9_005_90788_640screen.jpg)
Man, they really went all out for Cap's colors. (http://www.gamespot.com/special_feature/marvelcapcom-week9/image-feature/index.html?image=2) Don't really care for the space-suit variant myself, but all of the others are great!
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So Chris has Chuck Greene colors. I thought that would've been the no brainer choice for Frank's DLC costume. Now I'm hoping Frank gets his new Protoman suit instead.
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DO WANT for Captain. He's one of my primary mains.
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCYhfx3ZaZg&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHTFWFFnre4[/youtube]
Okay, I'm totally maining Rocket Raccoon for the accent alone!
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"Air strike, sucka's! I love the smell of napalm in the morning!"
I want to main Rocket SO bad.
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More vids:
[spoiler][youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP1Sx7ZVd3k&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwcOx8unqyQ&list=LL2xOmL40mJu5INjkod8IIMw&index=1&feature=plpp_video[/youtube][/spoiler]
Yeah, the more I watch RR in action, the more I want to use him. Seems like his health is pretty terrible though, Akuma chipped him out pretty easily. His death yell and win-quote against Chris are comedy gold, though.
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I'm surprised at how different they've made Frank. And Raccoon is a treat to watch.
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Wow they took out real Megabuster, not a fan of that. I figured they would have at least switched it to a Protoman based super.
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Wow they took out real Megabuster, not a fan of that. I figured they would have at least switched it to a Protoman based super.
Hope there's a good reason for that...
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Maybe they were thinking they had enough characters with beam supers and keepaway projectiles and wanted to balance it out with another rushdown character. Though the TvC move I miss the most is the shopping cart projectile.
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Wow they took out real Megabuster, not a fan of that. I figured they would have at least switched it to a Protoman based super.
They're planning on making Blues DLC later on, so it makes sense that they didn't
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Anyone else watching the IPW UMvC3 stream right now? (http://www.twitch.tv/iplaywinner)
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I am. Interesting, even though there ain't a lot of high level stuff.
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Here's are Youtube links for those who missed it (myself included).
Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzAQKztrUXU)
Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBHMk14r5JM)
At around 33:51 you can see that Phoenix Wright's assists are fully invincible in Turnabout mode. That's pretty scary. :o
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Jill and Shuma's alternate costumes (http://www.eventhubs.com/images/2011/nov/09/jill-and-shuma-goraths-alt-costumes-ultimate-marvel-vs-capcom-3/) are packed into the game. No need to wait for these to show up in a DLC pack. I don't know what the hell happened to Shuma there, but hellz yeah tube top Jill. Too bad no one will use her.
Also if you have a vanilla save file on your system, Galactus Mode is unlocked already. If you don't have a save file, you unlock it by getting 30,000PP.
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Too bad no one will use her.
I will.
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Capcom's doing it again...
[spoiler](http://i.imgur.com/DV1FC.jpg)[/spoiler]
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It's an just an ending cameo, just like all the others.
I'm more worried about X supposedly being Zero's alt, and no, this isn't just from that one of Niitsuma's tweets.
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It's an just an ending cameo, just like all the others.
I'm more worried about X supposedly being Zero's alt, and no, this isn't just from that one of Niitsuma's tweets.
At this point, the most likely scenario is Classic MM being DLC and X being Zero's alt. That doesn't bother me at all; while I'd love to see X in the game as a separate character, the route they're taking now kind of gives fans of both characters something to enjoy. That said, if Classic MM is DLC he's gonna need an overhaul in the weapon-switching department. That Eddie nonsense was terrible.
Posted on: November 11, 2011, 11:20:48
Dang, those costumes look sharp!
(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m121/AquaTeamV3/Meganovacorps.png)
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Indeed they do. I wouldn't mind Nova Zero as DLC.
I'm more worried about X supposedly being Zero's alt, and no, this isn't just from that one of Niitsuma's tweets.
What, did someone get the Brady guide early? It supposedly shows everyone's DLC costumes. At least it did for Doctor Strange. Now I'm kinda worried all the costumes are on the disc already.
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They kinda have to be to be pre-order bonuses and for the guide to know them.
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And having them in the guide lets people look at them and decide whether they want to buy them or not. It's pretty much free advertisement on Capcom's part. In other news, people are getting salty about Megaman appearing in Nova's (and Thor's) ending. I thought it was clever above anything else. :/
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People are stupid.
They kinda have to be to be pre-order bonuses and for the guide to know them.
But Doctor Strange's wasn't in a preorder bonus. Seth's tweet was the first time the public's seen that. 3/4 of the cast's costumes are still unknown.
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In other news, people are getting salty about Megaman appearing in Nova's (and Thor's) ending. I thought it was clever above anything else. :/
People are stupid.
Or maybe everyone still remembers both Niitsuma's non-reasons for excluding MM and X (I'm sure that by now, the fanbase has come up with a thousand ways to make those two distinct from the other fighters)?
I dunno. I'm glad that these new cameos aren't of the "becomes horrible and depressing with context" variety, like the Imperfect Future reference, at least. And those ARE some nice Nova costumes. :)
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Or maybe everyone still remembers both Niitsuma's non-reasons for excluding MM and X (I'm sure that by now, the fanbase has come up with a thousand ways to make those two distinct from the other fighters)?
People took Niitsuma's excuses seriously? They were so outlandish that I wrote them off as being a smokescreen for whatever they plan to do with him in the future. I still have a hunch that he'll be a DLC character, and Niitsuma wouldn't let the cat out of the bag before its time. Seeing as I don't own the original MvC3, I wasn't aware that they spliced Megaman into Thor's old ending (I thought it was new):
[spoiler=Vanilla Ending](http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m121/AquaTeamV3/oldthor.png)[/spoiler]
[spoiler=Ultimate Ending](http://i.imgur.com/DV1FC.jpg)[/spoiler]
Yeah, there's definitely some hinting going on here.
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Quick question for everyone... Is Roll a part of the roster yet? Because they could end up just putting her into the game instead, and declare it done...
On the other hand, if they decide to put in Blues over either of the blue ones, then they could say the same thing(declare it done for their Megaman quota), and people like PB would cry out "YEEEEESSS!" over his debut....
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I wasn't aware of the splice, either. But I believe that Niitsuma explicitly stated at one point that MM wouldn't be DLC; there might be some grounds in MM or X getting in anyway in Capcom's backpedaling on Strider Hiryu, but I honestly can't tell if they're hinting at inclusion or just yanking our chains again, and I'm not holding out any hope for the former.
Especially since, you know, that Imperfect Future reference was explicitly stated to not be a hint of any kind.
Is Roll a part of the roster yet?
No.
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I wasn't aware of the splice, either. But I believe that Niitsuma explicitly stated at one point that MM wouldn't be DLC; there might be some grounds in MM or X getting in anyway in Capcom's backpedaling on Strider Hiryu
Niitsuma also said that Yatterman-2 wouldn't be in TvC:UAS, and look what happened there. You've gotta take what he says with a grain of salt, because he does have a tendency to say stuff that isn't necessarily true, and as you said, Capcom can change their mind on a whim.
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Nii-san is a pretty high level troll. He just doesn't look the part like Ono does.
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The only thing I've wondering about is if its gonna be Classic or X at this point. I know a Megaman will happen, it just makes sense. Thing is, I have pulled for X waaaaay harder than I have Classic and thought that was a lock with Niitsuma stating that only X was looked at in the dev process. The Classic spotlight that these endings all have in common however is really putting some serious doubt on that in my mind...
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Niitsuma also said that Yatterman-2 wouldn't be in TvC:UAS, and look what happened there. You've gotta take what he says with a grain of salt, because he does have a tendency to say stuff that isn't necessarily true, and as you said, Capcom can change their mind on a whim.
Wasn't aware they changed their mind on Yatterman-2, either--but then, TvC came out before MM's future was in serious doubt.
So like I said, no goddamned idea. [/broken record] If they do finally give in and include MM or X, they'd better handle them very carefully. Nobody would want them to get in, only to get shafted in some manner (like in, say, the ending).
Nii-san is a pretty high level troll. He just doesn't look the part like Ono does.
That reminds me, was it immediately known that the IF ref. was just a meaningless bit of background?
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The only thing I've wondering about is if its gonna be Classic or X at this point. I know a Megaman will happen, it just makes sense. Thing is, I have pulled for X waaaaay harder than I have Classic and thought that was a lock with Niitsuma stating that only X was looked at in the dev process. The Classic spotlight that these endings all have in common however is really putting some serious doubt on that in my mind...
I thought it would be X initially, but there's a lot of evidence against that now. X is not only a card in the new Heroes and Heralds mode (all of the cards are NPC's), he's also rumored to be Zero's DLC outfit. That pretty much rules him out. As for Classic, the Days of Future Past poster and insertion in Thor's ending kind of hint at him showing up. Really, it makes sense at this point for Classic MM to get in over X, despite the fan demand. With MvC3 being a sequel to MvC2 (as opposed to say, TvC), Classic MM has a history with the series and it would make sense for him to show up a 3rd time. Plus, this allows for more diversity in the MM reps, as you'd now have someone from Classic, X, and Legends. Heck, I'd even wager the Nova ending as a potential hint.
That reminds me, was it immediately known that the IF ref. was just a meaningless bit of background?
I'm still not willing to call the poster a "meaningless cameo" yet, even if a Capcom ref said it was (they wouldn't tell us if it was otherwise). Playing as a character labeled "Apprehended" or "Slain" would be a little odd, especially on that same stage. If Classic MM was DLC, the poster would still be functional, as he's the only one in the game that's "on the run", so to speak.
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As for Classic, the Days of Future Past poster and insertion in Thor's ending kind of hint at him showing up.
