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Base => News and Announcements => Topic started by: Klavier Gavin on July 03, 2009, 03:33:55 AM
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In the recent Volume 31 of the GT Newsletter, they had a Q&A with Star Force 3 series producer Takeshi Horinouchi. Now, I know what you're thinking; "It's Star Force. Why should we care?". Well, maybe this quote will get your attention:
WHAT GAMES ARE YOU PLAYING FOR FUN RIGHT NOW?
A remake of Megaman Battle Network which I've been working on.
There you have it. The new EXE game titled "Rockman EXE Operate Shooting Star" is most likely a remake of the first EXE game "Battle Network Rockman EXE"
Source (http://www.gametrailers.com/newsletter/communityNewsletter7-2-09july4th.html)
Credit: TMMN (http://www.themmnetwork.com/?p=1950)
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Knew it. Probably like we thought, EXE 1 wth SF gameplay
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Hey, as long as EXE2 gets remade with the same script the original US release had, I won't mind at all.
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Why dont they put that effort into other Megaman stuff though...?
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I'm hoping he just meant that he was working on a BN game similar to BN1; otherwise, I can't see the point of the "Operate Shooting Star" subtitle. (Also, I'm a sucker for crossovers and I'd hate to see this one wasted.)
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Another remake? Wouldn't that just fall under the same catagory as Powered Up and Maverick Hunter X? -u-'
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C+P from TMMN:
*starts singing Alleluja randomly*
Well, if it's a direct remake, I'd be damned, but hey, let's not forget the Street Fighter series with it's own additions when it had it's remakes so, why not?
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A remake? Of the first one? With probability of the same battle system ryuusei has?
DO NOT WANT!
D :
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Whoo, the first one was kinda tedious! And bland! But I really don't see them messing it up; after all, that was their first foray into the MMBN/MMSF territory. I'm sure even the gameplay would be updated.
Not sure if want...
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Heh , as long as its Battle Network , i'll LOVE it~
*Preordering if tis avalible*
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Yeah, I'll still probably buy it anyway, just to support a possible step in the right direction.
Although if I read beforehand that there's something seriously wrong with the mechanics, I'm not.
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Whoo, the first one was kinda tedious! And bland! But I really don't see them messing it up; after all, that was their first foray into the MMBN/MMSF territory. I'm sure even the gameplay would be updated.
Not sure if want...
Hey, you read my mind.
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Hey, if they remake this one, they can throw in CutMan, TimeMan, and OilMan! owo
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I need to see trailer/scans before further judgment. I'm still undecided.
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Maybe theyll throw in splashwoman~
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I just Elecman´s stage to be remade and I will be happy.... -_- what? I liked BN 1...it had all the MM1 bosses (except cutman) and It also had MagicMan....To fight him again would be a dream
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There was nothing wrong with EXE1 besides the generic Net Areas. Hell, you didn't even have to use SubChips and you could fill your folder with 10 Paladin Swords
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Why does Capcom always remake the first title of one of their franchises?
Why not remake MM2/MM3, MMX2/MMX3, MMBN2/MMBN3?
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Because the first title is the oldest. Also, it helps to restart the plot at the start instead of the middle.
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Prepare for Time man and Oilman EXE. >~> May that be what clockmaster is for?
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I hope this is a bad translation of the answer, the only remake that Rockman need right now is one for the first Dash in order to get new fans on board.
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Eh... I don't know if that's the best of ideas, considering how much complaining I hear about the battle system in Ryuusei. Even though I don't even like the EXE series personally, it just sounds like a mess-up waiting to happen to me.
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in b4 game sales are lower than Capcom expected
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I hope this is a bad translation of the answer, the only remake that Rockman need right now is one for the first Dash in order to get new fans on board.
>Rockman
>new fans
>0<
No, seriously, Mega Man games are legacy. It's just not a series that appeals to the newer generation. And any attempt to make a series that would appeal to them would only wind up being a disaster and a mockery of the license compared to the settings of the classic entries (i.e. compare the badassery of MMX1 or the attitude of the Classic Mega Man series to the performance and setting of Starforce).
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Hey u guys think of the brightside!
Myabe theyll add nintendo Wifi to it!
