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Title: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on May 03, 2009, 04:30:49 AM
Apparently, there is a huge Pokemon video game announcement coming on May 10th during the Japanese variety show, "Pokemon Sunday". It's believed to be so by the fandom due to the large party balls colored gold and silver respectively on the ceiling of the show's set. More info to support this rumor being more than just that include CoroCoro and Nintendo Dream magazines having a big title to disclose right around that same time frame.

Credit for this information goes to GAF for bringing it to my attention and Bulbagarden (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Major_Pok%C3%A9mon_game_to_be_announced_this_month) for breaking the story.

So then RPM? What say you? 8)

*MOD POWER ABUSE - As of May 7, 2009, this is confirmed to be real! - MOD POWER ABUSE*
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Rad Lionheart on May 03, 2009, 04:35:17 AM
I don't seem to have anything to say other than "Cool" it seems.
Really can't think of anything else that expresses how I feel about it.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Jericho on May 03, 2009, 04:36:58 AM
Understandable. Meanwhile, as I've said in the past, this was the only game that could make me a Poke series follower again. It happened, and now my Typhlugia combo get to PWN again. XD
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Sub Tank on May 03, 2009, 04:37:27 AM
YOU ARE ALL WRONG.

THEY ARE ANNOUNCING POKEMON SNAP 2.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Rad Lionheart on May 03, 2009, 04:38:48 AM
YOU ARE ALL WRONG.

THEY ARE ANNOUNCING POKEMON SNAP 2.
NOW THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Pyro on May 03, 2009, 04:38:57 AM
YOU ARE ALL WRONG.

THEY ARE ANNOUNCING POKEMON SNAP 2.

Do NOT even joke about that!

Also, being the guy who broke the news in the other thread. All I have to say is [tornado fang] yeah!
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Jericho on May 03, 2009, 04:39:16 AM
Oh my God, Snap 2 with IR controls would be amazing. : O
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 03, 2009, 04:42:47 AM
It would be nice to finally get one not to metion long overdue...hmm if it is true I'll probably get silver since I always get the second title in the pokemon series except for Gold and Silver since I got Crystal.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Gaia on May 03, 2009, 04:43:20 AM
After FR/LG's release after the Hoenn adventures, it was safe to say after the third version of D/P, we was actually getting G/S DS.

It's also that I'm going to speculate a Y/C remake as well.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Solar on May 03, 2009, 04:50:08 AM
Well, there was evidence before already, so it's not too surprising, but it is a VERY good thing.

YOU ARE ALL WRONG.

THEY ARE ANNOUNCING POKEMON SNAP 2.


NOOOOOOOOOOO, don't make me hope for it and then crush all of my hopes D:
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: The Drunken Dishwasher on May 03, 2009, 05:01:39 AM
...

Is Pokemon Snap really THAT good? (I never played it, sorry)
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Gaia on May 03, 2009, 05:02:59 AM
I have the physical copy, why else would it be that good?
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Rad Lionheart on May 03, 2009, 05:04:53 AM
I bought Pokemon Snap for my sister's birthday last year.
Yeah, it's pretty fun.
It'd be even longer, and even more fun with today's Nintendo Wii.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Solar on May 03, 2009, 05:06:07 AM
...

Is Pokemon Snap really THAT good? (I never played it, sorry)

It's much more fun than you ever imagined photographing pokemon would be.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: The Drunken Dishwasher on May 03, 2009, 05:08:40 AM
heh.....*adds it to future VC buy list*

My interest is piqued~
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Archer on May 03, 2009, 05:10:49 AM
This better be true.

And Pokemon Snap is fun. Pity I don't have it anymore.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: HokutoNoBen on May 03, 2009, 05:15:07 AM
YOU ARE ALL WRONG.

THEY ARE ANNOUNCING POKEMON SNAP 2.

8)

Why can't it be both? The Wii could use a REALLY good Pokemon game, and a DS remake of G/S/C is inevitable.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Nexus on May 03, 2009, 05:15:56 AM
I didn't jump onto the remake bandwagon for Fire Red and Leaf Green, me being fed up with the series as is. Since I didn't play this part of the series, it doesn't seem to change my mind.  :\

Also, Pokemon Snap was awesome. A way to interact with Pokemon without battles and capturing, that wasn't such a cash-in as later attempts became. That, and the fact that a picture-taking game actually had DEPTH.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Sparky on May 03, 2009, 05:22:22 AM
I'm fully accepting of a GS remake, but just as long as they make some harmless additions to the game.

Like putting in a new haunting. I was HEARTBROKEN when they axed Pokemon Tower!  O^O
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Harruhy on May 03, 2009, 05:28:01 AM
I'm really uncertain about this... but it'd be awesome. 8U

Also, Pokemon Snap 2? That would be great too.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Bag of Magic Food on May 03, 2009, 05:48:15 AM
But if they remake all the old games, then they'll end up remaking the remakes!  It's madness I tell you!
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 03, 2009, 06:52:49 AM
Either a Gold/Silver DS remake or a fully fledged Wii Pokemon game combining all the regions would be good, thanx!
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 03, 2009, 07:02:23 AM
Either a Gold/Silver DS remake or a fully fledged Wii Pokemon game combining all the regions would be good, thanx!
So that would mean we have to get 24 gym badges, deal with 25 gym leaders, beat 18 or so eilte four members, kick the asses of 6 rivals, mop the floor with over 500 weak trainers, defeat 4 evil organizations, save the world like 2 times, catch 493 or more pokemon, pulverize 600 Magikarps, and maim 200 pikachus!  O^O

If I got something wrong I'm sorry and I suck at math.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Satoryu on May 03, 2009, 07:11:00 AM
i'd be fine with just a 3D combo of GSC. but i think that's too rich of an idea for Ninty to think up. they're probably going to stick with the archaic system still used by DPP. sure they keep adding features and mons in each generation, but Pokemon has yet to truly evolve for me (pun not intended). a full fledged 3D Pokemon would do just that for me. cause as it is right now, i don't think i'll ever touch a 2D Pokemon again.

also, [tornado fang] YES to Snap 2.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 03, 2009, 07:18:19 AM
Well, with all the little hints here and there in both the anime and games, I'm really not surprised.
Though fighting the 16 gym leaders, and THE champion... owo
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: STM on May 03, 2009, 09:15:02 AM
(http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/5715/000843.jpg)

I'll just leave this picture from Pokemon Sunday announcing an exclusive premier announce on next week's show here...
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 03, 2009, 09:17:40 AM
I really do love that Chimchar & Lucario are just standing there all perfectly normal and stuff.  Heh, those plucky Japanese.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 03, 2009, 09:24:53 AM
CHIMCHAR USE FLAME WHEEL
LUCARIO USE AURA SPHERE
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 03, 2009, 10:47:59 AM
A G/S remake would be [tornado fang]ing awesome... I just hope the soundtrack is better than FR/LG; It just didn't have that epic feeling like the original did. D:
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: VixyNyan on May 03, 2009, 02:51:21 PM
I see no one mentioning Hey You! Pikachu...

The announcement should be about Hey You! Eevee~ <3

Oh and yea, Pokemon Snap is a wonderful experience for photo-capturing. ^^
Title: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmed!
Post by: Jericho on May 03, 2009, 07:40:51 PM
From GAF:

Quote from: Wii Will Rock U
I can confirm to you all that this announcement is indeed a Gold and Silver remake as I JUST heard news of it from my buddy in Treehouse who has known for a while and while I knew (and actually told through PM a few people on GAF) I feel as though now is as good of a time as any to let everyone know.

Release is Late 2009 Japan release, Spring 2010 America.

Also, expect an announcement soon after E3 of a new Wii based Pokemon game compatible with these new games as well as Platinum.

I am inquiring for the PM itself, but since everyone should already know that Treehouse loves GAF (back from the Brawl days), this is all the confirmation I need. Also, the bolded is highly interested. Maybe it might be Snap 2 afterall? 8D
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: VixyNyan on May 03, 2009, 07:44:51 PM
"Hey You! Eevee" or nothing...!

But I'm still excited~ >U<

I'd also love a Pokemon Stadium 3. :3

Oh god, remake of Gold & Silver! Oh Johto, I missed you so much~
Let's hope we can collect 16 badges and meet Red again. ^^
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: TeaOfJay on May 03, 2009, 07:46:51 PM
[tornado fang] yes.

Silver and Gold were my all time favorites of the series. Seriously, the Pokemon looked awesome and the Rival actually made you hate him and didn't make you feel bad when you named him after various explitives.

I say again, [tornado fang] yes. And I haven't even seen the other announcement yet.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: VixyNyan on May 03, 2009, 07:47:48 PM
I think they should add the ability to catch Celebi, just like I was able to do legally on the Japanese Crystal. :3
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: TeaOfJay on May 03, 2009, 07:50:14 PM
OH GOD. I just had a thought.

If Nintendo is going to be remaking Gold and Silver, then there's a chance that they're going to be remaking Crystal as well.

In fact, I bet that's exactly what they're going to do.

...Regardless, I'll buy the Silver remake when it comes out.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Akira on May 03, 2009, 07:52:17 PM
"Hey You! Eevee" or nothing...!

But I'm still excited~ >U<

I'd also love a Pokemon Stadium 3. :3

Oh god, remake of Gold & Silver! Oh Johto, I missed you so much~
Let's hope we can collect 16 badges and meet Red again. ^^

XD nyah!

Yus ! I need a Remake!!!!!  >w<, I love Pokemon G/S/C are my favourite!
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Music ( D/P/P Style)

Gold/Silver Remake - Kanto Gymleader
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ocRU7ORaDA&feature=channel_page

Johto Gym Leader Remix D/P Style
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW7ZQCWuT6g&feature=channel

Gold/Silver Remake - Battle! Trainer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH77eNRKjYA&feature=channel


Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: HokutoNoBen on May 03, 2009, 07:54:08 PM
I think they should add the ability to catch Celebi, just like I was able to do legally on the Japanese Crystal. :3

It would be about time.

I also hope that this would be the time that they take in order to fully flesh out the storyline that was just....dropped by like the end of G/S. The whole Team Rocket, Red-haired Bastard/Rival and Giovanni angle deserved much better than that.

And with the hints that were shed in the last few games....well, why not?  :) 
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 03, 2009, 07:58:09 PM
Well, well.
This is very promising.
Still, hanging on just in case. XD
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Jericho on May 03, 2009, 08:01:15 PM
Seriously can we declare this gen to be on par with some of the finer ones now? Between this, TMNT IV HDRemix, and MM9, there aren't a lot of wildcards left. XD

[spoiler]STARTROPICS & STAR FOX NEXT YOU NINTENDO FUCKERS! SEGA, JET SET RADIO BY PLATINUM! XD[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Akira on May 03, 2009, 08:02:56 PM
I think they should add the ability to catch Celebi, just like I was able to do legally on the Japanese Crystal. :3

Yus >w< (Crystal)

(http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn194/Akira_Corp/6550.jpg)
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: VixyNyan on May 03, 2009, 08:15:20 PM
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/pokemoncrystalmobile.png)

Yes! Mobile Adapter, you were the best connectivity ever, along with Mario Kart Advance! XD
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Solar on May 03, 2009, 08:26:40 PM
From GAF:

No surprise honestly. The fact that the DS games already had Johto as a region programmed in them should've been more than enough proof that it was planned already.

Also, Pokemon Stadium 3 please, not another Battle Revolution.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: SoulAnimal on May 03, 2009, 08:41:48 PM
Well , News for all of you.

GOLD + SILVER REMAKES WILL COME OUT!
Proof:
 - They did a R/G Remake , Whats next? G/S duh!
 - They need something new to come out after explorers of sky
 - ( addition to last one ) They need a game to come out that doesnt introduce a bagillion pokemon
 - ALOT of fans on pokemon forums have been asking
 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9jcg3YOQI0&feature=related (boxart)
 -Something that was introduced in G/S/C and returned in D/P/Plat is Day + Night
 -Honey in Sinnoh is similar to headbutt form jhoto
 -The Red Gyarados , from G/S/C , was mentioned at the start of D/P/Plat.
 - Your Rival can be battled 2ce a week on certain days , just like G/S/C
 -Gold and Silver Introduced Umbreon and Espeon , Daimond and Pearl Introduced Glaceon and Leafeon

 MOST IMPORTANT FACT:
 -~Deep Game Hackers have found location data of jhoto form D/P/Plat. AND Battle Revolution
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 03, 2009, 08:43:51 PM
But none of that is proof.


I mean I still expect remakes to come out soon, but nothing you just posted actually proves anything.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Jericho on May 03, 2009, 08:44:33 PM
SoulAnimal, I appreciate the enthusiasm, but the whole point of the thread IS to inform everyone that the game is coming out, not to add speculation to everything. -u-'
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: TeaOfJay on May 03, 2009, 08:47:07 PM
I'm surprised you let "2ce" pass, Jericho.

Yeah, that's a good list of reasons, but that proves NOTHING. A lot of fans have been asking for Namco X Capcom, and that hasn't come out in English yet.

Oh, and I think this proves it's coming out more than your list, SoulAnimal. (http://i40.tinypic.com/6gac9h.png)
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: VixyNyan on May 03, 2009, 08:49:13 PM
Remember, the Johto anime opening was singing the words "Golden Sun" and "Silver Moon".
And later changed it to "Golden Smile" and "Silver Tears".

Think about that~ 8D
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Sparky on May 03, 2009, 09:05:20 PM
The games could most likely be Gold and Silver remakes, because the Johto location data is in DP's coding, as seen from these hacked pokemon.

(http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/4/45/ChikoritaJohto2.PNG)
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: TeaOfJay on May 03, 2009, 09:09:55 PM
You know, now I feel dumb.

I've been using Pokesav for a while now, and I should have been able to pick up the fact that Jhoto was listed under the "Home" option when making a Pokemon.

Well, I guess that means that the Pokesav that works on Platinum will work on these new games, hopefully.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: SoulAnimal on May 03, 2009, 09:15:29 PM
The games could most likely be Gold and Silver remakes, because the Johto location data is in DP's coding, as seen from these hacked pokemon.

(http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/4/45/ChikoritaJohto2.PNG)

Yeah thats what im saying , they hacked em up , so most likely...

Anyways , Sorry you guys for posting that last thing , i just HAD to say all of that relates to jhoto a bit ,
and yes , they arent facts , just theory stuff? idk , i'll edit it , just tell me what to edit
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 03, 2009, 09:56:25 PM
Quote
Also, expect an announcement soon after E3 of a new Wii based Pokemon game compatible with these new games as well as Platinum.

To be honest, this interests me a little bit more than the Gold/Silver remake.  Mainly because I'm really hoping that it is a full fledged Wii Pokemon game.  See, here is my personal desired Wii Pokemon Game:

-A typical Pokemon style adventure that spans throughout every region, not just another Pokemon Stadium
-Make new region, since we'll need a starting point before unlocking the ability to go to the other regions in the game
-Obviously obvious connectivity between the Wii & DS/DSi, which would be obvious
-Keep the Pokemon Stadium aspect, just make it like a Battle Tower/Island/Etc., like they do in reg. Pokemon games
-Make a Pokemon Channel similar to Mario Kart Channel, for potential lagless online battling
-Customizable Trainers, similar to Pokemon Battle Revolution.  If not this, than the ability to use your Mii as your trainer, but deck him in Poke Outfits
-You choose your starter Pokemon out of all except Legendaries (I mean, I'm only picking Cyndaquil anyway, but I figure others want different choices)
(This next one is really pushing it)
-Allow for 2 Player Co-OP.  I mean, this series is all about making friends and battling each other and all that, so why not make it possible where you and your bestest best friend can go through the entire game together, or simply make separate save data & separate modes I.E. Single & Double Player, or something like that

I think that's about everything I can think of off the top of my head.  8D
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Acid on May 03, 2009, 09:57:24 PM
POKEMON NEEDS REAL-TIME BATTLES.

GODDAMNIT.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Satoryu on May 03, 2009, 10:00:38 PM
PB, i agree with everything you said, save for the last one. but that's because i have much hate for 2-on-2 battles.

also, your second note might not be necessary. i really want to see GSC get this treatment.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Jericho on May 03, 2009, 10:01:14 PM
@Acid - That and actual terrain influenced battles. I wanna tell my Pikachu to jump a Rhydon after climbing up a hill and hit it's drill too dammit. XD

PB - What you suggested would be labeled a Class 1 terrorist weapon, just because civilization & Japan would end as we knew them. XD
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 03, 2009, 10:06:24 PM
PB, i agree with everything you said, save for the last one. but that's because i have much hate for 2-on-2 battles.

also, your second note might not be necessary. i really want to see GSC get this treatment.

I think 2 on 2 battles would be better with another person, rather than one trainer using 2 Pokemon.  That's just me though.

And I doubt they would start Gold/Silver anywhere but Johto
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: HokutoNoBen on May 03, 2009, 10:13:36 PM
@Acid - That and actual terrain influenced battles. I wanna tell my Pikachu to jump a Rhydon after climbing up a hill and hit it's drill too dammit. XD

Dynamic combat would definitely be something I could stand to see. Even a small, SRPG-like aspect like "height" advantage, and terrain would be nice starts.

Quote
PB - What you suggested would be labeled a Class 1 terrorist weapon, just because civilization & Japan would end as we knew them. XD

This is indeed true.  8D

My MaChamp awaits new challenges and to go on a tour of Johto, where his grandfather and I kicked much ass. I can't wait either...  0v0

Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 03, 2009, 10:19:57 PM
-You choose your starter Pokemon out of all except Legendaries (I mean, I'm only picking Cyndaquil anyway, but I figure others want different choices)
Wait you mean we can choose anything besides Legendaries and evolve forms right?
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Jericho on May 03, 2009, 10:22:36 PM
I just want my Lugia & Typhlosion again. So much ass was kicked between the two of them, especially with Lugia's Aeroblast, which I lovingly nicknamed "Shell #13" back in the height of my Toonami/Outlaw Star/Video Game influenced childhood. XD
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 03, 2009, 10:24:26 PM
WOBBUFFET FOR STARTER OF THE YEAR.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 03, 2009, 10:26:45 PM
I wonder how many people would start with a Magikarp. XD  Anyway I would start with a Absol in most of the regions I probably wouldn't have much of a problem using such a pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: TeaOfJay on May 03, 2009, 10:35:51 PM
PB, all those ideas sound AWESOME.

But I think it might take a while to do, unless Nintendo would release regions via DLC for free or reasonably low prices (50 Wii points, 150 wii points at MAX).

Other than that, that'd be an awesome Pokemon game to play.

I doubt anyone would start with a Magikarp, but it would be interesting starting with a Pokemon that's an odd type (Ghost, Steel).

You should add that if you start off with Pikachu (Or any other small Pokemon like it), you get the opition of it following you around like in Yellow.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 03, 2009, 10:40:20 PM
You should add that if you start off with Pikachu (Or any other small Pokemon like it), you get the opition of it following you around like in Yellow.
You know I wonder how much harder it would be to find a Light Ball.  Oh well it doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: HokutoNoBen on May 03, 2009, 10:41:16 PM
You should add that if you start off with Pikachu (Or any other small Pokemon like it), you get the opition of it following you around like in Yellow.

See, I always had a problem with such a thing.

Why should it only be the "small and cute" Pokes that get such a privelege?

I mean, if I want to have any one of my usual pimps outside and following me around (Machamp, the Totodile family, the Charmander family, etc.), why shouldn't I be allowed to?

If nothing else, it would be cool to see these guys actually do more to use the likes of Strength, Cut, Surf and etc, while they're on the overworld with me. And those who could fly could trail behind me while I ride a bike!  0v0
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Jericho on May 03, 2009, 10:42:38 PM
Having a Dragonite follow your avatar character around would be amazing for me. XD
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 03, 2009, 10:43:13 PM
See, I always had a problem with such a thing.

Why should it only be the "small and cute" Pokes that get such a privelege?

I mean, if I want to have any one of my usual pimps outside and following me around (Machamp, the Totodile family, the Charmander family, etc.), why shouldn't I be allowed to?

If nothing else, it would be cool to see these guys actually do more to use the likes of Strength, Cut, Surf and etc, while they're on the overworld with me. And those who could fly could trail behind me while I ride a bike!  0v0
Yeah I would love to have my Absol follow me around.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: TeaOfJay on May 03, 2009, 10:44:29 PM
Ben, you got a point.

I just figured the whole "Small Pokemon only" would be a nice throw back to Pokemon Yellow and seems like something that would actually be done.

I agree that having any Pokemon follow you around is nice, but having a Wailord try to follow you on land is a bit much.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 03, 2009, 10:47:57 PM
Another thing that I think would kick ass...a picture book, of sorts.  What I think would be cool would be similar to Soul Calibur IV's character creation model, in which after you've created your character, you have like 5-6 poses of them.  I think it'd be cool if next to your posing character, you had a picture book of every Pokemon, each Pokemon can have 5-6 poses of their own, you can pose them with you and take pictures of said poses to send across to your Wii lil' buddies, ala Smash Bros Brawl data.

For example:
-PB in Pose 1 with Cyndaquil on his shoulder.
-PB in Pose 3 (dramatic pointing pose) with Cyndaquil using Flamethrower.

Come on...you can't tell me that THAT wouldn't be Super Fuckin' Effective!  8D
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Jericho on May 03, 2009, 10:55:41 PM
Addendum, taking pictures of funny events that happen in the world with you in the starring role for massive WiiConnect24 profit.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 03, 2009, 11:05:54 PM
(http://oekaki.rockmanpm.com/pictures/rpm111.png)

Just think that, but with him possibly using Flamethrower on my face, for funny hijinx and such!   8D
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: HokutoNoBen on May 03, 2009, 11:12:13 PM
Ben, you got a point.

I just figured the whole "Small Pokemon only" would be a nice throw back to Pokemon Yellow and seems like something that would actually be done.

I agree that having any Pokemon follow you around is nice, but having a Wailord try to follow you on land is a bit much.

Maybe for certain Pokemon, unfortunately, such would have to be the case.

But still, I think the time is right to actually make it so at least the majority of the cast has their own, individual, overworld sprites/models that can either be in towns, or follow you around.

I mean, for goodness sake, it's not like they put that much in the way of innovation into each game, such "details" like this are certainly feasible for the area of "nice new perks".
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: VixyNyan on May 03, 2009, 11:12:24 PM
Just think that, but with him possibly using Flamethrower on my face, for funny hijinx and such!   8D

My little Purity wouldn't be so violent though. Just a chin-rub is all you need. ^^

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/vixy/origins/vixychaneeveechan.jpg) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/vixy/origins/vixychaneeveechan.jpg)
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Bag of Magic Food on May 04, 2009, 01:53:39 AM
How about a Pokemon+RockMan.EXE crossover?  That's how you could sneak real-time and terrain into there.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Gaia on May 04, 2009, 01:59:03 AM
At least my good 'ol Scyther won't be left out, we've been kickin' shell since R/uB/jG/Y. But noneoftheless, having having a Pokemon/Rockman EXE crossover having to sneak real-time and terrain, would most likely reveal the Shin Rockman in the process.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Solar on May 04, 2009, 02:57:36 AM
Remember, the Johto anime opening was singing the words "Golden Sun" and "Silver Moon".
And later changed it to "Golden Smile" and "Silver Tears".

Think about that~ 8D

You know, I like both Golden Sun/Golden Smile and Silver Moon/Silver Tears, but I say that it should be Golden Sky and Silver Sea. It'd actually fit better you know :P
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: VixyNyan on May 04, 2009, 03:03:18 AM
Send a note to Game Freak/Creatures/Pokemon Company. Hopefully they'll accept it. :3

Ho-oh flies in the skies, and Lugia swims in the sea. It can't be more obvious than that. ^^
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Solar on May 04, 2009, 05:00:45 AM
I just remembered what my favorite/one of my favorite things about GSC. A mystery gift that you could actually use and that didn't require you to go to a Nintendo event *gasp*

It actually gave me a reason to play everyday just to see if I'd get an awesome furniture or at least an awesome item. Is anyone else hoping that they actually keep that in the game?
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Post by: Pyro on May 04, 2009, 06:25:24 AM
I just remembered what my favorite/one of my favorite things about GSC. A mystery gift that you could actually use and that didn't require you to go to a Nintendo event *gasp*

That's why we have the Nintendo WFC. Took me a couple hours to remember that I could get the Secret Key that way instead of having o go to an event.

Hopefully we'll be able to get Celebi that way, although I never cared much for that "unobtainable" Pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Solar on May 04, 2009, 06:28:02 AM
That's why we have the Nintendo WFC.

And it only took them, what, 3 years to actually use it? Besides, I really prefer the old mystery gift. It'd be great if they combined the two.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 04, 2009, 09:54:20 AM
If I can finally get all the events, bring it on.
If not, RAGE.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Hypershell on May 06, 2009, 01:00:03 AM
You know, now I feel dumb.

I've been using Pokesav for a while now, and I should have been able to pick up the fact that Jhoto was listed under the "Home" option when making a Pokemon.
*facepalms*  How the crap did I miss that?!

Well, I saw this one coming.  I gather Nintendo is trying to make the GBA-exclusive 'mans more available, given the DSi's release, and the Kanto birds were already added into Platinum while none of the Johto Legends can yet be obtained without importing.

Hopefully along this trend there will be more than JUST Johto legendary 'mans (always looking for more Mewtwo lovin').

16 badges, Champion, KANTO GYM LEADER REMIX, and God willing, the return of the lost Crystal version Extremespeed Dragonite.  I'll definitely be keeping my eye on this one.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Sparky on May 06, 2009, 01:18:48 AM
The one thing I'm just hoping for is that they redeem the loss of Pokemon Tower, albeit with a Poltergeist-esque scenario at the Radio Tower.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 06, 2009, 01:27:59 AM
The one thing I'm just hoping for is that they redeem the loss of Pokemon Tower, albeit with a Poltergeist-esque scenario at the Radio Tower.

You and your Ghost fetish. >_>
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Legendary on May 06, 2009, 05:18:37 AM
Screw the haunts. If they go through with this they need to fix what they got wrong before.

Long live Fighting Dojo, beatches!
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Sparky on May 06, 2009, 05:57:04 AM
If they go through with this they need to fix what they got wrong before.

Like adding in a haunting. Seriously, Johto is the only region without one. If not revive the tower, tuck a new yet-insignificant haunting somewhere, like how the Old Chateau was in DP.

Quote
Long live Fighting Dojo, beatches!

 Fighting types can't lay a finger on ghosts. >_>
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Solar on May 06, 2009, 06:13:47 AM
If not revive the tower, tuck a new yet-insignificant haunting somewhere, like how the Old Chateau was in DP.

Insignificant, yet it was great. It actually spooked me at night, alone, I'm easy to scare >_> Something like that would be awesome.

Nothing will ever beat the original Lavander Town though, that town scared you from the very moment you set foot on it with its music. I think it may have traumatized me as a child.

Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Sparky on May 06, 2009, 06:16:50 AM
Insignificant, yet it was great. It actually spooked me at night, alone, I'm easy to scare >_> Something like that would be awesome.

Nothing will ever beat the original Lavander Town though, that town scared you from the very moment you set foot on it with its music. I think it may have traumatized me as a child.

Yeah, and it was a shame as to how they lightened up the song in Gold and Silver. If they're gonna make a new haunting in this, they should make it an underground crypt somewhere, and personally I think it should be under the Burnt Tower, deeper down than where the Legendary Beasts rest.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Solar on May 06, 2009, 06:19:17 AM
Yeah, actually, the Burnt Tower was the PERFECT location for a new haunted place. Too bad they wasted their chance =/
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Sparky on May 06, 2009, 06:21:14 AM
Yeah, actually, the Burnt Tower was the PERFECT location for a new haunted place. Too bad they wasted their chance =/

What makes it even worse is that in the game Morty states how he regularly sees ghosts there, yet no Ghost-types are even encountered. Just Koffings and Magmars.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Solar on May 06, 2009, 06:21:51 AM
There were Magmars in there? Man, my memory sure fails me XD
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Waifu on May 06, 2009, 06:32:59 AM
Man, this is going to be awesome and it going to be for the DS. I hope that they don't have that fashion show in this game because I play for the battles and that is just me.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 06, 2009, 07:06:58 AM
Hahaha what kind of attitude is that? You want them to remove completely optional minigames just because you don't like them? What's next, players shouldn't be able to put any pokemon you don't like on their team?
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: STM on May 06, 2009, 08:04:39 AM
The tourneyfags already think that way.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Jericho on May 06, 2009, 08:06:24 AM
That reminds me, what is RPM's Pokecommunity like online?
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 06, 2009, 08:06:50 AM
The tourneyfags already think that way.

Then what the hell are tiers for?
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 06, 2009, 08:07:30 AM
That reminds me, what is RPM's Pokecommunity like online?

Pretentious Buttfuckers!  Every last one of them!   8D
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: STM on May 06, 2009, 08:10:34 AM
Then what the hell are tiers for?
"You can only use certain pokemon in certain levels. If you don't then I won't play with you cause you're a stupid doo-doo head."

That in a nutshell.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 06, 2009, 08:14:02 AM
That reminds me, what is RPM's Pokecommunity like online?

Hypershell seems competent, I'm not, those other two guys I had matches with weren't either (Sorry guys!). I've got no clue about anyone else.


"You can only use certain pokemon in certain levels. If you don't then I won't play with you cause you're a stupid doo-doo head."

That in a nutshell.

Setting up specific banlists just so pokemon that normally wouldn't be used have a chance to see the light of day seems like it's trying to encourage varied pokemon use to me, dude.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Pringer X on May 06, 2009, 08:42:54 AM
I kind of don't get why everyone's going "ZOMG GS REMAKES!!!!111lol1!". I mean, sure, we may actually be able to legally obtain Celebi, but at this point, I don't think a lot of people care. I'd only be hyped if they're remaking it once the 5th gen comes up, and they put 5th gen Pokemon in it. THAT seems worth it.

As far as getting Pokemon goes, in some way, shape, or form, you can now catch or get them without the use of a GS remake, and thanks to WFC, if you need a particular Pokemon, just ask and get it. I can see a use for getting TM's that are somewhat rare or hard to find or something, but there's already a cloning glitch out there, and WFC again trumps the point since you can just ask for a particular TM.

If they remake GS and put 5th gen Pokemon in it, as well as increase the relative map size to include Hoenn and/or Sinnoh, and allow Celebi to be caught, I wouldn't mind and in some ways be excited (I stopped playing Pokemon awhile ago, so that's kind of a shocker). It would have even more things to do than before, and it would be pretty fun.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: STM on May 06, 2009, 09:38:11 AM
Hypershell seems competent, I'm not, those other two guys I had matches with weren't either (Sorry guys!). I've got no clue about anyone else.


Setting up specific banlists just so pokemon that normally wouldn't be used have a chance to see the light of day seems like it's trying to encourage varied pokemon use to me, dude.
"Well, we're going great, got a good winning season, but I see I haven't played everyone on the bench. I'll just bench some of my better players to give the others that aren't so good a turn in the field! What could go wrong?"

Sounds like little-league management to me. I'll stick with one set of pokemon I like that are designed to complement each other, packing good strength, regardless of their "tier" position. If they don't like it, too bad. I've gotten so many disconnectors just because I sent out a Darkrai and began putting everyone to sleep for an unholy sweep. It's not like Darkrai's that much of a threat to begin with.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 06, 2009, 10:15:33 AM
So what, you think if someone happens to like low tier pokemon and wants to use them they should just suck up losing until the people who are playing with good ones decide to handicap themselves for the sake of a more fair fight? I'm just gonna stick with playing with tiers so I don't need to rely on people taking sympathy on me for me to have a chance of winning.

And what do you expect when you send out Darkrai against a standard team? You expect people to hang around when you've just sent out something which is pretty much guaranteed to cripple or kill their half their guys before they can stop it? Try using pokemon that people can actually fight back against and maybe they'll hang around longer.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: SoulAnimal on May 06, 2009, 12:33:02 PM
And what do you expect when you send out Darkrai against a standard team? You expect people to hang around when you've just sent out something which is pretty much guaranteed to cripple or kill their half their guys before they can stop it? Try using pokemon that people can actually fight back against and maybe they'll hang around longer.
Okay , first of all this is just pokemon , and second of all its a game. So I actually dont run from cheaters and better-then-average pokemon. I mean really , Isnt it better to have fought and loss then to be a whimp and run? Also its good to use strong pokemon , it does mean your a smart enough trainer to level up one.
And yes. I also too have a few legends on my main party...
Darkrai (GTS)
Groudon (Transfer from Ruby)
Giratina (Spring Path)

Empoleon(gift from friend Joe)
Torterra( Starter)
Staraptor(1rst thing i ever caught)
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: STM on May 06, 2009, 03:59:39 PM
Legendaries really aren't as hard to kill as everyone makes them out to be. Most of them have crippling flaws and any normal can take them out with a good fake-out strategy. I only use two or three legendaries on my team currently (Zapdos, Darkrai and Manaphy) with Infernape, Alakazam and Umbreon being the other usual three (but others are available I can switch to without warning.) No EV training going on here, so I'm sure someone who cares enough to do that garbage can easily dispatch my team... but oh my, how would they ever know if they're too cowardly and throw red flags because I don't play by their rules? It's a pitiful as when people complain that I pick a "banned" stage in Brawl or play with items/final smashes on. Just shut up and play the game.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Satoryu on May 06, 2009, 06:54:20 PM
I kind of don't get why everyone's going "ZOMG GS REMAKES!!!!111lol1!". I mean, sure, we may actually be able to legally obtain Celebi, but at this point, I don't think a lot of people care. I'd only be hyped if they're remaking it once the 5th gen comes up, and they put 5th gen Pokemon in it. THAT seems worth it.

i am in 100% disagreement with you here. because its a GSC remake, it should have the 251 Pokemon from those games, and ONLY those 251, maybe letting evolutions that were introduced later on slide by.

and i am in 2000% disagreement with waiting to add another 100 Pokemon. i'm in the minority (probably) that thinks Pokemon has gotten too big, especially when it comes to the Pokedex. there's just too many of them,a dn too many that are just lame compared to the older ones. RSE introduced a LOT of the stinkers for me. DPP handled a little better there, what with some genius ideas like Magnezone, but it still used too many animals that have already been represented.

i hate Piplup.
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Post by: Solar on May 06, 2009, 07:04:22 PM
You're definitely not in the minority, it's definitely gotten too big. I mean, there are over 500 Pokemon now and they even had to go as far as to make a (literally) god Pokemon, I dare anyone to tell me that's not too much =/

I'm of the opinion that if they want to continue Pokemon, then they have to start from 0 again. Make another 150/151 Pokemon, but leave all of the previous Pokemon out of the game because I definitely don't want to catch 600+ Pokemon =/
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Post by: Protoman Blues on May 06, 2009, 07:10:19 PM
I 100% disagree.  Pokemon is a series about collecting, as well as cute things battling to the Pokedeath.  I honestly want them to continue releasing new Pokemon, cause who knows when I'll find another 'mon to train and have battle to the Pokedeath.  If need be, don't make as many Legendaries in a game, seeing as how we've covered pretty much every aspect they can cover.
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Post by: Solar on May 06, 2009, 07:15:27 PM
I agree with you, but do you honestly want 600+ Pokemon? They can keep making new ones while keeping the number relatively small.

Also, forgot to post my reason for why a GSC remake is so important. IMO, to this day, GSC is still the best generation for a number of reasons. The number of Pokemon was just right, there were plenty of little but nice things (Mystery gift, decorating your room, catching contest, radio, making your own pokeballs,etc.), the time and date was actually used for something other than catching different pokemon during the day/night, and the big ones, you could revisit the old region, fight the Kanto gym leaders including a now gym leader Blue/Green and different leaders, and fight Red in an epic battle.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 06, 2009, 07:19:28 PM
I agree with you, but do you honestly want 600+ Pokemon?

Yes!  I want 1000+ Pokemon, if possible.  KEEP 'EM COMING!
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Post by: Jericho on May 06, 2009, 07:20:48 PM
1000 Pokemon... And I remember when I was hot [parasitic bomb] because I memorized the Pokerap in 4th grade. XD
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Post by: Protoman Blues on May 06, 2009, 07:22:21 PM
I WANNA GO TO VIRIDIAN CIIIIIIIITTTTYYYYYY!
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Post by: Jericho on May 06, 2009, 07:23:04 PM
I WANNA GO TO VIRIDIAN CIIIIIIIITTTTYYYYYY!

Oh hell yes. XD
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Solar on May 06, 2009, 07:23:04 PM
Oh man, I loved those songs.

1000 Pokemon... And I remember when I was hot [parasitic bomb] because I memorized the Pokerap in 4th grade. XD
The Pokerap? Oh man, I remember I actually memorized that once XD

Yes!  I want 1000+ Pokemon, if possible.  KEEP 'EM COMING!

But that's a nightmare for the people like me that prefer to catch 'em all instead of having the cute creatures fight to the death XD


EDIT:FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF, you guys post before me like 3 times and in the end I end up with a same time post with Jelly?! XD
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Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 06, 2009, 07:33:17 PM
Ok, after seeing all your comments on what a GSC remake should be...
I have to agree that staying true to the original 251 is the right way to go, barring the DPPt-introduced evolutions.
And I do agree that GSC was the forerunner for all the features in-game that we see today, so maybe add a bit more flavour?
One such flavour is the GS Ball. Seriously, I want to see this properly used in-game, to summon Celebi as in the original Japanese version.

As for the rest, more Pokemon is always welcomed, although the legendaries are going to be harder to think off due to the appearance of tha alpha-god Pokemon Arceus, but hey!
Gamefreak has always surprised us, maybe... Ehh... *shrugs*
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 06, 2009, 08:23:33 PM
Pokerap

CHARMELEON, WARTORTLE! 8U
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Post by: Jericho on May 06, 2009, 08:28:46 PM
CHARMELEON, WARTORTLE! 8U

MEWTWO, TENTACRUEL, AERODACTYL! OMANYTE, SLOWBRO, PIDGEOT, ARBOK...

That's all folks!

Damn, I'm a nerd. XD
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Post by: Kit on May 06, 2009, 08:34:46 PM
GSC should have the ability to go to the different lands and catch version specific ones, which I had no idea if DPP had this but i couldn't bloody tell. I do like that aspect of having to ask friends for certain ones and trading and whatnot and I couldnt tell anyway.

DPP did not really thrill me. Felt like more of an addon than anything else.

Silver FTW.
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Post by: Jericho on May 06, 2009, 08:36:32 PM
Silver FTW.

Hell yes. Silvers stand and be counted! XD
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Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 06, 2009, 08:38:57 PM
Silver FTW.

Damn straight!
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Post by: Kit on May 06, 2009, 08:43:30 PM
I mean, I like Gold but Ho-oh isn't as badass looking as Lugia is.
But I liked in Emeral that I could go to Islands and find the legendaries.

Emerald is more awesome than DPP in my opinion.
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Post by: Protoman Blues on May 06, 2009, 08:51:20 PM
MEWTWO, TENTACRUEL, AERODACTYL! OMANYTE, SLOWBRO, PIDGEOT, ARBOK...

AT LEAST ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY, OR MORE, TO SEE
TO BE A POKEMON MASTER IS MY DESTINEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
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Post by: Kit on May 06, 2009, 08:58:10 PM
Oh man...I wish I hadn't traded in my emerald...
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Post by: Protoman Blues on May 06, 2009, 09:00:33 PM
RRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVVVVEEEEE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i8tCNDTr3I)
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Post by: STM on May 06, 2009, 09:04:30 PM
I don't care if they make three thousand pokemon, they better give Dunsparce an evolution. The poor thing's pretty much been crap since GSC. Farfetch'd could also use a good smack with the ol' Darwinian stick.
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Post by: Protoman Blues on May 06, 2009, 09:05:55 PM
I don't care if they make three thousand pokemon, they better give Dunsparce an evolution. The poor thing's pretty much been crap since GSC. Farfetch'd could also use a good smack with the ol' Darwinian stick.

I support both of these, no matter how awesome Farfetch'd is for HM dumping. 
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Post by: Kit on May 06, 2009, 09:08:50 PM
They should make a really awesome baby version of Abra.
I'd seziure with orgasms.
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Post by: Gaia on May 06, 2009, 09:10:39 PM
And stop giving Evee evolutions, it has enough already (Fire, Dark, Psychic, Water, Elec, Grass, Ice). o.o;

Since Dunsparce has an item of it's own, evolve it with that item next title too. Maybe a sequel to Pokemon TCG 1+2, it's been loooonng overdue anywhoo, you skipped a generation or two.

And give Machop a baby and a female form, it's the closest thing to a human since Gardevoir.. but please make it have gender specific than having it appear the same.. X.X;
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Post by: Protoman Blues on May 06, 2009, 09:16:07 PM
And stop giving Evee evolutions, it has enough already (Fire, Dark, Psychic, Water, Elec, Grass, Ice). o.o;

YOU SHUT YOUR POKEMOUTH! 

Eevee should have EVERY possible Evolution.  EVERY ONE!  Steeleon, Poiseon, Buzzeon, Spectreon, Puncheon, Draceon, Cloudeon, Buzzeon, Sandeon, and Graveon!
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Post by: Solar on May 06, 2009, 09:17:00 PM
Now that's something I completely agree with XD
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Post by: STM on May 06, 2009, 09:17:37 PM
There's quite a few pokemon that have been completely swept undertow while others like Tangela and Rhydon were given more evolutions. Pinsir could use a Scizor like evolution, for one. Tauros is pretty much doomed, Lapras, Kangaskhan, Hypno, Persian... there's still a lot of older mons that need some boosts.

PB: And then the God Eevee with all elements and that schools the crap out of Arceus?
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Post by: VixyNyan on May 06, 2009, 09:18:03 PM
Now you know why I love my Eevee~ can turn into anything, but it's even cuter just as it is. ^^
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Post by: Gaia on May 06, 2009, 09:19:29 PM
But six is good enough for me, I was thinking of overevolving Gardevoir extra forms, as well as everyone else.. that way no two pokemon can be exactly the same.

Besides, there are more multi-forms of others 'sides Evee.. it's route's perfectly fine for my standards, not like a major one is going to come out for awhile after the GSC remake..
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Post by: Protoman Blues on May 06, 2009, 09:21:26 PM
Lapras

Now I would totally love a Baby Lapras Pokemon myself. An evolved form would be Pokenice too. 

Quote
PB: And then the God Eevee with all elements and that schools the crap out of Arceus?

WHY THE POKEFUCK NOT?  8D
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: STM on May 06, 2009, 09:25:33 PM
I think they need to cool it down on the Legendaries. There's around 35 of them now, which is slowly nearing the 10% area. Diamond and Pearl really overdid it with the amount they introduced.
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Post by: Protoman Blues on May 06, 2009, 09:27:24 PM
That's what I said too.  I really like them coming out with more and more 'Mon, but I think they really have enough Legendaries.

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Post by: Jericho on May 06, 2009, 09:27:45 PM
+1 for the Eevee should have every kind of evolution. XD
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Post by: Protoman Blues on May 06, 2009, 09:28:16 PM
....Although I wouldn't object to a Baby Articuno...
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Post by: Jericho on May 06, 2009, 09:29:22 PM
Zapdos is superior! *bricked*
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Satoryu on May 06, 2009, 10:05:48 PM
MEWTWO, TENTACRUEL, AERODACTYL! OMANYTE, SLOWBRO, PIDGEOT, ARBOK...

That's all folks!

Damn, I'm a nerd. XD

you fail at being a nerd. it's Slowpoke, you idjit.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 06, 2009, 10:55:57 PM
I mean really , Isnt it better to have fought and loss then to be a whimp and run?

No EV training going on here, so I'm sure someone who cares enough to do that garbage can easily dispatch my team... but oh my, how would they ever know if they're too cowardly and throw red flags because I don't play by their rules?

I guess most players just aren't as brave as you two. It does take supreme courage to play a video game, I guess.




What's wrong with more legendaries, by the way? I can't really see a problem with adding more. I guess it is annoying to have to keep resetting if you want one with good IVs, but that's mostly just a problem with IVs being bullshit.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: VixyNyan on May 06, 2009, 11:04:16 PM
More starters and legendaries creates more movies~
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Solar on May 06, 2009, 11:29:36 PM
What's wrong with more legendaries, by the way? I can't really see a problem with adding more. I guess it is annoying to have to keep resetting if you want one with good IVs, but that's mostly just a problem with IVs being bullshit.

It's not the stats, just look at this:
-Elemental creatures? Check.
-Man made golems of legend? Check.
-Giant of legend? Check.
-Invincible man made creature? Check.
-Ruler of the skies? Check.
-Ruler of the seas? Check.
-Aliens? Check.
-Ancestor of every living creature (pokemon actually)? Check.
-Spirit of the forest? Check.
-A wish granting creature (Jirachi)? Check.
-Whatever Rayquaza is meant to be? Check.
-Creator of the oceans? Check.
-Creator of the lands? Check.
-Creator of emotions? Check.
-Creator of intelligence? Check.
-Creator of willpower? Check.
-Moon deity or similar (Cresselia)? Check.
-Volcano deity or similar (Heatran)? Check.
-Whatever Shaymin is? Check.
-The boogeyman (closest comparison I could think for Darkrai)? Check.
-Creator of time? Check.
-Creator of space? Check.
-The devil (that's the most similar thing to Giratina)? Check.
-God? Check.

Tell me what's left for them to use =/
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 06, 2009, 11:47:32 PM
Oh, you think the creators of Pokemon can't come up with more of the things? They've made ridiculous amounts already, they can certainly manage more. [parasitic bomb], I can manage more.

Looking at your list, for example, I notice we've got two moon pokemon (Darkrai is totally moon based), but no sun one. So we start with a sun legendary. Going with the space theme, we'll go with a planet for its version mascot partner. Go along with the rule of three and put an asteroid legendary in there to fill out the trio. They may not be as impressive as a pokemon in control of time, but I suspect nobody's really going to complain.

That took me like 5 minutes to come up with, and while I wouldn't call it good, I'd still call it serviceable. A group of people who actually take some time can only do better.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Solar on May 06, 2009, 11:54:02 PM
Oh, you think the creators of Pokemon can't come up with more of the things?

I don't doubt it, it's just that it's gotten ridiculous. Besides, every gen they keep making even more powerful legendaries (I'm not talking stat wise), and they already reached God. What can they do that surpasses a god?

Looking at your list, for example, I notice we've got two moon pokemon (Darkrai is totally moon based), but no sun one.

Darkrai puts you on an eternal sleep and haunts your dreams for eternity, I don't see how that relates to the moon. Besides, they're not exactly legendary, but we've already got Solrock and Lunatone.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 07, 2009, 12:08:52 AM
Well, he only shows up when it's a new moon, and he's based around shadows, like the new moon is. Look it made sense to me alright. :(

Solrock is just a funny shaped rock, it's not really that much like some spirit of fire. Moltres is basically a phoenix, and that didn't stop them making Ho-Oh, who's basically the same, a generation later.
And are you gonna complain if the next pokemon isn't some overdeity who can create universes or something? I'm not.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Waifu on May 07, 2009, 01:19:04 AM
Also, the designs of the Pokemon are getting a bit weird especially the legendaries where they look similar (and dare I say it) Digimon and it looks strange to me.

I don't doubt it, it's just that it's gotten ridiculous. Besides, every gen they keep making even more powerful legendaries (I'm not talking stat wise), and they already reached God. What can they do that surpasses a god?

I agree especially with the God part where the Pokemon are so powerful, they can probably create their own planet and what about Clefairy
the Pokemon that supposedly brought them to Earth? Why didn't it get Legendary status? I'll stick with Mewtwo, Zapdos, Motlres, Articuno, Dragonite and Pikachu as my team and I am set for life!
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Solar on May 07, 2009, 01:25:17 AM
I agree especially with the God part where the Pokemon are so powerful, they can probably create their own planet

They already did. Earth was literally created by Pokemon in the series.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: HokutoNoBen on May 07, 2009, 01:28:16 AM
More starters and legendaries creates more movies~

True, but Lucario certainly proves as an example that breaks the rule.  He proved that a movie that could work just fine with just a nice new, shiny and non-Legendary Pokemon altogether, PLUS an already established Legendary (Mew). Lukey wasn't even a starter, and yet he was the 4th Generation Poke that we got to know the most.

So, I say we could certainly stand to do more in that vein. I agree with the overall notion that D/P/Pl over-did with Legendaries, and we could stand to see less the next go-round.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: VixyNyan on May 07, 2009, 01:32:26 AM
Lucario

I loved that movie. ^^

It's also made sure that Lucario got into Brawl. =D
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: HokutoNoBen on May 07, 2009, 01:39:43 AM
I loved that movie. ^^

It's also made sure that Lucario got into Brawl. =D

I liked "Wave-Guiding Hero", too, at least in JP.  8D

And yeah, the fact that Lucario was the 4th Gen Poke that got the most amount of play guaranteed him a spot. Basically the same thing for how Mewtwo was able to get into Melee, and even how Nyasu/Meowth was "allegedly" planned for the original game.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: VixyNyan on May 07, 2009, 03:11:18 AM
The one thing I'm just hoping for is that they redeem the loss of Pokemon Tower, albeit with a Poltergeist-esque scenario at the Radio Tower.

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Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 07, 2009, 03:31:43 AM
Not really remake related, but does anyone want an Outrage Gible? Mostly Jolly. They're not really very interesting, especially to someone with Platinum, but I was gonna release them anyway, so...
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Police Girl on May 07, 2009, 03:45:45 AM
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HAUNTER!!
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 07, 2009, 06:12:46 AM
They totally need to base a movie on Cyndaquil alone!
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 07, 2009, 06:42:34 AM
Chikorita = superior gen 2 starter.


Fact.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 07, 2009, 06:45:32 AM
(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/3848/pbakira8.png)

Pyre Heart is beyond your Vulcan logic!
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Rad Lionheart on May 07, 2009, 06:47:57 AM
I chose Charmander in Gen I, Cyndaquil in Gen II, Didn't play Gen III aside from Leaf Green/Fire Red, in which case I chose Charmander, and in Gen IV, I chose Chimchar thinking he'd be pretty good, but ended up failing so hardcore, and I ended up choosing the leafy one in Platinum, which my memory is failing right now, so I can't remember his name...


BUT FOR SO LONG I HAD PICKED THE FIRE!
I am loyal to the fire unless it sucks monkey balls.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 07, 2009, 07:22:20 AM
I remembered someone mentioning all forms of Eeveelutions.
+1 for him/her. XD
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 07, 2009, 07:32:19 AM
YOU SHUT YOUR POKEMOUTH! 

Eevee should have EVERY possible Evolution.  EVERY ONE!  Steeleon, Poiseon, Buzzeon, Spectreon, Puncheon, Draceon, Cloudeon, Buzzeon, Sandeon, and Graveon!

That was me!   8D
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 07, 2009, 07:36:51 AM
What about the ??? type?
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Blackhook on May 07, 2009, 07:42:58 AM
Who cares about that if you got the fire time  :P
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 07, 2009, 07:45:21 AM
That was me!   8D
Good for you! 8D

What about the ??? type?
To make the set complete, yes.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Solar on May 07, 2009, 07:54:14 AM
Name it Mystereon then.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: STM on May 07, 2009, 01:27:47 PM
I chose Charmander in Gen I, Cyndaquil in Gen II, Didn't play Gen III aside from Leaf Green/Fire Red, in which case I chose Charmander, and in Gen IV, I chose Chimchar thinking he'd be pretty good, but ended up failing so hardcore, and I ended up choosing the leafy one in Platinum, which my memory is failing right now, so I can't remember his name...


BUT FOR SO LONG I HAD PICKED THE FIRE!
I am loyal to the fire unless it sucks monkey balls.

Chimchar failing? The hell is wrong with you? He can take out rock, steel dark and normal types with ease (Close Combat <3.) Blaziken is a weaker fire type aside from Sky Uppercut and I guess Blaze Kick.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Kit on May 07, 2009, 04:41:39 PM
It's not the stats, just look at this:
-Elemental creatures? Check.
-Man made golems of legend? Check.
-Giant of legend? Check.
-Invincible man made creature? Check.
-Ruler of the skies? Check.
-Ruler of the seas? Check.
-Aliens? Check.
-Ancestor of every living creature (pokemon actually)? Check.
-Spirit of the forest? Check.
-A wish granting creature (Jirachi)? Check.
-Whatever Rayquaza is meant to be? Check.
-Creator of the oceans? Check.
-Creator of the lands? Check.
-Creator of emotions? Check.
-Creator of intelligence? Check.
-Creator of willpower? Check.
-Moon deity or similar (Cresselia)? Check.
-Volcano deity or similar (Heatran)? Check.
-Whatever Shaymin is? Check.
-The boogeyman (closest comparison I could think for Darkrai)? Check.
-Creator of time? Check.
-Creator of space? Check.
-The devil (that's the most similar thing to Giratina)? Check.
-God? Check.

Tell me what's left for them to use =/

The Pokegod of chocolate-covered [ray splasher]s.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Gaia on May 07, 2009, 04:45:29 PM
Oh yes, those. Palkia looks like one from above.. if you catch my drift. 8D

Any "pervy thoughts" about each one's shape? If Palkia looks like testicals from above, that makes Dialga look like a bra from above as well.. hehe.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 07, 2009, 06:05:39 PM
The Pokegod of chocolate-covered [ray splasher]s.


Chocococko shall be his name!
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Night on May 07, 2009, 06:07:15 PM
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Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Kit on May 07, 2009, 07:54:48 PM
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Post by: Akira on May 07, 2009, 09:39:56 PM
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Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: STM on May 07, 2009, 10:20:19 PM
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I had to.... FOR POKESCIENCE!
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Police Girl on May 07, 2009, 10:33:57 PM
Jeez, Haunter is everywhere now. That last one looks more sinister than the previous ones! :o
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Sparky on May 07, 2009, 11:35:08 PM
Haunter demands a new haunting in the GS remakes....or else..
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Rad Lionheart on May 07, 2009, 11:49:48 PM
Chimchar failing? The hell is wrong with you? He can take out rock, steel dark and normal types with ease (Close Combat <3.) Blaziken is a weaker fire type aside from Sky Uppercut and I guess Blaze Kick.
He failed me around every corner, so I traded 'em in for something else.
But I don't play my Diamond game anymore!

...I actually don't play Platinum much anymore either.
And never touched Pearl. :0
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 08, 2009, 12:01:06 AM
Infernape is actually pretty awesome. He's one of those bastard HAHA I GO FIRST AND INSTANTLY KILL YOU pokemon, and he can be physical or special or even both. Pretty damn awesome.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Rad Lionheart on May 08, 2009, 12:09:32 AM
Well, it's too late now! HE FAILED ME!
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 08, 2009, 12:14:16 AM
Have you considered that maybe YOU FAILED HIM?
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Rad Lionheart on May 08, 2009, 12:16:26 AM
Yeah I considered that, but I'd rather say he failed me.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: STM on May 08, 2009, 01:43:46 AM
You probably got the retard chimchar of the litter then.

Actually, compared to the original starters, the ones from the last two gens haven't been all that good. Blastoise is still too awesome.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Rad Lionheart on May 08, 2009, 04:22:02 AM
I miss Charizard.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Protodude on May 08, 2009, 04:34:07 AM
Just a heads up:It's official (http://gonintendo.com/?p=81780), Pokemon Heart Gold and Soul Silver confirmed

(http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/8563/poke12.jpg)

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Yes, it’s official now! We thought we would have to wait until Sunday for the Pokemon Sunday reveal, but that’s not the case! Both Yahoo! Japan and the official Japanese Pokemon hub site have confirmed the news. Both remakes are due to hit Japan sometime this fall.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Rad Lionheart on May 08, 2009, 04:35:18 AM
Heart Gold and Soul Silver? :0
That's a fairly neat name I suppose.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 08, 2009, 04:35:51 AM
Just a heads up:It's official (http://gonintendo.com/?p=81780)

(http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/8563/poke12.jpg)


[tornado fang] YEAH!

Can't wait to start with Cyndaquil again!

Cyndaquil FTW! <3
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Gaia on May 08, 2009, 04:43:22 AM
Woo, now I can start with Chickorita once more, such a special attack powerhouse it is~
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: HokutoNoBen on May 08, 2009, 04:45:09 AM
Totodile! You'll be seeing me again, soon!
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Harruhy on May 08, 2009, 04:46:39 AM
Cyndaquil FTW! <3

I second that.

Also, Soul Silver, hell yeah. 8U
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Rad Lionheart on May 08, 2009, 04:46:48 AM
Cyndaquil all the way! :0
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 08, 2009, 04:48:24 AM
Just to get off my mind, the Lance and Red battle theme remix better be [tornado fang]ing epic and INTENSE! 8U
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: HokutoNoBen on May 08, 2009, 04:48:43 AM
Also, Soul Silver, hell yeah. 8U

YES.

Soul Silver sounds infinitely more CRUNK than "Heart Gold".

I wonder if they'll reverse the order for the English release.

"Silver Soul" and "Gold/Golden Heart" flow much better, in my opinion.
Title: CONFIRMED. Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver on DS Holiday 2009 (JP); Q1 '10 (US)
Post by: Jericho on May 08, 2009, 04:49:04 AM
[tornado fang] yesssssss. The Typhlosion/Lugia combo shall dominate again!  8)

Also, Silver here saying [tornado fang] Golds! XD
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Harruhy on May 08, 2009, 04:49:29 AM
Red battle remix better be [tornado fang]ing epic and INTENSE! 8U

That's gonna be awesome.

Also, Heart and Soul? Isn't that an Ikkitousen song? <_>
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Rad Lionheart on May 08, 2009, 04:50:38 AM
I'll pick Gold over Silver. >:0
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 08, 2009, 04:51:38 AM
I'm so [tornado fang]ing happy right now, I'm getting both!

I'll just be playing Silver more than Gold. >>;
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Harruhy on May 08, 2009, 04:52:25 AM
I'm so [tornado fang]ing happy right now, I'm getting both!

I'll probably do the same. I mean... it's Pokémon Gold and Silver, who wouldn't? >_>
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 08, 2009, 04:53:05 AM
I'll probably do the same. I mean... it's Pokémon Gold and Silver, who wouldn't? >_>

So [tornado fang]ing true. 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on May 08, 2009, 04:58:56 AM
Technically I won't spend a penny on either, and have both available, but play Gold, cause that's what I played back in the day.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Harruhy on May 08, 2009, 04:59:44 AM
Technically I won't spend a penny on either, and have both available, but play Gold, cause that's what I played back in the day.

You won't spend money on Pokémon G/S remakes? Seriously? -__-
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on May 08, 2009, 05:01:43 AM
I don't have any money to be spending on Pokemons I will play for a few nights, then stop abruptly. D:
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 08, 2009, 05:01:54 AM
You won't spend money on Pokémon G/S remakes? Seriously? -__-

Sparky comes to mind. 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on May 08, 2009, 05:23:50 AM
Time to break out the tent and sleeping bag. I'M GOIN' CAMPING.  XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on May 08, 2009, 05:27:41 AM
I'm picking Gold because Gold users take nothing short of being the best. Silver users settle at second class quitters.

That's right, I went there.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on May 08, 2009, 05:30:38 AM
Ow, and before I forget. Torchic FTW!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on May 08, 2009, 05:30:51 AM
Oh [parasitic bomb], did you hear that? He went there! HE WENT THERE!



Where's there?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Harruhy on May 08, 2009, 05:31:04 AM
I'm picking Gold because Gold users take nothing short of being the best. Silver users settle at second class quitters.

That's right, I went there.

OH NO YOU DIDN'T

People who actually care about the names, and etc are lame. |:
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on May 08, 2009, 05:32:40 AM
In all seriousness though, I do wonder what sorts of changes we'll be seeing here. We have Battle Frontier already. Why not the Orange Islands?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Harruhy on May 08, 2009, 05:34:57 AM
Why not the Orange Islands?

It's not why not, it's more like, we'll have to wait and see.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on May 08, 2009, 05:37:41 AM
In all seriousness though, I do wonder what sorts of changes we'll be seeing here. We have Battle Frontier already. Why not the Orange Islands?


Didn't we get that in FRLG with the Sevii Islands?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Harruhy on May 08, 2009, 05:38:43 AM
Uh, definitely not. The Orange Islands are completely different.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sparky on May 08, 2009, 05:57:51 AM
Okay. As much as I know what a shitstorm the following statement will erupt, I'm gonna say this.

I'm NOT getting this if my expectation isn't met, no matter how trivial you may conceive it to be.

I'm sorry, but that's just me.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Waifu on May 08, 2009, 05:58:42 AM
I wish that was a sidequest and did anyone mention that Cyberdemon glitch in the original R&B?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 08, 2009, 06:17:10 AM
Heart Gold FTW! If only for nostalgic purposes, in memory of my actual Gold version that got [tornado fang]'d up after cloning, and because my brother will be getting Soul Silver.

YES.

Soul Silver sounds infinitely more CRUNK than "Heart Gold".

I wonder if they'll reverse the order for the English release.

"Silver Soul" and "Gold/Golden Heart" flow much better, in my opinion.

Hey, read my mind.

Oh, and beware all of you Cyndaquill lovers, Totodile is coming to extinguish you 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 08, 2009, 06:18:32 AM
Oh, and beware all of you Cyndaquill lovers, Totodile is coming to extinguish you 8D

My Typhlosion that knows Thunder Punch will [tornado fang] you up. 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 08, 2009, 06:21:10 AM
So it all comes down to who strikes first then :P
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 08, 2009, 06:21:52 AM
So it all comes down to who strikes first then :P

EXACTLY!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on May 08, 2009, 06:33:49 AM
Typhlosion is the faster Pokemon if memory serves...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 08, 2009, 06:37:37 AM
Quick Claw!
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
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Haunter is still watching over this remake with a close eye.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 08, 2009, 07:00:50 AM
My Typhlosion that knows Thunder Punch will [tornado fang] you up. 8D

That won't even 2HKO unless you're insanely lucky, and Feraligatr will OHKO with Waterfall. Too bad, Typhlosion.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 08, 2009, 07:05:58 AM
That won't even 2HKO unless you're insanely lucky, and Feraligatr will OHKO with Waterfall. Too bad, Typhlosion.

You and your lies. 8D

Anyway...

Quote
We learned on the 7th that "Pocket Monsters Gold and Silver," the second entry in the popular RPG series, originally released on the Gameboy system in November of 1999, will be remade for the Nintendo DS this autumn under the titles "HeartGold" and "SoulSilver." New elements will be added in this tenth anniversary return to the Johto Region.

A continuation of the original series (Pocket Monsters Red, Green, Blue, and Pikachu), Gold and Silver recorded remarkable sales of 23,000,000 copies worldwide. It introduced monsters that hadn't appeared in the gameboy games, along with various new features.

Red and Green, the first games of the Pokemon series, were remade for the Gameboy Advance in 2004 as "Fire Red and Leaf Green," making this the second set of remakes. While Red and Green had fantastic upgrades in their transition from Gameboy to Gameboy Advance, this time the games are skipping the Gameboy Advance and going directly from Gameboy to DS. So they will almost certainly have drastically upgraded graphics and sound. Details will be released on the official site shortly.

Currently in development for the Nintendo DS are the newest entries in the Pokemon series: "Pocket Monsters HeartGold and SoulSilver." Taking place in the Johto region, the games will be upgraded with all of the series' current features and will also be paced with brand new features. This year marks the tenth anniversary of "Pocket Monsters Gold and Silver's" release on the original Gameboy, so its revival is only fitting. Since its release in 1999, the game has sold over 23,000,000 copies worldwide.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 08, 2009, 07:20:35 AM
You and your lies. 8D

You are guaranteed a OHKO if you run a +atk nature 252 atk EV Banded Typhlosion against a -def nature Feraligatr with no EVs and IVs of 0 in HP and defense, I must admit! If it's taken stealth rock damage, that is.


Yeah possibly you should counter with something else.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 08, 2009, 07:23:43 AM
Yeah possibly you should counter with something else.

If that's the case, then I will have my Meganium and Pikachu/Raichu ready.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 08, 2009, 07:25:17 AM
A masterful strategy.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 08, 2009, 08:23:04 AM
Hmm, I wonder which one I will get first... LOL
I played Gold back in the day, with Feraligatr by my side...
Then I played Silver with Cyndaquil, but never finished the game...

And if it went by the same version exclusive Pokemon...
...
...
Heart Gold for me. 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 08, 2009, 08:29:38 AM
I'm going to buy Soul Silver.  Then I'm going to LEVEL 100 all the Level 100's I had in original Silver.  Then I'm going to compare them.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 08, 2009, 08:31:51 AM
Soul Silver will beat the original Silver, all that EV-ing and stuff. :P
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sparky on May 08, 2009, 08:35:26 AM
You know, maybe Gold and Silver did have hauntings, and these are probably them.

Sprout Tower, because ghosts from all over Johto are said to visit it at night.
Tin Tower, because it is said to be a resting place for Pokemon.

Both of these explain the massive influx of Ghastly at night in both.


Yep, I've been wrong after all these years..
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 08, 2009, 08:36:30 AM
Like I said earlier;
I'm so [tornado fang]ing happy right now, I'm getting both!

You know, maybe Gold and Silver did have hauntings, and these are probably them.

Sprout Tower, because ghosts from all over Johto are said to visit it at night.
Tin Tower, because it is said to be a resting place for Pokemon.

Both of these explain the massive influx of Ghastly at night in both.


Yep, I've been wrong after all these years..

Welcome to the years 1999-2000
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on May 08, 2009, 10:00:15 AM
The Pokemon Sunday TV Show about the announcement (3/5). (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nud68_hdv6g) It'll be fun to see the show on 9/5 too. ^^

I can't wait to visit Johto/Kanto regions again, the most recognized places in the whole Pokemon universe.

I must have visited those regions so many times back in my Game Boy/Stadium days, it's hard to be without them. o>v<o

I definitely think the Crystal version will show up after this, so I'll wait patiently for that and repeat my Full Pokedex tradition.

In the meantime, I'll play both Heart Gold and Soul Silver! Let's see if we can breed a new Curselax~

OK~!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ezwo6Foiwg)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: HyperSonicEXE on May 08, 2009, 03:01:32 PM
Ah, yes, back when they made good Pokemon designs.

Between Megaman 9, Kirby Superstar Ultra, TMNTIVHD, and now PKMN G/S remakes, the developers in the industry should remember how to make a good game by now.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on May 08, 2009, 04:17:25 PM
I definitely think the Crystal version will show up after this, so I'll wait patiently for that and repeat my Full Pokedex tradition.

Actually, I'm not so sure about a Crystal remake. Wouldn't it be more advantageous to include the new elements Crystal introduced, as well as the material from the newer titles? That, and we didn't get an Electric Yellow version last time. :P
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: HyperSonicEXE on May 08, 2009, 04:40:35 PM
We only got Fire Red and Leaf Green, nothing on either the Blue (technical, I know) or Yellow versions; even though this is only their second time to do remakes, and considering this will probably already have a number of D/P's features, I seriously doubt there will be a Crystal remake.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver Remake Confirmations Soon? Hell Yes.
Post by: Kit on May 08, 2009, 05:10:29 PM
Heart Gold and Soul Silver? :0
That's a fairly neat name I suppose.

DO YOU KNOW WHY SILVER RAWKS?

Cause its SOUL Silver!

 8D *is shot*
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on May 08, 2009, 06:05:43 PM
Logos

(http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/6200/heartgoldlogo.png)

(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/1310/soulsilverlogo.png)



http://www.pokemon.co.jp/info/game/g090508_01.html

Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on May 08, 2009, 06:48:56 PM
Logos

(http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/6200/heartgoldlogo.png)

(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/1310/soulsilverlogo.png)



http://www.pokemon.co.jp/info/game/g090508_01.html



Post already showing this. (http://forum.rockmanpm.com/index.php?topic=1613.175;msg=89817) But these are transparent. You win this round. 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: kuja killer on May 08, 2009, 06:50:14 PM
Im just hoping that these will have like new content at least after completing the game like fire red/leaf green did with having a whole entire new land of islands to explore with storyline.....rather than just some battle tower place again..
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on May 08, 2009, 06:59:58 PM
When you beat Johto region (GSC) you can visit Kanto region (RBGY). I'm happy with that. ^.^
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on May 08, 2009, 07:04:42 PM
I imagine the Sevii Islands will be coming back in some form.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on May 08, 2009, 07:11:58 PM
I imagine the Sevii Islands will be coming back in some form.

Sevii/Nanashima Islands ... hmmmm
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on May 08, 2009, 07:13:44 PM
Ah yes, the "Hidden Palace Zone" of the pokemon series. Used as tile data for one game, and never seen again in another, and the only way to access it is by toying through the stage data.

I'm sure it will return, after all, it is a remake. I mean, we got to have access through it via Kanto, right?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on May 08, 2009, 07:18:30 PM
...Wait, what? The Sevii Islands were in Fire Red and Leaf Green. Only one island in the game seemingly didn't work right and it was Alternating Cave or something. The rest are fully explorable and featured remixes of GSC themes (including the ever popular Azalea Town theme.) There is even a bonus Team Rocket story there along with Lorelei's house and teaching the starters super powered Hyper Beam like elemental moves.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on May 08, 2009, 07:19:11 PM
Yeah, I was questioning that myself.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on May 08, 2009, 07:20:03 PM
Well.. dammit, guess I never fully explored those areas. O_-
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on May 08, 2009, 08:01:46 PM
Izu Islands (Japan)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Izu_Islands


Sevii/Nanashima Islands ( Pokemon)
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Sevii_Islands
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Yami Blade on May 09, 2009, 05:17:20 AM
THERE IS A GOD!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 09, 2009, 05:23:40 AM
THERE IS A GOD!

That will only be proven if Duke Nukem Forever and Killer Instict 3 are ever made/released. >>;
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 09, 2009, 05:24:55 AM
THERE IS A GOD!
Yes, and his name is Arceus. 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: SoulAnimal on May 09, 2009, 03:03:25 PM
Damn , I liked the fake names DuskGold and Dawnsilver more then HeartGold and Soulsilver  :'(

And now i gotta buy HeartGold BLEH! :|

And the reason is because im getting my awesome original Gold team on there
Mewtwo (From Red  ;) )
FlyingFear ( Ho-oh )
Feraligatr ( Woot Starter! )
Espor ( espeon )
BubblePkMn ( Blastoise from Red )
Cyndy ( Typhlosion , From Mah Pwning Crystal )
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 10, 2009, 01:36:37 AM
Quote from: PokéBeach
Pokemon Sunday is now airing. If there is any new information on HeartGold or SoulSilver, it will be posted here as it is revealed.

