Cool. I FINALLY get to play Z2 now.
What do you mean finally? You had every Zero game except Z2?Yeah.
YAY!!! I now may actually get to play the Zero series!Yes! What he said! 8)
WHERE THE [tornado fang] IS MY MEGA MAN MANIA?I agree with this man as well. XD
Oh that's great. No, very nice Capcom. A great move indeed.
On the other hand...
WHERE THE [tornado fang] IS MY MEGA MAN MANIA?
Lucky me for buying all four Rockman Zero games on GBA already. It was fun live-streaming them.Please Vixy you will go and buy this version too, just like me. owob
This collection is super-cheap too. :3 </wii>
I feel happiness in my heart...at the same time I feel sadness in my heart (I don´t own a F**King DS)*shakehand*
Lucky me for buying all four Rockman Zero games on GBA already.
I will [parasitic bomb] bricks if we get voiced dialogues like in ZX. Like really hard.
I hope they'll at least upscale the cutscene images and have better music quality than GBA's
Don't let me down on this one, Inti.
I already have all four on GBA, but if this has some nice bonuses and the control setup is closer to how ZX handles, I'll certainly consider it.
That was a cool add to the Z series.
- The red splash effect that was used when things were sliced open (the "blood")
I hope it's just as good as the Japanese version, since the US version of the GBA games weren't.
What are you talking about? The removal of a silly little blood splatter effect suddenly makes the games less good?
I'd be happy if we just got the character voices for the game dubbed. I WANNA HEAR LUCAS!!!!
I still want to hear him say "This is Zero the voice of Lucas".
Imagine Lucas saying he's a messiah
I still want to hear him say "This is Zero the voice of Lucas".
Lucas: "I am the Messiah!" (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/lucaszero-iamthemessiah.mp3)
I really hope you all appreciate this thoughtful thing he did for us~
woah, woah, woah... where'd you get that? Lucas himself or some other place? o~Olurk a whole [tornado fang]ing lot more.
woah, woah, woah... where'd you get that? Lucas himself or some other place? o~O
woah, woah, woah... where'd you get that? Lucas himself or some other place? o~O
I wonder if they would make Dr. Weil's battles in Z4 not suck... he was pretty damn easy. Elpis easy.
Lucas: "I am the Messiah!" (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/lucaszero-iamthemessiah.mp3)Lucas, you are awesome. But you already knew that.
I really hope you all appreciate this thoughtful thing he did for us~
(Finally able to meet ya in your real form again, honey. Lovely Levi-tan :p)Levi's mine... -_-
Otherwise, you guys will hype yourselves up and then go into bitter mode like what happened with Mega Man X Collection.
Lucas: "I am the Messiah!" (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/lucaszero-iamthemessiah.mp3)
I really hope you all appreciate this thoughtful thing he did for us~
I wasn't around on the intarwebz much for that one, but shouldn't X1-X3 or X4, even in their original formats, game enough to satisfy?Because many people already have X1-6.
This many years later, I'm still trying to understand that line.
Was Omega thinking he was going to conquer the world and whatnot, or was he mocking Zero?
An option for the Japanese VA (not expecting them to do a dub)
The red splash effect that was used when things were sliced open (the "blood")
Uuh, the games already have all the Japanese acting in it, save for at least one monologue cut from Zero4.
Because many people already have X1-6.That was all baseless conjecture by a random blogger... one of the old MMN boys, IIRC. A lot of people bought into it and were furious when none of it came about. Things proposed by this person were:
And it wouldnt have killed them to fix X6's terrible localization (and maybe not slap us in the face further by removing the voice overs that were optional in the original game itself)
the bonuses were things everyone had really already seen...
and if im not mistaken, werent we promised voice overs and remastered tracks or something?
Which? All I knew was that was removed was the beginning of the ending credits for Z4.
I came late. And then...
(http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/7115/wtfza.png)
Boxes bleed for crying out loud.[parasitic bomb] was awesome.
Ciel narrated the intro, didn't she?
it was ciel.
This many years later, I'm still trying to understand that line.
Was Omega thinking he was going to conquer the world and whatnot, or was he mocking Zero?
because it'd be retarded not to add anything, and the only people who'd buy it already own the four games/have played em to death?Yeah, its like the Sonic Collection.
I wonder if it will feature any bonus goodies? I mean, if its NDS like ti says, then maybe it will just be No frills, but Id kill to have a remastered version with the remastered tracks music. I mean, the site's using it...Not the first time a website used remastered versions (see ZX). The fact that it's being produced in Japan gives me hope, though (if this were a U.S.-made compilation ala MMAC, I'd say probably not, because if they're using the Remastered Tracks some editing will be necessary to ensure that they loop properly).
Lucas: "I am the Messiah!" (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/lucaszero-iamthemessiah.mp3)I may need to add one of those clips as the opening for Cannonball Hard Revenge. 8)
I really hope you all appreciate this thoughtful thing he did for us~
Hmm... Actually, a change I would welcome, is a hardmode that doesnt revolve around nerfing the player, but just by making everything ELSE harder. That's something that Inti just can't seem to wrap their heads around.So incredibly true. Their ranking system is no better, since you are punished for using upgrades, bosses are effectively nerfed in response to you growing more powerful. It makes no sense whatsoever.