Real Netbattling~ *o*
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We know you are a BN Fan Soul, but that doesn't change the fact that this game is crap. Its just a bad remake with the SF battle system. A cheap and mean way of trifling with our hearts. The KNOW how much we want a new Megaman game. Not remakes. NEW. MM10, X9, ZX3, L3, THATS what we want. And then, when they make GOOD remakes, like PU and IHX, they dont continue them because they dont give a [parasitic bomb] about sales outside of Japan even though the game goes across the whole damn world. o//////o
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that this game is crap.
Already crap because it's not even out yet, and it is a psudeo RPG game starring megaman in an entirely diffrent scenario? I'm not even gonna go farther than this. it's called reverse engieneering people!
Remember those BN events that got you the BN Blaster after you inserted a game cartridge? I belive it's gonna be reversed. You get the Ryuusei Blaster or a chip featuring Ryuusei instead~
And a game is a game, no matter what.
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We know you are a BN Fan Soul, but that doesn't change the fact that this game is crap. Its just a bad remake with the SF battle system. A cheap and mean way of trifling with our hearts. The KNOW how much we want a new Megaman game. Not remakes. NEW. MM10, X9, ZX3, L3, THATS what we want. And then, when they make GOOD remakes, like PU and IHX, they dont continue them because they dont give a [parasitic bomb] about sales outside of Japan even though the game goes across the whole damn world. o//////o
Dude , you havent even played it , and its already crap? Do you not even care that its coming out? Sure , i'd like a ZX3 , MM10 , and X9 also, but we should be happy with what we have as gamers. Also , the people who make MM9 and X9 , arent the same as the people who are making this remake. And a addition : if they want to squeeze a X9 out of their corporate anus , it wouldnt be very good because they would have had a deadline , and not allowed to develop a good 'storyline' for the game , which = more plotholes. ( Also honestly , the reason i didnt state L3 is because i dotn want one yet ) Anyways , back to my letters i bolded in the quote. I might not be a huge SF fan , but not everyong and everything is part of your "we" , there are people who are happy just to see a game come out.
And think of it like this. After this re-make , the onlything they can do is either , make more ( unlikely ) , or actually focus on something your looking for.
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Because Im tired of Remakes that will never be continued. this game, Just like PU and MHX, is going to tank. Everyone is going to love it, but then Capcom will say it did not meet sales expectations, and drop it like a hot potato.
Im tired of this... We could be getting ZX3 instead of this. the ZX series which is slowly turning into another Legends. -_-
EDIT: Or that X collection that we could've gotten.
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Huh? i have a random X collection somewhere in my pile of megaman games
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Because Im tired of Remakes that will never be continued. this game, Just like PU and MHX, is going to tank. Everyone is going to love it, but then Capcom will say it did not meet sales expectations, and drop it like a hot potato.
Im tired of this... We could be getting ZX3 instead of this. the ZX series which is slowly turning into another Legends. -_-
EDIT: Or that X collection that we could've gotten.
Well, Cappy DID confirm for more than enough megaman games this year, ZX3 and DASH3 could be one of them, this is just the second, Black Ace/Red Joker were first for this year's batch. Give them good enough time and, ZX3 could be around by Christmas time.
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Yay~ ZX3 and my Ren and Lin Vocaloids~ Best X-mas Evar~
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[objection!]
This is so contradicting, Seriously there's no pleasing you people.
When the EXE Series finished we all cried blood tears because we want it back, now we've FINALLY got it back and then -BOOM- Nobody wants it execpt the TRUE EXE fans.
Now.. how far will the fans go in contradiction..
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Huh? i have a random X collection somewhere in my pile of megaman games
Things it was going to have was funneled into MHX instead. We were promised Ocean group Re dubs of X4 5 and 6, a completely re- translated script for X6, remixed music for the first 3 games, and bonus features through the nose.
but, Inafune decided to funnel all that into MHX instead, because he wanted to concentrate all possible into it.
result? the mediocre X collection we got, that simply lazily removed Voice acting from X6, didnt fix anything, just added a few useless hints that anyone can get from Gamefaqs, and the only good feature was the artwork. the selection screen was pretty lazy as well. I mean, excuse me for having my hopes set high by Anniversary collection... They didnt even make any orioginal music for the Game select. they just reused the X4, X6 stage select and X5 second stage select theme.