-They just announced the two games, showing their logos.

-Banners unrolled out of the party balls, saying the release date is in Fall.

-New Sugimori art of the starters is shown.

-Nothing of consequence was revealed.

... Yep.

Posted on: May 09, 2009, 06:30:05 PM
Here's a screen shot of the New Bark Town remake.

(http://i44.tinypic.com/10z4ufn.png)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Waifu on May 10, 2009, 01:38:25 AM
I hope that is real.  :\
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on May 10, 2009, 01:38:45 AM
It does look pretty~ ^^
Gonna be fun to go back to New Bark Town again.

I hope that is real.  :\

It's from Pokemon Sunday Japanese TV Show, so of course it's real.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on May 10, 2009, 01:40:08 AM
Excitement level is rising! :D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 10, 2009, 01:40:56 AM
I hope that is real.  :\

It is. The Pokémon Sunday show just ended like, 10 minutes ago.

Also, from the looks of it; Your starter Pokémon will follow you just like Pikachu did in Yellow.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on May 10, 2009, 01:42:25 AM
... Yep.

Posted on: May 09, 2009, 06:30:05 PM
Here's a screen shot of the New Bark Town remake.

(http://i44.tinypic.com/10z4ufn.png)

Awesome!  :'(
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on May 10, 2009, 01:45:00 AM
The starter pokemon following around like Pikachu did in Yellow is awesome, Yellow was my first Pokemon game I ever played. :0
NOSTALGIA!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on May 10, 2009, 01:46:30 AM
(http://i44.tinypic.com/10z4ufn.png)

So happy right now. ='D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 10, 2009, 01:49:26 AM
(http://i43.tinypic.com/2n9gc52.jpg) (http://i40.tinypic.com/34njhg6.jpg)

(http://i43.tinypic.com/2jg4acp.jpg) (http://i43.tinypic.com/c3j92.png)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on May 10, 2009, 01:50:22 AM
I want to fight in Osaka and Kyoto XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Harruhy on May 10, 2009, 01:50:48 AM
Looks awesome. 8U
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on May 10, 2009, 01:51:20 AM
(http://i44.tinypic.com/1zdxcft.jpg)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/25uk7kk.jpg)
(http://i44.tinypic.com/vyo0v8.jpg)
(http://i43.tinypic.com/rupd0p.jpg)
(http://i41.tinypic.com/14ne45c.jpg)

And the Jelly said, let there be HQ! XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 10, 2009, 01:51:52 AM
(http://i44.tinypic.com/1zdxcft.jpg)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/25uk7kk.jpg)
(http://i44.tinypic.com/vyo0v8.jpg)
(http://i43.tinypic.com/rupd0p.jpg)
(http://i41.tinypic.com/14ne45c.jpg)

And the Jelly said, let there be HQ! XD

Damn, you beat me to it! XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on May 10, 2009, 01:53:18 AM
(http://i44.tinypic.com/1zdxcft.jpg)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/25uk7kk.jpg)
(http://i44.tinypic.com/vyo0v8.jpg)
(http://i43.tinypic.com/rupd0p.jpg)
(http://i41.tinypic.com/14ne45c.jpg)

And the Jelly said, let there be HQ! XD

WOW <3
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 10, 2009, 01:53:53 AM
I guess I was right about the starter following you then. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VirusChris on May 10, 2009, 01:58:14 AM
That's just awesome! The starter Pokemon following you around... they're making these remakes even better the original and that's saying something!

I can't wait for my little Cyndaquil following me around all over Johto now!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Acid on May 10, 2009, 01:59:11 AM
(http://i43.tinypic.com/2n9gc52.jpg) (http://i40.tinypic.com/34njhg6.jpg)

(http://i43.tinypic.com/2jg4acp.jpg) (http://i43.tinypic.com/c3j92.png)

I remember now... my least favorite starters.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on May 10, 2009, 02:03:07 AM
I remember this

Lucky Star XD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWhkBUAm20o&feature=related

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Ecruteak City  京都市  Kyōto City  京都府  Kyōto : Kyoto was formerly the imperial capital. 

Brass Tower  金閣  Kinkaku  京都府  Kyōto : Kinkaku was set on fire by a monk in 1950 (金閣寺放火事件). The wall is covered with gold leaf. Atop the Kinkaku temple sits a golden statue of a rooster or phoenix (Ho-Oh). 

Tin Tower  銀閣  Ginkaku  京都府  Kyōto : Ginkaku is not covered with silver leaf. Atop the Ginkaku temple rests the likeness of a bird (Lugia). 
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on May 10, 2009, 02:09:37 AM
FINALLY, new art of the Johto 'man. Chickorita looks neat! Oh the Nostalgia jRPG rush.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 10, 2009, 02:20:47 AM
Gameplay Footage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8Mm75hxX7Q).

Not much, just the player walking in a circle, uh square.... rectangle?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on May 10, 2009, 02:58:08 AM
Pokemon Sunday Full Episode (including the announcement) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvatNAUKFmQ&fmt=18)
A lovely wind is blowing with a soothing breeze~ <3

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvatNAUKFmQ[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on May 10, 2009, 03:06:10 AM
(http://i43.tinypic.com/2jg4acp.jpg)
I forgot til now how much I dislike him.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on May 10, 2009, 03:07:45 AM
How can you hate Totodile?  Sure, there are a zillion better Water Pokemon for battle, but the guy is too darn adorable.

You know, I hope that one day, the whole "your favorite little 'man following you" thing is expanded to more than just the starters, 'cuz I would KILL to have a Dratini follow me around. 8)

Still awesome regardless.  Platinum I may yet leave in the dust, but a G/S remake is just too darn much to pass up.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on May 10, 2009, 03:08:25 AM
Pokemon Sunday Full Episode (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lq9Xt3FJH80)
A lovely wind is blowing with a soothing breeze~ <3

Chikorita, Hinoarashi,Waninoko ... Ahhhhhh! <3 ( Awesome background music!)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on May 10, 2009, 03:10:08 AM
I can't wait for my little Cyndaquil following me around all over Johto now!
=D I know, right?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 10, 2009, 03:14:32 AM
How can you hate Totodile?  Sure, there are a zillion better Water Pokemon for battle, but the guy is too darn adorable.

Indeed, however, there's just something about Croconaw that I highly dislike -__-

You know, I hope that one day, the whole "your favorite little 'man following you" thing is expanded to more than just the starters, 'cuz I would KILL to have a Dratini follow me around. 8)

That'd cause lots of trouble with the bigger Pokemons, mostly the legendaries.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on May 10, 2009, 03:24:11 AM
Size restrictions in gameplay have existed since Yellow.  Capping at 6 or 7 feet wouldn't be a big deal.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 10, 2009, 03:25:28 AM
Yeah, but that'd kill the point of having your favorite character following you around, seeing as how some people's favorite would be unusable. =P
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on May 10, 2009, 03:27:02 AM
So?  Isn't a selection of half the 'mans in the game better than a selection of 3?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 10, 2009, 03:29:13 AM
Of course it is, I'm only saying that it wouldn't be the same as being able to have your favorite Pokemon follow you.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on May 10, 2009, 04:02:45 AM
Uncomfirmed, but the Brazilians are at it with the rumormill (http://forum.jogos.uol.com.br/Topico-Oficial-Pokemon-Heart-Gold-&-Soul-Silver-NEWS-E-PRIMEIRAS-IMAGENS_t_224761):

    * New sprites for Kanto and Johto Pokemon, Platinum sprites for Sinnoh Pokemon Diamond/Platinum sprites for Hoenn Pokemon
    * New PokeGear, radio's still in, compatible with Poketch?
    * Pokebox DS app on DSi, sort of like Pokemon Ranch, save Pokemon to DSi, transfer between games with one DSi
    * Story's different
    * can't catch Red Gyarados (!)
    * Bug Catching Contest still in
    * Can catch Ho-Oh and Lugia in both games, Legendary Dogs too
    * Kanto's back, can get Kanto starters
    * Mewtwo's back in the same place, so are Legendary Birds (Unknown Cave and Seafoam Isle back?)
    * Safari Zone returns, Cinnibar too  (:()
    * MORE EVENT ISLANDS. And also Celebi GS Ball event
    * Online Underground and secret bases, find fossils under Cinnibar
    * Somehow get Hoenn starters in Battle Frontier
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 10, 2009, 04:05:04 AM
Most of it sounds good, but I call BS until proven otherwise.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on May 10, 2009, 04:13:11 AM
Quote
The games [G/S] are going to have new additions to the gender and breeding portions of the game. An example of these has actually already been revealed to the the public though many people don't realize what it means:

(http://www.serebii.net/movies/arceus/pichu.png)

Certain Pokemon will gain new looks based on their parents and while I don't know any specifics right now, I know it's going to be very in-depth.

The plot thickens...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 10, 2009, 04:14:35 AM
Curse you Jelly! I was posting the exact same thing! XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: borockman on May 10, 2009, 04:16:48 AM
What's exactly happening with that Pichu honestly? (pokemon illiterate reporting)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 10, 2009, 04:17:32 AM
It's different.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: borockman on May 10, 2009, 04:19:53 AM
You mean the ear?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on May 10, 2009, 04:20:49 AM
Yeah. It's called a notched-ear Pichu. Was a big deal in the last (next?) movie apparently.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Harruhy on May 10, 2009, 04:21:00 AM
    * Story's different
    * can't catch Red Gyarados (!)

Well, that sucks.


You mean the ear?

It's different.

Quote
Certain Pokemon will gain new looks

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Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on May 10, 2009, 04:22:57 AM
Huh, at least Gardevoir would have male/female diffrences now.. and the females will actually look more feminine. :/
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on May 10, 2009, 04:23:54 AM
   * Story's different
    * can't catch Red Gyarados
    * Kanto's back, can get Kanto starters
    * Mewtwo's back in the same place, so are Legendary Birds (Unknown Cave and Seafoam Isle back?)
    * Safari Zone returns, Cinnibar too  (:()
    * MORE EVENT ISLANDS. And also Celebi GS Ball event
    * Online Underground and secret bases, find fossils under Cinnibar
    * Somehow get Hoenn starters in Battle Frontier

Wat.

So if all of this turns out to be true, Pokemon game of the forever? (Granted I liked the passage of time in GSC and how things like the Safari Zone closing, Cinnabar's Volcano erupting came to make an already memorable place even moreso.)

Huh, at least Gardevoir would have male/female diffrences now.. and the females will actually look more feminine. :/

Scary scary thoughts came to my mind while reading this post. *shudders*
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Harruhy on May 10, 2009, 04:24:17 AM
Huh, at least Gardevoir would have male/female diffrences now.. and the females will actually look more feminine. :/

Yes, a notched-ear totally defines the gender of a Pichu.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on May 10, 2009, 04:25:45 AM
I was referring to the fanart of the Gardevoir, and yes, the thought is a little disturbing.. as they look like bishies more than anything else.. while the females.. look exactly the same..

And I have no clue where you got that idea Harruhy. :/
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on May 10, 2009, 04:25:48 AM
For the record, I :('d at the Cinnabar line because that means it's not a volcanic ruined mess.

It'll probably be very subtle visual differences, like how Spinda have different spots all over the place.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Harruhy on May 10, 2009, 04:26:38 AM
And I have no clue where you got that idea Harruhy. :/

Sarcasm doesn't travel well on the internet.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: borockman on May 10, 2009, 04:27:52 AM
Speaking of gender.

(http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj74/borockman/HAPPY_EARLY_VALENTINE_by_e1n.jpg)

Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on May 10, 2009, 04:30:24 AM
Huh, at least Gardevoir would have male/female diffrences now.. and the females will actually look more feminine. :/

Male Gardevoir = Jun Watarase
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 10, 2009, 04:32:26 AM
    * can't catch Red Gyarados (!)

If that turns out to be true, I'm gonna rage like never before.

Speaking of gender.

(http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj74/borockman/HAPPY_EARLY_VALENTINE_by_e1n.jpg)

D:
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Harruhy on May 10, 2009, 04:32:45 AM
If that turns out to be true, I'm gonna rage like never before.

Lake of RAAAAAAAAAAAGE
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 10, 2009, 04:33:43 AM
Lake of RAAAAAAAAAAAGE

[tornado fang] yeah! Puns!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 10, 2009, 04:34:14 AM
For the record, I :('d at the Cinnabar line because that means it's not a volcanic ruined mess.

It'll probably be very subtle visual differences, like how Spinda have different spots all over the place.

I know I :('d too.

Speaking of gender.

(http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj74/borockman/HAPPY_EARLY_VALENTINE_by_e1n.jpg)



Yeah...better change that in this game.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 10, 2009, 04:37:18 AM
Maybe they'll change breeding so you don't need to go through like six billion eggs before you get a single good IV pokemon.



Okay yeah that's impossible fair enough.



([tornado fang] IVs.)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on May 10, 2009, 04:40:31 AM
Then again, the guys at Game Freak are known for not listening to the fans (somewhat).

And at that picture makes me recall the Mystery Dungeon OVA.. *shudder*
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sparky on May 10, 2009, 05:53:05 AM
WaitwaitwaitWAIT.

Cinnabar, Mewtwo, Safari Zone all returning!?

*PLAYS POKEMON TOWER LOUDLY*

At least I hope so. >>
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 10, 2009, 06:01:23 AM
So Pyre Heart will always follow me around?

.....I may have to never level him up and just raise another Cyndaquil to be Typhlosion ...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: HokutoNoBen on May 10, 2009, 06:39:54 AM
So Pyre Heart will always follow me around?

.....I may have to never level him up and just raise another Cyndaquil to be Typhlosion ...

I feel the same way about my upcoming Wanioko/Totodile, who shall be named Laguna....   8D

If CoroCoro/Nintendo Dream deliver on some more megatons....they may force my hand, to import this sucker.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 10, 2009, 06:41:30 AM
You guys are making me want to nickname my new Totodile. Quick, everyone, give me ideas.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on May 10, 2009, 06:59:32 AM
How about Dundee?  8)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 10, 2009, 07:38:40 AM
Speaking of gender.

(http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj74/borockman/HAPPY_EARLY_VALENTINE_by_e1n.jpg)


For the record, I have a female Machamp that I personally trained till Weavile came along in my Platinum. -_-

ANYWAYS...
Awesome news is awesome....
I highly await confirmed news of stuff. bVd
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VirusChris on May 10, 2009, 05:08:09 PM
I hope the part about not catching Red Gyarados isn't true. I loved using that monster on the Elite Four.


But if the story changes it to help the poor Gyarados then fine, I'll have to get lucky and find a shiny Magikarp then.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: HyperSonicEXE on May 10, 2009, 05:54:14 PM
Are ya kiddin' me? I might actually get this!

You'd better believe I'm going to use PokeSav or something, though, so I don't have to mess with those complicated underlier stats.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on May 10, 2009, 06:36:18 PM
Again, grain of salt on all of that. That's a lot of information on a title that's otherwise just been revealed, with some stuff from the 50% point of the total game. I think they're all just shots in the dark and more of them are safe guesses than anything else. These guys aren't exactly very credible.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on May 10, 2009, 06:36:21 PM
I'll have to get lucky and find a shiny Magikarp then.

It won't feel the same way though. ^^;
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on May 10, 2009, 11:30:29 PM
I feel the same way about my upcoming Wanioko/Totodile, who shall be named Laguna....   8D
Same, although if I bother to nickname mine (I usually don't), it'll probably be Little G.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Waifu on May 11, 2009, 02:59:43 AM
What do use to get the Red Gyarados?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on May 11, 2009, 03:03:03 AM
Before the 7th gym, Mahogany Gym, you can catch Red Gyarados in the Lake of Rage to the north.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on May 11, 2009, 06:07:10 AM
Just a thought, but does anyone want the Johto Gym Leaders and Elite Four to be tougher? That's one of my complaints with GS. They were all pushovers if you ask me.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 11, 2009, 06:52:55 AM
Just a thought, but does anyone want the Johto Gym Leaders and Elite Four to be tougher? That's one of my complaints with GS. They were all pushovers if you ask me.

Whitney and her Miltank would like a word with you. >.>;
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on May 11, 2009, 07:20:52 AM
Well, as has seemingly become a trend with the remakes, the Elite Four close down and become harder a little later. This also happened in FR and LG while you're off frolicking on the Sevii Islands and again in Platinum while exploring Stark Mountain. It's no doubt they'll pull something similar to Platinum again... maybe even an upgrading Red?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 11, 2009, 07:32:58 AM
But wasn't Red alredy in the 80s? So then you want a trainer with lv100 pokes don't you? ._.

About the E4, I'd say that I hope not, it's what made me stop playing FR/LG, I always used the E4 to level up and evolve pokemon to complete the dex, but with freaking Lorelei overpowering me and with nowhere else to train I gave up. Then again, this are the Johto E4, they'd be weak anyways.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 11, 2009, 07:41:01 AM
But wasn't Red alredy in the 80s? So then you want a trainer with lv100 pokes don't you? ._.

That'd be [tornado fang]ing INTENSE! 8U
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 11, 2009, 07:44:16 AM
But wasn't Red alredy in the 80s? So then you want a trainer with lv100 pokes don't you? ._.

Sounds a lot better than a trainer that's a complete pushover if you can be bothered training your guys. I mean, he'll still need EV'd pokemon/a much better chosen moveset/better choice in pokemon/AI that isn't terrible, but, y'know, at least it'd be something.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on May 11, 2009, 08:50:23 AM
Red with a level 100 team would be lovely. I would say throw in some legendaries in to the mix as well since, outside of the Battle Frontier, no trainer has used a legendary pokemon.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on May 11, 2009, 04:17:57 PM
Oh, if Red gets Lv100 with this, bring some 1-hit KO'ers with you, that's one way to solve a problem (sheer cold kyogre, import if you have both Saphhire and Emerald)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on May 11, 2009, 04:18:53 PM
But wasn't Red alredy in the 80s? So then you want a trainer with lv100 pokes don't you? ._.

   
Red has these Pokemon in  "Pokemon Special manga"
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on May 11, 2009, 04:21:57 PM
But then, if there was intentionally was a manga based of G/S, that would have to be remade too? Or just released stateside.. huh...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 11, 2009, 04:32:38 PM
Oh, if Red gets Lv100 with this, bring some 1-hit KO'ers with you, that's one way to solve a problem (sheer cold kyogre, import if you have both Saphhire and Emerald)
Only works if your Pokemon are lvl100 as well.
And even then, you have 30% accuracy.
Just hit hard, one-hit KO moves are not worth it.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on May 11, 2009, 04:32:50 PM
Oh, if Red gets Lv100 with this, bring some 1-hit KO'ers with you, that's one way to solve a problem (sheer cold kyogre, import if you have both Saphhire and Emerald)

I've never been too fond of one-hit KO moves. There's a few Pokemon where they could be nice, namely anything that knows Lock On or similar, but two turns to take out a Pokemon is a little risky, especially using a move with really low accuracy.

What I hate is how the higher you go in the battle tower, the higher their accuracy goes up for the computer player. One time, a streak of mine ended at 79 because a blasted Rhyperior came out and Fissured or Horn Drilled all three of my pokemon first move.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on May 11, 2009, 05:38:32 PM
Well, just that people have been forgetting the Depo store, it's what it's there for, boosters. ^^
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 11, 2009, 05:43:37 PM
X Accurary?
You could have just gone and super-effectived them in those turns instead.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on May 11, 2009, 05:44:46 PM
Maybe I haven't been in the Pokemon world longer than I thought, but... People use OHKO's? XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 11, 2009, 05:48:44 PM
I just use one-hit KO moves that are only one-hit KO moves because my Pokemon are so overpowered. Plus, type match-ups help them get that way too. CHARIZARD, USE FIRE BLAST ON THAT Lv. 1 ODDISH! 1-HIT KO! Oh yeah!

Yes, I like picking on Pokemon that are way weaker than mine. Their fault for running into me whilst I am doing donuts for no readily apparent reason.


Also, Jelly. Yes. Horn Drill is one of them. Rarely use it, too few PP.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 11, 2009, 05:50:09 PM
Wait... People use OHKO moves competitively?
Wow, news to me...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 11, 2009, 05:51:26 PM
I don't. Just on the aforementioned Lv. 1 Oddish. Stupid Oddish. Running into me. Or Magikarp. I'M TRYING TO CATCH SOMETHING USEFUL! NOT SOMETHING I NEED TO WASTE TIME ON TO BECOME USEFUL!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Waifu on May 11, 2009, 06:12:22 PM
Heck, I had a hard time with the Elite four even in the original in R/S, G/S were a little too simple but the difficulty came back in the remake.

I don't. Just on the aforementioned Lv. 1 Oddish. Stupid Oddish. Running into me. Or Magikarp. I'M TRYING TO CATCH SOMETHING USEFUL! NOT SOMETHING I NEED TO WASTE TIME ON TO BECOME USEFUL!

Like Caterpie or Weedle, who only get badass when you level them up further.

I just use one-hit KO moves that are only one-hit KO moves because my Pokemon are so overpowered. Plus, type match-ups help them get that way too. CHARIZARD, USE FIRE BLAST ON THAT Lv. 1 ODDISH! 1-HIT KO! Oh yeah!

Yes, I like picking on Pokemon that are way weaker than mine. Their fault for running into me whilst I am doing donuts for no readily apparent reason.


Also, Jelly. Yes. Horn Drill is one of them. Rarely use it, too few PP.

What about Guillotine for Kingler? Does that count as well?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 11, 2009, 06:14:04 PM
Horn Drill, Guillotine, Fissure, Sheer Cold are all OHKO moves.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Ephidiel on May 11, 2009, 07:43:43 PM
weren't there a special ability one PKMN had to change Hit of every move to 80
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 11, 2009, 07:45:39 PM
Ehh... Could you repeat that?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sky Child on May 11, 2009, 07:48:59 PM
because there are only a set number of colors in the visible spectrum and they have to reuse them
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 11, 2009, 07:50:47 PM
IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on May 11, 2009, 07:51:52 PM
weren't there a special ability one PKMN had to change Hit of every move to 80

Ehh... Could you repeat that?
because there are only a set number of colors in the visible spectrum and they have to reuse them

*Mind asplode*
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 11, 2009, 07:55:32 PM
*heals Jelly's mind*

I'm confused about that. I'm thinkin' Sandstorm, or something along those lines, something that changes the weather. I think Sandstorm reduces Hit. Hit is Accuracy, right? Haven't played PKMN in a while.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 11, 2009, 08:03:19 PM
If we go by your definition Mirby...
There is an ability called Sand Veil, that raises the evasioness of the Pokemon during a Sandstorm. The more turns Sandstorm remains, the higher the evasion. Of course, if Sandstorm stops, evasion is reset to default value.
Or Sand Stream, that causes Sandstorm to whip up for the rest of the battle.

Still nothing about the 80 part though...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 11, 2009, 08:06:40 PM
That's what I meant by my def, Wily. Thanks for that! Also, I don't see the Wily Pencil Puzzle I gave you in your avvy or sig! *points accusingly*
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 11, 2009, 08:09:12 PM
-_-
Ehh... Look there! *points at a Tyranitar, and yoinks away*

(Yeah, Tyranitar has the Sand Stream ability...)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 11, 2009, 08:15:39 PM
-_-
Ehh... Look there! *points at a Tyranitar, and yoinks away*

(Yeah, Tyranitar has the Sand Stream ability...)

It's a shame he's useless now that Aura Sphere is available to Mewtwo.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 11, 2009, 08:16:37 PM
What? BLASPHEMY! Well, not really. I guess Mewtwo copied it from Lucario, after Lucario took his place in Smash Bros.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 11, 2009, 08:22:50 PM
I still love Tyranitar nonetheless, one of my cores in defeating Red. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 11, 2009, 08:25:16 PM
Sadly, I don't remember my Red-slaughtering team from Silver. I know it consisted of a Typhlosion named Flame Boy (always named my fire starter that; first water pokemon is always named Wet Willy) and 5 others. No idea who they were though.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Kit on May 11, 2009, 08:33:51 PM
Hey all I'm gonna say is Abra.

Abra's the best.

Besides I'd rather raise mine for contests and just being pals with cause I'm a puss.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Ephidiel on May 11, 2009, 09:57:13 PM
No Guard: The accuracy of all moves known by all Pokémon on the field raises to 100%
it was up to 100%
Machamp can have this ability
having this ability on a 2on2 fight with a speedy PKMN that knows OHKO moves would be cruel
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 12, 2009, 12:47:52 AM
It's a shame he's useless now that Aura Sphere is available to Mewtwo.

If you're gonna call a pokemon useless because it has a counter, pretty much every pokemon ever is useless.

Mewtwo's banned from standard play anyway.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 12, 2009, 12:53:53 AM
It's a shame he's useless now that Aura Sphere is available to Mewtwo.
Eh if I ever did use a Tyranitar and ever had to fight Mewtwo with it, I'd just try to kill Mewtwo before he kills me using Crunch or any Dark type move I please.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Waifu on May 12, 2009, 02:37:28 AM
If you're gonna call a pokemon useless because it has a counter, pretty much every pokemon ever is useless.

Mewtwo's banned from standard play anyway.

Ahhh, man! I like Mewtwo, he was the best PKMN in the whole series.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on May 12, 2009, 03:25:32 AM
Mewtwo's banned from standard play anyway.
All the more reason to use him!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: HyperSonicEXE on May 12, 2009, 03:56:46 AM
I remember KOing the entire RBY Elite Four with Articuno, particularly Ice Beam.

Then, Houndoom's Crunch, Solarbeam, and Flamethrower started kicking tail, especially Crunch against the ever-feared Mewtwo and Mew.

Zapdos and Thunder Wave. Can't forget Steel Wing.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 12, 2009, 05:33:16 AM
All the more reason to use him!

So either you need another five ubers to make a team with, or the rest of your guys are basically pointless compared to your god tier ones, and you have to hope like hell your opponent either barely has any ubers or is much worse than you are, or you're basically screwed.

Just leaving the overpowered pokemon at home and playing OU seems a lot more fun to me bro.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 12, 2009, 06:02:50 AM
If you're gonna call a pokemon useless because it has a counter, pretty much every pokemon ever is useless.

Mewtwo's banned from standard play anyway.

No, I'm calling Tyranitar useless against him, being that he's faster than him, has pretty high speed, attack, and special attack, and Aura Sphere kills him in a single blow.

Also, Pokemon Battle Revolution was really the only time I ever battled people who weren't friends, and I don't care who they use or not. 
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 12, 2009, 06:10:04 AM
Oh, okay, your first post made it seem like you thought TTar was always useless because of Mewtwo, which doesn't seem fair because Mewtwo isn't all that common. My apologies for misinterpreting you sir!



And TTar won't always die from one Aura Sphere. That sandstorm special defence bonus is pretty crazy. He just dies uh most of the time.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 12, 2009, 06:17:05 AM
Oh, okay, your first post made it seem like you thought TTar was always useless because of Mewtwo, which doesn't seem fair because Mewtwo isn't all that common. My apologies for misinterpreting you sir!



And TTar won't always die from one Aura Sphere. That sandstorm special defence bonus is pretty crazy. He just dies uh most of the time.

Oh no no. No no no no.  Tyranitar was actually pretty good against Mewtwo, before Aura Sphere.  It's just the 4X Damage that Aura Sphere does to Tyranitar just hurts him so much to really put up a fight against him now.

It's the same with Snorlax.  Snorlax was always in my Silver team.  He was my backbone.  Aura Sphere hurts him a lot too.  Damn DPP for improve Fighting Pokemon!  XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on May 12, 2009, 06:21:19 AM
I find it hilarious that fighting types in Red/Blue/Yellow days were always laughed at, but ever since GSC those fuckers have been raping everything.

Now, can somebody at Gamefreak please start buffing the Ghost Pokemon?

Unless they have already and I'm way out of the loop. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 12, 2009, 08:53:40 AM
Ghost Pokemon...
Spiritomb and Sableye are a nice little group...

No Guard: The accuracy of all moves known by all Pokémon on the field raises to 100%
it was up to 100%
Machamp can have this ability
having this ability on a 2on2 fight with a speedy PKMN that knows OHKO moves would be cruel
Oh, No Guard.
Still... OHKO moves in competitive battling?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 12, 2009, 09:49:27 AM
Update: Serebii's description sucks. No Guard only helps moves used by or against Machamp, his partner's accuracy stays exactly the same.

Just in case anyone was wondering.



And no tourneyfag is ever going to allow OHKO moves, they're far too random. Random stuff's anathema to those guys.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on May 12, 2009, 04:30:34 PM
All the more reason to use him!

What would anyone think of Mewtwo using Guard Swap on a Bastiodon in a 2 on 2 battle? Heh heh heh. *Insert evil laughter*
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 12, 2009, 05:19:18 PM
Is that a female trainer I see? (http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml) 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 12, 2009, 05:21:34 PM
Yea~

Although the news below about the notched-ear Pichu worries me...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sub Tank on May 12, 2009, 05:21:49 PM
Is that a female trainer I see? (http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml) 8D

I can't wait for all the hentai.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Kit on May 12, 2009, 05:27:08 PM
I can't wait for all the hentai.
8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 12, 2009, 05:44:39 PM
I can't wait for all the hentai.

Hentai?  Of Pokemon characters? 
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Waifu on May 12, 2009, 05:52:43 PM
Hentai?  Of Pokemon characters? 

Yes, although I prefer some more than others because some doujins just plain frighten me.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sub Tank on May 12, 2009, 06:04:07 PM
Is that a rhetorical question PB?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on May 12, 2009, 06:13:48 PM
I can't wait for all the hentai.

Hahaha! yus XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on May 12, 2009, 06:20:18 PM
Well, they did ditch Kris.. but that doesn't bug me, though, since I will be using Gold anyway (AKA boy).
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on May 12, 2009, 06:27:30 PM
(http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn194/Akira_Corp/7796.jpg)

 :'(
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 12, 2009, 06:31:04 PM
Is that a rhetorical question PB?

Of course it is!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on May 12, 2009, 06:45:04 PM
(http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn194/Akira_Corp/7796.jpg)

 :'(

Well, she's a Crystal exclusive (and introduced gender picks), but since this is a remake it's bound to happen.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on May 12, 2009, 06:57:33 PM
So either you need another five ubers to make a team with, or the rest of your guys are basically pointless compared to your god tier ones, and you have to hope like hell your opponent either barely has any ubers or is much worse than you are, or you're basically screwed.

Just leaving the overpowered pokemon at home and playing OU seems a lot more fun to me bro.
I just enjoy watching people go "WTF YOU CANT USE THAT IT'S BANNED" like having a Darkrai lay waste to their team by putting everyone to sleep, having Mewtwo wreck house, and Arceus that does whatever the hell it wants, Manaphy. I always have three legends on me at any given point of a mixed assortment with some others like my little Alakazam or Dunsparce (8D). Like I said, I pick pokemon I like, not "what's better according to some website on the internet."

So yes, watching tards cry that I'm not playing according to some arbitrary rule system like they have sand in their vaginas is pretty fun. Only reminds me how retarded the Internet's making online play.

Moving on to more important discussion, the new girl trainer looks quite dumb, IMO. Gold still looks ready to kick all sorts of ass though. That's all that matters. Also, details:

-Three new Wi-Fi minigames?
-Starter may not be the only Pokemon that follows you, Pokemon follow you even after the beginning of the game.
-The new Lugia art is AWESOME, new stock art for Ho-Oh, Wobbuffet, Chinchou, Sentret, Mareep, Gligar, Dunsparce, Hopip, Wooper, Delibird, Larvitar, Miltank, Blissey, Stantler, Phanpy, Remoraid, Octillery,Qwilfish, Slugma, Swinub, and Teddiursa
-New female playable character, NOT Crystal
-PokeGear has got a re-design, appears to have a camera
-Slowpoke Well and Sprout Tower return with new looks
-There is a skateboard?
-Confirmation of the different Pichus in game, are both part of an event in Ilex Forest
-September 11th Release Date
-Kanto return is hinted at (DUH)
-Wi-fi features expanded
-Cutscenes in new areas akin to FRLG.

(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h192/AlexBCA/corocoro-2.jpg)(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h192/AlexBCA/corocoro-1.jpg)
(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h192/AlexBCA/corocoro-4.jpg)(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h192/AlexBCA/corocoro-3.jpg)
(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h192/AlexBCA/corocoro-6.jpg)(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h192/AlexBCA/corocoro-5.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on May 12, 2009, 07:08:44 PM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH

OMG WHERE ARE MY SEDATIVES AHHHHHH.

So hyped now. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on May 12, 2009, 07:16:34 PM
I only have one little design complaint with Gold there... it's really nothing big, but I think it'd be a bit better if the bang stuck out from the hole in the cap, not from under it. Again, it's nothing really big.

I also wonder if this means places like the town around Lake of Rage will be back. Probably not, but it would be better than that Cut-requiring infested maze to visit Mr. Friday.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on May 12, 2009, 07:17:50 PM
Oh God, I remember that place. XD

Man, I feel the same way I did when I was 10 and reading the details on the game from NP.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 12, 2009, 07:17:58 PM
Oh Pyre Heart.  You and I will have such fun together again.

And Larvitar looks bad ass!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on May 12, 2009, 07:24:01 PM
I find it a little sad I remember the Gold and Silver map despite not having played the game in over 6-7 years. I only remember sending my gold cart to GothamAnswer, who told me the battery died not long after he got it right as he was taking on Ho-Oh. I think there's a fix for the battery, but it'd probably only lengthen the life of the game another 10 years give or take.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 12, 2009, 07:28:18 PM
My Silver still works, and I put untold of amount of hours into that game.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Waifu on May 12, 2009, 07:28:32 PM
One day I will be a used version of the game and a Gameboy color if my grades are good enough.  8)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Kit on May 12, 2009, 07:28:47 PM
The girl looks like a rapeable loli.

D:
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on May 12, 2009, 07:30:54 PM
My Silver still works, and I put untold of amount of hours into that game.

Same here. I had a semi yearly tradition of replaying the game from scratch every now and then to see if I was still up to snuff in it. What's funny is the one year where I didn't play, the remakes are announced. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on May 12, 2009, 07:35:33 PM
The girl looks like a rapeable loli.

D:
I'm sure Japan is already on it.

(insert facepalm.gif here)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Lunar Knight Zeke on May 12, 2009, 07:37:46 PM
This is somewhat random, but does anyone else think the new girl looks kinda like a female Mario?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on May 12, 2009, 07:42:39 PM
I was thinking the same thing for a little bit myself actually.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 12, 2009, 07:47:47 PM
Oh WOOPER.  I almost forgot about you, buddy!   8)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on May 12, 2009, 07:50:27 PM
I loved Wooper. Quagmire as well by extension. That thing was one of the best powerhouses in the game. xD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Kit on May 12, 2009, 07:55:04 PM
I loved Wooper. Quagmire as well by extension. That thing was one of the best powerhouses in the game. xD

Slowpoke damnit!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on May 12, 2009, 08:01:50 PM
You said Slowpoke and reminded me of Elite Four Will's Slowbro. [tornado fang]ing Amnesia... XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sub Tank on May 12, 2009, 08:23:15 PM
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b350/SubTank123/eweyweyweywe3.jpg) (http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b350/SubTank123/eweyweyweywe3.jpg)

FIRST!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 12, 2009, 08:26:13 PM
LoL, first indeed!  Pokehot!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Kit on May 12, 2009, 08:31:30 PM
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b350/SubTank123/eweyweyweywe3.jpg) (http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b350/SubTank123/eweyweyweywe3.jpg)

FIRST!

It looks like she'll...*puts on sunglasses*...be catching something
YYYEEEEEEAAAAAHHHHHHH
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: HyperSonicEXE on May 13, 2009, 12:56:12 AM
Quote
-September 11th Release Date

So...we're Kanto?

Oh yeah, few other people are finding the new girl cute, but I think she's fine.
May > Misty > New Girl > Crys = Dawn
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gotham Ranger on May 13, 2009, 01:11:49 AM
Wow? Really? Already?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on May 13, 2009, 01:25:14 AM
FIRST!

(http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/3527/1242163178630.jpg)
(http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/7350/1242165977659.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on May 13, 2009, 01:30:18 AM
Well, if she's cute enough, instant popularity for her. She must be the new Silver/Gold/Whatever. Meaning Silver might get a new name.. so will the main hero and heroine, it happened with Fire/Red and Leaf/Green.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on May 13, 2009, 02:01:50 AM
Female trainer's cute and all, but she's got nothing on Crystal's.  Oh well...

STILL hoping for my Extremespeed Dragonite... 8D

It's a shame he's useless now that Aura Sphere is available to Mewtwo.
Oh, the fun times we had... 8)  (Hey, Mewtwo damn well deserves it after G/S killed his Special Defense)

Actually, it's very well possible for Tyranitar to survive an Aura Sphere, what with the Sandstream giving him an automatic Special Defense boost.  Of course, even if you do, he'll be hanging on by a thread.  But it does depend on a lot of stuff, and it's not as if there aren't enough Earthquakers out there to finish him off.

If you're gonna call a pokemon useless because it has a counter, pretty much every pokemon ever is useless.

Mewtwo's banned from standard play anyway.
Correction: Every MOVE SET is useless.  There are a fair share of Pokemon that have no counter to all possible sets.

All the more reason to use him!
Damn straight.

I have to find the concept of "standard play" laughable, though.  It's all fan-based opinion, merely popular opinion, and carries its fair share of double-standards.  And Nintendo freaking bans Rotom and Phione, so I'm certainly not looking to them for any consistency.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on May 13, 2009, 02:12:57 AM
Well, event pokemon do have a reason to be banned.. probably because of certain moves, though I don't play by rules, I might teach ExtremeSpeed to my Jolteon (if I had the TM, or it's in it's movepool)! It's all for the game though.. Well, plenty of people do like the new girl though.. well, she has that Voltorb-sized hat (meaning big enough to hide Voltorb and other small pokemon).. eh.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on May 13, 2009, 02:23:42 AM
Neither Rotom nor Phione are Event Pokemon.  You're thinking of Manaphy.  Phione is bred from Manaphy but lacks its signature Tail Glow move, and has far weaker stats.  And Rotom is caught in-game.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on May 13, 2009, 02:24:41 AM
Oddly, they ban it anyway.. must be the extra forms.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on May 13, 2009, 03:14:44 AM
Curious about those extra forms for Rotom, Shaymin's Sky form and Giratina's Origin form (shut up, adding the e to form looks really retarded) in that they give us them yet we can't even conceivably use them. It just makes me feel like what was even the point of having them.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on May 13, 2009, 03:17:05 AM
I haven't been keeping up with this, what's the latest news, sum it all up into one post, kthnx.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on May 13, 2009, 03:23:22 AM
Though, I might give a shot at drawing Ms Big Hat.. I'm guessing that when G/S is finished, there might be an RPM tourney using these games because we would have the Johto'mon and the Nat. Dex be completed by then after we buy the games.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 13, 2009, 03:28:10 AM
I just enjoy watching people go "WTF YOU CANT USE THAT IT'S BANNED" like having a Darkrai lay waste to their team by putting everyone to sleep, having Mewtwo wreck house, and Arceus that does whatever the hell it wants, Manaphy.

Okay well whatever. I can't really see the appeal of just sending out Darkrai and spamming A until the entire enemy team's down, but okay. Time to breed like six hundred more Elekid so I can finally get a good one, woo.


I haven't been keeping up with this, what's the latest news, sum it all up into one post, kthnx.

They're making remakes of Gold and Silver.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Waifu on May 13, 2009, 03:32:03 AM
(http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/3527/1242163178630.jpg)
(http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/7350/1242165977659.jpg)

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b350/SubTank123/eweyweyweywe3.jpg) (http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b350/SubTank123/eweyweyweywe3.jpg)

FIRST!

Japan is fast. Already they had made some doujins or ecchi art on this girl trainer.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 13, 2009, 03:33:40 AM
Do you know what a doujin is?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on May 13, 2009, 03:35:06 AM
Okay well whatever. I can't really see the appeal of just sending out Darkrai and spamming A until the entire enemy team's down, but okay.
Protip: Spamming A means only spamming Hypnosis, which will do nothing after the first time. Nice attempt though! 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 13, 2009, 03:38:27 AM
Hey, I said spamming A, I never said spamming A without using the d pad at all.


Also why are you using Hypnosis when you have Dark Void available? That's like the whole point of Darkrai.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on May 13, 2009, 03:39:53 AM
Actually, one swaps another, then the foe's entire team is snoozed. Then avoid wake-up moves like Dream Eater and Wake-Up slap.. and hit him with everything you got, following by repeatingly using Dark Void, then you'd pretty much gunned him down to nothing but a Magikarp. 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on May 13, 2009, 03:43:20 AM
I haven't cared enough to level up Darkrai. Dark Void would be what I'd replace it with, but I can't be bothered to run around level grinding. At that point, I'd rather just ask my friend to get a stack of Rare Candies ready.

Darkrai only lives as a stalling agent in my team, so there's other ones lying in the benches. Just because I don't subscribe to tourney [Top Spin] rules doesn't mean I don't subscribe to good move strategy. That's pretty much a must in every generation of the game.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on May 13, 2009, 04:54:18 AM
I'm just wondering if anyone would help me with a moveset for my Feraligtr.  I pumped him up on all the attack EVs I could give him, just need to know what to do next.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 13, 2009, 05:49:40 AM
Actually, it's very well possible for Tyranitar to survive an Aura Sphere, what with the Sandstream giving him an automatic Special Defense boost.  Of course, even if you do, he'll be hanging on by a thread.  But it does depend on a lot of stuff, and it's not as if there aren't enough Earthquakers out there to finish him off.

He could stand up to an Earthquake at least.  But Aura Sphere either leaves him with a sliver of health, or outright kills him, especially against Mewtwo, who really needs NO extra help. 
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 13, 2009, 08:32:04 AM
I'm just wondering if anyone would help me with a moveset for my Feraligtr.  I pumped him up on all the attack EVs I could give him, just need to know what to do next.
This could help you consider. (http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/feraligatr)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 13, 2009, 12:35:03 PM
Found this:
(http://i44.tinypic.com/293u0xz.png)

Here, have a bigger version with shitty quality. (http://i43.tinypic.com/2ciq0k.png)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on May 13, 2009, 01:17:32 PM
Looks a bit dull. Clearly this isn't the final design but more a placeholder to give people an idea of how it'll work.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 13, 2009, 01:24:31 PM
Well, Pokebeach has slightly better quality pics. (http://pokebeach.com/2009/05/clearer-close-ups-of-corocoro-pages)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Waifu on May 13, 2009, 06:56:03 PM
I use to be a pokemon fanatic who had been to various fansites but wow seeing fansites with all the info you want is...wow.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 14, 2009, 12:45:02 AM
(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h192/AlexBCA/corocoro-2.jpg)(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h192/AlexBCA/corocoro-1.jpg)
Man I missed a lot of stuff but now I have to wonder is why do the female trainers almost always gets the weird hats while the male trainers usually get either baseball caps in RGBY and GSC, that cool looking headband thing in RSE, and that weird beret thing in DPP?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on May 14, 2009, 01:28:23 AM
Man I missed a lot of stuff but now I have to wonder is why do the female trainers almost always gets the weird hats while the male trainers usually get either baseball caps in RGBY and GSC, that cool looking headband thing in RSE, and that weird beret thing in DPP?

It's probably Nintendo's fashion, methinks.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 14, 2009, 01:47:01 AM
(http://i42.tinypic.com/fve71k.jpg) (http://i40.tinypic.com/2uq1yq8.jpg)

http://i42.tinypic.com/fve71k.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/2uq1yq8.jpg
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on May 14, 2009, 02:06:55 AM
Oh goodie, Arceus returns.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 14, 2009, 02:07:56 AM
Oh goodie, Arceus returns.

That's D/P/P [parasitic bomb].
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 14, 2009, 03:21:32 AM
Man I missed a lot of stuff but now I have to wonder is why do the female trainers almost always gets the weird hats while the male trainers usually get either baseball caps in RGBY and GSC, that cool looking headband thing in RSE, and that weird beret thing in DPP?

I don't think it gets any wierder than Ruby's hat in the manga, though. It's like he's wearing a bag on his head or something, s'ridiculous.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 14, 2009, 03:29:25 AM
I don't think it gets any wierder than Ruby's hat in the manga, though. It's like he's wearing a bag on his head or something, s'ridiculous.
Can you show me picture if possible I never read the Ruby and Sapphire manga.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 14, 2009, 03:37:56 AM
Remember how Ruby's male main looks? Here's a hint, the white in his head is NOT his hair.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 14, 2009, 03:39:37 AM
Remember how Ruby's male main looks? Here's a hint, the white in his head is NOT his hair.
Oh that's Ruby, I see.  I think I remember hearing that once before.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: HyperSonicEXE on May 14, 2009, 07:17:30 AM
Oho, so Gold and Silver, WITH Arceus?

I'm...probably sold...maybe...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 14, 2009, 07:31:49 AM
Oho, so Gold and Silver, WITH Arceus?

I'm...probably sold...maybe...
It's not GS-related.

Quote from: Water Pokemon Master
In regards to the shiny Pichu that you can download for preordering a 12th movie ticket, "Pikachu-Colored Pichu," it is now confirmed that it will activate an event when transferred from Platinum to the games. The magazine says, "It looks like having Pikachu-Colored Pichu in your party triggers an event with Notched-Ear Pichu." So the Pichu will definitely be a special one like the movie Regigigas last year, which unlocked the caverns of the other Regis in Platinum. This information also confirms that the Notched-Ear Pichu will be in the games and is not just a movie-exclusive character. Considering that the event takes place in Ilex Forest, and this is just speculation, one of the Pichu might have something to do with the GS Ball.

The Arceus section in the scans is just showing its different PokeDex entries in Diamond and Pearl. It also says that in Platinum, you can hear the legend of Arceus from a hiker in the Oreburgh Mine and then later in the Canalave Library when you have the Arceus from the movie event in your party. The legend just summarizes what we already know about the legendaries of Sinnoh in that Arceus is the creator and Dialga, Palkia, and the lake trio were born from it.

Source: Pokebeach.com (http://pokebeach.com/2009/05/more-heartgold-soulsilver-scans-famitsu-magazine)


Remember how Ruby's male main looks? Here's a hint, the white in his head is NOT his hair.
Wait, some people still think the white is his hair?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 14, 2009, 07:33:36 AM
I did until today...I wish I still did, now he isn't my favorite trainer anymore.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 14, 2009, 07:41:35 AM
(http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/9606/1228280221295.png)

He may have a silly hat, but he did take on a Salamence with his bare hands. That's pretty awesome. He should get respect for that.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 14, 2009, 07:42:57 AM
I so need to start reading the manga again. How far are the scanlations?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: borockman on May 14, 2009, 07:45:23 AM
What? so that's not his hair!?

Wow, talking about mindcrush.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 14, 2009, 07:51:49 AM
I so need to start reading the manga again. How far are the scanlations?

Beats me, I don't read 'em. I just save individual pages that people post if they look interesting.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 14, 2009, 08:49:18 AM
There are scanlations? XD
All I know is that I have up till Volume 29, the end of the Battle Frontier arc.

And...
He may have a silly hat, but he did take on a Salamence with his bare hands. That's pretty awesome. He should get respect for that.
Yep, he's just that awesome.

Posted on: May 14, 2009, 14:11:05
Forgot to mention the new stuff unlocked by having Movie-Arceus in your Platinum team. (http://www.serebii.net/platinum/arceus.shtml)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on May 14, 2009, 05:59:11 PM
In-coming fake rumor source. >U<

Quote
- Male character's name confirmed as 'Gold'
- New female lead is Tsubomi, associated with Chikorita and related to Leaf, acts as support character
- Kanto included in its full scale
- Pokemon in first slot will follow you; height limit
- Menu has been allocated to the touch screen
- Can set more than one item
- Euisine, Crystal, Leaf, Cynthia, Drake and Giovanni are to return
- Silver & Giovanni storyline
- All gyms have been redesigned
- New TMs
- New radio channels
- Trainer House and Battle Frontier are back
- Pokemon contests
- Weather conditions on certain routes and new weather, 'Gale'
- More 3D aspects
- Minigames such as 'Apricorn Hunt', 'ヤドン発条' (Slowpoke Spring?), 'Bug Battle Tournament'
- Sky zones
- Compatible with D/P/Pt
- 2 new formes
- Celebi storyline
- Having Pikachu-Colored Pichu in your party triggers an event with Notched-Ear Pichu
- Enhanced features through DSi camera
- A NEW POKEMON

More features to be announced next month, anime tie-in.

Your thoughts?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 14, 2009, 06:05:56 PM
Again, if my Pokemon always follows me around, then I might have to never level Pyre Heart up.  Heh, we'll see though. 
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 14, 2009, 06:07:34 PM
Silver and Giovanni storyline?
Man, that would be awesome.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Blackhook on May 14, 2009, 06:11:27 PM
If most of that is true, then I will have a reason to buy a DS now...... -_-...who am I kidding
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on May 14, 2009, 06:12:57 PM
Can we now officially say that 2009 has the potential to kick massive amounts of ass in terms of gaming? XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 14, 2009, 06:13:47 PM
You know, I just realized...

...I [tornado fang]ing love the G/S reg. Battle Theme, and I'm looking forward to the Remix.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on May 14, 2009, 06:15:45 PM
Man, you have no idea how much I'm looking forward to just the soundtrack for this game.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 14, 2009, 06:19:26 PM
I still <3 the Melee remix of the G/S Battle Theme too.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on May 14, 2009, 06:28:12 PM
Of course, I was expecting to be compatible with D/P/Pt.. and let me guess, who is running the rumor mill besides the Brazilians? 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gotham Ranger on May 14, 2009, 11:19:10 PM
I just want my Cyndaquil.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sparky on May 15, 2009, 01:51:34 AM
I'm hoping the full-scale Kanto thing is true, for a reason I should stop bringing up. >_>

As for the supposed height limit, if it's true, it better be taller than Gengar.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: HyperSonicEXE on May 15, 2009, 01:56:55 AM
1. Safari Zone
2. Battling Red
3. Delicious Time-Skip Misty
4. Cinnabar Island restored
5. Battling Mewtwo
6. Delicious Time-Skip Misty
7. Delicious Time-Skip Misty
8. Delicious Time-Skip Misty
Hula girls! Hula girls! Hula girls!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Waifu on May 15, 2009, 06:42:47 AM
Those blasted contests.....and Delicious Time-Skip Misty.  8)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 15, 2009, 07:55:20 AM
You people and your Misty...
What of Erika? Sabrina? Janine!?
Wait... Janine... Ehh... -_-
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 15, 2009, 04:13:19 PM
(http://i41.tinypic.com/2i8zuo9.png)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: shinobigoomba on May 16, 2009, 04:35:41 AM
Looks like Lugia got promoted.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Lunar Knight Zeke on May 16, 2009, 05:05:38 AM
Apparently, I'm not the only one that noticed that the new girl resembled Mario:

http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/455133/bandana-boots-cabbie_hat-crossover-hat-mushroom-ni

http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/455145/-black_eyes-black_hair-brown_eyes-brown_hair-cabbi

Also:

http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/455690/bike_shorts-blue_hair-brown_hair-cabbie_hat-compar
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 16, 2009, 05:54:48 AM
She's the long lost sister of Crystal.
Yep, that's it! XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 17, 2009, 08:55:24 AM
[tornado fang] yeah! [parasitic bomb] we already know about! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi0G3BK4N1U) 8D

The music sounds pretty good from what I can hear. >.>;
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 17, 2009, 09:01:53 AM
Well, it's remade for the DS, the music has to be good... XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: HyperSonicEXE on May 18, 2009, 02:02:56 AM
You people and your Misty...
What of Erika? Sabrina? Janine!?
Wait... Janine... Ehh... -_-

Actually, I'm more of a May, Flannery, or Delia type, myself.

But Delicious Time-Skip Misty is the only relevant choice in G/S.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gotham Ranger on May 18, 2009, 02:16:47 AM
I can't get over how bad the trainers look this time
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on May 18, 2009, 02:18:32 AM
Are they really that bad looking?

Really? Granted I kinda miss Gold's (Silver's for me) "beat your ass" smirk. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: HyperSonicEXE on May 18, 2009, 02:34:36 AM
Granted, there is a unique, identifiable charm to the RBYGSC art, but this new style is apparently more marketable and more in line with the anime designs. I wouldn't say it's horrible, though. But then, you know me,

Que será, será.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 05, 2009, 11:41:51 AM
Haha, not real HGSS news, those will be coming next week.

There is however, a new Pokemon game coming out.
It's called "Melee! Pokemon Scramble!". (Lol, sounds familiar? XD)
This new WiiWare game with be available on the 16th of June in Japan, and will be worth 1500 WiiPoints.

By using Pokemon from your games, you can pit them against other Pokemon in a Battle Royale, using the WiiMote or Nunchucks to control your Pokemon.
There also seems to be a story mode with levels, and there's a Legendary Pokemon Final Boss of sorts.
You can also take screenshots of the battles, and up to 4 players can be connected to brawl it all out.
Some screenshots can be found here (http://www.serebii.net/melee/pics.shtml).

Source: Serebii.net (http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml)

Posted on: June 05, 2009, 17:36:24
Hmm, reading the same news over at Pokebeach gives a different view of the game.
Source: Pokebeach.com (http://pokebeach.com/2009/06/new-wiiware-game-melee-pokemon-scramble)

Quote from: Water Pokemon Master
The game is basically this: You own Pokemon toys, wind them up, and then they fight in a ring until only one toy remains. As you play the game and advance, you collect new Pokemon toys. Each Pokemon toy has two attacks. On the Wii remote you use buttons 1 and 2 to select different attacks. For example, Garchomp's button 1 is Dragon Rage while button 2 is Crunch. As you progress through the game you earn coins which can be used to teach your Pokemon new techniques.

Before you are able to do anything, you send out your Pokemon to fight wild Pokemon. The Pokemon can roam freely using the D-pad and use a variety of moves, so it isn't as restrictive as the main series where you just choose attacks and Pokemon launch them. Wild Pokemon join you on your journey, and when they drop a "P" item on the ground, you can recruit additional Pokemon. After a while if you release some of the Pokemon you have encountered, the Pokemon gives you a parting gift - a ticket. The ticket can be used to recruit even stronger Pokemon. Once you gain a certain amount of strength and experience, you can participate in a Battle Royal. A Battle Royal is when you send your Pokemon out into an arena and it has to defeat 100 Pokemon. At the end of every level there is a Boss Pokemon you have to fight, which is a Legendary.

Up to four players can battle each other. If you have multiple Wii remotes, you can use them along with the Nunchucks for cooperative play. Additionally, photos can be taken during each match and your Pokemon toys can be stored on your Wii remote. After the game is released, the official Pokemon site will release passwords that you can redeem for rare Pokemon toys.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on June 05, 2009, 11:47:34 AM
Related to Wily II's news: Pokemon Scramble PV (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQWdLGvYLW0)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on June 05, 2009, 01:09:17 PM
Day 1 Live Stream nya~ >U<
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 05, 2009, 01:13:31 PM
Yea~ Day 1 watch~
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on June 07, 2009, 04:16:59 AM
HG/SS News:

A pedometer called PokéWalk has been announced. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC0sdNB0SvI)

Read about details here (http://serebii.net/index2.shtml).

Edit: Or read this quote.
Quote from: PokéBeach
Today, Pokemon Sunday announced that a pedometer called the "PokeWalk" will be handed out to players who purchase HeartGold and SoulSilver. You can transfer a Pokemon from your game to the device and as you walk, your Pokemon will gain experience, happiness, and will level-up depending on the amount of steps you take. The pedometer is tiny and Poke Ball-shaped, featuring a black and white display with a sprite of your Pokemon as well as three buttons. We'll know more about its functions closer to the release of HeartGold and SoulSilver so stay tuned.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: SoulAnimal on June 07, 2009, 04:30:32 AM
I Need to give that to my spanish teacher when she runs her marathons

FREE LEVEL UPS!  8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on June 07, 2009, 04:39:40 AM
The REAL question is, can it hatch eggs too? It sounds like a fitting job for it XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 07, 2009, 09:00:35 AM
Hmm, this concept sounds VERY famillar...
Oh yeah, Pokemon Pikachu/Pokemon Pikachu 2 GS had a similar idea, where you walk to get watts to feed Pikachu.

Very interesting...
Walking and level-up, will you get EVs this way too? 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on June 07, 2009, 09:02:51 AM
Hmm, this concept sounds VERY famillar...
Oh yeah, Pokemon Pikachu/Pokemon Pikachu 2 GS had a similar idea, where you walk to get watts to feed Pikachu.

No [parasitic bomb]. >_>
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 07, 2009, 09:03:38 AM
Oh you. >_>
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: SoulAnimal on June 08, 2009, 12:22:31 AM
Hey hey dont fight here and make the thread go off  :)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on June 08, 2009, 12:45:50 AM
They are trying this stunt again? Go figure. We all know how that went. >>

inb4noshitsherlock
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: SoulAnimal on June 08, 2009, 02:47:30 AM
inb4noshitsherlock
Same  :O
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on June 09, 2009, 03:54:30 AM
More PokéWalker info:

(http://i41.tinypic.com/2yo91yd.jpg)

Quote from: PokéBeach
Both the Japanese Pokemon website and IGN have posted new information regarding the PokeWalker.

The pedometer will convert your steps into the watt, a currency that can be used to catch wild Pokemon and to shop for "tools." It is unknown what these tools are (perhaps they mean items?) or how you will be able to catch any wild Pokemon, but anything you gain on the pedometer will wirelessly transfer back to HeartGold and SoulSilver. This may be similar to the Pokemon Pikachu 2 gigapet, where every 20 steps you took converted into one watt which could then be transferred to Gold, Silver, and Crystal and redeemed for special items. The pedometer will also include mini-games, though not much is known about them at this point.

The device itself will weight 21 grams at a thickness of 13.9mm and a diameter of 48mm, featuring a key chain hole on the top.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Waifu on June 09, 2009, 04:57:57 AM
Forgive me, for my ignorance and immaturity but Pedometer doesn't really sound right.  :-[  :|
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 09, 2009, 09:01:19 AM
Yep, just like Pokemon Pikachu 2. XD
And cool, wireless transfer back to HGSS.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on June 09, 2009, 06:27:31 PM
The return of the pedometer that was absent since G/S/C returns, only updated.. snap. does this come bundled with HG/SS?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gotham Ranger on June 09, 2009, 06:31:33 PM
Watch Japan get it and not us :|
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on June 09, 2009, 08:00:41 PM
You know, we got Pokemon Pikachu 1 + 2, so? we can still get the pedometer from sites like Ebay and other sites online (and since there are marathon runners in the states, just wait until they get it in-state first).

But then there's America's silly scares that actually hurt businesses in the states. It's a 50/50 chance we might get it, unlike the Megaman goods, which are rarer.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on June 10, 2009, 02:41:23 PM
(http://i41.tinypic.com/a1n38l.jpg)(http://i44.tinypic.com/29wspat.jpg)(http://i44.tinypic.com/2cik804.jpg)

Quote from: PokéBeach
New scans from July's issue of CoroCoro have surfaced on Japanese image boards. According to Heerosferret, the first scan featuring the silhouettes of Kyogre, Groudon, and Rayquaza states that once you beat the Elite Four in HeartGold, Kyogre will appear in the wild, whereas when you beat them in SoulSilver, Groudon will appear. Once you capture the Pokemon corresponding to your game and unite it with the other legendary traded over from another copy of HeartGold or SoulSilver, Rayquaza will appear and you can snatch it as well.

More scans should be coming in today or possibly later in the week. The second scan just shows off Professor Elm's lab, depicts the Rival's new artwork, and shows a Team Rocket grunt. The third scan featuring Cynthia states, "Witness the birth of Arceus and Legendary Pokemon," but we are unsure if the scan is referring to Platinum's Arceus legend, the 12th movie, or what.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 10, 2009, 02:52:26 PM
I seriously have no idea how Kyogre/Groudon/Rayquaza fits into this story... Besides the fact of making these 3 appear in a DS Pokemon game...

Though Silver looks better, and so does the Rocket gal...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on June 10, 2009, 03:23:01 PM
Wonder if we could trade over a Groudon or Kyogre from RSE to substitute trading, in case someone doesn't have it.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on June 10, 2009, 03:58:36 PM
Another scan:

(http://i42.tinypic.com/14lpqmp.jpg)

Quote from: PokéBeach
The fourth scan, which shows Arceus and Cynthia together in HeartGold and SoulSilver, shows someone saying that they were "given the right to choose one life out of three." It is unclear if Cynthia or Arceus is speaking the line or who the line is referring to. It could be in reference to Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina, as there are three symbols on the floor and Arceus rules over those Pokemon. This scene is most likely a hidden event, as it would be hard to imagine Arceus or Cynthia appearing in the timeline of the second generation. Perhaps if you trade the Japanese movie Arceus to the two games, you will unlock an event where you can capture one of the Dragon Trio, thus "saving" them. This is just speculation of course.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 10, 2009, 04:23:42 PM
*Shakes fist at possible event*
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Blackhook on June 10, 2009, 06:06:03 PM
Wouldn´t that make waaay too many legendary Pokémon in one game?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on June 10, 2009, 06:08:40 PM
It'd be awesome if we could actually travel to the other regions as well.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 10, 2009, 06:11:11 PM
Wouldn´t that make waaay too many legendary Pokémon in one game?
G/S: Ho-oh/Lugia, Entei, Raikou, Suicune (4)
HG: Ho-oh, Entei, Raikou, Suicune, Kyogre (5)
SS: Lugia, Entei, Raikou, Suicune, Groudon (5)
Platinum: Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Uxie, Mesprit, Azelf, Heatran, Cresselia, Regigigas, Articuno, Moltres, Zapdos (12)

Nope.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on June 10, 2009, 06:15:47 PM
Platinum's worse than Emerald. D:
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 10, 2009, 06:20:17 PM
Let's see...
Emerald: Groudon, Kyogre, Rayquaza, Regirock, Regice, Registeel, Latios/Latias (7) (Ho-Oh, Lugia, Deoxys, Jirachi events = 11)
And if we add event Manaphy, Shaymin, Darkrai and Arceus, Platinum gives a whooping 16 Legendaries, if you consider Rotom and Phione, then 18.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on June 10, 2009, 06:24:31 PM
And that's terrible.




Also right now I am resetting to get a good Groudon.

Guess how fun it is everyone!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 10, 2009, 06:27:24 PM
Very fun indeed!
The one in Emerald or Ruby?

And I seemed to have forgotten event Mew in Emerald... So that makes 12!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on June 10, 2009, 06:31:36 PM
Ruby.


It may take like ten tries just to get a good nature, but at least I don't have to put up with it Resting at me. Or so I tell myself.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on June 10, 2009, 06:55:26 PM
Why are they doing this, even though I already ported them into my Diamond long ago? Madness. I'm betting the next couple of versions, there would be 130 lengendaries on a single card.

I do like Silver's redesign, and the rocket girl does have a nice facial redesign. Elm does get the hair treatment too.

Still, it's kind of silly to attempt to re-snag Palkia, Dialga, and Giratina, I'm planning on getting Platinum just for Palkia, as I already have my Diamond Dialga and Diamond Giratina.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Blackhook on June 10, 2009, 06:59:49 PM
Why isn´t crystal being remade?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 10, 2009, 07:02:10 PM
Brich does get the hair treatment too.
Professor Elm. -_-
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on June 10, 2009, 07:03:52 PM
Well, two cents say that they'll remake it along with Sun Yellow, in any case as Glamouring Crystal.

Professor Elm. -_-

Damn you R/S, DAMN YOU!!!! XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gotham Ranger on June 10, 2009, 07:04:10 PM
Can you really top the GOD when it comes to Pokemon? Seriously. No more. The 5th Gen just needs to be EVERY POKEMON EVER on one card. None of this trade to one version BS. It'll be one version. Pokemon Oh My God Look At All These Frikken Pokemon.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on June 10, 2009, 09:43:49 PM
They won't remake the tertiary releases. The idea is that they incorporate was was already laid out as groundwork from Yellow and Crystal, removing some of the more useless items and gimmicks (or save them for later in certain cases) and then they work in the new additions from the current generation.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on June 11, 2009, 01:32:49 AM
So, Hoenn's 'mans are the first old-legends revealed?  *sighs*

These games had better have some frikkin' Mewtwo, is all I can say, lest Nintendo receive many boots to the head.  We ARE supposed to be revisiting Kanto in G/S, after all...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 11, 2009, 09:29:16 AM
Well, it looks like another legendary is revealed. This time it's Jirachi.
A special distribution of this Jirachi will begin on June 19th, and will be at level 5, plus knowing some "special" moves.
When you trade him over to HGSS, a new area will unlock.

Source: Serebii.net (http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml)

Pokebeach (http://pokebeach.com/2009/06/kyogre-groudon-and-rayquaza-in-heartgold-and-soulsilver) has a bit more information.
Quote from: Water Pokemon Master
A new scan of Jirachi has surfaced. The scan is way too blurry to read, but posters on 2ch who have CoroCoro are providing summaries of the info. How accurate their posts are we do not know - we will probably have to wait a few more days for clearer scans to determine their validity. However, they state that a Jirachi download is going to take place in June. The new WiiWare game Melee! Pokemon Scramble! appears on the bottom of the page and is coming out in a few days, so perhaps Jirachi is a present that you can download with the game. When you trade the Jirachi to HeartGold and SoulSilver, it will unlock a new area called "Edge of the Night Sky."
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on June 11, 2009, 09:36:14 AM
You could've at least posted the pic too. >_>

(http://i42.tinypic.com/ad146h.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 11, 2009, 09:38:00 AM
I usually leave that to you. >.>;
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on June 11, 2009, 03:09:25 PM
I usually leave that to you. >.>;

I see. In that case...

Here, have some box art:

(http://i40.tinypic.com/2czpth3.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 11, 2009, 03:15:32 PM
Looks... rather plain. 8D

Well, with regards to the earlier Jirachi news, Pokebeach (http://pokebeach.com/2009/06/jirachi-distribution-scramble-promotion-at-japanese-mcdonalds) has some confirmation.
Quote from:  Water Pokemon Master
A McDonalds promotion will take place in Japan from June 19th to July 17th in which customers can download a special Jirachi through Mystery Gift. As we already found out in the previous news story, the Jirachi will unlock something special in HeartGold and SoulSilver, rumored to be a hidden area called "Edge of the Night Sky."

Additionally, McDonalds will allow players to download some of the Pokemon toys from Melee! Pokemon Scramble to their DS, including Bulbasaur, Charmander, Squirtle, Turtwig, Piplup, Chimchar, Garchomp, Pikachu, Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Mewtwo, Articuno, Zapdos, and Moltres (all 1st and 4th generation Pokemon!). When they have collected all of the Pokemon, they can earn McDonalds coupons. Basically, the promotion is just a gimmicky advertisement for the game.

And, have a pic, have a Big Mac... Or something.
(http://i39.tinypic.com/10fp4x3.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gotham Ranger on June 11, 2009, 05:57:41 PM
Japan needs to stop getting all the awesome. I'd buy a big mac for some pokemon
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Thanatos-Zero on June 11, 2009, 07:44:09 PM
I have the old versions and they are good as they are.
I would consider to buy all these new Pokemon Games, only when they bring back the good and old EV (Effort Value) System, which allows you to give any Pokemon not 510 EV but 1530 EV, meaning all stats maximised. That is my personal wish, but as long as they keep the new EV System, I will keep playing RBY and GSC.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Waifu on June 12, 2009, 02:55:46 AM
I am playing Crystal right now as the girl and Jirachi on my G/S remake, does not compute.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on June 12, 2009, 11:01:24 PM
Full scans and info:

(http://i39.tinypic.com/b8qyi8.jpg)(http://i42.tinypic.com/xfn62w.jpg)
(http://i39.tinypic.com/2zztc3d.jpg)(http://i39.tinypic.com/24x009x.jpg)

Quote from: Pokemon Aus24
New Information:
- All 493 Pokemon can follow you around, you can see Steelix and Wobbuffet following the trainers in the scans.

- You can interact with your Pokemon to see how they feel towards you like with Pikachu in Pokemon Yellow.

- The PokeDex, Computer Boxes and your bag have been given a totally new layout utilizing the touchscreen.

- You will be able to travel back to Kanto in HeartGold and SoulSilver and new exclusive locations have been added.

- You must have your "Pikachu Coloured Pichu" following you in Ilex forest to activate the Notched Eared Pichu event.

- Pre-order HeartGold and get a Ho-Oh figure, pre-order SoulSilver and get a Lugia figure, pre-order both and get both figures and an Arceus one.

- The Mc Donalds Jirachi is to be sent to Diamond, Pearl or Platinum first then transferred to HeartGold/SoulSilver once released. It will be available in Japan from June 19th until July 17th.

-The Jirachi is Level 5 and knows Draco Meteor, Rest, Wish and Confusion and is holding a Liechi Berry.

- Kyogre appears in HeartGold whilst Groudon appears in SoulSilver, if you bring the two together in the same game then Rayquaza will also be unlocked.

- Cynthia appears in the remakes when the Arceus event is activated. Apparently transferring your Movie Arceus to HeartGold/SoulSilver will activate this event and in-turn allow you to capture your chose of either a Level 1 Dialga, Palkia or Giratina.

- A male and female Team Rocket member can be seen, they are presumably Rocket Grunts.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on June 12, 2009, 11:11:33 PM
Quote
- All 493 Pokemon can follow you around, you can see Steelix and Wobbuffet following the trainers in the scans.

- You can interact with your Pokemon to see how they feel towards you like with Pikachu in Pokemon Yellow.

- The PokeDex, Computer Boxes and your bag have been given a totally new layout utilizing the touchscreen.

Yes

Quote
- You will be able to travel back to Kanto in HeartGold and SoulSilver and new exclusive locations have been added.

Very yes!

Quote
- Pre-order HeartGold and get a Ho-Oh figure, pre-order SoulSilver and get a Lugia figure, pre-order both and get both figures and an Arceus one.

I want those D:

Quote
- Cynthia appears in the remakes when the Arceus event is activated. Apparently transferring your Movie Arceus to HeartGold/SoulSilver will activate this event and in-turn allow you to capture your chose of either a Level 1 Dialga, Palkia or Giratina.

Level 1? Feels odd.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on June 12, 2009, 11:39:04 PM
Level 1? Feels odd.

My point as to why they are Lv1 is that once you get them, you can speed-level them, and get access to nearly all their Lv30 and below moves.

