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Other Things => Gaming => Topic started by: Jericho on January 27, 2011, 07:01:28 AM
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What to expect: Tons of PSP2 news and other goodies.
Damn, I've been slacking with the info fetching and relaying. Anyways, topic is about the conference set to start like.. NOW. Links to liveblogs on the event are below. Discussion is go.
Live blogs:
PS Blog (http://"http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/01/26/live-from-japan-playstation-meeting-2011/")
Kotaku (http://"http://kotaku.com/5744297/")
Eurogamer (http://"http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-01-26-playstation-meeting-psp2-announcement")
IGN (http://"http://ie.psp.ign.com/articles/114/1146221p1.html")
1up (http://"http://www.1up.com/news/psp2-press-conference-liveblog")
Engadget (http://"http://www.engadget.com/liveblog/live-from-sonys-tokyo-event/?sort=newest&refresh=60")
GameSpot (http://"http://www.gamespot.com/news/6286995.html")
Conference Start Times:
East Coast: 1 a.m., Jan. 27
West Coast: 10 p.m., Jan 26
Japan: 3 p.m., Jan. 27
England: 6 a.m., Jan 27
Sydney, Australia: 5 p.m., Jan. 27
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Um, I don't think the links work.
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I'm going sleep now so I won't get to see this live. When I wake up I expect the PSP2 to have been revealed at a ridiculous prize that will end up costing at least as much as a PS3 right now. If it's everything the rumors say it is I can't honestly see it any other way.
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So far the latest PSP2 info
-Dual analog sticks
-six access controls
-front and rear cameras
-new game media
-big big screen
-touch pad on the back
Posted on: January 27, 2011, 12:34:07 AM
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Looks nice!
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Twin analog sticks. About [tornado fang]ing time.
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Won't mean a damn thing if they suck as much as the one on the PSP.
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Except they actually look like sticks this time.
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Wow...... Way to compete against the 3DS, except that it probably will lack 3D. XD
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Judging by all the things this system has going for it (so far I'm pretty impressed actually), there's no possible way in hell this thing is cheaper than $300
Posted on: January 27, 2011, 12:54:38 AM
-NGP will connect with mobile networks
There's the possible Phone announcement.
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As nice as this looks, like PB said, there's no way this can be under $300. I honestly think that they're rushing this out to quickly. With these graphics and advanced interface, i would be genuinely surprised if this doesn't pass $400 at LEAST.
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At least it doesn't look like a small piece of [parasitic bomb]. Not sure how I feel really... as long as everything isn't download-able crap and there are actual physical games, I might be interested. Though hacking will probably commence anyway. Either way... It is what it is I guess. I'm more interested in the games, as I never care about the "functions" and "media" of the PSP.
EDIT: Blasted mods with higher powers than me. Double-Post button your post, PB 8|
EDIT 2: KTHNX!
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Sadly, I'm pretty sure they'll only go the Downloadable Games route with this thing.
LoL, and I was getting to that Sheepy!
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The game cards look SD-derived. Which is good, because SDHC cards (4Gb+) are cheap like crazy now at 20$+.
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Sadly, I'm pretty sure they'll only go the Downloadable Games route with this thing.
Excuse me while I start crying.
I think I speak for most of us when I say I want physical copies of at least most of my games. Especially those over $19.99.
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Excuse me while I start crying.
I think I speak for most of us when I say I want physical copies of at least most of my games. Especially those over $19.99.
It wouldn't bother me as much if it essentially didn't spit in the face of those beginner PSP owners who bought the UMD games and now can't play them on the NGP.
Also, I kinda wish it was called the XGP so I could name my system the Outlaw Star.
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Can I be really honest? PSP1 never once attracted me (and I'm sad that I missed out on some good stuff because I didn't jump on that train.)
