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on: May 30, 2010, 02:11:43 PM
Okay, we played along with the idea of a topic like this in the Sonic Colors topic. So tell me your very favoritest games, the ones you think are absolutely brilliant and have no flaws at all. And I'll [acid burst] you off incredibly by saying at least 5 slightly justifiable bad things about them! No arguments allowed, except if I make any mistake on which game this or that factors into. I promise to make your very favoritest games look like complete pieces of crap. 8D

One rule, though. No Gunstar Heroes. Try as I might, I just can't find anything to criticize about that one. Seriously.



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Reply #1 on: May 30, 2010, 02:20:56 PM
Well then, why don't you start with Okami?



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Reply #2 on: May 30, 2010, 02:27:40 PM
Megaman Legends 1&2.

They're not my favorite games by a long shot, I just like to hear bad things about them.

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Reply #3 on: May 30, 2010, 02:36:06 PM
Well then, why don't you start with Okami?
Gladly!

- Why the hell do you need a scenery transition to fight? What is this, a JRPG?
- Why so much rolling of things? I want fun [parasitic bomb] happening.
- Some of the shapes you need to draw are unnecessarily complicated. Inverted Q for a bomb? Prone to failing at times.
- This is one of the games that provides me with more 2D models in a 3D environment. I like feeling like I'm in a painting, but these trees look ridiculous!
- Zelda style? Cool. Where be dem cool fun gadgets and items, dawg?

Posted on: May 30, 2010, 14:31:46
Megaman Legends 1&2.

They're not my favorite games by a long shot, I just like to hear bad things about them.
Aye.

- ARGH VOICES
- WALKING
- TURNING
- MOVING AS A WHOLE AAAAAARGH
- Repetitive environments
- Strafe and shoot = beat any boss
- Short game

(I played it on the PSP. PS1 emulator. IT WAS FRUSTRATING TO MOVE)



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Reply #4 on: May 30, 2010, 02:39:11 PM
No Gunstar Heroes? The how about it´s sequel/remake...whatever Gunstar super heroes?
Also I doubt you can find much against Half Life, Mafia - City of lost heaven and Super Mario World.


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Reply #5 on: May 30, 2010, 02:40:21 PM
No Gunstar Heroes? The how about it´s sequel/remake...whatever Gunstar super heroes?
Also I doubt you can find much against Half Life, Mafia - City of lost heaven and Super Mario World.

Choose one.



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Reply #6 on: May 30, 2010, 02:42:18 PM
I didn't see you mention UNDERWATER LURCHING in your Legends criticism. Even if you mentioned moving, the lurching is in a category of its own.

Golden Sun. Do them both; they were conceived as a single game, so criticize them as such. ^_^

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Reply #7 on: May 30, 2010, 02:44:31 PM
Superman 64



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Reply #8 on: May 30, 2010, 02:44:47 PM
I didn't see you mention UNDERWATER LURCHING in your Legends criticism.

It was fixed in the PSP version and with some emulator settings on epsxe and pcsx.

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Reply #9 on: May 30, 2010, 02:47:10 PM
I didn't see you mention UNDERWATER LURCHING in your Legends criticism. Even if you mentioned moving, the lurching is in a category of its own.

Golden Sun. Do them both; they were conceived as a single game, so criticize them as such. ^_^
Never played them, sorry. Should someday.

It was fixed in the PSP version and with some emulator settings on epsxe and pcsx.
Wasn't a part of any community when I played it, so I just inserted the ISO on the emu and that was it.

Superman 64
It would kinda make more sense if this was a "Good things said about bad games", but whatever.

- Controls
- Missions
- Graphics
- "Story"
- EVERYTHING
- ...THE FACT THAT THEY PRETTY MUCH INTENDED A SEQUEL



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Reply #10 on: May 30, 2010, 02:47:59 PM
Heh... Did you only play the first Legends game? Or did you play the second as well?

Also... hmm... Final Fantasy IX.

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Reply #11 on: May 30, 2010, 02:49:15 PM
Red Dead Redemption.

I will be purchasing this and I wanna know all the bad thing from the so called perfect western game.


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Reply #12 on: May 30, 2010, 02:50:05 PM
It would kinda make more sense if this was a "Good things said about bad games", but whatever.

...8D



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Reply #13 on: May 30, 2010, 02:52:03 PM
Hey, have you ever played...
Rayman 3?

If not, then maybe you played Mario & Luigi(the first one)?

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Reply #14 on: May 30, 2010, 02:52:38 PM
Ah yes, Superstar Saga... good choice, Kharaxel.

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Reply #15 on: May 30, 2010, 02:53:31 PM
Choose one.
Nah, pick the one you can say the most about :P


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Reply #16 on: May 30, 2010, 02:56:51 PM
I don't think any game is truly flawless, but I'm going to post one anyway.

No More Heroes. There's an easy one.



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Reply #17 on: May 30, 2010, 02:59:58 PM
Heh... Did you only play the first Legends game? Or did you play the second as well?

Also... hmm... Final Fantasy IX.
Just the first.

- WHY SO MANY RANDOM ENCOUNTERS
- On a ninth game, it would be expected to finally give up the old FF system (which wouldn't be dropped until XII, but still)
- No lovely bishonen cast of main characters I can write into my wonderful fanfics
- Soundtrack not as good as previous games
- Good to have a throwback to old fantasy style, NOT good to see pretty much a complete lack of evolution in the series

Lunchtime now. Will continue later. One game per reply, thank you.



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Reply #18 on: May 30, 2010, 03:06:03 PM
I could argue your points, but I see validity in all of them (except the music one, but meh) and agree with them all (except the music one, but meh).

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Reply #19 on: May 30, 2010, 03:40:10 PM
Red Dead Redemption.