And for a quick note: I love speed-leveling Lv1's. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: SoulAnimal on June 12, 2009, 11:49:10 PM
Sweet! That will be one more Giratina to my never-ending giratina collection!
( At the monent : 10 giratinas , ifya wanna know how i got them just post )
But... how do u get pkiachu colored pichu?
And dammit! i have all of the movie pokemon but arceus
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on June 12, 2009, 11:56:39 PM
I thought that Lengendaries were unbreedable? Am I doing something wrong? Or do you have all three versions with Giratina captured or unless AR'ed, that is questionable.

Pikachu-colored-pichu is probably through some event, like Arceus.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: SoulAnimal on June 13, 2009, 12:45:27 AM
No , giratina is UNBREEDABLE i tried. Did'nt work.
So my giratinas came from..

1 from my Diamond
1 From my Platinum
1 from my Pearl , before its save was erased
1 from my friends (Rachel) Pearl , which is really mine , but she can have it cuz her parents dont wanna buy her a Pearl
1 from my friend adam's Pearl before it got corrupted
1 from AR ( this one i never use , it was my pokesav testing , and it came out legit ( web testing ) , so it seems fine! )
2 From GTS
1 from a person on my favorite chat webstie willing to trade it to me for my non-hacked shiny Budew
and the last one is from...
my BFF wanting to be BF Joe! He gave me the  1 Giratina , and gave me a everstone with it for my pichu!  8D

Yay 10! , and most of them know diff movesets
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Pringer X on June 13, 2009, 12:56:01 AM
But... how do u get pkiachu colored pichu?

You'll need the movie Arceus.

That's actually something that's ticked me off about the games, lately you need the movie versions of the legendaries in order to unlock all of these extras or have certain other Pokemon. You need the movie Regigigas to get a lv. 30 Regice, Regirock, and Registeel, and that unlocks a lv. 1 Regigigas (or something like that), you need the movie Shaymin in order to get access to it's Sky Forme, and movie Darkrai is the only way you'll get Dialga's and Palkia's signature moves onto it, and movie Arceus gets you a lv. 1 Legendary Dragon Trio member and the Pikachu colored Pichu. That's all fine and dandy in Japan, but I don't recall too many opportunities for anyone outside of the land of the rising sun to get one of those son-of-a-bitches >< It's usually select places that are far off that have them, or few select stores for the particular company. The gamestop in the area that I was at didn't have a download station thing for the Deoxys that was available.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on June 13, 2009, 01:01:32 AM
They could always use the Wifi Mystery Gift...

...Yeah, we're never gonna get them.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Pringer X on June 13, 2009, 01:09:14 AM
They could always use the Wifi Mystery Gift...

...Yeah, we're never gonna get them.

What's even funnier is, Nintendo released their Nintendo Channel thing on the Wii awhile ago, and quite frankly, they're really not using it. I deleted it like a month or two after it came out because there was NO point in going to it if all it had were trailers I could find on YouTube or Game Trailers. I don't recall any demos being out, and odds are if it was anything worth to snuff, there'd be reports all over about it.

On a separate note, one thing I noticed though is, right before the announcement of HGSS, someone ended up discovering that Johto was a region that Pokemon could come from, and right from a movie, awhile later, rumors flared up about HGSS, with confirmation announced about a week later.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on June 13, 2009, 01:14:11 AM
On a separate note, one thing I noticed though is, right before the announcement of HGSS, someone ended up discovering that Johto was a region that Pokemon could come from, and right from a movie, awhile later, rumors flared up about HGSS, with confirmation announced about a week later.

The discovery of Johto was WAY before that.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Pringer X on June 13, 2009, 01:16:58 AM
The discovery of Johto was WAY before that.

I could swear someone went "Hey, I just found out Johto is on the list" and then a picture was posted up, with HGSS being announced shortly after or something. I think I found out on FC or something. To be honest, I wasn't paying attention or really cared about it.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on June 13, 2009, 01:25:08 AM
What I'm wondering is (and if someone already posed this question, I'm sorry. But I'm too lazy to go through 20 pages here) the Sevii Islands will return when you go to Kanto... They could change (after all, FR/LG take place in the same time as R/B/Y, so three years have passed between FR/LG and HG/SS, so the big computer linking to R/S/E could be easily removed, right?) I think that would be awesome. Plus, two places to get Unown! Or they could sink all but the main Tanoby chamber... get the ! and ? Unown there!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 13, 2009, 05:06:05 AM
The news always pour in when I'm asleep... XD
Good to know stuff, RAGE at figurines and all 493 Pokemon can follow you around?
A few people here will be VERY happy with that. :P
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sparky on June 13, 2009, 05:15:37 AM
YEAH!

I don't care much about the figurines right now; chances are they're as tiny as the Giratina one. I'm just glad Gengar can follow me around now! 8)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: King Reaper on June 13, 2009, 07:10:37 AM
Y'know... all these new features and stuff are cool/interesting/arousing/etc, but all in all... Nintendo had my money at the first announcement of these games.
The G/S games were my favorite in the pokemon series hands-down, and these fatures don't change the fact that this game will be in my hands within a week of it's release. Maybe. Probably. I'd count on it. Wouldn't bet money, though. Need that to pay for it.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: SoulAnimal on June 13, 2009, 06:16:59 PM
My HeartGold will be here the day of the release , im preordering it nomatter what
and if i can get ym friend to preorder SS with me , yay i get free arceus  8D

*GASP* :O  :o
I CAN HAVE MY GIRATINA FOLLOW ME NOW!!!  8)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gotham Ranger on June 13, 2009, 06:38:37 PM
Why do you use so many damn emotes?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on June 13, 2009, 07:48:07 PM
I'm still debating between which version to side with. I'm leaning toward Gold as that's what I had before, similar to why I picked Leaf Green over Fire Red. However, I liked Lugia's Aeroblast much more than Ho-Oh's sacred fire, though that may be negligible due to their moves being readjusted in the generation jump between GSC and RSE.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: SoulAnimal on June 13, 2009, 09:40:04 PM
Why do you use so many damn emotes?

Because theyre out there to use  , duh  >0<
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 14, 2009, 04:43:14 AM
I CAN HAVE MY GIRATINA FOLLOW ME NOW!!!  8)
If the height limit allows it.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on June 14, 2009, 06:15:26 AM
If the height limit allows it.

Quote
- All 493 Pokemon can follow you around, you can see Steelix and Wobbuffet following the trainers in the scans.

What height limit?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 14, 2009, 06:21:36 AM
What height limit?
My bad I really need to keep up with this thread...does that mean a Wailord can follow you around?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VirusChris on June 14, 2009, 06:37:44 AM
What about a Goldeen? Will it just fly?


But seriously to have your Pokemon following, and all 493, it just plain awesome! Why they never did it for D/P/P versions I'll never know.


I'm curious, the Pokemon that follows you around is it the 1st Pokemon in your slot or will you have control of which Pokemon you want to follow you around and choose to stop your Pokemon from following you around.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Pringer X on June 14, 2009, 06:43:47 AM
But seriously to have your Pokemon following, and all 493, it just plain awesome! Why they never did it for D/P/P versions I'll never know.

Because they're grasping for straws until they come up with the 5th generation.

Honestly, I stick by with my original thoughts on this. I don't care that they're remaking Gold and Silver for the DS. Gold and Silver were revolutionary because it was the second generation, which added 100 new pokemon and added two new types, and that was completely awesome. The only real difference now is we're playing GS with DP pokemon, which sounds exciting because of the changes they'll make to the gym leaders or Elite Four, but honestly, it's pretty much the same thing over and over now. For me, it's gotten stale.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on June 14, 2009, 06:45:40 AM
Top 10 List of Pokemon to Have Following You Around

10] Mew
9] Pikachu
8] Gengar
7] Snorlax
6] Mewtwo
5] Dunsparce
4] Wailord
3] Bidoof
2] Arceus
1] Magikarp
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 14, 2009, 07:11:11 AM
What about a Goldeen? Will it just fly?


But seriously to have your Pokemon following, and all 493, it just plain awesome! Why they never did it for D/P/P versions I'll never know.


I'm curious, the Pokemon that follows you around is it the 1st Pokemon in your slot or will you have control of which Pokemon you want to follow you around and choose to stop your Pokemon from following you around.
I believe it was the pokemon the first slot last I remember.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 14, 2009, 07:52:51 AM
1] Magikarp
Seriously people, this is the golden answer.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 14, 2009, 07:54:13 AM
No Absol or Lucario?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 14, 2009, 07:58:01 AM
The sight of a flopping on land Magikarp is ALL that's needed. >0<

Speaking of which... Jelly hasn't appeared here after this piece of news.
I wonder if he's twitching on the ground right now... 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on June 14, 2009, 07:58:37 AM
As much as I want my Absol to follow me around too (and Nintendo should also so add riding Pokemon without an HM to the games >.>), the appeal of a Magikarp splashing around everywhere while following you > everyone else.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on June 14, 2009, 10:30:36 AM
I don't see Eevee on that list... moving along.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sparky on June 14, 2009, 10:54:43 AM
I don't see Eevee on that list... moving along.

I'm sorry; that spot's reserved for Gengar.  8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on June 14, 2009, 11:28:52 AM
Why the hell would you want a Gengar following you anyway? Best to keep that guy where you can see him.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on June 14, 2009, 11:35:04 AM
I'm gonna have a Crogunk following me.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sparky on June 14, 2009, 12:41:24 PM
Why the hell would you want a Gengar following you anyway? Best to keep that guy where you can see him.

I dunno about you, but I keep my Gengar in my shadow, and that's good enough for me. >>;
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 14, 2009, 02:23:20 PM
I'm gonna have a Crogunk following me.
And Poison Jab you everytime you try to flirt?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on June 14, 2009, 02:24:21 PM
And Poison Jab you everytime you try to flirt?
Pretty much.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 14, 2009, 05:38:23 PM
A tiny bit more news.

With regards to all 493 Pokemon being able to walk around with you, they seem to be able to pick up items as well, just like walking in Amity Square in DPPt. So, berries and fashion accessories. Whether it's a set set, or Pokemon-dependent, is still not known.

Source: Serebii.net (http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/partner.shtml)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on June 14, 2009, 06:17:06 PM
Wonder how this will affect Pokemon like Linoone, whose only use is to pick up things.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 14, 2009, 07:11:27 PM
Hmm, good question. XD
In my case, all Pokemon with Pickup will not be in first position. >0<
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gotham Ranger on June 14, 2009, 07:53:47 PM
Quilava for the win
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on June 14, 2009, 07:56:13 PM
Again, I think I'm gonna have to train two Cyndaquil's now.  One to follow me around at ALL times, and another to grow into Typhlosion.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 14, 2009, 09:41:00 PM
Again, I think I'm gonna have to train two Cyndaquil's now.  One to follow me around at ALL times, and another to grow into Typhlosion.
That is so cool.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on June 14, 2009, 10:32:40 PM
I'll probably have Arceus or Mew with me. But I'll definitely have a Magikarp leading at some point.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Pringer X on June 14, 2009, 11:59:56 PM
Wonder how this will affect Pokemon like Linoone, whose only use is to pick up things.

probably not much, Linoone can be anywhere on the list to pick up stuff, and odds are it will still pick up better items than whatever pokemon is following you. The higher the level, the better items Linoone got.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: HokutoNoBen on June 15, 2009, 05:27:02 AM
Yes

Very yes!

I want those D:

You echo my sentiments, Taiyo.  >0<

But any way, yes. Now I can have my trust Machamp follow me, or any of my other favorite road-dawgs, like Totodile, Charmander and etc. Preorder confirmed!  owob
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on June 15, 2009, 05:30:47 AM
Preorder confirmed!  owob

I think I'll name one of my Pidgey's "Preorder"  8)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on June 15, 2009, 05:31:17 AM
Just got back to read thing this thread and I--

HOLY [tornado fang]. Typhlosion following behind me confirmed. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 15, 2009, 07:33:50 AM
probably not much, Linoone can be anywhere on the list to pick up stuff, and odds are it will still pick up better items than whatever pokemon is following you. The higher the level, the better items Linoone got.
Yes, but the thing is, if Linoone is the lead Pokemon, will the items it picks up be due to his Pickup ability, or items ala Amity Square?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gotham Ranger on June 15, 2009, 07:36:50 AM
Screw Typhlosion. I'll stick with my Quilava.

Edit: GOD DAMN IT, RPM. Stop being god damn ninjas.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Blackhook on June 15, 2009, 02:06:37 PM
Screw Typhlosion. I'll stick with my Quilava.

Edit: GOD DAMN IT, RPM. Stop being god damn ninjas.
I don´t even know how to pronouce Typhlosion  -_- .....so I gave mine a nickname  :P
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on June 15, 2009, 03:02:36 PM
(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1629/heartgoldsoulsilverboxa.jpg)
(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/972/heartgoldsoulsilverecru.jpg)
(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/666/heartgoldsoulsilverjoht.jpg)
(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/2074/heartgoldsoulsilverjohtz.jpg)

Quote from: PokéBeach
The official Japanese Pokemon website (http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/hgss) has revealed better-quality images of HeartGold and SoulSilver's Johto map and box art in addition to a new image of Ecruteak City. No new information was revealed on the website, though we can now see that there is a new, fairly large chunk of land to the west of Cianwood City (Johto's Battle Frontier?), a new building west of Goldenrod City next to the Radio Tower, and a small new area west of National Park.

PokéWalker info:
Quote from: PokéBeach
For one, there are currently four known PokeWalker courses, each of which will have different Pokemon that you can encounter and then transfer to HeartGold and SoulSilver. They are called "Refreshing Field," "Noisy Forest," "Rugged Path," and "Edge of the Night Sky," the latter being the one that the McDonalds Jirachi unlocks once traded over to the two games (side-note: The Jirachi will also be downloadable via Wi-Fi to people with the Japanese games). The default courses are the first two, and to unlock the Rugged Path field you need to take an unconfirmed 1,000 steps. Presumably, the more steps you take with the PokeWalker, the more fields you will unlock, and the more wild Pokemon you can encounter. To encounter a wild Pokemon, you use the PokeWalker's built-in PokeRadar, which will detect wild Pokemon and then allow your Pokemon to battle it. You can also use the PokeWalker's Item Finder to find hidden items, just like in the main games. To use both items requires a certain amount of watts, or steps taken.

Also:
Quote from: PokéBeach
both Lugia and Ho-Oh are confirmed to be capturable in both games, just like in the original Gold and Silver.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 15, 2009, 03:07:02 PM
Was looking at this...
That is one beautiful image of Ecruteak City.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on June 15, 2009, 03:11:21 PM
Was looking at this...
That is one beautiful image of Ecruteak City.

Because I told you. >_>
And I agree.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 15, 2009, 03:16:28 PM
Yeah, yeah. >_>

More for speculation on the 3 new areas!
Ready? GO!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Pringer X on June 16, 2009, 07:42:33 AM
Yes, but the thing is, if Linoone is the lead Pokemon, will the items it picks up be due to his Pickup ability, or items ala Amity Square?

A combination of both maybe. Doesn't Linoone actually hold onto the item with Pickup and Pokemon in Amity Square just hand them over to you?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 16, 2009, 08:25:17 AM
Nope, you must "talk" to the Pokemon in order to get the item it holds in Amity Square.
So, it holds on to it until you "talk" to it, just like Pickup.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on June 17, 2009, 12:22:43 AM
Was looking at this...
That is one beautiful image of Ecruteak City.

Ecruteak?... is Kyoto! XD LOL
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Pringer X on June 17, 2009, 12:34:20 AM
Nope, you must "talk" to the Pokemon in order to get the item it holds in Amity Square.
So, it holds on to it until you "talk" to it, just like Pickup.

I think Pickup just lets the Pokemon hold on to it, but I don't know if the Pokemon actually holds onto the item like in Amity square though. I never bothered going there, so I don't know if they have an actual physical hold on the item like with Pickup.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on June 17, 2009, 01:58:49 AM
I know I'm late, but:

- All 493 Pokemon can follow you around, you can see Steelix and Wobbuffet following the trainers in the scans
F)*(#&$^% YEAH!  Game is sold (as if the promise of a Kanto Gym Leader remix wasn't enough).  I get to show off my DRAGONITE POWER at all times. 8)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 17, 2009, 08:14:39 AM
I think Pickup just lets the Pokemon hold on to it, but I don't know if the Pokemon actually holds onto the item like in Amity square though. I never bothered going there, so I don't know if they have an actual physical hold on the item like with Pickup.
Well, I telling you now.
It holds on to the item in Amity Square, I always go there to pick up the berries and accessories. >0<
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on June 18, 2009, 05:16:28 AM
Heart Gold and Soul Silver footage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vshYQq0OYeg)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on June 18, 2009, 05:28:28 AM
Finally, something other than screenshots. but boy are they crazy in that video.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on June 18, 2009, 05:31:02 AM
It looks like the new area in the video is called, "Shinto Iseki"... I don't know what Shinto translates to (if anything... God, maybe? Some with better moonrune knowledge help me here. :P) but the latter is obviously Ruins.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on June 18, 2009, 05:33:09 AM
My frothing demand for his game intensifies. XD

Also, that Ecruteak City picture is gorgeous.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: HokutoNoBen on June 18, 2009, 05:43:28 AM
It looks like the new area in the video is called, "Shinto Iseki"... I don't know what Shinto translates to (if anything... God, maybe? Some with better moonrune knowledge help me here. :P) but the latter is obviously Ruins.

Shinto, in itself, means "Way of the Gods".

If Palkia and his pimps are indeed involved, then, yeah, it's a fitting name for that place.

But any way...what music I heard was enough to make me squeal in delight. Oh, yeah....  owob
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Pringer X on June 18, 2009, 05:46:13 AM
It looks like the new area in the video is called, "Shinto Iseki"... I don't know what Shinto translates to (if anything... God, maybe? Some with better moonrune knowledge help me here. :P) but the latter is obviously Ruins.

Wikipedia to the rescue:

Shinto (神道, Shintō?) is the name ascribed to the non-Buddhist religious practices of Japan. The word Shinto ("Way of the Gods") was adopted from the written Chinese (神道),[1] combining two kanji: "shin" (神?), meaning gods or spirits (originally from the Chinese word shen); and "tō" (道?), or "do" meaning a philosophical path or study (originally from the Chinese word tao). The terms Kami no michi and kannagara can also be used and the meanings are very similar.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 18, 2009, 08:44:58 AM
Hmm... Notched-Ear Pichu knows Volt Tackle, and Pain Split...
And seeing Arceus walking behind... >0<
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Pringer X on June 18, 2009, 08:55:46 AM
You know what I'm expecting? Move tutors that are going to end up changing the meta game AGAIN and send the whole thing into chaos. Think about it, Platinum sent Scizor straight to the OU and several others into the UU or lower, and Dragonite was no longer the only one that could do Dragon Dance AND Outrage, so it pretty much gave it the middle finger even moreso. They'll probably do something else as well, probably give several Pokemon that couldn't learn Dragon Dance or Mach Punch before those moves, and god knows what else.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on June 18, 2009, 09:20:33 AM
I'm expecting the metagame to stay exactly the same, just like it always does when new games come out.


srsly dude we can work this stuff out on our own.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on June 19, 2009, 11:58:37 PM
Both are correct.  The metagame will change since the moves change, but it'll always remain the same: A bunch of incessant whining about which way is the "proper" way to play. 

and Dragonite was no longer the only one that could do Dragon Dance AND Outrage, so it pretty much gave it the middle finger even moreso.
(http://mysite.verizon.net/Serpentara/objection.gif)
Platinum may have handed out Outrage to his competitors, but it also gave Dragonite Superpower.  When the only thing you can't STAB Outrage into oblivion is Steel, that's not something to be overlooked.

Still hoping we'll see the return of Extremespeed Dragonite, though, but seeings how they already said FU to Crystal with the whole female player shpiel, I'm not all that hopeful.  We'll see.  Either way, I'm buying this game.  G/S music remixes and any Pokemon following you is just too damn awesome to pass up.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Deadpool on June 20, 2009, 07:30:14 PM
The Movie Pichu is downloadable at Project Pokemon.com using pokesav with the download file of the pichu in a wondercard or actual pokemon file in mystery gift that works with it but i can't get the ar code out of it

also the new jirachi is too  

can you get the code posted
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on June 20, 2009, 08:05:10 PM
Scans of [parasitic bomb] we already know:

(http://i42.tinypic.com/205p0ue.jpg)(http://i41.tinypic.com/2yycfuw.jpg)
(http://i39.tinypic.com/2yvnor7.jpg)(http://i43.tinypic.com/23lbjbo.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Deadpool on June 20, 2009, 09:48:41 PM
I found the Pichu Code on PokemonLegend.com

"Pikachu colored Pichu"

94000130 FCFF0000
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3E473D30 400450C4
03E95B04 7F0EE49A
E95C8B1B BD4B3CA0
7DB6D3D6 653A1E86
8762A9F8 00000000
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7AB20993 295E15B6
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03E95B04 7F0EE49A
E95C8B1B BD4B3CA0
7DB6D3D6 653A1E86
8762A9F8 00000000
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D2000000 00000000

It has Its Japanese name and it's OT is also Japanese, And it's ID is 06199

SomeOne should post it on youtube For others, and i don't have or want a youtube account
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on June 20, 2009, 10:48:13 PM
(http://i41.tinypic.com/2yycfuw.jpg)

HE'S JUST SO ADORABLE, MY LITTLE PYRE HEART.  Don't worry, you'll be following me around soon.  VERY SOON!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Pringer X on June 21, 2009, 12:36:02 AM
Both are correct.  The metagame will change since the moves change, but it'll always remain the same: A bunch of incessant whining about which way is the "proper" way to play. 

I'll accept that >0<

Platinum may have handed out Outrage to his competitors, but it also gave Dragonite Superpower.  When the only thing you can't STAB Outrage into oblivion is Steel, that's not something to be overlooked.

There's still EQ to handle Steels, as well as Fire-type attacks. Superpower just forces Dragonite to either switch or constantly use Dragon Dance, so I wouldn't say that's a good thing <.<

Still hoping we'll see the return of Extremespeed Dragonite, though, but seeings how they already said FU to Crystal with the whole female player shpiel, I'm not all that hopeful.  We'll see.  Either way, I'm buying this game.  G/S music remixes and any Pokemon following you is just too damn awesome to pass up.

Odds are it'll be an event pokemon about 6 months after the game gets released, if they don't put it in there.
Title: Pokemon Sunday June 21st
Post by: Akira on June 21, 2009, 05:33:26 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hp-2r0eWphA&eurl=http://pokemon-project.com/&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

Ho-Oh, Lugia and Arceus figurines!
And another things! enjoy!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Old info:

Pokemon Sunday June 14th (vs Team Rocket theme), sounds good ^^
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Vl2qQKVthg&feature=channel_page[/youtube]

Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Night on June 21, 2009, 05:40:03 AM
A STEELIX?! A [chameleon sting]ing STEELIX! WOW!
Is there no pokemon you can't travel with?


Oh, the random blackbelt at Amity Square East gate will be SO HAPPY!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 21, 2009, 05:43:23 AM
Was that the Pirates of the Caribbean theme playing in the begining?

A STEELIX?! A [chameleon sting]ing STEELIX! WOW!
Is there no pokemon you can't travel with?
I wonder if someone would make a youtube video with a Wailord following them?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 21, 2009, 08:06:07 AM
Oh, the random blackbelt at Amity Square East gate will be SO HAPPY!
Yep, he should relocate now. XD

Hmm...
Notched-Ear Pichu knows Helping Hand, Volt Tackle, Swagger and Pain Split...

Darn... Those Figurines... O^O
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Pringer X on June 21, 2009, 11:36:32 AM
Was that the Pirates of the Caribbean theme playing in the begining?
I wonder if someone would make a youtube video with a Wailord following them?

Even better, Kyogre. "Sorry guys, just takin' my pet Lord of Rain out for a walk, you'll have to excuse the sudden typhoon".
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on June 21, 2009, 11:40:49 AM
Take Magneton into a hospital.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on June 21, 2009, 07:44:17 PM
"Oh the stench? Sorry, just walking with my Muk here. I'm sure you don't mind if I partake of your five-star restaurant delights."
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Blackhook on June 21, 2009, 08:24:24 PM
Don´t be afraid people of Tokyo...this is not Godzila, this is just my pet Tyranitar following me.....
Seriously, can you enter buildings with those big Pokémon
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: SoulAnimal on June 21, 2009, 09:02:21 PM
Think about it on wi-fi plaza

" So i herd u leik mudkipz "
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 22, 2009, 05:16:30 AM
Even better, Kyogre. "Sorry guys, just takin' my pet Lord of Rain out for a walk, you'll have to excuse the sudden typhoon".
Hmm I wonder how much chaos you can make with a Groudon?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on June 22, 2009, 05:32:14 AM
All kinds of destructive [parasitic bomb], my dear. Imagine causing a sudden heatwave followed by earthquakes across the land? oh, hailstorms with Articuno or other ice lengendary, instant wishes with Jirachi, and all kinds of [parasitic bomb]! =D

God, all the destruction. HELL YES.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 22, 2009, 05:33:52 AM
I'm suprised you didn't mention Palkia distorting everything it touches.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on June 22, 2009, 05:38:40 AM
Oh, distorting anything it touches, what about forcing select pokemon to appear anytime in the day that only appeares once a selected day with Dialga? And dear, weatherly destruction is much more fun than messing with time and space. THINK OF THE BUILDINGS YOU CAN DESTROY WITH RAYQUAZA.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 22, 2009, 05:41:41 AM
THINK OF THE BUILDINGS YOU CAN DESTROY WITH RAYQUAZA.
I think that's more of a job for Groudon or Regigigas, maybe Deoxys too.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on June 22, 2009, 06:54:28 AM
Rayquaza would be shoe-horned into a person cosplaying as a DBZ character with the 7 Dragon Balls, as he has very little use other than stopping all weather effects.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on June 22, 2009, 08:16:11 AM
You know the more I think about it, the more I realize that 2010 is going to kick the [parasitic bomb] out of most other gaming years, and this game is one of the key reasons why.

Meanwhile, can the games come out any faster please? XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on June 22, 2009, 08:16:47 AM
Meanwhile, can the games come out any faster please? XD

If it did, then 2010 wouldn't be kicking the [parasitic bomb] out of most other gaming years.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on June 22, 2009, 08:19:51 AM
Man... 2008 was a spectacular gaming year. 2009 seems to be the resting year, but 2010 is like... "Round 2!"
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on June 22, 2009, 08:34:44 AM
If it did, then 2010 wouldn't be kicking the [parasitic bomb] out of most other gaming years.

Imagine if the games released on January 1, 2010? Worldwide pandemonium. XD

Man... 2008 was a spectacular gaming year. 2009 seems to be the resting year, but 2010 is like... "Round 2!"

Seriously. I want to make a thread with a list of all things we know of so far that are coming out just so everyone can comprehend and appreciate that it's a fine time to be a gamer.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on June 22, 2009, 09:23:34 AM
All you need to post is Golden Sun DS, my friend.

(beaten down)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 26, 2009, 09:30:36 AM
Just some tiny news.

From Serebii (http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml), Heart Gold and Soul Silver will be available in Japan on 12th September 2009.
So localisation and stuff... 2010 release?

And from Pokebeach (http://pokebeach.com/games/melee-pokemon-scramble), an in-depth look and guide into "Melee! Pokemon Scramble!".
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on June 26, 2009, 09:42:38 AM
2010 release is a definite. I'm calling for the usual February-April gap for pokemon games, very likely in March.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on June 26, 2009, 10:23:39 AM
Ooooh riiiight.... I was supposed to get Scramble... >v<; </wii>

Posted on: June 26, 2009, 09:45:49
OK, I bought it~ ^^ I'll play it later, after I get home in the afternoon. >v<b
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Pringer X on June 26, 2009, 12:37:12 PM
I'm actually pretty interested in the Scramble battle thing for Pokemon, I've always wanted to play as the little buggers themselves and kick all sorts of ass without shouting orders, and it's pretty awesome to be able to play as Weavile, Lucario, or Garchomp and rip [parasitic bomb] apart with them (I would have loved Blaziken to be in there, but alas, he was 3rd gen and not 1st or 4th).
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on June 26, 2009, 01:34:35 PM
If you're gonna unlock Pokemons with passwords in Scramble, you should NEVER do it early in the game, or they will lose lots of Strength power stats. Mew has a power of 2255 or close to it, but if you unlock Mew in say, the Grade B arena, it will only have 199 in power. Password-version Eevee has 420 (or 490) power, so you have to wait and advance through the game before you decide to unlock pokemons. You can catch Eevee in the wild anyways, maybe even stronger than the unlockable one. It depends on when you catch the pokemon, and the further you get, the stronger they become. You will end up throwing out a lot of your weak pokemons sooner or later. You can't level them up either... -w- </wii>
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Pringer X on June 26, 2009, 02:55:13 PM
If you're gonna unlock Pokemons with passwords in Scramble, you should NEVER do it early in the game, or they will lose lots of Strength power stats. Mew has a power of 2255 or close to it, but if you unlock Mew in say, the Grade B arena, it will only have 199 in power. Password-version Eevee has 420 (or 490) power, so you have to wait and advance through the game before you decide to unlock pokemons. You can catch Eevee in the wild anyways, maybe even stronger than the unlockable one. It depends on when you catch the pokemon, and the further you get, the stronger they become. You will end up throwing out a lot of your weak pokemons sooner or later. You can't level them up either... -w- </wii>

Well that's just evil >< Do they still use the Type system or is it replaced with different attacks or something that doesn't impact the game as much as it does the others?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 26, 2009, 03:15:35 PM
Well, it is stated right here:
Quote from: Pokebeach.com
Type matchups, Weakness, and Resistance do come into play, but aren’t as critical a factor as in the DS games. Immunities are a nonissue; Ghosts can be damaged with Fighting moves, Poison-types can be Poisoned, there’s no Water Absorb or Levitate.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on June 27, 2009, 02:07:18 AM
For you Wily: The Final Battle Royals in Pokemon Scramble~

Normal Mode (http://www.justin.tv/clip/870fca586bd63cc1)
Another Mode (http://www.justin.tv/clip/9dac4b2988e95e99)

Extra Mode might show up later. ^^
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 27, 2009, 04:46:17 AM
... AWESOME.
The remix'd theme for Mewtwo, oh man... And that Mewtwo battle was awesome, pwning the 3 legendary birds... XD

And going reckless in Another... Awesome.
Plus Palkia, Dialga, and Gratine... >w<

Thank you SO much Vixy! <3 :cookie: :cookie:
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on June 27, 2009, 05:36:43 AM
Remixed Mewtwo theme......must listen to when the wife isn't sleeping next room over.  >.>

There's still EQ to handle Steels, as well as Fire-type attacks. Superpower just forces Dragonite to either switch or constantly use Dragon Dance, so I wouldn't say that's a good thing <.<
As if Outrage is a good long-term attack anyway?  Most battles don't last that long, especially not when everyone and their dog knows to keep a few Ice Beamers handy.

You'd want two anti-Steel attack types to guarantee full coverage, and NOT Fighting with Ground (due to Bronzong and Skarmory), so it has to be Fire and something else.  EQ is nice, but in Doubles, you can't use it without hammering a non-Flying/Levitating partner.  The extra Fighting coverage against Ice and Dark is always a plus, too.  Even with just Brick Break (more for the sake of knowing your target, since a 2x Brick Break doesn't outdamage a 1.5x Outrage), my Dragonite/Blissey combo has torn apart a Dark Void opener.  With Superpower it gets even more devastating.

Quote
Odds are it'll be an event pokemon about 6 months after the game gets released, if they don't put it in there.
I wonder.  There's already an event Dragonite for the purpose of legitimizing him in Nintendo's non-adjusting Level 50 tournaments (I made sure to go to TrU and get a legit one, and he rocks).  But it could happen.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on June 28, 2009, 08:41:57 PM
New wallpaper!   ( 2009.9.12 On Sale!)

http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/hgss/special/wallpaper.html
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on June 28, 2009, 08:44:16 PM
New wallpaper!    2009.9.12

http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/hgss/special/wallpaper.html
New wallpaper!
New

lol no.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on June 28, 2009, 08:45:26 PM
lol no.

OK! NO ! XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sparky on June 29, 2009, 07:28:11 AM
http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=87493

Hello Generation 5 and Ruby/Sapphire remakes.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on June 29, 2009, 07:40:47 AM
Ruby and Sapphire remakes? Wat.

I guess they needed to fix the fail that tainted the series in those installments as well. *shot* XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Pringer X on June 29, 2009, 07:50:10 AM
http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=87493

Hello Generation 5 and Ruby/Sapphire remakes.

Odds are those mysterious Pokes are probably Brock's Pokemon. Think about it, Ash's take up about three, Pikachu, Gliscor & Monferno, and Buizel, Grotle, & Staraptor, Dawn's take up two, Piplup and then the rest on a single one, and the only one that hasn't been shown one is Brock. The middle one could easily be Happiny, so it sort of supports it. Why they make it silhouetted is anyone's guess though.

Besides, even if I'm wrong, I think you're given Nintendo too much credit. They'll probably release a Ruby/Sapphire version on the DS just to make money people happy XD

As if Outrage is a good long-term attack anyway?  Most battles don't last that long, especially not when everyone and their dog knows to keep a few Ice Beamers handy.

You'd want two anti-Steel attack types to guarantee full coverage, and NOT Fighting with Ground (due to Bronzong and Skarmory), so it has to be Fire and something else.  EQ is nice, but in Doubles, you can't use it without hammering a non-Flying/Levitating partner.  The extra Fighting coverage against Ice and Dark is always a plus, too.  Even with just Brick Break (more for the sake of knowing your target, since a 2x Brick Break doesn't outdamage a 1.5x Outrage), my Dragonite/Blissey combo has torn apart a Dark Void opener.  With Superpower it gets even more devastating.

That's a double team, so that's sort of exempt from being used as any kind of example. Plus, it still makes it obvious that you'll switch at some point. Outrage at least has STAB and giant power the entire time, and it's only resisted by Steel types. Superpower is resisted by Psychic and Flying types, and Ghosts have no problem stepping into the attack. If Salamence or Gyarados steps into a Superpower, then in one turn the users attack is halved. Dragonite isn't a bad Pokemon, but when it comes to Sweeping, Salamence is better. Dragonite does one helluva job being a defensive Pokemon though.

Well, it is stated right here:

That's sort of good I guess.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 29, 2009, 07:51:47 AM
I wouldn't mind... If it finally meant I can catch Regigigas... >.>;

As for those keychains, nice.

Either way, I highly await for the time when the number of Pokemon is over 9000. *crushes PokeDex*
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on June 30, 2009, 12:23:53 AM
I guess they needed to fix the fail that tainted the series in those installments as well. *shot* XD
I'm not so sure a remake could fix that...

That's a double team, so that's sort of exempt from being used as any kind of example.
This is why "competitive" battling is complete rubbish.  You don't just ignore half the game and call it standard play.

Outrage at least has STAB and giant power the entire time, and it's only resisted by Steel types. Superpower is resisted by Psychic and Flying types, and Ghosts have no problem stepping into the attack.
Thank you, captain obvious, but it completely ignores the point that Dragonite can have both, so the point of running comparisons is what?  That was never at any point an either-or discussion.

As for Salamence, his relationship with Dragonite is the same as its always been: Salamence has the more favored stat balance for sweeping, and Dragonite has the wider move pool.  Which is better depends on how you intend to use them.  And at the end of the day, they're both strong enough that personal preference is all the reason you need.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Pringer X on June 30, 2009, 03:33:40 AM
This is why "competitive" battling is complete rubbish.  You don't just ignore half the game and call it standard play.

I didn't make the rules, don't bite my head off.

Thank you, captain obvious, but it completely ignores the point that Dragonite can have both, so the point of running comparisons is what?  That was never at any point an either-or discussion.

The sentence you cutoff pretty much answers your question. Superpower is obvious when it'll switch, Outrage isn't thanks to the two berries that solve confusion, Lum and anti-confuse (I can't remember the friggin names aside from Lum and the offense+/Speed+ berry), and never knowing if it actually has it.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: SoulAnimal on June 30, 2009, 05:07:20 PM
hey , would it be worth EV'ing my pokes on platinum , when HG and SS will come out?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 30, 2009, 05:12:50 PM
Just EV-train them now.
Localised HGSS won't come until perhaps early 2010.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on July 01, 2009, 12:08:36 AM
I didn't make the rules, don't bite my head off.
Said rules are completely fan-based, and your first sentence contested my post based solely on them.  If your own attitude towards them is indifferent, then you shouldn't have brought them up in the first place.

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The sentence you cutoff pretty much answers your question.
You clearly do not understand my question.  I am not asking what the difference between them is or why one is better than the other.  I am asking what that has to do with the discussion.  Because never, anywhere, did I suggest eliminating Outrage in favor of Superpower, only a fool would do so on a Dragon.  What I said was that it was an excellent choice to round out offensive options in addition to Outrage.  So argument for using Outrage over Superpower are completely irrelevant.

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Superpower is obvious when it'll switch, Outrage isn't thanks to the two berries that solve confusion, Lum and anti-confuse (I can't remember the friggin names aside from Lum and the offense+/Speed+ berry), and never knowing if it actually has it.
White Herb mean anything to you?

BTW, the berry you were thinking of is Persim Berry.  Nobody uses it in the competitive format because for some bizarre reason they apply no limit to duplicate hold items.  Therefore Lum Berry is the only status recovery berry worth using.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on July 01, 2009, 12:24:18 AM
I guess they needed to fix the fail that tainted the series in those installments as well. *shot* XD

Am I the only living being that actually liked generation 3?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sparky on July 01, 2009, 12:26:27 AM
Am I the only living being that actually liked generation 3?

I didn't have any problems with it. Personally, I sorta liked it more than Gen II. >>;
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on July 01, 2009, 01:42:19 AM
Heathens. :P

In all seriousness, 3rd gen wasn't bad, per se, just not up to snuff with the other two, IMHO.  The over-use of sluggish water routes was a big part of it (the other being I cannot forgive a Pokemon game that does not feature Dragonite and Mewtwo; hence my purchasing a GBA Action Replay along with my Sapphire Version).

'course, I loved the 3rd gen console games.  Colosseum and Gale of Darkness rocked a lot of socks, the earlier of which had some damn kickass GBA remixes, and easily my favorite player character of all Pokemon games.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Pringer X on July 01, 2009, 05:15:12 AM
You clearly do not understand my question.  I am not asking what the difference between them is or why one is better than the other.  I am asking what that has to do with the discussion.  Because never, anywhere, did I suggest eliminating Outrage in favor of Superpower, only a fool would do so on a Dragon.  What I said was that it was an excellent choice to round out offensive options in addition to Outrage.  So argument for using Outrage over Superpower are completely irrelevant.
White Herb mean anything to you?

I was talking about the differences between Salamence and Dragonite, like I did in the first place. Thanks to Plat., Salamence learned Outrage to go along with Dragon Dance, which was Dragonite's shtick, while Dragonite got Superpower to compensate. Dragonite with Superpower and Outrage is just fine, but since Salamence can use Outrage just as well and uses it better than Dragonite, as well as Salamence having access to two attacks that hit the same types as Superpower as well as others, it boils down to Salamence being better than Dragonite, even when taking Superpower into account.

As for White Herb, you honestly think that it's useful? Choice Band is a better choice because when you switch, your attack goes back to normal and Choice Band re-activates. Not to mention it actually makes the first Superpower stronger. White Herb gets used once and it's gone, and it's applied whenever ANY stat drops, so if you get hit by any stat-reducing attack, White Herb goes away.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 01, 2009, 07:41:57 AM
I remember seeing Hypershell saying using Salamence or Dragonite is a personal choice, so let's stop the comparing, ok?

Am I the only living being that actually liked generation 3?
No. Emerald is my most cleared game in all the series.
That has to say something... -_-
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on July 01, 2009, 08:58:36 PM
As for White Herb, you honestly think that it's useful? Choice Band is a better choice because when you switch, your attack goes back to normal and Choice Band re-activates.

You don't always have the chance to switch, bro. Especially if you're losing 25% of your health every time you come in.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: SoulAnimal on July 01, 2009, 09:04:26 PM
Hey ppl who have plat/daimond/pearl , my boyfriends dad works as a machine part seller for some company ( i dont know what company , cause i dont care ), and they just went to japan for a week for a meeting , and he gave me like 4 Pikachu colored Pichus, anyone want one? ( i'd love to get something better then like a level 4 and 3 in return  8D )
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on July 02, 2009, 12:04:50 AM
I was talking about the differences between Salamence and Dragonite, like I did in the first place.
Discussing the advantages of Outrage over Superpower is not a difference; both Pokemon have Outrage.  That line of discussion remains pointless.

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as well as Salamence having access to two attacks that hit the same types as Superpower as well as others
Brick Break and Rock Smash?  Their power can't compare.  Believe me, I used Brick Break all the time prior to Platinum, and the extra 45 attack strength can make a lot of difference.

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As for White Herb, you honestly think that it's useful? Choice Band is a better choice because when you switch, your attack goes back to normal and Choice Band re-activates. Not to mention it actually makes the first Superpower stronger. White Herb gets used once and it's gone, and it's applied whenever ANY stat drops, so if you get hit by any stat-reducing attack, White Herb goes away.
Choice Band leaves less flexibility given that there's a big "if" on whether or not you get the chance to switch.  It also eliminates the option of using Dragon Dance, as well as switching attack types should the opponent bring in a Fighting-resist, and it leaves Superpower's Defense penalty untouched.  The use when any stat drops is hardly a negative, either, given how many Pokemon depend on Intimidate to scare off physical attackers.

Once again, each has strengths to specific situations, and which is better depends on how you intend to use them, not to mention what your opponent intends to do about it.  Kindly stop trying to pass your personal trends as encompassing the entire game.

I don't even use White Herb, BTW, I was merely presenting it as doing for Superpower what Lum Berry does for Outrage, since you brought it up as if there was no such equivalent.  I prefer to use other items that I feel compliment Dragonite much better, and just take the risk of the Superpower penalty, since it is an auxiliary attack and not a main attack.

Posted on: July 01, 2009, 05:55:18 PM
No. Emerald is my most cleared game in all the series.
That has to say something... -_-
I had Emerald ALMOST cleared, and left it at that.  The ludicrously high-leveled Victory Road wilds got on my nerves.  Really ought to get back on that sometime, the VR theme is cool after all.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 02, 2009, 09:39:08 AM
For me, only the Silver Medals for the Battle Palace and Battle Tower remained...
I've even cleared all the Contests, and have my Pokemon portraits in the Lilycove Museum.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on July 02, 2009, 10:56:48 PM
Really, and I mean REALLY shitty quality trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bL-uSWKkpaE).

Lugia looks awesome in 3D though. <3
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 03, 2009, 07:57:03 AM
IT IS THE [parasitic bomb] YO.

And yeah, Lugia does look awesome, Ho-Oh as well.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on July 03, 2009, 06:50:38 PM
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/hgss/special/movie.html

Clearer trailer covering 3D Ho-Oh and Lugia.  Also has the pedometer and Arceus.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 03, 2009, 06:59:29 PM
With that... Man...
Gyms looked revamped, Chiko doing Cut, and Tyranitar Rock Smashing...
Seriously looking great.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on July 03, 2009, 07:00:09 PM
 0v0 Best Pokemon Game , ever!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Blackhook on July 03, 2009, 07:07:16 PM
It always was...but now it´s even better!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on July 05, 2009, 07:08:44 AM
Pokemon Sunday 05/07/09 "Official Boxart And Poke Walker "

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geSGiSFOD0w[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Thanatos-Zero on July 05, 2009, 01:13:51 PM
0v0 Best Pokemon Game , ever!

Give me the old EV System and I am in.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on July 05, 2009, 02:25:29 PM
But the old EV system was terrible.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on July 05, 2009, 04:01:14 PM
I believe he means IVs.  0-15 (old) as opposed to 0-31 (new).
(EVs are your invisible stats benefiting from vitamins, Macho Brace, Power whatever, and actual battles; that hasn't changed)

Not going to happen so long as compatibility with current games is being maintained.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Thanatos-Zero on July 05, 2009, 06:11:37 PM
I believe he means IVs.  0-15 (old) as opposed to 0-31 (new).

I actually meant the old Effort Value System, in which you could maximise all of the 6 stats. In the 3rd Generation and after it, you can only maximaze 2 of 6 stats. I kept playing Pokemon only to raise pokemon with the best IV´s and maximised EV´s. The new abilities and attacks in the following editions after Crystal are awesome, but without possibility to maximise them, my interrest to the new games declines.
It was GSC which made me to a power gamer, that is why I love it so much.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on July 05, 2009, 06:53:02 PM
Huh, well, I learned something new.  The EV system is nowhere near in 1st and 2nd gen what it is in 3rd and 4th gen.  You get "stat experience" which is equivalent to the Base stats of the 'man you defeated, capping at 65535 each stat (vitamins give 2560 each use but will not raise beyond 25600).  And, as you said, no cap on the combined total.

......damn.  You know, you're right, we DO need the old system back.  That way your starter wouldn't be completely F*@#!ED for multiplayer battles.

But it's still not going to happen without another generation cutoff.  Most games these days are specifically coded to either "correct" or not recognize Pokemon that max-EVed all stats, in order to combat hackers, so even programming new games to "translate" stats to the old EV system during linkups wouldn't work.  At least not on PBR, I'm sure.  But then an excuse to make a new console game might not be a bad thing.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Thanatos-Zero on July 05, 2009, 07:17:06 PM
We need the old Effort Value System back, definitly. The old EV System made pokemon battles more exciting and longer, since your and the opponent's pokemon are equally strong and durable.
The new system makes the battles to fast and more luck based.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on July 06, 2009, 01:07:33 AM
You guys must [tornado fang]ing love grinding.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on July 06, 2009, 01:13:13 AM
Grinding? I used Depo store steroids goods on the little turds to make them well enough so I can have a fighting fit team in multiplayer with balanced stats when grinding ain't good enough. Yes, I am a strategist on these types of games, not a grinder.

And who remembers the Puzzle Leauge GB port? I think they really need to bring it back, it has potential enough for tense WiFi free-for-alls.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on July 06, 2009, 01:18:56 AM
But vitamins won't get you even half of the way to max EVs. :/
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on July 06, 2009, 01:20:41 AM
Yeah, so? it helps when you're balancing out your team. I just happen to be one of those players who like balancing thier team out~
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on July 06, 2009, 03:15:12 AM
New HG/SS commercial aired before a special premiere for the Arceus movie.

Info:
Quote from: PokéBeach
Before the movie started a new HeartGold and SoulSilver commercial played, which I imagine will not air for another few weeks. A 3D Entei appears, followed by Raikou, and then Suicune. We see Ho-Oh and Lugia posing, and then some game footage. Most of it has already been seen, but there is some sort of footage involving a race with laps being counted. I have no idea what it was, so it's probably something completely new in the games. The male character is also shown riding a Pokemon in the Lake of Rage. He encounters the red Gyarados while doing so.

Also:
Quote from: PokéBeach
After the movie aired, a teaser for the 13th movie played. Lugia and Ho-Oh are seen fighting each other. Lugia fires some Aeroblasts while Ho-Oh uses what appears to be Sacred Fire. This does not mean for sure that the two will actually be fighting in the movie. It's just a teaser trailer.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on July 06, 2009, 03:19:04 AM
You guys must [tornado fang]ing love grinding.
Not really, but that's just it, the advantage of the old system would be that you don't have to be particular about your grinding.  You can just trash the Elite Four over and over, or whatever, and get your 'mans the strongest they can be.  At current EV training is a pain, because the wrong EVs can mess you up.  You have to look up on Serebii or whatever what specific Pokemon give you the EVs you're looking for, and fight ONLY them, making any Pokemon you used while actually clearing the adventure screwed over.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on July 06, 2009, 03:32:07 AM
Unless you use those EV reducing berries, no? Something like 11 of them will completely clear a stat of all EVs?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on July 06, 2009, 03:39:01 AM
26.

And yeah, the current implementation of EVs is bullshit, but the old system was a lot more bullshit. If they're gonna be like that they should just get rid of them completely and raise base stats a little. Exactly the same effect, but without the need to kill like 650 base 600s to get there.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on July 06, 2009, 03:57:55 AM
Actually, 110 Base-600's would get you there

Total Base Stats add up real fast.  Consider the fact that you plow through 30 'mans per Elite Four run, and it's not too much to ask.  Especially when you consider the experience from the adventure of the game is actually valid, and you can Vitamin speed through the first two fifths or so.  If you further take into account how current items like Macho Brace would factor in, it'd be a cakewalk.

Compare that with having to track down one specific Pokemon 26 times over to max only one stat.  And that's the minimum when you figure you're taking full advantage of Vitamins and Macho Brace.  Power **** items make it a little easier, but still.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: SoulAnimal on July 06, 2009, 03:59:33 AM
Hey if the EVing system isnt good , is a metagross with 404 attack good? its shiny and never had the pokerus
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on July 06, 2009, 04:22:43 AM
Actually, 110 Base-600's would get you there

I thought you said each stat needed 65535. 65535 for each stat is 393210. If we get 600 for every kill, and assume we only fight Manaphy or Mew or something so nothing gets wasted, that's 393210/600=655.35=656.

Am I missing something here or what?


And yeah, it means you'll be able to actually use the pokemon you used in game, but I really wouldn't call that worth it if it takes forever to train any new ones. Especially since ingame teams are probably gonna have the wrong natures or lack egg moves so they'll won't be that good anyway.

Hey if the EVing system isnt good , is a metagross with 404 attack good? its shiny and never had the pokerus

Yeah. You've got a 30 instead of a 31 in your attack IV, but 1 point won't make a difference almost all the time, so a 30's still pretty damn good. What are its other stats like?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: SoulAnimal on July 06, 2009, 05:00:41 AM
Meh ,high 200's

Too lazy to get out my DSi and check , focusing on convincing parents that its worth for one of them to take me to Otakon
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Thanatos-Zero on July 06, 2009, 05:24:41 AM
The differences in 30 and 31 IVs are to determine the type of your Hidden Power attack of its higgest base attack namely 70. If all IVs are 31, the Hidden Power is treated as a Dark Type attack with a power of 70, which should not be underrestimated.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on July 06, 2009, 05:39:03 AM
HP Dark on a Metagross.


Not feelin' it.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Thanatos-Zero on July 06, 2009, 06:11:13 AM
HP Dark on a Metagross.


Not feelin' it.
But HP Fire or Ground hurts more than you think.

In general HP is for Pokemon, who cannot learn that certain typ based attack to counter their weakness.
Lets take Scizor as example, his only weakness is fire by a multiplkator of 4 (It hurts!). Should he meet a Charizard in a 1vs1 battle he would lose that battle, however if you teach him HP with Rock as its attack type, the situation would look better in the confrontation, but he still lacks the speed to attack it first, so I would equip Scizor with a item which should raise his speed.
With some luck, you can even defeat Pokemon which have the typ advantage.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on July 06, 2009, 06:19:36 AM
We're not talkin' about Scizor. We're talking about Metagross. And HP Dark on a Metagross is not a good idea.


Also nobody should ever use HP on Scizor ever. 55 special attack dude, come on.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Thanatos-Zero on July 06, 2009, 06:31:28 AM
I would too, but in GSC and before DP, HP is physical or special by the determined typ.

Metagross is weak against Fire and Ground, so make sure that your Pokemon has high Spez.Atk and a spezial based Ground or Fire attack. Metagross's Spez.Def is not so high like its normal Def.
You know what you have to do.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: SoulAnimal on July 06, 2009, 03:08:02 PM
So what does this teach me about my Metagross?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 06, 2009, 03:16:04 PM
In short, you have a very fine Metagross, and never dabble in Hidden Power due to it's mechanics.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on July 06, 2009, 03:33:41 PM
My Gorebyss has a good HP. It only took me like around 400 eggs to get.


It's fine to dabble if you don't have things like having a life getting in the way.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on July 07, 2009, 03:22:50 AM
I thought you said each stat needed 65535. 65535 for each stat is 393210. If we get 600 for every kill, and assume we only fight Manaphy or Mew or something so nothing gets wasted, that's 393210/600=655.35=656.

Am I missing something here or what?
Sorry, brain-fart.

But I STILL think it beats the hell out of the new system.  They could always take the old and lower the caps.

Basically, there just shouldn't be a total-stat cap as there is now.  It also stinks that any given Pokemon only raises EVs for one or two stats.  With the old system you got a little something for everything.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on July 07, 2009, 04:15:25 AM
I think I prefer the system where you have to think about where to assign EVs rather than just grind every stat to the maximum. It'd be like if they removed the autolevel to 100 option when playing online. Either grind like crazy, or be beaten by someone who did. Not fun.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on July 07, 2009, 05:24:51 AM
OPINION
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on July 07, 2009, 06:50:14 AM
(http://i31.tinypic.com/n68chx.png)

lolwut?

Funny that the Soul Silver description (http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-9g-49-en-70-3guj.html) doesn't say any of that.

Here's a screencap for you lazy people.
(http://i26.tinypic.com/28t8bhk.png)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on July 07, 2009, 06:53:02 AM
Finally an even bigger reason to get both versions? It'd be interesting (and rage inducing too) if Kanto was SS exclusive and HG got Hoenn instead.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on July 07, 2009, 07:01:42 AM
A Gym Leader using Dark Pokemon?  Finally!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sparky on July 07, 2009, 07:42:13 AM
Hm, if this is true, this would probably help some people move on to the DSi, seeing how apparently the main Gen III regions will be visitable.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on July 07, 2009, 08:05:03 AM
Wait, it's confirmed to be DSi exclusive now, or you're saying there's a decent workaround for it all now thanks to the regions being in the game paks Sparks?

Pardon the slow brain facilities tonight, I'm half asleep right now. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on July 07, 2009, 08:11:02 AM
there's a decent workaround for it all now thanks to the regions being in the game paks?

^That one.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sparky on July 07, 2009, 08:17:04 AM
^That one.

Exactly what I meant, yes.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 07, 2009, 08:23:53 AM
Lawl... Released in 2,000... 8D
Though...
Hoenn!? NEW Gym Leader that uses Dark Pokemon!?
I hope Liza&Tate weren't the ones that got chopped off...

Still...
Man, sounds too awesome to believe...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Blackhook on July 07, 2009, 12:22:02 PM
Wasn´t one of the elite four using Drk pokémon?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 07, 2009, 01:06:42 PM
That's Sidney.
This new gym leader is called Lunah.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: SoulAnimal on July 07, 2009, 02:16:47 PM
This is gonna be the game im gonna use my Acekard on nao

( AceKard = DSi action replay )
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on July 07, 2009, 11:46:41 PM
Man, sounds too awesome to believe...
I find it hard to believe that PlayAsia would be the first to report new information on a yet unreleased game.  The Hoenn shpiel sounds to me like jumping to conclusions over the old news that you can somehow nab Kyogre and Groudon.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 07, 2009, 11:48:09 PM
Possible, but the thing is there's also names for new characters...
Gah, I want it to be true... O^O
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: SoulAnimal on July 08, 2009, 01:16:55 AM
Wait! but if you can go to Hoenn , then... will there be no Ruby/Saphirre Remakes?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: shinobigoomba on July 08, 2009, 04:21:35 AM
I currently have in my possesion a shiny gengar.
is this awesome y/y?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on July 08, 2009, 05:03:12 AM
Found these:

(http://i26.tinypic.com/30mred4.jpg)(http://i25.tinypic.com/aweqmd.jpg)
(http://i32.tinypic.com/zushs9.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 08, 2009, 05:05:15 AM
Hmm... First batch of new official pics of the Pokemon...
Looking awesome so far.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: TeaOfJay on July 08, 2009, 11:06:46 AM
I know this is a tad off topic, but this comic (http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=284) has a point. Which begs the question:

Why give access to the world's most powerful animals to children?

At least with the first generation, while still being powerful, wasn't capable of nothing more than just destroying things. Things can be replaced.

Now go three generations ahead, and you've got Pokemon that control time and space(Palkia and Dialga), is responsible for every human emotion(The Elves, and can be seen as God(Arceus, whose PokeDex entry states that the world was created by it) and Jesus(Look at Mew's PokeDex entry: It has the DNA of every Pokemon.)

The next generation is going to be hard as hell to make new Pokemon for, unless we're going to be battling with [tornado fang]ing planets now.

...That aside, and going back to the topic at hand, the Gold and Silver remake looks awesome so far. Personally it was my favorite generation.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on July 08, 2009, 11:22:09 AM
Jesus(Look at Mew's PokeDex entry: It has the DNA of every Pokemon.)

This is very similar to Jesus, yes.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: TeaOfJay on July 08, 2009, 11:57:28 AM
Okay, I see a flaw in my logic.

But besides that little hiccup, my point still stands.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 08, 2009, 02:22:29 PM
Oh god... I lawl'd hard at the comic there... XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on July 08, 2009, 02:34:02 PM
Guy needs to learn to get to the damn joke. That comic shoulda been three panels at the most.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Blackhook on July 08, 2009, 02:52:49 PM
Oh yeah...the gen. 4 legendaries ruined it...HO-oh was supposed to be the top pokémon....
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: SoulAnimal on July 08, 2009, 03:26:20 PM
At least with the first generation, while still being powerful, wasn't capable of nothing more than just destroying things. Things can be replaced.
Now go three generations ahead, and you've got Pokemon that control time and space(Palkia and Dialga), is responsible for every human emotion(The Elves, and can be seen as God(Arceus, whose PokeDex entry states that the world was created by it) and Jesus(Look at Mew's PokeDex entry: It has the DNA of every Pokemon.)
The next generation is going to be hard as hell to make new Pokemon for, unless we're going to be battling with [tornado fang]ing planets now.
]
Just as something to add , since we can go to Hoenn now, Ruby/ Saphirre remakes wouldnt be worth it if we only went to Hoenn , so now Nintendo either has to destroy pokemon ( NEVER gonna happen ) or , Create alot and i mean alot of filler games , like ranger and ranger 2 , and pokemon mystery dungeon ,blue and red , then time and darkness , then sky .  But after this filler game whats next?

Another reigon or new filler because already Ranger 2 and Time Darkness and sky already ha generation 4, so , unless that other pokemon wii game makes a huge hit , nintendo is gonna have some trouble

Maybe they'll try a crossover that isnt super smash bros. Like a actual pokemon game. We'll never know
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 08, 2009, 03:43:25 PM
The thing is, even though Play-Asia states it as such, there has been no news recently to confirm that.
For now, let's just wait and see if Hoenn really is going to be in HG.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on July 09, 2009, 12:26:23 AM
If it is, it'll be all the more reason why SS outsells it horrendously.  Not as if enough people don't prefer Lugia to Ho-oh already.

Okay, I see a flaw in my logic.

But besides that little hiccup, my point still stands.
*smacks LazyMan with his magical talking fish*

Mew is 1st-gen.

Oh yeah...the gen. 4 legendaries ruined it...HO-oh was supposed to be the top pokémon....
Bull.  Mewtwo was, and STILL WOULD BE (as in Base Stat total higher than Arceus), had they not axed his Special Defense in G/S/C. 
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: shinobigoomba on July 09, 2009, 01:07:28 AM
anyone else think Croconaw looks like a caveman?

and quagsire is looking "HURRDURR" as always
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on July 10, 2009, 02:03:30 PM
(http://i30.tinypic.com/244dvrn.jpg)

Quote from: PokéBeach
Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina each learn moves they could not previously learn - Metal Burst, Hydro Pump, and Shadow Sneak (respectively).
There are 9 mini-games. One of them could be the racing game I saw at the early premiere of the Arceus movie.
Eusine, a character from Crystal, is in the game.
Latios and Latias are in the games at Level 30.
Mewtwo is in the game (Kanto confirmation if it turns out to be true?).
Lugia and Ho-Oh have a "hidden ability."

Quote from: Serebii.net
Comfirmation of Lugia and Ho-Oh at Level 45
Comfirmation of Red Gyarados returning at Level 30
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 10, 2009, 02:11:32 PM
They really are cramping all the remaining Pokemon into these 2 games...
First Groudon/Kyorge and Rayquaza, and now possibly Latios and Latias.

Well, at least Red Gyarados is still Lv30, same goes for Ho-Oh and Lugia at Lv45.
With Eusine in, perhaps, Crystal plot where you can capture Suicune first?

Lastly, I know some will be delighted at Mewtwo. 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Blackhook on July 10, 2009, 02:26:11 PM
It is heavily applied that I am delighted about Mewtwo
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on July 10, 2009, 04:09:34 PM
More info:

Quote from: PokéBeach
You follow Entei, Suicune, and Raikou around Johto, just like in the original games. However, Eusine is stalking Suicune.
There is a new feature in the game called the "Pokeathelon," which is a mini-game feature that uses the stylus.
The Pokemon Gyms have various traps.
The Kimono Girls are part of the storyline and you meet them many times.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 10, 2009, 04:21:24 PM
I just want my Surf HM... O^O
Though, have various traps in the gym, which got showcased a bit in the recent video, is always great. [eyebrow]
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Blackhook on July 10, 2009, 04:45:55 PM
I thought there were enough traps already  -AC .... now that you mention surf, will you be able to ride the pokémon that knows surf or will you turn into a lapras again?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on July 11, 2009, 05:07:45 PM
I'm sure Surf will show you riding SOMETHING, as it has since R/S, but the question is if you can discern it as the actual Pokemon you have.  Well, if they're making walking sprites for every 'man, here's hoping they've got swimming as well.  Hell, it could be the same sprites just half-submerged...

Speaking of which...does that mean swimming Pokemon are going to be hovering as in the console games if they follow you outside?

Lastly, I know some will be delighted at Mewtwo. 8D
F*@#! YEAH!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on July 12, 2009, 01:45:00 AM
Red Gyarados footage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYYdmWicYLo)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Waifu on July 12, 2009, 01:58:55 AM
That was awesome and I hope to have this in my DS.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on July 12, 2009, 02:40:56 AM
Red Gyarados footage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYYdmWicYLo)
Riding a shadow in the water.  *sighs*  Oh well, maybe you can at least see your actual Pokemon jumping in and out.

Gyarados sprite looks IN-FREAKING-CREDIBLY kickass.  And what little of the music that can be heard was awesome, as well.  Consider this pre-ordered as soon as the U.S. release date is confirmed.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on July 12, 2009, 02:41:27 AM
Pokéathelon footage, as well as better quality Red Gyarados footage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnn1Hm8uTME)

Consider this pre-ordered as soon as the U.S. release date is confirmed.

Mother. [tornado fang]ing. Agreed.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on July 12, 2009, 02:45:45 AM
Better sound, too. 8)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on July 12, 2009, 02:46:46 AM
Better sound, too. 8)

Indeed.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 12, 2009, 08:00:36 AM
That is a very impressive sprite of Red Gyarados... :3
Really nice remix theme too.

As for the Pokeathelon... Hmm... Wonder what rewards there will be.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on July 12, 2009, 08:09:43 AM
Man there sure are some cool things in this game but there is only one thing I don't understand...how can a Lapras walk on 2 legs?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 12, 2009, 08:40:46 AM
Not 2... XD
The back 2 flippers are just very small on that sprite.
As for how, just like how a Wailord can float on land. >0<
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on July 12, 2009, 01:30:32 PM
Pokethelon info:

Quote from: PokéBeach
The Pokethlon tests you and your Pokemon’s Speed, Power, Technique, Stamina and jumping ability.
You get to choose three Pokemon. Each Pokemon appears to have stars in each category being from top to bottom, “Speed,” “Power,” “Technique,” “Stamina,” and “Jump.” It appears speed can be up to 5 stars, power up to 4 and all the rest max out at 3.
Two different types of minigames in the Pokethlon are discussed: Dash Hurdle and Bound Field.
Dash Hurdle is located in a place called the Track Dome.
Bound Field is located in a place called the Jump Dome.
Dash Hurdle: You control 3 Pokemon simultaneously, as they run you must click on their overworld sprites. By doing so, they will jump over the hurdles. The course gets harder the further you run through. This track focuses on your speed and jump abilities.
Bound Filed: Again, you control three Pokemon simultaneously. In this, your technique and jump abilities are being tested. The more lit-up (yellow) things you touch when you make a jump, the higher your score rises.
Pokemon can earn medals.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 12, 2009, 03:03:28 PM
Medals... So it's like the Pokemon Contest of Track and Field...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on July 13, 2009, 02:45:06 PM
(http://i31.tinypic.com/28hesfp.jpg)(http://i29.tinypic.com/10ofdbc.jpg)
(http://i25.tinypic.com/sfxbg9.jpg)(http://i28.tinypic.com/20uvqk5.jpg)
(http://i25.tinypic.com/4t58bd.jpg)

Quote from: PokéBeach
The first scan was already shown earlier this week, but now we can see Ho-Oh, Lugia, and Entei's sprites. Overworld shots of Ho-Oh in front of the Tin Tower and Lugia in the Whirl Islands are also shown. The scenes will probably precede or follow those 3D shots of Ho-Oh flying around the Tin Tower and Lugia sitting behind the wave of water - the 3D scenes that were revealed a while ago.

The second scan shows the Kimono Girls, Red Gyarados, Pokemon Gyms, and more Pokethlon mini-games. It appears that inside of Ilex Forest, you can team up with one of the Kimono Girls to help her find the exit, similar to Cheryl in DPt's Eterna Forest. The scan states that the Kimono Girl holds a "key" to the story, perhaps meaning that she literally has a key for the player. The screenshot that shows the dance studio the Kimono Girls reside in has a Team Rocket grunt in it, so it seems Team Rocket has some involvement with them... the grunt says, "So, you can't listen to your customer's commands, huh?", yelling at the Kimono Girls. In addition to the Dash Hurdle and Bound Field mini-games we learned about yesterday, the scan reveals two new games: Ring-Out Fight and Shooting Snow. Shooting Snow seems to involve... shooting snow, while Ring-Out Fight appears to be like the Hitmontop game in Pokemon Stadium 2 where you have to knock Pokemon out of a ring.

For the third scan we have PokeGear and PokeWalker information. You can check the Johto map on the PokeGear and it has a radio and phone (not real ones of course). Unlike previous Pokemon games, you can now assign two key items (like a Super Rod and Bicycle) using two of the DS's buttons, though we don't know which yet. The scan also shows that the Item Finder has been redesigned, which you can see on the middle of the page to the left (the black circle with orange and a dot). As for the PokeWalker, you can connect to a friend's PokeWalker using your own. On the bottom of the scan you can see two PokeWalkers connecting to each other, one with a Cyndaquil and the other with a Pikachu. One of the players receives an Oran Berry in doing so, which means that there will probably be ways of obtaining items when connecting with your friend's PokeWalker. The scan also gives us our first look of a Pokemon getting captured on the PokeWalker - you can see a Poke Ball capturing a Sentret. Additionally, one of the screenshots shows the PokeWalker's Item Finder discovering a Rare Candy, which may mean it will allow players to obtain rare items. It is also revealed that the PokeWalker will record your daily progress with a journal.

The fourth scan confirms that the Level 1 Dialga, Palkia, or Giratina you receive from Arceus will be able to learn Metal Burst, Hydro Pump, and Shadow Sneak (respectively). There are screenshots of each Pokemon using their attack. In the final scan, Notched-Ear Pichu's attacks are confirmed to be Pain Split, Volt Tackle, Helping Hand, and Swagger.

As for the Latios, Latias, and Mewtwo factoids posted the other day... they were most likely fake. There is no indication in the scans of any of those Pokemon being in the games, though if Kanto is included, Mewtwo may be too.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 13, 2009, 02:49:47 PM
Well, at least most of the stuff mentioned earlier has been confirmed, except for Mewtwo, Latios and Latias.
As for the Kimono Girl's "Key"/key role in the Ilex Forest, hoping for legal Celebi since Colosseum. >.>;
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on July 15, 2009, 04:03:18 PM
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/hgss/

Official site updated with most of the info from the CoroCoro scans. Also Artwork from the latest scans, and screens as well as some new screens and artwork.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 18, 2009, 04:05:42 PM
It's funny to see that Entei has went through the least changes in art, even his pose remained almost the same back in GSC.
Still, seeing clear Red Gyarados sprite, awesome.

Posted on: July 15, 2009, 22:17:53
Just of note, the official Pokemon website (http://www.pokemon.co.jp/whats/reference/zukan/index.html) has updated their PokeDex with all of Ken Sugimori's new art for the 2nd gen Pokemon.

Credit: Pokebeach.com (http://pokebeach.com/)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on July 19, 2009, 04:43:55 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mDapiwAkpk[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 19, 2009, 09:05:28 AM
Awesome, the battle themes for Ho-Oh and Lugia... Lugia's totally beats Ho-Oh's at the moment.
Also for the Legendary Beasts' theme.

Lastly, that Arceus video of re-creating one of the 3 Dragons is just... Wow.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Night on July 19, 2009, 09:29:34 AM
:/
hmm...they seemed more enthusiastic at ho-ho than lugia
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 19, 2009, 09:34:32 AM
Rainbows, it's always the rainbows...
Still Lugia's theme > Ho-Oh's theme at the moment.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on July 19, 2009, 11:50:35 PM
Seems so, although it's difficult to tell for sure, both due to how short the samples are, and the fact that the bystanders won't shut up during the clips. -_-
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 20, 2009, 09:43:15 AM
Because I didn't want to make another Pokemon topic about it. >.>;

The official Pokemon website (http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/dungeon_boukendan) has revealed more info about the upcoming WiiWare games "Onward! Flame Rescue Team", "Go! Storm Rescue Team", and "Dream! Light Rescue Team". Yep, Pokemon Mystery Dungeon WiiWare games. These games will be using the same Mii-style models as those in My Pokemon Ranch and Melee! Pokemon Scramble. These 3 games will be released in Japan on the 4th of August, at a price of 1200 WiiPoints each.

Quote from: Water Pokemon Master over at Pokebeach
Each version of the game features a slightly different version of the hub town, different starting Pokemon, and different missions. Flame Rescue Team takes place in the volcanic Pokemon Village and emphasizes Fire-Type Pokemon. The starting Pokemon are Charmander, Cyndaquil, Torchic, Chimchar, Vulpix, Growlithe, Eevee, Teddiursa, and Buneary. Storm Rescue Team takes place on Pokemon Beach, emphasizes Water-Type Pokemon, and has Squirtle, Totodile, Mudkip, Piplup, Wooper, Azurill, Phanpy, Riolu, and Wynaut as its starters. Light Rescue Team takes place in the forested Pokemon Garden and emphasizes Electric-Types. Pichu, Pikachu, Shinx, Pachirisu, Elekid, Mareep, Psyduck, Togepi, and Meowth are available from the start. While previous iterations of Pokemon Dungeon assigned your starter based on a personality profile, this time you can apparently choose your starter from the nine Pokemon available.