Posted on: July 03, 2009, 10:58:22 PM
[objection!]
This is so contradicting, Seriously there's no pleasing you people.
When the EXE Series finished we all cried blood tears because we want it back, now we've FINALLY got it back and then -BOOM- Nobody wants it execpt the TRUE EXE fans.
Now.. how far will the fans go in contradiction..
I was a fan of BN. I didnt cry any tears.
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This is so contradicting, Seriously there's no pleasing you people.
When the EXE Series finished we all cried blood tears because we want it back, now we've FINALLY got it back and then -BOOM- Nobody wants it execpt the TRUE EXE fans.
Well I don't think the problem is with bringing the Exe series back, but rather what they're going to do with it. A remake probably won't be as interesting as an actual Exe 7, and it's likely to include elements from the newer games that turned people off from the series in the first place.
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No, seriously, Mega Man games are legacy. It's just not a series that appeals to the newer generation. And any attempt to make a series that would appeal to them would only wind up being a disaster and a mockery of the license compared to the settings of the classic entries
I'm sure you noticed the waves of 13-year-old rampaging through the Rockman community when EXE was at its popularity peak. EXE was actually a good RPG series that drew newer generations into Megaman. Then Capcom screwed up.
When the EXE Series finished we all cried blood tears because we want it back, now we've FINALLY got it back and then -BOOM- Nobody wants it execpt the TRUE EXE fans.
No one really cried, because we assumed Capcom would pull off something like that on the DS. People started feeling regrets after Shooting Star 1 bombed. What nobody wants is an EXE remake with stuff from Shooting Star. If this was just a remake like Pokemon Gold & Silver everyone would be content.
Also, if you think this is bad just wait for the day Legends 3 is announced. Unless it's the holy grail of Megaman RPGs you can bet half the community will whine like little bitches
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No one really cried, because we assumed Capcom would pull off something like that on the DS. People started feeling regrets after Shooting Star 1 bombed. What nobody wants is an EXE remake with stuff from Shooting Star. If this was just a remake like Pokemon Gold & Silver everyone would be content.
Exactly.
Remake is unneeded, and they would be better making a new entry into the series. Especially, since they probably want to put Starforce [parasitic bomb] in there. I mean, if the battle system was exactly like in Starforce 3, then I could somehow eat this up. But still, EXE series was mostly defined by its battle system AND the fact we could look forward to seeing our classic characters remade.
But what can we expect from a remake? Nothing much. Especially if it's a remake of the first and weakest part of the series(even more weak than EXE 4. srsly). Still, they might add tons of stuff into it. But that's not what anyone wants. This is not Pokemon. This series came very late, unlike Pokemon, which is a very oldschool game. It was played by many, MANY children gamers who are now ADULT gamers, and they will jump on such a nostalgia rush like dog on a steak.
But who would be interested in an EXE remake? Who? Because certainly not me and Flame(and many other people).
HOWEVER. If it will turn out, that this is not a remake. But a new entry in the series. Then I'm okay with it. Because, think about it. EXE + Starforce = Stardroids as Navis.
/end rant
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I'm sure you noticed the waves of 13-year-old rampaging through the Rockman community when EXE was at its popularity peak. EXE was actually a good RPG series that drew newer generations into Megaman. Then Capcom screwed up.
Even so, the newer EXE fans don't generally care about the other Megaman series. I suppose Legends 3 could get the FPS and Sony crowds up, but I think a new series is in order.
But there's the trick; ZX's platforming didn't work and neither did Starforce's RPG. There's got to be some genre that'd pull new fans. Perhaps a Monster Hunter~esque Megaman?
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Even so, the newer EXE fans don't generally care about the other Megaman series. I suppose Legends 3 could get the FPS and Sony crowds up, but I think a new series is in order.
But there's the trick; ZX's platforming didn't work and neither did Starforce's RPG. There's got to be some genre that'd pull new fans. Perhaps a Monster Hunter~esque Megaman?