I'm sorry if this sounds hostile, but what part of "NOT A HINT" didn't you get? And it wasn't Niitsuma who said that.
(edit: maybe not the best thing to say after it's pointed out to me that Niitsuma is a gigantic troll, but still. Unless I'm wrong and Niitsuma DID say that and it was just relayed to us)
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I know, it was S.K. (though PR people pretty much relay whatever Capcom wants them to say). But let me ask you this, if it was a Megaman hint, would Capcom/Niitsuma really come out in the open and say it?
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But let me ask you this, if it was a Megaman hint, would Capcom/Niitsuma really come out in the open and say it?
Probably not, but didn't a lot of us want X? I think him being a card more-or-less deconfirms his proper inclusion.
I'm sorry, I can't assume that every single denial is a definitive hint, high-level troll or not. I'm disappointed enough with CoJ as is.
edit: Better Nova ending pic, with Roll's face visible. (http://megaman.wikia.com/wiki/File:MegaNova.jpg)
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Here's a better shot of the Mega Nova Corps (you can actually see Roll):
(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111111210725/megaman/images/b/bc/MegaNova.jpg)
Random thought, I'm surprised Duo isn't in on the action. He and Nova practically do the same thing!
EDIT: Got ninja'd by TGG. :P
Probably not, but didn't a lot of us want X? I think him being a card more-or-less deconfirms his proper inclusion.
I'm sorry, I can't assume that every single denial is a definitive hint, high-level troll or not. I'm disappointed enough with CoJ as is.
A lot of fans did want X, but at this point is seems the closest we'll get to X is a skin for Zero. No, it's not the real thing, but if they're really adding Classic MM as DLC having an X skin for Zero is a nice "consolation prize". Granted, people are still going to complain if that scenario comes true, but I think it'll satisfy most fans (myself included).
Posted on: November 11, 2011, 20:24:49
I don't care what everyone else thinks, this is friggin awesome!
[spoiler=Get Ready!](http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/5038/img0834m.jpg)[/spoiler]
EDIT: The same source tells me that Frank's costume is Megaman. Here are the others:
[spoiler=Other alts (not a complete list)]Jon talbain ammy alt
Planet Hulk
Frank as mega man
Zombie Aurther
Ronin Hawkeye
throw back Iron fist
http://www.fightersgeneration.com/np6/char2/taskmaster/taskmaster-mad.jpg
Weapon X wolverine
Casual VJ
trish in a bayonetta fit i believe
She hulk looking classy in a skirt with glasses and here hair up
phoenix in her jean fit.[/spoiler]
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If X is Zero's alt, we'll know as early as next week. Unity is going to do a rundown on all the alternate costumes. They showed today all the official ones; preorder packs, the one pack for vanilla, and Jill and Shuma.
Also Seth's post on Unity showing Strange's alt has been edited. Doesn't show that picture anymore. Instead there's PDFs of the sections of the guide for Strange, Ryu, Wolverine, and Strider. None of the four show the DLC costumes, even though we already know what Ryu's and Strider's are. Shame, I really wanted to see what Logan's was going to be.
Why is no one else WMGing about what everyone's going to get, aside from Zero?
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...so X got reduced to first a card, then an alternate costume for Zero, who some fans feel has been hogging the spotlight for a while.
I know what AquaTeamV3 just said, but I am not amused. At all.
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Here's the rest of them in living color:
http://imageshack.us/g/10/img0842ox.jpg/
EDIT: Average Joe and Scarlet Spider look pretty sweet!
Posted on: November 11, 2011, 21:18:55
Last batch of alts (http://imageshack.us/g/94/img0884tr.jpg/). Frank's got a MMX costume and Tron has a rather cute new Gustaff. I'm loving the Raccoon alt too!
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The more that I look at these alternate DLC costumes, the more that I have come to believe that Zero is wearing X's regular armor, probably with Zero's face instead of X's.
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But Zero can't have X's armor! Frank took it! Though that just won't be the same without Real Mega Buster.
I guessed right on a lot of them: Gloria Trish, average Joe, lawyer She-Hulk, Scarlet Spider, 90's Jean Grey, Final Fight 3 Haggar, and Udon Taskmaster.
Rearmed 1 Spencer is cool, but I was hoping for Rearmed 2. Dat Mustache. No Naruhobo? That is surprising. I guess that means Maya will have a Dahlia costume. I never would've guessed Talbain Amaterasu. And Felicia's is a Battle Circuit reference of all things.
::edit:: http://shoryuken.com/2011/11/11/umvc3-dlc-costume-leaks-are-full-of-fan-service-and-trolling/ (http://shoryuken.com/2011/11/11/umvc3-dlc-costume-leaks-are-full-of-fan-service-and-trolling/) Two Mega Man X's now. The model on Zero actually looks really good. And hell yeah Cablepool.
If you win as "X", I hope they put in a "If Zero was here" winquote. That'd be funny.
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The more that I look at these alternate DLC costumes, the more that I have come to believe that Zero is wearing X's regular armor, probably with Zero's face instead of X's.
*takes a close look* Nope, that's definitely X's own face.
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(http://i.imgur.com/DhGaH.jpg)
omg Felicia's new costume!! <3
Capcom really dug deep into their game library here~ :cookie:
It's Yellow Iris from Battle Circuit! 0v0
(http://i.imgur.com/1UsOr.png) (http://i.imgur.com/GHssw.png)
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(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m121/AquaTeamV3/Meganovacorps.png)
That is [tornado fang]ing awesome!
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Bleh, well that pretty much kills it for X being in the game. Time to root for Megaman.
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How extensive do you guys believe the alt costume to be? Will the name and winquotes change? Will he have a new voice? Can we pick Zero and X together as a team?!!!! These are the burning questions that must be answered!
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Can we pick Zero and X together as a team?!!!!
Nope. I don't think this game allows multiples on the same team.
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How extensive do you guys believe the alt costume to be? Will the name and winquotes change? Will he have a new voice? Can we pick Zero and X together as a team?!!!! These are the burning questions that must be answered!
I know that some characters will have costume-specific dialogue (Iron Patriot is stated to), so that might happen. The name will more than likely stay the same (you are playing as Zero, not X). That said, you won't be able to put them on the same team b/c they're the same character, unless you run Zero (regular costume) and Frank's X alt. People are really over-thinking it; it's a costume, not a new character. :P
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Which is why it should be a new character not a damn costume. People want an X and Zero team. Not Zero dressed as X.
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(http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/5038/img0834m.jpg)
As an alternate costume, seriously?
What a dick move.
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Which is why it should be a new character not a [dang] costume. People want an X and Zero team. Not Zero dressed as X.
But since when is Capcom obligated to add him as a character? We know he's popular and was a character that fans wanted in the game, but Capcom never once said that they were adding him. This is just a nice bit of fanservice for people to enjoy, and really, they didn't even have to give us this. We may be fans, but in no way are we entitled to having whatever dream roster we want in the game. I think people should just be grateful for what we have now, and hope that we might get Classic MM as DLC somewhere down the line.
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Because it's a half assed attempt at pleasing the fans, and its only agitating them more.
ANY verison of MEGA MAN should have been included from the start, before even Zero.
Its simply that with all the [parasitic bomb] going down with Mega Man, its poor timing. People are already upset at the cancellation of 2 Mega Man games due to unspecified "criteria", and the prospect of the one Mega Man game still in development staying Korea exclusive. So they look to MVC3 to add a Mega Man to the game, a character that was in the top few requested, and instead, they give us a costume of the character.
It just stings. Its like they are avoiding using a Mega Man playable character on purpose. And again, dont really give adequate reasons as to why.
You asked about obligation. They dont have an "obligation" to add him. But you would think that they would listen to fan demand. We got Phoenix Wright that way didnt we? by fan demand? So why not Megaman/X due to fan demand? obviously they are open to it. And you would think that adding X would be a good idea to soothe over the fanbase which is still heated over what they consider to be "Capcom killing Megaman" or whatever else thats being said. Especially when Capcom has added other popular characters, except Megaman or X.
TL;DR
People wanted playable X, not a costume swap, and the way Capcom seems to be shafting Mega Man, the actual main character of the franchise, just hurts. Especially since X has never been in a fighting game, and has been so damn requested.
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So to understand you correctly, we can't use MM in any form or make any references (other than as a playable character) without pissing some folks off?
I think you need thicker skin. I'd also think as a fan, you should like to see any/all exposure for MM to raise awareness for the brand in any form, even if you personally aren't satisfied by the execution.
Sven wants everyone who's angered at/disappointed with alt-X to shut up. (Ganked from someone PRC who quoted that; should be somewhere on Unity)
I'm just going to go over to some corner and pray that MM' 25th anniversary doesn't get shafted in favour of Street Fighter's.
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Putting my head on the chopping block here, but people, please, SHUT THE HELL UP ABOUT X ALREADY!!! Complaining about it over and over and over again isn't going to make Capcom actually put him into the game! All it's doing is pissing off the more open-minded people with short tempers (or just wears on their nerves for those who are more even-tempered).
And now, before I get sucked into the complaining any more than I have, I'll be on my merry way. *walks off to demolish a wall with face*
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Putting my head on the chopping block here, but people, please, SHUT THE HELL UP ABOUT X ALREADY!!! Complaining about it over and over and over again isn't going to make Capcom actually put him into the game! All it's doing is pissing off the more open-minded people with short tempers (or just wears on their nerves for those who are more even-tempered).
And now, before I get sucked into the complaining any more than I have, I'll be on my merry way. *walks off to demolish a wall with face*
First Off: Ow. Crushing your head over some interwebz controversy won’t stop it from existing.