Gameplay involves taking your team of up to four Pokemon into mazes (the titular mysterious dungeons), and battling through multiple floors of enemies until you find either the exit or a set target such as a Pokemon that needs to be rescued. Along the way, your Pokemon will gain experience, items, money, and possibly even recruit new team members. The layout of the dungeons changes with every visit, keeping the game fresh and challenging. Support is provided by the townspeople. As in previous games, Kangaskhan can hold items, Duskull runs a bank, and Kecleon has a shop. Slaking and Gastrodon also appear, though their role is not yet clear (probably dojo master and move tutor). Slowking is the village Elder, and apparently assigns new missions. Arceus also plays a role in the story.

Two major changes have been made to the gameplay, which sets these titles apart from other Pokemon Dungeon games. First, while in the previous Pokemon Dungeon games, Pokemon couldn't evolve until the endgame for story purposes, in the Wiiware games Pokemon can evolve as soon as they reach the proper level. What's more, if they level up in the middle of a battle, they can evolve right then and there! However, this ability works both ways--enemy Pokemon can also evolve midbattle. The second change is the introduction of the Pokemon Tower. Your team members can climb on each other's shoulders to form a "tower". While like this, the Pokemon move and fight as a unit, combining their stats to drastically improve their overall strength. Of course, enemies can also form Pokemon Towers...

The game makes use of the Wii's online capabilities, allowing players to trade Pokemon and download special missions. It also improves upon the SOS feature from previous games by making full use of the Wii-mail system. The SOS feature works like this: Normally, if your team is Knocked Out during a mission, you lose half your money, half your items, and have to restart the dungeon from scratch. However, if you have WiiConnect24 turned on, you can send a message to the people on your friends list requesting a rescue. Your friends then play through the same dungeon that your team last entered, and if they successfully reach your team, your Pokemon will be revived and allowed to continue from where you left off. Throughout this process, Wii-mail keeps both players apprised of the other team's progress.

Finally, the games will have some sort of connectivity with the DS, at the very least allowing players to use it as a controller. Whether or not this allows for some form of remote play remains to be seen.

Credit: Pokebeach (http://pokebeach.com/2009/07/wiiware-pokemon-mystery-dungeon-new-information)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on July 21, 2009, 05:49:05 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ-BeIECkIE[/youtube]

[tornado fang]ing awesome!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sparky on July 21, 2009, 05:58:09 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ-BeIECkIE[/youtube]

[tornado fang]ing awesome!

That's the best Pokemon trailer I've seen.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on July 21, 2009, 06:23:01 AM
That's the best Pokemon trailer I've seen.

[tornado fang]ing co-signed.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 21, 2009, 07:48:52 AM
Awesome. Simply awesome.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on July 21, 2009, 10:32:14 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr6Jq4Q-tkI[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 21, 2009, 10:44:01 AM
And I was busy trying to figure out the moves of the Pokemon. XD
And darn that Farfetch'd. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Lunar Knight Zeke on July 21, 2009, 05:39:29 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ-BeIECkIE[/youtube]

[tornado fang]ing awesome!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr6Jq4Q-tkI[/youtube]

...yeah. I'm definitely getting this on the first its available in the U.S.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on July 21, 2009, 08:17:42 PM
Farfetch'd so needs an evolution.

Battle was okay for a stage 1 style battle. One thing I noticed is that one second lag time between the pokemon flashing from an attack and the HP being reduced from the bar. I hope they can speed that up a little more. It's not really a major issue, but it only adds to this nagging complaint that the DS games are slower than the other older Pokemon titles. RSE was pretty speedy.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on July 21, 2009, 08:19:18 PM
Farfetch'd so needs an evolution.

200% Agreed!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Night on July 21, 2009, 08:30:44 PM
chasgoose?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on July 21, 2009, 08:37:59 PM
Awesome ^^
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on July 21, 2009, 08:43:07 PM
Man, Farfetch'd looks more deadly this time around, it even knows areal ace. AT LV 5 no less. looks like they fixed the flying types' issue if there were any..
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Blackhook on July 21, 2009, 09:03:45 PM
Thumbs up for the Samurai duck of doom!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on July 21, 2009, 09:50:05 PM
The sad part is he'll only really stick out in low and mid evolution pokemon battles like this. He'll likely still get absolutely murdered in the fully evolved pokemon meta-game.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on July 22, 2009, 12:23:39 AM
You can still use him in contests though!

(lol)



(I actually have a Skitty that I use for cute contests just so I can pretend it's not a terrible terrible pokemon. D:)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on July 22, 2009, 12:34:16 AM
Protip: give a "cool-looking" pokemon sweet poffins to max the cute stat and give it cute moves, afterwards, cast and pray.

Since this is a remake, let's have the ability to insert contests like FR/LG did. lol.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 22, 2009, 07:41:33 AM
Man, Farfetch'd looks more deadly this time around, it even knows areal ace. AT LV 5 no less. looks like they fixed the flying types' issue if there were any..
Farfetch'd already knows Aerial Ace in this generation, plus that wasn't AA, it was Night Slash.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: TeaOfJay on July 22, 2009, 08:21:53 AM
The Pokemon that really needs an evolution is Dunsparce. It already has a decent ability where if an attack's secondary effect is more likely to happen, but the Pokemon is more worthless than a Magikarp. Hell, Farfetch'd can at least use Fly and Cut and only costs a Spearow which can be caught easily. Dunsparce you get after getting the National Dex and is one of the only new Pokemon past that cave on Island Three.

Honestly, even in the older games, Dunsparce was TERRIBLE. An evolution and a moveset that can utilize the awesome ability it has would make Dunsparce infinitly more valuable as a Pokemon instead of just being seen as filler.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on July 22, 2009, 09:06:22 AM
(Luvdisc)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on July 23, 2009, 04:03:08 AM
Intro and Gameplay Demo. (http://pokebeach.com/2009/07/soulsilve-demo-videos-intro-gameplay)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Night on July 23, 2009, 05:04:06 AM
Intro and Gameplay Demo. (http://pokebeach.com/2009/07/soulsilve-demo-videos-intro-gameplay)

Quote from: off-screen lady
um...your not allowed to take video's of the game...

 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on July 23, 2009, 05:25:51 AM
That second video clearly demonstrated Dunsparce's utter failure and why it needs an evolution.

Seriously, make it the... whatever type combo it is... surprising evolution candidate for Gen 2, like how Gen 1 has Magikarp to Gyarados and Gen 3 has Feebas to Milotic.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on July 23, 2009, 05:34:41 AM
I'm starting to think Dunsparce needs an evolution.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Blackhook on July 23, 2009, 01:26:12 PM
I almost forgot Dunsparce existed.....
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 23, 2009, 02:15:53 PM
Well, that remixed Trainer battle theme is great, and 3D Lugia doing the same intro screen as in GSC, awesome.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on July 23, 2009, 10:36:44 PM
Awesome video! ^^
Dunsparce= LOL  8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on July 23, 2009, 10:48:19 PM
Dunsparce and magikarp is basically the dan hibiki of the pokemon series. teach them the right moves (plus getting the magikarp to involve into it's superior form gyarados) and you got [twin slasher].

To be honest, I caught a dunsparce in either sapphire or emerald if I remember.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on July 26, 2009, 02:35:57 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8fQ2AIcLkM[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on July 26, 2009, 05:56:55 AM
Private video...

(http://mysite.verizon.net/Serpentara/nosir.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on July 26, 2009, 06:02:23 AM
Private video...

(http://mysite.verizon.net/Serpentara/nosir.jpg)

Wasn't when I first posted it.

Anyway, here;

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaoxmjOIwWA[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 26, 2009, 08:01:31 AM
Hmm, Bugsy, Whitney and Morty...
And the Pokethelon is looking really fun now.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on July 27, 2009, 07:24:07 AM
QUESTION TIME


Why are people against multiple pokemon using the same hold item anyway? Like seriously how could this annoy someone. I don't get it.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: AquaTeamV3 on July 27, 2009, 02:06:54 PM
QUESTION TIME


Why are people against multiple pokemon using the same hold item anyway? Like seriously how could this annoy someone. I don't get it.
I personally hate that rule, especially when I want to use leftovers on 2 or more Pokemon.  Heck, I'm not even sure why the Battle Tower/Frontier enforces it in the first place.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on July 28, 2009, 02:09:33 AM
Why are people against multiple pokemon using the same hold item anyway? Like seriously how could this annoy someone. I don't get it.
Same reason they're against multiple of the same species on a team, I suppose.

It is a minor annoyance when somebody's entire team uses the same item, ie Focus Sash. 
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: TeaOfJay on July 31, 2009, 08:01:29 PM
Dunsparce and magikarp is basically the dan hibiki of the pokemon series. teach them the right moves (plus getting the magikarp to involve into it's superior form gyarados) and you got [twin slasher].

I agree with Magikarp, but since it envolves into Gyarados it doesn't count here.

Dunsparce is useless no matter what moves you give it, even against Pokemon that haven't evolved yet.

Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: AdamTheHedgehog on July 31, 2009, 08:03:35 PM
Finally, these 2 games get justice via a remake...what I really would like to see be remade is Pokemon Yellow! They seem to have skipped that game entirely...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on July 31, 2009, 08:11:19 PM
...It's just R&B but with Pikachu as a starter. If you want Yellow, just boot up Fire Red or Leaf Green and catch a Pikachu in Viridian Forest. Yeah, it won't follow you around, but it's pretty much the same damn thing.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Blackhook on July 31, 2009, 08:13:09 PM
Jessie and James are in Yellow........ -_-
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: AdamTheHedgehog on July 31, 2009, 08:14:36 PM
Yes, and the game is much closer to the Anime.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Blackhook on July 31, 2009, 08:15:40 PM
Which isn´t a good point
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on July 31, 2009, 08:17:13 PM
@STM:No it's not. There's no Jessie and James, you can't get the 3 starters withou trading, Gary doesn't have the eveelutions, and the gym leaders don't have the same pokemons.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Blackhook on July 31, 2009, 08:20:19 PM
Altough it was wierd to have Pikachu as a starter while the first gym leader was Brock......
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on July 31, 2009, 09:03:52 PM
@STM:No it's not. There's no Jessie and James, you can't get the 3 starters withou trading, Gary doesn't have the eveelutions, and the gym leaders don't have the same pokemons.
Fanservice, negligible since you only need two more, point, negligible since they weren't much harder.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on July 31, 2009, 09:04:29 PM
@STM:No it's not. There's no Jessie and James, you can't get the 3 starters withou trading, Gary doesn't have the eveelutions, and the gym leaders don't have the same pokemons.

Really says something about Yellow when these are the only differences you can think of, doesn't it? Not something good, either.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on July 31, 2009, 09:11:29 PM
Oh, and I forgot the surfing Pikachu minigame, it was quite fun.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on July 31, 2009, 09:11:45 PM
You could argue the Surfing Pikachu mini-game, but that only served as a nice distraction if you happened to have the surfing pikachu from Stadium, I believe.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: TeaOfJay on July 31, 2009, 09:33:58 PM
You could argue the Surfing Pikachu mini-game, but that only served as a nice distraction if you happened to have the surfing pikachu from Stadium, I believe.

Or hacked Surf onto your Pikachu.

Which wasn't that hard back in the day.

Not that it's hard now. The hard part is making it look legit while still being hacked.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on July 31, 2009, 10:05:13 PM
Please, making things look legit is easier today than ever.  There are websites that literally offer copies of promotional Pokemon as Pokesav downloads.  It doesn't get more legit-looking than that.

What stinks with Surfing Pikachu, though, is that Surf comes only from Battle Revolution, and as such you're stuck with a Hardy Nature.  The tourney-players usually go with Grass Knot for that reason.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on August 02, 2009, 02:37:43 AM
Pokémon Sunday (August 2, 2009) Kanto confirmed!


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTibkjoFZPk[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on August 02, 2009, 02:42:36 AM
Great that Kanto was even in the origional Gold and Silver, which you took a boat to go there, now you get a train to go there. *insert rs wily laugh here*

There's even more irony when the subject matters almost changed completely when they even mentioned the little yellow bastard, pikachu.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on August 02, 2009, 02:48:11 AM
That's not ironic.


At all.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on August 02, 2009, 02:57:36 AM
It might not be, but there wasn't a better word for it, so I fixed the first scentence a bit. [/lameass excuse]

Everyone did saw it coming, and yet the people went OMGhype over it like it was some new addition. oh well.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: AquaTeamV3 on August 02, 2009, 03:54:02 AM
Great that Kanto was even in the origional Gold and Silver, which you took a boat to go there, now you get a train to go there. *insert rs wily laugh here*

You do know that a train was used in the original G/S/C, right?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on August 02, 2009, 04:16:17 AM
You go by boat to Vermilion, yes, but mostly because the train was closed. The bullet train opens up around the time you get to Saffron and get the Magnet Rail Pass. This is nothing new at all.

Nonetheless, good to see Kanto's in, or at least have it confirmed.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on August 02, 2009, 05:07:00 AM
Now to see what becomes of the Hoenn rumors.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on August 02, 2009, 07:44:57 AM
Cool 3D bullet train.
And yeah, now for the Hoenn rumours...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on August 04, 2009, 09:28:42 PM
Intro Pokemon Heart Gold and Soul Silver ( in better quality)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hA0fMe9tkA&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Epokeplus%2Enet%2Fdrupal6%2Fcontent%2Fv%25C3%25A1rios%2Dpok%25C3%25A9mon%2Dsunday%2Daberturas%2Dde%2Dhg%2De%2Dss&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on August 04, 2009, 09:38:40 PM
Looks like the intro went well.. and the Rockets get a nice revamp also~
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on August 08, 2009, 05:58:58 PM
(http://i27.tinypic.com/2cdd53m.jpg)
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Quote from: PokéBeach
The largest piece of information revealed is the return of Apricorns and making Poke Balls out of them, though we already knew they would be included due to an Apricorn tree's presence in the demos of the games. As the first and second scans show above, all seven Apricorn Poke Balls from Gold and Silver return. However, a new feature for the remakes will be the inclusion of an Apricorn Case, a new item that you keep in your bag which allows you to grow Apricorns on the go!


Friend Ball - the caught Pokemon has high happiness after being captured; made from Green Apricorn.
Heavy Ball - catch rate is higher the heavier the Pokemon is; Black Apricorn.
Love Ball - 8x better catch rate if the wild Pokemon is the opposite gender of your Pokemon; Pink Apricorn.
Fast Ball - 4x better catch rate if the wild Pokemon flees from battle; White Apricorn.
Level Ball - higher catch rate for lower-leveled Pokemon; made from Red Apricorn.
Moon Ball - 4x better catch rate for Pokemon that evolve from the Moon Stone; Yellow Apricorn.
Lure Ball - 3x better catch rate for Pokemon caught on a fishing rod; Blue Apricorn.


The rest of the scans reveal the return of the National Park's Bug Catching Contest (third scan), where you attempt to capture the best Bug-type Pokemon and the Mystery Egg (fourth scan), which eventually hatched into a Togepi in the original games. The Safari Zone (fifth scan) is new to the Johto region and is located in Cianwood City. A new Johto Battle Frontier is also confirmed, the entrance of which is seen on the right side of the sixth scan along with the Magnet Train. The seventh scan shows Raikou's sprite, while the eighth and ninth scans depict an encounter with a Level 50 Rayquaza. As reported in June, the Rayquaza will appear in either game once Kyogre and Groudon, each of which is version-exclusive, are captured and traded over to one game.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Night on August 09, 2009, 02:31:14 AM
(http://i27.tinypic.com/1zwc57d.jpg)
>Dialga and palkia double battle

Please tell me they're not wild...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on August 09, 2009, 02:39:46 AM
>Dialga and palkia double battle

Please tell me they're not wild...

They aren't. It's just showing off the attacks in the scan.

Posted on: August 08, 2009, 07:38:06 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HWay2D3joY[/youtube]

Oh look. Mewtwo.

Where's Hypershell? 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on August 09, 2009, 02:42:31 AM
owo Mewtwo! I feel love~
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on August 09, 2009, 02:44:44 AM
Looks like Mewtwo's confirmed, good to see that he's not JUST only available in FR/LG.  ~w~
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on August 09, 2009, 02:45:49 AM
owo Mewtwo! I feel love~

:p I have a Shining Mewtwo
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Night on August 09, 2009, 02:34:27 PM
They aren't. It's just showing off the attacks in the scan.

That would be awesome though...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on August 09, 2009, 04:29:23 PM
I did have a thought about the Safari Zone, is it more likely that it's where you'll be able to catch third-generation Pokemon there than actually having access to Hoenn?

Something tells me Nintendo/Game Freak would rather save Hoenn for the RSE remake after they release the fifth-generation games. =P
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on August 09, 2009, 04:44:59 PM
Awesome update this is.
And an item to grow your own Apricorns on the go... Just dandy. :3

Also, hehe, where is Hypershell. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on August 09, 2009, 06:06:43 PM
Better scans;

(http://i27.tinypic.com/97p894.jpg)(http://i30.tinypic.com/152p2r4.jpg)
(http://i25.tinypic.com/qxqb0i.jpg)(http://i32.tinypic.com/21d3fxu.jpg)


Quote from: PokéBeach
The first scan reveals that in regards to the Safari Zone, you can customize its layout and send it to your friends to use, similar to how you can create your own levels in Super Smash Brothers Brawl. From available Pokemon you can change where they will appear; not many details are known about how this will work, however. In the Safari Zone's entrance, you can use a computer called "Custom Area" to switch around and customize the area's appearance.

For the Bug-Catching Contest in National Park, it is confirmed that the competitions will only occur on Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday like in the original Gold and Silver games. The contest will use "Konpe" Poke Balls, which is probably short for "Compe(tition)."

The top of the second scan introduces a new use for the Apricorns - they can be mixed into drinks that increase your Pokemon's Pokethlon stats. A new item called the "Apricorn Shaker" pulverizes your Apricorns into the juice. You simply place your Apricorns inside the Apricorn Shaker, walk around a little, and the Apricorns will eventually produce juice for you to feed to your Pokemon. In the scan it shows that Chikorita has gained one star in its Pokethlon speed stat through this method. Additionally, it is revealed that Apricorns can be picked from trees once a day. The scan also reveals the new Ken Sugimori artwork for Poke Ball maker Kurt, who crafts Poke Balls out of Apricorns.

The third scan does not reveal much new information. It states that you can go to Kanto by boat to earn more badges, which of course we already knew. When talking about Johto's new Battle Frontier, it mentions there is a new "Frontier Front," though it does not go into details about what it is.

The scan also discusses the Wi-Fi event in which you can unlock the "Yellow Forest" route on the Pokewalker to capture Pikachu, but it still does not reveal the special move some of the Pikachu will know. However, the artwork in the background clearly shows a Pikachu flying with balloons, so perhaps some of the Pikachu will know Fly.

In regards to the Pokethlon events, three new ones are revealed: Break Block, Change Relay, and Push Circle. Break Block seems to involve karate chopping brick blocks, Change Relay is another race but with only one of your Pokemon, and Push Circle seems to be another ring match in which you knock Pokemon out of a ring.

The final scan is obviously discussing Kyogre, Groudon, and Rayquaza in the two games. The trio will fight you at Level 50 each. Their locations are not revealed in the scans, though it appears they reside in caves. The scan reaffirms that Kyogre can only be caught in HeartGold, while Groudon can only be caught in SoulSilver - bringing both together to one of the two games will allow you to encounter Rayquaza.

As hinted in the box showing a battle for the 2010 World Championship's video game tournament, Pokemon Sunday yesterday confirmed that Legendary Pokemon will be allowed in the tournament: Mewtwo, Lugia, Ho-Oh, Groudon, Kyogre, Rayquaza, Dialga, Palkia and Giratina can be on your team. One of the hosts on Pokemon Sunday stated that he has always had a Kyogre but was never able to use it, which means he caught it in Sapphire. If so, Pokemon Sunday may be implying that players can use the above legendaries from any of your games at next year's tournament, not just the Ho-Oh, Kyogre, Dialga, etc. caught in HeartGold and SoulSilver.

Pokemon Sunday also revealed that the Dialga, Palkia, or Giratina your Arceus creates in the Shinto Ruins will each come with their respective Adamant, Lustrous, and Griseous Orbs.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on August 09, 2009, 06:15:24 PM
Apricorn juice ehh...
And custom Safari Zone maps... They really are adding a whole lot of new stuff in. :3
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: HyperSonicEXE on August 09, 2009, 06:27:33 PM
>>Frontier Front

Front front front front front front front....
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on August 11, 2009, 02:42:00 AM
Oh look. Mewtwo.

Where's Hypershell? 8D
*does zee uppercut*

YES!!!

Now give him Rocket Armor so that Special Attack = Special Defense. 8D

Quote
Pokemon Sunday also revealed that the Dialga, Palkia, or Giratina your Arceus creates in the Shinto Ruins will each come with their respective Adamant, Lustrous, and Griseous Orbs.
There goes my last lingering reason to get Platinum (I like the original Rotom)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on August 11, 2009, 04:37:22 AM
Not like those Rotom forms are useful. You can't even wifi with them.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Kit on August 11, 2009, 09:08:04 PM
Oh man, I'm excited enough for Rayquaza to be in it.

Not like those Rotom forms are useful. You can't even wifi with them.

Well, then thank God I got Platinum on a rom.
Still sucks though. Diamond and Pearl disappointed me so much.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on August 11, 2009, 09:26:08 PM
Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver site *updated*

http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/hgss/
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Kit on August 11, 2009, 09:59:44 PM
Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver site *updated*

http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/hgss/

How does I moonspeak?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on August 11, 2009, 10:02:47 PM
Here's the actual update (8/11):
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/hgss/news/03.html

Arceus, Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, and stuff. ^^;
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Kit on August 12, 2009, 03:04:58 AM
Here's the actual update (8/11):
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/hgss/news/03.html

Arceus, Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, and stuff. ^^;

woooohooo~
I so can't wait for this game.
Although I have to admit I wish they'd do a bit more with the whole breeding thing.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on August 14, 2009, 11:04:20 PM
English trailer (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/debut-trailer-pokemon-heartgold/54266)

COMING SPRING 2010!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on August 14, 2009, 11:13:06 PM
Next year?! good thing we got a half a year to go then..  o-O
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on August 14, 2009, 11:49:27 PM
Not surprised at date.

I still say the localization team should've renamed them Golden Heart and Silver Soul though.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Night on August 15, 2009, 04:32:56 AM
Nah, Thsi goes with Fire Red and Leaf Green's title better
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on August 15, 2009, 04:41:39 AM
I still say the localization team should've renamed them Golden Heart and Silver Soul though.

GTFO with that [parasitic bomb].
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on August 15, 2009, 07:31:00 AM
Yep, not surprised at release date.
Unless I missed it in the original Japanese trailer...
Tyranitar's sprite looks tame. D:
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on August 16, 2009, 08:29:24 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTqBUdEzvQk[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on August 17, 2009, 04:50:31 PM
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/hgss/special/movie.html

New Trailer.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on August 17, 2009, 05:07:32 PM
Touchscreen Pokemon box activities.
YESSSSSSSSSS
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on August 17, 2009, 05:09:13 PM
That is rather great.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on August 21, 2009, 01:58:05 AM
(http://i30.tinypic.com/dlkoow.png)

GameStop/EB Games is taking preorders now.

Also, probably not the actual release date, but most likely somewhere around that time.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on August 21, 2009, 02:00:34 AM
April 1st?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sparky on August 21, 2009, 02:01:54 AM
April 1st?

Now I know what to spend my birthday money on, if that's the earliest possible date.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on August 21, 2009, 02:03:54 AM
I think I might be hanging around RPM too much, April 1st is starting to make me paranoid.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 21, 2009, 02:04:41 AM
At least we have more of a general idea of when it comes out now.  I can't wait to get this game since I only played Crystal and my brother only had Gold so I'll get Silver.  Plus I always buy the second mentioned game like Blue, Sapphire, Leaf Green, and Pearl while my brother buys the others but doesn't play as much.

I think I might be hanging around RPM too much, April 1st is starting to make me paranoid.
Meh it happens anywhere dude.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on August 21, 2009, 02:06:12 AM
I don't go just anywhere, I go to RPM and it fucks with my head.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 21, 2009, 02:09:50 AM
I don't go just anywhere, I go to RPM and it fucks with my head.
Not even Youtube, because they do crazy things on April Fools Day unless you're just talking about the community in general.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on August 21, 2009, 02:10:56 AM
Bit soon for pre-orders... but hey, EB loves taking your money and throwing it in a high-interest savings account since it'll be doing nothing but sitting there until the purchase is complete.

This will turn out coming out in late March to late April, if general trends with the last few games is anything to go by.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on August 21, 2009, 02:11:30 AM
I've never seen YouTube do crazy things on April 1st, cause they usually stop at around the time I wake up.

And I mean RPM in general, fucks with my head.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 21, 2009, 02:17:15 AM
I've never seen YouTube do crazy things on April 1st, cause they usually stop at around the time I wake up.
Well to fill you in the last April Fools day the videos in your subscriptions, or the home page, were upside down and the year before that the videos were all rickrolls.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on August 21, 2009, 02:23:12 AM
Oh I know what they did, I just never got to see them or anything.
Like I said, I wake up too god damn late and miss out on it.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on August 21, 2009, 04:00:49 PM
I think I might be hanging around RPM too much, April 1st is starting to make me paranoid.
Nah, it's a natural feeling.

Still, good to know.
Any word on preorder bonuses?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on August 21, 2009, 04:11:24 PM
I pre-ordered Pokemon Heart Gold and Soul Silver and all I got was this lousy t-shirt
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on August 21, 2009, 10:21:41 PM
HG/SS is gonna have Pal Park.

Quote from: PokéBeach
In case there was any doubt, HeartGold and SoulSilver will still feature the Pal Park. Of course, it will only be usable if the games are inserted into a Nintendo DS or DS Lite since the Nintendo DSi does not have a GBA slot to connect to the GBA games. According to the official Nintendo website (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/ipkj/index.html)...

Pokemon HeartGold and SoulSilver are remakes of the Game Boy Pokemon Gold and Pokemon Silver (doy).

HeartGold and SoulSilver have differences in "types of Pokemon that appear" and "Pokemon appearance percentages."
Communicates with "HeartGold," "SoulSilver," "Diamond," "Pearl," "Platinum," "Pokemon Battle Revolution," also using the double slot feature with "Ruby," "Sapphire," "Emerald," "FireRed," and "LeafGreen." (Communication using the double slot feature is only supported by the Nintendo DS and Nintendo DS Lite.)

PokeWalker only supported by "HeartGold" and "SoulSilver."

Can not communicate with Game Boy and Game Cube Pokemon series games. Also, not supported by Wii Ware "My Pokemon Ranch (including Platinum version)."
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on August 21, 2009, 10:36:51 PM
They're going to try and sell a different version of Pokemon Ranch, aren't they. They [tornado fang]ing are.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on August 22, 2009, 10:46:49 AM
Ah, the joys of business...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on August 22, 2009, 03:10:11 PM
Pretty much amounts to a free $10.

So, double slot goodness, eh? Probably the same deal as DPP with how the GBA games worked in those.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on August 23, 2009, 02:58:24 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbd-cU8NgcM[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on August 23, 2009, 03:09:22 AM
Whoever is in charge of the plugins for the forum, should update the youtube video so it fits the widescreens now, instead of the standard that aren't used anymore.
I don't know about anyone else, but it just causes some video lag for me.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on August 23, 2009, 08:10:21 AM
Heh... I can't even see the youtube vid, it's a plugin window for me... >.>;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbd-cU8NgcM
I lol'd at the announcer who got ignored for his... Word Play I guess? XD
So... Rayquaza, Bug Catching Competiton and the Safari Zone customization...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on August 26, 2009, 06:07:46 PM
3 new trailers are available to people who have a Japanese Wii (Shame on you Vixy for not mentioning anything).

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpZaFNFpico[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on August 26, 2009, 06:20:59 PM
Sweet, the Headbutt mechanic remains intact... Pineco/Heracross hunting again. XD
And d'aww at the CG'd starters and Pichu.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on August 30, 2009, 02:09:54 PM
Quote
Pokemon Co. seems to be gearing up for a big promotional push for Pokemon Heart Gold and Soul Silver. I've recently seen retail displays pop up at Tokyo game shops promoting the game's "Pokewalker" peripheral. And today, the publisher detailed a launch event for the game.

The launch event will take place on September 26 and September 27 at the Roppongi Hills facility in central Tokyo. The event is formally titled Pocket Monsters Heart Gold/Soul Silver Launch Commemoration Pokemon Day in Roppongi Hills.

The official event page is a bit vague at present, but does promise that attendees will be able to "experience the things that happen in the game." What in the world could that mean?

Additionally, attendees will be able to learn the latest about the Pokemon card game, and sample WiiWare's Pokemon Scramble.

Specific details will be announced next week.

As a launch event, Pokemon Day will be coming a bit late. Heart Gold and Soul Silver hit on September 12.

Source (http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2009/08/28/pokemon_launch_event/)

Posted on: August 28, 2009, 01:37:23 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z63OZ2jVDFE[/youtube]

...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on August 30, 2009, 02:53:56 PM
At least there's Silver, and his VS intro... -_-
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 01, 2009, 04:34:20 PM
Famitsu score;

Pocket Monsters HeartGold /SoulSilver (NDS, Nintendo): 9 / 10 / 9 / 9 - (37/40)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on September 01, 2009, 04:40:14 PM
I'm somehow more surprised that it wasn't a 10/10/10/10.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on September 01, 2009, 06:14:33 PM
Hehe, I have the same feelings too. >0<
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on September 01, 2009, 06:59:24 PM
Still better than 6/6/6/6 or lower anywho. ratings aren't EVERYTHING all the time when it comes to good remakes~

I'm thinking that this will receive a 9.0 out of a perfect 10.0 in america, since rating systems ARE diffrent.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 02, 2009, 10:03:46 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2GFRhhJcno[/youtube]


I'm thinking that this will receive a 9.0 out of a perfect 10.0 in america, since rating systems ARE diffrent.

Quote
Review scores:

GameSpot 8.8 of 10

IGN 10 of 10

Nintendo Power 8.7 of 10

Original G/S US review scores. So yeah, most likely. >_>
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on September 04, 2009, 12:43:39 AM
"This video has been removed due to a terms of use violation."

Somehow, I could honestly imagine that popping up on my DS screen......
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 04, 2009, 12:46:50 AM
"This video has been removed due to a terms of use violation."

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCcRcSKbdUg[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on September 04, 2009, 05:16:46 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCcRcSKbdUg
Did that second guy say Tyranitar was cute?
... I have to agree with him. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 04, 2009, 06:21:00 PM
(http://i29.tinypic.com/2prittz.jpg)

Quote from: Serebii.net
A new scan has come up on japanese imageboards which seems to indicate that the legendary birds; Articuno, Zapdos & Moltres are to be placed in the Pokémon Heart Gold & Soul Silver. It does not say where they are in the games nor what level they will be at. However, as soon as that information comes, I shall post it here so be sure to check back during our coverage next weekend.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on September 04, 2009, 06:22:28 PM
But they were just in Platinum! D:
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on September 04, 2009, 06:29:31 PM
If they're random encounters in Kanto I swear I'll kill someone. I hope they are in the same place as in RBY but with the areas modified.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on September 05, 2009, 11:22:03 PM
(http://i29.tinypic.com/2prittz.jpg)


I have another image ^^ .. Bugsy

(http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/4428/bugsyu.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on September 05, 2009, 11:53:18 PM
Is there a cleaner version fo Bugsy somewhere?  ::)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 06, 2009, 01:37:32 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlpcGNfdoZo[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Waifu on September 06, 2009, 02:48:56 AM
I have another image ^^ .. Bugsy

(http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/4428/bugsyu.jpg)

I like the old one beter especially since he didn't really look all androgynous.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on September 06, 2009, 03:11:43 AM
I like the old one beter especially since he didn't really look all androgynous.

Imagine what the others look like then~
Must be because that it was most likely poor quality. I'm sure a cleaner one will turn up, like Gold and Soul.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 06, 2009, 06:39:39 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlpcGNfdoZo[/youtube]

^To follow up on the video I posted;

Quote from: PokéBeach
The female character is named Kotone. Thus, she is not Kris, the original Pokemon Crystal girl.

You can hear water when you get close to it with your character.

There is now an option to make the Running Shoes permanent. As in, you do not have to hit B to run faster - your character will just walk faster by default.

Your Starter Pokemon begins to follow you the instant Professor Elm gives it to you.

The staff strongly suggested that some of the Pikachu on the PokeWalker's Yellow Course know Fly... not that there was any doubt about that. They showed the months-old promotional artwork of Pikachu on the course, pointing out that one of them in the background is flying with balloons. They blatantly stated that this was a hint as to what the special move would be.

A new Pokethlon event is "Steal Flag," which is essentially capture-the-flag. Your Pokemon basically gather up flags and bring them back to a goal. This event deals with the speed and technique stats.

Another new Pokethlon event is "Catch Saucer," where you control three Pokemon together and must capture as many flying saucer discs as possible. It deals with the jump and power stats.

Permanent Running shoes?

FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YEAH!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Harruhy on September 06, 2009, 06:44:23 AM
Permanent Running shoes?

(http://i32.tinypic.com/mjoe2c.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 06, 2009, 09:53:57 AM
Higher quality video.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0tjmP1BBX4[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Keno on September 06, 2009, 10:46:55 AM
Took them long enough to make you run all the time.

I hope the Pokémon that follows you gets its own little bicycle.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on September 06, 2009, 05:08:12 PM
Very nice video, and yes for permanent Running Shoes. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Night on September 06, 2009, 07:35:47 PM
Took them long enough to make you run all the time.

I hope the Pokémon that follows you gets its own little bicycle.

They'd probably just jump on your back as you ride.

If it was small enough...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on September 06, 2009, 08:47:59 PM
Some images..
Pokemon HG/SS Booklet/Guide

http://pokemon-project.com/userfiles/HG-SS-Guía.jpg (http://pokemon-project.com/userfiles/HG-SS-Guía.jpg)

http://pokemon-project.com/userfiles/HG-SS-Guía1.jpg (http://pokemon-project.com/userfiles/HG-SS-Guía1.jpg)

http://pokemon-project.com/userfiles/HG-SS-Guía2.jpg (http://pokemon-project.com/userfiles/HG-SS-Guía2.jpg)

http://pokemon-project.com/userfiles/HG-SS-Guía3.jpg (http://pokemon-project.com/userfiles/HG-SS-Guía3.jpg)

http://pokemon-project.com/userfiles/HG-SS-Guía4.jpg (http://pokemon-project.com/userfiles/HG-SS-Guía4.jpg)

Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on September 06, 2009, 09:29:47 PM
Her name's Kotono. I wonder what they'll name Gold... wait, automatic running shoes!? *alleluja song plays*

Some images..
Pokemon HG/SS Booklet/Guide

http://pokemon-project.com/userfiles/HG-SS-Guía.jpg (http://pokemon-project.com/userfiles/HG-SS-Guía.jpg)

http://pokemon-project.com/userfiles/HG-SS-Guía1.jpg (http://pokemon-project.com/userfiles/HG-SS-Guía1.jpg)

http://pokemon-project.com/userfiles/HG-SS-Guía2.jpg (http://pokemon-project.com/userfiles/HG-SS-Guía2.jpg)

http://pokemon-project.com/userfiles/HG-SS-Guía3.jpg (http://pokemon-project.com/userfiles/HG-SS-Guía3.jpg)

http://pokemon-project.com/userfiles/HG-SS-Guía4.jpg (http://pokemon-project.com/userfiles/HG-SS-Guía4.jpg)



You forgot to finish the URL silly XD! Oh well, nice scans anyway~
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Night on September 06, 2009, 10:33:58 PM
The guy rocket has pink hair.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on September 07, 2009, 02:29:50 AM
He's manly that way.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Psycho Yuffie on September 07, 2009, 03:04:21 AM
Bugsy was always androgynous. I thought he was a girl the first time I played Gold.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on September 07, 2009, 03:07:11 AM
What Nodo said. Also, yay for permanent Running Shoes eventhough I'll be too busy using a bike/Fly to even appreciate them.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Psycho Yuffie on September 07, 2009, 03:09:13 AM
When do these games come out in Japan?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sparky on September 07, 2009, 03:09:47 AM
When do these games come out in Japan?

This coming Friday.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on September 07, 2009, 03:10:35 AM
Or maybe sooner if you know how.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on September 07, 2009, 03:21:05 AM
Bugsy was always androgynous. I thought he was a girl the first time I played Gold.
... I need to post that one pic of Bugsy...
Jelly would be pleased. 8D

Posted on: September 07, 2009, 09:11:06
See? 8D
[spoiler=DATASS](http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/9541/pokeoe00637.png)[/spoiler]
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Psycho Yuffie on September 07, 2009, 03:24:21 AM
... I need to post that one pic of Bugsy...
Jelly would be pleased. 8D

Posted on: September 07, 2009, 09:11:06
See? 8D
[spoiler=DATASS](http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/9541/pokeoe00637.png)[/spoiler]
Jelly wants some of that booty~
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Keno on September 07, 2009, 04:30:38 AM
If it was small enough...
I saw a Tyranitar in a video. I wanna see it look like what's-his-face on the pocket bike in Planet Terror.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: SUIKA on September 08, 2009, 05:52:48 PM
  My recent pre-order for (both) these games fill me with excitement.

  And I have to say, Masuda, he's, very handsome.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Keno on September 09, 2009, 04:29:08 AM
I have to get a new micro SD card because mine sprung out across my room into somewhere where it will never be found. I think I'll play it in Japanese, for shits & giggles, & because I'm so excited to play them.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 09, 2009, 08:00:08 AM
Apparently, Latios and Latias are roaming Pokémon in Kanto. (http://serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/legends.shtml)

Also, more info;

Quote from: Serebii
* First, Pal Park is in this game and is located in Fuchsia City where the Safari Zone was in FireRed & LeafGreen
* Next, you can trade from Diamond, Pearl & Platinum as soon as you get the Pokédex
* Snorlax is findable outside Diglett's Cave again at Level 50.
* Red is findable in Silver Cave again, with a slightly different Pokémon Roster

Plus, You're able to pick one of each of the Gen1&3 starters through out the game (http://serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/starters.shtml)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on September 09, 2009, 08:54:16 AM
I'm not sure if I want to play it in Japanese or not, I mean, I can get the idea of a few things going on.
but I know I'll be missing out on some things.

Thank god for the internet though! 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on September 09, 2009, 10:01:45 AM
Pokemon dialogue.

Pretty scintillating stuff.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on September 09, 2009, 02:48:11 PM
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF at new info.
And the amount of legendaries too, from all regions...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on September 09, 2009, 10:48:39 PM
Pokemon dialogue.

Pretty scintillating stuff.
If I don't know what's going on, I'll get lost! LOST!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on September 09, 2009, 11:28:45 PM
I like shorts. They're comfy and easy to wear.

Hey! You're not wearing shorts!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on September 10, 2009, 04:52:08 AM
Problem solved.  Pokemove along here, everyone!  XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on September 10, 2009, 04:54:16 AM
Okay you've got me, I'll totally play it in Japanese, but if I get lost I'm blaming a certain Buffalo for my misery!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Keno on September 10, 2009, 07:51:56 PM
The attacks being in Japanese is worse than the dialogue being in Japanese, anyway.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on September 10, 2009, 07:58:07 PM
Random ripping time~ ^^

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/pokemon-hgss-trainer01.gif) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/pokemon-hgss-trainer02.gif)

Wait for more good things, like music and stuff. :3
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 10, 2009, 08:09:25 PM
Wait for more good things, like music and stuff. :3

Oh, I am.

Also, Team Rocket grunt disguise sprites please~
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on September 10, 2009, 08:13:34 PM
(http://stuff.veekun.com/hgss-trainers.png)

Surge looks like a clone of Guile. Also, is that Giovanni to the right of Lance, left of Diamond/Lucas?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on September 10, 2009, 08:23:48 PM
'>.>

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/pokemon-hgss-goldicon.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/pokemon-hgss-silvericon.png)

Posted on: September 10, 2009, 20:17:58
Music previews~ (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/HGSS-BGM/) ^^
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on September 10, 2009, 08:31:14 PM
VS Lance/Red music (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCCxZ9SMABs)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 10, 2009, 08:35:51 PM
VS Lance/Red music (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCCxZ9SMABs)

(http://i32.tinypic.com/mjoe2c.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on September 10, 2009, 09:15:20 PM
I ripped the music into 2SF. MP3's might show up later. ^^
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on September 10, 2009, 09:16:19 PM
(http://stuff.veekun.com/hgss-trainers.png)

Surge looks like a clone of Guile. Also, is that Giovanni to the right of Lance, left of Diamond/Lucas?

I'm suprised you managed to rip these before TSR did.. oh well, they DID rip Mario & Luigi 3 anyway. Sprite Archive anyone? XD

Also, LOVE the Final Battle/Secret Trainer Battle remix, good show.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on September 10, 2009, 10:29:26 PM
Pokemon Back (http://stuff.veekun.com/hgss-back.png)

Pokemon Front (http://stuff.veekun.com/hgss-frame2.png)

Pokemon Shiny (http://stuff.veekun.com/hgss-shiny.png)

Posted on: September 10, 2009, 21:21:11
I'm confirming this here and now:
The original 8-bit Game Boy music is inside the games! Fan service~ O^O
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on September 10, 2009, 10:43:29 PM
THAT! is awesome!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on September 10, 2009, 10:47:44 PM
I have no a DS  :'(, nyah!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on September 10, 2009, 11:31:27 PM
? Am I the only one that can't hear his pokemon's sound effects when the audio is set to stereo?

I have no a DS  :'(, nyah!

That's something that needs to be fixed. However, you don't really need one if you know what I mean.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on September 10, 2009, 11:40:41 PM
I'm having problems with it on my Cyclo. :|
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 10, 2009, 11:46:00 PM
I'm having problems with it on my Cyclo. :|

I'm having the same problems on my R4. D:
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on September 10, 2009, 11:47:02 PM
So, both of you are having trouble with the sound too?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on September 10, 2009, 11:48:39 PM
Actually after battles sometimes the screen goes black, and doesn't do anything.
So I gotta reset.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on September 10, 2009, 11:49:16 PM
I think you all have to wait for a new patch to fix that problem. '>.>
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 10, 2009, 11:49:32 PM
So, both of you are having trouble with the sound too?

Not me. The screen goes black when I enter/finish a battle or enter/leave a building.

I think you all have to wait for a new patch to fix that problem. '>.>

Probably.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on September 10, 2009, 11:51:56 PM
I think I saw a patch somewhere, I didn't bother with it though. :0
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Psycho Yuffie on September 10, 2009, 11:56:36 PM
I've played up until your first battle with your rival and then the game froze. Turns out, that even though I saved a lot, it doesn't matter because it never created a save file. I'm not sure why.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on September 10, 2009, 11:58:09 PM
I found a patch, I'm gonna try it out.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on September 10, 2009, 11:59:32 PM
Could you share it?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 11, 2009, 12:01:01 AM
Could you share it?

http://ndsdl.com/pokemon-heart-gold-soul-silver-patch/

He shared it with me first. 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on September 11, 2009, 12:06:09 AM
I'll try it whenever I can, do share if it fixed things though.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on September 11, 2009, 12:06:52 AM
So far so good.
Patching it with WINE sure made things confusing though. 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Psycho Yuffie on September 11, 2009, 12:07:24 AM
That's the patch for flash cards. It makes the game a bit more stable, but it still crashes. It won't make it work on an emulator, though.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on September 11, 2009, 12:11:49 AM
So far I haven't black screened.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Psycho Yuffie on September 11, 2009, 12:12:53 AM
The game didn't work for me until I downloaded a patch for No$GBA itself.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on September 11, 2009, 12:49:10 AM
I ripped the music into 2SF. MP3's might show up later. ^^
You could always just up the 2SFs for those of us who know how to play them... :3

My thanks for all the sprite rips.  Dragonite, Lance, Mewtwo, they all look badass.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on September 11, 2009, 01:22:29 AM
Oh alright, but just this once. Have fun listening to over 1370 unorganized 2sf's. :3

I am converting them to mp3 so I can rename them a little easier later.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on September 11, 2009, 02:15:50 AM
Looking into some move set changes on Serebii.  Looks like the "Uber" 'mans are getting a serious leg up over their already insane power.

-Ho-oh and Lugia both get Weather Ball, and Ho-oh also gets Brave Bird (YES!).  Lugia gets......Dragon Rush. o-O
-Kyogre gets Aqua Ring and Muddy Water, just in case the complete water stacking overkill bulk monstrocity didn't [acid burst] you off enough.
-Groudon finally Lava Plumes, which will make for a world of hurt with a Flash Fire partner.  He also gets Hammer Arm.  Ouch.
-The new moves for 4th-gen's legendary dragons are not exclusive to Arceus-made ones, they're part of the normal HG/SS level up.  So, yeah, enjoy a lot of Metal Bursting Dialgas.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on September 11, 2009, 02:22:17 AM
... I will still wait for localization... -_-
Though, a huge thanks to you Vixy, for all the rips thus far. :cookie:
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on September 11, 2009, 02:23:42 AM
Looking into some move set changes on Serebii.  Looks like the "Uber" 'mans are getting a serious leg up over their already insane power.

-Ho-oh and Lugia both get Weather Ball, and Ho-oh also gets Brave Bird (YES!).  Lugia gets......Dragon Rush. o-O
-Kyogre gets Aqua Ring and Muddy Water, just in case the complete water stacking overkill bulk monstrocity didn't [acid burst] you off enough.
-Groudon finally Lava Plumes, which will make for a world of hurt with a Flash Fire partner.  He also gets Hammer Arm.  Ouch.
-The new moves for 4th-gen's legendary dragons are not exclusive to Arceus-made ones, they're part of the normal HG/SS level up.  So, yeah, enjoy a lot of Metal Bursting Dialgas.

Oh [parasitic bomb], I am SO importing Kyogre, Groundon, and whatever the hell I have in my team when the game comes out.. and I'll be havin' mah WiFi by then. REVENGE~ >w<

..Gonna wait for localization 'tho..
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Night on September 11, 2009, 02:32:36 AM
I can't wait for the pokemon world sprites to be ripped!  :)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on September 11, 2009, 02:32:57 AM
Ok, I patched it, but I'm still getting the sound problem.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on September 11, 2009, 02:35:56 AM
Too much Japanese, it hurts my eyes.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Night on September 11, 2009, 03:36:54 AM
ああなんてこった、ケンタウルス重...

確かにいくつかの音節にうんざりするのに十分ではありません!

Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on September 11, 2009, 03:44:03 AM
I understood Centaur, 10, and isn't.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on September 11, 2009, 03:52:54 AM
I was just playing, and I ran over to the left and then suddenly there was nothing but black on that side of the screen and I was like "Well this isn't gonna end well" obviously I couldn't go past the black area, but as soon as I headed into a random encounter, it froze up. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sparky on September 11, 2009, 03:57:39 AM
Everything went nice for me...until I went to Violet City. Then the game froze there.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 11, 2009, 04:16:00 AM
I'm just gonna leave this quote here.

Quote from: PokéBeach
It appears that all of the Gym Leaders (Kanto and Johto) can be re-battled.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on September 11, 2009, 04:19:36 AM
So essentially, this is turning into the greatest Pokemon game ever.....kinda like how the original Silver was the greatest Pokemon game ever.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sparky on September 11, 2009, 04:28:00 AM
According to Kyouya, the new Ruins of Alph theme sounds similar to Old Chateau's theme.

...Do I smell haunting/ghost area compensation?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on September 11, 2009, 04:39:01 AM
So essentially, this is turning into the greatest Pokemon game ever.....kinda like how the original Silver was the greatest Pokemon game ever.

Ever since I started the game it gave me the feeling that this was the greatest Pokemon game ever. I have to agree with what I heard someone say, this really makes DPPt feel outdated even if they're not that old.

Also, the soundtrack, holy [parasitic bomb] the soundtrack is glorious.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 11, 2009, 04:41:42 AM
So essentially, this is turning into the greatest Pokemon game ever.....kinda like how the original Silver was the greatest Pokemon game ever.

God damn [tornado fang]ing straight!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Psycho Yuffie on September 11, 2009, 06:00:13 AM
Has anyone had any luck with saving?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 11, 2009, 06:50:18 AM
Has anyone had any luck with saving?

Yes. 'Course, I'm using a flashcard.

Also, there's gonna be an OST (http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-na-49-en-15-pokemon-70-3jss-43-9v.html) coming out next month.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on September 11, 2009, 07:13:00 AM
Quote
Red & Blue/Green do team up to battle you, but only at the Battle Frontier.

Is this true? Because I mean I'm not sure if it's true or not but it'd be pretty awesome if it was.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on September 11, 2009, 08:06:02 AM
The world would shatter in two if those two actually teamed up, especially after all the crap Blue gave Red.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Harruhy on September 11, 2009, 08:25:18 AM
The world would shatter in two if those two actually teamed up

God forbid anyone get to the Battle Frontier then.
Only if it's true anyways.


Though, as awesome as it would be for Red and Blue teaming up, it kinda takes away from the image of Red being such a great trainer and all that.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rin on September 11, 2009, 11:59:51 AM
I also ripped the music into 2sf. Just after I obtained the game.

Music is great. Truly great. Can't wait till' it comes out in english. But for now, english patches, Sribblenauts and M&L3 will have to hold me over.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Psycho Yuffie on September 11, 2009, 06:25:41 PM
There is an English patch out for anyone who is interested: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TNKUJZ28
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on September 11, 2009, 06:35:21 PM
How much does it translate?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on September 11, 2009, 06:40:28 PM
I think it translate things that's already exist from other Pokemon DS games (Pokemon names, Attack moves). ^^;

Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Soundtrack (Ripped and encoded by me)
Zip Archive (http://www.rockmanpm.com/down/click.php?id=385) | Folder (http://www.rockmanpm.com/down/click.php?id=386)

I'm working on renaming the tracks soon. :3
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on September 11, 2009, 06:46:38 PM
Holyshi-
Thanks a lot Vixy! :cookie:
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on September 11, 2009, 06:48:18 PM
Vix, you rock. 8) :cookie:

As the move changes sink in I think I seriously need to consider a Groudon team.  The amount of synergy he has going for Doubles is just too much.

It appears that all of the Gym Leaders (Kanto and Johto) can be re-battled.
......

F#$%&!! YEAH!!!

Now I don't need to devote an entire cartridge to being ready to fight Kanto Gym Leaders (yes, I honestly did that with Silver after getting Crystal).
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on September 11, 2009, 07:03:45 PM
Listen to "HGSS-132" and the 8-bit "HGSS-305"! Doesn't it sound awesome~? owo

The track is called "SEQ_GS_PT_GAMEF" and "SEQ_GS_P_PT_GAMEF" for the 8-bit one.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on September 11, 2009, 07:26:58 PM
Ultimate fanservice, indeed. 8)

I've noticed that they toyed a little with the 8-bit tunes.  They have a nifty echo effect to them, and some of the higher notes aren't as screechy as they used to be.  Kanto Gym Leader (296) never sounded more badass.

Getting into the various battle themes now.  Man, now I remember why I loved those games so much.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on September 11, 2009, 08:53:35 PM
I think it translate things that's already exist from other Pokemon DS games (Pokemon names, Attack moves). ^^;

Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Soundtrack (Ripped and encoded by me)
Zip Archive (http://www.rockmanpm.com/down/click.php?id=385) | Folder (http://www.rockmanpm.com/down/click.php?id=386)

I'm working on renaming the tracks soon. :3

Nyah!!!! Thankies my cookie!!! I love you! *kiss*
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 11, 2009, 09:07:18 PM
[spoiler](http://i25.tinypic.com/zxs8eh.png)

(http://i31.tinypic.com/2mrvcyv.png)

(http://i30.tinypic.com/op7a77.png)

(http://i27.tinypic.com/t6v8md.png)

(http://i32.tinypic.com/w976yq.png)

(http://i30.tinypic.com/21d3ole.png)

(http://i31.tinypic.com/serr52.png)[/spoiler]
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on September 11, 2009, 09:23:19 PM
Holy, all the origional legendaries at thier origional spots, makes catching them all much easier, and they have Mewtwo, not sure what had happened in the origional G/S/C (Don't know, but couldn't find Mewtwo)..
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 11, 2009, 09:24:29 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9JcI5LQvYc[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: HokutoNoBen on September 11, 2009, 10:24:37 PM
Gyat damn, GameFreak REALLY outdid themselves this time.

And my copy shipped today, too! ^___^ Can not wait to tear into this one...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on September 11, 2009, 10:29:39 PM
Now that's amazing. Game Freak at it's best~
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on September 11, 2009, 10:34:23 PM
Gyat damn, GameFreak REALLY outdid themselves this time.

Seriously, do these games have any flaw?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: HokutoNoBen on September 11, 2009, 10:40:00 PM
Seriously, do these games have any flaw?

They have YET to make a sequel to Pulseman.

That's about it, though!  8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on September 12, 2009, 12:16:19 AM
(http://i31.tinypic.com/serr52.png)
Lance and Clair double battle?  Hell yeah!

Man, waiting for localization is taking a lot of self-control.  But wait I shall.  For my 'mans are to grace only an original cartridge, and no matter how awesome the game is I don't think I'll be happy about starting from scratch when the proper english cart is out.

...very difficult to wait...... X(
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on September 12, 2009, 02:44:51 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9JcI5LQvYc
Seriously too awesome for words.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on September 12, 2009, 06:39:55 AM
Hmm now that we can get the 1st and 3rd generation starter pokemon, I wonder if I should choose Cyndaquil or Totodile for the first batch.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on September 12, 2009, 06:54:32 AM
Hmm now that we can get the 1st and 3rd generation starter pokemon, I wonder if I should choose Cyndaquil or Totodile for the first batch.

I think we both know the answer to that question, young one!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on September 12, 2009, 07:08:39 AM
Cyndaquil all the way.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on September 12, 2009, 07:09:51 AM
I think we both know the answer to that question, young one!
I don't know I'm really partial to Blaziken and I wanted to train a Feraligator due to it's sheer physical attack power, then again Typhlosion is decent even though it doesn't have as much attack veraiety as Blaziken.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on September 12, 2009, 07:12:45 AM
Heh, I'm kinda torn on everyone but Cyndaquil.  I already have a Sceptile at LVL100, but I kinda want a Blastoise more than a Swampert, despite Swampert's immunity to Electric. 
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on September 12, 2009, 07:16:43 AM
Yeah that's the only one I'm torn with because I will pick Venusaur, even though I probably won't use it, and Blaziken no matter what.

I already have a Sceptile at LVL100, but I kinda want a Blastoise more than a Swampert, despite Swampert's immunity to Electric. 
Why?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on September 12, 2009, 07:19:23 AM
Cause I like Blastoise, but usually never pick him due to me always starting with Fire, no matter what.  However, I already have a LVL100 Charizard, and a pretty good one too, so I'm probably going to go with Blastoise.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on September 12, 2009, 07:20:36 AM
Wait, people actually like feraligatr?

Mind blown.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on September 12, 2009, 07:27:00 AM
Cause I like Blastoise, but usually never pick him due to me always starting with Fire, no matter what.  However, I already have a LVL100 Charizard, and a pretty good one too, so I'm probably going to go with Blastoise.
Huh I never knew that I always picked the ones that had the best advantage in the journey such as Bulbasaur and Cyndaquil for Blue/Leaf Green and Crystal then experimented with Mudkip and Torchic Sapphire and found Torchic to be better then I just chose Piplup for Pearl cuz it was cute, I don't want to restart the game, and really those weren't my favorite starters.

Wait, people actually like feraligatr?

Mind blown.
Why what's wrong with him?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on September 12, 2009, 07:29:01 AM
Feraligator kicks ass.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on September 12, 2009, 07:29:43 AM
Huh I never knew that I always picked the ones that had the best advantage in the journey such as Bulbasaur and Cyndaquil for Blue/Leaf Green and Crystal then experimented with Mudkip and Torchic Sapphire and found Torchic to be better then I just chose Piplup for Pearl cuz it was cute, I don't want to restart the game, and really those weren't my favorite starters.

I always start with Fire, in every Pokemon game.  I like fire!   8)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on September 12, 2009, 07:31:28 AM
I always start with Fire, in every Pokemon game.  I like fire!   8)
True I like fire too but I think I'll pick Totodile and then find a Vulpix because that's one of my favorite Fire types and high speed definetly doesn't hurt.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on September 12, 2009, 07:32:50 AM
Feraligatr's just like gyarados. Except worse. And he looks ugly.

S'no good.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on September 12, 2009, 07:35:42 AM
But Gyarados has 4x weakness to electric.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on September 12, 2009, 07:37:25 AM
And Feraligatr can learn more attacks.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on September 12, 2009, 07:38:22 AM
And he's a freaking giant crocodile.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on September 12, 2009, 07:41:00 AM
And Totodile can DANCE!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on September 12, 2009, 07:42:00 AM
I think he has more special attack potenial and it's not really hard evovle like a Magikarp unless you do want to use exp share or switching it out.

And Totodile can DANCE!
Yes and all Magikarp can do is splash which can't even hurt a Charmander.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on September 12, 2009, 07:48:31 AM
Gyarados is still better. Immune to ground and resistant to fighting, yeeeeeah. Intimidate, yeeeeeeeeeeeah. Feraligatr's got like what it's got swords dance. And superpower I guess.

Also shiny gyarados looks cool while shiny feraligatr looks terrible.


Also also gyarados/electivire = ULTIMATE COMBO
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on September 12, 2009, 07:49:47 AM
Crystal Single-Segment Speedrun with Feraligator (http://speeddemosarchive.com/demo.pl?PokemonCrystal_SS_352)
Does he suck now?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on September 12, 2009, 07:51:08 AM
While I do like Intimidate being immune to Ground doesn't really matter since it's not super effective against water and I could just wipe said Ground type in question with Surf.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on September 12, 2009, 07:52:38 AM
You know, technically the best way to settle this Gyarados/Feraligatr debate is with a Pokemon Battle!  8)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on September 12, 2009, 07:55:22 AM
I would but 1. I haven't EV trained the thing, I think my friend was right EV training does take the fun out of Pokemon, and 2. My Wi-Fi's not working that's why I wasn't online for 2-3 days.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on September 12, 2009, 08:03:18 AM
You know, technically the best way to settle this Gyarados/Feraligatr debate is with a Pokemon Battle!  8)

Yeah, but I'd need to train a feraligatr, and then I'd need to build a team around it, 'cause it won't fit in to my current one like gyarados does, and then I'd need to battle a whole bunch with that new team to get a proper feel for it, and then I'd need to battle a whole bunch so I could properly evaluate how well the crocodilian does, and, well, y'know, screw it.

I mean I'm just gonna stick to complaining about colours if it's all the same to you.


Unless you're asking for a battle now which would be totally cool. I got my diamond team all ready to go. But I doubt you are.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on September 12, 2009, 08:05:10 AM
LoL, yeah.  I was just suggesting it for you two.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on September 12, 2009, 08:06:14 AM
I wish I could but again Wi-Fi and EV training...I hate you EV training.  Not to mention my Feraligatr's only like above 30 or so last I checked.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rin on September 12, 2009, 08:06:57 AM
I've picked Totodile, since I picked Cyndaquil in original Silver. Is not bad. I'm still at the beginning, triaining my Pidgey so he'll be level 10 like Toto.

And HOLY [parasitic bomb], you can team up with people? Like... with your rival for example? AWESOME. : D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on September 12, 2009, 08:13:18 AM
Now I have another thing in my mind, what should I name my Totodile and Torchic and what would happen if PB wrote a GoRPM based on said debate on Feraligatr and Gyrados.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on September 12, 2009, 08:16:30 AM
LoL, yeah.  I was just suggesting it for you two.

Yeah, but what would that prove? I mean there are gonna be ten other pokemon in there doin' their thing, and I assume there's gonna be a skill difference, too, so it's not like we're gonna be able to evaluate individual pokemon all that well. Especially with how easy pokemon got killed. All it takes is one mistake or instance of bad luck and they can go down, no matter how good they are. Y'know what it's like, you're about to kill some dude's whole team, suddenly a clefable with a toxic orb gets a lucky critical with facade and ruins everything (YES AQUA I AM IN FACT LOOKING AT YOU RIGHT NOW).

I wish I could but again Wi-Fi and EV training...I hate you EV training.  Not to mention my Feraligatr's only like above 30 or so last I checked.

Well level's not a problem at least, 'cause we can always just autolevel to 100 if we're playing online. Though yeah if your guys aren't EV'd things would be ridiculously unfair. Won't really prove much about how awesome gyarados is.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on September 12, 2009, 08:19:18 AM
Yeah it's the very reason I stay away from battling my friend's rabid Eeveelutions on EV steroids.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on September 12, 2009, 08:20:12 AM
Yeah, but what would that prove?

Absolutely nothing.  It'd be funny!  XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on September 12, 2009, 08:21:03 AM
Absolutely nothing.  It'd be funny!  XD
Thanks for the vote of confidence. -u-'
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on September 12, 2009, 08:22:07 AM
Thanks for the vote of confidence. -u-'

LoL, I never said you couldn't win.  I just think that settling arguments via Pokemon battles or Dueling is fun & funny!  XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on September 12, 2009, 08:24:38 AM
LoL, I never said you couldn't win.  I just think that settling arguments via Pokemon battles or Dueling is fun & funny!  XD
Yeah I guess...I still hate you EV training, my motto in pokemon is to win with sheer guts and attacks no buffs, de buffs, Counter, and Mirror Coat and to never give the opponet a momment of mercy.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on September 12, 2009, 08:32:16 AM
LoL, I never said you couldn't win.  I just think that settling arguments via Pokemon battles or Dueling is fun & funny!  XD

brb finding green bird pokemon and naming it turkina.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on September 12, 2009, 08:33:41 AM
Green bird pokemon?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Night on September 12, 2009, 08:39:12 AM
Natu's the only one I can think of
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on September 12, 2009, 08:40:08 AM
Shiny swellow could work. Not really a nice shade of green though.

Don't really like any of the other options unfortunately. Ah, life's tough, life's tough.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: AquaTeamV3 on September 12, 2009, 04:57:53 PM
Y'know what it's like, you're about to kill some dude's whole team, suddenly a clefable with a toxic orb gets a lucky critical with facade and ruins everything (YES AQUA I AM IN FACT LOOKING AT YOU RIGHT NOW).

8)

Yeah I guess...I still hate you EV training, my motto in pokemon is to win with sheer guts and attacks no buffs, de buffs, Counter, and Mirror Coat and to never give the opponet a momment of mercy.

I kind of miss the simplicity of the original G/S/C where you could pick up a poke and start training it from the get-gp.  Now you've got to spend hours hatching eggs until the one with the right nature shows up.  Made even more tedious when said poke has 2 natures, which pretty much doubles your waiting time.  EV training itself isn't a long process; stock up on vitamins for the first 100 points, then battle to get the rest.  Those Power items help a ton as well.

Also, as far as the Gyarados/Feraligatr debate goes, I think you should just use whichever poke you want.  Even if Gyarados is statistically better, you can still find ways to make Feraligatr do awesome stuff as well.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Waifu on September 12, 2009, 05:13:37 PM
What about moves like Wrap in R/B/Y that actually cripples a Pokemon for awhile in battle but G/S/C, it doesn't appear to do anything other than a status ailment. Can someone tell me about the Wrap move in this game and the previous one and what effects it has?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on September 12, 2009, 05:22:07 PM
Wrap, besides continuing damage, also prevents switch/escape.  That's the way it's been since 3rd gen, that's the way it'll stay.

And I must thank Kyouya Garyuu for bringing this to my attention:
Quote
The Dragon Lair's elder gives you a Lv.15 Extremespeed Dratini if you answer his quiz questions correctly.
And upon checking Serebii, it's also an Egg Move.

YES!!! 8)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on September 12, 2009, 11:04:21 PM
(http://img1.gelbooru.com//images/459/732e5697f365021933faa7b8e19102f8460b0f57.jpg?584640)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on September 12, 2009, 11:27:29 PM
(http://img1.gelbooru.com//images/459/732e5697f365021933faa7b8e19102f8460b0f57.jpg?584640)

Oh, I see where yer goin' with this..  8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 13, 2009, 01:18:58 AM
Just gonna leave this here.

Quote from: Serebii.net
21:44; It seems we have found that Giovanni is utilised within an event that features Celebi. In this event, you meet Giovanni after he hears Team Rocket's message from Goldenrod's Radio Tower. He remarks that you remind him of Red and challenges you to a battle. Once you defeat him, he remarks that his three years were wasted. However, according to the text, you get sent back in time three years for the duration of the event. We'll bring more details when they come
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on September 13, 2009, 01:36:50 AM
Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Soundtrack (Ripped and encoded by me)
Zip Archive (http://www.rockmanpm.com/down/click.php?id=385) | Folder (http://www.rockmanpm.com/down/click.php?id=386)

Please click any of the links again. Every track is renamed now~ :cookie: </psp>
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on September 13, 2009, 01:39:02 AM
Thanks man, I'm re-downloading the tracks now~
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Night on September 13, 2009, 01:58:21 AM
Too bad I can't download something so big.

With my connection, it would take a day to finish.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on September 13, 2009, 02:27:49 AM
If you have 2sf plugin for your winamp, I have this for you (2.5 MB or smaller):

http://lol.rockmanpm.com/2SF/

I ripped and organized it myself. I'm still working on the 2SF some more tho. It has lots of duplicate tracks, I tried submitting it to the 2SF community, but they were a little nit-picky about that. >v< </wii>
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 13, 2009, 03:54:04 AM
[spoiler=Giovanni Event & Text]
Quote from: Serebii.net
If you take the Celebi received to the Ilex Forest Shrine, Kotone/Hibiki will appear and start talking to you. Before long, Celebi starts to glow and sends you back in time.

(http://i28.tinypic.com/33ynadv.jpg)(http://i31.tinypic.com/28ugx0p.jpg)

You arrive in Route 22 where Silver is talking to Giovanni. Giovanni heads towards Johto while Silver runs away.

(http://i30.tinypic.com/11mal4z.jpg)(http://i26.tinypic.com/29ery3a.jpg)

Celebi then takes you forward in time into a cave where Giovanni is listening to the Radio Tower Broadcast of earlier and he challenges you.

(http://i26.tinypic.com/11r3sdg.jpg)(http://i26.tinypic.com/2wh1jc1.jpg)

He has Nidoking Lv. 42, Honchkrow Lv. 43, Nidoqueen Lv. 46 & Kangaskhan Lv. 40

Defeat him, and you get sent back to Ilex Forest and the event ends

(http://i28.tinypic.com/6hrdxk.jpg)(http://i29.tinypic.com/1zxv6sh.png)

Quote from: Serebii.net
"I do not know what you've come here to do, but this is no place for children like you to be"
"Your appearence resembles that of a young kid that stood in my way 3 years ago... You have the same kind of look in your eyes..."
Are you going to stand in the way of me going to Goldenrod city to answer the call of my comrades!?"

"...... This is Goldenrod radio tower, goldenrod radio tower calling.
at last all our hard work and efforts these 3 years have payed off and i announce the revival of team rocket! Lord Giovanni! Can you hear us? We've finally done it! ......."


"My former comrades need me, I won't let the mistake of 3 years ago happen again! Team Rocket will be reborn and the world will become mine!"

(i'm guessing battle goes here)

"Wh-why...!? Are you saying that these 3 years have just been a waste of time? To think that I have once again been beaten by a mere kid! Team Rocket's great dream is becoming an illusion and fading away..."


"Hey! I wonder where Lord Giovanni went... I wonder if he's listening to this broadcast somewhere...."

Giovanni "The fact that as long as you do not understand your own power you're still a child... Don't forget that..."

Hibiki: Hey! It's the evil-looking dude you were fighting with a while ago!
Hibiki: 3 years ago...? Kogane City...?
Hibiki:Could this be the guy they were calling on the radio?! Their leader Giovanni!?
Hey, listen, the radio broadcast's all weird! The frequency team rocket were using is supposed to be closed so why!

Hibiki:They keep calling, even though their leader won't come any more... they're stubborn
and after this (playername?) is going to take them down

Hibiki: Huh? but (player name?) is here... so who is going to defeat the rockets at radio tower!?

Again? I've had enough! please return us to our original time!

the hurt Celebi traveled across time! it traveled back to the time before this mysterious adventure started..

There's a radio (it says naranai radio but i don't know what to translata naranai into)
The switch doesn't work
Is it something giovanni left behind?
Celebi...! if we don't do something we won't be able to return to our own time!
Hibiki used the <genki no katamari> on celebi

please return us to our original time this time!
---
If Kotone is there, she says pretty much the same thing, so I didn't bother translating her lines too
[/spoiler]
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on September 13, 2009, 04:26:34 AM
There's also this:

[spoiler]
Quote
It seems that with the help of Celebi's timetraveling abilities you have come to the past...!

"Number one... You said you were going to be the strongest in the world! Are you just going to quit!? What are you going to do from now on!?"
"What do you mean strong! Even though you were so many, you all lost to ONE kid!!"
"I don't understand! I don't get what you're saying at all dad!"
"I Don't even want to know! I don't want to become like you! I won't ever be so weak as to rely on others to become strong! I'll become strong! I'll become strong all by myself!"
"All by myself..."

"What do you want, don't just go around and stare at people!"

"If you cannot accept your loss then you cannot move forward... In order to create an even stronger organization, I shall now be alone"
"By gathering a large amount of people, you gain great power, that is what an organization is... That is the power of an orginazation!"
"I've failed my underlings...!
One day I will make sure to revive Team Rocket!!"
"There will come a time when you'll understand..."

Hibiki: where is this?
Hibiki: Ilex forest disappeared? No... It seems like it, but in reality, we are the ones that have been taken to a differnet place?
It's strange! When you turn on the pokegear you hear the date of 3 years ago!
Could it be... That pokemon, Celebi? yeah, it must be Celebi! My gramps told me that Celebi has the mysterious ability to travel through time! We must've been taken to the past by Celebi!

There's someone over there, let's go see!

Hibiki: What's up with him! But their conversation... what was it about I wonder?
Team Rocket's revival? If I recall correctly, Team Rocket were defeated by a kid in Kanto 3 years ago... so this must really be 3 years ago!
Hibiki: Ah! It's the same as before, it's Celebi's timetravel!!