PSP2 takes all of the flaws PSP1 had though, kicks them square in the nuts and substitutes so much [tornado fang]ing awesome. I really hope for something in the 250 range but I just know I'm going to be disappointed. I waaaant it. XD
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"I am currently working on a new project for that dream." -Kojima
Unless that title is ZOE3, [tornado fang] you Kojima! XD
I really hope for something in the 250 range but I just know I'm going to be disappointed. I waaaant it. XD
OLED touch screen, back touch pad, possible phone capabilities. I'm gonna say a 0% chance it's under $300.
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I'm going to put it in the ballpark range of 450-500$. I could be wrong, but this is the impression I get.
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Can I be really honest? PSP1 never once attracted me (and I'm sad that I missed out on some good stuff because I didn't jump on that train.)
PSP2 takes all of the flaws PSP1 had though, kicks them square in the nuts and substitutes so much [tornado fang]ing awesome. I really hope for something in the 250 range but I just know I'm going to be disappointed. I waaaant it. XD
I am honestly curious. What are the differences that I didn't notice. The flaws the PSP1 had that the PSP2 is gonna fix?
Again, not being condescending.
"I am currently working on a new project for that dream." -Kojima
Unless that title is ZOE3, [tornado fang] you Kojima! XD
It's just gonna be Metal Gear Fucksaijf;oedaw.
Now I'm being an ass. But it's sadly true. And ragefilling.
I'm going to put it in the ballpark range of 450-500$. I could be wrong, but this is the impression I get.
I will forever hate Sony even further. And will only pay $50 bucks, no less. Just like the PS3.
I'll also hack the [parasitic bomb] out of it with an axe.
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It's just gonna be Metal Gear Fucksaijf;oedaw.
Now I'm being an ass. But it's sadly true. And ragefilling.
Oh, no chance it's ZOE3.
I'm going to put it in the ballpark range of 450-500$. I could be wrong, but this is the impression I get.
I don't think they're that stu.....
....yeah
Posted on: January 27, 2011, 01:44:33 AM
Well that's pretty much it.
Here are the specs and everything courtesy of Kotaku (http://kotaku.com/5744485/the-psp-2-revealed)
Honestly, I think it looks pretty neat. It's technically what the PSPGo! should have been instead of asking customers to pay more for less. The PSP2 or NGP has a lot of potential, but the overlying issue is definitely going to be the price of the thing and judging by everything that we've seen about the NGP, I think it's safe to assume that at the very very least, this is looking to be $300+, possibly more. If anything, it's probably made the anticipation for their E3 conference pretty high right now, as this will probably dominate their E3 time. It most certainly gives them a hardware edge over the competition at E3 this year.
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One thing to note: despite augmented reality being present, Nintendo is not Sony's target with this handheld. In fact, I think they couldn't care less about the 3DS. Sony's going for a much bigger thread, especially with all that stuff about social media and 3G support.
Sony wants Apple. This thing is going to try and go toe-to-toe with the iPod Touch and iPhone.
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I read Bluetooth and quit the game. I hate this thing already. Touch screens... bluetooth, a buncha other crap I don't care about. Why not just call it PS3 Portable and run with it? >_>
I'm... so very sad. And I know I'm the only one who will be, because I'm a crazy tard who can't stand crunched technological multi-devices.
I mean, I look at this list and I'm thinking... "is this thing a PSP or a phone?" and we all know I hate phones. Well, I won't ruin it for you guys. You techies are gonna wet yourselves in various juices. >_>
I hope the sticks aren't useless though.
One thing to note: despite augmented reality being present, Nintendo is not Sony's target with this handheld. In fact, I think they couldn't care less about the 3DS. Sony's going for a much bigger thread, especially with all that stuff about social media and 3G support.
Sony wants Apple. This thing is going to try and go toe-to-toe with the iPod Touch and iPhone.
That's my big issue. But that's ALWAYS been my big issue with Sony. Microsoft too. They aren't game companies. They're overbearing technological corporations. And that's bad by my opinion. Of course...
inb4 lol opinions.
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inb4 lol opinions.
lol opinions
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I am honestly curious. What are the differences that I didn't notice. The flaws the PSP1 had that the PSP2 is gonna fix?
