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Title: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Flame on November 11, 2009, 04:34:43 PM
Just because I enjoy seeing 4kids squirm.

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The company posted a third-quarter net revenue of about US$7.3 million, compared to US$17.8 million during the third quarter of 2008, a decrease of 59 percent. For the year thus far, the company posted a net revenue of US$21.9 million, as opposed to US$49.4 million for this time last year, a decrease of US$27.5 million or 56 percent. 4Kids Entertainment recorded a net loss of US$5 million this past quarter, compared to US$5.3 million in the same time last year. It has lost US$20.9 million so far in 2009, compared to a loss of US$19.6 million during the first nine months of 2008.
To read the rest, here. http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-11-11/4kids-reveals-us$5-million-loss-in-third-quarter

Call me malicious, But I wish they'd just go down already.

Also, seems Nickelodeon has acquired the rights to the Ninja Turtles from them. (thank god.)
Now, if only Funimation could acquire the rights to Yugioh...
Title: Re: 4Kids Reveals US$5-Million Loss in Third Quarter
Post by: Strider Xhaiden on November 11, 2009, 04:56:27 PM
Hehehe.....
Title: Re: 4Kids Reveals US$5-Million Loss in Third Quarter
Post by: Blackhook on November 11, 2009, 05:25:27 PM
(http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/8840/asplannedrd3.jpg)
Title: Re: 4Kids Reveals US$5-Million Loss in Third Quarter
Post by: HyperSonicEXE on November 11, 2009, 05:41:16 PM
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Also, seems Nickelodeon has acquired the rights to the Ninja Turtles from them. (thank god.)

 0v0

C'MON, NICK, SHOW 'EM HOW IT'S DONE!!!
Title: Re: 4Kids Reveals US$5-Million Loss in Third Quarter
Post by: Rin on November 11, 2009, 08:38:41 PM
0v0

C'MON, NICK, SHOW 'EM HOW IT'S DONE!!!
YEAH! BECAUSE NICKELODEON PUTS OUT NOW SUCH GREAT SHOWS... wait.

4Kids might be [parasitic bomb], but at least their NINJA TURTLES were awesome... except Fast Forward. That [parasitic bomb] sucked.
Title: Re: 4Kids Reveals US$5-Million Loss in Third Quarter
Post by: Flame on November 11, 2009, 08:58:07 PM
YEAH! BECAUSE NICKELODEON PUTS OUT NOW SUCH GREAT SHOWS... wait.

4Kids might be [parasitic bomb], but at least their NINJA TURTLES were awesome... except Fast Forward. That [parasitic bomb] sucked.
I have to disagree. They are so overly family friendly that whatever they lay their hands on is ruined. Im sure they could even find a way to mess up Barney the dinosaur.
Title: Re: 4Kids Reveals US$5-Million Loss in Third Quarter
Post by: Rin on November 11, 2009, 09:05:57 PM
I have to disagree. They are so overly family friendly that whatever they lay their hands on is ruined. Im sure they could even find a way to mess up Barney the dinosaur.
And what does this have to do with what I said? I never praised 4Kids for anything, except saying that their turtles were awesome.
Title: Re: 4Kids Reveals US$5-Million Loss in Third Quarter
Post by: Solar on November 11, 2009, 09:10:19 PM
List of good things 4kids has done
-TMNT
-Ultimate Muscle (decent with some stupid censoring)
-First seasons of Pokemon
-Inspired the creation of Yugioh Abridged

...can't say I'll miss them much if they go bankrupt.
Title: Re: 4Kids Reveals US$5-Million Loss in Third Quarter
Post by: Flame on November 11, 2009, 10:46:44 PM
Meh. I never liked their turtles much. But then again, I never caught much of their turtles. it was fast foreward that I unfortunately caught.

