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Title: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Emiri Landeel on March 23, 2010, 09:13:24 AM
http://kotaku.com/5499697/nintendo-announces-new-hardware-the-nintendo-3ds (http://kotaku.com/5499697/nintendo-announces-new-hardware-the-nintendo-3ds)

I also checked Nintendo Japan IR site and found the document.
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2010/100323.pdf (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2010/100323.pdf)

This is gonna be interesting.

Document translation from NEOGAF.
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- New portable hardware
- To be announced at E3
- Uses 3D w/o need for glasses
- Backwards compatible with DS, DSi
- Release BEFORE March 2011

March 23, 2010

To Whom It May Concern:
Re: Launch of New Portable Game Machine

Nintendo Co., Ltd. (Minami-ward of Kyoto-city, President Satoru Iwata) will launch "Nintendo 3DS"(temp) during the fiscal year ending March 2011, on which games can be enjoyed with 3D effects without the need for any special glasses.

"Nintendo 3DS"(temp) is going to be the new portable game machine to succeed "Nintendo DS series", whose cumulative consolidated sales from Nintendo amounted to 125million units as of the end of December 2009, and will include backward compatibility so that the software for Nintendo DS series, including the ones for Nintendo DSi, can also be enjoyed.

We are planning to announce additional details at E3 show, which is scheduled to be held from June 15, 2010 at Los Angeles in the U.S.
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Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: The Drunken Dishwasher on March 23, 2010, 02:19:50 PM
Wow...

Well.  I think i'll be patient for this 'info' at E3'10.  Though one pic I did like from the Kotaku comments I must add.

[spoiler](http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/9/2010/03/3bc7dd5638d81920e6f2771d55ac21f0/340x.jpg)[/spoiler]
 
 
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: borockman on March 23, 2010, 02:22:29 PM
Portable 3D gaming? very interesting, Nintendo has done it again!

Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Flame on March 23, 2010, 02:23:43 PM
The battery is low!
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Rin on March 23, 2010, 03:25:32 PM
HOLY [parasitic bomb]! I... don't care in the least.
3D gaming? I mean, REALLY?
Ha, ha, ha... OH WOW.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on March 23, 2010, 04:02:19 PM
So...pretty much a brand new Virtual Boy that doesn't make you blind?

Can't wait for E3. I really REALLY hope this is not region locked *glares at DSi*
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Ike-Mike on March 23, 2010, 04:37:38 PM
Related. (http://seanmalstrom.wordpress.com/2010/03/23/is-iwata-trying-to-lead-his-competitors-down-the-wrong-road/)

Also 2011 already? Sheesh, I don't feel burned out this gen at all. In the last few gens after the consoles have been there for 3-4 years you felt a sense of closure, that you've already played everything that the new consoles could offer, but right now I feel like this gen is just beginning.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Psycho Yuffie on March 23, 2010, 05:22:59 PM
3D? I...don't care. It's nice that it won't require glasses, but it still feels too gimmicky to me. Worse: it has motion sensing? This is looking like the one Nintendo handheld I won't be getting.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sub Tank on March 23, 2010, 05:31:54 PM
I'd join team "I don't care," but maybe I want a game where Samus' ass pops out of the screen.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: HyperSonicEXE on March 23, 2010, 05:40:29 PM
I expect, no, DEMAND a Back to the Future game with the 3D Jaws movie bit!  owo

Gamecube-like processor? Imagine seeing the cel-shaded bomb explosions of Wind Waker pop out at you.

Ladies and gents, this is glorious. It may be attempting to tackle too many features at once, but we kinda expect that out of Nintendo, and the DSi has done...decently...with the touch screen, microphone, and camera, considering.

Saving up.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Psycho Yuffie on March 23, 2010, 05:44:13 PM
I wasn't a fan of the touch screen or the dual screens. I put up with it, though, because a lot of the games were good, but let's put it this way: 3D gives people migraines. Even if the system had the best games in the world, I wouldn't play it because I hate getting migraines.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: HyperSonicEXE on March 23, 2010, 05:46:24 PM
If it's backwards compatible with the DS software, and keeping that in mind, I'd imagine that there'll be some sort of On/Off setting for the 3D.

Not like most of the 3DS games are going to be 3D anyway; it's new tech, and it'll take a while for the Shovelware devs to get a grasp on that.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Psycho Yuffie on March 23, 2010, 05:49:09 PM
If it's backwards compatible with the DS software, and keeping that in mind, I'd imagine that there'll be some sort of On/Off setting for the 3D.

Not like most of the 3DS games are going to be 3D anyway; it's new tech, and it'll take a while for the Shovelware devs to get a grasp on that.
Well, I'll give you that it's possible that they might make a switch to turn the 3D on or off. That would probably get me interested. After all, you can play most Wii games with a GameCube controller. Nintendo had the foresight to know that not everyone is going to like motion controls.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Ike-Mike on March 23, 2010, 05:53:12 PM
The 3D used on it might not be rotoscopic, which is the primary reason why 3D gives headaches.
And I have absolute faith in Nintendo to keep that in mind when they were making it.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on March 23, 2010, 05:58:55 PM
I wasn't a fan of the touch screen or the dual screens. I put up with it, though, because a lot of the games were good, but let's put it this way: 3D gives people migraines. Even if the system had the best games in the world, I wouldn't play it because I hate getting migraines.

Or it could be this kind of 3D
http://dsiware.nintendolife.com/news/2010/03/3d_motion_gaming_debuts_on_the_dsi

Besides, the 3D technology has advanced a lot, my parents used to complain about their heads hurting with 3D movies before, but they haven't had the same problem with recent 3D movies. Maybe it's just different from person to person though, I dunno.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Psycho Yuffie on March 23, 2010, 06:03:02 PM
Or it could be this kind of 3D
http://dsiware.nintendolife.com/news/2010/03/3d_motion_gaming_debuts_on_the_dsi

Besides, the 3D technology has advanced a lot, my parents used to complain about their heads hurting with 3D movies before, but they haven't had the same problem with recent 3D movies. Maybe it's just different from person to person though, I dunno.
I dunno. I saw Avatar with that new "True 3D" stuff. I felt fine at first, but then got a bad headache later that night.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: HyperSonicEXE on March 23, 2010, 06:19:50 PM
It could also be like the 3M 3D displays.

But then I don't see how the old DS games are going to be non-3D.

'Tis confusing.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Klavier Gavin on March 23, 2010, 06:31:40 PM
http://kotaku.com/5499823/nintendo-3ds-could-borrow-3d-trick-from-iphone

Here's a theory about the 3D [parasitic bomb].
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Acid on March 23, 2010, 06:34:36 PM
Same principle as any other recent Nintendo gimmick:

Amazing potential, but hardly anyone uses it right
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Flame on March 23, 2010, 06:47:41 PM
I was thinking this was an april fools joke. :\
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Gaia on March 23, 2010, 06:54:41 PM
Same principle as any other recent Nintendo gimmick:

Amazing potential, but hardly anyone uses it right

Like Wario Ware: DIY? I've seen crazy minigames spur out of that title. :\
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: HyperSonicEXE on March 23, 2010, 07:00:38 PM
http://kotaku.com/5499823/nintendo-3ds-could-borrow-3d-trick-from-iphone

Here's a theory about the 3D [parasitic bomb].

One of the Japanese business sources look to have confirmed the two-layer spiel.

Just found out.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Jericho on March 23, 2010, 07:02:21 PM
I don't think I need to say a damn thing about this and everyone on this site will know how I feel about it. XD

Gotta say though, portable 3D? That caught me off guard. I was totally expecting Nintendo to stay away from 3D until it got better integrated, much like they stayed away from HD with the Wii initially.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on March 23, 2010, 07:05:23 PM
Info from Nikei, you know, the Japanese business site that leaked early both versions of the DSi.

Quote
Nikkei

- control stick instead of dpad
- rumble
- improved wireless speed and battery life
- screen that is smaller than 4 inches
- timing on the announcement could be related to decreased software releases
- Nikkei expects release in second half of 2010

http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=118176

Posted on: March 23, 2010, 12:04:19 PM

Gotta say though, portable 3D? That caught me off guard. I was totally expecting Nintendo to stay away from 3D until it got better integrated, much like they stayed away from HD with the Wii initially.

Well, technically they already stayed away from it for 2 gens, remember the GCN was built with 3D capabilities.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Jericho on March 23, 2010, 07:06:42 PM
Jesus, Nintendo went in for the kill this time. I wonder what the ergonomics will be like for the system though.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Emiri Landeel on March 23, 2010, 07:16:48 PM
Fat chance for me to get the 3DS day one.
As I already sold my DS long long ago, I missed so many great titles on the DS.
3DS can do the backward compatibility, so it's gonna be great for me.
All I have to do is to track down those great DS games I missed and have fun on this new machine.

BTW Lightning, I'm wondering if you have a problem with this kind of 3D?

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e25/k9advance/what.gif)


Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Ike-Mike on March 23, 2010, 07:17:52 PM
Same principle as any other recent Nintendo gimmick:

Amazing potential, but hardly anyone uses it right
As well as that people can't see that there is more to the consoles than just the 'gimmicks'.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Acid on March 23, 2010, 07:22:21 PM
As well as that people can't see that there is more to the consoles than just the 'gimmicks'.
Absolutely.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Ike-Mike on March 23, 2010, 07:23:51 PM
Also

>Pokémon Gen 5 supposedly coming out in late 2010
>3DS also supposedly coming out in late 2010

Pokémon as a launch title? Whoa, that'd be a first!
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Emiri Landeel on March 23, 2010, 07:27:31 PM
^
^
Make sense.
This will push the 3DS way ahead of any forthcoming competitors.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Satoryu on March 23, 2010, 07:32:49 PM
Figures Nintendo announces this a week before I planned to pick up a DSiXL. Ah well, ain't stopping me. I need an upgrade now.

I am not a fan of 3D at all. It's been a icky gimmick for like 40 years now. Nintendo ain't going to change it. And yeah, the gimmick won't be fully realized. Hell, I'd be surprised if it was even used much at all in its first year. Wii Motion Plus all over again. But yeah, I think it would be hilarious if Ninty was purposely shoving this out to fool the competition into thinking they got the next big thing.

A control stick only may be a problem. 2D platformers aren't going to be so hot with just that. And by control stick, they most likely mean a nub like on the PSP. Which I am not a fan of.

I'm sure the mainstream titles will be cool and all, so long as the new Zelda isn't [tornado fang]ing touch screen only. It's just that what little I know isn't exciting me. We'll see if that changes in a few months.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: HyperSonicEXE on March 23, 2010, 07:36:25 PM
To add to Taiyo's post, quoting from you know where:

Nikkei

- control stick instead of dpad
- rumble
- improved wireless speed and battery life
- screen that is smaller than 4 inches
- timing on the announcement could be related to decreased software releases
- Nikkei expects release in second half of 2010

Yomiuri Shimbun

- "it is believed that the system will use a Sharp 3D LCD panel."
- this 3d tech is achieved by placing a small film on the screen, which is separated by a small space. The slight differences in the image creates the 3d effect

Mainichi Shimbun

- software developers have been briefed on the system
- third party software at launch
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Emiri Landeel on March 23, 2010, 07:40:32 PM
- control stick instead of dpad

Oh no.... I don't like this idea at all...
Not at all.

But hey, to be optimistic.
If it's the same style as NeoGeo Pocket.
WIN
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: HyperSonicEXE on March 23, 2010, 07:46:16 PM
Or like the Gamecube. Or even better locking mechanism so you get the 8 cardinals when you need them.

But I've got plenty of other options for my retro-gaming, so I don't really care.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Harruhy on March 23, 2010, 08:15:08 PM
Quote
BREAKING NEWS

I'm not even going to read this thread. It might just be related to April Fools.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Acid on March 23, 2010, 08:17:56 PM
Might as well be.

Gotta take it with dignity then.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Dexter Dexter on March 23, 2010, 08:20:30 PM
This doesn't sound too credible... it feels too early for the big N to be announcing a new handheld, especially after the DSi XL's release.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on March 23, 2010, 08:22:51 PM
The DS came out soon after the GBA Micro you know.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Dexter Dexter on March 23, 2010, 08:26:50 PM
True, but there's something that seems a bit out of place with this rumor.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Harruhy on March 23, 2010, 08:27:18 PM
The DS came out soon after the GBA Micro you know.

Quote from: Wikipedia
DS:  JP December 2, 2004
GBA Micro: JP  September 13, 2005

Then again, it's Wikipedia, durr hurr.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Jericho on March 23, 2010, 08:28:29 PM
True, but there's something that seems a bit out of place with this rumor.

But it's not a rumor... Where are people getting this from?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Acid on March 23, 2010, 08:29:45 PM
But it's not a rumor... Where are people getting this from?

April Fool's aura makes people death afraid of looking stupid on the internet.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Ike-Mike on March 23, 2010, 08:30:33 PM
This doesn't sound too credible... it feels too early for the big N to be announcing a new handheld, especially after the DSi XL's release.
We're still a year or so away from its release here though.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Jericho on March 23, 2010, 08:31:15 PM
April Fool's aura makes people death afraid of looking stupid on the internet.

Heh, well I guess I don't really care much for looking stupid or not. I'll enjoy myself one way or another. XD
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on March 23, 2010, 08:32:09 PM
But it's not a rumor... Where are people getting this from?

Yeah, after all, the direction clearly says
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/, I would understand if it was another site, but this is info from Nintendo itself.

Then again, it's Wikipedia, durr hurr.

Oh, right, still that only helps my case that it doesn't matter if a new revision just came out XD

April Fool's aura makes people death afraid of looking stupid on the internet.

True, but didn't we learn from Mario & Sonic at the Olympics already?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Dexter Dexter on March 23, 2010, 08:35:50 PM
Okay, rumor, not a rumor, whatever. But all the information I've seen so far regarding this topic is... it's just not coming together to me.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Harruhy on March 23, 2010, 08:37:19 PM
Oh, right, still that only helps my case that it doesn't matter if a new revision just came out XD

Indeed. I was just pointing it out.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Psycho Yuffie on March 23, 2010, 08:47:11 PM
Fat chance for me to get the 3DS day one.
As I already sold my DS long long ago, I missed so many great titles on the DS.
3DS can do the backward compatibility, so it's gonna be great for me.
All I have to do is to track down those great DS games I missed and have fun on this new machine.

BTW Lightning, I'm wondering if you have a problem with this kind of 3D?

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e25/k9advance/what.gif)
That's a very disorienting. I get dizzy looking at it. Is that 3D? Just looks like a two-frame animated gif to me.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Emiri Landeel on March 23, 2010, 08:49:47 PM
Seems like you have problem with that kind of (pseudo) 3D.

To be honest, I don't know how it works but all I know that it's one kind of 3D image.
For more example
[spoiler](http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/8362/1269330941293.gif)[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on March 23, 2010, 09:03:07 PM
I have that on my comp. lol

I'll stick with my normal DS though, thank you
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on March 23, 2010, 09:25:14 PM
3D? I...don't care. It's nice that it won't require glasses, but it still feels too gimmicky to me. Worse: it has motion sensing? This is looking like the one Nintendo handheld I won't be getting.
HOLY [parasitic bomb]! I... don't care in the least.
3D gaming? I mean, REALLY?
Ha, ha, ha... OH WOW.
This is supposed to be the successor to the DS/DSi, yes? If so, then it's not like it'll be a DS with some motion+3D gimmick. The machine will probably have improved capabilities overall.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Psycho Yuffie on March 23, 2010, 09:30:07 PM
Seems like you have problem with that kind of (pseudo) 3D.

To be honest, I don't know how it works but all I know that it's one kind of 3D image.
For more example
[spoiler](http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/8362/1269330941293.gif)[/spoiler]
Dear God! That one's even worse!
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Klavier Gavin on March 23, 2010, 09:48:45 PM
Nintendo confirms 3DS to be playable at E3

http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=118232
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Align on March 23, 2010, 09:52:29 PM
That's a very disorienting. I get dizzy looking at it. Is that 3D? Just looks like a two-frame animated gif to me.
It's an animated gif that gives the illusion of depth. Very strange that you're not seeing it, do you wear glasses, or are colorblind, or anything else eye-related?


This all looks interesting, but I'll wait for some examples first. It's about time for me to upgrade though, battery is failing on my old original DS...
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: HokutoNoBen on March 23, 2010, 10:18:18 PM
Fascinating. And I agree with Jeri, Nintendo pretty much went for the jugular, right here and now.

Makes sense though. While Sony and Microsoft are going for the motion-sensing pissing contest this coming E3, Nintendo will stand to generate the most hoopla by actually announcing a new successor for this generation of hardware. It helps that said successor is to the console that TRULY won this console war any way.  8D
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 24, 2010, 12:02:33 AM
New DS + 3D = PB SOLD!
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on March 24, 2010, 12:09:05 AM
The only thing that would make this even more guaranteed for a PB buy would be if it came with a Blues scarf.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Gotham Ranger on March 24, 2010, 12:15:34 AM
Eh, I'll wait to see what they do with it.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Akira on March 24, 2010, 12:17:30 AM
New DS + 3D = PB SOLD!

3D + PB = I want that too XD
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 24, 2010, 12:19:39 AM
Well, here's my thing.  When 3D works, I highly enjoy it.  Avatar, Alice & Wonderland, and Up all had fantastic 3D, whereas I remember Superman Returns having terrible 3D.  Since I don't get headaches or anything of the sort while looking at 3D, I have no problem with it, and thus I'm looking forward to the thing.  Plus, all the other features mentioned here sound nifty.  I'm looking forward to seeing the thing at E3, or on the internet before E3 as we know how impatient nerds are these days! 

If anything, I seriously applaud Ninty for announcing this before I bought myself a DSi XL.  Granted, I still might buy myself one possibly, but I like the fact that they didn't pull a classic Nintendick move and announce the 3DS a week or two after I bought it.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on March 24, 2010, 12:25:09 AM
But they did if you're Japanese, or European, specially European.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 24, 2010, 12:30:28 AM
But they did if you're Japanese, or European, specially European.

Thankfully I'm not!   8D
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: HokutoNoBen on March 24, 2010, 12:31:48 AM
But they did if you're Japanese, or European, specially European.

I can feel for our PAL brethren, as theirs is a hard lot as it is.  >w<

But if you're Japanese? Theirs is different, in light of how Ninty is prone to putting out multiple versions of the same SKU in a single quarter, much less the overall year. If you're a collect-a-holic that's gravy, but for most normal people, it's just a matter of picking and choosing, or if you just want to wait it out.

So in other words, this is pretty standard MO for their side of the pond. I'm expecting this, much like DSi before it, will probably launch some where in October/November.

HnB GET.  owob
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 24, 2010, 12:38:59 AM
Imagine if they announce a 3D Bowser game!  Or 3-Daisy, where Daisy must navigate through a 3-D world to collect the 3-Diamonds of Threedia!   :V
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on March 24, 2010, 12:57:30 AM
Make them both the same game, and I would break my Wii-release vow to never again stay up all night for new hardware. 8D

Considering how DSiXL people got screwed I guess I needn't feel too bad that I only bought my DSi a year ago.  Honestly, 3D to me is only a gimmick and not a system-seller, but we all know that it's only a matter of time before any Nintendo hardware gets a game that I want.  A handheld joystick does concern me a bit, but we'll see.  Nintendo has generally kicked Sony's ass in the stick department, so I'm hoping they can top the PSP nipple. *shudder*

BTW, would now be a good time to re-enter pleas for a handheld Virtual Console?  'cuz with a 3D machine coming, I'm thinking Mario Clash for the masses that were turned off by gaming in a View-Master.

And even though I'm sure it will NEVER happen, a new hardware announcement is always a nice time to dream of game-specific Nintendo friend codes being abolished...

Gotta say though, portable 3D? That caught me off guard. I was totally expecting Nintendo to stay away from 3D until it got better integrated, much like they stayed away from HD with the Wii initially.
I think "no glasses" is the key reason they'd even attempt it.  Nintendo, when adopting a new technology, has a tendency to look for the biggest obstacle and a way to tear it down.  With both HD and internet play, that was cost.  They didn't do internet play until they could make it free, and they won't do HD until they can make it cheap (that includes the development end, not just the consumer).  With 3D visuals, it's the glasses.  Nobody likes to have to wear those things for too long.  So getting a more user-friendly version into mainstream hands, sounds like a typical Nintendo move to me.  Whether or not it actually works remains to be seen.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: HokutoNoBen on March 24, 2010, 01:11:23 AM
Imagine if they announce a 3D Bowser game! 

If that were the case, it would be thing that I wouldn't even WAIT for the import to arrive at my damn house. I would PERSONALLY find a way to be in line, in Japan, to get my console and game! (HUGE LIE!)  XD

BTW, would now be a good time to re-enter pleas for a handheld Virtual Console?  'cuz with a 3D machine coming, I'm thinking Mario Clash for the masses that were turned off by gaming in a View-Master.

Now, the only thing here is that, even for the likes of Virtual Boy, it would require emulation of some sort. And why go through that much trouble, for like the 2-3 games that really qualify for such a thing?

If anything, I see this as a possible opportunity to remake and "re-envision" those games. Mario Clash, Wario Land VB and/or maybe even that canceled Mario Land game that never saw the light of day. And Atlus could compliment by bringing back Jack Bros!  8D

Otherwise, if we're truly talking like GCN tech in the palm of my hand, then yeah, the time is prime for a real VC for the upcoming Nintendo portable.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on March 24, 2010, 01:15:33 AM
If anything, I see this as a possible opportunity to remake and "re-envision" those games.
Works for me, I just assumed lazy development.  If it's colorized, higher-res, and includes some badass nostalgic remixes (preferably SMB3), so much the better.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: DjKlzonez on March 24, 2010, 01:22:15 AM
I was thinking this was an april fools joke. :\
It is, why they always ''leak'' a lot of stuff these days (before april starts) ?

I want to see the faces of each one of you when they ''confirm'' this console
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: HyperSonicEXE on March 24, 2010, 01:30:25 AM
Wonder if the 3DS has anything to do with the game Charles Martinet was working on?

'Cause I'd love to see a new portable 3D Mario.

Also, 3D Starfox would be a dream come true (provided it's GOOD).
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on March 24, 2010, 01:38:42 AM
ANY Star Fox that is actually good would be a dream come true. 
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 24, 2010, 01:40:26 AM
Wonder if the 3DS has anything to do with the game Charles Martinet was working on?

'Cause I'd love to see a new portable 3D Mario.

Hmmm, that's very possible.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: HokutoNoBen on March 24, 2010, 01:49:23 AM
It is, why they always ''leak'' a lot of stuff these days (before april starts) ?

I want to see the faces of each one of you when they ''confirm'' this console

It's real. This was a gradual thing leading up to when new Ninty hardware was confirmed, starting around GDC. If nothing else, this particular announcement was more of a thing to keep Ninty's stockholders happy (the Japanese fiscal year is over in a few days), with us just doing more to benefit from the "run-off". 8D

If this was a bunch of trolling, then there would be a whole hell of a lot to answer for. Nintendo's official name, and the name of some many credible JP publications, such as nikkei, are on the line, now. With that all said, you can rest assured this is real, even if we don't know much else in the way of specs just yet.

Wonder if the 3DS has anything to do with the game Charles Martinet was working on?

'Cause I'd love to see a new portable 3D Mario.

You wouldn't be the only one. And a new Ninty console needs a Mario platformer to launch with it. I'd like something original, as opposed to say, just a port/remake of Sunshine.

Of course, on the other hand, some other select parties have been relatively quiet as of late. IntelSys and even Square Enix have not really shown their hands. Maybe either of them could be a part of this particular mix...?



Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 24, 2010, 01:59:07 AM
Of course, on the other hand, some other select parties have been relatively quiet as of late. IntelSys and even Square Enix have not really shown their hands. Maybe either of them could be a part of this particular mix...?

3-D New Super Mario RPG, Ben?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on March 24, 2010, 02:04:19 AM
PB, you really need to stop filling our heads with ideas that are too damn awesome to be true. XD
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 24, 2010, 02:09:12 AM
PB, you really need to stop filling our heads with ideas that are too damn awesome to be true. XD

But that's my forte, HyShell.  To raise your hopes, your dreams, and your imagination with endless and awesome possibilities!   8D
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: HokutoNoBen on March 24, 2010, 02:25:21 AM
Quote
TOKYO (MarketWatch) -- Shares of Nintendo Co. /quotes/comstock/!7974 (JP:7974 27,970, +70.00, +0.25%) /quotes/comstock/11i!ntdof (NTDOF 316.50, +12.84, +4.23%) soared 10.1% in Tokyo trading Wednesday morning, after the company said late Tuesday that it will launch a DS handheld-game console that allows players to use three-dimensional games without wearing special glasses. The model will be relealsed sometime in the new business year, which begins in April. Shares of rival game-console maker Sony Corp. /quotes/comstock/13*!sne/quotes/nls/sne (SNE 40.44, +1.60, +4.12%) /quotes/comstock/!6758 (JP:6758 3,645, +125.00, +3.55%) slipped 0.8%, while the Nikkei 225 Stock Average was up 0.9%.

- http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=390930&page=74

See? Now even Nintendo's shares have gone up since this announcement! (Expected, since they're sheep minded, but whatever).

Dunno how much more proof you need than that this is very real.

3-D New Super Mario RPG, Ben?

Ya know, part of me could see that happening, if only because Square Enix knows it could use an easy way to get at the upcoming 3DS fan base, in a way that an original or remake FF game couldn't hope to do.

It wouldn't be a platformer, exactly, but it WOULD still be a Mario game launching with the platform. And for both Ninty and Squeenix, that could be all that matters.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 24, 2010, 02:37:13 AM
Ya know, part of me could see that happening, if only because Square Enix knows it could use an easy way to get at the upcoming 3DS fan base, in a way that an original or remake FF game couldn't hope to do.

It wouldn't be a platformer, exactly, but it WOULD still be a Mario game launching with the platform. And for both Ninty and Squeenix, that could be all that matters.

I can see it happening simply because it's what we in the biz refer to as "A Super Mariofuckin' System Seller!"   8D
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: HokutoNoBen on March 24, 2010, 02:51:31 AM
I can see it happening simply because it's what we in the biz refer to as "A Super Mariofuckin' System Seller!"   8D

Well, that too, of course.

On the other hand, as some one said on NeoGAF: "New Super Mario Bros 3DS" works on so many levels for it to NOT be in the oven. Of course, that would assume that they stick with "3DS"...  -u-'
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 24, 2010, 02:59:42 AM
Granted, it's a Nintendo handheld system, so it probably doesn't even need any help selling itself.  But I'm sure Ninty has something in mind.  Like someone said earlier in the thread, a 5th Gen 3-D Pokemon game would be pretty 3-Delicious.   8D

Ooooooh, 3-D Cyndaquil........  0v0

You know, if they can actually pull the 3-D without glasses thing off, I think it'd work a lot better than making a Wii Thrii-D system, since it's going to be a while before 3-D TV's infiltrate homes.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: DjKlzonez on March 24, 2010, 03:02:40 AM
But that's my forte, HyShell.  To raise your hopes, your dreams, and your imagination with endless and awesome possibilities!   8D
And Nintendo's forte is crushing them to pieces, giving you 10 mario party's in 3D >BD
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: HokutoNoBen on March 24, 2010, 03:17:36 AM
Granted, it's a Nintendo handheld system, so it probably doesn't even need any help selling itself.  But I'm sure Ninty has something in mind.  Like someone said earlier in the thread, a 5th Gen 3-D Pokemon game would be pretty 3-Delicious.   8D

Frankly, that's the LEAST of what I'm expecting. New Pokemon game, just in time to be marketed with a new machine to play it on. The fact that we now have this new console confirmed, plus the notion that it is CONFIRMED to be backwards compatible with the DS?

Nintendo would own Japan this Winter Holiday season with Pokemon alone, effectively. This is just like dropping several megaton bombs at once!

(http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo268/mappster102/iwatadroppenzienbomben.gif)



Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 24, 2010, 03:32:47 AM
Frankly, that's the LEAST of what I'm expecting. New Pokemon game, just in time to be marketed with a new machine to play it on. The fact that we now have this new console confirmed, plus the notion that it is CONFIRMED to be backwards compatible with the DS?

Nintendo would own Japan this Winter Holiday season with Pokemon alone, effectively. This is just like dropping several megaton bombs at once!

(http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo268/mappster102/iwatadroppenzienbomben.gif)

I believe the Jericho Missile in Iron Man would be more appropriate!  Get your Neo-GAFers to make that Gif!   8)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Emiri Landeel on March 24, 2010, 05:44:54 AM
(http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt105/Emiri_DC/Random/2im5kjn.gif)
It prints money 3D!!!

Coming soon this summer 8D
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: HyperSonicEXE on March 24, 2010, 07:33:24 AM
 XD

There are days I love the internet.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Ike-Mike on March 24, 2010, 05:39:47 PM
Of course, on the other hand, some other select parties have been relatively quiet as of late. IntelSys and even Square Enix have not really shown their hands. Maybe either of them could be a part of this particular mix...?
Oh goddammit.

I don't want to buy a new console already just to enjoy the newest Fire Emblem! Not yet, at least.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: DjKlzonez on March 26, 2010, 02:43:09 AM
My thoughts about this console:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3n0vBcW5fc[/youtube]
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Black Mage J on March 26, 2010, 02:55:10 AM
Hmmm, don't want.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: HyperSonicEXE on March 27, 2010, 06:16:53 PM
http://kotaku.com/5503312/nintendos-new-ds-will-still-force-you-to-re+buy-your-digital-games

I just sent NOA a fairly scathing e-mail.

Thankfully, they can remedy this by doing rights transfers by linking the 3DS shop to My Nintendo accounts.

Of course, now I'm EXTREMELY concerned about the Wii successor having VC transfers or even bloody online play.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on March 27, 2010, 07:46:35 PM
Ya know, part of me could see that happening, if only because Square Enix knows it could use an easy way to get at the upcoming 3DS fan base, in a way that an original or remake FF game couldn't hope to do.

It wouldn't be a platformer, exactly, but it WOULD still be a Mario game launching with the platform. And for both Ninty and Squeenix, that could be all that matters.

I for one would enjoy a 3D version of Paper Mario. The doubly ironic 2D paper in a 3D 3D game would be hilarious.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on March 28, 2010, 04:47:39 PM
http://kotaku.com/5503312/nintendos-new-ds-will-still-force-you-to-re+buy-your-digital-games

I just sent NOA a fairly scathing e-mail.

Thankfully, they can remedy this by doing rights transfers by linking the 3DS shop to My Nintendo accounts.

Of course, now I'm EXTREMELY concerned about the Wii successor having VC transfers or even bloody online play.
That article doesn't discuss the 3DS, it's referring to DSi-to-DSiXL.  Now, honestly, besides your EXTREMELY hardcore collectors, nobody should be buying both a DSi and a DSiXL.  They're the exact same thing in different sizes.

Nevertheless, Nintendo's iron-grip policies aren't always pleasant.  It does suck that should you for any reason need a system replacement (say, broken screen), you're completely F*@#!ed in the DLC department without sending your system into Nintendo's workshop or whatever.  This is why I hated the whole "selling license, not selling the game" crap since the first moment I saw it in the terms of service.  Hopefully, though, they will have enough common sense to allow some manner of transfer to a true successor (the rep did say they were looking into it, so they are aware).  They've got a little under a year to figure something out for 3DS.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: HyperSonicEXE on March 28, 2010, 09:59:27 PM
Wow, they set up the rights that way? Didn't think the XL would be able to tell your stuff apart if you linked to your My Nintendo account.

And if these can't even transfer to the XL, that still begs the question, will these titles even be able to transfer to the 3DS?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on March 28, 2010, 10:21:27 PM
The reason you can't transfer to the XL is that the pixels are bigger and require more licensing costs. Nintendo is nice though. The exchange rate for DS XL Shop Points is calculated so they cost the same in real monies, but an ovrsite prevents a free transfer.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on March 31, 2010, 04:08:41 AM
The reason you can't transfer to the XL is that the pixels are bigger and require more licensing costs.
...what?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Satoryu on March 31, 2010, 04:14:39 AM
I was going to say something about that too, but that might've been sarcasm.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Black Mage J on March 31, 2010, 04:28:24 AM
People, shut up and listen, here I have leaked footage of the new 3DS, it comes in a brand new color, one all you youngins are crazy about
Cardboard brown. and to stop the environmentalists from stalking nintendo executives front yards, part of it is made out of cardboard! This will surely be the greatest leap in hand held gaming for the decade!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkgMUk_5p2A&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
And this baby also uses 0, that's right, 0 electricity!
And once more, its 20 bucks.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Superjustinbros on April 01, 2010, 07:53:21 PM
Well, I'll be looking forward to this.  8)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: ViperAcidZX on April 01, 2010, 10:34:40 PM
This is something I'll have to keep my eye on..
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: borockman on April 02, 2010, 12:12:31 AM
lol that's 3D alright. XD
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on April 06, 2010, 08:24:55 PM
HAY GAIZ, IT'S THE 3DS (http://kotaku.com/5510693/is-this-the-best-nintendo-3ds-mockup-weve-seen-or-the-real-thing/gallery/)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on April 07, 2010, 12:10:09 AM
Late April Fools (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://hamstern.air-nifty.com/mogumogu/2010/04/post-3c64.html&ei=9lq7S_HwJZH49ATyuZj1Bw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBIQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://hamstern.air-nifty.com/mogumogu/2010/04/post-3c64.html%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff).  Nice render, but jaggy edges (most obvious when the screen is dark) give it away, as does the general ergonomic nightmare of the L/R buttons.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Klavier Gavin on April 13, 2010, 04:56:10 PM
Famitsu pic

(http://i42.tinypic.com/1inxxf.jpg)


3DS talk in next issue.

Posted on: April 06, 2010, 10:47:23 PM
http://kotaku.com/5515794/nintendo-says-3ds-is-our-next-handheld-platform

hurf.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Emiri Landeel on April 13, 2010, 05:16:28 PM
I'm not happy with the lacks F-Zero on DS. Even GBA had it's fair share of F-Zero.
3DS must have a new F-Zero or I'll PAWNCH Miyamoto to death. o//////o
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on April 14, 2010, 09:03:52 AM
I'll help!
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: HyperSonicEXE on April 15, 2010, 04:01:53 AM
Tch, with an accelerometer, I highly expect that some of the first games out of the barn will be racing games where the system is the steering wheel.

Anyway, I've figured out my situation.

The DSi probably won't transfer games to the 3DS.
The 3DS is backwards compatible with the DSPhat-DSiXL library.
That means that the 3DS will probably even communicate with the other DS' in that BC mode.
I have many games that can play even with a single cart, but concerned that other people may not have a DS to play.
SOLUTION: Keep the DSi. I can keep my downloaded titles, and I have an older DS for those other games.

Sorry Gamestop, but unless the 3DS doesn't talk to the other DS', you ain' gettin' mah DSi! :P
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on April 15, 2010, 06:30:04 AM
My DS is broken for good... think they'll still take it? It's in one piece still...
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: HyperSonicEXE on April 15, 2010, 06:57:09 AM
My DS is broken for good... think they'll still take it? It's in one piece still...

Yeah, for a reduced price.

They actually send the ones they get in. A lot of other stores, like my local Game XChange, just throw borked ones away.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on April 15, 2010, 10:40:13 AM
Well it's still semi-usable... have to hold the power button all the way up the entire time... hmm...
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: HyperSonicEXE on April 16, 2010, 12:39:13 AM
Well it's still semi-usable... have to hold the power button all the way up the entire time... hmm...

Aw, it's just a snapped piece of plastic. Probably. Could be a loose/looser switch.

Shame; such an easy fix, just gotta open it up, really.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on April 16, 2010, 12:41:44 AM
I did that. Couldn't find any problems...
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on April 16, 2010, 05:09:15 PM
Tch, with an accelerometer, I highly expect that some of the first games out of the barn will be racing games where the system is the steering wheel.
That means that the 3DS will probably even communicate with the other DS' in that BC mode.

The communication method for DS is wifi. I'd hate to see them screw up that.

I'd like to see a game where you hold up the 3DS and as you move it around, the camera pans. Even better if it uses the camera to use the surrounding for reference.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Jericho on April 20, 2010, 09:37:36 PM
Hey guys, what has 2 screens, does 3D effects without glasses, and debuts in [chameleon sting]ing October? 8D (http://www.edge-online.com/news/3ds-to-launch-in-october-report)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: The Blind Archer on April 20, 2010, 10:54:48 PM
Hey guys, what has 2 screens, does 3D effects without glasses, and debuts in [chameleon sting]ing October? 8D (http://www.edge-online.com/news/3ds-to-launch-in-october-report)

Quote
and debuts in [chameleon sting]ing October

Quote
October

(http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/8572/1265262128088.png)

Probably won't pick one up then anyways, but still... wow.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Dexter Dexter on April 20, 2010, 11:01:04 PM
*faints*
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on April 20, 2010, 11:38:28 PM
Hey guys, what has 2 screens, does 3D effects without glasses, and debuts in [chameleon sting]ing October? 8D (http://www.edge-online.com/news/3ds-to-launch-in-october-report)

Wow, this almost invokes my MMXC-dar.
Seriously. The options are:
They really plan on doing the things they are implying and are rushing it...
They aren't rushing it and it's another DSi...
Full on MMXC, where the whole thing is a sham...

Didn't they say they were waiting for the DS to stop selling well to make a new DS?
And so soon after DSi. Those people got screwed.

I'm still hoping for a good Portable Zelda. That pretty much decides it ultimately.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Jericho on April 20, 2010, 11:48:44 PM
Then there's option four where all the mystery R&D Nintendo's been doing has been for this. They aren't going to make something like this, release it when they plan to, and expect the best without putting some confidence in their moves. No need to be so cynical or overly positive. Just wait & see.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on April 21, 2010, 05:54:01 PM
I just hope developers don't keep developing for DS and deeming developing with the new features in mind too much of a cost risk. I wanna see new games with new features, but it's hard to tell if the 3DS is a new handheld or just another upgrade.

PS: Please put the GBA slot back in.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on April 21, 2010, 05:59:33 PM
PS: Please put the GBA slot back in.

O^O Yes please~
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on April 22, 2010, 03:11:01 AM
Most definitely! ^_^
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Dexter Dexter on April 22, 2010, 03:22:35 AM
The GBA slot is old now. I WANT MY VIRTUAL HANDHELD
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on April 22, 2010, 03:55:59 AM
Much as I'd LIKE to see the GBA slot, if this thing is truly a DS successor then that makes the GBA slot 2-generation-old hardware.  If Big N was willing to do that then the DS would have been playing GBC carts (not that I'd argue, just saying).

Wow.  October.  MUCH earlier than I was expecting.  That probably refers to Japanese release, but we'll see.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: HyperSonicEXE on April 22, 2010, 07:18:48 AM
The GBA slot is old now. I WANT MY VIRTUAL HANDHELD

This.

Let's see a GB/A Virtual Console, already.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on April 22, 2010, 07:20:23 AM
Definitely. VC on DSi! Or Wii! Or both!
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Black Mage J on April 22, 2010, 07:55:56 AM
I wonder why they never released some old GB games with the DSi, just add some color to it and maybe a choice on whether you want those side borders or not. Hopefully they will get this for the 3DS.
But seriously, cardboard, good idea.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Jericho on May 08, 2010, 05:29:40 PM
Interesting notes on 3DS came up today. The most interesting being that the 3D screens can toggle the 3D effect for those who might not be able to view 3D images for a long time and the DRM/piracy measures on the system are going to supposedly be Nintendo's fiercest yet.

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Nintendo 3DS to have tighter DRM, switch-off 3D screens

updated 05:55 pm EDT, Fri May 7, 2010

Nintendo 3DS games will be harder to copy

Nintendo president Satoru Iwata said in an interview today that the 3DS will have tougher anti-copying measures than the existing DSi. The executive wouldn't say what it would involve, saying it would give "hints" to pirates, but told Forbes it was important to step up copy protection measures. Nintendo is concerned about a culture of free where "software is meaningless," Iwata said.

He added that the 3DS will still be usable by those who don't like or can't use 3D. The signature displays, likely made by Sharp, won't have to generate their effect at all times and can be switched back to 2D. His statements suggest that many if not all 3DS games will have a fallback to conventional graphics.

The 3DS may have the latest NVIDIA Tegra graphics, higher-resolution displays and even extras like analog sticks or vibration feedback.

Article Link (http://www.electronista.com/articles/10/05/07/nintendo.3ds.games.will.be.harder.to.copy/)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on May 08, 2010, 06:45:35 PM
Rumble. Say goodbye to your battery.

I hope Sony responds to this competively.

It'd be nice if the inner camera could detect your eye location and distance for POV reference.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on May 08, 2010, 07:18:40 PM
Nah, they'll just release a new PSP with even fewer features.

Still, interesting to see...
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on May 08, 2010, 07:42:26 PM
Nah, they'll just release a new PSP with even fewer features.

Still, interesting to see...

PSP 2
changelog:
3.0
* Reset price to 300USD
- Reduce screen size
+ Added VGA camera

2.2 ~ 2.9
- Removed exploits

2.1
- Removed exploits

2.0
* Reset price to 300USD
- Removed Pandora exploit
 - Reduced screen size
+ Added mic
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Align on May 08, 2010, 08:01:15 PM
I really don't care for rumble, useless gimmick if ever there was one. Except for placing the controller in your lap or something.

Don't think making piracy even harder is going to have much of an effect... numbers suggest you only lose like 1% of sales from it.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on May 08, 2010, 09:29:39 PM
lol nice, xnamkcor.

And that is true, Justify.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on May 09, 2010, 12:21:04 AM
It'd be nice if the inner camera could detect your eye location and distance for POV reference.
Am I the only one thinking that jerking your head = offline game lag?

Not sure if you were talking about the 3DS or potential PSP2 (Sony did say that their 3D focus is on consoles and not handhelds, though).  I'm sure the 3DS will just use the screen-shifting doohicky to work with a particular angle.  Contrary to Nintendo's DSiXL marketing, handhelds don't really need a wide viewing angle (or at least not backlit ones; I'm sure we have pre-GBASP memories).
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bag of Magic Food on May 10, 2010, 02:06:02 AM
But don't you want other people to be able to watch you play over your shoulder?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Dexter Dexter on May 10, 2010, 02:09:05 AM
But don't you want other people to be able to watch you play over your shoulder?
And tell me, sir, what benefit that would be of the owner of the DSi XL? [/gentleman]

Also: Now if the 3DS were to be made in the same style of the DS line, I'd want a second external mic and a video recording feature to go with it. [parasitic bomb] would be ABSOLUTELY cash.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bag of Magic Food on May 10, 2010, 02:23:54 AM
Then you could send recordings of yourself saying "Help me OB1-Can-OB"?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Dexter Dexter on May 12, 2010, 07:00:48 PM
Apparently, the 3DS is not the name. (http://ds.nintendolife.com/news/2010/05/dont_get_too_attached_to_3ds_name_says_iwata) Just thought I would post this since it has SOME relevance.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Acid on May 12, 2010, 07:02:59 PM
It will be the Nintendo... Sii
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 12, 2010, 07:06:02 PM
Or the Nintendo Dii
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on May 12, 2010, 07:58:17 PM
Nintendo and Canon team up to make a handheld that prints [spoiler]money[/spoiler].
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on May 12, 2010, 10:38:50 PM
Nintendo BS.

I don't know, it's something I saw in a pic someone linked me.

Fix your tag!
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on May 14, 2010, 09:41:26 PM
Then you could send recordings of yourself saying "Help me OB1-Can-OB"?
The nerd in me just squealed for joy.

Imagine when it gets hacked.  3D Moonshell.

But don't you want other people to be able to watch you play over your shoulder?
I've said it before and I'll say it again: If there is one thing Nintendo needs to steal from Sony, it's handhelds with video outputs.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Klavier Gavin on June 05, 2010, 04:36:47 AM
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IGN says off the record devs say 3DS features abilities 'close to 360/PS3', does not feature Tegra chip

"Several developers that have experienced 3DS in its current form have reported, off the record, that it has processing capabilities that far exceed the Nintendo Wii and bring the device with abilities that are close to HD consoles such as PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360. According to several developer sources, the 3DS device is not using the NVIDIA Tegra mobile chipset, a rumor that's been floating around since 2009." - IGN

http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=125964
http://ds.ign.com/articles/109/1094930p1.html
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on June 05, 2010, 04:38:42 AM
http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=125964
http://ds.ign.com/articles/109/1094930p1.html
I'm sure they're probably not talking graphics-wise, but color me interested. I'm curious to see what this will lead to.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Dexter Dexter on June 05, 2010, 04:47:23 AM
http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=125964
http://ds.ign.com/articles/109/1094930p1.html
Me like. This probably means that the browser will be better than that of the DSi and that I can watch YouTube vids.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on June 05, 2010, 04:50:29 AM
Me like. This probably means that the browser will be better than that of the DSi and that I can watch YouTube vids.
Why would you use it to watch YouTube videos? Just get a Blackberry or iPad or something.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Dexter Dexter on June 05, 2010, 04:51:48 AM
The Wii had that capability, why not Ninty's handhelds? And screw the iPad.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on June 05, 2010, 04:57:05 AM
The Wii had that capability, why not Ninty's handhelds?
That's not what I meant...
I mean, you would like to get this thing for its games too, right? I hope that when you do get it, you won't be using it just to browse Youtube.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Dexter Dexter on June 05, 2010, 05:00:18 AM
Actually, I didn't.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on June 05, 2010, 05:03:04 AM
That's not what I meant...
I mean, you would like to get this thing for its games too, right? I hope that when you do get it, you won't be using it just to browse Youtube.
I will. 8D
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on June 05, 2010, 05:11:06 AM
Actually, I didn't.
Could you rephrase that, perhaps, because "I didn't" doesn't make sense when used as a response to a "You would...?" question?

I will. 8D
(http://www.b2bcoaching.co.uk/thumbs%20up%20low%20res.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on June 05, 2010, 05:12:59 AM
Why would you use it to watch YouTube videos?

Because it'd be convenient?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Dexter Dexter on June 05, 2010, 05:13:26 AM
Could you rephrase that, perhaps, because "I didn't" doesn't make sense when used as a response to a "You would...?" question?
'Scuse me, I meant wouldn't. -AC
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on June 05, 2010, 05:14:05 AM
(http://www.b2bcoaching.co.uk/thumbs%20up%20low%20res.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v502/Ashurahori/a4d12db1.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on June 05, 2010, 06:10:58 AM
http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=125964
http://ds.ign.com/articles/109/1094930p1.html
They probably mean "close to the 360/PS3" in the same way that the PSP is supposed to be "close to" the PS2.  In other words, the gap is noticeable, but the smaller screen size lets the system get away with more.

Then again, the valid point has been made that 3D imaging will require rendering both screens twice over.  I doubt the system will push polygons harder than the Wii, but one never knows.  Either way, it'll leave the system a lot more capable for whatever multimedia stuff they want to throw in down the line, and God willing, emulation.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Kieran on June 05, 2010, 07:10:29 AM
So, I can only presume at this point that using the damn thing is going to be like staring at a Magic Eye picture for hours.

We're going to wind up with people going permanently cross-eyed after this is all over.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Jericho on June 05, 2010, 07:24:57 AM
So, I can only presume at this point that using the damn thing is going to be like staring at a Magic Eye picture for hours.

We're going to wind up with people going permanently cross-eyed after this is all over.

Not at all, the screen technology being hinted at would be far from doing something as simple and potentially crippling as that. Or at least that's what I've come to expect from folks in the know.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on June 05, 2010, 05:56:04 PM
Jericho's correct.  Magic Eye is still a single image, merely drawn in such a way that screwing with the focus of your own eyes matches up the 3D image.  You can do the same thing with chain link fences and plaid patterns.

While not officially confirmed, it is alleged that the 3DS will be using Sharp's parallax barriers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallax_barrier) to generate the 3D effect.  The barrier can be switched on and off to allow regular 2D displays (a must for backwards compatibility).  Basically, it works by directing each eye to a different set of pixels within the same screen, but it depends on the viewer being at a particular angle, thus flying in the face of the "let people watch over your shoulder" thing that Nintendo was touting with the DSiXL.  This is also why the technology is not valid for televisions.

Nintendo's already stated (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3179192) that the user will be able to turn the 3D effect off.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on June 05, 2010, 07:04:03 PM
So, I can only presume at this point that using the damn thing is going to be like staring at a Magic Eye picture for hours.

We're going to wind up with people going permanently cross-eyed after this is all over.

If looking at Magic Eye pictures makes you coss-eyed, you're doing it wrong.

PS: once again, I must insist on a 3D Paper Mario.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Klavier Gavin on June 05, 2010, 08:25:46 PM
Here, have some more rumors;

- once again, no TEGRA chip
- Japanese partner for the 3D acceleration hardware
- codename is "Nintendo CTR"
- this matches up with the FFC board picture from a few weeks back
- FCC board images may have been made public before they should have been


http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/nvidia-unconnected-with-3ds-blog-entry
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on June 05, 2010, 09:07:33 PM
I wonder by what logic Eurogamer believes that only the top screen will be 3D?  I mean, what about a 4:3 aspect ratio rules it out?  Just because Sharp is pitching the 16x9 ratio doesn't mean it's the only one to exist; one naturally expects the widescreen ratio to be dominant in a single-screen device these days.

One might think that the touch screen running 3D illusions could be a conflict of interest, but that'd be easily solved by having the two parallax borders switch on/off independently (as the DS is perfectly capable of with its backlights, though no commercial developer to my knowledge has done so).  I mean, for your oh-so-typical action games with 2nd screen map, having 3D on the bottom could be spiffy.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on June 05, 2010, 10:46:20 PM
I wonder by what logic Eurogamer believes that only the top screen will be 3D?  I mean, what about a 4:3 aspect ratio rules it out.  Just because Sharp is pitching the 16x9 ratio doesn't mean it's the only one to exist; one naturally expects the widescreen ratio to be dominant in a single-screen device these days.

One might think that the touch screen running 3D illusions could be a conflict of interest, but that'd be easily solved by having the two parallax borders switch on/off independently (as the DS is perfectly capable of with its backlights, though no commercial developer to my knowledge has done so).  I mean, for your oh-so-typical action games with 2nd screen map, having 3D on the bottom could be spiffy.

Having a 3D element to maps would be nice. It'd give them a way to relay more information about the room with just colors.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Dexter Dexter on June 05, 2010, 11:09:56 PM
parallax barriers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallax_barrier)
This is some fascinating technology, but...
PARALLAX BARRIER? IN MY 3DS?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on June 05, 2010, 11:14:35 PM
So, PB would mean a sort of vertically interlaced image?

How would your eyes not notice only half the pixel columns are there?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on June 06, 2010, 12:32:38 AM
There are probably several reasons.  Some points off the top of my head include: barrier is obscured by backlight, you're not focusing directly on the barrier, all pixels are visible by either one eye or the other, and if necessary the screens could be using an especially tight dot pitch.

There's plenty of minor details in the world, and especially in electronic displays, that the naked eye doesn't notice.  Such as traditional interlaced displays using a 60FPS source; sure progressive scan might look clearer, but you don't consciously notice that the individual fields don't match.

I do recall some whispers that these 3D displays appear brighter while the barrier is off, but that's about it.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on June 06, 2010, 02:22:54 AM
This is some fascinating technology, but...
PARALLAX BARRIER? IN MY 3DS?
Just show yourself a picture that reminds you of your mom, and you'll break through.

(murders self for DC reference)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on June 06, 2010, 09:10:44 AM
You removed the Geordi LaForge reference... now I'm sad. :'(
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Klavier Gavin on June 17, 2010, 11:56:25 AM
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Hate carrying around multiple DS carts with you when you travel? It sounds like the 3DS will clear up that issue for you.

According to the Japanese publication Nikkei, the 3DS will allow you to store games on the hardware itself. You pop a game in, you copy it over to the DS, and you're set to go! It all seems very cool, and not an approach that Nintendo would traditionally take!

Quote from GoNintendo (http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=127212)

Original source from here (http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/06/17/3ds_software_install/)

Let this be true...

...But I doubt it.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on June 17, 2010, 01:47:16 PM
Quote from GoNintendo (http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=127212)

Original source from here (http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/06/17/3ds_software_install/)

Let this be true...

...But I doubt it.
Woo! No R4 required!

Hope there aren't firmware updates. =P
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on June 17, 2010, 04:51:23 PM
Woo! No R4 required!

Hope there aren't firmware updates. =P
How do you plan on getting the game data onto the onboard memory?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Dexter Dexter on June 17, 2010, 05:16:38 PM
Quote from GoNintendo (http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=127212)

Original source from here (http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/06/17/3ds_software_install/)

Let this be true...

...But I doubt it.
Wait... so you insert the cart, the software is installed, and then the cart itself is not required to play the game on it (provided that the first two steps are followed)? This hardly sounds feasible. :\
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on June 17, 2010, 05:46:42 PM
Sounds doable. The only problem I see is, how much internal memory is there? At 2Gb each, three games would fit on a 8Gb card.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on June 17, 2010, 08:15:50 PM
How do you plan on getting the game data onto the onboard memory?
D'OH!  X(
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Align on June 17, 2010, 09:47:02 PM
Sounds doable. The only problem I see is, how much internal memory is there? At 2Gb each, three games would fit on a 8Gb card.
You can store a lot more than 8GB on something the size of a DS, so where was that number from?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on June 17, 2010, 10:58:31 PM
You can store a lot more than 8GB on something the size of a DS, so where was that number from?

8Gb cards are currently the highest moderately prices cards on the market. Also, the PSPGo has 8Gb internal.

On something the size of a DS? I think you are refering to hard drives. Really? Really!?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Align on June 17, 2010, 11:03:17 PM
I was thinking more of iPods, but maybe I've been confusing numbers there.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on June 18, 2010, 03:23:23 AM
Given Nintendo's track record, even 2GB (I recall seeing that speculated somewhere) would be a massive leap.

Honestly, the whole concept doesn't sound too likely.  It sounds like somebody who knows nothing about gaming got their carts and their DLC mixed up.

BTW, Nintendo's specs for 3DS (http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/06/16/3ds_specs/) confirms the screen resolution going up.  We're now at 320x240 for the touch screen and 400x240 (per eye) for the widescreen, this being up from the current DS's 256x192.  240 = half the height of SDTV = Resolution of PS1 MegaMan games (I know, pipe dream, but still).

So, PB would mean a sort of vertically interlaced image?

How would your eyes not notice only half the pixel columns are there?
With Nintendo's recently released specs (http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/06/16/3ds_specs/) we now know that the answer is some horizontal dot pitch trickery.  The system is designed, and screens appropriately sized, to render a 400x240 image, but since a different set of pixels is sent to each eye, the actual screen resolution is 800x240.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on June 21, 2010, 12:49:22 PM
Here are more 3DS Hands On Videos, where you can (try and) see the 3D in action. >U< (http://www.stageselect.com/N5010-nintendo-3ds-hands-on-video.aspx)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sky on June 21, 2010, 01:05:38 PM
i want to really like this, but the fact that 3D cinema gives me a massive headache makes me a skeptic.

however, my brother wants this really bad. i get to keep his old fatty classic DS. B)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on June 21, 2010, 03:58:15 PM
i want to really like this, but the fact that 3D cinema gives me a massive headache makes me a skeptic.

however, my brother wants this really bad. i get to keep his old fatty classic DS. B)
I hate 3D cinema as well, and can never watch it right without my eyes starting to hurt, but aparently, this uses a much simpler effect. And don't forget that the 3D can be turned off at anytime. So I guess pretty much every game can be played without 3D.

And for everyone thinking the 3DS will be a powerhouse, I got kinda worried when I read this: http://kotaku.com/5568573/nintendo-3ds-vs-psp-vs-iphone

Quote
The Nintendo 3DS is a big step up power-wise from the Nintendo DS. The stickler is that, as HCW points out, the Nintendo 3DS apparently has to work harder than the Nintendo Wii!

The reason that the Nintendo 3DS has to work so hard is that it has to do two times the effort to reproduce the 3D effect in the machine's top screen. According to HCW, that could mean there won't be super detailed 3D graphics. (Perhaps below PSP or iPhone 3GS level.) The draw for the Nintendo 3DS is ultimately the 3D and what kind of experiences Nintendo can offer. And for current Nintendo DS owners, the graphics will look eye popping. Literally.

I'm a bit dissapointed, specially because these graphics seemed really damn good in the presentation.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on June 21, 2010, 04:58:28 PM
The graphics looked good to you, but now you are disapointed because someone said(implied) they weren't good? If you like the graphics, that seems enough. How can the graphics be below the PSP? Are they not, at all, considering the 3D being part of the graphics?
Imagine the PSP doing this. It would probably halve or reduce by a quarter the polycount and the resolution would be about 240x272. Even more sacrifice to the polycount if it was 960x272.

I'd like to see a company make a game that is meant to be played at 800x240 with no 3D, or maybe a game that uses a form of interlacing that would result in 800 wide 3D image instead of redundant columns that result in 400 wide.

PS: If it is backwards compatible with NDS games, why is the bottom screen 320x240 wheb the NDS screens were 256x192?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on June 21, 2010, 05:19:42 PM
The graphics looked good to you, but now you are disapointed because someone said(implied) they weren't good? If you like the graphics, that seems enough. How can the graphics be below the PSP? Are they not, at all, considering the 3D being part of the graphics?
Imagine the PSP doing this. It would probably halve or reduce by a quarter the polycount and the resolution would be about 240x272. Even more sacrifice to the polycount if it was 960x272.

I'd like to see a company make a game that is meant to be played at 800x240 with no 3D, or maybe a game that uses a form of interlacing that would result in 800 wide 3D image instead of redundant columns that result in 400 wide.

PS: If it is backwards compatible with NDS games, why is the bottom screen 320x240 wheb the NDS screens were 256x192?
I love it when people read what I say. Unfortunately, this isn't one of those times. Although the graphics looked really good in the small demo presentation the 3DS girls were showing around, they didn't move alot, and we just saw some small scenes being shown and 3D models turned around. I expected the games to actually go that far. The stuff we saw of Kid Icarus, while impressive, didn't go to Gamecube levels. This article is a look at the actual hardware, and it says that as the console will make a bigger effort to display the 3D, the graphics won't be as good in ACTUAL games. Nothing's certain as of now, and I wanna keep believing that I'm gonna be able to play Mario Sunshine on my 3DS, but for now, it does look good. It looks really good. What I'm dissapointed about, is the graphics shown in those latest videos Vixy linked us to, which are probably unrealistic compared to the actual things the console can do. Still, we can wait for results instead of wondering about it.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on June 21, 2010, 07:11:11 PM
I'm sorry you thought the ingame graphics were going to match a single character model spinning?

"graphics seemed really damn good in the presentation."

Next time specify you are refering to a single character model spinning and comnparing it to ingame. I was not aware the "presentation" you saw was such.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on June 21, 2010, 07:23:33 PM
I'm sorry you thought the ingame graphics were going to match a single character model spinning?

"graphics seemed really damn good in the presentation."

Next time specify you are refering to a single character model spinning and comnparing it to ingame. I was not aware the "presentation" you saw was such.
And why the [tornado fang] would I want to do that? I said the graphics looked good in "the presentation", without specifying any demos or trailers. I was pointing out my concern because this recent article pointed out that the hardware won't push the graphics as hard as I originally thought. No, I didn't think the graphics would match a 3D model spinning, but Nintendo isn't one to "bullshot" people. They're not Square-Enix. Once they release screenshots, a game usually looks like that and the system runs it as such. So, yes, I expected the games to look good. And if stuff like Kid Icarus wowed me, it still wasn't the "Gamecube-level graphics" everyone is hyping.
I was voicing a concern I had for the hardware. If you didn't understand what I was talking about, I don't know how the [tornado fang] it is any of my problem.
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Post by: Turian on June 21, 2010, 07:33:38 PM
And why the [tornado fang] would I want to do that? I said the graphics looked good in "the presentation", without specifying any demos or trailers. I was pointing out my concern because this recent article pointed out that the hardware won't push the graphics as hard as I originally thought. No, I didn't think the graphics would match a 3D model spinning, but Nintendo isn't one to "bullshot" people. They're not Square-Enix. Once they release screenshots, a game usually looks like that and the system runs it as such. So, yes, I expected the games to look good. And if stuff like Kid Icarus wowed me, it still wasn't the "Gamecube-level graphics" everyone is hyping.
I was voicing a concern I had for the hardware. If you didn't understand what I was talking about, I don't know how the [tornado fang] it is any of my problem.
Hey Flash... 1up disagrees. Also the comments on Kotaku disagree with the article that you linked, so there may be hope yet!

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3180008
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Post by: Bueno Excelente on June 21, 2010, 07:49:21 PM
Hey Flash... 1up disagrees. Also the comments on Kotaku disagree with the article that you linked, so there may be hope yet!

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3180008
YES. Thank you. Providing material and contributing in a civilized way.
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Post by: xnamkcor on June 21, 2010, 08:23:25 PM
I agree with Past Flash and think the graphics are good.
Present Flash is synical, but that will pass. These aren't even finished and even then, they are the release titles. Compare Dawn of Sorrow to Order of the Ecclair.

With enough time, we might see a sequel to Spirit Tracks that rivals or exceeds WW.

I want to see them pull off a stereovisual 2D game where a whole sets of sprites are made for each eye's POV.

PS: Future Flash is(will be) enjoying his copy of MMZX3. In which, Model Z is playable and the levels have multiple layers of 2D along the Z-Axis. Or is it the X-Axis in 3D Geometry?
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Post by: Bueno Excelente on June 21, 2010, 08:47:18 PM
I agree with Past Flash and think the graphics are good.
Present Flash is synical, but that will pass. These aren't even finished and even then, they are the release titles. Compare Dawn of Sorrow to Order of the Ecclair.

With enough time, we might see a sequel to Spirit Tracks that rivals or exceeds WW.

I want to see them pull off a stereovisual 2D game where a whole sets of sprites are made for each eye's POV.

PS: Future Flash is(will be) enjoying his copy of MMZX3. In which, Model Z is playable and the levels have multiple layers of 2D along the Z-Axis. Or is it the X-Axis in 3D Geometry?
I also think the graphics are good. I just want to know what kind of graphics we'll have in the first place.

...and I would be enjoying it if I liked the games. 8D
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Post by: xnamkcor on June 21, 2010, 09:52:28 PM
Polygons: PSX-PS2
Textures: N64-GCN
Stereovision
Controller: SNES w/ a stick
Sound: PSX
Fun = Yes

I'm still mystified by the inclusion of the placeholder screen 2 on 3DS screenshots. I hope developers use that second screen.
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Post by: Turian on June 21, 2010, 10:33:20 PM
I also think the graphics are good. I just want to know what kind of graphics we'll have in the first place.

...and I would be enjoying it if I liked the games. 8D

Real quick, why don't you like ZX? Don't wanna get into to it too much, i'm just curious.
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Post by: Bueno Excelente on June 21, 2010, 10:53:43 PM
Real quick, why don't you like ZX? Don't wanna get into to it too much, i'm just curious.
...mostly the gameplay. I guess it's pretty standard fare in Megaman games, but while the simplistic "can't duck or shoot up" gameplay was fun back in the old 8-bit titles and heck, even excuseable in the X titles, it made me just quit the game and sell it right away on this one. The Zero series seemed a bit more manageable for some reason, but I just played the first game and didn't even like it that much.

(I'm more of a fan of the old original series games, Maverick Hunter X, Powered Up and the first BN game. Other than that, can't say I liked the other Megaman games.)
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Post by: Turian on June 21, 2010, 11:20:04 PM
...mostly the gameplay. I guess it's pretty standard fare in Megaman games, but while the simplistic "can't duck or shoot up" gameplay was fun back in the old 8-bit titles and heck, even excuseable in the X titles, it made me just quit the game and sell it right away on this one. The Zero series seemed a bit more manageable for some reason, but I just played the first game and didn't even like it that much.

(I'm more of a fan of the old original series games, Maverick Hunter X, Powered Up and the first BN game. Other than that, can't say I liked the other Megaman games.)

That's too bad, I really enjoyed the games for the same reasons you dislike them. I DO agree that they could have done more to innovate. But then again, that could be said of the whole series.
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Post by: Bueno Excelente on June 21, 2010, 11:28:19 PM
That's too bad, I really enjoyed the games for the same reasons you dislike them. I DO agree that they could have done more to innovate. But then again, that could be said of the whole series.
See, I NEVER understood the need for the "never shoot up or duck" mechanic. Then I played Megaman 2, and Megaman 9 (still the best, IMO). And I really understood that the gameplay mechanic was perfect for the games, perfect for the sprite size, and perfect for the level designs. It fit in really well.

...then it followed on into EVERYTHING and it got kinda tired. Dammit, I see Metal Slug-like graphics, I'm gonna need good, non-limiting gameplay to go with it.
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Post by: xnamkcor on June 22, 2010, 12:59:24 AM
If you want to aim, Axl is your man(boy?).

If ZX3 has  Model A(xl) and ducking in an ability, would you get it?
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Post by: Hypershell on June 22, 2010, 01:08:54 AM
This article is a look at the actual hardware, and it says that as the console will make a bigger effort to display the 3D, the graphics won't be as good in ACTUAL games.
I've seen plenty of PSP games that I consider a lot less eye-popping than the Kid Icarus reel, both MegaMan titles among them.  Then of course there is the Metal Gear Solid demo we saw; even if it wasn't gameplay, it was realtime.  And it looked freaking awesome.  I don't expect every dev will be encouraged to push the 3DS hardware to its fullest (just look at the Wii), but it seems capable enough to me.

I'd imagine the effort to display a 3D effect in a polygon game is probably comparable to doing 2-player split screen:  Programming-wise, if you're already working on a 3D plane, then it's just a matter of showing two different camera angles. 

"can't duck or shoot up" gameplay
Get equipped with: Model FX.

Yeah, ducking hasn't gotten much fanfare beyond X5/X6, but lots of MegaMan games including nearly all of Inticreates' have some means of multi-directional attack (all Rod weapons in the Zero-series, Model F/FX in ZX series, Bass in MM&B/MM10, and Axl in X8).

Megaman 9 (still the best, IMO)
The power of an 8-bit can of paint is truly amazing.  I for one do not believe 9 comes close to equaling the quality of actual NES games.  10 did better, though, if only there was some way to turn off that damn B trigger weapon switch.  You might want to consider a Classic controller for that.
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Post by: Bueno Excelente on June 22, 2010, 01:18:32 AM
If you want to aim, Axl is your man(boy?).

If ZX3 has  Model A(xl) and ducking in an ability, would you get it?
If ZX3 has the gameplay of Metal Slug, Gunstar Heroes or Contra, I'll get it.

Litmus test: What kind of performance drop do you see when a GCN game is running in split-screen?  3D in a polygon game is a simple matter of displaying two different camera angles.

That said, I've seen plenty of PSP games that I consider a lot less eye-popping than the Kid Icarus reel, both MegaMan titles among them.  Then of course there is the Metal Gear Solid demo we saw; even if it wasn't gameplay, it was realtime.  And it looked freaking awesome.  I don't expect every dev will be encouraged to push the 3DS hardware to its fullest (just look at the Wii), but it seems capable enough to me. 
Get equipped with: Model FX.
As I've said, seeing as there are tons of different opinions and analyses, we'll just have to wait and see.

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Yeah, ducking hasn't gotten much fanfare beyond X5/X6, but lots of MegaMan games including nearly all of Inticreates' have some means of multi-directional attack (all Rod weapons in the Zero-series, Model F/FX in ZX series, Bass in MM&B/MM10, and Axl in X8).
I don't want models or powerups that give me basic things. I want a game with an actual GAMEPLAY that lets me do crazy [parasitic bomb] and gives me more freedom. Megaman's a dude with a gun in his hand. He should be able to move better.

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The power of an 8-bit can of paint is truly amazing.  I for one do not believe 9 comes close to equaling the quality of actual NES games.  10 did better, though, if only there was some way to turn off that damn B trigger weapon switch.  You might want to consider a Classic controller for that.
I actually liked 9 ALOT, more than any of the NES titles, while 10 just seemed like it had much worse level design. 9 seemed... intuitive. Easier. Not frustrating. Things 8-bit Megaman games usually aren't.
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Post by: Mirby on June 22, 2010, 01:20:41 AM
I think your quote tags are having an orgy, Flash.
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Post by: Bueno Excelente on June 22, 2010, 01:23:36 AM
I think your quote tags are having an orgy, Flash.
Fixed.
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Post by: Hypershell on June 22, 2010, 01:24:21 AM
"Intuitive" is the last word I would ever use to describe that helicopter claw bastard.  Same goes for the occasional blind spike, jump-snaking, and enemies who very nearly match your running speed.  MegaMan may not be very free with aiming but he's gone to immense lengths when it comes to maneuverability; and 9 felt very frequently to me like the level design was throwing the basic run-and-jump limitations in your face.  10, I felt, was better built for the type of basic movement that they were trying to return to.
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Post by: Bueno Excelente on June 22, 2010, 01:30:03 AM
"Intuitive" is the last word I would ever use to describe that helicopter claw bastard.  Same goes for the occasional blind spike, jump-snaking, and enemies who very nearly match your running speed.  MegaMan may not be very free with aiming but he's gone to immense lengths when it comes to maneuverability; and 9 felt very frequently to me like the level design was throwing the basic run-and-jump limitations in your face.  10, I felt, was better built for the type of basic movement that they were trying to return to.
Awwww, I loved that helicopter claw dude! He actually never killed me once. But I think it was because of sheer dumb luck. The first one got me, and the second one missed me by an inch. I ended up being more careful through the whole stage. And I dunno, enemy positioning and platforming just seemed better in 9.
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Post by: Hypershell on June 22, 2010, 01:34:46 AM
I ended up being more careful through the whole stage.
You like to aim, I like to not pussyfoot.  Different strokes.  If they didn't come from completely off-screen with no warning, maybe it'd be different.

I don't want models or powerups that give me basic things. I want a game with an actual GAMEPLAY that lets me do crazy [parasitic bomb] and gives me more freedom. Megaman's a dude with a gun in his hand. He should be able to move better.
Well, then the ZX formula is as likely to please you as Goldmember with a schmoke and a pancake.  The whole schtick of that game is that the different Models each provide their own unique spin on combat.

That still leaves Bass and Axl as probably being worth your time, though, since they're a matter of player choice and not of game progress.  In particular, in X8, all of Axl's weapons (default and special) are aim-able.
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Post by: Bueno Excelente on June 22, 2010, 01:40:49 AM
You like to aim, I like to not pussyfoot.  Different strokes.  If they didn't come from completely off-screen with no warning, maybe it'd be different.
Well, then the ZX formula is as likely to please you as Goldmember with a schmoke and a pancake.  The whole schtick of that game is that the different Models each provide their own unique spin on combat.

That still leaves Bass and Axl as probably being worth your time, though, since they're a matter of player choice and not of game progress.  In particular, in X8, all of Axl's weapons (default and special) are aim-able.
You don't have to pussyfoot. You just have to stop once the helicopter thing comes through the top of the screen. Simple short reaction time is needed. As long as you know the general areas where it happens, there's no problem. And I'm not one for very careful aiming. I just like being able to hit enemies that logically I should be able to hit, having a damn cannon in my arm.

And last time I played any of the later X games, I wasn't impressed. =P Seriously, it's great to try to interest me in Megaman games, but I'm absolutely gonna stay away from them except for the very best titles that come out of the franchise. Worked out for me so far, and I loved it.
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Post by: Hypershell on June 22, 2010, 03:25:22 AM
Simple short reaction time is needed. As long as you know the general areas where it happens...
That's my problem.  The obstacle is in no way difficult, but it absolutely requires prior knowledge, and is not the only obstacle in MM9 to do so.  To me that's bad level design.  The whole stunt comes off as blind-siding.  You'll never react in time if you don't already know to look for it.

Classic is known for throwing a few "stay sharp" scenarios at you but generally leaves you with far more realistic odds for reaction time than 9 did; ie: the first spike-drop you have to avoid in Splash Woman's stage is twice as wide as comparable traps in 2 and 3, which does not leave you enough time to evade it unless you already know it's there.  Further, they are the first spikes you see in the stage, appearing utterly without warning.  Such cheap tricks make the game feel less like MegaMan and more like I Wanna Be The Guy.
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Post by: Bueno Excelente on June 22, 2010, 01:27:21 PM
That's my problem.  The obstacle is in no way difficult, but it absolutely requires prior knowledge, and is not the only obstacle in MM9 to do so.  To me that's bad level design.  The whole stunt comes off as blind-siding.  You'll never react in time if you don't already know to look for it.

Classic is known for throwing a few "stay sharp" scenarios at you but generally leaves you with far more realistic odds for reaction time than 9 did; ie: the first spike-drop you have to avoid in Splash Woman's stage is twice as wide as comparable traps in 2 and 3, which does not leave you enough time to evade it unless you already know it's there.  Further, they are the first spikes you see in the stage, appearing utterly without warning.  Such cheap tricks make the game feel less like MegaMan and more like I Wanna Be The Guy.
Funnily enough, I found MM9 ridiculously easy compared to pretty much all of the 8-bit titles. XD But I dunno, as far as I've seen, it's only my opinion. I'm the wierd one here. I'm far from any kind of expert on Megaman, I just played a few games and found some fun.
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Post by: Solar on June 22, 2010, 03:53:15 PM
You're not alone, honestly, I feel 9's difficulty is overrated, even the supposedly cheap stuff like the spikes in Splashwoman's stage never seemed like much to me. Hero and Superhero mode however...
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Post by: Bueno Excelente on June 22, 2010, 03:57:38 PM
You're not alone, honestly, I feel 9's difficulty is overrated, even the supposedly cheap stuff like the spikes in Splashwoman's stage never seemed like much to me. Hero and Superhero mode however...
To be BRUTALLY honest, I actually find 9 the one Megaman game I had the most fun with. Heck, it was the game that made me go "Hey, Megaman is pretty good." =P I still abhore the fact that Wily levels still don't have saves in-between them.
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Post by: Tenshi on June 22, 2010, 04:08:24 PM
To be BRUTALLY honest, I actually find 9 the one Megaman game I had the most fun with. Heck, it was the game that made me go "Hey, Megaman is pretty good." =P I still abhore the fact that Wily levels still don't have saves in-between them.
I don't mind it too much, albeit it can be annoying when I want to take a break and don't want to leave my console on. It's rare for me to want to take a break from those awesome levels which generally have kickass music and bosses, though.
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Post by: CephiYumi on June 22, 2010, 04:40:25 PM
Dunno if this has been posted yet or if this is the right place to put it but...
I'll jus put it here

http://japan.gamespot.com/videos/story/0,3800076101,20415519,00.htm
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Post by: Bueno Excelente on June 22, 2010, 04:56:49 PM
Dunno if this has been posted yet or if this is the right place to put it but...
I'll jus put it here

http://japan.gamespot.com/videos/story/0,3800076101,20415519,00.htm
Looks good. But HOW DOES IT FIT IN THE TIMELINE?
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Post by: xnamkcor on June 22, 2010, 05:20:54 PM
If ZX3 has the gameplay of Metal Slug, Gunstar Heroes or Contra, I'll get it.
As I've said, seeing as there are tons of different opinions and analyses, we'll just have to wait and see.
I don't want models or powerups that give me basic things. I want a game with an actual GAMEPLAY that lets me do crazy [parasitic bomb] and gives me more freedom. Megaman's a dude with a gun in his hand. He should be able to move better.
How would you feel about a Front Mission: Gun Hazard style upgrade/weapon system?
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Post by: CephiYumi on June 22, 2010, 05:25:47 PM
Looks good. But HOW DOES IT FIT IN THE TIMELINE?

Probably the easiest place to fit it would be after RE5 I would think o.o  He never mentioned anything about having an evil twin in 5 >w<
Also, looks like there is another spencer mansion replica on that ship ^^;;
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Post by: Phi on June 22, 2010, 07:41:33 PM
Dunno if this has been posted yet or if this is the right place to put it but...
I'll jus put it here

http://japan.gamespot.com/videos/story/0,3800076101,20415519,00.htm
dem grafix sure is purdy.

seriously, besides the amount of poly's and certain shading, it looks pretty much like RE5. at least from a distance.
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Post by: Klavier Gavin on June 22, 2010, 08:28:47 PM
Nintendo's Latest Investor Q&A - 3DS digital distribution confirmed, first party support, online play, broader audience (http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=127736)

Iwata - 3DS video chat is possible, price/launch details soon (http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=127758)
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Post by: Thanatos-Zero on June 22, 2010, 08:37:48 PM
It is for certain wonderful that we get a new and much better NDS, but I would be more delighted, if we get the option to play those 3DS and earlier NDS games on a TV with the Wii.
We got Super Gameboy 1, Super Gameboy 2 and the Gameboy Player. So where is the next one in line?
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Post by: xnamkcor on June 22, 2010, 08:47:27 PM
It is for certain wonderful that we get a new and much better NDS, but I would be more delighted, if we get the option to play those 3DS and earlier NDS games on a TV with the Wii.
We got Super Gameboy 1, Super Gameboy 2 and the Gameboy Player. So where is the next one in line?

Pay for the game again on Virtual Console.
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Post by: Align on June 22, 2010, 09:02:16 PM
Nintendo's Latest Investor Q&A - 3DS digital distribution confirmed, first party support, online play, broader audience (http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=127736)
More broad than before?
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Post by: Bueno Excelente on June 22, 2010, 09:34:34 PM
How would you feel about a Front Mission: Gun Hazard style upgrade/weapon system?
I'd feel, um...

...what's Front Mission: Gun Hazard?

Also, I voiced my opinion about the GAMEPLAY. If the core gameplay is limited, upgrades normally don't do alot to change it. And having an upgrade for stuff like ducking or pointing your weapon is stupid.