Again, not being condescending.
Well for one, I'm glad that Sony has (even if it's only partially as of now) realized that a portable device needs to be supported not by the amount of nerd [parasitic bomb] you can do with it, but moreso by the games and the potential for games that differentiate themselves from their console "big brothers". As much as the Uncharted/Killzone/KOjiPro/Epic UE3 stuff screams "O HAI IM A PORTABUL TRYING 2 FIT IN WITH THE BIG GUYS", stuff like the demo of Little Rascals, the implementation of their own Tag/Pass Mode, the playing with AR modes and face tracking/cameras, abolishing the battery devourer that was the UMD disc drive, and their comments on using the system as one means to bridge the gap between the console & portable shows me that they're learning to an extent. Now, as much as I paint a nice sounding picture of the future with broad strokes here while sounding really hyper for this one device, they can evaporate all of this goodwill. There's a ton of [parasitic bomb] going on here that can change things for the worst (rising potential dev costs and ease of making games for the little guys that can't go balls deep with the system due to funding, expertise, etc; Sony's insistence on making "Jack-of-all-trades/master of none" devices; the constant belief shared by like 98% of the industry that following or doing battle with Apple is the future for all game devices and they need to hop on that train "nao!" [Nintendo notwithstanding]) and set very nasty precedents for the portable realm moving forward, but I want to remain positive for now. Staying overly critical would only lead to me becoming jaded as the info on the system info begins to trickle out.
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One thing to note: despite augmented reality being present, Nintendo is not Sony's target with this handheld. In fact, I think they couldn't care less about the 3DS. Sony's going for a much bigger thread, especially with all that stuff about social media and 3G support.
Sony wants Apple. This thing is going to try and go toe-to-toe with the iPod Touch and iPhone.
Which will ultimately wind up possibly screwing them in the end. They are in NO way competing with the iPhone/iPod Touch crowd with this. They, like Nintendo, have their own private fanbase. This is why the price of the thing worries me, because all in all it looks like a solid device, but it's not going to compete with Apple or even adopt any customers from the Apple brand.
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I know you probably knew this, but that does nothing for me... since the DO NOT WANT and "bad" outweighs the "good" in this adventure of Sony's. I already see a thousand things going wrong, all of which only one has to happen really. Then there will be the endless revisions... which people will pay for of course. They always do.
Lets not toss out the potential for any form of "does not work because of too much crap stuck inside" syndrome, since that is the main contender as you've poked at yourself. I just... My natural hate for Sony and the fact that this seems like a step in the WRONG direction... eh.
But hey, I've never been one to really do this debate and discussion thing, since someone swoops down from above to ream me every time. And I don't feel like that happening again. I say... uh... kudos or whatever if Sony succeeds. But my bottom dollar says they won't.
Incidentally, I only have a dollar to my name. Or three rather. So uh, sony can have a dollar if they win.
Which will ultimately wind up possibly screwing them in the end. They are in NO way competing with the iPhone/iPod Touch crowd with this. They, like Nintendo, have their own private fanbase. This is why the price of the thing worries me, because all in all it looks like a solid device, but it's not going to compete with Apple or even adopt any customers from the Apple brand.
Also, this. ^
Uff. We're supposed to be thinking games... but it just seems like that is only "part" of the equation, not the main course. When it becomes the main course again, lemme know. HELL, even the PS3 still kinda has that right. It's mostly a gaming machine. Sure it "does everything" ([tornado fang] you, Sony) and all that jazz, but it's MOSTLY add-ons. Not overwhelming add-ons. Maybe it is just because it's a tiny hand-held that this seems outrageous? Maybe I'm an oldfag to the max. Maybe...
Maybe I need a new hobby. >_>
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Its funny but at the same time that PSP2 sounds awesome, it makes me develop a different kind of appreciation for the direction Nintendo took with the 3DS. They realize that first and foremost they are strictly a video game company and as such chose to focus on bringing something to the table that does one thing and does it well enough to set it apart from other devices that might do it as a side thought.