And while I agree that The first like-2 orr 3 seasons of pPokemon were well done, that was before they became- Dunno.. They seemed a rather smalltime group then. now theyre just so full of themselves that theyve got their own tv block.
Meh they definittely wouldnt be missed.
Title: Re: 4Kids Reveals US$5-Million Loss in Third Quarter
Post by: Black Mage J on November 11, 2009, 11:42:21 PM
First seasons of pokemon were great, or maybe thats nostalgia talking. Though the whole thing that Shreder wouldnt just DIE EVER. Though he was like the only bad guy that could be used so much.
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Flame on May 11, 2010, 07:08:53 AM
Ok, Im not going to make a new topic about this, so Ill just legendary necropost the old one, since its relevant to 4shits' eventual demise.

LAST TIME, ON DRAGON BA- Er- 4kids news, they were loosing much money.
This time, they are starting to get bought up by others.

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The 4Kids Entertainment licensing and broadcasting company has announced in its 2010 First Quarter financial results on Monday "that it had received a non-binding indication of interest from a third party to acquire 4Kids." According to 4Kids, the third party expressed interest in acquiring the company for a premium over the market capitalization of its common stock. However, 4Kids cautioned that there is no assurance that a deal will go through.

4Kids had retained the financial advisor Montgomery & Co. to help evaluate its strategic alternatives in 2009. The company's Special Committee of the Board of Directors was planning to consider options "including, but not limited to, asset sales, alliances with strategic partners, and/or a sale of the Company through a merger or other corporate transaction."

For the three months ending on March 31, 4Kids announced net revenues of US$4.2 million, compared to US$9.3 million in the same period in 2009. Its net loss was US$3.5 million, compared to US$2.0 million in the same period in 2009. 4Kids acknowledged that it faces delisting from the New York Stock Exchange since its market capitalization has been below the US$15 million minimum that it must maintain.

The company's stock price
closed on Friday at US$1.10, but it hit a high of US$1.25 on Monday morning before settling at US$1.15 as of 12:20 p.m. EDT. Its current market capitalization is roughly US$15.62 million.

In the past, 4Kids adapted Pokémon, One Piece, Tokyo Mew Mew, Kirby: Right Back At Ya!, Shaman King, Sonic X, and other anime titles for the North American market. Its current properties include Yu-Gi-Oh!, Dinosaur King, and Tai Chi Chasers (Tai Chi Senjimon) from Japan, as well as the card-game-based Chaotic franchise from Denmark.

Thanks to dynasore for the news tip.

Update: Prescott Group Capital Management reported in a mandated U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission filing on April 30 that it acquired 2,414,209 shares of 4Kids Entertainment. These shares represents 18% of the outstanding shares of 4Kids' common stock
. According to Prescott, 4Kids is "undervalued and represented an attractive investment opportunity." However, Prescott added that the investment was "not made for the purpose of acquiring control" of 4Kids. Source: DealFlow Media
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-05-10/4kids-reports-3rd-party-is-interested-in-acquiring-it
http://www.dealflowmedia.com/alerts/activistinvestor/wires/article.cfm?id=huqzcigfbunysth

and the document itself
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/58592/000095012310046489/c00629sc13d.htm

Maybe this is ONE more step towards the eventual COMPLETE buy out and or management change? I sure damn hope so. Al Khan's GOT to go.
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Solar on May 11, 2010, 07:12:23 AM
LAST TIME, ON DRAGON BA- Er- 4kids news,

Kinda appropiate since IIRC they're doing DB Kai too.

Honestly I just don't care what happens to the company at this point.

Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Flame on May 11, 2010, 07:13:46 AM
I actually do, considering they ruined my Saturdays by buying out the Kids WB slot, which while it was still mediocre till then, at least wasnt 4Kids TV on a new channel, which is what it became.

Also, I really have to wonder how that works. How is it they  are doing Kai, when Funi did DBZ? one would think Funi would get it.
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Mirby on May 11, 2010, 07:18:41 AM
(http://www.vgcats.com/comics/images/050418.jpg)

That is all.

