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Title: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: The Great Gonzo on September 05, 2009, 05:18:45 PM
RPM's WikiSpace (Wikipedia itself once mentioned it, but it looks like it's been removed) tells me that episode 27 of the Ruby-Spears Megaman cartoon never aired, with episode 28 being "Crime of the Century".

My question is, is this just a fluke, or did ep. 27 really not air? If the latter, then for what reasons? My best guess is that it was still in progress when the show's plug was pulled, or if it was finished, then they just didn't bother. It being unfinished would explain why it's not on the DVDs, at any rate.
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Flame on September 05, 2009, 05:26:36 PM
PROTOMAN FINALLY LAYS ROCK
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Night on September 06, 2009, 12:04:33 AM
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: VixyNyan on September 06, 2009, 12:58:32 AM
The 'pedia says:

1995.12.03: Mega X
1995.12.10: Crime of the Century

7 days between them. Maybe the unaired episode was put on hold, or maybe it doesn't exist at all. >v< </psp>
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Gaia on September 06, 2009, 01:39:03 AM
MAYBE either Crime of the Century OR Mega X really be the missing 27th ep; there was no 28 in my book (Watched 'em all.. IN ORDER!)~
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Protodude on September 06, 2009, 02:06:58 AM
To my knowledge, the only "unaired" episode was the pilot/promo (http://www.mmhp.net/Marketing/Promo.html)
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Sub Tank on September 06, 2009, 02:08:54 AM
I posted it.  It had Zero in it, and the Sigma Virus.

http://www.rockmanpm.com/i/flash/superfightingrobot.swf
http://www.rockmanpm.com/i/flash/superfightingrobot2.swf
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Protoman Blues on September 06, 2009, 02:13:34 AM
I posted it.  It had Zero in it, and the Sigma Virus.

http://www.rockmanpm.com/i/flash/superfightingrobot.swf
http://www.rockmanpm.com/i/flash/superfightingrobot2.swf

This still makes me laugh pretty much every time I watch it.
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Flame on September 06, 2009, 02:23:07 AM
This still makes me laugh pretty much every time I watch it.
Cant say any differently. XD
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: The Great Gonzo on September 06, 2009, 02:35:11 AM
Me neither.

I'm really thinking it might just be a Wikipedian goof--maybe whoever was writing the episode guide got something confused. And I don't think anyone at Ruby-Spears responds to emails nowadays, so...
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Keno on September 06, 2009, 08:18:29 AM
I posted it.  It had Zero in it, and the Sigma Virus.

http://www.rockmanpm.com/i/flash/superfightingrobot.swf
http://www.rockmanpm.com/i/flash/superfightingrobot2.swf
I wish you weren't so lazy nowadays.
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Flame on September 07, 2009, 11:36:06 PM
What ARE you talking about?
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Keno on September 08, 2009, 07:16:50 AM
He stopped working on it because finding the clips was too much work.
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Fragman on September 09, 2009, 10:55:53 PM
So Ruby spears didn't air an episode?  That sure was nice of them.  Do you think they can do that for the rest of the series?
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Keno on September 10, 2009, 12:35:48 AM
You're foolish.
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: The Great Gonzo on September 10, 2009, 12:45:21 AM
So Ruby spears didn't air an episode?  That sure was nice of them.  Do you think they can do that for the rest of the series?

GTFO. *patiently waits for the day when bashing the cartoon becomes unfashionable*
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: VixyNyan on September 10, 2009, 12:47:57 AM
Leave the cartoon alone.
Some of us like it~ </wii>
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Keno on September 10, 2009, 01:41:18 AM
Anyone that counts likes it.
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Fragman on September 11, 2009, 08:25:53 AM
It's nothing fashionable about it.  I've seen it and it's bad.  The writing is bad, the artwork is bad, and it's clearly created by people who have no respect for what Megaman should be.  That's how I feel about it.  I look at it and I see a betrayal of the spirit of the series.  I think people just cling to it because it's the only animated series to represent classic Megaman.