The moral here is that there is still a very real place for dedicated game devices and not gadgets of convergence, but the extent to which you swing in one direction or other determines a lot from the jump. Finally, on the subject of Apple, I have no problems with their products and feel as though simply relegating the success of their items to "selling to a crowd of devoted fans" does them a disservice. They (like Nintendo coincidentally) understand that before you think about how much something does, it needs to be able to do it reliably and with enough flair/substance to give them incentive to continue using their products. What I don't think is right is this increasing in intensity prophecy "those in the know" keep forwarding stating that the Apple manner of doing things is some revolutionary thing that will (100% without fail) kill off certain segments (portable game players being the focus for us here). They (devoted game portables & the smartphone as figureheaded by Apple's iPhone) offer two different utilities and while they may converge, they will never eat one another's lunch unless one gets bold and goes whole hog into the other's territory. At this point, it boils down into PB's point, if Apple jumps into gaming, they get crushed by the giants in the building (Sony/MS/Nintendo due to their combined experience and brand power in the field currently). Apple is run too intelligently to let something like this happen, which is why Sony's straddling of the line of "convergence device" is worry some. They need to have a firm identity for their system and build/rally off of that ASAP. If they go the "it only does everything" route, Apple [sonic slicer] slaps them in a iPhone revision or two and Sony has to scramble and answer the "what the [tornado fang] to we position this thing as to the mainstream" question that prevented them from being godlike in market share this gen outside of handheld land Japan.
And there's your "Jelly analysis" for the week. XD
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Hmm.
I actually have no real counter point to this that would just be redundant. I don't agree with everything stated here, but it was well said.
I'm also feeling the effects of sleepy time medicine... so yeah. I'd just look silly. XD
Kudos.
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"Freemium" gaming has proved popular for the Apple platform, guess Sony wants a piece of the action.
What I'm worried about is that Sony have put in a bit too much to achieve that; things like 3G and the various touch panels to be included make it seem to me that they want the PlayStation brand to become a service more than a platform. But only if the announcement of Playstation for Android, via the Sony Ericsson Xperia Play hadn't already brought up that doubt.
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I don't know about Apple being crushed in gaming. iPhone's finger sandwich type games are doing all right for themselves and are at a much more appealing price range of anywhere from $1 to $10. They're not overly long and rely on replayability for their audience to keep coming back.
If anything, it should serve as a cautionary flag that both giants should pay attention to. You also have to consider that your average consumer these days doesn't want to carry around a lot of gadgets at once with them, so when faced with bringing their portable game system versus a multi-functional machine that can play games, they'll usually side for the latter because of the other things it does (mp3 player, internet browser, e-reader, apps, video and photo camera, etc.)
In other words, it's going to be an interesting few years for the portable market, especially if the iPhone and Android phones keep getting stronger faster.
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I don't know about Apple being crushed in gaming. iPhone's finger sandwich type games are doing all right for themselves and are at a much more appealing price range of anywhere from $1 to $10. They're not overly long and rely on replayability for their audience to keep coming back.
If anything, it should serve as a cautionary flag that both giants should pay attention to. You also have to consider that your average consumer these days doesn't want to carry around a lot of gadgets at once with them, so when faced with bringing their portable game system versus a multi-functional machine that can play games, they'll usually side for the latter because of the other things it does (mp3 player, internet browser, e-reader, apps, video and photo camera, etc.)
In other words, it's going to be an interesting few years for the portable market, especially if the iPhone and Android phones keep getting stronger faster.
