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on: November 15, 2008, 01:22:44 AM
Everyone knows what happens at the end of Rockman Zero 4 and that itself provoked many theories to try to prove Zero's survival bringing up others who without question stand by the rather obvious answer. Some people even suggest the idea of a Rockman Zero 5 (wth?). I'm wondering...looking at every evidence provided by Capcom (including 'RMZ Complete Works' and such sources) I am still not sure. Could anyone tell me their thoughts on the subject?

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Reply #1 on: November 15, 2008, 01:25:31 AM
Doubtful there'll be a Zero 5, but if they did, I wouldn't be too surprised. It's freakin' Zero, the guy refuses to die, even if he committed suicide.



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Reply #2 on: November 15, 2008, 01:29:50 AM
If they make a Rockman Zero 5 they kill Zero's legacy that's so wrong. D:
(at the same time they don't make it Zero doesn't necessarily have to die).

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Reply #3 on: November 15, 2008, 01:29:56 AM
Into works a weeny bit faster than Capcom. If there was a Zero 5 we would have played it by now.

And goddamnit he's [tornado fang]ing dust.



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Reply #4 on: November 15, 2008, 01:31:05 AM
There is a Zero 5. its called Megaman ZX.

...When Larry the reploid accountant goes maverick of his own accord, he's certainly formidable during tax season, but he isn't going to provide X the challenge needed to make him grow as a warrior and reach his potential.


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Reply #5 on: November 15, 2008, 01:34:26 AM
That could well enough be the answer but it happens at least 200 years after Zero 4.

What happens in that gap could be used for Rockman Zero 5 or just not used at all (like right now -_-.

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Reply #6 on: November 15, 2008, 01:35:50 AM
Ciel makes Biometals. Takes her 199 years.

ZX starts.



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Reply #7 on: November 15, 2008, 01:39:42 AM
Ciel makes Biometals. Takes her 199 years.

ZX starts.

I think her being as smart as she is (she created Copy X at 9 and the Ceil System at 15) it did not take her 199 years to make LiveMetals X,Z,H,L,F, and P xD

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Reply #8 on: November 15, 2008, 01:44:44 AM
Let's just sit down, chant and summon Zan. Maybe he'll hear our plea and enlighten us with his neverending knowledge.



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Reply #9 on: November 15, 2008, 01:46:05 AM
Let's just sit down, chant and summon Zan. Maybe he'll hear our plea and enlighten us with his neverending knowledge.

^This.



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Reply #10 on: November 15, 2008, 02:00:50 AM
Let's just sit down, chant and summon Zan. Maybe he'll hear our plea and enlighten us with his neverending knowledge.
I'll take care of the smoke signals.



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Reply #11 on: November 15, 2008, 02:03:58 AM
Let's just sit down, chant and summon Zan. Maybe he'll hear our plea and enlighten us with his neverending knowledge.
Quoted, and Sigged for great Justice and F*cking Win.

...When Larry the reploid accountant goes maverick of his own accord, he's certainly formidable during tax season, but he isn't going to provide X the challenge needed to make him grow as a warrior and reach his potential.


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Reply #12 on: November 15, 2008, 02:05:53 AM
...might as well help. *joins Mr.DominicanZero in making smoke signals*

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Reply #13 on: November 15, 2008, 02:06:51 AM
Mr.DominicanZero
this made me chuckle.

...When Larry the reploid accountant goes maverick of his own accord, he's certainly formidable during tax season, but he isn't going to provide X the challenge needed to make him grow as a warrior and reach his potential.


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Reply #14 on: November 15, 2008, 06:17:01 AM



Even if they he did somehow come back for Zero 5, he'd have to die at the end of that to set things up for ZX. Better to not expend the effort.



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Reply #15 on: November 15, 2008, 07:01:08 AM



Even if they he did somehow come back for Zero 5, he'd have to die at the end of that to set things up for ZX. Better to not expend the effort.

Why is that? In Rockman ZX there isn't any mention of his 'death' (that I know of at least). Please, enlighten me = )

Also I don't believe there will be a RMZ5 unless the fans demand it, and so far not many requests...[they all accept his death]
Let's say there shall not be a RMZ5, Zero is still alive and it wouldn't make a difference.