Probably the easiest place to fit it would be after RE5 I would think o.o  He never mentioned anything about having an evil twin in 5 >w<
Also, looks like there is another spencer mansion replica on that ship ^^;;
Blame it on bad montage.
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Post by: Align on June 22, 2010, 10:05:06 PM
Front Mission: Gun Hazard (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCll9e8GIe4).
A number of cool things in it, but really gets on my tits because of how essentially impossible it is to get through a mission unharmed, even though that's just part of how it plays. I'm too used to going for S-rank in MMZ...
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Post by: Bueno Excelente on June 22, 2010, 10:07:23 PM
Front Mission: Gun Hazard (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCll9e8GIe4).
A number of cool things in it, but really gets on my tits because of how essentially impossible it is to get through a mission unharmed, even though that's just part of how it plays. I'm too used to going for S-rank in MMZ...
So the upgrade system changes it alot?

Because I don't think any upgrade system can dramatically completely change a game's gameplay, at least the way I meant.
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Post by: Align on June 22, 2010, 10:33:54 PM
The upgrade system can change a great deal of things, but you start out with like 16-directional aiming and jump jets. Video might not show it off too great, but it's worth a gander.
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Post by: Bueno Excelente on June 22, 2010, 11:00:46 PM
The upgrade system can change a great deal of things, but you start out with like 16-directional aiming and jump jets. Video might not show it off too great, but it's worth a gander.
See, those are good things to start with.Only being able to shoot forward is kinda lame when your game is all super well-looking.
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Post by: Hypershell on June 23, 2010, 12:19:54 AM
Iwata - 3DS video chat is possible, price/launch details soon (http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=127758)
As the commentators on that article said (and this was the first thing to come to my mind), doing the chat in 3D is not possible with the E3 3DS model due to there being only one camera on the console's inside.  However, I do recall hearing somewhere that the E3 model was not final (I personally am hoping that they add a DS-style microphone jack, because I like to voice chat with a headset rather than concerning myself with what part of the system I'm speaking to).

Oh well, I could care less about video chat.  My main chat-concern is during gameplay.  And it's something that's been technologically possible on the DS since launch; so that's a matter of Nintendo's policies.
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Post by: xnamkcor on June 23, 2010, 01:40:17 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if the headphone jack was a 4 ring style that accepts stereo out+mic.

I remember that you don't start with the jets, but you can buy a basic model early on. Later you can buy, not just better, but jump jets with different essential functions(e.g. hover. extra jump).  More use results in level ups. I think the exp system also applies to dash and weapons.
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Post by: VixyNyan on June 30, 2010, 12:00:00 AM
"Hands on with the 3DS, the undisputed star of this year’s E3" (http://www.vooks.net/story-19322-Hands-on-with-the-3DS-the-undisputed-star-of-this-years-E3.html)

Have some game card~ :cookie:

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/3dshandson1.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/3dshandson2.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/3dshandson3.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/3dshandson4.jpg)
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Post by: Bueno Excelente on June 30, 2010, 12:30:56 AM
What is that thing on the second picture?
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Post by: Sakura Leic on June 30, 2010, 12:38:01 AM
It looks like a game case.
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Post by: Dexter Dexter on June 30, 2010, 12:39:12 AM
CHARGING BAY? 0v0 *shits a steel I-beam*
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Post by: Sakura Leic on June 30, 2010, 12:48:40 AM
CHARGING BAY? 0v0 *shits a steel I-beam*
I'm not really familiar with charging bays, does that mean you can charge it without having to plug it into an outlet?
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Post by: xnamkcor on June 30, 2010, 05:32:49 PM
I'm not really familiar with charging bays, does that mean you can charge it without having to plug it into an outlet?
No, but good guess.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bay
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Post by: Jericho on September 18, 2010, 04:46:25 AM
Ripped from GAF

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The computers for Gamestop have added the Nintendo 3DS in the system now, along with 18 games and 14 accessories listed as available for taking pre-orders on September 29th. They also have a listed a shipping date of November 22nd. (Since postal services are out on weekends, the Nov 20/2010 Sat is the most logical release date, as the orders would be delivered on Monday the 22nd).

Source (http://nintendo3dsblog.com/gamestop-adds-nintendo-3ds-games-and-accessories-to-their-system-sets-a-november-22nd-release-date)

I need to go ly dow, I'm so excite now. 8)

EDIT: Actually the news is even better, it seems as though this is a simultaneous worldwide launch. Suddenly I'm having visions of Christmas brawls over Tickle Me Elmo & PS2 launch madness. XD

Edit 2: As much as there seemed to be a ton of info pointing towards this conclusion (3DS release this year as opposed to next), it would seem as though we are looking at an elaborate hoax that was debunked by several Gamestop employees also posting on GAF. [parasitic bomb] sucks. :(
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Post by: Solar on September 18, 2010, 04:53:48 AM
This is going to be such an awesome Christmas...
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Post by: Gaia on September 18, 2010, 04:57:42 AM
Oh yes, this year will be the most entertaining, if I could save a little more and it doesn't go over mah budget.
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Post by: Jericho on September 18, 2010, 05:00:23 AM
I AM BROKE AS [tornado fang] AND STILL GOING TO HAVE THIS DAY ONE. XD
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: N-Mario on September 18, 2010, 05:24:26 AM
How new is this news announcement? Nintendo still hasn't confirmed anything. We don't even have a price yet, just a release date. Worldwide release?

So far it only sounds like whatever GAF is and GameSpot are the only ones that have a date. Can we really say that these are confirmed dates if it's anything BUT Nintendo themselves?
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Post by: Protoman Blues on September 18, 2010, 05:26:59 AM
This makes me so happy I could BARK LIKE A DOG!
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on September 18, 2010, 05:30:24 AM
Oh yeah I just found this out today at a game shop I found out about last week, I also heard a rumor it's going to be $150-$200.
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Post by: Gaia on September 18, 2010, 05:31:52 AM
Oh yeah I just found this out today at a game shop I found out about last week, I also heard a rumor it's going to be $150-$200.

*shakes fist* CURSES! I might just have to wait until Christmas..
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Post by: Sakura Leic on September 18, 2010, 07:10:18 AM
Danm it I knew it was too good to be true. 
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Post by: Solar on September 18, 2010, 07:11:12 AM
On the bright side this gives more time for saving money.
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Post by: Sakura Leic on September 18, 2010, 07:12:34 AM
That's true if it was really between $150-$200 I would on needed 5 more months not including christmas money.
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Post by: N-Mario on September 18, 2010, 07:13:43 AM
LOL I KNEW IT! I knew this was a bit too soon for Nintendo to release it this early! I should trust my instincts more often. :)
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Post by: Black Mage J on September 18, 2010, 07:16:27 AM
It really did sound too soon to be true. Now this gives everyone time to scrounge up money to buy the system and launch games.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: The Drunken Dishwasher on September 18, 2010, 07:51:03 AM
Thankfully i'm a patient person.  (and drunk) so...i'll see how things till' (most likely) the second revision of the 3DS.  By then I should have a good backlog of what to buy then :)
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Post by: Gotham Ranger on September 18, 2010, 09:28:41 AM
I'm glad. I can't afford one now.
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Post by: Hypershell on September 18, 2010, 04:21:10 PM
To hell with the lot of you, I'm too impatient! O:<

Oh well.  Not much I can do except hope for a kickass game or two on my birthday.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on September 18, 2010, 05:41:05 PM
Rushing things isn't good. The regular DS still has the potencial to last for a big while, and we just got a new model recently. We don't want Nintendo to turn into Apple and release new hardware constantly, so we have to keep buying new [parasitic bomb] to be updated.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 18, 2010, 06:09:59 PM
The Dream is Dead. Nintendo 3DS Release Date Rumor Debunked. :(

This pleases me.

We'll find out on the 29th anyway.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on September 18, 2010, 07:22:13 PM
Rushing things isn't good. The regular DS still has the potencial to last for a big while, and we just got a new model recently. We don't want Nintendo to turn into Apple and release new hardware constantly, so we have to keep buying new [parasitic bomb] to be updated.
According to Nintendo's statements the 3DS will not be seeing release any later than 3 months after the rumor, so I think that ship has sailed.  Besides, the 3DS is an actual new system, not a hardware revision as the DSi XL was.

The DS certainly has the popularity/userbase to last a while longer, but some developers are shying away due to flash carts.  I don't really buy that, but sometimes perception itself can be enough of a threat.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on September 18, 2010, 07:38:21 PM
Hardware revisions still need lifespans.
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Post by: Hypershell on September 20, 2010, 02:59:41 AM
(http://www.games4lessfl.com/retroroom/_img/retro/NintendoGameboyMicro.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on September 20, 2010, 04:04:34 AM
(http://www.games4lessfl.com/retroroom/_img/retro/NintendoGameboyMicro.jpg)
Which did not have much of a lifespan or popularity.

...it didn't have much relevance either, might I say. It was more of an extra collector's piece than anything, since the SP was still considered the best way to play GBA games.
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Post by: Hypershell on September 20, 2010, 04:30:29 AM
My point.  The XL is an over-sized monstrosity created for the sole purpose of over-the-shoulder viewing, functionally identical to the previous model  (and as the basic DSi already enjoys larger displays/wider angles than the DS/Lite, the point is kinda redundant).  It's no upgrade, merely a matter of preference, and no less a novelty than the Micro was.

The Micro just had it tougher because it suffered functionality issues (lack of GBC support and incompatible link cables).  The backlit SP is the best way to go, but I must admit an Ammonite face place and a headphone jack sans adaptor of any sort do sound sweet once in a while.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on September 20, 2010, 11:22:10 AM
Not talking about the XL. Talking about the DSi itself. We haven't even got some of those downloadable games which were promised down the line back when it was announced. Some people bought it specifically to get those games, what is the 3DS comes out before they do? Will they be left looking dumb, knowing that they bought an extra Nintendo console when they really didn't have to?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on September 20, 2010, 08:02:11 PM
Some people bought it specifically to get those games, what is the 3DS comes out before they do? Will they be left looking dumb, knowing that they bought an extra Nintendo console when they really didn't have to?

They might, yes. Doesn't matter, cause they're still getting the 3DS when it comes out.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Jericho on September 22, 2010, 03:43:49 AM
Well, since it seems like there's going to be a huge amount of info on the most hotly anticipated portable device since perhaps the original Game Boy, I figured RPM needed a decent catch all thread. We kick things off with a very intriguing quote on the internals of the 3DS and much to nobody's surprise, it seems to be a genuine article Nintendo design. It favors battery life and low heat solutions over raw power and grunt work. With that all said, here's the quote from IGN:

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New Nintendo 3DS Hardware Info

IGN has learned that the Nintendo 3DS will pack not one, but two 266MHz ARM11 CPUs, along with a 133MHz GPU, 4MBs of dedicated VRAM, 64MBs of RAM, and 1.5GBs of flash storage. The information comes from persons familiar with the hardware who spoke to us under the condition of anonymity.

While we were unable to determine which variation of the ARM11 processors the 3DS will feature, we now have a better sense of the system's capabilities. Currently there are a number of devices being powered by the ARM11, including the Zune HD, a variety of Android smartphones, and prior to the introduction of Apple's A4 processor, the iPhone and iPod touch.

"Numerous developers working on software for the platform have likened its graphical capabilities to current-generation consoles like the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, albeit on smaller, lower-resolution screens.

The handheld will also have substantially larger storage capacity than preceding models, jumping from only 256MBs on the DSi to 1.5GBs of flash memory on the 3DS. The total drive space can, of course, be expanded using the 3DS' SD card slot.

Source (http://gear.ign.com/articles/112/1122613p1.html)

For those less technologically inclined, or those who are but want the layman's terms for this all, here's a breakdown quote courtesy of one of the more knowledgeable GAF members on the subject, brain_stew:

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Those specs seem eerily realistic, so yeah I'm quite happy to believe they're real.

The CPU setup is interesting but perhaps not surprising, two low clocked CPUs can often mean a lower powerdraw than one higher clocked CPUs (both Intel and AMD use this approach in their netbook chips and ARM themselves are going this way with the Cortex A9 and Eagle) and it should make BC with the NDS (which is a dual CPU system as well) a lot easier.

266mhz is a super low clockspeed for an ARM11 chip but two of them together should be more than sufficient I would think. I never expected an A8 and was kinda worried they'd go with something even simpler so two modestly clocked ARM11 is decent news in my book. Loading just two CPU cores really isn't all that difficult these days, most developers have plenty experience loading 6+ threads now and its even a skill NDS developers had to learn. The amount of L2 cache will have a big say in just how well those ARM11s perform.

64MB always seemed the most likely from what we'd seen so far but I was still hoping for 128MB.

We knew about the dedicated memory but a dedicated 4MB framebuffer is pretty damn roomy considering the modest rendering resolution.

The 133mhz GPU clockspeed tells us little really without knowing how many pipelines the chip has but its certainly not discouraging news. A 100mhz or lower clockspeed didn't seem out of the question previously

I really like the design, it seems to take all the good points of the various previous generation systems without any of the drawbacks and it should deliver fantastic battery life. I'd definitely take this design over a PS2 and GCN and probably even an Xbox as well because of the dedicated framebuffer which overcomes one of the major bottlenecks of that system.

One things clear, its certainly a gaming focused design. This really wouldn't be very good at all for a smartphone but for a machine that only has to worry about pumping out great looking games it seems to be terrifically balanced. Its not cutting edge but its a smart use of the available technology to deliver a system that should deliver the best gaming experience for the given cost and power constraints. Pretty much precisely what you'd expect from a Nintendo system.

And finally, here's an interesting tidbit that can leave you all wondering what will really be possible on the 3DS:

Quote from: Is the iPhone 4 superior to the 3DS?

In general CPU performance? Absolutely
As a general computing device? Absolutely
As a dedicated gaming device? Hard to say

Honestly people that were expecting a 1GHz A9 need to get a reality check. Go run the Epic Citadel demo on your iPhone 4 until the battery runs out and I doubt that thing will last 3 hours. Sorry but Nintendo don't have some exclusive magic battery technology and Apple are already pretty damn good at optimising for battery life. If you want this thing to last 10 hours in games then something had to be sacrificed and I'm glad it was general CPU performance.

As for RAM, 64MB (+4MB dedicated) really isn't that bad at all. Its better than anything from last generation and if people were happy with the textures in Xbox games when displayed at 480p on a bog screen TV, I'm sure the same resolution textures will look just fine at 240p on a 3" screen. My desire for 128MB was mostly motivated for performance in other tasks (like a web browser) and because it would have allowed Nintendo to develop a nice and fully featured OS/dashboard that ran at all times. It would have been nice for games, sure but it isn't a dealbreaker. Anything more than 128MB really wouldn't have made any difference in games at all, I'm quite sure of that as the hardware just isn't powerful enough to take proper advantage of it.

64MB actually compares pretty damn well to the amount of memory iOS apps/renderpaths which aren't ES 2.0 exclusive have access to actually. Its only stuff like Citadel which target the high end devices exclusively that can take advantage of that extra RAM and even then the OS eats into a major chunk of it.

Quote from: 3DS as an effects machine
In terms of the effects and technology they're using, we already have the evidence of that. Decent 3DS games are packing in most of the important technology from PS3/360 games that makes them games stand out, only its ran at much lower precision, the geometary counts are an order of magnitude lower or more and not all the technology makes the transition either.

Though if Capcom can manage to produce a 3DS engine in 3 months that has decent quality dynamic shadowmaps, self shadowing, HDR rendering, colourgrading, object based motion blur, per pixel lighting, lots of normal mapping and specular highlights then its not difficult to see where that line of thinking comes from, really. Of course the hardware is no where near the 360 but that doesn't mean to say that a lot of the technology that defines the look of this generation can't run in real time on the 3DS with slightly better than PSP levels of geometary and Xbox calibre texturing.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 22, 2010, 03:59:39 AM
Is it the 29th yet? ;_;
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: HokutoNoBen on September 22, 2010, 04:15:30 AM
In the end, like every other machine, the life blood of the console is not purely reliant on its innards; it will definitely be the games.

So, that's what I'm most interested in, at the moment. I want to only see more of what's on the way.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Jericho on September 22, 2010, 04:20:17 AM
In the end, like every other machine, the life blood of the console is not purely reliant on its innards; it will definitely be the games.

So, that's what I'm most interested in, at the moment. I want to only see more of what's on the way.

Can't be said enough my friend. Even if I've always had that secret side of myself that loves understanding the innards, "It's all about the gamin' baby." 8D

That said, I do believe that Kid Icarus & Paper Mario will make launch day. Anything else is beyond me. [/adding speculations to this thread since I forgot to mention all speculation happens here]
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Post by: Protoman Blues on September 22, 2010, 04:22:47 AM
Instantly bought! Or bought for me. XD
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: HokutoNoBen on September 22, 2010, 04:24:27 AM
Paper Mario will definitely be in my collection, too. I'm doubting Pit will make launch, but all really need at this point is at least one Mario game, and hopefully that Star Fox 64 remake. They give me at least that much, and I'm good. Don't necessarily need OoT again, unless they'll give us a nice extra of some sort (like say, "Sheik Mode", like and others have always wanted)! 8D
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Post by: Acid on September 22, 2010, 04:25:51 AM
I NEED my Paper Mario. It's exxential for survival.
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Post by: Protoman Blues on September 22, 2010, 04:28:39 AM
Paper Mario will definitely be in my collection, too. I'm doubting Pit will make launch, but all really need at this point is at least one Mario game, and hopefully that Star Fox 64 remake. They give me at least that much, and I'm good. Don't necessarily need OoT again, unless they'll give us a nice extra of some sort (like say, "Sheik Mode", like and others have always wanted)! 8D

But Ben, it's Ocarina of Time in THREE DEE!  8D

And I think Pit will make the launch-icus. You know what, I'm gonna watch that trailer again...
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Post by: Solar on September 22, 2010, 04:31:54 AM
Pit is definitely making the launch, it'd be kinda weird if the most hyped title for the console when it was revealed wasn't gonna be ready for launch. Also, I second Acid's comment on Paper Mario.

In the end, like every other machine, the life blood of the console is not purely reliant on its innards; it will definitely be the games.

So, that's what I'm most interested in, at the moment. I want to only see more of what's on the way.

True, but honestly just by seeing the lineup of games announced for it already I don't feel like we should worry about the games at all. Seriously, I can't remember a single time before when there were so many interesting games before the console was even out.
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Post by: Protoman Blues on September 22, 2010, 04:40:59 AM
It'd be great if Star Fox 64-3D was a release title.
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Post by: Acid on September 22, 2010, 04:43:25 AM
So, any news from Capcom regarding that MM games that's supposed to be released for this?

Heeeeeeeey... wait a minuuuuuute...

Could it be...? (http://forum.rockmanpm.com/index.php?topic=5277.msg282346#msg282346)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on September 22, 2010, 05:28:04 AM
WE NEED HYDROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THUNDER IN 3-D!
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Align on September 22, 2010, 12:52:58 PM
In the end, like every other machine, the life blood of the console is not purely reliant on its innards; it will definitely be the games.
Naturally, but... for the first time we have a handheld gaming device capable of 3d graphics where you can't count the polygons. Now it'll just be art style holding games back from looking amazing.
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Post by: TheOnly on September 22, 2010, 08:37:10 PM
Sounds like a keeper to me. :D
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Post by: The Blind Archer on September 22, 2010, 09:32:49 PM
WE NEED HYDROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THUNDER IN 3-D!

I'll take twenty.

THREE!  TWO!  ONE! GO, GO, GOOOOO!
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on September 22, 2010, 11:42:18 PM
Man, the 29th can't come quick enough! Oh, and i guess i'll just toss the DOA:D website (http://www.gamecity.ne.jp/doad/) in this thread. Awesome looking screens there. Admittidly though, i have never played a DOA game in my life.
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Post by: Black Mage J on September 22, 2010, 11:46:11 PM
Man, the 29th can't come quick enough! Oh, and i guess i'll just toss the DOA:D website (http://www.gamecity.ne.jp/doad/) in this thread. Awesome looking screens there. Admittidly though, i have never played a DOA game in my life.
Played a demo of it. It was sexy and fun at the same time! I'm sure Vixy and PB will approve of it.
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Post by: VixyNyan on September 23, 2010, 01:56:55 AM
I'm sure Vixy and PB will approve of it.

You know, I actually do! XD
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 23, 2010, 11:07:39 PM
3DS buttons to be backlit? (http://www.nintendo3ds.org.uk/3ds-buttons-to-be-backlit/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed:+nintendo-3ds+(Nintendo+3DS))
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Post by: Acid on September 23, 2010, 11:12:54 PM
That's... actually something I don't really care about.
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Post by: Phi on September 23, 2010, 11:17:18 PM
While that would be cool, it probably won't actually be like that. It was most likely just for presentation.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on September 25, 2010, 03:08:00 AM
Regardless of 3DS release timing the DSi was badly handled.  While it is "technically" a new system, it hasn't been properly marketed as such.  And why should they?  It was too much of a baby step.  The DSiWare shop is a half-assed mess of sitting through load times for shovelware after shovelware, and the DSi's extra processing muscle (double speed and 4 times the RAM) has been used for virtually nothing other than improved web browsing.  Not the greatest lure for giving up that GBA slot.  Sure, the general system interface kicks butt, but frankly the only reason I even own a DSi is because my original's top screen cracked.

Posted on: September 25, 2010, 01:45:49
Gaming systems aren't phones, the buttons are much more easily found by touch.  Although, since the 3DS throws a Home button into the mix, maybe some assurance that one doesn't hit it by accident when fumbling for Start/Select may not be a bad idea.

And I think Pit will make the launch-icus. You know what, I'm gonna watch that trailer again...
Damn straight.  I think I'll do the same. 8)

There's tons of awesome 3DS games in the works from what I've seen, but Kid Icarus DEFINITELY has me the most psyched, and is the title I most want to see at launch (I'm confident that I will, too, it's been hyped the most and from what I gather in dev interviews has already been in development a while).
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Post by: Ike-Mike on September 25, 2010, 01:18:06 PM
Rushing things isn't good. The regular DS still has the potencial to last for a big while, and we just got a new model recently. We don't want Nintendo to turn into Apple and release new hardware constantly, so we have to keep buying new [parasitic bomb] to be updated.
On the other hand when Nintendo took their sweet time with the N64 and gamecube they stopped being the market leader.
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Post by: Hypershell on September 25, 2010, 05:00:26 PM
I don't think release timing had much to do with that.  Both the Wii and the Super NES launched in the face of competitors who were on the scene for a year or two.  Further, the N64 suffered some troublesome issues with system architecture, particularly its small texture cache.

It's actually pretty unusual for Nintendo to be early out of the gate, but on the handheld market they don't have much in the way of competition.  The PSP is simply the "least badly trashed" of which, and I'm pretty sure at this point Nintendo considers piracy and public perception to be larger threats than whatever Sony's cooking.
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Post by: Acid on September 25, 2010, 07:33:24 PM
http://nintendo3dsblog.com/capcom-talks-about-resident-evil-revelations-demonstrates-their-mt-framework

[spoiler](http://d2d4v0youxjmah.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Nintendo-3DS-HR-Resident-Evil.jpg)

Capcom uses their own set of technologies known as the MT Framework to allow them to easily port games between hardware. The fact that it’s compatible with the Nintendo 3DS could make you wonder, was Resident Evil: Revelations  destined for another platform at some point? Has it just been moved over at the last minute? But alas, wonder no more! Jun Takeuchi, Capcom’s head of production, has confirmed in an interview that “[Revelations] is a completely new project that we started up after hearing about the 3DS. It’s not a project that was progressing on separate hardware and was moved to the 3DS.”

And, just in case your still doubtful that the current footage of Revelations is not rendered in real time, Takeuchi shares that “the images since the game’s E3 unveiling have all been real time rendered on the 3DS development hardware. It seems as though people didn’t believe us at first, but we’d like you to know that the 3DS is capable of this level of expressive power.”

It’s also confirmed that Nintendo has actually “forbade developers from sharing final graphics specs for the 3DS” but Capcom were still able to share insight into their own technologies, including a nice batch of screenshots that show Resident Evil: Revelations with and without various features (such as HDR, color correction and motion blur) turned on. Check them out after the break.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Jericho on September 25, 2010, 07:58:41 PM
I'm actually shocked that I didn't link to the Andriasang version of that same article in the OP. XD

But yes, that's what was being referenced in the quotes up there about what Capcom has accomplished here.
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Post by: Hypershell on September 26, 2010, 12:22:00 AM
It's nice that they stepped up to the plate to clear up the confusion about that trailer.  I'm not sure where the claims of it being pre-rendered came from; it always struck me as looking sloppy by FMV standards.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on September 26, 2010, 12:34:20 AM
It's nice that they stepped up to the plate to clear up the confusion about that trailer.  I'm not sure where the claims of it being pre-rendered came from; it always struck me as looking sloppy by FMV standards.

Perhaps since this looked massively more detailed than Kid Icarus, they expected the graphics to be around that level. (i also thought it was pre-rendered at first. watching it over and over again, i then realized it was real time) Especially looking at Revelations as well as DOA, i do hope Kid Icarus improves a lot visually later on in development.

But honestly if it doesn't, it wouldn't make me any less excited for it.
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Post by: Hypershell on September 26, 2010, 04:49:18 AM
I recall some interview with Sakurai which implied that the 3DS specs were not finalized when Kid Icarus started development, merely that he was told he'd be working with a "more powerful DS".

Even so, I think a lot of the difference is art style.  Kid Icarus is more anime-ish while RE and DOA are more realistic.  My understanding is that the 3DS's GPU has a boatload of features to aid in realistic lighting/shading.  Looking closely, you can spot imperfections in the actual shapes of the models in something like the RE trailer, and these are likely more apparent in anime-style shading.

But to be honest I think Kid Icarus's visuals are looking pretty awesome.  Crisp colors, long draw distance, lovely environments, and the general style IMHO kicks the crap out of the OoT remake screenshots that were released.

Plus, Medusa looks dead sexy. 8)
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Post by: Protoman Blues on September 26, 2010, 07:59:57 AM
Yeaaaah, Medusa's pretty hot!
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on September 26, 2010, 08:07:53 PM
But to be honest I think Kid Icarus's visuals are looking pretty awesome.  Crisp colors, long draw distance, lovely environments, and the general style IMHO kicks the crap out of the OoT remake screenshots that were released.

While i do agree that the areas look great, i still think that he could have easily ported Pit's exact model from Brawl. We all know the 3DS is capable. It does look like the Brawl model obviously, but you can tell that he appears to be a bit more "blocky" compared to that; not the quality they used for Wii. Either way, it's a small complaint.

As for the OoT remake, yeah, it looks generally like a slightly updated version of the original. But, who knows how things will change in the end.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Jericho on September 26, 2010, 11:07:43 PM
While i do agree that the areas look great, i still think that he could have easily ported Pit's exact model from Brawl. We all know the 3DS is capable. It does look like the Brawl model obviously, but you can tell that he appears to be a bit more "blocky" compared to that; not the quality they used for Wii. Either way, it's a small complaint.

I think this might be more due to the 3DS' polygon limit considering all the other geometry going on in game. I get the feeling that Sakurai (and other Nintendo devs) are going to have to step their game up on what a good use of shaders can do for their games (especially ones where they have avatar characters) because excellent modelling won't be enough if they still want to maintain a good level of complexity in game.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on September 26, 2010, 11:17:43 PM
Well, from what I've seen on the 3DS, it seems to be a kickass, almost godly handheld that I will want forever but in the end never be able to afford.

Oh well. It's nice to look at.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Acid on October 02, 2010, 07:32:13 PM
Can I post this here?

http://www.talesunion.com/news/tales-of-the-abyss-3ds-announced--1296.html

[spoiler]Namco Bandai has announced that they will be bringing Tales of the Abyss to the Nintendo 3DS in 2011, which has now been reported on by a variety of different sources.

Tales of the Abyss was originally released on the PlayStation 2 on December 15, 2005 and was localized in North America on October 10, 2006. The game was regarded as an improvement over Tales of Symphonia, extending that game's 3-line battle system into a battle system which allows players to freely move about the field in battle.

The news first broke when Famitsu put up a list of Nintendo 3DS titles, which included Tales of the Abyss. Many were unsure if it was a mistake until NBGI's webmaster sent out a tweet confirming the game and tentative 2011 release date.

4Gamer.net has put up some screenshots of the game, which look near identical to the game, albeit at a smaller resolution. No word has been given on an North American or European release of the title.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on October 02, 2010, 09:29:09 PM
Can I post this here?

http://www.talesunion.com/news/tales-of-the-abyss-3ds-announced--1296.html

[spoiler]Namco Bandai has announced that they will be bringing Tales of the Abyss to the Nintendo 3DS in 2011, which has now been reported on by a variety of different sources.

Tales of the Abyss was originally released on the PlayStation 2 on December 15, 2005 and was localized in North America on October 10, 2006. The game was regarded as an improvement over Tales of Symphonia, extending that game's 3-line battle system into a battle system which allows players to freely move about the field in battle.

The news first broke when Famitsu put up a list of Nintendo 3DS titles, which included Tales of the Abyss. Many were unsure if it was a mistake until NBGI's webmaster sent out a tweet confirming the game and tentative 2011 release date.

4Gamer.net has put up some screenshots of the game, which look near identical to the game, albeit at a smaller resolution. No word has been given on an North American or European release of the title.[/spoiler]

OH THANKS A LOT DUDE. NOW I'M FORCED TO GET ONE.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Ike-Mike on October 05, 2010, 04:22:31 PM
Or maybe, just maybe, Sakurai is compensating polygons so the screen can be chock-full with enemies at any given time.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Flame on October 05, 2010, 04:36:10 PM
I skimmed the thread, so maybe I missed it, but I herd there was sum price here? o3o
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Kieran on October 05, 2010, 08:31:56 PM
International prices haven't been announced yet, but the Japanese price is set at 25,000 yen (roughly 300 bucks).
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on October 06, 2010, 01:51:09 AM
It should be noted that 25,000 yen is the same price that the Wii launched at, but the yen has a stronger exchange rate now than it did back then. (in 2006, $1 got you almost 120 yen; today it gets you less than 90)



EDITS 10/29: To further the point, Nintendo's financial reports for this console generation tend to cite the weak yen as good news and strong yen as bad.  So, yeah, they don't seem to be in the practice of making overseas markets pay for (or discount from) fickle exchange rates.  I think a U.S. price tag of $250 is extremely likely.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Kieran on October 06, 2010, 02:01:50 AM
Then I imagine the price of the 3DS in America will wind up being $249.99, same as the Wii.

Nintendo does have a habit of keeping the same price point for their console releases in the US... everything from the NES to the Gamecube was $199.99, then they took it up to $249 for the Wii so they could actually turn a profit on the thing.  So $249 for the 3DS seems likely.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on October 26, 2010, 06:48:09 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8BWvgtqDUw[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0W68CPInmYc[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTvILc4Zygk[/youtube]
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Black Mage J on October 26, 2010, 06:59:42 PM
Oh my car. The 3DS looks very very shiny,or is it just covered in something? Even without the 3D on, the 3DS is a mighty fine feat to behold, but boy do I hope that Revelations won´t be too much like the first games. It doesen´t seem like that at least.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on October 29, 2010, 10:23:58 PM
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3azFRhOPsw&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

Nice how they tried to emulate the Wii shop channel look.

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At the Nintendo Conference, Iwata had said that the new shopping interface would offer a smoother overall experience and would also combine sales and promotions in one system. If this were Wii, it would be like combining Wii Shopping Channel and Everyone's Nintendo Channel in one. The result is that 3DS users will be able to enjoy window shopping, something that Nintendo feels will help support download sales.

As the demonstration video played during today's conference, Iwata noted some of the primary features. When you start up the shop, you can now select to visit "racks" corresponding to different themes. On each rack, you'll find software that fits the theme.

Select a game, and you'll be able to see details, view movies, download a demo and see the opinion of other players. Select to see the software details and, similar to the Everyone's Nintendo Channel on Wii, you'll get a description, play status and other info. You'll also be able to jump directly to the game's home page.

Outside of the various themed ranks, the shop will also have a section where games are listed in order of latest releases and most popular, and search functionality. Players will also be able to cast recommendation votes for games.

Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on October 30, 2010, 01:23:49 AM
Nintendo Channel built into the shop?  Awesome, says I!

(And yeah, axing the 4-second lag at every page turn would help immensely, too, but we'll see if that runs in practice the way it does in the demo.)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on December 08, 2010, 11:28:39 PM
Revelations & Mercenaries 3D scans (http://www.biohaze.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=5575&p=90990#p90988)

[spoiler]Revelations:

- 20% Complete
- Still TBA
- Takes place on a ship near Europe - the game's overall setting.
- Takes place Between RE4 and RE5 - (around 2005 - probably before Degeneration)
- Will feature other BSAA members
- More horror elements
- Much Emphasis will placed on fear and suspense
- Limited ammo, "true survival horror", more puzzles and exploration
- In terms of story, the game is being designed for new comers, but it wont be completely unrelated to the past titles.

Mercenaries:

Also new for the game is a character customization system. You'll be able to build up your character like in an RPG. Details are a bit sparse on this area, but it looks like you'll be able to set your character with skills, which will level up. You'll also be able to customize weapons.

Currently confirmed for playable appearance in the game are Chris Redfield, Claire Redfield, Jack Krauser and Hunk.

Chris's model is based off his Resident Evil 5 model. Claire, making her first Mercenaries appearance, serves as a contrasting character to Chris. While Chris is powerful, Claire uses her nimbleness to her advantage. She's shown in Famitsu's screens using a weapon with a laser site, which could mean that less experienced players will have an easier time using her.

Jack is good with archery and rocket launcher weapons, and also uses a knife for close combat. Kawata described him as a power character, with high attack and defensive strength. Hunk, while a soldier like Krauser, has a style that's more focused on balance rather than power.[/spoiler]

When i think about it, there should really be a RE thread.

EDIT: Clean screens of both games (http://kotaku.com/5709895/resident-evil-is-still-the-best+looking-thing-on-the-3ds/gallery/)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Align on December 08, 2010, 11:36:54 PM
Limited ammo didn't make me one bit more scared in RE4, it just frustrated me because I knew I was 100% screwed through no fault of my own if I didn't get a random drop real soon now.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on December 10, 2010, 03:53:27 AM
"Ammo" always bothers me in shooters.  Of course, I'm sure the rest of the world doesn't consider infinite twin rocket launchers the only way to play the N64 Goldeneye, but what can I say? 8D
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on December 18, 2010, 01:20:41 AM
http://www.gamrade.com/article-425-1.html

Cartridges will have a size between 1 GB and 8 GB. GIGA BYTE! :3
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on December 18, 2010, 01:31:13 AM
http://www.gamrade.com/article-425-1.html

Cartridges will have a size between 1 GB and 8 GB. GIGA BYTE! :3

8 gigs? Very awesome. Now I wish they waited for the 3DS to give us the Megaman Zero Collection. Bring on the arranged OST's!
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Dexter Dexter on December 18, 2010, 01:42:43 AM
Oh [tornado fang] yeah. 8B Now I have to change my pants, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on December 18, 2010, 02:34:28 AM
A nice surprise.  I was expecting more of a 2GB ballpark.  Nintendo has a history of choking devs when it comes to filesize; it's nice to see them ease up a little.
(Wii's flash memory makes me want to hurl)

8 gigs? Very awesome. Now I wish they waited for the 3DS to give us the Megaman Zero Collection. Bring on the arranged OST's!
Oh, if only...
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on December 18, 2010, 06:33:56 AM
A nice surprise.  I was expecting more of a 2GB ballpark.  Nintendo has a history of choking devs when it comes to filesize; it's nice to see them ease up a little.
(Wii's flash memory makes me want to hurl)
Oh, if only...

Whats worse about the Wii's Flash Mem is that it won't load stuff on the SD Card unless there is enough space on the Flash Memory, talk about a pointless extra storage.

And also, [tornado fang] yeah 8 Gigs, thats great [parasitic bomb] there.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on December 18, 2010, 07:00:32 AM
8 gigs eh?  That's a lot more than what it was before, but can someone give me example of how much 8 gigs can hold in terms of games I find it a bit hard to imagine it.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on December 18, 2010, 07:08:34 AM
It needs to copy the file to the Wii's flash memory before it actually runs. Loading from SD is just an automated version of copying files as you need them from an SD card. It's not pointless unless you somehow don't have enough space on the Wii's flash in the first place.

8 gigs eh?  That's a lot more than what it was before, but can someone give me example of how much 8 gigs can hold in terms of games I find it a bit hard to imagine it.
Storage-wise:
8GB is about the size of a Dual Layer DVD(PS2 and Wii).
With 8GB you could put MMXC or MMAC on the 3DS.
With 8GB you could port an N64 game and replace the soundtrack with streaming audio and even put in some FMVs.
With 8GB, you could put MML1 and 2 on the same cart.
With 8GB you could put Brawl on 3DS.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on December 18, 2010, 07:20:54 AM
Wow that's a lot.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VirusChris on December 18, 2010, 07:57:11 AM
Damn! That's amazing memory space! I'm so getting the 3DS... I was going too anyway even if they didn't mention the extra storage space on the card.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on December 18, 2010, 08:07:53 AM
I would hold off until a reliable source confirms it. Also, try to depend more on actual title announcements than system specs.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Reaperoid on December 18, 2010, 10:55:53 AM
Whats worse about the Wii's Flash Mem is that it won't load stuff on the SD Card unless there is enough space on the Flash Memory, talk about a pointless extra storage.
It needs to copy the file to the Wii's flash memory before it actually runs. Loading from SD is just an automated version of copying files as you need them from an SD card. It's not pointless unless you somehow don't have enough space on the Wii's flash in the first place.
But it is pointless, given that you'll pretty much run up to the flash's recommended read/write count even faster, not the mention the SD's.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on December 18, 2010, 01:09:05 PM
But it is pointless, given that you'll pretty much run up to the flash's recommended read/write count even faster, not the mention the SD's.

If you're that concerned, there are ways to load directly from the card.
If you refuse to use that method, deal with it. Wait for Wii 2, maybe they'll get it right then.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on December 29, 2010, 12:58:16 AM
(http://home.comcast.net/~Anguirus/objection.gif)
Hacking the console's channels (VC/WiiWare) requires more extensive (and otherwise obsolete) exploits than homebrew in general.  You can replace the SSB Brawl soundtrack with far less trouble than you can cheat in MegaMan 9, much less direct-load it from an SD card.

It needs to copy the file to the Wii's flash memory before it actually runs. Loading from SD is just an automated version of copying files as you need them from an SD card. It's not pointless unless you somehow don't have enough space on the Wii's flash in the first place.
The fact that it's "automated copying" is WHY it's pointless.  It mandates leaving empty space on your system and is responsible for excessive load times (waiting for the entire game to write to the Wii's flash).  Both are a nuisance and the latter is something Nintendo USED to consider unacceptable.

I'm not sure how well-founded the fears of shortening the flash's lifespan are, though, considering that we're talking about the same chunk of memory that handles your save data if you were playing a disc game instead.  Nor would I be terribly concerned about the SD card; even if you wear out flash memory to the point of no longer being able to be written, you can still read from it (ie: transfer to a new card).

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Storage-wise:
a Dual Layer DVD(PS2 and Wii).
And both X-Boxes.  The only gaming console to surpass the dual-layer DVD size (8.5GB) would be the PS3 (dual-layered Blu-Ray disc is 50GB).

It should be noted, however, that with flash memory the devs fork over more money for going for the larger sizes, so they will shoot for the smaller sizes if they can.  Since the range stated at Vix's site is 1GB-8GB, that most likely means devs will have 1GB, 2GB, 4GB, and 8GB cards to choose from.

Of course, even 2GB could do the above-mentioned MegaMan compilations. That in itself is larger than either the Gamecube's or PSP's discs.

Posted on: December 18, 2010, 10:24:31 AM
IGN alleges (http://ds.ign.com/articles/114/1142037p1.html) today that GameStop is taking 3DS pre-orders.  There is no such option on their website, so this is apparently an in-store-only thing.

You're forking over $50 for one heck of a question mark, seeings how we still don't know price, release date, or the actual launch lineup.  There's a list of four 3rd-party games you can reserve, none of which are among my personal "heavy hitters", though.

Posted on: December 27, 2010, 10:17:51 PM
Pre-order GET!  Odd that they're being this quiet about it, maybe they're trying to make sure that the "core" gamers get the jump start?

Whatever.  I still remember the Wii launch, not sleeping until 9:30 AM.  Not doing that again.
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Post by: Acid on December 29, 2010, 01:02:52 AM
You can preorder alreasy?

Oh well I gotta hold myself back still.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on December 29, 2010, 01:06:36 AM
Fun fact: The place-holder price in Gamestop's computers for the 3DS is $1000.

Suddenly I'm reminded of some IGN moron claiming that based on the $50 deposit, the final price will be twice that of the PS3, or some such nonsense.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on December 29, 2010, 01:56:34 AM
More details on the 3DS demo event (http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/12/28/3ds_demo_events_detailed/)

Can't wait for some live streaming (dunno where it'll be available, though). Less than 3 weeks away until the event.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on January 08, 2011, 03:32:49 AM
Anyone watching the event?

Oh, and 3-5 hours of battery life...DAMN
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on January 08, 2011, 03:42:43 AM
Yep.

Oh, and 3-5 hours of battery life...DAMN

wait.... WHAT?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on January 08, 2011, 03:52:45 AM
That's what the specs part of Nintendo's  site says. Hopefully that's for everything on and maxed =/
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on January 08, 2011, 03:55:47 AM
Anyone watching the event?

Oh, and 3-5 hours of battery life...DAMN
Are they serious?  Do I have to wait until they release a better one?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on January 08, 2011, 04:02:46 AM
I just started watching the event 10 or 15 minutes ago. Are/did they actually show anything meaningful instead of just going "OHHH SUGOI" at the games?

Are they serious?  Do I have to wait until they release a better one?
Nah, i'd suggest to get this one. I don't think the next model would improve much in terms of battery life anyway.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on January 08, 2011, 04:07:38 AM
Nah, i'd suggest to get this one. I don't think the next model would improve much in terms of battery life anyway.

Yeah I guess you're right, the DSi XL only added about 2-3 more hours to the battery but when the battery power is low it gets a glitch where you can't turn it off so maybe it would be a better idea.  Besides I do have the money for it now anyway.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on January 08, 2011, 04:10:11 AM
Well, to be fair supposedly their specs for the DSi at full everything is supposedly even lower and that lasts like 5 hours I think. What we really should worry about is if that's 3 hours for everything at max and 5 for the lowest settings, or if that's 3-5 hours for the max setting with lower settings getting even longer battery life.

Also, the MGS demonstration is in like 2 hours so we're stuck with this prerecorded Japanese comedians until then I guess >_>
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on January 08, 2011, 04:13:12 AM
Well, to be fair supposedly their specs for the DSi at full everything is supposedly even lower and that lasts like 5 hours I think. What we really should worry about is if that's 3 hours for everything at max and 5 for the lowest settings, or if that's 3-5 hours for the max setting with lower settings getting even longer battery life.
What do you mean by at full everything?  You mean like at the highest backlight setting and volume?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on January 08, 2011, 04:14:03 AM
Yeah, pretty much.
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Post by: Mirby on January 08, 2011, 04:19:40 AM
And with the 3DS, highest 3D setting too.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on January 08, 2011, 04:22:06 AM
And Wi-fi unless you can't turn that off...
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on January 08, 2011, 04:22:58 AM
Like you can on the DSi? Don't know why they'd REMOVE features...
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on January 08, 2011, 04:25:08 AM
Huh I guess I never really noticed because when I play games that I play constantly like Disgaea or Pokemon or on an overworld in an RPG I have it on silent especially in public in respect to the people next to me.  I honestly had no idea volume affected the battery that much.

My brother however apparently doesn't really do that, like when he was playing a Wii game and I was playing my DS at the same time he asked me why I don't play my games with the volume up and when I told him that it was okay around him.  Then just last week he was watching You Tube videos on my dad's laptop while I was watching TV without headphones...yeah that was so annoying since I could barely hear the TV and didn't want to wake up my dad.

And with the 3DS, highest 3D setting too.
That makes sense.

And Wi-fi unless you can't turn that off...
I definitly remember that with the few times I've used Wi-Fi.  Doesn't the 3DS download things even when it's off too?
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Post by: Solar on January 08, 2011, 04:26:20 AM
Huh I guess I never really noticed because when I play games that I play constantly like Disgaea or Pokemon or on an overworld in an RPG I have it on silent especially in public in respect to the people next to me. 

That's why you get headphones my girl.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on January 08, 2011, 04:27:52 AM
That's why you get headphones my girl.
I know but sometimes I just like to play the game in silence, plus my current headphones are a bit uncomfortable to wear for extended periods of time and I hate ear buds.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on January 08, 2011, 04:28:26 AM
Get new headphones?
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Post by: Sakura Leic on January 08, 2011, 04:30:55 AM
Get new headphones?
I will once the sound starts to get bad so it may be in a month or too.  Plus as I said before if it's a game I've played before sometimes I prefer silence since I've heard most of the BGMs a lot.  Besides even if I did use headphones it's hard to do in my school since people talk so loud.
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Post by: Solar on January 08, 2011, 04:32:35 AM
Oh yeah, and I forgot to mention the launch line up.



Nintendogs + Cats (3 versions)
Winning Eleven 3DSoccer
Super Street Fighter IV 3D Edition
Sengoku Musou Chronicle
Tobidasu! Puzzle Bobble 3D
Ridge Racer 3D
Combat of Giants: Dinosaurs 3D
Professor Layton and the Mask of Miracle


EDIT: Oh hey, a music event.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on January 08, 2011, 04:36:10 AM
Oh yeah, and I forgot to mention the launch line up.



Nintendogs + Cats (3 versions)
Winning Eleven 3DSoccer
Super Street Fighter IV 3D Edition
Sengoku Musou Chronicle
Tobidasu! Puzzle Bobble 3D
Ridge Racer 3D
Combat of Giants: Dinosaurs 3D
Professor Layton and the Mask of Miracle

Huh I wish they had a bit more, I mean suck at fighting games and I didn't get the other 2 Layton games.  Then again I'll be busy with Pokemon White so I guess it should entertain me until they make more games.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on January 08, 2011, 04:41:02 AM
Well, it's the 5th Layton so you'd need to catch up with more than the first 2 games XD Or just the 4th which hasn't been released yet here, you know, prequels and stuff.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on January 08, 2011, 04:44:13 AM
Well, it's the 5th Layton so you'd need to catch up with more than the first 2 games XD Or just the 4th which hasn't been released yet here, you know, prequels and stuff.
Exactly.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on January 08, 2011, 04:45:27 AM
DAMN this Mario music medley is so awesome.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on January 08, 2011, 04:47:23 AM
Ahem.

There's three Layton games in the first storyline.

You're making it sound like there's only 2.

Devil Flute is before Curious Village.

Diabolical Box and Unwound Future are after CV.

I take it MoM is between DF and CV?
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Post by: Solar on January 08, 2011, 07:18:27 AM
Ok, when Zelda's Lullaby started playing on that medley I seriously got goosebumps.

Posted on: January 07, 2011, 09:56:29 PM
FINALLY some actual 3DS gameplay. Kid Icarus to be more specific.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Kieran on January 08, 2011, 03:53:45 PM
Man, that launch lineup is terrible.  Looks like I need not stand in line on day one at least.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on January 08, 2011, 06:37:18 PM
The ones I think I'd want for sure are OoT and Dash, but it won't get me to buy it for 250 USD.
I'll wait until there is a Castlevania and Megaman(Not RnR or Dash) game.
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Post by: Align on January 08, 2011, 11:20:08 PM
I'll wait until I have a job.
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Post by: Black Mage J on January 08, 2011, 11:25:18 PM
Super Street Fighter IV 3D Edition
That's all that interests me, really
Call me closed minded, but this is all I truly need for a year or so.
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Post by: Dexter Dexter on January 08, 2011, 11:37:40 PM
3-5 hours of battery life? FORGET IT. I can wait.
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Post by: Police Girl on January 09, 2011, 04:10:18 AM
Oh yeah, and I forgot to mention the launch line up.



Nintendogs + Cats (3 versions)
Winning Eleven 3DSoccer
Super Street Fighter IV 3D Edition
Sengoku Musou Chronicle
Tobidasu! Puzzle Bobble 3D
Ridge Racer 3D
Combat of Giants: Dinosaurs 3D
Professor Layton and the Mask of Miracle


EDIT: Oh hey, a music event.

Ah, nothing tickles my fancy, Not even SF4 3D, I've not played any of the previous Layton games so thats out as well. :\

C'mon Nintendo, a chance to put something people expect from Nintendo launch titles out (A Mario game?) and all you give us is [tornado fang]ing Nintendogs (Ooh, its got cats now, big f'ing deal)? Way to show your love for those Casual gamers with dander allergies.
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Post by: Gaia on January 09, 2011, 04:37:32 AM
Since Pokemon: B/W's gonna have more features unlocked on this system, and BB:CSII along with DASH3 on the way, I'll wait for them.

I don't quite frankly give a [parasitic bomb] about Nintendogs, I have my own. Layton I miiiight look into, since my brother has Unwound Future (quite frankly, I might get Curious Village so that way we have two Layton games and will help with Mask of Miracle's plot).

This doesn't suprise me that the current Mario drought is affecting the 3DS at the slightest.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on January 09, 2011, 05:08:51 AM
C'mon Nintendo, a chance to put something people expect from Nintendo launch titles out (A Mario game?) and all you give us is [tornado fang]ing Nintendogs (Ooh, its got cats now, big f'ing deal)? Way to show your love for those Casual gamers with dander allergies.

Or they could be, you know, giving the 3rd parties time to enjoy some of that launch popularity so they won't complain and use "no fair we can't compete with Nintendo!" as an excuse when their titles do bad financially?

Zelda, Pilot Wings, and Steel Diver will be out not much longer after the release.  Besides, remember that that's the Japanese launch, things could change for ours.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on January 09, 2011, 05:27:13 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5GdDwripjE[/youtube]

actually shows a bit of KH3D and Mario Kart
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on January 09, 2011, 09:19:16 AM
Things that looks interesting:
Monkey Ball
Combat of Giants
Paper Mario
Ocarina of Time
Tetris
Gundam the 3D Battle
Metal Gear Solid
Pilot Wings
Mario Kart

All in all, a good lineup.
It's missing a main Mario title and a original Zelda title, but Zelda will take some time, and they were probably busy with Skyward Sword.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on January 09, 2011, 04:22:20 PM
It's sad to think that my main game of the 3DS launch may be a VC purchase, assuming Nintendo doesn't drag their feet getting that out.  SF4 looks interesting and all, but I'm really not that into core fighters.  And I can only get so excited about a new one when Trigger and Zero are calling to me from my Wii.

So, between Kid Icarus and two N64 ports, Nintendo couldn't get any of them ready for launch?  Shameful.  I hope the U.S. looks better.  I'm afraid that if I buy Nintendogs, my wife will be playing the 3DS more than me.

And with the 3DS, highest 3D setting too.
The "depth" of the 3D effect is merely changing angles, so I doubt that would affect battery (as opposed to light or volume which actually consume more power for a stronger effect).  Whether switching it off entirely would save battery life or not, I suppose that would depend on how the screen works.  I doubt the system would just switch off half its top-screen pixels, though; I'm guessing the parallax barrier just moves to its "off" position and either you're looking at an 800x240 2D screen, or one of the sets of 400 is blocked entirely.  Again, just guessing.

I definitly remember that with the few times I've used Wi-Fi.  Doesn't the 3DS download things even when it's off too?
Doesn't mean the option to switch off wireless communications (as the DSi does) won't be there, for people who want to opt-out of such features.  The Wii has that "always connected" thing going too, and you can shut it off in the menu.  You can even opt into the WiiConnect24 service while still leaving the "standby connection" (download stuff while system isn't running) off, if you want.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5GdDwripjE[/youtube]

actually shows a bit of KH3D and Mario Kart
...did I see a sidescrolling Rabbid at 1:22?

Or they could be, you know, giving the 3rd parties time to enjoy some of that launch popularity so they won't complain and use "no fair we can't compete with Nintendo!" as an excuse when their titles do bad financially?
If that's true then I don't want to hear a damn word out of those people after this.

Sega, Capcom, Ubisoft, and the like need to have a word with these people.  Most of the devs who can't compete, suck at competing for a good reason.  Just because the Nintendo audience doesn't buy shovelware or gratuitous gore shouldn't mean that the devs have nothing else to sell.

It's an utter lie to say that 3rd parties can't succeed on Nintendo.  But they look at the hardware sales numbers, expect an easy-street gold rush, and [sonic slicer] when they find out they have to actually put some effort into it.
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Post by: STM on January 09, 2011, 05:27:54 PM
Sega, Capcom and Ubisoft also have three things in common: character brands.

As much crap as the band gets, Sonic still is a top performer for Sega. Capcom has the Street Fighter folks and Mega Man, never mind Resident Evil, and Ubisoft has found nice niches with The Rabbids.

Not to bury each devs other titles, but brand recognition is a very powerful force. It's why people buy Coca-Cola more than Royal Crown.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Jericho on January 09, 2011, 08:11:39 PM
@Hypershell - Yea, Ubi stealth launched/announced a Rabbid 2D platformer, "Rabbids in Time" if I'm not mistaken through that video.

On a side note, as much as I find the battery life issues brought to light on the 3DS worrisome, I also find it interesting that the loudest complainers on other sites were the same people calling the 3DS underpowered for using the tech clocked at the speed it was (2 x 266MHz cores) versus its max limits (600MHz each). I'd say not chasing after the iPhone specs was a wise choice given the battery life issues here for a yet undisclosed usage.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on January 09, 2011, 08:34:35 PM
Stuff I want from that video
-SSF4
-Blazblue CS2
-Rabbids Time Travel
-Kingdom Hearts 3D
-Layton 5
-Bomberman
-Tales of the Abyss
-MGS3D
-Zelda OoT 3D
-Starfox 64 3D
-Tetris (hey it's Tetris =P)
-One Piece
-Gundam 3D looks interesting
-Kid Icarus Uprising
-Mario Kart
-PAPER MARIO

Speaking of Paper Mario
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVMW3TlCPGw[/youtube]





...did I see a sidescrolling Rabbid at 1:22?

Yes, yes you did. It's in a way what the Wii version should've been after Go Home, but oh well. I can't complain about more Rabbids.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Acid on January 09, 2011, 09:04:13 PM
Speaking of Paper Mario
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVMW3TlCPGw[/youtube]

YESSSSSSSSSS

THIS IS WHAT THE DOCTOR PRESCRIBED.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Jericho on January 09, 2011, 09:05:19 PM
[tornado fang] you guys who get to watch the Paper Mario trailer, I can't see [parasitic bomb] thanks to my net wigging out on me. :(
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on January 09, 2011, 09:08:19 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AW2DruO8nE[/youtube]

God damn that looks beautiful.
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Post by: VixyNyan on January 10, 2011, 02:33:21 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AW2DruO8nE

God damn that looks beautiful.

0v0
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on January 11, 2011, 04:07:26 AM
Star Fox indeed looks gorgeous.  I'll have to nab that one.

Rabbids may be the first time I favor the portable version over the console.  I just kinda feel like I have enough minigame compilations.

Sega, Capcom and Ubisoft also have three things in common: character brands.

As much crap as the band gets, Sonic still is a top performer for Sega. Capcom has the Street Fighter folks and Mega Man, never mind Resident Evil, and Ubisoft has found nice niches with The Rabbids.

Not to bury each devs other titles, but brand recognition is a very powerful force. It's why people buy Coca-Cola more than Royal Crown.
There's no denying that, for sure.  And I don't think there's anything wrong with brand name recognition, either.  That's not ALL they've been doing, though.

Rabbids were a new IP when the Wii launched (albeit attached to Rayman, but the public perception even in the early days was that the Rabbids one-upped him), so I think Ubi deserves props for that.  Sega, though they did not develop it, did publish The Conduit.  And even though Sonic is an established brand, they put considerably more weight behind him on the Wii than they did during the previous generation, presentation-wise.  As for Cappy, they may have struck out with Zack and Wiki, but they also created a crossover fighter so orgasmically awesome that nobody cared about their dance partner being some near-unknown-in-this-hemisphere anime company.  Then there's Monster Hunter, which isn't quite as established here as it was in Japan.  Besides the original (2004), Tri is the only other home-console entry to make it to the U.S. and Europe.

If you want to talk someone who made it on the brand recognition alone, I'd point you towards The Force Unleashed.  The Wii version is generally respected as a decent, even if maybe not must-have, 3rd party title.  Once I finally got to play it, I found the gameplay to be...tolerable, and the visuals are positively HIDEOUS, even by GCN launch standards, much less today.  When a gamer is fed that as an example of a brand-name 3rd party title, I sure as hell wouldn't blame them for sticking with Mario.  Or Sonic.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Acid on January 19, 2011, 04:14:55 PM
Livestream confirmed:

250 bucks (249.99 to be precise)

Posted on: 19-01-2011, 14:40:43
Oh yeah:

US release: March 27th
EU release: March 25th
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Post by: nobody on January 19, 2011, 04:17:02 PM
It's nice that Europe gets everything first these days, compared to before when it used to be the other way around.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VirusChris on January 19, 2011, 04:27:10 PM
$250 for the Nintendo 3DS? I might be able to get it then, but I'm wondering what colors will it be out in?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on January 19, 2011, 04:57:26 PM
http://www.gamespot.com/shows/today-on-the-spot/
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on January 19, 2011, 07:27:55 PM
Ok, I'm not even interested in Dead or Alive but this is pretty awesome.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpQRuIoL4Hs&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
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Post by: Acid on January 19, 2011, 07:58:55 PM
I find it hilarious how they don't really care about Ridley.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Cobalt on January 19, 2011, 08:42:06 PM
Samus confirmed for unlockable.

This being Dead or Alive, probably Zero-suit Samus.
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Post by: Protoman Blues on January 19, 2011, 09:01:51 PM
I've been waiting for a new Pilotwings for sooooooooooooo long.
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Post by: Sakura Leic on January 19, 2011, 10:13:51 PM
Well that's good news I can't wait and it's a good thing it's about $250 like I thought since I'm practically loaded right now.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: STM on January 19, 2011, 10:44:00 PM
I can't say I'm impressed with the titles that are set for release from launch to E3. Nothing really stands out...

Maybe I should just cancel my preorder until better stuff shows up.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on January 20, 2011, 12:34:02 AM
You can now preorder on Amazon in case anyone didn't know.

Not sure if i should preorder just yet though, the lineup's a bit weak.

Posted on: January 19, 2011, 05:34:08 PM
Glorious Zelda gameplay (http://www.gamekyo.com/blognews_article255963.html)
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Post by: Black Mage J on January 20, 2011, 01:08:48 AM
Yay, jiggle-tastic DOA Samus.
250 fun bucks? For a seven hour battery? I think I'll wait until there's some kind of better 3DS, and when I can afford a game to go along with it.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on January 20, 2011, 02:06:42 AM
http://www.gamespot.com/shows/today-on-the-spot/

"We've been instructed to shoot from 5 feet away in 3D mode"
*Camera goes 5 feet away*

Either the camera sucks, or Nintendo actually prohibited them from taking focused shots of the 3D mode. I don't know any modern camera that would have trouble zooming into the 3DS from 5 feet.

Also, I'm happy to see the Gyroscope being put to some nice uses that take advantage of the fact it's a portable. Steel Diver and ARUKADO come to mind. ARUKADO does it very well due to the reference point in the real world. Maybe there can be a game that let's you set up multiple reference points around you.

Edit: I just watched the Zelda gameplay. Awesome. I also hope the pedometer gets you rupees. Because, walking around like an idiot is one of the ways to get rupees in game, why not out of game?
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Post by: Hypershell on January 20, 2011, 03:42:21 AM
I knew the $300 tag was a load of crap.  So hooray for that.

Very, VERY disappointed that they can't even confirm Kid Icarus as arriving before E3.  What the crap, Nintendo?  Nevertheless, I highly anticipate the time-traveling Rabbids.

Ok, I'm not even interested in Dead or Alive but this is pretty awesome.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpQRuIoL4Hs&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
Man, that makes Brawl's Metroid levels look like a pile of puke.  I hadn't considered DoA before, but I may not be able to resist a game that has Ridley raking the walls with my enemy's face.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on January 20, 2011, 03:52:48 AM
The only thing I REALLY don't like so far is that we have to pay $400+ for the thing here >__>

Oh well, good thing I never buy consoles from official retailers here.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on January 20, 2011, 04:48:35 AM
The only thing I REALLY don't like so far is that we have to pay $400+ for the thing here >__>

Oh well, good thing I never buy consoles from official retailers here.

I assume "here" is the UK or EU region?
Also, notice you guess have the earliest release. I think that's so they can get a head start on padding their pockets.
Or to reduce the amount of EU/UK people self-justifying importing because, "It's taking too long and it costs too much."
Now it just costs too much.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on January 20, 2011, 04:50:58 AM
Courtesy of IGN:
"Friend codes are now specific to each 3DS console, not each game. Exchanging friend codes will allow you to check your friend's list at any time to see who's online and what they're playing."

(http://mysite.verizon.net/Serpentara/brilliant.jpg)

Congratulations, Nintendo, your network planners have grown brain stems.

eShop for 3DS, DSi, GB, and GBC games is as we all knew in the works, but will not be ready for launch.  Not surprising to us early Wii adopters. :|

Face toys, Mii software, and a couple of those augmented-reality cards from the earlier trailers will be included.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on January 20, 2011, 04:57:51 AM
I assume "here" is the UK or EU region?

Hahaha, don't I wish. I'm right below you pal.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on January 20, 2011, 05:53:31 AM
Mexico?
I don't think anybody, except criminals have 400USD to spend on a games machine.
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Post by: Align on January 20, 2011, 12:16:14 PM
Preordering it would cost me ~$420.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on January 20, 2011, 01:59:33 PM
$130 USD price cut is yummylicious~ <3
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Blackhook on January 20, 2011, 02:09:53 PM
*looks into his wallet to find...almost nothing*
...one day
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: CephiYumi on January 20, 2011, 02:23:31 PM
I don't think anybody, except criminals have 400USD to spend on a games machine.

I am not a criminal
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: The Drunken Dishwasher on January 20, 2011, 02:46:25 PM
I am not a criminal.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_l-6RCXI72sY/TJo1rrKsFZI/AAAAAAAAAB8/GKxOEHcT7A4/s1600/4_richard-nixon2.jpg)
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Post by: CephiYumi on January 20, 2011, 02:59:16 PM
Actually that's "I am not a crook" but close enough I guess
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Post by: Flame on January 20, 2011, 05:57:55 PM
"Friend codes are now specific to each 3DS console, not each game. Exchanging friend codes will allow you to check your friend's list at any time to see who's online and what they're playing."
'Bout [tornado fang]ing time.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on January 20, 2011, 06:12:45 PM
<Your Friend> Is Playing: Ero Mahjong no Boken 3D
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on January 23, 2011, 03:30:19 PM
'Bout [tornado fang]ing time.
The press at all times finding something to complain about (before specs: it's underpowered; after specs: battery life is too short; I can't be the only one who sees a conflict of interest there), I found it interesting that a few editors made negative remarks about the return of codes in any form, even in spite of the evolution to console-based.  They wanted the system to be account-based, identified by username, rather than console-based, identified by code.

And you know what?  I'm GLAD it isn't.  Identifying by username means that if anyone else in the entire freaking world took yours, you're out of luck without attaching some random string of numbers to the end anyway.  As a late PSP adopter I punched in about a dozen different Ultraman and Godzilla references into PSN before finally succumbing to that.

As far as replacing/upgrading units goes, Nintendo already had the foresight to include Wi-Fi ID transfers with the original DS, and they've already stated that there will be DSiWare transfers from DSi/XL to the 3DS.  So there should be no problem there.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on January 23, 2011, 06:52:43 PM
Most people here know how, but just in case...

Nintendo 3DS - Preview Event
(http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/bin/LQv2y1CdHR6qXz0rHC_HzUIwJJKJNudT/ENwTJwrsfTQOv8_mJzNFRqNr7LomMyIA.jpg) (http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/bin/yk5j7sfwREWuNfReUEmJlqKQSopTWuI1/pb_Rt_GXlN5_KFtHLDApwjBtShpz_rpW.mp4)

Nintendo 3DS - First Reactions
(http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/bin/LV_0B79Jd55w7ynJn-jaZoMw19iEvTl-/An2iXqEa3tyBDk-Wpjk9siWGv9shqlgH.jpg) (http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/bin/Ld2CR4lyJEpaDPhVCsRQP13H25uGGNWb/1rp8VgbOkBSZAxoLqR7tiHifp5CLoJF6.mp4)

Virtual Tour
(http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/bin/BmXNcWr152mgx3rX3VvpiX7HwnBEgKHg/43rL87YQ_0Q88irXXIdmxYCFuk8nvMRG.jpg) (http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/bin/oe-WF1sN986GYpob_FaEC5FyseKNh5UG/_szF8pPYRNDQk9rNguAcGnaXcHKQ1pNg.mp4)

Nintendo 3DS Game Line-Up
(http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/bin/Pfkkxm5lxVVVHVIiNfUfUXMdm_C9Y8_s/d-ifYH_rG3iF9McqMhmhCT3em6ZsEVkZ.jpg) (http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/bin/J7Q4YIUw5D526aAdimpKfhUUqBCg2-F5/TniF3haEfgQxXQcePLq_YojZlhqYvFQi.mp4)

ASPHALT 3D
(http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/bin/XNbI5fkBJZ29SN04FI6-_wb-WBym46DJ/IpeB5V2l1QmHxUrUF-ZypTnRWd_gA7H0.jpg) (http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/bin/r2V-S9Z27mb7dXoPzYgqEEzrtt1CVV6H/7faa0q0BKAgU4ujmfVv73xVP6oj4bDct.mp4)

BUST-A-MOVE UNIVERSE
(http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/bin/BbtGBFlkpQPCr0ZnrfZB1OCpBA4lS0YU/9kpzQJji-FRHDh4SB2CZz01DtX96Bdlp.jpg) (http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/bin/FoHGcP6hOqpPUzwKxIQjiURW6S70Esox/7ZBjLx-rIlYjijuNIYniB513UJVu_LJl.mp4)

DEAD OR ALIVE Dimensions
(http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/bin/93fVMBRHMC5qdnTOf-ALWrp7Bzcmz6wV/rPjAqRssgJoNxwye6l4-3bNbjG4XBloz.jpg) (http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/bin/wNz9LdB-m-PNVbF9RN_iDukXwzK-Qvrj/FuYigbQceLPikzWaIxKg2nKnpF7rIXks.mp4)

LEGO Star Wars III: The Clone Wars
(http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/bin/zIOIz7U2AA-oLnfXUr2BNH7rK0v_Tjz5/OxD0GiBGukKVkRIXa8sId93fXFtU69gV.jpg) (http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/bin/l0eMElKWgdVdpm44LZkkvlzv2Ilbv_q5/6AzNMIUpHxIqw-Lr6VE953GlThcUq9dB.mp4)

Madden NFL Football
(http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/bin/TGR7toge12EGgKNRxXPJ6Fr9--BnRC7j/peZhxBhUe5O8QMeVKpudL9BvaO9jELv2.jpg) (http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/bin/Da5J_iAJxC5tQlvAc_Ico5HH5ZYNiMzk/sKGnrIhdvFrfC11tbQUNRoRnuddH3_Dv.mp4)

Pro Evolution Soccer 2011 3D
(http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/bin/eHbwOhfxE86J5KkGEc4mjs1M9kvsL--7/r4VZvZQqPXJm6bD6LAeuxFHx5YuFkuXs.jpg) (http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/bin/rhb2J5L6XpTc3auphs9AhcnPCBjqHU6i/ZE8kastlzyT_HJ0C2XdMS6wDfbeQHmz0.mp4)

Resident Evil: The Mercenaries 3D
(http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/bin/HNongiZvnv_PE32_PWSbqfcZEFzyTAWd/vm89wPTXb4Z9AL71LIGZjfjqoO_Ka7qy.jpg) (http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/bin/aiFdqVE1oKPIyl1bOQK32H7rVrxdKwDf/XgOMnhEKFpUCE3q-WsxDOY2cjCeu53dQ.mp4)

Samurai Warriors Chronicles
(http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/bin/Gfc6SJo08ybGyD4dHayEgvJfHmOThzNU/-4J3aB9K4LDkYgeNvrSsDAORyqdtTjIS.jpg) (http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/bin/V0_s6zSA6K-_L_cgbVfziL-u7tRIuu-q/WOYgvFHhjKuD3dNN0wR2TxwbTcHz_w96.mp4)

Super Monkey Ball 3D
(http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/bin/baxEAoZShAbsvxgsFev4RuySPgDtjnY5/3K88FvjZIBlIPoidcDdWW10LFaZIlxq4.jpg) (http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/bin/ktHistSJejAS_VNSHOuVfLT6tRywUlBT/2EPIekgAMp8gzM1s2l5pDRGGKVmofevf.mp4)

Super Street Fighter IV 3D Edition
(http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/bin/6amxfazIxmIa3WjGm0glA5XmGCHDQjxH/Bbbu-Y8kiCcqyaGGDeNU1NGr90Ujuj22.jpg) (http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/bin/vDDlX6PuYFiUknqJeh38DaPn-ZtBLtRt/nGM-u2lRQmfAZEroUvlz5TkYphTAfMlV.mp4)

Interview with Yoshinori Ono, Capcom
(http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/bin/oNRn4JU-EYYm3YY16ST6m0b48bNOCw2B/YF-SIHbCKtJvX8GsVPt-FJM5p8maaTQX.jpg) (http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/bin/KaYOro7anbfo5Kwu7LzuvomSy-qUyPav/SRvV1f2xL3j-xFbHHpoX78HtLItT9FeG.mp4)

Interview with Yosuke Hayashi, Team Ninja
(http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/bin/Q664CODpxpv-jgArEt7EY4fQbEDI5dWH/iLSgqGoMhGOUjySbKJ3FvtXwUauSGE-b.jpg) (http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/bin/e2fIQPOfPiPpn8dZcXwXP2Sh-jhQC9jC/fedP3hoHQFI6mZpPi--Poe-eLfXqe_fU.mp4)

Interview with Peter Moore,  EA Sports
(http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/bin/wZMbBoR7KlABpbFPYJfYwGfegrlnubkO/JoG9nlGADWJ5TY6NCMvHoF5nwlZTt_Yi.jpg) (http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/bin/epjI264wJt0os_56ZwslDQsrs0DwNhrN/w3QhKUQCnlQSVvocP3ZFPv09lI0SqApY.mp4)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on January 23, 2011, 10:33:01 PM
You may want to just link Nintendo's video page (http://www.nintendo.com/3ds/videos/#/Nintendo_3DS_-_First_Reactions), for those with more temperamental computers/browsers.  Google Chrome for some reason didn't like the links you posted.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Jericho on January 23, 2011, 10:53:24 PM
You may want to just link Nintendo's video page (http://www.nintendo.com/3ds/videos/#/Nintendo_3DS_-_First_Reactions), for those with more temperamental computers/browsers.  Google Chrome for some reason didn't like the links you posted.

Off topic, but Chrome just loves fluctuating between being the best damn browser ever and being all WTF with everyone lately.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on January 24, 2011, 01:45:36 AM
You may want to just link Nintendo's video page (http://www.nintendo.com/3ds/videos/#/Nintendo_3DS_-_First_Reactions), for those with more temperamental computers/browsers.  Google Chrome for some reason didn't like the links you posted.

Are you clicking them?

You're supposed to save them. If you want to watch them online, go to the website Nintendo has set up.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Reaperoid on February 24, 2011, 12:41:00 PM
(http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/1218/img6922w.jpg)
(http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/766/img0701s.jpg)

...and more?! (http://gbatemp.net/t280308-3ds-retail-version-with-games-arrived-hong-kong?st=15&p=3474739&#entry3474739)
Augmented Reality cards are on the next page.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on February 24, 2011, 02:12:11 PM
I hope to get mine as early as tomorrow or next week. ^^;;
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Reaperoid on February 24, 2011, 02:21:01 PM
Personally, I don't see much that I'll use right off the bat; I don't have the eyes for 3D, plus there's no real amazing games to get locally (I'm not a big fan of region locked imports either).

And I still have to get a DSi and DSiWare I want to heave into sometime.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on February 25, 2011, 12:06:08 AM
The 3DS can download DSiWare, Rep, and of course the top slider will let you turn the 3D effect off if it bugs your eyes.

If I were you I'd skip the DSi altogether at this point.  It does absolutely nothing, and plays absolutely nothing, that the 3DS will not (besides homebrew, most likely).  At least if you have a DS phat/Lite, you can strut your Slot 2 stuff.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Reaperoid on February 25, 2011, 07:33:42 AM
Ah. Wasn't advised on the DSiWare bit, goooood.
DSi was on the bottom of the list anyway, but by the time I get a 3DS there'll be something cool, i reckon. I'll never get rid of my DSL though, with devices in both slots. :P
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on February 25, 2011, 05:46:38 PM
I like my DSi, but as soon as I get the chance I'm trading it in for a 3DS because the thing is pretty much garbage in terms of build Quality, the Shoulder buttons broke twice, The camera suddenly doesn't work and trying to open it crashes the system. and last of all, the internet on it is terrible. Has almost no memory and the slightest amount of images makes it "Cannot display the page as intended."
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on February 26, 2011, 12:41:41 AM
I'm a bit late in forwarding this, but IGN posted (http://ds.ign.com/articles/115/1151257p1.html) the actual North America launch-day lineup.

So we knew Nintendo wasn't exactly bringing their A-game, but Pilotwings Resort making launch is good news.  I'm bummed that we have to wait for DoA Dimensions, though.  Bad enough we're lacking a proper "Core" Nintendo game, now we don't even get the Ridley-raking-the-walls-with-my-enemy's-face cameo until two months or so later.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on February 26, 2011, 04:02:31 AM
Get Your 3DS (PDF) Manuals Here (http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/02/26/3ds_manuals/)

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3dsmanual/2132441653_view.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3dsmanual/2132441655_view.jpg)

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3dsmanual/2132441656_view.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3dsmanual/2132441657_view.jpg)

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3dsmanual/2132441658_view.jpg)(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3dsmanual/2132441654_view.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3dsmanual/2132441659_view.jpg)(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3dsmanual/2132441660_view.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3dsmanual/2132441661_view.jpg)

>0<
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on February 26, 2011, 04:03:28 AM
relevant to the thread
(http://www.true-gaming.net/tgupload/images2/bY92FP621X6Y2bR4KupEWCy6AaKWmK2X.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on March 01, 2011, 03:09:11 AM
Drawn at work~
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0011.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0012.jpg)

Drawn at home~
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0001.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0002.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0003.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0004.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0005.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0006.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0007.jpg)

You draw these things by placing those Augmented Reality Cards on a table, then go to Graffiti mode and draw whatever you want, and include icons like hearts and stars if you want. Then you control your creation with the Analog Pad and jump and somersault with A button, and take pictures with L or R button. They are like paper figures and they will bounce around. The Graffiti AR Card in 3DS doesn't have a fill tool, so I have to add color with pencils. ^^;;



And this is what games looks like in DS Mode.

Non-stretched mode (hold Start+Select before starting the game).
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/ModelX-DS.png)

Default stretched mode
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/ModelX-3DS.png)

Posted on: March 01, 2011, 02:53:00
Oh, another thing. The Activity Log keeps tracks of every single software, application and games you have played since the first time you start using your 3DS. It even keeps track on normal DS games, how long time you played them, the longest session you have done for the game, and how many times you played the games, first time you played the game on your 3DS and the recent date you played the game.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on March 01, 2011, 04:00:58 AM
I'm jealous, Vix.  Ah well, March 27th will get here soon enough...

Still debating what launch titles I'm going to pick up; currently leaning towards Pilotwings and SSF4 (even though I'm not much of a fighting gamer, I played some SF2 back in the day).
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on March 01, 2011, 08:47:27 PM
Took more screenies~ ^^

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0017.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0018.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0019.jpg)

And here's the .mpo stereo images converted to gif.

[spoiler=2 images formed into 1 GIF]
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0001.gif)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0002.gif)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0003.gif)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0004.gif)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0005.gif)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0006.gif)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0007.gif)

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0017.gif)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0018.gif)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0019.gif)[/spoiler]

And PNGs with 3D effect added. ^^;

[spoiler=dem colors~ >u<]
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0001.png)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0002.png)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0003.png)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0004.png)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0005.png)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0006.png)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0007.png)

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0017.png)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0018.png)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0019.png)[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on March 01, 2011, 11:34:45 PM
http://nintendo3dsblog.com/video-3ds-game-cases-cannot-stand-vertically
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Kieran on March 02, 2011, 07:32:29 PM
Meh, who cares?  You'll be putting them on a shelf with other DS games anyway, presumably.

Now, on another note, who's betting on a 3DS XL at some point?  I'm definitely hoping for one, personally...
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on March 02, 2011, 08:02:25 PM
Meh, who cares?  You'll be putting them on a shelf with other DS games anyway, presumably.

Now, on another note, who's betting on a 3DS XL at some point?  I'm definitely hoping for one, personally...

Maybe I should have specified the video was a joke.