Second Off: How did you get to increase the font of your words like - *looks at interface* - ohhh, nevermind!
Third Off: Forgetting about the recent problems Megaman is having is exactly what Capcom wants us to do. Cancelling his two high profile games was something Capcom did so to start his franchise over as if it was getting stale. However it is not stale; us fans know more than ever that he was doing well up until August (since the cancellation of the game-that-everyone-knows). The recents choices CC made to remedy their “mistakes” is intentional to ensure the MM fanbase can shut up and other gamers would shrug off the issues. Yet I feel that we should continue to recall these events so to tell CC that their half-assed attempts to do the MM fanbase justice is not enough, at least not until they agree to our terms (which really isn’t that hard to achieve. I mean, you can make a model of Megaman in UMvC3, so why not make a character around him? Also, Capcom, if you’re complaining that MM hasn’t been in good games lately and/or his games aren’t selling well, here’s a thought: either put him in a good game or start ADVERTISING BETTER!!).
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One thing is not forget about what Capcom did to Megaman, and other thing is to bash every single thing they make because of that. Seriously, if you guys really care about this, then don't [tornado fang]ing buy the game, the only way to talk to Capcom is with your wallet.
I really would have liked to see X in the game, but the fact that they have 2 characters from the franchise should be good enough, they could have easily given the finger to Zero and Tron if they wanted to, and you all would still buy the game anyway.
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Except the wallet approach has no impact here. This isnt DMC, where the majority are upset at the direction of the game. This is a small crowd out of the MVC fanbase, complaining about a character. Everyone else who doesnt care, will still buy the game because its MVC. Vocalization is the only thing fans can do here. Besides, we can complain about it all we want. Its true. Megaman has been treated like [parasitic bomb] recently within capcom. Two games cancelled, one Korea exclusive, and a top requested character inexplicably shafted from a game series he was an original member of.
The worst part is that we barely have explanations for any of that.
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If the crowd were as small as you say (which I don't think it is from the shitstorm I saw after the Legends cancelation), then X wouldn't have gotten within the most wanted characters for the game, so not buying the game would probably hurt them more than just bitching over a forum.
And well, if it IS that small, then complaining isn't gonna make a difference anyway. Why would they add a character just to please a small group of players? Capcom is a company, and they need money to survive.
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Koi is absolutely right. If you're going to protest the fact that you find what they are doing appalling, then speak with your money not with your voice, cause if you judge by the fact that he was the most requested character to be playable in this game and he's not, they are not listening to your voice anyway. Personally, I find the fact that people really are buying a $40 expansion pack after the same people just spent $60 on the previous, now pretty much unplayable game more Capcomically offensive than X not being a character in the game.
Having said that though, again this is the price Capcom pays for pissing on their customers like this regarding MML3. To be honest, nothing is going to help. Even if X was put into this game, there would still be MM fans out there bitching that all MM is anymore is a fighting game cameo appearance and would still be clamoring for MML3. They are in the ultimate lose-lose situation, and it's one of their own making. This is what happens when a business treats its customers like [parasitic bomb] and offer nothing for compensation. Honestly, I don't think anything will help them other than releasing MML3 at this point, and even then it might even be too late.
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Oh I'm definitely voting with my wallet (in a "not buying any alts" way, I need the game itself...). While what you say is true, PB, I'm sure that having X as an actual character (or at least not as just a costume) would've definitely helped them.
Personally, I'm just getting really annoyed that if there's ANYTHING Megaman related in something these days, a lot of people (mostly ones that aren't even MM fans too) rush in to say "lololololol Capcom trolling MM fans".
Me:"Oh hey there's a Classic MM cameo in the Days of Future Past stage. Neat"
Everyone else: "Troooooooooooooooooll"
Me: "That X card in H&H mode looks pretty cool."
Everyone else: "Troooooooooooooooooll"
Me: "Ok, Mega Nova Corps actually sounds and looks awe-"
Everyone else: "Troooooooooooooooooll"
Me:"..."
(No, I don't see X alt costume as a troll, I see it as a really stupid decision)
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They say troll, because that's how it feels. there's a [parasitic bomb] ton of Mega Man cameos, but no Mega Man hisself. It's as if they were shoving it in our faces, saying "HEY YOU WANTED MEGA MAN? HAHA, HERE, HAVE MORE CAMEOS INSTEAD AND BE REMINDED OF THE FACT THAT HE'S NOT IN THIS GAME!"
Similarly for X.
Also, oh im definitely not buying the game, Money's scarce, and I have to pick and choose when it comes to my games these days. Can't just buy both A and B.
The whole way they've handled it with these "versions" and [parasitic bomb] is just terrible. They basically sold what amounts to a beta for 60$, and now want to release the "full" game, for a slightly reduced price so's to say "Sorry bout that." They should have just waited, and released UMvC3 as MvC3...
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They say troll, because that's how it feels.
True, but I'm talking mostly about the people that don't actually care and just go "lol Capcom is trolling the MM fans again" at every chance they get.
Besides, I definitely get it for something like the X alt, that HURTS, but for a stage/ending cameo? Come on =/
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I mostly dont pay attention too much to the people who dont really care and are like OLOLOL CAPCOM IS TROLLING THE MM FANS
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Putting my head on the chopping block here, but people, please, SHUT THE HELL UP ABOUT X ALREADY!!! Complaining about it over and over and over again isn't going to make Capcom actually put him into the game! All it's doing is pissing off the more open-minded people with short tempers (or just wears on their nerves for those who are more even-tempered).
And now, before I get sucked into the complaining any more than I have, I'll be on my merry way. *walks off to demolish a wall with face*
I'm just quoting to point out the hypocrisy of this post. You're telling us to stop complaining about X by complaining about them.
I'm just sayin', it's a two-way thing.
Also, what would the industry be without lack of fan input (regardless of whether or not the company pays attention and/or cares)?
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but for a stage/ending cameo? Come on =/
I think everyone who knew the context behind the Imperfect Future ref. was rightfully angered...
The whole way they've handled it with these "versions" and [parasitic bomb] is just terrible. They basically sold what amounts to a beta for 60$, and now want to release the "full" game, for a slightly reduced price so's to say "Sorry bout that." They should have just waited, and released UMvC3 as MvC3...
Supposedly, CoJ was going to release all the UMvC3 stuff as DLC, but then the earthquake hit, and they had to put UMvC3 on a disc to recoup losses, or something. It's a plausible explanation...buuuuuut CoJ has outright lied to us several times now, right? So who knows.
And I'm sorry if posting that quote was what led to Sapphire's post. D:
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I think everyone who knew the context behind the Imperfect Future ref. was rightfully angered...
A bad future in which Sentinels have killed most mutants MvC2 characters, and of the ones in the current "wanted" list, Megaman is the only one that hasn't been captured/killed.
I still feel you guys overreacted about that, and in a way trolled yourselves if you thought that that was something than just a reference. Hell, I bet that if MM had been one of the characters with a "slain" caption on him, many would be calling that a troll and use it as "evidence" for Capcom not wanting anything to do with Megaman anymore.
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Also, what would the industry be without lack of fan input (regardless of whether or not the company pays attention and/or cares)?
But this isn't a matter of fan input, this is just mindless complaining. The game still works as it should without the need of adding X into the game.
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A bad future in which Sentinels have killed most mutants MvC2 characters, and of the ones in the current "wanted" list, Megaman is the only one that hasn't been captured/killed.
But see, Mega took Wolverine's spot. On the plus side, no "apprehended/slain" mark. On the downside, Wolverine DIED at the end of the original story. So Mega's as good as slain anyway.
and in a way trolled yourselves if you thought that that was something than just a reference.
Over at PRC, at least, it was not immediately known to just be a reference. And I believe whoever told us that also said they stuck it in knowing full well we'd think there was more to it.
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Over at PRC, at least, it was not immediately known to just be a reference.
...it's a background cameo ffs.
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Satoryu/ideserve.jpg)
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You know, between NeoGAF, Shoryuken & here, I think I've gotten more than a bit tired of this entire episode regarding Megaman. At this point, both sides of the situation are floundering between mildly irritating and grossly obnoxious and neither side looking at the other and admitting that they may have a point or two is just ugh.
Why Capcom just can't say [tornado fang] it, put X (or thanks to the extra hints and fanservice in Ultimate, Classic) in and call it done is beyond me now. I put my support behind X in the venues that were open to us fans, but Capcom had other plans. It's cool though, because in this era of DLC providing more for games down the road, Capcom can't hang on to ol' blue for too long, especially knowing the numbers his inclusion would bring. It's better to just enjoy the game and its 50 other current characters with that in mind. The game isn't fundamentally broken or destroyed because of one character omission.
TL;DR
Am I disappointed that X hasn't made it in as a playable character despite all the teases and hints? Yes.
Am I disappointed about Capcom's treatment of the franchise lately? Yes.
Will I get all vitriolic and attempt to downplay unrelated (or mostly unrelated) Capcom offerings because of my feelings on a franchise not getting the support it "deserves"? Nope. Ultimate Marvel VS. Capcom 3 will still be a good game, Capcom is more than just Megaman, even if it makes a large part of what I like from their output and the roster will just lack a character I like. For someone like me who is a hopeless StarTropics fan waiting for Mike Jones to be in a Smash game, I think that's not so bad. :P
Just for one last note, this isn't saying that Capcom isn't [tornado fang]'d up as all hell to do all of this without some form of condolence from the initial fallout of MML3. It's a bad circumstance they found themselves snowballed into after remaining so mum on the subject and one that could have been solved with a good bit of PR or something detailing their thoughts and plans on the franchise for closure's sake. Letting the internet monster turn this into "Capcom Hates MM Fans" and letting those rightfully embittered fans clash with Capcom fans who don't understand what it means since their franchises are OK was the worst thing that came from this.