Silver being Giovani's son is now 100% canon.
[/spoiler]

Btw, does anyone have an event Arceus that they could share? >.>
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on September 13, 2009, 05:29:17 AM
So now everyone looking at this right now are pretty pissed with thier current state of thier fanfic involving Giovanni and Silver, trust me on this one.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Night on September 13, 2009, 06:15:28 AM
If you have 2sf plugin for your winamp, I have this for you (2.5 MB or smaller):

http://lol.rockmanpm.com/2SF/

I ripped and organized it myself. I'm still working on the 2SF some more tho. It has lots of duplicate tracks, I tried submitting it to the 2SF community, but they were a little nit-picky about that. >v< </wii>

Thanks. My connection just goes in and out sometimes.

It's working again and should be done in about half an hour.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: HokutoNoBen on September 13, 2009, 07:45:36 AM
[spoiler]
Silver being Giovani's son is now 100% canon.
[/spoiler]

Well, this much shouldn't be a surprise. It was hinted in the last generation of games, and the PokeSpecial Manga has been using this plot point for itself for a minute. I doubt that Tajiri and Game Freak would have allowed them to get that far with such a "creative liberty", if they had no intentions of using it themselves.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on September 13, 2009, 11:27:28 AM
Please click any of the links again. Every track is renamed now~ :cookie: </psp>
Seriously, a huge thank you, Vixy. :cookie:

And yeah, after all that happened in the FRLG arc in the Pokemon Special manga...
Still nice to see it 100% canon now.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rin on September 13, 2009, 11:44:41 AM
Silver is Giovanni's son? [tornado fang]ing AWESOME! +Celebi Time Travel? Jesus Christ, this is awesome.

Also, me and my friend want to know if it's true that you can get a skateboard, like it was supposed to be in the original games(before they scrapped the idea).
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Acid on September 13, 2009, 02:39:58 PM
What would the skateboard be good for? Faster travelling?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rin on September 13, 2009, 05:27:03 PM
What would the skateboard be good for? Faster travelling?
Ya, it was supposed to be instead of the bike.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on September 13, 2009, 05:52:31 PM
I got a female Eevee (again, last time was in Crystal (http://www.justin.tv/clip/8b6352f7c9530afe)). This time I named her 'Nyan♥'. 0v0
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: shinobigoomba on September 13, 2009, 07:31:40 PM
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/5144/1252632242069.png

XD at ghastly/haunter/gengar's 2nd frame sprite
"problem trainer?"
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on September 13, 2009, 08:51:56 PM
Seriously, a huge thank you, Vixy. :cookie:

Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Soundtrack (Ripped and encoded by me)
Zip Archive (http://www.rockmanpm.com/down/click.php?id=385) | Folder (http://www.rockmanpm.com/down/click.php?id=386)

One last update, I organized it and remove all the identical / duplicate songs. This should be good for you, Wily II. ^^
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Night on September 13, 2009, 08:53:46 PM
Hear that? That's the sound of everyone sighing while they download it again!  8D

But seriously, thanks vix...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on September 13, 2009, 09:11:38 PM
Thanks my Cookie-Nyan, I love you ! *kiss*  :3
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Acid on September 14, 2009, 03:00:57 AM
Ya, it was supposed to be instead of the bike.

Would have been cooler.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on September 14, 2009, 03:11:56 AM
Hear that? That's the sound of everyone sighing while they download it again!  8D

But seriously, thanks vix...
You're hearing things! 8D

One last update, I organized it and remove all the identical / duplicate songs. This should be good for you, Wily II. ^^
*glomps and hugs very tightly* :cookie: :cookie: :cookie:
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on September 14, 2009, 03:24:36 AM
One last update, I organized it and remove all the identical / duplicate songs. This should be good for you, Wily II. ^^
Awesome!  I hear the tunes and I know that no Gym Reader will stand in my way! 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Keno on September 14, 2009, 03:36:41 AM
Wait I thought RED was GIOVANNI's kid
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on September 14, 2009, 03:55:47 AM
The Rocket Scientist on Four Island in FireRed/LeafGreen said that Giovanni's son had red hair.
Red, despite his name, does not have red hair.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Waifu on September 14, 2009, 04:23:15 AM
Silver is Giovanni's son? [tornado fang]ing AWESOME! +Celebi Time Travel? Jesus Christ, this is awesome.

Also, me and my friend want to know if it's true that you can get a skateboard, like it was supposed to be in the original games(before they scrapped the idea).

What is this?  o-O

Wait I thought RED was GIOVANNI's kid

No, he wasn't.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: SUIKA on September 14, 2009, 01:54:50 PM
That thing about Silver and Giovanni..

  Yeah, what was up with the people that didn't believe that? Reasoning being "It can't be Silver, there's plenty of other characters in Pokemon with red hair". Including Lance, and Flannery. Flannery!? The entire island in which the NPC dialogue took place was amidst lookalikes of the Rocket admins from GSC, also, the inclusion of the Sevii islands entirely was one big tribute ordeal to GSC. And, Silver hates Team Rocket. Everything was so damn obvious, but a less educated portion of the fans were dumb enough to think that GameFreak would include a subplot of Final Fantasy proportion involving Flannery as Giovanni's secret lovechild or something.

  Ugh.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on September 14, 2009, 02:41:05 PM
I translated the answers to get this Pokemon:

しんそくミニリュウ (shinsoku miniryuu) = Extremespeed Dratini

o is a good answer. ^^

Question 1: What are Pokemon to you?
x なかま (Pal)
x てした (Underling)
o ともだち (Friend)

Question 2: What helps you win battles?
x さくせん (Strategy)
o いくせい (Raising)
x インチキ (Cheating)

Question 3: What kind of trainer do you wish to battle?
x よわいひと (Weak person)
x つよいひと (Tough person)
o だれとでも (Anybody)

Question 4: What is most important for raising Pokemon?
o おいじょう (Love)
x ぼうりょく (Violence)
x ちしき (Knowledge)

Question 5: Strong Pokemon. Weak Pokemon. Which is more important?
x つよいほう (Strong)
o どっちも (Both)
x よわいほう (Weak)

Get the Rising Badge, then go outside the Dragon's Den to get the TM, then go inside the Dragon's Den again. The Dratini is yours. ^^
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Keno on September 15, 2009, 12:08:53 AM
The Rocket Scientist on Four Island in FireRed/LeafGreen said that Giovanni's son had red hair.
Red, despite his name, does not have red hair.
People can have multiple children.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on September 15, 2009, 11:06:38 AM
Just like Ash is Professor Oak's son?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 15, 2009, 03:23:37 PM
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/hgss/

Site update.

Finally some gym leader artwork.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Harruhy on September 15, 2009, 03:50:50 PM
Man, Whitney's socks... >_>
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on September 15, 2009, 05:25:31 PM
... Suits her. >0<
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Harruhy on September 15, 2009, 05:55:24 PM
Yeah, they're pretty fantastic. >.>
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Waifu on September 16, 2009, 02:49:13 AM
I like the socks and Bugsy is horribly skinny.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Harruhy on September 16, 2009, 03:36:05 AM
Doesn't take strength to catch bugs.

Unless it's a bug-type Pokémon.


...Oh wait.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: AquaTeamV3 on September 16, 2009, 04:45:17 AM
I like the fact that the fight with Red takes place in the Snow now.  I should bring my Ice team up there for the fun of it.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Harruhy on September 16, 2009, 04:59:39 AM
Quote
...

*old GSC battle Pokéball pops up*
*Red tilts his hat*

(http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/5576/1zbx755.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on September 16, 2009, 08:43:30 AM
(http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/5576/1zbx755.jpg)
Couldn't agree with you more.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on October 28, 2009, 02:19:02 PM
*Uses Max Revive on thread*
Wifi events have been announced.

For those that have HGSS, from November 11th to November 23rd, Mew will be downloadable via Mystery Gift over the Nintendo WiFi connection.
It will be lvl5, and have the Premier Ribbon.
However, no news on whether this Mew will have any special effect in-game.

ALSO!
From November 27th to January 11th, the Engima Stone will be downloadable via Mystery Gift over the WiFi as well.
If you take this stone to the Pewter City Museum, it will activate the Soul Dew and allow Latios to appear in HG, or Latias in SS.

Source: Serebii.net (http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on October 28, 2009, 02:27:02 PM
For those that have HGSS, from November 11th to November 23rd, Mew will be downloadable via Mystery Gift over the Nintendo WiFi connection.
It will be lvl5, and have the Premier Ribbon.
However, no news on whether this Mew will have any special effect in-game.

 *o*
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on October 30, 2009, 02:42:22 AM
Slight update on Mew.
Lvl5, Cherish Ball, Premier/e Ribbon, only knows Pound.

Source: Pokebeach.com (http://pokebeach.com/2009/10/pokemon-rumble-release-date)

V And this too:
One more interesting tidbit.
HGSS has revealed the Forme names for Cherrim.
The normal form of Cherrim all closed up is called Negative Forme, while the form of Cherrim under the effect of Sunny Day is called Positive Forme.

Source: Serebii.net (http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml).
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Keno on October 31, 2009, 04:29:34 AM
My friend got in on my M3 he's currently borrowing because my DS is broken because Nintendo make hardware quite like they used to, so I got to see like the opening & hear some music.

What's with the chick's retarded hat? It's like a bad trip of Ruby's stupid hat.

The battle music sucks. It's all happy go lucky like Diamond & Pearl, which I'm a little sick of.

Anybody know where we could find a translation of the first menu? There's a bunch of choices, & one just makes nice music & send us back to the top menu.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Night on October 31, 2009, 05:02:17 AM
All trainer battle theme have been "happy go lucky"...and D&P's, HGSS's Battle theme are great!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rin on October 31, 2009, 07:18:30 PM
My friend got in on my M3 he's currently borrowing because my DS is broken because Nintendo make hardware quite like they used to, so I got to see like the opening & hear some music.

What's with the chick's retarded hat? It's like a bad trip of Ruby's stupid hat.

I like the hat. D :

Quote
The battle music sucks. It's all happy go lucky like Diamond & Pearl, which I'm a little sick of.
OH SURE. NINTENDO SHOULD TOTALLY PUT IN SOME GRIMDARK MUSIC. SOME BLACK METAL MAYBE?

Meh, it's not that bad. Actually, better than D&P. Still, most of the other battle themes are awesome.
/v/ are [Top Spin]s for complaining about the music.

There should be FEW translations on GBATemp forum, in the NDS Hacking & Translation section.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Keno on October 31, 2009, 07:42:33 PM
I like the hat. D :
Why

OH SURE. NINTENDO SHOULD TOTALLY PUT IN SOME GRIMDARK MUSIC. SOME BLACK METAL MAYBE?
It's not that, I just don't like the instruments. What's wrong with real music at this point anyway? How about a guitar & bass, with some nice drums, maybe?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rin on October 31, 2009, 08:47:47 PM
Why
It's not that, I just don't like the instruments. What's wrong with real music at this point anyway? How about a guitar & bass, with some nice drums, maybe?
Why? Because it looks awesome. I can't really say it... it just looks good on her.

Well, I got used to those instruments. They suit Pokemon. When I think "Pokemon music", I think of this kind of music.
Tough, yeah. It wouldn't be bad if they used some MORE real instruments.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on October 31, 2009, 10:26:56 PM
Obvious solution to music problem: Mute DS > Load up mp3 player of choice with favorite music > ??? > PROFIT!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on October 31, 2009, 11:18:06 PM
Solution: GB Player D:
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on October 31, 2009, 11:40:33 PM
Yus~ Get all 16 badges, talk to Mr. Game Freak in Celadon City, and you will get GB Player! <3
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Blackhook on October 31, 2009, 11:43:24 PM
Yus~ Get all 16 badges, talk to Mr. Game Freak in Celadon City, and you will get GB Player! <3
....Yay?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on October 31, 2009, 11:46:14 PM
GB Player

[spoiler][youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWwJ8eoXYCk[/youtube][/spoiler]
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on November 01, 2009, 01:30:07 AM
Solution: GB Player D:
Eh, I can't say it's horribly accurate...sure, I'll say 90%, but some songs suffered. But point, no less.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Keno on November 03, 2009, 11:00:43 AM
Well, I got used to those instruments. They suit Pokemon. When I think "Pokemon music", I think of this kind of music.
Tough, yeah. It wouldn't be bad if they used some MORE real instruments.
How? When? All the real Pokémon games had bleeps & boops, & then came gen 3 with its obnoxiously large amount of 7 games, all with blegh music IMO. I think gen 4's a step in the right direction in the music department. Now only if they could start using beautiful hand-drawn sprites...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: AquaTeamV3 on November 03, 2009, 03:05:29 PM
All the real Pokémon games had bleeps & boops, & then came gen 3 with its obnoxiously large amount of 7 games, all with blegh music IMO. I think gen 4's a step in the right direction in the music department. Now only if they could start using beautiful hand-drawn sprites...

Gen 3's music was downright horrible.  There may have been 1 or 2 decent songs, but as a whole it's forgettable.  DPPt has actually had some pretty memorable tunes.

The GB player looks pretty interesting, and I'm glad I'll get to hear some of the newer songs in 8-bit as well.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on November 03, 2009, 04:58:25 PM
Gen 3's music was downright horrible.  There may have been 1 or 2 decent songs, but as a whole it's forgettable.
Magma/Aqua Base has one of the most amazing bass lines in Pokemon. That's pretty much it though.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rin on November 03, 2009, 05:42:23 PM
I liked the battle themes from Gen 3. Especially the Team Magma battle theme.

Also, yeah. Diamond, Pearl & Platinum has some very sweet music.

Also, "VS Deoxys" from FireRed/LeafGreen is [tornado fang]ing win.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Thanatos-Zero on November 03, 2009, 08:02:55 PM
GB Player

[spoiler][youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWwJ8eoXYCk[/youtube][/spoiler]

Give me the old EV system (which is actually a system of Status Experience) of the GB and GBC Generations back!  ;^; (http://forum.rockmanpm.com/index.php?topic=1613.625;msg=119823)
Why!? Why the new and retarded sytem with the max of 510 Effort Values? Make it to 1530 EV and I will be back to play Pokemon, the new generations.
I know I talked back about these things, but I really want it back, for goddamn long and glorious battles of the best and perfect pokemon!  O:<

Who actually came to that retarded idea, to exclude the possibility to maximaze all of your pokemons stats? I say don´t fix something what doesn´t need to be fixed.

Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on November 03, 2009, 11:28:29 PM
Just play an MMO if all you want to do is grind things. Pokemon not all being identical is a good thing.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on November 03, 2009, 11:41:52 PM
Unless you're Luvdisc.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on November 03, 2009, 11:52:22 PM
Luvdisc gets no love.


The irony is staggering, yes.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: AquaTeamV3 on November 04, 2009, 01:12:15 AM
Give me the old EV system (which is actually a system of Status Experience) of the GB and GBC Generations back!  ;^; (http://forum.rockmanpm.com/index.php?topic=1613.625;msg=119823)
Why!? Why the new and retarded sytem with the max of 510 Effort Values? Make it to 1530 EV and I will be back to play Pokemon, the new generations.
I know I talked back about these things, but I really want it back, for goddamn long and glorious battles of the best and perfect pokemon!  O:<

Who actually came to that retarded idea, to exclude the possibility to maximaze all of your pokemons stats? I say don´t fix something what doesn´t need to be fixed.

The fact that you can't max all of the stats actually allows players to be diverse and pick an EV spread that suits them.  Honestly, competitive Pokemon probably wouldn't be as interesting if everyone ran around with the exact same stats.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Keno on November 04, 2009, 07:17:54 AM
Give me the old EV system (which is actually a system of Status Experience) of the GB and GBC Generations back!  ;^; (http://forum.rockmanpm.com/index.php?topic=1613.625;msg=119823)
Why!? Why the new and retarded sytem with the max of 510 Effort Values? Make it to 1530 EV and I will be back to play Pokemon, the new generations.
I know I talked back about these things, but I really want it back, for goddamn long and glorious battles of the best and perfect pokemon!  O:<

Who actually came to that retarded idea, to exclude the possibility to maximaze all of your pokemons stats? I say don´t fix something what doesn´t need to be fixed.


What the [tornado fang] is an Effort Value?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on November 05, 2009, 01:00:11 AM
EV = Effort Value = the reason trained Pokemon of the same level and species are generally stronger than wild ones.

Get equipped with Serebii.net.

The fact that you can't max all of the stats actually allows players to be diverse and pick an EV spread that suits them.  Honestly, competitive Pokemon probably wouldn't be as interesting if everyone ran around with the exact same stats.
Which means something to players who research stacks of numbers to determine what is and isn't an excessive investment so that they can punch appropriate numbers into Smogon.  For the rest of us, who happen to be playing the actual games, 252/252 is not diverse.  The instances in which you WOULD want something different only make it more difficult to experiment.  If a move set change calls for a different focus on your stats, then barring a ridiculously large berry stock you have to raise a whole new Pokemon from scratch (and that's assuming your Pokemon is not Level 100 with intent to raise EVs over 100 in a single stat, which is unlikely).

Natures and IVs can accomplish any diversity goals by themselves.  The current EV system blows for one reason above all others: because it renders Pokemon actually used in-game worthless.  In the GB/C days, the Pokemon you played with were your best ones.  And that's the way it should be.

To add to that the current EV system is overly strict, allowing maxing of only 2 stats.  It severely damages the usefulness of mixed attackers.  Even a 765 EV limit would have at least allowed mixed attacks without hindering your damage dealt.  I don't think the phrase "SkarmBliss" would have ever been uttered if the GB/C stat experience system had been kept.

I also find the current system moronic in that your EVs from a given battle most often only go to a single stat.  The previous system gained all stats relative to the strengths of your opponent (literally their own base stats); it made a lot more sense.

Give me the old EV system (which is actually a system of Status Experience) of the GB and GBC Generations back!  ;^; (http://forum.rockmanpm.com/index.php?topic=1613.625;msg=119823)
Why!? Why the new and retarded sytem with the max of 510 Effort Values? Make it to 1530 EV and I will be back to play Pokemon, the new generations.
I know I talked back about these things, but I really want it back, for goddamn long and glorious battles of the best and perfect pokemon!  O:<

Who actually came to that retarded idea, to exclude the possibility to maximaze all of your pokemons stats? I say don´t fix something what doesn´t need to be fixed.
I'm very much agreed personally, but I doubt that will happen without another generational cutoff.  Otherwise cross-game battles place the older games at a severe disadvantage.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on November 05, 2009, 02:44:29 AM
EVs may have some problems, but getting rid of them entirely isn't the way to fix things. :/


(Also pokemon you used during the game would still be worthless because they'd have bad IVs/natures/moves and nothing would be able to fix that.)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on November 05, 2009, 03:14:24 AM
Nobody suggested "getting rid of them entirely", we are suggesting either bringing back stat experience which it replaced, or eliminating (or at least raising) the 510 cap.

(Also pokemon you used during the game would still be worthless because they'd have bad IVs/natures/moves and nothing would be able to fix that.)
That is the most ridiculous load of Mamoswine crap I have ever read.

If you think moves cannot be fixed you are not paying attention, given the wealth of tutors and deleters available in current games.  Moves can always be overwritten, at any level, any time.  

IVs and Natures are not applicable; they are decided at time of capture and never change.  You can compare, as soon as they're caught, to see if you have gotten a satisfactory result, and if you haven't there is no reason to raise it throughout the game.  There is no reason to level-up to check Natures and the only reason to level-up to check IVs is if you're intending to use Hidden Power or you're just a stickler about having the max, thus requiring the exact values.  If you're only after something reasonably good, you can check at a low level.  Even your Level 5 starter in the R/B/Y IV system (which is half the range of current games) shows some difference in final stats from IVs.  IV-checking was being done long before the GBA generation hit, and was not in any way "hardcore tournament player" exclusive.  Even regular gaming magazines noted the difference in freshly captured same-level Pokemon and recommended comparing in order to get the best.  That was back when Stadium was new.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Keno on November 05, 2009, 03:41:42 AM
Is that how they don't wind up the same with Rare Candies? [tornado fang] that. Grinding blows. I'd rather just use Rare Candies after the Elite Four.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on November 05, 2009, 03:45:06 AM
Nobody suggested "getting rid of them entirely", we are suggesting either bringing back stat experience which it replaced, or eliminating (or at least raising) the 510 cap.

Letting you max out EVs for all stats, getting rid of them entirely, what's the difference? With a raised cap, every single competetive pokemon will have maxed EVs in all stats. Things would be the same as if they didn't exist at all. Except well I guess you'd have to add 63 to all their stats. It'd be like if all pokemon had all their IVs fixed at 31. I mean, yeah, IVs would still exist, but they may as well not. They wouldn't be doing anything.

(Incidentally, IVs being fixed at 31 would be totally awesome. Or 0. 0 works too.

Whatever, I don't care, just get rid of IVs. [tornado fang] IVs.)

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If you think moves cannot be fixed you are not paying attention, given the wealth of tutors and deleters available in current games.  Moves can always be overwritten, at any level, any time.

So. About those egg moves.

Yeah.

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IVs and Natures are not applicable; they are decided at time of capture and never change.  You can compare, as soon as they're caught, to see if you have gotten a satisfactory result, and if you haven't there is no reason to raise it throughout the game.  There is no reason to level-up to check Natures and the only reason to level-up to check IVs is if you're intending to use Hidden Power or you're just a stickler about having the max, thus requiring the exact values.  If you're only after something reasonably good, you can check at a low level.  Even your Level 5 starter in the R/B/Y IV system (which is half the range of current games) shows some difference in final stats from IVs.  IV-checking was being done long before the GBA generation hit, and was not in any way "hardcore tournament player" exclusive.  Even regular gaming magazines noted the difference in freshly captured same-level Pokemon and recommended comparing in order to get the best.  That was back when Stadium was new.

God, you'd be there all day just getting a starter. 3/25 to get the right nature, 11/32 to get attack above 20, same again for speed. And then you'd still get beaten by someone who bred to get a 31 in speed so he went first and killed you.

Is that how they don't wind up the same with Rare Candies? [tornado fang] that. Grinding blows. I'd rather just use Rare Candies after the Elite Four.

It's actually worse than that. You only get 127 bonus points to distribute among your attributes, so if you accidentally kill something that gives you EVs in the wrong stat, you permanently screw yourself. And the game doesn't [tornado fang]ing tell you ANYTHING about this.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on November 05, 2009, 04:34:14 AM
Welcome to metagame. Enjoy your pen-and-paper training.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Keno on November 05, 2009, 04:47:46 AM
Or just don't play multiplayer with douche bags that would bother even paying attention to that crap. They're the same types that catch & catch until they get just the right stat, but oh wait, that only happens every month because those types of people farm shinies. I don't hang out with people like that, so EVs are so far from my mind.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on November 05, 2009, 05:03:51 AM
Welcome to metagame. Enjoy your pen-and-paper training.

I use notepad because I am high tech.

Or just don't play multiplayer with douche bags that would bother even paying attention to that crap.

It's kind of hard to go back once you've started fiddling with EVs and [parasitic bomb]. At least for me. I dunno, I feel bad not going to the effort to make my pokemon awesome. It's stupid, yeah, and I know it's stupid, but I still can't help it. It's like hoarding items in RPGs or something.

And anyway, people who know about EVs tend to know more about other aspects of pokemon [parasitic bomb]. Helps avoid battles against pokemon with like 3 different water moves or whatever, 'cause those really aren't all that fun.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on November 05, 2009, 06:42:46 AM
I use notepad because I am high tech.

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/215/1511346207_4e23a506f9.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on November 05, 2009, 06:52:55 AM
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/215/1511346207_4e23a506f9.jpg)

Awesome.

Coincidentally, I've had some SPM music stuck in my head for days now. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Keno on November 05, 2009, 06:57:16 AM
It's kind of hard to go back once you've started fiddling with EVs and [parasitic bomb]. At least for me. I dunno, I feel bad not going to the effort to make my pokemon awesome. It's stupid, yeah, and I know it's stupid, but I still can't help it. It's like hoarding items in RPGs or something.

And anyway, people who know about EVs tend to know more about other aspects of pokemon [parasitic bomb]. Helps avoid battles against pokemon with like 3 different water moves or whatever, 'cause those really aren't all that fun.
I disagree. Moves are meant to be fiddled with, hence why they're shown to you. EVs are meant to add a "random" factor to make each individual Pokémon unique. They're to add realism, not to be abused. Besides, it would bother me a whole lot more to not love each of my Pokémon for who they are. I like naming them all, using what species I like, & growing attached to them all. I mean, hell, I still have my original team I used to beat the Elite Four the first time. Oh Poliwrath my friend Chris traded me, how well you served me.

But that gets me started on how shitty I think the lack of legacy in 3rd generation was. Why was it so hard to handle it that time around?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on November 05, 2009, 08:44:26 AM
I could argue that not bothering to EV train your pokemon shows that you obviously don't care that much about them, because you're not willing to put in the effort to make them the best they can be. But maybe I won't, because arguing over who cares more about their pokemon is silly.

And, well, regardless of what EVs were meant to do, what they do is increase stats, and that's what I'm going to use them for. Even if I could forget how they worked, I wouldn't, because I like knowing how the game operates. The more I know, the better I can play. Not playing at my best is performing a disservice to whoever I'm up against.


Somehow I doubt we're ever going to agree on this.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Keno on November 05, 2009, 09:27:18 PM
I could argue that not bothering to EV train your pokemon shows that you obviously don't care that much about them, because you're not willing to put in the effort to make them the best they can be. But maybe I won't, because arguing over who cares more about their pokemon is silly.
No [tornado fang]ing way. They'd much prefer to be given candy. I mean, it's their reward for all their hard work getting to Cinnibar/Elite Four. You sound like BLUE. You gotta love your Pokémon, man. It's not about who wins & who loses; it's about having a good time.

And, well, regardless of what EVs were meant to do, what they do is increase stats, and that's what I'm going to use them for. Even if I could forget how they worked, I wouldn't, because I like knowing how the game operates. The more I know, the better I can play. Not playing at my best is performing a disservice to whoever I'm up against.
So you grind against Zubats all day long? How is this fun? I mean, lots of people won't play X6 because of the tediousness of rescuing all the reploids, but at least even then the information is in front of you.

Somehow I doubt we're ever going to agree on this.
No, because you're a cheater that uses guides. Memorize all the EVs & manipulate them & we'll talk about legitimacy.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: TeaOfJay on November 05, 2009, 10:29:34 PM
Personally, I like the EV system since it at least gives non legendary pokes a chance at taking on the Legendaries without struggling like they should. Plus it adds a layer of complexity that the game normally wouldn't have before.

It's really fun to take out an all legendary with an EV trained team. The look on the other guy's face is priceless.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on November 06, 2009, 01:27:54 AM
No [tornado fang]ing way. They'd much prefer to be given candy. I mean, it's their reward for all their hard work getting to Cinnibar/Elite Four. You sound like BLUE. You gotta love your Pokémon, man. It's not about who wins & who loses; it's about having a good time.

Their happiness goes up when I give them vitamins!

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So you grind against Zubats all day long? How is this fun? I mean, lots of people won't play X6 because of the tediousness of rescuing all the reploids, but at least even then the information is in front of you.

It's cool, it only takes like an hour. It's quicker than grinding them up to a level they'll evolve at sometimes. I've got that whole hoarding items thing going on like I mentioned earlier, so I try to avoid using rare candies all that often.

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No, because you're a cheater that uses guides. Memorize all the EVs & manipulate them & we'll talk about legitimacy.

Bidoof's 1 HP. Geodude's 1 defence. Gastly's 1 special attack. Tentacool's 1 special defence. Starly's 1 speed. All available at very low levels, all in very great quantities. (1+4 for a power item)x2 for pokerus means 10 EVs per kill, so go in with max PPs, wait until I'm 15 PP down, and then remove the power item and hit one more guy, mission accomplished.
Attack's a little harder, but that just means I use a power bracer while training another stat. Or take advantage of doduo if it's swarming. Doesn't swarm too often though. Life's tough.

Memorising what EVs every pokemon gives would be pretty hard, but you don't really need to. Just enough of them.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: AquaTeamV3 on November 06, 2009, 01:44:03 AM
No [tornado fang]ing way. They'd much prefer to be given candy. I mean, it's their reward for all their hard work getting to Cinnibar/Elite Four. You sound like BLUE. You gotta love your Pokémon, man. It's not about who wins & who loses; it's about having a good time.

The move Return pretty much nullifies your argument.  I should also note that all of my pokes on my team are Ev trained and their happiness is maxed out.

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No, because you're a cheater that uses guides. Memorize all the EVs & manipulate them & we'll talk about legitimacy.
 

If it's cheating, then how do you explain the existence of the Effort Ribbon?  The Macho Brace and Power Items would also like a word with you.

Their happiness goes up when I give them vitamins!

Exactly!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Legendary on November 06, 2009, 01:44:36 AM
Vitamins+Battles used to gain EVs=Return maxing out=Your PokeMon loving you.

Which means the argument about level grinding to prove you love your PokeMon more is not only odd, considering it's just a game, but also a waste of time, as EV-training pretty much maxes the happiness out faster.

...again, though, why do you expect sprites from a Game Card to return your affection?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on November 06, 2009, 02:11:13 AM
We should all chip in to get Keno a copy of Love Plus so he doesn't need to seek love from pokemon.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Waifu on November 06, 2009, 02:20:05 AM
I hope none of you here turn out to be one of those Stop Having Fun Guys.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Legendary on November 06, 2009, 04:26:10 AM
Is it impossible to have fun by playing a game competitively? D=
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on November 06, 2009, 04:43:45 AM
Some people do have fun doing that kind of calculation and planning. Others just enjoy ripping through the game without any other factoring.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Keno on November 06, 2009, 08:48:35 AM
It's cool, it only takes like an hour. It's quicker than grinding them up to a level they'll evolve at sometimes.
Only an hour? Boy, your time must be pretty easily spent to play Pokémon for an hour straight & not even be doing anything interesting. As for grinding, being quicker than it is not a good measure of quickness. Grinding sucks too. Hence my love of Rare Candies.

Bidoof's 1 HP. Geodude's 1 defence. Gastly's 1 special attack. Tentacool's 1 special defence. Starly's 1 speed. All available at very low levels, all in very great quantities. (1+4 for a power item)x2 for pokerus means 10 EVs per kill, so go in with max PPs, wait until I'm 15 PP down, and then remove the power item and hit one more guy, mission accomplished.
Attack's a little harder, but that just means I use a power bracer while training another stat. Or take advantage of doduo if it's swarming. Doesn't swarm too often though. Life's tough.

Memorising what EVs every pokemon gives would be pretty hard, but you don't really need to. Just enough of them.
You remind me of those pinoys that ruin Ragnarok by knowing everything about everything.

The move Return pretty much nullifies your argument.  I should also note that all of my pokes on my team are Ev trained and their happiness is maxed out.
Because in-game happiness is a poor indicator. It's always been a constant theme in Pokémon that too much fighting & no play makes Pokémon abhor their trainer, regardless of how you can get to happiness either way.

If it's cheating, then how do you explain the existence of the Effort Ribbon?  The Macho Brace and Power Items would also like a word with you.
Well, the ribbons are there for women in the first place, so I have no idea what any of them are.

...again, though, why do you expect sprites from a Game Card to return your affection?
We should all chip in to get Keno a copy of Love Plus so he doesn't need to seek love from pokemon.
Of course they don't love me back, but that doesn't mean I don't love my beloved Char. Not everyone that has a Tamagotchi thinks it's in love with them.

Some people do have fun doing that kind of calculation and planning. Others just enjoy ripping through the game without any other factoring.
I like calculation & planning, don't get me wrong. I just do my calculation with numbers I can see & my planning with Pokémon & move set choices.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: TeaOfJay on November 06, 2009, 10:30:19 AM
Only an hour? Boy, your time must be pretty easily spent to play Pokémon for an hour straight & not even be doing anything interesting. As for grinding, being quicker than it is not a good measure of quickness. Grinding sucks too. Hence my love of Rare Candies.

While I can agree that grinding can get tedious, you have to remember that just flat out using rare candies on a Pokemon is actually worse than grinding for a particular stat. Pokemon is the sort of game that you get back the effort that you put in to it. I'd rather spend that hour slaying Zubats or whatever to bring my Pokemon to the top of its game then let it suffer stat wise because it's faster.

You remind me of those pinoys that ruin Ragnarok by knowing everything about everything.
That's not knowing everything, nor does it ruin Pokemon for people who like to play casually. All he showed was that it's easy to find a Pokemon that raises EVs for a certain stat early on in the game.

Because in-game happiness is a poor indicator. It's always been a constant theme in Pokémon that too much fighting & no play makes Pokémon abhor their trainer, regardless of how you can get to happiness either way.

Actually, it's more along the lines of battling constantly without healing and constantly being knocked out in battle that makes a Pokemon hate their trainers. Even magical monsters need rest. So using items on it when it's needed (or not needed) makes for a happier Pokemon.

Well, the ribbons are there for women in the first place, so I have no idea what any of them are.

Uh, I think he means the prize ribbons and not necessarily the ribbons that are worn in hair. Prize ribbons are unisex, and don't necessarily mean that they're for women.

Of course they don't love me back, but that doesn't mean I don't love my beloved Char. Not everyone that has a Tamagotchi thinks it's in love with them.

I doubt anyone here thinks a bunch of pixels like them. They're just arguing that the in-game happiness measurement has very low standards.

I like calculation & planning, don't get me wrong. I just do my calculation with numbers I can see & my planning with Pokémon & move set choices.

I'll admit that the numbers behind Pokemon EVs and IVs are very well hidden, but that's what makes Pokemon so interesting. On the surface it's the simplest game ever. But when you dig deep enough and see how the numbers work then Pokemon becomes the most complex thing ever. It's working those behind-the-scenes numbers is what makes Pokemon a competitive game.

Also, if you really wanted to know how EVs and IVs work, it's not hard to just Google it. I'm sure there's a few hundred websites that detail just how these numbers work and how you can manipulate them.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on November 06, 2009, 02:30:11 PM
Only an hour? Boy, your time must be pretty easily spent to play Pokémon for an hour straight & not even be doing anything interesting. As for grinding, being quicker than it is not a good measure of quickness. Grinding sucks too. Hence my love of Rare Candies.
You remind me of those pinoys that ruin Ragnarok by knowing everything about everything.

Understanding what's going on doesn't ruin the game, it makes it better. If I wanted a game where I couldn't even tell why the winner came first I'd just play Mario Party or something.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Keno on November 06, 2009, 06:58:21 PM
While I can agree that grinding can get tedious, you have to remember that just flat out using rare candies on a Pokemon is actually worse than grinding for a particular stat. Pokemon is the sort of game that you get back the effort that you put in to it. I'd rather spend that hour slaying Zubats or whatever to bring my Pokemon to the top of its game then let it suffer stat wise because it's faster.
I thought that Rare Candies worked the same as leveling in 1st gen.

Uh, I think he means the prize ribbons and not necessarily the ribbons that are worn in hair. Prize ribbons are unisex, and don't necessarily mean that they're for women.
I know. It's a gameplay aspect added for people that wanted to do something other than battle. Women.

Also, if you really wanted to know how EVs and IVs work, it's not hard to just Google it. I'm sure there's a few hundred websites that detail just how these numbers work and how you can manipulate them.
I know how they work, just not specifically.

Understanding what's going on doesn't ruin the game, it makes it better. If I wanted a game where I couldn't even tell why the winner came first I'd just play Mario Party or something.
Mario Party isn't like everybody makes it seem. You can totally manipulate the dice rolls, & a lot of planning & point of no returns come into play.

I still prefer pre-EVs. I'm playing Crystal right now. How do they work in that?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on November 06, 2009, 09:05:59 PM
So. About those egg moves.

Yeah.
Egg moves are not a prerequisite on every Pokemon.  Sometimes they are useful and sometimes they are not.  Some Pokemon have none at all.

And besides, breeding is usually available relatively early in the game.  It's not like you have to beat the Elite Four before you can get an egg.

I'm not saying your entire Elite Four team should be tournament material.  I'm saying that *A* Pokemon you played the game with should be viable.

What about your starter?  If you intend to use a starter evolution for multiplayer, you basically have to breed a new one, even if you don't intend to use a single egg move.  What is the point of that?  If you're crazy enough to breed for IVs, fine.  Some people will just find something remotely beneficial with a proper Nature and leave it at that, which is what you pretty much have to do if you intend to battle with a non-breedable Pokemon anyway.

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It's actually worse than that. You only get 127 bonus points to distribute among your attributes, so if you accidentally kill something that gives you EVs in the wrong stat, you permanently screw yourself. And the game doesn't [tornado fang]ing tell you ANYTHING about this.
This is exactly my point.  You're pretty much guaranteed to get the wrong EVs in normal gameplay, therefore, Pokemon used in gameplay are worthless unless you berry the hell out of them.  It shouldn't be that way.  If you were negligent in IVs/Nature, fine, that's your own problem.  But EVs are nearly impossible to work around.

But that gets me started on how shitty I think the lack of legacy in 3rd generation was. Why was it so hard to handle it that time around?
Because of the change in how the "randomization" as you put it was handled.

In 1st and 2nd gen, EVs did not exist as they do currently, instead there was a stat-experience system that gained by the base stats of the Pokemon you defeated in battle.  All had their individual caps, of course, but there was no total cap, and you always gained SOMETHING in every stat from every battle.  With EVs, an individual stat caps at 255 but your total caps at only 510 (allowing you to max only two stats), and a Pokemon defeated will usually only give you EVs in a single stat; rarely 2 or 3, never more than that.

Also, the IV (Individual Value, this is randomization irrelevant of battle experience; or why two wild Pokemon of the same species and level may have slightly different stats) range was expanded.  1st and 2nd gen ranged from 0 to 15.  In 3rd gen on, it's 0 to 31.

Personally, I like the EV system since it at least gives non legendary pokes a chance at taking on the Legendaries without struggling like they should. Plus it adds a layer of complexity that the game normally wouldn't have before.

It's really fun to take out an all legendary with an EV trained team. The look on the other guy's face is priceless.
The EV system has nothing to do with that, as legendaries can be EV-trained just the same.  That and numerous legends were weakened in the shift from 1st to 2nd generation.  Specifically, all three of the birds and Mewtwo.  Everyone thinks Arceus is so big and bad, but the truth is Mewtwo would still surpass him if his Special Defense hadn't been slaughtered.  And that's ignoring R/B/Y Amnesia physics.  There is nothing more evil than a first-gen Mewtwo.

Their happiness goes up when I give them vitamins!
Yeah, but vitamins won't get you more than 100 EVs, so you're actually helping Keno's point there.  Whatever it is.  >.>

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x2 for pokerus
I hate Pokerus.  I have better things to do than harvest stealthy-but-stupid single celled organisms amongst my Pokemon.

Understanding what's going on doesn't ruin the game, it makes it better.
Do yourself a favor and don't read too many guides about X5.

I thought that Rare Candies worked the same as leveling in 1st gen.
Nope.  In 1st and 2nd gen you have stat experience, which basically plays the role that EVs do in 3rd gen and on.  Except the stat experience lacked a total cap.

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I'm playing Crystal right now. How do they work in that?
Each stat has its own "invisible" experience.  Whenever one of your Pokemon defeats an opponent, all of its stats gain experience equal to the base stats (that is, the strengths of a Pokemon's species) of the opponent.  Each stat can gain a maximum of 65,535 experience.  Vitamins can get you up to 25,600 experience in a single stat.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on November 07, 2009, 12:48:54 AM
Ultimate solution to all EV problems:

Allow the player to put caps on individual stats. Allow the player to lower EVs as they wish, without having to use some stupid item that isn't even explained properly.
Oh and explaining what EVs actually are would be good too.

There we go problem's solved. With no grind city, even.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on November 07, 2009, 01:55:30 AM
You really need to bear in mind that Power **** items, Macho Brace, and Pokerus never existed in combination with stat experience.  If they did, you could alleviate grinding every bit as easily.  More so, in fact, because you wouldn't have to be picky about your opponents.  Macho Brace would be pretty damn tanked up in such a system, doubling every stat gain.

Manually capping all stats would be a bit too "unnatural" to really fit with the feel of games.  But some kind of daycare/gym/tutor might help.  Hell, even making the stat-reducing berries buyable would help.

Another problem with the current EV system, though, is the inability to re-adjust.  Vitamins cannot take you beyond 100 points out of 255, far from ideal.  Beyond that, you need battle experience.  Which means if you experiment too many times after reaching Level 50, you must rely on auto-level matches, thus disqualifying you from certain tournaments (although WHY they enforce such a bone-headed rule is beyond me).  Also, EVs tie to experience gain, effectively punishing you for having an actual Level 100 Pokemon, since at that point they will no longer collect EVs from battle.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on November 07, 2009, 02:20:19 AM
They could make it so you could get every stat up to 255 and just let you pick which EVs are active. It'd make switching spreads pretty easy, I guess.

It's certainly better than just making grinding every stat mandatory for no actual reward. Be like forcing you to level up to 100 before you could play or something. That [parasitic bomb] was not fun.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on November 07, 2009, 05:15:34 AM
Once again, I don't think that kind of raw number manipulation is really fitting for in-game.  It's really more Smogon material.  But then, I could say the same thing about the 510 cap itself.

Stat experience/EVs, even if no total limit was implemented, still has a purpose in-game as it gives you an edge over similarly and over-leveled opponents.  If grinding is an issue they can always simply lower the limit.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on November 07, 2009, 06:38:13 AM
I don't think evil stealth mechanics bullshit is really fitting for in-game, but apparently the developers disagree with me. :(
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Legendary on November 07, 2009, 09:36:55 PM
I like EVs. They lemme train multiple PokeMon at once instead of having to spend weeks trying to get my ideal team up to level 100.

I think it'd be better if you could find a way to not have to grind levels so severely, still being able to use your in-game team competitively, but also having the freedom to switch between random PokeMon you may want to try out just for quirkiness. It would suck that you'd be stuck playing with the same 6 PokeMon the whole game and for every battle since, because when you decide you get tired of that team you then have to sit down and beat levels into your replacement PokeMon for a good while.

...They should really just have an item that just clears all gained EVs, and maybe an alternate Day-Care where you could leave your PokeMon in there, set the amount of EVs you want, then just go off doing something else.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on November 08, 2009, 12:53:05 AM
"set the amount of EVs you want, then just go off doing something else. "

If you're going to be that easy, you may as well just hack a Pokemon to have set EVs.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on November 08, 2009, 04:48:39 PM
I like EVs. They lemme train multiple PokeMon at once instead of having to spend weeks trying to get my ideal team up to level 100.
You realize EVs are irrelevant to level?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on November 12, 2009, 04:40:54 PM
Anyways...
For those of you that have imported your HGSS, remember that Mew is now available over the Wi-Fi, until 23rd November.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on November 12, 2009, 04:41:57 PM
Mew is now available over the Wi-Fi, until 23rd November.

*goes off to download*
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on November 12, 2009, 04:48:13 PM
Take pics! -_-
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on November 16, 2009, 08:49:49 PM
Take pics! -_-

Yay, I got Mew, two! >U<

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/pokemonhgss-mew10thanniversary.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/pokemonhgss-eeveenyan.png)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Waifu on November 17, 2009, 02:45:22 AM
I wish I had a DS and it will be too late for me until I get one, at least there is gameshark. [/pathetic]
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on November 17, 2009, 06:47:55 AM
Yay, I got Mew, two! >U<

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/pokemonhgss-mew10thanniversary.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/pokemonhgss-eeveenyan.png)
*o*
Also, wow at lvl52 Eevee Nyan<3
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on November 17, 2009, 11:41:49 PM
I wish I had a DS and it will be too late for me until I get one, at least there is gameshark.[/pathetic]
As long as you're going to cheat, may as well make it convincing.  There's always the PKM Database for latecomers.

I avoid it when possible due to my particular save ripper (REIN) hating Pokemon.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on November 17, 2009, 11:58:09 PM
Hey Shell, do you mind trading Arceus for a while? :(
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on November 17, 2009, 11:59:19 PM
Later, maybe, but not for now.  Mine's staying with me until I get HG/SS.  Or until I feel like putting up with REIN long enough to clone it.  One of those two.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on November 18, 2009, 12:01:32 AM
By "for a while" I meant that I'll give it back >_>

Hell, I can give you the event Mew if you want.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on November 18, 2009, 02:58:25 AM
*Notes down Hypershell for spare Arceus to get later*
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on November 18, 2009, 03:28:49 AM
By "for a while" I meant that I'll give it back >_>
Yeah, I know, that's just me being paranoid.  The last time I tried to trade with someone, getting a stable connection was a nightmare.

Keep pestering me, I'll cave sooner or later. :P
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on November 18, 2009, 03:34:26 AM
If I told you I think I may be able to duplicate it without cloning?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on November 18, 2009, 03:37:13 AM
... Taiyo, save one for me... Please? O^O
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on November 18, 2009, 03:38:29 AM
If I told you I think I may be able to duplicate it without cloning?
Not in the least necessary.  If you want to lure me, get a Vulpix/Ninetails for my Pokedex so that I can GTS one.

Either way, I doubt I'll be ready to trade before Saturday.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on November 18, 2009, 04:17:18 AM
Not in the least necessary.  If you want to lure me, get a Vulpix/Ninetails for my Pokedex so that I can GTS one.

Done

Good thing I checked my Ruby again, I had forgotten I was hatching dragons.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on November 26, 2009, 07:29:28 PM
Well, first it was Mew. Now it's time for the Enigma Crystal event.
The Engima Crystal will be available for download over the WiFi from 27th November 2009 to 11th January 2010. Once downloaded, head to the Pewter City Museum, talk to the guy that revives your fossils, and it will become the Soul Dew. Steven Stone will then appear to explain that it's the incarnation of the souls of Latios and Latias. Once you exit the museum, Latios (HG) or Latias (SS) will challenge you, at level 40.

If you missed the Mew event, no worries.
It will be available again, this time for Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum from 29th January 2010 to 11th February 2010, well, for Japanese players.

Source: Serebii.net (http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/wifievents.shtml)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on November 28, 2009, 09:00:01 PM
You know, looking over my latest batch of GBA-migrated Pokemon, I have to have caught the worst-IVed Latias ever (and it was on the Southern Island event, no less).  HP at 1, Attack at 7, and all four of the other stats at 0.

They really need to enforce some law-of-averages minimum limit with IVs.  If anyone ever had four 31's, you'd better believe everybody would be crying hacked.

Anyways, I think the HG/SS move tutors may have finally given me a way to fit Mewtwo into a Double Battle team.  I'm itching to experiment and see how it turns out.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on November 29, 2009, 09:39:27 PM
Which of the two are more broken right now? I keep remembering everyone harping on about how bullshit Latias was but how Latios was even worse, or am I mixing the two up?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on November 30, 2009, 03:47:56 AM
They're basically the same except Latias is slightly more defensive whereas Latios is more offensive.  The competitive scene considers Latios more of a threat at current, he's Uber with or without Soul Dew whereas Latias without Soul Dew is considered OU.

Then again, this is the same group of people who consider Wynaut to be Uber.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on November 30, 2009, 04:37:04 AM
[tornado fang], I would too.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_JhYNzEdjKdw/Sir9dq4hdkI/AAAAAAAAAIY/d3vB_QHVMAg/s320/pokerant2.gif)

Look at that thing. It's a sinspawn. His happy skipping is just... horrifying. It sends Garchomps whimpering into a the corner.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: OmegaZ on November 30, 2009, 04:46:27 AM
If any pokemon is creepy, it's Skitty, how can it have those pins in it's tail and be so cheerful, it's devil's spawn, I tells ya!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on December 12, 2009, 10:30:35 AM
(http://i45.tinypic.com/2uzv58m.jpg)(http://i49.tinypic.com/axb81c.jpg)


According to Amazon, both will be released on March 14, 2010.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on December 12, 2009, 05:22:12 PM
March, as in MegaMan 10 March?  Well, I'll have something for home and something for handheld, I guess.

Definitely nabbing Soul Silver.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on December 12, 2009, 05:36:48 PM
I'm conflicted as to get which one first...
Though I should get the other version in the distant future...
Decisions, decisions...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on December 12, 2009, 06:27:20 PM
Speaking of HG and SS, a trailer for the movie
http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/trailer/index.html#/trailer

...Ash has a [tornado fang]ing evil twin?! XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on December 12, 2009, 06:34:16 PM
I blame Celebi.
Too much time-traveling. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on December 12, 2009, 08:29:04 PM
...Ash has a [tornado fang]ing evil twin?! XD

If he yells out GO EVILCHU, it will be the best Pokemon movie ever.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on December 12, 2009, 08:39:17 PM
it will be the best Pokemon movie ever.
I was thinking more along the lines of if they had an evil Misty to bitchslap him.

*shrugs*
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on December 12, 2009, 08:41:15 PM
You're just saying that because all evil chick dopplegangers dress like sluts!   [eyebrow]
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on December 12, 2009, 08:58:51 PM
You don't need an evil doppleganger to accomplish that with Misty, not even officially.  You need only imported manga.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on December 12, 2009, 09:01:27 PM
...Ash has a [tornado fang]ing evil twin?! XD

(http://i49.tinypic.com/k3q9tc.jpg)
(http://i46.tinypic.com/2v3lh6c.jpg)

8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on December 12, 2009, 10:14:48 PM
I'm conflicted as to get which one first...
Though I should get the other version in the distant future...
Decisions, decisions...

Why get one when you can get both?  That's what I plan to do.  8D

Though truth be told I was expecting an April release, not that I'm complaining but I'm probably going to be up to my eyeballs in classwork.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on December 13, 2009, 01:08:54 AM
Why get one when you can get both?  That's what I plan to do.  8D
I'm going to do this as well.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Waifu on December 13, 2009, 02:05:09 AM
(http://i49.tinypic.com/k3q9tc.jpg)
(http://i46.tinypic.com/2v3lh6c.jpg)

8D

SPock Beard!!!!!!  :W
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on December 13, 2009, 03:00:52 AM
Why get one when you can get both?  That's what I plan to do.  8D
Not enough to get 2 at a time.
Too many hobbies need monies. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on December 14, 2009, 07:34:25 PM
Quote
On the portable side, Nintendo’s hand-held systems will see the arrival of a number of diverse games, including the eagerly awaited Pokémon™ HeartGold Version and Pokémon™ SoulSilver Version on March 14. Pokémon HeartGold Version and Pokémon SoulSilver Version allow fans to return to the scenic Johto region first introduced in the beloved Pokémon Gold and Pokémon Silver games. The games have been fully enhanced with rich graphics, updated sound, new touch-screen controls and much more.

Source (http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=107770)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Elpis TK31 on December 18, 2009, 01:18:58 AM
Already have both, and yes, they're [tornado fang]ing awesome, it's what you've been waiting for.

Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on December 27, 2009, 04:37:28 AM
Well, just of note.

For those that still don't have the Yellow Forest course for their PokeWalker, it will be available again over WiFi from 16th February to 28th February 2010. 6 different Pikachus live there:

Pika A: Fly, Thunder, Growl, Tail Whip (Lvl15, M, Shuca Berry, rare)
Pika B: Surf, Thunderbolt, Thunder Wave, Tail Whip (Lvl14, F, Lum Berry, rare)
Pika C: Flail, Helping Hand, Shock Wave, Thunder Wave (Lvl13, M, Leppa Berry, common)
Pika D: Volt Tacke, Fake Out, Thunderbolt, Growl (Lvl12, F, Sitrus Berry, common)
Pika E: Thundershock, Growl, Tail Whip, Thunder (Lvl10, M, Tinymushroom, common)
Pika F: Thundershock, Growl, Tail Whip (Lvl10, F, Oran Berry, common)

Source: Serebii.net (http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on December 27, 2009, 04:51:10 AM
Surfing Pikachu and Flying Pikachu make a comback aye? That's really intresting.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on December 27, 2009, 05:05:46 AM
Pika A: Fly, Thunder, Growl, Tail Whip (Lvl15, M, Shuca Berry, rare)
Pika B: Surf, Thunderbolt, Thunder Wave, Tail Whip (Lvl14, F, Lum Berry, rare)
Pika C: Flail, Helping Hand, Shock Wave, Thunder Wave (Lvl13, M, Leppa Berry, common)
Pika D: Volt Tackle, Fake Out, Thunderbolt, Growl (Lvl12, F, Sitrus Berry, common)
Pika E: Thundershock, Growl, Tail Whip, Thunder (Lvl10, M, Tinymushroom, common)
Pika F: Thundershock, Growl, Tail Whip (Lvl10, F, Oran Berry, common)

I want the Surfing or Volt Tackle one... O^O
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on December 27, 2009, 05:32:39 AM
You could just breed for a Volt Tackle one, if it's important to you.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on December 27, 2009, 05:34:39 AM
Though the trouble would come trying to acquire a Light Ball for breeding...
Not sure how bad it is trying to get one in DPPt...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on December 27, 2009, 05:36:42 AM
Surfing Pikachu? If only they could remake its minigame too :(
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on December 27, 2009, 07:21:12 AM
Though the trouble would come trying to acquire a Light Ball for breeding...
Not sure how bad it is trying to get one in DPPt...

It's not too hard. If you use repels and get the right level pokemon to lead, you can just go to the trophy garden and get practically nothing but Pikachu. Doesn't take too long.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on December 27, 2009, 07:36:54 AM
Hmm, the last I tried that was back in Emerald catching Pikachus in the Safari Zone.
Nincada helped though.

... Speaking of which... Darn that Lucky Egg...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on December 30, 2009, 07:03:24 AM
It's also possible to get a Light Ball with a Surfing Pikachu in Pokemon Battle Revolution. That's how I got mine.
Title: Pikachu-coloured Pichu event!
Post by: Dr. Wily II on January 12, 2010, 03:35:53 AM
Well, this is just a reminder for those of you with the Japanese game that the WiFi event for the Engima Crystal is ending on Monday, Japan time.
So, go get it if you haven't.

Posted on: January 10, 2010, 11:24:36
Yep, the special Pikachu-coloured Pichu will be made downloadable at Gamestop stores across America from January 30th to February 14th.
Just bring your Pokemon Diamond/Pearl/Platinum and DS to Gamestop, and download your Pichu!
This Pichu, when traded over to Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver, will activated the event at the Ilex Shrine in Ilex Forest, letting you encounter, and catch the special Spiky-Eared Pichu.

Source: Pokebeach.com (http://pokebeach.com/2010/01/shiny-pichu-download-at-gamestop)

... Curses.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on January 12, 2010, 03:37:00 AM
Oho, this will be an intresting year for me indeed..  XD
Title: PokeWalker Course: Champ Path WiFi event!
Post by: Dr. Wily II on January 12, 2010, 05:13:07 PM
... Darn you Gamestop!
DARN YOU ALL! *curls into a ball*

Posted on: January 12, 2010, 10:40:14
Might as well.

Those of you that have the Japanese HGSS game, there's another WiFi event, this time, for the PokeWalker Course Champ Path.
This event will run from January 13th to January 27th.
This course allows the player to catch 6 kinds of Pokemon, and each of these Pokemon learns a unique move that is usually not available to it.

Beldum: Take Down, Zen Headbutt, Iron Head, Iron Defense (Lvl5, Shuca Berry, rare)
Munchlax: Metronome, Tackle, Defense Curl, Selfdestruct (Lvl5, M, Leftovers, rare)
Horsea: Bubble, Smokescreen, Muddy Water (Lvl5, M, Dragon Scale, common)
Duskull: Leer, Night Shade, Imprison (Lvl5, M, Reaper Cloth, common)
Magikarp: Splash, Bounce (Lvl5, M, Wacan Berry, common)
Bronzor: Tackle, Confusion, Trick Room (Lvl5, Occa Berry, common)

Source: Serebii.net (http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml)
Title: Re: PokeWalker Course: Champ Path WiFi event!
Post by: Hypershell on January 13, 2010, 02:09:16 AM
Actually, all of those are Egg/Tutor/TM moves in HG/SS with one exception: Munchlax's Selfdestruct.  And even that's only restoring a hiccup of the generational cutoff.  Snorlax had Selfdestruct as a TM all through the first two generations.  Gale of Darkness made it available as a tutor move in the 3rd Gen, so this is just the first chance for a non-Pal-Parked 'lax to get it.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on January 13, 2010, 02:43:12 AM
Well true...
But it's still unique as in not naturally learnt. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on January 18, 2010, 05:15:25 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3zpC6Zfqh8[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on January 18, 2010, 05:19:29 AM
March 14th can't come any sooner...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Black Mage J on January 18, 2010, 05:22:06 AM
This actually seems like a good Pokemon game I will pick up and actually KEEP. I am loving this, if I have money after Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom, Sakura Wars, Red steel 2, and various other games.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: LightningKitsune on January 18, 2010, 04:09:58 PM
If you're that impatient, just download a ROM. I have.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on January 19, 2010, 08:49:37 PM
Hell yeah! (http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=111301)

Quote
Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions each carry a suggested retail price of $39.99.

... WAT.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on January 19, 2010, 09:08:44 PM
39.99 or so dollars aren't so bad for it's pre-order bounus.  XD

Quote
okémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions return players to the scenic Johto region first introduced in the popular Pokémon Gold and Pokémon Silver Version games for the portable Game Boy™ system a decade ago.

But then again, this is the new decade..  :\
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: LightningKitsune on January 19, 2010, 10:39:58 PM
Considering they skipped over this generation during the GBA era. And giving us a remake we really didn't need or want. (Pokemon Emerald.)

Once it comes out here, they'll have the english version of the ROM. And it's MINE.

Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Black Mage J on January 19, 2010, 10:54:19 PM
Though the preorder gives you a nice figureine of your respective legendary on box, it also includes a pokewalker accesory, I'm torn between this, and Sakura Wars.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on February 02, 2010, 03:25:07 AM
Tiny news.

Kotone, AKA Krys clone/HGSS female trainer is now known as Lyra in English.
Denpa-Henkan! Lyra! On-Air!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on February 03, 2010, 01:10:05 AM
Wild Lyra appears!

Lyra uses On-Air!

Lyra becomes Harp Noise!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on February 03, 2010, 01:13:16 AM
Wait until the "fanart" rolls around with this news..  8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on February 03, 2010, 01:19:59 AM
Already has!
(http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/5166/zxacomic2wk4.th.jpg) (http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/60526460/)

Rock PREDICTED IT! OMG!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on February 09, 2010, 02:01:27 PM
Gambling is bad for you. >U< (http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/article.php?id=14990)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on February 09, 2010, 02:48:55 PM
Hehe, my Platinum still had the Clefairy slots...
Though not so sure with HGSS now...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on February 18, 2010, 03:44:58 AM
Evolutionary Interview (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/evolutionary-interview-pokemon-heartgold/62009)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on February 18, 2010, 04:32:08 AM
Just went and bought the game in full today at Nintendo World.  I'll be getting it and my Lugia figure as soon as it comes out.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on February 18, 2010, 06:44:22 AM
Just went and bought the game in full today at Nintendo World.  I'll be getting it and my Lugia figure as soon as it comes out.

If only I lived in the NYC area, well at least I got a t-shirt and two Pokemon plushes to remind me of my visit.

I can probably reserve HGSS at the Wal-Mart near my house. Would that mean I'd get both a Lugia and Ho-oh if I reserved both games?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on February 18, 2010, 06:49:34 AM
I don't know.  I think Gamestop is giving away the same figures.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on March 13, 2010, 12:13:53 AM
For all of those interested, the game is "out" already.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on March 13, 2010, 02:59:27 AM
When are big releases NOT leaked early?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on March 13, 2010, 04:57:12 AM
Since never.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on March 13, 2010, 07:40:43 PM
Actually, since February 31, 5012 BC. I think...

I'll have to get HeartGold. Promised the Sky Fish I would. First, I need to fix my DS though...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on March 14, 2010, 07:56:02 AM
ARGH
Still conflicted to get which one first. >_<
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 14, 2010, 07:58:50 AM
ARGH
Still conflicted to get which one first. >_<
I would recommend Heart Gold since most of my friends, and myself included, are getting Soul Silver but it's your choice.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on March 14, 2010, 07:59:47 AM
I'm getting Soul Silver and am walking down to the local Game Crazy tomorrow to pick it up. I preodered it for me and Heart Gold for my brother, but he's making me trade figures so he has Lugia and I have Ho-oh.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on March 14, 2010, 08:03:46 AM
I've been playing Heart Gold.
And I decided on raising Pokemon I don't normally choose to raise, which is quite a lot of fun.
I never would have imagined that Parasect would be so awesome. Dry Skin totally rocks. :U

a Krabby is fine too.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on March 14, 2010, 08:06:09 AM
Well, I played the original Gold over Silver.
But Soul Silver has Groudon. D:
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on March 14, 2010, 08:09:36 AM
I played Gold back in the day, Japanese Gold even...I remember it like it was 10 years ago.

So it was only right that I played Heart Gold.
And thus I did.
Japanese even! And now English! (With anti-piracy lock ups to deal with!)

Also, totally gonna try to figure out setting up my Linksys for Wireless, it's not setup right now and it's bothering me that I can't do cool online stuff with my DS. (And soon to be PSP) :C

PLUS I'LL NEED SOMEONE'S HELP EVOLVING MY HAUNTER WHEN THE TIME COMES.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on March 14, 2010, 08:17:09 AM
Meh, I don't really care what pokemon I can catch in it, silver is just one of my favorite colors.

Also, call me strange, but I'm gonna give my pokemon themed nicknames, such as nicknaming Normal-types after meat dishes, water-types after fruits, fire-types after predators, etc.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 14, 2010, 08:20:18 AM
Well it's random, but could be highly amusing.  But I definitly know that I'm going to name the Red Gyarados Red Bull.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on March 14, 2010, 08:34:33 AM
I'm gonna call it Jujube.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on March 14, 2010, 08:44:07 AM
I don't nickname anything, I am lame. :C
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on March 14, 2010, 08:44:52 AM
Hmm. I still have to wait for the 25th until it's out here.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on March 14, 2010, 08:46:31 AM
I'm sure as soon as everyone starts on release, they'll immediately catch up to me, even with my head start on things. D:
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on March 14, 2010, 08:50:18 AM
I don't nickname anything, I am lame. :C
Join the club.
And you are not lame. ._.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on March 14, 2010, 08:51:49 AM
I'm not clever enough to think of themed names!
My sister went through Silver naming all her Pokemans after drugs!
I can't even think of something clever. :C


Also, I named my rival Gypsy.
=D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on March 14, 2010, 08:53:04 AM
I don't like naming things. Because I always regret it later.

So I just go with the default.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on March 14, 2010, 08:59:59 AM
Also, I named my rival Gypsy.
=D
... Perfect. 8D

I don't like naming things. Because I always regret it later.

So I just go with the default.
Indeed, that's what I think too.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on March 14, 2010, 09:03:29 AM
I'll think of clever, funny, or witty names when I play Soul Silver with cheats and what not. (Also, I learned how to apply my own cheats for CycloDS Evolution.) now I just need to learn how to manipulate and create my own. :V (or wait for a release of them)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on March 14, 2010, 09:05:43 AM
... I hate you again. -_-
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on March 14, 2010, 09:14:23 AM
Don't hate the player, hate the crack team. :V
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on March 14, 2010, 09:17:59 AM
burn the witch
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on March 14, 2010, 03:33:24 PM
I recently got mine.  >w<

So, anyone else received a Phione from Pokemon Ranch? I did.  8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VirusChris on March 14, 2010, 05:29:12 PM
Got my SoulSilver copy! Sadly my Diamond version which had the colored Pichu and Jirachi is currently missing (just like my Platinum, LeafGreen, Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald versions).

Well I can't play it right now since I'm still working on beating .hack//LINK.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on March 14, 2010, 11:05:05 PM
Okay, now I'm officailly in love with this game, it's SO broke with the D/P/Pt transfer system.  8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on March 15, 2010, 03:05:33 AM
Indeed, unrestricted trades from the get-go are awesome.  I'm holding out on Dratini so as to not spoil myself for the Extremespeed version, but in the meantime, laying the smackdown throughout Johto with Trapinch and Jirachi is pretty cool.  Plus I needn't wait to travel with a Dragonite in my Pokewalker. 8)

Got SoulSilver, and in keeping with my obscure trainer dragon references, named my character Dulcy.  Rival is Malcom (as in kicking his Gigabutt).  Current team is Cyndaquil, Wooper, Trapinch, Geodude, Jirachi, and Pichu.

And I gotta say that I *LOVE* the ability to make notes on the map.  Even if you're restricted to that funky word selection, it still makes it lightyears easier to remember points of interest.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on March 15, 2010, 05:26:00 AM
I was THIS close to getting my Heart Gold (down with SS!) today D:

What kind of stupid idea is having to sign a contract to trade in games? -_____-

Oh well, it shall be mine tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on March 15, 2010, 08:23:08 AM
I so need to check out the local game store.
Might as well get both at the same time now. -_-
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on March 15, 2010, 10:24:17 AM
Just caught Red Gyarados.

My Current Team:
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 15, 2010, 10:44:06 AM
(http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/2203/pbpyreheartgt1.png)

I IS HAPPY!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on March 15, 2010, 02:39:53 PM
Ok, just got both Heart Gold and Soul Silver.
I think I'm gonna main Gold instead.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on March 15, 2010, 02:53:14 PM
Level 27 Parasect

Why the hell would you ever use Parasect? It's a damn monster. Wait, no, that's every pokemon.

It's an evil damn monster.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on March 15, 2010, 05:12:02 PM
Well, the first official English HGSS WiFi event is gonna be the Yellow Forest PokeWalker course.
The event will start of 1st April 2010, and last until 30th April 2010.
And because I'm lazy...
6 different Pikachus live there:

Pika A: Fly, Thunder, Growl, Tail Whip (Lvl15, M, Shuca Berry, rare)
Pika B: Surf, Thunderbolt, Thunder Wave, Tail Whip (Lvl14, F, Lum Berry, rare)
Pika C: Flail, Helping Hand, Shock Wave, Thunder Wave (Lvl13, M, Leppa Berry, common)
Pika D: Volt Tacke, Fake Out, Thunderbolt, Growl (Lvl12, F, Sitrus Berry, common)
Pika E: Thundershock, Growl, Tail Whip, Thunder (Lvl10, M, Tinymushroom, common)
Pika F: Thundershock, Growl, Tail Whip (Lvl10, F, Oran Berry, common)
Source: Serebii.net (http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Ninja Lou on March 15, 2010, 05:15:55 PM
Ok so I picked my up yesterday. Quickly beat Inside Bowser story and booted up my Silver copy. It froze twice on the intro screen. I blew into my DS and it hasn't froze since. should I be worried and has anyone else had a problem with their copy. On a side note I like the Fact that the DS cart is black for silver. Did they do something different for gold?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 15, 2010, 07:51:39 PM
Ok so I picked my up yesterday. Quickly beat Inside Bowser story and booted up my Silver copy. It froze twice on the intro screen. I blew into my DS and it hasn't froze since. should I be worried and has anyone else had a problem with their copy. On a side note I like the Fact that the DS cart is black for silver. Did they do something different for gold?

You really have the worst luck ever.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Psycho Yuffie on March 15, 2010, 08:21:18 PM
Rawr! I really want to get this game. I have to wait until my next pay check.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on March 15, 2010, 08:26:34 PM
On a side note I like the Fact that the DS cart is black for silver. Did they do something different for gold?

It must be there so that the Poke-walker can detect it due to the cart's special innings, since normal wireless doesn't seem to cut it for the poke-walkers own wireless connection.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on March 15, 2010, 08:51:03 PM
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/2203/pbpyreheartgt1.png

I IS HAPPY!

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/vixy/origins/vixychaneeveechan.jpg)

I is happy too~! ^oo^
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VirusChris on March 15, 2010, 10:20:15 PM
Noiw I need to draw myself with a Charmeleon to join the party.

OK, I put my first Pokemon into my PokeWalker, my Rattata called "Jack", and it's pretty cool! So old-school with the sound and black & white graphics (though very impressive graphics). Interesting indeed.

Also I was giving away free Pikachu-colored Pihcus over at GameFAQs an hour ago to give it to people who missed the event or so. I have at 3 Pikachu-colored Pichus left and I'll be getting some more to give away after March 25th.

So I have to have two DS to trade the Pichu to your SS from your D/P/Pt versions? I have to find my old DS then to trade between my two versions. And sadly for me I lost my Diamond version which had Jirachi, Mew, Celebi, Arceus (but my little brother traded it away without knowing its worth (WTH!)), and among some of my best Pokemon along with my Platium version as well. What is it with me losing my Pokemon games? Blue, FireRed (bought a new one), LeafGreen, Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald, Diamond, and Platium versions I've lost. Worst luck ever...


Lucky for me I still have my old Red, Yellow, Gold, Silver, and Pearl versions left.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on March 15, 2010, 11:16:53 PM
Why the hell would you ever use Parasect? It's a damn monster. Wait, no, that's every pokemon.

It's an evil damn monster.
Normally I want a Bellsprout...but I wanted something different, so I thought "I'll go with Oddish!" but I caught a Paras instead and thought "Never raised one of them, I wonder what it's like..."
I haven't regretted it yet. :V
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on March 15, 2010, 11:25:49 PM
It must be there so that the Poke-walker can detect it due to the cart's special innings, since normal wireless doesn't seem to cut it for the poke-walkers own wireless connection.
Pokewalker works via infrared link in the cartridge (so it works with a DSi even if you left communications off), which is why the cartridge casing is translucent black.  Needs line of sight to work.  Basically, it's the same thing as on the GBC, 'cept in the cart instead of on the system.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on March 16, 2010, 03:57:07 AM
I [tornado fang]ing hate all of you playing either of these games right now, especially those of you with Soul Silver. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Black Mage J on March 16, 2010, 04:01:18 AM
That's okay, we can enjoy us having it.
Also, the promise of Furret sealed the deal with this.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on March 16, 2010, 04:02:38 AM
I [tornado fang]ing hate all of you playing either of these games right now, especially those of you with Soul Silver. XD
Don't hate the player, hate the crack team. :V Or, the [Bumpity-Boom!] that decided to put it on the shelves early.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on March 16, 2010, 04:03:49 AM
I [tornado fang]ing hate all of you playing either of these games right now, especially those of you with Heart Gold. XD

I agree Jelly 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 16, 2010, 04:52:14 AM
I [tornado fang]ing hate all of you playing either of these games right now, especially those of you with Soul Silver. XD

So shiny!  XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Ninja Lou on March 16, 2010, 05:03:37 AM
(http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/2203/pbpyreheartgt1.png)

I IS HAPPY!

Heh I should ask Quickie to draw a picture of you being attacked by Magneton. Good old Magnet Man. Never let me down.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 16, 2010, 05:17:35 AM
Heh I should ask Quickie to draw a picture of you being attacked by Magneton. Good old Magnet Man. Never let me down.