PS: I hear the reason the 3DS comes with a dock is that nothing associated with the 3DS, including the 3DS, stands up by itself.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on March 02, 2011, 11:28:33 PM
http://gdc2011.nintendo.com/

The GDC keynote with Satoru Iwata~

And...

http://www.planet3ds.net/news/3d-classics-game-gear-and-turbografx-16-games-coming-to-nintendo-3ds/

O: OMG~!!! <3 <3

First the "3D Classics" (that were previewed on E3 last year), and now Game Gear and TG16? Want~! ^oo^ :cookie:

And this new Mario 3DS game~

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/9e116ae19d1e3d4191eec280e1ece08e.jpg)

Tanooki tail~ ^^

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/t4vbj9.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VirusChris on March 02, 2011, 11:43:55 PM
That's awesome! I'm so glad I'm getting the 3DS now... I have $65.61 left to have my pre-order copy fully paid off and ready for pick-up!
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Acid on March 03, 2011, 12:37:16 AM
Yes, I was there, in the livestream.

Will this be SMG3? Or a 3DS remake of SMB3?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on March 03, 2011, 12:39:46 AM
It might be a completely new Mario, but with Super Mario Bros. 3 elements that we all know and love~ <3 (SMB3 Part 2 basically)

Like the different suits (Tanooki, Hammer Bros, Frog, etc), storing items in a bag to use later, Mushroom Houses, Overworld maps, and so on. ^^;
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on March 03, 2011, 12:54:12 AM
Careful, Vix.  At "Hammer Bros", you stepped into PB's schtick of bringing up ideas too damn orgasmically awesome to imagine.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on March 03, 2011, 01:40:10 AM
More 3DS images from me~
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0027.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0051.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0052.jpg)

3DS PB... it's purple season for him.
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0028.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0029.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0030.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0031.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0032.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0033.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0034.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0035.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0036.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0037.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0038.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0039.jpg)

3DS Nyan~ :cookie:
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0040.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0041.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0042.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0043.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0044.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0045.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0046.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0047.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0048.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0049.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0050.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0063.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0064.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0065.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0066.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0067.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0068.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0069.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0070.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0071.jpg)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0072.jpg)

[spoiler=GIF animations]More 3DS images from me~
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0027.gif
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0051.gif
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0052.gif

3DS PB... it's purple season for him.
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0028.gif
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0029.gif
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0030.gif
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0031.gif
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0032.gif
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0033.gif
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0034.gif
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0035.gif
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0036.gif
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0037.gif
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0038.gif
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0039.gif

3DS Nyan~ :cookie:
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0040.gif
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0041.gif
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0042.gif
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0043.gif
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0044.gif
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0045.gif
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0046.gif
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0047.gif
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0048.gif
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0049.gif
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0050.gif
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0063.gif
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0064.gif
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0065.gif
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0066.gif
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0067.gif
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0068.gif
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0069.gif
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0070.gif
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0071.gif
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0072.gif[/spoiler]

[spoiler=PNG stereo images]More 3DS images from me~
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0027.png
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0051.png
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0052.png

3DS PB... it's purple season for him.
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0028.png
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0029.png
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0030.png
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0031.png
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0032.png
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0033.png
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0034.png
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0035.png
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0036.png
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0037.png
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0038.png
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0039.png

3DS Nyan~ :cookie:
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0040.png
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0041.png
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0042.png
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0043.png
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0044.png
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0045.png
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0046.png
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0047.png
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0048.png
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0049.png
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0050.png
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0063.png
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0064.png
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0065.png
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0066.png
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/HNI_0067.png
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Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on March 03, 2011, 01:49:40 AM
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Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on March 03, 2011, 03:29:30 AM
brb saving these to my 3DS~ XD 8D
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 03, 2011, 04:50:50 AM
3DPB is all kinds of Three Dimensionally Sexy! XD

And yeah, today's GDC conference info made me happy!
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on March 03, 2011, 05:30:00 AM
I didn't pay much attention, what did we get?

What I know:
-Skyward Sword trailer
-OoT 3D release date
-Super Mario Bros 3D with racoon tail in the logo announcement
-Some sort of tech demo of Mario Kart Wii in 3D

What am I missing?

Also, nice pics Vixy. I haven't been paying much attention, how does that AR thing work?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 03, 2011, 05:48:51 AM
I didn't pay much attention, what did we get?

What I know:
-Skyward Sword trailer
-OoT 3D release date
-Super Mario Bros 3D with racoon tail in the logo announcement
-Some sort of tech demo of Mario Kart Wii in 3D

What am I missing?

Portable NetFlix as well! XD
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on March 03, 2011, 05:51:09 AM
Which I'll never get to use, I'm sure >__>
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on March 03, 2011, 06:26:59 AM
With PS3, 3DS, and PC support, I wonder if Netflix will ever start doing stereoscopic movies for Watch Now.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on March 03, 2011, 11:48:22 PM
If they get 3D How To Train Your Dragon, I'm in.

Quote
-OoT 3D release date
Missed that.  All I'd caught was the new screens (which are GORGEOUS).
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on March 04, 2011, 12:51:45 AM
But they already announced 3D How to Train Your Dragon for the system didn't they?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on March 04, 2011, 03:23:17 AM
Speaking of dragons~ Guess who I drew~

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Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 04, 2011, 03:28:48 AM
MM2 Dragon  8)

AWE. SOME.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on March 04, 2011, 03:52:27 AM
But they already announced 3D How to Train Your Dragon for the system didn't they?

Not for Netflix, specifically.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: AquaTeamV3 on March 04, 2011, 02:10:54 PM
I hope the 3DS gets some kind of attachment that lets you output to your TV; maybe they could make it so that you could choose to output only one screen or both.  It'd be nice for recording purposes.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on March 04, 2011, 03:20:41 PM
It's Nintendo. If they didn't do it for the DS and DSi, they won't do it for the 3DS. ;^;

Someone has to either get the dev capture kit or open up the 3DS and modify it on the inside.

Another way is to attach a webcam that supports a high resolution and 30 fps or higher, and then place it in front of the touch screen, using either rubber band, see-through tape that doesn't leave any marks on the system, or a combination of both. The lens of the camera can then be adjusted to be as sharp as you want it. When I live-streamed Shantae on DSiWare, I did just that. (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=30D577354FCF9050) ^^;
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Align on March 04, 2011, 04:13:04 PM
Speaking of dragons~ Guess who I drew~

http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds/101NIN03_HNI_0012.gif and others

Hmm... Is it possible to draw a 3D object proper with the given tools? I'm thinking something like how when developers make textures, they use bumpmapping and stuff, with a separate image overlaying the first telling the program where the pixels should stand out from the 2D plane of the original.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on March 04, 2011, 05:17:52 PM
Is it possible to draw a 3D object proper with the given tools?

Technically no. x.x

You draw a flat 2D object. Everything is drawn on the touch screen.
There is also a round ball option you can add so the flat object turns into a 3D ball that bounce around (if you fill the whole screen with color).

You have 3 size pencils, 3 size erasers, 18 colors, 10 different stamps with sound effects and 6 special effects (fire, flowers, and other things).
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Align on March 05, 2011, 01:26:24 AM
Aw...

Posted on: 2011-03-04, 16:33:07
It's got racoon Mario because it's Super Mario 3DS.

oh nintendo
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on March 05, 2011, 01:27:22 AM
I hope the 3DS gets some kind of attachment that lets you output to your TV; maybe they could make it so that you could choose to output only one screen or both.  It'd be nice for recording purposes.

Quote from: Press release from Nintendo
This summer, Nintendo 3DS will incorporate Netflix functionality. Netflix members who have an unlimited plan starting at $7.99 a month can access a broadband wireless Internet connection and instantly stream movies and TV shows directly to their Nintendo 3DS systems, similar to how the service is used on the Wii console. This means people can start watching a movie via Netflix on their Wii systems at home and then pick up the same movie later from a different location using their Nintendo 3DS systems.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on March 05, 2011, 01:29:49 AM
That's great for Netflix movies.

But doesn't answer any questions about TV-Out.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on March 05, 2011, 03:31:58 AM
Forgive me if I'm late on saying this, I'm pretty sure it's a brand new Mario game. Miyamoto himself said on a recent episode of Iwata Asks that he was working on a new Super Mario Bros. game for 3DS. Therefore, the screens seen there are most likely from that new game.

Source (http://gbatemp.net/t277385-miyamoto-super-mario-bros-game-in-development-for-3ds), if anyone's curious.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Reaperoid on March 05, 2011, 09:48:27 AM
Miyamoto himself said on a recent episode of Iwata Asks that he was working on a new Super Mario Bros. game for 3DS.
new Super Mario Brothers, or new NEW Super Mario Brothers? :P
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on March 05, 2011, 03:40:59 PM
Vixy has me unable to think of anything but a 3D Hammer Suit since that last page.  God, I hope so... >w<

But they already announced 3D How to Train Your Dragon for the system didn't they?
Announced?  No.  It was one of their demos to show the 3D-movie capabilities back when the system was first unveiled.  Netflix is the only movie provider that was "announced" for the 3DS, and they haven't confirmed if they'll be providing 3D movies or not.

Speaking of dragons~ Guess who I drew~
0v0  Mech Dragon!  Awesome, Vix!
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on March 06, 2011, 04:57:18 AM
You can add my Mii to your 3DS if you use the QR Code feature in the Mii Maker and aim the 3D cameras at the code.

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I dunno if it will work on English systems tho. x.x
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 06, 2011, 05:07:31 AM
Can you make Mii's on the 3DiiS?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on March 06, 2011, 05:28:15 AM
Definitely, there's even a whole function that automatically makes a Mii out of a photo.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 06, 2011, 05:31:26 AM
Does it still have the same catchy Mii Music Menu?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Night on March 06, 2011, 06:01:37 PM
You can add my Mii to your 3DS if you use the QR Code feature in the Mii Maker and aim the 3D cameras at the code.

(click)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-mii-vixynyan-qrcode.jpg) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-mii-vixynyan-qrcode.jpg)

I dunno if it will work on English systems tho. x.x
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Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on March 07, 2011, 03:29:07 AM
Night: judging by that logo on the previous page, I'm guessing a new Super Mario Bros game.

But it could be renamed to include the uppercase New.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Kieran on March 07, 2011, 02:47:22 PM
No, I'm pretty sure it's not going to be NSMB considering the screenshots show a Mario 64-style gameplay field.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on March 11, 2011, 06:01:33 PM
Now you're playing with (double battery) power! (http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/09/nyko-solves-your-3ds-battery-concerns-with-power-pak/) (Cubed3 (http://www.cubed3.com/news/15282))

(http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/9693/nykopowerpack20110309.jpg)

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on March 11, 2011, 06:45:46 PM
Now you're playing with (double battery) power! (http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/09/nyko-solves-your-3ds-battery-concerns-with-power-pak/) (Cubed3 (http://www.cubed3.com/news/15282))

(http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/9693/nykopowerpack20110309.jpg)

Thoughts?

I love it!

Would have been nice if they designed it to fit in the Nintendo Dock.
I don't like the contacts and it seems it doesn't lock into place.

The probably could have saved some production cost forming it to fit in the 3DS Dock and just using a cord.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 11, 2011, 11:55:04 PM
They have the 3DS here at PAX East, with OoT & Kid Icarus demos. My FIRST stop tomorrow.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on March 12, 2011, 12:23:08 AM
They have the 3DS here at PAX East, with OoT & Kid Icarus demos. My FIRST stop tomorrow.

Cool. Let us know how it goes! (ESPECIALLY Kid Icarus)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on March 12, 2011, 12:32:37 AM
They have the 3DS here, with OoT & Kid Icarus demos.

Same here, but on Tuesday and someplace else~ >U<

I can't wait to play both of them nya~ <3
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on March 12, 2011, 01:18:23 AM
Was able to play around a bit with it the other day at a local event. Analog feels a bit weird at first, but you get used to it. Graphics look smooth. 3D effect feels honestly like a gimmick, I'll be playing it without it. I'm looking forward to see what they do with the graphics engine, really.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on March 12, 2011, 01:26:19 AM
Was able to play around a bit with it the other day at a local event. Analog feels a bit weird at first, but you get used to it. Graphics look smooth. 3D effect feels honestly like a gimmick, I'll be playing it without it. I'm looking forward to see what they do with the graphics engine, really.

I wish i was able to go to one of these events. Maybe i shou--

SUPERBAT?! Where have you BEEN? And there's no way in hell that anyone is calling you by your current full name, this time. 8D
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on March 12, 2011, 01:38:32 AM
I wish i was able to go to one of these events. Maybe i shou--

SUPERBAT?! Where have you BEEN? And there's no way in hell that anyone is calling you by your current full name, this time. 8D
Oh daaaarling, I've been here, I've been there, I've been everywhere.

Anyway, planning on getting a 3DS, not at launch, seeing as the lineup doesn't interest me in the slight bit, but I'm getting the earliest model possible, to facilitate Homebrew. I can't wait to see how it works. 3D Homebrew? God damn the thought makes me moist.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Kieran on March 12, 2011, 04:04:05 AM
Still waiting for a 3DS XL.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on March 12, 2011, 05:10:36 PM
Now you're playing with (double battery) power! (http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/09/nyko-solves-your-3ds-battery-concerns-with-power-pak/) (Cubed3 (http://www.cubed3.com/news/15282))

(http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/9693/nykopowerpack20110309.jpg)

Thoughts?
Nyko's been good with well-thought-out peripheral concepts, IMHO, but I wonder.  $50 extra for double battery and a dock that actually fits it? :\  Unfortunate.  I'm going to see how the 3DS's battery flies with me before investing, that's for sure.  I got used to my PSP, but then I don't take it out of the house often due to lacking a case.



Minor point, but I'm glad somebody actually took a moment to address 3DS backwards compatibility controls, from engadget:
"...if you prefer you can now use the analog stick in classic DS games -- without the use of its analogue sensitivity, naturally."

Many thanks.  As a matter of comfort I prefer to keep my thumbs high for primary control.  Though, using an analogue stick as a "joystick" for a game whose primary drawback is lack of analogue control (Super Mario 64 DS), will probably feel a bit weird.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on March 12, 2011, 07:08:03 PM
Nyko's been good with well-thought-out peripheral concepts, IMHO, but I wonder.  $50 extra for double battery and a dock that actually fits it? :\  Unfortunate.  I'm going to see how the 3DS's battery flies with me before investing, that's for sure.  I got used to my PSP, but then I don't take it out of the house often due to lacking a case.



Minor point, but I'm glad somebody actually took a moment to address 3DS backwards compatibility controls, from engadget:
"...if you prefer you can now use the analog stick in classic DS games -- without the use of its analogue sensitivity, naturally."

Many thanks.  As a matter of comfort I prefer to keep my thumbs high for primary control.  Though, using an analogue stick as a "joystick" for a game whose primary drawback is lack of analogue control (Super Mario 64 DS), will probably feel a bit weird.

If the battery hooks directly to the 3DS's battery slot thingy, then I assume the 3DS's charging port would work to charge it. The Voltage isn't any different, just the mAh
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on March 12, 2011, 10:22:34 PM
If the battery hooks directly to the 3DS's battery slot thingy, then I assume the 3DS's charging port would work to charge it. The Voltage isn't any different, just the mAh
As long as the bulk doesn't make it uncomfortable to play, I'll be getting it. Which honestly seems like it doesn't, and as the battery seems like it'll be an issue with the 3DS, it'll be for the best.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on March 12, 2011, 11:23:59 PM
And the batt itself is only 20USD.
That's a pretty good price.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on March 12, 2011, 11:34:21 PM
Yeah, and not to mention that if you REALLY wanted that battery life you could carry both batteries for like 9-10 hours total. Sure since you'd need a screwdriver it wouldn't be THAT convenient, but the option is there.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on March 12, 2011, 11:59:47 PM
Yeah, and not to mention that if you REALLY wanted that battery life you could carry both batteries for like 9-10 hours total. Sure since you'd need a screwdriver it wouldn't be THAT convenient, but the option is there.

You could pick up some low profile thumb screws.

My concern with multiple batteries would be the life of the batteries given they would be charged at odd intervals and one might be neglected for months or days.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on March 13, 2011, 12:17:45 AM
Carrying a screwdriver around just to switch batteries? XD That's just like that online logic of having two iPads so you can multitask. =P http://i.imgur.com/S4wlS.jpg

Find a workaround, people. Come on. Nintendo's releasing a crappy battery, but there should probably be third-party improvements.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on March 13, 2011, 12:46:15 AM
Carrying a screwdriver around just to switch batteries? XD

Haha, I did say it's not that covenient (hell, make that not convenient at all and only for those completely crazy about battery life XD). If batteries were more like the PSP's (and Nintendo should start doing that) carrying an extra battery in your backpack for travels certainly wouldn't be a bad idea though.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Reaperoid on March 13, 2011, 01:17:39 AM
Not to say that the DSL didn't have a convenient third-party approach to batteries; there was one somewhere that actually came with a proper hinge-lock cover to replace the regular one.

Seeing that the whole back plate of the 3DS needs to be removed, it might be possible to see a replacement backplate with battery door?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on March 13, 2011, 01:19:17 AM
Not to say that the DSL didn't have a convenient third-party approach to batteries; there was one somewhere that actually came with a proper hinge-lock cover to replace the regular one.

Seeing that the whole back plate of the 3DS needs to be removed, it might be possible to see a replacement backplate with battery door?

As in, replace the whole back with a bracket and latch of its own?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Reaperoid on March 13, 2011, 01:24:24 AM
God no. Just a door for accessing the battery, as part of the plate.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on March 13, 2011, 01:51:11 AM
You mean cut a hole in the existing backing?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on March 13, 2011, 02:03:03 AM
Meaning, a custom, maybe third-party 3DS cover which can make the battery more accessible. Hell, I'd buy it.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on March 13, 2011, 02:28:12 AM
Something that, itself, screws into the 3DS's screw holes, but provides a mechanism for a spring latch cover?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on March 13, 2011, 02:41:26 AM
Yep.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 13, 2011, 01:50:54 PM
So I got my hands on the 3DS yesterday, and I gotta say, it's pretty awesome. I really really like the adjustable 3D slider. As for the games, Pilotwings is fantastic, as is OoT. However, Kid Icarus is troublesome as of now. My fear of the controls from the video were justified with the ground missions. It handles horribly. The flying missions are pretty cool, but unless there are customizable controls of some kind, I cannot play it.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on March 13, 2011, 02:20:04 PM
So I got my hands on the 3DS yesterday, and I gotta say, it's pretty awesome. I really really like the adjustable 3D slider. As for the games, Pilotwings is fantastic, as is OoT. However, Kid Icarus is troublesome as of now. My fear of the controls from the video were justified with the ground missions. It handles horribly. The flying missions are pretty cool, but unless there are customizable controls of some kind, I cannot play it.
Yeah, I won't be able to play it either. This is what I say about dual analogs being very important in things like this. Either that, or controls like Panzer Dragoon.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on March 13, 2011, 07:22:43 PM
However, Kid Icarus is troublesome as of now. My fear of the controls from the video were justified with the ground missions. It handles horribly. The flying missions are pretty cool, but unless there are customizable controls of some kind, I cannot play it.

Damn, that's a shame to hear. That was my most anticipated first party 3DS title. Well, there's still plenty of time to tweak the controls and whatnot.

Yeah, I won't be able to play it either. This is what I say about dual analogs being very important in things like this. Either that, or controls like Panzer Dragoon.

The thing is, i find many people who say that the touch screen can remedy the lack of the second analog quite well, if not better. Though at the same time, i can't imagine myself playing the entire game, only to wear my wrist out using the touch screen (happened when playing PH). This is a tricky situation.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on March 13, 2011, 09:32:12 PM
Damn, that's a shame to hear. That was my most anticipated first party 3DS title. Well, there's still plenty of time to tweak the controls and whatnot.

The thing is, i find many people who say that the touch screen can remedy the lack of the second analog quite well, if not better. Though at the same time, i can't imagine myself playing the entire game, only to wear my wrist out using the touch screen (happened when playing PH). This is a tricky situation.
I couldn't play Metroid Prime Hunters because of it. See, in the right situation, you can actually aim better with a stylus, but it is the complete and total lack of comfort to one's hand that gets to me.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on March 13, 2011, 10:08:34 PM
Damn, that's a shame to hear. That was my most anticipated first party 3DS title. Well, there's still plenty of time to tweak the controls and whatnot.

Because you weren't playing it. It's a showy game. It looks cool, but playing it is another story. You'd probably be better of with Starfox. Similar gameplay, but it doesn't pretend it's not a shooter on rails.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on March 13, 2011, 10:53:03 PM
Kid Icarus isn't an N64 game.  Not that I won't love playing SF64 again, I will, but I am still playing it again.

The thing is, i find many people who say that the touch screen can remedy the lack of the second analog quite well, if not better. Though at the same time, i can't imagine myself playing the entire game, only to wear my wrist out using the touch screen (happened when playing PH). This is a tricky situation.
Everything I've heard says that Prime Hunters is the best litmus test as to how one will handle Kid Icarus's controls.  Hunters wasn't my favorite setup, but it worked, and it admittedly beat the hell out of attempting an all-button setup (glad they provided the option, if only to ween yourself off at your own pace).

Basically, if you hated Hunters' controls, I wouldn't expect to get used to Kid Icarus.  But if you worked with it, then I don't think you'll have a problem.

If the battery hooks directly to the 3DS's battery slot thingy, then I assume the 3DS's charging port would work to charge it. The Voltage isn't any different, just the mAh
Yeah, but...the dock is cooler. >U<

For the purpose of practicality, touche.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on March 13, 2011, 11:00:27 PM
Funnily enough, Kid Icarus is actually a game which would work quite well with a single analog movement+aim. It's not an FPS, and it's a game in which you keep moving forward, requiring no strafing. I don't know why Nintendo chose against it. I'm still hoping they'll put an option in the final game, but it's unlikely.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 14, 2011, 08:04:29 AM
I couldn't play Metroid Prime Hunters because of it. See, in the right situation, you can actually aim better with a stylus, but it is the complete and total lack of comfort to one's hand that gets to me.

Aiming is really not the issue. The flying parts are fine once you get used to it. It's the ground movement that's really atrocious. You literally turn your character around by flicking the stylus on the touch screen. I could potentially see it working if I just use my thumb on the touch screen instead of the stylus, but I didn't have the option to do that at the demo. I was also not alone in the discomfort level found while playing Kid Icarus, as many many other PAX goers felt the same way. I mean, my hand hurt after playing the demo, so I can't imagine anyone with bigger hands being able to handle it. Overall though, the excitement level for this game has drastically dropped.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on March 14, 2011, 10:26:13 AM
Aiming is really not the issue. The flying parts are fine once you get used to it. It's the ground movement that's really atrocious. You literally turn your character around by flicking the stylus on the touch screen. I could potentially see it working if I just use my thumb on the touch screen instead of the stylus, but I didn't have the option to do that at the demo. I was also not alone in the discomfort level found while playing Kid Icarus, as many many other PAX goers felt the same way. I mean, my hand hurt after playing the demo, so I can't imagine anyone with bigger hands being able to handle it. Overall though, the excitement level for this game has drastically dropped.
I know, I played it. I have no idea why they needed strafing for those parts.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Fxeni on March 14, 2011, 04:58:21 PM
Mmyeah, I was a bit worried about the ground controls. Every time I've seen someone playing it, they've had a hard time in those segments. They should probably consider locking the camera in those segments so that people don't have to struggle with it.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on March 15, 2011, 10:09:05 PM
I played these demos:

Dead or Alive: Dimensions - Loved it~ It was fast-paced and beautiful. I beat most opponents perfectly using fist combos and a mix of different kick moves with Kasumi~ I might get it! <3 ^w^

Resident Evil: Mercenaries 3D - I picked Claire, tested the controls (Shoot with Y when holding R, walking by holding B, and so on). It was just like the Mercenaries mode in the past games. I liked it, but I am also waiting for Revelations~ <3

Pilotwings Resort - Love it love it!!! >U< I played Mission Mode, picked the Rocket Belt and Air Plane style games. Got 54/60 points on the Rocket Belt, popping two balloons. And I got a perfect 140/140 score on the Air Plane game, flying through rings. I think the normal speed of the plane was at 47km/h, but when doing a specific thing (flying through specific rings or something else), you will fly over 100km/h and beat the mission faster. I will get this game~ :cookie:

The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D - The waiting line for this game was TOO long, so I didn't have as much time to play it as the first-comers did, but I still got a good taste of the smooth motion of the game itself (frame rate, etc) and the 3D effect. I picked the Deku Tree dungeon demo (since we have already seen Kokiri Forest before). The dungeon itself was exactly the same as the original N64 version, but it was still as cool as it ever was~ The button settings i remembered was these: Y button for the Deku Sticks, X button for the Slingshot, B for the sword slashes, A button to roll forward and R button to guard with the shield. I liked how I could aim the Slingshot with the gyrosensor in the 3DS, by moving the whole system around, but regular aim controls still exist. The 3D effect is very good in this game. You can see the depth for most objects and Nintendo did a great work. The text bubble sticks at the front of the screen, while Link, enemies and backgrounds move a bit more back to show more depth. This is definitely a must-have game, even if you played it before~ :cookie: >U<

Saw the 3DS trailers for Paper Mario, Kario Mart 3DS and Star Fox 64 3D, displayed on actual 3DS units. You can really see the 3D effect on those, the player objects really sticks out on the screen while the background falls back and shows more depth. Interesting. In Paper Mario, there was a few new elements showing up, like items and enemies, and you can see all the paper-flat objects in different depth levels which was cool. Mario and Luigi were driving on the Mario Kart race courses that was already announced on the old trailer from the internet. You can also see the 3D effect when Fox McCloud fights bosses, or enemies fly behind him. I want all of these games. ^^

And the highlight, the reason why I even wanted a 3DS in the first place.....!!!

Kid Icarus: Uprising - What did I think about it? It's GRRRREAT!!! 0v0 It's just as awesome as I hoped it would be~ I picked the Claws weapon and the Easy mission demo (Hard is embed on a youtube clip in the Kid Icarus topic (http://forum.rockmanpm.com/index.php?topic=4837.msg302403#msg302403)). The controls are like this, you attack or shoot things with the L button, you move around with the circle (analog) pad and yes, like PB said, you aim and rotate Pit around with the touch screen. When you aim, you will see the cursor on the top screen, and you will move it around with the touch screen and that way, you have to kinda guess where the exact spot for the target is when you try to hit other enemies, but you will get used to it real quick. As long as you keep your eyes on the top screen and pointing the touch pen on the touch screen and kinda guess where the aim is, it will feel good later on and you won't miss a lot either. On the ground, you rotate Pit sideways (slowly) with the touch screen too (think Resident Evil style rotating, but using the touch screen instead), and I guess people would be a little put off by that, but you might get used to it after a while tho. The movements with the circle pad are simple to learn. You can move (or walk) forward, backwards, strafing and all that stuff, but if you double-tap the circle pad in any direction, you will either run or do a dodge roll/somersault. The L button attacks works just like Sin & Punishment. If enemies are far away, you shoot them, if they are very close, you will slice them with the weapon you are currently using. While you are doing the double-tap movements AND attacking at the same time, you will perform some cool special attacks that hits many enemies on-screen, depending on your range, or deal lots of damage to bosses. Speaking of bosses, this demo's boss was "Bark like a dog" Twinbellows. That fight was fun too. ^w^ I got about 13000+ points on the demo, I almost perfected the whole mission (got hit only one or two times at the most) and this is definitely one of the games I want in my 3DS collection~ >u<

This summer will be so cool nya~ <3
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on March 15, 2011, 10:32:02 PM
http://www.siliconera.com/2011/03/15/marvelous-are-working-on-a-game-with-2d-artwork-for-nintendo-3ds/

Waaaaaaaaaaaant D:
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 15, 2011, 10:39:07 PM
Kid Icarus: Uprising

Hmmmmm well I only had a limited time with the demo, and like I said, if I can use my thumb for the touch screen instead of the stylus, it could work. We'll see though. I'm glad someone liked it!  8)

http://www.siliconera.com/2011/03/15/marvelous-are-working-on-a-game-with-2d-artwork-for-nintendo-3ds/

Waaaaaaaaaaaant D:

Very nice indeed!  8D
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Jericho on March 15, 2011, 10:39:55 PM
http://www.siliconera.com/2011/03/15/marvelous-are-working-on-a-game-with-2d-artwork-for-nintendo-3ds/

Waaaaaaaaaaaant D:

I hope it's a straight platformer/action platformer.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on March 15, 2011, 11:10:43 PM
Hmmmmm well I only had a limited time with the demo, and like I said, if I can use my thumb for the touch screen instead of the stylus, it could work. We'll see though. I'm glad someone liked it!  8)

Very nice indeed!  8D
There's always a way to use your thumb, like there was in Metroid Prime: Hunters and Mario 64 DS. I actually found using the stylus was better when playing those games, but still massively uncomfortable.

Nintendo 3DS Lite with dual analogs please. ;_;


Also, I think the first game I truly want from this is DOA. I always found it was the one fighting franchise which was really easy to learn and have fun with friends. Man, I miss the times on DOA Ultimate. I might just go play it.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: The Drunken Dishwasher on March 15, 2011, 11:43:29 PM
http://www.siliconera.com/2011/03/15/marvelous-are-working-on-a-game-with-2d-artwork-for-nintendo-3ds/

Waaaaaaaaaaaant D:

AAAAND another game in the list of 3DS games I want~

Also, I think the first game I truly want from this is DOA. I always found it was the one fighting franchise which was really easy to learn and have fun with friends. Man, I miss the times on DOA Ultimate. I might just go play it.

Yeah i'm considering purchasing that too, I remember enjoying DoA2 on the dreamcast quite alot, especially w/ the varied amount of costumes for the characters hehehe.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 15, 2011, 11:46:44 PM
........I just realized........Sega COULD make a Virtual On: Oratorio Tangram 3D game for the 3DS.....

 0v0
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on March 16, 2011, 01:07:30 AM
........I just realized........Sega COULD make a Virtual On: Oratorio Tangram 3D game for the 3DS.....

 0v0
Only if they had a huge add-on for the 3DS which plugged in the bottom and was two huge joysticks.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 16, 2011, 01:10:24 AM
Heh, I've played it Dreamcast style on both the Dreamcast & 360. One more time won't hurt! XD
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on March 16, 2011, 01:14:42 AM
I got waaaaaay too used to the arcade. To the point of being bothered by the 360 controls.

It is the kind of game you just can't do without two sticks.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 16, 2011, 01:17:57 AM
I got waaaaaay too used to the arcade. To the point of being bothered by the 360 controls.

It is the kind of game you just can't do without two sticks.

I've mastered both control schemes!  8D
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on March 16, 2011, 02:21:58 AM
I've mastered both control schemes!  8D
Yeah, but it's like playing an FPS with a mouse, then going to play it with a right analog stick.

Bothers plenty.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on March 16, 2011, 03:08:01 AM
Also, I think the first game I truly want from this is DOA. I always found it was the one fighting franchise which was really easy to learn and have fun with friends. Man, I miss the times on DOA Ultimate. I might just go play it.
Hm, interesting recommendation.  I'm not really familiar with DOA, but it looks pretty and has Ridley raking the walls with my enemy's face, so I had intended to pick it up.

That was, however, when I thought it'd be a launch title. -_- These days I'm leaning towards Pilotwings and SSF4 to kick things off, and not being much of a fan of traditional fighters, it's a tough question as to whether or not I really want both SSF4 and DOA.

Argh, decisions, decisions...

http://www.siliconera.com/2011/03/15/marvelous-are-working-on-a-game-with-2d-artwork-for-nintendo-3ds/

Waaaaaaaaaaaant D:
Awesome.  Muramasa was a-freaking-mazing, so it'll be great to see what they come up with on the 3DS.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on March 16, 2011, 03:13:12 AM
By the way, I was able to get 11 Miis on the Mii Plaza with Street Pass, so that means all regions of the 3DS can connect with each other and share data and friend codes without any problems. ^^
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on March 16, 2011, 03:56:07 AM
Hm, interesting recommendation.  I'm not really familiar with DOA, but it looks pretty and has Ridley raking the walls with my enemy's face, so I had intended to pick it up.

That was, however, when I thought it'd be a launch title. -_- These days I'm leaning towards Pilotwings and SSF4 to kick things off, and not being much of a fan of traditional fighters, it's a tough question as to whether or not I really want both SSF4 and DOA.
DOA (at least the first 3) are games in which it's quite easy to get ahold of a character's combos, because they work like a regular single player game's gameplay, ala Devil May Cry or Ninja Gaiden. It's kind of a faster-paced Tekken, in which you can combine big combos and keep jabbing. They're based on logic rather than learning combinations. It's the best fighter for any beginner, because you have fun no matter what. Not only that, it's really fun to throw players into the interactive sceneries.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on March 17, 2011, 01:24:11 AM
It does sound a bit more up my alley than Cappy's fighters, which I can at least play, well, semi-competently. -u-'  Guess I'll have to take a look at what other games are coming out May-ish and try to work out a plan.

By the way, I was able to get 11 Miis on the Mii Plaza with Street Pass, so that means all regions of the 3DS can connect with each other and share data and friend codes without any problems. ^^
I'd have been disappointed otherwise.  Despite regional lockout in games, Nintendo's been pretty good about worldwide network connectivity.  Thanks for the confirmation.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on March 17, 2011, 01:26:26 AM
Nintendo's been pretty good about worldwide network connections
...seriously? That might be the one thing I'd point out that the company's VERY lacking and behind others.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on March 17, 2011, 01:38:10 AM
Despite regional lockout in games,

Speaking of that, Pokemon BW (well, the western versions) show us that DSi games, maybe 3DS games too, don't need to be region locked, so lets hope that Nintendo actually thinks about it and doesn't use it in their games at least.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on March 18, 2011, 01:16:11 AM
...seriously? That might be the one thing I'd point out that the company's VERY lacking and behind others.
I think you misunderstood me, because in most ways I will tell you that Nintendo's online tactics are shot to hell.  What I meant is that they're good about keeping it worldwide, as in, not region-locked (the one area where Capcom faltered in Monster Hunter Tri).  I'd have been very surprised if Japanese, EU, and US 3DS Miis were unable to mingle with each other.

Speaking of that, Pokemon BW (well, the western versions) show us that DSi games, maybe 3DS games too, don't need to be region locked, so lets hope that Nintendo actually thinks about it and doesn't use it in their games at least.
Black/White is DSi-enhanced, not DSi-exclusive.  To region-lock it would be to punish users for playing the game on the more advanced hardware (the original/Lite could play Black/White of any region, regardless).  So it'd have been rather senseless, not that region-locking makes a lot of sense to me to begin with.  It's just bullshit market control to make fiscal reports look better, with absolutely no practical benefit; not to mention it legitimizes the console hacking that Nintendo hates so much.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on March 18, 2011, 01:25:54 AM
I think you misunderstood me, because in most ways I will tell you that Nintendo's online tactics are shot to hell.  What I meant is that they're good about keeping it worldwide, as in, not region-locked (the one area where Capcom faltered in Monster Hunter Tri).  I'd have been very surprised if Japanese, EU, and US 3DS Miis were unable to mingle with each other.
Ah, my bad then. And they probably will, since the Wii's Mingle option had no region lock either.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on March 18, 2011, 01:34:27 AM
Not to mention that Brawlers and Karters on the Wii could "mingle" with each other worldwide too.
And that's how we were all able to record videos of our replays. ^^
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on March 18, 2011, 01:35:57 AM
Yeah, too bad brawlers had one of the worst online services I've EVER seen in a game, and karters, although having the basis of a decent online, without identities, made most of it irrelevant.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on March 18, 2011, 02:14:06 AM
Black/White is DSi-enhanced, not DSi-exclusive.  To region-lock it would be to punish users for playing the game on the more advanced hardware (the original/Lite could play Black/White of any region, regardless).  So it'd have been rather senseless, not that region-locking makes a lot of sense to me to begin with.  It's just bullshit market control to make fiscal reports look better, with absolutely no practical benefit; not to mention it legitimizes the console hacking that Nintendo hates so much.

Every other DSi enhanced game including its JP version? Region locked on DSi. NA/EU Black and White? Plays on any DSi/3DS.

That's what I mean.

Yeah, too bad brawlers had one of the worst online services I've EVER seen in a game,

Disappointment of the forever =/
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on March 18, 2011, 02:53:32 AM
Touche.  I hadn't researched the previous DSi-enhanced games, hence I didn't reference them.  Regardless, I still think it's worth noting that whatever rationale was behind forgoing the region-lock on Black/White might not (and probably won't, knowing corporate mentality and all) carry over into many other titles.

Yeah, too bad brawlers had one of the worst online services I've EVER seen in a game, and karters, although having the basis of a decent online, without identities, made most of it irrelevant.
TvC was MUCH worse than Brawl, service-wise.  You don't have to be a tournament-level fighter to realize that lag and Shoryuken command inputs don't mix.  Plus it's a LOT harder to excuse in one-on-one connections.  In my experience Brawl usually holds up well until the fourth person enters.

And I don't have a problem with lacking identity in karts, I'm content to simply be that random Yoshi/Daisy player with an obscure Saturday Night Live name reference.  I have a problem with the grand item farking, which is not a complaint one would expect an all-Bob-omb Brawler to make, but in kart every damn time you turn around someone hit a POW block/Blooper/Lightning/any of the two-dozen ways to make you drop your items.  There's a ludicrously excessive amount of "hit everyone" and "disarm" going on, which I sincerely hope they cut down on for Kart 3DS.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on March 18, 2011, 03:07:11 AM
TvC was MUCH worse than Brawl, service-wise.  You don't have to be a tournament-level fighter to realize that lag and Shoryuken command inputs don't mix.  Plus it's a LOT harder to excuse in one-on-one connections.  In my experience Brawl usually holds up well until the fourth person enters.

And I don't have a problem with lacking identity in karts, I'm content to simply be that random Yoshi/Daisy player with an obscure Saturday Night Live name reference.  I have a problem with the grand item farking, which is not a complaint one would expect an all-Bob-omb Brawler to make, but in kart every damn time you turn around someone hit a POW block/Blooper/Lightning/any of the two-dozen ways to make you drop your items.  There's a ludicrously excessive amount of "hit everyone" and "disarm" going on, which I sincerely hope they cut down on for Kart 3DS.
Thing is, TvsC was essencially attempting to be a serious fighter, while Brawl is a fun party game that people [sonic slicer] about not being able to play seriously. I'm fine with fighter game lag on Brawl. All fighting games have online lag. But the game itself was coded online SO BADLY, it was probably one of the very worst online modes I have ever seen in any game whatsoever.

And in terms of Mario Kart, you and other people may not know this, but it was the first Wii game that got to the point of having... well, a mediocre online system which every single XBox/360/PS3 game had so far. The normal required options, the modes, and the necessary speed to play. At this time, anyone else used to regular online gameplay wasn't pleasantly surprised. I just went "Really? Oh, that's cool, I guess". Identities are really important in online games these days. Having a profile, having an actual way to see what kind of games you play, to be able to play with that person again...

I hate the fact that Nintendo's multiplayer is basically ChatRoulette.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on March 18, 2011, 03:12:01 AM
TvC was MUCH worse than Brawl, service-wise.  You don't have to be a tournament-level fighter to realize that lag and Shoryuken command inputs don't mix.  Plus it's a LOT harder to excuse in one-on-one connections.  In my experience Brawl usually holds up well until the fourth person enters.


Seriously? Every single one of my experiences made TvC look like GGPO in comparison to Brawl =/
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 18, 2011, 07:48:14 AM
I have a problem with the grand item farking, which is not a complaint one would expect an all-Bob-omb Brawler to make, but in kart every damn time you turn around someone hit a POW block/Blooper/Lightning/any of the two-dozen ways to make you drop your items.  There's a ludicrously excessive amount of "hit everyone" and "disarm" going on, which I sincerely hope they cut down on for Kart 3DS.

Oh we won't even get into the whole "Why every Mario Kart after 64 is worse!" debate.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Fxeni on March 18, 2011, 08:16:27 AM
Oh we won't even get into the whole "Why every Mario Kart after 64 is worse!" debate.
Debate? Doesn't that require people who don't agree with this sentiment? XD
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 18, 2011, 08:20:16 AM
Debate? Doesn't that require people who don't agree with this sentiment? XD

Heh, valid point.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on March 18, 2011, 11:21:04 AM
Crash Team Racing and Sonic & Sega All-Star Racing are both the superior MASTER RACE KARTERS. =P
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Kieran on March 18, 2011, 02:17:02 PM
Wait.

Hang on a second.

Flash, did I honestly see you say you wanted a "3DS Lite" on the last page?  The thing's already smaller than every other DS that's ever been made.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on March 18, 2011, 03:46:09 PM
Wait.

Hang on a second.

Flash, did I honestly see you say you wanted a "3DS Lite" on the last page?  The thing's already smaller than every other DS that's ever been made.
I used it as a euphemism for "next model after the standard 3DS".

I just want a god damn dual analog stick DS.


ALSO: http://ca.kotaku.com/5783437/how-bad-is-the-nintendo-3ds-depth-zone-let-us-show-you

This is one of the reasons why I'll be playing it with the 3D off.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on March 18, 2011, 09:53:09 PM
Ah Nintendo, you sly little bastards. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50LUXgjnx9o&feature=player_embedded) 8D
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on March 18, 2011, 10:05:56 PM
Hahahahahaha, that's awesome.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on March 19, 2011, 01:20:09 AM
Holding the tradition that every DS system must have some tie to breasts, I see.  XD

Thing is, TvsC was essencially attempting to be a serious fighter, while Brawl is a fun party game that people [sonic slicer] about not being able to play seriously.
Bitching about a game not being what it's not even trying to be is not something that makes a lot of sense to me.  Same applies to offline Brawl discussions.

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And in terms of Mario Kart, you and other people may not know this, but it was the first Wii game that got to the point of having... well, a mediocre online system which every single XBox/360/PS3 game had so far. The normal required options, the modes, and the necessary speed to play. At this time, anyone else used to regular online gameplay wasn't pleasantly surprised. I just went "Really? Oh, that's cool, I guess". Identities are really important in online games these days. Having a profile, having an actual way to see what kind of games you play, to be able to play with that person again...
See, I wasn't clear on what you meant by "identity".  The whole game-specific-code-crap, not knowing what your friends are playing, and all?  There's a club for complaining about that.  It's called Everybody, they meet at the bar.  The 3DS is taking steps to rectify that, though IMHO there is absolutely no reason they shouldn't have had their act together with the Wii.

Communication ain't Nintendo's forte, either.  I've been as frustrated by that as anyone else and I haven't even played an X-Box Live game.  You don't have to run XBL comparisons to see the problem, by any means.  The simple feeling of being cut off from your fellow players when online versus sitting down for a good local multiplayer session is pretty self-evident.  But those are complaints against basically the entire Nintendo WFC service, not of any particular game.  In that sense, Brawl is superior to Kart in that you at least get some personality in your customizable taunts.  But it is just that, customization, not communication.

Ah well, one more reason I like Monster Hunter Tri.

Seriously? Every single one of my experiences made TvC look like GGPO in comparison to Brawl =/
Not me, man.  I don't very often see Brawl screw up in a one-on-one (I'm not saying never, I'm just saying 2-3 players is usually stable).  And even when Brawl does turn south, the gameplay style in itself tolerates lag better than a traditional fighter does.

Crash Team Racing and Sonic & Sega All-Star Racing are both the superior MASTER RACE KARTERS. =P
Crash, I haven't played.  Sonic is fun, though the courses seem somewhat less interesting and less well-marked.  But the balance is better, gotta give it that.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on March 19, 2011, 01:50:04 AM
I just spent about 2 hours on a bus to go to a Best Buy with a demo.

The buttons are nice and clicky. I like them.
Home Start Select buttons feel nice.
I pushed the power button 3 times trying to pause. Who decided that we need to be able to turn off our 3DS as fast as we pause it? Also, who decided it also needed to be in the same area?
The stereoscopy is nice. All they had was Pilotwings, but it was nice and clear.
I noticed that when I slid it down to Minimum, the screen flickered. That suggests that a signal is sent to the 3DS itself to let it know it's in "2D" mode.
The Slidepad felt like a nicer version of the PSP nub, but I am still unable to confirm if it is actually built different or just better made/lubricated.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on March 19, 2011, 03:10:49 AM
Bitching about a game not being what it's not even trying to be is not something that makes a lot of sense to me.  Same applies to offline Brawl discussions.
See, I wasn't clear on what you meant by "identity".  The whole game-specific-code-crap, not knowing what your friends are playing, and all?  There's a club for complaining about that.  It's called Everybody, they meet at the bar.  The 3DS is taking steps to rectify that, though IMHO there is absolutely no reason they shouldn't have had their act together with the Wii.

Communication ain't Nintendo's forte, either.  I've been as frustrated by that as anyone else and I haven't even played an X-Box Live game.  You don't have to run XBL comparisons to see the problem, by any means.  The simple feeling of being cut off from your fellow players when online versus sitting down for a good local multiplayer session is pretty self-evident.  But those are complaints against basically the entire Nintendo WFC service, not of any particular game.  In that sense, Brawl is superior to Kart in that you at least get some personality in your customizable taunts.  But it is just that, customization, not communication.
Crash, I haven't played.  Sonic is fun, though the courses seem somewhat less interesting and less well-marked.  But the balance is better, gotta give it that.
Yep, most of the reasons I hate "tournament players", is because every single game has to be perfectly balanced and amazingly competitive. Jesus Christ, Melee was accidentally competitive. Just let it go, guys.

And I know. But you know me, I like to complain. And the 3DS isn't taking [parasitic bomb]. Making only one code required instead of one per game isn't taking steps, it's just streamlining and making easier a feature which should have never been there in the first place. Nintendo only does this out of children safety, but what they don't understand is that all companies deal with this crap, and they wouldn't lose their family-friendly image by allowing something which would vastly increase their product quality. Then again, they're Nintendo. If they're making money, they don't give a [parasitic bomb] about raising the bar. And taunting is nothing, since Mario Kart essencially provides you with Leaderboards and other options that are common in games nowadays. The game essencially marked an attempt by Nintendo to do things right. Thing is, when you're painting with poop, there's not much else to go but brown.

Also, about Crash, you should really try it sometime, it's (don't kill me, crazy people) superior to MK64, in alot of ways. On All-Star Racing, I actually like the tracks better, because of the big airs you can pull, and how drifting is actually an in-game mechanic, easy to pull out and constantly used, instead of just the spark thing people overuse for snaking.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on March 20, 2011, 11:21:46 PM
And the 3DS isn't taking [parasitic bomb]. Making only one code required instead of one per game isn't taking steps, it's just streamlining and making easier a feature which should have never been there in the first place.
(http://home.comcast.net/~Anguirus/holdit.gif)
3DS supports some level of stats on your friends including what game they're playing, IIRC.

And as a latecomer to PSN I must disagree with the notion that identifying one's account via random code is without merit.  Because see, if you identify by username, it means that if ANYONE ELSE IN THE WHOLE FREAKING WORLD had the same idea as you, ever, you have to either pick something else or attach random [parasitic bomb] to the end.  I hate that.  I'd rather the system identify me by a random number and my name appear to players as whatever the hell I want, regardless of originality.

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And taunting is nothing, since Mario Kart essencially provides you with Leaderboards and other options that are common in games nowadays. The game essencially marked an attempt by Nintendo to do things right. Thing is, when you're painting with poop, there's not much else to go but brown.
One man's paint is another's [parasitic bomb], it seems.  Because to me, leaderboards, mean nothing.  I see no value to them whatsoever and I in no way believe that Mario Kart, Mega Man, or any other such game is better for them.  The taunts provide some manner of personality.  Leaderboards just show who has the most time to kill.  To me, the earlier is a far superior aspect of "identity" than the latter.

Nintendo's got a lot about their online setup that they could stand to fix, but stat-tracking some anonymous weirdos on the internet isn't one that interests me personally.  It never did.  If I want to know how awesome my friends are, I'll ask.  And if I don't know who they are, then I don't really give a damn.  And even if for the sake of argument I did, that's why we have YouTube.

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drifting is actually an in-game mechanic, easy to pull out and constantly used, instead of just the spark thing people overuse for snaking.
There's no snaking in Wii.  That's why we have, and despise, bikes. -_-
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on March 21, 2011, 12:59:24 AM
(http://home.comcast.net/~Anguirus/holdit.gif)
3DS supports some level of stats on your friends including what game they're playing, IIRC.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v502/Ashurahori/defensemad.jpg)
Do you have any idea of how far online gaming has evolved when it comes to consoles? Heck, even with platforms like Steam. We have real-time chat, no matter what game we're playing. We can send each other messages which can be seen anytime, not just through the main menus. We know which games have been finished and which ones haven't, out of all our contacts. You wanna play with someone? Give'em your gamertag, or PSN ID. Contact people with similar interests as you, and choose different difficulty areas. Have heavily involved matchmaking and complex multiplayer lobbies. Launch another completely different game while you're playing something else, by simply accepting another person's multiplayer invite. And this is just the cherry on top of the hundred-layer cake that online multiplayer is, both on XBox Live or PSN.

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And as a latecomer to PSN I must disagree with the notion that identifying one's account via random code is without merit.  Because see, if you identify by username, it means that if ANYONE ELSE IN THE WHOLE FREAKING WORLD had the same idea as you, ever, you have to either pick something else or attach random [parasitic bomb] to the end.  I hate that.  I'd rather the system identify me by a random number and my name appear to players as whatever the hell I want, regardless of originality.
Hahahahaha! So, for the sake of keeping your favoured identity because you can't think of something original, you forego easy access to everyone and choose to let other players you know reach you through one of the worst net identity ideas I've ever seen, as if you're keeping some kind of long phone number you can be contacted with.

"Oh man, you play Halo? Awesome! My Gamertag is DrGamma, look for me there."

"Oh man, you play Mario Kart? Great! We should... play online sometime. I'll just... give you my e-mail, so we can log in and trade numbers, because I don't carry mine with me. But we'll meet up! Sometime..."

Gamertags and PSN IDs make it so trading identities is like trading e-mails. You're foregoing pretty much everything just for the sake of still having your own name to be identified by in matches. Matches with people you know, because obviously people you don't know will see a code or some [parasitic bomb].

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One man's paint is another's [parasitic bomb], it seems.  Because to me, leaderboards, mean nothing.  I see no value to them whatsoever and I in no way believe that Mario Kart, Mega Man, or any other such game is better for them.  The taunts provide some manner of personality.  Leaderboards just show who has the most time to kill.  To me, the earlier is a far superior aspect of "identity" than the latter.
Nintendo's got a lot about their online setup that they could stand to fix, but stat-tracking some anonymous weirdos on the internet isn't one that interests me personally.  It never did.  If I want to know how awesome my friends are, I'll ask.  And if I don't know who they are, then I don't really give a damn.  And even if for the sake of argument I did, that's why we have YouTube.

That reminds me of that Aesop. Fox and the Grapes.
http://static.funnyjunk.com/pictures/12397582858650.png
You don't like a feature. That's cool. What the [tornado fang] does that have to do with our present argument? Nothing whatsoever. Nintendo's online setup is still [parasitic bomb]. And Leaderboards and social options are worshipped by alot of online players.

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There's no snaking in Wii.  That's why we have, and despise, bikes. -_-
Because snaking makes the game SO MUCH FUN.

Bikes rule.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on March 21, 2011, 04:40:33 AM
Mario Kart 64 is THE [parasitic bomb].

Friend codes and Nintendo's online service in general are STONE AGED and TERRIBLE. THE END.



Preordered mine, along with SSFIV3D. I can play Shante DS with this now, right? Right?! :(
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on March 21, 2011, 05:01:14 AM
I think so, since the DSiWare in USA and Europe has Shantae: Risky's Revenge, and the region of the 3DS is the same, so you can download that in May when the 3DS firmware update pops up. >U<
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on March 21, 2011, 05:06:09 AM
May? :( It doesn't work out of the box?...
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: The Great Gonzo on March 21, 2011, 09:33:10 AM
I came into this conversation late, so I'll just say: Tried out the 3DS tonight (last night? It's after 3 A.M. here) at GameStop, and I like it already. :) Too bad the earliest my sisters or I can get one is this Christmas...
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on March 21, 2011, 11:44:00 PM
I'll just leave this here while agreeing that MK64>the rest

http://tinycartridge.com/post/3988659519/three-story-tall-mii-created-with-a-giant-ar-card
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on March 22, 2011, 12:01:15 AM
That's frickin' hilariously awesome. :D
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on March 22, 2011, 12:21:58 AM
I want to StreetPass with more people. O^O

I got Puzzle Trophies for Mario & Koopa (Bowser), Super Mario Galaxy 2 and Hoshi no Kirby. I want Samus Aran and Link.

And I guess I should go back and collect more Game Coins so I can get more hats in StreetPass Quest, since I already beat it once. :3
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on March 22, 2011, 11:48:13 PM
http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=153552

Hahahahaha, holy [parasitic bomb]. There's an R4 for the 3DS out already.

So getting this.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Krystal on March 23, 2011, 02:55:17 AM
Tell me if it actually works >_>!

J/k. I don't have plans for getting the 3DS any time soon, even if it is cool. But this is the reason Nintendo hates us -v-; Pity.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on March 23, 2011, 03:25:13 AM
I'm only getting it for homebrew, truth be told. =P
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on March 23, 2011, 08:01:34 AM
I wonder if anybody will make any nice SNES emulators.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on March 23, 2011, 09:09:50 AM
I just think that giving homebrewers a console capable of basic stereoscopic 3D is gonna do some CRAZY STUFF for mods and other things.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Align on March 23, 2011, 12:15:51 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkgeH0EniOs[/youtube]
sonic boom
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on March 23, 2011, 05:51:20 PM
I just think that giving homebrewers a console capable of basic stereoscopic 3D is gonna do some CRAZY STUFF for mods and other things.

Imagine if someone spent the time to code it to interpret Mode 7.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on March 23, 2011, 07:37:00 PM
Imagine if someone spent the time to code it to interpret Mode 7.
Sounds exactly like the absolutely useless thing a homebrewer with too much time on his hands would do.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Fxeni on March 23, 2011, 07:43:07 PM
Imagine if someone spent the time to code it to interpret Mode 7.
Heh, then F-Zero would be absolutely awesome (well, moreso than it already is).
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on March 23, 2011, 10:56:10 PM
http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=153552

Hahahahaha, holy [parasitic bomb]. There's an R4 for the 3DS out already.

So getting this.

Surprising that they made one so fast, but it may be futile either way. (http://nintendo3dsblog.com/proof-nintendo-will-brick-your-nintendo-3ds-if-you-do-stuff-they-dont-want-you-to-do)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on March 23, 2011, 11:06:33 PM
http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=153552

Hahahahaha, holy [parasitic bomb]. There's an R4 for the 3DS out already.

So getting this.

As long as it doesn't actually end up replacing actual games in the stores I used to go for cheaper games like the original R4 did I don't really mind it or care much for its existence right now.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on March 23, 2011, 11:45:08 PM
Updates of anything are never mandatory. And even if they end up being, it's my choice whether to turn on the net connection of the console or not.

So yeah, gonna get an R4. And screw online play.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on March 24, 2011, 02:20:53 AM
Heh, funny, anti-piracy was part of the reason the devs wanted a new platform.  I know nothing is unhackable but I thought it'd last longer than this. >w<  At the very least the auto-update thing will make it very difficult for the unintelligent to pirate.  I guess that's saying something.

The distinction between "might" or "will" render the console unplayable is interesting.  Little history lesson: The original DS was bricked by Mario Kart DS if the system was using a custom firmware.  That was coincidental: Homebrew devs decided to overwrite unused space that Nintendo intended to use for WiFi settings.  MKDS writes to it, overwrites pieces of the homebrew firmware, homebrew firmware is left in pieces, system doesn't work.

Whether they'll get so aggressive as to intentionally disable the console, we'll see.  But given that the last couple of Wii firmware updates did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING except attack homebrew, I wouldn't put it past them.  Also, there's word out there that the 3DS, in logging games you've been playing, may keep a record of flash card use.

I can play Shante DS with this now, right? Right?! :(
As Vix said, you can play Shantae pending a firmware update (recall with the Wii how news/weather didn't work at launch; yeah they did it again, except with stuff we actually care about).
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on March 24, 2011, 03:17:59 AM
Question. Has Nintendo ever given any thought to implement an "account" system, so when I buy games in their store, they're not just stuck to my Wii/DS? I'd like it if I could transport my DSi's games into my 3DS. Or if I could switch console when it breaks, without having to re-buy all the games all over again.

(Hah, what am I saying. I haven't bought a Nintendo game since 2007. 8D)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on March 24, 2011, 03:29:53 AM
Also, there's word out there that the 3DS, in logging games you've been playing, may keep a record of flash card use.

Not a rumor. Confirmed. When you put in a flash card like say, the Acekard2i, the 3DS will show the ACTUAL DS flash card icon with a blue-colored sticker on the cartridge (not the game it attempts to imitate, like example ALEX RIDER STORMBREAKER). And that Acekard2i icon will show up in the Activity Log too. You can remove ALL activity completely if you format your 3DS settings to factory settings, starting from scratch again. I did test it one time, and did a factory format, and hopefully my 3DS won't be bricked, since there's no record saved anywhere in the system anymore (I'm taking a risk here, I know. I decide to use the Acekard2i in my DSi instead). And that's the point where I decided to get a new friend code, that I posted in the RPM friend list topic. ^^

And I did update the 3DS firmware a week after I got it from the post office. It updated from 1.0.0-0J to 1.1.0.1J, which included a 3D movie.
It didn't brick the system, so it means my 3DS is safe... for now (or maybe the firmware update didn't have any piracy checks). XD
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on March 24, 2011, 05:11:40 AM
Maybe they only care about 3DS piracy and are letting DS and DSi piracy/homebrew slide.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Flame on March 24, 2011, 11:14:46 PM
Oh God... Have you people seen this..?
http://money.cnn.com/video/technology/2011/03/23/t-tt-nintendo-3ds-review.fortune

I just dont know how to react to this level of idiocy.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Fxeni on March 24, 2011, 11:44:34 PM
Quote from: Guy in video
... Hardcore gamers, like me for instance who grew up on Halo ...
8D

Also, I don't think it should be compared to the I Phone/Pad/whatever. The games on those platforms don't have the same design philosophy or audience. Not to mention the different input mechanisms.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on March 24, 2011, 11:49:50 PM
It's like that new PSP commercial where the guy says "Thanks for making real games for real gamers." Which implies anyone who doesn't play PSP isn't a real gamer.

Still, I'll be getting a 3DS eventually.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on March 24, 2011, 11:50:30 PM
8D

Also, I don't think it should be compared to the I Phone/Pad/whatever. The games on those platforms don't have the same design philosophy or audience. Not to mention the different input mechanisms.

I was gonna quote that. You beat me to it.

"Relies exclusively on cartridges"

That word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

PS: I grew up with SNES and NES.
He looks older than me.

Did he wait until he was 20 years old to start growing up?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Flame on March 24, 2011, 11:57:33 PM
They are more like SD cards than cartridges... they more resemble the card in my camera than what goes in the GBA...
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on March 25, 2011, 12:12:34 AM
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/chadwardenn

Same person?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on March 25, 2011, 12:58:15 AM
I was gonna quote that. You beat me to it.

"Relies exclusively on cartridges"

That word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

PS: I grew up with SNES and NES.
He looks older than me.

Did he wait until he was 20 years old to start growing up?
Some people "grow up with games" older. I played since I was 3, so I still went through the 8-bit generation, but most people who play games today started in the 32/64-bit generation.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Flame on March 25, 2011, 02:44:38 AM
I know I grew up with the PSX and GBC.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on March 25, 2011, 02:55:58 AM
I love it how most geeks didn't experience the actual 8-bit/16-bit age, but they still consider it the greatest gaming period ever.

Gaming hipsters. =P
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Krystal on March 25, 2011, 03:09:16 AM
My first gaming console was a NES and I've been Nintendo-happy ever since but it was actually past its age when I got it...

Not that I knew anything about that.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on March 26, 2011, 02:44:10 PM
Yeah, I started on the NES too.  Next console gen, Genesis was that "forbidden fruit" that I begged my parents for every gift-giving occasion and never got until it was well obsolete. >w<  But damn, S3&K was so awesome.

Growing up with two older brothers, we all shared and they got pretty much all the "oldschool" stuff when we went our separate ways, which is why I appreciate Nintendo's psychotic re-release habits.  The first system that I actually bought myself was a Gameboy Color; first console a Gamecube (though my bro gave me his PS1 and Dreamcast later).

I'd like it if I could transport my DSi's games into my 3DS. Or if I could switch console when it breaks, without having to re-buy all the games all over again.

(Hah, what am I saying. I haven't bought a Nintendo game since 2007. 8D)
You're a bit out of the loop, Speedy.  DSiWare transfers from DSi to 3DS have been known for quite some time now, but it first requires Nintendo to get their 3DS e-Shop ducks in a row which will come via a future system update.  'bout a month away, I believe; you can't do it offline.  DSi-to-DSi transfers are nonexistant.

Console breakdowns, and downloadable games suffered thereof, are pretty much give-it-to-Nintendo-to-fix-or-you're-screwed.  You can redownload anything for free but only Nintendo can transfer your account to a new piece of hardware.  On your own, you can transfer your Friend Code data between any DS systems, and that's pretty much it.



So, the Gamestop I preordered my 3DS at is opening at 9 on Sunday, and the one ten minutes further down the road is having a midnight launch. >_< You know, I might be more inclined to swallow their pre-order crap if they didn't run this kind of risk of punishing the early bird all the time.  Ah well, I promised myself I'd run no risk of repeating my Wii launch escapades, such is life.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on March 26, 2011, 08:35:52 PM
You're a bit out of the loop, Speedy.  DSiWare transfers from DSi to 3DS have been known for quite some time now, but it first requires Nintendo to get their 3DS e-Shop ducks in a row which will come via a future system update.  'bout a month away, I believe; you can't do it offline.  DSi-to-DSi transfers are nonexistant.

Console breakdowns, and downloadable games suffered thereof, are pretty much give-it-to-Nintendo-to-fix-or-you're-screwed.  You can redownload anything for free but only Nintendo can transfer your account to a new piece of hardware.  On your own, you can transfer your Friend Code data between any DS systems, and that's pretty much it.
So, pretty much like Apple. Removing functionality in order to keep everything simple. Kinda hate it that it's not in the hands of the consumer to have his/her own account overall. Would actually make things a whole lot simpler, and would allow people to legally take care of [parasitic bomb] on their own.
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Post by: xnamkcor on March 26, 2011, 09:45:03 PM
I'd prefer something similar to Steam or PSN. Nintendo just has some catching up to do. They're still stuck in a time when consoles didn't break.
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Post by: Bueno Excelente on March 27, 2011, 05:38:47 AM
I'd prefer something similar to Steam or PSN. Nintendo just has some catching up to do. They're still stuck in a time when consoles didn't break.
And unfortunately, consoles are less and less made out of Nintendium. A good NES still works like a dream, but we're lucky if a console from nowadays lasts 5 years.
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Post by: Hypershell on March 27, 2011, 08:31:40 PM
A good top-loading NES, I believe you mean.  Unless you've been doing the occasional pin-surgery.

I don't think it's so much a matter of simplicity as it is control.  If you depend on them directly for replacements, and the stability of your library, then you're less likely to do anything out of warranty and/or anything that their repair guys will deliberately penalize you for (a practice already well-established with the Wii).  Read: It's one more method to make sure you use their products their way.



Not a rumor. Confirmed. When you put in a flash card like say, the Acekard2i, the 3DS will show the ACTUAL DS flash card icon with a blue-colored sticker on the cartridge (not the game it attempts to imitate, like example ALEX RIDER STORMBREAKER). And that Acekard2i icon will show up in the Activity Log too. You can remove ALL activity completely if you format your 3DS settings to factory settings, starting from scratch again. I did test it one time, and did a factory format, and hopefully my 3DS won't be bricked, since there's no record saved anywhere in the system anymore (I'm taking a risk here, I know. I decide to use the Acekard2i in my DSi instead). And that's the point where I decided to get a new friend code, that I posted in the RPM friend list topic. ^^

And I did update the 3DS firmware a week after I got it from the post office. It updated from 1.0.0-0J to 1.1.0.1J, which included a 3D movie.
It didn't brick the system, so it means my 3DS is safe... for now (or maybe the firmware update didn't have any piracy checks). XD
Ooo, sneaky.  I was wondering whether or not they'd counter the whole card-imitating thing.

Well, yeah, I guess my M3iZero will not be leaving my DSi.  Quite a shame, seeings how Nintendo's music-playing software tends to suck.  Royally.
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Post by: Bueno Excelente on March 27, 2011, 10:03:00 PM
A good top-loading NES, I believe you mean.  Unless you've been doing the occasional pin-surgery.

I don't think it's so much a matter of simplicity as it is control.  If you depend on them directly for replacements, and the stability of your library, then you're less likely to do anything out of warranty and/or anything that their repair guys will deliberately penalize you for (a practice already well-established with the Wii).  Read: It's one more method to make sure you use their products their way.
I think it is of simplicity as well. The whole Nintendo product range reeks of simplicity. The Wii, for example, astounds me as to the complete and total lack of customization options it has, the way they never really updated the channel system or used extra memory for anything useful other than VC game storage, the way so many features and channels they add are completely reduntant and infantile, and how there's really a TON of easy-added options they could make millions with, that they just choose not to add.

I know it doesn't appeal to us particularly, but imagine the Wii with Facebook and Twitter channels, like the 360 has. No matter how incredibly basic they'd be, they would have a LARGE success. And I know Nintendo wants to stay as far away as possible from the app market and keep people in the dark ages about how all games must cost 40 bucks or more all the time, but with how widespread their software is, they could make so much from that market. So much more they're making now.

I know Nintendo isn't one to shy away from money. Why are they doing so now?
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Post by: VixyNyan on March 27, 2011, 10:12:27 PM
Nintendo 3DS (Aqua Blue) (http://www.play-asia.com/SOap-23-83-tw6-71-188-49-en-84-j-70-3zeq.html)

Quote
$349.00 - $69.80 = $279.20

Ooo PlayAsia, you so sneaky~ >U<
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Post by: Bueno Excelente on March 27, 2011, 10:32:14 PM
Can't wait until I see the overinflated price over here. -_-
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Post by: Joebucks on March 27, 2011, 10:40:39 PM
I can't wait for Nintendo to release a new version that gets rid of things people are complaining about.

And for Paper Mario.
And Legend of the Mystical Ninja 3D. I know they haven't announced it but who wouldn't want a new Legend of the Mystical Ninja?
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Post by: Solar on March 27, 2011, 10:44:27 PM
Can't wait until I see the overinflated price over here. -_-

Thing is already literally twice as expensive as the US here. -____-
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Post by: Phi on March 27, 2011, 11:35:45 PM
So now that the 3DS is out in the US, who here has it?

nvm, saw the Wi-Fi list topic. My 3DS should be shipped to my house during the following week, along with Street Fighter.
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Post by: VirusChris on March 27, 2011, 11:41:42 PM
OK, here's my Mii for you guys to download!
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Post by: Solar on March 28, 2011, 12:02:02 AM
So, if I'm going to the US in April, do you guys think I'll be able to find 3DSs? No [tornado fang]ing way I'm paying double for it here.
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Post by: Bueno Excelente on March 28, 2011, 12:04:46 AM
Thing is already literally twice as expensive as the US here. -____-
In your country. In mine, we're going through a literal economical reform where all taxes on products are being raised by ALOT PERCENT.

So if it averages to 400 dollars or so, I wouldn't be surprised.
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Post by: Solar on March 28, 2011, 12:20:17 AM
If that's US dollars that'd still be cheaper than here, and we're in the same [tornado fang]ing continent >__>

When I say it's literally double the price, I'm not exaggerating, it really is.
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Post by: Bueno Excelente on March 28, 2011, 12:54:46 AM
Where do you live?
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Post by: Solar on March 28, 2011, 01:39:53 AM
Mexico, it's $6000 ($500 US almost exactly). The worst part? It was $1000 cheaper like last month and they suddenly decided to increase the price.
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Post by: Bueno Excelente on March 28, 2011, 01:43:36 AM
Oooooh. But Mexico has amazingly overinflated prices. Any chance you can import?
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Post by: Solar on March 28, 2011, 01:46:23 AM
Well, a friend told me that doing that I'd get taxed so much that it'd barely make a difference so yeah...That's why I asked if anyone thought I'd be able to find one without trouble next month when I'm going to the US.
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Post by: Bueno Excelente on March 28, 2011, 01:50:00 AM
Wherer are you going exactly? Ask someone to reserve you one or something. To keep it for you. Give them money by paypal if necessary, but do that deal, it's worth it.
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Post by: Solar on March 28, 2011, 01:53:37 AM
I'll be staying with an uncle in Kansas. I would do what you say, but I'm short on money right now and was hoping I could convince my parents to get it as an early (as in 3 months early) birthday present with the "it'll literally cost double back home" argument >.>

Worst case scenario I get it the same way I got my 360, working with my uncle in Kansas during summer.
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Post by: Bueno Excelente on March 28, 2011, 02:47:59 AM
Then get it that way. I'm gonna try and get mine on my birthday too. It's only in May, but from the looks of the lineup, no rush necessary.
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Post by: Hypershell on March 28, 2011, 04:09:22 AM
So, if I'm going to the US in April, do you guys think I'll be able to find 3DSs? No [tornado fang]ing way I'm paying double for it here.
Hard to say.  There were lines, but the system didn't appear to be the instant-sell-out-insanity that the Wii was by any means.  All I can say is, I wish you the best.

I can't wait for Nintendo to release a new version that gets rid of things people are complaining about.
What people are complaining about most right now is the battery.  And I'm seriously wondering how much of that is due to the always-on wireless (similar complaints arise with any DS model while playing Pokemon Black/White with the C-Gear on).  Need to experiment with that sometime.
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Post by: Turian on March 28, 2011, 05:38:03 AM
I'll be picking up the 3DS when (if) Legends 3 comes out. Failing that, i'll wait for Zelda and Kid Icarus.
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Post by: xnamkcor on March 28, 2011, 06:30:01 AM
Hard to say.  There were lines, but the system didn't appear to be the instant-sell-out-insanity that the Wii was by any means.  All I can say is, I wish you the best.
What people are complaining about most right now is the battery.  And I'm seriously wondering how much of that is due to the always-on wireless (similar complaints arise with any DS model while playing Pokemon Black/White with the C-Gear on).  Need to experiment with that sometime.

Always on? The model at Best Buy had a WiFi switch that you could flick and it turned of the light near a WiFi symbol.
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Post by: Bueno Excelente on March 28, 2011, 06:32:41 AM
Always on? The model at Best Buy had a WiFi switch that you could flick and it turned of the light near a WiFi symbol.
He means the lazy-asses who leave the switch always on.

Happens all the time with people who own a PSP, for example.
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Post by: STM on March 28, 2011, 07:39:55 AM
Here's one for all the 3DS peeps out there, made special.

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/genehf/HNI_0002-1.jpg)
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Post by: Hypershell on March 29, 2011, 02:25:15 AM
Always on? The model at Best Buy had a WiFi switch that you could flick and it turned of the light near a WiFi symbol.
Flash's response applies, but more specifically, what I meant is that the 3DS's wireless communications (if you do not manually turn the switch off) are always active, due to the Street/Spot Pass features, Friend List tracking, and such.  That's not the same thing as, say, leaving a PSP/DSi's wireless enabled all the time in games that don't actually use it.

Again, read a Pokemon Black/White review that mentions the C-Gear and battery life in the same sentence; same thing.
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Post by: Bueno Excelente on March 29, 2011, 02:37:12 AM
The rumor mill is flowing and hate threads are being made all over because of 3DS problems. Does anyone here know anyone who has any problem with theirs? I'd actually like to check if there's any veracity at all to this (to save me from buying launch models like I did with my 360).
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Post by: Hypershell on March 29, 2011, 03:13:03 AM
Aside from a slight peeling on the corner of the serial number sticker, mine's perfect.  'course, I don't know what kind of problems you're talking about.
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Post by: Bueno Excelente on March 29, 2011, 03:25:42 AM
Red ring kind of problems. A brick. It's said to be happening on a few 3DSes, and a few haters decided to spin it into "57% failure rate".

I'd still like to know if anyone at all is having trouble, and if so, what kind.
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Post by: xnamkcor on March 29, 2011, 03:27:23 AM
Flash's response applies, but more specifically, what I meant is that the 3DS's wireless communications (if you do not manually turn the switch off) are always active, due to the Street/Spot Pass features, Friend List tracking, and such.  That's not the same thing as, say, leaving a PSP/DSi's wireless enabled all the time in games that don't actually use it.

Again, read a Pokemon Black/White review that mentions the C-Gear and battery life in the same sentence; same thing.

I know it's not the same. It's worse. You have a platform that was constantly advertised as heavy in use of WiFi. And then the person leaves the WiFi on and wonders where the battery is going? It's not rocket science. Some people's children.

Aside from a slight peeling on the corner of the serial number sticker, mine's perfect.  'course, I don't know what kind of problems you're talking about.

That Serial Number. Do they know that's the only way we can redeem the warranty and other things? And they purposefully make it easy to rub off so they can force you to buy a new one out of your own pocket? Seriously, Cell phones have been putting it in a safe place for about a decade. Get it together Nintendo.

Red ring kind of problems. A brick. It's said to be happening on a few 3DSes, and a few haters decided to spin it into "57% failure rate".

I'd still like to know if anyone at all is having trouble, and if so, what kind.

-.53%
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Post by: Krystal on March 29, 2011, 03:34:01 AM
All I know is that a friend (Stupid Americans and their releases) has a 3DS with a loose hinge. Which isn't a problem but will be when he wears it down into a cracked hinge.
No one I know has a failure of a 3DS =w=a
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Post by: Bueno Excelente on March 29, 2011, 03:39:22 AM
http://kotaku.com/#!5786555/nintendo-suggests-you-send-them-your-frozen-your-locked-up-3ds-systems

Here's a piece of news. Not known how serious yet, but the problem is at least aparent.
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Post by: OBJECTION MAN on March 29, 2011, 05:50:05 AM
The hinge on my screen is a tad lose, giving it a little wiggle room. It's not too bad since the angle I hold it at will keep it from ever really moving, but it sort of irks me that it is already like this out of the box.
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Post by: xnamkcor on March 29, 2011, 06:49:59 AM
From what I've heard, that looseness is the alternative to hinge cracking.
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Post by: Bueno Excelente on March 29, 2011, 10:17:24 AM
From what I've heard, that looseness is the alternative to hinge cracking.
Funnily, I've never had any problem with hinges, and looseness was never required in account of opening and closing my DS.

Heck, if Nintendo wants to make something less prone to break, why not their triggers? I'm always really careful with buttons, and still my L trigger on Nintendo consoles always breaks somehow. I dunno why.
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Post by: Krystal on March 29, 2011, 02:25:23 PM
Curiously, none of my nintendo consoles have ever broken in any way >_>a
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Post by: Reaperoid on March 29, 2011, 02:34:34 PM
Funny... Only my GBA SP has a working L-trigger.
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Post by: xnamkcor on March 29, 2011, 05:16:25 PM
Megaman Zero 1 killed my GBA SP's L Trigger.
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Post by: Phi on March 29, 2011, 09:54:59 PM
Well, SSFIV3D came today... but no 3DS. >_> It should definitely be tomorrow for me then.

At least the 3D cover on SSFIV is pretty cool.
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Post by: xnamkcor on March 29, 2011, 10:12:35 PM
Put it in your DS. See if you get an error.
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Post by: Police Girl on March 29, 2011, 10:32:12 PM
It wouldn't fit. It has that prong, if you cut it off it would fit, but why would you want to do that?
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Post by: Bueno Excelente on March 29, 2011, 10:42:45 PM
It wouldn't fit. It has that prong, if you cut it off it would fit, but why would you want to do that?
For the same reason you can summon an unholy demonic god when you cut the wide parts of a GBA cartridge and make it fit on an original Game Boy.

It works, I confirmed it.
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Post by: xnamkcor on March 29, 2011, 10:46:49 PM
For the same reason you can summon an unholy demonic god when you cut the wide parts of a GBA cartridge and make it fit on an original Game Boy.

It works, I confirmed it.

Or, you can get a GBA and force the switch to trigger that puts it in GBC mode.
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Post by: Bueno Excelente on March 29, 2011, 10:57:42 PM
I said original Game Boy. GBA has no cthulhus.

By the way, this topic doesn't have enough mindless trolling.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v502/Ashurahori/deyseemetrollan.png)

There. 8D
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Post by: Hypershell on March 31, 2011, 02:40:33 AM
I enjoy many things.  Two in particular, are Godzilla Unleashed for the Wii, and life as a free man.  As such I must ignore all review scores, lest I sever Daemon Hatfield's head.

That said, bitching about the quality of 3DS's launch lineup is nothing new.  Been going on ever since the launch lineup was announced.  I consider it fortunate that we in the U.S. even got Pilotwings; Japan has to wait until April 14th.
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Post by: VixyNyan on March 31, 2011, 05:05:44 AM
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/nintendo3ds-streetpassplaza-miihats.jpg

[spoiler]01. Mario Hat
02. Luigi Hat
03. Kinopio/Toad Hat
04. Koopa/Bowser Hat
05. Red Pikmin Hat
06. Blue Pikmin Hat
07. Yellow Pikmin Hat
08. Link Hat
09. Samus Hat
10. Metroid Hat
11. Kirby Hat
12. Neko/Cat Hat
13. Inu/Dog Hat
14. Usagi/Rabbit Hat
15. Royalty (King/Queen/Prince/Princess) Hat
16. Last Ghost (Final Boss) Hat[/spoiler]
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Post by: CephiYumi on March 31, 2011, 05:33:16 AM
Awww, I can't get hats yet D:
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Post by: VirusChris on March 31, 2011, 11:49:58 PM
Got Mario and Car Ears hats so far.
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Post by: BossPlaya on April 01, 2011, 12:45:14 AM
Didn't get mine yet, but I got to play one at GameStop twice so far. I've played Super Street Fighter IV 3D Edition, and it looks awesome. It's amazing how they're able to get that 3D effect.
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Post by: STM on April 01, 2011, 01:11:04 AM
So I walked around today with my 3DS on street pass.