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(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltovvsKyVH1qafrh6.png)
...I was looking for an appropiate reaction image and it was Marvel related, ok?
Anyways, as usual, someone writes my feelings better than I do.
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And I'm sorry if posting that quote was what led to Sapphire's post. D:
It wasn't. Like the people I complained about, I am pissed about the lack of actual X inclusion, and people constantly bitching about it only makes it worse, ya know. I was also in a particularly bad mood at the time I made that post. It was just timing.
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Alright.
...to be perfectly honest, I'm not sure what else to discuss at the moment. :/
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SO.
How bout that Ghost Rider huh?
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Well, the win pose shots are in high-res downloadable zip files (http://www.global-trance.com/ultimate/), so you can see all of the alts close up.
[spoiler=X](http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m121/AquaTeamV3/r_zero07_bm_nomip360_r_zero07_bm_nomip360out.png)[/spoiler]
It may not be the real thing, but it's a pretty nice model nonetheless.
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Certainly nice. Still makes me wonder why they are going out of their way to keep him from being his own character. But... Nice nonetheless.
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(http://i42.tinypic.com/n1ospk.jpg)(http://i43.tinypic.com/o0ux49.jpg)(http://i43.tinypic.com/dc965c.jpg)
*sigh* Never being able to see my win screen like this depresses me more than it should.
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Certainly nice. Still makes me wonder why they are going out of their way to keep him from being his own character. But... Nice nonetheless.
I'm still sticking to my theory of Classic MM as DLC. It kinda makes sense in a way, given his previous history with the Marvel series. I can see X getting into a different crossover, but Classic kinda has a history with Marvel.
Also, I miss Ken :'(
[spoiler](http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m121/AquaTeamV3/r_ryu04_bm_nomip360_r_ryu04_bm_nomip360out.png)[/spoiler]
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It's nice seeing 90s Jean Grey again (I always preferred the costumes from that era, or at least the cartoon).
Still makes me wonder why they are going out of their way to keep him from being his own character.
Knowing Niitsuma, the explanation for it will be complete bullshit.
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What kinda team is everyone running? Right now I'm thinking of Dante (Jam Session)/Vergil (Rapid Slash)/Morrigan (Dark Harmonizer). I also have an idea brewing with Felicia (Rolling Buckler) either going second or anchoring. The basic idea of the team is to have everyone work to build meter for Vergil with whatever position their at. Dante does this best on point by forcing ToD threats, mixing up constantly with teleport shenanigans and being the loveable devil hunting swiss army knife he is. In the case of the team with Morrigan, liberal calls of Morrigan's Dark Harmonizer assist with its quick startup and recovery adds a third of a meter fairly frequently while he's in play to keep me playing with his Summoned Sword formations. (Crown of Swords is the sickest [parasitic bomb] ever.)
In the case that Dante & Verg both get KO'd, Morrigan comes in to play with a good stock of unburnt meter from those liberal calls I made and cleans up between playing Gradius with Astral Vision fireballs, X Factor if I didn't blow it already on Vergil's "Nelo Angelo" Lvl. 4 for a one hit KO, and just being that sexy succubus she's so good at being.
With the Felicia variant of this team, she plays either anchor or second in order to build more meter via dispatching a team or her d,d+H Meter Charge. She has good synergy with the rest of the team, creating strong left-right mixups with her Cat Crawl and calling Vergil's Rapid Slash assist and the "hard-to-block"-able with Dante's high attacks and her Rolling Buckler assist sounds too dirty not to try and use well. In the other variant of this team, she goes on as anchor to fully abuse X Factor and cause many rage quits via Dark Felicia Rising.
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Anyone else kinda wish Hsien-Ko was Vampire Saviour good? Like seriously, I've been playing a lot of that lately and I hate that MVC3 Hsien isn't anywhere near the same league.
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That X alt is way too [tornado fang]ing good. Also I feel like people buy into the "if there's an alt, character isn't happening" train of thought too much with this game. Niitsuma's been rallying behind X hard from way before Vanilla MVC3 and X was with Gene from Godhand as one of the last characters that got dropped in the final pool of characters for Ultimate. The only thing throwing a wrench in the plan is the multiple Classic Mega Man shoutouts in Ultimate between the Days of Future Past poster, Nova's Ending, and Thor's retconned ending.
X alt should become a full character and Zero should get a Megaman Zero alt. Him not getting that is the biggest injustice here.
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Yeah, personally I'm hoping the X alt is secretly their way of starting some work already on Pringles Edition, and then Zero gets his MMZ alt and X becomes a full character with his MMX looks as an alt.
As for my team, I'm hoping for Phoenix Wright (Press the witness)/Amaterasu (Cold Star)/Rocket Raccoon (Log Trap). I really want to play Nick, and I'm never dropping Ammy (she also goes with everything!). Rocket looks fun and should provide all the cover Nick needs while looking for evidence, and if the assist should ever hit while I'm looking for an objection then I just got one for free!
Anyone else kinda wish Hsien-Ko was Vampire Saviour good? Like seriously, I've been playing a lot of that lately and I hate that MVC3 Hsien isn't anywhere near the same league.
Are you kidding? I'm sure everyone does, MvC3 Hsien-Ko is just depressing :(
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I'm planning on getting a PS3 & UMvC3 within the next few weeks. I know I'm running Zero/User/Assist (playing to win here lol), but of course I need those last 2 spots filled. I'll probably find out what works as I experiment with the game; I know that Iron Fist's kick assist looks pretty good as it's fast and causes a wall-bounce. From what I know he's a ground-based fighter who has problems getting in on people, but is devastating when he does. Rocket also looks really fun and his double-shot assist will help me out in the mixup/lockdown area.
From what I'm reading on SRK, UMvC3 is less about TOD combos (sayonara DHC glitch) and more about resets and mixups. Meter builds slower too as compared to Vanilla, which further degrades that. I'm hearing that most characters in the game are pretty much usable, save for Tron and Hsien-Ko, though even then they might have some new, un-discovered tech.
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Also I feel like people buy into the "if there's an alt, character isn't happening" train of thought too much with this game.
I can't speak for everyone else, but I dunno why they'd bother putting X in separately if Capcom apparently feels he plays so similarly to Zero (Maverick weapons, dammit, there's gotta be something to work with there).
MAYBE it's just some elaborate "we'l give these characters each other as alts so people can sorta pick how they want these guys to play" setup...but that's highly unlikely, and they could just have X's alt. be his CM armour or something instead.
X alt should become a full character and Zero should get a Megaman Zero alt. Him not getting that is the biggest injustice here.
Someone on TMMN suggested Zero.EXE; I think they'd be similar enough to avoid geometry-induced bugs (or something) and the buster issue (maybe?). I wouldn't mind an original alt, myself, but that's just me.
Since I don't have a PS3 or 360, I can't really discuss teams. I did try Tron/Sentinel/Hsien-Ko on regular MvC3 the other day, at a con--the other fellow wiped the floor with me. :(
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What if we got Classic MM with the X alt? how would you guys feel about that? (although Classic would be better suited to a Protoman Alt)
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Tron has some new stuff guaranteed between new karas for her grabs and Beacon Bomb rapid fires. She was always decent, just no one beyond like PR Balrog and Flash Metroid bothered with her beyond her Gustaff Flame assist.
Any character that can control JEEEEEEAN as well as she does is sleeper at worst. XD
What if we got Classic MM with the X alt? how would you guys feel about that? (although Classic would be better suited to a Protoman Alt)
Same level of "aw man, why" as the Zero as X alt. Reason? X's Command Mission look.
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I thought Jean ate her alive, but yeah, she's underrated (dat infinite).
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I'm honestly considering picking up Ryu (in Ken garb) as my second spot (User). Capcom has taken him to new heights with all of the toys he's been given to play with:
[spoiler][youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi45o6W7y7U[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcaozKl5KW0&feature=watch_response[/youtube][/spoiler]
I thought Jean ate her alive, but yeah, she's underrated (dat infinite).
Too bad it got patched in UMvC3. I might try her out, but I honestly don't think she can do too much on point, and her assist game isn't what it used to be. Then again, her drill assist may be worth something, so we'll see.
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I can't speak for everyone else, but I dunno why they'd bother putting X in separately if Capcom apparently feels he plays so similarly to Zero (Maverick weapons, dammit, there's gotta be something to work with there).
Soul Body/Rolling Sheild/Tornado Fang/Silk Shot/Tri-Thunder/Meteor Rain/Sniper Missile/Shining Ray combo anyone? :3
Are you kidding? I'm sure everyone does, MvC3 Hsien-Ko is just depressing :(
Kinda played Hisen-Ko on Chaos Tower with Vampire Saviour mechanics turned on she was fun to use.
I'm thinking of a good rage-quitting team, possibly that locks opponents into an near-infinite combo, then finishing it with a Lv4 super. I was thinking about having Zero doing the job with the combos, with Wright as the finisher. Thinking about having Dr. Strange providing backup in case one of them gets K'Oed.
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I wanted to try Morrigan a bit more in vanilla, but never got the chance. I'd like to try again in Ultimate. The air dash nerf doesn't scare me. If she doesn't work, Nova seemed to be a good candidate for a long range character. That was the biggest problem with my teams. None of my middlemen worked, and they're all getting toned down a bit. I don't know if Tron is going anywhere on my team. Maybe she won't be anchor anymore because of nerfed Gustaff Fire assist, but she was the only heavy character that kinda clicked with me. And her buffs definitely intrigue me. If not, I can definitely use Nemesis for the first few days. He's going to be like Sentinel; ripping everyone apart early on, but it won't take long for everyone to stop falling for it. I might want to try Hulk a bit too. And safe to say Zero ain't going anywhere either. Even if he dresses like X.
