which reveals her impaling his head crest
her
lol
Lumine is a female, I hope you know... ::)
Axl: Don't let him get to you, X! He's the enemy!"
What are you? An idiot?
And what's this? On the front page of RPM you say? Gasp! (http://www.megamanx9.com/)
That was uncalled for
That only says that fans want a sequel, it doesn't guarantee that Capcom will make the game. But there is always hope as long as fan interest is there and Capcom doesn't bring the series to a close.
I know how it'll end:
Axl gets blown up and everyone celebrates and the world is full of flowers.
No Lumine is a guy it actually says it in game, besides his Japanese voice sound like a young boy like Axl.Yes, but in the NTSC version, he is voice acted by a female, which kinda misleads you into thinking he is a she.
Lumine is a female, I hope you know... ::)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/HitomiNeko/63368fd3.png)
Yes, but in the NTSC version, he is voice acted by a female, which kinda misleads you into thinking he is a she.
Doesn't seem like it misled anyone else...
Well, I never beat Normal Mode..just easy.(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/HitomiNeko/a3f63ef9.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/HitomiNeko/a3f63ef9.jpg)Is that the first time you did it this year? Anyway you didn't have to beat normal mode you could of just watched Youtube videos.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/HitomiNeko/a3f63ef9.jpg)
I never said it was X9. I'm simply stating that it's a better place to discuss something like that.
So the X series branch of this forum is less appropriate for such discussion because there is another fansite for it? It's fine if you want to discuss it there, but that doesn't mean we can't talk about it here too.
That said... I recall the effects of Lumine's attack on Axl being visually hinted at by Axl's white form, which sports Lumine's color scheme and removes the "X" scar from Axl's face. Whether it's possession or infection (unlikely due to Axl's viral immunity), I'd certainly like to see the matter resolved in the sequel. I just hope that Lumine doesn't literally become the next Sigma from that point, returning again and again and again...
I'd also like to see Axl's origins addressed. Honestly, the mysterious background does nothing for the character if nothing ever comes out of it. Although X8 revealed that Axl is the new-gen prototype, it didn't explain anything about the creation process, and what happened to him before he joined Red.
And let's not forget...(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v226/muchalucha/X5Wily2.png)
Quite an idea...What DID happen to him? Also, It leads me to ask...did Wily make Sigma?...How many X games have you actually played?
...How many X games have you actually played?
That said... I recall the effects of Lumine's attack on Axl being visually hinted at by Axl's white form, which sports Lumine's color scheme and removes the "X" scar from Axl's face. Whether it's possession or infection (unlikely due to Axl's viral immunity), I'd certainly like to see the matter resolved in the sequel. I just hope that Lumine doesn't literally become the next Sigma from that point, returning again and again and again...
Quite an idea...What DID happen to him? Also, It leads me to ask...did Wily make Sigma?
Quite an idea...What DID happen to him? Also, It leads me to ask...did Wily make Sigma?
I'd have to guess that Wily should make a comeback and/or possibly return as the antagonist and reveal more truths about Zero.
and before you ask, Mega Man and Mega Man X are not the same robot.
is it okay for me to facepalm now?Allow me to do it for you.
(http://www.scienceblogs.de/frischer-wind/picard-facepalm.jpg)
I wonder if anyone else, besides Hitomi, knows what episode of Next Gen that facepalm came from! 8DI have seen this facepalm in episodes when our dear Jean-Luc was exhaused from some adventure.
Rockman X9 will come for sure, since out in the world there are so many Rockman fans. The only question is "When?".
I feel with you guys.
(http://www.scienceblogs.de/frischer-wind/picard-facepalm.jpg)
alliterating like crazywell done! ten points to gryffindor
Did you by chance forget Dr. Cain here, who used the design notes from Light and used X as reference to create Repliroids, including Sigma? o.o
I'd have to guess that Wily should make a comeback and/or possibly return as the antagonist and reveal more truths about Zero.