Result?

0.

Seriously, this feature is [tornado fang]ing useless in the U.S. unless you go to geek hangouts, like conventions.
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Post by: VixyNyan on April 01, 2011, 02:09:15 AM
Got 3 more Miis in the StreetPass Plaza. None of them had new puzzle pieces tho. ^^;

I want Samus, Link, Pikmin and New SMB. puzzle pieces. Every 3DS unit gets one random piece every time they start their 3DS fresh out of the box, so at least someone should have one of them. If things come to worse, I have to actually wait to get another 3DS, like the Lite/XL upgrade. o.o;
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Post by: Phi on April 01, 2011, 02:25:06 AM
So I walked around today with my 3DS on street pass.

Result?

0.

Seriously, this feature is [tornado fang]ing useless in the U.S. unless you go to geek hangouts, like conventions.

Maybe crowded places like Manhattan (especially at night) may suffice.
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Post by: VirusChris on April 01, 2011, 04:36:52 AM
Same problem here... I have 0 results too with the StreetPass, at least incorporate the ability to do this online just in case you're unable to do it while walking. I have to wait until my local mall is filled with a lot of people to do that, but at the same time only 60 people or so reserved their copy and got it so I'm not sure if the people who got it are there.

Le sigh... At least the Hire a Hero and Earn a Piece using Play Coins works though walking everyday is the way to go, which is why I got the hats and puzzle pieces already.
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Post by: xnamkcor on April 01, 2011, 04:56:36 AM
The best method for getting StreetPass hits seems to be mirroring the behavioral patterns of a pedophile.
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Post by: Align on April 01, 2011, 04:30:59 PM
Nintendo is for kids.

SEGA! SEGA! SEGA!
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Post by: Hypershell on April 02, 2011, 12:32:39 AM
The best method for getting StreetPass hits seems to be mirroring the behavioral patterns of a pedophile.
Yeah, I need to stalk the parks and malls sometime myself. XD  Got the Mario and Cat hats on hired heroes alone so far.

I can see the logic in these kinds of incentives to carry your system with you at all times, but it does really bite for early adopters when few other people have the system yet.  And IMHO online registered Friends really should count as a SpotPass for the Mii stuff.  I was hoping to bring in my RPM buddies as a team of anti-ghost heroes, but no such luck. :'(

I will say this, though.  Whoever thought of the pedometer/play coin thing knew what they were doing.  Because that's the ONLY reason anyone not living in a crowded city doesn't just ignore SpotPass altogether.
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Post by: Ramzal on April 03, 2011, 05:03:48 AM
I'm feeling deja vu from just doing this but here goes. As many know, I did not like the idea of the 3ds for several reasons, high price, not interested in a 3d function, as well as health risks to playing it. Well, as much as I wish I could say I was wrong, personally I was not. Again, on a personal level. I didn't care too much on the screen size and felt it could have been bigger, but the detail on it is impressive, the size of the machine is pretty conveniant for carrying in your pocket. My niche with it is and always will be the 3-d effect. Saying it hurt my eyes would only be one side of the story. Everytime I blinded I loss the 3-d effect and had to readjust, I began to develop a headache as well. And I noticed the switch that allowed me to turn off the 3-d effect so I did. But I began to wonder why bother at that point?

Why buy a machine so I can avoid it's main selling point? It just seems silly, sheeplike in a way. Namely for the sales price of it. I'm not trying to troll but needless to say, I don't see the point in buying a machine that makes me feel uncomfortable. I will be sticking with my DSi and hope that this 3-D fad ceases at one point or another.
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Post by: Solar on April 03, 2011, 05:11:29 AM
Why buy a DS when you have a GBA? Why buy a GBA when you have a GBC? Is that enough of an answer?
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Post by: Ramzal on April 03, 2011, 04:43:26 PM
But the GBC was and update from the GB because it added color. The GBA was an advancement of the color because its graphic advance to the GBC. It was practically like having a Super Nintendo in your pocket. The DS took it further by allowing internet, direct interaction and a better battery life. The 3-ds is a graphical leap (Thank god it's a small screen or else those games would look like crap.) but the battery life is laughable and (I know I am going in circles here) the selling point is the 3D. I am not going to buy something to ignore its main selling point. That's like buying a movie ticket to a 3d movie--PAYING MORE--and then saying "Eh. I don't feel like watching a 3-d movie" or "3-d movies make my head hurt" and then sneaking into a normal movie. It makes no sense. Beyond that, while it would be nice to get remakes of old games, I could just play the old version of the game again and leave it like that. Because odds are the remakes won't have much new content outside of a graphics leap. (OoT remake for an example.)

It's one thing if someone buys a 3-ds and plays it with the pop-out function (Cause lets not even kid ourselves here. That's all a 3d effect it. Someone had a video about that here) and then says "You know, I want to see what it looks like normally." That's different, because the function has been put to use out of enjoyment. But to buy it and just shut off the 3d function is just.... pointless.
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Post by: nobody on April 03, 2011, 04:51:34 PM
why don't you just get a 3ds so you play 3ds games
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on April 03, 2011, 06:31:33 PM
*sigh* They'll eventually stop doing DS games and you'll have to get a 3DS if you ever want to play any new games, just like with the GB(C)->GBA or GBA->DS transition.

3D is just like HD, it may make games look prettier and it may also be the selling point of a console (360/PS3), but you don't need it to enjoy the games coming out for it.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Ramzal on April 03, 2011, 11:27:13 PM
*sigh* They'll eventually stop doing DS games and you'll have to get a 3DS if you ever want to play any new games, just like with the GB(C)->GBA or GBA->DS transition.

3D is just like HD, it may make games look prettier and it may also be the selling point of a console (360/PS3), but you don't need it to enjoy the games coming out for it.

I dislike having to repeat myself/risk sounding like a douche, but allow me to say it again. 3d is nothing more than a pop out effect. And even more, it makes me fell -sick- looking at it. Like. Literally. I'm not going to to buy something that makes me feel ill just touching it--as I did. I'm not going to get the 3d for that reason (And allow me -again- that yes, I did in fact play with a 3ds and it was not pleasent.) HD = I don't feel sick playing it. 3ds = I do feel sick playing it. And like I said, without the 3d option I personally don't see a point in paying for it. I know that I don't -need- it. I don't even want it, however I refuse to buy it seeing as how it's main selling point doesn't relate to me, nor am I willing to pay for something with so little battery life. Mainly when I play my handhelds when I'm not in my home for the most part. So, if I'm in my lab for about eight hours, working. The 3ds barely meets that and the price for it doesn't really strike my fancy.

Not to sound rude but, is it that hard of a concept to grasp? It just simply does not appeal to -me-. To you, sure. Just not to me.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on April 03, 2011, 11:45:15 PM
Not to sound rude either, but to use your same words, is getting a console for the games that come out for it that hard of a concept to grasp? I dunno about you, but games are a better selling point to me than 3D.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Acid on April 04, 2011, 01:46:33 AM
In the end,I didn't get mine last Friday. :(

The thing is pretty cool but the shop had no games I'm interested in. I'll wait some more time.

Posted on: April 04, 2011, 00:47:38
I was unsure wether to post it here, or in the Monster Hunter thread. So I decided to post it in both:

http://nintendo3dsblog.com/monster-hunter-3ds-revealed-by-an-employee-translating-the-game-to-english


But one question: How does online work with the 3DS? Is it stable? Is international and intercontinental play possible?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on April 04, 2011, 02:55:01 AM
Online is great on DS systems in general. Most of the time, it's stable. It's wireless only tho. ^^;
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Acid on April 04, 2011, 03:01:07 AM
Hm, is it easy to hook up though?

And could I play with you, Cephi or Sub Tank if the 3DS got a MH title?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on April 04, 2011, 03:09:27 AM
If you can hookup a Wii wireless connection, you can hookup a 3DS connection. ^^
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Acid on April 04, 2011, 03:17:11 AM
Well that should work then.

But back to the other question: How far does the online reach?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on April 04, 2011, 07:08:52 AM
I do believe the internet is worldwide.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Acid on April 04, 2011, 12:34:03 PM
That's great to hear.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VirusChris on April 04, 2011, 02:23:42 PM
So getting the Monster Hunter game for the 3DS.

Hopefully I'll go hunting with some of my RPM buddies, should be fun. :)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Acid on April 04, 2011, 02:26:38 PM
To this day I wish MH3 had worldwide servers. Being restricted to Europe/Australia only sucks.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on April 04, 2011, 10:42:59 PM
Well that should work then.

But back to the other question: How far does the online reach?

It's completely worldwide. Street Fighter 3D for example, has this.

Never played Monster Hunter before, so i hope they do make one for 3DS soon.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Turian on April 05, 2011, 08:24:45 AM
Thanks STM, awesome Iwata. Also, I went ahead and got one. Played SF4 on it at gamestop and loved the 3D THAT much.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on April 07, 2011, 11:56:18 PM
Ramzal:
Zan has said this before, and I'll say it again:  The full and sole purpose of buying ANY new system, is because it is newer, more powerful hardware for which future games will be made.  That's it.  3D is a gimmick.  It's one which I find enjoyable, and which after a day or two of break-in doesn't bug me in the least (assuming I'm not in a car, anyway).  Nobody's going to blame you if the 3DS library thus far isn't your bag, but as with all systems that changes over time.

On battery, two things.  One, the charging dock really does make things more convenient.  I know it sounds stupid but just setting your system down to charge rather than fumbling with the plug makes it a lot more convenient to keep the system's battery full.  Two, if you're planning on some marathon play time, shut off the wireless.  I've yet to test but I'm fairly well convinced that Spot/Street Pass suck up far more battery life than the 3D display.

You and you alone decide if a software library is right for you, or if it's worth getting later rather than sooner.  But the "3D is the main selling point" thing, well, that's just marketing bull, and when you cite THAT as your main reason for holding off, it makes it a lot harder to not sound like a douche.

I was unsure wether to post it here, or in the Monster Hunter thread. So I decided to post it in both:

http://nintendo3dsblog.com/monster-hunter-3ds-revealed-by-an-employee-translating-the-game-to-english
...don't F*@#! with me, Capcom. :O

To this day I wish MH3 had worldwide servers. Being restricted to Europe/Australia only sucks.
Indeed it does.  Apparently Ninja Lou is the only U.S. Tri player on RPM other than myself, and he's NEVER FREAKING ON.  Can't tell you how much I wish I could strut my stuff with you and Vix.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on April 08, 2011, 12:00:09 AM
Apparently Ninja Lou is the only U.S. Tri player on RPM other than myself

Um technically I own the US version too (all 3 versions actually), and I play the US one the most.
But I still want to find time to play the game with any of you. ^^; Either on a Sunday or a weekday.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Acid on April 08, 2011, 12:03:49 AM
Oh yeah that's great just exclude me. It's alright.

No really, it is. Haven't touched Tri in a while.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Ninja Lou on April 08, 2011, 03:13:29 AM
Um technically I own the US version too (all 3 versions actually), and I play the US one the most.
But I still want to find time to play the game with any of you. ^^; Either on a Sunday or a weekday.

I didn't know you had the american version. The thing is I am only lvl 19 since my party longer play.

Oh yeah that's great just exclude me. It's alright.

No really, it is. Haven't touched Tri in a while.
I wish we could play together, maybe they finally make one where we can.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VirusChris on April 08, 2011, 08:21:44 AM
I, too, have a US version of Monster Hunter Tri though I haven't been on for a while now.

I look forward to finding out what the new Monster Hunter game has to offer. What kind of new monsters and gear will we get? ^_^
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Reaperoid on April 08, 2011, 08:36:50 AM
Funny story regarding the mention of leaping from systems: I actually went backwards in the Nintendo heirarchy, as (I'm ashamed to say that) I started with a DSL. I got GBA games and, annoyed with the fit in Slot-2 got a GBA SP, and the same thing happened with GB/C games. It'll never end, since I'm such a sucker with legacy Nintendo gear >w<
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on April 13, 2011, 07:05:45 AM
Starfox releasing on July 14 in JP.
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/04/13/starfox_64_3ds_date/

Also, OoT3DS official site, there's not much though.
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/3ds/aqej/index.html

God I need that Zelda image as my wallpaper, can somebody rip it? D:
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on April 13, 2011, 07:13:46 AM
Very nice indeed! June/July is going to be an expensive month for me!
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Fxeni on April 13, 2011, 07:39:29 AM
Is it bad that I'm more excited for SF64 than OoT? Yes? Ok. Just checking.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on April 13, 2011, 07:47:48 AM
Is it bad that I'm more excited for SF64 than OoT? Yes? Ok. Just checking.

Well we've received good Zelda since OoT. No Star Fox has come close to being as good as 64.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on April 13, 2011, 09:59:13 AM
Starfox releasing on July 14 in JP.
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/04/13/starfox_64_3ds_date/

Also, OoT3DS official site, there's not much though.
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/3ds/aqej/index.html

God I need that Zelda image as my wallpaper, can somebody rip it? D:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v90/xnamkcor/main_image.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Align on April 13, 2011, 10:04:58 AM
[youtube]x78G4XsVOZo[/youtube]
We're Star Fox!
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on April 21, 2011, 08:42:15 PM
2 Miis I made quickly
(http://i56.tinypic.com/2dvpdf5.jpg)
(http://i55.tinypic.com/2usk4kj.jpg)
(http://i54.tinypic.com/1z5og75.jpg)
(http://i54.tinypic.com/dzas0p.jpg)


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v90/xnamkcor/main_image.jpg)

Thanks
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on April 21, 2011, 09:10:15 PM
Funny story, it was in the HTML. They seemed to have layered the flash on top of it.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on April 21, 2011, 09:34:26 PM
More Super Mario 3DS info! RACCOON SUIT HOOOOOOOO!  (http://www.next-gen.biz/news/miyamoto-reveals-more-on-mario-3ds)

(Or Tanooki. I'll take either)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on April 21, 2011, 09:46:49 PM
More Super Mario 3DS info! RACCOON SUIT HOOOOOOOO!  (http://www.next-gen.biz/news/miyamoto-reveals-more-on-mario-3ds)

(Or Tanooki. I'll take either)

Wow. This and the possible Wii 2 announcement... Nintendo is going to dominate E3 once again, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on April 22, 2011, 05:45:10 PM
Sweet news.  I'm curious as to how the tail will handle, considering that melee attacks in 3D Mario is pretty much a default feature.

I REALLY hope we see the return of Tanooki and Hammer suits...
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Align on April 22, 2011, 05:58:29 PM
Maybe it increases in size as you swing, like his hands and feet did in 64, and gives much better range?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Acid on April 22, 2011, 06:00:32 PM
Maybe it increases in size as you swing, like his hands and feet did in 64, and gives much better range?

That's a pretty nifty idea actually.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on April 22, 2011, 07:34:16 PM
Sweet news.  I'm curious as to how the tail will handle, considering that melee attacks in 3D Mario is pretty much a default feature.

I REALLY hope we see the return of Tanooki and Hammer suits...

Well, I imagine the tail would have a 360° range, so unless Mario has a spin too in this game that should be enough to make it unique. The extra range idea is nice though.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on April 22, 2011, 07:38:44 PM
Well, it's a minor point either way, just fun to think about.  I'm considerably more concerned with whether or not I'll be able to break a Thwomp by dropping a Tanooki-statue on it.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on April 23, 2011, 01:15:46 AM
More 3DS related news~ (http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=156521)

Miyamoto Conference in Paris. (http://vimeo.com/22754902)

Quote
- Nintendo has wrapped up The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D's development. Translations are being tweaked.
- LoZ 3D will run at 30 frames per second on 3DS
- Master Quest mode lets you play in mirror mode
- StarFox 64 3D development is finished
- the game will have the same name in all territories
- Super Mario 3D is still under intensive development.
- Mario Kart 3D will be released this year.
- Super Mario 3D will be a combination of Super Mario 64, Super Mario Galaxy and New Super Mario Bros.
- Super Mario 3D will be fully unveiled at E3 2011.
- Super Mario 3D will include a fixed camera system, slightly like the one you saw in Super Mario 64, in which the camera does not move and Mario walks around on the screen
- expect a great level of depth from the game, due to the 3D
- Nintendo is currently experimenting several entirely new 3D concepts
- Miyamoto is testing a game in which the player must discover which object is being displayed by moving it in different ways
- for example, an object that looked like something could prove to be completely different once viewed in a different manner
- the goal for Miyamoto is to use 3D to make the players feel surprised
- Nintendo is also testing a game in which an image is only visible to the left eye, and another image is only visible to the right eye
- Miyamoto would use this original concept for a Ghost game in which the player would not necessarily see what is coming in front of him
- Miyamoto loves ghost stories
- Nintendo is considering a possible connectivity between the Nintendo 3DS and a future home console, where the Nintendo 3DS could be used as a controller
- this, and many other ideas are being tested

Aww, no flageu Lylat Wars? Oh well. ^^;;

And upping the OoT visual rate from 20 to 30 fps is very welcome. x3
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on April 23, 2011, 01:34:01 AM
Holy hell, Mario Kart 3D this year too? (Which reminds me, we haven't gotten proper gameplay footage of it yet) Good to see that Capcom isn't the only one releasing promising games early in the 3DS lifespan.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Acid on April 23, 2011, 01:36:15 AM
So the new system is practically confirmed?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on April 23, 2011, 01:41:27 AM
I think Nintendo has always said they were "working" on the successor, but never specified further than that.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on April 23, 2011, 04:09:56 AM
Every company is always "working" on a successor, it's just a question of what gets scrapped and what makes it to announcement/release.

And if the Cafe rumors are to be believed, then the 3DS-controller idea sounds good to me.  I mean, really, why the hell not?  That question was in the back of my head ever since the whole controller-with-a-screen thing first came up.  All the 3DS is missing is an extra stick, and some of us barely use those (most intense C-Stick use for me was Command Mission).
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on April 23, 2011, 04:21:59 AM
More info~ (http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=156535)

Quote
- Miyamoto believes the touch screen has really helped the game out, especially in the Water Temple
- 3D in the cut-scenes
- animations had to be reworked
- shooting options in StarFox that take into account your distance from the target and how it moves
- unsure if the Raccoon or Tanooki suit will be in Super Mario 3D, but one will definitely be there
- a second thumb stick was considered for 3DS, but it was decided against. Miyamoto believes gyroscopic controls, if done right, could account for that
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on April 23, 2011, 06:49:03 PM
Every company is always "working" on a successor, it's just a question of what gets scrapped and what makes it to announcement/release.

Yes, but Nintendo has been incredibly vague about this one. For instance, they personally said that their next handheld would implement dual screens considerably before it was actually announced publicly. One of the reasons why everyone was anticipating it besides being the offspring of the mighty GBA. I could be wrong, but i believe they hinted at new motion control for the Wii as well.

I mean, i'm pretty sure their at a concrete stance in terms of this new system's processors, (most of at least) capabilities and whatnot. Perhaps their keeping hush because they believe this could be their biggest release yet; who knows.
Title: More eShop-related info~ (Nintendo 3DS)
Post by: VixyNyan on April 25, 2011, 11:44:06 PM
More eShop-related info~ (http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=156631)

Quote
   Your Nintendo 3DS delivers awe-inspiring graphics and glasses-free 3D visuals, providing you with the most immersive handheld gaming experience to date. From updated classics to augmented reality to 3D photography, the 3DS delivers a wealth of options that you love. Why not completely expand your 3DS experience with the help of this Nintendo 3DS Cash Card?

    Replenish your Nintendo 3DS eWallet with this Nintendo 3DS Cash Card. Get the full multimedia experience on your 3DS with downloadable games, add-on content, 3D video on demand and a new eShop. The new eShop features demos, game trailers, user ratings and previews. Use the funds in your wallet to purchase classic Gameboy and Gameboy Color titles and download them directly to your Nintendo 3DS for some on-the-go nostalgia.

(http://i55.tinypic.com/28t9dap.png)
Download De... (mo)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on April 26, 2011, 03:56:25 AM
Legends 3 Prototype first, general shop system improvements later.

WHEN, DAMN YOU?! O:<
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on April 26, 2011, 04:41:41 AM
Project Cafe/3DS rumors - Rareware talk, Retro Studios work, Metroid brand and much more (http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=156704)

Quote
- Retro Studios is not working on Eternal darkness 2 or Zelda

- Rareware and Nintendo have had discussions of working on the 3DS (!!!!) <3 <3 <3

- the idea of working on a revamp of StarFox Adventures was discussed, but seems to have been shelved (awwwww!)

- Banjo-Kazooie on 3DS is not out of the question (!!!!) <3 <3 <3

- much like Viva Pinata on DS, Microsoft thinks that brand extensions on DS could help them sell games on 360
- multiple third parties are working on ports of 360/PS3 games for Project Cafe, with one third party in particular porting a bunch of content
- Nintendo may consider letting the Metroid series cool for awhile after support for the franchise seems to be waning
- Nintendo thinks the Earthbound series makes more sense on portables, but that doesn't confirm anything in the works
- system is once again, more powerful than 360/PS3
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Fxeni on April 26, 2011, 06:07:16 AM
Quote
- Retro Studios is not working on Eternal darkness 2 or Zelda
Please be Star Fox, please be Star Fox, please be Star Fox... Ad Hominem.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on April 26, 2011, 06:35:24 AM
Please be Star Fox, please be Star Fox, please be Star Fox... Ad Hominem.

I think you means Ad Nauseam.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Kieran on April 26, 2011, 04:36:25 PM
Well, I got a 3DS.  Strictly for getting MML3P next month.  Because I am a sucker.

Shame I have nothing to play on it in the meantime.

At least it looks pretty?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Fxeni on April 26, 2011, 06:27:34 PM
I think you means Ad Nauseam.
Indeed, my error. Such is the result of no sleep. Anyways, it's pretty clear what I mean.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on April 26, 2011, 09:29:39 PM
Indeed, my error. Such is the result of no sleep. Anyways, it's pretty clear what I mean.

Yeah. I love shooting and eating dogs too.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Jericho on April 27, 2011, 01:02:13 AM
Please be Star Fox, please be Star Fox, please be Star Fox... Ad Hominem.

Wrong Star related franchise. 8D

Please be StarTropics, please be StarTropics, please be StarTropics, please be Startropics...

Besides, I'd love to see an EAD1 based StarFox more at this point. With 13 years between now and the last game they made (SF64), I can only imagine the kinds of crazy ideas they must have for its gameplay. Hearing that they are the only ones involved with the SF64 3D edition is also pleasant news and makes me wonder about a new one from the same team even more.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on April 27, 2011, 01:08:20 AM
Quote
- Nintendo may consider letting the Metroid series cool for awhile after support for the franchise seems to be waning
I swear I will tar and feather every moron who accused Other M of being sexist...  Because GOD FORBID a female game character should be concerned with anything other than killing stuff.

Well, I got a 3DS.  Strictly for getting MML3P next month.  Because I am a sucker.

Shame I have nothing to play on it in the meantime.

At least it looks pretty?
I assume you're not into fighters, since that's the easy recommendation?

Pilotwings (flying), Ridge Racer (driving), and Rabbids In Time (platforming) are all solid, though I agree the definitive "killer app" has yet to arrive.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on April 28, 2011, 09:31:23 AM
(http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/SFBundle.jpg)

WHY ISN'T THIS REAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL?  B(
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Fxeni on April 28, 2011, 05:29:18 PM
(http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/SFBundle.jpg)

WHY ISN'T THIS REAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL?  B(
It would kick too much ass, that's why.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on April 28, 2011, 09:06:53 PM
(http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/SFBundle.jpg)

WHY ISN'T THIS REAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL?  B(

(http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc288/Superdee100/zeldabox.jpg?t=1304017536)

I think it's clear which one is superior. 8D
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on April 29, 2011, 01:53:45 AM
A Hyrule-branded system 3 months after launch?  That would be a kick in the nads to early adopters.

Still awesome, though.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on April 29, 2011, 05:05:21 AM
I'll take either one! XD
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on April 29, 2011, 06:32:25 PM
http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=156734

Quote
Through the system update scheduled for around the end of May, we will be enhancing the network services, including Nintendo eShop and Internet Browser. Since Nintendo eShop will work as the basis of various network services, we will be able to propose new services to users through "SpotPass." However, for the system update, we need to have consumers voluntarily go online with their Nintendo 3DS. We are planning to do some promotional activities in order to urge them to do so. More specifically, we will give a free download of "ExciteBike" as one of the "3D Classics" series during a certain period of time after the beginning of the system update. We would like to announce this widely and have as many people as possible update their hardware and start using Nintendo eShop. Concerning the Virtual Console software, we will begin with GameBoy and GameBoy Color software, and continue with this until we gradually realize the Virtual Console software for the other platforms." - Satoru Iwata

And some confirmed info from Nintendo's official site
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/library/events/110426/06.html

flagjp May 19 = DEAD OR ALIVE Dimensions
flagjp May 26 = ONE PIECE Unlimited Cruise Special
flagjp June 2 = RESIDENT EVIL: THE MERCENARIES 3D (Biohazard: The Mercenaries 3D)
flagjp June 16 = The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (Zelda no Densetsu: Toki no Ocarina 3D)
flagjp June 30 = TALES OF THE ABYSS
flagjp July 14 = Star Fox 64 3D
flagjp After summer this year = Kid Icarus: Uprising (Shin Hikari Shinwa: Palutena no Kagami)

Super Mario 3DS at E3 (of course).
Mario Kart 3DS is coming this year too~
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Jericho on April 29, 2011, 07:06:05 PM
http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=156734

And some confirmed info from Nintendo's official site
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/library/events/110426/06.html

flagjp May 19 = DEAD OR ALIVE Dimensions
flagjp May 26 = ONE PIECE Unlimited Cruise Special
flagjp June 2 = RESIDENT EVIL: THE MERCENARIES 3D (Biohazard: The Mercenaries 3D)
flagjp June 16 = The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (Zelda no Densetsu: Toki no Ocarina 3D)
flagjp June 30 = TALES OF THE ABYSS
flagjp July 14 = Star Fox 64 3D
flagjp After summer this year = Kid Icarus: Uprising (Shin Hikari Shinwa: Palutena no Kagami)

Super Mario 3DS at E3 (of course).
Mario Kart 3DS is coming this year too~

This game list is [tornado fang]ing impressive for half of year one. :o
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on April 29, 2011, 10:31:51 PM
Jelly, you know I'm with you on the StarTropics love.

Also, that is a damn impressive list.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VirusChris on May 02, 2011, 03:27:27 AM
(http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc288/Superdee100/zeldabox.jpg?t=1304017536)

I think it's clear which one is superior. 8D


Ah, god dang!!! If I didn't already want the red 3DS now I want that... sheesh, that's evil! Both the Star Fox and Zelda 3DS system look awesome!

http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=156734

And some confirmed info from Nintendo's official site
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/library/events/110426/06.html

flagjp May 19 = DEAD OR ALIVE Dimensions
flagjp May 26 = ONE PIECE Unlimited Cruise Special
flagjp June 2 = RESIDENT EVIL: THE MERCENARIES 3D (Biohazard: The Mercenaries 3D)
flagjp June 16 = The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (Zelda no Densetsu: Toki no Ocarina 3D)
flagjp June 30 = TALES OF THE ABYSS
flagjp July 14 = Star Fox 64 3D
flagjp After summer this year = Kid Icarus: Uprising (Shin Hikari Shinwa: Palutena no Kagami)

Super Mario 3DS at E3 (of course).
Mario Kart 3DS is coming this year too~

I know 4 of those games I want for my 3DS:
Dead or Alive: Dimensions
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Tales of the Abyss 3DS (since it's confirmed for a US release this Fall)
Star Fox 64 3DS


Ah, I remember the days I played Star Fox 64. I love that game too death and I enjoy going through the hidden routes to the hard mode, or the left side of the planets, to fight Star Wolf, fight underwater, complete challenges, and fighting Andross in his true final form and escaping the planet.

That one was a blast, and I made it more dramatic but slamming my ship to the sides to break of the wings to show Star Fox making it out barely alive like action heroes escaping by the skin of their teeth when escaping explosions.

I still have gonna any of the other Star Fox games, but I did rent and beat the Dinosaur Planet one, like the DS one or played the original.
I really like to see a new Star Fox game coming soon... hopefully for "Project: Cafe".

I want to soar and battle in the sky in my Arwing! (If I remember the name correctly).
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 02, 2011, 05:26:12 AM
(http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/SFBundle.jpg)
(http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc288/Superdee100/zeldabox.jpg?t=1304017536)

(http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/8310/zeldaboxart.jpg)
(http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/1613/rebundle3ds.jpg)

HNNNNNNNG

I want all of these!
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on May 02, 2011, 06:14:16 AM
I want one that Says "START" next to the power button.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Flame on May 02, 2011, 06:44:44 AM
haha, a bloody 3DS? Thats actually pretty neat.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on May 02, 2011, 07:40:23 AM
Please be StarTropics, please be StarTropics, please be StarTropics, please be Startropics...

I hear that. That would be one hell of a revived franchise title. If Punch Out can, so can this!!
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on May 04, 2011, 12:58:51 AM
Punch-Out was one of those games that was well worth it, but could have easily been greater.  It overdosed on the memorization, rewards you for sucking excessively, and it was set up with insufficient replay options (I have to start a new save file to hear Mac's versions of the fight theme?!).

Startropics revival would be awesome, indeed.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Reaperoid on May 05, 2011, 12:44:47 PM
http://2phan.tumblr.com/post/5022489606/no-seriously-nintendo-why-you-better-make-this
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Flame on May 05, 2011, 01:20:29 PM
I recall there being a slider to increase or decrease the 3D.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Reaperoid on May 05, 2011, 01:22:34 PM
Uhh, it's about not being able to keep that 3D sweet spot
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Align on May 05, 2011, 01:37:13 PM
The slider is for calibrating view distance, I thought?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on May 05, 2011, 03:43:37 PM
The slider just intensifies the 3D effect. It does NOT change the view focus ranges.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on May 05, 2011, 04:58:04 PM
To be more specific about what the 3D slider does, it moves the images that are sent to your eyes further apart. The image that goes to your right eye moves further to the right and the one that goes to your left eye moves to the left, and when it's off they're both on top of each other.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Align on May 06, 2011, 12:19:12 AM
It SOUNDS like it can be used for calibrating view distance, but maybe I'm just having trouble visualizing it...
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on May 06, 2011, 12:28:36 AM
Imagine that the higher the 3D slider goes, the more depth the image gets.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on May 06, 2011, 12:29:34 AM
"Image" is a bit ambiguous.  Solar is referring to the in-game camera angles.  The further the two camera angles are from each other, the greater the sense of depth.  That's what the 3D slider controls.

As OBJECTION MAN said, the focus range of the screen never changes.  Imagine a plain 2D game, your camera controls don't affect your TV's viewing angle.  Same thing.

This is easily observable by viewing 3D photos.  Since your camera-angle is fixed in place (that is the angle of the 3DS's cameras when you took the photo), the 3D slider does absolutely nothing except flip the effect on or off, no effect on intensity.

and when it's off they're both on top of each other.
Actually, when it's off, the game renders only a single image (crapass games such as Asphalt do a better job of holding their framerate, and allegedly the battery life improves slightly).  The "barrier" in the screen switches off so that it functions as a normal screen; you'll notice it gets slightly brighter.

Back to Mario Kart, I don't think that Nintendo is so foolish as to apply ONLY a tilt-sensitive control.  Even MKWii had GCN controller support, and the 3DS has a lot more issues than the Wii in terms of ergonomics (3D or no 3D, not everyone is comfortable tilting their screen to steer).  They tried "whacky controls only" with Star Fox Command, and I'd like to think they learned their lesson.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on May 06, 2011, 12:37:29 AM
Yeah, you explain it better than I do, I've never been good at speaking about technology and stuff =P

Quote
Actually, when it's off, the game renders only a single image (crapass games such as Asphalt do a better job of holding their framerate, and allegedly the battery life improves slightly). 

Oh yeah, my bad. I knew that so I dunno why I even said that. Also, yes, it should improve the battery life because of that and, correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the screen also go brighter? At least that's what it looks like to me in SSF4. Also, all games that I know of so far get a better framerate with 3D off (SSF4 and DoA go from 60 to 30) unless they were 30 already.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on May 06, 2011, 12:45:51 AM
I hadn't noticed, but it's very possible.  How a game responds to the 3D switch, obviously, depends on the game.  It's certainly conceivable that one may want to boost their framerate when they're rendering one less image.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on May 06, 2011, 12:50:14 AM
You know, that must be why OoT only goes up to 30fps, so that it will be consistent for both 3D and without it.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Align on May 06, 2011, 01:08:33 AM
"Image" is a bit ambiguous.  Solar is referring to the in-game camera angles.  The further the two camera angles are from each other, the greater the sense of depth.  That's what the 3D slider controls.
Aaaahh..
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on May 06, 2011, 01:15:58 AM
Also, all games that I know of so far get a better framerate with 3D off (SSF4 and DoA go from 60 to 30) unless they were 30 already.

Yeah, those two games drop to 30 when the 3D is on. For SSF4, i usually have the 3D setting on in the options menu and drop the slider down when i play a match. Doing this activates anti-aliasing and it's pretty noticeable from the somewhat "jaggy" 60 framerate gameplay.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on May 06, 2011, 04:13:54 AM
You know, that must be why OoT only goes up to 30fps, so that it will be consistent for both 3D and without it.

That is one of the worst F***ing excuses for not using a higher framerate I've ever heard. And it's not even your fault. Companies use it all the time and people accept it. If we weren't so obsesses with being the tipity top of the graphics for screenshots and meaningless comparisons, maybe companies would actually aim for a solid 60FPS instead of pretending like 60FPS is this horribly impossible number. It's like saying "I didn't get a B+ on my last test, because I'd rather have a consistent C- for every test."

Considering we're hitting a graphics quality plateau, maybe companies will start aiming for 60FPs again. Then again, we're getting to the point where 120Hz Monitors are somewhat affordable, but at least 60FPS is acceptable and 120 is a luxury. 30FPS should have never been acceptable.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Align on May 06, 2011, 12:35:02 PM
/me nods in agreement
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Flame on May 06, 2011, 04:51:40 PM
That is one of the worst F***ing excuses for not using a higher framerate I've ever heard. And it's not even your fault. Companies use it all the time and people accept it. If we weren't so obsesses with being the tipity top of the graphics for screenshots and meaningless comparisons, maybe companies would actually aim for a solid 60FPS instead of pretending like 60FPS is this horribly impossible number. It's like saying "I didn't get a B+ on my last test, because I'd rather have a consistent C- for every test."

Considering we're hitting a graphics quality plateau, maybe companies will start aiming for 60FPs again. Then again, we're getting to the point where 120Hz Monitors are somewhat affordable, but at least 60FPS is acceptable and 120 is a luxury. 30FPS should have never been acceptable.

I think we just might need a slow clap.gif over here.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on May 06, 2011, 07:56:17 PM
Yeah, the 30fps thing is a horrible trend. I'm really not pleased to see that 3DS developers are embracing 30fps across the board. It's making me NOT use the 3D aspect of the console, the very selling point of it. Games like SSFIV I'm having a hard time playing with the 3D on, since timing is the key. With 30fps my fighting reaction times and timing are severely impacted.

It's almost making me regret getting the 3DS, if all the games are going to be this shitty. More and more I wish Legends 3 was never set to be a 3DS title.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on May 06, 2011, 11:24:26 PM
It was probably cheaper to develop for.

I hope NGP sees at least one Megaman and one Castlevania game.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on May 07, 2011, 12:48:48 AM
Launch trends may not be the norm for the console life span.  I think anyone who believed otherwise wouldn't have picked up a 3DS to begin with (again, crummy library).

Considering we're hitting a graphics quality plateau, maybe companies will start aiming for 60FPs again. Then again, we're getting to the point where 120Hz Monitors are somewhat affordable, but at least 60FPS is acceptable and 120 is a luxury. 30FPS should have never been acceptable.
I'm nowhere near as passionate about this as you (I only consider high framerates critical in games that have high movement speed; certainly more so than Zelda), but I do see your point.  It is a bit sad, considering we had graphically impressive 60fps games ever since Dreamcast.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Flame on May 07, 2011, 03:05:46 AM
More and more I wish Legends 3 was never set to be a 3DS title.
It should have been a console game IMO. Like Wii, or hell, Wii 2/Cafe/whatever they will call it.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on May 07, 2011, 03:23:34 AM
I'm glad it's on 3DS, actually.  One of the main reasons Capcom said they went with the 3DS is because they're going after the "early adopter" audience, in light of the previous Legends games not doing as well as Cappy feels they should have.  They're going after people who don't have as many games to choose from as a 5th-year-Wii owner, so that L3 doesn't get lost in the crowd.  At current, the game STILL hasn't gotten the final green-light yet, but two things on the 3DS are still working in L3's favor:

1. Development costs are surely a lot more fair than the NGP, the Cafe, or whatever the hell Microsoft is rumored to be working on.  That's a significant plus when convincing the big-wigs to take a gamble on an underdog series revival.  Hell, based on cost alone, the Wii is the only other contender, and that window is rapidly closing.

2. While it's doubtful the final game is going to hit before Nintendo (if noone else) gets their software ducks in a row, the Prototype demo being an e-Shop launch title is definitely going to be a blessing, in terms of grabbing attention.  The e-Shop launches this month, and what other titles have we heard of?  ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, which is what you are about to become, other than Virtual Console and 3D classics (as in, ports).  And given the DSi Shop's track record there's no reason to expect much.  In terms of downloadable games, I think L3P is going to be the definite king of the hill for a while.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 07, 2011, 07:59:00 AM
Also, think about this. If the Wii 2 is as connected to the 3DS as we all hope it's gonna be, there's a good chance you might get to play it on the big screen as well.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Flame on May 07, 2011, 08:03:03 AM
That would be neat actually. Ninty never gave us a DS player for the Wii, (which they should have after the GBA player, IMO)  but to be able to just hook one up to the other and play? that would be pretty sweet.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 07, 2011, 08:30:00 AM
I'd really like to think that's where they are going with the Wii 2. If not having a DS/3DS slot in the system itself, than being able to stream it to the big screen.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on May 07, 2011, 09:07:44 AM
I'm liking this 3DS on the TV talk. I was hoping Sony was going to do that with the PSP to the PS3. I would have gotten a PS3 a hell of a lot earlier if that was the case.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on May 07, 2011, 09:50:00 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v90/xnamkcor/ngp_under2.png)

There has to be HDMI in there somewhere. Clap if you believe!

PS:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v90/xnamkcor/ngp_undera.png)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 07, 2011, 10:46:16 AM
Well if we are to go by the rumors at this point, the two that support the theory are...

-Touch Screen built into controller
-3DS also can be used as a controller

Just going by those two alone, I think it'd be in Nintendo's best interest to make the interconnectivity between the two. I mean, if the console and the handheld were both more interconnected, it might help sales of both. Plus, as mentioned before with the Super Gameboy and the GC Adapter, Nintendo has been known to do this before and for the most part has been met with good results.

I just think it makes the most logical sense for the Wii 2 to try to cater to every fan possible, from the handheld fans who want to play their games on the big screen (and possibly record them XD) to the casual & new Wii crowd (as another rumor suggests WiiMotes can be used with the new system) as well as try to cater to the hardcore crowd with new StarFox, StarTropics, and F-Zero games as well more 3rd party support, like Zone of the Enders 3!  8D
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on May 07, 2011, 03:12:09 PM
The main issue as I see it would be the little-used oddball features such as the cameras, mic, and gyroscope; limiting compatibility.  Still, "3DS as a controller" would solve all that, and even with the Cafe alone it would open up quite a few titles to the living room.

I too was hoping such a feature would eventually hit the Wii, though admittedly that may have been a bit more awkward (harder to substitute the touch-screen, less solid trends as to which screen is the "main" one, and the occasional "book" style game; all things that make less of an impact on the Cafe and 3DS).  It may or may not hit the Cafe, but one has to admit the potential there is much greater, seeings now Nintendo is effectively giving us a multi-screened home console.

Which reminds me, Cafe seriously needs Four Swords.  I can't imagine Nintendo NOT working on that one.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Krystal on May 07, 2011, 03:44:38 PM
Hey guys hey guys it's the same game you loved/hated...IN 3D.

I sorta hate how the 3DS is the best excuse evah to do that.
In my opinion it feels like Nintendo is finally bringing all their 'gimmicky' ideas together, with new things. You know, motion sensing handheld, motion sensing controller, touch screen handheld, touch screen controller. How could using the handheld as a controller be anything but a great idea? =w=
Book styled games are designed to be played on the DS only. They wouldn't be the same on a big screen. I mean, you tried reading a book on the TV? It doesn't have the same rustic feel.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on May 07, 2011, 05:34:57 PM
Which reminds me, Cafe seriously needs Four Swords.  I can't imagine Nintendo NOT working on that one.

We have needed a new Four Swords since the DS =(
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on May 07, 2011, 09:42:47 PM
I'm gonna disagree with the 3DS working as the controller.

Nintendo is probably going to go for a capacitive touch pad for the Cafe controller. If they release a alternate 3DS model with a capacitive touch screen, that might work.

PS: Would someone, please, make a device to lock the screen in place. Like a sort of brace.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on May 10, 2011, 01:30:54 AM
I don't understand your premise, for two reasons:

1. By what logic would Nintendo employ a more expensive technology for their home console?  If anything it's that much more detrimental seeings how controllers are a "peripheral" that ideally a gamer should be buying more than one of, and the screen/streaming tech alone will likely raise cost concerns.

2. Why exactly do you suggest that a capacitive touch screen could substitute for a resistive touch screen, but not vice-versa?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on May 10, 2011, 03:26:06 AM
I don't understand your premise, for two reasons:

1. By what logic would Nintendo employ a more expensive technology for their home console?  If anything it's that much more detrimental seeings how controllers are a "peripheral" that ideally a gamer should be buying more than one of, and the screen/streaming tech alone will likely raise cost concerns.

2. Why exactly do you suggest that a capacitive touch screen could substitute for a resistive touch screen, but not vice-versa?

There is the problem of how each works and the accuracy and ease of either.

The resistive is what DS uses and the 3DS almost needs to use one due to the accuracy needed by the resistive touch screen.

Given the chance to use either for a controller, capacitive is best due to the ease of use. You can use your finger and you can maintain contact, while moving, a lot easier.

If Nintendo wants to try to use the 3DS as it is now for a controller, they will run into the problems the resistive touch screen has.

If a consumer is willing to forgo complete NDS touch screen "sameness", they can get a 3DS with a capacitive touch and that would work as a controller for the Cafe, but then all the games for 3DS that use and expect the resistive screen would have to be programmed twice for either method. It wouldn't be that hard though.

tl;dr
The only reason 3DS has Resistive Touch is for compatibility with NDS games. Given the chance to use either, Capacitive Touch has way too many more advantages for use as a controller.


PS: I can go into detail on any part I may have overlooked, just specify.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Kieran on May 10, 2011, 02:37:30 PM
You know, aside from the fact that using a capacitive touch screen would be detrimental in more ways than one.  For example, higher cost and the need to use special, more expensive styluses.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on May 10, 2011, 07:14:38 PM
Fingers are free.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on May 11, 2011, 12:12:39 AM
Not everyone wants to smudge/scratch their screens, and fingers still work on resistive screens.  Yes, there's a greater need to maintain pressure, but it still works.

Inconvenient?  Perhaps, but then there's the issue of accuracy.  Not only technological (for which capacitive is inferior), but also ergonomical.  I might agree with your point if we were talking about a full-size monitor.  But a controller's screen is going to be relatively small, even if not as small as a DS's.  Take it from someone who prefers to leave their stylus tucked away safely: fingers simply do not provide the level of accuracy that you will often need on such a small scale.  And sure as hell not MY fingers (ask PB).

If a consumer is willing to forgo complete NDS touch screen "sameness", they can get a 3DS with a capacitive touch and that would work as a controller for the Cafe, but then all the games for 3DS that use and expect the resistive screen would have to be programmed twice for either method. It wouldn't be that hard though.
Actually, it is EXCEPTIONALLY difficult, given that you're talking about a system that's already out.  Even Nintendo lacks the ability to time-travel; what you're suggesting would be impossible without cutting off older projects, thus fragmenting the userbase.  Even if that is overcome, backwards compatability is a pretty major point of most Nintendo handhelds and is especially so with the 3DS (given that they're opening it up to DSiWare and never-before-done-by-Nintendo system transfers; they'd have to rework the e-Shop to detect and accommodate the specific 3DS model, and nobody's going to like taking their latest piece of hardware online to find out that their hardware forbids them access to certain online content).

It's generally not good press for compatibility to vary by the individual SKU, as Sony learned (we hope) the hard way with the PS3.

Even assuming for the sake of argument that Nintendo is going to use a capacitive screen, it would be CONSIDERABLY easier to "program twice" for the Cafe, which is not yet in the public's hands, than for the 3DS, which already is.  Further the Cafe has no backwards compatibility issues with regards to touch sensitivity; no Wii game uses it.

tl;dr
Your premise is questionable, but at least possible.  Your work-around is completely illogical.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on May 11, 2011, 12:49:14 AM
I don't know why Nintendo would use resistive for Cafe. They have no obligation for backwards compatibility, like the 3DS. The cost is higher, but Capacitive lends itself better to blind touching than Resistive. I'm all for Resistive in applications where you are looking at the surface and need to touch an exact spot. but this is going to be a controller.

If Nintendo did the NDS a hundred times over, each time it would choose Resistive touch, and I would agree with that, but for the Cafe, I don't see it being the best method.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on May 11, 2011, 01:22:24 AM
You're speculating as to what level of accuracy is acceptable.  It's a controller with a screen, hence you will be looking at it.  Maybe not in every application, but at some point, you will.  If the Cafe controller were meant solely for "blind touch", it would use a pad akin to a laptop rather than a screen that shows streamed content from the console.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on May 11, 2011, 01:28:26 AM
I'm just gonna mention D.I.Y. Showcase and leave...
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on May 12, 2011, 03:40:39 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/cSFMw.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/cSFMw.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on May 12, 2011, 07:39:46 AM
Looks like the May update went from being the May Update to the June Update, or as I'd like to call it, the E3 Update

http://www.nintendo.com/whatsnew/detail/6ANlirylYehWRAOQn_i0e53E0XtWMk4s

June 6 NA
June 7 JP
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VirusChris on May 12, 2011, 08:15:46 AM
Wait... so we're not getting the eShop until June!?

Though I don't mind the wait, though I'm a little worried about the Mega Man Legends 3 demo? It's going to be push back now, right, since there's no point of releasing it to a store that isn't available to be access.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on May 13, 2011, 12:03:52 AM
June 6 NA
First reaction:
(http://mysite.verizon.net/Serpentara/steamroller.jpg)



Second reaction:
Well, it's only one week from the vague "end of May" statement we had earlier.  Plus, I'm off that Monday. 8)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on May 13, 2011, 12:57:39 AM
It's gonna be June 6 in the evening, so it's not gonna make THAT much of a difference depending on when you get out of work >.>
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on May 13, 2011, 11:31:12 PM
Evening in Pacific Time, to boot.  Well, I'll be......well rested.  >.>

Anyways, for those watching DOA Dimensions, Yosuke Hayashi confirmed that there will be no playable Samus.
Quote
...for DOAD our aim was to have a compilation of DOA characters so we purposely left out any new or guest characters in the game. Samus is a lone bounty hunter and protector of the galaxy so we thought it would be better to let her focus on her job rather than kicking everyone's butt in DOAD.
http://ds.ign.com/articles/116/1168043p1.html

Sadness, but I guess watching Ridley mangle my opponents after they're knocked over the edge will have to do.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on May 14, 2011, 01:01:58 AM
Evening in Pacific Time, to boot.  Well, I'll be......well rested.  >.>

Anyways, for those watching DOA Dimensions, Yosuke Hayashi confirmed that there will be no playable Samus.http://ds.ign.com/articles/116/1168043p1.html

Sadness, but I guess watching Ridley mangle my opponents after they're knocked over the edge will have to do.

Thats a terrible excuse and they know it, nothing wrong with a guest fighter here and there.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on May 14, 2011, 04:29:43 AM
No argument from me.  I don't see how a guest fighter would detract from focus anymore than a crossover stage.

Maybe Team Ninja just didn't want to rock the whole "betraying Samus's image" bitchery boat anymore?  After all, the general public considers this woman, who strips down to her underwear as a reward for fast explorers, to be the highest order of gaming's non-sexualized female role-models; we can't have anyone tarnishing such purity again.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on May 14, 2011, 06:59:23 AM
Thats a terrible excuse and they know it, nothing wrong with a guest fighter here and there.

Tell that to Soul Calibur players.

But yeah, BS excuse.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on May 14, 2011, 02:33:50 PM
Zero Suit in DOA would be off the charts hot and everyone knows it.

COUNT ME DISAPPOINTED.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Flame on May 14, 2011, 06:17:39 PM
And we can all thank the people who bitched over Other M for that, ladies and gents.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on May 15, 2011, 03:55:15 AM
Tell that to Soul Calibur players.

But yeah, BS excuse.

Ok, the Yoda/DV thing was a little uncalled for in SCIV. Its kinda difficult to understand why or how they got in.

But Samus in DOA, not having that is a missed opportunity, jiggly boobs + Zero Suit= HNNGH.

But I digress.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on May 15, 2011, 04:17:42 AM
Ok, the Yoda/DV thing was a little uncalled for in SCIV. Its kinda difficult to understand why or how they got in.

But Samus in DOA, not having that is a missed opportunity, jiggly boobs + Zero Suit= HNNGH.

But I digress.

Heart Attacks are the most popular digressions.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on May 21, 2011, 03:47:58 AM
Didn't feel like updating the Kid Icarus thread since this is a little insignificant. Nintendo launched (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/3ds/akdj/index.html) a teaser site for Kid Icarus Uprising with some really kickass music, which you can download here. (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HF7Y05S6)

There's a lengthy gameplay/tutorial video on the site (left link), but might as well post a youtube link as well:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGPg7j2amRc[/youtube]

While it still looks fun, i can't honestly say that i haven't lost a lot of interest.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on May 21, 2011, 04:07:49 AM
Didn't feel like updating the Kid Icarus thread since this is a little insignificant. Nintendo launched (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/3ds/akdj/index.html) a teaser site for Kid Icarus Uprising with some really kickass music, which you can download here. (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HF7Y05S6)

There's a lengthy gameplay/tutorial video on the site (left link), but might as well post a youtube link as well:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGPg7j2amRc[/youtube]

While it still looks fun, i can't honestly say that i haven't lost a lot of interest.

Why is Pit in a Starfox game?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on May 21, 2011, 04:29:59 AM
Welcome to E3 2010...

Game still looks gorgeous, glad to see that.  Most of the video is stuff we already knew, though the Smash Bros. run mechanic is nice, ought to keep things a lot more active than Metroid Prime Hunters.  Art is lovely.
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Post by: Fxeni on May 21, 2011, 07:32:08 PM
Why is Pit in a Starfox game?
Only finding out now eh? :P

Still looks like fun to me, although I'm still worried about the camera control on the touch screen. They should have a way to center the camera behind the way Pit is facing, maybe an icon like the one they use for inverting the flight controls.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on May 22, 2011, 12:34:04 AM
That's...not a bad idea.  Little late now, though.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on June 01, 2011, 05:58:38 AM
Quote
Pokédex 3D, featuring all of the new Pokémon from the recent Pokémon Black and White games, will allow users to look up information about more than 150 Pokémon and their moves, all for free. It will make use of SpotPass and Augmented Reality.

Players start with 16 Pokémon and can unlock the remaining Pokédex entries by scanning QR Codes, using SpotPass (up to three random Pokémon a day), or by trading data with friends, likely via StreetPass.

Users will be able to view each Pokémon in 3D, and rotate them a full 360 degrees. The Pokédex features filters and bookmarking capabilities as well.

The app will use the 3DS' built-in Augmented Reality capabilities to display Pokémon in pictures taken via the 3DS Camera.
http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/26460

Pics at source

Want because of the bolded D:

Also, it's free so no real reason not to get it honestly.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on June 02, 2011, 03:04:53 AM
I'd [sonic slicer] about the limited selection of 'mans, except that it's free.  So, what the heck?  May as well kill some SD card space.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on June 02, 2011, 07:04:57 PM
North American eShop launch lineup (http://3ds.nintendolife.com/news/2011/06/north_america_these_eshop_games_await_you_next_week)
European eShop launch lineup (http://3ds.nintendolife.com/news/2011/06/europe_this_is_your_eshop_launch_day_line_up)



A quote from the VC/Ware thread, with the Japanese launch lineup. (Also a NintendoLife source (http://3ds.nintendolife.com/news/2011/06/heres_japans_3ds_eshop_launch_day_line_up))

A good list of games to download at launch! (http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/06/02/3ds_eshop_lineup/)

Virtual Console
~ Rockman World (Mega Man in Dr. Wily's Revenge) (Capcom, Game Boy, 400 yen) <- yay~ <3
~ Kirby's Dream Land (Nintendo, Game Boy, 400 yen)
~ Baseball (Nintendo, Game Boy, 300 yen)
~ Phantasm (Jaleco, Game Boy, 400 yen)
~ Downtown Special Kunio-kun no Jidaigeki Dayo Zenin Shuugou! (Arc, Game Boy, 400 yen)
~ Super Mario Land (Nintendo, Game Boy, 400 yen)

3D Classics (Old games remade with 3D effects)
~ Xevious (Nintendo, 600 yen)
~ Excitebike (Nintendo, 600 yen, free through 7/31)

Original Games / 3DSWare
~ Mystery P.I Kieta Film (G Mode, 600 yen)
~ 3D Block Kuzushi (Silverstar Japan, 500 yen)

Hopefully the rest of the Rockman games will show up too. ^^

Posted on: June 02, 2011, 15:35:48
Wow, they really remade most of the 2D objects into 3D objects, with 3D view, you can see it better in Excitebike.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6flZrWasEY[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6flZrWasEY

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5yeV4wQTRY[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5yeV4wQTRY

I'm excited to see what the other classics, like Rockman, will look like~

And the Prepaid Cards.

More about the prepaid cards here~ (http://www.4gamer.net/games/107/G010761/20110602027/)

(http://i.imgur.com/GwvDy.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/GwvDy.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/CP55v.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/CP55v.jpg)

I dunno why no "Mega Man" on the NA/EU side yet. Licensing? Nintendo's approval needed? >u<;
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on June 02, 2011, 08:19:54 PM
Did I just see Rockman GB games on the Jap VC?

Ahem...

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!  8)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on June 03, 2011, 03:55:38 AM
I dunno why no "Mega Man" on the NA/EU side yet. Licensing? Nintendo's approval needed? >u<;
I'm wondering that too.  They'd better fix it pretty darn quick!

So, for free, Excitebike, Pokedex, and web browser.  Sweet.  I may hold off on actually paying for any further games until I see some blue bomber up there, though.  Mario Land's awesome, but I'm not sure I want to pay 4 bucks for a version I cannot hack to play as Daisy. :V  On the other hand, I do kinda miss Alleyway...

EDITS: Also, Nintendolife seems to have some palette errors in their screenshots (http://3dsvc.nintendolife.com/screenshots/19529).  I certainly hope the 3DS VC will do a better job than that. XD
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on June 03, 2011, 03:21:01 PM
I'm wondering that too.  They'd better fix it pretty darn quick!

They just did~ (I don't think it's at launch tho) (http://www.esrb.org/ratings/search.jsp)
Search for "Mega Man" and the platform to "Nintendo 3DS".
Wait long enough and all 5 GB Mega Man games should be on 3DS soon, I hope. ^^
And who knows, maybe we will see the "Mega Man Xtreme" games too~ :3
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on June 03, 2011, 07:59:57 PM
3 days for Shantae DS! (Sorry, I'm actually more excited to play this than any of the Megaman VC titles.)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on June 03, 2011, 08:05:26 PM
3 days for Shantae DS!

Yay~!
Try and beat in less than 2 hours (any %, not 100%) for something good. ^^
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on June 03, 2011, 10:07:17 PM
And who knows, maybe we will see the "Mega Man Xtreme" games too~ :3
PB still won't play them. :P
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on June 03, 2011, 10:57:26 PM
That he will not.  But I would KILL for Xtreme2 on my 3DS. 8)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Reaperoid on June 04, 2011, 07:16:12 AM
I'm surprised that there's no details on enhancing regular GB games in a basic fashion (ie. move Layer 0 back, Layer 1~3 forwards in certain amounts, etc), because it looks to me like the 3D Classics line is made to set up particular objects backwards or forwards

Then again, not everything has to be in 3D...
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on June 04, 2011, 07:48:40 AM
It's not that simple. Especially since GB games have one background layer, and 2 sprite layers only. It simply wouldn't work.

Even on other games/consoles, the way layers are utilized and the way graphics processors are used to create advanced effects would completely shatter that kind of blanket effect from ever working. It really has to be redone if you want a workable 3D effect.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on June 04, 2011, 09:37:33 AM
I'm surprised that there's no details on enhancing regular GB games in a basic fashion (ie. move Layer 0 back, Layer 1~3 forwards in certain amounts, etc), because it looks to me like the 3D Classics line is made to set up particular objects backwards or forwards

Then again, not everything has to be in 3D...

Like Objection Man said, the GB doesn't have that many layers.

You'd get better results from auto converting an SNES game.

I still think it'd be fun to try to code an emulator to use a 3D rendering engine to reproduce enhanced HDMA and Mode-7 effects.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on June 04, 2011, 04:33:47 PM
That settles it, we need F-Zero 3D...

It's not that simple. Especially since GB games have one background layer, and 2 sprite layers only. It simply wouldn't work.

Even on other games/consoles, the way layers are utilized and the way graphics processors are used to create advanced effects would completely shatter that kind of blanket effect from ever working. It really has to be redone if you want a workable 3D effect.
He speaks the truth.  Remember how the GBC/A would color objects and backgrounds differently in GB games?  That's about as far as you'd get in terms of layering.  In basically any platformer your character would be further forward than the ground.

On any system advanced enough to have multiple scrolling backgrounds (the only way this theory is worth anything), there are simply too many tricks it can pull that will break it.  Just off the top of my head, on SNES, the rotating/resizing that goes on in Super Mario World and Super Metroid.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Reaperoid on June 04, 2011, 04:55:04 PM
Sure, was only a example for the sake of examples (perhaps I should have stated that more clearly), but the SGB effect in terms of depth instead of colours was what I had in mind.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on June 04, 2011, 07:55:33 PM
I wouldn't see the point to remaking Xtreme 1 (unless you change the levels and such), but how would you feel about a full on 3DS Xtreme 2 remake?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Align on June 04, 2011, 07:58:45 PM
They could remake Xtreme 1 to not suck.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on June 04, 2011, 08:26:44 PM
Sure, was only a example for the sake of examples (perhaps I should have stated that more clearly), but the SGB effect in terms of depth instead of colours was what I had in mind.

You mean have a frame and have the game appear to be inside the frame as a 2D layer?
That might work, but I think we'd rather just have the game.

Maybe they can add some options to the bottom screen so you could adjust overall appearant distance and distance between each layer. It might never look good, but it would give you the option.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on June 05, 2011, 04:48:38 AM
I wouldn't see the point to remaking Xtreme 1 (unless you change the levels and such), but how would you feel about a full on 3DS Xtreme 2 remake?
Need you ask?  It'd be fan-gasmic!
However, given Capcom's track record on the Wii's VC, I'll consider getting the final X-series handheld on 3DS in any form to be nothing short of miraculous.  And, it'll be a long wait, with its predecessor and the entire World series most likely in line before it.

They could remake Xtreme 1 to not suck.
Xtreme1 has too much that needs fixing and not enough benefit to reap for fixing it, given that the game did virtually nothing original.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on June 05, 2011, 05:09:33 AM
It had Zain, and Geemel, and, uh, its own weakness cycle, and, uh, and you could summon Zero, and, and, you could do the SF techniques with any health.

...ok, yeah, almost nothing original. Honestly, I don't think Xtreme sucks (one of my most replayed games), but since it pretty much does nothing of its own there's not much reason for its existence.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on June 05, 2011, 05:34:10 AM
Well... a Mega Man game that "sucks" tends to be pretty average/tolerable compared to what else is out there.

However, besides this:
since it pretty much does nothing of its own there's not much reason for its existence.
there is also:

-Excessively high pitched instruments (aka Rockman World 2 syndrome)

-Writing replays into the story.  Seriously?

-The armor does almost nothing.

-Lack of dash access (Start does not work for actual hardware, though I guess it helps in emulation)



Basically anything Xtreme1 did, right or wrong, Xtreme2 did better.  The stages have splashes of originality while still retaining heavy tributes.  The final boss is not lifted from a previous game, nor are the other two "giant" bosses.  The music's better.  The armor's better.  The cutscenes are better.  Dashing is better thanks to easy air-dashing with proper momentum (take that, PS1).  The big tank and the final boss emphasize teamwork between X and Zero.  Later staples of X/Zero/ZX were first presented here (Scramble Change, Shadow Dash, walking/dashing saber attacks, aerial saber projectiles, and even Model OX's OIS buster).  It's the only portable game other than ZX1 to feature playable Zero with Earth Gaizer (pretty sad that a 4-game "Zero series" can't challenge that).  Xtreme1's Mavericks are thrown in for shits and giggles, and Gareth and Berkana pretty much kick the crap out of Zain and Geemel.

Plus, Iris is in it. 8)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on June 05, 2011, 05:37:11 AM
-Excessively high pitched instruments (aka Rockman World 2 syndrome)

-Writing replays into the story.  Seriously?

-The armor does almost nothing.

-Lack of dash access (Select does not work for actual hardware, but I guess for emulators it helps)

-Honestly, they never bothered me.
- I thought it was nice >.>
-True
-To this day, I still don't know how I not only tolerated it, but actually found it comfortable and liked it. Yes, I do mean on a GBC.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on June 05, 2011, 07:27:13 AM
Guys, you're thinking in the wrong direction. Why not just;

Megaman Xtreme 3
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on June 05, 2011, 08:44:53 AM
As long as Lucas voices Zero.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Align on June 05, 2011, 12:58:20 PM
But it won't be the same without those stumpy sprites... They looked so cuddly, somehow.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on June 05, 2011, 04:49:21 PM
Guys, you're thinking in the wrong direction. Why not just;

Megaman Xtreme 3
No argument here.  It's just that PB needs an Xt2 remake for the sake of dash-wall-kicking, so that he can be assed to play it.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Align on June 06, 2011, 12:37:17 AM
To be honest I think airdashing everywhere might be part of the fun, since it means you're effectively flying 70% of the gameplay.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on June 06, 2011, 01:50:23 AM
No argument here.  It's just that PB needs an Xt2 remake for the sake of dash-wall-kicking, so that he can be assed to play it.

That's why you learn to command dash off walls.
Assuming the wall is "Forward"
   123456.........
f X  XX
b        XXXXXXXX
B      XXXXXXXXX

Edit: Just played it for a bit. It seems like you always dash jump off the walls. I'll have to explore more.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on June 06, 2011, 11:05:38 AM
Everyone with a 3DS should be getting a notification by now, saying that system update 2.0.0-2 (J/U/E) will be available sometime today. ^^

Go eShop and Internet Browser~ :cookie: :cookie:
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on June 06, 2011, 05:43:15 PM
I got mine at about 1:30AM last night.  Nintendo is such a tease with this.

That's why you learn to command dash off walls.
Assuming the wall is "Forward"
   123456.........
f X  XX
b        XXXXXXXX
B      XXXXXXXXX

Edit: Just played it for a bit. It seems like you always dash jump off the walls. I'll have to explore more.
In Xtreme1, the leg armor upgrade is an auto-dash-wall-kick (in addition to breaking walls by wall-kicking).

To be honest I think airdashing everywhere might be part of the fun, since it means you're effectively flying 70% of the gameplay.
Agreed.  That, and X firing a constant stream of charged shots.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on June 07, 2011, 05:04:55 AM
Still no update. It's June 6th. WHERE IS MY SHANTAE DS.
Title: 3DS Update is now up.
Post by: Solar on June 07, 2011, 06:36:36 AM
Is it sad I'm trying to update my 3DS every 10 or so minutes?

Posted on: June 06, 2011, 11:33:06 PM
WHY DO I FEEL SO EXCITED FOR SOMETHING AS SMALL AS THIS.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on June 07, 2011, 10:22:33 AM
I told you to wait at 7AM RPM/EU time because that's when updates show for VC/Ware on Wii. I think it's different in US tho I think, where updates show up later in the evening RPM/EU time. ^^;

btw updating now~ </wii>

Posted on: June 07, 2011, 09:53:36
Aw, cute colorful hearts (and sometimes balls) fills up the package/game you are downloading, and turns into a present. Similar to DSiWare. Adorable. ^u^

Posted on: June 07, 2011, 10:05:56
0v0 3D episode of Game Center CX, where Arino is playing Excitebike 3D~ And the 3D effect of the actual episode is so beautifully sexcellent~ <3
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on June 07, 2011, 03:04:30 PM
So at about 1AM EST, the update was available. I got it, and tried to access the eShop. SERVICE UNAVAILABLE.

AUGH.

So I said f this, I'm going to bed. Wake up middle of the night, I figure hell lets get on the eShop. It worked. I got Shantae DS. It is awesome. And I had to force myself to stop to go back to bed. Now I'm zombie mode today.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Align on June 07, 2011, 03:55:49 PM
Aw, cute colorful hearts (and sometimes balls) fills up the package/game you are downloading, and turns into a present. Similar to DSiWare. Adorable. ^u^
Vixy... I don't think anyone has said this ever before, but...

You are such a girl!
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on June 07, 2011, 08:26:01 PM
Quote
[20:17] <@VixyNyan> guys, a precaution
[20:17] <@VixyNyan> if you're going to use the 3DS eShop
[20:18] <@VixyNyan> don't use the pre-selected tags or buttons that already are showing
[20:18] <@VixyNyan> use the Search feature and select the type of game you want instead
[20:18] <@VixyNyan> like "3D classics" "Game Boy Color" etc
[20:18] <@VixyNyan> why?
[20:18] <@VixyNyan> because Nintendo are hiding some games

With that, I found some more games I didn't find before. ^^;
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Turian on June 07, 2011, 10:27:05 PM
With that, I found some more games I didn't find before. ^^;
What games did you find Vixy?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on June 07, 2011, 11:15:10 PM
Donkey Kong '94 for starters, and other games that are about to get released within a couple of days.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Turian on June 07, 2011, 11:22:32 PM
Yeah, but I just noticed that your favorite game is Rockman World. This means you are looking at the Japanese eshop. Which means your gonna get different games.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on June 07, 2011, 11:28:53 PM
Point being the front page is what they feel like highlighting, not necessarily the full list of new releases.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on June 07, 2011, 11:30:40 PM
There's at least 6 Game Boy VC games on the JP store.

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[16:55] <@VixyNyan> ok let's see, Super Mario Land, Downtown Special Kunio-kun (River City Random), Phantasm, Baseball, Hoshi no Kirby, Rockman World
[16:55] <@VixyNyan> Phantasm is a 2D action game by Jaleco, with cool music
[16:55] <@VixyNyan> I saw a video and it looked ok
[16:55] <@VixyNyan> but I will wait for that one
[16:56] <@VixyNyan> might be better games later

And there's going to be 3 more games on June 15th. You can always find out what games will show up a week later by using the Search feature in the eshop.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on June 08, 2011, 12:57:15 AM
First e-Shop update day after launch for the U.S. folks: Link's Awakening DX is up!

They also have a "Games Shown At E3" category, with free video downloads.  IN FULL 3D! 8)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Turian on June 08, 2011, 01:07:15 AM
:uses search feature: I got nothin'. Well, I got whats already there. Does this work on the US eshop too Vix?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on June 08, 2011, 01:12:38 AM
Well yea it works, the feature is similar to the "Hardware" category on the Wii shop.

It shows every game for that specific system (GB, GBC, Game Gear, etc). All you need is use only the top choice where you select the system, then press "Search" and it should find all the games in that category.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Turian on June 08, 2011, 02:29:51 AM
So, I went to menu, then search, then add search filters, then I selected the system of choice, then apply filters, and I get:

The same stuff thats in the tabbed menu. Nothing thats upcoming or whatnot. Maybe this doesn't work on the US side?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on June 08, 2011, 02:40:16 AM
Has anyone besides me had issues linking their e-Shop account to Club Nintendo?  They're clearly linked, since stuff I downloaded is showing up for Product Registration Surveys, yet making the link is still on my To-Do list for some reason.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on June 08, 2011, 02:41:37 AM
Club Nintendo + eshop works fine for me. o.o;
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Turian on June 08, 2011, 02:45:19 AM
Has anyone besides me had issues linking their e-Shop account to Club Nintendo?  They're clearly linked, since stuff I downloaded is showing up for Product Registration Surveys, yet making the link is still on my To-Do list for some reason.

Yeah, mine is doing the same thing.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on June 08, 2011, 08:08:43 AM
Shantae DS is everything I hoped and dreamed it would be~!
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on June 09, 2011, 12:43:19 AM
Not everyone wants to smudge/scratch their screens, and fingers still work on resistive screens.  Yes, there's a greater need to maintain pressure, but it still works.

Inconvenient?  Perhaps, but then there's the issue of accuracy.  Not only technological (for which capacitive is inferior), but also ergonomical.  I might agree with your point if we were talking about a full-size monitor.  But a controller's screen is going to be relatively small, even if not as small as a DS's.  Take it from someone who prefers to leave their stylus tucked away safely: fingers simply do not provide the level of accuracy that you will often need on such a small scale.  And sure as hell not MY fingers (ask PB).
Actually, it is EXCEPTIONALLY difficult, given that you're talking about a system that's already out.  Even Nintendo lacks the ability to time-travel; what you're suggesting would be impossible without cutting off older projects, thus fragmenting the userbase.  Even if that is overcome, backwards compatability is a pretty major point of most Nintendo handhelds and is especially so with the 3DS (given that they're opening it up to DSiWare and never-before-done-by-Nintendo system transfers; they'd have to rework the e-Shop to detect and accommodate the specific 3DS model, and nobody's going to like taking their latest piece of hardware online to find out that their hardware forbids them access to certain online content).

It's generally not good press for compatibility to vary by the individual SKU, as Sony learned (we hope) the hard way with the PS3.

Even assuming for the sake of argument that Nintendo is going to use a capacitive screen, it would be CONSIDERABLY easier to "program twice" for the Cafe, which is not yet in the public's hands, than for the 3DS, which already is.  Further the Cafe has no backwards compatibility issues with regards to touch sensitivity; no Wii game uses it.

tl;dr
Your premise is questionable, but at least possible.  Your work-around is completely illogical.

Then of course, they could just build a whole ne controller instead of using the (3)DS.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on June 09, 2011, 07:29:36 AM
(http://www.nintendo.co.jp/corporate/release/2011/img_110609/photo2.jpg)

PLEASECOMETOTHEUSPLEASECOMETOTHEUSPLEASECOMETOTHEUS
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on June 10, 2011, 04:19:12 AM
Then of course, they could just build a whole ne controller instead of using the (3)DS.
From IGN (http://wii.ign.com/articles/117/1174821p1.html):
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"Our basic premise is that you can use one with a system," Miyamoto told the site. He detailed further that asking players to use more controllers started to beg the question of why not just find a way to use a 3DS as a Wii U controller.
Evidently, it's not set in stone yet.  Miyamato also said that they're still exploring what happens if a friend brings their tablet over wanting to play together.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on June 10, 2011, 05:46:18 AM
From IGN (http://wii.ign.com/articles/117/1174821p1.html):Evidently, it's not set in stone yet.  Miyamato also said that they're still exploring what happens if a friend brings their tablet over wanting to play together.

You'd probably use too much of the BT's bandwidth.

Also, if they allow more than one to be connected, they'll probably have to sell them as individual units too.

Also, it's possible the use of the 3DS is his answer to using multiple of that type of controller, not a replacement for the controller they already developed and showed at E3.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on June 11, 2011, 12:49:56 AM
At what point was the word "replacement" used in this discussion?  The discussion of 3DS connectivity was as an option.  Nobody's fool enough to release a console that does not function without a $250 handheld to be purchased separately.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on June 11, 2011, 02:43:14 AM
At what point was the word "replacement" used in this discussion?  The discussion of 3DS connectivity was as an option.  Nobody's fool enough to release a console that does not function without a $250 handheld to be purchased separately.

Here:
Also, it's possible the use of the 3DS is his answer to using multiple of that type of controller, not a replacement for the controller they already developed and showed at E3.

Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VirusChris on June 11, 2011, 02:47:58 AM
(http://www.nintendo.co.jp/corporate/release/2011/img_110609/photo2.jpg)

PLEASECOMETOTHEUSPLEASECOMETOTHEUSPLEASECOMETOTHEUS

Wanted this day one! Red is my favorite color!
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on June 11, 2011, 02:53:45 AM
Wanted this day one! Red is my favorite color!
I want Cobalt Blue.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Acid on June 11, 2011, 02:55:47 AM
Black, as always.

The only option.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on June 11, 2011, 03:34:25 AM
I'd have gone with green, but I'm not willing to wait that long, so black it is.

Here:

-AC I meant before that.  It sounded like you were commenting on an issue that nobody ever brought up.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on June 11, 2011, 05:43:33 AM
(http://www.nintendo.co.jp/corporate/release/2011/img_110609/photo2.jpg)

PLEASECOMETOTHEUSPLEASECOMETOTHEUSPLEASECOMETOTHEUS

Completely agreed.

Though it could get lost in my room.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on June 18, 2011, 05:46:13 AM
http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=161142

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GS: Is there any interest in bringing Virtual Boy games to the 3DS?

SM: Well, that's not my exact plan, but something like that could happen. I can say that in my photo album on my Nintendo 3DS, there is a photo of a Virtual Boy. So that says that I do have a Virtual Boy at my disposal. [laughs]

XD yes finally~ the hint I've been waiting for, been wanting this since 3DS was announced! <3 >U<
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: N-Mario on June 18, 2011, 06:19:11 AM
http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=161142

XD yes finally~ the hint I've been waiting for, been wanting this since 3DS was announced! <3 >U<

I wonder what the chances are that they would actually be in 3D. Probably just more emulation porting like they do their other VC games, not a 3DS-ware or something. Though the Red/Black was hard on the eyes, it would be nice if they could do something about this if they did decide to make the games work for 3DS. But my guess is very highly unlikely they would fix the colors, leave as it is.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on June 18, 2011, 01:38:09 PM
Virtual Boy had parallax screens mixing with each other since the very beginning, they WILL be in "3D" no matter what Nintendo does with them. And yes, they WILL be in red/black, because that's the color scheme they used. There's a emulator called "vbjin" that has many cool features for you to try, but the thing is, the colors of the screens are pink/black instead of red/black. >U<

Also, when you hold down the Select button before running a Game Boy game on your 3DS, you can use the 3D slider. It will push the Game Boy console on the top screen forward and the Game Boy screen backward, to make it look like you're play on an actual Game Boy console. XD
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on June 18, 2011, 02:09:48 PM
I would INSTANTLY buy Mario Clash on 3DS Virtual Console... O^O

As Vix said, the Virtual Boy was already stereoscopic, so it'd most definitely be "3D".  I doubt, however, that you'd be able to adjust depth.  More likely the slider would act solely as an on/off switch, the way it does with 3D videos (incidentally, Nintendo needs to increase the volume on those things).

Virtual Boy came out at a time when I pretty much never got my own electronics beyond those black LCD thingamabobs.  All the cool stuff, I had to leech off of my older brothers.  Realistically it would be awesome to have those games truly portable and not requiring a stand/total isolation.

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I think I've got the courage to say that Mario Kart is going to be running at 60 frames a second when they release it.
Cue the epic victory jingle! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrM8aLHj4Vg)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Kieran on June 18, 2011, 05:05:46 PM
Well, I certainly hope the 3DS is actually selling better than the Virtual Boy did at this point in its lifespan, now that we're on the subject.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on June 19, 2011, 05:52:30 AM
I would INSTANTLY buy Mario Clash on 3DS Virtual Console... O^O

As Vix said, the Virtual Boy was already stereoscopic, so it'd most definitely be "3D".  I doubt, however, that you'd be able to adjust depth.  More likely the slider would act solely as an on/off switch, the way it does with 3D videos (incidentally, Nintendo needs to increase the volume on those things).

Virtual Boy came out at a time when I pretty much never got my own electronics beyond those black LCD thingamabobs.  All the cool stuff, I had to leech off of my older brothers.  Realistically it would be awesome to have those games truly portable and not requiring a stand/total isolation.
Cue the epic victory jingle! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrM8aLHj4Vg)

1) Mario Crash? Pfft. Wario is where it's at.

2) The way the VB renders things, there is NO 2D mode period. You'd have to have the 3D always. Unless they feel like rewriting the games specifically for 3DS, and didn't use emulation... Perhaps that is what has prevented them from thus far thinking about it, since games are required to be both, due to children under age 6.

Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on June 19, 2011, 06:12:53 AM
Not a Wario fan, but I have to admit that was a cool game (I played a store demo of Wario on VB).

Creating 2D from 3D is a simple matter of showing only one of the two camera angles.  That's how the 3DS handles 2D mode for video and photos (repositioning objects for a dedicated 2D angle is not possible in either case).  There's no reason that cannot be done with a simple emulator tweak.  Granted, Virtual Boy was never MEANT to have a 2D mode, so it's certainly possible some games will suffer for it.  But technology-wise, there's no reason it cannot be done.