Lucas, you are awesome. But you already knew that.Here's hoping. Either way, it never hurts to remind him.
Will never happen because it is representive of blood, which is a nono for a game series that carries an E rating and will never carry anything higher. Also to be frank, it's a completely unnecessary cosmetic feature of the series that goes overboard a few times. Boxes bleed for crying out loud.They can always recolor it for ZX's "spark" appearance rather than removing it outright, though. I agree it doesn't mean all that much, it just sucks to have the finer touches omitted.
Don't give that "more mature" crap, either.
one of the old MMN boys, IIRC.Jaxel, I believe.
However, the death knell to all of this comes from Lucas himself. Someone asked him if he was ever called in to do recordings and he pretty much shot that down.In all fairness Lucas did admit that VAs are often the last people to hear about such things. Lucas confirms that no Zero-recording took place, doesn't mean that plans couldn't have been scrapped before they reached him. However it does confirm that any reports of X4 alterations being undone are false.
Personally, I dont think concept art is the best thing. ZOCW already has all of it- If anything, remastered stills and cutscenes. (Nakayama's work is great, bit I loved the more polished stills from Zero 3 and 4)the guy doing stills from Z 4 wasn't Nakayama, and he sucked horribly. I remember the art for Neige, it was horrible.
That said, you're wrong about the ratings. Advent got an E-10.
(http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/8381/rmz04014ds.jpg)
Yep.
What are you talking about? The removal of a silly little blood splatter effect suddenly makes the games less good?
Uuh, the games already have all the Japanese acting in it, save for at least one monologue cut from Zero4.
Will never happen because it is representive of blood, which is a nono for a game series that carries an E rating and will never carry anything higher. Also to be frank, it's a completely unnecessary cosmetic feature of the series that goes overboard a few times. Boxes bleed for crying out loud.
Don't give that "more mature" crap, either.
From a gameplay perspective, no. From overall polish and presentation; I would say it's certainly weaker than it's Japanese counterpart. I defiantly think it's a cool effect in the ZX series (albeit yellow).
The Zero series could totally get away with E 10+ or T (consider that Smash Bros carries a T). Plus, this is a collection of all the games; I would expect them to keep them as faithful as possible. It's for the fans in the same way the last two collections were.
You know what, though?
Given how censorship has been kicked up a notch in Japan in these last few years, I wouldn't be surprised if the "blood" was taken out of the JP originals, either.
If they wanted to keep Rockman Zero in the "safe" CERO A or B range, more than likely, the juice will have to be either taken out, or just made into sparks, like they did in ZX.
I kind of doubt they'd remove it from the Japanese version; as far as I know, the only censorship stuff that Japan got huffy about was the "sex"-simulators. :P
All the Voice acting the Zero series had was Ciel's Huff Huff! in Z1.
She also said 'Nani?' in Z2 when you spoke to her in the lab
I remember it being Okaeri.
She also said 'Nani?' in Z2 when you spoke to her in the labI never played 2
I never played 2Never played 2-4,only Z1....
Oops. Didn't realize that. Probably because there's next to no difference between E and E10 anyway. What did ZXA have that would be unappropriate for those under the age of 10?Overall less politically correct dialogue, I suppose. ZXA doesn't tip-toe around death, suffering, and god-complexes the way previous games of the X and Zero series did.
blackbeltdude: To my knowledge, there is no "voice acting" in the Zero games aside from the examples listed. It's not like the games' entire scripts were dubbed, that would never fit on a GBA. So in that sense, not much has been cut from the overseas releases at all in terms of acting. Any grunts and battle cries that were there originally weren't taken out.I don't think anyone mentioned the Z1 title screen.
(http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/img/gmw/docs/342/668/zero04.jpg)
What's going on with the life meter?, looks really weird.
The whole screen looks stretched, Zeros Head looks wierd.
I think that's just the shot's quality. It's the lifebar that's more interesting...
Sarcasm doesn't travel well on the internet.
Sounds pointless, honestly...
I remember it being Okaeri.
blackbeltdude: To my knowledge, there is no "voice acting" in the Zero games aside from the examples listed. It's not like the games' entire scripts were dubbed, that would never fit on a GBA. So in that sense, not much has been cut from the overseas releases at all in terms of acting. Any grunts and battle cries that were there originally weren't taken out.
Nope. Especially following the Akihabara incident two years ago, violence and gore related censorship has gotten a lot stiffer in recent years. Sega and Platinum Games' MadWorld wasn't even allowed to be released in Japan without a CERO rating of Z (the equivalent of "Adults Only").
And even in cases where blood existed in some series before hand (say, fighting games like Samurai Spirits/Shodown and Guilty Gear), the blood was taken out in future releases in Japan.