No...just no
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Battle Network 3 was the last good BN game.
and 6 was a joke... It was way too easy. Seriously? a tank cannon chip obtainable the start of the game? WTF.
too many good chips were gettable too early.
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Things it was going to have was funneled into MHX instead. We were promised Ocean group Re dubs of X4 5 and 6, a completely re- translated script for X6, remixed music for the first 3 games, and bonus features through the nose.
As far as I'm concerned, MMN lied to you, deal with it.
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i wish they would put effort into making the exe series not shitty.
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All that series like BN and SF ever draw in, are little 11 year olds who love collect em all's. Like Pokemon. I worked with 11 year olds one summer. ALL POKEMON.
Posted on: July 04, 2009, 03:20:49 PM
As far as I'm concerned, MMN lied to you, deal with it.
That so?
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Even so, the newer EXE fans don't generally care about the other Megaman series. I suppose Legends 3 could get the FPS and Sony crowds up, but I think a new series is in order.
If you can't get kids into platformer games aimed to kids and/or nostalgia fans like half the people here, then you won't get the FPS and Sony crowds into megaman because they are mature gamers that play mature games like themselves, unless MML3 plays like Bayonetta.
But there's the trick; ZX's platforming didn't work and neither did Starforce's RPG. There's got to be some genre that'd pull new fans. Perhaps a Monster Hunter~esque Megaman?
In before Zone of the Enders
Battle Network 3 was the last good BN game.
and 6 was a joke... It was way too easy. Seriously? a tank cannon chip obtainable the start of the game? WTF.
too many good chips were gettable too early.
Yeah, it was easy as hell, but it still was fun. It was less tedious than 5 and felt a lot more like an EXE game than 4. Cross system was a good simplification of the Soul Unison system (although many crosses were cheap as hell), Beast Crosses were less lazy than Chaos Union and most of the library was composed of somewhat useful chips. The plot and side missions were meh, but if Capcom had spawned 6 before they could have improved over it and made better games...nah scratch that, it wouldn't happen. They would've [tornado fang]'d the series anyways.
i wish they would put effort into making the exe series not shitty.
Talking about wishful thinking
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They should do a classic or X game with Legends like Gameplay.
could be fun, plus show how folks would react to L3 if it came out...
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plus show how folks would react to L3 if it came out...
People would react: "why make this [parasitic bomb] when they could have made legends3".
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true, that's true...
[tornado fang]. Why not just make another Network Transmission? seriously...
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true, that's true...
[tornado fang]. Why not just make another Network Transmission? seriously...
It was too hard for the majority of the EXE fans, since they weren't into the platformers, especially the new fans. So what makes you think they'll make another game of that sort, when the majority bitched about the difficulty that came with the platforming?
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LOL
Remake? >.>
I 'm really irritated with this trend. X(
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C'mon Capcom! Be Brave! Be brave enough to porduce X9 & DASH 3! You can't always rely on remakes.
Well except if it is Rockman 2 or 3 then that would be another story. *cheesy*
With the right promotional scheme I know you can do it...someday :)
It was too hard for the majority of the EXE fans, since they weren't into the platformers, especially the new fans. So what makes you think they'll make another game of that sort, when the majority bitched about the difficulty that came with the platforming?
They can add VERY EASY Mode? 8D
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It was too hard for the majority of the EXE fans, since they weren't into the platformers, especially the new fans. So what makes you think they'll make another game of that sort, when the majority bitched about the difficulty that came with the platforming?
They will suck it the [tornado fang] up and take their Megaman game like a good little audience.
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true, that's true...
[tornado fang]. Why not just make another Network Transmission? seriously...
Is a fan of both the "hobby" and side-scrolling Megaman games, I must say that I really like this idea.
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If you can't get kids into platformer games aimed to kids and/or nostalgia fans like half the people here, then you won't get the FPS and Sony crowds into megaman because they are mature gamers that play mature games like themselves, unless MML3 plays like Bayonetta.
In before Zone of the Enders
Megaman May Cry it is, then. XD
Roll and Tron in leather outfits, Trigger shooting off cheesy lines, ah, that'd be funny.
Nah, really, I don't know how you'd go about mainstreaming Megaman. Perhaps it's more about the art and setting than the genre.
