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Reply #25 on: October 19, 2009, 09:19:38 PM
No, we need to evaluate the workings of time travel in every other fictional universe first.



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Reply #26 on: October 19, 2009, 09:26:09 PM
It will only be food for thought since it is irrelevant to Megaman.

...When Larry the reploid accountant goes maverick of his own accord, he's certainly formidable during tax season, but he isn't going to provide X the challenge needed to make him grow as a warrior and reach his potential.


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Reply #27 on: October 20, 2009, 09:48:12 AM
No, we need to evaluate the workings of time travel in every other fictional universe first.
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Reply #28 on: October 20, 2009, 08:26:23 PM
You'd be better off just linking to the the tvtropez articles on time travel. That should cover pretty much every concept.

Thing is, time travel is something that's impossible in reality; it's solely a fictional device. As solely fictional, the logic behind is different for each fictional universe and might not even be internally consistent. As such, we only need to focus on the time travel intricacies of the Rockman universe. Other fictional universes are only relevant in comparing if similar mechanics are at work.

In regards to Quint, it is a future that still may come to pass. And it's a future that's highly interesting to delve into when comparing it to the X-series.



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Reply #29 on: October 20, 2009, 08:39:18 PM
Not so much impossible as "no idea how it could possibly work". Very few things are definitely impossible according to science, one example being the perpeetum mobile.

But I digress.



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Reply #30 on: October 20, 2009, 09:24:30 PM
Not so much impossible as "no idea how it could possibly work". Very few things are definitely impossible according to science, one example being the perpeetum mobile.

But I digress.

Both the perpetual motion machine and time travel are for similar reasons impossible: the laws of thermodynamics. The perpetual motion machine is impossible by the first law, time travel is impossible by the second law. To achieve either, you need to literally rewrite the physics of the universe to do the exact opposite of what they do know, and maybe duplicate yourself to replace you who has stepped outside of the influence of negative time in order to ensure the past is the very past you remember.

Very easy to do in fiction, 'impossible' in the real world.

Which is very much why I said link to tvtropez instead of link to wikipedia >.>

In Rockman, it seems quite easily done, if your name is Wily or Light. Makes you wonder why this technology never appeared in the future. Not even Chronoforce controls time, apparently that's just the perception of time for robotic lifeforms (though certain game mechanics make this very questionable.) And who knows what Crystal Snail actually does to mess up your gameplay. TimeMan and Flashman on the other hand really do seem to manipulate time.



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Reply #31 on: October 20, 2009, 10:42:34 PM
I think you meant the second law for both? Although I don't see why it'd prevent time travel, any more than other laws of nature. There's plenty of problems with time travel, but nothing that explicitly rules it out.



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Reply #32 on: October 21, 2009, 01:31:13 AM
Time travel is fictitious because time itself is imaginary. It exists only as a pretend reference point.



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Reply #33 on: October 21, 2009, 04:36:19 PM
Time travel is fictitious because time itself is imaginary. It exists only as a pretend reference point.
DEEP.

Seriously tough, it does not matter if it's possible IRL or not. We are focusing on a time travel in a fictional universe where blue robot fights for EVERLASTING PEACE.



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Reply #34 on: October 21, 2009, 08:28:12 PM
Yeah but what if a blue robot fought for everlasting peace in the real world?



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Reply #35 on: October 22, 2009, 12:11:56 AM
Yeah but what if a blue robot fought for everlasting peace in the real world?
But the thing is, he does not, and never will.
This is what matters.



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Reply #36 on: October 22, 2009, 12:31:07 AM
We'll just see about that!  (BWAHAHA)



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Reply #37 on: October 22, 2009, 09:40:36 AM
I have a Mega Man in my garage.



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Reply #38 on: October 22, 2009, 09:58:48 AM
I have a Mega Man in my garage.
I, on the other hand, have Batman in my basement.
WHAT NOW?!



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Reply #39 on: October 22, 2009, 10:20:59 AM
Mega Man could beat Batman if he had his weakness, & Batman could beat Mega Man if he knew his.

It's pretty fair.



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Reply #40 on: October 22, 2009, 10:24:29 AM
Mega Man could beat Batman if he had his weakness, & Batman could beat Mega Man if he knew his.

It's pretty fair.
Don't you know? Batman with enough prep time, could take on anyone. Even Superman.

Jesus, now I'm going off topic. [tornado fang].



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Reply #41 on: October 22, 2009, 10:27:47 AM
batman has kryptonite in his belt, he doesn't need preperation to beat clark.



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Reply #42 on: October 22, 2009, 10:30:21 AM
Batman had plans on how to take down each member of the League.  Ra's Al Ghul stole them from the Batcomputer.  Man, Tower of Babel was one of the best story arcs ever.



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Reply #43 on: October 22, 2009, 10:48:05 AM
Batman had plans on how to take down each member of the League.  Ra's Al Ghul stole them from the Batcomputer.  Man, Tower of Babel was one of the best story arcs ever.
I've read that.... well some of it. I think I'll have to do it again.

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Reply #44 on: October 22, 2009, 11:53:25 AM
I, on the other hand, have Batman in my basement.
WHAT NOW?!
I remember when I first heard there was a Batman episode called "I've Got Batman In My Basement" featuring The Penguin, I imagined it as something like The Penguin locking Batman up in his own basement, and Batman would spend the episode finding a way out before The Penguin caused too much mischief.

I still like to imagine The Penguin singing that title to the tune of the Yoshi Egg Challenge selection tune in Super Mario Advance 1.  (No, I don't have a place for you to listen to it, since apparently everybody who uploads soundtracks doesn't bother to complete the dang game.)



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Reply #45 on: October 22, 2009, 03:03:45 PM


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Reply #46 on: October 22, 2009, 06:12:27 PM
What a coincidence
What kind of [tornado fang]ing shitty ass article is this? NO MENTION OF LEGACY OF KAIN?! [tornado fang] it.



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Reply #47 on: October 22, 2009, 07:56:25 PM
batman has kryptonite in his belt, he doesn't need preperation to beat clark.
I suppose that without prep time Supes would just superspeed punch him before he could get it out of the belt pouch.



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Reply #48 on: October 22, 2009, 08:34:26 PM
Don't you know? Batman with enough prep time, could take on anyone. Even Superman.
Not necessarily. Mega Man has the same super power. I mean, it's just a matter of whether Mega Man can get a Kryptonite weapon &/or Batman can get Thunder Beam.

I suppose that without prep time Supes would just superspeed punch him before he could get it out of the belt pouch.
Assuming it's contained in lead in the pouch.

Let's not forget that Superman can be beat to death without any Kryptonite being involved.



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Reply #49 on: October 22, 2009, 10:25:17 PM
Not by Batman. And even with the Bat Bot from "The Batman" it's only stalling for time. Kryptonite's the way to go. Its just a matter of getting it out before he makes sure you dont. though, given the series' that seems fairly easy. he never seems to see it coming.

...When Larry the reploid accountant goes maverick of his own accord, he's certainly formidable during tax season, but he isn't going to provide X the challenge needed to make him grow as a warrior and reach his potential.