Still, good to hear the turtles escaped from the clutches of 4Kids.
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Sky on May 11, 2010, 07:22:52 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQppQcM4kJc&feature=related[/youtube]

without 4kids boring the hell out of the people they hire we won't have stuff like this anymore
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Bag of Magic Food on May 12, 2010, 12:28:54 AM
Also, I really have to wonder how that works. How is it they  are doing Kai, when Funi did DBZ? one would think Funi would get it.
I thought Funimation was dubbing Kai, and 4Kids simply gets to broadcast it.
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Flame on May 12, 2010, 12:36:43 AM
That makes even less sense, given 4kids track record. doesnt DBZ have lots of violence? what are they gonna do? Cut to commercials during those parts? Replace it with shadow realm?
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Dexter Dexter on May 12, 2010, 12:39:40 AM
...Two words:
About DAMN time.

...Anyhow, the link in the very first post ain't loadin'. What a shitload of bullshit.

EDIT: The link finally works, but not in a way I expected.

Also:
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4Kids has signed a deal with the National Football League for a new trading card game, which will be based on the existing Chaotic  card system.
*jaw drops and detaches from face and shatters when it hits floor*
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Mirby on May 12, 2010, 01:16:19 AM
That makes even less sense, given 4kids track record. doesnt DBZ have lots of violence? what are they gonna do? Cut to commercials during those parts? Replace it with shadow realm?
AND NOW, FOR THE NEXT 5 MINUTES, DBZ: KAI!

edit: lol my avvy's Vegeta right now.
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Gaia on May 12, 2010, 01:52:23 AM
...Two words:
About DAMN time.

That's three words, lol. And I never cared for the NFL, and having a cardgame using Chaotic's EXISTING engine is gonna [acid burst] off Chaotic fans, I bet.
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on May 12, 2010, 01:53:44 AM
 *o*

It can only get better from this point on.
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Solar on May 12, 2010, 02:00:18 AM
That makes even less sense, given 4kids track record. doesnt DBZ have lots of violence? what are they gonna do? Cut to commercials during those parts? Replace it with shadow realm?

It's already a bit censored anyways.
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Flame on May 12, 2010, 06:30:18 AM
That's three words, lol. And I never cared for the NFL, and having a cardgame using Chaotic's EXISTING engine is gonna [acid burst] off Chaotic fans, I bet.
Chaotic has fans? What?

also, 'parrently, 4kids is reporting a  US$3.5-Million Loss in 1st Quarter 2010.

I remember being called "malicious" for this elsewhere, but I hope they go under. Yes, all over anime and cartoons. Is it just me, or whenever something comes out of Al Khans mouth, you just get this urge to punch him square in the middle of his face?


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At Least 12 New Properties to Be Introduced This Year
Kahn also said that 4Kids will be showing at least five new properties at a licensing show in Las Vegas in June, and "obviously, when all is said and done for 2010, we will be introducing a minimum of 12 new properties." Of these 12 properties, eight will be "children's licenses" under 4Kids Entertainment, and four will fall under 4Kids subsidiary 4Sight Licensing Solutions, which will "develop licenses to a broader spectrum of demographies and not necessarily children." Kahn did not specify how many of these titles will be Japanese-animated.

Kahn had said in March that "4Kids needs to return to its roots as a licensing and merchandising company [that] specializes in bringing wonderful Japanese programming and merchandising to the rest of the world."

Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Rin on May 12, 2010, 12:37:29 PM
Hey, they mention broader audience! Maybe they'll dub Sora Kake Girl...


Oh God... that thought scares me. D :
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Flame on May 13, 2010, 10:11:31 PM
Oh yay, 4kids is being De-Listed from the Stock exchange. theve got 10 days to figure out what they are going to do. :D
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Gaia on May 13, 2010, 10:19:29 PM
Chaotic has fans? What?

Half of DA lol.