I wonder if anyone else, besides Hitomi, knows what episode of Next Gen that facepalm came from! 8D
Give X9 to Inti Creates. Just don't make it SNES styled. MM9 was cute and all, but the X series has evolved past that sort of fanwank... I hope.My, my... If that happens we will probably see everything in Zero-Style. You know not everyone is found of that style.
Give X9 to Inti Creates. Just don't make it SNES styled. MM9 was cute and all, but the X series has evolved past that sort of fanwank... I hope.
Oh involving Inti is actually a nice idea which I can agree with. But only if They make X look awesome. And I wanna see how they would handle Sigma. He doesn't have to be the villain, but some sort of optional boss, just so I can see what Inti Sigma looks like.Don't forget some decent voice actors like in X8...and if Layer is in it change her voice.
Inti could even succeed in making Axl look cool.
Voice acting isn't required.True but it would still be nice.
Gameplay comes first. Always.
And I wanna see how they would handle Sigma. He doesn't have to be the villain, but some sort of optional boss, just so I can see what Inti Sigma looks like.
Oh involving Inti is actually a nice idea which I can agree with. But only if They make X look awesome. And I wanna see how they would handle Sigma. He doesn't have to be the villain, but some sort of optional boss, just so I can see what Inti Sigma looks like.
Inti could even succeed in making Axl look cool.
In other words, X1~3.
If that happens we will probably see everything in Zero-Style. You know not everyone is found of that style.But all the cool kids these days like to wear tiny tank tops and big hard rings around the edges of everything!
But all the cool kids these days like to wear tiny tank tops and big hard rings around the edges of everything!
(http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/1531/intisigma.png)
Do I want it?http://jecht-striker.deviantart.com/journal/23686029/ (http://jecht-striker.deviantart.com/journal/23686029/)
NO.
I feel it would be a VERY BAD thing were Capcom to make an X9. So many people are cheering and protesting for X9 to be made just so they can have another X game. There's even a site dedicated to the cause now.
Has anyone taken a moment to consider the sharp dip in overall quality the X games haven taken lately? Even outside opinions, it's there.
Why don't "I" want X9 to be made?
-X. X has been grossly deteriorating as a character in the games writing. This isn't a "hardened as the battles continue" motif going, he's just being written with near-total disregard to his past behavior. X7, he outright backs out from the frontlines and does... nothing but whine and complain. X8, he's just flat and dull, quick to accuse reploids of being mavericks and not trying to talk things through (sure it never works, but the important thing was that X TRIED.) Then Capcom went and placed the X8-X into Maverick Hunter X, which changed the game's mood dramatically. X isn't even the main focus of the current games anymore; first replaced by Zero (which wasn't so bad, given his role in relation to X), and then by Axl, who came completely out of nowhere. I can't bear to think about what they'll do to X if X9 is created.
-Axl. I've had enough of this unnecessary third wheel to the X series. I was sick of him the moment I started X7. You need a ranged character? You have X. (Oh that's right, he's not important anymore) Transformation? That's yet to prove particularly useful for anything. As far as I'm concerned, Axl has completely thrown the X-series dynamic off balance. The only thing that could make me WANT X9 was if he met his end due to the cliffhanger of X8
-Zero. Zero has been suffering from the same problem X has been; a degrading character. While Zero has remained the most consistant character out of the main roster, he hasn't been the best example of good developement. Iris' death, one of his main developement points, is rarely (if ever) referenced, and his involvement with the Zero virus and Wily was left completely unresolved. I don't feel confident Capcom is able to handle this issue gracefully.
-Navigators. I REALLY don't want to see Layer make another appearance, for obvious reasons to me personally.. Even beyond my reasons, Layer becoming romantically involved with Zero would make what happened to Iris pointless to Zero's character. Yes the logical thing would be for him to "move on" were he a "normal" character, but Zero ISN'T a normal character, and the impression Iris' death left on him would best be left a lasting one. Add the general pointlessness of Palette, that speaks for itself.