Really, you'd be hard pressed to find a Zelda fan who loves the old Zelda cartoons, so I don't see why liking Ruby Spears Megaman is somehow sacred to parts of the fandom.  Most fans of Batman turn away in disgust from the 1960's series, and you'd be hard pressed to find a Fantastic Four fan who'd defend the "The Thing" cartoon.  I mean if it's just your tastes in animation, I don't see why, but you're entitled to that, but there's no reason to cling to it just because you want to be a bigger fan of Megaman.

Just my two cents on the matter.
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Post by: Protoman Blues on September 11, 2009, 08:36:35 AM
Most fans of Batman turn away in disgust from the 1960's series

I'm going to have to disagree with you there.  The huge majority of Batman fans I know are huge, HUGE fans of the Adam West Batman series, myself included.  Campy as it may be, that series is a damn near perfect representation of what the comic was like back in the 60's, and it's enjoyable to look back upon.  That series is still currently the most wanted TV series on DVD that has not come out yet.
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: CephiYumi on September 11, 2009, 08:40:11 AM
Really, you'd be hard pressed to find a Zelda fan who loves the old Zelda cartoons

I like zelda and I liked the cartoon, the whole SMBSS in fact, even the live action bits x3  I dunno, can't you think of the Ruby-Spears cartoon as it's own thing?  It's jus a goofy cartoon o.o
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Protoman Blues on September 11, 2009, 08:47:11 AM
I like zelda and I liked the cartoon, the whole SMBSS in fact, even the live action bits x3  I dunno, can't you think of the Ruby-Spears cartoon as it's own thing?  It's jus a goofy cartoon o.o

It can be argued that the rap intro to the Super Mario Bros. Super Show is among the greatest cartoon openings ever.

However, I agree with Cephi.  Yeah, Super Fighting Robot MegaMan is definitely not a true representation of the Classic series, or even that good in the grand scheme of things.  But I still think it's a lot of fun.  It's cheesy, it has a kick ass opening, the VA work is awesome (I mean, no one but Scott McNeil should ever EVER be allowed to voice Dr. Wily), and it's just goofy like Cephi said.  I mean, I'm a hardcore Blues fan and I still enjoy the show even though Blues is evil and has no Shield!  XD
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Bag of Magic Food on September 11, 2009, 12:04:46 PM
I thought it was a pretty good representation of the classic series.  Every adaptation makes a few changes, and you wouldn't even notice them if all you had seen was gameplay footage.
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: The Great Gonzo on September 11, 2009, 01:19:25 PM
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and it's clearly created by people who have no respect for what Megaman should be.

You, sir, have clearly forgotten Captain N and NAdM.
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Thanatos-Zero on September 11, 2009, 04:55:42 PM
Now I´m asking me, what would have been the outcome, if Keiji Inafune was the producer instead of Joe Ruby and Ken Spears?
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: VixyNyan on September 11, 2009, 05:48:48 PM
what would have been the outcome, if Keiji Inafune was the producer?

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/OVA1_020.jpg) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/OVA1_157.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/OVA2_068.jpg) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/OVA2_134.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/OVA3_068.jpg) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/OVA3_163.jpg)

Something close to that~ ^^
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Thanatos-Zero on September 11, 2009, 06:30:03 PM
Ah! The Rockman OVA, I almost forgot that.
Super Rockman Adventure could also be counted.

Thank you Vixy.  8)

A anime adaption of Rockman Megamix under the guideance of Inafune would be more than awesome.  :V
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Flame on September 11, 2009, 10:32:26 PM
Wow.
I seriously don't think the world is ready for that kind of awesome, Thanatos.
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: The Great Gonzo on September 11, 2009, 11:05:26 PM
Now I´m asking me, what would have been the outcome, if Keiji Inafune was the producer instead of Joe Ruby and Ken Spears?