...And $Kids returning to thier roots? I'd like to see them TRY. First off, right off the bat, hire an actual japanese translaitor that excels at english. 2nd, no rap, hip-hop, or butchering of the origional anime's OP and ED, which is extremely annoying. Do one of two things:

1. Do what you did with Pokemon's first OP. Transilate it.

2. Keep the origional OP, like Gundam Wing. I bet Ami/Yumi's OSTs are still floating around FYE, Buest Buy, or somewhere on the internet, so J-Pop is still tolerable in the US.

And DON'T follow the quick-n-easy path, as CN did, or you'll get something close to TDI or Jhonny Test. Following with actual research before dubbing.
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Flame on May 13, 2010, 10:24:04 PM
well, their initial pokemon roots were not that bad... (that I know of anyway.) Back before anyone knew them, when they still used this logo and it ONLY EVER appeared during Pokemon's credits.
(http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5287/logo4kids.gif)
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Gaia on May 13, 2010, 10:34:01 PM
I know, but once and awhile they need to look back on thier success with Pokemon before they produce anything out of their arse.

And yes, I find that logo more superior than the "sissy logo" they have currently.
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Flame on May 14, 2010, 09:01:02 AM
It looked more Dignified. more... "professional." The current one just makes them look like a party service.
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Mirby on May 14, 2010, 09:10:45 AM
Yeah, it does. The old one there is much superior.
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Rin on May 14, 2010, 12:22:54 PM
1. Do what you did with Pokemon's first OP. Transilate it.
What are you babbling about? They never translated the first Pokemon opening. They made their own.
.....











Polish version of that opening >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all other versions.
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Bag of Magic Food on May 16, 2010, 09:43:17 PM
Yeah I don't remember any "And under the skirt of the girl!" in the English song.
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Gaia on May 16, 2010, 10:11:59 PM
What are you babbling about? They never translated the first Pokemon opening. They made their own.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVleZaw-uYI[/youtube]

Well, if not, then the opening must've been shortened to usual US standards and edited. There's quite a few scenes here that was in the US opening too.
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Solar on May 16, 2010, 10:18:16 PM
There's quite a few scenes here that was in the US opening too.

Dude, that's ALWAYS the case when companies make their own openings instead of using the original. NO 4Kids opening has ever been the same as the original, does any part of the JP intro even sound like it resembles the US one? ::)
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on May 16, 2010, 10:18:56 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVleZaw-uYI[/youtube]
Y'know, that's a helluva lot less annoying than the English dub intro.
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 16, 2010, 10:33:58 PM
1. Do what you did with Pokemon's first OP. Transilate it.

What made you think they translated it?

Y'know, that's a helluva lot less annoying than the English dub intro.

get out
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Gaia on May 16, 2010, 11:15:30 PM
What made you think they translated it?

Well, I thought "What?". Some anime in most regions had thier Origional OP songs transilated. I might have mistaken it for some other regional dub. :P

Dude, that's ALWAYS the case when companies make their own openings instead of using the original. NO 4Kids opening has ever been the same as the original, does any part of the JP intro even sound like it resembles the US one? ::)

Well, thats' the US and certain companies, it doesn't certainly apply in -certain- regions. Head Cha La was actually transilated into spanish at one point. It's just that 4Kids have always been picky about thier openings.

Anyone remember Kirby?
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on May 16, 2010, 11:22:03 PM
get out
I must be encroaching upon sensitive grounds~  8D
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Bag of Magic Food on May 16, 2010, 11:54:16 PM
Y'know, that's a helluva lot less annoying than the English dub intro.
The little intro/outro riff reminds me of those Rocky Balboa movies.
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Flame on May 17, 2010, 03:09:27 AM
OK GUYS, YOU KNOW THE DRILL.

"I WANNA BE- THE VEEEERY BEST-"
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on May 17, 2010, 03:10:18 AM
OK GUYS, YOU KNOW THE DRILL.

"I WANNA BE- THE VEEEERY BEST-"
No.
I forbid it.
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Flame on May 17, 2010, 03:13:21 AM
OK GUYS, YOU KNOW THE DRILL.