-Gameplay. X7 was an absolute bomb as far as gameplay went. Slow as mollases no matter who you played as. Lack of depth-perception made playing as Zero suicide; you'd always walk too far and into an enemy, or you have to kill an enemy just as you land from jumping over a gaping hole in the floor. X8, while more playable, wasn't necessarily much better. X8 was very mediocre for lack of a better word, and it doesn't reflect well upon the series.
-Story. After Capcom went ahead and not only sideswiped the X series with the Megaman Zero-forward continuity, but ravaged the very base of the series' plotline with Maverick Hunter X, I have very little faith in their ability to take X9 in a good direction. I wouldn't put it past Capcom to bring Iris back as a villain or in a way she'd be used against Zero, or do something that utterly shakes the very core of the fandom that attracts me to it.
These are my reasons. I know that I'd likely be doused in kerosine and burned at the stake for bringing these reasons up at the X9 site. Odds are they'd be challenged from every user there and I wouldn't know how to counter. But these are my reasons, and I stand by them.
While returning to Earth, he reminds himself of Lumine's words and secretly hopes that Sigma won't come back so that he can finally lay down his arms.
Had the series ended with X5 as Inafune originally intended, there would be no complains whatsoever (except as Hypershell loves to point out, the [tornado fang]'d up powerup system in X5) but no, they lengthened the series and thus threw in a lot of unnecessary stuff which only confuses players and changes characters for the worse etc.
I still don't see why people see X5 as any sort of end to the series. "X kills Zero (maybe)" is about the only 'final' thing about it.I´m still wondering how he came back after that
Hell, X3 would've fit better as a final game, since they use a freakin' anti-virus program on Sigma.
I´m still wondering how he came back after that
I'm going with "Gate partially repaired him and went cuckoo; Zero made a run for it and finished the job".I was wondering how he came back after X3....
All I can say is, Capcom should be given more credit; just because X7 (and X8 according to Mr. Striker) stunk doesn't necessarily mean X9 will. Capcom can still make good games, and we can't judge X9 by games that were released about four years ago.
X5's endingalso would not be too well off with Zero 1's intro. If Zero actually Dies in the X series, then why is he simply deactivated in Z1?
he was nearly blown to bits, reduced to his usual torso and an arm, Zero1 has him lying in an abandoned lab with the only visibly missing limbs being his forearms. X6's Zero sealing actually goes a lot better with the Zero series than X5 did. all X5 works for, is the explanation of X keeping Zero's saber.
I was wondering how he came back after X3....
X5's endingalso would not be too well off with Zero 1's intro. If Zero actually Dies in the X series, then why is he simply deactivated in Z1?
he was nearly blown to bits, reduced to his usual torso and an arm, Zero1 has him lying in an abandoned lab with the only visibly missing limbs being his forearms. X6's Zero sealing actually goes a lot better with the Zero series than X5 did. all X5 works for, is the explanation of X keeping Zero's saber.
The plot and initial setting of Z1 was vastly different from the actual game, which had been heavily modified to work with the Zero Ending of X6 (Z1 was already in production when Capcom decided to make X6, but came out after X6. X6 was November 2001, Z1 April 2002). Originally, Ciel was supposed to be something like a Cyber Necromancer who would use Cyberelves to bring back Zero from the grave. But since X6 established Zero as still alive, only to seal himself again in the end, the way Zero was put into this story was altered to make sense with his X6 ending. Too bad X7 ruined it all.
They also need to come up with a game between Zero 4 and ZX; how did Ciel get ahold of Zero's data to make the Biometal? Just how the heck did Zero lose his body but gain a new one? Even if they just released a manga stating all this I'd be happy.
I never did get why they completely trashed Zero's ending in X6, but I remember someone saying something about how that they MAY not be canon, and the events may have happened farther into the future (though, I doubt it was too far, isn't the Zero series about 200 years after the X series?)
but honestly, it's a video game.