The OVAs, except earlier.

To which America would've responded, "What is this [parasitic bomb]? Change the channel."
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Thanatos-Zero on September 12, 2009, 12:53:10 AM
Wow.
I seriously don't think the world is ready for that kind of awesome, Thanatos.

But for us anytime, anywhere!  [eyebrow]
Let us Rock and Roll that day, when this will happen.
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Fragman on September 12, 2009, 07:51:30 AM
Personally I always thought that the Ruby Spears version underestimated American Audiences.  Astro Boy was popular in its day.  I don't think it needed changes such as turning Roll into a jumpsuit wearing bimbo, Megaman into a balloon muscled steroid case, and Rush into Scooby Doo or reducing Protoman's characterization to just being the evil rival rather than the mysterious loner were necessary.  By the fifth game (which was released around the same time as the Ruby Spears cartoon) Capcom of America had long since given up trying to change Megaman into something like you'd see on the first and second game's box art, and gone to something much closer to the original character design.  Now the Ruby Spears series was not nearly as egregious a violation as Captain N, but still it's a far way off.



In fact as I recall there was the issue brought up of the unaired pilot episode, which did in fact come much closer to the real character designs.  How good the writing would have been if it kept to that concept I don't know, and is entirely up to supposition.  I did however enjoy the Upon A Star DVD.  As simple as it was at least got the character designs and personalities right, even if it did go a bit too light compared to the games.

I 100% agree the best case would have been an anime adaptation of the Megamix manga.  I'm at least glad we're finally getting Megamix stateside. 
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: The Great Gonzo on September 12, 2009, 03:15:06 PM
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Astro Boy was popular in its day.

Regardless, by the time Generation Y came about, the show was FORTY YEARS OLD. As good as it was, I don't think kids in the 90s would've had much interest in it. (And before you bring up old Looney Tunes shorts, LT was something completely different)

And the reason that Ruby-Spears changed the designs wasn't because they were a bunch of pricks, but because the game designs tested poorly with test audiences. They didn't have much of a choice. And even if they didn't redesign anyone, the writing would still be the same.

...Someone please find evidence of an unaired episode/s so we can stop going back and forth on this matter. ;_;
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Flame on September 13, 2009, 07:43:01 PM
America dont like their shows unless its about buff superheroes.

At least we're more open minded now. Plus when I watched it, to me, it felt no different than the game designs. its now that Im older that I notice how different they were.
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Gatuca on September 13, 2009, 08:12:51 PM
regarding the pilot, somebody on this page had some rip of the promo, but at the time, there was no youtube

http://www.mmhp.net/marketing/Promo.html (http://www.mmhp.net/marketing/Promo.html)

Somebody Could Contact those persons???

Now, it would been awesome to had the original version of the cartoon, with the original style intact, but, here's a thing, the promo was animated in japan or not?, since after the promo, the Wish upon a star OVA's were made, and they kinda dissapointing since they were mainly educational, but it gives an idea of how the megaman cartoon could been

and lets not forget, in the 1st OVA, all the characters have their american counterparts name's intead of the japanese one's, and the kids are playing the american cart of megaman 5, instead of the japanese famicom one, and that Scoth Mc Nheil (did i wrote that wrong?) voiced Dr. Wily in the english dub.

Damn my English Spelling
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: The Great Gonzo on September 13, 2009, 08:29:33 PM
I heard that Mandi wasn't willing to share the promo beyond those screenshots, so I think asking her for it would be moot.