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Too bad it got patched in UMvC3.
You mean the TK drill infinite that wasn't really talked about much nor uploaded to youtube to, in the words of the one that discovered it/did the video I don't remember, avoid having Capcom know about it so that they wouldn't take it away, or another one?
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As far as anchors go, I've thought about Storm. Hail Storm XX L3XF Hail Storm is going to do some nice end-game damage no matter who you are. From what I'm hearing she's been buffed pretty nicely, too.
You mean the TK drill infinite that wasn't really talked about much nor uploaded to youtube to, in the words of the one that discovered it/did the video I don't remember, avoid having Capcom know about it so that they wouldn't take it away, or another one?
That's the one!
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I still need to actually learn how to use Spidey! 8D
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My Tron comment was a not so subtle reference to both PR Rog's Hail Mary command grab KO vs. Viscant at EVO finals and the glitch that makes the assist version of Bonne Strike drill KO Phoenix during her transformation. :P
As for teams, I have a lot of them to try out:
Main: Dante/Vergil/Morrigan - Alt: Dante/Felicia/Vergil
Secondary: Dr. Strange/Dormammu/Firebrand
Third: Strider/Ameterasu/??? (Potentially Zero, Dr. Doom or Chun Li)
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My Tron comment was a not so subtle reference to both PR Rog's Hail Mary command grab KO vs. Viscant at EVO finals and the glitch that makes the assist version of Bonne Strike drill KO Phoenix during her transformation. :P
I know you probably did, but I was being serious =P
That's the one!
Really? When did they confirm that?
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Maybe I should've noticed something was off if we already had those victory shots ripped, but according to this (http://www.rockmancorner.com/2011/11/closer-look-at-ultimate-mvc3s-mega-man.html), the extra costumes are ON-DISC DLC.
Apparently new DLC hasn't been ruled out just yet...but the idea of being forced to pay for something twice really, REALLY pisses me off, and might be just as rage-inducing as Not X.
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Maybe I should've noticed something was off if we already had those victory shots ripped, but according to this (http://www.rockmancorner.com/2011/11/closer-look-at-ultimate-mvc3s-mega-man.html), the extra costumes are ON-DISC DLC.
This one of those "you should've seen it coming already" things. All of them being shown on the guide should've been the only hint for this you needed. Besides, they've been working on them since the original, it makes sense that they are. At least you get 2 for free if you get Jill and Shuma...which are and were on-disc dlc themselves already.
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This one of those "you should've seen it coming already" things. All of them being shown on the guide should've been the only hint for this you needed.
Yeah, well, I'm an idiot.
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Really? When did they confirm that?
It's in the Capcom Changelog (http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2011/oct/27/ultimate-marvel-vs-capcom-3-official-changelog-capcom-side-only/).
"Untechable time from Air Bonne Strike decreases with combo length."
Posted on: November 14, 2011, 08:42:34
Not sure how many of you watch Max's Marvel 3 vids, but around 20:20 in this one the conversation turns to Megaman, and they do throw around some interesting ideas:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noNa8ZqkyZU[/youtube]
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Since the original link to the victory packs removed everything, here's a mirror. ^^ (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/mvc3ultimate/)
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That's awesome of you :D
Who's gonna get this tomorrow on 360? I want to kick your asses again =P
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I'll have the game but no 360 until much later on at this rate. XD
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I have to get a version that plays on NTSC-J 360, but I think PlayAsia has an affordable one. XD
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As big of a fighting game fan as I am, I don't think I'm sold on this still. I might actually just skip it.
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I just tried out Galactus mode. It's very silly.
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Haha, have you guys seen this?
http://www.g4tv.com/games/xbox-360/65671/ultimate-marvel-vs-capcom-3/review/
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Oh wow, the article was actually written by Clockw0rk. Still holding out for Classic MM as DLC...
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The game is now in my hands. See you guys online!
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Dang, I won't have this in my hands until around early December. :/ Oh well, I'll have the strategy guide to tie me over until then!
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Haha, there's a tournament for this game at my comic book shop on Saturday!
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Wow these achievments are demanding. If you don't buy Jill and Shuma, you have to complete every single mission. Now I was able to do everyone's first 7 no problem, and I was able to do all 10 of Hulk's, but these missions seem much tougher than vanilla's. Compound that with all the time requirement ones, and the 5 ranked wins in a row (unless I can grind it out with someone), I think I might skip the 100% achievements this time. I'll do what I can though. I'll get all the endings and artwork and such for sure.
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Saw the complete list for the character costume DLC. I must say I just might have to get Jim Lee's Jean Grey. Also looks like (if they decide to do it) there will be no character DLC till at least sometime after March.
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Saw the complete list for the character costume DLC. I must say I just might have to get Jim Lee's Jean Grey. Also looks like (if they decide to do it) there will be no character DLC till at least sometime after March.
I heard a rumor a couple of days ago that there would be 4 new DLC characters by the end of the year, and one of them was a member of the X-Men. While a little questionable, it's something that I could see happening.
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So I was at the New York comic con when they announced the heroes and heralds mode, and while they explained it to us I saw X on one of the cards. I turned to PB and told him, "Damn it X is a card probably means he won't be a character in the game now". Then later on we find out that X is just a skin for Zero. I shake it off and hope for MegaMan. Well now that is out the window too. Someone was able able to rip the images for the cards right off the DVD and there is MegaMan. Mind you if that is the complete set then none of the cards included have any of the current characters on them (Ryu, Cap, Morrigan, Etc).
http://shoryuken.com/2011/11/19/heroes-and-heralds-cards-ripped-from-umvc3-disc/ (http://shoryuken.com/2011/11/19/heroes-and-heralds-cards-ripped-from-umvc3-disc/)
Now if that's how they did it and characters that are not going to be in the game are cards then I guess I can hope for Trigger or Exe at this point. Well technically PB and I can still hope for Protoman since he wasn't a card, hell maybe even get Roll back.
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Also Vent, Aile, and Geo, even if they are a bit more obscure.
But looking at true post-development DLC (not this unlock-flag stuff that Capcom usually pulls), I don't think the rule-out logic holds. I mean, all characters on the game disc were long since revealed, right? (victory images have been file-ripped) So they decide to use NPCs for their cards, which is in itself a matter of variety to the presentation and not of necessity. So what about that stops them from revisiting a character who appeared on the cards? X is already bending that "rule" anyway seeings how he is both a card and a character skin.
Speaking of which, am I the only one on the internet who realizes that X's varying armors make visual distinction from Zero's alternate skin a complete nonissue? Yeah, just (http://www.themmnetwork.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=152&pid=2586#top_display_media) throwing that (http://www.themmnetwork.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=152&pid=2594#top_display_media) out there (http://www.themmnetwork.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=152&pid=2494#top_display_media). I'm not saying they'll do it, but I am saying that the so-called fans are foolish to give up so easily. X went from the top of the polls to "ruined forever" for absolutely no reason, and we wonder why Capcom doesn't believe in the Mega Man fanbase.
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I swear, the internet is too hung up on this "character referenced in game = not joining the roster" and it's really silly. Especially now in the day of DLC and companies going for whatever can make them the fastest buck/fan demand backing this up.
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X went from the top of the polls to "ruined forever" for absolutely no reason, and we wonder why Capcom doesn't believe in the Mega Man fanbase.
It's not okay to feel that X getting reduced to his pal's alt. was severe half-assing at best? (And "absolutely no reason"? Seriously? There's already been quite a few reasons that don't amount to endless whining)
Between that (good points raised in favour of an NPC becoming playable aside) and rumours that some form of MM will be playable in SFxT (Lupinko's "blue hobo" hint is not encouraging in the slightest), I sincerely doubt MM will ever see the light of UMvC3.
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I swear, the internet is too hung up on this "character referenced in game = not joining the roster" and it's really silly. Especially now in the day of DLC and companies going for whatever can make them the fastest buck/fan demand backing this up.
Yeah, that annoys me too. Background and ending cameos, references, colors for someone else, and a card are one thing though, but making that character an entire new model only to use it as a costume for a totally different character? That's soul crushing. I'm not saying X's chances are 0, but I'd be lying if I said they don't feel like it.
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It's not okay to feel that X getting reduced to his pal's alt. was severe half-assing at best? (And "absolutely no reason"? Seriously? There's already been quite a few reasons that don't amount to endless whining)
Between that (good points raised in favour of an NPC becoming playable aside) and rumours that some form of MM will be playable in SFxT (Lupinko's "blue hobo" hint is not encouraging in the slightest), I sincerely doubt MM will ever see the light of UMvC3.
I'm not saying they should be content, I'm saying they gave up too easily. The vast majority of people who want X in the game no longer believe it to be possible, solely because his unarmored form is Zero's alternate (and Frank's, but nobody cares there due to the more derivative nature). Seeing that kind of lack of imagination among X's so-called fans is sickening to me. I cannot describe in words how much I would love to see either Command Mission or X1 Full Armor X as a DLC character just to watch the eggs rot on their faces. It may be unlikely, but disregarding the authors for one moment and speaking solely in the context of the game's structure, there's no reason it couldn't happen.
If people really want X, then as long as DLC additions are still on the table, they should be continuing to push for him. Instead, they're content to throw their arms in the air and walk away, because every reference to him is one more reason he was "ruled out" in their own minds. It's pathetic. For X's own fans to be so disloyal to him, it will only convince Capcom that they are not worth listening to.
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I'd be more inclined to think that many of the people who went "oh well, better than nothing" were the ones who gave up; I saw more than a few "this is how you make X distinct from Zero" comments.