The more appropriate picture would not be my Magnet Man attacking me, but rather him NEVER hitting you and then, after trading him to you, him hitting me ALL the time! 
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on March 16, 2010, 06:16:37 AM
I have all 3 starters in their second stage, a pidgeotto, a beedrill, a togepi, the event Jirachi in my PC, and a couple utility pokemon.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on March 16, 2010, 11:41:18 PM
Normally I want a Bellsprout...but I wanted something different, so I thought "I'll go with Oddish!" but I caught a Paras instead and thought "Never raised one of them, I wonder what it's like..."
I haven't regretted it yet. :V
A 100% accurate sleep inducer is never a bad thing, especially for captures.  The fact that it now gets a water immunity/recovery (Effect Spore is worthless if you're going to Spore on the first turn anyway) just makes it more awesome.

I actually booted Geodude for Paras since I realized my starter was the only one who could Cut.  That and got the Spikey-eared Pichu right away to replace my colored one.  Better attack IVs, and since it's hard-coded to never evolve, lets me use a Hold item.  Seems to always be Naughty nature.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on March 16, 2010, 11:49:59 PM
The only disadvantages I see to Parasect is that it's 4x weak to three types (Fire, Flying, and Poison) and that it's ungodly slow.

On another note, my playthrough of SS has revived my love for the Cyndaquil line (especially Quilava who I always liked design-wise) and it's fun to rip through Johto with a Light Ball boosted Pikachu.  8)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 16, 2010, 11:52:17 PM
Ugh none of my friends have Heart Gold and I don't have my DSi yet so I can't trade my pokemon yet. X(
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on March 16, 2010, 11:54:35 PM
I am disappoint, Skarmory is only in SS and I'm playing HG. :C
So if/when I get my router setup to connect, who's gonna gimme a Skarmory? Cause I want one, he's badass.

Also, CycloDS Evolution 1.58B2 disables the anti piracy (At least, nearly completely, since I played for 3 hours straight without a freeze)

Anyway;

Team as of March 16th, 2010:

Shellder Level 37
Quilava Level 35
Ampharos Level 35
Parasect Level 35
Haunter Level 34
Xatu Level 34
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on March 16, 2010, 11:56:49 PM
I think I can help with a Skarmory. When should the transfer start tho? By the end of the week maybe? XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on March 17, 2010, 12:01:56 AM
I have no idea when I'll be able to get my connection setup, I've tried fiddling with my router's wireless signal myself and have been unsuccessful many times.
So I'll probably have to get some help sometime.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on March 17, 2010, 12:09:08 AM
Right now I'm in a feeble quest to catch two of the legendary dogs now (Sidetracking since I got the Maghony Gym Badge).
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on March 17, 2010, 02:51:43 AM
Oh, I thought I'd advise anyone who's EV training their Pokemon in speed and special attack go to Route 43. Plenty of Flaffys, Girafarigs (Sp. ATK) and Pidgeottos (SPD) there.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Lunar Knight Zeke on March 19, 2010, 06:04:54 PM
I need some help transferring some pokemon from both my pearl and plantinum versions to my soulsilver game. If anyone is willing to help me drop me a message.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on March 19, 2010, 10:33:09 PM
Sometimes it's easier to have more than one DS, especially with the model ('Ol Plain, Lite, and DSi).
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Lunar Knight Zeke on March 19, 2010, 10:52:35 PM
Sometimes it's easier to have more than one DS, especially with the model ('Ol Plain, Lite, and DSi).

The problem I have is that I can't just go and get a second DS just like that. Lack of spare cash prevents that.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on March 19, 2010, 11:53:57 PM
I guess I can do it. If you don't have that many pokemon to transfer.

Diamond can trade with the new games, right? Wait, of course it can. Be silly if it couldn't.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 19, 2010, 11:57:28 PM
Sometimes it's easier to have more than one DS, especially with the model ('Ol Plain, Lite, and DSi).
Good thing I'm getting mine next week, considering how there's only one person I know in my school that has Heart Gold. X(  Seriously why is everyone getting Soul Silver!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on March 20, 2010, 12:01:06 AM
HG actually does have way cooler exclusives, now that I look at it. And everyone knows my opinion is the only one that matters, so...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Black Mage J on March 20, 2010, 12:04:14 AM
Why I'm just starting to grasp my mind against the concept of EV training.
And after reading that article on that, I feel like never doing that. Ever.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Lunar Knight Zeke on March 20, 2010, 12:16:03 AM
I guess I can do it. If you don't have that many pokemon to transfer.

Diamond can trade with the new games, right? Wait, of course it can. Be silly if it couldn't.

I just have to transfer six from pearl and six from platinum. That okay with you?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on March 20, 2010, 12:23:17 AM
I'm not doing anything else right now, I guess. Just lemme get something to eat first.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Lunar Knight Zeke on March 20, 2010, 12:25:03 AM
I'm not doing anything else right now, I guess. Just lemme get something to eat first.

Alright let me know when you're ready to go.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on March 20, 2010, 12:32:30 AM
Alright, I'll just get some junks and be right with you.

ps putting in 3 fcs takes forever D:
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on March 20, 2010, 01:33:46 AM
TRADING POKEMON TAKES TOO LONG
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on March 20, 2010, 07:11:27 AM
I got a male Chikorita.
I am happy. XD

Also, currently playing HG, and trading with my Pearl to get all 3 starters.
I have a question though.
Where is the Mystery Gift option? I don't see it. ._.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 20, 2010, 07:17:55 AM
I got a male Chikorita.
I am happy. XD

Also, currently playing HG, and trading with my Pearl to get all 3 starters.
I have a question though.
Where is the Mystery Gift option? I don't see it. ._.
Wait I thought you only had a 12.5% of getting a female starter pokemon anyway.

You did scroll all the way down right, if it's not there I don't know what to tell you.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on March 20, 2010, 07:24:18 AM
It's just that a male flower dinosaur is better. XD

And yeah, I did... Maybe it's still too early in-game... >.>;
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on March 20, 2010, 07:25:55 AM
March 19th:

Team :

Shellder level 49 (Need to get a water stone now)
Ampharos level 42
Parasect level 40
Typhlosion level 39
Haunter level 38
Xatu level 38

THE ELITE FOUR WHOOPED MY ASS.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on March 20, 2010, 07:28:10 AM
Yep, I was right.
After able to access the Union Room, the Mystery Gift option popped up. ._.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on March 20, 2010, 07:29:01 AM
What's the mystery gift?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on March 20, 2010, 07:36:29 AM
That's where you get all the WiFi events that Nintendo releases for the games.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on March 20, 2010, 07:55:07 AM
Oh, so I need a WiFi connection first. D:
Hopefully my own connection will work, but PJ said something about something and it sounds like even if I were to get my router setup, that it's Shaw's fault that it probably won't work out. (And I can understand, since we had so much trouble just getting OpenCanvas to connect.)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on March 20, 2010, 08:01:10 AM
Just steal your neighbor's like I do
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on March 20, 2010, 08:10:08 AM
I live in the backwoods, none of my neighbours have WiFi I can ride off of. (i.e. most people out here have cable, and no wireless router)
That's why I was hoping on setting up our router for just that, else I would just piggyback ride on someone else's nearby.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on March 20, 2010, 02:12:17 PM
Good thing I'm getting mine next week, considering how there's only one person I know in my school that has Heart Gold. X(  Seriously why is everyone getting Soul Silver!
Between Lugia, Ninetales, and Skarmory, you really need to ask that?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 20, 2010, 06:44:29 PM
Between Lugia, Ninetales, and Skarmory, you really need to ask that?
I know, I mean that's why I got it, but the fact it there's too many Soul Silvers in the ratio.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Legendary on March 20, 2010, 08:48:50 PM
Between Lugia, Ninetales, and Skarmory, you really need to ask that?

I kinda do. =/

Wut, is Lugia version-exclusive or something?

Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on March 20, 2010, 08:59:56 PM
I kinda do. =/

Wut, is Lugia version-exclusive or something?


Nope. But Lugia is easier to get to, since you don't have to catch a trio first, and you can get to it sooner in Soul Silver.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 20, 2010, 09:00:40 PM
I kinda do. =/

Wut, is Lugia version-exclusive or something?


No but you can get Lugia sooner in Silver.

Anyway does anyone have any tips on winning the bug catching contest because no matter what kind of pokemon I catch I lose.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on March 20, 2010, 09:06:39 PM
No but you can get Lugia sooner in Silver.

And it's on the cover, and it can learn Aeroblast in Silver, and you get a Lugia figurine, and the movie made Lugia more popular than Ho-oh anyways.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on March 20, 2010, 09:08:09 PM
I always named my Lugia Lu-gi-oh...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on March 20, 2010, 09:22:40 PM
Between Lugia, Ninetales, and Skarmory, you really need to ask that?

Donphan/Claydol/Kyogre are all awesome though. Well, maybe Claydol isn't awesome. But still cool. Wierd cool.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 20, 2010, 09:24:41 PM
Hey would anyone be willing to trade me a pokemon holding a fire stone, I need it for my Vulpix and since I won't get my DSi until next Sunday I'm a bit stuck.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on March 20, 2010, 09:26:20 PM
I dunno if, for legendaries, I should go with naming them after what they're based on (which would mean, if the end, I'd have 4 Golems) or if I should just go with my name by type theme.

EX. For Lugia, if I go with naming what they're based off, it'd be named Ryujin, a dragon who was the Shinto god of the sea and lived on the ocean floor. Or, if I go with my type naming theme, since it's main type is psychic, it'd be named after a comedian, in which it would either be (Jeff) Foxworthy, (Robin) Williams, or (Gabriel) Iglesius, aka my three favorite comedians of all time.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 20, 2010, 09:37:23 PM
Uh I think it would be better if you name it Ryujin.   Speaking of comedians for some reason now I think I should name the 3 Regis Larry, Moe, and Curly...god I think weird things.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on March 20, 2010, 09:55:56 PM
why don't you just not name them
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on March 20, 2010, 10:53:41 PM
why don't you just not name them

JESUS [tornado fang]ing CHRIST! YOU'RE A MAD MAN! D:
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on March 20, 2010, 11:14:48 PM
You could just talk with the Name Rater to give a new name to your Pokémon. ^^b

Keep the default names until you decide to rename them later.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on March 21, 2010, 12:30:35 AM
No but you can get Lugia sooner in Silver.

Anyway does anyone have any tips on winning the bug catching contest because no matter what kind of pokemon I catch I lose.
I don't know, I've won that thing with a level 13 Pinsir, and a level 18 Weedle.
I have no idea how it determines if you're the best catch, I just luck out.

But I've gotten nothing but Sun Stones when I need a god damn Water Stone.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on March 21, 2010, 12:33:35 AM
They give water stones at the bug catching contest? I thought they only gave sun stones for first prize.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on March 21, 2010, 12:35:14 AM
I thought for sure it was a random evolution stone.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on March 21, 2010, 12:36:38 AM
I don't remember getting anything but Sun Stones in GSC.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on March 21, 2010, 12:42:42 AM
Well, just looked up on Bulbapedia, and it seems HG/SS have gone from just Sun Stones to any random evolution stone, as first prize.
I can't confirm that for myself though, as I've just been getting Sun Stones the only two times I've succeeded.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on March 21, 2010, 02:32:55 AM
I dunno if, for legendaries, I should go with naming them after what they're based on (which would mean, if the end, I'd have 4 Golems) or if I should just go with my name by type theme.
Even though I don't often do the nickname thing, I don't see the point of nicknaming most legendaries, since most (not all) of them are allegedly one of a kind according to the story.

Then again, I do constantly fight the urge to give my Dialga the nickname Titanus.

I don't know, I've won that thing with a level 13 Pinsir, and a level 18 Weedle.
I have no idea how it determines if you're the best catch, I just luck out.

But I've gotten nothing but Sun Stones when I need a god damn Water Stone.
I had a Level 14 Scyther and lost. O:<

Posted on: March 21, 2010, 09:31:17
Hey would anyone be willing to trade me a pokemon holding a fire stone, I need it for my Vulpix and since I won't get my DSi until next Sunday I'm a bit stuck.
I'm not sure when I'll next be online since Mrs. Shell expects me to be painting most of the day Sunday.  But I'll gladly trade you one off of my Diamond cart.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 21, 2010, 02:37:36 AM
Well, just looked up on Bulbapedia, and it seems HG/SS have gone from just Sun Stones to any random evolution stone, as first prize.
I can't confirm that for myself though, as I've just been getting Sun Stones the only two times I've succeeded.
Serebii says it too, though since I've never won one I can't say if it's true.  Though it could be only after you get the national dex.

I'm not sure when I'll next be online since Mrs. Shell expects me to be painting most of the day Sunday.  But I'll gladly trade you one off of my Diamond cart.
Thanks and if you can get a Thunder stone that be great too.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on March 21, 2010, 02:43:59 AM
If y'all is wantin' them evo stones, I can get them easy. I've got a bunch of them on Pearl and I don't play that much anymore.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 21, 2010, 02:48:02 AM
Oh really thank you.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on March 21, 2010, 02:48:43 AM
Serebii says it too, though since I've never won one I can't say if it's true.  Though it could be only after you get the national dex.
Thanks and if you can get a Thunder stone that be great too.
Now you're just being greedy.  =P

Kidding, kidding.  Besides, I have a lot more Thunder than Fire anyway.  So, since we're both on now, want to grab your DS and register my Diamond code?  I'll be online.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 21, 2010, 02:49:49 AM
Okay let me just finish this battle first and I'll be there.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on March 21, 2010, 02:51:39 AM
Also with bug catching, if you weaken that pokemon too low it'll subtract from your points, the collective stats + remaining health = total points.
Among some other things, that's why just catching level 14 Scyther can't help ya, if you weakened 'em to a near fraction of their health.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 21, 2010, 02:53:56 AM
Okay I got your friend code and am at the center so we can start anytime.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on March 21, 2010, 02:54:04 AM
Your code's in and I'm online waiting for a trade.

Also with bug catching, if you weaken that pokemon too low it'll subtract from your points, the collective stats + remaining health = total points.
Among some other things, that's why just catching level 14 Scyther can't help ya, if you weakened 'em to a near fraction of their health.
That really, REALLY bites.  The more powerful Pokemon have such a low capture rate that you're probably better off barely scratching the Level 18 Weedles and what-have-you and capturing them.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 21, 2010, 03:03:35 AM
Yay thank you.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on March 21, 2010, 03:06:06 AM
Any time.

You know, I was prepared to let you keep those Pokemon.  Besides Mewtwo and Dragonite, my entire party was spares.  Anyways, I'm gonna register you on my Soul Silver game for future reference, if that's okay.  Maybe we can do another trade/battle sometime.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 21, 2010, 03:07:58 AM
Okay as long as the pokemon aren't EV trained, I'm not real good at it and I kinda messed up my Jynx and need my friend to lower it's HP.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on March 21, 2010, 03:15:25 AM
This is why I hate the current EV system.

Well, there's always fixed-level battles with my in-game 'mans.  'course, that'll require axing my spikey-eared Pichu...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on March 21, 2010, 03:15:32 AM
I caught the level 18 weedle without denting it and won with over 300 points, so yeah, if you're just planning on winning, better off trying your luck at the "no dent" method on a Weedle/Caterpie.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 21, 2010, 03:19:58 AM
I caught the level 18 weedle without denting it and won with over 300 points, so yeah, if you're just planning on winning, better off trying your luck at the "no dent" method on a Weedle/Caterpie.

What about Metapod/Kakuna?

This is why I hate the current EV system.

Well, there's always fixed-level battles with my in-game 'mans.  'course, that'll require axing my spikey-eared Pichu...
Dude I hate it too, I always lose to my friends rabid Eevees!  Now he's trying to raise some different pokemon and 2 of them are ones I would raise and one I was thinking of raising.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on March 21, 2010, 03:45:39 AM
I'm sure even the Metapod/Kakuna will give off good points for winning if you can catch 'em with no dent, or minor dents.
But the Pinsir/Scyther are difficult to catch without landing blows on them. I think if you left 'em with at least half their health, it'd be at least okay points.
But that's trial and error more than likely.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on March 21, 2010, 04:00:36 AM
You know, it occurred to me that if you have the event Arceus, you need only reach the Ruins of Alph to get your legendary dragon.  So, off I go for my Origin Giratina.

Arceus's creation of a legendary "egg" is pretty weird.  A swarm of Unown, a weird circle pattern, funky "ancient tribe" sounding drum beat, and a bunch of IRL pictures showing everything from space to cities to microscopic life.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 21, 2010, 04:04:15 AM
Actually I read on Serebii that if you have both the movie Arceus and your regular Arceus you could do it twice.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on March 21, 2010, 04:17:00 AM
So they say.  However, to my knowledge, the Azure Flute event was never officially released, and thus the only "regular" Arceus out there are either glitched (from Japan) or hacked.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 21, 2010, 04:20:15 AM
So they say.  However, to my knowledge, the Azure Flute event was never officially released, and thus the only "regular" Arceus out there are either glitched (from Japan) or hacked.
Yeah that's kinda what I meant.  You know Serebii never fixed that thing where you can find wild Beautifly in Pearl at Route 224.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on March 21, 2010, 02:33:08 PM
Well, currently in Violet City, and taking my time to grind.
Gonna tackle Sprout Tower soon.

My team's currently...
Chikorita lvl9
Cyndaquil lvl9
Totodile lvl9
Hoothoot lvl9, with Amulet Coin
Geodude lvl9
Mareep lvl9, with Exp. Share
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on March 21, 2010, 05:25:37 PM
Lesse, I beat the Elite Four yesterday with this team in SS...

Typhlosion (Ragnarok, female) Lv. 52
Pikachu (Haywire, male) Lv. 49
Starmie (Nova) Lv. 48
Fearow (Longbeak, male) Lv. 45
Heracross (Lancer, male) Lv. 45
Umbreon (Lightsout, male) Lv. 45

Even with Pokemon at these levels I struggled with Bruno and Karen. Heck, Bruno's Machamp took out my Fearow in two hits and Lance's Aerodactyl make short work out of Haywire but luckily Nova was my trump card against his team. However, I saved Ragnarok for his Charizard for an epic battle to see who was the better starter. Needless to say I won, WITH A FLAMETHROWER TO HIS FACE!  8)

Now to go to Kanto...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on March 21, 2010, 05:27:34 PM
Man... Sprout Tower was way easier than I thought. D:

Currently training my Pokemon team to lvl11 before tackling Falkner.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Blackhook on March 21, 2010, 05:28:30 PM
Are the E4 stronger in the remake..I remember beating the whole gang with my Typhlosion only
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on March 21, 2010, 05:35:10 PM
Well...

Will
Xatu lvl40
Jynx lvl41
Xatu lvl42
Slowbro lvl41
Exeggutor lvl41

Koga
Ariados lvl40
Forretress lvl43
Venomoth lvl41
Muk lvl42
Crobat lvl44

Bruno
Hitmontop lvl42
Hitmonlee lvl42
Onix lvl43
Hitmonchan lvl42
Machamp lvl46

Karen
Umbreon lvl42
Gengar lvl45
Houndoom lvl47
Murkrow lvl44
Vileplume lvl42

Lance
Gyarados lvl46
Charizard lvl48
Dragonite lvl49
Aerodactyl lvl48
Dragonite lvl49
Dragonite lvl50
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on March 21, 2010, 06:43:58 PM
I still have yet to go through the Elite Four, but my sister was here so I was able to trade a few pokemon with her, through Diamond.
So I got some stuff to raise for later on.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on March 21, 2010, 06:46:34 PM
Going around catching legendary Pokeymans. 8U
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 21, 2010, 07:03:53 PM
I finally brought some of my Pokemon over from Diamond, mainly cause I needed a Leaf Stone and some other stuff.  Plus, it was time to bring over Pregnant to put in the Day Care Center.  Also I can continue leveling up a few that I was working on in Diamond before I took my Pokebreak.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 21, 2010, 07:36:35 PM
Well right now I'm hatching pokemon a Eevee, to evolve into a Jolteon, and a Smoochum since the Jynx I caught in the Ice Path doesn't know Psychic moves and can't learn Psychic moves naturally.   Luckly I just caught a Magmar in the Safari Zone so it'll be easier to hatch them.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on March 22, 2010, 03:58:47 AM
Are the E4 stronger in the remake..I remember beating the whole gang with my Typhlosion only

No, but they do power up later like in FRLG.

Posted on: March 21, 2010, 12:38:32 PM
Finally got my Heart Gold 8)

Oh, and HG>SS. There, I said it.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on March 22, 2010, 04:45:40 AM
Because of college, I'm still training to face off against Morty.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Ninja Lou on March 22, 2010, 04:53:50 AM
OK is there a way later on or now where I can use the pokewalker and not have to exit out of the game everytime.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on March 22, 2010, 05:10:14 AM
Beat Bugsy, and Rival.
Currently training my team to lvl18 before going into Ilex Forest.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on March 22, 2010, 05:34:54 AM
Oh you people and your preparing for your journey ahead of you.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on March 22, 2010, 06:18:49 AM
I have plenty of time to grind. 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on March 22, 2010, 06:49:00 AM
When you speak of grinding, you have to do so in great detail, or else we're all lost as to what you mean.
This is RPM after all.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 22, 2010, 06:53:04 AM
When you speak of grinding, you have to do so in great detail, or else we're all lost as to what you mean.
This is RPM after all.

Oh, I know exactly what he means!   8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Ninja Lou on March 22, 2010, 07:04:34 AM
Beat Bugsy, and Rival.


Sweet! Wait where though? I took him down and I still have to reset to use the walker
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 22, 2010, 07:10:56 AM
Sweet! Wait where though? I took him down and I still have to reset to use the walker

I think he was mentioned what he had just done......while arrogantly wiggling his eyebrows.   [eyebrow]
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Ninja Lou on March 22, 2010, 07:18:54 AM
Blast!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 22, 2010, 07:30:33 AM
Also, Coffee looks SO HAPPY in the Pokewalker!  XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on March 22, 2010, 07:35:46 AM
Also, Coffee looks SO HAPPY in the Pokewalker!  XD
Coffee? You have a pokemon named after my power source?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 22, 2010, 07:39:05 AM
Of course I do!  XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on March 22, 2010, 07:40:53 AM
AWESOME!!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on March 22, 2010, 08:38:06 AM
I think he was mentioned what he had just done......while arrogantly wiggling his eyebrows.   [eyebrow]
SHHH! Don't have to tell him that! [eyebrow]

But to really answer your question Lou...
I don't think there is any way around that.

When you speak of grinding, you have to do so in great detail, or else we're all lost as to what you mean.
This is RPM after all.
BAH! I so mean m... *shot*
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on March 22, 2010, 11:40:54 PM
Well...
'mans and levels don't tell you all that much, as I've known the early Gym Leaders to be a lot tougher thanks to powered up TM moves.  Take for example, Bugsy, there is NO COMPARISON between Fury Cutter and U-Turn.

That said, Morty loathed my Pokewalker.  Scrappy Kangaskahn, FTW. 8)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 22, 2010, 11:44:45 PM
Bugsy didn't get a chance to use those moves on Pyre Heart!   8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on March 23, 2010, 01:06:12 AM
'mans and levels don't tell you all that much, as I've known the early Gym Leaders to be a lot tougher thanks to powered up TM moves.  Take for example, Bugsy, there is NO COMPARISON between Fury Cutter and U-Turn.

That said, Morty loathed my Pokewalker.  Scrappy Kangaskahn, FTW. 8)
Funny you mentioned this.
I made the wrong choice of sending HootHoot to meet his Scyther, and he beat me squarely in the face. >_>
Thank god save points. >_>
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on March 23, 2010, 01:06:58 AM
I just got my first badge. Using Dialga so early in the game, even if everything else has been twice its level, feels like cheating XD

Also, I find Absol's sprite when it follows you (traded an Absol egg first chance I got) to be just adorable.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Ninja Lou on March 23, 2010, 01:28:45 AM
Dialga so early? what did you do just transfer him early?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on March 23, 2010, 01:33:20 AM
Arceus event, you can easily do it even before the Sprout Tower.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on March 23, 2010, 01:36:55 AM
Please send me an extra Arceus... ;_;
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on March 23, 2010, 01:38:42 AM
Ask Shell, he's the one that gave it to me.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on March 23, 2010, 01:41:23 AM
... Now, time for some international timezone planning, and Starbucks. -_-
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Lunar Knight Zeke on March 23, 2010, 02:16:09 AM
So far I have the first four badges.

My team is as follows:

Jirachi (ev trained) lv. 24
Noctowl lv. 24
Monferno lv. 25
Croconaw lv. 28
Flaafy lv. 25
Beedril lv. 25

So far I am considering replacing one of my mons for Giratina, but I'm not sure which one. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on March 23, 2010, 02:19:54 AM
Well, I doubt Beedrill is going to be useful for much longer.

Ask Shell, he's the one that gave it to me.
I try to minimize my Pokesav cloning due to Rein being a pain in the ass (there are two copies of your save file, current and backup, and they alternate; Rein can only ever find one).  You just caught me at the right time.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on March 23, 2010, 02:25:32 AM
Well, I guess I could do it myself, but first I need someone to help me with this. (http://forum.rockmanpm.com/index.php?topic=127.msg220801#msg220801)

That, and I'm not sure if I'll have much free time these days.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on March 23, 2010, 03:00:13 AM
Oh darn it... ;_;
*prays even harder for the Azure Flute event*
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on March 23, 2010, 03:05:08 AM
*looks at my lv. 100 movie Arceus*

...8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on March 23, 2010, 03:10:24 AM
... Darn you. -_-
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on March 23, 2010, 03:18:16 AM
I must ask:
Is this worth getting? I've only played a bit of the second gen on the ole Gameboy Color.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on March 23, 2010, 03:41:11 AM
Considering this is possibly the best non-spinoff Pokemon game, yes.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on March 23, 2010, 11:46:27 PM
Well this is a remake of "the second gen on the ole Gameboy Color" so you should definitely get it.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on March 23, 2010, 11:48:51 PM
*looks at my lv. 100 movie Arceus*

...8D

*looks at my lv. 265 MissingNO*  8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on March 23, 2010, 11:53:11 PM
*eats said Missingno*

Glitcherific!

Actually, the highest I ever saw was a Lv. 168 Squirtle. Sadly, upon transfer to Pokemon Stadium, it lost 68 levels...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on March 23, 2010, 11:56:32 PM
MissingNo now is the Anti-Spiral of Pokemon, lol
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on March 24, 2010, 12:00:53 AM
I thought you'd be madder that I ate your Missingno...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 24, 2010, 12:10:03 AM
Coffee got a lot of walking in today with me!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on March 24, 2010, 12:30:49 AM
Considering this is possibly the best non-spinoff Pokemon game, yes.

So what's the best game including spinoffs, then?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on March 24, 2010, 12:31:30 AM
This.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 24, 2010, 12:32:16 AM
Coffee got a lot of walking in today with me!
Which pokemon is Coffee anyway?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 24, 2010, 12:40:05 AM
Which pokemon is Coffee anyway?

LoL, now think about this, young one.  Judging by the sound of the name, and imagining me yelling it out, what Pokemon does it sound like?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 24, 2010, 12:42:52 AM
LoL, now think about this, young one.  Judging by the sound of the name, and imagining me yelling it out, what Pokemon does it sound like?
Okay now I get it, I always thought that way too.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Deadpool on March 24, 2010, 01:07:38 AM
Does anyone have a free legit Kyogre from Embedded Tower?

and if you guys have one, tell me what you want from me.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on March 24, 2010, 01:36:46 AM
So what's the best game including spinoffs, then?

Well, I didn't include them because I haven't played them all, but Card and Snap are up there at least (god damn it, make them sequels Nintendo).
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on March 24, 2010, 01:44:23 AM
Personally, for best spinoff I'd go with Colosseum.  It uses the core gameplay mechanics, but with additions that emphasize the need to raise your critters rather than simply let them rot in the PC.  Also features pretty much the only hero of the RPGs who can be taken remotely seriously (read: is not a 10-year-old n00b who upstages all the experienced trainers).

A shame Gale of Darkness went the wrong way in attempting to expand it.  They added tons more Shadows, mandating an "automated" method of purification, which rendered the whole idea of bonding with your Pokemon to purify them obsolete.  What they need is to take Colosseum's level of Shadows (40-something, I believe) and attach it to a game that has normal wild encounters.

Snap was a lot of fun, though.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 24, 2010, 01:57:22 AM
Personally, for best spinoff I'd go with Colosseum.  It uses the core gameplay mechanics, but with additions that emphasize the need to raise your critters rather than simply let them rot in the PC.  Also features pretty much the only hero of the RPGs who can be taken remotely seriously (read: is not a 10-year-old n00b who upstages all the experienced trainers).

Was that the GC game with the Shadow Pokemon and the battles that took forever?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on March 24, 2010, 02:07:11 AM
Two GC games had Shadow Pokemon.  Colosseum was the first.  Not sure where "battles that took forever" is coming from.

In fact, in terms of pacing, that's one more thing I love about Colosseum: The entire game uses the Double Battle style.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 24, 2010, 02:11:46 AM
All I remember about that game was that I started with Espeon & Umbreon, a single battle literally took me about 5-10 minutes, that I couldn't skip animation, and that de-shadowfying the shadowmon took forever..
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on March 25, 2010, 02:49:16 AM
Annnnnd finally got the game
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on March 26, 2010, 07:55:10 PM
I'm playing the Spanish version, now! :3
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on March 28, 2010, 08:43:03 AM
Well...
Currently at Route 26, training up my team to lvl50 before heading into Victory Road.

Team consists...
Meganium lvl48
Typhlosion lvl46
Feraligatr lvl50
Noctowl lvl47
Golem lvl50
Ampharos lvl50
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on March 28, 2010, 08:49:04 AM
I already beat the League >_>

With:
Meganium     Lv.46
Kingler          Lv.41
Magmar        Lv.42
Noctowl       Lv.44
Mamoswine   Lv.49
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on March 28, 2010, 09:18:21 AM
I stopped playing for now, started playing SMT: Strange Journey until my PSP arrives.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on March 28, 2010, 04:33:22 PM
I got a bit distracted with other stuff, so I'm not as far ahead as you'd expect a launch-day nut to be.  Getting there, though.

Reset my game repeatedly in order to get a decent Red Gyarados (nicknamed THUNDRZORD).  Just cleared Team Rocket out of Goldenrod (love that battle theme).  Making straight for Blackthorn in order to get that Extremespeed Dratini as soon as possible.

Current team:

Typhlosion - Lv.36
Kangaskahn - Lv.35
Jirachi - Lv.33
Red Gyarados - Lv.31
Spikey-eared Pichu - Lv.39
Vibrava - Lv.35

EDITS: Retired Pichu at Lv. 40 for my new Dratini. 8)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hiryu on March 28, 2010, 06:39:46 PM
Not too far in the game, I just got through Ilex(?) forest and on the route that takes you to Goldenrod.

My team consists of:
Quilava - 16
Pidgey - 15
Mareep - 14/15 maybe
Ekans - 12
Wooper - 11
Togepi - 11

Looking for a Haunter.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: DarkWaltz on March 28, 2010, 09:59:00 PM
Not too far in the game, I just got through Ilex(?) forest and on the route that takes you to Goldenrod.

My team consists of:
Quilava - 16
Pidgey - 15
Mareep - 14/15 maybe
Ekans - 12
Wooper - 11
Togepi - 11

Looking for a Haunter.

I'm not sure about Haunter but you can catch Gastly in Sprout Tower at night.

Currently in Goldenrod trying to get my 10k coins for Flamethrower.

Current team consists of;
Bayleaf - Magnesium
Pidgeotto - Hermes
Butterfree - Hemera
Furret - Otachi
Lapras - Pandora
Eevee - Aile (Who will become a Jolteon eventually) XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Lunar Knight Zeke on March 29, 2010, 04:24:27 AM
I have seven badges and just finished off Team Rocket in Goldenrod. My team is as follows

Giratina(Origin Form): level 25
Jirachi: level 36
Red Gyarados: level 34
Infernape: level 36
Feraligator: level 39
Ampharos: level 36

Right Now I'm exploring the Dark Cave for a bit before I head to Blackthorn City.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on March 29, 2010, 04:29:20 AM
I'm re-battling the E4. You people are slow.

Of course... my pokeymans are still somewhat under leveled. :v
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 29, 2010, 07:02:13 AM
I'm training my pokemon now for the Blackthorn Gym

My team is

Espeon (Apollo) Lv 35
Jolteon (Flash) Lv 15
Vulpix (Kitsune) Lv 35
Skarmory (Sharp) Lv 30
Smoochum (Shiva) Lv 13
Feraligater (Poseidon) Lv 37

Yes I know I could of named my Vulpix better but I couldn't think of any at the time and I'm reserving Blaze for, well Blaziken.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on March 29, 2010, 08:45:05 AM
why would you want to name a pokemon after that guy :/
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 29, 2010, 08:48:52 AM
Because I forgot the Japanese name for a Nine Tailed Fox, plus even if I did know it I didn't want to sound like a Narutard.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on March 29, 2010, 08:49:45 AM
What guy?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 29, 2010, 08:52:38 AM
I think she was talking about the fact that I named my Vulpix Kitsune, I don't really know she wasn't specific.  Plus if she was talking about it I'm not sure if she ment Kitsu or Foxtar.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on March 29, 2010, 09:05:13 AM
He >_>

And I was talking about Blaze
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 29, 2010, 09:07:08 AM
Okay what's wrong with Blaze, it's just a generic name I name my main fire pokemon nothing special.

EDIT: Oh [parasitic bomb] sorry I thought you were a girl, sometimes I don't notice the gender thing.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on March 29, 2010, 09:27:05 AM
So, I was training in the Victory Road, trying to get my team to lvl55 after a rather evil Dragonite trio...

And what did you know?
My Noctowl caught the Pokerus, and has infected my whole team. :3

Oh, and I have a Hardy Mareep named SHEEPGOD that knows Flash.
E-yep.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on March 29, 2010, 09:44:16 AM
My team is infected with the Pokerus I caught when I first played Ruby
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on March 29, 2010, 09:45:36 AM
I think I still have that in my Emerald too...
Though no way I'm Pal-Parking them over.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on March 29, 2010, 09:51:20 AM
Pokerus?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on March 29, 2010, 09:58:13 AM
Yes.
They are microscopic beings that infect your Pokemon, and can spread quickly.
It's VERY beneficial to training up your Pokemon, as it, IIRC, doubles the EV you gained at every level up.
If your Pokemon are infected, they have a PKRS icon in their status screen, but the virus will go away eventually, about one day if left out of the box.

If you deposit a Pokemon with the Pokerus in a box, it doesn't infect the rest in the same box, but the Pokemon will not recover from the Pokerus either.
Those Pokemon that have recovered will have a '.' in their status screen.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on March 29, 2010, 10:00:19 AM
The chances of finding it are astonishingly low. Like 1/16000 or something ridiculous like that. Easy to spread once you've got one pokemon infected, though.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on March 29, 2010, 10:00:33 AM
 Yeah I just looked it up. XD
Sounds cool, never even knew it existed.

Introduced in Gen III was it? Probably why I never heard of it, I kinda skipped Gen III, didn't really interest me much.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on March 29, 2010, 10:02:48 AM
It was in gen 2. Just you probably never saw it because of that whole 1/20000 thing. I know I didn't.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on March 29, 2010, 10:07:02 AM
Yeah, I played Gen II in Japanese, soon after the ROMs were released.
That was a long time ago, and I didn't make it very far; due to the whole Japanese thing and me not knowing a lick of Japanese.

So I missed out on figuring that out.
Plus I skipped over Gen III mostly, and only just started playing Pokemans again with Gen IV, haven't come across any virus thing for my Pokemans, so I never thought to look it up before. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on March 29, 2010, 01:52:32 PM
Just beat Blue, so now I have all 16 badges. Yay.

Lv.55 Meganium
Lv.47 Staraptor
Lv.48 Kingler
Lv.48 Magmar
Lv.55 Mamoswine

Hmm. I'll have to do some team adjusting before I head to Mt. Silver. And some training.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on March 29, 2010, 08:02:02 PM
Whitney's Miltank went down a lot easier than I thought I would, it didn't even get to heal, or roll once (thank you Curse). Clefairy was another story, [tornado fang]ing bastard got Frenzy Plant from Metronome against my Croconaw >=(

Right now my team is something like

Lv.20 Croconaw
Lv.19 Absol
Lv.19 Murkrow
Lv.17 Gastly
Lv.15 Dratini
Lv. 9 Geodude
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: CephiYumi on March 29, 2010, 08:04:31 PM
Sooo, is there anything forever missable in this version?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on March 29, 2010, 11:51:33 PM
The slots at the game corner.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on March 30, 2010, 02:38:59 AM
The whole Team Rocket disguise antic more than makes up for that, I'd say.

Love the fact that you actually get to fight a Double Battle with Lance, as well (of course, you just have to stay alive and his Dragonite will [twin slasher] everyone, but I tried to do my part anyway).

So anyways, I skipped Mount Mortar initially, so now I'm exploring it and using the time to level up my Extremespeed Dratini.  Training a Lv. 15 'man after 8 badges is quite tedious.  After that, it's off to Whirl Islands.

And I gotta say, I am loving having a starter with Lava Plume. 8)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on March 30, 2010, 04:31:02 AM
It's a pity that the Team Rocket disguise was too short... Darn you Silver... XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 30, 2010, 04:42:47 AM
The whole Team Rocket disguise antic more than makes up for that, I'd say.

Love the fact that you actually get to fight a Double Battle with Lance, as well (of course, you just have to stay alive and his Dragonite will [twin slasher] everyone, but I tried to do my part anyway).

So anyways, I skipped Mount Mortar initially, so now I'm exploring it and using the time to level up my Extremespeed Dratini.  Training a Lv. 15 'man after 8 badges is quite tedious.  After that, it's off to Whirl Islands.

And I gotta say, I am loving having a starter with Lava Plume. 8)
No training lv 1 mans' before your 8th badge is way more tedious trust me, especially when one of them is a Smoochum since it's only Female so no inherited attacks unless you trained a Alakazam or traded a pokemon with a whole lot of special attacks that a Smoochum can learn, which I didn't. 

At least it wasn't as bad as my Crystal game when I had to train 5 pokemon since I over powered my Typhosion when I was like 9-11 years old or something.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on March 30, 2010, 05:09:38 AM
Why not just trade them to DPP and train them there? Surely that's less time consuming.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 30, 2010, 05:24:40 AM
Why not just trade them to DPP and train them there? Surely that's less time consuming.
I just got my DSi yesterday. :\  Maybe I'll try that since I'm not going to EV train that party.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Ephidiel on March 30, 2010, 02:27:48 PM
mycurrent team is

Neya ( Ghastly) lv 22
Styl  ( Quilava) lv 22
Nido  ( male)    lv 14


need to transfer one of my ralts and riolu to my Silver
can someone help me with that?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 30, 2010, 10:39:49 PM
Well I managed to get a fuckton of SoulSilver in during my vacation, to the point where I am literally just about to fight Red.  Here's my current team, and I'll let you guess who's who, since I'm only going to tell you what I've named them!  (Some of them should be obvious)

PYRE HEART
SAMURIFIC
WAVEWOMAN
SILVERHAWK
TOLLS
CREEPY
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 30, 2010, 10:50:36 PM
Pyreheart Is Typhosion, or maybe Cyndaquil
Samurific Uh Sneasle, Scizor, or Gallade?
Wavewoman I'm going to guess Lapras
Siverhawk I'm going to guess either Skarmory, some other flying type or Tyranitar
Tolls No idea so I'm going to guess some electric type
Creepy Tyranitar, Gengar, or some ghost type?

Man I don't know what kind of team you employ so I don't have much of a clue.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 30, 2010, 10:56:30 PM
Pyreheart Is Typhosion, or maybe Cyndaquil
Samurific Uh Sneasle, Scizor, or Gallade?
Wavewoman I'm going to guess Lapras
Siverhawk I'm going to guess either Skarmory, some other flying type or Tyranitar
Tolls No idea so I'm going to guess some electric type
Creepy Tyranitar, Gengar, or some ghost type?

Very good, young one!  You got 3 out of 6 correct!  XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 30, 2010, 10:58:30 PM
Can you tell me which ones are correct...or at least which one was Tyranitar? -u-'
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 30, 2010, 11:00:23 PM
Can you tell me which ones are correct...or at least which one was Tyranitar? -u-'

Actually none are Tyranitar.  However, PYRE HEART is indeed Typhlosion, SAMURIFIC is Gallade, and CREEPY is Gengar!   ;)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 30, 2010, 11:02:10 PM
Ah I see those are kinda obvious, I only guess Tyranitar since I knew that was one of your favorites.  And I think Milotic is Splashwoman.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on March 31, 2010, 04:02:56 AM
I'd assume Silverhawk is Skarmory?
EDITS: That's what I get for skimming at late hours.

Tolls, Tolls......  That's a tough one.  The only 'man I associate with money is Meowth.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 31, 2010, 04:05:51 AM
Naw I already guessed that.  

I think Sliverhawk might be a Lucario, Dragonight or a Marowak.  As for Tolls it could be his Snolax since he blocks your way and you either have to beat him or catch him, but it's probably not likly since I know he didn't name Snorlax that in the Pokemon Tournament arc in GoRPM.  

I'm also going to guess that Splash Woman might be Gorebys as well.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on March 31, 2010, 04:10:12 AM
As for Tolls it could be his Snolax since he blocks your way
Perhaps, though by that logic it could also be a Sudowoodo.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 31, 2010, 04:12:24 AM
Yeah but PB doesn't seem too be the type of guy to use that kind of Pokemon I think.  I don't know Tolls is a hard one.  Splashwoman obviously has to be a feminine looking Water type and heck if I know what Silverhawk is.

EDIT: Wait is Silverhawk Lugia?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 31, 2010, 04:23:20 AM
EDIT: Wait is Silverhawk Lugia?

BINGO.  Bravo, Young One! 4 out of 6.

As for Tolls, think of a famous book title!  XD

Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 31, 2010, 04:26:02 AM
Wait what about Splashwoman?   Um I unfortunatly don't read many books. '>.>
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on March 31, 2010, 04:28:04 AM
I'm up the creek in that department as well.  I read one series religiously, but I think it's a safe bet that PB isn't carrying a Weedle named Taxxon.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rin on March 31, 2010, 04:31:09 AM
BINGO.  Bravo, Young One! 4 out of 6.

As for Tolls, think of a famous book title!  XD


lol Ernest Hemingway

Also, am I the only one, who just can't be bothered to play this? I mean, I did get hyped up and [parasitic bomb]... but in the end, I just lack the drive to play this(or to even finish Platinum).

MINNA! TASKETEEEEEE! KYAAAAA!

I mean... help me?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 31, 2010, 04:33:05 AM
Hemingway huh, research time!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 31, 2010, 04:36:13 AM
lol Ernest Hemingway

Corrrrrrrect!  XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 31, 2010, 04:37:13 AM
Bronzong!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on March 31, 2010, 04:42:52 AM
Bronzong!

Nope. 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 31, 2010, 04:43:03 AM
LoL, nope!  But, the clue is indeed in the title!  XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rin on March 31, 2010, 04:45:27 AM
LoL, nope!  But, the clue is indeed in the title!  XD

Ho-Oh?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 31, 2010, 04:45:42 AM
Uh Foretress, Chimecho?  And you didn't answer my question abour Splashwoman, I mean I named every single feminine looking water type out there unless you mean Starmie or maybe even Jynx I mean it's not a water type but hey. 
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 31, 2010, 04:47:49 AM
Ho-Oh?

Haha, nope! 

Uh Foretress, Chimecho?  And you didn't answer my question abour Splashwoman, I mean I named every single feminine looking water type out there unless you mean Starmie or maybe even Jynx I mean it's not a water type but hey. 

LoL, oh sorry.  It's WaveWoman, and it's indeed a Water Pokemon.  Actually, I doubt anyone will guess this because it harks back to what I named this Pokemon in the original Silver!  XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 31, 2010, 04:50:52 AM
Quagsire, Lanturn, Kingdra for Wavewoman?  Uh Victreebel for tolls?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rin on March 31, 2010, 04:52:45 AM
Goddammit, PB. I thought I had you there... well, not really.

Wait... for the love of God, PB.
Don't tell me it's... is it Chansey?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 31, 2010, 04:53:39 AM
What would Chansey have to do with bells?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 31, 2010, 04:55:34 AM
Uh Victreebel for tolls?

There ya go!   8)

Okay, since no one will guess WaveWoman, it's Quagsire!  XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rin on March 31, 2010, 04:57:26 AM
What would Chansey have to do with bells?
Dunno.
Wait, probably because of Heal Bell.

And probably because of anime, cuz I remember Chansey running there with a bell.

Tough, I'm not sure anymore.

Also, crap. I was wrong.

My Poke-Fu is low. : <
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 31, 2010, 04:57:52 AM
Ugh I was going to guess that next it was staring me in the face, besides a water type out of 251 wouldn't be hard to find tou shouldn't have given it away.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 31, 2010, 04:59:59 AM
Well then I'll give you credit for it anyway!  You got 6 out of 6, Sakura.  You WIN!  XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on March 31, 2010, 05:02:37 AM
Are the first two gyms supposed to be easy?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 31, 2010, 05:04:06 AM
Well then I'll give you credit for it anyway!  You got 6 out of 6, Sakura.  You WIN!  XD
Yay!  Really these are definetly not the pokemon I would expect you to use, but then again not everyone is like me since I would use a lot of mainstream pokemon I think.  Blaziken, Salamence, Absol, Lucario, Roserade, Feraligater, Jynx and Metagross are pokemon I would use.

Are the first two gyms supposed to be easy?
Of course I mean Bug types are the weakest types ever and Flying types are easy as long as you didn't pick Chikorita.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on March 31, 2010, 05:09:04 AM
Are the first two gyms supposed to be easy?
Yeah, they are. I blew through 'em fast enough. Unfortunately, since I decided to level everyone else up, that [sonic slicer] Whitney stomped/rollouted my ass 3-4 times before I made her cry.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 31, 2010, 05:14:33 AM
Yay!  Really these are definetly not the pokemon I would expect you to use, but then again not everyone is like me since I would use a lot of mainstream pokemon I think.  Blaziken, Salamence, Absol, Lucario, Roserade, Feraligater, Jynx and Metagross are pokemon I would use.

Mainly, I use the Pokemon I really like. Some are mainstream, some are not. In the original Silver, I had SO many Pokemon up to LVL100. I'm hoping to do that in SoulSilver too.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 31, 2010, 05:19:10 AM
Yeah these are pokemon I like I mean I used Jynx in Crystal before.  I would conside Typhosion but it doesn't seem to have enough type variaty in the Special Attack department since it's geared for that and high Speed.  Besides I like Blaziken better it's my favorite Starter of all time.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on March 31, 2010, 05:19:30 AM
I'm currently breeding the hell out of the Pokemon I have so I can trade with my Platinum. I have most of my Fire (including six Infernapes and five Blazikens, am I crazy or something?  o//////o) and Water Pokemon transferred over. However, I still have a lot of Lv. 100 Pokemon to trade over it's not funny.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 31, 2010, 05:23:23 AM
I'm currently breeding the hell out of the Pokemon I have so I can trade with my Platinum. I have most of my Fire (including six Infernapes and five Blazikens, am I crazy or something?  o//////o) and Water Pokemon transferred over. However, I still have a lot of Lv. 100 Pokemon to trade over it's not funny.
Hey at least you didn't try to breed 2 and a half box fulls of Eevees or so for the rabid Eevee team on EV steroids my friend uses.  Seriously he's good at EVing pokemon I mean he EVed a new non Eevee team in no time, but then again he had a Macho Brace. :\
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rin on March 31, 2010, 05:31:23 AM
This thread needs more...

POKEMON HUNTER J!
(http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/7367/j04f.jpg)

She's like Boba Fett, except she hunts dem Pokeymanz.
Which makes me wonder, why are many anime-only Pokemon characters so friggin' awesome? Especially villians.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 31, 2010, 05:34:56 AM
Heck if I know.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on March 31, 2010, 06:27:51 AM
Simple, they want you to hide the fact that the point of the plot fell off a cliff when Misty was swapped out for May and her obnoxious little brother, Flanderized Brock, and made Ash switch the hat he clearly stated he would NEVER give up and was willing to get killed by a wild pokemon (Mankey/Primeape) to get it back.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on March 31, 2010, 06:29:33 AM
I remember the days when I watched Pokemans...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Harruhy on March 31, 2010, 06:33:19 AM
Didn't Pokémon Hunter J die?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on March 31, 2010, 06:35:54 AM
Didn't Pokémon Hunter J die?
Silly man, nobody dies in the pokemon anime. It's a kid's show.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 31, 2010, 06:39:47 AM
Simple, they want you to hide the fact that the point of the plot fell off a cliff when Misty was swapped out for May and her obnoxious little brother, Flanderized Brock, and made Ash switch the hat he clearly stated he would NEVER give up and was willing to get killed by a wild pokemon (Mankey/Primeape) to get it back.
Yeah that's probably it.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on March 31, 2010, 06:49:00 AM
Also, am I the only one, who just can't be bothered to play this? I mean, I did get hyped up and [parasitic bomb]... but in the end, I just lack the drive to play this(or to even finish Platinum).

You could try playing against people. I find that a lot more interesting than the AI.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rin on March 31, 2010, 01:22:08 PM
Silly man, nobody dies in the pokemon anime. It's a kid's show.
Ummm...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9344MWUVNws

You could try playing against people. I find that a lot more interesting than the AI.

Oh yes. I remember once playing some of the previous Pokeyman games with my friend. [parasitic bomb] was so cASH.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on March 31, 2010, 10:30:10 PM
Ummm...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9344MWUVNws

AND the death of AiTwo. Let's not forget about that eh?

Oh yes. I remember once playing some of the previous Pokeyman games with my friend. [parasitic bomb] was so cASH.

I once caught a Beedrill in the origional G/S/C games, that was fun.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rin on March 31, 2010, 10:58:35 PM
AND the death of AiTwo. Let's not forget about that eh?
AND those scientists guys, who cloned Mewtwo for Giovanni. They are also kind of dead.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on March 31, 2010, 11:10:22 PM
I don't know guys, I think they could have survived that.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 31, 2010, 11:14:09 PM
I don't know guys, I think they could have survived that.
Yeah for all we know they could have used stealth emergency escape pods. -_-
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on April 01, 2010, 03:31:00 AM
Or they could have lived off of fish and water extracted from the atmosphere until Mewtwo buried them alive under the new lab.

AND the death of AiTwo. Let's not forget about that eh?
I assume Ai is Amber's japanese name?  Three 'mans died with her, as well.

Also, Latios.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on April 01, 2010, 03:43:52 AM
Does Celebi count even though it came back to life?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Waifu on April 01, 2010, 04:29:06 AM
I am goign to get me infinite rare candies, I just lose the paitence to grind after awhile.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on April 01, 2010, 04:46:28 AM
GB Sounds + Rematches with Gym Leaders = GRINDING LIKE [tornado fang]
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: DarkWaltz on April 01, 2010, 05:42:33 AM
Does Celebi count even though it came back to life?

I would assume so, since nothing else would've brought it back it seemed. Not even Suicune purifying the waters.

Oh, Sir Aaron and Lucario also died in the... seventh movie I think... Where the Regis show up. (And they just sounded freaking awesome in that movie. Why can't they make those noises in the games?!  >_< )
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on April 01, 2010, 08:50:55 AM
Well I beat Red and the upgraded Elite 4 with this team

Meganium ♂     Lv.58
Jolteon ♂         Lv.52
Magmar ♀        Lv.53
Staraptor ♀      Lv.63
Mamoswine ♂   Lv.66
Kingdra ♂         Lv.74

Now what :/
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on April 01, 2010, 08:53:29 AM
....Wow, I was just trying to be funny and everyone points out every single insinuated and actual death in the series....
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on April 01, 2010, 10:20:28 AM
Oh yes. I remember once playing some of the previous Pokeyman games with my friend. [parasitic bomb] was so cASH.

Now what :/

You fight.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on April 01, 2010, 06:55:10 PM
....Wow, I was just trying to be funny and everyone points out every single insinuated and actual death in the series....
And to think we're not even done yet:
I would assume so, since nothing else would've brought it back it seemed.
If immediate revival counts, then Ash gets multiple entries.  At least two that I recall (Mew/Mewtwo crossfire and taking leave of his body in Lavender Town).

GB Sounds + Rematches with Gym Leaders = GRINDING LIKE [tornado fang]
Can't argue with that one.  I expect much grinding after I've cleared the game.

So anyways, got the Yellow Forest Mystery Gift, needed to axe my shiny (probably hacked, I got it in a trade) Dragonite for an electric/ground/grass type to lower the ludicrous step requirements.  And what do you know, spikey-eared Pichu appears properly in the Pokewalker.  Guess that's one thing it's good for besides early game glass cannon.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on April 01, 2010, 09:32:13 PM
So I'm mooching off of my brother's file here and there and one thing has really gotten me thinking... When the hell did Pokemon games get so slooooooow? XD

I used to be able bat out a battle move selection & execution in milliseconds, animations on and everything, but this game makes me f...eel lik...e I'm moooooving through mol..asses, like...... this. Even traveling feels a lot longer than it once did. I don't mind though since the game is [tornado fang]ing awesome. Now excuse me while I go kill some people for my own Soul Silver.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on April 01, 2010, 09:39:17 PM
Am I the only one who NEVER uses the bike because I want to see my Pokemon following me at all times.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on April 01, 2010, 09:40:11 PM
What about Cycle Road?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on April 01, 2010, 09:41:57 PM
LoL, well besides there!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on April 01, 2010, 09:51:05 PM
Here we are, Mt. Silver. I got strong enough pokemon from diamond to bring over, and I'll teach my Metagross Rock Climb, for obvious reasons.  -_-

Soo, trade up? I got Nidoran I need to get rid of. I have far too many.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on April 01, 2010, 10:03:48 PM
Speaking of getting rid of 'mans, I need to stick a few into GTS sometime.  You get an extra Pokewalker course for doing an international trade.

Am I the only one who NEVER uses the bike because I want to see my Pokemon following me at all times.
Not in the least. 8)  I may axe the bike entirely from my shortcuts once I get GB Sound (Dowsing gets the touch icon).  All I can say is, thank God the running shoes have an on/off switch instead of having to hold B the entire game.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on April 01, 2010, 10:07:13 PM
Who would ever turn off the Running Shoes?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: AquaTeamV3 on April 01, 2010, 10:32:58 PM
Not in the least. 8)  I may axe the bike entirely from my shortcuts once I get GB Sound (Dowsing gets the touch icon).  

There's no real point to adding the GB sounds to your shortcuts menu, though.  It stays on as long as your DS' power is on (unlike the radio), so it wouldn't be all too practical.

Who would ever turn off the Running Shoes?

It helps in caves or in other situations where you may want to lower the encounter rate.  Pokemon appear more often while running, so I've done it when I need to avoid that.  Of course, the same thing can be accomplished with Repels.  :\

Anywho, I've got 16 badges and am now training/catching before I go off to fight Red.  I must say, this game has the absolute best Safari Zone in the franchise.  Customizable areas, placeable items with instant effects, no time limit; this place has it all!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Lunar Knight Zeke on April 02, 2010, 10:48:29 PM
Okay... right now I'm Trying to catch Raikou and Entei before I go off to face the pokemon league. So far I have had no luck with either one. So far I've weakened them down and have paralyzed them, but they either faint on me from using struggle, or get critical hits like crazy on my team. It is becoming really frustrating and I'm considering using my master ball on one of them. So does anyone have advice on catching the two other than using mean look and taunt to keep them from running/roaring?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on April 02, 2010, 11:12:16 PM
I got both, still remember the D pad + A (or was it B?) trick? I think I used it on both, with an Ultra Ball on each, now, how in the world am I supposed to catch Suicune in SS? I chased it down three times.. >.>
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on April 02, 2010, 11:15:28 PM
You find Suicune close to Bill's house.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Night on April 02, 2010, 11:20:36 PM
He's been feeding stray legendaries...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on April 02, 2010, 11:46:50 PM
[tornado fang]ing Yellow Forest. This [parasitic bomb] is further attempt to make people walk more by making the Pikachus people actually care about getting impossibly hard to get!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Lunar Knight Zeke on April 02, 2010, 11:48:15 PM
I got both, still remember the D pad + A (or was it B?) trick?

Mind explaining how this "trick" works?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on April 03, 2010, 12:11:39 AM
I slightly remember how it works, basically. Simply hold down the D pad facing down and press A before it lands. You must have perfect timing, before the pokeball hits the ground.

I suggest practicing this trick with 15 wild pokemon with a normal pokemon until you have mastered this trick.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on April 03, 2010, 04:12:16 AM
Relevant:
(http://www.vgcats.com/super/images/080619.gif)
You have to love tricks that have about the same odds of being entered correctly as you do of making a successful capture normally.

(It does NOTHING; just a popular rumor, and it feels nice to have something to do)

So does anyone have advice on catching the two other than using mean look and taunt to keep them from running/roaring?
You mean that actually works?  I'd assumed they possessed a magical ability to run in spite of Mean Look, seeings how I've already known the 4th-gen roaming 'mans to run away in their sleep.

Spore and False Swipe (TM54).  Best friends of anyone making a capture.  Some specialty Pokeball would be handy, too.  Fast Balls could work.  Dusk Ball if you're doing this at night.  Level Balls in the unlikely event you have a Level 80+ 'man.  Quick Ball might work; I'm not sure if it counts previous encounters as turns since the roaming 'mans do not heal.

[tornado fang]ing Yellow Forest. This [parasitic bomb] is further attempt to make people walk more by making the Pikachus people actually care about getting impossibly hard to get!
It is ridiculous, isn't it?  Something like a 2 or 3 percent chance of getting one of the Pikachus that has the special moves, and even that's only after an insane number of steps.

The fact that said moves are not breedable (besides Volt Tackle) makes it all the more fun, since you're at the mercy of random Natures.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on April 03, 2010, 05:37:36 AM
[tornado fang]ing Yellow Forest. This [parasitic bomb] is further attempt to make people walk more by making the Pikachus people actually care about getting impossibly hard to get!

*looks at the flying Pikachu I caught on the first encounter*

... 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on April 03, 2010, 05:38:49 AM
[tornado fang] you

I even actually walked to get the damn watts too >_>
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on April 03, 2010, 05:43:38 AM
I always hold A+B+Down.
It makes me feel like I'm really doing something to help improve my odds.
Plus, I want to believe it was helping me ALMOST catch Entei on the first encounter.
Almost....almost...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on April 03, 2010, 06:12:27 PM
Lugia apparently loves me.  Went into the very first Heavy Ball I tossed at him.

(and no, I did not hold anything, just Thunder Wave and HP in the red).
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on April 04, 2010, 04:25:53 AM
Hey does anyone have an idea what would be better a Jynx with all Special Attacks or a Mamoswine with Rest, Sleep Talk, Avalanche, Earthquake and low speed or any combination of attacks?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on April 04, 2010, 09:02:24 AM
I prefer that Jynx.

Also, I'm taking my Pokewalker wherever I go! FOR THE FLY AND SURF (So far only caught the Volt Tackle one, and multiple very normal ones...)
Oh yeah.
The Yellow Forest event is extended to the 5th May 2010, so don't forget to get it.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on April 04, 2010, 09:26:12 AM
Hey does anyone have an idea what would be better a Jynx with all Special Attacks or a Mamoswine with Rest, Sleep Talk, Avalanche, Earthquake and low speed or any combination of attacks?

Jynx dies way too easily. She's like Porygon-Z, except even more fragile, and less killy. Mamoswine is way cooler. 130 base attack and STAB Earthquake/Ice Shard, yeeeeeeeeees.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on April 04, 2010, 01:46:21 PM
FOR THE FLY AND SURF

I have both. 8D

'Cept the surfing Pikamouse I didn't get from the PokéWalker. >>;
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on April 04, 2010, 01:47:24 PM
Therefore your statement is invalid. :P
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on April 04, 2010, 01:48:55 PM
I lost the Pokewalker somewhere in my room >_>

those damn Pikachu will never be mine will they
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on April 04, 2010, 01:49:18 PM
Therefore your statement is invalid. :P

Why waste watts on a surfing mouse when I already have one?

those damn Pikachu will never be mine will they

No. 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on April 04, 2010, 01:51:18 PM
FOR POSTERITY, THAT'S WHAT
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on April 04, 2010, 01:51:58 PM
FOR POSTERITY, THAT'S WHAT

You have a point, I guess...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 04, 2010, 01:55:57 PM
Man, if only they had released the Yellow Forest earlier. I walked so much on wednesday that by the end of the day I literally had thousands of watts -__-
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Lunar Knight Zeke on April 04, 2010, 04:25:53 PM
I finally got Entei and Raikou. I also beat the E4, so I'm pretty much halfway through the main game. Now I'm gonna start EV training some pokemon to take into the Kanto region.

And on the subject of the yellow forest, I hate how they set up the encounter rate for surfing/flying pikachu. Although, I got a lightball out of it, so all that walking wasn't a total waste.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on April 05, 2010, 03:11:25 AM
I prefer that Jynx.

Jynx dies way too easily. She's like Porygon-Z, except even more fragile, and less killy. Mamoswine is way cooler. 130 base attack and STAB Earthquake/Ice Shard, yeeeeeeeeees.
Okay so no one knows.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 06, 2010, 11:50:25 PM
Okay, I need help thinking of nicknames for some of my pokemon. I named my Feraligatr Gatorzilla, but seriously, it needs a better name >_>, and then there's my Murkrow (female btw) which I have absolutely no idea how to name.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on April 07, 2010, 01:02:36 AM
I burned about 1,500 watts in Yellow Forest yesterday.  The sad thing is, having encountered 6 or more rare Pikachus (you can tell by how many steps grass-chases it takes to find them, thankfully), I caught only 2.  That Critical Hit rate has *GOT* to be rigged.

Anyways, wound up with one each of Volt Tackle, Surf, and regular Pikachus.  Still looking for Flying.

Hey does anyone have an idea what would be better a Jynx with all Special Attacks or a Mamoswine with Rest, Sleep Talk, Avalanche, Earthquake and low speed or any combination of attacks?
"Better" depends on what exactly you're trying to do.

I will say, though, I tried the Rest/Sleep Talk combination once, with Shuckle, and vowed to never try it again.  There's every chance in the world that Sleep Talk will choose Rest, thus wasting your turn anyway.  For all the flak that tournament players give against "luck-based" tactics (evasion/accuracy, King's Rock, etc.), I'm amazed that strategy passes as acceptable.

I would call Mamoswine the overall better Pokemon, (definitely the best Ice Shard user, although so much so that your opponent will probably expect it).  Jynx's defense is simply terrible; she's toast in the face of any physical attack.  But she does possess the 2nd strongest STAB Ice Beam (Glaceon being the strongest), so she could make a mean Choice Scarf revenge killer.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dexter Dexter on April 07, 2010, 01:08:01 AM
Okay, I need help thinking of nicknames for some of my pokemon. I named my Feraligatr Gatorzilla, but seriously, it needs a better name >_>, and then there's my Murkrow (female btw) which I have absolutely no idea how to name.
You think you got it bad? My Cyndaquil has the shittiest name in existence (Pyroburn), And I didn't even bother giving my Pidgey a nickname. :|
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on April 07, 2010, 01:11:12 AM
At least you have enough letters.  I hate character limits, but THUNDRZORD can live with them.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 07, 2010, 01:15:36 AM
I burned about 1,500 watts in Yellow Forest yesterday.  The sad thing is, having encountered 6 or more rare Pikachus (you can tell by how many steps grass-chases it takes to find them, thankfully), I caught only 2.

Whoever decided that the Surf/Fly Pikachus have only a 3% chance of appearing needs to be punched on the face. I wasted 500 or so watts only to find one, and on top of that it escaped...FROM THE GODDAMN POKEBALL WHEN IT ONLY HAD 1 BAR OF HP!  O:<

After that I haven't had any luck getting anything above a "!" =/
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on April 07, 2010, 01:19:16 AM
I'd be amazed that you GOT your first rare Pikachu down to one bar of HP, considering my luck.  Every single Pikachu that I missed was due to a Critical Hit at half health.  Which got *REALLY* old after the fourth time. O:<
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on April 07, 2010, 01:26:42 AM
I'd be amazed that you GOT your first rare Pikachu down to one bar of HP, considering my luck.  Every single Pikachu that I missed was due to a Critical Hit at half health.  Which got *REALLY* old after the fourth time. O:<
For me it was just the opposite, I wanted to practice on regular pikachu's, since I normaly don't get 10,000 steps anyway, but they just run away if I tried my hit and evade tactic even once.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 07, 2010, 01:27:44 AM
What pissed me off more was that the Pikachu escaped with 1 hp, but the next normal Pikachu I throw a pokeball at without doing anything before stays there -___-
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gotham Ranger on April 07, 2010, 03:09:06 AM
You think you got it bad? My Cyndaquil has the shittiest name in existence (Pyroburn), And I didn't even bother giving my Pidgey a nickname. :|
My Cyndaquil is Dante. The other permanent part of my team, Shinx, is Vergil.

What's amsuing, is I started to play HeartGold then realised I still had FireRed. I started playing that inside.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on April 08, 2010, 04:48:05 AM
My Cyndaquil is Dante. The other permanent part of my team, Shinx, is Vergil.
Ooh, names!

I don't know how I come up with my names, but I think they're decent.
Quilava: Prite (Formerly "Ictaca")
Zubat: Examus
Togetic: Meringue
Flaaffy: Temer
Gastly: Ammele
And there was a Geodude that I stopped using, who I named "Dram".
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 09, 2010, 12:18:01 AM
Quick pokewalker question, if I already got 10,000 steps one day, do I need to do it again the next day to find the rare pokemon even if I haven't returned mine from the stroll?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on April 09, 2010, 02:01:48 AM
Probably yes.  Because, if you look at your Pokewalker's counters, steps do not carry over day-to-day (but watts do).
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 10, 2010, 12:52:05 AM
I'm not so sure, I think I remember getting a !! yesterday with 3000 or so steps. Besides, even if the counter resets it's still counting them together in one stroll for when it sends the data back to the DS which is why I'm not sure.

Posted on: April 09, 2010, 01:24:59
Ok, I just got a metal coat from the pokeathlon and my scyther is currently level 31, is there ANY reason I shouldn't want to evolve him right now?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on April 10, 2010, 03:16:10 AM
Posted on: April 09, 2010, 01:24:59
Ok, I just got a metal coat from the pokeathlon and my scyther is currently level 31, is there ANY reason I shouldn't want to evolve him right now?
Heck no. EXCELSIOR!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on April 10, 2010, 05:01:33 PM
Not unless Wing Attack, Air Slash, and Vacuum Wave mean anything to you.  And really, they shouldn't.

Fun fact about Scyther/Scizor, the base stat total does not actually increase.  Scizor just has the obviously better typing, and re-arranged stats for less speed and more attack and defense.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 10, 2010, 05:05:02 PM
Over 1000 watts now and I've only seen 1 !!! Pikachu which is the one I've mentioned before...[tornado fang] this [parasitic bomb], if it wasn't because I really want a Surfing Pikachu because of nostalgia (surfing minigame in Yellow was awesome) I wouldn't even try anymore.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on April 10, 2010, 05:06:49 PM
You know, if you bought Battle Revolution, you could have had a Surf/Volt Tackle Pikachu AGES ago (provided you don't mind that it's a Hardy Nature, anyway).
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 10, 2010, 05:10:57 PM
Meh, no minigames no buy, it's what I used the Stadium games for the most. Still, doesn't change the fact that making the encounter rate 3% was an awful awful idea.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on April 10, 2010, 10:25:25 PM
I'll be the first to admit that Battle Revolution isn't Nintendo's deepest project, but Trainer customization > minigames any day of the week.

If anything, my main criticism with Battle Revolution is that it has no update for the Platinum forms, limiting the use of Giratina, Shaymin, and Rotom.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Harruhy on April 10, 2010, 10:28:02 PM
I'm not sure how to go about discussing Battle Revolution. It's an odd bit of Pokémon gaming. The trainer customization was nice, but the battling... kinda subpar to be honest. My only gripe with that game.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on April 10, 2010, 10:30:27 PM
Another thing is how limited the customization was.. at least, I kinda felt that way.  :\
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Harruhy on April 10, 2010, 10:34:05 PM
Yeah, it was very limited. The Pokémon "outfits" were somewhat nice though.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on April 10, 2010, 10:36:27 PM
I think it worked well enough once you had enough money to buy a decent selection.

More than visuals, though, I loved entering my own catchphrases.  "I need DRAGONITE power!"

But yeah, the game had no voice chat (we say this of all online Nintendo games but it's especially noticeable when it's something the portable counterpart already got) and the difficulty curve was almost nonexistant (there's three colosseums that are really freaking hard, and the rest are [acid burst]-poor).

Their take on the "baby" battling was fun, though.  Any 'man's basic form, as long as it has some evolutionary tree, at Level 5.  If only Onix, Sneasile, and Scyther didn't break it (and maybe to a lesser extent Misdreavus).
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Thanatos-Zero on April 10, 2010, 10:57:51 PM
Not unless Wing Attack, Air Slash, and Vacuum Wave mean anything to you.  And really, they shouldn't.

Fun fact about Scyther/Scizor, the base stat total does not actually increase.  Scizor just has the obviously better typing, and re-arranged stats for less speed and more attack and defense.
If you ask me, Scizor should have less spezial attack instead of less speed.

The ulimate Scizor of the 2nd Generation has these stats.

KP 343 
ATK 358
DEF 298 
SPEZ.ATK 208 (base 55)
SPEZ.DEF 258
SPEED 228

Now if we arrange the stats in my way we get this.

KP 343 
ATK 358
DEF 298 
SPEZ.ATK 108 (base 5)
SPEZ.DEF 278
SPEED 308
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on April 10, 2010, 11:48:05 PM
http://www.rockmanpm.com/player/player.swf?file=http://www.rockmanpm.com/i/mp4/pokemonhgss_starly_vs_arceus.mp4
Download (http://www.rockmanpm.com/i/mp4/pokemonhgss_starly_vs_arceus.mp4) (LV1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRdmERmwPe8))

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Download (http://www.rockmanpm.com/i/mp4/pokemonhgss_pikachuteam.mp4)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on April 10, 2010, 11:51:34 PM
LoL at that first video!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Thanatos-Zero on April 10, 2010, 11:55:04 PM
http://www.rockmanpm.com/player/player.swf?file=http://www.rockmanpm.com/i/mp4/pokemonhgss_starly_vs_arceus.mp4
Download (http://www.rockmanpm.com/i/mp4/pokemonhgss_starly_vs_arceus.mp4) (LV1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRdmERmwPe8))

Arceuz: I... defeated by a mere mortal?! Arrrrrrgggghhhhhh.... *disintigrates into dust*
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on April 10, 2010, 11:56:44 PM
LoL at that first video!