And I still think that the original art style would've attracted a huge female audience and get the show retooled. A Megaman shoujo series without a flowery art style...that'd be interesting.
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Flame on September 13, 2009, 10:09:22 PM
Oh wow, so that's where that Rockman 7 commercial got the Wily bit from. (and probably the Megaman one too)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w9pcshsYQs
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Gatuca on September 13, 2009, 11:05:39 PM
holy S**t its true, the 2 1/2 seconds of footage ARE from the Cartoon Pilot!!!
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Kieran on September 13, 2009, 11:34:10 PM
It's nothing fashionable about it.  I've seen it and it's bad.  The writing is bad, the artwork is bad, and it's clearly created by people who have no respect for what Megaman should be.  That's how I feel about it.  I look at it and I see a betrayal of the spirit of the series.  I think people just cling to it because it's the only animated series to represent classic Megaman.

Really, you'd be hard pressed to find a Zelda fan who loves the old Zelda cartoons, so I don't see why liking Ruby Spears Megaman is somehow sacred to parts of the fandom.  Most fans of Batman turn away in disgust from the 1960's series, and you'd be hard pressed to find a Fantastic Four fan who'd defend the "The Thing" cartoon.  I mean if it's just your tastes in animation, I don't see why, but you're entitled to that, but there's no reason to cling to it just because you want to be a bigger fan of Megaman.

Just my two cents on the matter.

All that having been said, it was Capcom of Japan's decision to handle the Megaman cartoon the way it was, and the only major difference between the pilot episode and the final product was the art style.

Also, from the back of my DVD case:
Executive Producer: Kenzo Tsujimoto (CEO of Capcom Japan)
Producers: Akio Sakai (President of Imagin Co., Ltd of Japan), Jun Aida (President of Square Pictures, Japan)
Supervising Producer: Toshihiko Sato (Founder of Production Reed Co., Ltd of Japan), alongside Ruby and Spears
Animation Directors: Hiroyuki Yokoyama (worked on a few of the MS Gundam series), Kenichiro Watanabe (directed such animes as Azumanga Daioh, Power Stone, Rurouni Kenshin, and the Galaxy Adventures of Oz), Minoru Okazaki (directed Dragonball, Dragonball Z, Dragonball GT, some of the Dragonball movies, and did storyboards for Lupin III and New Gigantor)
Production Coordinators: Hazuki Kataoka, Eiichi Takahashi
Background Design: Yoshimi Umino (Good LORD did this person do art production in a lot of anime, including .Hack, Arc the Lad, The Galaxy Railways, Zeiram the Animation, Candidate for Goddess, Ranma 1/2, Record of Lodoss War, and Tenchi Muyo)

The Megaman cartoon was very much a Japanese production, and the only reason the animation style was changed was because test markets responded better to the more "American" look.  Scooby-Dooified Rush aside, not much else changed.
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Bag of Magic Food on September 14, 2009, 02:23:02 AM
And the reason that Ruby-Spears changed the designs wasn't because they were a bunch of pricks, but because the game designs tested poorly with test audiences. They didn't have much of a choice. And even if they didn't redesign anyone, the writing would still be the same.
And hey, not everyone got a major redesign, either.  Rush, Dr. Wily, and many of the Robot Masters, mostly the ones introduced in Season 2, barely looked any different at all to me.  And I don't fault them for trying to make Roll more interesting either.
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Keno on September 14, 2009, 03:32:12 AM
It's nothing fashionable about it.  I've seen it and it's bad.  The writing is bad, the artwork is bad, and it's clearly created by people who have no respect for what Megaman should be.  That's how I feel about it.  I look at it and I see a betrayal of the spirit of the series.  I think people just cling to it because it's the only animated series to represent classic Megaman.
You remind me of one of those the book is better than the movie people. Seriously, it's marketing. Let's all cry about how much the Mega Man X series is different from Mega Man rather than liking both differently.

Edit:
I just noticed that everyone is talking about the OVA. Seriously? I didn't think it was possible to be more entertained by that boring-ass Japanese culture lesson than by the hilariously awesome RS cartoon. I mean, the action scenes rocked, but not so much the parades and stuff.
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Flame on September 14, 2009, 03:42:32 AM
I loved the OVA. plus it was integrated nicely. Megaman comes out of the TV, and as he tries to sort of fit in, he learns of stuff. It wasnt just a culture lesson, and it was a very well made one at that. plus, the animation was really good. And the basic Idea was fantasy enough to work. kids favorite Video Game characters come out of the TV and battle it out in real life. What kid hasnt dreamed that at some time or another?