So, for a shounen level franchise like Rockman, I think it goes without saying that the "blood" will likely be taken out, or recolored. Or else, Capcom will have to settle for a higher rating because the Japanese censors just won't go for anything less than a "CERO B".
That's what it looks like for Japan. Assuming this game does come over here, that's up to CoA to decide how they localize it.
Ah, I think the remixed OSTs must have confused me then (since they had speaking tracks). Tongue
Can I get a facepalm image?(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/HitomiNeko/202e2660.jpg)
Ah, that's interesting. I thought you were talking about the Rapelay controversy before (I don't actually recall the Akihabara incident). Given all of that, I could see them adjusting the graphics for the Japanese territory (which kind of explains the yellow in ZX).
However, the blood effects could actually make the game sell BETTER in America. So it's possible Japan might not get it this time, but we could (wouldn't be the first time America got a version of a game with blood, while Japan didn't).
...While this would be nice, I liked how the game scolded people for sucking by bestowing upon them a horrid rank.So if you've unlocked Z2's Ultimate Form, you officially suck beyond redemption?
If you ask me, that screenshot looks like it could be from the prerelease ZERO1...My thoughts exactly. There was a similar issue with the DS Sonic Collection, with Sonic being in an S&K Knuckles screenshot.
So if you've unlocked Z2's Ultimate Form, you officially suck beyond redemption?
Rockman Zero (http://www.rockmanpm.com/?p=zero/rockmanzero1) flagjp 2002.04.26 (GBA) [AGB-ARZJ-JPN]
Rockman Zero 2 (http://www.rockmanpm.com/?p=zero/rockmanzero2) flagjp 2003.05.02 (GBA) [AGB-A62J-JPN]
Rockman Zero 3 (http://www.rockmanpm.com/?p=zero/rockmanzero3) flagjp 2004.04.23 (GBA) [AGB-BZ3J-JPN]
Rockman Zero 4 (http://www.rockmanpm.com/?p=zero/rockmanzero4) flagjp 2005.04.21 (GBA) [AGB-B4ZJ-JPN]
Rockman ZX (http://www.rockmanpm.com/?p=zx/rockmanzx) flagjp 2006.07.06 (NDS) [NTR-ARZJ-JPN]
Rockman ZX Advent (http://www.rockmanpm.com/?p=zx/rockmanzxadvent) flagjp 2007.07.12 (NDS) [NTR-YZXJ-JPN]
Dare I say this deserves a retrospect? /.w.\
I can give you this retrospect for now... :3 (http://forum.rockmanpm.com/index.php?topic=2634.0)Jesus,You did half of the series Vixy!
I'll think about another live cast later. ^^;
I kinda meant though, like what you did for classic with the front page. that wes really awesome. (remember we all talked about the possibility of doing it for the other series'?)
It's gonna be Zero series 8 Year Anniversary~!
Wait two years and we'd be at 10.
You know, DS has more buttons than GBA.
Maybe they can get rid of weapon switching as each weapon has it's own button now?
Well, just a wild guess tho. ::)
So if you've unlocked Z2's Ultimate Form, you officially suck beyond redemption?That's the exception to the rule. I'm not fond that they made Ultimate Form unlockable at the cost of killing your rank permanently, but it's a very Capcom-esque move in that you're punished for using the "overpowered" mode (see point reductions in DMC for using the super-powered forms)
That's the exception to the rule. I'm not fond that they made Ultimate Form unlockable at the cost of killing your rank permanently, but it's a very Capcom-esque move in that you're punished for using the "overpowered" mode (see point reductions in DMC for using the super-powered forms)No, thats more inti's thing.
Can I get a facepalm image?
The Akihabara incident, with "Suspect Kato", was a pretty volatile topic back in 08. Definitely sad, too. Go look it up, if you haven't, as it's at least a good means to understand why censorship is as hard in Japan as it is now.
But any way, again, I doubt very seriously that putting "juice" in a Rockman or Mega Man title will be that big of a selling point. The "God of War" crowd that makes up a sizable part of the American audience won't care. The people who already have played/owned the titles will also be more likely to be nonplussed by the idea. And Capcom would have to settle for at least a "T" rating, because the ESRB wouldn't tolerate anything else for such a display of "violence". That would do more to limit the audience that they can market this game towards, and why would they want that kind of handicap on possible sales numbers? 8D
So, I've read up on the Akihabara incident, and from what I can find, there didn't seem to be too big of a volatile reaction to violence afterwords (this is of course going off of Wikipedia, so please keep that in mind :P ).
Awesome, I got the Z-Saber with my Gold Max Armor! Hey Zero, check this sh...i... oh.You expected them to put two Z-Sabers in X3?
(BAD END)
The Ultimate Armor/Black Zero in X5 and in X8 are the exceptions in the punished for overpowered mode ruleX1 - Hadouken
by the time you get the saber, when youve got the gold max armor, Zero is useless anyway, and it SHOWS. Gold max can double air dash, hell, it can air dash PERIOD, amongst things like special weapons, charging them, and less damage... and then a saber wave. 8UValid points, but he still has the better buster.