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Reply #16 on: November 15, 2008, 07:07:13 AM
Er...

MegaMan ZX = MegaMan Zero 5, for all intents and purposes.



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Reply #17 on: November 15, 2008, 07:29:22 AM
Why is that? In Rockman ZX there isn't any mention of his 'death' (that I know of at least). Please, enlighten me = )

Well, yeah, I guess it is possible that he's still alive in ZX. Just sitting around doing nothing. Because, y'know, that's reasonable. And in character. And the live metals have nothing to do with the people they're based off, they just have the same personalities/voices/memories because Ciel made them like that. Yeah.


I think I'm gonna keep believing he died at the end of Zero 4, thanks.



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Reply #18 on: November 15, 2008, 07:52:26 AM
Aye, thanks for the discussion. ^_^

Posted on: November 15, 2008, 07:35:06
Wow...........

Posted on: November 15, 2008, 07:51:16
[objection!]


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Reply #19 on: November 15, 2008, 07:53:48 AM
Whats that? I hear a KA-BAN!


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Reply #20 on: November 15, 2008, 07:56:29 AM
Honestly do people actually buy this just because they see this crap advertisement in a random forum. Pathetic way to get customers if you ask me... <.<

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Reply #21 on: November 15, 2008, 09:30:13 AM
Let's just sit down, chant and summon Zan. Maybe he'll hear our plea and enlighten us with his neverending knowledge.

You don't need my help to figure out what happened to Zero, cause if you do, you're either stupid or not paying enough attention.

Now, the "why" is far more interesting; Wily isn't around anymore, he got taken care of after X6 in that one unreleased game.




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Reply #22 on: November 15, 2008, 12:29:41 PM
You don't need my help to figure out what happened to Zero, cause if you do, you're either stupid or not paying enough attention.

I'm just too lazy. And since you're usually around...

Anyway, yaya2000something is gone.



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Reply #23 on: November 15, 2008, 05:34:10 PM
Just to spell it out, Zero's body got destroyed Ragnarok's explosion and atmospheric re-entry, he died. X wasn't around to bail him out from orbit like in Z1, Wily got taken care of back in the X-series, so Zero isn't reviving and Mother Elf is doing whatever she pleases. Later, Ciel creates Biometal Model Z using the soul of Zero, but that was only made possible thanks to her study of Biometal Model V, reviving Zero is like reviving X, a highly difficult thing.

Summarizing, he died and became a morphing device.




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Reply #24 on: November 15, 2008, 08:31:24 PM
Neither one of us is right.

The legendary Reploid who fought valiantly and was known as a hero during the Maverick Wars. Though the soul is indeed that of Zero, the body that Ceil found him in was a copy of the original. Zero's original body, which had caused much damage during the Elf Wars, had been sent into space, and is now known as Omega. But Zero's new body, showing at least as much if not more potential than the last, has saved the world twice over from the evil intentions of Omega and Weil, the man controlling him. Zero was last seen in space. His current whereabouts unknown. Quote from Rockman Zero Complete Works page 24.

I am betting that not even Capcom knows what happened to Zero afterward (they're too lazy to come up with something). The last two sentences from the quote above basically has Capcom saying that no one knows for a fact what happened to Zero. Also this may be used to spark new theories by fans. The truth is that Capcom still is waiting to see if they are going to make a RMZ5 (if there are enough fan demands on it) or just keep it a mystery to further Zero's legacy.

Also according to this...


????: Biometal Report Classification #555913 * Chosen One * This message is
intended for the chosen one who will someday find the Biometal I have created.
In order to fight against Model W, which has been causing the Maverick
outbreaks, I have constructed Model X and Model Z with the data I have obtained
on ancient heroes.
There is still so much I don't understand... And I was forced
to use the research on Model W as a basis for constructing the other two models.
In other words, the ones with the potential to use Model X and Z, are the same
one with the potential to unleash Model W. As a chosen one, you have the power
to save or destroy the world. I can only hope you use the power for good and
that you will decide to guide the people to a bright future.
Quote from Rockman ZX

...what you say about Model Z containing Zero's soul (lack of a better word) is wrong.

Personal opinion: I never said Zero survived by being saved by someone (ex. Mother Elf, X, etc). He would have survived all by himself (beside the point so excuse that last statement).

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