RS Megaman is only enjoyable because it was hilariously bad. as in, its so bad, it good.
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Post by: Hypershell on September 14, 2009, 03:47:10 AM
I 100% agree the best case would have been an anime adaptation of the Megamix manga.  I'm at least glad we're finally getting Megamix stateside.
See, this is a double-standard to me.  Megamix, like Ruby Spears, "toughened up" the game designs.  Megamix just left Rock and Roll as kids, but the art style and overall theme to the story are a good deal darker than the games.

I'm not saying Roll's jumpsuit and Protoman being the generic evil twin were my favorite parts either, but overall I think the Ruby Spears cartoon did a good job.

Really, you'd be hard pressed to find a Zelda fan who loves the old Zelda cartoons
Well, EXCUUUSE ME, PRINCESS, but you're looking at one Biggoron's Sword nutcase who happens to also appreciate the classic cartoon.
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: The Great Gonzo on September 14, 2009, 03:51:49 AM
Edit:
I just noticed that everyone is talking about the OVA. Seriously? I didn't think it was possible to be more entertained by that boring-ass Japanese culture lesson than by the hilariously awesome RS cartoon. I mean, the action scenes rocked, but not so much the parades and stuff.

Not to mention, for all the changes the Ruby-Spears cartoon made, the OVA made more. "Hey guys! Let's make Megaman a video game character in-universe and have him pop out of the TV for no adequately explained reason! And let's have two Japanese kids push him around and make him wait during the entirety of the first episode even when he's badly hurt! That's totally like the games!"

It's not, and yet it generally gets a free pass. Glaaaaaa.

See, this is a double-standard to me.  Megamix, like Ruby Spears, "toughened up" the game designs.  Megamix just left Rock and Roll as kids, but the art style and overall theme to the story are a good deal darker than the games.

Why is it that the Japanese can make an arseload of changes to Megaman and have them accepted without question, but the Americans (and Brazilians) can't so much as miscolour someone without the fandom going "THIS IS A TRAVESTY TO CANON! BAAAWWW!"?
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Flame on September 14, 2009, 03:57:30 AM
I didnt mind the RS designs. In fact, for some odd reason, Protoman looked so... RIGHT, wearing red underwear instead of the red strip. it was just that Protoman was the bad guy and Wily's right hand that was what killed it a bit. lets say that Protoman was still a good guy, and Wily had some "invented for the show" rival robot. (most likely an evil clone of Megaman) I think it would not be that bad.

Not to mention, for all the changes the Ruby-Spears cartoon made, the OVA made more. "Hey guys! Let's make Megaman a video game character in-universe and have him pop out of the TV for no adequately explained reason! And let's have two Japanese kids push him around and make him wait during the entirety of the first episode even when he's badly hurt! That's totally like the games!"
i cant see whats so bad about a fantasy setting such as that. a kids videogame character coming out of the TV. remember it was supposed to be simple, and sweet. and the story was simple. it would be too convoluted if they came up with some complicated explanation for WHY he came out of the TV.
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Hypershell on September 14, 2009, 04:07:48 AM
it was just that Protoman was the bad guy and Wily's right hand that was what killed it a bit. lets say that Protoman was still a good guy, and Wily had some "invented for the show" rival robot. (most likely an evil clone of Megaman) I think it would not be that bad.
A shame that RS predates MM7.  ProtoMan's role would have been easily filled by Bass.