Honestly, I'm not sure what good continuing to push for X's proper inclusion in UMvC3 will do, if all it amounted to was an alt. It's possible we might get something better next time, but those chances aren't looking too good--especially if one of the PR guys told us to be happy with what we got (yeah, PR, but still). That would discourage anyone, I'd think.
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Thing is at this point, no one has explicitly stated that being referenced in this game via alt or card is a strict de-confirmation of any appearances down the road, especially when DLC is still being planned and discussed with the catch of being tied to initial game sales.
All this means is that people should chill and get ready for when that happens to show support when the right venue comes up instead of gushing about everywhere unrelated and giving the net a bad impression of the fandom.
On another note, the biggest reason I back X over any incarnation of Megaman at this point is because in the gameplay engine they have going here, he would really shine between his mobility, weapons, and chargeable weapons being a mechanic. I should link to a move set I scrub theorized together just to give ideas of how versatile the character could be in the game. Check it out. (http://shoryuken.com/forum/index.php?threads/ultimate-marvel-vs-capcom-3-official.141615/page-455#post-6010519) The only other stand alone Megaman that comes close to his potential alone is Megaman.EXE.
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I swear, the internet is too hung up on this "character referenced in game = not joining the roster" and it's really silly. Especially now in the day of DLC and companies going for whatever can make them the fastest buck/fan demand backing this up.
They're hung up on X more than anything, and again Capcom has no one to blame but themselves. I've said it before and I'll say it again, that's what happens when you treat your customers like utter [parasitic bomb] and offer no compensation. Hahahaha, and as for "companies going for whatever can make them the fastest buck/fan demand backing this up," please see below...
It may be unlikely, but disregarding the authors for one moment and speaking solely in the context of the game's structure, there's no reason it couldn't happen.
If people really want X, then as long as DLC additions are still on the table, they should be continuing to push for him. Instead, they're content to throw their arms in the air and walk away, because every reference to him is one more reason he was "ruled out" in their own minds. It's pathetic. For X's own fans to be so disloyal to him, it will only convince Capcom that they are not worth listening to.
LOL! If by "disregarding the authors for one moment and speaking solely in the context of the game's structure" you mean "ignore the fact that Capcom ignored the DLC in the original $60 dollar game and forced their customers to buy a brand new $40 Expansion pack which in turn made said $60 purchase 100% useless" I'll be honest....I personally find that kinda hard to disregard. But that's just me.
I mean honestly, what about this MVC3 series gives you any sense of hope or reason it could happen? The very game itself is almost concrete, Phoenix Wright-able evidence that they have 0% interest in utilizing their DLC system. They charge $60 for the bare-minimum'd first game, ignored the game's structure, then made that very purchase obsolete by releasing this version of it. Realistically, what that shows is that the only chance of seeing X or any other MM character in a MvC3 fighting game is if they release another brand new $40 game and make UMvC3 useless. I mean, they've already stated that they have no plans at this moment to utilize DLC for characters at this time. Again, not concrete evidence but considering UMvC3 itself, it's pretty clear that Capcom is interested in giving the fans of this game the bare minimum and essentially screwing them out of as much money as possible because they know that people are going to buy it regardless.
And you think that Capcom thinks MM fans are worth listening to? X was the top polled character, showing that most of them actually do care, and he wasn't in the game anyway but a skin & card. So because X fans don't start a 100,000 X Fans Strong To Get Mega Man X in UMvC3 Facebook page, they're disloyal? Because they don't think he'll be put in the game based on the evidence already clearly shoved in our faces for $40 after already spending $60, X fans are disloyal? As of now, all that's being shown is that Capcom already doesn't give a [parasitic bomb] what MM fans think. People are still furious over how they were treated, and they've been offered zero compensation to make up for that, except for a brief statement from Seth Killian for fans not to give up hope on the MM franchise.
Keep in mind too, I don't even think putting X in UMvC3 in anyway would help ease fan anger over how they were treated. They want more than X in a fighting game. As insanely happy as it would make me, they want more than another downloadable 8-Bit Classic series MM game. They want a new high end game, and both the intelligent fans & the Capcom business executives know that there is little to no profit in making one right now.
Also keep in mind, I'm an optimist. I don't think the franchise in done with in any stretch of the imagination. However, what the overly optimistic and depressed pessimistic don't seem to realize is that the series is no longer profitable and people outside of the MM fanbase have little to no interest in the franchise anymore. I don't care that X isn't in UMvC3, because it doesn't [tornado fang]ing matter in terms of both X fandom or the future of the MM Franchise. It's a goddamn fighting game. And this one is still a $40 expansion pack that makes the first game absolutely useless. I'm much more upset about that than X not being in the game, in terms of the MvC franchise. In terms of fighting games, I'd love another TatsuCap. So people who are complaining that X is not in a fighting game and think it has anything to do with the franchises' history are just as foolish as people who think that X fans are disloyal for not pushing for him to be a DLC character harder after they've already ignored both his #1 polling & the fact that Capcom has ignored the DLC in the previous $60 game.
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Totally agreed with you on the overall post content PB, but I'm talking on the front of wanting X as a playable character in MVC3 for more than just visual lip service from Capcom in regards to the state of the franchise. I'll have something more coherent to post when I get some sleep though. XD
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Wow, PB. Wow.
I just cant help but agree with all that.
I especially agree on the purchases thing. Capcom has basically had the Fanbase pay 100 dollars for this game, and [parasitic bomb] is it shameful. people that complain about those complaining always say "your just complaining over X being in the game?" but in most cases anyway, its more than about Just X, its really just about MvC3's handling as a whole. They made you pay 60 bucks for what amounts to a beta, and then 40 bucks more for the finished version. And even then, it involves on-disc DLC doesnt it? Which is even worse. So they will have you pay MORE to unlock content already on the disc. (or partial content, Im not too sure, Is it just the DLC skin victory images and [parasitic bomb]? or are the skins there too?)
Also- I was actually pretty pissed at Seth's comment in response to people claiming being trolled by Capcom over the Mega Man Franchise having so many cameos in MvC3 but no actual Mega Man.
So basically, he's telling us to shut up and accept what we got? People aren't allowed to feel trolled when Capcom has offered no explanations other than shoving cameo after cameo in our faces, but no actual blue Super Fighting Robot?
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On another note, the biggest reason I back X over any incarnation of Megaman at this point is because in the gameplay engine they have going here, he would really shine between his mobility, weapons, and chargeable weapons being a mechanic. I should link to a move set I scrub theorized together just to give ideas of how versatile the character could be in the game. Check it out. (http://shoryuken.com/forum/index.php?threads/ultimate-marvel-vs-capcom-3-official.141615/page-455#post-6010519)
There's a difference between being versatile and absolutely over equipped. Your X would be so many different kinds of broken. The only way he could be any more God Tier is if he wasn't a low health character and had a teleport.
The charging of each and every special move really did the number. I like that you would like X to import that aspect of himself over from the games, but it's just too much. Having quarter circle and half circle special moves in the same direction didn't help either. I've told you about that before; you wouldn't get the input you wanted half the time. Not to mention your X is a memory whore. Flipping between every single armor would be way too demanding on the system.
There were some ideas in there that would be very interesting in a game like Marvel. The Gravity Well effects are some of them, but they sound too good to be regular special moves. That's like if Ammy or Joe's slow hypers were just specials. That [tornado fang]ing dog would be even more cheap than she already is. And Crystal Wall OTGing makes so much sense I completely overlooked it in my movelist (http://forum.rockmanpm.com/index.php?topic=3958.msg312349#msg312349) and I should totally fix that.That's a not so subtle hint that I want you to read that because I am genuinely curious as to what you have to say.
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Also- I was actually pretty pissed at Seth's comment in response to people claiming being trolled by Capcom over the Mega Man Franchise having so many cameos in MvC3 but no actual Mega Man.
So basically, he's telling us to shut up and accept what we got? People aren't allowed to feel trolled when Capcom has offered no explanations other than shoving cameo after cameo in our faces, but no actual blue Super Fighting Robot?
Honestly, I have no problem with the cameos in UMvC3 because again, I don't think it matters regarding the state of the franchise. In the long run, cameos are usually a nice thing to see. As a comic fan, I absolutely love the Days of Future's Past poster that shows Mega Man still alive & kicking (which makes sense in the Sentinel's Future considering that he's a robot). I mean, the MM franchise has two representatives, whereas I still don't see either Fokker or Rouge from my lovable Power Stone franchise anywhere on the roster, or even close to being there. As for the X skin, again I really find the game itself more offensive than that.
The cameos are most likely honestly meant to be something fun. It's something the writers & game designers, people who have absolutely nothing to do with what's happening to the MM franchise right now, wanted to throw in. It's really just bad timing as well as the fact that again Capcom has offered no compensation for their business holocaust regarding MML3, and trust me when I say that simply putting X or any other MM character in UMvC3 would not be enough. In regards to the MM franchise, UMvC3 has nothing to do with what's happened or what will happen. No matter what cameos are in the game, no matter what new characters they put in the game via DLC or Admantium Marvel vs. Capcom 3 $40 expansion pack disc, the MM franchise will still remain in it's current dire straights.