While it is Nintendo's policy that all 3DS software must have a 2D mode, how exactly the 3DS responds to the 3D slider is up to the software being played.  As mentioned above there are instances where it is necessary to be a simple on/off switch with no analogue functionality; Virtual Boy could easily do the same.  Going the opposite way, Excitebike does more than just intensify the depth, and actually has the camera pan to a wider angle as the 3D effect is raised.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on June 19, 2011, 12:23:46 PM
vbjin emulator is able to show one of the VBoy screens just fine, so there's no problem for Nintendo to do the same on 3DS as well. </3DS>
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on June 19, 2011, 09:25:41 PM
Not a Wario fan

WAT

Creating 2D from 3D is a simple matter of showing only one of the two camera angles

Not that simple with games. And no, the 3DS does NOT do that for games. The 3D angles and the 2D angle are separate angles and not just one of the two for 2D mode. For pictures perhaps, but pictures aren't games and the 3D has a much greater implication and application. Because of the way the VB is rendering, only having one side of the image wont work. It's kind of hard to explain if you don't know much about stereoscopic 3D. Please refer to here; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereoscopy
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on June 20, 2011, 03:39:47 AM
First of all, read Vix's post.  It's already been done by people working for free, so in saying it "won't work", you're arguing against what has been proven.

Second, do not put words in my mouth.  I never said that was how the 3DS handled its own games, I specifically referred to when "repositioning objects for a dedicated 2D angle is not possible".  Nobody with a brain stem would believe that real-time 3DS graphics fall into that category.  And I know that providing an adequate attention span, you of all people are smarter than that.

Third, your Wikipedia link is an essay of over 30 sections, most largely irrelevant to your position.  Providing it to reference technical terms and background knowledge is fine and dandy, but that doesn't excuse you from the need to apply it.  You cannot just hand someone a document and assume they will draw the same conclusions as yourself; you must elaborate as to your method, or you haven't even made an argument at all, much less a valid one.


Try again.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on June 20, 2011, 05:40:28 AM
Sorry if it looked as though I was putting words in your mouth, but I was making sure you knew that was not a valid 'good' solution to this problem. Speaking of putting words in people's mouths...

I never said it technically wouldn't work. Of course you can display only one frame buffer if you really want to. Yes, maybe I was too eager to jump to it being a game breaking flaw though. In a 3D game, polygons and so forth, it wouldn't be desirable at all. You can skew the camera angles, making things a little unpleasant. That said though, you can actually lose visibility and positioning on things, even in 2D games. This isn't exactly desirable, but perhaps not as big a deal as it may seem given your view is still flat rendered, so the game may still be technically playable.

And no, I dont have time to baby you and walk you through the wiki article step by step, as much as it seems like I may have time for wall of text sized posts you seem so accustom to. I'm fairly sure you could understand the implications by reading the basic mechanics of how it works, saving me time. That is, assuming you of a certain level. I do hope I wasn't overestimating you. Regardless, the reading is entirely elective, but I'd recommend you do. Out side of this, it's an interesting read on it's own.

Oh darn, this post is getting a little long. Till next time kids! Oh and please do leave the pompous douche bag 'victory' taunts back at home next time. It certainly doesn't increase your chances of a completely polite response or peaceful conclusion. I know it's like you, but it really isn't winning you any points either way.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Krystal on June 20, 2011, 06:03:46 AM
Um...don't really like butting into arguments but I think he meant this line:

It's kind of hard to explain if you don't know much about stereoscopic 3D. Please refer to here; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereoscopy

As in, you should've then explained what you were getting at after the reader (presumably) read up on stereoscopy. =X
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on June 20, 2011, 06:19:19 AM
I dont have time to baby

Lemme try.

While you can choose to only see one "Point of View" in a Virtual Boy, you must remember that these games were made specifically with the purpose and the ability to let you play a game using two "Points of View".
While a Polygonal game has an unfixed camera which your brain can use to determine depth with clue such as depth and layering of object, the 2D games of a Virtual Boy fail considerably at this and depend on the use of the stereoscopic vision to let your brain determine depth.

These are polygonal games in motion. Your brain can realise a certain amount of depth from how things change as they move.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v90/xnamkcor/H4X/Z64/LinkLungeR.gif)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v90/xnamkcor/H4X/Z64/SlashRave.gif)

This is a non-polygonal game using only one Point of View. Sans things like Mode-7 Scaling and rotating, you don't have much or any clues as to depth beyond the shading or static size of objects.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v90/xnamkcor/H4X/sd3aip.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v90/xnamkcor/H4X/emoZerox3.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v90/xnamkcor/H4X/snap131.png)

These games even have a vast array of shades to let your brain know what is darker or lighter. The Virtual Boy has none of that.

So, what it comes down to is a very simple monochrome game with simple graphics that, through stereoscopy, lets your brain realise depth. And this is its main and only focus. When you remove one of those Points of View you are removing half your visual experience. You are now looking at an extremely off center 2D gameboy game that seems oddly obsessed with isometrics.

For an audio experience. Go find some Beatles Music(Pre-White Album) and remove one of the channels.
Well, gee, that's perfectly fine. Isn't it? Taking a stereo sound and just observing one channel sure isn't detrimental to the experience at all.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on June 22, 2011, 12:56:07 AM
What you're describing is why the Virtual Boy hasn't been officially emulated on a traditional screen.  As a standard, it is unacceptable; the experience is lost.  As an option, it is possible, though barring eye strain it is clearly not ideal.

As a matter of Nintendo 3DS software policy, an option is required.  If the game has the ideal 3D mode at the flick of a finger, I don't see Nintendo chomping at the bit to reprogram a 2D experience from a centered camera angle.  It goes against what the Virtual Boy was attempting, and realistically speaking, I don't believe Nintendo would put that much effort into porting a failed console anyway.  It's too much effort to too small a benefit.  The "quick and dirty" way, as long as it actually works, is far more practical.



I never said it technically wouldn't work.
It's called "verbal context (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Context_(language_use)#Verbal_context)."

You said, "Because of the way the VB is rendering, only having one side of the image wont work."  And further, the post that you were arguing with contained my own concession that "Granted, Virtual Boy was never MEANT to have a 2D mode, so it's certainly possible some games will suffer for it."

You refer to the VB's rendering, which is a technical process, when in fact your argument is regarding human perception, which nowhere in your post did you speak of.  Further, you phrase your response as a counter while in fact you are reinforcing an issue that I already touched upon; a misunderstanding from there is no far stretch.

It is not "babying" people to clarify your own words.  The hardware's creation of a stereoscopic image and the human's perception of that image are two different things.  You wrote of the earlier while meaning the latter.  We all phrase things poorly sometimes, that's no reason to get defensive.  And you should know me well enough to know that my [Bumpity-Boom!] victory taunts are usually visual. :P  Your point was obviously lost, and you clarified, so thank you.  I still think you're wrong, for reasons outlined above the break, but at least now I understand what the hell you were talking about.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on June 22, 2011, 01:29:40 AM
I don't see Nintendo chomping at the bit to reprogram a 2D experience from a centered camera angle.
And that's for things that are just simple vectors. That doesn't cover the 2D resources they'd have to redraw to make the new angle.

The "quick and dirty" way, as long as it actually works, is far more practical.
As long as it it works, hitting my dog with a baseball bat is far more practical that paying for flea shampoo.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on June 22, 2011, 01:35:38 AM
...that doesn't work. o-O
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Reaperoid on June 22, 2011, 10:13:07 AM
[youtube]RHJ4vfpTDOQ[/youtube]
Skip to 1m25 for a red-cyan anaglyph mode.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on July 14, 2011, 10:30:49 PM
Just a heads-up, Netflix is now available on the 3DS (USA & CA). Although the video quality is pretty poor, it gets the job done.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on July 14, 2011, 11:27:38 PM
Just a heads-up, Netflix is now available on the 3DS (USA & CA). Although the video quality is pretty poor, it gets the job done.

I wonder why the video quality is poor. 5Mb/s should be fine for low res video. Maybe they haven't worked out some bugs with the resizing the video. Or something in the system assumes a low res device only needs a low bitrate stream.

Either way, the 3DS should be perfectly capable of handling an HD quality QWVGA stream.

A BMP of the size 400x240 is 281KB. Assuming 60 Frames Per Second, a second of video would be 16860KB. That's 132Mb/s.

And none of this means anything because it depends on your WAN connection speed and we have no idea how well the 3DS handles video playback. Also, Netflix doesn't use a stream of bitmaps. If Netflix had a way to know you are using a certain client and send a certain, pre-encoded, stream, that would probably save some trouble. For instance, sending a 400x240 5Mb/s stream to a 3DS would probably be a lot more effective than sending a 1080p or 720p 10Mb/s stream and making the 3DS resize it. Chances are it doesn't even do that. Chances are the server is just told to send the lowest quality hoping everything works out.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on July 14, 2011, 11:43:14 PM
Seeings how they still plan on releasing 3D movies in the future, I'd imagine there is a 3DS-specific format.  At least in the works.  But for now, for their 2D movies, yeah, they may just be sending a low-quality stream and leaving it at that.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Align on July 16, 2011, 09:37:41 PM
I wonder why the video quality is poor. 5Mb/s should be fine for low res video. Maybe they haven't worked out some bugs with the resizing the video. Or something in the system assumes a low res device only needs a low bitrate stream.

Either way, the 3DS should be perfectly capable of handling an HD quality QWVGA stream.

A BMP of the size 400x240 is 281KB. Assuming 60 Frames Per Second, a second of video would be 16860KB. That's 132Mb/s.
Isn't it because video uses UDP instead of TCP so if a packet with frame data doesn't arrive in time it's just completely dropped?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Blackhook on July 19, 2011, 02:50:39 PM
Apparently...Legends isn't the only game that got cancelled. (http://kotaku.com/5822519/whats-with-all-the-cancelled-3ds-games)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on July 19, 2011, 02:56:52 PM
Maybe they're cutting their losses on the development cost of making a 3DS game and jumping ship to Vita. I don't care which is better, but I can't imagine they're abandoning these projects for fun.

PS: Because it's relevant to this topic too.

http://forum.rockmanpm.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6.0;attach=2015
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on July 20, 2011, 12:42:19 AM
I've said it before, and I'll say it again:  With the 3DS launch, Nintendo gave the 3rd parties some extra rope, and the 3rd parties hanged themselves.

The solution to the "only Nintendo games sell on Nintendo hardware" bitchery is not for Nintendo to cease/delay supporting their hardware.  Didn't work for Wii Speak, it ain't working for 3DS, and God willing somebody at Nintendo will figure out that it will not work for Wii-U beforehand.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Flame on July 20, 2011, 06:12:31 AM
Maybe they're cutting their losses on the development cost of making a 3DS game and jumping ship to Vita. I don't care which is better, but I can't imagine they're abandoning these projects for fun.

PS: Because it's relevant to this topic too.

http://forum.rockmanpm.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6.0;attach=2015
how exactly do I open an mpo..?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on July 20, 2011, 06:15:44 AM
A 3DS is one option >.>
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Post by: Flame on July 20, 2011, 06:38:36 AM
Dont have one, dont plan on getting one. :B
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Post by: xnamkcor on July 20, 2011, 07:34:12 AM
Dont have one, dont plan on getting one. :B

Sounds like a personal problem(solution?) to me.
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Post by: Kieran on July 20, 2011, 05:46:51 PM
And just what IS that MPO file exactly, before I go to the trouble of downloading it and transferring it to my 3DS?
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Post by: VixyNyan on July 20, 2011, 06:15:53 PM
MPO contains two images that forms a stereoscopic 3D effect.
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Post by: xnamkcor on July 21, 2011, 02:35:25 AM
MPO contains two images that forms a stereoscopic 3D effect.

He's asking what the MPO I've provided contains. Just to clarify, it's not a "3D" image. It does use both eyes, so it's still stereoscopic. It's not porn or anything, just something familiar so it's clear if there is something wrong with the image.
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Post by: Phi on September 07, 2011, 03:56:17 AM
Rumors, rumors and more rumors. These will be apparently brought to light at Nintendo's September 13th 3DS Press Conference.

Quote
- Monster Hunter exclusive for 3DS, supports online play.

- A Yoshi side scroller for 3DS, developed by Good-Feel.

- New game from WarioWare team.

- Etrian Odyssey 3DS

- Hatsune Miku 3DS, contains all songs from Project DIVA 1 and 2.

- Grasshopper Manufacture developing Silver Case sequel/remake for 3DS.

- Presentation on eShop demos; Super Mario Land 3D will have a downloadable demo.

- The "new project" from Alchemist, the famous visual novel company, is an entirely new "moe mystery" for 3DS.

- Ace Attorney 5, will supposedly include an Edgeworth scenario. AA: Investigations being phased in to main series?

Source (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=30710708&postcount=449)
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Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 07, 2011, 06:03:29 AM
Rumors about Monster Hunter 3DS and a second Circle Pad add-on is now confirmed.

(http://www.gonintendo.com/content/uploads/images/Aug2011/391676381.jpg)
(http://www.gonintendo.com/content/uploads/images/Aug2011/391680324.jpg)
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Post by: Solar on September 07, 2011, 06:32:59 AM
Is there a translation for what the second scan says?
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Post by: Phi on September 07, 2011, 07:14:52 AM
If rumors about the Tri G online capabilities prove true: SOLD. And that second analog should be great for games like Kid Icarus, seeing as how some people complained about using the touch screen for camera.

But that design... ugh. What is this? The 90s?
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Post by: Turian on September 07, 2011, 12:38:00 PM
You forgot the rumor of a new Rockman 3DS game, that's not Dash3.
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Post by: Solar on September 07, 2011, 03:16:05 PM
Good god, the amount of “NINTENDO IS DOOMED“ or “[tornado fang] YOU NINTENDO I‘M NEVER BUYING ANYTHING OF YOURS AGAIN“ comments because of this is incredible.
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Post by: Kieran on September 07, 2011, 03:41:27 PM
Why is that?  It doesn't seem like anything even newsworthy to me.
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Post by: Archer on September 07, 2011, 03:43:31 PM
They say that stuff over every little single thing Nintendo does, it's not surprising.
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Post by: Mirby on September 07, 2011, 03:45:14 PM
They say that stuff over every little single thing Nintendo does, it's not surprising.
Judging from the Legends 3 backlash, I think it's feasible to say that it's said when anyone does anything that someone dislikes.

Seriously, replace NINTENDO with CAPCOM in Tai's comment, and it's L3's cancellation all over again.
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Post by: Hypershell on September 08, 2011, 04:06:37 AM
The problem with Capcom is that "Mega Man" is related to "Mega Man Legends" without actually being "Mega Man Legends".  Ergo, any announcement of "Mega Man" will drudge up the memories of "Mega Man Legends", and at the same time remind us that the promises of "Mega Man Legends" are unfulfilled.

Seriously, the longer the news sinks in, the longer I look at the e-Shop and see that there *STILL* isn't any native-3DS game on the damn thing, the more angry I get with Capcom.  I know they're not doomed or anything, I'm not that naive, but they pulled one hell of a dick move, and forgetting about it is far easier said than done.



The second circle pad I honestly don't care about.  I'm one of those rebels who barely touched an FPS outside of Metroid (which many call an "FPA" since it handles so differently), and dual-analogue control has never felt natural to me.  As someone who lived and died by Mega Man X for two console generations, my right thumb needs to be doing more than just camera control.
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Post by: Mirby on September 08, 2011, 05:26:45 AM
I wasn't trying to offend, I was just pointing out the mere fact that people did say stuff like that at the cancellation.

Trust me, I'm pissed off too.

Ahem.
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Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 08, 2011, 07:11:31 AM
Good god, the amount of “NINTENDO IS DOOMED“ or “[tornado fang] YOU NINTENDO I‘M NEVER BUYING ANYTHING OF YOURS AGAIN“ comments because of this is incredible.

Nintendo going third party confirmed!
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Post by: Kieran on September 08, 2011, 07:06:25 PM
I just don't get why people are crying Nintendo's doom for releasing a peripheral.  It was more understandable in Legends 3's case, considering Capcom was cancelling the last game in a beloved franchise.  The comparison doesn't really work.
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Post by: Solar on September 08, 2011, 07:25:41 PM
Something something redesign and it should've had it built in in the first place. Something something screwing early adopters again and splitting the userbase.
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Post by: Hypershell on September 09, 2011, 02:26:16 AM
I can kinda see Nintendo's logic in that realistically the touch screen should more than compensate as an instrument to aim with.  With extra touch-icons on the screen it's considerably more versatile for such games (see Metroid Prime Hunters), and in that sense, a second stick is truly pointless.  There is absolutely no reason this peripheral should ever be required.  However, there are certain people who simply will not be broken of their old trends, both players and developers.
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Post by: Phi on September 09, 2011, 03:06:47 AM
Second Analog = No hand cramps
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Post by: Hypershell on September 09, 2011, 03:20:29 AM
Given the lack of grip on the 3DS slide-pad(s), I doubt that.  The extra girth might help those of us with larger hands, but that's about it.
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Post by: xnamkcor on September 09, 2011, 03:58:50 AM
Given the lack of grip on the 3DS slide-pad(s), I doubt that.  The extra girth might help those of us with larger hands, but that's about it.

I hear in some countries they have for purchase a substance that makes things more gripping.
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Post by: Phi on September 09, 2011, 04:22:52 AM
Using the touch screen for long periods of time can cause hand cramps quite easily. It has happened before. The second stick should naturally be more comfortable to use, especially when compared to touch screen heavy games, like I mentioned before: Kid Icarus.
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Post by: xnamkcor on September 09, 2011, 04:54:54 AM
Using the touch screen for long periods of time can cause hand cramps quite easily. It has happened before. The second stick should naturally be more comfortable to use, especially when compared to touch screen heavy games, like I mentioned before: Kid Icarus.

Despite the reduction in accuracy, a capacitive touch screen would get rid of a lot of the things that make using a resistive touch screen annoying. But no, we have to keep compatibility for DS games.
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Post by: Kieran on September 09, 2011, 01:09:32 PM
Personally, I wouldn't mind having that thing just to make the 3DS bigger.  I can't play it for more than 30 minutes without my hands starting to hurt from the awkward way I have to hold it with these beefy paws I call hands.
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Post by: Jericho on September 09, 2011, 07:08:46 PM
You forgot the rumor of a new Rockman 3DS game, that's not Dash3.

Late as all hell, but what?
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Post by: xnamkcor on September 09, 2011, 07:52:37 PM
Personally, I wouldn't mind having that thing just to make the 3DS bigger.  I can't play it for more than 30 minutes without my hands starting to hurt from the awkward way I have to hold it with these beefy paws I call hands.

Not having the Power Button where the Start/Select buttons were on the DS would be nice too. And what were they thinking making the actual Start/Select button so hard to push?
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Post by: Hypershell on September 10, 2011, 04:01:42 AM
Using the touch screen for long periods of time can cause hand cramps quite easily. It has happened before. The second stick should naturally be more comfortable to use, especially when compared to touch screen heavy games, like I mentioned before: Kid Icarus.
I never said it wouldn't; I've played Metroid Prime Hunters to completion, you know.

What I said was that I don't expect the slide pad to be much more ergonomic.  The slide pad is not ridged as Nintendo's usual analogue sticks are; you have to put a fair amount of pressure on it to keep your grip.  Extended play sessions with OoT 3D was the first time I got a portable hand cramp since owning my original phat DS, and that's a game you play with buttons.

That and the lack of an octagonal frame (no tactile sense of direction; makes that warp in SF64 a bit trickier) are the two biggest head-scratchers of the 3DS for me.  It's something Nintendo's been doing for the last three console generations and I don't know why they stopped now.

Despite the reduction in accuracy, a capacitive touch screen would get rid of a lot of the things that make using a resistive touch screen annoying. But no, we have to keep compatibility for DS games.
To hell with DS compatability; for controlling a targeting reticle on a 3" screen, a reduction in accuracy would be CONSIDERABLY more annoying than any issue the current model has.
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Post by: xnamkcor on September 10, 2011, 06:08:48 AM
The slide pad is not ridged as Nintendo's usual analogue sticks are; you have to put a fair amount of pressure on it to keep your grip.

I would suggest you stop putting lotion on your hands just prior to playing your 3DS.
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Post by: Hypershell on September 10, 2011, 06:25:39 AM
I don't have little girly thumbs that fit into the slide-pad's depression. :P
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Post by: Phi on September 10, 2011, 06:59:37 AM
I've only had trouble gripping on properly for the first 20 minutes I played OoT. But that was only because I wasn't used to pressing down on the analog for such a long period of time (the only other games I had were DOA and SF, in which I barely used the analog). After that, I never had any problems with analog, not much pressure required. My hands aren't big, and not small either.
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Post by: Hypershell on September 10, 2011, 08:09:54 AM
My hands are humongous.  However, I had no issues with my DSi, which is about the same size as the 3DS.
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Post by: Bueno Excelente on September 10, 2011, 11:55:07 AM
Funny how people are being so resistant about this. The exclusion of a second analog from the 3DS proved Nintendo's completely out of date when it comes to allowing developers to use a console for any third dimensional game that doesn't feature fixed camera angles. Doesn't really matter what anyone says, if you ask anyone if the DS had any good FPS or TPS games, most people will just go "No." The reason the console wasn't popular with that kind of genre, was because of the lack of a second analog, something which is VERY much needed for most modern games nowadays. MUCH better than triggers, claw grip or even controlling the camera through the DS screen, something which completely takes away any ergonomic capacities away from the console.

Looks like you're gonna have to learn the equivalent of how to ride a bike when you're 40, Hypy. 8D
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Post by: xnamkcor on September 10, 2011, 04:12:34 PM
I think most are resistant towards the fact that they didn't design it into the device itself. Even if they don't know it or admit it.
I'm probably gonna wait for a redesign before I get a 3DS. I always was, but now I know I have a reason instead of just having a good guess based on their recent history.
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Post by: Bueno Excelente on September 10, 2011, 04:18:38 PM
I admit I screwed up BIGTIME by buying it near launch. With the $80 ambassador roms bullshit and now a redesign they're not even waiting half a year to present... let's just say I wish I waited for games.

...well, I'm gonna end up pirating every single one of them in the first place. =P
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Post by: Hypershell on September 10, 2011, 04:34:38 PM
You evil pirating swine.

*hides his romhacks*

Funny how people are being so resistant about this. The exclusion of a second analog from the 3DS proved Nintendo's completely out of date when it comes to allowing developers to use a console for any third dimensional game that doesn't feature fixed camera angles. Doesn't really matter what anyone says, if you ask anyone if the DS had any good FPS or TPS games, most people will just go "No." The reason the console wasn't popular with that kind of genre, was because of the lack of a second analog, something which is VERY much needed for most modern games nowadays. MUCH better than triggers, claw grip or even controlling the camera through the DS screen, something which completely takes away any ergonomic capacities away from the console.

Looks like you're gonna have to learn the equivalent of how to ride a bike when you're 40, Hypy. 8D
I'll grant you the ergonomic issues, but there is some degree of subjectivity to that.  That's why the Options menu exists.  The touch screen generally offers less comfort but greater precision, whether or not the tradeoff is worth it varies by the individual.

And sorry to disappoint you, but I plan to continue riding my horse. 8D Dual analogue is a decade old, BE, and I've been gaming that entire time.  It's not as vital as you think when you lack interest in the FPS genre to begin with.  And even if I do expand my horizons (which I did at last year's NYCC), there are other options.  Its supposed necessity is the result of a trend, not of practicality.  The 360 is the only system left, current or upcoming, that has two sticks, but does not have either a touch-screen or a pointer.

Of course, in the world of marketing, trends can be just as powerful as practicality.

I think most are resistant towards the fact that they didn't design it into the device itself. Even if they don't know it or admit it.
Sounds logical to me.  If you want it, you likely believe it should have been in the system at the start.  If you don't, you wouldn't have given a damn if it was in the system at the start.
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Post by: Bueno Excelente on September 10, 2011, 05:23:19 PM
You evil pirating swine.

*hides his romhacks*
I'll grant you the ergonomic issues, but there is some degree of subjectivity to that.  That's why the Options menu exists.  The touch screen generally offers less comfort but greater precision, whether or not the tradeoff is worth it varies by the individual.

And sorry to disappoint you, but I plan to continue riding my horse. 8D Dual analogue is a decade old, BE, and I've been gaming that entire time.  It's not as vital as you think when you lack interest in the FPS genre to begin with.  And even if I do expand my horizons (which I did at last year's NYCC), there are other options.  Its supposed necessity is the result of a trend, not of practicality.  The 360 is the only system left, current or upcoming, that has two sticks, but does not have either a touch-screen or a pointer.

Of course, in the world of marketing, trends can be just as powerful as practicality.
Sounds logical to me.  If you want it, you likely believe it should have been in the system at the start.  If you don't, you wouldn't have given a damn if it was in the system at the start.
Blurg-a-blurg, analogs may not be the best way to aim, mouse control is. But they're certainly the best way to move a camera on consoles. The right analog stick is the ONLY way to use a camera well when it's not fixed, and pointers solve nothing. And Hypy, do excuse the fact, but it's not only FPS games that use it. Kingdom Hearts, Monster Hunter, GTA, and most other non-fixed camera games NEED to have a dual analog system, or resort to horrible claw grips and bad camera systems. Also, there isn't one single tournament-played FPS that uses a pointer in the first place. Because they suck at when you have to move the camera around. Killzone 3 had alot of criticism about this, and let's not even mention the lack of any good straight FPS games the Wii has because of the complete lack of a dual analog system.

I'm not saying this, sweetheart. It's the industry. Warn me when the prefered control system by all on cowwadooties and Haloes becomes pointers and stuff like that.

Meanwhile, I'd ask you to leave western gaming control functionality, to people who actually PLAY those games. =P Don't talk about stuff you don't know.
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Post by: Phi on September 11, 2011, 12:31:08 AM
There are so many topics that can be discussed about the 3DS alone, factoring in how primitive they have made it. No built-in second analog, no substantial messaging system, low screen resolution for modern tech (640x480 could have been the 2D standard), no chat room, lack of downloadable retail games on eShop, among a few others. These are basic things that almost any modern gaming systems have and then some, yet Nintendo persists to stay behind.

Surely, It couldn't be a matter of endangering their market sales. The 3DS could of had all those mentioned features and sold for a justly priced $250. PS3 was $600 then brought down to $300 - $250 without removing any features besides PS2 backwards compatibility. Sony made the same mistake, they could have sold it for $300 at the start and avoided the bad sales due to over-pricing. Companies apparently think that selling powerful but dated hardware warrants a hefty price tag. But anyway, I'm getting ahead of myself.

The lack of the second analog from the start is one of the most baffling things to me (along with the absence of a messaging/chat system). Nintendo is afraid, but for absolutely no reason whatsoever. There's nothing wrong about getting with the times. The 3DS has the potential to feel like a home console, but It's being dragged back.
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Post by: Bueno Excelente on September 11, 2011, 12:58:27 AM
There are so many topics that can be discussed about the 3DS alone, factoring in how primitive they have made it. No built-in second analog, no substantial messaging system, low screen resolution for modern tech (640x480 could have been the 2D standard), no chat room, lack of downloadable retail games on eShop, among a few others. These are basic things that almost any modern gaming systems have and then some, yet Nintendo persists to stay behind.

Surely, It couldn't be a matter of endangering their market sales. The 3DS could of had all those mentioned features and sold for a justly priced $250. PS3 was $600 then brought down to $300 - $250 without removing any features besides PS2 backwards compatibility. Sony made the same mistake, they could have sold it for $300 at the start and avoided the bad sales due to over-pricing. Companies apparently think that selling powerful but dated hardware warrants a hefty price tag. But anyway, I'm getting ahead of myself.

The lack of the second analog from the start is one of the most baffling things to me (along with the absence of a messaging/chat system). Nintendo is afraid, but for absolutely no reason whatsoever. There's nothing wrong about getting with the times. The 3DS has the potential to feel like a home console, but It's being dragged back.
Apple does it, and Nintendo does it as well. The sin of thinking you're more important than anyone else, the sin of thinking you set every single damn trend. The sin of thinking that a tiny thing like Fox News paranoids saying child pedophilia is everywhere online ruins your image of family-friendly, so your net functionality must be as closed and as obtuse as it can be. Nintendo sins quite a bit these past two generations.

On the Wii and the DS, they got very, very lucky. They basically gambled a whole lot, and even played it safe on a certain bit. It ended up working in the exact opposite way they expected, but in a very controversial way as well. They are swimming in ten times more money they could have predicted, and sadly, instead of making them artistically free and happy, or even financially cautious, it made them stupid.

So far, as Legends 3 has been cancelled, only a bunch of titles interest me on the 3DS. Beyond the Labyrinth, that cell shooter game, Luigi's Mansion 2 and that new Kingdom Hearts game. The 3DS has a whole lot of potencial going on for it, but NONE of it is in the stereoscopic 3D functionality, an 80s gimmick which has been taken too damn far by the movie industry recently, and that I expect for it to go away as soon as the next generation of beautiful screen resolutions amaze us with the new detail they can bring.

But the 3DS has been overtaken even by current cellphone resolutions, which have delivered to us amazing stuff like this:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aVttB25oPo[/youtube]

When even iOS systems can deliver to us quality like this, Nintendo is making the very, very stubborn move of staying behind, and giving us slightly graphically improved ports of games they released more than a decade ago. It feels like an insult, pure and simply. People are just going to notice when their cellphones can give them higher tech stuff than the console they bought FOR GAMES.

As far as the second analog stick goes, I've said my piece. After being used for three generations as the perfect console camera system, it's just dumb not to put it in.
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Post by: OBJECTION MAN on September 11, 2011, 01:10:42 AM
The slide pad is not ridged as Nintendo's usual analogue sticks are; you have to put a fair amount of pressure on it to keep your grip.

I noticed this too. However, the reason seems to be simply it doesn't handle skin oil build up as well as ridged ones. Simply wipe your circle pad off, and your thumb off, and it'll be fine. That's all I had to do.
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Post by: Phi on September 11, 2011, 05:31:54 AM
When even iOS systems can deliver to us quality like this, Nintendo is making the very, very stubborn move of staying behind, and giving us slightly graphically improved ports of games they released more than a decade ago. It feels like an insult, pure and simply. People are just going to notice when their cellphones can give them higher tech stuff than the console they bought FOR GAMES.

I wouldn't go as far as to say OoT or StarFox are slightly upgraded. It's quite a far amount if you look at N64 vs 3DS comparisons, and even better viewing it first-hand on the 3DS screen. Also both Boss Rush and MQ in OoT are very much appreciated. However of course, a fair number of "blocky" geometry structures from the original releases can be recognized in the remakes, just given a coating of shiny paint. As much as I love playing OoT 3D, they still could have revamped it completely to where It looked akin to SS or TP.

And I worry the 3DS's fairly low screen resolution may hinder games like RE:Revelations and even the new Monster Hunter Tri G game (one of the Wii's most graphically impressive). For this system, It seems that only the third party companies try to push the hardware.

[spoiler][youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_eN6hSPJMI[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QB_hcpzDq5M&feature=related[/youtube][/spoiler]

Until then, Nintendo has to wake up. They never had that problem with the GC (beautiful games like Double Dash, Sunshine, TP and Star Fox Assault).
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Post by: Hypershell on September 11, 2011, 07:08:43 AM
I love Double Dash, but I don't think it's all that graphically impressive.

Star Fox 64 DS looks positively gorgeous; its visuals are considerably better than OoT 3D's, and with the exception of the in-ship animal heads, it leaves few if any "primitive" remnants of the original the way that OoT 3D did with its various boss monsters (among other things).  It's no RE:Revelations (not as if a certain third party didn't put Nintendo to shame on the GCN), and it is kinda sad that we only saw the first Nintendo game to push Nintendo's hardware this week.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again:  There is no way, between Kid Icarus (granted Sakurai isn't reliable with dates) and two N64 ports, that none of that could have been ready for launch.  Nintendo gave the third parties some extra rope, and the third parties hanged themselves.  Sure, the hardware was pricey, but outside of ports (even some outstanding ports), the software ranges from abysmal to nonexistant until November or so.

Monster Hunter...and most other non-fixed camera games NEED to have a dual analog system
270 hours of hunting and half a dozen Azure Dragongems have proven to me that dual analogue is not the gameplay necessity that many would have us believe.

But to be clear, I am not saying that dual analogue should be abandoned.  That would be foolish.  It is extremely valuable for marketing purposes (my negativity towards the 3DS add-on is due to the fact that those who actually want it likely won't care for the extra bulk and will continue bitching that it should have been built-in in the first place), as it removes a potential barrier to a wide range of experienced gamers.  Even if a new control setup is perfectly functional, to omit a previously established standard is to risk alienating your previously established audience.

It's just as true of button layouts as it is dual-analogue, and I've already raised hell over it long ago (see Star Fox Command).

I noticed this too. However, the reason seems to be simply it doesn't handle skin oil build up as well as ridged ones. Simply wipe your circle pad off, and your thumb off, and it'll be fine. That's all I had to do.
I'll have to keep that in mind.  It's pretty much just OoT where I had issues, though.
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Post by: Bueno Excelente on September 11, 2011, 11:35:58 AM
I wouldn't go as far as to say OoT or StarFox are slightly upgraded. It's quite a far amount if you look at N64 vs 3DS comparisons, and even better viewing it first-hand on the 3DS screen. Also both Boss Rush and MQ in OoT are very much appreciated. However of course, a fair number of "blocky" geometry structures from the original releases can be recognized in the remakes, just given a coating of shiny paint. As much as I love playing OoT 3D, they still could have revamped it completely to where It looked akin to SS or TP.

And I worry the 3DS's fairly low screen resolution may hinder games like RE:Revelations and even the new Monster Hunter Tri G game (one of the Wii's most graphically impressive). For this system, It seems that only the third party companies try to push the hardware.

[spoiler][youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_eN6hSPJMI[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QB_hcpzDq5M&feature=related[/youtube][/spoiler]

Until then, Nintendo has to wake up. They never had that problem with the GC (beautiful games like Double Dash, Sunshine, TP and Star Fox Assault).
Let's just say I am very pissed off whenever I hear Nintendo call OOT and Starfox "remakes". A remake, is something like Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes, or Tomb Raider: Anniversary. It's something that completely revamps a game, visually and gameplay-wise, to fit today's standards. These two games are mere graphical upgrades, with a few added control options. And not even graphical upgrades to fit today's standards by far, or even regular standards of what a 3DS game is capable of. The 3DS can do stuff like that Resi game easily, but both Nintendo and most third-parties aren't even making the effort, instead making games that could be possible on N64 hardware (the DS could have handled many of them) and really pushing the standards, nope. They're buying a huge hole for both them, and the gaming industry. To show that we can be stuck in a rut for years and years to come, simply waving eye trick [parasitic bomb] like stereoscopic 3D onto people's faces, and they'll come running. This when most of the people who play the 3DS say they use the 3D effect for about 5 minutes, and then switch to normal, as an ordinary novelty.

I seriously can't wait until they start making games that do NOT require any use of the 3D. Just like the lion's share of good Wii games doesn't even use any waggling to speak of.

derp
Oh honey. Trying to give yourself as an example for the whole world, isn't really valid. And you won't be able to find any modern game with a free camera system on a dual analog console, that doesn't use the right analog stick to control the camera. No developer ever thinks there's any kind of problem with it. No developer has ever thought the right analog stick was only clever marketing, or just a "trend". It's actually the best way to use a game's camera when you have no mouse. I know it, everybody in the world knows it. It's not a trend, and it's not clever marketing. It has been the best way to control camera direction for years, and it'll continue to be the best for years to come, until someone figures out a better way to control it. And it looks like all future consoles will have a dual analog system. The Wii U has learned its lesson, and the so has the 3DS, with this new peripheral.

(http://www.isamaj.com/kidzcorner/Stories/images/fox.jpg)

The grapes are perfectly fine. The fox just needs to stop being a [sonic slicer]. And the analog sticks are fine. Just get used to the standard control scheme for everything nowadays, or stop playing games. It's that simple, darling.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on September 11, 2011, 04:45:13 PM
I seriously can't wait until they start making games that do NOT require any use of the 3D.

Well, I hope you don't have to wait long. As we all know, if you turn off the 3D on all current 3DS games, the game crashes and then you have to send it to Nintendo. It's not like every game supports a no 3D mode and it's even built into the hardware. Nope, all the current games crash and show you gay porn when you try to force non-3D mode.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on September 11, 2011, 07:18:28 PM
Well, I hope you don't have to wait long. As we all know, if you turn off the 3D on all current 3DS games, the game crashes and then you have to send it to Nintendo. It's not like every game supports a no 3D mode and it's even built into the hardware. Nope, all the current games crash and show you gay porn when you try to force non-3D mode.
...I mean games in which teams start using the full power of the 3DS for graphical advantage instead of 3D rendering, you [Bumpity-Boom!].
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on September 11, 2011, 07:52:38 PM
That may be what you meant, but it's not what you said.  And the rest of the internet tries to go on the latter rather than guess at the earlier.

There are already games that bump up the framerate while the 3D is off.  And supposedly Shin Megami Tensei doesn't use the 3D at all outside of the opening cinematic.  It certainly doesn't push the system visually, though; evidently the devs just didn't feel like using it.

Trying to give yourself as an example for the whole world, isn't really valid.
I don't know why you insist that my expressing a personal preference equals a movement to abolish an industry standard.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on September 11, 2011, 09:00:56 PM
...I mean games in which teams start using the full power of the 3DS for graphical advantage instead of 3D rendering, you [Bumpity-Boom!].

It's been 6 months since launch. It's usually 1 year or 6 months before the system dies that developers finally have a full hold on the graphical power of any system.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on September 11, 2011, 10:25:22 PM
That may be what you meant, but it's not what you said.  And the rest of the internet tries to go on the latter rather than guess at the earlier.

There are already games that bump up the framerate while the 3D is off.  And supposedly Shin Megami Tensei doesn't use the 3D at all outside of the opening cinematic.  It certainly doesn't push the system visually, though; evidently the devs just didn't feel like using it.
I don't know why you insist that my expressing a personal preference equals a movement to abolish an industry standard.

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Its supposed necessity is the result of a trend, not of practicality.  The 360 is the only system left, current or upcoming, that has two sticks, but does not have either a touch-screen or a pointer.

Of course, in the world of marketing, trends can be just as powerful as practicality.
This isn't "personal preference". This is dismissing the most common gaming control standard since the d-pad as a "trend". Don't run away from your words.

And I'm not stupid enough to not realise a big 3D function slider on my own console. I said "games that do not require the use of the 3D", and by that I mean from the developent teams that spend time making the little pop-out effect work instead of dedicating that time to making a game better. I do, however, know that by simply taking out the 3D functionality, frees quite alot of space for processing. Processing that can be used to make the game better, rather than being used for hollywood's main gimmick. By "full power", I mean that they're purposedly limiting themselves with the 3D, for the sake of doing that little pop-up feature the console has. I did not mean they needed to use the full graphical power that the console can achieve.

Having to make an entire game in stereoscopic 3D is why so many companies are resorting to making ports and quick games for the 3DS. Less work, same amount of money.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on September 12, 2011, 12:46:12 AM
This isn't "personal preference". This is dismissing the most common gaming control standard since the d-pad as a "trend". Don't run away from your words.
trend
noun
1.the general course or prevailing tendency


That's not dismissive, that's an acknowledgement of popularity.  Quit being so defensive.

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And I'm not stupid enough to not realise a big 3D function slider on my own console. I said "games that do not require the use of the 3D", and by that I mean from the developent teams that spend time making the little pop-out effect work instead of dedicating that time to making a game better. I do, however, know that by simply taking out the 3D functionality, frees quite alot of space for processing. Processing that can be used to make the game better, rather than being used for hollywood's main gimmick. By "full power", I mean that they're purposedly limiting themselves with the 3D, for the sake of doing that little pop-up feature the console has. I did not mean they needed to use the full graphical power that the console can achieve.
When you speak to players of what a game requires, they generally take that to mean what it requires from the player, unless specified otherwise.  You said nothing of development and you wouldn't be the first person to ignore the slider.  Choose your words more carefully.

In a polygon game, stereoscopic 3D is little more than displaying two camera angles.  The development time is insignificant, nowhere near the required effort of, say, a 3D Classic (which requires remaking the entire game).  It does demand extra power from the system, for sure, but I already addressed that in my last post.  Games can respond to the 3D slider, and doubling the framerate while the 3D is off has been going on since launch day.  If they're killing the framerate rather than the environment to get 3D, then they're not going to make a much better-looking game without killing both.  It's been a criticism of some of the early fighting games, one of the areas where the 3DS was supposed to be strong.

Considering how many games on the Gamecube's successor look worse than a Gamecube launch title, I don't expect that third parties under-performing on 3DS has anything to do with 3D.  Poor development is poor development, and as we see in games like Star Fox and RE Revelations, solid development should be able to produce strong visuals with or without 3D.  However, third parties have not been willing to put their best foot forward with Nintendo.  The lesson they learned over the last console generation is to release shovelware to take advantage of the sheer numbers of Nintendo's userbase, and if Nintendo fails to generate a userbase ten times that of their competitors, they will surely go bankrupt.

It's no wonder Nintendo system owners don't want to buy non-Nintendo games.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on September 12, 2011, 02:53:24 AM
trend
noun
1.the general course or prevailing tendency


That's not dismissive, that's an acknowledgement of popularity.  Quit being so defensive.
I put "trend", and quoted your full statement, which said "the result of a trend, not of practicality". I wasn't acknowledging the word trend alone as your full statement, or else I would have quoted just that. But you're acknowledging its popularity as nothing more than "it's just good because everyone uses it". I'm acusing you of thinking dual analogs aren't the best solution for camera control in consoles, and they're just used because all kiddies like it nowadays. Which couldn't be more wrong from the truth. It's the best way. It's the new standard because of practicality, because of how well it works in every single way.

Honestly, I think the fact that it seems to me you've stuck to Nintendo-only consoles all your life has put you in a very biased position. Complaining about the damn analog cradling spots? When has any game whatsoever ever needed those? I remember people complaining about those when the Gamecube and the Wii came out, saying "we're not babies anymore!". Heck, even Nintendo has succumbed to a controller with dual analogs for their new console. Every single current console in the market now has two analogs, and if there was ANY way to freely move a camera better than with a right analog, you honestly think it wouldn't have shown up in any other game whatsoever? None? The pointer isn't any better, or all games would be played in tournaments with pointers. But it's slow and cumbersome to aim at the side of your screen, much slower than to simply click an analog in one side. Maybe triggers? Wrong, it takes two whole fingers, and it only serves the purpose of left and right camera control. What about tank controls? That takes away the player's control of the camera itself, by making him be pointed only to the direction he's running. Worked really well on Bubsy 3D, didn't it? What about camera lock? Still bad, because you have to keep turning your character and pressing a button, just to look in a direction. Oh, maybe lock-on? No, because that relies on the game to tell you which enemies you must be turned towards, instead of you picking them yourself, taking control away from you. Right d-pad, like in the Wiimote? Halfway decent but still not as good as an analog. So WHAT? Tell me, what is the prefered solution for camera control on console games? For platformers, when you need to see something below the platform in front of you? For first person games, when you need to strafe onto a corridor in order to not get shot in the head? For action games, when you want a better look on the side, but a bit above you, to be able to dodge an enemy's move accordingly? Heck, what about third person stealth games? How are you even going to look around your character without an analog? MGS3 was remade entirely in order to use the right analog, for nothing but ease of control. Oh, let's look at a full movement game! You can fly, shoot and pretty much attack in all directions, how are you going to manage something like that without a turning mechanism fast enough to turn the whole camera around to the exact required spot, with a control system that becomes second nature to the player using it?

Once again, fox and the grapes. For curiosity's sake, do you play any non-Nintendo consoles? Any non-Nintendo games in those? Because you seem to be VERY biased in your opinions, purely because you have never played any games that make frequent use of this mechanic. And by that, I mean 90% of any kind of direct control games nowadays.

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When you speak to players of what a game requires, they generally take that to mean what it requires from the player, unless specified otherwise.  You said nothing of development and you wouldn't be the first person to ignore the slider.  Choose your words more carefully.

In a polygon game, stereoscopic 3D is little more than displaying two camera angles.  The development time is insignificant, nowhere near the required effort of, say, a 3D Classic (which requires remaking the entire game).  It does demand extra power from the system, for sure, but I already addressed that in my last post.  Games can respond to the 3D slider, and doubling the framerate while the 3D is off has been going on since launch day.  If they're killing the framerate rather than the environment to get 3D, then they're not going to make a much better-looking game without killing both.  It's been a criticism of some of the early fighting games, one of the areas where the 3DS was supposed to be strong.

Considering how many games on the Gamecube's successor look worse than a Gamecube launch title, I don't expect that third parties under-performing on 3DS has anything to do with 3D.  Poor development is poor development, and as we see in games like Star Fox and RE Revelations, solid development should be able to produce strong visuals with or without 3D.  However, third parties have not been willing to put their best foot forward with Nintendo.  The lesson they learned over the last console generation is to release shovelware to take advantage of the sheer numbers of Nintendo's userbase, and if Nintendo fails to generate a userbase ten times that of their competitors, they will surely go bankrupt.

It's no wonder Nintendo system owners don't want to buy non-Nintendo games.
Completely ignoring the 3D slider, on a console that has 3D in its name, with a wide-open light in front of my eyes? It's like you're calling me stupid.

Processing power is wasted on rendering two separate screens, and yes, it takes quite a bit of development time to produce the stereoscopic effect. It's not something you can just slap on there. I can't be arsed to give you any detailed explanation. Google it or something.

And I think it's funny how you blame third parties when so far, Nintendo has just been releasing ports and games that have been below the expectations, while third party games like Resi, Beyond the Labyrinth and Kingdom Hearts seem to be the one taking the biggest advantage of the 3DS. Nintendo's failing to demonstrate anything of interest here. The Wii's main issue, is that most developers who made good games for it, ended up selling very little. And nobody wanted to make games exclusive to a single, outdated console when they had two other bigger beasts in the market. So, yes. Nintendo reaped the profits. It was a different matter on the 3DS, because it was a fresh, new technology in a market where the only competitor they had was a new guy.


TL;DR version:

Basically, stop going all conspiracy theory, just because you don't like the truth. Dual analogs are popular because they're the best way to control free camera, not because they're the most used. Third party games tank on the Wii, because Nintendo created a console where most people who buy it, buy games for popularity and the Nintendo brand instead of quality. You did the same thing in that conspiracy theory of yours, that Sonic games get bad reviews because every single reviewer hates them... they're bad! Occam's Razor.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on September 12, 2011, 03:14:05 AM
I can't be arsed to give you any detailed explanation.

Wall of text: Check
Detailed explanation: No Check
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on September 12, 2011, 04:13:20 AM
Wall of text: Check
Detailed explanation: No Check
You seriously think I'm gonna waste my time in crafting a careful explanation on how stereoscopic videogames are made, when you give me answers of that caliber?

Also, wasn't talking to you.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on September 12, 2011, 05:34:28 AM
It uses two Points of View.

Well, that was hard to explain.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on September 12, 2011, 11:11:53 AM
Everyone knows how the stereoscopic 3D effect works on the human eye, I'm talking about how they are developed. Read posts before answering to them, or you look like an idiot.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: The Drunken Dishwasher on September 12, 2011, 12:50:43 PM
I wonder how jumping around walls, scaling buildings and jumping from pole to pole in KH3Ds will be like in the 3D effect...

Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on September 12, 2011, 01:12:39 PM
No matter how much crap Nomura's gotten us through in the past, he knows how to optimize a system to give him great visuals, and fluid gameplay. KH 3D won't disappoint. I just hope the button configuration in the game works well. But so far, it seems to play like Birth By Sleep, with acrobatics.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on September 13, 2011, 05:24:41 AM
I interrupt whatever discussion you were having to inform that a new Mario Tenis was just announced.

That is all.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on September 13, 2011, 05:29:24 AM
Make that a new Fire Emblem too.

...and was that a new Square Enix IP just now?

...and a Kid Icarus anime.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Align on September 13, 2011, 09:18:00 AM
...and a Kid Icarus anime.
Personally I was hoping for a Saturday morning cartoon.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on September 13, 2011, 10:44:33 AM
The new games revealed in the press conference seem pretty cool.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXtcMScQb10[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z7mVocUMlM[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn7_KSucMDk[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4UNnfwiISE[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKD4xXU4ljU[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q0OosCOxrw[/youtube]

Also, it seems the second analog will run off an AAA battery.
http://mynintendonews.com/2011/09/13/nintendo-3ds-nintendo-3ds-second-circle-pad-add-on-dated-and-priced/
The [tornado fang]?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Krystal on September 13, 2011, 04:56:12 PM
\Too bad the 3DS has region locking/

I was seriously wondering about that too...I mean, people still use AAA batteries...?!
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on September 13, 2011, 06:01:40 PM
I was seriously wondering about that too...I mean, people still use AAA batteries...?!

My TV remote uses them!
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Reaperoid on September 13, 2011, 06:05:30 PM
I was seriously wondering about that too...I mean, people still use AAA batteries...?!
You don't have enough unnecessary gadgets, methinks. I think I have a D-cell something or other lying around, too.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on September 13, 2011, 06:06:09 PM
\Too bad the 3DS has region locking/

I was seriously wondering about that too...I mean, people still use AAA batteries...?!

What? They could have at least added an extra battery slot for a second 3DS battery.

My TV remote uses them!

My Roku remote uses them, and I think it's retarded. AAs would fit just fine.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on September 13, 2011, 06:30:59 PM
Personally I‘m glad they are AAA. I have dozens of them in my house that serve no use at all while I‘m always struggling to find working AA ones that are not already being used by something else.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on September 13, 2011, 06:33:44 PM
Costco provides me with so many batteries in one case that I never have to really worry about batteries.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on September 13, 2011, 09:09:02 PM
Just... why can't they plug it in? I don't think it would drain the 3DS' batteries that much. It's embarassing, really.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on September 13, 2011, 09:19:50 PM
Just... why can't they plug it in? I don't think it would drain the 3DS' batteries that much. It's embarassing, really.

If they did that it could affect battery benchmarks. If it uses a battery I have a feeling it could have some other purpose.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on September 13, 2011, 10:03:25 PM
If they did that it could affect battery benchmarks. If it uses a battery I have a feeling it could have some other purpose.
Better be a damn good purpose if it's gonna need a whole AAA battery just for it.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Psycho Yuffie on September 13, 2011, 10:06:43 PM
Apparently, 3DS sales have increased by 206% since the price drop.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Turian on September 13, 2011, 11:11:21 PM
Now how many of those announced games do you think will actually come stateside? I'm betting we never see fire emblem, bravely default, either monster hunter, or the other anime styled games.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Psycho Yuffie on September 13, 2011, 11:24:45 PM
Some RPG's better come here because those are pretty much the only games that I play.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on September 13, 2011, 11:31:04 PM
Some RPG's better come here because those are pretty much the only games that I play.
That explains alot.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on September 13, 2011, 11:58:46 PM
That explains alot.
That explains a lot.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on September 14, 2011, 12:24:07 AM
I have to admit it is pretty hard to get excited about Fire Emblem after what happened with Heroes of Light and Shadow...  Soon as they announce a U.S. release, then I'll be jumping off the walls and stuff.

I could easily see Monster Hunter Tri-G skipping us, but I would certainly hope that 4, being a full sequel, would make the cut.  Yay for stradle-stabbing wyverns!
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on September 14, 2011, 12:39:45 AM
I have to admit it is pretty hard to get excited about Fire Emblem after what happened with Heroes of Light and Shadow...  Soon as they announce a U.S. release, then I'll be jumping off the walls and stuff.

I could easily see Monster Hunter Tri-G skipping us, but I would certainly hope that 4, being a full sequel, would make the cut.  Yay for stradle-stabbing wyverns!
4 will come out. I'm more than certain, due to it being a big game, with a big reputation. They wouldn't risk it just making it for a single region.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Align on September 14, 2011, 01:14:39 PM
I just wish Fire Emblem would go back to 2D. Somehow it was much more visually impressive.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on September 14, 2011, 03:19:36 PM
What I'd love, would be if they made a Fire Emblem game (I don't care if it's a spinoff for the sake of not pissing off the purists) with the depth and amazing gameplay of a strategy game, ala the Shogun: Total War series. I'd love to lead an army into battle and pick tactics on the fly like that. And get to strategize and send ninja to kill my adversaries while managing my conquering tactics.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on September 15, 2011, 03:24:42 AM
(http://nintendo3ds.davidturnbull.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Circle-Pad-5.jpg)

(http://nintendo3ds.davidturnbull.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Circle-Pad-7.jpg)

[spoiler](http://nintendo3ds.davidturnbull.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Circle-Pad-4.jpg)
(http://nintendo3ds.davidturnbull.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Circle-Pad-6.jpg)
[/spoiler]

It looks dull as dirt. But if it's appropriately responsive and comfortable, that's all I need from it right now.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on September 15, 2011, 04:01:02 AM
(http://nintendo3ds.davidturnbull.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Circle-Pad-5.jpg)

(http://nintendo3ds.davidturnbull.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Circle-Pad-7.jpg)

[spoiler](http://nintendo3ds.davidturnbull.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Circle-Pad-4.jpg)
(http://nintendo3ds.davidturnbull.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Circle-Pad-6.jpg)
[/spoiler]

It looks dull as dirt. But if it's appropriately responsive and comfortable, that's all I need from it right now.

What are those back triggers for?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on September 15, 2011, 04:15:57 AM
Those 2 in the back will probably "overwrite" the standard 3DS L and R shoulder buttons, as it looks like a pain to reach with this thing attached. And I'd guess that smaller shoulder button is R3. Like a GC controller.

But this is just speculation for now, until we get proper info.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on September 15, 2011, 04:27:47 AM
Those 2 in the back will probably "overwrite" the standard 3DS L and R shoulder buttons, as it looks like a pain to reach with this thing attached. And I'd guess that smaller shoulder button is R3. Like a GC controller.

But this is just speculation for now, until we get proper info.

If the back ones "overwirte" the normal ones, why is there a front one on the side that extends and why is the normal L button left available?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on September 15, 2011, 04:37:20 AM
From the looks of it both Original Shoulder buttons are available.

Must just be an option for people who want Playstation style control.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on September 15, 2011, 04:48:58 AM
@ xnam - Um, what? It's exactly as I said.

Just imagine that the 3DS L & R shoulder buttons aren't there. What becomes functional are the L and R triggers on the peripheral. The smaller shoulder button above the right trigger is likely a new R2 button (I apologize for saying R3 last time, maybe I caused confusion) used for games like MH Tri G.

The 3DS shoulder buttons lose function, in replace for the peripheral.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on September 15, 2011, 05:14:52 AM
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/i_30718.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on September 15, 2011, 06:21:31 AM
@ xnam - Um, what? It's exactly as I said.

Just imagine that the 3DS L & R shoulder buttons aren't there. What becomes functional are the L and R triggers on the peripheral. The smaller shoulder button above the right trigger is likely a new R2 button (I apologize for saying R3 last time, maybe I caused confusion) used for games like MH Tri G.

The 3DS shoulder buttons lose function, in replace for the peripheral.

Seems odd they would lose function and also be left available. They made holes in the design to make them available, but the two buttons replace them completely?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on September 15, 2011, 09:22:05 AM
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It looks dull as dirt. But if it's appropriately responsive and comfortable, that's all I need from it right now.
...And I thought the first analog stick was put in a somewhat akward place.  Though now it seems like a game controller, I worry about how this would be used in conjunction with the A,B,X, and Y buttons right next to it, I mean it looks like it could slip off easily and hit those buttons when you don't want to. I kinda wonder if they were planning on doing this in the first place why couldn't they just made the 3DS with a small USB port and make this an attachment.  That would make it seem a bit less akward but then again the analog should have been on the bottom in the first place in my opinion.  I also wonder what the purpose of that giant screw on the interior of that thing is for and I'm scared of the fact that it looks like the place you put the batteries in.

The worst part is that I bought armor for my 3DS since my DSi XL got so scrathed up, but now it can't fit on this monstrocity and will add a lot more bulk in my purse if I decide to get this.  I'm so glad I mainly play RPG's.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on September 15, 2011, 09:53:28 AM
@ xnam - Um, what? It's exactly as I said.

Just imagine that the 3DS L & R shoulder buttons aren't there. What becomes functional are the L and R triggers on the peripheral. The smaller shoulder button above the right trigger is likely a new R2 button (I apologize for saying R3 last time, maybe I caused confusion) used for games like MH Tri G.

The 3DS shoulder buttons lose function, in replace for the peripheral.

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L is on the 3DS, R is on the add-on. And ZL and ZR are on the add-on as secondary triggers.
R on the 3DS is left available for some reason. Maybe  for the Charging port.

Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on September 15, 2011, 10:42:47 AM
Do we not yet have any confirmation as to what the batteries are needed for?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on September 15, 2011, 11:16:06 AM
Do we not yet have any confirmation as to what the batteries are needed for?

What does it connect to? The Data/Charge connection is untouched. It can't plug into the game slot. Stylus slot is silly. All that is left is the IR port or Bluetooth.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Kieran on September 15, 2011, 01:45:51 PM
That and adding any further draw to the 3DS would just make its already abysmal battery life even worse.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on September 15, 2011, 07:24:44 PM
That and adding any further draw to the 3DS would just make its already abysmal battery life even worse.

The same could be said of all religions.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Kieran on September 15, 2011, 09:11:32 PM
Er, what?  If that was an attempt at humor, I'm sorry to say it went about a mile over my head.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on September 15, 2011, 09:28:19 PM
Er, what?  If that was an attempt at humor, I'm sorry to say it went about a mile over my head.
The same could be said at all attempts at humor through memes.

Anyway, I honestly can't see a single reason why it'd drain more power, seeing as it's simply new inputs. It's like having independent batteries for connected headphones.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on September 15, 2011, 09:40:44 PM
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L is on the 3DS, R is on the add-on. And ZL and ZR are on the add-on as secondary triggers.
R on the 3DS is left available for some reason. Maybe  for the Charging port.

As I said before, that was simply speculation. Now that I actually see it reads ZL and ZR, yes, It would indicate that they are secondary.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Satoryu on September 15, 2011, 11:25:08 PM
If there's no hard connection between the 3DS and the add on, then it must be connected wirelessly. That would explain why it needs its own power source.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on September 16, 2011, 12:02:45 AM
Why would they not use a hard connection when using a peripheral that goes around the whole machine?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on September 16, 2011, 01:12:00 AM
Either they had a hard time reversing the power flow through the charging port, or they decided that the 3DS's battery life kinda demands the option of leaving the system plugged in.

Guessing the actual input on the thing works through the IR port, otherwise you'd think they'd leave the stylus uncovered.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on September 16, 2011, 01:34:31 AM
I'm just confused about it. If it's got a battery, it has to be used for something other than new buttons. Specially with the all-around design it has, which seems to make the 3DS into a kind of big controller grip. I'm thinking there's more than we're seeing here.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Turian on September 16, 2011, 01:34:54 AM
Why not have it charge the 3DS? It could have plugged into the charging port and had its own battery. It could even use the same type of battery the 3DS currently uses. This would have extended the 3DS's battery life and made the product more appealing,
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on September 16, 2011, 01:39:38 AM
To sell at $15 it's obviously a quick-and-dirty solution.

If it were just a second stick I'd fully expect "3DS Lite" to have its own, but I'm wondering how 4 shoulder buttons would maintain a decent profile on a normal handheld.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on September 16, 2011, 01:45:26 AM
Why not have it charge the 3DS? It could have plugged into the charging port and had its own battery. It could even use the same type of battery the 3DS currently uses. This would have extended the 3DS's battery life and made the product more appealing,

It might have been too expensive if it used a separate Lithium Ion battery. Using a AAA battery for its source is no doubt a more cost efficient way to sell on the market.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on September 16, 2011, 01:52:59 AM
It was 20 bucks in Japan the last time I've seen it. I do like the fact that they're adding in shoulder sticks too. Plus, both clickable ones and triggers! Both kinds allow for way more variation. If they brought me a new Metroid/whatever with this setup, it'd be quite comfortable.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on September 16, 2011, 01:53:32 AM
I'm just confused about it. If it's got a battery, it has to be used for something other than new buttons. Specially with the all-around design it has, which seems to make the 3DS into a kind of big controller grip. I'm thinking there's more than we're seeing here.

It uses IR to connect to the 3DS, so it needs batteries in the exact same way your TV remote does. That's all there is to it.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on September 16, 2011, 04:49:02 AM
Who's to say the charging port can't be used and still put a port capable of charging on the add-on?

Who's to say that port can even send and receive data?

Maybe it's part of a vastly thought out plan with variables we aren't considering.

Maybe this is the best they can do on short notice and they didn't really think about it at all.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on September 16, 2011, 09:17:32 AM
It uses IR to connect to the 3DS, so it needs batteries in the exact same way your TV remote does. That's all there is to it.
Confirmed, or speculation? And won't that cause a bit of lag in automatic response?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Reaperoid on September 16, 2011, 09:20:09 AM
Looks more like a glorified controller now, be cool to see what throwing WiiU into the equation does.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on September 17, 2011, 06:08:25 AM
IR was pure speculation on my part...

It was 20 bucks in Japan the last time I've seen it. I do like the fact that they're adding in shoulder sticks too. Plus, both clickable ones and triggers! Both kinds allow for way more variation. If they brought me a new Metroid/whatever with this setup, it'd be quite comfortable.
20 bucks by the same logic that said the 3DS would be 300.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on September 17, 2011, 12:12:34 PM
IR was pure speculation on my part...
20 bucks by the same logic that said the 3DS would be 300.
It ironically ended up being close to 300 in most of the world anyway. =P
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on September 17, 2011, 01:06:15 PM
It ironically ended up being close to 300 in most of the world anyway. =P

I think that's mostly due to every country having the same number despite the worth of their monies. I don't know if it applies to the 3DS, but it seems common.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on September 17, 2011, 01:27:29 PM
I think that's mostly due to every country having the same number despite the worth of their monies. I don't know if it applies to the 3DS, but it seems common.
Also due to the dollar being in the shitter. 8D
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on September 17, 2011, 04:16:51 PM
It ironically ended up being close to 300 in most of the world anyway. =P
Perhaps, but I'm speaking of a likely domestic price, not a foreign currency exchange.  250 wasn't considered "close to" 300 back before the 3DS's price was announced.

As xnamkcor said, a regional price is not based on currency exchange rates (funny how few people pointed out that the release price in yen of the Wii and 3DS were identical, instead opting for the $300 exchange rate figure).  That's why Nintendo loved it when the yen was weak, they get more money from their international sales that way.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on September 17, 2011, 10:08:37 PM
Perhaps, but I'm speaking of a likely domestic price, not a foreign currency exchange.  250 wasn't considered "close to" 300 back before the 3DS's price was announced.

As xnamkcor said, a regional price is not based on currency exchange rates (funny how few people pointed out that the release price in yen of the Wii and 3DS were identical, instead opting for the $300 exchange rate figure).  That's why Nintendo loved it when the yen was weak, they get more money from their international sales that way.
Yep. All companies take advantage of that "unspoken rule", of making European products cost the same currency units as in the US, completely putting aside the fact that the €uro is much higher than the dollar. Meaning, we get $112 games and $300 consoles. Nintendo's the biggest offender, due to their stubborness to make sales prices go up in many regions, and their games retaining the same price through the years.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Reaperoid on September 18, 2011, 10:46:43 AM
It's the same here. The $AUD has been in (and passed) parity for a while now, yet Nintendo is hesitant to reduce prices first-party titles, which are in the range of 55~65$ for DS and 80~100$ for Wii. Still, it's probably because the Australian market is a premium, for such a sparcely populated area and all that.

Nintendo does all measures of strange things here, though. OoT3D had a street date break here, but only because the last remaining indie retailer here parallel imported UK stock and put pressure on the big chains who were in exclusive deals with Ninty.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Bueno Excelente on September 18, 2011, 12:50:38 PM
It's the same here. The $AUD has been in (and passed) parity for a while now, yet Nintendo is hesitant to reduce prices first-party titles, which are in the range of 55~65$ for DS and 80~100$ for Wii. Still, it's probably because the Australian market is a premium, for such a sparcely populated area and all that.

Nintendo does all measures of strange things here, though. OoT3D had a street date break here, but only because the last remaining indie retailer here parallel imported UK stock and put pressure on the big chains who were in exclusive deals with Ninty.
Exactly. And with Nintendo, I... don't really see a willingness to sell me games. Remember the Super Mario All-Stars Anniversary Edition? It was the equivalent of 40 bucks around here. Most Wii games, good or bad, shovelware or otherwise, are always at the price standard of a PS3/360 game. I own SIX Wii games, including Sports. The rest I sold shortly after buying, because I couldn't justify keeping most of them, and many still fetch a good price. Most sell through the used market, which is always out of games to sell.

Just get your [parasitic bomb] together, Nintendo. Make me WANT to buy your games. Me and the rest of the european consumers.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Reaperoid on September 18, 2011, 01:00:44 PM
Not to mention Nintendo Points are still 15$/1000pts. I'd be getting far more bang for my buck if I had an American console right now.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on November 09, 2011, 03:04:26 AM
Although certainly minor compared to the woes of a PAL gamer, something that irritates me with Nintendo currency-wise is that they insist on only allowing one to deposit points/money into their online shops in fixed increments.  It's a minor inconvenience when you're eyeing a ton of $8 games on any system, but the 3DS got considerably worse.  Nintendo points charge you sales tax up front, meaning that buying a $20 card for Wii or DSi (or for that matter depositing that amount via credit card) means you actually can buy two $10 games, in exchange for an extra few cents up front.

Not so with the 3DS.  By abandoning points, deposits ignore sales tax.  So you deposit, say, $10, cuz you're eyeing two $5 games.  Well, the $4.99 becomes $5.29, leaving you with $4.71 to leave sit for the hell of it.

If they want to deal with real money, there really is no excuse for not offering the ability to make deposits in exact amounts.



In other news, 3DS firmware update (http://www.joystiq.com/2011/11/04/us-copies-of-super-mario-3d-land-also-include-firmware-update/) is incoming with Super Mario 3D Land.  It packs new security that will likely be broken in a day or so, but more importantly, it adds a "Join Game" option to the Friends List.

'bout freaking time.  I wonder if it'll let you "page" someone playing a multiplayer game to request one (kinda like Mario Kart DS; dunno why they stopped doing that), or if this is just if someone is actively looking for an online matchup?  Glad to see Nintendo's taking SOME steps in making it easier to hook up, though I'm still waiting to see them make more extensive use of chatting (with Friends, I mean; I don't care for some 11-year-old telling me where to stick my blue shell).

Posted on: November 06, 2011, 01:04:16 AM
More news, there's a Zelda-themed 3DS (http://ds.ign.com/articles/121/1211916p1.html) coming out in Europe.  Waiting to see if it's hitting other territories as well.

Naturally, everyone and their dog is bitching about how this once again screws over early adopters.  'cuz you know, 20 free games is so much less valuable than a paint job, and all special/limited edition hardware ever made should be available for the system launch day.
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I think it looks gorgeous, but I'm happy to stick with my megafied (http://arcangeraziel.deviantart.com/art/Megaman-Legends-3-3DS-Skin-258710848) 3DS.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on November 09, 2011, 04:35:07 AM
Love my sexy red 3DS!

But the Zelda design is pretty nice!
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Kieran on November 09, 2011, 06:09:13 PM
The only thing worse than a glossy green or red handheld is a glossy black one.  It looks nice, but if you expect to actually play the thing, you'll be spending 90% of your time wiping fingerprints off of it.

Heh.  I'm half-tempted to sand the lid of my 3DS down to a matte finish.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on November 09, 2011, 08:14:12 PM
The only thing worse than a glossy green or red handheld is a glossy black one.  It looks nice, but if you expect to actually play the thing, you'll be spending 90% of your time wiping fingerprints off of it.

Heh.  I'm half-tempted to sand the lid of my 3DS down to a matte finish.

If Cleaning it actually takes more than 50% of your time with it, you might have some mental problems.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on November 12, 2011, 11:37:54 PM
I'd link to it if I weren't on my phone and lazy, but that Zelda 3DS bundle is supposedly heading stateside.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on November 13, 2011, 08:57:39 AM
http://tinycartridge.com/post/12712322157/mugen-power-battery-extender-for-the-3ds-if-you

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- Mugen Power battery extender for the 3DS
- increases 3DS’s battery by 4.4 times
- comes in Cosmo Black or Aqua Blue colors
- ¥9,800 ($126)

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Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on November 13, 2011, 12:36:39 PM
4.4 is half of 8.8 Is this a sign about the Zelda coming to 3DS?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on November 13, 2011, 06:15:49 PM
I'd link to it if I weren't on my phone and lazy, but that Zelda 3DS bundle is supposedly heading stateside.

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Post by: N-Mario on November 13, 2011, 06:46:07 PM
Mugen? I wonder why they chose that name. It's already used in the fighting game community. :-/

Don't see why we need a battery extender if there is nothing wrong with its current battery life. Unless Nintendo REALLY needs it for better performance of their games. :\
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on November 13, 2011, 07:33:10 PM
Mugen? I wonder why they chose that name. It's already used in the fighting game community. :-/

Don't see why we need a battery extender if there is nothing wrong with its current battery life. Unless Nintendo REALLY needs it for better performance of their games. :\

Mugen means Infinite or Infinity.

Also, Nintendo doesn't need this for better performance of their games. How would that even work? You add a battery and you get better FPS?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Kieran on November 13, 2011, 11:32:06 PM
The fact of the matter is the 3DS's battery life is terrible.  Five hours at the absolute longest, and that's with the backlight at its dimmest, sound off and no 3D (well, that's not really as much of a problem).  If you ever forget to charge the thing, you're boned.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on November 16, 2011, 01:19:37 AM
Well, that's why it comes with a dock.  Just drop it where it belongs, and it charges.

Yeah, it's sub-par for Nintendo.  But for multi-platform-owners who tolerated the PSP, it's nothing new.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Kieran on November 16, 2011, 01:36:58 AM
I'm pretty sure my PSP lasted longer on a charge than the 3DS.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on November 16, 2011, 02:31:00 AM
I'm pretty sure my PSP lasted longer on a charge than the 3DS.

As A PSP-1001 and PSP-2001 owner, I can second this because I use my PSP-1000 battery in my PSP-2001 and I can't say I have any reasonable complaints about battery life. And my unreasonable complaints are stifled by my 10 USD purchase of an extra PSP-1000 battery.

PS: I don't own a 3DS, so I can't compare it.

PPS: Did you know you can power a PSP-1001 with a PSP-2000 battery? All you have to do is boot the PSP-1001 with the PSP-1000 battery, plug it into a wall outlet, and then swap the PSP-1000 battery for the PSP-2000 battery and make sire you hold it, firmly, in place.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on November 19, 2011, 03:48:24 PM
That's quite a sly tactic, seeings how the 1000 had a higher capacity battery.  I'm a latecomer to the PSP crowd (own only a 3000), so that didn't occur to me.

Obviously the specifics depend on system usage/settings, but the 3DS generally falls in about an hour behind the PSP (3-5 vs 4-6).  Either is pretty comparable for someone used to Nintendo's previous handhelds.

I don't even make much of an effort to conserve my 3DS's power, to be honest.  Brightness 4/5, full volume, 3D on, no Power Saver mode (the colors look ugly/bland with that thing on, especially when playing old DS games).  The dock keeps it charged when I'm not playing, and if I'm sitting in one spot long enough to get the red light, I'm probably near an outlet.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on November 25, 2011, 06:30:48 PM
Not sure if this is old, but there's a nifty little website (http://www.3ds-screenshot.com/) that you can access with the 3DS browser to look at 3D images of games. My personal favorites on the site being MK7 and the Orioto game artwork.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Kieran on December 07, 2011, 10:05:22 PM
Still curious if "before the end of the year" is actually going to happen for those Ambassador GBA games... they're running out of time on that one.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on December 07, 2011, 11:40:22 PM
Well, seeing as nintendo updates the store on Mondays, we have 3 more weeks of possibility.

Chances are its going to happen at the last possible moment.

On another note, what are everybody's thoughts on the new updates?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on December 08, 2011, 12:45:15 AM
The 3D video recording and motion capture are pretty cool. But I probably won't use those much anyway. The Mii Plaza updates are... interesting. I completed most of the Panel Puzzles already (the Zelda and Mario Galaxy puzzles look INCREDIBLE), so I guess the new additions are welcome.

Overall, I look forward to the eShop demos the most, but those aren't up yet.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on December 08, 2011, 02:10:05 AM
I only ever got one of the puzzles (Pikmin), its not bad looking. But it kind of sucks that you can't start another panel by yourself unless they decide to give you a new panel.

My second one is Pilotwings Resort, 5 pieces away from finish. (Cursed [tornado fang]ing Pink Spaces.)

I haven't even finished my first runthrough of Find Mii so Find Mii 2 does nothing for me yet.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on December 08, 2011, 03:07:51 AM
The only way to get new panels is by using Streetpass, unfortunately. So you're stuck with that one until then.

My second one is Pilotwings Resort, 5 pieces away from finish. (Cursed [tornado fang]ing Pink Spaces.)

Got the same one. What do the pink spaces mean?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on December 09, 2011, 12:18:22 AM
You can't buy them with Play Coins, you get them through Spotpass when you play online I think.

So pretty much that means I can't get them at all till I purchase MK7 or get over my Dimps hate and go for Sonic Generations.

That reminds me that I still have to get MK7... I'll just wait till Xmas...

Posted on: December 07, 2011, 09:22:00 PM
This isn't 100% 3DS Related, but apparently the NA Club Nintendo will be allowing us to use our Coins to purchase Games from the Virtual Console (Both Wii and 3DS) and Wii/3DS/DSiWare.

Link. (http://www.ripten.com/2011/12/08/north-american-club-nintendo-site-gets-updates-plus-new-rewards-including-digital-games/)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on December 10, 2011, 06:10:01 PM
And to think, I could have gotten Mario Kart for free and put those points towards something else, like DKC2 or Castlevania 4...
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on December 14, 2011, 12:50:43 PM
GBA GAMES CONFIRMED.

F-Zero: Maximum Velocity
Super Mario Advance 3: Yoshi's Island
Legend of Zelda: Minish Cap
Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones
Kirby & The Amazing Mirror
Mario Kart: Super Circuit
Mario vs. Donkey Kong
Metroid Fusion
Wario Land 4
WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Microgames

This list is hot sex.

Japan gets them on the 16th. We can only assume US users will get them on the 19th. EU Will get them whenever they update next week most likely.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: CephiYumi on December 14, 2011, 01:49:05 PM
I thought US 3DS updated on Thursdays?
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Post by: Police Girl on December 14, 2011, 01:50:37 PM
I could've sworn we got stuff on Monday and Thursday.
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Post by: CephiYumi on December 14, 2011, 02:04:13 PM
Oh if it's both then I don't know o.o
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Post by: Solar on December 14, 2011, 04:32:16 PM
There is not a single thing about that list that I don't like.
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Post by: Protoman Blues on December 14, 2011, 06:18:02 PM
Very nice. I still need to play Minish Cap. I hope they put the Oracles games on next!
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Post by: VixyNyan on December 15, 2011, 03:50:37 AM
Oh I'll have so much fun with these games this weekend~ :3
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Post by: Hypershell on December 15, 2011, 04:04:10 AM
Minish Cap's new to me as well, so that'll be damn sweet.  And one can never have enough portable Yoshi's Island.

I guess if I *REALLY* wanted to nitpick, I could say that it stinks that I only made it a point to get the GBA Fire Emblem games last summer (D'OH!), but I certainly won't object to Nintendo giving FE some more exposure (STILL waiting for Heroes of Light and Shadow...).   And in all honesty I find GP Legend and Zero Mission to be preferrable to Maximum Velocity and Fusion.

But that's REALLY, REALLY nitpicking.  The list is extraordinarily rocking in any context, let alone as free [parasitic bomb].  And it's effectively 11 games seeings how all Super Mario Advance titles include the Mario Bros. remake, which is equally awesome.
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Post by: Police Girl on December 15, 2011, 04:11:02 AM
Minish Cap's new to me as well, so that'll be damn sweet.  And one can never have enough portable Yoshi's Island.

I guess if I *REALLY* wanted to nitpick, I could say that it stinks that I only made it a point to get the GBA Fire Emblem games last summer (D'OH!), but I certainly won't object to Nintendo giving FE some more exposure (STILL waiting for Heroes of Light and Shadow...).   And in all honesty I find GP Legend and Zero Mission to be preferrable to Maximum Velocity and Fusion.

But that's REALLY, REALLY nitpicking.  The list is extraordinarily rocking in any context, let alone as free [parasitic bomb].  And it's effectively 11 games seeings how all Super Mario Advance titles include the Mario Bros. remake, which is equally awesome.

They probably didn't want to give us Zero Mission on account of the fact that its pretty similar to the original Metroid.
And probably also because it has the original Metroid and they don't want to give us the same game twice, thank you Nintendo.
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Post by: Solar on December 15, 2011, 06:17:43 AM
So these are out already for Japan and Australia. Damn it NOA, hurry up! >:/
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Post by: Kieran on December 15, 2011, 07:11:28 AM
Too bad I wouldn't be able to use a Fusion save to unlock the damn suit in my copy of Metroid Prime, finally.
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Post by: VixyNyan on December 15, 2011, 02:20:36 PM
So these are out already for Japan and Australia. Damn it NOA, hurry up! >:/

They show up on the "Download History" but no download button just yet. ^^;
It's time zone specific, so soon enough I can download them too.
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Post by: Mirby on December 15, 2011, 04:30:42 PM
Very nice. I still need to play Minish Cap. I hope they put the Oracles games on next!