I found it rather hilarious, and sad, that in Season 2 they were using DARK MAN while still keeping ProtoMan evil.
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Flame on September 14, 2009, 04:13:09 AM
I woul have LOVED to see RS Bass. now THAT would be hilarious. At least Subtank made RS Zero.
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: The Great Gonzo on September 14, 2009, 04:14:39 AM
i cant see whats so bad about a fantasy setting such as that. a kids videogame character coming out of the TV. remember it was supposed to be simple, and sweet. and the story was simple. it would be too convoluted if they came up with some complicated explanation for WHY he came out of the TV.

It's not the setting that bugs me (even if "so-and-so comes in and out of a TV" is a plot that rubs me the wrong way). See, it's a HUGE deviation from the games, something that a lot of Megaman fans hate, but they don't complain about it. Ruby-Spears, though? About the worst that they did was make Protoman evil, and yet those same fans are all, "WHAT? PROTOMAN IS A GOOD GUY YOU IGNORANT PRICKS! BAAAAAAAAAAAWWWW!!"

...By that logic, people should be constantly flaming me for all the concepts I've written about, because I'm an American and Americans are not allowed to soil the sacred name of Megaman (or Rockman, since a lot of the whiners also strike me as weeaboos) with their own ideas.

I woul have LOVED to see RS Bass. now THAT would be hilarious. At least Subtank made RS Zero.

What about my RS-Bass? :/
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Flame on September 14, 2009, 04:21:22 AM
I meant how RS would have handled his character. as Im pretty sure He might have the same personality that proto has in it.

also, its because of the aformentioned "he came out of the game" that people dont mind. Its a different scenario. the very beginning of the OVA has Megaman in the game going through all the stages and beating the bosses. RS was "in universe" so to speak.
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: The Great Gonzo on September 14, 2009, 04:37:21 AM
I meant how RS would have handled his character. as Im pretty sure He might have the same personality that proto has in it.

You'd want the same character twice, then? (Then again, I think non-combatant hacker Bass would've made the whiners spontaneously combust.)

also, its because of the aformentioned "he came out of the game" that people dont mind. Its a different scenario. the very beginning of the OVA has Megaman in the game going through all the stages and beating the bosses. RS was "in universe" so to speak.

I still don't get it; different scenario or not, it's still a damned big change. Nowhere was it indicated in the game canon that the series took place in the "Game World". You'd think the fans would be bothered by it, at least.

In all honesty, I think it's just the fans saying, "Who cares how inaccurate it is? IT'S JAPANESE! *annoying pseudo-Japanese noises of happiness*"
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Flame on September 14, 2009, 04:46:21 AM
*shrug* Iunno. I liked both. For their own reasons. For the time, RS Megaman was MEGAMAN. it was THE megaman show. and like I said, honestly, back then, I thought megamn looked just like he was supposed to. its now that I notice JUST how different he was. and the OVA I watched like maybe a year or 2 ago, and liked it.

Each to their own I guess. But it amuses me that they used the test ep Wily clip for the commercial for RM7
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Bag of Magic Food on September 14, 2009, 05:21:35 AM
I meant how RS would have handled his character. as Im pretty sure He might have the same personality that proto has in it.
Bass doesn't strike me as the kind of character who would ever talk in Scott McNeil's sarcastic voice, though. That's just too funny!
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Flame on September 14, 2009, 05:23:50 AM
Proto isnt either, and yet he was.
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Bag of Magic Food on September 14, 2009, 05:31:54 AM
No, I can imagine the games' ProtoMan with that attitude, like "Meh, I'm too good for this mission", or "Yeh, lemme show you the real way to destroy another robot."

I also think Ruby-Spears would have taken Bass's name literally and given him a very low voice.

Hey... Maybe we should try dubbing the TV show's audio onto MegaMan 8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu4J-ZhDG_Y) to see how hilarious it can get!
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Gatuca on September 14, 2009, 05:36:46 AM
errrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, notice, some little temptation for flaming?

Well lets keep it calm, i bet that the readon why all the RS Megaman Hate its for one obvious reason, it was contemporany to the SF Fiasco that ocurred duriong the same time, and THAT includes de SF cartoon (the american one).