However, in terms of people complaining about X's fighting game debut denial or the fact that Rock's not even playable when he was in the previous MvC games (plus the poster), this is what Capcom is going to deal with for a long time, and it's sad that the Capcom Unity people, fans of other Capcom franchise's, and those of us who aren't as upset as them have to deal with it. But when you treat your customers like [parasitic bomb], they are in a shitty mood cause they've essentially been covered in [parasitic bomb]. I think what REALLY irritates fans more than anything, without a lot of them even knowing it, is that after what they did with MML3, and hell after paying $100 for a fighting game, they don't really want to support the company anymore but they know that Capcom has them by the balls when it comes to their favorite types of games to play. This is why Capcom doesn't have to offer any sort of compensation for the MML3 debacle, because despite them covering you with [parasitic bomb] they know people are still coming back to them, because gamers are just as much addicts as crack users. The initial launch of the 360 is proof enough of that, because I don't think there's another product in the electronics world than can have a 56% failure rate at one point, and still continue to sell even after it breaking 2 or 3 or 8 times.
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So essentially, the short version regarding the UMvC3 trolling is, it's really not trolling and don't sweat the small stuff like that. Cameos are in for fun, not douchebaggery, and there's really no malice behind it. However, don't forget what kind of company you're dealing with now. Don't forget what they did, and observe what they continue to do.
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There's a difference between being versatile and absolutely over equipped. Your X would be so many different kinds of broken. The only way he could be any more God Tier is if he wasn't a low health character and had a teleport.
The charging of each and every special move really did the number. I like that you would like X to import that aspect of himself over from the games, but it's just too much. Having quarter circle and half circle special moves in the same direction didn't help either. I've told you about that before; you wouldn't get the input you wanted half the time. Not to mention your X is a memory whore. Flipping between every single armor would be way too demanding on the system.
There were some ideas in there that would be very interesting in a game like Marvel. The Gravity Well effects are some of them, but they sound too good to be regular special moves. That's like if Ammy or Joe's slow hypers were just specials. That [tornado fang]ing dog would be even more cheap than she already is. And Crystal Wall OTGing makes so much sense I completely overlooked it in my movelist (http://forum.rockmanpm.com/index.php?topic=3958.msg312349#msg312349) and I should totally fix that.That's a not so subtle hint that I want you to read that because I am genuinely curious as to what you have to say.
Remember, I prefaced my comment with a scrub theory monster comment. I made that X sometime before I even started doing things with my side project and understood what makes a fighting game character reasonable. If anything, that's more about how overall moves or mechanics with the character could work than a guideline to what X should be entirely about. He'd be broke as [parasitic bomb] like that. XD
On your interpretation of X, I like it honestly, but I feel like X has too many weapon options that can be creatively played with for his normals to just be regular kicks and punches. You do a better job of mapping moves to command normals though. Why I didn't think of things like Fire Wave being a b.H input is beyond me, but now I'm very tempted to steal that and redo my initial move set here on RPM. XD
Overall, I've always kinda seen him as this high mobility pixie character (750K - 900K - better than Zero but still somewhat under average) with tools because that's what he's always been about in the series. I also kinda wanted to design something that was the antithesis of Dante in the game, a "Swiss army knife" that can play all styles but does zoning best (versus Dante's focus on rushdown). People don't realize how much potential X has as a fighting game character just because he follows in the archetype of Megaman in MVC2 & prior and that's something that needs to be shown off in these move sets more. All imo of course.
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So essentially, the short version regarding the UMvC3 trolling is, it's really not trolling and don't sweat the small stuff like that. Cameos are in for fun, not douchebaggery, and there's really no malice behind it. However, don't forget what kind of company you're dealing with now. Don't forget what they did, and observe what they continue to do.
Pretty much the main train of thought I'm on and what everyone else should try to see right here.
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tl;dr
So essentially, the short version regarding the UMvC3 trolling is, it's really not trolling and don't sweat the small stuff like that. Cameos are in for fun, not douchebaggery, and there's really no malice behind it.
Pretty much. Like you've said, Capcom are not doing it to make MM fans angry, MM fans are doing that to themselves, HOWEVER, it IS Capcom's fault entirely that that happens because of how they've handled the situation.
Also, on the whole $40 expansion thing and Capcom having no interest in using its DLC, personally I don't mind that much. The way I see it, those are $20 less that I have to pay for all characters (if they were going to keep their prices the same it'd be 5*12=$60 for the characters alone), plus it comes with more stages (although as good as they look, none of them are truly new), and system and balance changes. It's also way more convenient for gatherings/tournaments, because if Jill/Shuma were any indication, chances are I wouldn't be able to play with half the new characters every time I go to my weekly tourney -.-
Now, whether all that stuff should've been in the original version in the first place is another argument. Still, I'm sure you know how companies work; even if the ones making the game would've wanted that, the guys at the top of the company make it impossible.
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If they do the update "AE Style" and make it an add-on for people who already have the game then I wouldn't have too much of a problem with it. Shelling out $15 for an update isn't nearly as bad as having to buy the game all over again. Also, my strategy guide just arrived today, and it's pretty darn huge! Easily the most thorough guide I've ever seen on a fighting game to date.
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They're hung up on X more than anything, and again Capcom has no one to blame but themselves. I've said it before and I'll say it again, that's what happens when you treat your customers like utter [parasitic bomb] and offer no compensation. Hahahaha, and as for "companies going for whatever can make them the fastest buck/fan demand backing this up," please see below...
LOL! If by "disregarding the authors for one moment and speaking solely in the context of the game's structure" you mean "ignore the fact that Capcom ignored the DLC in the original $60 dollar game and forced their customers to buy a brand new $40 Expansion pack which in turn made said $60 purchase 100% useless" I'll be honest....I personally find that kinda hard to disregard. But that's just me.
I mean honestly, what about this MVC3 series gives you any sense of hope or reason it could happen? The very game itself is almost concrete, Phoenix Wright-able evidence that they have 0% interest in utilizing their DLC system. They charge $60 for the bare-minimum'd first game, ignored the game's structure, then made that very purchase obsolete by releasing this version of it. Realistically, what that shows is that the only chance of seeing X or any other MM character in a MvC3 fighting game is if they release another brand new $40 game and make UMvC3 useless. I mean, they've already stated that they have no plans at this moment to utilize DLC for characters at this time. Again, not concrete evidence but considering UMvC3 itself, it's pretty clear that Capcom is interested in giving the fans of this game the bare minimum and essentially screwing them out of as much money as possible because they know that people are going to buy it regardless.
And you think that Capcom thinks MM fans are worth listening to? X was the top polled character, showing that most of them actually do care, and he wasn't in the game anyway but a skin & card. So because X fans don't start a 100,000 X Fans Strong To Get Mega Man X in UMvC3 Facebook page, they're disloyal? Because they don't think he'll be put in the game based on the evidence already clearly shoved in our faces for $40 after already spending $60, X fans are disloyal? As of now, all that's being shown is that Capcom already doesn't give a [parasitic bomb] what MM fans think. People are still furious over how they were treated, and they've been offered zero compensation to make up for that, except for a brief statement from Seth Killian for fans not to give up hope on the MM franchise.
Keep in mind too, I don't even think putting X in UMvC3 in anyway would help ease fan anger over how they were treated. They want more than X in a fighting game. As insanely happy as it would make me, they want more than another downloadable 8-Bit Classic series MM game. They want a new high end game, and both the intelligent fans & the Capcom business executives know that there is little to no profit in making one right now.
Also keep in mind, I'm an optimist. I don't think the franchise in done with in any stretch of the imagination. However, what the overly optimistic and depressed pessimistic don't seem to realize is that the series is no longer profitable and people outside of the MM fanbase have little to no interest in the franchise anymore. I don't care that X isn't in UMvC3, because it doesn't [tornado fang]ing matter in terms of both X fandom or the future of the MM Franchise. It's a goddamn fighting game. And this one is still a $40 expansion pack that makes the first game absolutely useless. I'm much more upset about that than X not being in the game, in terms of the MvC franchise. In terms of fighting games, I'd love another TatsuCap. So people who are complaining that X is not in a fighting game and think it has anything to do with the franchises' history are just as foolish as people who think that X fans are disloyal for not pushing for him to be a DLC character harder after they've already ignored both his #1 polling & the fact that Capcom has ignored the DLC in the previous $60 game.
Well, I'm not arguing with any of that. Capcom has treated Mega Man like [parasitic bomb]. Period. No questions.
And I'm positive you're right on with DLC characters, it's Capcom's long-established pattern to just offer unlock flags and call it a day. But I'm talking about the nutcases who believe the hypothetical DLC character scenario and yet also state that X will have no part in it solely because of those freaking skins; which I see plenty of. It's a fine mix of selective reasoning and paranoia. And yeah, I don't take inadequate references as trolling AT ALL. I take them as poorly attempted fanservice, that happens to be completely inadequate. The latter is lazy, the earlier is malicious. There's a word of difference. I know full well Capcom doesn't listen to us, but hurling trolling accusations at them only justifies their ignoring us.
I cannot stress this enough: Every damn word of your post rings true. For no reason whatsoever should the fans be happy with what's going on. It's just that I see entirely too many of them who don't apply such actual intelligence to their complaints, and it gets frustrating. I get why they're in the mood that they are, I just wish more of them would find their way to the legitimate complaints, because it sure as hell isn't like there aren't enough such complaints to bring to the table.
But when you treat your customers like [parasitic bomb], they are in a shitty mood cause they've essentially been covered in [parasitic bomb]. I think what REALLY irritates fans more than anything, without a lot of them even knowing it, is that after what they did with MML3, and hell after paying $100 for a fighting game, they don't really want to support the company anymore but they know that Capcom has them by the balls when it comes to their favorite types of games to play. This is why Capcom doesn't have to offer any sort of compensation for the MML3 debacle, because despite them covering you with [parasitic bomb] they know people are still coming back to them, because gamers are just as much addicts as crack users.
So. Damn. True.