You know, as much as my little example was a "what if" that dealt with the possibility of Apple moving into high spec gaming a la the big three, this is an excellent point too. I'm guessing the reason why I didn't think like this initially is because I'm one of the old guard who thinks of games requiring more meat on their bones in order to be passable for a whole market, but in thinking like that I've kinda downplayed just how big an opportunity the bite sized gaming market can be. All it needs is its own Super Mario Bros or Tetris and this [sonic slicer] is getting lit up in a manner never before seen. XD
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Its funny but at the same time that PSP2 sounds awesome, it makes me develop a different kind of appreciation for the direction Nintendo took with the 3DS. They realize that first and foremost they are strictly a video game company and as such chose to focus on bringing something to the table that does one thing and does it well enough to set it apart from other devices that might do it as a side thought.
Well there in lies the difference with Nintendo. They, unlike Sony & Microsoft, are solely a video game company and really have no interest in expanding further beyond that. This is both their greatest strength as well as their greatest weakness. The upside of this is that because their systems are for the most part solely gaming devices, not only can they charge less but they can also focus more on gaming innovation than trying to make it "do everything." The downside of this is that when a certain system stops selling as well as they'd like, they put out a slightly better one or one with different colors and we pretty much go along with it. They also, in this regard, tend to neglect the other things that a huge chunk of gamers like nowadays, like better online support and such. With that said, I think we are looking at a new Wii announcement either this E3 or next E3 or sometime sooner than that.
Here's the thing with the PSP2, as I see it. Like STM said, they are most likely trying to compete with Apple's iPhone/iPod Touch. The problem with this is the same problem that the PS Move & Kinect might have competing with the Wii. It's trying to compete with a market in which one company already has an absolute monopoly on. Now, this isn't to say that the PSP2 is doomed to failure. Far from it. The techie crowd will support it and the Sony PSP fans have been looking forward to this thing for a long time now. Honestly, I see the thing as a "long term investment" for the Sony PSP brand, much like the PS3 is Sony's "long term investment" for their Playstation brand. In all fairness to Sony, the PSP2 is a step in the right direction for the most part. It's where the system needs to go, and it's what the PSPGo! should have been. The PSP brand will most likely never capture the handheld gaming market like Nintendo, nor will it capture the handheld mutli-tasking device market like the iPod Touch/iPhone. But there's no shame in being second, as well as offering things that both Nintendo & Apple cannot offer in either field. There is still profit to definitely be made here. Here's what I would do.
If I were Sony, I would fully try to market the PSP2 as "the gamers Multimedia device."
-First and foremost, the most important thing they can and should do is make the "mobile connection" thing an optional cost. Do not, repeat, DO NOT charge people extra to connect to cell phone networks (if that's what the thing can do) as well as force as monthly data plan on people, because the device is definitely screwed if they do that. Even the fuckin' iPad gives people that option, because Apple's not stupid enough to not give people that option. To be honest, making it have the capability of a phone makes sense, and ultimately there's no reason not to. But you have to give people options. With the ever growing market of data phones, it'd be negligent for them not to do this, especially when Sony is already in the phone market as it is and the PSP has the capabilities to do this anyway. Plus, you have the added benefit of the Camera & Mic for both Skype and that whole Face Chat thing that the iPhone does, as well as the already decent PS3 Bluetooth headset. But please please please, make this optional.
-Second and Dos'most, the difference between a PSP2 & and iPhone/iPod Touch should be that the PSP2 is a gaming device first, and "extra [parasitic bomb]" device second. From the looks of it, this will be a quality gaming device and offer a connectivity between the PS3 & PSP2 that makes a lot of sense, and one that I think is good for people that own both systems. With the power of each system, it could truly be a remarkable and innovative thing. However, with the beautiful OLED touch screen & possible use of the back touch pad, it has the potential to also be a powerful multimedia device, one that can show movies without the insane idea of having people pay DVD prices for UMD's, as well as a decent MP3 player as well, as well as a device that can check your E-Mail, Tweets, etc. Like with your PS3, market it as a "It Can Do Everything" device, but just remember that it's still for gamers. You are NOT getting the Angry Birds gaming crowd with the PSP2, so do not try to.