Im Not going to lie, back then i liked the megaman cartoon when i was a kid, in my country, but then i forget about it, and the, i just was a little indiferent about what i think of the show, i didnt hate it, but i didnt like it either, yes, i wasnt pleassed as much as the generic macho designs, i dont triying to sound like a weeabo and if i sound, i apologize in advance, but i founded the OVA and pilot designs more fitting and somehow cute..........but wait, i think something come's to my mind.....


You know what, i think what could been the solution to this dilemma, having 2 Megaman cartoons with different styles, a "Serious" Megaman Cartoon, RS Megaman of course, and a "not so serious" Megaman Cartoon, wich had the original designs and it was comical, but lighthearded for the kiddies, with a weird humor..........

you probably know what im talking about............and if you dont

That's No Good 8U
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Bag of Magic Food on September 14, 2009, 05:39:15 AM
it was contemporany to the SF Fiasco that ocurred duriong the same time, and THAT includes de SF cartoon (the american one).
But if it weren't for that cartoon, we wouldn't have the "Bison crying 'Yes!'" fad!
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Gatuca on September 14, 2009, 06:03:13 AM
By the Way, I Read that the OVA's were created BEFORE the Cartoonwas conceived, and watching at the pilot pictures, its obvious that they originally wanted to keep that style, but at the end, it happened what i happened
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Kieran on September 14, 2009, 06:49:18 AM
Hey... Maybe we should try dubbing the TV show's audio onto MegaMan 8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu4J-ZhDG_Y) to see how hilarious it can get!

It's surprising just how well that works.

I'll bet if that art style had been used for the cartoon, nobody would've had any complaints.
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Bag of Magic Food on September 14, 2009, 06:56:36 AM
Wasn't there speculation that the TV show influenced MegaMan 8's style?
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Bag of Magic Food on September 14, 2009, 08:09:06 AM
I woul have LOVED to see RS Bass. now THAT would be hilarious. At least Subtank made RS Zero.
What about my RS-Bass? :/
Does anyone have links to either of these pictures?  I tried searching the forum for "Ruby-Spears Zero" and wound up finding a post about your "Ruby-Spears Bass", but the DeviantArt link doesn't seem to work anymore.
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Flame on September 14, 2009, 08:14:15 AM
http://www.rockmanpm.com/i/flash/superfightingrobot.swf
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Bag of Magic Food on September 14, 2009, 08:21:34 AM
Heh, I guess I was too distracted by the Super-Deformed characters to notice!
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Keno on September 15, 2009, 12:14:28 AM
I loved the OVA. plus it was integrated nicely. Megaman comes out of the TV, and as he tries to sort of fit in, he learns of stuff. It wasnt just a culture lesson, and it was a very well made one at that. plus, the animation was really good. And the basic Idea was fantasy enough to work. kids favorite Video Game characters come out of the TV and battle it out in real life. What kid hasnt dreamed that at some time or another?
It would've been better if he hadn't & had just fought Wily & stuff.

RS Megaman is only enjoyable because it was hilariously bad. as in, its so bad, it good.
I guess. By that logic any cartoon geared towards American kids is bad, & I'd have to disagree with that.
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Girla PurpleHeart on September 15, 2009, 12:17:33 AM
Well, I've seen some episodes of Megaman on YouTube (Including the first episode and that Mega X one 8D). According to Megaman Wikia, there is a rumored about Bass (aka Forte) to be in the third series, which didn't happened at all. Instead, Ruby-Spears decided to end it series, due to their bankruptcy after 1996, this pretty upset the fans back then.
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Hypershell on September 16, 2009, 12:12:01 AM
You know what, i think what could been the solution to this dilemma, having 2 Megaman cartoons with different styles, a "Serious" Megaman Cartoon, RS Megaman of course, and a "not so serious" Megaman Cartoon, wich had the original designs and it was comical, but lighthearded for the kiddies, with a weird humor..........
It's not as if RS was without light/weird humor, though.  Rush in particular got the bulk of it, but the others contributed once in a while too.