YES! XD XD XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on April 11, 2010, 12:02:24 AM
That's the true power of endeavor? lol.  XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on April 11, 2010, 12:06:02 AM
Yeah. That's funny!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on April 11, 2010, 03:13:03 AM
First video is an old, old trick, dubbed FEAR by those who prefer Rattata (and I really wish Pichu could learn Quick Attack so that the Gamestop Event one could actually do something).

Second video, I can just hear the player.  "YELLOW FOREST HATES ME!!!"
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on April 11, 2010, 03:38:33 AM
dubbed FEAR by those who prefer Rattata

Rattata is in the top percentage? :3
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on April 11, 2010, 04:02:23 AM
RATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATA
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on April 11, 2010, 05:58:17 PM
Rattata is in the top percentage? :3
As far as the Endeavor abuse goes, yeah.  But that tactic period is not in the top percentage because passive damage wrecks it (and Sandstorm/Hail/Stealth Rock/Spikes are everywhere in "standard" competition).  It's also obvious, because there's nothing else an unevolved 'man 80 levels lower than you is going to do, and it's possibly setup bait.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on April 12, 2010, 03:13:15 PM
Ok, so it's NOT just me about the rigged critical hits. >_>

The best I've got is only a Volt Tackle one.
All the rest are the regulars. ._.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 17, 2010, 08:57:00 PM
So, has anyone tried this?
http://community.livejournal.com/pokewifi/2167924.html

Also, I need to walk some more, what's the point of having almost 2000 watts stored if I don't have the necessary number of steps -__-
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on April 17, 2010, 10:33:42 PM
So, has anyone tried this?
http://community.livejournal.com/pokewifi/2167924.html
It totally works. I just got an Arceus. :D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 17, 2010, 10:35:58 PM
From someone else or your own? If it's yours then it'd be impolite to not share it 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on April 17, 2010, 10:39:34 PM
From someone else, although I believe it is just data similar to the events. In other words, if you had gone to the events that released the Pokemon, then it is the same as the method above.

EDIT: How cheap... You can literally get any pokemon you desire that is listed on the website.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on April 17, 2010, 11:40:25 PM
It's not just the website; you can use Pokesav to create any Pokemon you want, and this thing could send it over.  Pokemon hacking has been capable of cloning any 'man, events included, for ages.  All this means is that you can now do it without the need of a flash card.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on April 18, 2010, 09:24:00 AM
Python... And I swore to never touch it again! ;O;

But... I am SO very tempted to try this...
Movie Arceus... Jirachi... Movie Regigigas... *o*
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on April 18, 2010, 10:43:44 AM
EDIT: How cheap... You can literally get any pokemon you desire that is listed on the website.

Is that so bad? You could just catch/breed most pokemon anyway. All it really helps with is possibly skipping breeding for good IVs/egg moves, which is tremendously unfun, and obtaining event pokemon, which shouldn't be so hard to get anyway.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gotham Ranger on April 18, 2010, 11:00:01 AM
Truth be told, if I ever wanna bother tourneyfagging with my Pokemon, I'll just AR them.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on April 18, 2010, 05:11:58 PM
Python... And I swore to never touch it again! ;O;

But... I am SO very tempted to try this...
Come join the Dark Side!  [eyebrow]
Is that so bad? You could just catch/breed most pokemon anyway. All it really helps with is possibly skipping breeding for good IVs/egg moves, which is tremendously unfun, and obtaining event pokemon, which shouldn't be so hard to get anyway.
Since you can't really get event pokemon anymore, anyways, I guess it would be okay. Plus, you got a point on the pokemon, but my well-trained, in-game, non-cheap/cheat/fake pokemon can certainly beat them....  8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on April 19, 2010, 02:04:07 AM
Sooo, anyone want a battle with me? I want to see how I stand vs other ppl.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 19, 2010, 06:18:23 AM
I'm just here to say [tornado fang] you Lance and your Charizard with your always flinching Air Slash >=(
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on April 19, 2010, 06:21:30 AM
Lance was the easiest to beat.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 19, 2010, 06:29:36 AM
Eh, my party is just not suited for fighting Lance -__-

Everything has a counter to Feraligatr, Gengar can't take a hit and do anything other than killing Gyarados with Thunder (when the game doesn't hate me and makes them all miss), Arcanine can't do much damage because of the type, Scysor is only good against Aerodactyle but he still gets 2 shoted, my Honchcrow can't do [parasitic bomb], and Absol gets usually killed before a single sword dance...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on April 19, 2010, 06:44:07 AM
Couldn't you give Feraligatr an Ice Move?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 19, 2010, 06:45:47 AM
He has one already, maybe I'll change Ice Fang for Blizzard, but that won't stop him getting OHKOd by Thunder (Fang) -___-
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on April 19, 2010, 06:54:55 AM
Anyone up for a battle? My pokemon are weak, but I want to see what I am missing.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 19, 2010, 07:25:01 AM
I love complaining on the internet, it forces fate to make your next attempt succeed. Now time to explore Kanto.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on April 19, 2010, 03:13:21 PM
He has one already, maybe I'll change Ice Fang for Blizzard, but that won't stop him getting OHKOd by Thunder (Fang) -___-
Ice Punch D:
Blizzard may not be enough, considering Feraligatr's Sp. Att. stat.

Also, try tackling Lance with Feraligatr at lvl55.
All 3 Dragonites go down one shot against Ice Fang.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 19, 2010, 03:20:01 PM
I refuse to grind (besides I got lucky and beat him already), I was able to beat the DPPt league with pokemon 20 levels lower than Cynthia's and there's no reason for me to not do the same with Lance (although there's only a 10 level difference instead of 20).
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on April 19, 2010, 03:20:54 PM
But the Thunders D:
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 19, 2010, 03:21:53 PM
Wacan berries.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on April 19, 2010, 03:24:08 PM
One use D:

Either way, gonna start grinding in Soul Silver now. ._.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on April 19, 2010, 06:56:51 PM
Akamaru I'll battle you, the only issue is that it won't happen until I get off work around 7pm or so...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on April 19, 2010, 09:34:52 PM
OK RPM, I'm bored and it looks like it'll be a while before I get my Soul Silver. In that case, I'd like to propose a workaround. I'll go online with my bro's Heart Gold. He's been wanting to take his Pokemon online for a while now after all.

The FC is 4297 5603 0391. His trainer name is Gold.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on April 20, 2010, 05:12:35 AM
4684 1135 9203 is mine. My team consists of 2 lvl. 80s, 1 lvl 50, and 1 lvl 20. If you go thru my top two, I'm screwed, but I doubt it. :D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Harruhy on April 20, 2010, 05:20:32 AM
His trainer name is Gold.

Creative...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on April 20, 2010, 07:39:13 AM
4684 1135 9203 is mine. My team consists of 2 lvl. 80s, 1 lvl 50, and 1 lvl 20. If you go thru my top two, I'm screwed, but I doubt it. :D

The game actually autolevels your team to 100 when you play online. Keepin' things fair, y'know.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on April 20, 2010, 07:41:12 AM
I see. I wonder if it keeps in mind the EVs the particular pokemon has when auto leveled like that...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on April 20, 2010, 07:43:45 AM
It does. At least, I think.

If you want a match now I'll play you. My new team isn't quite finished, but I can manage a decent substitute for a sixth, so...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on April 20, 2010, 07:45:30 AM
Sounds good. I' sub for a 4 & 5th member on my team too.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on April 20, 2010, 07:49:13 AM
But... not a sixth? You want a 5v5, or am I misinterpreting you?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on April 20, 2010, 07:50:46 AM
No. that is a error on my part. I mean 5th & 6th. I have only EV trained 4 pokemon, so I'll just use whatever for my last two.

EDIT: Alright. Ready whenever you are.

EDIT Water pokemon... 1 water pokemon tore my team apart. I have never battled a Gorebyss, thus I lost the moment it rained... >_>
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on April 20, 2010, 08:16:07 AM
JC Denton's noble sacrifice will long be remembered.


Basic rundown:
My Electrode vs his Typhlosion.
Electrode starts rain, gets hit by rollout, EXPLODES, so both down.
My Gorebyss comes out against his Nidoking, kills it with one surf.
He sends out Charizard, Gorebyss kills it with one surf.
He sends out Dragonite, Gorebyss kills it with one ice beam.
He sends out Grovile, I switch in Leafeon 'cause my rain's ended. Grovile uses some attack I can't remember, but misses.
Grovile uses quick attack and does no real damage, gets killed by x-scissor.
He sends out Lugia, I kinda freak out.
Leafeon uses rain dance, Lugia starts using fly.
I switch in Lanturn, who gets hit by fly but only loses a quarter of her HP.
Lanturn gets hit by Steel Wing, doesn't care (quadruple steel resist woo woo), uses confuse ray.
Lugia is busy hitting himself, Lanturn thunders him.
Lugia uses aeroblast, Lanturn doesn't really care (like 252 spdef EVs and a flying resist, woo woo) and thunders again for the KO.


Basically rain is awesome and I like it now.

(Also I had two other swift swimmers just waiting so oh ho ho)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on April 20, 2010, 08:23:19 AM
While my team is not the fastest, that Swift Swimmer thing completely took me by surprise. And you had two more you say...?  -u-'

Give me a week and I should have gotten the last two members up and running. Lugia and Nidoking weren't part of it and now I'm thinking of taking out Typlosion since there is too much of a Water weakness.

EDIT: Seems like I forgot to take Macho Brace off on Grovile... In fact, it seems like I had nothing in terms of items on for my Pokemon. Not that I had any anyways.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on April 20, 2010, 10:30:11 AM
Soul Sliver update, team consists of:
Lvl6 Chikorita
Lvl6 Geodude
Lvl6 Rattata
Lvl5 Hoothoot
Lvl5 Spearow

Gonna grind the last 2 before leaving Cherrygrove.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on April 20, 2010, 11:48:50 PM
Got my entire team in Soul Silver to level 100. Also, over 100 hours of game play. [tornado fang] yeah. :v

Now to start Heart Gold.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Legendary on April 21, 2010, 12:30:59 AM
Need a Power Herb to get into my Heart Gold from my Diamond. Anybody wanna be a trade conduit?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on April 21, 2010, 01:00:40 AM
Anyone up for some battles now? I've finally input all the names & FCs into his Heart Gold.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on April 21, 2010, 05:14:07 AM
You guys always get online when I am not available...  -AC
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on April 21, 2010, 05:15:11 AM
I'm up for one now Akamaru. :)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gotham Ranger on April 21, 2010, 12:03:15 PM
I hate the fact I got preoccupied with FireRed the moment I bought HeartGold. Maybe I'll have to do something with my team in Pearl so I can battle some of you
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Black Mage J on April 22, 2010, 07:58:21 AM
Got my entire team in Soul Silver to level 100. Also, over 100 hours of game play. [tornado fang] yeah. :v

Now to start Heart Gold.
'>.>
I haven't even caught Lugia...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on April 23, 2010, 01:35:26 AM
Um...

I've just arrived in Mahogany Town.

I went to the Lake of Rage, was extorted for 1K Yen(?), and caught the Red Gyarados (a female, who I named "Moody").

What do I do now?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on April 23, 2010, 11:53:43 AM
Talk to Lance (red hair Dragon trainer), go back to Mahogany, look in the house that's a shop, do stuff there, go to the gym and get the badge, get a phone call, go to Goldenrod, get a Eevee in Bill's house, enter the Radio Tower. The rest is for you to figure out. ^^; </wii>
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on April 23, 2010, 11:33:28 PM
This has been Game Help With Vixy. Tune in next time, same nya time, same nya channel! ^_^
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Ninja Lou on April 26, 2010, 06:44:42 PM
I have a habit of hitting buttons when throwing a pokeball. Lately I have been popping in the Konami code for no apparent reason. Does anyone else have any habits when throwing and trying to catch a pokemon?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on April 26, 2010, 06:48:26 PM
Only press down here. Surprisingly this is a holdover habit I have from the original Red/Blue/Yellow days and the weird programming that made it so pressing down exactly when the Pokeball open/close animation started altered the probability of catching a Pokemon.

I used this through all the gens I've played so far. It was most amazing catching a Rayquaza with a bog standard Pokeball. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 26, 2010, 07:16:26 PM
I have a habit of hitting buttons when throwing a pokeball. Lately I have been popping in the Konami code for no apparent reason. Does anyone else have any habits when throwing and trying to catch a pokemon?

Only this. (http://www.vgcats.com/super/?strip_id=8)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on April 26, 2010, 08:41:08 PM
I hold A. It seems to work better...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on April 26, 2010, 08:50:43 PM
Down+B for life.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on April 26, 2010, 09:04:31 PM
Down + A + B since I first discovered this goodie.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gotham Ranger on April 26, 2010, 09:14:15 PM
Just B. When it works, it feels amazing
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on April 26, 2010, 09:17:03 PM
I may have used B on occasion as well... I don't know, it just feels cool.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on April 26, 2010, 10:07:27 PM
I have never heard, in my whole life (even during R/B/Y), that pressing any buttons guarantees a catch, so I've never picked up the habit.

 :\
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on April 26, 2010, 10:18:32 PM
It works against most Legendaries and Red Gyarados (with a Pokeball too). ^^b
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Karai on April 26, 2010, 10:24:08 PM
I press up when throwing a ball, and holding it I press B when the ball closes.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on April 26, 2010, 10:24:51 PM
Only this. (http://www.vgcats.com/super/?strip_id=8)

lol page 58 (http://forum.rockmanpm.com/index.php?topic=1613.msg225029#msg225029)

Down+B for life.

[tornado fang] yeah!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on April 26, 2010, 10:42:06 PM
oh man

placebos

i fuckin' love placebos



(i love my false swipe/hypnosis gallade more though)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on April 30, 2010, 06:49:42 AM
Alright. Who feels they can take on my finished team? I need to see if it will will against Hypershell.

Posted on: April 28, 2010, 03:30:21 PM
Is there no one who wants to try? I hoped someone will try before soon. If my team lacks or is weak somewhere, the week I have before I challenge Hypershell is enough to at least train 1 or extreme case, 2 pokemon.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on April 30, 2010, 06:55:43 AM
I would... if I had this... which won't happen for a while. I'm just gonna get myself a DSi before getting this; my DS Lite just pisses me off too much now.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on April 30, 2010, 06:58:54 AM
Is there no one who wants to try? I hoped someone will try before soon. If my team lacks or is weak somewhere, the week I have before I challenge Hypershell is enough to at least train 1 or extreme case, 2 pokemon.

Well, I guess you can try me again, if you want. I didn't offer earlier 'cause I didn't really think you'd want to play me twice in a row, but nobody else is volunteering, so...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on April 30, 2010, 07:06:28 AM
I don't mind. In fact, I prefer to play against those who are better than me.  8)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on April 30, 2010, 07:07:01 AM
I'll be online then.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on April 30, 2010, 07:25:58 AM
I screwed up. I should have continued with Sunny Day with Charizard. It would have turned the tables on that whole match...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on April 30, 2010, 07:27:16 AM
Ah, choice items. The magic of choice items.



Maybe I'll refrain from doing a writeup just so Hypershell can be surprised when you play him.


Don't think sunny day woulda helped, either. You might have been able to take out Ludicolo, but I woulda just switched in Electode, danced again with his 1 hp before he got killed, and then things woulda gone just like they did.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on April 30, 2010, 07:29:43 AM
I guess that means I passed. I would have won if it weren't for the Swift swimmer, I think, but alas, it wasn't meant to be. Nice match.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on April 30, 2010, 07:31:31 AM
Saying you would have won without swift swim doesn't really mean much when you're playing against a rain team. That's kind of the point, y'know?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on April 30, 2010, 07:35:04 AM
...  >3<
Good point. I was hoping my Berserker with Sanstream or Solaris with Sunny Day would have at least caught you off guard, but my team is too all around to effectively fight a team like yours.

Now to make an uber team while I wait for Hypershell...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on April 30, 2010, 07:36:44 AM
Yeah, I'd just like to take this moment to say [tornado fang] sand stream.

I should insist you play UU next time or somethin'. Nothing getting in the way of my rain.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on April 30, 2010, 07:42:11 AM
UU? That stands for underused, right? If I can barely fight you with my Standard, what makes you think I'll have any chance with the underused category?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 30, 2010, 07:43:40 AM
Because the Pokemon in UU are worse/not as great as the ones in OU or Ubers giving you a better chance?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on April 30, 2010, 07:45:17 AM
I see. Reverse psychology?  o~O
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on April 30, 2010, 07:52:22 AM
UU? That stands for underused, right? If I can barely fight you with my Standard, what makes you think I'll have any chance with the underused category?

Oh, I'm not talking about chances. It's just that TTar/Hippowdon/Abomasnow are all OU, so they wouldn't be allowed in. UU doesn't have any auto weather inducers, so no annoying annoying pokemon ruining my rain.


Wait, no Abomasnow's down to BL. But that's still enough to disqualify him, so...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on April 30, 2010, 07:57:13 AM
Heh. I see. I thought it was I could win, not because it annoyed you.  8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on April 30, 2010, 06:46:42 PM
Ok, here's my buddy code

SoulSilver- 1462 9053 7979
Yellow

I would like a few battles, most the time am around 7pm-8pm, I live in CA so ono if thatnmakes a differance.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on April 30, 2010, 11:25:11 PM
Hey, we both live in CA. Anyways, I'll take you on when you feel like it, but I'll try at 7PM, if that is better for you.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Harruhy on April 30, 2010, 11:38:46 PM
Oh man, did I miss people discussing capture button inputs?
You guys should go what I do.
A when the ball first closes, A every time it bounces, and you're good to go.

Think I'm lying?

ASK THE LEGENDARIES I CAUGHT WITH ONLY POKEBALLS.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on April 30, 2010, 11:54:45 PM
Thanks for the advice!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on May 01, 2010, 12:20:00 AM
Added Akamaru and Jericho to the list, umm,how do you change you character when playing online?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on May 01, 2010, 12:29:06 AM
It is called hacking or AR. Up to you if you want to try it.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: ZeroX on May 01, 2010, 12:42:13 AM
So people 62 Pokémon's left and my Pokédex is Complete ^^
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on May 01, 2010, 12:50:50 AM
Oohhhh, hack or AR, nevermind, cheating is not my thing unles its the only way to get certain pokemon up to that point.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: ZeroX on May 01, 2010, 12:55:31 AM
Oohhhh, hack or AR, nevermind, cheating is not my thing unles its the only way to get certain pokemon up to that point.

lol it's not cheated I got over 207 hours Playtime also about 50 Entry's at the Liga and I'm right playing just now and 58 Left ^^
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on May 01, 2010, 12:57:17 AM
lol it's not cheated I got over 207 hours Playtime also about 50 Entry's at the Liga and I'm right playing just now and 58 Left ^^
He is talking about having different character sprites during online play.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on May 01, 2010, 12:57:42 AM
XD, I am sorry, I ment to say that to Akamaru.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 01, 2010, 07:56:37 PM
And now, a special treat from the Sky Fish. Some of his favorite Pokémon names!

Quote
Meowth (ThatsRight)
Spinda (Pedobear)
Suicune (IceGerbil)
Lugia (Seagull)
Ho-oh (Chicken)
Ampharos (WoolyBully)
Goldeen (UseSplash)
Machop (Norris)
Cubone (Cuboner...I'm so clever)
Teddiursa (Godless)
Jynx (Creepy O..O)
Staryu (Patrick)
Tangela (HentaiBait)
Ponyta (Glue... shoulda named it Pwnyta)
Grimer (Grimes Jr... Simpsons reference FTW?)
Noctowl (Hooters... see Cuboner comment)
Lickilicky (Lick meee!)
Butterfree (Margarine... ba-dum pish!)
Farfetch'd (Absur'd)
Kingler (Mr. Krabs... why do I have two Spongebob refrences in one game?!)
Pachurisu (Poserchu.... what? He is!)
Hypno (Chocephant...well, he was)
 
And, my personal favorite
Raticate (RATATATATA)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: ZeroX on May 01, 2010, 08:54:52 PM
People I need your Help 5 F*** Pokémon left!


Nosepass(299), Mawile(303), Probopass (476), Gliscor (472) and Solrock (338)

PM me if you can trade one of them
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on May 02, 2010, 09:07:58 AM
Akamaru, winning by defalts sucks even more than losing, so I want a re-do altho I was sucking bad. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: ZeroX on May 02, 2010, 03:03:09 PM
It's Done! I got now Full Pokédex ^^
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on May 02, 2010, 05:52:24 PM
Someone is having a good day. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on May 02, 2010, 06:08:32 PM
Akamaru, winning by defalts sucks even more than losing, so I want a re-do altho I was sucking bad. XD
Whenever you want to, I'll be ready. Just message me if when you want the rematch.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 03, 2010, 12:44:11 PM
Down+B FTW indeed.

Anyways, SoulSilver is halted at Route 45, as HeartGold is grinding.
Hopefully to get to Red soon, or a good-natured Larvitar, whichever comes first. -_-
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 05, 2010, 12:40:55 AM
Okay my friend is going to hack my Sould Silver game with all the items I may of may not need and am going to start the process of getting and EV training the 9 pokemon I want, but I'm unsure about 1 of them.  I want to train a Metagross to be a physical attack shield like I would for my Roserade and Mamoswine, who are a special attack shield and a high HP meat shield respectivly. 

The problem is I don't know if I should teach the Metagross Rest or Magnet Rise, any suggestions?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on May 05, 2010, 03:06:23 AM
Depends on your Metagross. If its more defensive, then rest is ok, but you'd need to take up another slot for Sleep Talk so he won't be too defenseless. That or give him a berry that wakes him up immediately. Other than that, Magnet Rise is better.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 05, 2010, 03:10:50 AM
Right and since I don't want Sleep Talk, Magnet Rise would be the better choice.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on May 05, 2010, 03:17:26 AM
Rest is ok if you have a berry or item to wake him or or have the ability Early Bird. However, it takes up an item slot that could be more useful, like a Choice item or a stat affecting item like Lagging Tail (useless item unless its used for a strategy). Recover is better, but as far as I know, only legendaries and Psychics can get it.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 05, 2010, 03:21:30 AM
Yeah I would only use Lagging Tail for my Mamoswine since I'm going to teach it Avalanch although I'm already planning it to have a Brave Nature.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on May 05, 2010, 03:24:26 AM
Unless I use Trick Room, Lagging Tail is pretty unnecessary.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 05, 2010, 03:25:05 AM
Yep.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 05, 2010, 03:53:07 AM
Yeah I would only use Lagging Tail for my Mamoswine since I'm going to teach it Avalanch although I'm already planning it to have a Brave Nature.

Don't bother, Avalanche has -4 priority anyway.

I say you take Agility/another attack over Magnet Rise. Metagross is slow enough that a lot of the time you'll get outsped and Earthquaked before you can use it anyway.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: AquaTeamV3 on May 05, 2010, 11:30:11 PM
Yeah I would only use Lagging Tail for my Mamoswine since I'm going to teach it Avalanch although I'm already planning it to have a Brave Nature.

Curse is a far better option; Avalanche will more than likely be going last, so you may as well take advantage of it!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 06, 2010, 01:46:19 AM
Curse is a far better option; Avalanche will more than likely be going last, so you may as well take advantage of it!
As I said before I already plan for it to be very slow without a lagging tail and it's going to be my high HP meat sheild so I'm going to teach it Rest and give it Leftovers.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VirusChris on May 06, 2010, 06:56:48 AM
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Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 06, 2010, 09:54:08 AM
Quote
In The Games Department

Pokémon HeartGold & SoulSilver - Winner's Path Event

Nintendo have announced that the Winner's Path Pokéwalker course is to be given over WiFi for Pokémon HeartGold & SoulSilver from tomorrow, May 6th until June 25th 2010. This event will be available for America, Canada, Europe and Australasia. It has numerous Pokémon in it with moves they may not normally know such as a Zen Headbutt Beldum and a Self Destructing Munchlax

(http://i42.tinypic.com/219up91.jpg)
(http://i39.tinypic.com/33mmu11.jpg)


From Serebii.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 06, 2010, 10:03:43 AM
... Darn you. *shakes fist*
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 06, 2010, 10:06:21 AM
... Darn you. *shakes fist*

*you're too slow.jpg*
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 06, 2010, 10:06:38 AM
*you're too slow.jgp*
... HAHAHA
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 06, 2010, 10:07:24 AM
Hey, I don't even have HG yet; need a working DS first... oh woe.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 06, 2010, 10:08:20 AM
... HAHAHA

You're just mad cause you suck at posting info. >_>
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Waifu on May 06, 2010, 03:45:08 PM
Ditto has an evolved form?  o-O
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 06, 2010, 05:48:25 PM
I... I don't think so.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 06, 2010, 05:52:26 PM
Well, it's the moment of truth.
After catching all available Legendaries till now, I'm gonna challenge Red.
This should be exciting.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 06, 2010, 05:56:03 PM
I wish you luck.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 06, 2010, 06:29:06 PM
And it is done.
Man, it's just as awesome as I remembered...
Last battle was my Noctowl vs Red's Snorlax.
Noctowl's Fly cut Snorlax's HP to 1, Snorlax KO (2 KO really) Noctowl with Blizzard, and Hail KO Snorlax.
Man, that was awesome. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on May 06, 2010, 06:35:03 PM
(http://i42.tinypic.com/219up91.jpg)
(http://i39.tinypic.com/33mmu11.jpg)


From Serebii.

Magikarp..Bounce? I like this one, it can actually attack!  8B

However, I still need to get that Skill medal (I got the others, but this one's a tricky son-of-a-gun). After that, never again.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on May 06, 2010, 07:03:34 PM
Does anyone want a shiny gold Dragon Den lv9 Magikarp~? :3

You can, you know, unevolve it to lv100 and do things with it. ^^
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 06, 2010, 07:13:28 PM
OH! OH! I'd like it!
... Ack... I need Starbucks' wireless. ._.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 06, 2010, 07:20:17 PM
I'd take it... IF I HAD A DS AND HG! oh woe...

Why am I even posting in this topic?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 06, 2010, 07:33:16 PM
Does anyone want a shiny gold Dragon Den lv9 Magikarp~? :3

Hah, is it legit? Because if it is, wow. Talk about bad luck.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on May 06, 2010, 08:02:42 PM
I caught it~ <3

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/pokemonsoulsilvershinymagikarp.jpg) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/pokemonsoulsilvershinymagikarp.jpg)

Um, how is it bad luck? o.o;
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 06, 2010, 08:04:49 PM
Adamant even... *o*

I want it... *o*
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 06, 2010, 08:22:53 PM
I caught it~ <3

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/pokemonsoulsilvershinymagikarp.jpg) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/pokemonsoulsilvershinymagikarp.jpg)

Um, how is it bad luck? o.o;

Well, everyone with HG/SS can get a shiny Gyarados now. Imagine if you'd gotten a shiny Lugia or somethin' instead, that'd be pretty special. But hey, I guess two shiny Gyarados are better than one.

The IVs on it any good?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on May 06, 2010, 08:33:40 PM
Um I'm not really sure. ^^;;
How about this?

HP 24
Attack 7
Defense 16
Sp. Atk 7
Sp. Def 10
Speed 21

Oh and...

You can, you know, unevolve it to lv100 and do things with it. ^^

I'm gonna have to try and get a shiny Lugia, Ho-oh and/or Mewtwo then. >U<
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 06, 2010, 08:38:01 PM
I collect shinys... Can I have him? *o*

As for IVs...
Let's see...
Well, use this: http://www.serebii.net/games/iv-calcdp.shtml

I... Don't know how to read it. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 06, 2010, 08:40:29 PM
Well, shiny Magikarp does look a lot cooler than shiny Gyarados. Still seems kind of a waste though.

IVs don't look so good. Kinda difficult to tell with just level 9, but only 13 attack at best, and 26 speed. But what can y'do, huh? Still better than my 1 special attack modest Clamperl.

The full set is 16-26, 3-13, 13-23, 4-14, 16-26, 18-26, by the way. Special defence is either 26 or 21, if it's 21 no other stat will be higher. Can't get any more specific than that without knowing its stats at other levels. Though well you've probably calculated everything by yourself by now.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on May 07, 2010, 02:42:23 AM
Now that I think about it, Hypershell should have came back already. I was too sick to remember, though. Anyways...
I CHALLENGE YOU HYPERSHELL! I WANT REVENGE!

Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on May 07, 2010, 02:59:28 AM
I'm gonna have to try and get a shiny Lugia, Ho-oh and/or Mewtwo then. >U<

Never mind... it's not worth it. >.<

Even if I would find a legally-caught shiny legendary (either on the field or from events), thanks to the ways of internets and hacking, people won't believe it to be a legally-caught shiny, because many hackers like to make legendary Pokemon shiny with cheating or tools, and they get called cheaters.

That's not a good thing for someone who actually catches Pokemon legally. >^<
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on May 07, 2010, 03:02:24 AM
There are ways to to find real ones. Best way to find out is the location and level. While some are easy to cheat, like Mewtwo or Latios/Latias, others like Dialga, Palkia, and to some extent Groudon, Kgroye, and Rayquazza at the Embedded Tower. The level it was found is also a good indicator.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on May 07, 2010, 10:56:55 PM
Umm,so does anyone one here have a Mew or Celebi they wanna trade?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 08, 2010, 02:39:04 AM
Ugh I'm so insane, now I want to train 10 different pokemon. :|
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 08, 2010, 02:51:02 AM
Never mind... it's not worth it. >.<

Even if I would find a legally-caught shiny legendary (either on the field or from events), thanks to the ways of internets and hacking, people won't believe it to be a legally-caught shiny, because many hackers like to make legendary Pokemon shiny with cheating or tools, and they get called cheaters.

That's not a good thing for someone who actually catches Pokemon legally. >^<
Not to mention the chances of even getting one is roughly 1 in 8000 anyway, I mean my friend tried to get a shinky Kyogre and gave up after the first day.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on May 08, 2010, 04:48:08 AM
Yeaa, that's why I don't even bother with them shiny pokemon, being honest or not, your going to get told that you hacked, if you get a legit shiny, then its a bounus in my book.

EDIT:Ummmm, I thought ppl can't double post on this forum...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 08, 2010, 04:50:53 AM
What are you talking about? Double? What?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on May 08, 2010, 04:54:05 AM
What are you talking about? Double? What?
Double post. I didn't even know that was possible.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on May 08, 2010, 04:54:26 AM
What are you talking about? Double? What?
Double post. Sakura did it, probably by accident. Normally you can't double post, but some people forget sometimes or its a new page. Its not like you can't, but it isn't recommended. If you do it by accident, there is always the Double Merge button.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 08, 2010, 04:55:51 AM
Yeah, I usually hit Double Posts... and sometimes mods do it for you.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on May 08, 2010, 04:57:13 AM
Is the Johto league in Indigo Plateau?
I know that's where the Kanto league is, but I don't see a place where the Johto league might be.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on May 08, 2010, 05:15:54 AM
Good battle, TheOnly. I barely beat your team. I only had 2 more left...  -_-

By the way, what are your guy's teams? Do you have more than one?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on May 08, 2010, 05:28:52 AM
Man, I did some major mess ups from that battle from not knowing the types, still kindda new to this still BUT, I did WAY better then the last battle, eather way it was fun, do this some other time. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on May 08, 2010, 05:31:38 AM
Is the Johto league in Indigo Plateau?
I know that's where the Kanto league is, but I don't see a place where the Johto league might be.

Jhoto Leauge =/= Kanto Leauge.

They share the same Indigo Plateau, because both of the regions are basically linked together, making it one of the largest regions in the Pokemon series in my book.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on May 08, 2010, 05:32:02 AM
I can't remember types for the life of me. Think about it. Ice is resistant is Grass, but I kept going at it with Solarbeam. Only reason your pokemon died was because I had EV trained mine Sp. Attack.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on May 08, 2010, 05:39:13 AM
Ice is resistant is Grass
Ice is resistant to Ice and Ice only. Grass does normal damage.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 08, 2010, 05:39:28 AM
Ice doesn't resist grass. Resists Ice, weak to Fire/Fighting/Steel/Rock. That's it.

By the way, what are your guy's teams? Do you have more than one?

Got an OU one which was made mostly by picking pokemon at random, so it's pretty bad. You don't really wanna see it.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 08, 2010, 05:39:42 AM
Jhoto Leauge =/= Kanto Leauge.

They share the same Indigo Plateau, because both of the regions are basically linked together, making it one of the largest regions in the Pokemon series in my book.

There is no Johto League or Kanto League, they're both one and the same, how else do you explain Lance, Bruno, and Koga who are from Kanto?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on May 08, 2010, 05:40:43 AM
There is no Johto League or Kanto League, they're both one and the same, how else do you explain Lance, Bruno, and Koga who are from Kanto?
So why don't they share the same Elite Four?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on May 08, 2010, 05:42:17 AM
Ice is resistant to Ice and Ice only. Grass does normal damage.
Ice doesn't resist grass. Resists Ice, weak to Fire/Fighting/Steel/Rock. That's it.
That's my Solaris...  8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 08, 2010, 06:10:06 AM
So why don't they share the same Elite Four?

They do, Lance and Bruno are there aren't they? Lorelei and Agatha both must've gone somewhere else and we all know what happened later with Red and Blue/Green.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 08, 2010, 06:48:32 AM
Double post. Sakura did it, probably by accident. Normally you can't double post, but some people forget sometimes or its a new page. Its not like you can't, but it isn't recommended. If you do it by accident, there is always the Double Merge button.
Oops sorry 'bout that.  Well after about 6 or so Absols I finally got the right one.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on May 08, 2010, 04:41:44 PM
Yeaa, that's why I don't even bother with them shiny pokemon, being honest or not, your going to get told that you hacked, if you get a legit shiny, then its a bounus in my book.
If you have only one people will admire you; it's when half your team is shiny that they start raising eyebrows.

Also, there's no legitimate way to "rig" a shiny legendary, so if by some chance you do manage to get one, the odds of it being of proper Nature/IVs are astronomically bad.  It'd be like going into battle with a Hidden Power Ice Raikou. 
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 08, 2010, 04:54:41 PM
I'm sure the latter is easier to do legitimately these days because of RNG manipulating and how you can get legendaries to respawn now though.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 08, 2010, 04:56:46 PM
*Looks at his legit team of shinies on Emerald*
... They are legit! O^O
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on May 08, 2010, 06:24:18 PM
And it is done.
Man, it's just as awesome as I remembered...
Last battle was my Noctowl vs Red's Snorlax.
Noctowl's Fly cut Snorlax's HP to 1, Snorlax KO (2 KO really) Noctowl with Blizzard, and Hail KO Snorlax.
Man, that was awesome. XD

I'm just curious, what level were your Pokemon at? I'm still two badges away from being able to challenge Red in HG (I transferred all my Lv. 100s from DPPt to SS) But I'm working at getting my team up to Lv. 75 before I even think of challenging him.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on May 08, 2010, 06:36:40 PM
I beat him at around level 50-60-ish

it's not that hard
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on May 09, 2010, 03:33:38 AM
Most of my team is now above Lv. 70 so I'm in good shape now.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 09, 2010, 06:05:30 AM
I'm just curious, what level were your Pokemon at? I'm still two badges away from being able to challenge Red in HG (I transferred all my Lv. 100s from DPPt to SS) But I'm working at getting my team up to Lv. 75 before I even think of challenging him.
Oh, they are all lvl90. 8D

I just like to be fully prepared. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 09, 2010, 06:11:54 AM
Oh, they are all lvl90. 8D

I just like to be fully prepared. XD
I want to try what my friend Will did, EV train my pokemon and fight him in my 60s.  

You know there was a swarm of Ralts today and yet I couldn't find one Calm Ralts with Sychronize, but I did find a nice Adament male one that I'm going to train and a female Modest one I'm considering for a Gardevoir.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on May 09, 2010, 08:03:09 AM
Oh, they are all lvl90. 8D

I just like to be fully prepared. XD
Thats overly prepared... o~O Wait, no I CHALLENGE YOU!

I also challenge Hypershell, but he seems uninterested...  :'(
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 09, 2010, 08:08:23 AM
I would love to, but I need a wireless connection.
And currently, that's at Starbucks. -u-'
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on May 09, 2010, 08:10:19 AM
I would love to, but I need a wireless connection.
And currently, that's at Starbucks. -u-'
NOOOOO!

Back to training my second team, then.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on May 09, 2010, 04:04:39 PM
I also challenge Hypershell, but he seems uninterested...  :'(
(http://home.comcast.net/~Anguirus/holdit.gif)
I'm still taking care of odds and ends around my new home, not to mention catching up with all that went down on the internet during my absence, so I do apologize if a few posts have slipped past my attention.

You want it, you got it.

(now I'm just debating whether I want to change team members...)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 09, 2010, 04:12:41 PM
Well, I've switched back to playing Soul Silver again.
Just caught Lugia.
One Dusk Ball.
... Why can't everyone be as easy as that!?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on May 09, 2010, 04:16:40 PM
I dunno.  I caught Lugia in my first Heavy Ball, myself.  Quite surprising.

Ho-oh, on the other hand, was a royal pain.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 09, 2010, 04:23:59 PM
Ho-Oh in my Heart Gold took 5 Dusk Balls.
Soul Silver's rigged. >_>
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on May 09, 2010, 05:11:30 PM
Oh, they are all lvl90. 8D

I just like to be fully prepared. XD

Where did you train? I'm running the gauntlet with the Elite Four but that's getting a bit tedious though I'm getting rich doing so. I might just pull out my Pro Action Replay soon...

Yes. I am an unrepentant cheater but that hasn't stopped many opponents from handing me my posterior anyways.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 09, 2010, 05:16:07 PM
Well, I trained to lvl80 under the normal E4 (getting 7 Kanto badges without defeating Blue).
Occasional gym leader rebattles, and trainer battles help too.

Then, defeat Blue, and grind under the evolved E4 till lvl90.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 09, 2010, 09:33:09 PM
I dunno.  I caught Lugia in my first Heavy Ball, myself.  Quite surprising.

Ho-oh, on the other hand, was a royal pain.
I think it took only about 5 ultra balls for me when I did it the second time, because I forgot to save, and I had lv 30 pokemon. :\
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on May 09, 2010, 09:58:01 PM
OK, anyone here want to help my bro out with a Cyndaquil? Also Hypershell, mind doing a battle with me? It's not my Pokemon or even my movesets, but hey, I want to see how I'll fare. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 09, 2010, 09:58:26 PM
Help how?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Harruhy on May 09, 2010, 10:00:15 PM
Breed one, trade it to him. I think.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on May 09, 2010, 10:00:53 PM
With a trade really. I don't know, I'm just the lackey mooching off his cart and doing negotiations with RPM. XD

EDIT: What Harruhy said.

Name your conditions and we'll try to match it. Also, I wouldn't mind battling anyone here, not just Hypershell.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 09, 2010, 10:01:58 PM
Speaking of grinding, am I the only one that thinks that even strong pokemon give way too little experience without a lucky egg or exp. share? Or am I just feeling that way because of my obssesion of keeping my whole party with balanced levels? -u-'
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 09, 2010, 10:03:45 PM
I would since I have a few extra Cyndaquils but I don't think you would have what I want and I don't knw what I want.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Harruhy on May 09, 2010, 10:05:11 PM
I HAVE A GREAT IDEA JERICHO

I'LL BREED ONE

AND TRADE YOU IT

FOR A RATTATA
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 09, 2010, 10:05:46 PM
A Rattata?!

WHAT A STEAL
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 09, 2010, 10:06:43 PM
A Rattata?!

WHAT A STEAL
THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD BE BETTER IS A MAGIKARP. 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Harruhy on May 09, 2010, 10:08:01 PM
Hell no.

Magikarp aren't in the TOP PERCENTAGE.

Also Jericho, yes I am serious.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 09, 2010, 10:08:57 PM
Why a Ratata?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 09, 2010, 10:09:19 PM
RIVAL HARRY WANTS TO TRADE 8U
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Harruhy on May 09, 2010, 10:12:00 PM
Why a Ratata?

Because Rattata are in the top percentage. And I'll call all of you guys to tell you about how awesome it is.

RIVAL HARRY WANTS TO TRADE 8U

[insert Rival music here]
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 09, 2010, 10:12:46 PM
Top percentage?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on May 09, 2010, 10:14:27 PM
Hell no.

Magikarp aren't in the TOP PERCENTAGE.

Also Jericho, yes I am serious.

My brother is in here LOLing like nuts over this. Deal. XD

EDIT: Where's/What's your FC?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on May 09, 2010, 10:14:49 PM
Because Rattata are in the top percentage. And I'll call all of you guys to tell you about how awesome it is.
(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/7572/1273051339101.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 09, 2010, 10:16:06 PM
Oh god I hate when that kid calls about his stupid Rattata.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 09, 2010, 10:16:16 PM
Top percentage?

That "FEAR" [parasitic bomb]?

(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/7572/1273051339101.jpg)

LMAO
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Harruhy on May 09, 2010, 10:17:43 PM
That "FEAR" [parasitic bomb]?

You gay, boy? None of that FEAR garbage. Tail whip ONLY.

GOD TIER.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 09, 2010, 10:18:31 PM
You gay, boy? None of that FEAR garbage. Tail whip ONLY.

GOD TIER.

Nah [shadow runner]. :v

Tail whip ONLY?!

UR A FUCKIN' MAD MAN
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on May 09, 2010, 10:21:40 PM
Any time now... XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Harruhy on May 09, 2010, 10:22:48 PM
One sec, my Typloshion doesn't want to insert it quite yet it appears.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on May 09, 2010, 10:23:52 PM
Ohhhh. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Harruhy on May 09, 2010, 10:27:18 PM
DAMN IT, HAVE SEX ALREADY YOU HOOLIGANS
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 09, 2010, 10:28:59 PM
...

I already have a hatched Cyndaquil...

>_>

<_<
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on May 09, 2010, 10:29:47 PM
...I just hatched one.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Harruhy on May 09, 2010, 10:31:09 PM
CLEARLY MY TYPLOSHION HAS ERECTILE DYSFUNCTION
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 09, 2010, 10:31:49 PM
CLEARLY MY TYPLOSHION HAS ERECTILE DYSFUNCTION

VIAGRA... FOR POKéMON
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on May 09, 2010, 10:32:33 PM
...

I already have a hatched Cyndaquil...

>_>

<_<

Somehow I doubt you want a Rattata.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Harruhy on May 09, 2010, 10:34:11 PM
Somehow I doubt you want a Rattata.

It wouldn't surprise me if he did.

FINALLY GOT AN EGG
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 09, 2010, 10:35:57 PM
Somehow I doubt you want a Rattata.
It wouldn't surprise me if he did.

...8D

FINALLY GOT AN EGG

Took your Typhlosion [tornado fang]ing forever. >_>
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Harruhy on May 09, 2010, 10:36:33 PM
What do you think I am, made out of money? I can't afford PokéViagra.

Also, Jericho, does your bro want any specific name for it? Or can you still nickname it if I don't?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on May 09, 2010, 10:41:33 PM
No nicknames. Also leave your FC here. I thought I had it in his Pal Pad.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Harruhy on May 09, 2010, 10:43:46 PM
Alrighty. I'll post it after the damn thing hatches.

EDIT: FC: 1548 7381 9040

GOOD TO GO.

Need your bro's FC though.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on May 09, 2010, 10:54:36 PM
4297 5603 0391. I'll go wait in one of the trade lobbies now.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Harruhy on May 09, 2010, 10:55:56 PM
I have no idea what your bro's name is, so I named him Derp.

EDIT: WOAH [chameleon sting]er BACK IT UP

LEVEL FOUR? THIS IS TOO POWERFUL D:
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on May 09, 2010, 11:02:03 PM
Awesome. 8)

Now then, anyone want to battle? 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on May 10, 2010, 04:14:21 AM
I can when ever you want to.  owob

Posted on: May 09, 2010, 05:09:59 PM
Can someone do me a favor and trade my Seadra and then trade it back? I want a Kingdra for my team. I got a couple of extra Lucky Eggs if anyone wants to do it for a price.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on May 11, 2010, 12:15:31 AM
anyone have an adamant self destruct munchlax? because i want one
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 11, 2010, 02:13:38 AM
Okay so I was hatching some Torchics trying to get a Adamant natured one and I had 4 eggs.  The first 2 didn't have the right nature and the 4th was Adamant but what about the third?

[spoiler](http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/sakuraleic/0510001644.jpg)
And it had better stats than the 4th.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on May 11, 2010, 02:19:42 AM
Nice battle, 'maru.  I was lucky you had a lot of Water/Ice weaknesses, because I forgot to set my proper team before entering. :|  The DRAGONITE POWER that I had sic you was actually the wrong one. 
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on May 11, 2010, 02:28:39 AM
*Cough*

Wrong one?  You should have warned me there would be Ubers...I had no chance, yet was able to take down two at least. 8D

Anyways, It was a good match. I'll finish my Ubers, so that I can play against you equally! Anyways, does anyone have time for the trade back. Still want to evolve my Sedra...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on May 11, 2010, 02:55:59 AM
I use *ONE* Uber, 'Maru.  If you'd have warned me that you weren't using any, I'd have been willing to bench him.  And if I hadn't forgotten to bring a particular teammate along, you wouldn't have gotten Lapras out of there, either. >U<

That's why I like the console battling style.  You view your opponent's team first and select your order accordingly.  Going in blind, as on the handhelds, you have no idea which 'mans you'd want to save for later.  Generally I would prefer to not open with an Uber, but Palkia and Lapras form a pretty reliable combination.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on May 11, 2010, 03:11:16 AM
Sorry, keep on forgetting one of the members you brought out is not uber.  '>.> Doesn't matter though since I wouldn't doubt that if you had brought out the missing one, I would have lost horribly.

GAH! 3 weeks of training those pokemon and I lost. MY REVENGE! WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME!?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 11, 2010, 08:55:34 AM
Wrong one?  You should have warned me there would be Ubers...I had no chance, yet was able to take down two at least. 8D

Says the guy who used Ttar and Dragonite against a UU team.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 11, 2010, 03:47:19 PM
Okay so I was hatching some Torchics trying to get a Adamant natured one and I had 4 eggs.  The first 2 didn't have the right nature and the 4th was Adamant but what about the third?

[spoiler](http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/sakuraleic/0510001644.jpg)
And it had better stats than the 4th.[/spoiler]
FFFFFFFFFFFF A BREEDED SHINY
I'M IN TOTAL ENVY HERE *o*

EDIT: Forgot to post my final team that took care of the E4 on Soul Silver.
Lvl50 Meganium (M, Bashful)
Lvl50 Noctowl (M, Modest)
Lvl50 Golem (F, Serious)
Lvl51 Ampharos (M, Hardy)
Lvl51 Gyarados (M, Hardy)
Lvl51 Ninetales (F, Timid)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Legendary on May 11, 2010, 05:22:30 PM
Well, my team is mostly ready. I just need a Stone Edge if anybody's willing to spare.

...Or a male Donphan with Stone Edge.

Also, anybody want a quick battle?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 11, 2010, 05:45:48 PM
FFFFFFFFFFFF A BREEDED SHINY
I'M IN TOTAL ENVY HERE *o*

EDIT: Forgot to post my final team that took care of the E4 on Soul Silver.
Lvl50 Meganium (M, Bashful)
Lvl50 Noctowl (M, Modest)
Lvl50 Golem (F, Serious)
Lvl51 Ampharos (M, Hardy)
Lvl51 Gyarados (M, Hardy)
Lvl51 Ninetales (F, Timid)

Wow, did you grind a lot or am I just not grinding enough? Those are close to my levels and I already have all 16 badges XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 11, 2010, 05:48:28 PM
I just like to be fully prepared before tackling something. XD
Though I lax'd a bit in Soul Silver.
But will be grinding them all to lvl60 before heading to Kanto.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 11, 2010, 05:51:33 PM
Quick question, if a pokemon with a lucky egg wins a battle, does the pokemon with exp. share also get the boost in experience?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 11, 2010, 05:52:32 PM
Nope.
Just the one holding it.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on May 11, 2010, 11:53:42 PM
Says the guy who used Ttar and Dragonite against a UU team.
In my defense, I have no excuses. Although, you usually win, so it doesn't really matter.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on May 12, 2010, 12:33:27 AM
I don't know how relevant this anecdote is to the theme of this thread, but I thought I would tell it anyway. For the past hour on Pokemon Battle Pokemon, every trainer I battled randomly had at least two legendaries on their team and one of the was ALWAYS a Mewtwo. Since I normally disdain the use of Ubers, I use OU Pokemon most and my battling skills leave much to be desired. Anyway, the last person I came across had an all-Ubers team so I thought I would be a jerk for the heck of it knowing that I'd lose.

So I used my Vaporeon/Metagross team for the "Protect and Explode" tactic which failed against the foe's Giratina and Ho-oh. Metagross faints taking most of Ho-oh's HP, I switch Vaporeon with Togekiss and call out Gengar knowing who Giratina was planning to hit with Shadow Force (Gengar, obviously). So moments before Shadow Force actually hits, I turn off the Wii and walk away with spiteful glee knowing that at least I lost on my own terms, and knowing said n00b was probably going to call in Mewtwo anyway.

So I have to ask: am I a horrible person?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Legendary on May 12, 2010, 12:39:15 AM
It's not really like you lost on your own terms. I mean you coulda just ran away from the fight. =/
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on May 12, 2010, 12:40:56 AM
But where's the fun in that?  >0<
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Legendary on May 12, 2010, 12:55:28 AM
I suppose we all have had some of our least proudest moments.

For example, Stone Edge missing and costing me an otherwise won match. 9 TIMES IN ONE NIGHT. After it missed a Gardevoir and the match was pretty much lost I just turned my Wii off cuz it was dinnertime anyway.

Honestly, why are all Rock-moves so crappish? Rock Throw is fail, Rock Slide is weak and the flinchrate doesn't kick in nearly as much as it should, Stone Edge isn't so much inaccurate as it just seems to have a mind of its own, somehow only missing at the absolute worst moment possible. And only so many PokeMon get Head Smash. Still only so many PokeMon can actually use the move without inadvertently killing themselves (Yeah Rampardos, way to have a signature move you can never use. Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant). Seems the best Rock-type attack is Stealth Rock... -_-
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gotham Ranger on May 12, 2010, 07:55:32 AM
Someone do me a favor and explain this EV/IV [parasitic bomb] and Nature [parasitic bomb] to me in terms that I can understand and why it is so important.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 12, 2010, 09:15:53 AM
I believe Serebii.net can do a way better job at that for EVs (http://www.serebii.net/games/evs.shtml)/IVs (http://www.serebii.net/games/ivs.shtml). XD

As for natures, it's a lot more simple.
There are 25 natures in total, 5 of which are the neutral ones (Bashful, Docile, Hardy, Quirky and Serious).
These 5 have no extra effects on the stats you are gonna get on a Pokemon.

The other 20 natures however, will affect one stat positively, and another stat negatively.
That is to say, when a Pokemon with one of the 20 natures... Say Adamant, levels up. By it's nature, it's Attack stat will grow faster than normal, while it's Special Attack stat will grow slower than normal (normal as in terms of the 5 neutral natures).

The list is as follows:
[spoiler=The 20 natures...]Lonely: +Att, -Def
Adamant: +Att, -Sp. Att
Naughty: +Att, -Sp. Def
Brave: +Att, -Spd

Bold: +Def, -Att
Impish: +Def, -Sp. Att
Lax: +Def, -Sp. Def
Relaxed: +Def, -Spd

Modest: +Sp. Att, -Att
Mild: +Sp. Att, -Def
Rash: +Sp. Att, -Sp. Def
Quiet: +Sp. Att, -Spd

Calm: +Sp. Def, -Att
Gentle: +Sp. Def, -Def
Careful: +Sp. Def, -Sp. Att
Sassy: +Sp. Def, -Spd

Timid: +Spd, -Att
Hasty: +Spd, -Def
Jolly: +Spd, -Sp. Att
Naive: +Spd, -Sp. Def[/spoiler]

Natures are important if you want specific kinds of Pokemon.
For example, you know Machamp has a great Attack stat, and you want to further improve on that Attack stat, so Adamant (+Att, -Sp. Att) will be a great choice since Machamp usually won't be using Special moves.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on May 12, 2010, 09:18:04 AM
Um... Aren't there 5 neutral natures?
I didn't read the entire post, nevermind.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 12, 2010, 09:36:03 AM
Someone do me a favor and explain this EV/IV [parasitic bomb] and Nature [parasitic bomb] to me in terms that I can understand and why it is so important.

EVs are basically a second type of experience, just for stats instead of levels. Kill something and get 4 attack EVs, your attack permanently goes up by one. Kill enough things to get 252 attack EVs, your attack goes up by a total of 63. Just you've got a cap of 510 EVs overall, and you're only allowed 252 in a specific stat, so you can't max out everything. So an Alakazam who's been grinding away at the right things will probably have 252 special attack and 252 speed, whereas one that just picks fights at random will probably have his EVs spread among every stat he's got. Chances are that Alakazam will benefit from having a higher speed over having higher HP or whatever, so that's why they're important.
IVs are just slightly random stats on pokemon. Every pokemon species has base stat totals that you can easily look up, then they get a random bonus of 0-31 points, generated when you first see them. Sometimes it's important, sometimes it isn't. Alakazam from before doesn't care about physical attacks, so no issues even if his attack IV is 0. But speed or something, that can really matter. If he faces another Alakazam, and the only difference is their speed IV, then it basically decides who's faster, and who's gonna hit the other guy in the face with a Shadow Ball first.

So yeah EVs = experience, but for stats instead of levels. IVs = preset bonuses to stats. That's it.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gotham Ranger on May 12, 2010, 10:50:44 AM
Ah, okay. That makes alot more sense and makes it even more complicated than I ever imagined for pokemon.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 12, 2010, 02:55:25 PM
Speaking of IVs, my legendaries got some really bad luck with IVs. All of them have some quite bad IVs, Zapdos is the only one with decent ones and yet he gets like <5 IVs in everything defensive =/
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Legendary on May 12, 2010, 11:15:33 PM
I find it hilariously ironic that pretty much everybody who plays PokeMon competitively shoots for the same individual values, 31s all around.

If everybody's going for 31 IVs in Speed and whatever attacking/defending stat(s) your PokeMon uses, then where's the individuality?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 12, 2010, 11:25:47 PM
Speaking of IVs, my legendaries got some really bad luck with IVs. All of them have some quite bad IVs, Zapdos is the only one with decent ones and yet he gets like <5 IVs in everything defensive =/
Yeah some of my pokemons IV so far are weird too.  Most of them are attack, which is great except for my Modest Budew. The Calm Budew, Modest female Ralts, and Adamant Beldum all have HP boosting IVs.  And apparently my shiny Adamant Torchic is the only one with a 'relatively superior' IV stat in Special Attack acoording to that dude in the Battle Tower.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 12, 2010, 11:48:01 PM
I find it hilariously ironic that pretty much everybody who plays PokeMon competitively shoots for the same individual values, 31s all around.

If everybody's going for 31 IVs in Speed and whatever attacking/defending stat(s) your PokeMon uses, then where's the individuality?

There are better ways to be an individual. Different team composition, different movesets, different EV spreads, different items, they all do a better job than having a suboptimal set of randomly generated numbers.

You're one of those guys who takes skill focus in basket weaving, eh?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 12, 2010, 11:49:22 PM
There are better ways to be an individual. Different team composition, different movesets, different EV spreads, different items, they all do a better job than having a suboptimal set of randomly generated numbers.

You're one of those guys who takes skill focus in basket weaving, eh?
Yeah that's why I'm going to EV train 2 Budews and 2 Beldums to compare thier stats.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 12, 2010, 11:50:52 PM
Why not just figure out what spread you want, and only train one of each? Seems like a lot less effort.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 12, 2010, 11:57:44 PM
Hmm maybe you're right, the Special Defense stat of the Roserade differs very much, I guess I'll train the Calm one first.  But if I do that I'll only have 2 pokemon purely focused on being Special Sweepers, Lucario and Gardevoir.

Now the Metagross situation is very complicated to me, it seems it would be better for it to have higher defense so it can stand up to another's Explosion. 
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 13, 2010, 12:15:52 AM
So what was your team again? I'm thinkin' you're not using tiers, so it's probably just pokemon you like, but I can at least make some recommendations.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 13, 2010, 12:31:01 AM
The 10 I want to use are Blaziken, Roserade, Gardevoir, Gallade, Lucario, Mammoswine, Absol, Feraligater, Metagross, and Salamance.  All of them except for Roserade, Lucario, and Gardevoir are Physical attackers.  

But I want to turn Metagross and Mammoswine into defense tanks since Metagross has high Defense and Mammoswine has high HP, although I'm not sure that's a good plan since Mammoswine has low Defense and Special Defense.  I was thinking of turning Roserade into a Special attack tank but that means I would have to sacrifice speed which means it's wouldn't be a special sweeper, but then again I guess that won't really matter since I'm going to teach it Synthesis rather than Calm mind.

I'm also trying to compete with Will Gallent, you know the guy with the Eevees on EV steroids, but now he has a new team.  I forgot most of them but I know he has a Absol, Garchomp, and a super powerful Metagross with Explosion.  That Metagross is only a partial tank so that means if I turn my Metagross into a tank it might stand up to his Explosion but since it has higher attack and probably speed, I think that's basicly what his team is really all about since he said he has no tanks, I might be severly damaged by an Earthquake before I get a chance to use Magnet Rise.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on May 13, 2010, 12:56:09 AM
But I want to turn Metagross and Mammoswine into defense tanks since Metagross has high Defense and Mammoswine has high HP, although I'm not sure that's a good plan since Mammoswine has low Defense and Special Defense.

I personally would not recommend it because Mamoswine's high attack makes it a better physical sweeper.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 13, 2010, 12:57:28 AM
So I should focus and attack and speed like the other physical attackers?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 13, 2010, 12:59:30 AM
Don't think of 10 pokemon. You can't play 10v10. Just focus on putting together a team of 6 for now, and make sure they work together. It's deeper than just specific roles for each pokemon, you've really gotta think about it. You mentioned Mamoswine/Metagross/Roserade on the defence, and maybe they could work, but if you look, every single one of them is weak to fire. Bad. Look at how your team is put together, so you can avoid stuff like that. Think about what threatens each individual pokemon you've got, and then look at the rest of your guys and see what you've got that can counter it. Y'see how I beat Akamaru twice, even though all my pokemon are UU? That's 'cause my team works together, and his doesn't. Your pokemon aren't working alone, they're working together. Either you put together a team that really works together, or you're gonna lose. And that's that.

tldr SYNERGY SYNERGY SYNERGY


(also swear at him until he stops using garchomp. garchomp is just bullshit.)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 13, 2010, 01:08:15 AM
I see that's something I forgot to consider, and what's all the UU and UO stuff that you and Hypershell talk about when regarding Garchomp and other pokemon?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 13, 2010, 01:11:43 AM
Over Used
BorderLine
Under Used
Never Used
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 13, 2010, 01:13:28 AM
Okay so with the pokemon I have what are they?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 13, 2010, 01:14:38 AM
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 13, 2010, 01:19:00 AM
Huh I thought most of them would be overused but I guess most are under used too.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 13, 2010, 01:19:22 AM
I see that's something I forgot to consider, and what's all the UU and UO stuff that you and Hypershell talk about when regarding Garchomp and other pokemon?

Tiering. Y'know how some pokemon are great, and others aren't? Like Dragonite and Altaria. Dragonite has great stats, and a good movepool. Altaria is worse at pretty much everything. So, if you give people the choice, everyone is gonna use Dragonite over Altaria, 'cause why wouldn't you? Doing otherwise is just handicapping yourself. The solution is to put them in different tiers. Really great pokemon have the uber tier, where everyone plays with uber pokemon. OU pokemon are still good, but they're worse, so they have their tier where people don't use ubers, because it's unfair. UU are even worse, so they get a tier where OU and uber pokemon are banned, so everyone can still use Altaria without Dragonite making him look bad.

Obviously nothing forces people to play with bans on tiers, but it can still be a good way to gauge pokemon power. You look up Altaria, notice it's UU, so it's not that good. Dragonite, OU, probably a better pokemon. Garchomp, uber, very good pokemon. There are arguments over where pokemon deserve to be placed, of course, but still, it's generally reliable.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Legendary on May 13, 2010, 01:21:43 AM
It doesn't really matter. OU matches allow PokeMon from all tiers up to OU, so you can play with all of them, technically.

That's assuming you're playing by tiers tho.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 13, 2010, 01:22:22 AM
Eh I would probably use UU pokemon even if I knew about tiers before to show how great they can be.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 13, 2010, 02:04:42 AM
Some are completely outmatched by others that can do what they do but better no matter how hard you try though. Hell, for example, no matter how good your strategy may be or how much effort you put into breeding it there is just no way you'll ever be able to make Luvdisc anything even 10000km close to passable. (Ok, that's NU but you get the point)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on May 13, 2010, 02:07:30 AM
Well, I've been trying to play 'catch up' and am now at the Lake of Rage and trying to catch to Red Gyrados. Which Pokeball should I use?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 13, 2010, 02:09:08 AM
Some are completely outmatched by others that can do what they do but better no matter how hard you try though. Hell, for example, no matter how good your strategy may be or how much effort you put into breeding it there is just no way you'll ever be able to make Luvdisc anything even 10000km close to passable. (Ok, that's NU but you get the point)
Yeah that's true, I'll never use a pokemon that helpless.  Another thing that site's move set generator is so weird.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on May 13, 2010, 04:16:01 AM
Akamaru, battle in 30mins if you somehow get this by then. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on May 13, 2010, 07:08:08 AM
Umm... I just got it.  8D

I can do it now if you want.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 13, 2010, 08:56:20 AM
Well, I've been trying to play 'catch up' and am now at the Lake of Rage and trying to catch to Red Gyrados. Which Pokeball should I use?
Personally...
I like to wait until after 8pm, and throw Dusk Balls. 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Legendary on May 13, 2010, 02:01:36 PM
Well, I've been trying to play 'catch up' and am now at the Lake of Rage and trying to catch to Red Gyrados. Which Pokeball should I use?

Ultra Balls are generally all purpose, but try Net Balls or Dusk Balls (nighttime). If you have Black Apricots, Heavy Balls are nice too.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on May 14, 2010, 03:35:32 AM
Akamaru, amma be online around 7.30 or so, so yea.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on May 14, 2010, 03:40:38 AM
Alright. I'll be online at that time. :d

EDIT: Wow... That was way too close for my comfort. I beat you by only two things: My new member of the team had Hydro Pump and I guess right in bringing out Outrage at that time. If not, your Fire & Dragon pokemon would have brought me down so fast and easily...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on May 14, 2010, 07:26:01 AM
I didnt know Salamance can learn hydro pump, and I got luck with a few of them critical hits as well. But other hen that, daaang, still have work to do. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 14, 2010, 07:46:27 AM
Well, it seems Akamaru has been breeding Hydro Pump on Salamence... *makes note*
(Yes, Bagon learns Hydro Pump through breeding.)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on May 14, 2010, 07:52:35 AM
Well, it seems Akamaru has been breeding Hydro Pump on Salamence... *makes note*
(Yes, Bagon learns Hydro Pump through breeding.)
No! Damn! My poke rival learned a trump card of mine!  >w<

God knows how long it took me to do this. The right nature, transfer the right IV, and have the move Hydro Pump. I breed so many of them, that I am so sick of breeding.  O:<
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on May 14, 2010, 04:29:34 PM
That was like a slap to the face with the white glove. -.-"
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 15, 2010, 12:42:28 AM
Okay I finally reduced my team to six pokemon and have nick names and moves for all of the them.

Feraligatr: Posiedon
Nature: Adamant
Moves: Aqua Tail, Crunch, Earthquake, Swords Dance
Item: Not decided

Absol: Artemis
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Super Luck
Moves: Nightslash, Psycho Cut, X-Scisor, Swords Dance
Item: Focus Lens

Blaziken: Vulcan
Nature: Adamant
Moves: Sky Uppercut, Blaze kick, Shadow Claw, Earthquake
Item: Expert Belt

Lucario: Fenrir
Nature: Modest
Moves: Dark Pulse, Aura Sphere, Calm Mind, Psychic
Item: Not decided

Roserade: Demeter
Nature: Calm
Ability: Poison Point
Moves: Synthesis, Energy Ball, Shadow Ball, Sludge Bomb
Item: Leftovers, Black Sludge, or Shell Bell.

Salamence: Bahamut
Nature: Adamant
Moves: Fly, Dragon Claw, Earth Quake, Dragon Dance
Item: Not decided

So what do you guys think and do you have tips on items, moves or stuff like that?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on May 15, 2010, 01:59:27 AM
Gotta run for Smallville, Sakura, but I promise I'll take a look at your team later.

Says the guy who used Ttar and Dragonite against a UU team.
In all honesty, I truly feel that Single Battling tiers mean jack in Doubles.  Case in point: Wobuffet.  Further case in point: I may have taken an Uber against 'maru, but it was paired with an NU.

My usual team is literally all over the tier list, consisting of one Uber, one OU (DRAGONITE POWER, naturally), one BL, two UU's, and one NU.  When I fought 'maru I was missing a UU, but then he only saw half of my usual team members anyway.  The fourth 'man to finish him off was my in-game Dragonite, who I brought along by mistake.

So I have to ask: am I a horrible person?
Yes.  Because if you're actually a good Double battler, bringing down an all-Uber team is pretty simple.  They're usually assembled by people who have no clue what they're doing and as such relatively simple to beat.  I once brought down a Dialga by having Rotom para-fusion it to death.

Of course, this is coming from somebody who will bring snakers in Mario Kart DS into a Battle course and wait for them to do something that crashes their game, so I don't know how much my word means to you.

The two-Uber teams you're seeing now are probably a result of people prepping for Nintendo's latest tournament.  That's their new limit, although they still outright ban the promotionals.  Of course, their definition of "Uber" is a little narrower than Smogon's.  IE: Latios is legal as long as you're not carrying Soul Dew.

Honestly, why are all Rock-moves so crappish?
Yet another reason I take Smogon with a grain of salt; they regard Stone Edge as a stable of physical attackers.  As far as good Rock moves go, Power Gem's decent, but it's not available to many 'mans.

I find it hilariously ironic that pretty much everybody who plays PokeMon competitively shoots for the same individual values, 31s all around.

If everybody's going for 31 IVs in Speed and whatever attacking/defending stat(s) your PokeMon uses, then where's the individuality?
I find it funnier that Nintendo enforces no law of averages with IVs.  Everyone claims that a 'man with 3 or 4 31's was probably hacked, but I know for a fact that does not work in reverse, because I once caught a 'man with *FOUR* 0's, and the remaining IVs in single digits.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 15, 2010, 02:00:24 AM
Okay thanks Hypershell.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on May 15, 2010, 02:01:01 AM
What I notice is that most of your pokemon are that they are power hitters with the right natures, but weak on the defensive side. In other words, you have to hit first or chances are, your pokemon will be One Hit KO. An example is that all my members of my team are 250 SPD or faster. If your team doesn't have anyone as fast, you're going to regret it.

I would recommend Choice items like Choice Scarf. It will increase a stat by 50% at the cost of only using 1 move. An example is my level 20 Gengar has 60 SPD. if I give it Choice Scarf, it will increase its SPD by 30 points, for a total of 90. But like I said, the cost is that you can only use one move and with a weak-ish pokemon on the defense, its going to be hard.

That's all I can say. There is also the regular items like Life Orb that 1.3x your attacks for 10% of your health or Expert Belt, which will increase Super Effective moves by 20%. These would be better for you, since I notice that a lot of your pokemon has Calm Mind or Swords Dance.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 15, 2010, 02:09:16 AM
Hmm I see, that would be a good idea since the only real speed hitter I got would be Salamence while most of the others, theoretically since I have started training them yet, only barely hit it.  I need Will to give me the Power Items, and TMs after I fight the elite 4 for massive amounts of cash to buy Vitamins.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on May 15, 2010, 02:26:02 AM
Oh yea, forgot to mention. Get rid of Fly for your Salamence. With the extra turn you give by going up, I can switch my pokemon for another one that has a resistance to Flying. That or my pokemon gets stronger by putting up a weather effect like Rain or Bulk Up. For the Salamence's case, replace it with another attack like Stone Edge or maybe a Sp. Att. move like Flamethrower/Fire Blast or Draco Meter. Do so with any other pokemon that you may have that has Dive or Dig.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 15, 2010, 02:28:24 AM
Okay I'll replace it with Flamethrower.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 15, 2010, 02:29:19 AM
Absol: Artemis
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Super Luck
Moves: Nightslash, Psycho Cut, X-Scisor, Swords Dance
Item: Focus Lens

No Sucker Punch? Absol's speed is mediocre you know =/
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 15, 2010, 02:33:51 AM
Hmm maybe that would be a better subsitute.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 15, 2010, 02:36:17 AM
Sword danced Sucker Punches are great for sweeping, although I guess it could get predictable and the other person would start using stat up moves until you run out of PP.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 15, 2010, 02:37:57 AM
Hmm would my team be a bit better if I replaced one with a Metagross?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on May 15, 2010, 02:45:18 AM
Depends. TheOnly's Metagross is the hardest for me to defeat. Since 2 members of my team are Dragon, the Steel typing is really hard to defeat. And oh god, his Bullet Punch... The move took down two other of my pokemon. However, since there are a lot of Fire moves, you team could be taken down due to too much Fire weakness. Good thing your team doesn't have that, so if anything, it could replace Roserade since both have the same weakness in that regards.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 15, 2010, 02:48:27 AM
I see, so how about a Impish Natured one with Meteor Mash, Zen Headbutt, Earthquake and Agility?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on May 15, 2010, 02:59:57 AM
Sounds good. Not sure about Agility. Even with a beneficial Nature and 31 IV in speed, its speed will only reach up to about 260, so with Impish Nature, it won't be able to reach that or be fast enough in general. Why don't you go like the mentioned Bullet Punch, which always strikes first and has a STAB or Reflect or Light Screen to up your defense? Although, if you go for the defense moves, you might wanna consider Rest. You should know the benefits and risks with that move.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 15, 2010, 03:02:00 AM
Hmm yeah I guess Reflect would be a good choice.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on May 15, 2010, 04:38:21 AM
Metagross is a force to be reckoned with, but I'd think twice before using Rest.  These days the game is just too offensive to risk sleeping for two turns.  It's also setup bait if you don't have Sleep Talk (and even if you do, there's a 1/3 chance Sleep Talk will choose Rest and do nothing anyway).