Ah hell yeah. Oracles all the way~

Seriously, that would be awesome if Ninty put those up. I mean, they're phenomenal games! :3
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Post by: Hypershell on December 16, 2011, 12:32:05 AM
I'm just waiting for Xtreme2...  My original cart has been dead for a couple of years; played the hell out of the poor thing.

They probably didn't want to give us Zero Mission on account of the fact that its pretty similar to the original Metroid.
And probably also because it has the original Metroid and they don't want to give us the same game twice, thank you Nintendo.
Granted.  But there's still nothing quite as epic as that Chozodia theme.
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Post by: Police Girl on December 16, 2011, 11:35:59 AM
The GBA games are up in the US.
Apparently they don't come with Restore points, just like the NES Games.

EDIT: NINTENDO, I AM DISSAPOINT. I like how you made the GBA games have the GBA Boot noise when you go over them, but why couldn't you do what you did for the GB/GBC titles and make a little GBA Model to go around the screen? Its just like the NES Virtual Console games except smaller and purple. [/nitpick]

EDIT 2: Okay, after some beautiful re-arrangement of my 3DS Screens (I was given 4 extra pages to put crap so I naturally jammed the worthless junk at the very end.) I booted up Kirby and the Amazing Mirror to see how the GBA Emulator was like.

Its sort of like booting a GBA game in a normal DS or booting a Normal DS game in a 3DS. As in:

-No Virtual Console Menu, the bottom screen is completely black, at the beginning of the game there is a notification there stating that closing the console won't put the game in Sleep Mode, again, like a normal DS running a GBA game.
-Pressing the Home Button will ask you if you want to quit out instead of just loading the Home Menu (Like when playing a DS or DSiWare game.)
-No Restore Points, but this was to be expected seeing as they didn't give us restore points for the NES games either.

This time, unlike the bullshit they did with the NES games instruction Manuals, they gave us full manuals describing everything. This is good especially for people like me who have never played Fire Emblem, as that seems like the kind of game you would need to learn how to play.

One thing I cannot understand though is the screen, its noticably dark. Its not bright and vivid looking as most Emulators tend to capture the image, however this may just be Nintendo emulating the Screen darkness of the GBA. I don't really know.

All in all, this is just [tornado fang]ing pathetic. Its obvious that they either still had the GBA components in the 3DS and were able to use those to save them time in making an emulator, OR they went the really lazy route and just made an emulator that booted in DS Mode because they figured that since only Ambassadors are getting the games that they can slack off in making a decent emulator.

Oh well, free games. I just wish Nintendo put more effort into the presentation, seeing as they, oh I don't know, sat on this for almost half of the year. :|
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Post by: CephiYumi on December 16, 2011, 12:37:22 PM
They've already said they don't plan to release these games (and possibly GBA games in general) for purchase on the eshop.  That's why they aren't completely compatible or have all the bell and whistles that the others have.

Also I believe they said they would add restore points and things to the NES games once they are available through the eshop.
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Post by: OBJECTION MAN on December 16, 2011, 02:51:21 PM
Half assed prototype emulators for games you most likely already own; Sure makes up for ripping you off with the inflated original price of the console.
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Post by: CephiYumi on December 16, 2011, 03:29:09 PM
Half assed prototype emulators for games you most likely already own; Sure makes up for ripping you off with the inflated original price of the console.

It does for me ^^
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Post by: xnamkcor on December 16, 2011, 04:15:52 PM
It does for me ^^
Some people's children...
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Post by: CephiYumi on December 16, 2011, 05:25:37 PM
what o.o
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Post by: Police Girl on December 16, 2011, 08:40:44 PM
I guess I'm in no position to complain then seeing as I got my 3DS for $170 at Walmart right before the official price drop.

Half assed prototype emulators for games you most likely already own; Sure makes up for ripping you off with the inflated original price of the console.

At least you understand what I am frustrated at, minus the price.

Nintendo should probably put out an updated emulator when they release the NES games to everybody (Which we all assumed was going to be done really quickly, how wrong we were.), one that includes a [tornado fang]ing multiplayer solution seeing as three of the games have multiplayer functions that are simply wasted here (Amazing Mirror is the worst offender seeing as the whole concept was built for [tornado fang]ing Multiplayer.) there is no excuse for this, they had plenty of time to make a decent GBA emulator, something I'm even more frustrated at seeing as they MADE the GBA, yet VBA is much better than their Emulator on account of actually being able to do multiplayer by having it work online, it has save-states which Nintendo neglected to provide, AND the screen doesn't look washed out.

Maybe they needed more time, maybe they didn't have a team exclusively dedicated to developing the GBA emulator, maybe they forgot about it, panicked when they realized the end of the year was coming up, and threw this together as not to [acid burst] off the people who were promised end of the year. If they had come out and said "we could release them at the end of the year but we would like to apologize and ask that you wait till our GBA Emulator meets our quality standards, as we feel that it is incomplete and rushed." THEN, maybe people would understand, Nintendo would earn more respect points from their fans for not rushing [parasitic bomb] out for Christmas and continuing to take time to focus on the quality rather than trying to make a quick buck.

Or maybe people wouldn't understand, seeing as they had four months to develop it some people would never forgive Nintendo for going back on their promise of end of the year. I don't really [tornado fang]ing know.
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Post by: Solar on December 16, 2011, 10:05:15 PM
You're frustrated because we got exactly what they said we'd get? If you don't remember that, then you probably don't remember the whole getting versions of this that work like the rest of the VC when/if they update them. Right now it's not even an emulator, they're working the same way the DS games are. The reason for no multiplayer? You can't connect Link Cables to the 3DS.
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Post by: OBJECTION MAN on December 16, 2011, 11:45:22 PM
The hard truth is, they really don't give a [parasitic bomb]. Why? Because it's not earning them profit.
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Post by: CephiYumi on December 17, 2011, 12:24:40 AM
If they didn't give a [parasitic bomb] they wouldn't have done anything in the first place...
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Post by: Hypershell on December 17, 2011, 01:06:48 AM
No, folks, this emulator is not running in "DS mode".  DS mode would not be able to create an image that stretches beyond the DS's aspect ratio (GBA is 3:2, DS is 4:3, 3DS top screen is 5:3).  For a GBA game to use the full screen height and still stretch beyond the width of the bottom screen, that is a 3DS mode emulator.

The colors might be SLIGHTLY pale, but my idea of "washed out" is a frontlit GBA SP screen (AGS-001 as opposed to AGS-101).  This is nowhere near as bad.  I'd say it's more faithful than the wackiness we've already seen on Wii's NES Virtual Console (painfully evident in Mega Man).

Yes, the proper home/sleep functions don't work.  As they do not work for any legacy DS game.  The system will shut off the screen and speakers when folded shut, but the game is still running.  So, pause it first. -AC  No, I don't understand why Nintendo can't get a GBA game to sleep either, but it's a trivial point.

I'd appreciate the option for a Y/B control setup as opposed to B/A, but that holds for the NES emulator as well.

Overall, if this is your idea of bad emulation, then thank God you were never in on the DS homebrew scene.  Or, for that matter, the Wii VC's Genesis emulation, which you pay $8 a game for and it doesn't even recognize a goddamn control stick.  We're getting free, competent [parasitic bomb] before anyone else has the option to pay for it; I'm not complaining.

You're frustrated because we got exactly what they said we'd get? If you don't remember that, then you probably don't remember the whole getting versions of this that work like the rest of the VC when/if they update them. Right now it's not even an emulator, they're working the same way the DS games are. The reason for no multiplayer? You can't connect Link Cables to the 3DS.
You can't run a GBA game on a non-GBA system and call it anything but emulation.  It's not "hardware emulation" as I imagine you meant to say, because any Nintendo system that lacks a GBA port also lacks GBA BIOS and sound circuitry.  That topic came up pretty much weekly when the DSi first came out.

It does for me ^^
Same.  Funny how people will pay for games we already own with a smile, but then they're free, it's a shitstorm.

The hard truth is, they really don't give a [parasitic bomb]. Why? Because it's not earning them profit.
Because Nintendo, with profits driving them, was totally into savestates, control configurations, and network connectivity on their last system's Virtual Console.
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Post by: Gaia on December 17, 2011, 01:27:06 AM
I'm not sure what's the big deal here. I think the choices are all fine and dandy. I know a couple of guys who'd perfer Mario and Luigi over any select mario title, but it's all opinion. Plus it gives me a chance to play those titles I may have missed. And I'm okay with that.
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Post by: OBJECTION MAN on December 17, 2011, 02:41:02 AM
If they didn't give a [parasitic bomb] they wouldn't have done anything in the first place...

No. They had to do something. Early adopters would have rioted, metaphorically (or maybe literally too), over this if there was no compensation for them getting completely [tornado fang]'d over. Which would have lead to lower profit. They instead found the cheapest way to help smooth over the situation.

No, I don't understand why Nintendo can't get a GBA game to sleep either, but it's a trivial point.

I don't think I can agree here. It's a damn staple feature now. Not to mention, if you're wanting to go into sleep mode, its for a good reason, and with the 3DS's already crappy battery life you could be facing a system shut down before getting to an outlet in time. Not to mention, not every game lets you pause anywhere.

I'd appreciate the option for a Y/B control setup as opposed to B/A, but that holds for the NES emulator as well.

Ridiculous. Just completely unacceptable, no matter what time period it's made in.

Overall, if this is your idea of bad emulation, then thank God you were never in on the DS homebrew scene.  Or, for that matter, the Wii VC's Genesis emulation, which you pay $8 a game for and it doesn't even recognize a goddamn control stick.

Comparing it to even more unacceptable garbage doesn't make it good. It makes it not as bad as even less acceptable garbage. That isn't good enough.

If they cannot implement even basic STANDARD functions (and I'm not even asking for much, I dont even want save states), that free emulators have had for OVER A DECADE, then I see no reason to even grace them with a purchase. Granted these are free, but for people who weren't early adopters it wont be. Even for free, playing with the A/B strictly will become a discomforting experience I probably won't enjoy. It would take like a DAY to add in an AB YB swap. Seriously. No excuse for not including it.

This will be another underwhelming, gimped Virtual Console just like the Wii was. Why should I bother buying them here, when I can get a better portable experience with the SAME games out of my PSP already without even paying.

I'd like to buy some old titles now and then, but damn if Nintendo does everything in their power to make me NOT want to. If you want me to fork over cash, you best be pretty damn close, if not better, than what is being offered to me already for free. In this case, they aren't even remotely close. Hell, even being FREE, I have much better FREE alternatives.

I don't feel compensated for being charged nearly double at all. Of course, all of this wouldn't matter to me if MEGAMAN LEGENDS 3 WAS STILL BEING MADE.

[tornado fang]
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Post by: CephiYumi on December 17, 2011, 03:21:11 AM
No. They had to do something. Early adopters would have rioted, metaphorically (or maybe literally too), over this if there was no compensation for them getting completely [tornado fang]'d over.

Rofl, I hear this all the time.  You guys never do anything.  And if you do?  So what, they loose their more insane fanbase x3  If you are an early adopter you have nobody to blame but yourself if you feel "ripped off" from the price drop.  Nobody held a gun to your head telling you to buy early, and if you've been into video games for a few years you should know that getting the first run of any consoles or portables is a horrible idea as they are usually the least stable.  It's best and more cost effective to jus wait until a better version comes along.  If you can't wait then that's fine, but jus know that it's on you then ^^;
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Post by: Hypershell on December 17, 2011, 04:25:04 AM
You know you're in [parasitic bomb] when you put Cephi on the offensive. XD

She makes an awfully good point.  I mean, if you thought it was overpriced at $250, the very simple solution is to not buy it, especially easy since the killer apps didn't come until last month.  I bought the hunk of junk on day one, I love it, but not everyone's as crazy as I am and I know it.  To me, it was worth it.  When you want to be a launch day fanboy, you take all risks that come with it.

And for God's sake, we're talking about the company that's now selling its last-gen handheld for TEN BUCKS LESS than the current one.  I think their riot police are already out in full force for them to have the balls to pull a stunt like that.

Why should I bother buying them here, when I can get a better portable experience with the SAME games out of my PSP already without even paying.
Simple answer: You shouldn't.

Official emulation exists for one reason: So that we can be good little drones with a clean conscience, a bare interface, a framerate that never reminds us that we're not really playing the original, and the right to never bear witness to compatibility issues that don't involve some kind of extra peripheral.  But it will NEVER be as full-featured as the free hackers because they are not viewed as legitimate competition.  The fact that the free unauthorized stuff is superior in its selection of options and features is a simple fact of life.

That's like asking why shouldn't you hack your DVD player to ignore unskippable previews.  Or, another example, I know damn well that no matter how amusing any DSi/3DS music player may be, it'll never hold a candle to Moonshell.  As consumers, legitimate-vs-hacked isn't a matter of value in the usual sense.  It's a matter of taking the high road when we are satisfied, and cheating the cheap bastards when we're not.

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Of course, all of this wouldn't matter to me if MEGAMAN LEGENDS 3 WAS STILL BEING MADE.

[tornado fang]
On that, we most certainly agree.
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Post by: Police Girl on December 17, 2011, 04:29:30 AM
I'm not sure what's the big deal here. I think the choices are all fine and dandy.

I never complained about the choice of games, I've only been bitching about the blatant laziness put into this emulator. I feel that while it was nice for them to include Amazing Mirror it loses out on the Multiplayer, which is arguably a major part of the game.
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Post by: OBJECTION MAN on December 17, 2011, 04:40:00 AM
Rofl, I hear this all the time.  You guys never do anything.  And if you do?  So what, they loose their more insane fanbase x3  If you are an early adopter you have nobody to blame but yourself if you feel "ripped off" from the price drop.  Nobody held a gun to your head telling you to buy early, and if you've been into video games for a few years you should know that getting the first run of any consoles or portables is a horrible idea as they are usually the least stable.  It's best and more cost effective to jus wait until a better version comes along.  If you can't wait then that's fine, but jus know that it's on you then ^^;

No matter how you want to justify it, a price drop by that much in that short of a time is just a sleazy move by any standard. I did not feel cheated by the GBA SP, or the DSlite & DSi. But this was unacceptable.

She makes an awfully good point.  I mean, if you thought it was overpriced at $250, the very simple solution is to not buy it

Over priced or not, which I felt it wasn't that much, it doesn't negate the shady move they pulled. In addition, their make up plan was good in concept but executed with the obvious intent of minimizing any real payback. It just shows a disrespect to the consumer.

Nobody feels the need to compete with people who, from the big business's point of view, are stealing from them.

And that's why they all lose out. The DRM war is the same way as well. This is exactly the attitude the major companies need to kick. Indie devs are really waking up to this, and they're prospering by it. These practices cheat the honest consumer, and make piracy look awfully more lucrative.
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Post by: Gaia on December 17, 2011, 04:46:12 AM
I never complained about the choice of games, I've only been bitching about the blatant laziness put into this emulator. I feel that while it was nice for them to include Amazing Mirror it loses out on the Multiplayer, which is arguably a major part of the game.

I'm just stating that some of the fellow ambassadors were a bit dissapointed to see the list. It doesn't suprise me the least; I expected this to happen once that one backfire I dare not mention happened... or something.. You can never please everyone, I guess. I'm at least glad with the two cartriges I got for my 3DS (rest is all downloaded/brought over from DSi).
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Post by: Protoman Blues on December 17, 2011, 05:36:45 AM
No matter how you want to justify it, a price drop by that much in that short of a time is just a sleazy move by any standard. I did not feel cheated by the GBA SP, or the DSlite & DSi. But this was unacceptable.

Businesses doing sleazy moves to make a profit? Haha, stop the press. XD

Cephi's 100% right. She's not justifying anything. She's just telling you the truth. I could've easily afforded a 3DS at the time. I decided to wait because I knew it'd not only eventually be cheaper, but it'd probably come in a color I'd like a whole lot more, plus better games would be out for it then. I mean, this is standard Nintendo practice....hell gaming practice in general. Did Sony offer any sort of compensation for the people who actually spent the original $600 on the PS3?

And as for this...

No. They had to do something. Early adopters would have rioted, metaphorically (or maybe literally too), over this if there was no compensation for them getting completely [tornado fang]'d over. Which would have lead to lower profit. They instead found the cheapest way to help smooth over the situation.

Early. Adopters. Wouldn't. Have. Done. [parasitic bomb].

Reggie could have come on stage, shrugged his shoulders, possibly laughed and walked off, and gamers wouldn't have done anything. They'd go on the net, whine & complain, other gamers would laugh at them for not waiting seeing as how pretty much everyone knew it would be cheaper later on, and then they'd continue supporting the product and buying the games. Gamers are addicts, and gaming companies of every kind have them by the [tornado fang]ing balls.

Only a technological device like a gaming system could literally have a 56% failure rate at one point and people still buy it, support it, and continue to deal with it after having sent the damn thing in 3 or more times. 15% is already unacceptable for pretty much every other high end tech device, but the 360 managed to survive and people will throw down another $400-$500 for the 720 when that comes out. People will buy the PSVita when it first comes out as well, and eventually Sony will drop the price on that as well. Call it a hunch, but I doubt they offer anything for the early Vita adopter.

There was 0% risk in losing profit lowering the price like they did, cause the people that bought it still bought it and will most likely continue to support it, so they don't factor in, and the sales were going to massively increase due to the lower price, better colors & bundles, and better games out for it. Sleazy or not, it is pretty much a FLAWLESS business strategy and it works every damn time because they know exactly who their market is.
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Post by: Kieran on December 17, 2011, 09:23:29 AM
Oh, get real.  The 360 never had a 56% failure rate.  That's just hyperbole from Game Informer and you know it.  If over twenty-five million consoles had actually failed, you can bet your ass Microsoft would be in a shitload of trouble.

As for the 3DS, Nintendo only dropped the price so drastically after such a short time because nobody was buying it.  You can call it sleazy all you want, but the fact of the matter is that the system would've been a total write-off for them if they'd left the price as it was.  The ambassador thing is just an olive branch put forth for those of us who did pay full price for it, nothing more.  It's not meant as compensation.  It's meant as consolation.
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Post by: Reaperoid on December 17, 2011, 04:27:43 PM
People bought the 3DS on launch despite the lack of big brand titles like Mario or Zelda. Those who bought on launch were left hanging by Nintendo, and the ambassador titles were only a publicity stunt to get the 3DS moving. Bottom line is, you get what you paid for.

Oh, get real.  The 360 never had a 56% failure rate.  That's just hyperbole from Game Informer and you know it.  If over twenty-five million consoles had actually failed, you can bet your ass Microsoft would be in a shitload of trouble.
It is still very much relevant to the point he's making. You don't need to work for Microsoft to prove that a lot of 360's go kaboom; Microsoft took the hit for it, losing millions in service. But. Go ahead, tell me, PLEASE tell me how they don't make that money back quick-snap, with the way they can still make people throw money at them despite such a high failure rate. Microsoft evidently know what they're doing.
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Post by: xnamkcor on December 17, 2011, 04:51:26 PM
Look at it this way, the opening price for most consumer electronics devices is a bit of a joke. You name a high price you want to sell it at but know no reasonable person would pay for your product. Then you watch all the habitual early adopters pay for it.

When that is over you bring it down to a more reasonable price.

Nintendo just had to lower the price a lot earlier than usual due to poor sales.
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Post by: OBJECTION MAN on December 17, 2011, 09:42:00 PM
lots-o-stuff

At least you admit it's sleazy.
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Post by: Protoman Blues on December 17, 2011, 10:07:04 PM
Oh, get real.  The 360 never had a 56% failure rate.  That's just hyperbole from Game Informer and you know it.  If over twenty-five million consoles had actually failed, you can bet your ass Microsoft would be in a shitload of trouble.

As for the 3DS, Nintendo only dropped the price so drastically after such a short time because nobody was buying it.  You can call it sleazy all you want, but the fact of the matter is that the system would've been a total write-off for them if they'd left the price as it was.  The ambassador thing is just an olive branch put forth for those of us who did pay full price for it, nothing more.  It's not meant as compensation.  It's meant as consolation.

The article in question says they surveyed 5,000 consumers, and there was a 54.2% failure rate. (http://consumerist.com/2009/08/xbox-360-failure-rate-is-542-percent-game-informer-finds.html) I don't know where you got twenty-five million consoles, unless you have no grasp of how surveys like this work. Regardless, that's not the point. The point is that more than half of 5,000 customer had their [parasitic bomb] system break on them and only 3.8% of them, far FAR less than half, said they wouldn't buy that system again. THAT is the point. Microsoft put out one of the shittiest pieces of technological hardware available, and people continued to eat their Microshit on a silver platter because they are addicts. Off the top of my head, I couldn't name one other piece of tech hardware that can fail that much and it still continue to make a profit.

And of course no one was buying it, because most people knew that it would be cheaper later, along with more games they actually wanted for it. Hell, somewhere either in this thread or the Zelda thread, I said that Nintendo would probably put out a Zelda 3DS bundle at a lower price, and that's what I was originally waiting for, until I saw the sexy red one. Nintendo knew it would be cheaper later, but they also know that hardcore Ninty fans and the early tech adopters would buy it day 1. Call it compensation or consolation or whatever you want. The point is that they didn't have to do [parasitic bomb] and it wouldn't have mattered.

At least you admit it's sleazy.

Of course it's sleazy. But it works.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Kieran on December 18, 2011, 09:40:13 PM
Well, yes, Microsoft knows what they're doing.  I imagine they're still in the console business because they have the best online business model of the three console manufacturers, the biggest game library, the easiest system to develop for and because any console that does suffer the aforementioned system fault they repair for free.  The only problem with the 360 from a technological standpoint is cheap solder.

Yeah, the 3DS Ambassador thing was pretty much a publicity stunt however you look at it.  I think I misrepresented my point, which was that no, Nintendo didn't have to do a damn thing.  To complain about the quality of the GBA VC titles as though money was spent on them, when they're nothing more than a free bonus, is a bit silly.  Enjoy them for what they are and if you want save states and graphical enhancement and frame rate adjustments, go play them on VBA instead.  Nintendo isn't forcing you to download them any more than they forced you to buy the 3DS at its inflated launch price.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Ninja Lou on December 21, 2011, 05:27:03 AM
They don't repair RODs for free anymore.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Kieran on December 21, 2011, 06:57:19 PM
Not on the 360 Slim, no.  They took measures to prevent the problem.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Ninja Lou on December 22, 2011, 07:28:56 AM
On the old one either. Unless you buy it new right now the warranty has expired. What they did was extend the original 360's warranty by 3 years, but those have expired now also. I know because I was going to send my in for a 4th time but they were going to charge me. So I went and got a slim. No problems since then.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on December 22, 2011, 09:57:14 AM
On the old one either. Unless you buy it new right now the warranty has expired. What they did was extend the original 360's warranty by 3 years, but those have expired now also. I know because I was going to send my in for a 4th time but they were going to charge me. So I went and got a slim. No problems since then.

I think all console manufacturers should make faulty products, that way, after the warranty period, you have to buy a new one.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Kieran on December 23, 2011, 12:35:20 AM
Funny enough, I've had more problems with my DSes (plural) than my 360 (singular).  I guess I'm one of the lucky few who's never had to deal with a RROD...?  o~O
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on December 23, 2011, 01:11:23 AM
Funny enough, I've had more problems with my DSes (plural) than my 360 (singular).  I guess I'm one of the lucky few who's never had to deal with a RROD...?  o~O

You probably used sane ventilation and usage practices. I'm pretty sure the RROD would never happen to a well ventilated 360 that isn't used much, but Microsoft isn't selling to well mannered citizenry, they are selling to CoD, Halo, and Madden fans.

I blame Guitar Hero DS for my DS woes.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Kieran on December 23, 2011, 07:11:36 PM
Yeah, I keep all my consoles where they can get plenty of air. (http://www.crowdedstreet.net/crap/consoles.jpg)  It never ceases to amaze me when people stack a bunch of consoles and DVD players and [parasitic bomb] on top of eachother in a closed cabinet, then wonder why it overheats.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on February 17, 2012, 03:40:38 AM
Just a small update to let non-ambassadors know that SMB 1 is finally available in the US for $4.99.

Hopefully this means that the rest of the NES games get their updates within the coming weeks.

I guess I was right about the original releases having a prototype design on the menu as the updated version loses the little jingle the NES games had and now shows a TV with an NES beside it. Its pretty cool looking.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on February 17, 2012, 03:49:55 AM
In Japan, 3 Famicom games are available to buy.

Super Mario Bros.
Zelda no Densetsu 1: The Hyrule Fantasy
Punch-Out!! (Mr. Dream version)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on February 17, 2012, 04:22:59 AM
In Japan, 3 Famicom games are available to buy.

Super Mario Bros.
Zelda no Densetsu 1: The Hyrule Fantasy
Punch-Out!! (Mr. Dream version)

Well, Japan does get stuff faster than the US, but Punch Out too? I would've taken that over Golf.
Quick question, do the Famicom games have a little famicom next to them on the menu, and does the little sound that plays when you highlight a game change between the games (With Mario it's a coin, so I'm wondering if Zelda and Punch out have anything different.)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on February 17, 2012, 04:47:55 AM
TV and a Famicom, just like any region. All the games have the Mario Coin sound tho.

The color of the game cartridges are different tho, to reflect their original real life colors.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on February 17, 2012, 05:11:49 AM
TV and a Famicom, just like any region. All the games have the Mario Coin sound tho.

The color of the game cartridges are different tho, to reflect their original real life colors.

The fact that you can see the cart is kind of cool, rather a shame that every game uses the Mario Coin.
Naturally with the NES they use the Toaster design so we don't get to see a cartridge.
Still, its a beautiful attention to detail, it has a much better presentation than we originally got.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Align on February 17, 2012, 09:09:58 AM
Five dollars for [tornado fang]ing SMB1??
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on February 17, 2012, 09:55:56 AM
It's NES Classics for GBA all over again. At least it isn't 20 dollars, but still. They vastly overestimate the value of their 25 year old games.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on February 18, 2012, 12:03:48 AM
Five dollars for [tornado fang]ing SMB1??

Its probably $5 for every NES VC game.
just like how it is on the Wii.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on February 18, 2012, 12:26:24 AM
Its probably $5 for every NES VC game.
just like how it is on the Wii.

Is it still 600 for "imports"?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on February 18, 2012, 12:40:54 AM
...why is this news?  You guys honestly expected Nintendo to shortchange their own pre-existing shop?

Besides, 3D Classics versions of NES games were already running $6.

They vastly overestimate the value of their 25 year old games.
Money disagrees with you.  So long as the demand is there, they have all the justification they need.  Do you have any idea what kind of field day the eBay sharks had with the Wii port of All-Stars?

I wonder, how many of us would still be arguing if the game wasn't already readily available?  If, say, SquareEnix put Dragon Warrior I up there for five bucks, I'd be all over that.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on February 18, 2012, 03:16:13 AM
...why is this news?  You guys honestly expected Nintendo to shortchange their own pre-existing shop?

Besides, 3D Classics versions of NES games were already running $6.
Money disagrees with you.  So long as the demand is there, they have all the justification they need.  Do you have any idea what kind of field day the eBay sharks had with the Wii port of All-Stars?

I wonder, how many of us would still be arguing if the game wasn't already readily available?  If, say, SquareEnix put Dragon Warrior I up there for five bucks, I'd be all over that.
I'd gladly pay $10-$20 for a Dragon Warrior NES Collection on the eShop, being DQ1-4.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on February 18, 2012, 04:20:27 AM
I wonder, how many of us would still be arguing if the game wasn't already readily available?

It was already readily available. 20 years ago. And it's unavailability now is no reason for them to release a 20 year old game that should be, at most, 800 Wii Shop Points for 30 USD.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on February 18, 2012, 03:56:49 PM
Paragraph spacing exists for a reason; I meant that line in reference to the $5 for NES games point, not All-Stars.  We're shocked that SMB1 is five bucks because it's already available in two other forms this console generation alone.

As far as All-Stars goes, you're welcome to your opinion, and I don't disagree with you about it being overpriced (although $8 is over-simplifying), but good luck finding it for any less than 30 USD after Nintendo stopped selling it.

Both points are basically a supply-and-demand discussion.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on March 14, 2012, 10:14:22 AM
http://kidicarus.nintendo.com/uprising/explore-the-game/arcards.html#giveaway


Soon my post count will be high enough that I will be a moderator!
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on March 14, 2012, 11:37:35 PM
http://kidicarus.nintendo.com/uprising/explore-the-game/arcards.html#giveaway


Soon my post count will be high enough that I will be a moderator!

They're not on Club Nintendo. Sold out already?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on March 15, 2012, 12:40:11 AM
That Sega/Capcom/Bamco site got updated with more of those funky chromosomes.

http://pxz.channel.or.jp/
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on March 15, 2012, 02:16:11 AM
They're not on Club Nintendo. Sold out already?

I gave you a link of exactly where to go. You should Click the Already a Member button and it should prompt you to sign in, then on the right should be a button to order. If something goes wrong, then I guess they ran out.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on March 15, 2012, 03:06:44 AM
Weird, I did the same thing you said when I posted that, but it simply brought me to the home page with no offer anywhere. A few minutes later, it said CN was undergoing maintenance. Right now it works, so I just ordered it.

Eh whatever, thanks.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on March 27, 2012, 10:39:28 PM
So it's been 1 year since the 3DS came out.
I guess that's pretty cool.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: IQ-0 on March 27, 2012, 11:43:26 PM
The 3DS anniversary gave us a Mii version of Reggie at level 5. He is the first special Mii.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on March 27, 2012, 11:56:13 PM
Yeah, Reggie also has every piece of every puzzle so he's good for getting another of those tricky Pink Squares.

Which leaves me with one normal piece and one Pink space left on my Pilotwings Puzzle.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on March 28, 2012, 12:42:31 AM
Jeez, I had THREE puzzles not even started yet.  X_x

However, names were taken and asses were kicked in Find Mii II.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on March 28, 2012, 12:51:49 AM
He is the first special Mii.

That's strange. My first special Mii was Iwata-san, many weeks ago~ :3
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on March 28, 2012, 01:18:24 AM
I think this could be the first special Mii for NA 3DS's; we did get Reggie instead of Iwata sooo yeah. D:
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on March 28, 2012, 02:59:59 AM
I think this could be the first special Mii for NA 3DS's; we did get Reggie instead of Iwata sooo yeah. D:

3DS's what?
Title: New Firmware announced and detailed (Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread)
Post by: VixyNyan on April 15, 2012, 04:42:53 AM
http://mynintendonews.com/2012/03/24/next-nintendo-3ds-firmware-update-detailed/ (http://mynintendonews.com/2012/03/24/next-nintendo-3ds-firmware-update-detailed/)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on April 29, 2012, 07:58:36 PM
Well, this is surprising. (http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=176348)

I never took Nintendo for the type of company to delve so deeply into the 'digital' market. But I'm more interested in them allowing for old super-rare games to be available on the eShop like Shantae. I've been waiting for that ever since I heard about the 3DS' VC service.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on May 22, 2012, 08:33:16 AM
Well, this is surprising. (http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=176348)

I never took Nintendo for the type of company to delve so deeply into the 'digital' market. But I'm more interested in them allowing for old super-rare games to be available on the eShop like Shantae. I've been waiting for that ever since I heard about the 3DS' VC service.
yeah the original Shantae would be a great VC game (provided they have the GBA-enabled area active).

for that matter they should bring the oracle games to VC as well (with the advance shop open). you could easily use the Game Notes feature to write down the passcodes and stuff for a linked game.

Posted on: April 29, 2012, 12:22:34 PM
Mighty Switch Force update coming on Thursday! (https://twitter.com/#!/WayForwardTech/status/204818001927741440)

(http://www.wayforward.com/storage/RELEASE_MSF_NEW%20LEVELS.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1337666522399)

also in relation to my last post, when checking the wayforward blog there was an old entry regarding shantae on 3ds vc, and it said they were actively trying. it was several months old, but it's still a hope i guess.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Satoryu on May 22, 2012, 05:50:16 PM
Oh that's really cool. This game is a real gem. I wonder if this is going to cost anything?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on May 22, 2012, 08:25:04 PM
No, the update is free.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Satoryu on May 23, 2012, 04:32:14 AM
That's good. Though I wouldn't have minded paying a buck or two. I still have plenty of points left over.
Title: Nintendo 3DS XL confirmed!
Post by: Solar on June 22, 2012, 05:48:04 AM
So, a bigger 3DS with slightly better battery life just got announced at the Nintendo Direct that is streaming right now.

I so need to get one.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on June 22, 2012, 05:49:22 AM
I've heard about this already.

Isn't it going to be more expensive?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on June 22, 2012, 05:57:19 AM
They're not including an AC Adapter with it so that doesn't happen >.>

The equivalent in dollars of the announced price is $190~
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on June 22, 2012, 05:59:22 AM
They're not including an AC Adapter with it so that doesn't happen >.>

The equivalent in dollars of the announced price is $190~

So, still more expensive than the current model, like the DSiXL compared to the DSi.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on June 22, 2012, 06:07:49 AM
Yeah, not that much more expensive.

Should be $200~ tops if you don't have an AC Adapter it can use yet.

Posted on: June 21, 2012, 10:02:55 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/aCII4.png)

Posted on: June 21, 2012, 10:05:53 PM
It's officially $199 for NA and will launch in August.

Damn, that's soon o__0
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Satoryu on June 22, 2012, 06:47:59 AM
I'd put a Shut Up and Take my Money picture here, but that'd be too obvious. This'll be great for me. I can trade in my DSiXL when I get it, and trade in my little 3DS once I transfer everything over. And just in time for Kingdom Hearts too. The D pad looks to be in a better spot too. I'm sometimes bothered by how low the D pad is on the 3DS. All I'm hoping for now is that the screens don't scratch when it's closed.

Actually maybe I'll hold on to the old 3DS if a mod with video out comes around.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on June 22, 2012, 07:07:26 AM
Actually maybe I'll hold on to the old 3DS if a mod with video out comes around.

Yup, loopy is working on that one.

I did send a e-mail a few months ago hoping to buy a mod or two myself. ^^b
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on June 22, 2012, 07:41:45 AM
Yeah, not that much more expensive.

Should be $200~ tops if you don't have an AC Adapter it can use yet.

Posted on: June 21, 2012, 10:02:55 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/aCII4.png)

Posted on: June 21, 2012, 10:05:53 PM
It's officially $199 for NA and will launch in August.

Damn, that's soon o__0

If they made it any bigger the parallax barrier might now even work without using some kind of extending gadget arms.

This is exactly why I never believe someone when they say that Nintendo won't release an updated version.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: ViperAcidZX on June 22, 2012, 07:45:06 AM
Yeah, not that much more expensive.

Should be $200~ tops if you don't have an AC Adapter it can use yet.

Posted on: June 21, 2012, 10:02:55 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/aCII4.png)

Posted on: June 21, 2012, 10:05:53 PM
It's officially $199 for NA and will launch in August.

Damn, that's soon o__0
Why not go for the extra 10%? 8U
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: N-Mario on June 22, 2012, 07:48:52 AM
So does that mean if I own an original 3DS, and buy a XL version, then I can street pass each of my own systems as many times as I want to, as long as the time frame is different? Cause it's getting harder and harder (as long as they keep putting out new 3D image galleries) to get the pink pieces, and I'm still missing a few. I heard when you reset a system, you supposedly get a randomized piece. But maybe it's worth a shot, I donno.

I could also street pass my other Mii in my current 3DS for the find mii game, and keep leveling up to the highest  level possible, making it easier to destroy the enemies.  8)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on June 22, 2012, 11:13:50 AM
So does that mean if I own an original 3DS, and buy a XL version, then I can street pass each of my own systems as many times as I want to, as long as the time frame is different? Cause it's getting harder and harder (as long as they keep putting out new 3D image galleries) to get the pink pieces, and I'm still missing a few. I heard when you reset a system, you supposedly get a randomized piece. But maybe it's worth a shot, I donno.

I could also street pass my other Mii in my current 3DS for the find mii game, and keep leveling up to the highest  level possible, making it easier to destroy the enemies.  8)

If you are willing to have one with no DLC content or pay double. From what I recall Nintendo doesn't allow one account on more than one device of the same platform.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Karai on June 22, 2012, 08:47:33 PM
Yeah! I was waiting for the redesigned model. That, and the possibility of downloading retail games instead of importing (will it include older titles too?). It's almost too good. Now I have great motivation to do productive things and make money.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on June 22, 2012, 09:49:35 PM
If you are willing to have one with no DLC content or pay double. From what I recall Nintendo doesn't allow one account on more than one device of the same platform.

They don't, yet, but I don't see how that affects what he wants to do.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on June 23, 2012, 04:24:27 AM
Nintendo: "3DS isn't in need of a redesign"

2 weeks later
"3DS XL GAIZ!"

Why this wasn't announced at E3, I'll never know.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on June 23, 2012, 05:06:27 AM
And also, DS and VC games displaying in 1:1 resolution will be easier to see when you enter Pixel Mode. On normal 3DS, the resolution was too small to see. ^^;
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on June 23, 2012, 05:26:57 AM
I'll not be swayed from my MEGAFIED 3DS, but I suppose the XL will hold some mass market appeal for people who are used to lugging around tablets as part of their daily lives and generally despise small screens.  Me, I still prefer a gadget that will fit in my cargo shorts.

I also happen to like lines more than curves when it comes to electronics, but evidently that's not the "sexy" way to look at it.  *shrugs*

Nintendo: "3DS isn't in need of a redesign"

2 weeks later
"3DS XL GAIZ!"

Why this wasn't announced at E3, I'll never know.
I think Nintendo was more or less directing their E3 conferences at their investors.  It was Wii-U launch window and NOTHING that would detract from that, because the Wii-U's launch is the single biggest question mark right now from a financial standpoint.

Nintendo Direct was pretty much the Nintendo news that gamers were looking for during E3.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on June 23, 2012, 06:50:21 AM
I'll not be swayed from my MEGAFIED 3DS, but I suppose the XL will hold some mass market appeal for people who are used to lugging around tablets as part of their daily lives and generally despise small screens.  Me, I still prefer a gadget that will fit in my cargo shorts.

You've got to admit extra battery life is appealing though. Personally, I love the current 3DS's look, but I'm willing to sacrifice that for no more emo self-cutting screens -.-

Besides, when you have a younger brother having a spare handheld is a nice thing to have around.

I think Nintendo was more or less directing their E3 conferences at their investors.  It was Wii-U launch window and NOTHING that would detract from that, because the Wii-U's launch is the single biggest question mark right now from a financial standpoint.

True, but if I may go a little off-topic, it was still weird. They want to impress investors and the casual market, and yet they refuse to show some of THE most important titles for them, which we know are coming to the console, namely COD and the EA sports games? Makes no sense at all :/
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on June 23, 2012, 07:43:07 AM
So, i'm watching the Nintendo Direct finally.

We'll be getting more VC games starting in July? About [tornado fang]ing time, its taking them way too long to get Wario Land out.
Will Smash 4 get any Namdai characters with that cooperation?
Guess they're doing with Kirby what they did with SMAS, I'll be picking it up even if it is just a VC collection.
NSMB2, god [tornado fang]ing damnit why so many bah-bah's. I'm going to mute the [parasitic bomb] out of that. Like the idea of Coin Rush DLC that isn't on the cart.
Pokedex 3D Pro should've been what Pokedex 3D was, it better be free.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on June 23, 2012, 07:58:58 AM
It‘s $10 IIRC.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on June 23, 2012, 08:05:44 AM
It‘s $10 IIRC.

Goddamnit, why?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on June 23, 2012, 08:56:31 AM
It‘s $10 IIRC.

Wow, are you [tornado fang]ing kidding me?

They are now trying to cash in on this whole digital craze, and Pokemon in one fell swoop.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on June 23, 2012, 09:36:31 AM
Did they happen to mention why they didn't include a second analog in the XL design?
Is it that they don't see a future in it?
They just really want to screw over Capcom, who worked hard on it and probably planned to be able to use it for their future games?
Wanted to do it as a lesson to all other companies who try to make their own accessories?
Had this iteration of the 3DS planned so early that they didn't have time to include it?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on June 23, 2012, 02:35:49 PM
Did they happen to mention why they didn't include a second analog in the XL design?
Is it that they don't see a future in it?
They just really want to screw over Capcom, who worked hard on it and probably planned to be able to use it for their future games?
Considering how strong Reggie's emphasis was on their DLC not being on-cart and not being developed until after the main game is considered "complete" internally, I do have to wonder on that one...

But I think the more likely reason is that the Circle Pad Pro isn't just an extra pad; it's also extra shoulder buttons.  Unless you go the original Wii Classic Controller route, which I think everyone agrees is uncomfortable and largely useless, it is extremely difficult to have more than two shoulder buttons on a handheld without screwing with its profile.  To have a second pad with only two shoulder buttons will further fragment the possible control setups and probably leave a 3rd party dev or two banging their head against the wall.  It's also possibly not the best image for Nintendo to include extra traditional inputs as the "default" of their new model when they know the majority of the 3DS's library will ignore them.

And call me a blind Miyamoto worshipper if you must, but I think the man is onto something when he says that the gyroscope when used properly does a fine job in most situations.  It certainly made aiming a lot easier in Zelda.

As with the DSiXL, the 3DSXL is meant as an alternative rather than a replacement.  It has no additional features such as the DSi introducing a shop, or even the Lite's brightness adjustment.  It's just, literally, bigger.  Bigger battery and bigger SD card included, but still, just bigger.

Frankly I wasn't impressed with the DSiXL's screens; I thought they were too large and fuzzy for such a small resolution.  3DS being a bit higher res, maybe it would work better, but I'd need to see one in a store demo before I ever considered buying one under any circumstances (I do have to admit, even if I myself don't care much for ballooning my 3DS, a Christmas gift that could net me a NSMB2 co-op partner, that has some merit to it).

NSMB2, god [tornado fang]ing damnit why so many bah-bah's. I'm going to mute the [parasitic bomb] out of that. Like the idea of Coin Rush DLC that isn't on the cart.
One of these days I seriously need to send you my Riivolution music hack for NSMBWii.  'course, I still need to do the fast versions so that your soul isn't crushed by the high-speed bah-bah's when the timer is low.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on June 23, 2012, 05:04:16 PM
Considering how strong Reggie's emphasis was on their DLC not being on-cart and not being developed until after the main game is considered "complete" internally, I do have to wonder on that one...

But I think the more likely reason is that the Circle Pad Pro isn't just an extra pad; it's also extra shoulder buttons.  Unless you go the original Wii Classic Controller route, which I think everyone agrees is uncomfortable and largely useless, it is extremely difficult to have more than two shoulder buttons on a handheld without screwing with its profile.  To have a second pad with only two shoulder buttons will further fragment the possible control setups and probably leave a 3rd party dev or two banging their head against the wall.  It's also possibly not the best image for Nintendo to include extra traditional inputs as the "default" of their new model that they know the majority of the 3DS's library will ignore them.

And call me a blind Miyamoto worshipper if you must, but I think the man is onto something when he says that the gyroscope when used properly does a fine job in most situations.  It certainly made aiming a lot easier in Zelda.

As with the DSiXL, the 3DSXL is meant as an alternative rather than a replacement.  It has no additional features such as the DSi introducing a shop, or even the Lite's brightness adjustment.  It's just, literally, bigger.  Bigger battery and bigger SD card included, but still, just bigger.

Frankly I wasn't impressed with the DSiXL's screens; I thought they were too large and fuzzy for such a small resolution.  3DS being a bit higher res, maybe it would work better, but I'd need to see one in a store demo before I ever considered buying one under any circumstances (I do have to admit, even if I myself don't care much for ballooning my 3DS, a Christmas gift that could net me a NSMB2 co-op partner, that has some merit to it).
One of these days I seriously need to send you my Riivolution music hack for NSMBWii.  'course, I still need to do the fast versions so that your soul isn't crushed by the high-speed bah-bah's when the timer is low.
That is true. having separate hardware would split things very badly.

I did notice some changes.
The Start/Select buttons are actual buttons instead of whatever it is they used in the original. They look much easier to push.
The Power button has a lower profile.
All LEDs are visible from the side and front.
The 3D Slider might be longer.
Moved the earphone jack.
Mic is now labelled.
The pictogram on the 3D slider is now more accurate.


It's clear that while they didn't want to branch the 3DS control schemes, they did put some decent effort into rectifying some problems.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on July 20, 2012, 05:54:09 AM
Hm I might actually try this campaign thing out next week. ^^ (http://andriasang.com/con1zw/3ds_download_sales_campaign/)

Also comes with a free game~
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on July 20, 2012, 06:01:08 AM
DK original edition? That's the version with the Pie Factory that was released in Europe with the 25th Anniversary Mario Wii Bundle, right?

Too bad this isn't an american thing, I would probably buy Demon Training (Is it some twisted version of Brain Age or something?) just because I want NSMB2 as the Retail copy.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on September 24, 2012, 10:20:12 PM
Borrowing this thread for a bit.

Hey everyone (and Hypershell and OBJECTION MAN and Satoryu and others), look what I can do now~

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/vixynyan3dscapture01.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/vixynyan3dscapture02.png)

No it's not a webcam image. XD

I can do live streams and video recordings too~ :cookie:

Thank you, loopy, for your hard work! <3
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Solar on September 24, 2012, 10:45:47 PM
Now that's just awesome. Is something like streaming RPM online MK7 races or Kid Icarus team battles a possibility in the future? :D
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on September 24, 2012, 10:51:54 PM
It would be from my point of view most of the time, but sure. When I have time. O:
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on September 24, 2012, 10:56:01 PM
Borrowing this thread for a bit.

Hey everyone (and Hypershell and OBJECTION MAN and Satoryu and others), look what I can do now~

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/vixynyan3dscapture01.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/vixynyan3dscapture02.png)

No it's not a webcam image. XD

I can do live streams and video recordings too~ :cookie:

Thank you, loopy, for your hard work! <3
Ah so you picked up that 3DS capture card. Nice~
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on September 24, 2012, 11:08:22 PM
Borrowing this thread for a bit.

Hey everyone (and Hypershell and OBJECTION MAN and Satoryu and others), look what I can do now~

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/vixynyan3dscapture01.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/vixynyan3dscapture02.png)

No it's not a webcam image. XD

I can do live streams and video recordings too~ :cookie:

Thank you, loopy, for your hard work! <3

That's awesome, Vixy! Show us how you rock the 3DS! XD
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Satoryu on September 24, 2012, 11:17:43 PM
Jealous. I don't know if I can still get one right now. :(
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on September 25, 2012, 03:58:21 AM
There should be a new batch from loopy personally in a future time, also the first page of the SDA thread has a forum link to 3DS capture, and somewhere in the last pages is a link to a store that sells and installs a board for you.

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3dscapturesenrankaguraburst.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3dscapturesenrankaguraburst.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3dscapturenyan.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3dscapturenyan.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3dscapturekyun.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3dscapturekyun.png)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Joseph Collins on September 25, 2012, 04:29:41 AM
Hey everyone (and Hypershell and OBJECTION MAN and Satoryu and others), look what I can do now~
What what what?!!  H-how?!!  O_O  Oh my god, I want one!  That would be so flippin' awesome!  I'm... not entirely sure what I'd want it for right at this moment, though.  Maybe recording Nintendo DS boss runs or something (since even my good computer can't run the emulators at a decent speed)...  But dayum.  T_T
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on September 25, 2012, 04:59:43 AM
What what what?!!  H-how?!!  O_O  Oh my god, I want one!  That would be so flippin' awesome!  I'm... not entirely sure what I'd want it for right at this moment, though.  Maybe recording Nintendo DS boss runs or something (since even my good computer can't run the emulators at a decent speed)...  But dayum.  T_T
It's a capture card run through USB attached to the bottom of the 3DS. It's tricky to install, from what I saw.

So I'm glad there's folks who'll install it fer ya. :D
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on September 25, 2012, 06:36:26 AM
More testing. With a Famicom game.

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-rockman1-fc-01.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-rockman1-fc-01.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-rockman1-fc-02.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-rockman1-fc-02.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-rockman1-fc-03.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-rockman1-fc-03.png)

Download the images, view them at 200% (or higher) with MS Paint or other non-filtering image software and you will see some "shocking" pixelations. XD
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Joseph Collins on September 25, 2012, 06:43:52 AM
It's a capture card run through USB attached to the bottom of the 3DS. It's tricky to install, from what I saw.

So I'm glad there's folks who'll install it fer ya. :D
... oh.  Mm...  Don't think I'll be doing that, if that's the case.  I might, might, do custom firmware if people can make it decent enough, but I draw the line at hardware modification.  x:

This is still neat as hell, though.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on September 25, 2012, 06:56:15 AM
More testing. With a Famicom game.

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-rockman1-fc-01.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-rockman1-fc-01.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-rockman1-fc-02.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-rockman1-fc-02.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-rockman1-fc-03.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-rockman1-fc-03.png)

Download the images, view them at 200% (or higher) with MS Paint or other non-filtering image software and you will see some "shocking" pixelations. XD

It does minor anti-aliasing?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on September 25, 2012, 07:09:59 AM
Hm maybe, maybe not. It doesn't look right tho, that's for sure.
NES/FC games should be 256x240 (or 256x224 for NTSC).

I also tried holding start+select before loading a game, like you could do with DS games, but it didn't seem to work. ^^;

Posted on: September 25, 2012, 05:59:22
Game Boy Color
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-gbc-zeldadx-01.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-gbc-zeldadx-01.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-gbc-zeldadx-02.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-gbc-zeldadx-02.png)

Game Boy Monochrome (Classic)
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-gb-rockmanworld-01.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-gb-rockmanworld-01.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-gb-rockmanworld-02.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-gb-rockmanworld-02.png)

Game Boy Advance
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-gba-madeinwario-01.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-gba-madeinwario-01.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-gba-madeinwario-02.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-gba-madeinwario-02.png)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Joseph Collins on September 25, 2012, 09:25:18 AM
Are Game Boy Advance games not officially supported?  Because those colors look rather washed-out.  Then again, so did the Famicom game graphics... but those at least had the "Virtual Console" message on the bottom.  o_o
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on September 25, 2012, 09:33:41 AM
Are Game Boy Advance games not officially supported?  Because those colors look rather washed-out.  Then again, so did the Famicom game graphics... but those at least had the "Virtual Console" message on the bottom.  o_o

Its just Nintendo's rushed GBA emulator for the Ambassadors.
It doesn't have the features of the other VC games.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on September 25, 2012, 09:42:51 AM
Borrowing this thread for a bit.

Hey everyone (and Hypershell and OBJECTION MAN and Satoryu and others), look what I can do now~

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/vixynyan3dscapture01.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/vixynyan3dscapture02.png)

No it's not a webcam image. XD

I can do live streams and video recordings too~ :cookie:

Thank you, loopy, for your hard work! <3

Can it capture 800x240?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on September 26, 2012, 02:05:08 AM
Borrowing this thread for a bit.

Hey everyone (and Hypershell and OBJECTION MAN and Satoryu and others), look what I can do now~

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/vixynyan3dscapture01.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/vixynyan3dscapture02.png)

No it's not a webcam image. XD

I can do live streams and video recordings too~ :cookie:

Thank you, loopy, for your hard work! <3
Ho.  Ly.  [tornado fang].

Sweet news, Vix!  We'll have to make it a point to connect online sometime ('specially since I FINALLY got my gold glider in MK7).
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on September 26, 2012, 04:17:50 AM
Can it capture 800x240?

When the software is updated, it could. (http://3dscapture.com/) O:

Sweet news, Vix!  We'll have to make it a point to connect online sometime

If I'm not busy and I can set a time for it, sure~

Video time! :3

Biohazard (RE): Deadly Silence (http://www.rockmanpm.com/?p=mp4/3dscapturebiohazardds)
Cave Story 3D (http://www.rockmanpm.com/?p=mp4/3dscapturecavestory3d)


I'll show some 60fps recordings later on. ^^
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on September 26, 2012, 05:03:42 AM
When the software is updated, it could. (http://3dscapture.com/) O:
Thanks, I forgot to bookmark it when last I had it open. XD
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: N-Mario on September 26, 2012, 05:39:56 AM
God darn it Vix. I need one of those 3DS capture cards. They must be very expensive. :-/


Are they very rare? I also read that there are very few like these. Like how Nintendo streams them with their own boards/cords/USBs of streaming.


In any case I wouldn't mind watching you stream this. Though I can't remember if I followed you or not. If I have, I haven't gotten any recent notifications of you streaming.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on September 26, 2012, 06:50:27 AM
When the software is updated, it could. (http://3dscapture.com/) O:

If I'm not busy and I can set a time for it, sure~

Video time! :3

Biohazard (RE): Deadly Silence (http://www.rockmanpm.com/?p=mp4/3dscapturebiohazardds)
Cave Story 3D (http://www.rockmanpm.com/?p=mp4/3dscapturecavestory3d)


I'll show some 60fps recordings later on. ^^

Looks like a really nice device. My only complaint is that it seems to use Micro USB and has no reinforcement for the USB cable itself. As if the weight of the cable will be on the port. Also, are you recording to Uncompressed AVI and then converting to MP4? Or are you recording directly to MP4?

http://www.amvhell.com/stuff/zarx264gui/
http://virtualdub.sourceforge.net/

This includes the two I linked to but it's best to get the latest versions of those. The older version of the package includes DVDDecryptor, but that is of no concern for this.
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtech31/amvapp.html
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on September 26, 2012, 01:13:39 PM
Uncompressed first. The software has limited codec selection but you can choose XVid and TechSmith lossless codec as well. I didn't have other tools ready while I was recording this at my job. I already have those tools here at home. ^^b

I prefer to keep all my images and videos at 1:1 ratio in the original resolution (400x480) as much as possible. But in the end, the results still looks good.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on September 26, 2012, 02:51:26 PM
Well now, that's quite a thing. How much did that run you?

(You know you need to do some footage of the ninja chick brawler now.)

Ya know, I was just thinking, if it would be possible to stream that video out, to say your TV or PC (then rerouted to your TV :D). Get some full screen action going. Especially good since it can play DS games too.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on September 26, 2012, 06:25:31 PM
This was the "Ninja Chick Brawler" image teased for the moment, I'll do videos/live streams later (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3dscapturesenrankaguraburst.png). Also I'm waiting for Project X Zone.

Ya know, I was just thinking, if it would be possible to stream that video out, to say your TV or PC (then rerouted to your TV :D). Get some full screen action going. Especially good since it can play DS games too.

Well since both screens are displayed from a PC software, you have to use separate screen capture software if you want to do live streams or play around with video-out functionality (as long as your PC/laptop has a video out port in the first place). You can double-click the 3DS screens on the PC software and they will show up in fullscreen with black background covering the rest of the PC screen. So yes, you can also use this device for "demo unit" purpose or "couch potato" gameplay in front of your TV if you want. XD

Well now, that's quite a thing. How much did that run you?

The circuit board + installation went for $200 USD. I sent in my own Japan system for installation so I had to add in some express shipment costs to the US. It all fits nicely inside a black shell under the 3DS system, almost like the Nyko battery. 8D

Posted on: September 26, 2012, 14:38:55
Are Game Boy Advance games not officially supported?  Because those colors look rather washed-out.  Then again, so did the Famicom game graphics... but those at least had the "Virtual Console" message on the bottom.  o_o
Its just Nintendo's rushed GBA emulator for the Ambassadors.
It doesn't have the features of the other VC games.

Hm now that you mention it, it does look kinda dark. ^^;

More GBA things.

Mario Kart Advance
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-gba-mariokartadvance3-01.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-gba-mariokartadvance3-01.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-gba-mariokartadvance3-02.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-gba-mariokartadvance3-02.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-gba-mariokartadvance3-03.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-gba-mariokartadvance3-03.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-gba-mariokartadvance3-04.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-gba-mariokartadvance3-04.png)

Super Mario Advance 3
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-gba-supermarioadvance3-01.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-gba-supermarioadvance3-01.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-gba-supermarioadvance3-02.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-gba-supermarioadvance3-02.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-gba-supermarioadvance3-03.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-gba-supermarioadvance3-03.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-gba-supermarioadvance3-04.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-gba-supermarioadvance3-04.png)

Zelda: The Minish Cap
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-gba-zeldaminishcap-01.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-gba-zeldaminishcap-01.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-gba-zeldaminishcap-02.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-gba-zeldaminishcap-02.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-gba-zeldaminishcap-03.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-gba-zeldaminishcap-03.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-gba-zeldaminishcap-04.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-gba-zeldaminishcap-04.png)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on September 26, 2012, 08:14:40 PM
Uncompressed first. The software has limited codec selection but you can choose XVid and TechSmith lossless codec as well. I didn't have other tools ready while I was recording this at my job. I already have those tools here at home. ^^b

I prefer to keep all my images and videos at 1:1 ratio in the original resolution (400x480) as much as possible. But in the end, the results still looks good.

I don't think Xvid "lossless" is actually lossless, I'm pretty sure it's just "visually lossless", which means "enough people won't see or care about the loss so we'll call it lossless". I prefer using x264, but that's just because I never got into editing while divx/xvid was big.

I'd suggest using the MP4 container's built in Aspect Ratio flag, but the fact that the lines are so close together would probably screw with the encoding and nothing would look right. The best you could do would be to rotate the video and set the Interlaced flag.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on September 26, 2012, 09:10:01 PM
This was the "Ninja Chick Brawler" image teased for the moment, I'll do videos/live streams later (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3dscapturesenrankaguraburst.png). Also I'm waiting for Project X Zone.

Yeah, that's what made me ask. Also, I can never remember the name for that game. I'm not all that in tune with remembering asian based words honestly.

Well since both screens are displayed from a PC software, you have to use separate screen capture software if you want to do live streams or play around with video-out functionality (as long as your PC/laptop has a video out port in the first place). You can double-click the 3DS screens on the PC software and they will show up in fullscreen with black background covering the rest of the PC screen. So yes, you can also use this device for "demo unit" purpose or "couch potato" gameplay in front of your TV if you want. XD

MY GOD. That just flew up to the top of my DO WANT list. Considering the tech and installation knowledge involved, that's not too terribly expensive either. I believe I found my first game related purchase once I'm out of budget crunch.

Is there a way to disable the view of one of the screens on the PC output? I'd like to have the top screen exclusive on the PC, and the bottom screen left for the device itself; kind of like how the WiiU is structured.

And I suppose the most important question; is there any display lag between the system itself and the PC display? Even the slightest amount can be troublesome.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on September 26, 2012, 11:12:21 PM
I don't think Xvid "lossless" is actually lossless, I'm pretty sure it's just "visually lossless"

I never ever associated the word "lossless" with XVid. XD

TechSmith has their own video codec that actually does record in lossless while conserving storage space, so you don't have to choose the Uncompressed codec that's default in most codec listings. It's called "TechSmith Screen Capture Codec" and it comes bundled with Camtasia Studio (and its own sub-tools).

Is there a way to disable the view of one of the screens on the PC output? I'd like to have the top screen exclusive on the PC, and the bottom screen left for the device itself; kind of like how the WiiU is structured.

Well you can choose how both screens will attach or separate from each other. When you separate the screens, you can then choose to have the top or bottom screen displaying fully across your PC monitor if you want. I haven't found any way of "completely" disabling both screens, but if you want, you can drag one of the unwanted screens in a corner, or doubleclick on the one you want to display in fullscreen.

And I suppose the most important question; is there any display lag between the system itself and the PC display? Even the slightest amount can be troublesome.

On the system: NEVER, not in the slightest! <3

On the PC display: As long as you don't have any heavy-duty processes in the background or if you aren't recording anything, there's no lag at all. Even when I just simply had the screens on display with basic processes running in the background, it showed no frame skip or drops whatsoever. It depends on your PC build and/or what you are using currently I guess. Basically, the PC display shows the 3DS in real time, while there might be some frame skips depending on what you do on your PC currently. It's sending signals through micro-USB so that's the kind of speed rate you get sending the screens from the 3DS to a PC. o.o
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Joseph Collins on September 26, 2012, 11:19:45 PM
All things considered, this sounds like how RemoteJoyLite works for the Sony PSP.  All it did was display exactly (for the most part) what was on your PSP screen.  It's pretty lightweight itself, even when recording with FRAPS.  So lightweight, it could be run on older hardware, in fact.  It also has the added bonus of letting you control your PSP via PC game controller or keyboard, which is super nice for getting the real "full screen PSP" experience.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on September 27, 2012, 12:21:28 AM
I never ever associated the word "lossless" with XVid. XD

TechSmith has their own video codec that actually does record in lossless while conserving storage space, so you don't have to choose the Uncompressed codec that's default in most codec listings. It's called "TechSmith Screen Capture Codec" and it comes bundled with Camtasia Studio (and its own sub-tools).

Ah, I know there is a "lossless" setting for one of the "mp4" encoders. I can't read goodly. I prefer MSU Screen Capture or UTVideo for my lossless, but I'll try out the Techsmith thing.

All things considered, this sounds like how RemoteJoyLite works for the Sony PSP.  All it did was display exactly (for the most part) what was on your PSP screen.  It's pretty lightweight itself, even when recording with FRAPS.  So lightweight, it could be run on older hardware, in fact.  It also has the added bonus of letting you control your PSP via PC game controller or keyboard, which is super nice for getting the real "full screen PSP" experience.

Yeah, Except this seems to have it's own dedicated video processor, while RJL uses software and that causes it to skip frames a bunch because it's using "Megahurtz" from the PSP to achieve its goal. If someone made something like this for PSP or Vita I would be interested, because having a dedicated hardware handling the video processing is nice.

On a similar note, I wonder if you can use this device to control the 3DS with a controller or keyboard/mouse. But I imagine not since this is just soldered to the Video out and has no access to the 3DS's "input" functions that RJL has because it works via software. Playing PSP games with a Dual Shock 2/3 is really comfortable.

I know the PS Eye does 640x480@75Hz(Or 320x240@125Hz) and it pretty much fully saturates the USB 2.0 bus. I wonder if when the 800x240 support is added someone could write a version of the program to be compatible with 3D monitors or TVs.

200 Is a bit much for me right now, but This seems like something really nice.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on September 27, 2012, 12:52:36 AM
Ah, I know there is a "lossless" setting for one of the "mp4" encoders. I can't read goodly. I prefer MSU Screen Capture or UTVideo for my lossless, but I'll try out the Techsmith thing.

When you installed the TSSCC codec, drag the thing all the way to the left.

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/techsmithlossless.gif)

Then do a recording or whatever, preferably from a emulator source like SNES9x or whatever, then open with VirtualDubMod and output a PNG image from any frame. You will see godly pixel perfect no-color-loss results. :3
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on September 27, 2012, 03:05:21 AM
When you installed the TSSCC codec, drag the thing all the way to the left.

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/techsmithlossless.gif)

Then do a recording or whatever, preferably from a emulator source like SNES9x or whatever, then open with VirtualDubMod and output a PNG image from any frame. You will see godly pixel perfect no-color-loss results. :3

http://compression.ru/video/quality_measure/video_measurement_tool_en.html
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on September 27, 2012, 03:49:06 AM
you can drag one of the unwanted screens in a corner, or doubleclick on the one you want to display in fullscreen.

Yes, that's exactly what I wanted. Very awesome! A total sale for me, once I'm out of budget crunch.

What happens when you put the console into 3D mode? Do you get a double display, or mixed (line by line) display? Some 3D TV's could possibly pick up on that if you had the right setup and it was sending the right format. If you wan't an example, check out Sonic Generations' 3D mode with a non-3D TV. If it could do something like that, then you could totally get a 3D TV going with it. How epic would that be?!
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on September 27, 2012, 04:00:23 AM
What happens when you put the console into 3D mode?

With the current version of the software, dragging the 3D slider up will show only one of the stereoscopic images on the PC software display. But loopy said there will be updates for it so there can be some proper stereoscopic display later. The webpage mentions most of the details and also has a support forum. (http://3dscapture.com/)

If I'm not mistaken, he worked on the Jumbotron DS as well. He's ancient and well-known in the mod scene. XD
http://home.comcast.net/~olimar/DS/jumbotron/
http://home.comcast.net/~olimar/DSCapture/
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on September 27, 2012, 04:03:42 AM
Well, well. It just keeps getting better and better. It even increases the console size, which my hands will appreciate.

Speaking of that though, it says no XL compatibility. I hope that changes. Perhaps by the time I will get it, they will have such compatibility. My hands really hate the current 3DS size and shape, so I fully intend to get an XL eventually.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Ladd Spencer on September 27, 2012, 10:11:57 PM
(You know you need to do some footage of the ninja chick brawler now.)
[youtube]rCzAxCz2kj0[/youtube]

This?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on September 27, 2012, 11:14:57 PM
SNES version is pretty cool~

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obw1AXasn88[/youtube]

Kunoichi~ <3
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on September 27, 2012, 11:45:05 PM
That looks awesome. I'll have to try that out. Lol, green blood though.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Ladd Spencer on September 28, 2012, 03:46:52 AM
SNES version is pretty cool~
Yea, I started watching videos of it after searching up the one I posted. My maximum exposure had been on an emulator. My friend said I have a knack for picking games off of shelves just as much as alphabetical lists. Gotta find it for SNES whenever I can.

[youtube]WSJ2L35CSog[/youtube]

I know arcade versions are always the best, but hot damn.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on September 28, 2012, 05:05:54 AM
More NES screen pixel filter stretchiness, cover your eyes! XD

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-fc-rockman3-01.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-fc-rockman3-01.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-fc-rockman3-02.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-fc-rockman3-02.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-fc-rockman3-03.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-fc-rockman3-03.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-fc-rockman3-04.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-fc-rockman3-04.png)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on September 28, 2012, 06:10:13 AM
More NES screen pixel filter stretchiness, cover your eyes! XD

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-fc-rockman3-01.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-fc-rockman3-01.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-fc-rockman3-02.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-fc-rockman3-02.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-fc-rockman3-03.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-fc-rockman3-03.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-fc-rockman3-04.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-fc-rockman3-04.png)

Ick, its not like the screen resolution of the NES is bigger than the 3DS resolution, right?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on September 28, 2012, 06:39:08 AM
Nah, there's 2 resolutions for NES: 256x224 and 256x240 (I prefer the last one).
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: N-Mario on September 28, 2012, 06:51:42 AM
With the current version of the software, dragging the 3D slider up will show only one of the stereoscopic images on the PC software display. But loopy said there will be updates for it so there can be some proper stereoscopic display later. The webpage mentions most of the details and also has a support forum. (http://3dscapture.com/)

If I'm not mistaken, he worked on the Jumbotron DS as well. He's ancient and well-known in the mod scene. XD
http://home.comcast.net/~olimar/DS/jumbotron/
http://home.comcast.net/~olimar/DSCapture/

Wait..... So he sells DS USB Capture cards too?

Do you have to mod your DS's to do these things provided the set gives instructions how to set up, or does the thing he's selling is all ready for use? Do you just need that USB, plug it in and start recording? On the site it says it only works for the old PHAT DS. Also that he's selling these pre-installed. So I take it it sounds like there is some modding involved here for the users?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on September 28, 2012, 07:41:23 AM
Think of it more like an in-line video signal bypass.
VixyNyan can correct me, but what I imagine is happening is that he is soldering in extra leads on the video signal pins for the LCD screens and running it through some sort of signal conversion to a USB port and then on the computer side it decodes the signal into Video that Windows or whatever other platforms he makes applications for it for can understand.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on September 30, 2012, 10:43:20 PM
Ick, its not like the screen resolution of the NES is bigger than the 3DS resolution, right?
An actual NES hooked up to a television stretches the screen horizontally somewhat (neither of the NES's two resolutions are a proper 4:3 ratio).  That's why us old guys all screwed up our precision jumping when we first played Mario Bros. Deluxe on the Gameboy Color.  Throughout a handheld generation of Mario Advance ports, we adjusted.

What's going on is that the 3DS is attempting to simulate that old TV stretching instead of doing a straight 256x240 window.  But it looks ugly as hell on a fixed pixel display, I agree.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on October 01, 2012, 07:02:48 PM
Rockman ZX Advent
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-ds-rockmanzxadvent-01.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-ds-rockmanzxadvent-01.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-ds-rockmanzxadvent-02.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-ds-rockmanzxadvent-02.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-ds-rockmanzxadvent-03.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-ds-rockmanzxadvent-03.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-ds-rockmanzxadvent-04.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/3ds-ds-rockmanzxadvent-04.png)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on October 05, 2012, 12:35:37 AM
So hey, Etrian Odyssey IV is being localized with the subtitle Legends of the Titan.

Due out early 2013.

Source (http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=187050)

Posted on: October 03, 2012, 11:52:07 PM
Nintendo eShop for Nintendo 3DS Heats up for the Holidays (release dates, new games and more) (http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=187098)

REDMOND, Wash.--(BUSINESS WIRE)-- Nintendo 3DS owners are getting an amazing lineup of downloadable games for the holidays and beyond. Original games, classic games and demos will all be making an appearance in the Nintendo eShop. Fans also will soon find downloadable versions of select Nintendo 3DS hits that have already launched as packaged goods.

Nintendo 3DS owners will see a sequel to fan-favorite Pushmo, classics like Ninja Gaiden and Castlevania: The Adventure, plus a series of three original games developed by LEVEL-5 and several well-known Japanese collaborators.

“The Nintendo eShop demonstrates Nintendo’s commitment to providing consumers with unique digital content through a combination of creativity and convenience,” said Scott Moffitt, Nintendo of America’s executive vice president of Sales & Marketing. “The variety and quality of games coming this year is unmatched, from new entries in established franchises to original properties.”

The following content is scheduled to launch in the Nintendo eShop in 2012:

ORIGINAL GAMES

NightSky launches Oct. 25. NightSky is an action-puzzle game that offers an ambient game-play experience with cerebral challenges that fill uniquely designed, picturesque worlds. Each of these worlds is broken into different areas in which the player must maneuver a sphere by using realistic physics to advance.

Crashmo launches Nov. 22. Players can embrace the laws of gravity and challenge themselves with a whole new kind of action-puzzle play in this exciting sequel to the critically acclaimed Pushmo. New gravity mechanics and gadgets like floating blocks, doors and move switches await, testing players’ skills as they push, pull and slide each puzzle’s colorful blocks in order to climb to the top. Just be careful where those blocks are moved—unsupported blocks will come crashing down. Crashmo contains lots of puzzles to test your brains, and enhanced puzzle-creation and -sharing features mean that even when all the puzzles are cleared, the fun never has to stop.

Fluidity: Spin Cycle arrives on Dec. 27, letting players tilt, turn and even rotate their Nintendo 3DS system 360 degrees to maneuver a puddle of water named Eddy through a maze-like, magical world. Change from liquid to a block of ice or a steam cloud to solve fun, gravity-defying puzzles and defeat Goop monsters. Fluidity: Spin Cycle features a new storybook setting to explore that spans the ages, from a lost world full of dinosaurs to the modern world and beyond.

Three original games from LEVEL-5 and several well-known Japanese collaborators will launch in the Nintendo eShop for Nintendo 3DS before this holiday season. The first of these games, SUDA 51’s LIBERATION MAIDEN, is set 100 years in the future, when the president of Japan boards her Liberator, Kamui, and fights to free her country one region at a time. AERO PORTER by Yoot Saito and Yasumi Matsuno’s CRIMSON SHROUD are also slated for release by the end of the year.

Get ready to unleash pedestrian-tossing pandemonium with Grace and Savannah in Tokyo Crash Mobs, a fast-paced action-puzzle game coming to the Nintendo eShop for Nintendo 3DS in early 2013. Players will need lightning-fast reflexes and an eye for strategy to survive the three chaotic weeks that lie ahead for our heroines, as they take on anyone and anything that gets in their way.

RECENT NINTENDO 3DS HITS AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD

Super Mario 3D Land, The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D, Star Fox 64 3D and Mario Kart 7 will become available for purchase from the Nintendo eShop on Oct. 18 at a price of $39.99 each. Additional Nintendo 3DS software currently only available at retail stores will become available in the Nintendo eShop in the future.

VIRTUAL CONSOLE

Mario Golf (launches Oct. 11)
Castlevania: The Adventure (launches Oct. 25)
Ninja Gaiden (launches Nov. 8)
Zelda II – The Adventure of Link (launches Nov. 22)
Wario Land II (launches Dec. 20)
Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels (launches Dec. 27)

GAME DEMOS

Two demo versions of Style Savvy: Trendsetters will be available for download from the Nintendo eShop. The first demo is available today and lets players participate in a fashion contest, create an outfit based on the contest theme, style their model’s hair and makeup and send her down the runway. The second demo will be available on Nov. 1, and lets players style their clothes and makeup, and then connect to the Internet via Nintendo Network to visit the online Fashion Plaza where they can check out ensembles that actual Style Savvy: Trendsetters players have created. Any items purchased using in-game currency in this demo version can be transferred to the full game. Style Savvy: Trendsetters will launch in stores and in the Nintendo eShop on Oct. 22.

Additional game demos coming soon include:

Adventure Time: Hey Ice King! Why’d you steal our garbage?!! from D3Publisher
Disney Epic Mickey: Power of Illusion from Disney Interactive
LEGO The Lord of the Rings from Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment
Moshi Monsters: Moshlings Theme Park from Activision
Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed from SEGA

Remember that Nintendo 3DS features parental controls that let adults manage the content their children can access. For more information about this and other features, visit http://www.nintendo.com/3ds (http://www.nintendo.com/3ds). For more information about Nintendo, visit http://www.nintendo.com (http://www.nintendo.com).
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on October 05, 2012, 02:07:58 AM
VIRTUAL CONSOLE

Mario Golf (launches Oct. 11)
Castlevania: The Adventure (launches Oct. 25)
Ninja Gaiden (launches Nov. 8 )
Zelda II – The Adventure of Link (launches Nov. 22)
Wario Land II (launches Dec. 20)
Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels (launches Dec. 27)

So, lets see.

Mario Golf, that's actually pretty cool (even if it is the third [tornado fang]ing golf game on the eShop, its like they're competing with the US PSN's multitude of shitty Bass fishing games), Tennis next? (Though they won't have Link-Up capabilities anymore...)
Ninja Gaiden, NES I would assume.
Why not just get the rest of the NES Ambassador games out the door they're all ready after all.
Wario Land 2, About [tornado fang]ing time, now lets get KDL2 because for fucks sake there is no good in setting records for "Longest gap between release in English-Speaking Countries"
Lost Levels, own it already, next.

Watch as after this they go into another 2 month lull with the VC games then push them out again. Oh NoA you mismanage your digital platforms so well.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Ladd Spencer on October 05, 2012, 06:15:08 AM
Ninja Gaiden (launches Nov. 8)
I was just playing that on my Nintenders tonight.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on October 29, 2012, 09:12:40 PM
(http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc288/Superdee100/IMG_20121028_171523.jpg?t=1351541378)

This keeps showing up when you're playing something. Does this happen to anyone else?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on October 30, 2012, 12:38:56 AM
Only if said Mii is playing something that isn't supposed to be revealed. ;3

Same thing happens for RawMeatCowboy (GoNintendo) when he plays Paper Mario on the 3DS.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on October 30, 2012, 07:17:17 AM
I've been playing Professor Layton and the Miracle Mask. Another friend had the same issue.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Archer on October 30, 2012, 07:22:46 AM
I

[spoiler]never look at what other people are playing.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on October 30, 2012, 07:25:58 AM
oh also, since this is relevant

Denpa Ningen RPG 2 confirmed for NA localization as The Denpa Men 2!!

Source (https://twitter.com/DenpaMen/status/262856528095236096)

the first one was great and I highly recommend everyone (in NA) get it. Mostly because it's worth it, but also because you can transfer your Denpa Men from DM1 to DM2, and because if you get the Completion Emblem in DM1 from getting every item you can transfer it to DM2 and unlock something.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Archer on October 30, 2012, 07:33:48 AM
sounds like gay porn
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on October 30, 2012, 04:57:22 PM
sounds like gay porn

The full title makes it worse

[spoiler]The Denpa Men: They Came by Wave[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on October 30, 2012, 05:00:08 PM
The full title makes it worse

[spoiler]The Denpa Men: They Came by Wave[/spoiler]


The uh.. advertisement doesn't make matters any better.
[youtube]usEzrYP5uNM[/youtube]
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Post by: Phi on October 30, 2012, 05:06:02 PM
... Well, it's official then.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on October 31, 2012, 04:36:14 AM
...

recommend a good game with a possibly questionable title and everyone giggles like 12-year-olds.

:\
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Post by: xnamkcor on October 31, 2012, 05:43:18 AM
...

recommend a good game with a possibly questionable title and everyone giggles like 12-year-olds.

:\

Is there a game for Boku no Sexual Harassment?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on October 31, 2012, 05:55:06 AM
...

recommend a good game with a possibly questionable title and everyone giggles like 12-year-olds.

:\
Well with the name and advertisement can you blame them, it looks interesting though.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Ladd Spencer on October 31, 2012, 06:45:48 AM
My Sexual Harassment?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on October 31, 2012, 07:41:39 AM
Well with the name and advertisement can you blame them, it looks interesting though.
I still fail to see how it sounds like a gay porn.

Denpa, from the Japanese word for Radio. Japanese title being Denpa Ningen RPG, so literally radio human role-playing game. (after watching the Ryuusei no Rockman anime, I noticed they say denpa ningen a lot because of what it means)

The Denpa Men, obviously meaning the same thing as the original Japanese title.

They Came By Wave, referencing the fact these Denpa Men come and go via radio waves.

The advertising may help, but the title... you're stretching it if you think it sounds like that. Either that or trying to bandwagon with Archer who started this whole discussion.

Still, try the game out (there's a free demo on the 3DS eShop that lets you save at any time and transfer your data to the full game) before shunning it just because you find some issue with the name.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Ladd Spencer on October 31, 2012, 08:43:55 AM
I think it's waves of semen, but that's still a long stretch.