This is pure rampant speculation, but I'm wondering how/if the change in art style affected their casting decisions, and at the same time wondering if the "anything not game/Ariga is hell" people need to be careful what they're wishing for.  I certainly don't see the RS voices fitting the literal game art style, and I have this nagging fear that we could have very well wound up with two seasons of MM8-level performances had the company tried to match voices to it.
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Keno on September 16, 2009, 12:29:25 AM
I liked when Roll got told she couldn't do things because she's not Mega Man.
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: The Great Gonzo on September 16, 2009, 12:42:01 AM
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and at the same time wondering if the "anything not game/Ariga is hell" people need to be careful what they're wishing for.
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we could have very well wound up with two seasons of MM8-level performances had the company tried to match voices to it.

Oh yes. D:

Reminds me of the OVA English dub. It's kind of...eh. Proto's voice makes me wish they'd let Mr. McNeil voice him as well, squishy game design or no.

Though his Japanese voice is even more ridiculous.

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Instead, Ruby-Spears decided to end it series, due to their bankruptcy after 1996, this pretty upset the fans back then.

If I remember correctly, Bandai/Capcom were the ones to pull the plug, because sales from other lines were doing badly.
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Bag of Magic Food on September 16, 2009, 12:52:00 AM
I liked when Roll got told she couldn't do things because she's not Mega Man.
I forget, why didn't she become MegaWoman that time MegaMan went to the future for no reason?
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: The Great Gonzo on September 16, 2009, 12:53:35 AM
I forget, why didn't she become MegaWoman that time MegaMan went to the future for no reason?

No time? She did get that awesome toaster cannon, though. That has to count for something.
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Hypershell on September 16, 2009, 12:57:52 AM
I always found it interesting that Roll is not meant for combat and yet is capable of vacuuming up cannon shots...
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Bag of Magic Food on September 16, 2009, 01:01:03 AM
Tim Taylor must have designed her arm.
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: The Great Gonzo on September 16, 2009, 01:04:38 AM
I always found it interesting that Roll is not meant for combat and yet is capable of vacuuming up cannon shots...

She got creative with her existing capabilities. Rock had squat.
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Gatuca on September 17, 2009, 04:42:31 AM
in my fangame, she's gonna have more than that >0<
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Keno on September 19, 2009, 02:08:39 AM
I forget, why didn't she become MegaWoman that time MegaMan went to the future for no reason?
When did he go to the future?
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: Flame on September 19, 2009, 02:13:07 AM
Something to do with wily and a time machine. it was a future where since Megaman dissapeared, (cuz he went into the future, lol) Wily took over the world.

or something. I didnt see it.
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: The Great Gonzo on September 19, 2009, 02:28:20 AM
Something to do with wily and a time machine. it was a future where since Megaman dissapeared, (cuz he went into the future, lol) Wily took over the world.

or something. I didnt see it.

Dr. Light made a time machine, which Dr. Wily attempted to steal; when that didn't work, Wily simply ordered the thing destroyed. Megaman shoved Dr. Light in it and set it for one minute in the future (more likely it was already set) in an attempt to get him out of the blast radius. When the machine returned Dr. Light was missing, and Megaman assumed the worst and went into the future to look for him.

Dr. Light had actually been thrown clear of the blast and was still in the present. I'm surprised Megaman didn't feel the need to break something after he returned and found that out.
Title: Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
Post by: geekgo4 on December 10, 2009, 11:51:35 PM
I always found it interesting that Roll is not meant for combat and yet is capable of vacuuming up cannon shots...
Maybe they wanted to make her useful?

Is it really a problem that they made a man out of MegaMAN?

Though, I did like how they protrayed the Super Robots, especially SnakeMan.