-Third and Treize Khushrenadamost, at E3, do not try to compare or compete with Nintendo or Apple. If anything, do your best to create your own niche fanbase for the thing. Thus far, the responses to the PSP2 announcement have been positive. You listened and gave people 2 Analog sticks. You added a touch screen, and brought something new to the table with the back touch pad. The OLED screen is beautiful. The device looks snazzy. You've shown that games can really look good on it. Try your best to build on that and do not target the iPhone or 3DS, nor their customers. You're not getting them. If you do your best not to embarrass yourselves at E3, the gaming public you are marketing this for and the crowds you are hoping to get will respect you more and more likely jump on board. It's simple business logic; when you respect your customers, they will be willing to pay more for something.
-Fourth and $most, be gentle with the price. A reaaaaaaaaally high price point will definitely scare away early adopters, much like the PS3 debacle did. I'd guestimate the majority of gamers are expecting it to be at least $300. Absolutely try your best to charge exactly that or less. Hell, if you can get away with $275, do it. Even though it's $15 less than $300, you can be assured that it still won't scare people as much as $300 or higher. If you market it exactly as I stated above, promoting everything it can do, giving people options and respecting your clients, $300 can seem like a bargain for the promise of the future of a true, true gaming multimedia handheld device. Plus, you'll also have 2nd phase adopters ready for the eventual price drop as well.
-Fifth & Crazymost, CUSTOMIZABLE NETNAVIS like in Megaman.EXE. That is all.
Wow that was long and fun.
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I'm just wondering how exactly is the back touch screen supposed to work? It's innovative, but why do you even need two touch screens?
Also, I'm with Mr.Sheep about the physical copies of games. I would hate to have something happen to that memory stick/card.
I'd imagine the price for this system will be an interesting one.
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[insert my [ray splasher] is bigger than yours argument here]
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I'm just wondering how exactly is the back touch screen supposed to work? It's innovative, but why do you even need two touch screens?
Also, I'm with Mr.Sheep about the physical copies of games. I would hate to have something happen to that memory stick/card.
I'd imagine the price for this system will be an interesting one.
[insert my [ray splasher] is bigger than yours argument here]
Also: Begin complaints of people wearing Hot-pants that it won't fit in their pockets.
PS: This will definitely require a carrying case. I wouldn't be surprised if I end up buying some sort of belt clip holster.
PPS: Way to screw up quoting, xnamkcor. owob
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When I asked about price, Yoshida replied, "We are not talking about price yet, but I hope that when we announce the price, people will say it makes sense."
Ohhhhhh man.
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I'm pretty indifferent on this. The specs and games and whatnot aren't very exciting. I really don't understand the purpose of the back touch panel. I do like that the sticks are elevated, but those things could get messed up if you put it in your pocket. And yeah, the price is going to be gross.
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I think the second stick is a nice addition. But I'd only really use it for Monster Hunter. It better be compatible with MHP3rd.
Aside from that, I'll wait for more announced games and the price.
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At this point, I don't think it's really going to fit in most people's pockets.
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True. It's bigger than a 2000/3000, and those don't fit into my pockets very well.
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Yeah, in terms of portability (read: PORTABLE) this would slip out of folk's pockets more frequently than it's rival handhelds. I had my 2000/3000 slip from my pocket (or butt turn-on) occasionally for it's size. The Go was in the right direction for size, but yeah, pricing is gonna be a bit like it's PS3 bretheren when it was launched.
Most likely, I can see some intresting games in the future, aside from the predictable launch titles.
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Yeah, in terms of portability (read: PORTABLE) this would slip out of folk's pockets more frequently than it's rival handhelds. I had my 2000/3000 slip from my pocket (or butt turn-on) occasionally for it's size. The Go was in the right direction for size, but yeah, pricing is gonna be a bit like it's PS3 bretheren when it was launched.
Most likely, I can see some intresting games in the future, aside from the predictable launch titles.
Why would you put an electronic device in your butt pocket? You must be rich.
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I wouldn't carry a videogame system in my pants pockets, period. That's what jackets with inside pockets are for. And I don't know about you, but mine can hold a PSP 3000 quite comfortably.