Maybe canon-logically speaking he never did die in X3. After all, didn't you have to trigger his death by playing as him right at that moment?he meant Sigma. how did Sigma come back after being trashed by Dopplers Antivirus.
Not just a videogame, but Mega Man!
The games were never that great at storytelling.
It's why I love the Classic series so very much. I mean, besides Blues. It's why MM9 was just so [tornado fang]ing awesome! XD
how did Sigma come back after being trashed by Dopplers Antivirus.
Amen~ ^^ gameplay, music and lovely art before story~
simple. either Sigma evolved to counteract the antivirus, or Doppler [tornado fang]'d up while making the antivirus.
in b4 Sigma cloning...(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa215/I_am_X2007/SubtankSigmas.png)
wait, what...?
he meant Sigma. how did Sigma come back after being trashed by Dopplers Antivirus.
It's why I love the Classic series so very much. I mean, besides Blues. It's why MM9 was just so [tornado fang]ing awesome! XD...because it was bad at storytelling? I don't follow.
simple. either Sigma evolved to counteract the antivirus, or Doppler [tornado fang]'d up while making the antivirus.
Or it's simply the next X game and Sigma's back again for villainous purposes! 8DThese are about equally satisfying :/
Sigma's a virus. Do you really think he gathers his entire essence in just one place when there's still a chance of getting defeated by X?coughmooncough
...because it was bad at storytelling? I don't follow.
...because it was bad at storytelling? I don't follow.These are about equally satisfying :/coughmooncoughbecuz, Lumine said so.
(that is, i dont see why the moon would screw him over any more than previous 'certain death's, yet everyone is saying "oh no, sigma is really dead this time.", which just strikes me as horribly naive somehow)
Maybe canon-logically speaking he never did die in X3. After all, didn't you have to trigger his death by playing as him right at that moment?
Sigma's a virus. Do you really think he gathers his entire essence in just one place when there's still a chance of getting defeated by X?
I´m still wondering how he came back after that
The plot and initial setting of Z1 was vastly different from the actual game, which had been heavily modified to work with the Zero Ending of X6 (Z1 was already in production when Capcom decided to make X6, but came out after X6. X6 was November 2001, Z1 April 2002). Originally, Ciel was supposed to be something like a Cyber Necromancer who would use Cyberelves to bring back Zero from the grave. But since X6 established Zero as still alive, only to seal himself again in the end, the way Zero was put into this story was altered to make sense with his X6 ending. Too bad X7 ruined it all.
X6's ending doesn't fit well with the beginning of Zero 1 either; Zero went to sleep after the Elf Wars, so how could he have been sleeping if he was helping X fight in that battle?
If anything, what they need to do in X9 is: kill of Axl; he had no part to play in the Elf Wars, so he has to be gone by then, be it by death or simple resignation. They also need to have the start of the Elf Wars thrown in there. I don't care if the battle just starts when the game ends, but it HAS to be thrown in there somewhere. That way, there's a perfect tie-in into the Zero series, and less questions can be raised.
They also need to come up with a game between Zero 4 and ZX; how did Ciel get ahold of Zero's data to make the Biometal?
Yea, I said that Zero's X6 Ending "might have" happened way farther into the future.
I can't be the only one wondering why he's back up and running in Command Mission.
(that is, i dont see why the moon would screw him over any more than previous 'certain death's, yet everyone is saying "oh no, sigma is really dead this time.", which just strikes me as horribly naive somehow)
You know, sometimes, I read threads like this and imagine what would happen if other franchises tried to input stories into their games. I'd love to see how many eloquent debates would be had with like let's say the Mario series in that case. Laughing
On the other hand, Sonic and Metroid have stories and proper timelines, but they all have their issues, just like Rockman. Between those, I'd say Rockman's been doing the best job.
Plenty of Mario games have stories. Just nothing with a particular timeline. Zelda doesn't have one either, but it tries to make people believe it exists.
On the other hand, Sonic and Metroid have stories and proper timelines, but they all have their issues, just like Rockman. Between those, I'd say Rockman's been doing the best job.