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I cannot stress this enough: Every damn word of your post rings true. For no reason whatsoever should the fans be happy with what's going on. It's just that I see entirely too many of them who don't apply such actual intelligence to their complaints, and it gets frustrating. I get why they're in the mood that they are, I just wish more of them would find their way to the legitimate complaints, because it sure as hell isn't like there aren't enough such complaints to bring to the table.
Well it's understandable, to a certain degree. Anger clouds judgment & reason, especially when you're angry over a disservice to both you and something you love. I mean, I just recently got upset over Kojima saying something about a Metal Gear Solid 5, when I still have yet to see my Zone of the Enders 3. I know why I'll see a MGS5 over a ZOE3, but it still upsets me. Haha, lord only knows what my reaction would be if Konami pulled the same [parasitic bomb] with ZOE3 that Capcom did with MML3. You'd see a steady stream of creative profanity out of my mouth the likes of which has never been seen on this site before. I agree in the fact that the X omission in UMvC3 is not a huge complaint as compared to what Capcom did regarding MML3. However, this is a product of it. Everything MM related is going to set people off now. Everything. Like I said, I'd be super happy if they announced another 8-Bit DLC MegaMan 11 with more joyous Playable Blues. However, now they really can't because the outrage over it would be huge. You'll see so many of "So all you can give us is re-hashing old [parasitic bomb] rather than an actual new game?" that the only reason they'd make some kind of a profit are because fans like me have no choice but to buy Playable Blues, and because it's my favorite type of MM game to play.
In all honesty, complaining of any kind will do nothing. The only thing that will make them notice the true folly of what they've done is to no longer support them monetarily. Sadly though, there's no chance of that happening.
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Something I just noticed about the DLC costume packs. I didn't think of it at first, but having the final pack include 5 characters means that one character is missing from the total. And it's Nova's alt, which I think was mentioned is based off something that hasn't been officially revealed yet. Could that be why it won't be included in any packs until the complete set? It's just strange.
As much as I want the 90's Jean Grey today, I'm gonna wait on the full set cause I would've spent that $20 on 5 packs anyway.
Also, actually, I may reconsider Zero. I don't feel I'm getting as much done with him, and cause I play on a controller, I can't really use charge shots all that well. The only times I would use it would be on an incoming character or in the Sogenmu loop.
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I thought Nova's alt was a 'classic look' like Thor's?
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They explicitly mentioned that it hasn't even been shown on the comics yet when they were explaining the origin of each alt.
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I think Nova is still missing/dead in the comic world. That will probably be the suit he returns in.
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He's supposedly coming back as a "Kid Nova" or something.......and it doesn't look good.
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqjpxS_FWVg[/youtube]
And to think, this was supposed to be a move instated to lower the "derp" factor of Wolverine.
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Well, it still requires some setup and apparently is only possible on the 4 fattest characters. And when the first patch comes out it'll probably fix that along with the glitches found so far.
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*falls out of chair laughing*
Okay, so this is the funniest thing I've seen in a long time. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qdhAZ7E6GA) Apparently the Capcom execs were such big fans of Maximilian's work that...well, you just have to watch it. I was planning on using Doom as an anchor for my team anyway, but this...just solidified that decision.
[spoiler]I'm not sure if it's a practical joke by Max or not, but it's still hilarious either way.[/spoiler]
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[spoiler]It is actually something I could see Capcom putting in the game. But this is definitely a joke. When you saw The Real Doom in a different font, that should've been a clue. And apparently X is the thumbnail picture for the video.[/spoiler]
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[spoiler]And that's why Doom's one of my favorites in the Marvel Universe, gotta love that snarky side of him, bravo max for pulling this thing off.[/spoiler]
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVi1ZaKTq8w[/youtube]
Deadpool's comment made me laugh, and then the note about Norman's hair gel made me laugh even harder! XD
Posted on: December 06, 2011, 18:19:35
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AEAmudYo7Qk[/youtube]
Given that this is a Megaman forum, a lot of this stuff would seem elementary. A lot of the subtle stuff I never noticed, though, like the standing animation and Yammar Option's similarity to Ouroboros.
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Much appreciated for the more obsessive fanboyishness in all of us. 8)
The vast majority of that is lifted from TvC. Right down to the basic attack combo being basically the X4/X5 attack with Zero switching his dominant hand, and even the double-bladed variety to the Hadangeki (incidentally, X5's saber wave was called Denharei, or likely Denha Zero with the way MvC3 is translating).
Aside from the obvious graphical changes, basically what was new to MvC3 was the Raikousen, the fact that Rekkoha is performed with the buster (the mechanics of the attack were obviously redone as well), and Genmurei. I gotta admit, that last one caught me by surprise. I thought it was supposed to be Rekkyoudan, from X8, especially since his debut trailer depicted it as a projectile reflector.
I'm surprised that they neglected to mention the fact that, despite it's name, Sogenmu's handling is more akin to Heat Haze, especially given that they chose Command Mission music for that segment in the video.
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I'm surprised that they neglected to mention the fact that, despite it's name, Sogenmu's handling is more akin to Heat Haze, especially given that they chose Command Mission music for that segment in the video.
Take note that Heat Haze had the X and Y command input. Therefore Sogenmu's the most likely canidate. If it were Heat Haze, there would've been yet another greyscale Zero behind him. I'm not sure, correct me if I'm wrong.
Expect Ulti Marvel vs Capcom 3 (360) from me soon. If not then well.. yipe.
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I always thought Zero's crouching H/Jumping S was supposed to be this
(http://newsimg.ngfiles.com/261000/261186_yes.gif)
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That's Zero's aerial attack (see 2:00), merely using the transitional frames for if he lands while performing it.
I prefer to just think of those two as original, as the movement doesn't really match Ensuizan that well, and the ground version of that attack is taken from TvC, which was a lot more literal in its attack animations than MvC3 was (MvC3 is obviously taking larger creative liberties with moves like Rekkoha and Genmurei).
Take note that Heat Haze had the X and Y command input. Therefore Sogenmu's the most likely canidate. If it were Heat Haze, there would've been yet another greyscale Zero behind him. I'm not sure, correct me if I'm wrong.
You actually have to equip two Heat Hazes for that to happen.
Sogenmu is used because it's from a main-series game, that's pretty much it. Launcher/Rising is a pretty loose connection and could just as easily relate to X6's third combo hit, among other things.
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Capcom-Unity is streaming the PlayStation Vita port of Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3. The address is http://www.twitch.tv/capcomunity.
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What's the community for this game like on RPM? Do we have anyone else besides Sato maybe that watches streams of the game being played? I asked this because the Grand Finals of the past Curleh Mustache invitational series was the stuff of legends.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N24QEXQvsg4[/youtube]
Dat Morrigan Sou Sou Sou Sou XD
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WOW. That was one hell of a match. The guy really adapted and pulled it off. It reminds me of how I play at times. Awesome video.
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Yeah, I really liked this match, even if a lot of youtube heads are mad at Morrigan's zoning game backed by Doom Missiles being amazingly guud. MarlinPie's combos though? Jesus Christ. XD
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I still play the game(s) whenever I have the time collecting stuff in them. D:
http://www.trueachievements.com/MARVEL-VS-CAPCOM-3-xbox-360.htm?gamerid=284902
http://www.trueachievements.com/U-MARVEL-VS-CAPCOM-3-xbox-360.htm?gamerid=284902
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even if a lot of youtube heads are mad at Morrigan's zoning game backed by Doom Missiles being amazingly guud
Yes, it is an effective and cheap tactic, but there are solutions to it. He just had to change his way of thinking to combat it. It's legitimate, as much as I hate to say it.
The guy obviously had skills when he finally did get in and started raping the characters one by one. He just needed a way to get in.
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IYNWnRt4bo&list=FL7Oy1aX7PZ1pxuBsqNto8MA&feature=mh_lolz[/youtube]
Okay, a bit of "OMG, I did good." patting myself on the back here, but footage of me taking on Max at 2:10 I think... I can't help but think that I did a damn good job with Spidey in that match.
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Wow. That was some awesome Spidey use, Ramzal! WEB SWINGERS REPRESENT!
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Discuss:
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While the authenticity of this is being debated, I have no problem believing that it could be potentially real. I had a feeling that Niitsuma's 8 missing characters were going to show up at some point, it was just a matter of when.
EDIT: Confirmed fake (http://www.capcom-unity.com/ask_capcom/go/thread/view/7371/28983281/Ultimate_Marvel_vs_Capcom_3X&post_num=17#517374963). :|
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Sooo... today my first PS3 game arrived.
Ultimate Marvel Vs Capcom 3.
I rediscovered how hard it is for me to play fighters on a gamepad. Anybody got any tips?
Also... my first and probably only online match for now was with some [Top Spin] who kept spamming Sentinel's rockets and I, because of my inexperience, couldn't do [parasitic bomb].
Also, I mostly play (right now at least) as Zero, Vergil and Dante.
Healp?
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Sentinel's rockets
Welcome to Online Gaming of Today! ^^;
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vybIP-DBQio[/youtube]
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Wow, what did I watch.
Still, seems helpful, thanks. : >
But i think that before I start playing online again, I'll try to learn to do better combos (and how to play on gamepad in general).
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With people who abuse assists, you'll want to punish that. Dante works well enough or punishing with his Million Dollars hyper. Also, one thing I found myself kicking myself for and wondering why others haven't used it at all is the cross over counter. It's a good way to get people off you if you are pressured in a corner, blocking, or they are setting up an unblockable with the help of an assist. And with a hyper right afterward, it can do some hefty damage if you set it up right.
Example: Being forced into a corner by Wolverine and an Akuma tatsu assist is coming. Cross over counter with Captain America coming in with Charging star and then cancel into Hyper charging star. From there, you can X-factor cancel, OTG, and combo both characters for an easy double kill.