"I WANNA BE- THE VEEEERY BEST-"
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Mirby on May 17, 2010, 03:13:29 AM
LIKE NO ONE EVER WAAAASSSS!!!!
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on May 17, 2010, 03:20:52 AM
LIKE NO ONE EVER WAAAASSSS!!!!
Goatse
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Flame on May 17, 2010, 03:25:08 AM
LIKE NO ONE EVER WAAAASSSS!!!!
TO CATCH THEM, IS MY REAL TEST, TO TRAIN THEM IS MY CAUUUUUUSE!
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on May 17, 2010, 03:26:55 AM
TO CATCH THEM, IS MY REAL TEST, TO TRAIN THEM IS MY CAUUUUUUSE!
Paging Dr. Strangelove; we have some animals here that can be bred and slaughtered.
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Flame on May 17, 2010, 03:33:59 AM
If you dont like it, the doors over there. :P *points at door*
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on May 17, 2010, 03:52:50 AM
If you dont like it, the doors over there. :P *points at door*
(http://courses.ece.ubc.ca/373/library/images/photo_movieMatrix-quoteSpoon.jpg)
There is no door.
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Bag of Magic Food on May 17, 2010, 04:21:46 AM
Pokeymon, errrrrr, yer my best friend, on the show that never ends
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Rin on May 17, 2010, 12:51:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOt7FLcUeU8

HA HA HA MAGGOTS!
KNEEL BEFORE THE SUPERIOR VERSION!
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Mirby on May 17, 2010, 01:04:15 PM
I can't believe you actually went and found that... hehe
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Blackhook on May 17, 2010, 01:11:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOt7FLcUeU8

HA HA HA MAGGOTS!
KNEEL BEFORE THE SUPERIOR VERSION!
It has been long since I heard this one...we only got the English version
The german opening are also nice
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Gaia on May 17, 2010, 07:30:45 PM
Oh dear.. what have I started..  8D
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: ViperAcidZX on May 18, 2010, 12:54:55 AM
Thank you lordy lordy lord~! If this keeps up, soon we will bask in the dream of anime that will no longer be butchered by removing important story arcs or removing all the cleavage that many perverts strive for~!

Now everyone, let's all gather around at the First Internation Church of Izuna (http://melonpiranha.deviantart.com/art/Izuna-155227554) and praise the anime gods for answering our prayers~ >w<
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Flame on May 18, 2010, 01:07:56 AM
As much as Justin could improve his art, i think you can make your point WITHOUT insulting someones elses artwork, no?
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: ViperAcidZX on May 18, 2010, 01:14:35 AM
Alright, I'll remove the image...
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Bag of Magic Food on May 18, 2010, 04:53:20 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOt7FLcUeU8

HA HA HA MAGGOTS!
KNEEL BEFORE THE SUPERIOR VERSION!
Why do so many other countries just get translations of the English translation?
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Gaia on May 18, 2010, 05:04:46 AM
Why do so many other countries just get translations of the English translation?

For some odd reason I don't know. It must've been that 4Kids does exist around the other countries, it's why South America's Pokemon OP has the US OP.
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Flame on May 18, 2010, 05:05:08 AM
Because I think they still get the 4kids version.
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Blackhook on May 18, 2010, 06:52:10 AM
Sad but true...4 kids is international...
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on May 18, 2010, 07:21:23 AM
Sad but true...4 kids is international...
Poor Europe no more.
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Bag of Magic Food on May 18, 2010, 09:16:08 AM
So 4Kids doesn't want to make an American version of a show; they want to make an everywhere-but-Japan version!
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Flame on May 18, 2010, 09:28:51 AM
IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW.
Title: Re: 4Kids being "acquired" by 3rd party?
Post by: Blackhook on May 18, 2010, 01:33:23 PM
Wait...you just found out? I thought that was common knowledge...