There's plenty of reasons why Sigma is dead. First and foremost, CAPCOM SAID SO.He's dead until further notice, no doubt about that, but... how's that different from before?
And remember Sigma not being the final boss of X8 and being completely absent from XCM?
He's dead until further notice, no doubt about that, but... how's that different from before?because he never really "died" before. he was just defeated. you must remember, that Sigma's true form is that of the Virus. his Bodies are simply shells that hold him. when they are broken, he leaves and has a new one made.
handwavingCapcom?
Hmmm, it might be a toss up between Rockman & Metroid. But for the most part, I agree with this statement.
He's dead until further notice, no doubt about that, but... how's that different from before?
"Ariquick"?
also, i thought the mangas weren't Canon?
whenever someone brings up the Mangas for an explanation, they get the "oh the mangas were licensed by Capcom, doesn't mean they are canon."
in X8, what blew up WAS that virus
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You were doing so well before you said magic.
First and foremost, Capcom said this is his last appearance.Yes, you mentioned that. I just don't believe that even official announcements would guarantee his death. If they need him to come back, he will.
You were doing so well before you said magic.I stopped when he said X should look Z-Series'd.
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Axl can copy his enemies; isn't that good enough?
painfully illogical ideaseriously,
get out.
If we must change Axl, give him a weapon that no one's ever heard of but still gets the job done.
(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/7449/laserkeytar.jpg)
I call it the Kleyver-Tar
if anything i say give axl ability to temporarily turn into the bosses as well as his various firearms >.>thats what he SHOULD have done from the beginning IMO. otherwise hes just a clone of X with no charge shot. I mean, his transformation was pretty useless in X8 except for about 2 segments. XCM got it right in that respect. dont give him special weapons, give him Boss transformations. the different guns can be implemented similarly to Zero's different weapons in X8.
Kind of like in ZXA? That didn't work out too great. Maybe they could be some sort of compromise that are better than both forms.well, ZXA isnt quite the best example of how it could work. Model A works VASTLY different from Axl. Especially since, yknow, its not him.
(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/7449/laserkeytar.jpg)
I call it the Kleyver-Tar
Dynamo probably suits most on using that thing 8DI would have to agree. that way he can jam out to his awesome theme while kicking ass.
Dayamo
Who?
Well, Axl's transforming power is decent, and his flexibility with a large array of weapons is nice, but I'd like to see some form of Magic, or as the futuristic world of Sega's PSU puts it, FORCE. Also, the hover from X5 did bring some help for X. In addition, Sigma will be much weaker than his form leads on, revealing Lumine is back for vengence.
Plus, X did get a redesign during the Elf Wars, so that and Zero's redesign are both nessessary.
Also, considering the "New Character" thing, I'd think of having that as an unlock thing to get people to beat the game.
I'm thinking the new character should be a Create-A-Character, meaning you can go through the story again, but with a character of your design added to the roster.
Plus, though it was somewhat clunky, the X7 3D Mode wasn't all that bad. Give some improvement and it could be a lot better.
In addition, Dynamo was killed in X6, I hope ya'll know.
the person who revived Sigma in X6
DaynaGate
somehow....i loled.QuoteDaynaGatefixed... >.>
the hover from X5 did bring some help for X.Axl has the very same ability in X7 AND 8.
Plus, X did get a redesign during the Elf Wars,source?
In addition, Dynamo was killed in X6, I hope ya'll know.source?
the person who revived Sigma in X6what?
Also, considering the "New Character" thing, I'd think of having that as an unlock thing to get people to beat the game.
about the part with the Elf Wars
The guy who Sigma hired in X5 and the person who revived Sigma in X6
During a flash back from the Zero series, but whether or not it was just the Zero series rendition of him is kind of up in the air.artistic liberty.
and the only magic in Mega Man X is how Zero keeps his hair sexy and fluffy.and how it never gets cut off in battle.