On a side note, isn't Little Red Riding Hood a very suggestive title? Little. Red. Riding. Hood.
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Post by: Sakura Leic on October 31, 2012, 09:12:08 AM
Dude I meant the fact that the commercial looks very controversial and, along with the title, can give people the wrong idea.  

A kid catches grown men in one piece jump suits that were in very weird positions in nets and then they follow the kid around looking very very happy.  I mean that doesn't make me think of porn, but it does give a very negative image, like slavery, stalking, and maybe pedophilia due to the fact that they're grown men.  The title just enhances that a little bit on the latter 2.  

Like I said it's a very interesting game and I may try it out, the commercial will give people the wrong idea however.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Ladd Spencer on October 31, 2012, 10:30:43 AM
What does make you think of porn?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Archer on November 01, 2012, 03:42:28 AM
the advertisement was soo gay porn mirby don't deny it

the kid shoots his semen at the strange men and then they decide to follow him around afterwards
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on November 01, 2012, 03:48:28 AM
perhaps you should play the game instead of judging it on a commercial
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Archer on November 01, 2012, 03:49:23 AM
i'm not judging the game at all?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on November 01, 2012, 03:52:01 AM
okay then

glad we got that settled
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Archer on November 01, 2012, 04:42:32 AM
man you guys will take anything and jump on it

can't even make dumb jokes anymore
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on November 01, 2012, 05:31:02 AM
Not to mention it would seem the lot of you lost your shift keys.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Archer on November 01, 2012, 05:31:34 AM
Not to mention it would seem the lot of you lost your shift keys.

i did it first

everyone just copied me
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Ladd Spencer on November 01, 2012, 05:35:03 AM
HOW DO I TURN OFF CAPSLOCK
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on November 01, 2012, 05:41:22 AM
HOW DO I TURN OFF CAPSLOCK

You don"t< you just hold shift>
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on November 01, 2012, 11:46:36 PM
can't even make dumb jokes anymore
Oh please, I make dumb jokes all the time.  It just doesn't work when that's ALL you do.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Archer on November 01, 2012, 11:50:24 PM
Oh please, I make dumb jokes all the time.  It just doesn't work when that's ALL you do.

but i don't have anything else
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on November 02, 2012, 12:04:34 AM
but i don't have anything else

You have our love.

...yeah, I understand your ways now!
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Ladd Spencer on November 02, 2012, 04:28:16 AM
Oh please, I make dumb jokes all the time.  It just doesn't work when that's ALL you do.
You and Mirby hate his jokes? I like them.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on November 02, 2012, 05:51:09 AM
did i say i hated them?

really, where'd i say that?

if anything i hate yours, but that's another matter entirely

and to bring it back on topic

3DS games releasing this month (that I'm looking forward to
Paper Mario: Sticker Star [November 11]
Epic Mickey: Power of Illusion [November 18]
Adventure Time: Hey, Ice King! Why'd You Steal Our Garbage? [November 20] [demo on November 15]

there's also Zelda 2 dropping November 22, along with Crashmo, the sequel to Pushmo.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on November 03, 2012, 01:51:56 AM

Adventure Time: Hey, Ice King! Why'd You Steal Our Garbage? [November 20] [demo on November 15]


I saw a trailer for that on the eShop, and holy [parasitic bomb] it actually looks fun. I think Wayforward is developing it, so that's probably why. I might be crazy enough to buy it.

the kid shoots his semen at the strange men and then they decide to follow him around afterwards

I'll be damned if a plot like this doesn't exist in Japan.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on November 03, 2012, 09:56:25 PM
Well I wrote a review for the game, so I'll post it here so you have info other than that potentially misleading ad.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-YLraZgdFPXI/UGSGK1BNOsI/AAAAAAAACVE/kEpNP3nWqIg/s640/sec01_img%5B1%5D.png)

THE "DENPA" MEN: They Came by Wave

Platform: 3DS (eShop-only)

Developer: Genius Sonority

Genre: Platformer
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Known in Japan as Denpa Ningen RPG, or roughly translated (or rather, Google translated because I'm lazy) "Human Radio," referencing the titular humanoid creatures that ride on the radio waves all around us. For those of you who've played Mega Man Star Force, think Mr. Hertz and the EM beings. Anyways, the game suddenly was mentioned a few weeks back as being localized. The second entry of the series, Denpa Ningen RPG 2 hit the Japanese eShop last Thursday (September 27, 2012), the same day the North America eShop received the first entry, the one you're reading a review for right now.

The game is touted as being an Augmented Reality Role Playing Game, in that you use the 3DS Camera to scan your surroundings and reveal the little Denpa Men floating along like fish in the ocean. For those that don't want to use the camera but still catch Denpa Men, there's a handy Manner Mode which turns off the camera and replaces the background with a blue wireframe. The first thing you'll notice about the Denpa Men is that they're all pretty much wearing a bodysuit, somewhat like a Mii but with arms. The second thing you'll notice is that those suits are different colors.

(http://i.imgur.com/othXF.gif)

Here's the fun thing: those colors determine their elemental strengths and weaknesses. Black bodysuits have no strengths or weaknesses. White ones are strong against Dark without weaknesses. Red is weak to water and strong to fire, whereas green is strong against wind and weak against water. Then there's striped Denpa Men, such as the one below. Danny there is red and light blue, meaning he's strong against fire and ice. The third thing you'll notice is that some have antennas and some don't. These determine their abilities; each Denpa Man can only have one ability, but they can grow. Occasionally you'll find a Denpa Man with an Antenna Root; those grow into rare abilities and are rare themselves depending on where you live. And occasionally you'll even come across shiny Denpa Men that appear white on the touch screen radar; these Denpa Men hold rare abilities and are rare themselves.

When you start a new game, you'll get a Hero with a random name like all the others, random facial appearance, and a random color. The hero will always have the Revive ability though. From there, you catch a few more Denpa Men to make your party grow. Your home base is Digitoll (a pun on digital), an island that houses many things. You'll find an antenna which captures Denpa Men, a house for all your Denpa Men to stay in, a shop run by a dwarf, a shrine to revive fallen Denpa Men, a PC to scan QR codes to receive Denpa Men from others, a museum that shows every antenna ability you've seen in the game, a port to see the World Map and head out to other islands, and the first dungeon. The handy part about the World Map is it tells you a recommended level for each island, which is its own dungeon.

When you first enter a dungeon, you'll see its name along with an episode title akin to anime and your hero will talk to you. You explore the dungeon in old-school RPG fashion, which is wandering aimlessly looking for treasure and the next floor. Enemies appear on the map, so you can flee them if they haven't seen you yet or if you're sufficiently leveled to outrun them when they chase you. A handy map is also filled in on the touch screen, useful for the inevitable repeat trips through the dungeons for treasure and experience. Within every dungeon hides a healing fountain (except the first) that restores all your HP and AP and removes all status effects. Occasionally you'll find a dwarf who'll give you a recuperative massage (I think) with the same effect.

(http://nintendo3dsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Denpa-Men-Small.jpg)

You'll also find a warp when you're near the boss of the dungeon. This is useful in most dungeons as it gives a safe way to heal, and you can check out the scenes before each boss battle without triggering them (you still need to walk up to the boss in most cases to trigger the battle) and then run back and leave. The game autosaves whenever you return to the World Map from a dungeon or finish doing ANYTHING on Digitoll, which is useful. When you get into a battle, which you will, there's four things you can do. Let the computer decide, make everyone attack, choose everyone's attacks yourself, or run. The AI is pretty good too; often I'd leave it up to the AI and it usually would do what I wanted, though it also became predictable on some grinding trips so I had to compensate with some manual orders a few times. Overall, it's useful and speeds up the battles. And if your quests go unsuccessful and everyone dies, you can recapture lost Denpa Men with the Shrine. Just be prepared to spend a lot of Offerings if your guys were high-level.

And speaking of battles, the monster designs are great in this; there's a few designs I'm surprised I hadn't seen before, but I'll leave those as a surprise for obvious reasons. I loved encountering new enemies and seeing the clever designs, though the staple palette swaps were in full supply as usual. The game is full of a quirky charm, and a quirky sense of humor in everything from the text to the monsters. One Denpa Man I caught asked me, "Is this some sort of scam?" Another inquired, "Is my beauty a crime?" You can also talk to them in the Denpa House and get some seasonal dialogue based on the internal clock. The music is also quite quirky, handled by Hitoshi Sakimoto and Basiscape. Honestly, I love all the songs, and was surprised he was behind it.

One of the fun things about this game was that within every dungeon you would find some sort of upgrade for something on Digitoll, and after every dungeon the shop stocked new items. It became rather exciting, seeing my home base grow with my Denpa Men, new features coming as a reward for clearing a dungeon. It was also nice being able to upgrade my Denpa Men with accessories and clothes to reflect the changing environments in the game. Yeah, your team of firebending Denpa Men who can't be touched by wind may be good for one dungeon, but you may need to switch that up for the next dungeon; that one has a lot of water, and your fire team will be extinguished. There's a balance, you find, and exploiting that is the best way to survive in this game. It's surprisingly tactical when it comes down to it.

(http://www.nintendojo.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Catch.png)

So is this game worth it or should it have stayed in Japan? Personally I didn't even know it existed until I saw the sequel on a Japanese Nintendo Direct, and I fell in love instantly. Everything about it is quirky, and it's a breath of fresh air. It also has some pretty good 3D, if you like using your 3DS for that. There's a free demo on the eShop that everyone should check out; not only can you save your progress at any time, you can save transfer data to the full game. This allows you to keep your progress and Denpa Men intact for the full game, which is only $9.99.

It also has about 20 hours of gameplay for the main storyline. Notice the italics; you probably know what the reason for that is. Yep, once you beat the final boss a post-game storyline consisting of three dungeons with recommended levels ranging from 40 to 60 opens up. I haven't quite started on those yet, but I look forward to seeing what they look like and the enemies present within. And, of course, treasure hunting. I may just update this review when I finish those, and I may not. Either way, I foresee a lot more time with the Denpa Men in my future. Perhaps you'll spend some time with them as well... Until next time, game on!

to note: since i wrote this review, i have started on the post-game dungeons. and they're great. i enjoy them a lot.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Ladd Spencer on November 05, 2012, 11:57:30 PM
really, where'd i say that?
When you went back and forth with him about Denpa Gay Men
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on January 02, 2013, 02:09:43 AM
Nikki wishes us all a happy new year~

(http://meow.vixynyan.com/3dsnikki2013.png) (http://meow.vixynyan.com/3dsnikki2013.png)

I snapped the screenshots myself. ^^
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on February 07, 2013, 11:57:14 PM
Playing the Etrian Odyssey demo right now and HOLY CHEESE the music is so orgasmic. Particularly the town music. I haven't even gone into battle yet, I'm just sitting here listening to this beautiful OST. Dare I say even better than Uprising's tracks. Typical of Atlus, pre-ordering this game gives you the soundtrack CD and artbook. I'm tempted to pre-order for the soundtrack alone.

Oh, and your avatar is mighty tasty, Vixy.  <3
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on February 08, 2013, 12:39:30 AM
Consider this. The guy who made the music, Yuzo Koshiro...

I met him.

Got his autograph.

Jammed to a DJ set he played.

:D

and yes the music is OH SO GOOD HOLY [tornado fang]
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on February 08, 2013, 01:05:41 AM
Judging by the fact that its Koshiro, its probably not good music.

Its probably [tornado fang]ing amazing music.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on February 08, 2013, 01:33:30 AM
Judging by the fact that its Koshiro, its probably not good music.

Its probably [tornado fang]ing amazing music.
And the award for understatement of the year goes to....

:D
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on February 09, 2013, 07:04:29 AM
Demo was surprisingly lengthy (about 3-4 hours straight through, and much more if you go back to grind). And the progress from your demo transfers to the full game. Pre-ordered this badboy at the speed of light. Maybe it's because this is my first dungeon crawler or the fact that I've never played an EO game before this, but I loved it so much. Creating your own "survival" map is sheer awesome, crafting your battle strategy is great, music is godly, and the menus are effective.

I still don't have Fire Emblem yet due to Nintendo's shipment fail, but once that and EOIV arrive, the 3DS will be like heaven to me.

Judging by the fact that its Koshiro, its probably not good music.

Its probably [tornado fang]ing amazing music.

I'll have to check out more of this dude's compositions. This is probably my favorite track from the demo:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCZjnuS6ESc[/youtube]
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on February 09, 2013, 07:21:29 AM
the 3DS will be like heaven to me.
And there were people who swore this would never happen >0<

and yes i love that track too

did you manage to defeat any FOEs? I killed one of the baboons in the old mine.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on February 09, 2013, 07:31:29 AM
I'll have to check out more of this dude's compositions.

Streets of Rage.
Especially 2.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on February 09, 2013, 07:46:46 AM
And there were people who swore this would never happen >0<

and yes i love that track too

did you manage to defeat any FOEs? I killed one of the baboons in the old mine.

I killed some "Angry Baboons" in the Lush Woodlans labyrinth (though they're not really FOEs). Also managed to kill two of the baboons in the old mine. I'm level 8 and came close to dying, good thing I put a medic in my party. I came extremely close to killing one of the huge bears in the Lush Woodlands, but no dice.

I might just wait until I get the full game to continue grinding and whatnot.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on February 09, 2013, 07:53:43 AM
That's exactly how I feel.

Yeah, Angry Baboons aren't FOEs, but the Nomad Baboons in the old mine are.

Felt so good to kill one. :3
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on February 16, 2013, 05:58:52 AM
New Nintendo Direct came up.

Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D in summer 2013.

So now they're resorting to rehashing games that are still readily available, that are less than three years old? Why?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Archer on February 16, 2013, 06:02:00 AM
Because people eat up whatever Nintendo releases.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on February 16, 2013, 06:13:13 AM
Oh, I know. I'm going to get WW HD when Its out, but I never even finished DKC:R.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on February 16, 2013, 09:32:20 AM
I'm happy about DKCR3D. Finally, rolling mapped to a button AS IT SHOULD BE!

also Mario & Luigi: Dream Team. :3
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Archer on February 16, 2013, 09:34:31 AM
I'm happy about DKCR3D. Finally, rolling mapped to a button AS IT SHOULD BE!

I don't think thats enough to warrant a whole new game.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on February 16, 2013, 09:42:24 AM
You may not think so, but I do.

And when it comes to my opinion, that's what matters.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Kieran on February 20, 2013, 01:59:16 PM
I would've liked to see them remake a Zelda game that didn't hold up so well graphically over the years.  Wind Waker still looks good on an HDTV.  Other games, say... Majora's Mask?  Now that could use an HD remake.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on February 20, 2013, 06:53:02 PM
I would've liked to see them remake a Zelda game that didn't hold up so well graphically over the years.  Wind Waker still looks good on an HDTV.  Other games, say... Majora's Mask?  Now that could use an HD remake.

I feel that Majora's Mask would be much better suited for 3DS. The masks and transformations popping out at you would look pretty sweet.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on March 01, 2013, 11:38:11 PM
I feel that Majora's Mask would be much better suited for 3DS. The masks and transformations popping out at you would look pretty sweet.
That and constantly equipped ocarina + four item slots would help a lot (I'm thinking they'd use the OoT3D engine for it).

Also...

Quote from: BDFF Twitter
久しぶりにTwitterにアクセスしました。外国の方の声、ちゃんと届いてますよ! I accessed Twitter after a long absence. A voice of the foreign one arrives properly! ※翻訳ソフトを使用してます
Source (https://twitter.com/BDFF_OFFICIAL/status/307441160241180672)

bravely default localization hint?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on March 02, 2013, 12:37:42 AM
Source (https://twitter.com/BDFF_OFFICIAL/status/307441160241180672)

bravely default localization hint?

I really, really hope Bravely Default gets localized. Not sure if it was actually a good game, but it looks visually stunning.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on March 02, 2013, 07:19:25 AM
Vix, I would like to make a request for your image capture 3DS. I'd like to see Lords of Shadow Mirror of Fate demo being played, but with the recording software showing a frames per second (I think FRAPS has this feature?). I'd like to see the entire demo, if possible, one with the 3D enabled, one without. I realize there won't be any 3D output, but I'm looking for the difference in FPS between it being on and off.

If you could do that, that would be great. Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on March 02, 2013, 03:09:00 PM
I dont have the demo. I haven't seen it anywhere in in the Japanese Eshop. Also I didn't invest in an American 3DS with capture yet. Hopefully someone on YouTube with commentary already did it. ^^
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on March 02, 2013, 08:09:55 PM
Quote from: BDFF Twitter
海外の方からのコメントがとても多い! 皆様に遊んでもらえるようがんばります! There is very much comment from overseas one! I do my best to have all of you play! ※翻訳ソフトを使用してます^^;
Source (https://twitter.com/BDFF_OFFICIAL/status/307929760359645184)

More hints of localization.... I am excitebike.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on March 02, 2013, 08:15:21 PM
Fair enough. I see commentaries, but nothing with an FPS counter. If you happen upon the demo give it a shot I guess, if not my search continues.

Not sure when JPN gets the demo. Odd they didn't already. Thanks for looking into it regardless.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on March 03, 2013, 03:14:25 AM
Fair enough. I see commentaries, but nothing with an FPS counter. If you happen upon the demo give it a shot I guess, if not my search continues.

Not sure when JPN gets the demo. Odd they didn't already. Thanks for looking into it regardless.

I played the Castlevania demo already (US eShop). It has to be around 20fps (both 2D and 3D). I'm not even kidding, it's that bad.

Admittedly, I don't know the exact number, but it certainly isn't 30fps or anything higher. Not from the demo I've played.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on March 03, 2013, 04:19:45 AM
Yes, that is exactly why I want to see the FPS counter on it. It was about 20-25fps under normal play (not in combat) I'd estimate, and it just tanks from there. Some segments had to have reached about 10fps. It's really abysmal. It gets so bad that I noticed the game just drops button presses sometimes.

This is simply not acceptable, and a major reason why I'm not promoting this kind of poor development practice by buying it. There's a couple of other gripes I had with the game but that one was perhaps the most disgusting. It's ether apathy to the subject of framerates (which reflect concern for player eye comfort and playability) or just completely incompetent design or software engineering (or both).
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on March 03, 2013, 05:29:28 AM
I didn't notice any of this. I actually quite enjoyed the demo.

*shrug*
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on March 03, 2013, 10:04:10 PM
The fight against the three bat things after getting the boomerang is the worst part. I'd guess it drops to about 10fps. Try it again.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Flame on March 16, 2013, 04:03:15 AM
You guys hear Nintendo lost that lawsuit by that former Sony employee who claimed Nintendo infringed on his copyright on the "3D without the glasses" technology?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on March 16, 2013, 04:38:28 AM
You guys hear Nintendo lost that lawsuit by that former Sony employee who claimed Nintendo infringed on his copyright on the "3D without the glasses" technology?

Yeah, Nintendo only had to pay 30 mil. Which I'm sure doesn't effect them much.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 16, 2013, 04:56:04 AM
Chump change!
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on March 17, 2013, 03:50:50 AM
That's not exactly chump change, especially when you combine the fact that the WiiU is bombing hard and the 3DS had a very rough start forcing the half price drop. They were undoubtedly losing money on each 3DS sale, but the question is, are they actually making money on the 3DS unit sales at all even still? I'd have to guess not because the price drop was so dramatic. This may also change their manufacturing costs for the 3DS, and licensing costs for the technology in place. This all drops their income, and or raises their expenses. It's not just the 30mil, even though that's pretty bad in itself.

It won't sink them, but it's really bad regardless.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 17, 2013, 04:15:07 AM
They'll be fine.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Reaperoid on March 17, 2013, 04:25:36 AM
The case only hurt them about a dollar or two on each 3DS unit they've shipped
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on March 23, 2013, 04:39:06 AM
That's not exactly chump change, especially when you combine the fact that the WiiU is bombing hard and the 3DS had a very rough start forcing the half price drop. They were undoubtedly losing money on each 3DS sale, but the question is, are they actually making money on the 3DS unit sales at all even still? I'd have to guess not because the price drop was so dramatic. This may also change their manufacturing costs for the 3DS, and licensing costs for the technology in place. This all drops their income, and or raises their expenses. It's not just the 30mil, even though that's pretty bad in itself.

It won't sink them, but it's really bad regardless.
Supposedly Nintendo was no longer selling the 3DS at a loss as of July 25, 2012.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on March 28, 2013, 02:34:47 AM
If anyone cares about the EO series:

(http://gematsu.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Etrian-Odyssey-MG_Scan_03-26_001.jpg)

Etrian Odyssey: Millennium Girl (http://gematsu.com/2013/03/etrian-odyssey-millennium-girl-announced-for-3ds) announced. Coming to Japan on June 27.

Quote
- The story revolves around strong earthquakes and mysterious roaring in Etria. The protagonist (voiced by Kousuke Toriumi), a spear-wielder from the Highlander clan, is asked by the government of Etria to investigate and explore the ruins. Three other companions meet him on his investigation, and together go as far as the World Tree, which seems to have a deep connection to the ruins. During the investigation, they meet Frederica Irving (voiced by Maria Ise), a girl who lost her memories. She is a kind-spirited girl, but is wary of others, possibly because of her amnesia.

- During event scenes, each party member will have multiple portrait pictures with many expressions

- “The fun of the RPG was left just as it was, but since we’ve strengthened the story and characterization, this game will make it all the more easier to enjoy the true essence of the RPG,” said Komori

- Players will get missions from the Etria government, as well as necessary information and equipment. It’s recommend you visit various shops to prepare for your journey. If you have a mission or quest you can report on, their notification marker will appear on the right side of the screen.

Amnesia girl. How original.

Anyway, this is possibly a remake of the first game, with a much greater focus on characters and story; unlike typical EO fashion.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on March 29, 2013, 03:40:38 PM
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/64835841/hk_small.PNG)

HarmoKnight

Platforms: 3DS (eShop)

Developer: Game Freak

Genre: Rhythm/Platformer
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Last year, a game was announced via a Japanese Nintendo Direct event that caught my eye. No, it wasn't Denpa Ningen RPG 2 (though that was the same presentation and I was intrigued by it), the sequel to the already-reviewed The Denpa Men. It was a little game called HarmoKnight: Rhythm Hunter. It was a rhythm game from the minds at GameFreak, and though most of the songs were original there were some audio cameos in the form of Pokémon songs. Time went by and it was eventually announced for localization, much to the relief of many, myself included. And it just came out yesterday, sans the "Rhythm Hunter" subtitle. So was it everything I had waited for? Did it live up to the hype? Why don't you read on and find out, eh?

(http://media.edge-online.com/wp-content/uploads/edgeonline/2013/03/harmoknight2.jpg)

After a brief introduction, the game drops you off at some tutorials. Thankfully these are fun little endeavors that help you get acquainted with the game. Also there's only 3 of them, which helps too; the last of these is designed to kickstart the actual storyline, and does so quite nicely. Beings known as Noizoids have invaded the peaceful realm of Melodia, and their very presence emits sounds that drive the local creatures insane. Tempo, the main character, and Tappy, his lapin friend, are tasked with carrying a legendary staff to Symphony City where Princess Ariana can find a worthy hero to wield it. Along the way they meet up with Lyra, an archer who shoots enemies from afar with her harp, and Tyko, a drummer who travels the world with his monkey friend Cymbi. Both have brief tutorials on how to control them, as there are stages where they temporarily take over for Tempo partway through.

It's a small group, but no game truly needs a large ensemble. The gameplay is pretty simple too, utilizing only a few buttons. There's also a nice interconnected world map a la Super Mario World that you traverse. The map is broken into sections, usually based on genre. For instance, there's a jaunty march world, a craggy rock world, a festive jazz world, and so on. I really enjoyed seeing the new areas and hearing the music; it's pretty good, which is almost a prerequisite for any music game. The boss stages are fun too; these stages take a Simon approach to the gameplay. You're told what to do with vocal commands and then you repeat. For instance, one stage might have you input RIGHT LEFT HIT HIT JUMP, all to the rhythm of the music. As with many rhythm games, the more you play the better you get, and some stages may take several tries to get right.

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/64835841/hk_map.PNG)

You're ranked at the end of each stage based on how many notes you collected; if you score high enough, the notes will cause the Victory Flower at the end of every stage to bloom. This gives you the Royal Note for that stage, which are necessary to proceed through the game. There are three ranks you can earn upon completion of a stage: So-So, which does nothing and means you have to retry for that Royal Note (provided you haven't earned it already); Good, which earns you that much-needed Royal Note; and Great, which gets you both the Royal Note and unlocks the option to replay the stage at double speed. If you get a Great on both versions of a stage (normal and fast), you'll unlock concept art visible in the Stage Selector, accessible on the World Map by pressing Y.

There's a lot of replayability in this title, something that's common across all rhythm games. After all, you'll want to keep playing to get a high score, and in this game there's unlockables for doing just that. You can also listen to the music of any stage by highlighting it and hitting Start while in the Stage Selector, something that I find incredibly awesome. Though the story may not take long to wrap up, there's some extra-hard stages that lie hidden within the world of Melodia, and it'll take some exploration through the stages to find out how to unlock them. The game also has a great sense of humor; the interactions between the group were very well-written, and I eagerly awaited seeing what they'd say next. Even Tappy, the game's helper character, is funny; you'll find him holding signs at various places throughout the stages, and sometimes he says some pretty hilarious things. It's also fun to hit him; if you time it right, an attack will make him stumble backwards and drop the sign he's holding. What's even better is that this is a good indicator of whether your timing is off or not; if you can hit him, then you're in good shape to continue the stage.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIEqEDJXUxk[/youtube]

All in all, HarmoKnight is quite the gem. Though the pricetag might be a little high at $15, I find that it is well worth it. There's so much to do and the music is so good that I've found it difficult to put the game down; I'm constantly going back to old stages to get a Great on them, or trying the Fast version of a stage to get a Great on that. HarmoKnight is definitely worth your time; it's a welcome reminder that GameFreak can make fantastic games outside of Pokémon, and one that gives hope for more unique experiences from them. There's a free demo available right now, and though the available levels in that aren't quite in harmony with the locations in the actual game, it's still worth it to check that out. Until next time, game on!
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Post by: VixyNyan on April 17, 2013, 07:12:21 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-_1nQC_afE[/youtube]

The newest Nintendo Direct, featuring the new Yoshi's Island and Zelda 3DS game. :cookie:
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on April 17, 2013, 07:37:59 PM
Just finished watching it.  0v0

Vixy, let's go have some celebration sex!  8D
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Post by: VixyNyan on April 17, 2013, 07:49:00 PM
To the Sexcellent New Entertainment Shack! :3
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on April 17, 2013, 08:11:47 PM
To the Sexcellent New Entertainment Shack! :3

*gallantly leads Vixy there*  8)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on April 17, 2013, 08:12:23 PM
Earthbound coming to the Wii U?  Holy [parasitic bomb]! :o
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Post by: Police Girl on April 17, 2013, 08:21:35 PM
Earthbound coming to the Wii U?  Holy [parasitic bomb]! :o

If anybody actually ever read my updates in the VC thread... :(

I mean I even made the title different to make it stick out.
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Post by: Sakura Leic on April 17, 2013, 08:23:20 PM
Sorry I don't come here often unless it's Pokemon related. '>.>
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Post by: Hypershell on April 18, 2013, 12:44:02 AM
new Yoshi's Island
Knee-jerk, "WHOO-HOO!", followed by a small amount of fear from remembering the DS one...

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Zelda 3DS game. :cookie:
~w~

Seems like Nintendo is going New Super Mario on their other franchises, both in gameplay design and visual presentation.  The earlier, if it works as well, damn awesome.  The latter......I'll get used to it.
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Post by: Phi on April 19, 2013, 02:59:02 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZtUQK0VYz0&list=UUbIh1VbkLpsu-fRi23q6HFA&index=1[/youtube]

This is probably the game I look forward to the most from that Nintendo Direct stuff.

Knee-jerk, "WHOO-HOO!", followed by a small amount of fear from remembering the DS one...
 ~w~

(http://www.abload.de/img/y25nxmv.gif)

At least it looks pretty.
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Post by: Police Girl on April 19, 2013, 03:25:15 AM
I... hope that level they're showing in that Yoshi bit is just for demonstration.

Because that's clearly the first level of the game.
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Post by: Hypershell on April 19, 2013, 11:56:24 PM
You know, I don't have a link, but I saw some clips of what appeared to be hidden areas added to an older stage...
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Post by: Phi on May 02, 2013, 01:47:19 AM
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/137cdaf2c714406e810adb4f60cf53be/tumblr_mm3hxhN5uL1qzp9weo3_1280.jpg)
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/a2c225d7a028fc00e1b4099dfdb51a58/tumblr_mm3hxhN5uL1qzp9weo1_1280.jpg)

Mega Man 25th Anniversary 3DS/XL case coming soon (http://tinycartridge.com/post/49321184077/mega-man-25th-anniversary-3ds-case-coming-capcom)
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Post by: Protoman Blues on May 02, 2013, 04:10:18 AM
Meh.

I want a Blues decal!
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on May 02, 2013, 05:37:47 AM
Call me when they decide to pay homage to MM7's artstyle, I'm sick of 8-bit Mega.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on May 02, 2013, 09:50:15 AM
well to be fair, 8-bit Mega is the one turning 25. 16-bit MM7 Mega isn't. :/
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Post by: Police Girl on May 02, 2013, 10:20:31 AM
well to be fair, 8-bit Mega is the one turning 25. 16-bit MM7 Mega isn't. :/

EXE megaman wasn't turning 15 on that anniversary yet he was the mascot for that one.

Same with 20th and Star Force.
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Post by: Mirby on May 02, 2013, 05:04:29 PM
Eh. Those were just the most recent installments at the time of those anniversaries.

And the most recent installment as of this anniversary was SFxMM. Which is 8-bit Mega.

soooo yeah
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Post by: Police Girl on May 02, 2013, 05:06:16 PM
Eh. Those were just the most recent installments at the time of those anniversaries.

And the most recent installment as of this anniversary was SFxMM. Which is 8-bit Mega.

soooo yeah

Except thats a fangame.

Officially sanctioned, but fangame nonetheless.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on May 02, 2013, 05:15:47 PM
Still an official release on the official Capcom website.

And they were already in full-swing to release a bunch of stuff featuring 8-bit Mega, whether it was the titles on VC or the soundtracks for those titles.

It was just relevant to their anniversary plans.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on May 02, 2013, 05:28:05 PM
Still an official release on the official Capcom website.

And they were already in full-swing to release a bunch of stuff featuring 8-bit Mega, whether it was the titles on VC or the soundtracks for those titles.

It was just relevant to their anniversary plans.

Yeah, I guess.

I'm just really sick of 8-bit now.

Its overplayed, I mean, the original games (and 10) are great, but I can't be wrong in wanting something different for once.
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Post by: Mirby on May 03, 2013, 07:33:57 AM
True.

I am slowly tiring of it myself too.

It would probably help if not everyone and their mother was making 8-bit MM fangames.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on May 08, 2013, 10:39:31 PM
Sonic the Hedgehog 3D Classics-style port coming to Japan next week (http://www.siliconera.com/2013/05/07/sonic-the-hedgehog-getting-3d-classics-style-remake-next-week/)

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3D Sonic the Hedgehog is a port with a few modern tweaks. You can spin dash just like in Sonic the Hedgehog 2 and Sega added save states. Want to play the original game? There’s an option to turn spin dashes off and remap the buttons. Sonic maniacs might appreciate being able to switch between the Japanese release and International version to see minor differences when it comes to bonuses. You can even choose the sound emulation based on the Sega Genesis or the Sega Genesis model 2.

One other neat feature is you can switch between normal mode and a faux CRT classic mode (those old TVs with the screen bulged out). 3D graphics can be set to depth or zoom.

(http://storage.siliconera.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/sonic3d3.jpg)

(http://storage.siliconera.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/sonic3d6.jpg)

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Post by: Police Girl on May 08, 2013, 11:38:19 PM
That's the goofiest port ever.

I love the little visual quirks you can set though, Sega really does put a bit of love into their 3DS Ports, too bad we'll probably not see it on the US eShop for a long time (Like any new Game Gear VC games, or the 3D Classics Super Hang-On or Space Harrier.)
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Post by: Phi on May 08, 2013, 11:58:47 PM
I'm wondering if the CRT classic mode really is blurry like the screen shows. I know that's how the TVs were, but it would still be a terrible move on their part.
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Post by: Police Girl on May 09, 2013, 12:10:52 AM
Why? I actually think that would be better if that allowed the Faux-Transparency effects like the waterfalls in GHZ or even the ripples on the water of Labyrinth to be rendered properly.

The Mega Drive is one of those systems that I cannot stand to play in "Pixel-perfect" graphics simply because of how much they abused the blurriness of CRT to simulate transparency.
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Post by: Phi on May 09, 2013, 12:21:13 AM
Because of the 3D effect, which is the preferred way to play it.

Blurriness + 3D = eye strain. Well, 3D blurriness hurts my eyes at least.
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Post by: VixyNyan on May 09, 2013, 03:58:13 AM
So much play-testing to do once it shows up next week. ^^
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Post by: Hypershell on May 09, 2013, 04:09:23 AM
Because of the 3D effect, which is the preferred way to play it.

Blurriness + 3D = eye strain. Well, 3D blurriness hurts my eyes at least.
I imagine that's why both it and the 3D mode are presented as options.

Isn't this the first "16-bit" 3D Classics game to be released?  I'd just about buy it on those grounds alone.  Funny to see Sega of all people pushing a level of presentation that everyone else gave up on.
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Post by: Police Girl on May 09, 2013, 04:20:08 AM
Space Harrier was first.

And that one is currently Japan only, so yeah.
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Post by: Hypershell on May 09, 2013, 04:30:05 AM
Damn.  I'd actually be MORE interested in that, since I don't already own it...
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Post by: Phi on May 09, 2013, 04:31:09 AM
I imagine that's why both it and the 3D mode are presented as options.

Well, call me picky but seeing it in 3D would be much more impressive. I hate that I'd have to settle for 2D.
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Post by: Kieran on May 10, 2013, 01:19:38 AM
...Really, unless it's a 3D game, in which depth perception is actually helpful, 3D is a useless gimmick.  All it does is make the image pop out of the screen a little bit, and I can't imagine Sega is going to put forth a lot of effort to make it look good, because we're talking about yet another port of a game that has been re-released half a dozen times already.
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Post by: Police Girl on May 10, 2013, 01:25:44 AM
Not to mention a better port is on its way to iOS and Android.

If you've played Sonic 1 once, you've played it a million times, but I hear this is M2 doing the port (They made the great Vintage collections on 360 and PS3)
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Post by: Hypershell on May 10, 2013, 01:46:49 AM
...Really, unless it's a 3D game, in which depth perception is actually helpful, 3D is a useless gimmick.
...your point is what?  It looks pretty.  It doesn't NEED to be anything more than that.  Not every game can be Super Mario 3D Land.

Not to mention a better port is on its way to iOS and Android.
Ah, the old "they're the same damn game but you obviously should own it on this system" discussions, how I miss those.  Personally I don't care much unless I find out Tails is in the iOS/Android STH1.

And if he is, then I'll curse the fact that I don't own either device.... -_-
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Post by: VixyNyan on May 18, 2013, 02:58:21 AM
More experimenting~

http://www.rockmanpm.com/player/player.swf?file=http://meow.vixynyan.com/mariokart7_sfc_rainbowroad.mp4
http://meow.vixynyan.com/mariokart7_sfc_rainbowroad.mp4

http://www.rockmanpm.com/player/player.swf?file=http://meow.vixynyan.com/rockmanzx_area_d.mp4
http://meow.vixynyan.com/rockmanzx_area_d.mp4
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Post by: Phi on May 18, 2013, 03:10:39 AM
I think you should do at least one video of Ace Attorney 5 when it releases.

These are great.
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Post by: ViperAcidZX on May 18, 2013, 03:11:27 AM
Testing out your new PC's screen capture capabilities? The footages looks good and the frame-rate is smooth.
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Post by: Police Girl on June 13, 2013, 12:14:47 AM
I like how the framerate is a nice 60fps.

You don't see that often in video.

Posted on: May 17, 2013, 08:14:51 PM
Nintendo is making Streetpass better for us Not-Japanese people.

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Moving on to a different topic, the Nintendo 3DS hardware incorporates a feature known as StreetPass.
When the Nintendo 3DS system is in Sleep Mode, this feature allows users who are playing any StreetPass-compatible game to automatically exchange game data with other users in close proximity who are also playing the same game.
StreetPass is very common in crowded Japan. In contrast, our American and European users seem to meet each other via StreetPass less frequently, and as a result, we have not seen a significant rise in the number of people who carry their Nintendo 3DS systems in Sleep Mode. When compared with our Japanese users, it seems that fewer people are experiencing the StreetPass feature on a daily basis.
This year we will release software that opens doors for new ways to play through the StreetPass feature, such as “Animal Crossing: New Leaf,” and I hope that more people around the world will be able to experience the benefits that StreetPass provides.

We will achieve that by taking advantage of Wi-Fi access points and implementing a StreetPass relay feature into the Nintendo 3DS hardware.
Starbucks and McDonald’s, among others, provide about 28,000 Wi-Fi access points, which are connected automatically to Nintendo 3DS, in the U.S. and 24,000 in Europe.
We are going to perform a system update that introduces a framework that uses these access points as StreetPass relay stations by this autumn.
This will involve taking a Nintendo 3DS system in Sleep Mode to an access point which will then connect automatically and send StreetPass data to a server. At the same time, the Nintendo 3DS system also receives the StreetPass data of another user from the server. In this setting, data is not exchanged directly, but rather through a StreetPass relay station. Hence, as opposed to, say, Person A and Person B directly exchanging game data, data will be transmitted in sequence from Person A to Person B, and then onto Person C and so on.
But the surprising and magical feeling of exchanging data with someone you simply shared a location with is as real as before.
Previously the StreetPass feature required multiple Nintendo 3DS systems in Sleep Mode to be in the same location at the same time, but in this framework, you can exchange data with others by visiting the same location even at a different time, so we can certainly expect the use rate of the StreetPass feature to grow significantly.

I'm seriously surprised that Nintendo is changing it after they apparently insisted that it was fine for two years.
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Post by: Phi on June 13, 2013, 12:29:14 AM
That is certainly an improvement.

Although I still can't imagine many folks carrying a 3DS and turning on the Wi-Fi connection at locations like those where I live. If I want to StreetPass people, I'll just go to conventions like Comic Con and the like.
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Post by: Police Girl on June 13, 2013, 12:30:34 AM
My Wi-Fi is always on and I assume most people have it on all the time.
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Post by: Phi on June 13, 2013, 12:41:09 AM
I turn off the Wi-Fi when I'm done using the 3DS for the day. And even when I have the 3DS on, I don't always have the Wi-Fi on.
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Post by: Mirby on June 13, 2013, 02:06:42 AM
i always have it on

just because why not

also it's not like you'll have to manually connect; with the system update it'll read those hotspots as streetpasses, that's all.
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Post by: Kieran on June 13, 2013, 01:45:47 PM
I don't really care about StreetPass in any way, shape or form, so I save my battery by keeping wireless turned off.
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Post by: Protoman Blues on June 13, 2013, 06:27:27 PM
I love StreetPasses. I carry my 3DS with me at all times when I go into the city or on a trip, just so I can get them. Hell, I brought it with me to Disney World and got lots of people from different countries. It was awesome.
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Post by: Hypershell on June 14, 2013, 05:10:10 AM
I just want the rest of those frikkin' Puzzle Swap panels.  When you're not in a big city and/or at Comic Con, those pink pieces are damn near impossible to find...
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on June 14, 2013, 05:16:52 AM
I just want the rest of those frikkin' Puzzle Swap panels.  When you're not in a big city and/or at Comic Con, those pink pieces are damn near impossible to find...

This pretty much.

I freaking love looking at my finished puzzles like Twilight Princess, Kirby and Galaxy. They're so crisp and detailed.

I really want to see the completed puzzles that have those damn pink pieces.
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Post by: Protoman Blues on June 14, 2013, 05:18:28 AM
I just want the rest of those frikkin' Puzzle Swap panels.  When you're not in a big city and/or at Comic Con, those pink pieces are damn near impossible to find...

IN NEW YOOOOOOOOOOORK. PINK PIECES ARE WHAT YOU GET LOTS OF. COMPLETE PUZZLE PANELS!
NOW YOU'RE IN NEW YOOOOOOOOOORRK!!

 8D
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Post by: Phi on June 14, 2013, 05:23:37 AM
IN NEW YOOOOOOOOOOORK. PINK PIECES ARE WHAT YOU GET LOTS OF. COMPLETE PUZZLE PANELS!
NOW YOU'RE IN NEW YOOOOOOOOOORRK!!

 8D

I should walk through Manhattan again one of these days. I never imagined many people in the city carrying a 3DS with them.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on June 14, 2013, 05:24:31 AM
It depends. Sometimes I can get like 2-3. Sometimes I can get 10.
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Post by: Fxeni on June 15, 2013, 08:32:45 PM
Where I am is pretty awesome for it to. Granted, a lot of that might be from my work...
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Post by: Phi on June 15, 2013, 08:38:03 PM
I have no job currently, so no StreetPass for me, unless I walk through the city and get lucky.
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Post by: OBJECTION MAN on June 16, 2013, 10:41:15 PM
The whole idea of Street Pass is to promote public interest and compound the awareness for the system, covered in a gameplay mechanic. This is why you see Nintendo actually taking strides to fix it. They thought things may have picked up, but they did not.

Here's the interesting part. Now they're turning it into a slightly different kind of marketing strategy. One that incorporates other entities as well, which for Americans is a great strategy. It doesn't work like Japan here, and incorporating McDonalds and Starbucks like this is going to mutually benefit all sides. They specifically name dropped those two, which means they are in talks with them for joint marketing strategies. You may never hear anything from McDonalds or Starbucks but this name dropping guarantees they are working together for a mutual marketing strategy. Why so confident in that? Because those companies have the right to, and would gladly, sue Nintendo for using their names as promotional benefits. It falls under profiting from someone else's brand without giving royalties for it. So at this point it's pretty assured that there are multiple hands in the pot now.

A very nice strategy for all three of them really. Great way to draw in more customers on all sides.
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Post by: Mirby on June 17, 2013, 01:09:51 AM
I, for one, am excited for the StreetPass Relay system.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Reaperoid on June 18, 2013, 08:30:37 AM
Got the notification for update 6.0.0-12E today

StreetPass Plaza got a big update, complete with new bottom screen menu, and new options.
"Shop", "Exchange Corner" and "Check for Updates" are new, while a new "Play" icon sends you to a street where you walk your Mii past the different games, where there are four new games represented by rabbit holes: StreetPass Squad, Garden, Battle and Mansion.
They require a purchase, I think, since I go to the new Shop menu and they are listed there. But when I select one, it lugs about for a bit before Plaza crashes O:<
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Post by: Phi on June 18, 2013, 09:08:47 AM
I guess the US doesn't get this update?

Because I updated today as well, but it seems to have just added an option for "save-data backup" for downloadable applications... which actually might not be such a bad thing.

I'm assuming that means you can store your data from [SD card 1] and transfer it to [SD Card 2]. I actually have no idea though, just a guess :/
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Reaperoid on June 18, 2013, 09:34:35 AM
Looks like the US only got with save data backup feature with 6.0.0-11U. Perhaps because of the StreetPass relay?

Going back to the new StreetPass features, it seems that I just can't access the new games yet. They apparently open up a hidden listing on eShop (and actually work) for people in the EU, listing for GBP4.49 / EUR5 each or GBP13.49 / EUR15 for a bundle

---

They're apparently real games that use StreetPass as the main mechanic. Japanese trailer here (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/3ds/software/built-in/miiplaza/meikyu/index.html#id=movie006)

Developers:
StreetPass Squad: Good-Feel
StreetPass Garden: GREZZO
StreetPass Battle: Spike Chunsoft
StreetPass Mansion: PROPE
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on July 12, 2013, 02:27:16 AM
Streetpass Plaza got the update in the US today.

Hooray for NoA being far too late on this.

Anyway, the game names are these:

StreetPass Squad = Mii Force
StreetPass Garden = Flower Town
StreetPass Battle = Warrior's Way
StreetPass Mansion = Monster Manor

Naturally they cost money.

Just buy the bundle.

Anyway, the menu is pretty snazzy now, all updated and such.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Reaperoid on July 12, 2013, 08:56:38 AM
Yeah, just get the bundle. When the Plaza got its bug fix and I was finally able to get them, they were $6.50 AUD each, or $19.50 AUD for the bundle.

Ahaha, what the hell? They renamed them? That means all three regions have different names...

I love some of the new Outfits (used to be the Hats), like the Cowboy Hat. But my only problem is that StreetPass has kinda become a chore now, since I have six things to do with 10 Miis before I can accept the next lot. Considering I might be going to a convention sometime soon, my OCD doesn't want to trade off convenience for hauling through a level of StreetPass Squad which takes more time than the others to do.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on July 12, 2013, 09:04:55 AM
$16 for games I'll rarely be able to play unless I go to a convention/and or city? No thanks.

It's a shame too, because they seem fun. [tornado fang], why'd they have to be StreetPass games.

This isn't Japan.
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Post by: Reaperoid on July 12, 2013, 09:57:51 AM
I bet you Nintendo will never increase the Mii queue.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VirusChris on July 12, 2013, 11:11:57 AM
Didn't they mention they were going to add an update feature for the US 3DS where if people go to these "hot spots" their StreetPass data is saved there and it will increase the number of StreetPass for that person for the less populated sites. I don't know if it's online connected or increases the range of tagging someone, but Nintendo said they were looking into it.

Such a shame, the Mii Plaza games look like fun.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on July 12, 2013, 09:05:44 PM
$16 for games I'll rarely be able to play unless I go to a convention/and or city? No thanks.

It's a shame too, because they seem fun. [tornado fang], why'd they have to be StreetPass games.

This isn't Japan.

They're getting that Streetpass Cache thing going so it'll be more convenient.

But for you it still might not be feasible since they're probably only going to be at Starbucks and McDonalds.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on July 12, 2013, 09:58:51 PM
StreetPass Relay should be interesting.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on July 13, 2013, 10:45:45 AM
The new Mii Plaza games are pretty nice. Mii Force and Warrior's Way are my favorites!
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Fxeni on July 14, 2013, 03:24:23 AM
The new Mii Plaza games are pretty nice. Mii Force and Warrior's Way are my favorites!
Agreed, those are my favourite of the bunch. I like that I actually run into people with 3DS' that I can StreetPass with as well.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on July 14, 2013, 05:34:16 AM
They sound fun, but I'm hesitant to sink money into a pass-dependent game.  Especially when I live in a rural enough area that I rely mainly on Play Coins.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on July 14, 2013, 06:09:49 AM
Speaking of Spotpasses working at Walmart has its perks.

I got 6 streetpasses and more past that today.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Kieran on July 14, 2013, 03:01:40 PM
Random question--does the XL have the same unfortunate tendency as the original 3DS for the bottom screen's edges to scuff the top screen?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Reaperoid on July 14, 2013, 03:16:50 PM
No, it doesn't.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VirusChris on July 16, 2013, 10:24:05 AM
Though mine's has a problem a times with reading the SD card on it where my XL says there's no SD card. Takes a few times to turn off and on the XL until it finally reads the SD card.


Hmm... should I import a Japanese 3DS from Amazon Japan or Nippon-yasan if AmiAmi doesn't have any in stock at the moment or on back-order. There's some Japanese 3DS games I want to play but looks like there's no way for them to be localized at this point.

I hate region-locking, all because each region has a different game rating and Nintendo wants to keep in for paternal control. Common sense is why would a child by importing games from another country if they're under 18 years old if the parents is importing the game? The parent should do research first before they decide to import.

*Sigh* I hope there will be no more region-locking on future Nintendo handhelds.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on July 16, 2013, 11:55:54 PM
I hate region-locking, all because each region has a different game rating and Nintendo wants to keep in for paternal control. Common sense is why would a child by importing games from another country if they're under 18 years old if the parents is importing the game? The parent should do research first before they decide to import.
That's their PR excuse.  The real reason is that investors and other such corporate big-wigs are afraid of imports disrupting their regional businesses.  Complete bullshit seeings how the money still goes to their head office anyway, but businessmen scare easily like that.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VirusChris on July 17, 2013, 04:52:13 AM
That's their PR excuse.  The real reason is that investors and other such corporate big-wigs are afraid of imports disrupting their regional businesses.  Complete bullshit seeings how the money still goes to their head office anyway, but businessmen scare easily like that.

So stupid indeed... they're STILL getting money. But if Japan import games from Amercia it's cheaper for them than getting a game in Japanso they lose money that way but if it's a game that was released in Japan first and then localized in the West later.

Still region-locking is dumb.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on August 07, 2013, 06:24:08 PM
I guess there was a Direct today.

Highlights:

-Luigi for Smash to the surprise of nobody.
-Zelda: Link Between Worlds features a new link from Lttp, and there's a new other world that is new, not the old Dark World.
-LAYTON X WRIGHT CONFIRMED FOR US.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on August 07, 2013, 06:48:36 PM
-LAYTON X WRIGHT CONFIRMED FOR US.

jpdojxhozjdhfciflrjsflgpkdhe

There better be physical copies!
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on August 07, 2013, 08:17:02 PM
Another tidbit about A Link Between Worlds: I'm guessing it's about 6 generations after Link to the Past. There's an old man (presumably Sahasrahlah's descendant, judging by appearance) who says something along the lines of "In my grandfather's grandfather's grandfather's time..." when talking about the events of LttP. So, if the average age is say, 60, for all of them, that's... 360 years. Or maybe they're only 50, in which that would be 300 years.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on August 07, 2013, 08:56:18 PM
Going by the timeline would that put it after LttP or put it all the way at the end past Adventure of Link?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on August 07, 2013, 09:03:18 PM
going by the timeline... pretty sure that it would end up sometime after Link's Awakening, before the Golden Era.

which would make the decline timeline

LttP > Oracles > LA > ALBW > LoZ > AoL

cause the Golden Era and the Era of Decline that followed were quite some time in the future. Hundreds, if not thousands, of years. Obviously Hyrule hasn't begun to decline yet, and I doubt that the monarchs of Hyrule have begun to actively use the Triforce for their own means. We'll see though.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on August 13, 2013, 09:36:12 PM
There's a Dream Team demo on the eShop!
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 28, 2013, 05:51:17 PM
So Nintendo has announced the 2DS that is aimed at kids from 5 to 6 which is basically a 3DS with no 3D and is a huge slate instead of the clamp shell with a slider on the same side as the 3D slider but puts it in sleep mode instead.  It'll be released on October 12th to coincide with the release if Pokemon X and Y.

http://kotaku.com/introducing-the-nintendo-2ds-no-thats-not-a-typo-1214807721

I can kinda understand why they made this thing and even used the slate design over the clamp shell, but I kinda think they should have made the thing a little less thick.  Then again a lot of kid things are thick so what do I know.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on August 28, 2013, 06:18:00 PM
You can set parental controls on the 3DS to block the use of 3D.

The 2DS is a load of horseshit.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 28, 2013, 06:20:55 PM
That is true but I don't really hate it myself.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: N-Mario on August 28, 2013, 08:21:34 PM
Yea, it's a load of BS alright. Why get a 2DS if you already have the original 3DS, or the new 3DSXL? I think Nintendo is getting drunk or something. Or extremely late to the April Fools party charade. :P
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Kieran on August 28, 2013, 08:46:48 PM
Nintendo has explicitly stated it's not intended for people who already own a 3DS.  It's a budget model marketed toward the people who don't already have one and don't care about the 3D screen.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on August 28, 2013, 08:48:01 PM
I don't think you're supposed to get a 2DS if you already have those. It's meant as an alternative. Also good for those who have vision issues and can't actually see 3D.

That said, that thing is hideous. Blech.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 28, 2013, 08:57:45 PM
Yeah I do agree that I don't really like the design that much, I think it should be smaller if they were going for the slate thing.  And yeah no point in buying it if you have a 3DS in the first place of course, but for those who don't and don't need the 3D you might as well get the cheaper model.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on August 28, 2013, 08:59:45 PM
Can't say its the greatest idea.

Can't wait for confused parents wondering where all the 2DS games are.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on August 28, 2013, 09:00:18 PM
It's actually slightly smaller than the normal 3DS.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 28, 2013, 09:01:50 PM
It's actually slightly smaller than the normal 3DS.
I haven't found a size comparison thingy, and I can't look up the official site with an iPad, or at least the 2DS part.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on August 28, 2013, 09:05:33 PM
I'm waiting for one to load right now. I'll post images when I'm done.

Or you can check them out yourself (http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/53839/nintendo-2ds-hands-on-impressions-release-date-price/)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 28, 2013, 09:09:27 PM
Huh it actually looks better to me now.


Edit:Though the D pad and Circle pad should be lower.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on August 28, 2013, 09:13:42 PM
(http://medialib.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/screens/dir_603/image_60348_thumb_wide610.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 28, 2013, 09:15:08 PM
Yeah I think the buttons should have at least matched the 3DS's placement.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on August 28, 2013, 09:17:40 PM
Same. Though the lack of a hinge would make the shoulder buttons harder to reach, which is why they probably moved the buttons up.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 28, 2013, 09:29:18 PM
Yeah that might be it, let's just see what the targeted consumers think.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Satoryu on August 28, 2013, 09:40:19 PM
I do like that Start and Select are actual buttons, and the shoulder buttons are pretty big. But otherwise this thing is dumb.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on August 28, 2013, 09:48:40 PM
At first I couldn't figure out why it's not foldable. The only conclusion I could come up with is, if it indeed meant for kids 6 & younger, things that fold can break easier.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 28, 2013, 09:55:57 PM
Yeah considering the hinges of my DS Phat and DS Lite are broken I ran into the same conclusion and thought it would be good for all my little cousins.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Kieran on August 29, 2013, 12:52:46 AM
Agreed on that point.  The hinges on prior DS models are terrible and I'm not too sure how sturdy the 3DS's hinge is.  Especially in the hands of younger kids.  One of my nieces would probably snap a 3DS in half within five minutes.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: The Great Gonzo on August 29, 2013, 01:29:59 AM
Some decent arguments in favour of this. (http://thorjammer.tumblr.com/post/59618513730/jetgreguar-billeager-jamiekinosian-people) Admittedly I didn't see the point of the 2DS at first, but now I'm okay with it. There might be some problems with games where the 3D is integral to gameplay, though.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on August 29, 2013, 01:56:47 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/iPM2IFl.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/XHRvIBT.png)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on August 29, 2013, 02:01:18 AM
Actually the reason it doesn't fold is because it's one screen split in half by plastic. One touch screen, to be precise.

And there's a thick piece of plastic over the top half to prevent it from being touched.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Archer on August 29, 2013, 02:09:58 AM
There might be some problems with games where the 3D is integral to gameplay, though.

So in other words no problems.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on August 29, 2013, 03:44:37 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/iPM2IFl.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/XHRvIBT.png)

Hahaha
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on August 29, 2013, 03:53:32 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/fKureit.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 29, 2013, 04:20:47 AM
Unsurprisingly RANTalfloss hates it.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxNmobDPAsc[/youtube]
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Kieran on August 29, 2013, 05:49:58 AM
Oh boohoo, Nintendo's making a budget model of their insanely popular handheld that I'll never have to buy because the original and XL models are still widely available and won't be phased out by this.  Cry me a river.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 29, 2013, 05:51:51 AM
Oh boohoo, Nintendo's making a budget model of their insanely popular handheld that I'll never have to buy because the original and XL models are still widely available and won't be phased out by this.  Cry me a river.
That's pretty much me and my friends reactions to all the hate.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on August 29, 2013, 05:59:05 AM
Oh boohoo, Nintendo's making a budget model of their insanely popular handheld that I'll never have to buy because the original and XL models are still widely available and won't be phased out by this.  Cry me a river.

Sounds accurate.

I find it hilarious honestly.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 29, 2013, 06:00:29 AM
Sounds accurate.

I find it hilarious honestly.
I do too.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: ViperAcidZX on August 29, 2013, 06:16:26 AM
It looks like an over-glorified doorstop.
Just as the Xbox One to the paper weight.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on August 29, 2013, 06:30:42 AM
You know what it looks like?

A thin slice of cake.

Cake is nice.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on August 29, 2013, 08:55:35 AM
The only thing I would change is make it narrow near the bottom to make it easier to handle. Just because it's for someone who has the intelligence of a gorilla, doesn't mean their hands are that large.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v90/xnamkcor/3DS/i_40342edit.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 29, 2013, 04:28:12 PM
You know what it looks like?

A thin slice of cake.

Cake is nice.
It looks like cheese to me, which is sometimes tastier depending on the cake or cheese.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on August 29, 2013, 04:57:17 PM
Why not both? Cheesecake.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 29, 2013, 05:03:14 PM
Yes Cheesecake the ultimate good when done right!
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Kieran on August 29, 2013, 05:42:46 PM
The only thing I would change is make it narrow near the bottom to make it easier to handle. Just because it's for someone who has the intelligence of a gorilla, doesn't mean their hands are that large.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v90/xnamkcor/3DS/i_40342edit.jpg)

First of all, it's only a tiny bit wider than an original 3DS.  Secondly, the shoulder buttons are on the top--moving the face buttons, D-pad and analog slider down to the bottom screen as you have done makes it impossible to actually use the shoulder buttons.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on August 29, 2013, 05:51:14 PM
First of all, it's only a tiny bit wider than an original 3DS.  Secondly, the shoulder buttons are on the top--moving the face buttons, D-pad and analog slider down to the bottom screen as you have done makes it impossible to actually use the shoulder buttons.

Then we move the shoulder buttons.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Kieran on August 29, 2013, 05:54:37 PM
Which would make it thicker and more unwieldy by necessity.  You've also got the sides narrowed down to a seriously wrist-damaging angle.

Do you have an original 3DS?  Open it up and hold it as though the buttons were on the top half instead of the bottom.  Is it really that uncomfortable?  I don't know about you, but it still fits perfectly in my hands like that, and my hands are not very large.  In fact I think it'd actually be more comfortable that way.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on August 29, 2013, 07:48:21 PM
Which would make it thicker and more unwieldy by necessity.  You've also got the sides narrowed down to a seriously wrist-damaging angle.

Do you have an original 3DS?  Open it up and hold it as though the buttons were on the top half instead of the bottom.  Is it really that uncomfortable?  I don't know about you, but it still fits perfectly in my hands like that, and my hands are not very large.  In fact I think it'd actually be more comfortable that way.

Thicker is better for children, with their horrible mitten hands. Also, you don't have to hold it at the angle that it is.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Kieran on August 29, 2013, 08:10:51 PM
Then what, exactly, is even the point of changing its shape?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on August 29, 2013, 09:02:24 PM
The triangular shape allows force to be focused, therefore creating a more efficient use for energy when chopping wood.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Kieran on August 29, 2013, 09:51:09 PM
...Fair enough!
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on August 30, 2013, 04:15:13 AM
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/d4cb638ada34a228ea94bc70239f879d/tumblr_ms96siB2ok1s0eipbo1_400.gif)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Kieran on August 30, 2013, 04:18:27 AM
Yeah, but the 3DS is never going to retail for less than $170.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on August 30, 2013, 04:53:35 AM
And it has a hinge. Kids love breaking hinges. You know what they say. Once you give your 3DS to a child, it ends up in a wheelchair.

PS: Nintendo, please make a 3DS that has a larger battery, folds, and has a body like the 2DS.

PPS: I'm calling it now. They gimped the GPU/CPU because it doesn't have to do 3D and somewhere, down the line, a game won't work because a developer tried to program using the full power of the 3DS, in 2D mode.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Satoryu on August 30, 2013, 08:17:47 AM
Yeah, but the 3DS is never going to retail for less than $170.

I thought they were $150 now.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 30, 2013, 08:22:51 AM
For a brand new normal 3DS it's $170.00 XL is $200.00.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on August 30, 2013, 08:28:50 AM
That being said, they regularly go on sale.

Sometimes an XL will go for $180 so that's the best time to get those.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on August 31, 2013, 12:42:08 AM
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18ymrcl867wmypng/ku-xlarge.png)

Not gonna lie, I think that color scheme is sexy!  [eyebrow]
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on August 31, 2013, 12:51:13 AM
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18ymrcl867wmypng/ku-xlarge.png)

Not gonna lie, I think that color scheme is sexy!  [eyebrow]


Is that... Official? That's pretty smart of them to do the classic GB style.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on August 31, 2013, 07:11:19 AM
It's not, sadly. I wish it were though.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on September 04, 2013, 12:57:47 AM
I want one in SNES Grey with the Red/Yellow/Blue/Green colors.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VixyNyan on September 04, 2013, 01:48:13 AM
http://nintendo1ds.com/

(http://i.imgur.com/9PArABW.png) (http://nintendo1ds.com/)

This is too funny for words to express but I want this!
No matter how fake it is.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on September 06, 2013, 10:44:25 AM
If Nintendo's next system was a Version of the 3DS that had only one screen, Gamecube graphics, 1280(pb)x720, and two sticks(even if the right one was octagonal), I'd buy it.
Title: Link playable in Monster Hunter 4
Post by: Phi on September 09, 2013, 12:50:47 AM
If Nintendo's next system was a Version of the 3DS that had only one screen, Gamecube graphics, 1280(pb)x720, and two sticks(even if the right one was octagonal), I'd buy it.

3DS is already around Gamecube level. It further boasts advanced lighting and shader effects.

Posted on: September 06, 2013, 11:42:57 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiRJE1Q_gN8&feature=g-subs-u[/youtube]
Title: Re: Link playable in Monster Hunter 4
Post by: xnamkcor on September 10, 2013, 02:24:59 AM
3DS is already around Gamecube level. It further boasts advanced lighting and shader effects.

Posted on: September 06, 2013, 11:42:57 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiRJE1Q_gN8&feature=g-subs-u[/youtube]

400x240 is not equal to Gamecube. I'm talking about actual Gamecube power, not "it kinda looks like it might have been a launch title on Gamecube if the Gamecube has the resolution of an old DOS game".
Title: Re: Link playable in Monster Hunter 4
Post by: Phi on September 14, 2013, 02:11:16 AM
400x240 is not equal to Gamecube. I'm talking about actual Gamecube power, not "it kinda looks like it might have been a launch title on Gamecube if the Gamecube has the resolution of an old DOS game".

By that logic, the 3DS would have the power of a PlayStation 3 or Xbox 360 system, if it had an HD screen.
Title: Re: Link playable in Monster Hunter 4
Post by: xnamkcor on September 15, 2013, 07:52:38 AM
By that logic, the 3DS would have the power of a PlayStation 3 or Xbox 360 system, if it had an HD screen.

By that logic, Santa Claus is a champion chess player.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on September 15, 2013, 04:30:01 PM
You said it, not me.

Screen resolution is an asinine way to gauge performance seeings how it is one aspect of many, and it completely ignores what is being rendered on said screen.  Model detail, shader quality, number of objects, etc.

FYI, the total number of pixels the 3DS displays is only 1/8 less than that of a single 640x480 TV screen, and the top screen is at most times being rendered from two separate angles.  A split-screen GCN game that looks as good as a decent 3DS game is pretty few and far between.  I mean, there's Rebel Strike, and...what else?
(God, I miss Factor5...)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on September 15, 2013, 05:54:23 PM
Would it be too off-topic to mention that PS3 and Xbox can barely render a game at full HD resolution? If at all? Also, if the 3DS had the power of a Gamecube, then all the games would probably run at 60FPS.

FYI, the total number of pixels the 3DS displays is only 1/8 less than that of a single 640x480 TV screen, and the top screen is at most times being rendered from two separate angles.  A split-screen GCN game that looks as good as a decent 3DS game is pretty few and far between.  I mean, there's Rebel Strike, and...what else?
(God, I miss Factor5...)

192000/307200 is 0.625, not 0.875. And often times the resources are the same, not unique. Like, textures, music, sound effects, geometry, animations can all be stored in RAM and executed the same. There doesn't have to be two copies of everything in the process for stereoscopy to be used.
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Post by: Hypershell on September 16, 2013, 01:48:29 AM
Same resource logic applies to two players in the same setting.

And you're 76800 pixels short.
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Post by: xnamkcor on September 16, 2013, 05:10:57 PM
Same resource logic applies to two players in the same setting.

And you're 76800 pixels short.

Are you counting the second screen?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on September 16, 2013, 06:20:44 PM
I have yet to see the non-homebrew DS/3DS game that operates with the second screen off.  It's certainly possible, mind you, but the official devs frown on the idea.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on September 16, 2013, 07:14:11 PM
You mean Nintendo frowns on it? I have no doubt that, if they had permission, and a dev felt they could make a game that only used the top screen, they would. Though, if they really wanted to, they could probably just send an image to the second screen and then never update it and that might use near-zero resources. Assuming the second screen could hold an image without constant updates to the video signal. And how often is the second screen actually rendering something complicated?

"3DS is as powerful as the Gamecube because it has to render a second screen", just sounds like excuses. I have yet to see a 640x480 game on the 3DS or that uses both screens to render something on par with the Gamecube's graphics, at the same time. From what I've seen the second screen is usually rendering something the Gameboy Advance or N64/DS would render, not something the 3DS is "capable" of.

Keep the second screen for Backwards(maybe Digital downloads for DS and 3DS?), make the main screen 2560x720(1280 "per eye") or 1280x720(640 "per eye", make it powerful enough to render things on the main screen on par with the Gamecube with those extra shaders you love so much.

PS: I'd rather have a system that had real power than one that was "better because it has bloom and blur".
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on September 16, 2013, 07:29:15 PM
The top and bottom screens also operate off of different processors remember. You can't just magically combine their powers to create a super handheld.

Also speaking as a dev, there are limits to what you can't do on a Nintendo console. Simply ignoring their gimmick is going to fail your certification, which means you can't publish your game. You have to use it for something. For example, on the Wii you were REQUIRED to incorporate your main gameplay with at least some motion bullshit. Also, interestingly, you could NOT use the Mii as the playable character. Of course, Nintendo never stuck to it's own rules always, but forced everyone else to them. Conversely the original DS had the stipulation that you must use it for at least an in game menu.

There is a catch though. The download titles were so few and far between that Nintendo dropped their requirements almost completely for them. They were so hard up for digital games on the Wii they were taking just about anything they could get. However their policies were very unfavorable for any developer, and thus not many games made it on there.

Just some inside info from your resident developer. Hope that sheds a little light on some things.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on September 17, 2013, 03:45:54 AM
You mean Nintendo frowns on it? I have no doubt that, if they had permission, and a dev felt they could make a game that only used the top screen, they would. Though, if they really wanted to, they could probably just send an image to the second screen and then never update it and that might use near-zero resources. Assuming the second screen could hold an image without constant updates to the video signal. And how often is the second screen actually rendering something complicated?

"3DS is as powerful as the Gamecube because it has to render a second screen", just sounds like excuses. I have yet to see a 640x480 game on the 3DS or that uses both screens to render something on par with the Gamecube's graphics, at the same time. From what I've seen the second screen is usually rendering something the Gameboy Advance or N64/DS would render, not something the 3DS is "capable" of.

Keep the second screen for Backwards(maybe Digital downloads for DS and 3DS?), make the main screen 2560x720(1280 "per eye") or 1280x720(640 "per eye", make it powerful enough to render things on the main screen on par with the Gamecube with those extra shaders you love so much.

PS: I'd rather have a system that had real power than one that was "better because it has bloom and blur".
1200 wide (600 "per eye) would maintain the proper aspect ratio.

You're the one who brought up number of pixels as the sole crutch of the argument.  All I did was point out how senseless that was.  If you want to argue model quality or any more "meaningful" performance issue, be my guest.  I'd love to see some actual specs on the 3DS seeings how they're so freaking hard to come by.  Or you can just nitpick the visibly evident shortcuts in modeling that everyone takes when they work on handhelds anyway (God knows I've ripped into MHX on the PSP often enough on those grounds).

Huh, now I'm actually curious to know what technical flaws/shortcuts one could dig out of Monster Hunter Tri Ultimate...
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Post by: xnamkcor on September 17, 2013, 05:03:23 AM
1200 wide (600 "per eye) would maintain the proper aspect ratio.

You're the one who brought up number of pixels as the sole crutch of the argument.  All I did was point out how senseless that was.  If you want to argue model quality or any more "meaningful" performance issue, be my guest.  I'd love to see some actual specs on the 3DS seeings how they're so freaking hard to come by.  Or you can just nitpick the visibly evident shortcuts in modeling that everyone takes when they work on handhelds anyway (God knows I've ripped into MHX on the PSP often enough on those grounds).

Huh, now I'm actually curious to know what technical flaws/shortcuts one could dig out of Monster Hunter Tri Ultimate...

At 400x240, the 3DS will never render something as well as the Gamecube. The models can be as great as they want, but when you only have 400x240 to work with, it's gonna end up looking bad compared to the Gamecube.

"Sole crutch of the argument."
Cool strawman.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on September 18, 2013, 01:45:44 AM
I trust you'll forgive my half-assed proofreading since I consider this discussion pretty pointless to begin with (I get bored, sue me).  Anyways, you just brought the discussion full circle.  Your position, as you just reiterated it, assumes that GCN is limited only by its display resolution and ignores all other factors.

Also, for what it's worth, IMHO holding ANY manner of aesthetic GCN supremacy depends on having a progressive scan output, something that actual GCN hardware can make difficult given the availability of the appropriate ports/cables.  Interlaced GCN games look pretty bad.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on September 18, 2013, 03:18:44 AM
Why would a portable console have Interlaced video?
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Post by: Hypershell on September 21, 2013, 07:32:15 AM
I guess I assumed it was a given that most GCNs are not portable... ~w~
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on September 22, 2013, 05:00:45 PM
We're talking about a powrtable device with the power of a Gamecube. Why would they put an interlaced device on a portable device?
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Post by: Hypershell on September 23, 2013, 02:23:01 AM
You're the only one talking about an interlaced handheld.  I was talking about how Gamecube's aesthetic differs depending on its hardware setup.  I'm speaking mainly of aesthetics rather than tech specs because of the lack of available specs on the 3DS.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on September 24, 2013, 06:24:51 PM
We're talking about a portable device with the power of a Gamecube. Why would a portable device have interlacing?
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Post by: Phi on September 25, 2013, 07:14:35 AM
That's quite enough, you two. This argument is going nowhere.
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Post by: Hypershell on September 30, 2013, 03:15:59 AM
Clearly.



So, if anyone wonders about the whole "handhelds are all the rage in Japan over consoles" thing, the 3DS's Japanese sales just overtook Wii's lifetime Japanese sales (http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/09/25/lifetime-3ds-sales-are-higher-than-the-wii-in-japan).  Damn.
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Post by: VixyNyan on October 01, 2013, 08:18:12 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOA5lmWaIuY[/youtube]

Yay~ ~w~
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Post by: Police Girl on October 02, 2013, 06:45:49 AM
It just looks like Return to Dreamland graphically.

Which is pretty cool since that was a Wii game and all. Looks like fun.
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Post by: Sakura Leic on October 02, 2013, 06:54:06 AM
I kind of found the choice of instruments in the trailer a little obnoxious, or at least them being used all at once.  Still I'm glad we finally have Kirby game to look forward to for the 3DS.
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Post by: VirusChris on November 01, 2013, 05:30:02 AM
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/10/31/nintendo-terminates-swapnote-service-3ds/


Well this sucks... >>;
It was fun while it lasted.
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Post by: Phi on November 01, 2013, 05:48:53 AM
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This was probably the worst way to handle the situation, Nintendo.
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Post by: Quickman on November 01, 2013, 05:49:27 AM
Dead before I could use it! D:

*cries in a corner*
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Post by: Police Girl on November 01, 2013, 09:47:53 AM
Oh golly gee little billy saw a wee-wee that his friend charles whom he added to his 3DS friend list via filthyboard.com that I as a parent allow my little slugger to peruse, via the nintendo swapnote thingy! This is clearly the fault of Nintendo and not at all the fault of my perfect parenting!

Seriously nintendo, the [tornado fang]? this is basically punishing everybody for a few people acting [tornado fang]ing retarded. Last I checked that's kinda unfair.
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Post by: Kieran on November 01, 2013, 12:26:09 PM
Nintendo discovers the internet, panics.  Film at 11.
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Post by: Hypershell on November 02, 2013, 04:27:01 AM
Meanwhile children who want to send pictures of their own dick to each other will continue to do so on cell phones. -AC

I know that Nintendo tends to panic easily since they come under heavier soccer-mom-fire than either Sony or Microsoft, but really, this is completely pointless.
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Post by: xnamkcor on November 02, 2013, 07:07:38 AM
Nintendo should allow adults to use Swapnote. As an adult it's my right to send pictures of [ray splasher]sto children.
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Post by: Police Girl on November 02, 2013, 07:35:56 AM
And as an adult its my right to use a service responsibly with a few friends.

I like how they decided to stop doing special notes like the ones sent by Nintendo themselves as well. Pretty much shows how they're never bringing this back.

Also I guess Flipnote 3D had the same thing befall it, but since we didn't get that in the US (And probably never will now) that doesn't really affect us.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: VirusChris on November 06, 2013, 06:26:00 PM
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/11/05/report-child-predators-used-nintendo-3ds-swapnote-service-japan/

More details to why SwapNote was canned.

This is why we can't have nice things, damn predators... >_<
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on November 06, 2013, 06:49:17 PM
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/11/05/report-child-predators-used-nintendo-3ds-swapnote-service-japan/

More details to why SwapNote was canned.

This is why we can't have nice things, damn predators... >_<

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LZLe_C7O_s[/youtube]
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Post by: Hypershell on November 09, 2013, 12:44:15 AM
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/11/05/report-child-predators-used-nintendo-3ds-swapnote-service-japan/

More details to why SwapNote was canned.

This is why we can't have nice things, damn predators... >_<
I'm curious what form of communication was used to exchange a 12-digit code that could not possibly have been used to arrange a meeting place in and of itself.
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Post by: xnamkcor on November 09, 2013, 02:02:42 AM
I'm curious what form of communication was used to exchange a 12-digit code that could not possibly have been used to arrange a meeting place in and of itself.

Fake Hello Kitty ads with a QR code?
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Post by: Protoman Blues on November 13, 2013, 07:08:44 PM
Just gonna quote everything from GoNintendo about today's Nintendo Direct

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REDMOND, Wash.--(BUSINESS WIRE)-- A December system update for the Nintendo 3DS portable system will allow users to combine their Nintendo eShop account balance for both Nintendo 3DS and Wii U. Nintendo announced the news during a Nintendo Direct video released earlier today.

After the Nintendo 3DS system update, users can register their Nintendo Network ID for Wii U on their Nintendo 3DS systems and combine Nintendo eShop account balances. This will enable them to purchase Wii U software using the remaining balance on their Nintendo 3DS eShop accounts, and vice versa. Nintendo 3DS owners who do not own a Wii U system can also create their own Nintendo Network ID for the first time.

This system update will also mark the beginning of Miiverse support on Nintendo 3DS. With a Nintendo Network ID and a wireless Internet connection, users will be able to connect with players around the world to share their experiences and game tips through Miiverse on Nintendo 3DS. For more information and notices from Nintendo about the system update, visit http://www.nintendo.com/3ds/nnid.

To view the Nintendo Direct in its entirety, visit http://www.nintendo.com/nintendo-direct. An overview of the news discussed includes:

Nintendo 3DS News

YouTube will be launching this month for Nintendo 3DS. Nintendo 3DS owners with a broadband Internet connection will be able to watch all their favorite YouTube content on the go, browsing on the bottom screen while viewing on the top screen.

The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds

Today, Nintendo showed a new trailer for the game, and the first of four 15-second mini-trailers for The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds debuted on Nintendo’s Instagram page. Nintendo detailed a number of characters, including Irene and her magic broom; Seres, who is trapped in a painting; and Gramps, who can help facilitate battles with other players encountered via StreetPass. Also: Milk Bar confirmed!

On Nov. 22, a new Nintendo 3DS XL bundle will launch at a suggested retail price of $219.99 that includes Nintendo 3DS XL hardware with gorgeous gold-and-black coloring and the iconic Triforce on the exterior, as well as a download code for The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds. The game launches in stores and in the Nintendo eShop on Nov. 22 at a suggested retail price of $39.99.

Exclusive SpotPass Content at Nintendo Zone Locations: Anyone with a Nintendo 3DS who visits a Nintendo Zone location can receive StreetPass Mii Plaza data from the last six players to visit that location. Exclusive SpotPass content will be available at Nintendo Zone locations in November for Nintendo 3DS owners who also own the following games, including:
An Animal Crossing: New Leaf raccoon wall clock is available until Nov. 14.
An Animal Crossing: New Leaf cat tower available Nov. 15-28.
An Animal Crossing: New Leaf rolling suitcase available Nov. 29-Dec. 12.
A Super Mario 3D Land Mystery Box starting Nov. 22.

Mario Party: Island Tour: The game offers seven new game boards and 80 new mini-games, including some that use the motion controls of Nintendo 3DS, and the ability for four Nintendo 3DS owners to play all multiplayer game content with only one copy of the game via Download Play. The single player Bowser’s Tower has players playing through 30 floors of mini-games, with a boss battle every fifth floor. Additionally, players also can engage with other players who also have the game in StreetPass mini-game competitions. The game launches in stores and in the Nintendo eShop on Nov. 22 at a suggested retail price of $39.99.

The new Kirby game for Nintendo 3DS has a name: Kirby: Triple Deluxe. More information about the game will be announced in the future.

Bravely Default: A Collector’s Edition of the game will be available exclusively at select retailers. The bundle includes the game, an art book, a soundtrack CD and 34 augmented-reality cards. The Collector’s Edition and standard version of the game both launch on Feb. 7.