I will be purchasing this and I wanna know all the bad thing from the so called perfect western game.
Sure.

- Damn you Horseshoe minigame, why you gotta be so frustrating?
- Multiplayer modes could have so much impact, but you can't play Poker online, or Blackjack, or do [parasitic bomb] like awesome co-op bank robbing events unless you just pick free play and mess around. (it could have been PERFECT PERFECT).
- Soundtrack is excellent, but not enough spaghetti western funkyness.
- Hunting and gathering challenges. I found out I had to kill 5 birds when I found out birds could be killed. After having killed an entire ecosystem of wildlife around the world. And that ecosystem didn't count a single point towards the challenge because I hadn't killed those damn birds yet. >_>
- ...did that kidnapped maiden just die BECAUSE I TOOK ONE MORE SECOND TO SHOOT YOU IN THE HEAD? AND NOW IT'S SAVED IN THE MAIN STORYLINE? GOD DAMMIT REALISM.
- What do you mean I can't camp and save anywhere near settlements? I know it's ridiculous if I set up a camp right in the middle of town, but as I see nowhere I can sleep in around here, it'd ridiculous to run 100 more meters in that direction where IT'S WILDERNESS ENOUGH for me to camp and save my game.
- Where the hell is my next bounty? I had so much fun with my last one. Damn hard-to-look-for Wanted posters.

Anything else, I haven't even explored 10% of the game, and I've clocked in tens of hours in it. So far, it's got so much stuff, it's friggin' perfect. Yes, it is the "Perfect Western Game" indeed. You know that notion of "You can do anything!" in hype for Fable games? They nailed it in this game, in my opinion. No marriage or kids, but you can pretty much do anything there is to be done in a fictional wild west setting. My favorite thing to do is to stand on top of a train with a friend, on opposite sides, and race towards the middle, all while shooting each other with loose aim. =P

(Gimme some time, I'll work on getting the other games done on this post)


Hey, have you ever played...
Rayman 3?

If not, then maybe you played Mario & Luigi(the first one)?

IMMA AWAITIN YOUR REPLY!
Alright, Rayman it is.

- YAY POWERUP. Wait... it lost its effect in like 3 seconds. >_> Why make me more powerful if I can only use this power in puzzles?
- AM I GRINDING THROUGH RAINBOW DIMENSIONS FOR LEVEL TRANSITIONS WHAT THE HELL
- "Livid" Dead, huh? God dammit I wanted some zombies. ;_;
- Bit linear and tight compared to the previous outings.
- Camera issues.
- Okay, so the first game and second game were absolute incredible revolutions of gameplay and action unlike anything we've seen before. What does this one bring to the table that's new and innovative? >_>


I don't think any game is truly flawless, but I'm going to post one anyway.

No More Heroes. There's an easy one.
Alright.

- Repetitive gameplay.
- FUN JOBS GIVE LITTLE MONEY, UNFUN JOBS GIVE BIG BUCKS
- All wrestling moves look pretty much the same.
- Letz Shake = Cop-out. I was promised ten ranking bosses dammit. >_>
- Most fights can be beaten by dodging and mashing A, dodging and mashing A. Why do you even need the wrestling moves?
- Easy peasy.

Nah, pick the one you can say the most about :P
Gunstar Super/Future Heroes it is.

- Remake? Sequel? Why make it anyway?
- Not just worse than the Godly first one, but there's pretty much no comparison.
- Character redesigns suck massive big monkey bawls.
- 3 choices of weapon ain't no substitute for the awesome combinations we used to have!
- Stop sucking so much, schmup helicopter section! You were made by the Ikaruga people, why do you suck so much?
- MINE LEVEL YOU CAN FLY IN THE MIDDLE THAT AIN'T NO WAY TO REMAKE THE BEST BOSS BATTLE OF ALL TIME

GOD DAMMIT WHY WAS THIS GAME NECESSARY. Remakes aren't meant to be worse than the original. >_> AND IS IT A SEQUEL OR A REMAKE


Okay, all done. Bring me more games, or give me some feedback.



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Reply #20 on: May 30, 2010, 03:58:34 PM
Ok I chose Half Life then.


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Reply #21 on: May 30, 2010, 04:09:11 PM
Ok I chose Half Life then.
Can it be Half-Life 2? I haven't played the original in a long time.

- (this relates to back when I got it at launch) I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS INSTALATION FOR 12 HOURS. WHY DO I NEED TO INSTALL STEAM AND FOR IT TO CHECK EVERY SINGLE FILE JUST FOR ME TO PLAY ONE GODFORSAKEN GAME?
- Incredibly linear, with a few unexciting events midway.
- Level design can get a bit boring in parts.
- Gravity puzzles are NOT fun. Tedious and obvious. Yes I know your game has cool gravity features. I still dislike going to hunt for boxes.
- I am jumping on your head and shooting grenades everywhere. Why are you talking to me as if nothing happened?
- Screw fan communities jizzing over them, Alyx and the rest of the characters are as genetic and uninteresting as they can get.



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Reply #22 on: May 30, 2010, 04:13:45 PM
Well, I haven´t played 2 yet... I wonder if the Orange box contains HL 2 aswell


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Reply #23 on: May 30, 2010, 04:27:19 PM
Well, I haven´t played 2 yet... I wonder if the Orange box contains HL 2 aswell
It does. And if you want, I'll do the bad things about Half-Life 1 right here.

- XEN
- XEN
- XEN
- XEN
- XEN

Seriously, screw Xen. >_>;;;



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Reply #24 on: May 30, 2010, 04:30:16 PM
Well, you can fight a giant Testicle there 8D
It does.
Like really..damn and it´s cheap too. Well now I know what to do!