I've never played ZoE. Just like I never sat down long enough to finish LoZ:OoT nor have I played Valkyria Chronicles.
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They can add VERY EASY Mode? 8D
Then they'll complain about the game being too easy because they never try any other mode.
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Is a fan of both the "hobby" and side-scrolling Megaman games, I must say that I really like this idea.
So do I
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Network Transmission really put an interesting spin on platforming. It was too long and structured to be as fun as a Classic MM or MMX game, though. But that's just me, because except for ZX and Tails' Adventure, Metroidvanias bore me.
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I just weish that weren't all that focused on money, I would love to had played DASH3 or X9 but Inafune and his team need money to make that happen and if only he didn't have to worry about money and executive meddling, he would have full creative control over the project and we would finally have a good quality Megaman game again. It is too early for an EXE remake and EXE needs to left alone for a little while before the remake thing happens, I will still wait for a ZX3 as well as DASH but Capcom why aren't willing to take a risk with Megaman and create for us the long desired sequels we waiting for?
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In soviet Capcom, Rockman DASH designs development teams
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I refuse to believe! I refuse!
Why would he be playing a game in development "for fun"? It'd be for testing if anything. Also, the quote makes it seem like a personal project. Also also, I am probably in denial.
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(http://i27.tinypic.com/53tus5.jpg)
Still have to wait next month for full details.
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Yup, it's looking to be a remake:
This teaser for next month’s issue, which was posted on 2ch (http://jfk.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/handygrpg/1246769080/129), specifically says that the legendary title “EXE1″ will be appearing on the DS this winter as a fusion of cards and action RPG. More details will naturally come out next month.
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Is EXE1 really that legendary? I haven't been around during the time the MMBN series started so I don't know how much it got hyped.
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It was hyped fair enough. Game's good, just a little underraited in some cases when the fourth game came out.
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Makes me wonder if they're gonna end up "remaking" all of the EXE entries on the DS at some point. After all, this is Capcom, they like to milk.
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It would almost certainly seem that way if they're remaking BN1.
But so soon? And, remember, BN1 was drastically different from the other BN games, so this could, could, just be a one-shot remake.
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Is EXE1 really that legendary? I haven't been around during the time the MMBN series started so I don't know how much it got hyped.
Well, I know the diehard fans screamed foul the moment they heard about it. Then again, some of them did the same for the Zero series change in style, so they were a finicky bunch.
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Is EXE1 really that legendary? I haven't been around during the time the MMBN series started so I don't know how much it got hyped.
I don't remember how I found out about it. Probably either Planet Megaman or GameFAQs.
But yes, BN1 started the whole series, and for Capcom, it's legendary in terms of being a source of easy remake revenue since Starforce (more or less) flopped. Of course, BN6 was where SF1-3 are in terms of marketing awareness.
Either way, BN1 had a fully-connected internet (16 non-distinguishable areas), 15 chips to choose from instead of 10, the rough draft for the Program Advance system, had a lot of the most favored and future-repeated NetNavis in the same game, etc.
Personally, I think they just want to say ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US again, but that's just me.
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It was one of the first Gameboy Advance games. It was visually impressive. It had a fun, original battle system and it recycled the characters from the classic games to make them go with the times, and it worked.
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16 non-distinguishable areas
Hey, I can distinguish them.
15 chips to choose from instead of 10
Yeah, they should bring that system back, only don't reset the chips back to 5 after you use some. Come on, isn't waiting a turn enough of a sacrifice? And you should be able to buy all elemental armors AND styles! Do you think that makes it too easy? Then just make all the enemies a bigger pain to fight!
And there should be a quest to earn the Bass chip so you don't have to trade with anybody or get into some one-time tournament somewhere or cheat just to get 100% completion.
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Hey, I can distinguish them.
I, err, well, generally speaking! >^<
Internet Area 14 as opposed to Electopia Area 2. Or something.
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MMBn1 was an okay game with potential but MMBN2 was the game I felt had the right balance although the fact that it didn't have a true ifully connected nternet was okay as the maps of the first game confused me. While MMBN2 was better game than the first, the world of MMBN1 was much more alive and since Capcom has a track record of making sequels with the same graphics, the later MMBN games felt even more dry as the series went on.