Professor Layton and the Azran Legacy: The final game in the second Professor Layton trilogy launches in stores and in the Nintendo eShop on Feb. 28.
Wii U News

Super Mario 3D World: Nintendo announced new information about Super Mario 3D World, including the ability to play as Rosalina from Super Mario Galaxy, a Luigi Bros. bonus game that is more easily accessed for players who have New Super Luigi U save data on their systems and Captain Toad levels, which challenge players to collect five stars without jumping.

Pikmin 3 Downloadable Content: On Dec. 2, a third round of new Mission Mode stages is on the way that challenges players to lead their Pikmin efficiently to complete as many tasks as possible within the time limit. The eight new stages that will be available for purchase include four “Collect Treasure” stages and four “Battle Enemies” stages with locations as varied as beaches, the inside of someone’s house during a party, a construction site and a mysterious factory. In one stage players can control Captain Olimar, the main character from Pikmin and Pikmin 2. Louie even makes an appearance. The third round of Pikmin 3 Mission Mode downloadable stages will be available in the Nintendo eShop for $4.99. A software update is required to play the new stages. People who update their software will receive one “Collect Treasures” stage and one “Battle Enemies” stage for free.

Animal Crossing Plaza: The Wii U gathering place for Animal Crossing fans is being upgraded with two new features:

After users perform a software update, they can customize their Miiverse posts using 50 different Animal Crossing stamps. Users can combine multiple stamps or add hand-drawn messages to decorate posts they have already stamped. They can even partially erase a stamp and redraw it any way they like.

Nintendo is also adding a ranking feature to display the results of monthly polls. November’s question is “Who would make the best secretary?” and December’s theme will be “Who is the neighbor of the year?”

Additional features, including the ability to register and interact with your town residents, are also being added.

YouTube Application Update: After users perform a software update, they will be able to use the YouTube application to watch videos on the GamePad controller or search for YouTube content while another video is playing on the TV.

Wii Fit U: A free trial of the game is available in the Nintendo eShop now through Jan. 31. Wii U owners with a Wii Balance Board accessory and a broadband Internet connection can download the trial and play it for free for 31 days. Users can make the trial permanent by buying and syncing a Fit Meter to the software. Fit Meter accessories are available at a suggested retail price of $19.99. The full Wii Fit U game launches in stores on Jan. 10, just in time to help people fulfill their fitness-related New Year’s resolutions.

Remember that Wii U and Nintendo 3DS feature parental controls that let adults manage the content their children can access. For more information about this and other features, visit http://www.nintendo.com/wiiu or http://www.nintendo.com/3ds.

Verrrrrrrry happy about the combined eShop thing. About time! XD

3DS Miiverse...now I can be reminded that I cannot [tornado fang]ing draw on the road!  8)
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Post by: Mirby on November 13, 2013, 07:17:56 PM
February 7th cannot come soon enough.

Also [tornado fang] yeah on the Miiverse. This should also mean we'll be able to take screens of 3DS games in a way similar to how we can on Wii U (pause game, home menu, miiverse, add image to post).
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Post by: Police Girl on November 13, 2013, 07:21:50 PM
Unfortunately the Combined eShop doesn't seem to merge purchases according to that.
Would be nice to get NES games on my 3DS that I bought on the Wii U and Vice-versa.
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Post by: Protoman Blues on November 13, 2013, 07:29:43 PM
Speaking of eShop, they will soon be hosting Weekly Character Deal. (http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=216904)
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Post by: Mirby on November 13, 2013, 07:32:41 PM
Unfortunately the Combined eShop doesn't seem to merge purchases according to that.
Would be nice to get NES games on my 3DS that I bought on the Wii U and Vice-versa.
Or let us play our 3DS games on the Wii U, like transmit the video to the system. That would be nifty.
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Post by: Protoman Blues on November 13, 2013, 07:43:45 PM
(http://s15.postimg.org/qmqazmvef/Reggie.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/qmqazmvef/)

I thought I'd mention it in here as well...I REALLY WANT THAT LINK PIN!!!!  8)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on November 13, 2013, 07:45:27 PM
The pin looks nice, though I'm more interested in that statue. owo
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on November 13, 2013, 08:02:24 PM
Well yes, I'd like the statue as well. Haha, the pin is more realistic!  8)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on November 14, 2013, 06:36:14 AM
Or let us play our 3DS games on the Wii U, like transmit the video to the system. That would be nifty.

Haha yeah like that 1DS prank thing.

That'd be cool, but knowing Nintendo that's not in the cards.
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Post by: Hypershell on November 15, 2013, 03:11:15 AM
The pin looks nice, though I'm more interested in that statue. owo
Ditto.  Twilight Princess is my favorite Zelda, and my wife is a big fan of horses.  It would be the PERFECT excuse for me to get some nerdy memorabilia on display outside of the usual mancave (read: basement).
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Post by: Phi on November 15, 2013, 03:21:45 AM
Europe got a Bravely Default eShop demo.

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on November 15, 2013, 04:45:22 AM
Ditto.  Twilight Princess is my favorite Zelda, and my wife is a big fan of horses.  It would be the PERFECT excuse for me to get some nerdy memorabilia on display outside of the usual mancave (read: basement).

I'd need the whole set. That statue, the Midna/Wolf Link statue, and the Ganondorf statue
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Post by: Police Girl on November 15, 2013, 09:29:55 AM
Kirby 3DS already has a site up in Japan.

The game's coming out January 11th there, so they must be pretty close to done already. (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/3ds/balj/index.html)

And it seems we can't blame an Angry Kirby on the boxart on the US this time.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Fxeni on December 05, 2013, 06:30:28 AM
This is a pretty interesting read (http://www.siliconera.com/2013/12/03/emulating-megadrive-3ds-isnt-easy-enter-3d-sonic-hedgehog/). It gives some insight into the challenge of bringing games over to the 3DS.
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Post by: Reaperoid on December 05, 2013, 07:04:31 AM
Yeah, I saw that. I read the Space Harrier article (http://blogs.sega.com/2013/11/25/sega-3d-classics-space-harrier-3d-interview-with-developer-m2/) aswell.

Speaking of, the amount of detail they went into for these 3D releases is amazing. I was reading a review of 3D Super Hang-On, they even put in gyro controls where you can see the arcade cab tilt on the screen.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on December 05, 2013, 04:13:58 PM
This is a pretty interesting read (http://www.siliconera.com/2013/12/03/emulating-megadrive-3ds-isnt-easy-enter-3d-sonic-hedgehog/). It gives some insight into the challenge of bringing games over to the 3DS.

It's slightly amusing to see Yosuke Okunari represented as "YO".  So I'd read a sentence like, "YO, it's their layout" as opposed to "YO: It's their layout" XD

Also, I really want that "Sonic Death" shirt. 8D

But, about the article, that was a really interesting read. You'd think it'd be easy to emulate, given the 3DS' power.
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Post by: Hypershell on December 07, 2013, 01:04:00 AM
I wouldn't believe for one second that they couldn't get the game running, but I guess it all depends on what level of emulation quality they consider acceptable.  There was a Genesis compilation on the regular DS, after all.
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Post by: Police Girl on December 09, 2013, 10:01:06 PM
3DS Miiverse update is probably coming today as the eShop is down for maintenance.

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Post by: xnamkcor on December 09, 2013, 11:12:55 PM
I wouldn't believe for one second that they couldn't get the game running, but I guess it all depends on what level of emulation quality they consider acceptable.  There was a Genesis compilation on the regular DS, after all.

It's all about emulating the water. Probably.
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Post by: Police Girl on December 10, 2013, 05:42:17 AM
Update is live.

Here's the list of changes including the big ones which are NNID/Miiverse integration and eShop balance merging.

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    Added Support for Nintendo Network IDs:

            Users can now create or link a Nintendo Network ID, which is required to use some network services, from within System Settings
            Nintendo eShop has been updated to support Nintendo Network IDs (*1)
            For more information regarding Nintendo Network IDs, please visit our Nintendo Network ID introduction page

    Added Support for Miiverse:

            Users can now view and post to Miiverse from Nintendo 3DS family systems
            For more information regarding Miiverse, please visit our Miiverse introduction page

    Added a Software Update Notification:

            A notification will now display when software is started and update data is available (*2)

    Removed the limit to system transfers:

            The previous limit of five system transfers per system has been removed

    Changed the start-up method of Nintendo 3DS Camera from the HOME Menu:

            Pressing the L and R Buttons simultaneously will now start the Nintendo 3DS Camera from the HOME Menu

    Improved system stability and usability:

            Further improvements to overall system stability and other minor adjustments have been made to enhance the user experience

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Post by: Mirby on January 02, 2014, 08:37:32 PM
I also like that you need to hit L+R to use the camera from the HOME menu. much lower chance of accidentally starting it up by bumping L or R.

Posted on: December 10, 2013, 01:01:26 AM
Yo, the Bravely Default demo's up on the NA eShop right now. It's fantastic.
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Post by: Phi on January 02, 2014, 08:43:49 PM
[parasitic bomb], I almost forgot about that. Thanks for the reminder.
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Post by: Mirby on January 02, 2014, 08:47:54 PM
No problem. A word of advice though: Don't wander off too far until you've leveled up a bit. I found a dungeon to the south of the starting area and was nearly wiped out.
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Post by: Sakura Leic on January 03, 2014, 03:33:32 AM
Well I played a bit of it and I like it, though it is a bit challenging at times though I am playing at Normal difficulty.  Also Charm sucks so much and I kind of don't like how time only passes in the village when you do projects when the game is on, especially when I have to get rid of a rock that takes 10 hours.  I hope I can get some Street Passes next week.
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Post by: Mirby on January 03, 2014, 09:44:02 AM
I'm leaving that 10 hour rock for when I sleep lol
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Post by: Sakura Leic on January 03, 2014, 09:46:19 AM
That is genius.
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Post by: Mirby on January 03, 2014, 09:48:30 AM
Also not sure if you're aware of this but the more you restore Norende Village, the more items you can buy from the Adventurer you find in dungeons.
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Post by: Sakura Leic on January 03, 2014, 09:49:26 AM
No I was aware of that, it's kind of obvious.
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Post by: Mirby on January 03, 2014, 09:50:39 AM
Well I'm kinda dense sometimes. Still pretty cool.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on January 03, 2014, 03:02:18 PM
The thing I hate about the demo is that there are 30 [tornado fang]ing USES. It promises "hours of content not found in the full game", and then they limit you on the times you can play it?

I mean, I know all the other 3DS demos have use limits, as well, but for this one in particular, it's really inconvenient.
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Post by: xnamkcor on January 03, 2014, 04:57:21 PM
The thing I hate about the demo is that there are 30 [tornado fang]ing USES. It promises "hours of content not found in the full game", and then they limit you on the times you can play it?

I mean, I know all the other 3DS demos have use limits, as well, but for this one in particular, it's really inconvenient.

Is it timed? Can you just leave it running?
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Post by: Phi on January 03, 2014, 05:01:20 PM
Well, no. It's not timed.

However, whenever I want to play another game, I'd have to exit the demo, which wastes a use.
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Post by: xnamkcor on January 03, 2014, 05:09:18 PM
Well, no. It's not timed.

However, whenever I want to play another game, I'd have to exit the demo, which wastes a use.

Then don't play other games? Back in my day there were times when we left the SNES on for at least a day because there was no save point in a dungeon. Sure, we could turn it off and play another game, but then you'd never finish the dungeon. That, or wait until the weekend and hope our parents didn't have a penchant for your presence that weekend.
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Post by: Police Girl on January 03, 2014, 05:26:06 PM
This game made me realize there was a limit to how many games can utilize streetpass.

I'm amazed, why would there need to be a [tornado fang]ing limit? Is there a technical reason or not?
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Post by: Hypershell on January 03, 2014, 07:13:01 PM
Memory is never infinite, is the only thing that comes to mind...  Time is also of the essence in the case of Street Pass.
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Post by: Phi on January 03, 2014, 07:39:19 PM
Then don't play other games? Back in my day there were times when we left the SNES on for at least a day because there was no save point in a dungeon. Sure, we could turn it off and play another game, but then you'd never finish the dungeon. That, or wait until the weekend and hope our parents didn't have a penchant for your presence that weekend.

That doesn't change the fact that it's a large inconvenience.

It's stupid to put every single other game on hold for a demo. A restriction of this level makes no sense.

Especially for something like this, which you're expected to invest a lot of time in. I'm not going to keep my 3DS in Sleep Mode for several weeks.
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Post by: xnamkcor on January 03, 2014, 09:00:17 PM
That doesn't change the fact that it's a large inconvenience.

It's stupid to put every single other game on hold for a demo. A restriction of this level makes no sense.

Especially for something like this, which you're expected to invest a lot of time in. I'm not going to keep my 3DS in Sleep Mode for several weeks.

It's a demo. If you don't want to be inconvenienced, buy the game.
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Post by: Sakura Leic on January 03, 2014, 09:02:27 PM
It's a demo. If you don't want to be inconvenienced, buy the game.
First you can't right now and second the thing is a side story of the game not just a demo.  You can't get this in the game.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdGtuzqAzt4[/youtube]

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Post by: Mirby on January 03, 2014, 09:48:19 PM
Honestly I don't mind keeping it running. I have other games to play on other systems if I want to, and I'm also on the net a lot. But yeah, limiting the uses is kinda dumb.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: xnamkcor on January 04, 2014, 02:02:35 AM
First you can't right now and second the thing is a side story of the game not just a demo.  You can't get this in the game.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdGtuzqAzt4[/youtube]



I guess you might want to put more effort into not wasting your playtime, then.
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Post by: Hypershell on January 04, 2014, 02:36:50 AM
If the demo content is exclusive, then it is senseless to limit it, especially by number of startups.

They're taking the standard demo treatment and blindly applying it where it is not called for.  It's negligence, plain and simple.
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Post by: Kieran on January 04, 2014, 02:37:15 PM
Nintendo, being negligent with their online distribution?!  Perish the thought.
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Post by: Phi on January 24, 2014, 10:20:53 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwUOoXX5fDY#t=117[/youtube]

Yet another brown shooter game, but at least it does a good job of showing what the 3DS is capable of.
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Post by: Sakura Leic on January 25, 2014, 09:39:11 PM
I finished the Bravely Default Demo and got all the item packs.  Overall I liked it and I want to play the full version.  I also wanted to note a few things, though I'm not sure if this would change when the full version is released. 

If you can for any fighter, especially a mage character, Master Performer to max, for the love of god.  It's final ability is amazing.

Jump saves your ass during boss battles and it's really powerful too, especially with the Performer's final ability.

I recommend that any warrior should master the Red Mage class to max for the sake of tough random battles. 

Dual Wielding isn't as broken as other games but it's okay and still is pretty helpful in random battles.  Two handed actually seems more useful in boss battles.   

For a Mage I recommend mastering both White and Black Magic for their abilities, they both are pretty good.

That's all I got for now. 
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Post by: xnamkcor on January 25, 2014, 09:42:41 PM
I finished the Bravely Default Demo and got all the item packs.  Overall I liked it and I want to play the full version.  I also wanted to note a few things, though I'm not sure if this would change when the full version is released. 

If you can for any fighter, especially a mage character, Master Performer to max, for the love of god.  It's final ability is amazing.

Jump saves your ass during boss battles and it's really powerful too, especially with the Performer's final ability.

I recommend that any warrior should master the Red Mage class to max for the sake of tough random battles. 

Dual Wielding isn't as broken as other games but it's okay and still is pretty helpful in random battles.  Two handed actually seems more useful in boss battles.   

For a Mage I recommend mastering both White and Black Magic for their abilities, they both are pretty good.

That's all I got for now. 

By "broken", do you mean it's overpowered? And by "other games" do you mean Soma Body? Or other games?
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Post by: Sakura Leic on January 25, 2014, 09:47:01 PM
By "broken", do you mean it's overpowered? And by "other games" do you mean Soma Body? Or other games?
Yes I meant over powered and I meant old school Final Fantasy games, like 1-6.  After this game was made by Square and might as well be a love letter to Final Fantasy 1, 3, and 5.
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Post by: Mirby on January 26, 2014, 01:28:03 AM
Well considering demo max job level is 4 and full game max job level is 11, I'm guessing the final ability for Performer in the demo isn't actually the final ability.
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Post by: xnamkcor on January 26, 2014, 01:33:04 AM
Yes I meant over powered and I meant old school Final Fantasy games, like 1-6.  After this game was made by Square and might as well be a love letter to Final Fantasy 1, 3, and 5.

Oh yeah, I always found myself just equipping two swords instead of using a shield in 2 and 3. I forget if 1 had dual wielding weapons. Same thing with SotN. I usually had a short sword and a dagger/fist for strong/quick.

PS: This is a sequel or spiritual successor to a love letter to FF I-V. Look up Soma Body. Hopefully it's more like III than V. I hate active battle systems in non-action RPGs. I love Secret of Mana, and Grandia, but if time flows freely, [sonic slicer], I ain't got time for no menus.
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Post by: Sakura Leic on January 26, 2014, 02:06:44 AM
Well considering demo max job level is 4 and full game max job level is 11, I'm guessing the final ability for Performer in the demo isn't actually the final ability.
Yeah you got a point, which is good because I was sort of disappointed with the Ninja and Swordmaster job class.  Well just get Performer up to the point you get Buff Up.
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Post by: Mirby on January 26, 2014, 02:19:12 AM
From what I've heard, Ninja and Swordmaster are so much better later on.

Also, there's the fact that there's a lot more jobs than just those shown in the demo, so yeah.
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Post by: Police Girl on February 13, 2014, 11:11:29 PM
Nintendo Direct is on.

Kirby Triple Deluxe comes on May 2nd.

Yoshi's New Island is being shown as well, looks better than first impressions and has some new stuff as well. March 14th, so pretty soon.

Its now completely [tornado fang]ing unwatchable because they keep [tornado fang]ing buffering.

Some Mario Golf stuff shown off, I'm curious if the Castle Club mode is like an RPG style thing or if its not. Its already not as good as the GBC game because of no original characters instead relying on Miis, but its also May 2nd.

Steel Diver is getting a Free-To-Play version as it was rumored long ago. Still doesn't look very fun. Its out today.

Some Baseball game thing with lots of DLC stuff, the DLC can have its price lowered through the game by haggling. I think this was something rumored too, coming in April.

Another Pokemon Trozei. This was popular enough for a sequel? Oh what am I kidding its [tornado fang]ing pokemon. March 20th.

Holy [tornado fang] they're bringing Inazuma Eleven to the US after so [tornado fang]ing long, amazing. Out today as well, I take it Digital-Only.
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Post by: Mirby on February 14, 2014, 04:52:31 AM
It looks like the Castle Club is likely an RPG mode.

And they said that Inazuma Eleven was digital-only haha
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Post by: Police Girl on February 14, 2014, 07:41:59 AM
Well I figured as much since it'd be pretty hard to get a physical game out immediately after a Web stream.
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Post by: Hypershell on February 14, 2014, 01:25:54 PM
Its now completely [tornado fang]ing unwatchable because they keep [tornado fang]ing buffering.
Oh, good, I thought that was just me... O:<

I like the metal eggs and jackhammer shown in Yoshi's New Island.  Still not too keen on the visual style but it's not a deal-breaker.  What honestly bothers me more, presentation-wise, is that any music heard thus far has been slow, subdued, and lacking in energy.  Even if you ARE actively directing the game to the younger side of the audience, that doesn't mean you have to make it into a frikkin' lullaby.

I've never played a touch-screen golf game before so I'm not really sure what to think of the new Mario Golf game.  Video game golf is one of those things were traditional buttons seem to serve the best purpose; if you're concerned about how realistic it is then it's not THAT hard to just go play a real round of golf.  >.>
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Post by: Rin on April 10, 2014, 10:26:14 PM
Soup, /rpm/.
What's your opinion on 2DS, and what does it lack aside from the 3D and the fact that it's huge instead of portable?
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Post by: Sakura Leic on April 10, 2014, 10:34:02 PM
Soup, /rpm/.
What's your opinion on 2DS, and what does it lack aside from the 3D and the fact that it's huge instead of portable?
As in you're thinking of buying one?  Other than what was mentioned above it's not really lacking anything else.  It's also not that big, it's actually smaller than the original 3DS unfolded but of course you can't fit it in your pocket.  I'm quite fine with the concept of course since I have the original 3DS, with the ambassador program no less, there's no reason I would buy one but if something were to happen to my 3DS I might consider it since I don't use the 3D or play games that heavily rely on it.
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Post by: Rin on April 10, 2014, 10:36:56 PM
Yeah. I'm considering to buy it.
And thanks for your reply, it's good to know that it doesn't lack anything aside from 3D... and portability isn't really a problem since I have no plans to ever take it out of the house if I do buy one.
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Post by: Police Girl on April 10, 2014, 10:38:34 PM
From my understanding, its exactly the same save for having only a mono speaker (that sounds like ass, headphones are a must.) and Sleep Mode is enabled through a button rather than just closing it.

It'll still play all the same games so its still a fine system, but most people still recommend the XL because its probably easier on the hands. Though the different design of the 2DS might make it easier to hold too, I don't know.

Anyhow, this was announced for release in the US today.
Tomodachi Life Direct 4.10.14 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcmx4kC0tiU#ws)

For anybody that doesn't know, this is something that's been out in Japan for a while now and them bringing it out is pretty big.
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Post by: Sakura Leic on April 10, 2014, 10:40:54 PM
Yeah. I'm considering to buy it.
And thanks for your reply, it's good to know that it doesn't lack anything aside from 3D... and portability isn't really a problem since I have no plans to ever take it out of the house if I do buy one.
It's also more durable since it doesn't rely on the clam shell folding like the other systems.  It has the same battery life as the original 3DS but the XL has bigger battery life, but that shouldn't be a problem since you don't game on the go. 
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Post by: Mirby on April 10, 2014, 10:55:14 PM
Yeah, I was quite surprised to hear of Tomodachi's localization. I mean I expected it but not quite this soon.
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Post by: Sakura Leic on April 10, 2014, 10:56:29 PM
Tomodachi Life Direct 4.10.14 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcmx4kC0tiU#ws)
What did I just watch?
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Post by: Police Girl on April 10, 2014, 10:58:39 PM
Its been around a year, that is relatively fast.

Considering they kind of cut down the really Japanese stuff, had to get their voice synthesizer thing to do english (and other languages for the European audience.), and some other technical stuff I take it.
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Post by: Phi on April 10, 2014, 10:58:59 PM
Yeah. I'm considering to buy it.
And thanks for your reply, it's good to know that it doesn't lack anything aside from 3D... and portability isn't really a problem since I have no plans to ever take it out of the house if I do buy one.

What do you have against the 3DS?
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Post by: Police Girl on April 10, 2014, 11:14:19 PM
It might be a cost thing.
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Post by: Mirby on April 11, 2014, 02:50:37 AM
Okay so just watched that Tomodachi Life Direct and that was actually pretty funny haha
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Post by: Rin on April 11, 2014, 04:13:35 AM
It might be a cost thing.
Yes.

But alas... my monitor seems to be dying, so I'll be getting myself a new and better one probably.
So no 2DS/3DS for me.
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Post by: Kit on April 15, 2014, 12:39:06 AM
What did I just watch?

the best direct to the best game of forever
I am SO HYPED for this game
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Post by: Police Girl on April 15, 2014, 01:38:16 AM
the best direct to the best game of forever
I am SO HYPED for this game

You are a good person.
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Post by: Sakura Leic on April 15, 2014, 01:39:30 AM
I might get it...Though Smash and Bravely Default before it.....
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Post by: Protoman Blues on April 15, 2014, 01:41:04 AM
I'll probably pick that up. It looks silly! XD
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Post by: Police Girl on April 15, 2014, 01:41:33 AM
I might get it...Though Smash and Bravely Default before it.....
Smash probably isn't coming till the end of Summer most likely. Since they didn't say June I'd expect August because NoA has it in their mind that nobody buys games in July.

So you have time to save.
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Post by: Sakura Leic on April 15, 2014, 01:48:54 AM
I would probably get it for Christmas, you have to remember I don't put my games in one basket until Christmas.  Things like Smash, Pokemon and Animal Crossing are exceptions.
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Post by: Sakura Leic on August 29, 2014, 02:01:40 PM
Well we got some new 3DS models coming out that will be compatible with the Amiibo and a nub above the buttons to control the camera it seems and ZR and ZL buttons like the Wii U.  Somethings have been switched around, there's micro SD support, stuff has been improved, they have switchable covers and to top it all off Xenoblabe Chronicles is being ported to the 3DS.

http://www.technobuffalo.com/2014/08/29/new-nintendo-3ds-xl-announced-in-japan/ (http://www.technobuffalo.com/2014/08/29/new-nintendo-3ds-xl-announced-in-japan/)

I know a certain LPer who's going to go insane over that last part.....
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Post by: OBJECTION MAN on August 29, 2014, 06:10:13 PM
As long as they can get the capture device working with it, I'll be considering it. I wanted to upgrade for a while now, just haven't been able to afford it yet. Perhaps soon...

My gorilla hands cannot handle the original model. I really want to play that Kingdom Hearts game but my hands will cramp to [parasitic bomb] within minutes of playing that.
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Post by: Amatiramisu on August 29, 2014, 08:27:23 PM
I hope they allow for some sort of trade-in discount or something. I just got my XL in November but the new model is REALLY appealing.
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Post by: ViperAcidZX on August 29, 2014, 08:57:13 PM
I'm looking forward to getting my hands on this. I'm diggin' having all these features (like using Amiibo figurines without a separate communicator and the built-in C-Stick) being on one system plus the better 3D screens and faster CPU. I'm hoping for an early 2015 release window in the U.S..

I hope they allow for some sort of trade-in discount or something. I just got my XL in November but the new model is REALLY appealing.
Let's hope so. My brother is gonna be mad when finds out about this hot off the press.
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Post by: Protoman Blues on August 29, 2014, 10:32:40 PM
Well I'll definitely be looking into it! XD
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Post by: Sakura Leic on August 29, 2014, 10:36:28 PM
Yeah I think I will too when the time comes.
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Post by: Mirby on August 29, 2014, 10:42:00 PM
My 3DS has been taking Sleep Mode to mean "Time to turn off" Mode as of late so I need to replace it anyways. I'll just snag the New 3DS when it releases.
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Post by: Sakura Leic on August 29, 2014, 10:44:07 PM
Wow that's sounds awful, is it the orignal?
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Post by: Quickman on August 29, 2014, 10:45:47 PM
I want to look into this new one, but mine is still good.  Still working on convincing Ringman to get a 2DS because it'd be cheaper, and we love us some cheap.  He's considering it, though he might not be up for getting this new one.
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Post by: Sakura Leic on August 29, 2014, 10:47:07 PM
How many games do you have,  or do you still have only Pokemon X.
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Post by: Mirby on August 29, 2014, 10:59:47 PM
Wow that's sounds awful, is it the orignal?
Yeah it is. Flame Red too, which I think has been discontinued. I can't trade it in though cause it's autographed by Reggie and I ain't givin' that up.
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Post by: Sakura Leic on August 29, 2014, 11:03:08 PM
Mine doesn't have problems, except maybe taking a little while to turn on, and I know for sure mine is older.  Have you tried changing battery, you'd be surprised at what changing the battery can do.
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Post by: Mirby on August 29, 2014, 11:14:16 PM
I would but that involves buying a new battery haha
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Post by: Sakura Leic on August 29, 2014, 11:21:39 PM
Seems you can get a battery on Amazon for the small 3DS for as cheap as $2.50 plus $5 shipping and whatever tax is added.  So that's something at least.
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Post by: Quickman on August 29, 2014, 11:35:29 PM
How many games do you have,  or do you still have only Pokemon X.

Aside from SpotPass stuff, I only have X.  Been looking at other games, though, just haven't bought any, yet.  I was thinking of getting some puzzle games.
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Post by: Protoman Blues on August 29, 2014, 11:38:38 PM
You should look on the eShop sometime. A lot of great options there!
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Post by: Sakura Leic on August 29, 2014, 11:40:01 PM
Hmm if that's the case maybe you can look at the Wayforward stuff like Mighty Switch Force! in the eShop.   I'm not sure about puzzle games other than the Professor Layton series, I think there's one for the 3DS at least, or coming out besides the Phoenix Vs Layton game.
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Post by: Quickman on August 29, 2014, 11:44:33 PM
I had considered Professor Layton, and we are playing it on an emulator, but we're not liking it a whole lot.  The plot is taking a backseat to the puzzles, which have now become a real chore.  Some of them are so damn obtuse that they're infuriating and lack creativity, with any clues for them being pretty much arbitrary as the actual solution just comes right the [tornado fang] out of how damn obtuse they are (I'm looking at you, stupid texting chocolate puzzle).

I want to progress the story, but you can't take a [acid burst] behind a tree without having to solve a puzzle.

So, yeah, while I love me a good puzzle game, Layton unfortunately isn't it.  It's a shame, as I really wanted to like the game.

I was also going to look into some more visual novels and some JRPGs, and perhaps grab one of the Mystery Dungeon games.
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Post by: ViperAcidZX on August 29, 2014, 11:47:54 PM
There's always Ace Attorney and good ol' Tetris.

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If you don't mind your JRPG with some complexity, I also recommend The World Ends with You. The Izuna series are also worth looking into for dungeon-crawlers.
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Post by: Sakura Leic on August 29, 2014, 11:48:22 PM
I highly recommend Bravely Default for a JRPG, and if you do get the new 3DS Xenoblade Chronicles is a must for a JRPG.
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Post by: Quickman on August 29, 2014, 11:51:55 PM
There's always Ace Attorney and good ol' Tetris.

Already played two Ace Attorney games on an emulator, but I have no problem with buying and playing them again.  Hell, I was considering playing the first cases of the first game since I have it on my iPad and haven't yet bought the later chapters. 8D

I'll check out Bravely Default, though.  Next week I'm going into town to get cat food, so I'll see if Target has it.  I know Gettysburg has at least the latest Mystery Dungeon game for cheap, so I may grab it next time I'm in town.

If the eShop has Bejeweled, I am totally getting it.

QuickEdit: Got TWEWY on an emulator. 
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: ViperAcidZX on August 29, 2014, 11:54:57 PM
If the eShop has Bejeweled, I am totally getting it.
It has Bejeweled Twist for $4.99.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Quickman on August 29, 2014, 11:56:45 PM
AWWWWWWW YISS

Time to invest in another time sink!
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on August 30, 2014, 12:11:29 AM
No one mentioned Kid Icarus: Uprising? For shame!

Totally get that game, and hopefully your hands won't cramp up due to the stylus-heavy gameplay.

Oh, and get SHOVEL KNIGHT!!
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 30, 2014, 12:12:14 AM
Well she mentioned puzzles and RPGs not Starfox shooters.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on August 30, 2014, 12:15:30 AM
Okay well, do you rike platformers, Quickie?

Because Shovel Knight is sex.
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Post by: Sakura Leic on August 30, 2014, 12:18:03 AM
Yeah Shovel Knight is probably one of the best games you can have if you like Megaman and Duck Tales.
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Post by: Mirby on August 30, 2014, 12:24:10 AM
Shovel Knight is glorious.
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Post by: Quickman on August 30, 2014, 12:41:06 AM
I like StarFox shooters, too.  Must have StarFox 64...

Ringman wants Shovel Knight oh so badly, so there's another reason for him to get a 2DS.
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Post by: ViperAcidZX on August 30, 2014, 12:43:05 AM
There's also Azure Striker Gunvolt since that just came out today.
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Post by: Sakura Leic on August 30, 2014, 12:44:04 AM
Kid Icarus is also part hack and slash, or something like that.  The point is that it's unique and a good game once you get used to the controls and I still need to get it myself.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Quickman on August 30, 2014, 12:48:42 AM
If it's anything like Space Harrier or Yoshi's Safari, I'm all for it.  I love mindless rail shooters.
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Post by: Sakura Leic on August 30, 2014, 12:51:41 AM
Half of it is Rail Shooter for the first part levels and the other half of levels is the hack and slash or whatever.
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Post by: Quickman on August 30, 2014, 12:58:04 AM
I may check it out, then.  Seems right up my alley.

Oh, and any good mindless side-scrolling beat-em-ups?  I've already played the hell out of TMNT Arcade, Turtles in Time, and Streets of Rage 2.
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Post by: ViperAcidZX on August 30, 2014, 01:07:12 AM
There's Code of Princess, Boobie Ninjas Senran Kagura Burst, 3D Streets of Rage 1, and River City Ransom for brawlers that I can think of.

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Also this game: [link] (http://www.siliconera.com/2013/07/25/earth-defense-force-isnt-the-only-game-where-you-fight-giant-bugs/)
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Post by: Quickman on August 30, 2014, 01:08:53 AM
I might pick up Code of Birthing Hips Princess if I see it when I'm in town next.
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Post by: Hypershell on August 30, 2014, 07:24:24 AM
As far as the "hack-and-slash" goes, Code of Princess was my favorite.  Great music, funny dialogue, easy to control.

Yes, Kid Icarus is the best thing ever.  Buy it.

Dunno how you feel about turn-based games but the 3DS is certainly not lacking for them.  I loved Project X Zone, and Fire Emblem Awakening is the best damn game in the series (to be fair, they had me at "your avatar can shack up with a grown Tiki", but the game really is awesome).
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 30, 2014, 07:27:09 AM
Those 2 are tactics RPGs rather than straight Turn based.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on August 31, 2014, 05:23:34 PM
That's why I didn't say "RPG", I was trying not to reference a specific genre.  Otherwise we get people bitching about tactical RPGs that aren't tactical enough.  >.>
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 31, 2014, 07:19:11 PM
That's why I didn't say "RPG", I was trying not to reference a specific genre.  Otherwise we get people bitching about tactical RPGs that aren't tactical enough.  >.>
But both are turn based which makes it confusing.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on September 08, 2014, 10:13:49 PM
To the surprise of no one the New 3DS will be region locked, which really still doesn't bother me.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on September 09, 2014, 12:31:07 AM
Honestly, after the DS, PSP, and PS3 was region free it really pisses me off.

I imported a [parasitic bomb] load of DS and PSP games. Not so much with the PS3 since everything I know of that I wanted came out here.
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Post by: Sakura Leic on September 09, 2014, 12:43:36 AM
I never really had anything Japan exclusive that I wanted, especially since I never got into Ace Attorney.  Is there any Japanese exclusive 3DS games that you wanted?
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Post by: OBJECTION MAN on September 09, 2014, 01:42:13 AM
I'm a huge brawler fan so I wanted to try Senran Kagura, and of course if I liked it, it's sequels. It has 2 I think. I know the first one is out here but I'm not out of budget lockdown so I haven't gotten it yet, or know anyone who has to try it.

If Legends 3 came out I would have likely imported that to play early too. Perhaps Smash 3DS too.

Beyond that there is:
E.X. Troopers
One Piece Unlimited Cruise SP (and there's also a SP2 I think?)

So about 5 potentials there. I'm sure there will be many more not making the oceanic jump too.

If it wasn't for region free I wouldn't have been able to buy Jump Super Stars and Jump Ultimate Stars. I'm sure they've got a 3DS sequel in the works, whether they've announced it yet or not.

Bleach DS 1&2 were really great too. They didn't come out in the US for a LONG time after their initial release.
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Post by: Quickman on September 09, 2014, 05:04:55 AM
I saw my first DS Lite last Saturday.  It had dead pixels on the bottom screen, no stylus, and the hinges were extremely loose.  Though, I will say one thing about it...

Its bottom screen was more touch-responsive.  I could use my fingers on it without a problem.  The 3DS touch screen isn't as responsive and sometimes it won't even register my stylus.  Has anyone else noticed this?  Was it because that DS Lite was old and the touch screen becomes more responsive with age?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on September 09, 2014, 05:23:12 AM
My 3DS is super responsive; as are all my DS systems.

Did you try calibrating the touch screen in system settings?
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Post by: Protoman Blues on September 09, 2014, 05:34:15 AM
Perhaps try reversing the polarity?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on September 09, 2014, 05:38:20 AM
Perhaps try reversing the polarity?
What? o-O
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on September 09, 2014, 05:39:42 AM
Doctor Who joke!  8)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on September 09, 2014, 05:40:15 AM
I should have known. -AC
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Quickman on September 09, 2014, 05:52:52 AM
I'll mess with the settings, then.  Haven't done so, yet.  Didn't know that there were settings for the touch screen.
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Post by: Police Girl on September 09, 2014, 07:15:56 PM
As I mentioned in my post in the thinking thread:

(http://i.imgur.com/6UlLOKv.jpg)

I can smack it or hold the upper left corner to get the backlight to turn back on again but its frustrating to have this break on me.
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Post by: Sakura Leic on September 09, 2014, 08:37:18 PM
I hope it can last until the New 3ds comes out.
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Post by: Police Girl on September 09, 2014, 08:55:16 PM
Curiously enough, its stopped doing that since we got out of Glacier.

I'm still getting a New 3DS when it comes out though. Especially if mine's getting ready to kick the bucket.
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Post by: Sakura Leic on September 09, 2014, 08:57:43 PM
Glad I haven't really had problems with mine besides maybe a lag when I turn it on, then I can dump it on my big brother.
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Post by: Quickman on September 09, 2014, 09:10:13 PM
What is the average lifespan of a 3DS?  I'm hoping to have mine live longer than that.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on September 09, 2014, 09:11:54 PM
However long some kid doesn't drop it and break it?  I don't know, I just know it's much more durable than the DS Lite. 
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Post by: Quickman on September 09, 2014, 10:00:57 PM
I think I'm good there, then.  I'm pretty protective of it.
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Post by: Phi on September 09, 2014, 10:18:05 PM
Even if someone drops it, the 3DS would remain operable. Have you not heard of the almighty Nintendium? Look it up.

Drop it from your window, and it will still work like a charm.
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Post by: Sakura Leic on September 09, 2014, 10:23:10 PM
The DS Lite was not made of Nintendium, this one might be but the clamp still presents the vulnerablity of something happening to it.  I think what I meant to say is if a kid throws it.
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Post by: Quickman on September 09, 2014, 10:38:10 PM
Well, I've seen a DS Lite that's been surviving a seven-year-old, so that must count for something.  The worst that's happened to it is that it's missing its stylus, the hinge is loose, and the bottom screen has a patch of dead pixels.

I handle my 3DS with kid gloves, so it should last me.
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Post by: Police Girl on September 09, 2014, 11:45:47 PM
3DS is not made of Nintendium.

I'm very careful with mine and the screen's doing strange crap (Not the first time its happened) and its got a crack on the upper clamshell by the 3D slider.
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Post by: Sakura Leic on September 09, 2014, 11:47:51 PM
The very upper part of my 3DS was scratched by my keys.
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Post by: Quickman on September 09, 2014, 11:49:32 PM
I should take some canned air and blast mine clean.  I clean the screens regularly, but it could use a dusting.
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Post by: Phi on September 10, 2014, 12:32:46 AM
3DS is not made of Nintendium.

I'm very careful with mine and the screen's doing strange crap (Not the first time its happened) and its got a crack on the upper clamshell by the 3D slider.

Perhaps you have a defective model.

I've dropped my launch 3DS several times, and it works perfectly. The worst it's ever been is when the L or R button stops working, briefly. But, the same thing happened with all my handheld Nintendo systems, and I doubt it's from dropping it.
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Post by: Fxeni on September 10, 2014, 02:09:03 AM
My A, B and L buttons don't work too well anymore on mine. I'll probably spring for one of those newer models.
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Post by: Phi on September 10, 2014, 02:13:13 AM
Hmm, I'm not sure why you're having that problem. Perhaps the later 3DS models are made from cheaper materials or something.

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Post by: Police Girl on September 10, 2014, 02:43:33 AM
I got mine before the pricedrop. (The day before it was official at least, i still got it for the reduced price.)
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Post by: Fxeni on September 10, 2014, 03:33:42 AM
Mine's an earlier model as well.
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Post by: Phi on September 10, 2014, 03:44:02 AM
Then I'm not sure what's going on. My systems have never messed up that badly.
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Post by: Amatiramisu on September 10, 2014, 04:08:26 AM
3DS is not made of Nintendium.

The XL certainly is.
Title: Nintendo releasing NES-style 3DS XL
Post by: Phi on September 11, 2014, 05:21:58 AM
However... it's GameStop-exclusive (http://kotaku.com/source-nintendo-releasing-gamestop-only-nes-version-of-1632999308?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Twitter&utm_source=Kotaku_Twitter&utm_medium=Socialflow)

(http://i.imgur.com/Z72WbAo.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/waBc2xk.png)

HHNNNNNGGGGGGGGG
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Post by: Protoman Blues on September 11, 2014, 05:26:18 AM
Pretty, but little point with the New 3DS on its way!
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Post by: Sakura Leic on September 11, 2014, 05:28:58 AM
Agreed.
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Post by: Phi on September 11, 2014, 05:30:17 AM
I thought the New 3DS wasn't coming to the states for a while?
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Post by: Sakura Leic on September 11, 2014, 05:31:14 AM
Yeah next year, so you might as well wait.
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Post by: Protoman Blues on September 11, 2014, 05:32:03 AM
Probably not, but it doesn't matter. We know it's coming, so buying a system before that one comes out is kinda pointless.

Especially considering that the New 3DS might very well have a classic NES controller face plate.
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Post by: Phi on September 11, 2014, 05:37:49 AM
True enough. I have the Zelda-edition XL, so I wouldn't need this one, anyway.

But, there are those who like to collect limited edition systems/consoles; this NES version is likely even more "limited", since only GameStop will supply it.
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Post by: ViperAcidZX on September 11, 2014, 06:00:40 AM
Even if someone drops it, the 3DS would remain operable. Have you not heard of the almighty Nintendium? Look it up.

Drop it from your window, and it will still work like a charm.
Dropping a 3DS from window? I doubt it, but the purple lunchbox that could laughs in the face of danger.

However... it's GameStop-exclusive (http://kotaku.com/source-nintendo-releasing-gamestop-only-nes-version-of-1632999308?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Twitter&utm_source=Kotaku_Twitter&utm_medium=Socialflow)

(http://i.imgur.com/Z72WbAo.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/waBc2xk.png)

HHNNNNNGGGGGGGGG
I guess they didn't memo that New 3DS is already going SNES. At least there's the menu themes.
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Post by: Sakura Leic on September 11, 2014, 06:07:00 AM
.....It's going Famicon.......
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Post by: Nexus on September 11, 2014, 06:13:12 AM
It's actually a little fitting. The current 3DS models would be the 'first', succeeded by the New 3DS models - so going NES/Famicom to SNES/Super Famicom makes sense. No point in getting the older 3DS models besides price range once the New 3DS is globally released (if it ever is), though, besides collector's sake.
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Post by: Reaperoid on September 11, 2014, 09:53:17 AM
One Piece Unlimited Cruise SP (and there's also a SP2 I think?)

I'm sure there will be many more not making the oceanic jump too.
All of the Unlimited Cruise games have Europe releases, and no US release
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Post by: ViperAcidZX on September 11, 2014, 11:10:12 PM
.....It's going Famicon.......
Does it really matter? (Yes, I was being lazy when made that post.) Plus what if the New 3DS gets the color scheme of the American SNES if it comes to other regions? Although that doesn't seem very likely.
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Post by: OBJECTION MAN on September 12, 2014, 03:36:09 AM
All of the Unlimited Cruise games have Europe releases, and no US release

Exactly the problem. They're there, and in English, but I can't have them.
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Post by: Police Girl on September 12, 2014, 04:27:43 AM
The New XL doesn't get faceplates I thought?

Also, the NES one is lazy as [tornado fang], should've taken after the GBA SP more on that.

The Persona Q one looks nice though. Too bad I'm not [tornado fang]ing buying one till the New one comes out!
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Post by: Sakura Leic on September 12, 2014, 04:30:30 AM
Yeah the XL doesn't have the faceplates.
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Post by: Reaperoid on September 12, 2014, 10:16:06 AM
Exactly the problem. They're there, and in English, but I can't have them.
Ah, I misunderstood you saying "oceanic" then. Thought you meant Japan-only release by that. Oops.
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Post by: Hypershell on September 13, 2014, 05:56:54 AM
Yeah the XL doesn't have the faceplates.
That REALLY bummed me out once I took notice.  I might have finally bought an XL-sized system otherwise, but...I kinda want faceplates, and even the standard New 3DS is supposed to have slightly bigger screens than the original 3DS.
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Post by: Police Girl on September 13, 2014, 08:27:50 AM
Found out the issue with my 3DS.

The flex cables that hook the top LCD to the motherboard on the bottom must've gotten loose or worn out.

I'll just have to open it up when I get home to see if I can fix it.
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Post by: Sakura Leic on September 13, 2014, 08:31:09 AM
I deleted enough data I don't use on the 3DS so I can download the Pokemon OR/AS Demo when that comes out, seriously the left over Nintendo Video data was way too much.
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Post by: Protoman Blues on September 29, 2014, 03:14:50 PM
Newニンテンドー3DS TVCM2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MpQSvaduzk#ws)

There is nothing about this commercial that isn't amazing! I LOVE TOP HAT TOON LINK. Hipster Bowser is hilarious as well!!!  8)
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Post by: Sakura Leic on September 29, 2014, 04:16:18 PM
It sure as heck was surreal, then again what Japanese commercial isn't.
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Post by: Mirby on September 29, 2014, 11:33:38 PM
To quote a friend, that is the most obstinately kawaii thing I've ever seen.
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Post by: Arikado on September 30, 2014, 12:38:02 AM
If only Top Hat Toon Link was an alt costume...
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Post by: ViperAcidZX on September 30, 2014, 02:05:36 AM
I'd pay good money for top hat Toon Link as a costume.
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Post by: Police Girl on October 07, 2014, 02:45:04 AM
New firmware today.

Themes! Hooray! We get 5 off the bat (They're all just generic colors though)!

The UI's also been redone. Its more in line with the Wii U's now, its faster as well.
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Post by: Mirby on October 07, 2014, 02:58:47 AM
No ALBW theme?

Sadface.
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Post by: Police Girl on October 07, 2014, 02:59:20 AM
Its there.

You just have to buy it.

5 Right off the bat means pre-installed ones.

Themed ones cost $1.99. Generic ones cost $.99.

I can't wait till people figure out how to make custom themes.
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Post by: Mirby on October 07, 2014, 03:01:09 AM
Oh that's what you meant.

Good thing I have $10 in credit from the Deluxe Digital Promotion.
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Post by: Sakura Leic on October 07, 2014, 03:34:32 AM
I'll wait until new themes come before I buy one, for now I'm rocking the Red one.
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Post by: Protoman Blues on October 07, 2014, 03:44:42 AM
Yeaaaaaaah, I'm loving the Zelda 3DS theme
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Post by: Phi on October 07, 2014, 04:15:37 AM
I bought the Zelda theme and Hanafuda theme. Loving both of them, especially Zelda's!

I hope Nintendo allows third parties to create their own 3DS themes. A Monster Hunter or Resident Evil theme would be very sweet!
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Post by: Protoman Blues on October 07, 2014, 04:28:03 AM
I'm hoping for a MegaMan theme
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Post by: ViperAcidZX on October 07, 2014, 05:09:21 AM
There are some Azure Striker Gunvolt themes I've seen on Siliconera that looked pretty neat. I'll have a hard picking between Lumen and Gunvolt's themes if I can only afford one.
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Post by: Police Girl on October 07, 2014, 05:11:06 AM
I'm hoping for custom themes, or at least that they'll be easy for people to make.

Because chances are:

A) If they release a Megaman theme, lol 8-bit with MM2 music.

B) Third party stuff will be extremely limited to begin with if it happens, and chances are it'll be more limited outside of Japan because that's just what always happens.

C) There's probably not going to be much selection otherwise if they don't regularly update the theme shop.
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Post by: Protoman Blues on October 07, 2014, 05:17:29 AM
8-Bit MegaMan is what I want!  8D
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Post by: Phi on October 07, 2014, 05:33:33 AM
I've had enough of 8-bit, but if that's the only theme available for the Blue Bomber, I might as well just get it.
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Post by: Sakura Leic on October 07, 2014, 05:34:45 AM
I'll take 8-bit over the MM7 sprite.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on October 07, 2014, 05:37:04 AM
I think I said this in another thread, but it's really a damn shame that the Battle Network series is kaput. That series was before its time. Imagine what they could've done with the 3DS, Streetpasses, and better online capabilities.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on October 07, 2014, 05:48:45 AM
I'll take 8-bit over the MM7 sprite.

Those sprites were glorious. I'll take ANYTHING over more [tornado fang]ing 8-bit.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on October 07, 2014, 06:16:04 AM
Those sprites were glorious. I'll take ANYTHING over more [tornado fang]ing 8-bit.
It was [tornado fang]ing huge, MM8 had the best balance.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on October 07, 2014, 06:18:35 AM
16-bit Blues was awesome!
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on October 10, 2014, 06:38:38 PM
It was [tornado fang]ing huge, MM8 had the best balance.

I have to agree. MM8 had a really nice screen to character ratio. The game just looked great. I would have been down with MM9/MM10 using that art style.

Just leave the anime scenes and voice work at home. :P
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on October 10, 2014, 06:43:19 PM
Oh come on you know Dr. Thomas Elmer Fudd Light was the best thing in that game. 8D  Could have done without Megaman screaming like a [sonic slicer] for 2 minutes though. :\
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Blue Valkyrie on October 10, 2014, 08:48:09 PM
I like the look of the MM8 sprites but the animations always felt kinda...rubbery?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on October 10, 2014, 08:59:17 PM
Yeah they did look kind of weird.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on October 10, 2014, 09:22:21 PM
[MH4G]『メトロイド』コラボ紹介映像 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F6Lq2Hxs7M#ws)

my poor wallet
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on October 25, 2014, 01:33:03 AM
ゼルダの伝説 スカイウォードソード 迫りくるたたかい [ニンテンドー3DS テーマ] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo1ohB63uOQ#ws)

Nice!
Title: Boy, that moon has a huge [tornado fang]ing nose.
Post by: Police Girl on November 05, 2014, 11:01:46 PM
GUYS ITS HAPPENING.

MOONS AND TERRIBLE FATES.

MAJORA'S MASK 3D HOLY [parasitic bomb].
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on November 05, 2014, 11:34:22 PM
[tornado fang]ing YES!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: ViperAcidZX on November 05, 2014, 11:37:03 PM
*vibrates excitedly*
Title: Re: Boy, that moon has a huge [tornado fang]ing nose.
Post by: Sakura Leic on November 06, 2014, 12:04:38 AM
GUYS ITS HAPPENING.

MOONS AND TERRIBLE FATES.

MAJORA'S MASK 3D HOLY [parasitic bomb].
Holy [parasitic bomb] the moon nose is huge, as are the eye indentations. They really upped the creepy there.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on November 06, 2014, 12:15:44 AM
Creepy? It just looks really goofy now personally.

The creepiness of the N64 games mostly came out of the jagged and strange graphics. When they made them all smooth and nice for the 3DS version it sort of dampened the creepiness. Even the Great Fairies aren't as creepy looking anymore.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on November 06, 2014, 03:30:29 AM
I honestly never found the moon scary or creepy at all. It looked pretty dumb to me.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on November 06, 2014, 04:16:47 AM
"Scary" is a bit too strong of a word since it implies one is taking a moon with a face seriously.  Creepy, I'll go with.

3D Fierce Deity is all that matters.  I'll be buying that game when it's out, for sure.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on November 06, 2014, 04:20:05 AM
Yeah definitely not scary, Marx from Kirby I think is scary, but creepy.  Also I think Mr. Moon lost some weight.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on November 06, 2014, 04:23:11 AM
I will say, they certainly made Codename S.T.E.A.M look much more interesting than it first appeared to be.

Steampunk Lincoln.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on November 06, 2014, 04:30:06 AM
I will say, they certainly made Codename S.T.E.A.M look much more interesting than it first appeared to be.

Steampunk Lincoln.

The trailer was confusing. I couldn't even tell what type of genre it was. Real-time strategy? Turn based?

I don't even
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Mirby on November 06, 2014, 06:51:35 AM
It's turn-based strategy. Just not top-down like most if Intelligent Systems's games like Fire Emblem and Advance Wars. I think the viewpoint reminiscent of a third person shooter is quite interesting to use for a turn-based strategy game.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Fxeni on November 06, 2014, 11:47:27 AM
Made me think of Valkyria Chronicles, to be honest.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on November 18, 2014, 10:39:39 AM
Homebrew's coming.

They're releasing it this week. You'll need the game Cubic Ninja to access it though.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on January 22, 2015, 02:31:24 AM
Who wants a Monster Hunter 4 demo code?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on January 25, 2015, 03:21:24 PM
If not already claimed, sure.  I don't expect my budget to allow getting that one at launch.

Since this is the actual 3DS thread, it looks like Best Buy took too many Majora's Mask New 3DS XL pre-orders (even after cancelling multiples to the same household).  Whoever they had to cancel beyond that (myself included) got a $50 off promo code to keep them from looking elsewhere take the sting off of trading down to one of the regular colors.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 06, 2015, 04:09:12 PM
So Europe is getting these glorious bundles.

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2015/05/three_new_nintendo_3ds_bundles_heading_to_europe_on_26th_june (http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2015/05/three_new_nintendo_3ds_bundles_heading_to_europe_on_26th_june)

There better be a North American equivalent coming because this is really bullshit if they don't.  I would love to have a Monado themed 3DS.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on May 07, 2015, 03:54:34 AM
Are the new Pokemon games 'new'3ds exclusive?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 07, 2015, 03:58:01 AM
No they aren't, in fact they preceded the New 3DS by a few months.  Also kind of odd that it's just Alpha Sapphire and not Omega Ruby too.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: ViperAcidZX on May 07, 2015, 03:59:40 AM
Are the new Pokemon games 'new'3ds exclusive?
You can still play them on the 'regular' 3DS models; my older brother has the regular 3DS XL along with Y and Omega Ruby and they work fine. Though my question is why isn't there a bundle for Omega Ruby? And why Europe is being treated so nicely instead of the US when it comes to the New 3DS?

Ninja'd.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Wanda Bear on May 07, 2015, 04:10:14 AM
You can still play them on the 'regular' 3DS models; my older brother has the regular 3DS XL along with Y and Omega Ruby and they work fine. Though my question is why isn't there a bundle for Omega Ruby? And why Europe is being treated so nicely instead of the US when it comes to the New 3DS?

Ninja'd.
Because they get treated like [parasitic bomb] with any other game. xD
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 07, 2015, 04:11:21 AM
Not as bad as Australia though.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: ViperAcidZX on May 07, 2015, 04:49:56 AM
Because they get treated like [parasitic bomb] with any other game. xD
But you're referring to the software (i.e. the games), not the hardware.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on May 09, 2015, 03:18:05 PM
Are the new Pokemon games 'new'3ds exclusive?
No, but there are compatibility issues in the games themselves to be aware of.  Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire have a few items, moves, and Mega Evolutions that cannot interact with X/Y.  Also, when you go online for a random Rating Battle, the "league" that accepts the OR/AS specific features will NOT accept any Pokemon that were not originally caught on a 3DS game.

I don't expect a "New 3DS" exclusive Pokemon to ever happen.  Pokemon embraced DSi enhancements without being exclusive to it and was EXTREMELY late in moving to the original 3DS.  Historically the series isn't that big on pushing new hardware, especially not in terms of processing power.  And it's not as if the C-Stick/extra buttons are of any real importance to a Pokemon game.

I WOULD appreciate if they could use the N3DS's extra power to keep the 3D effect on more often, though.  It's bizarre how frequently the games jump between 3D and 2D modes.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on September 01, 2015, 04:38:10 AM
Nintendo of America finally unveils the Normal sized New 3DS for the US, launching with Happy Home Designer (https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/638463787713044480/photo/1)

Is there some reason they needed to wait this long? I would've gladly preferred to get my hands on the smaller model instead of the XL but noooo we're not releasing that till the year's almost over.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on September 01, 2015, 04:41:09 AM
Yay I knew being patient would pay off! ~w~
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: ViperAcidZX on September 01, 2015, 04:54:45 AM
Finally, I can get what I originally wanted for my birthday!
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on September 01, 2015, 04:57:12 AM
Okay, but surely they could have chosen a better game to launch it with...
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on September 01, 2015, 04:58:34 AM
Maybe I can ask my brother to take me to Gamestop tomorrow to reserve it.  I hope they have a good amount of face plates to choose from too, I'd rather have a pattern one than a game specific face plate.

Okay, but surely they could have chosen a better game to launch it with...
True though it would have been better if they launched it with ORAS to be honest.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on September 01, 2015, 05:01:19 AM
I would've laughed my [tornado fang]ing ass off if it launched with Metroid Federation Force.

They totally should have done that. XD
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on September 01, 2015, 05:03:28 AM
Even though it would have been one of the worst marketing mistakes of Nintendo this year it would have been hilarious. XD
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: ViperAcidZX on September 01, 2015, 05:07:40 AM
Either that or one of the best trolling stunts Nintendo would ever pull. XD
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Police Girl on September 01, 2015, 05:42:00 AM
Also there's another Limited Edition Zelda 3DS.

Gamestop Exclusive and it appears there's no more preorders so that's that I guess.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on September 01, 2015, 05:52:04 AM
there's no more preorders so that's that I guess.

I wish I could say this surprised me.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on September 01, 2015, 05:52:35 AM
It doesn't look as nice as the Majora's Mask one anyway.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on September 02, 2015, 12:59:58 AM
Okay, but surely they could have chosen a better game to launch it with...

ONLY BABIES HAVE HANDS THAT SMALL AND PLAY ANIMAL CROSSING

(Sorry, I had to...)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on September 02, 2015, 01:13:07 AM
Well I pre-ordered the bundle since I was going to get Happy Home designer anyway.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: ViperAcidZX on September 02, 2015, 01:13:48 AM
ONLY BABIES HAVE HANDS THAT SMALL
Well you're not too far from the truth when it comes to Toddler Teen Titans GO's Robin...

(http://i.imgur.com/yCgnvwP.jpg)
literally and figuratively speaking
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on September 03, 2015, 12:58:45 AM
Yeah...I wasn't patient.  And now that I have a New XL I don't know if I can go back to normal-sized systems.  Not to mention an Animal Crossing bundle does not appeal to me, so......

Aw dammit, I'm still jealous of those faceplates.  One of these days I just need to order a Mega Man skin for my New XL, I just never got around to it.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on September 03, 2015, 06:26:38 AM
I'm fine with my Majora's Mask New 3DS XL, but I still think the swappable face plate system is so much better.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on September 03, 2015, 06:33:49 AM
I'd be fine with either but since my brother had the Red New 3DS XL, since Gamestop has an amazing online bundle deal with it, I wanted to get a different one, like the Animal Crossing Happy Home Designer New 3DS XL.  But this one came just in time.

Hopefully the Xenoblade Face Plate comes here, the Monado is such a badass weapon....when you don't know the dirty little secrets around it........
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on September 03, 2015, 06:39:53 AM
I agree. The Monado faceplate looks damn sexy
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on September 03, 2015, 06:41:46 AM
Not to mention it would look good whether you have a black 3ds or white 3ds.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on September 03, 2015, 06:55:42 AM
Well you can always buy them off eBay or something
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on September 03, 2015, 06:57:11 AM
Or Amazon. (http://www.amazon.com/Kisekae-Faceplate-Xenoblade-NEW-Nintendo-3DS/dp/B011HVQ9U0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1441256161&sr=8-1&keywords=xenoblade+3ds+faceplate&pebp=1441256157329&perid=0A139ZGJZSB81YZY6T6E)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on September 03, 2015, 06:58:40 AM
I'd rather wait to see if it comes here than import it.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on September 03, 2015, 07:09:24 AM
Man, these are soooooooooooo nice (http://www.amazon.com/Legend-Of-ZELDA-new-NINTENDO-CASE/dp/B00S66TU3S/ref=pd_bxgy_63_img_y)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on September 03, 2015, 07:13:10 AM
I personally like this one.

http://www.amazon.com/Kisekae-plate-No-055-Legend-Zelda/dp/B00T73HPMM/ref=pd_bxgy_63_text_y (http://www.amazon.com/Kisekae-plate-No-055-Legend-Zelda/dp/B00T73HPMM/ref=pd_bxgy_63_text_y)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: ViperAcidZX on September 03, 2015, 07:15:51 AM
I'm personally split between the one Sakura beaten me to the punch with and this (http://www.amazon.com/Legend-Of-ZELDA-new-NINTENDO-CASE/dp/B00S66TU3S/ref=pd_sim_sbs_63_7?ie=UTF8&refRID=1ZWJWF8DRV0MX649F1MT&dpSrc=sims&dpST=_AC_UL160_SR141%2C160_) one. Both would be perfect on a black New 3DS.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Protoman Blues on September 03, 2015, 07:16:27 AM
Haha, I beat you to the punch on that one  8D
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: ViperAcidZX on September 03, 2015, 07:23:12 AM
*sigh* Double dukes...
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on November 22, 2015, 12:29:33 AM
The White New 3DS XL is finally coming to America, Nintendo finally seems to realize that some people actually like having a white system.

http://nintendoenthusiast.com/news/pearl-white-new-nintendo-3ds-xl-to-release-in-north-america/ (http://nintendoenthusiast.com/news/pearl-white-new-nintendo-3ds-xl-to-release-in-north-america/)

Still hoping they start selling the Standard size New 3DS by itself so my mom can get one.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Amatiramisu on November 22, 2015, 01:01:24 AM
Very nice. I'll probably pick one up myself when I finally upgrade. I like the blue and all but the white looks really clean. Slap a gold decal or something on it and it'll look really nice.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on November 22, 2015, 01:05:28 AM
The Red and Black ones still look pretty snazzy but yeah it would be nice to get the Blue one here.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Amatiramisu on November 22, 2015, 08:22:03 AM
I mean the blue on my current 3DS lol but yeah.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on January 12, 2016, 06:56:14 PM
A Standard New 3DS bundle for the US has been revealed with the Original Pokemon Red and Blue pre installed and 2 face plates based on the Red and Blue cover arts has been announced for the 20th anniversary of Pokemon.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 09, 2016, 07:04:07 PM
The Standard New 3DS is finally getting another bundle with Super Mario 3D Land for $149.

Still only White however.

Also there's a decent number of Nintendo Selects now though I think you have to wait til August 26th for the New ones.

http://www.nintendo.com/nintendo-selects (http://www.nintendo.com/nintendo-selects)
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: ViperAcidZX on August 09, 2016, 07:30:19 PM
Dammit, right when I had to give in and buy the Animal Crossing: Happy Home Designer one...
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 09, 2016, 08:38:00 PM
Oh and the New 3DS bundle is exclusive to Target and Walmart apparently and also available on the 26th.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Amatiramisu on August 09, 2016, 09:20:58 PM
GIVE
ME
PINK
XL
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 09, 2016, 09:35:48 PM
Sorry Nintendo thinks America only likes Red and Black, we never even got that White one I was talking about.  Or that Blue One for that matter. 
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: ViperAcidZX on August 09, 2016, 09:47:02 PM
If anything, at least I found a nice Monster Hunter 4 faceplate to go with my New 3DS... under the Christmas tree.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on August 10, 2016, 04:12:07 PM
Once my finances get a little more sane, I'll probably want to look into Luigi's Mansion.  Never did get around to that one.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 29, 2016, 07:17:25 PM
https://mynintendonews.com/2016/08/29/north-america-new-galaxy-style-nintendo-3ds-unveiled/

Random Galaxy New 3DS XL has been revealed to be released for NA sometime this week.  It has been Reggie Approved.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 30, 2016, 07:40:55 PM
There's going to be a 3DS focused Nintendo Direct on the 1st of Spetember 7 AM PT.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on September 01, 2016, 07:31:18 PM
[yt]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IpXQtFbRChg#[/yt]

..........PORTABLE YOSHI WOOLY WORLD AND PIKMIN SIDE SCROLLING!

Street Pass is going to also get an update with new mini games and finally increasing the limit from getting 10 Street Passes to 100.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Satoryu on September 02, 2016, 03:56:39 AM
I have Woolly World on Wii U, so the extra stuff in the Poochy edition doesn't warrant a purchase for me. (The amiibo I would get though.) But if you're not a Wii U owner, I highly recommend you pick this version up. Woolly World is the best Yoshi game since the original on SNES, possibly even better. Same goes for Mario Maker, unless the options they took out are major.

I'm liking the idea of a Pikmin sidescroller. It sounds like something an indie developer would come up with.

But I was most excited to see Picross 3D Round 2 is out. I was jonesing for new Picross for ages.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Reaperoid on September 02, 2016, 08:54:02 AM
As long as they don't put anything similar to Picross-e's Mega Picross mode in, I'll be fine. I need to find the original Picross 3D now...
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on September 02, 2016, 07:12:29 PM
I really feel that Nintendo Direct, when you are speaking directly to people most likely to own a Wii U, is not the best time to announce that Yoshi's Woolly World is the new Hyrule Warriors...

Oh well.

I hope that the new sports compilation's version of golf doesn't have the cursor changing speeds mid-swing.  I HATED that about the last 3DS Mario Golf.

Mii Plaza updates are welcome, just got the slot car racer as my freebie.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on September 02, 2016, 08:10:07 PM
I don't know, I mean Poochy Mode doesn't really add much that a Wii U owner would miss and most Wii U owners would own Wooly World, especially since this year was starved for games.

Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on October 21, 2016, 11:35:43 PM
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/10/amazon-exclusive_lime_green_new_nintendo_3ds_xl_special_edition_is_now_available_in_north_america (http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/10/amazon-exclusive_lime_green_new_nintendo_3ds_xl_special_edition_is_now_available_in_north_america)

Random Amazon Exclusive Lime Green New 3DS XL has appeared with Super Mario World Pre-Installed.  It's not the Pink New 3DS XL that Ammy really wants but the Pink New 3DS XL did come out in Japan at the same time as this model so there may be hope for Ammy to get his Pink New 3DS XL yet. 

Will a Pink New 3DS XL be bundled with a Kirby Game or 3 or the surprisingly good Style Savvy: Fashion Forward?

Tune in to maybe find out!
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on November 07, 2016, 06:01:38 PM
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/11/budget_new_nintendo_3ds_models_announced_for_north_america (http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/11/budget_new_nintendo_3ds_models_announced_for_north_america)

Starting arounf Black Friday there will be Black and White standard New 3DSes with no games at $99.

We finally get the Black 3DS but we'll probably still be starved when it comes to cover plates. 
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Phi on November 07, 2016, 06:30:32 PM
I'm very tempted to get the white N3DS.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Reaperoid on November 07, 2016, 10:03:44 PM
Mines gotten very dirty, mind. I wish I didn't buy on release, and waited for the black one, sometimes.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on November 07, 2016, 10:17:56 PM
I personally just want some more cover plates in the NA so I don't have to pay upwards of $30 to import a single cover plate from Play-Asia.

Oh and extra stylus packs too, a single replacement at the Nintendo site is like $4.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Reaperoid on November 07, 2016, 11:00:48 PM
Yea plates are a bit much, but my ?-Block plates are totally worth it
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on November 07, 2016, 11:09:24 PM
Yeah, I personally want to get multiple plates, I like the idea of being able to customize the look of my 3DS without having to buy a case but Nintendo hasn't given me the opportunity.

Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on November 20, 2016, 06:48:17 AM
My New 3DS XL broke its parallax barrier.  From what, I'm not sure...closing too hard?  Guessing I should look into one of those $100 models on Black Friday.  If I feel like getting used to a regular-sized system again.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: ViperAcidZX on November 25, 2016, 04:56:55 PM
Apparently the black, regular-sized New 3DS with a matching Super Mario Bros. faceplate was being sold for $99 this Black Friday in Walmart and sold out in a heartbeat. [tornado fang] my life... :|
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on November 25, 2016, 06:08:41 PM
Has there been any other games besides Smash and Hyrule Warriors that has capitalized on the increased power of the New 3DS? I haven't heard of anything exciting about it in a long time. Seems like a wasted update in hind sight?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on November 25, 2016, 07:10:53 PM
Some games do perform better with a New 3DS, for a recent example there's Pokemon Sun and Moon performing better on the New 3DS since Pokemon Sun and Moon pushed the 3DS to the limit to the point that certain types of battles do lag on the normal 3DS but not the New 3DS.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: ViperAcidZX on November 25, 2016, 09:58:03 PM
And I think a few games like Gunvolt 1 got updates to support the extra ZL and ZR shoulder buttons to switch weapons without having to use the pause menu to do that. That and someone mentioned only New 3DS can actually run Super Nintendo games on the eShop because of the upgraded CPU.

Dammit, if only the black regular New 3DS came out way sooner, it would not only save me a lot of money from what my family spent on for the Animal Crossing bundle, but I could have gotten a New 3DS that would match perfectly with this faceplate (https://www.amazon.com/Kisekae-Plate-Faceplate-No-055-Legend-Nintendo/dp/B00YIH3T4A/) PB mentioned as well as the Power A Zelda carrying case I got for mine. Oh well... at least I found a decent substitute (https://www.amazon.com/Monster-Hunter-Case-Nintendo-Cover-plates/dp/B01IEYWOI4/) for the white one when they were in stock.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on November 25, 2016, 10:04:26 PM
Yeah you need to get the New 3DS to purchase and play SNES games, and of course Xenoblade Chronicles 3D. 

So if you have a Wii U this might not be as exciting, but if you don't have a Wii U a New 3DS is much more worth it......despite the fact it still can't play GBA games for some stupid reason unless you're an Ambassador like I am.  I mean I do agree that the Ambassador GBA games were not perfect, especially since you couldn't put the games into Sleep Mode, but you would think they'd figure out the kinks of that by now.......
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on November 26, 2016, 02:50:41 AM
I don't generally buy VC games over their actual physical counterparts, so I haven't kept up much. It greatly surprises me that GBA isn't on the 3DS. There has to be some good reason for it. I also don't buy Nintendo's assertion that the New3DS being needed to play SNES games. If the 3DS can play GBA games, which it can, it can play SNES games, period. This may just be a tactic to lure you into buying the upgrade.

I think I'm going to skip this version of the console. Not enough there to make me shell out really.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on November 26, 2016, 03:31:43 AM
I think Fxeni mentioned that Nintendo just couldn't get it the way they wanted on the 3DS, along with the no Sleep Mode thing.  So it's a quality thing they somehow haven't figured out on the 3DS but eh who knows.

However, it also makes me wonder why NES and N64 games on the Wii U look like [parasitic bomb] but it's perfectly fine on the Wii......like why did they let that pass? SNES games on the Wii U are unaffected, so the SNES games are in good graphical quality.

Another thing the New 3DS has is the nub which is good for Smash, FPSes and camera control in some games, but honestly, I barely used the thing, though then again I'm not too heavily into the former 2 things. So for the most part, it replaces the Circle Pad Pro (https://smile.amazon.com/Nintendo-3DS-Circle-Pad-Pro-Sonstiges/dp/B00B3TXJ14/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1480126458&sr=8-4&keywords=nintendo+3ds+circle+pad+pro) for the original 3DS.  Though the nub does not work for Kid Icarus Uprising for some reason.

The main reason I upgraded to the New 3DS is because I had the original one and not only is this was much more technically superior upgrade for me on all counts, but it's much more ergonomically sound than that edgy brick.

I mean seriously look at this brick compared to the New 3DS.

(http://i.imgur.com/JGw936g.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/9GwjCDm.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/vnT15ez.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/4eElUNs.jpg)

I mean seriously this is one of the few things besides the 360 controller, and yes I do mean the 360 controller, that gives me [tornado fang]ing hand cramps!  I had to put armor on that thing!

I also wanted the smaller one since I didn't want the huge screen and touch screen, I mean compared to the original's tiny screen this was a huge upgrade and I liked the face plate customization.....or I would like the face plate customization if NoA wasn't so wishy-washy about it and actually gave the standard a chance here......I have to import those because of NoA's BS.......

I mean I would be cool with the XL, but I really wanted the standard.

But another downside with the New 3DS is that it needs a micro SD card, and you need a tiny screwdriver to actually be able to put it in.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: ViperAcidZX on November 26, 2016, 06:55:05 AM
Though the nub does not work for Kid Icarus Uprising for some reason.
Okay, that's going to hurt my chances of buying Kid Icarus Uprising digitally...

I also wanted the smaller one since I didn't want the huge screen and touch screen, I mean compared to the original's tiny screen this was a huge upgrade and I liked the face plate customization.....or I would like the face plate customization if NoA wasn't so wishy-washy about it and actually gave the standard a chance here......I have to import those because of NoA's BS.......
This. Just, this right here.

But another downside with the New 3DS is that it needs a micro SD card, and you need a tiny screwdriver to actually be able to put it in.
Way ahead of you. owob *busts out the mini-screwdriver kit*

But in all seriousness, a mini screwdriver set shouldn't set back you too much though a single size #0/PH0 screwdriver should be fine. Not only for replacing the micro SD with one that has more storage space than what comes with the New 3DS by default, but also for switching face plates. Here's a tutorial I found for opening the New 3DS's bottom plate if anyone needs some help with that (although the guy here used his hand to pop the plate off instead of using the round end of the stylus).

[youtube]youtu.be/pSCHm0_xvHw[/youtube]
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on November 26, 2016, 08:05:33 AM
Yeah I have one too, it's just something everyone bitches about that's actually not that big of a deal.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on November 26, 2016, 08:11:00 AM
On the XL you do kinda have to be careful with those plastic tabs.  I'd imagine the regular sized one is a little easier to deal with since they're at least designed to be swapped out.

On Kid Icarus, there's no way in hell the New 3DS's C-stick would be precise enough to handle it.  It's not a slider like the Circle Pad is, more like a pressure-sensitive nipple.

Having an XL is nice since the bigger touch screen is a little easier to work with, and playing original DS or GB/C games in their original resolution doesn't hurt your eyes.  But the standard New 3DS screens are slightly bigger than original, so that might have helped, and I'd have really liked those faceplates had Nintendo bothered to release the standard size at the same time as the XL.

Has there been any other games besides Smash and Hyrule Warriors that has capitalized on the increased power of the New 3DS? I haven't heard of anything exciting about it in a long time. Seems like a wasted update in hind sight?
More than you'd think, just not a lot that got any real fanfare.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1177455 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1177455)

I mean, we all knew it was basically 3DSi going in, except the basic model had a shop already, so......yeah.  If Smash Bros. not handling like crap didn't convince you to update, nothing else likely will.  It's not by any means mandatory, but it is handy for the stable 3D and built-in Amiibo scanner.  I got the New XL when it first came out because I actually did need a replacement for my launch 3DS; Circle Pad cover was coming off and the A button would occasionally lose contact (made playing Mario Kart 7 real annoying).
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: OBJECTION MAN on November 26, 2016, 04:24:38 PM
Yeah, I'll probably be skipping it then. Not a huge deal. Amber has an XL anyway.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on January 24, 2017, 04:55:31 PM
So we have some news on the 3DS front today.

Firstly the Yellow Pikachu New 3DS XL is coming to NA, no bundled game with it unfortunately but it does look pretty nice in my opinion.

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2017/01/pikachu_yellow_edition_new_nintendo_3ds_xl_confirmed_for_north_america (http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2017/01/pikachu_yellow_edition_new_nintendo_3ds_xl_confirmed_for_north_america)

And 2 more 3DS games join Nintendo Selects and thus will be $20 from now on, Mario Luigi Dream Team and Kirby Triple Deluxe.  I have both and they are very good games, though Mario and Luigi Dream Team is bar none the hardest of the Mario and Luigi Series and if you want to get into it I don't recommend it as a starting point.

Hopefully we'll see more 3DS games joining Nintendo Selects in 2017 since the 3DS still has a lot of releases coming despite the Switch on the horizon
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on April 28, 2017, 04:40:34 AM
[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lxNHhgMuTg[/yt]

So this kind of came out of nowhere but it is interesting none the less.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on May 01, 2017, 08:19:01 AM
I don't normally pick on hardware that's clearly not directed at me anyway, but I think this stinks because it nails the coffin shut on a 3DS price drop happening anytime soon.  The entire family of systems is overpriced, but Nintendo can get away with it because Pokemon.

Consider the original 2DS sits at $80 and at the time of the New 3DS XL's release, Nintendo valued the "New" upgrade at about a $25 difference via price drop on the original XL model.  Do the math, that works out to them charging $45 for the New 2DS XL's hinge.
(minus the value of the AC adapter, plus the difference in value between face-tracking 3D and standard 3D, if you want to get specific)

But what really blows my shells is the in-no-way-specified-at-the-time-to-be-exclusive-to-Black-Friday-but-released-in-[parasitic bomb]-quantity-so-that-it-turned-out-that-way-in-hindsight standard size Super Mario edition New 3DS, which was priced at $100. 
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 01, 2017, 08:26:36 AM
It is almost the size of the New 3DS XL, but I do agree that price drops would have been much more welcomed, or you know.....more Standard New 3DS Models making state side.

That being said if this came out during the time I got my Standard New 3DS I would have considered it since I don't use the 3D.  Though I would have preferred the White and Orange one.....that everyone but the US is getting.

Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Hypershell on May 03, 2017, 06:20:03 AM
I'd have preferred the bottom screen being inset so as to not scratch/bang/crack the top screen when the system is closed.  It's a better design, I will admit that, but I actually use 3D (full blast on literally every game I have played other than Pilotwings), so it's out of the question.
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Splash on May 05, 2017, 10:11:21 PM
Is there a point in buying used 3DS, or it's better to buy 2DS (I don't really need 3D and I want to fit into a budget)?
Title: Re: Official Nintendo 3DS Discussion Thread - Specs, Tech, Price? It's all here!
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 05, 2017, 10:50:28 PM
I'd say at this point probably get the New 2DS when it comes out unless you find something cheaper when it comes out.