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I'm indifferent about the PSP2. As usual I just wait and see what games that REALLY catch my attention and keep it in a list till at least the 2nd revision (if that is to happen). Or just wait for a slight price drop.
The technology and stuff they managed to add in does look fun to play around. Actually, I do find it fun that both the 3DS and PSP2 are now following the "can check out friends list and communicate while playing". I like stuff like that, but that's pretty much it (although I like to play around w/ games that allow the custom soundtrack feature found in 360s and PS3s). But well, the games they announced don't catch my attention for the meantime, so i'll just keep waiting.
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I wouldn't carry a videogame system in my pants pockets, period. That's what jackets with inside pockets are for. And I don't know about you, but mine can hold a PSP 3000 quite comfortably.
I don't have much use for jackets where I live. PSP-1000 fits in all of my pockets.
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Where I live that's no problem, since you'd get robbed if someone saw you playing this thing on the bus or in your pants pockets. What really irks me is the battery life, since I usually rely on my psp and iPod to get me through long flights a short battery does not please me.
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I can cram extra charging time to make it last longer, you know, like an iPod (since almost everything requires a good charging time these days, it's nice to squeeze in a little extra charging time when not in use).
I can't see why everyone makes a big fuss over battery life. If it dies, just bring a freshly charged spare you recently purchased from the internet or Best Buy. Oh well, you can't please everyone.
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You can't replace the PSP2's battery.
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Then that plan's out the window. Funny thing is, people say the PSP2's battery life is better than the 3DS's. But I say it's no better.
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There will always be external batteries.
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You know, I'm sensing Sony about to pull an Apple with this thing. Charging like $300 to replace the unit's battery when it stops holding a charge.
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Thankfully, Sony isn't Apple.
I doubt they will ever be as awesome as Nintendo's support, but they won't charge 300 to replace a battery.
With Apple it's possible because their users don't really have the faculties to buy and replace their own batteries. If Sony were to charge such a large amounts, the NGP user would be more likely to cough up 10USD for a Tri-Wing Screw Driver, 50USD for a new Battery, and 10USD Shipping.
Especially when they've already gone out of warranty and there is no reason to not open up the device.
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You do have a point.
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Usually I expect my portable devices to be good for flights.
Which is the reason why the Game Gear wasn't as successful as the Game Boy. People don't like short battery life because the whole reason of a portable system is a long play time and being compact.
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I see the Apple-vs-handhelds deal as a modern extension of PCs-vs-consoles. Everyone SAYS the do-everything device will replace the rest. Everyone is wrong. What Apple is doing is getting gaming out to people who probably don't want to carry a dedicated gaming machine in the first place. So much the better, because in their fight to survive, the giants might remember some old tricks that they'd previously forgotten (like REPLAY VALUE, though Nintendo's better with this than most). Me, I want a games machine first, though I'd be lying if I said that decent music/movie/internet wasn't fun.
The PSP2 looks awesome, although I won't be getting one, since it wasn't that long ago I got a 3000, but it looks like a respectable machine. More so than I was expecting, since earlier reports suggested that it would be download-only and that appears to not be the case. Lack of UMD is I think a necessary evil. Sony learned that they simply cannot support a disc drive and a graphics powerhouse drawing off of the same battery, even if it is preferable to the Go. It annoys everyone and rewards the pirates who hack the thing to run off of memory cards. My only concern is how long the original PSP's network support is going to last, seeings how it is at current my only link to PSN.
I could tear into the inconvenience of size and the ease with which the analogue sticks would get mangled, but let's be honest; ANY model of the PSP requires a carrying case for rugged journeys. Most of us as gamers learned around the original GBA that as the screens get prettier, non-clamshell designs have to be treated like glass in order to maintain them. If it didn't phase Sony last time, it won't this time.
Dual Analogue is lost on me, as it has always been. The most significant use of a right stick I ever did was Cinnamon's Action Trigger in XCM. I'm really not sure how Dual Analogue is supposed to work with only two shoulder buttons, but if that's what the PSP crowd wants, good for them.
I'm sure the NGP will be expensive. Not necessarily proportionate to the tech, though (in terms of comparison to the 3DS), since Sony is generally willing to sell at more of a loss than Nintendo. They just have to watch that they don't take it to such an extreme as to launch some tech-giant that they cannot support at a reasonable price, as happened with the PS3's launch. In fact, I'm kind of wondering how money is going to influence things on both the consumer and developer sides. Everyone was bitching about sale price and dev costs when the 3DS was announced, and you KNOW the NGP is going to surpass that. Probably won't do the battery any favors, either, depending on exactly how high they're willing to jack that price up.
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Dual Analogue is lost on me, as it has always been. The most significant use of a right stick I ever did was Cinnamon's Action Trigger in XCM. I'm really not sure how Dual Analogue is supposed to work with only two shoulder buttons, but if that's what the PSP crowd wants, good for them.
With the rear touchpad, I really don't see a need for the right stick either, but it's not in the way and it opens up more options. I can't really hate it. It just seems redundant.
Also, I'll probably avoid touching the front touchpad.
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It's been pointed out that the rear touch pad opens up the possibility of "pinch" movements between the two. I'd probably consider that about as significant as DualShock 2's pressure-sensitive buttons, or Nintendo's analogue+digital override triggers. As in, maybe one or two games will use it for something interesting.
it's not in the way
That may depend on hand size (I'm ginormous, ask PB) and your tendency to pull the Super NES dash-claw maneuver. At least it certainly does with the Dual Shock controllers for me.
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Dash Claw?
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Using a second finger to hit the right face button to dash. It's for the guys that don't dash with a shoulder button.
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Using a second finger to hit the right face button to dash. It's for the guys that don't dash with a shoulder button.
Why would you not use the shoulder button? Did they not know there was an options menu, and by the time they found out, they already were too used to Dash Clawing?
Also, Command Dash.
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*reads the rest of the topic*
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*looks down at the ground and curses*
Hm.
*looks at everyone*
I hate you guys. Just thought you'd ought to know.
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Why would you not use the shoulder button? Did they not know there was an options menu, and by the time they found out, they already were too used to Dash Clawing?
Also, Command Dash.
Different strokes, man. Some people prefer to use the shoulder buttons for weapon switching.
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That may depend on hand size (I'm ginormous, ask PB) and your tendency to pull the Super NES dash-claw maneuver. At least it certainly does with the Dual Shock controllers for me.
Tis true. His hands are monstrous! XD
Why would you not use the shoulder button? Did they not know there was an options menu, and by the time they found out, they already were too used to Dash Clawing?
I, for one, love Dash Clawing. Like Sato mentioned, I like using the shoulder buttons for switching weapons!
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Why would you not use the shoulder button? Did they not know there was an options menu, and by the time they found out, they already were too used to Dash Clawing?
I prefer the Dash Claw personally, the A button feels more reliable to me for whatever reason.
Also, Command Dash.
Command Dash sucks :P
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Indeed it does.
I, for one, love Dash Clawing. Like Sato mentioned, I like using the shoulder buttons for switching weapons!
I dash-clawed until I bought X Collection. By then MMZ had warmed me up to shoulder button dashing, plus I got the GCN version, so I made the switch.
Posted on: January 29, 2011, 06:19:25 PM
I hate you guys. Just thought you'd ought to know.
You're neither the first nor the last. :P
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Until X4, I always just used my thumb to lay over the dash button, and never had a problem with it. After beating X4, waiting for X5, I went back and said "shoulder button probably makes a hell of a lot more sense" and had to retrain myself to use it, haha. Now I tried later for kicks to use to the old method, but I couldn't understand how the hell I ever did it that way. It doesn't work for me now. It's a good thing I did retrain myself, since Z1 was right after X5 and use it to dash.