Well, as promised, Sakura, here are my thoughts on your team members:

Feraligatr:
Nice, although you'll need an opponent reasonably slow to get the jump on them.  I would HIGHLY recommend axing Crunch for Ice Punch (Platinum/HG/SS Move Tutor).  You have plenty of Ghost/Dark attacks in your team already and no Ice attacks.  Feraligatr isn't really fast enough to get the jump on a Dragon, but it's still nice coverage against Flying and makes Grass think twice before trying to set up.

Absol:
Super Luck, nice.  Sucker Punch, as previously suggested, is a great idea since it'll compensate against faster opponents, and Absol has the attack strength and STAB to use it exceptionally well.  I'm not sure how much good Psycho Cut will do you; Absol's defenses are poor and his speed not impressive; he should not be staying in battle against a Fighting type.  Ever.  For the same reason Swords Dance's usefulness is a bit limited; you need to be darn sure that it's safe to power-up (on the other hand, Sucker Punch when you know an attack is coming and Swords Dance when you know one isn't could work well).  I would also seriously consider Superpower (Plat/HG/SS Move Tutor), as it'll prevent Absol from being completely walled by a Steel type.

Blaziken:
If you're not running any non-attacking moves, Blaziken may be a good candidate for a Choice item.  Your team consists mostly of medium-speed heavy hitters, so you might want a Choice Scarf here to mix things up.  Blaziken could work great as a revenge killer (be aware, with Adamant and not Jolly, there is the off chance that some of the exceptionally fast Pokemon, if also having a Speed boosting Nature, may outrun you anyway; this includes Jolteon, Aerodactyl, Crobat, and Mewtwo).  Consider Flare Blitz/Brave Bird; I know recoil is a concern, but that level of power and accuracy can be well worth it.

Lucario:
Plenty of room to experiment here, since there's a lot that Lucario can do.  Since you're going the special route, Vacuum Wave, Dragon Pulse, and Flash Cannon are all alternatives you might want to consider.  Calm Mind is great, but I'd consider axing Psychic.  Lucario is completely immune to Poison, and if stuck against a Fighting type, you'd be better off switching to Salamence than pushing a bad position.  Also, with plenty of resistances and Calm Mind to boost Special Defense, Leftovers may be a good choice for an item.

Roserade:
Sleep Powder is definitely worth considering, since it gives you something for Roserade to do against virtually anyone (barring Insomnia and Lum Berry), and can make a nice opportunity for setup.  Your ideal item from your choices is Black Sludge; Shell Bell's healing is inferior and Black Sludge will make your enemy think twice before using Trick (this is uncommon but it can REALLY screw you over if the user is holding something bad).

Salamence:
As said, ditch Fly.  Outrage/Fire Blast/Earthquake/Dragon Dance Salamence is pretty much standard, but it is devastating nonetheless.  You're basically running that with two substitutions for reliability over power.  Dragon Claw over Outrage avoids leaving you locked in exchange for only 2/3 the power.  IMHO Outrage is well worth it but it's up to you.  Flamethrower over Fire Blast is accurate, but since you're investing in physical power and lack STAB, you really could use Fire Blast's extra strength.  And 85% accuracy is better than most of the other power moves, so it is worth considering.  I'd certainly understand if you don't want to risk a miss, but even with a weakness on your side, Flamethrower may take a good couple of hits to bring down some of the bulky Pokemon like Bronzong.  For an item I'd go with an attack booster like Dragon Fang, Muscle Band, or if you can risk the recoil, Life Orb (common item in "standard" play, but I personally would not recommend it since Salamence is defensively valuable to your other team members, like Absol and Lucario).

Overall:
As mentioned earlier you could use some work-arounds for your Speed issues.  Priority moves, Thunder Wave support, Choice Scarfing, that kind of thing.  Your team is overall very straightforward attacking.  The stat-ups are nice but some status annoyers could help you.  You have no attacks of either Electric or Ice, both key offensive types, and an over-abundance of Dark/Ghost attacks, which besides their affect on Normal and Fighting are otherwise identical.  You really do not need 5 of your 6 Pokemon to all be carrying attacks geared towards the same two types of opponents.  On the plus side, Lucario and Salamence have some great synergy, being able to cover each other's weaknesses.  In fact, you're pretty good on type variance as a whole, although something to resist Electric (to cover Feraligator) and/or Flying (to cover Roserade and Blaziken) attacks might be helpful.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 15, 2010, 05:12:40 AM
Hmm yeah those are some very great suggestions Hypershell. I was very worried about the fact that I had no Ice attacks, Electric not so much since it's only really effective against flying and water type pokemon which Ice and Grass can take care of most them.  If I come across a Ice/Water type I'll use a Fighting type and I'm pretty sure I won't fight a Gyarados or Pelipper anytime soon if ever.  Though I'll also be experimenting with other pokemon eventually and will be sure to teach Gardevior Thunder Bolt or Thunder.

I didn't really consider Rest for Metagross since it's not right for a pokemon with so much power to be sleeping...except for a Mammoswine with a Chesto Berry I guess.  Plus I need it to counter Will's Metagross since it has Explosion instead of Magnet Rise.  Plus frying it with Blaziken and Salamance should give me an edge though his team is built for mostly speed.

His team consists of Jolteon, Espeon, Absol, Tyranitar, Metagross and the dreaded Garchomp which he named Katsu, which is the japanese word for victory according to him.  I'm guessing my team might stand no chance against them especially if you didn't give me those move chance suggestions.

The other 4 pokemon I was considering besides those 6 were Metagross, Gallade, Gardevoir and Mammoswine.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on May 15, 2010, 05:57:06 AM
*sigh*, Akamaru, I didn't expect that Charizard to bust a foucus blast on me, after that blow, I sorttaknew I was gonna lose. XD . Other then that, good battle.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on May 15, 2010, 06:39:33 AM
What surprised me is you bringing out 4 new pokemons on me. Truth be told, I just taught my Charizard that move today. I was having trouble with Steel types lately that I decided to have a few Fight moves. Sucks that I still don't think I can defeat Hypershell yet... However, I aim to please and surprise. I Am going to need new trained pokemon soon or your going to memorize all my team's moves.  >3<
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 15, 2010, 10:41:35 AM
His team consists of Jolteon, Espeon, Absol, Tyranitar, Metagross and the dreaded Garchomp which he named Katsu, which is the japanese word for victory according to him.

lol google translate

Also yeah your team is slow as hell and half of them will probably get killed in one hit. Priority/Scarves everywhere = super good idea. And switch SD to DD on Feraligatr. Or swap him for a Gyarados, Gyarados is way cooler anyway.

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The other 4 pokemon I was considering besides those 6 were Metagross, Gallade, Gardevoir and Mammoswine.

You actually might wanna use Mamoswine, tbh. Just so you can ruin To Win the Garchomp. Ice Shard, hoooooo.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on May 15, 2010, 02:57:33 PM
Indeed, Mamoswine is one of the best users of Ice Shard; I would seriously consider him for breaking a Dragon-type's attempt at sweeping.  He'd also be pretty valuable against Will's team, from what I can see.  His 'mans are quite formidable, but he has three Ground weaknesses and nothing that resists it.

If I come across a Ice/Water type I'll use a Fighting type and I'm pretty sure I won't fight a Gyarados or Pelipper anytime soon if ever.
Well, I guess you know your demograph better than anyone, but on the internet, Gyarados is relatively common.  He has a wide move pool including a physical STAB, Dragon Dance, and Earthquake, so he can be quite deadly.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on May 15, 2010, 06:03:33 PM
I sorta have a good number of trained pokemon so you might see me swicth it up everytime.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 15, 2010, 08:18:28 PM
lol google translate

Also yeah your team is slow as hell and half of them will probably get killed in one hit. Priority/Scarves everywhere = super good idea. And switch SD to DD on Feraligatr. Or swap him for a Gyarados, Gyarados is way cooler anyway.

You actually might wanna use Mamoswine, tbh. Just so you can ruin To Win the Garchomp. Ice Shard, hoooooo.
Uh SD, DD?  What does that mean?

Indeed, Mamoswine is one of the best users of Ice Shard; I would seriously consider him for breaking a Dragon-type's attempt at sweeping.  He'd also be pretty valuable against Will's team, from what I can see.  His 'mans are quite formidable, but he has three Ground weaknesses and nothing that resists it.

Well, I guess you know your demograph better than anyone, but on the internet, Gyarados is relatively common.  He has a wide move pool including a physical STAB, Dragon Dance, and Earthquake, so he can be quite deadly.
Hmm yeah I'll try to think of a speedy Electric type to go against that.  By the way if I do go with Mammoswine who should he replace?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 15, 2010, 09:30:04 PM
SD is Swords Dance, DD is Dragon Dance. I figure Feraligatr is slow enough that even if he does get an SD off, he could very well get killed the next turn before he can move. DD helps fix that speed problem right up. He'll do less damage, obviously, but it's probably better to do less damage than to do none because you went down before you could do anything.

I say dump Absol for Mamoswine, but the decision's up to you of course. Absol's job is basically to have a nice attack stat and to use priority moves, and Mamoswine does that too. Just Mamoswine is faster, has a better type on his priority, and has a better movepool.

(You really shoulda been able to work out SD on your own, by the way. Not like there are a lot of moves on your Feraligatr that have the letters S and D in them, are there?)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: AquaTeamV3 on May 15, 2010, 10:17:25 PM
Speaking of Mamoswine, I actually managed to finally beat Red yesterday using my L77 Mamo.  I was able to Curse 6 times in front of his Pikachu (Snow Cloak + Iron Tail lol) and use 3 X Sp Def (Lapras & Blastoise insurance), and at that point everything on his team was going down with an Ice Shard or an Earthquake.  8)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 15, 2010, 11:33:56 PM
(You really shoulda been able to work out SD on your own, by the way. Not like there are a lot of moves on your Feraligatr that have the letters S and D in them, are there?)
I didn't think you were talking about moves.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on May 16, 2010, 06:17:54 AM
I want revenge Hypershell! Up for a battle?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on May 16, 2010, 06:39:04 AM
Alright, but make it quick.  It's late, and I'm ready to sleep.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on May 16, 2010, 06:43:27 AM
Alright. I'll be right online. Use the same team you used last time if you want.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on May 16, 2010, 06:44:23 AM
Good, because I have only those six for my SS cart.  :P  I need to make more trades before I can do any substitutions.

EDITS: And Palkia never got off the bench.  Now you know my real DRAGONITE POWER!!! 8)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on May 16, 2010, 06:57:00 AM
Gah... Can't believe it, but I have no choice but to. I gotta try that move that ups Attack that you used... What I didn't expect is Explosion. Screwed me over right from the start.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on May 16, 2010, 07:07:36 AM
Oh, I have PLENTY of ways to screw someone over; three different pairings in my team to make solid leads.  Too bad for you, because I see what you were trying to do, rigging an anti-lead to my Palkia/Lapras opener.

In all fairness I have had good luck when it comes to screwing you over on turn 1.  Tyranitar/Dragonite is a pretty lousy situation to be in against my Palkia/Lapras combo.  So you rigged for that and it quite literally blew up in your face.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on May 16, 2010, 07:14:35 AM
...  8)

I thought it was a pretty good one myself. However, I never thought in 2v2, the pokemon leading should be covering weaknesses or that there are moves to increase the power of the partner pokmon. Time to go make a 2v2 team then using what I already have... I go numb at the thought of breeding and raising any more pokemon than the 8 I have.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gotham Ranger on May 16, 2010, 07:15:46 AM
...  8)

I thought it was a pretty good one myself. However, I never thought in 2v2, the pokemon leading should be covering weaknesses or that there are moves to increase the power of the partner pokmon. Time to go make a 2v2 team then using what I already have... I go numb at the thought of breeding and raising any more pokemon than the 8 I have.
Action Replay.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on May 16, 2010, 07:19:28 AM
Action Replay.
Solves the catching part, but not in finding the right natures or certain moves. An example is breeding Hydro Pump into my Salamence. Nor does it solve the EV training part.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gotham Ranger on May 16, 2010, 07:22:36 AM
Solves the catching part, but not in finding the right natures or certain moves. An example is breeding Hydro Pump into my Salamence. Nor does it solve the EV training part.
That's probably why I'll never battle any of you, then. I really could not care less about the EV Training or Breeding. I find it too tedious for what will amount to a handful of battles before a new game/gen surfaces. That's only my opinion, though. Shame, I'd love to battle people.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on May 16, 2010, 07:27:27 AM
I could do that to: just bring out 6 level 100 pokemon with Master balls. I lost horribly for the next few days. Horribly...  ;^;

I only started doing it now because that is the only way I'll ever beat Hypershell... Even then, I still lost.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 16, 2010, 07:41:56 AM
Solves the catching part, but not in finding the right natures or certain moves. An example is breeding Hydro Pump into my Salamence. Nor does it solve the EV training part.

Pokesav?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gotham Ranger on May 16, 2010, 07:46:01 AM
Pokesav?
What is this
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 16, 2010, 07:48:01 AM
If I understand correcty, create pokemon with whatever stats and moves you want that you can then import to your game with AR or now by exploiting the GTS.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gotham Ranger on May 16, 2010, 07:48:47 AM
..I like this option.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on May 16, 2010, 08:27:02 AM
In all fairness I have had good luck when it comes to screwing you over on turn 1.  Tyranitar/Dragonite is a pretty lousy situation to be in against my Palkia/Lapras combo.  So you rigged for that and it quite literally blew up in your face.
Huh? Didn't use a TTar... I thought the Heracross/Latios combo would take out Lapras or Palkia. Depends where you use the Shard. Both of mine are faster so that once Lapras attacks, I can take out one of them. From there just wing it.
Pokesav?
Morals and ethics. I feel bad using something like this cause it cheapens the game, the oppenents time in effort and training their pokemon (if they did train them... B( ), and the the effort and satisfaction of winning with hard work of training your own.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gotham Ranger on May 16, 2010, 08:30:31 AM
Morals and ethics. I feel bad using something like this cause it cheapens the game, the oppenents time in effort and training their pokemon (if they did train them... B( ), and the the effort and satisfaction of winning with hard work of training your own.
I would find comfort in knowing I would only make Pokemon capable of holding their own, not over powered beasts of "jesus christ what".

I'd also bother levelling them from scratch whenever I could. I mean, I honestly don't have the time or patience to do all that, I just wanna battle with some friends in non serious games, but when so many people go through all that trouble, I gotta take a shortcut :P
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 16, 2010, 08:33:07 AM
Morals and ethics. I feel bad using something like this cause it cheapens the game, the oppenents time in effort and training their pokemon (if they did train them... B( ), and the the effort and satisfaction of winning with hard work of training your own.
Seriously Akamaru.
This speech here makes me want to fight you so much now.
Though I know I will lose. Very badly too. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on May 16, 2010, 08:45:32 AM
Seriously Akamaru.
This speech here makes me want to fight you so much now.
Though I know I will lose. Very badly too. XD
Gar. You are one of the other people I want to fight also. Not sure about my pokemon battles. I have a tendency to guess types wrong and have general bad luck in my fights... I don't win unless I see the "You Won" sign in my face.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on May 16, 2010, 08:51:03 AM
HEY AKA I WANNA FIGHT YOU BUT I DON'T GOT NO WI-FI

SO CAN I FIGHT YOU ON SHODDY OR SOMETHING?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on May 16, 2010, 08:57:59 AM
I'll check it out when I'm actually awake. From the gist I'm getting, it sounds interestingly easy.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 16, 2010, 08:58:49 AM
IT WORKS REAL GOOD TOO

And that's why I said I'll lose badly. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on May 16, 2010, 09:08:10 AM
Morals and ehnics, Akamaru, you sortta sound like me when it comes to Pokemon battles. Anyhow how about a remacth on Monday around the same time? Also, it would be chill if I could battle other ppl, except HyperShell, if I can't beat Akamaru then there's no chance I beat HyperShell.......
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 16, 2010, 10:37:43 AM
Morals and ethics. I feel bad using something like this cause it cheapens the game, the oppenents time in effort and training their pokemon (if they did train them... B( ), and the the effort and satisfaction of winning with hard work of training your own.

They still came up with their team, and they still won because they know how to use them. What's the difference? Is hatching like fifty eggs to get one with good IVs that important to you that you're against people skipping it?

Morals and ehnics, Akamaru, you sortta sound like me when it comes to Pokemon battles. Anyhow how about a remacth on Monday around the same time? Also, it would be chill if I could battle other ppl, except HyperShell, if I can't beat Akamaru then there's no chance I beat HyperShell.......

I'll play you if we happen to be on at the same time.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Legendary on May 16, 2010, 01:40:40 PM
General consensus sez there's not really much to come up with nowadays. Apparently if Scizor, Salamence, and/or Metagross aren't somewhere on your team then standard says you're doing it wrong.

On the topic of PokeSaving/ARing, there are PokeMon with certain XD-only moves that you may want to try (Baton Passing Lunatone, for example). Why waste extra money when you can just stick the move on the PokeMon for free? =o
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on May 16, 2010, 03:57:53 PM
Huh? Didn't use a TTar...
I meant our first battle.

Quote
I thought the Heracross/Latios combo would take out Lapras or Palkia.
They probably would have.  I sincerely doubt Ice Shard would 1HKO on only a 2x weakness.  But Latios' Dragon Pulse will, and he and his sister are the fastest of Dragons.  No Dragon trainer worth their foot will engage Latios without something to boost Speed in their favor. Had I thrown Palkia/Lapras against them, I'd have probably switched to Steelix/Rotom anyway.

They still came up with their team, and they still won because they know how to use them. What's the difference? Is hatching like fifty eggs to get one with good IVs that important to you that you're against people skipping it?
I personally don't mind Pokesav as long as it's used responsibly.  No hacking max IVs, Hidden Powers, or whatever.  But in terms of EV training (which is nothing but grinding against the appropriate opponent w/ appropriate item; I did it the long way in Diamond's earlier days) and attacks (TM limits mainly; breeding Egg Moves is simple enough), it's very handy.  The tremendous amount of time it takes to ordinarily prepare, and the gamble it is to use a non-buyable TM if you change your mind, make experimenting in-game extremely difficult.

That being said, Shoddy has introduced a mentality where people simply punch in all the invisible numbers they want without regard to practicality.  Max IVs everywhere and Hidden Power as the be-all end-all to special type variance.  That, I do not appreciate.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on May 16, 2010, 05:12:38 PM
What's your buddie code Tickle Buffalo?

You know, maybe I should use my code as a "s i g" that way I don't have to repost it everytime....
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on May 16, 2010, 06:13:02 PM
May I direct your attention here (http://forum.rockmanpm.com/index.php?topic=130.0)?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 16, 2010, 07:46:25 PM
What's your buddie code Tickle Buffalo?

2277-4598-3685

I notice you're on, and I'm pretty certain I am, so you want a battle now? Or should we leave it until later?

(Seems you don't!)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on May 17, 2010, 12:10:45 AM
They still came up with their team, and they still won because they know how to use them. What's the difference? Is hatching like fifty eggs to get one with good IVs that important to you that you're against people skipping it?
I said I don't like using them. Don't really care if others do, but I walk with a better feeling if I beat them.

Using Serebii's IV Calculater, I was able to upload all my pokemon onto with accurate stats onto Shoddy. Battle them that way, you battle my actual DS Pokemon. So if anyone wants to try me, just tell me.
Morals and ehnics, Akamaru, you sortta sound like me when it comes to Pokemon battles. Anyhow how about a remacth on Monday around the same time?
You got it. We'll do 2v2 to switch things around.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on May 17, 2010, 03:05:44 AM
2277-4598-3685

I notice you're on, and I'm pretty certain I am, so you want a battle now? Or should we leave it until later?

(Seems you don't!)

1462 9053 7979

and am sortta not done with the pokemon am training as well so I'll let you know.


You got it. We'll do 2v2 to switch things around.

By then I'll have mi team ready witch is why I wanna do it on monday.

May I direct your attention here (http://forum.rockmanpm.com/index.php?topic=130.0)?

Thanks, I'll do that

Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 18, 2010, 07:59:07 PM
Does anyone have an extra lv100 pokemon with Pickup they don't need anymore?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 18, 2010, 10:26:46 PM
Level 81-90 ones are better than 91-100, to be honest. You can get Earthquake TMs everywhere. Can you get Focus Punch/Grass Knot TMs everywhere? No you can't.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on May 20, 2010, 05:27:47 AM
Talk about luck. If it weren't for the critical, my Dragonite would have gone on a Dragon Dance induced Outrage. But alas, it was not meant to be. Plus, that Garchomp came from left field. Oh well, I was going to lose sometimes...  :\
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on May 20, 2010, 05:28:01 AM
YES!!! AFTER LOSING 5000 TIMES I BEAT YOU AKAMARU!!11.....for a minute I thought I was gonna lose D:
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on May 20, 2010, 05:30:11 AM
You were going to win eventually. I'm using the same pokemon with the same moves... Maybe I should use AR to at least entertain you more.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on May 20, 2010, 05:38:54 AM
I royally suck at them too, but since it was 2 on 2, I already had a staragity planed out but I didn't expect the Salamance to start out.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on May 20, 2010, 05:40:54 AM
Covering my bases. He was out as bait. What you should have been more worried was the Heracross. You guys attack Salamence while my Heracross comes in and rips your weakness out. If my Rider is still alive, then he cleans up what's left.  8)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on May 20, 2010, 05:51:01 AM
Dragons is my main concern on my list when it comes to battling vs you,as you can see, Salamance, then focused on Dragonite, and that Charizard with solarbeam, those 3 are the main ones that rly beats me up. So yea, didn't expect to win, but I won :). I started rolling on the floor when sandstorm killed off the remaing HP on you pokemon. I also thought that Draco Meter Was gonna kill off my Tyranitar too. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on May 20, 2010, 05:55:59 AM
3 pokemon would have lived, including my Dragonite. Like I have mentioned before: I have really sucky luck.  -u-'

Good match, I had fun.  ~w~
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 20, 2010, 10:33:09 PM
Has anyone tried this battle simulator?

http://www.pokemon-online.eu/
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on May 21, 2010, 06:50:02 AM
I imagine its something like this? maybe?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkDhClTwmdg
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 21, 2010, 07:29:31 PM
So, could anyone lend me their Groudon from the Embedded Tower so that I can catch Rayquaza? It's the only legendary I'm missing =(

Speaking of legendaries, Kyogre sure was easy to catch, only one dusk ball. Latias was quite easy to capture and find too, Raikou and Entei however...is Entei glitched or something? He would sometimes just disappear from the Pokegear =/

Oh, and was I the only one that found fighting Mewtwo completely anti-climatic?

Me: Well, here's Mewtwo, one of the strongest pokemon ever, this is gonna be a hard fight...
*battle starts and Mewtwo proceeds to only use Defense Swap and Attack Swap*
Me:...couldn't they have at least given him Recover and Psychic?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on May 21, 2010, 09:09:27 PM
Can I borrow your Kyoger? Cuze I have the Groudon and need the Rayquaza as well.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 21, 2010, 09:10:54 PM
Sure, but who'll go for Rayquaza first?

Let me go get my FC.

EDIT: 1892 3486 0446
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on May 21, 2010, 09:21:07 PM
It rly don't matter rly.

The only issue is that am not home till 7 to 8pm since am at work.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 21, 2010, 09:22:10 PM
Oh, what timezone though? Anyways, just post here when you're ready.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on May 21, 2010, 09:37:24 PM
I live in So. California, so yea. From 7pm to 8pm I should be online.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 22, 2010, 05:47:32 AM
So are you ready yet?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on May 22, 2010, 06:02:07 AM
YES! GIVE ME A MIN!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 22, 2010, 06:05:11 AM
Ok, I'll get the green orb and then trade trade you back Groudon and Kyogre.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on May 22, 2010, 06:09:13 AM
We can do that another day, I have other things I need to atend to now, I'll let you know when I can do the trade once more.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 22, 2010, 06:09:33 AM
Ok, got the Jade Orb. It's your turn now.

EDIT:Oh, guess I'll see you later then.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 22, 2010, 08:09:13 AM
So, could anyone lend me their Groudon from the Embedded Tower so that I can catch Rayquaza? It's the only legendary I'm missing =(

Speaking of legendaries, Kyogre sure was easy to catch, only one dusk ball. Latias was quite easy to capture and find too, Raikou and Entei however...is Entei glitched or something? He would sometimes just disappear from the Pokegear =/

Oh, and was I the only one that found fighting Mewtwo completely anti-climatic?

Me: Well, here's Mewtwo, one of the strongest pokemon ever, this is gonna be a hard fight...
*battle starts and Mewtwo proceeds to only use Defense Swap and Attack Swap*
Me:...couldn't they have at least given him Recover and Psychic?
Freaking Kyogre and his freaking Aqua Ring. I may have Heal Block, but goddarn Aqua Ring.
And he took like 15 Dusk Balls to catch for me. >_>

Also, I don't think Entei "disappeared" on your Pokegear.
His muggie was hiding behind Raikou's. XD

Also, DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF POWER SWAP AND GAURD SWAP
Well... As a wild Pokemon battle, that is.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on May 22, 2010, 09:14:09 AM
Also, DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF POWER SWAP AND GAURD SWAP
Well... As a wild Pokemon battle, that is.

I think if they added Mewtwo's old moves, it would be total hell, it always did when I battle it.

Freaking Kyogre and his freaking Aqua Ring. I may have Heal Block, but goddarn Aqua Ring.
And he took like 15 Dusk Balls to catch for me. >_>

Sounds like you had one hell of a ride there buddie. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 22, 2010, 05:45:43 PM
Freaking Kyogre and his freaking Aqua Ring. I may have Heal Block, but goddarn Aqua Ring.
And he took like 15 Dusk Balls to catch for me. >_>

Pfft, I just caught Articuno and he literally took like 40 Dusk Balls, 15 is nothing >_>
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 22, 2010, 05:50:14 PM
Hmm... No sleeping-inducing moves?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 22, 2010, 05:51:08 PM
Even with sleeping, and then he killed Gengar >_>
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 22, 2010, 05:55:36 PM
...
Well, I'd like to share a tactic that I recently discovered while trying to catch legendaries.

Sleep mode on the DS.
When you want to throw your ball, close your DS, and let it go into hibernation mode.
Then wait about 5-15 minutes.
After that, flip your DS back open, and throw your ball.
It works! D:

If not, when you throw your ball, don't look at your DS AT ALL.
Watch TV, do something else, just don't look at your DS.
You'll be amazed.
I sure did. D:
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Harruhy on May 22, 2010, 06:50:58 PM
Pffft, using anything other than a Pokéball. >_>

Well, I'd like to share a tactic that I recently discovered while trying to catch legendaries.

I used to do both of those a while ago.

I stopped because neither worked anymore after the first time. >_>
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 22, 2010, 06:58:49 PM
Hehe, I seem to have a streak with it then.
It always works in both my HG and SS.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on May 22, 2010, 07:06:52 PM
Pffft, using anything other than a Pokéball. >_>
Well, then, I'll be over here enjoying my Dusk Ball visual effects.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Legendary on May 22, 2010, 11:01:41 PM
5457 1622 0897

Friend Code, quite bored, want to test out my team. 5/6th complete. Anybody interested?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on May 23, 2010, 12:43:14 AM
Funny, geting them legendaries was cake, if anyone have me a hard time, then it was Mewtwo, and I didn't even need to use sleep, ono about you guys but they a little more easy to get when awake then sleeping.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on May 23, 2010, 02:27:21 AM
5457 1622 0897

Friend Code, quite bored, want to test out my team. 5/6th complete. Anybody interested?
Message me if you want to battle. I'm not always logged onto RPM and Yahoo notifies me when I get a message.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: X-3 on May 23, 2010, 05:48:26 AM
Hah, fighting Mewtwo is hilariously repetitive if your Pokeballs keep failing. POWER SWAP, GUARD SWAP, AMNESIA, AMNESIA, POWER SWAP, GUARD SWAP, PSYCHO C-NOPE POWER SWAP, GUARD SWAP, POWER SWAP, AMNESIA, PSYCHO CUT.

...yeah, I don't think I'm good at this game. Also I need more Pokemon that can put things to sleep. ;O;
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 23, 2010, 05:49:39 AM
Wait seriously, the only attacking move Mewtwo has is Psycho Cut?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 23, 2010, 05:50:35 AM
POWER SWAP, GUARD SWAP, AMNESIA, AMNESIA, POWER SWAP, GUARD SWAP, PSYCHO C-NOPE POWER SWAP, GUARD SWAP, POWER SWAP, AMNESIA, PSYCHO CUT.

[parasitic bomb] was so 8D

Wait seriously, the only attacking move Mewtwo has is Psycho Cut?

Yes.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 23, 2010, 05:52:11 AM
[parasitic bomb] was so 8D

Yes.
Wow, just wow. -AC
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: X-3 on May 23, 2010, 06:01:29 AM
Thus, it can raise it's Special Defense to it's max, give it all to you with Guard Swap...and then start beating on you with a Physical move. It'll do this multiple times to multiple Pokemon, depending on whether or not you suck. Truly, a worthy opponent.

edit: oh, and I just found out it doesn't learn Psychic until a level later. This all seems...planned? On the plus side, I caught him. Hooray.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 23, 2010, 06:05:17 AM
Thus, it can raise it's Special Defense to it's max, give it all to you with Guard Swap...and then start beating on you with a Physical move. It'll do this multiple times to multiple Pokemon, depending on whether or not you suck. Truly, a worthy opponent.
I guess at least it doesn't have a recovery move to annoy you with.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on May 23, 2010, 04:44:55 PM
Well...they sure made him benevolent.

I still say Mewtwo needs Rocket Armor.  I mean, Latios/Latias have their broken item, so why not something to restore Mewtwo's special defense to its former greatness?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Legendary on May 25, 2010, 02:04:03 PM
They could just give him Calm Mind and Psychic, but I somehow doubt GameFreak wanted you to consider using your 1 Master Ball on so many PokeMon (Lousy friggin' roamers).

Not like I'm complaining. It's going to just rot in my box until somebody offers me a TM for it anyway. Same with every Uber/legendary I own, except for myself, who cannot sit in a box.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on May 27, 2010, 07:01:29 AM
Well... You have a large Fighting weakness, Legendary. Both battles were fun!  :W
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Legendary on May 27, 2010, 06:16:51 PM
It's not so much a Fighting weakness as I lack things to stuff Close Combats with.

Which was just poor planning on my part. Good games to you. Let's do it again sometime. I have a replacement in mind.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on May 27, 2010, 06:47:40 PM
Ever since I beat Akamaru I spend less time with my DS. XD

And Taiyo, is it possible to do the trade around the same time as last time?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 27, 2010, 11:47:02 PM
Sure no problem.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on May 28, 2010, 12:50:26 AM
Ever since I beat Akamaru I spend less time with my DS. XD
...

What am I? Defeat the ultimate boss and you're done?  ~w~
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on May 28, 2010, 12:58:59 AM
Alrighty then.

EDIT: AM ONLINE!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gotham Ranger on May 28, 2010, 06:46:12 AM
...

What am I? Defeat the ultimate boss and you're done?  ~w~
Please enter your initials!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: nobody on May 28, 2010, 07:37:46 AM
I got Soul Silver since Silver was the game I had back then, but I haven't played much of it.

I guess I'm just not into Pokemon as much as I used to be.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on May 28, 2010, 05:51:33 PM
Your not the ultimate boss but made me think about what kind of pokemon I should use..
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 29, 2010, 12:44:28 AM
Okay due to the fact that I had too many fire weaknesses on my previous team, (Roserade, Mammoswine, and Lucario), I decided to change it slightly. 

Now it'll be Feraligatr, Blaziken, Mammoswine, Salamance, Metagross, and Gardevoir.

Now I need some advice on the Gardevior since I'm training a Modest one with Special Attack and Special Defense in mind with Thunder Bolt, Shadow Ball, Psychic, and Light Screen.

Also I want to ask what kind item I should give my Metagross when I'm not fighting Will since I'm going to give it a Chilan berry just so it could survive Explosion after I use Light Screen to make it hurt a hell of a lot less.  I think this might be a good strategy.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gotham Ranger on May 29, 2010, 03:26:10 AM
Now that I've beat FireRed I can finally get into HeartGold, yay! Now to build towards my Quilava, Luxray, Aerodactyl team. I got nothing for the other 3. oops.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on May 31, 2010, 04:14:35 AM
By the way, who wants to battle against the team that my little bro made? Want to take it on a test drive. XD

If so, I'll be online tomorrow around 7pm to 8pm, CA time, so yea. 
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 31, 2010, 04:34:41 AM
Does anyone have an Espeon with Morning Sun that I could borrow so that I can breed some Growlithe babies with Morning Sun? Also, god damn it, how many do I need to breed to get a [tornado fang]ing Adamant nature >__< *sigh* Good thing at least all of them have perfect Speed (yay for Ditto with perfect HP and Speed).
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gotham Ranger on May 31, 2010, 11:10:13 AM
I learned today that Kyogre can [twin slasher] the pitiful little team I put together.

Of course, that's what I get for not using legendaries and them using two.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on May 31, 2010, 05:51:52 PM
Kyogre rapes damn near everything.  Whether you're using Legends or not, you need to approach him very, VERY carefully.  Honestly, it's not as if my team couldn't use him, but I decided that would make me feel TOO cheap.

...

What am I? Defeat the ultimate boss and you're done?  ~w~
I guess that makes me the Culex to your Smithy?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 31, 2010, 06:40:44 PM
Hmm I think I may have come up with a decent strategy to take on Will's Speed.  Ground, Fighting, Trick Room, Ice Shard and one Chilan Berry but I still have no idea what item I should give Gardevoir and Mammoswine.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gotham Ranger on May 31, 2010, 10:53:49 PM
Kyogre rapes damn near everything.  Whether you're using Legends or not, you need to approach him very, VERY carefully.  Honestly, it's not as if my team couldn't use him, but I decided that would make me feel TOO cheap.
I guess that makes me the Culex to your Smithy?
I was thinking of using Rayquaza because of his Air Lock ability, but not too sure if he'll have any moves that can get me out there before her.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on May 31, 2010, 11:17:35 PM
A Zapdos with high speed and Thunder will [twin slasher] a Kyogre by using its own special effect against it. Make it pack a Life Orb or Magnet for added effect.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on June 01, 2010, 06:14:34 AM
Is there any way at all I can check IVs by myself without needing 49 rare candies or wasting a stupidly long amount of time with the day care?
EDIT: NVM, but it involved resetting my Pearl's FC >_>
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on June 02, 2010, 02:25:02 AM
I was thinking of using Rayquaza because of his Air Lock ability, but not too sure if he'll have any moves that can get me out there before her.
Every bulky water and their dog carries Ice Beam, so I wouldn't call Rayquaza at all reliable in that situation.

STM's on the right track.  Not necessary to use Zapdos (in fact due to the Ice weakness I'd think twice), but in the more general sense, a powerful STAB weakness will put a few dents in him.  The problem is Kyogre is so bulky, especially on the Special side, that the odds of OHKOing it are slim to none, especially if matched against somebody who's given up on Kyogre's Speed (and if they haven't, you're probably looking at a Choice Scarf).  

As an alternative to Thunder, you might consider Grass Knot.  It will score Base 120 damage against both Kyogre and Groudon, regardless of whether or not you've tried to thwart their weather control.

Your other odd chance would be to hit Kyogre with a strong and fast physical attacker, since the thing is pretty much a Special wall that lacks recovery.  Hitting the defense that's Base 50 lower (and less likely to be boosted; special attackers need beware of Calm Mind) would certainly be favorable, if you can.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on June 02, 2010, 04:17:01 AM
I guess that makes me the Culex to your Smithy?
Love it when you talk dirty to me. More serious note, you are probably right...

Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 04, 2010, 04:00:23 PM
For those of you who has the Japanese games, there's a new WiFi event coming, tying in with the coming of the new Zoroark movie.
From June 18th to July 14th 2010, you will be able to download a special Scizor over the Nintendo WiFi.
This Scizor is lvl50, inside a Cherish Ball, holds a Starf Berry, and knows the moves X-Scissor, Iron Defense, Agility and Swords Dance.

Source: Serebii.net (http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on June 04, 2010, 09:48:22 PM
...What's so special about that Scizor?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on June 04, 2010, 11:03:53 PM
...it's in a Cherish Ball and has a Starf Berry?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sky on June 04, 2010, 11:06:48 PM
do i have to get a nat'l pokedex to transfer IV gen pokemon to myself or can i do it before?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on June 04, 2010, 11:15:28 PM
I'm relatively sure HG/SS don't have any trading restrictions.  I didn't actually test it, though.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on June 05, 2010, 12:07:33 AM
I traded an Absol egg to my HG from Pearl before I even got to Violet city, so no.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 06, 2010, 10:11:25 AM
...What's so special about that Scizor?

V
...it's in a Cherish Ball and has a Starf Berry?
And it's an anatagonist in the Zoroark movie? ._.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on June 06, 2010, 04:28:18 PM
And it's an anatagonist in the Zoroark movie? ._.
Why do Scizor always hove to be antagonists?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 06, 2010, 04:37:11 PM
*shrug*
I guess it's the claws.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on June 06, 2010, 07:28:29 PM
...What's so special about that Scizor?

With Swarm? Nothing.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Legendary on June 06, 2010, 10:13:34 PM
Hey, Swarm sets aren't impossibl-...well...wait...A Scizor without Bullet Punch is like...well, like the Lakers without Kobe. I mean, you can, but should you?

Why a Starf Berry, though? Just for it to kick in and boost Sp.Atk at the worst possible instance?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 07, 2010, 03:53:31 PM
For those of you who has the Japanese games, there's a new WiFi event coming, tying in with the coming of the new Zoroark movie.
From June 18th to July 14th 2010, you will be able to download a special Scizor over the Nintendo WiFi.
This Scizor is lvl50, inside a Cherish Ball, holds a Starf Berry, and knows the moves X-Scissor, Iron Defense, Agility and Swords Dance.

Source: Serebii.net (http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml)
A little bit of new info about this Scizor has surfaced.
It's of an Adamant nature, and also has the Classic Ribbon.

Source: Pokebeach.com (http://pokebeach.com/2010/06/movie-13-scizor-wi-fi-download)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on June 07, 2010, 08:47:22 PM
I can build one up -.-", don't see nothin special about this Scissor..
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on June 07, 2010, 11:06:03 PM
Watch it be the one pokemon needed to unlock something super powerful in Black and White.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on June 08, 2010, 02:48:02 AM
Scissor
Excuse me:
Scissor + Razor = Scizor

Now, about what the above poster has said: It may be likely, but it seems like just another nobody Pokemon that's getting undue attention because of its appearance in the movie featuring a fifth gen Pokemon, and this is the company's way of getting the fans hyped up...

...or something.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on June 08, 2010, 03:48:49 AM
Excuse me:
Scissor + Razor = Scizor

...*hits head against the wall repeatedly because he never figured it out*

Scizor is not even close to being a nobody though, but the movie related part seems to be accurate.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on June 08, 2010, 03:51:41 AM
...*hits head against the wall repeatedly because he never figured it out*
I got that from Bulbapedia, so I never really figured it out myself, either.

Also, I didn't mean Scizor is a nobody per se, but this particular one doesn't seem to play a pivotal part in the storyline of the movie, since it's just the antagonist's instrument.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 08, 2010, 07:29:53 AM
Actually, it's more of the antagonist's bodyguard's Pokemon. ._.
Anyways, it's still a bit early to completely disregard him.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on June 08, 2010, 08:50:26 AM
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/dakirbymaster/17_JUL_10.png) (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/dakirbymaster/18_JUL_10.png)

I'll just leave these here.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sky on June 10, 2010, 07:35:28 PM
Found some NICE creepypasta on /x/, fans of Pokemon, specifically Gold or Silver, read and RT.

[spoiler=long text]I have a story I would like to tell you /x/. It is a long story, but for you [Top Spin]s who would go

TL;DR - this story is not for you, so [tornado fang] off.

You see, I am a simple college student living alone in an apartment. I was very enthusiastic about

the release of HeartGold/SoulSilver on the states. I have purposely locked myself out of all media

and the internet aside for school purposes. That means no 4chan, no /v/, no Bulbapedia, etc.

As I was busy with the school year and being a poorfag at the time, I wasn't able to buy

SoulSilver on launch date. After my school year ended, I ordered SoulSilver on Amazon (sorry, I'm

not a faggy pirate). However, it would take a week for it to arrive. I decided that during that

time, I replay my Crystal version on my Gameboy Color.

However, I realized that long ago, my mom threw it away because I told her the save went dead, and

I was very upset about it then. She also threw away my Silver version, so all I have is my Gameboy

Color. As such, I set out to Gamestop and bought a used Silver version, as it's the only Pokemon

game left that they have for the GBC. Ten dollars - fairly cheap despite it being Gamestop.

I went home and started it up for a nostalgia trip. However, that's where things started getting

bizarre, and most likely the reason why you read this.

The Gamefreak logo started up as normal, but it just froze there. I thought the cart was just

errored or something, so I turned it off and on. The same thing happened. I tried pressing A and

Start over and over, and all of the buttons. Eventually, the logo vanished and there was a black

screen for about five seconds. Suddenly, rather than going to the usual menu screen, I was already

in the game in a previous saved file, which was odd as I was expecting all of these carts to have

been wiped by the poor battery. Either way, I wasn't complaining, as I would have chosen the

"Continue" option to see what the previous guy did anyways.

First off, I checked his trainer information. His name was just "..." - He didn't have much

originality.

I checked his profile and apparently he had 999:99 hours put into the game, with all 16 badges,

999999 Pokedollars and all 251 Pokemon on the Pokedex.

Seeing as he apparently had Mew and Celebi logged also, I am guessing he either used a Game Genie

or is a really hardcore Pokemon player back then.

I checked his Pokemon to see what badass team he has. To my surprise, I saw 5 Unowns and a sixth

Pokemon named "HURRY". I'm thinking that this must be some cruel joke by the person who last

played this game, but I decided to check the profiles of those Pokemon anyways. As expected, they

were different letters of Unown, all Level 5. I was a bit shaky with my Unown alphabet at the

time, but I identified the word spelled out to be "LEAVE".

As for the sixth Pokemon, it turned out to be a Cyndaquil (mind you, this is before there were

individualized Pokemon icons). The Cyndaquil looked normal, but it was Level 5 with only 1 HP left

with only two attacks: "Leer" and "Flash". I don't know why they named him "HURRY", but at the

time, I just disregarded it. The most eerie thing was that, despite my volume being at max, none

of the Pokemon he had said their usual cries. Just pure silence.

Having enough of the team, I closed it. I was parked at what appears to be a room inside

Bellsprout Tower. However, for some reason, there were no NPCs around. Even more eerie was that

the "pillar" in the middle didn't move at all, as if just leaning on its side. There was no music

at all, and there was no exit or ladder, or least I thought there wasn't.

I walked around for a few minutes but can't seem to find a way out. This was certainly not a room

I've seen in the Bellsprout Tower before. I've tried checking my items for an Escape Rope, but the

bag was completely empty. There wasn't any Wild Pokemon either.

Finally, I've managed to find a ladder, which turned out to be behind the "pillar". The screen

turned black and the music finally started playing. I had a sudden chill, as I recognize that

melody I heard to be the theme you hear when you listened to the radio at the Alph Ruins where the

Unown are at.

I immediately realize that it wasn't a loading transition, but rather I was in a dark room and

would need Flash. Before I took care of that though, I immediately checked my Pokegear to change

the radio to something more pleasant, but it turns out that there was no Radio card, or even a

Phone nor Time cards. There was only a Map card in which Gold ("..." from earlier, and I will call

him Gold from now on) was just walking in a midst of black.

I recall that Cyndaquil has Flash, so I turned off my Pokegear and made Cyndaquil use Flash. I

didn't see any message saying "HURRY has used Flash!" or anything like that. The room just became

lit just like that, and I soon regretted it. The room was a chilling blood-red with a linear gray

path heading south. The ladder I used to go up/down was not there at all.

I had no choice but to head south. The screen got darker every 20 steps I made, until I finally

made it to the end, which appears to be a sign. I read the sign, which said "TURN BACK NOW".

Suddenly, I was asked to answer YES/NO, but there was no question asked. I chose YES as I do not

know what it was asking, and the screen went black again, making a "ladder climbed" sound. The

Unown Radio music stopped, and in a few seconds was replaced with the not-as-creepy Poke Flute

radio music.

I was in another dark room, but I held my breath and used Flash again. Suddenly, it said that

"HURRY has fainted!" which was odd since I recall that there was no status conditions like Poison

on him, and I clearly wasn't in a battle. I checked my Pokemon quickly and suddenly he's no longer

in my party. In fact, after a bit of investigating, none of my Pokemon are there, but instead all

replaced with Level 10 Unown. I did the same thing as before and spelled out the Unown. My then

team of Unown spelled "HEDIED".

Either way, after that creepy change, the room was lit to reveal myself in a very small room that

appears to be only four squares big. The walls of that room were gray bricks, as if I was inside

something that was hollowed out. Outside that room appears to be a bunch of graves similar to the

ones in Pokemon Red/Blue. I've walked around that small room and pressed A but nothing happened.

I've already concluded that this was clearly a hacked game and some sadistic [tornado fang] sold it to

Gamestop. However, my curiosity kept me going. I checked the trainer profile of "..." again only

to find out that the sprite of Gold was missing his arms. He also seems to appear less smug, but

rather seems more sad and empty in a way that I do not know how to describe. For some reason, it

also now said that he has 24 badges, which was clearly impossible.

After a few minutes of aimless wondering, my character suddenly spun and did the Escape Rope

spinning animation. Instead of flying up though, my character spun downwards slowly, as if

sinking.

After that screen, the music stopped. After finally landing, the overworld sprite of Gold is

coloured differently now. Instead of the usual red colour he dons, he appears completely white

now, including his skin. It's as if he came straight from the colorless Game Boy games placed into

a colored background of the Gameboy Color. I checked his profile, and now, while now is as white

as his overworld sprite, he lost his legs and has what appears to be bloody tears from his eyes.

It also says he now has 32 badges, which now starts to disturb me as this change of number seems

to represent something important.

I also checked my Pokemon, which this time contains 5 Unowns and a Level 100 Celebi without a

nickname. The Unown are this time Leveled 15 and spelled out "DYING". I checked the Celebi's

profile. It was a shiny Celebi, except there's only half of the sprite. One leg, one arm, one eye.

It only has one attack: "Perish Song".

The area I was in itself was the Sprout Tower with the immobile pillar as before, except

everything is apparently red now. I walked north for what felt like forever. Eventually, I finally

encountered some generic men and women NPC. They were all lined up to the side just facing the

long slantish pillar in the middle. They were also white, and nothing happens when I try to speak

to them. I kept on going north until eventually the pillar finally appears chopped off, with a

transparent Red in that spot. I went up to Red and without even pressing A, I was suddenly engaged

and finally in a battle.

The music starts again, which it sounds like the Unown Radio music again, but played backwards.

Gold's battle backsprite matches his front one with the bloody eyes, white skin, and lack of arms,

while Red's sprite was the same as before in GSC except transparent. The text simply said "wants

to battle!" as if he has no name, and both of us only have one Pokemon each, which is weird as I

swear I had six with the Unowns. My shiny Celebi came out, conveniently with half-a-sprite for the

back sprite also. The "Shiny" noise and animation was different, as the sounds it made sound like

multiple "Screech" attacks used consecutively. Red sent out a seemingly normal male Pikachu,

except he is Level 255 and his sprite seems sad and has tears in his eyes.

Rather than the usual "FIGHT/ITEM/PKMN/RUN" menu, I was only given the option to use the Attacks.

Since Celebi only has one, I chose it. Naturally, since Pikachu was Level 255, he went first.

"PIKACHU used CURSE!", lowering his Speed and increasing his other Stats. I'm not even sure if

Pikachu could even use Curse.

"CELEBI used PERISH SONG!" In three turns, both Pokemon get KO'd - not like I have a choice.

At this point, it didn't even go back to the Fight menu, as the battle just continued without me.

Also note that there was no animations at all for some reason.

"PIKACHU used FLAIL!", which didn't do much damage despite his Level and boost as his health was

maxed.

"CELEBI used Perish Song!" Nothing happens as it was already used.

"PIKACHU used FRUSTRATION!", which did a shitton of damage, knocking Celebi down to less than 10

HP.

"CELEBI used Pain Split!", which surprised me as Celebi didn't even have that attack in the first

place. Now Celebi and Pikachu have about 150 HP.

"PIKACHU used MEAN LOOK!" Not like that did anything.

As expected, due to the effects of Perish Song, my Celebi fainted. Except in the text, it said

"CELEBI has died!" and instead of the ordinary drop off the screen animation, the CELEBI

backsprite just vanished. For some reason, the Pikachu was still up even with Perish Song and it

didn't count as my lost. Pikachu used one more different attack beyond the 5 attack limit:

"PIKACHU used DESTINY BOND!"

Afterwards, it said "PIKACHU has died!", with a slow fade-out animation. Apparently, I was the

winner, as the transparent Red Sprite showed up and said ".........."

At that point, I just freaked out, as that transparent Red sprite was suddenly beheaded, leaving

nothing but his transparent body. The battle then ended at that point and faded out along with the

music.

I'm back in the overworld, with another change to the Gold sprite - he's now as transparent as

Red's overworld sprite. I quickly checked Gold's profile, where this time the only thing remains

of him is his head, with a transparent skin. The head was zoomed in a bit, showing a black void in

his eyes. It now stated that he now has 40 badges. I then backed out and checked my Pokemon. They

were all Level 20 Shiny Unown, which when spelled out, read "NOMORE".

I was at what I now know is next to the end. There was apparently no music playing, but for some

reason I still felt like something was there that could be heard. I was back in my room in New

Bark Town. Maybe finally I get to play this game properly, but who am I kidding. I knew that

sadistic [tornado fang] must have done something. I "walked" around my room to interact with things, as I'm

a bit afraid to go down the stairs to see what was awaiting down there. Note I said "walked", as

while the background was moving, Gold was not moving his transparent limbs at all while doing so,

just floating like those ghosts you see in Diamond/Pearl.

As expected, the radio, computer, and TV did not work, so I had no choice but to go down the

stairs. I ended up in the same lower level room of my house. Everything appears normal, except mom

isn't home. After failing to interact with anything in this room, I decided to go outside. To my

surprised, that door leading outside at the south didn't work, and instead I just walk straight

through it to a void. I continued moving south to see what the [tornado fang] was going on. My house

vanishes as I head south into the void. It was creepy as when I entered the void, the outline on

Gold's transparent sprite turned white to contrast with the pitch black. Eventually, I reached a

white area and Gold's sprite turned black and transparent again. I continued south without

thinking of stopping at all.

After a long trek south, I finally encountered something. It was GOLD's regular sprite. I talked

to it. He said "Good bye forever ...." (notably with a space inbetween the forever and ....), and

vanished. As that happened, it said "??? used NIGHTMARE" which at that point, I would not deny

that being possible. Gold did another Escape Rope animation spinning slowly downwards like before.

I'm now back into that small hollowed-out room surrounded by graves earlier. Or at least I say I

was back there, as there's no sprite anymore. I tried to walk around but nothing moved - not even

wall bumping noise. I checked my trainer profile with absolutely no Gold sprite left. It said I

have 0 badges and all the pictures of the Johto Gym Leaders at the bottom were replaced with

skulls

I checked my Pokemon, which were all Level 25 Unown. As expected, it spelled out a phrase that I

dared to read. "IMDEAD"

As soon as I went back to the overworld, the room I supposedly was in was then covered with the

same blocks as the walls. I then figured out what exactly that room was when the final text was

said: "R.I.P. ..."

That room was a big grave, surrounded by other grave. Gold has already been dead. He died

presumably a few years after he defeated Red.

He was a young trainer who, despite his efforts in collecting so many badges and attempts at

becoming a Pokemon master, was still unable to avoid the inevitable fate of death, and his efforts

were eventually forgotten by the next generation.

I was unable to escape from that text no matter what I pressed. I tried resetting the game, and

the same thing happened, at which I then finally decided to give up on that horrible nightmare.
After that experience, I will never look at the "gimmick" Unown the same way again. They say that

only the first generation have folk tales and legends, but the second generation have shown me how

unpleasant the truth can be. I eventually enjoyed SoulSilver immensely, but I still can't unthink
what that rigged game have told me.
END[/spoiler]
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on June 10, 2010, 07:57:15 PM
That... was a bit creepy... it really was.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on June 10, 2010, 09:09:35 PM
Found some NICE creepypasta on /x/, fans of Pokemon, specifically Gold or Silver, read and RT.

[spoiler=long text]I have a story I would like to tell you /x/. It is a long story, but for you [Top Spin]s who would go

TL;DR - this story is not for you, so [tornado fang] off.

You see, I am a simple college student living alone in an apartment. I was very enthusiastic about

the release of HeartGold/SoulSilver on the states. I have purposely locked myself out of all media

and the internet aside for school purposes. That means no 4chan, no /v/, no Bulbapedia, etc.

As I was busy with the school year and being a poorfag at the time, I wasn't able to buy

SoulSilver on launch date. After my school year ended, I ordered SoulSilver on Amazon (sorry, I'm

not a faggy pirate). However, it would take a week for it to arrive. I decided that during that

time, I replay my Crystal version on my Gameboy Color.

However, I realized that long ago, my mom threw it away because I told her the save went dead, and

I was very upset about it then. She also threw away my Silver version, so all I have is my Gameboy

Color. As such, I set out to Gamestop and bought a used Silver version, as it's the only Pokemon

game left that they have for the GBC. Ten dollars - fairly cheap despite it being Gamestop.

I went home and started it up for a nostalgia trip. However, that's where things started getting

bizarre, and most likely the reason why you read this.

The Gamefreak logo started up as normal, but it just froze there. I thought the cart was just

errored or something, so I turned it off and on. The same thing happened. I tried pressing A and

Start over and over, and all of the buttons. Eventually, the logo vanished and there was a black

screen for about five seconds. Suddenly, rather than going to the usual menu screen, I was already

in the game in a previous saved file, which was odd as I was expecting all of these carts to have

been wiped by the poor battery. Either way, I wasn't complaining, as I would have chosen the

"Continue" option to see what the previous guy did anyways.

First off, I checked his trainer information. His name was just "..." - He didn't have much

originality.

I checked his profile and apparently he had 999:99 hours put into the game, with all 16 badges,

999999 Pokedollars and all 251 Pokemon on the Pokedex.

Seeing as he apparently had Mew and Celebi logged also, I am guessing he either used a Game Genie

or is a really hardcore Pokemon player back then.

I checked his Pokemon to see what badass team he has. To my surprise, I saw 5 Unowns and a sixth

Pokemon named "HURRY". I'm thinking that this must be some cruel joke by the person who last

played this game, but I decided to check the profiles of those Pokemon anyways. As expected, they

were different letters of Unown, all Level 5. I was a bit shaky with my Unown alphabet at the

time, but I identified the word spelled out to be "LEAVE".

As for the sixth Pokemon, it turned out to be a Cyndaquil (mind you, this is before there were

individualized Pokemon icons). The Cyndaquil looked normal, but it was Level 5 with only 1 HP left

with only two attacks: "Leer" and "Flash". I don't know why they named him "HURRY", but at the

time, I just disregarded it. The most eerie thing was that, despite my volume being at max, none

of the Pokemon he had said their usual cries. Just pure silence.

Having enough of the team, I closed it. I was parked at what appears to be a room inside

Bellsprout Tower. However, for some reason, there were no NPCs around. Even more eerie was that

the "pillar" in the middle didn't move at all, as if just leaning on its side. There was no music

at all, and there was no exit or ladder, or least I thought there wasn't.

I walked around for a few minutes but can't seem to find a way out. This was certainly not a room

I've seen in the Bellsprout Tower before. I've tried checking my items for an Escape Rope, but the

bag was completely empty. There wasn't any Wild Pokemon either.

Finally, I've managed to find a ladder, which turned out to be behind the "pillar". The screen

turned black and the music finally started playing. I had a sudden chill, as I recognize that

melody I heard to be the theme you hear when you listened to the radio at the Alph Ruins where the

Unown are at.

I immediately realize that it wasn't a loading transition, but rather I was in a dark room and

would need Flash. Before I took care of that though, I immediately checked my Pokegear to change

the radio to something more pleasant, but it turns out that there was no Radio card, or even a

Phone nor Time cards. There was only a Map card in which Gold ("..." from earlier, and I will call

him Gold from now on) was just walking in a midst of black.

I recall that Cyndaquil has Flash, so I turned off my Pokegear and made Cyndaquil use Flash. I

didn't see any message saying "HURRY has used Flash!" or anything like that. The room just became

lit just like that, and I soon regretted it. The room was a chilling blood-red with a linear gray

path heading south. The ladder I used to go up/down was not there at all.

I had no choice but to head south. The screen got darker every 20 steps I made, until I finally

made it to the end, which appears to be a sign. I read the sign, which said "TURN BACK NOW".

Suddenly, I was asked to answer YES/NO, but there was no question asked. I chose YES as I do not

know what it was asking, and the screen went black again, making a "ladder climbed" sound. The

Unown Radio music stopped, and in a few seconds was replaced with the not-as-creepy Poke Flute

radio music.

I was in another dark room, but I held my breath and used Flash again. Suddenly, it said that

"HURRY has fainted!" which was odd since I recall that there was no status conditions like Poison

on him, and I clearly wasn't in a battle. I checked my Pokemon quickly and suddenly he's no longer

in my party. In fact, after a bit of investigating, none of my Pokemon are there, but instead all

replaced with Level 10 Unown. I did the same thing as before and spelled out the Unown. My then

team of Unown spelled "HEDIED".

Either way, after that creepy change, the room was lit to reveal myself in a very small room that

appears to be only four squares big. The walls of that room were gray bricks, as if I was inside

something that was hollowed out. Outside that room appears to be a bunch of graves similar to the

ones in Pokemon Red/Blue. I've walked around that small room and pressed A but nothing happened.

I've already concluded that this was clearly a hacked game and some sadistic [tornado fang] sold it to

Gamestop. However, my curiosity kept me going. I checked the trainer profile of "..." again only

to find out that the sprite of Gold was missing his arms. He also seems to appear less smug, but

rather seems more sad and empty in a way that I do not know how to describe. For some reason, it

also now said that he has 24 badges, which was clearly impossible.

After a few minutes of aimless wondering, my character suddenly spun and did the Escape Rope

spinning animation. Instead of flying up though, my character spun downwards slowly, as if

sinking.

After that screen, the music stopped. After finally landing, the overworld sprite of Gold is

coloured differently now. Instead of the usual red colour he dons, he appears completely white

now, including his skin. It's as if he came straight from the colorless Game Boy games placed into

a colored background of the Gameboy Color. I checked his profile, and now, while now is as white

as his overworld sprite, he lost his legs and has what appears to be bloody tears from his eyes.

It also says he now has 32 badges, which now starts to disturb me as this change of number seems

to represent something important.

I also checked my Pokemon, which this time contains 5 Unowns and a Level 100 Celebi without a

nickname. The Unown are this time Leveled 15 and spelled out "DYING". I checked the Celebi's

profile. It was a shiny Celebi, except there's only half of the sprite. One leg, one arm, one eye.

It only has one attack: "Perish Song".

The area I was in itself was the Sprout Tower with the immobile pillar as before, except

everything is apparently red now. I walked north for what felt like forever. Eventually, I finally

encountered some generic men and women NPC. They were all lined up to the side just facing the

long slantish pillar in the middle. They were also white, and nothing happens when I try to speak

to them. I kept on going north until eventually the pillar finally appears chopped off, with a

transparent Red in that spot. I went up to Red and without even pressing A, I was suddenly engaged

and finally in a battle.

The music starts again, which it sounds like the Unown Radio music again, but played backwards.

Gold's battle backsprite matches his front one with the bloody eyes, white skin, and lack of arms,

while Red's sprite was the same as before in GSC except transparent. The text simply said "wants

to battle!" as if he has no name, and both of us only have one Pokemon each, which is weird as I

swear I had six with the Unowns. My shiny Celebi came out, conveniently with half-a-sprite for the

back sprite also. The "Shiny" noise and animation was different, as the sounds it made sound like

multiple "Screech" attacks used consecutively. Red sent out a seemingly normal male Pikachu,

except he is Level 255 and his sprite seems sad and has tears in his eyes.

Rather than the usual "FIGHT/ITEM/PKMN/RUN" menu, I was only given the option to use the Attacks.

Since Celebi only has one, I chose it. Naturally, since Pikachu was Level 255, he went first.

"PIKACHU used CURSE!", lowering his Speed and increasing his other Stats. I'm not even sure if

Pikachu could even use Curse.

"CELEBI used PERISH SONG!" In three turns, both Pokemon get KO'd - not like I have a choice.

At this point, it didn't even go back to the Fight menu, as the battle just continued without me.

Also note that there was no animations at all for some reason.

"PIKACHU used FLAIL!", which didn't do much damage despite his Level and boost as his health was

maxed.

"CELEBI used Perish Song!" Nothing happens as it was already used.

"PIKACHU used FRUSTRATION!", which did a shitton of damage, knocking Celebi down to less than 10

HP.

"CELEBI used Pain Split!", which surprised me as Celebi didn't even have that attack in the first

place. Now Celebi and Pikachu have about 150 HP.

"PIKACHU used MEAN LOOK!" Not like that did anything.

As expected, due to the effects of Perish Song, my Celebi fainted. Except in the text, it said

"CELEBI has died!" and instead of the ordinary drop off the screen animation, the CELEBI

backsprite just vanished. For some reason, the Pikachu was still up even with Perish Song and it

didn't count as my lost. Pikachu used one more different attack beyond the 5 attack limit:

"PIKACHU used DESTINY BOND!"

Afterwards, it said "PIKACHU has died!", with a slow fade-out animation. Apparently, I was the

winner, as the transparent Red Sprite showed up and said ".........."

At that point, I just freaked out, as that transparent Red sprite was suddenly beheaded, leaving

nothing but his transparent body. The battle then ended at that point and faded out along with the

music.

I'm back in the overworld, with another change to the Gold sprite - he's now as transparent as

Red's overworld sprite. I quickly checked Gold's profile, where this time the only thing remains

of him is his head, with a transparent skin. The head was zoomed in a bit, showing a black void in

his eyes. It now stated that he now has 40 badges. I then backed out and checked my Pokemon. They

were all Level 20 Shiny Unown, which when spelled out, read "NOMORE".

I was at what I now know is next to the end. There was apparently no music playing, but for some

reason I still felt like something was there that could be heard. I was back in my room in New

Bark Town. Maybe finally I get to play this game properly, but who am I kidding. I knew that

sadistic [tornado fang] must have done something. I "walked" around my room to interact with things, as I'm

a bit afraid to go down the stairs to see what was awaiting down there. Note I said "walked", as

while the background was moving, Gold was not moving his transparent limbs at all while doing so,

just floating like those ghosts you see in Diamond/Pearl.

As expected, the radio, computer, and TV did not work, so I had no choice but to go down the

stairs. I ended up in the same lower level room of my house. Everything appears normal, except mom

isn't home. After failing to interact with anything in this room, I decided to go outside. To my

surprised, that door leading outside at the south didn't work, and instead I just walk straight

through it to a void. I continued moving south to see what the [tornado fang] was going on. My house

vanishes as I head south into the void. It was creepy as when I entered the void, the outline on

Gold's transparent sprite turned white to contrast with the pitch black. Eventually, I reached a

white area and Gold's sprite turned black and transparent again. I continued south without

thinking of stopping at all.

After a long trek south, I finally encountered something. It was GOLD's regular sprite. I talked

to it. He said "Good bye forever ...." (notably with a space inbetween the forever and ....), and

vanished. As that happened, it said "??? used NIGHTMARE" which at that point, I would not deny

that being possible. Gold did another Escape Rope animation spinning slowly downwards like before.

I'm now back into that small hollowed-out room surrounded by graves earlier. Or at least I say I

was back there, as there's no sprite anymore. I tried to walk around but nothing moved - not even

wall bumping noise. I checked my trainer profile with absolutely no Gold sprite left. It said I

have 0 badges and all the pictures of the Johto Gym Leaders at the bottom were replaced with

skulls

I checked my Pokemon, which were all Level 25 Unown. As expected, it spelled out a phrase that I

dared to read. "IMDEAD"

As soon as I went back to the overworld, the room I supposedly was in was then covered with the

same blocks as the walls. I then figured out what exactly that room was when the final text was

said: "R.I.P. ..."

That room was a big grave, surrounded by other grave. Gold has already been dead. He died

presumably a few years after he defeated Red.

He was a young trainer who, despite his efforts in collecting so many badges and attempts at

becoming a Pokemon master, was still unable to avoid the inevitable fate of death, and his efforts

were eventually forgotten by the next generation.

I was unable to escape from that text no matter what I pressed. I tried resetting the game, and

the same thing happened, at which I then finally decided to give up on that horrible nightmare.
After that experience, I will never look at the "gimmick" Unown the same way again. They say that

only the first generation have folk tales and legends, but the second generation have shown me how

unpleasant the truth can be. I eventually enjoyed SoulSilver immensely, but I still can't unthink
what that rigged game have told me.
END[/spoiler]
I love these stories.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sky on June 10, 2010, 09:37:09 PM
fake story is totally fake but i would totally make a hack like that if i even knew where to begin
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on June 10, 2010, 09:54:06 PM
Well I knew it was fake, but still.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 10, 2010, 10:32:40 PM
Oh god it may have been fake but man that was just creepy as heck.  Seriously if that happened to me I would burn it or give it to some jerk who deserved the karma.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 11, 2010, 02:50:00 AM
... Wow. That was... Wow. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on June 12, 2010, 08:52:01 AM
*SIGH* Got rid of my SS, started to realize that it was starting to be bad for my health...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on June 12, 2010, 09:00:05 AM
*SIGH* Got rid of my SS, started to realize that it was starting to be bad for my health...
Dare I ask how?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on June 12, 2010, 05:30:04 PM
Addiction, that's all am going to say.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 14, 2010, 12:05:21 AM
I'm finally done Ev training my pokemon and I still have no idea what item I should give Gardevior or Feraligatr.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 17, 2010, 05:43:42 PM
For those of you who has the Japanese games, there's a new WiFi event coming, tying in with the coming of the new Zoroark movie.
From June 18th to July 14th 2010, you will be able to download a special Scizor over the Nintendo WiFi.
This Scizor is lvl50, inside a Cherish Ball, holds a Starf Berry, and knows the moves X-Scissor, Iron Defense, Agility and Swords Dance.

Source: Serebii.net (http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml)
A little bit of new info about this Scizor has surfaced.
It's of an Adamant nature, and also has the Classic Ribbon.

Source: Pokebeach.com (http://pokebeach.com/2010/06/movie-13-scizor-wi-fi-download)
Well, for those of you with the Japanese game, this WiFi event is now active.
And this Scizor does not unlock anything in HGSS, nor in the coming BW games. -_-
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 19, 2010, 12:24:04 AM
Okay I have my team EV trained and I'm extremly bored, would anyone be intrested in battling me?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 19, 2010, 06:13:23 PM
Finally had a chance to trade over the WiFi.
Man, it's so smooth. :3
And those plaza games were rather fun. XD

Thanks again, Alma~
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on June 19, 2010, 11:01:54 PM
Finally had a chance to trade over the WiFi.

Speaking of WiFi trading, [tornado fang] the GTS in it's current form. Nintendo better improve it 100x for BW, it's just horrible right now.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 19, 2010, 11:16:14 PM
I forgot why is the GTS so horrible, it's been a while since I've tried it.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on June 19, 2010, 11:22:53 PM
-Only being able to see like 3 offers at a time
-You can only offer one pokemon at a time
-EVERYONE asking for LV100 legendaries for everything, which makes the first part even worse since all you'll get is "REQUESTING LV100 *insert legendary here* FOR *insert any pokemon here*"

Honestly though, I'd be happy enough if they just fix the first part and let us look at a list of ALL possible offers, not just 3 or 5 at a time -__-
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 19, 2010, 11:32:38 PM
Yeah that's what I thought, that's why I never use it.  I don't get the big deal about legendaries, they seem to me all bark and no bite to me I mean I can beat a level 45 Lugia with just a level 35 non Ev trained pokemon.  I mean it's easier than beating Red with a team of lv 65 Ev trained pokemon, very possible but it can be very annoying.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on June 20, 2010, 12:13:56 AM
They should begin to enforce a rule where you can only ask for a legendary if you're offering one.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 20, 2010, 04:23:35 AM
They should begin to enforce a rule where you can only ask for a legendary if you're offering one.
Yeah they really should.

Also my offer for a pokemon battle is still open.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on June 20, 2010, 04:26:23 AM
If you're willing to take some punishment, I'm game. ;)  I'll even let you pick the battle format.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on June 20, 2010, 04:30:22 AM
Punishment, heh, funny.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on June 20, 2010, 04:31:21 AM
That pun was totally NOT intended... -u-'
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Blaze Yeager on June 20, 2010, 04:32:50 AM
Finally Made it to Lance,He Kicked my Ass Badly
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 20, 2010, 04:42:41 AM
Well if there aren't any other offers I guess you're on Hypershell.  Also if you can give me an opinion on my Mammoswine I'd appreciate it because I think I might have to switch it for a Weavile because Mammoswine has a lot of weaknesses.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on June 20, 2010, 04:44:42 AM
Give me a sec to do a trade with myself and then I'll be online.  I have a different strategy that I've been wanting to try out.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 20, 2010, 04:50:43 AM
Okay I'll be waiting.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: AquaTeamV3 on June 20, 2010, 05:14:28 AM
Well if there aren't any other offers I guess you're on Hypershell.  Also if you can give me an opinion on my Mammoswine I'd appreciate it because I think I might have to switch it for a Weavile because Mammoswine has a lot of weaknesses.

ALL ice types have a number of weaknesses; it's pretty much a curse.  Mamoswine has great attack power and type coverage, but you have to know when to keep it in and when to get out of there.  He's better used on a hail team, where you have the chance of Snow Cloak saving you should you mis-predict.  Weavile's obviously stronger, but he's that much more frail as well.  Anything with Mach Punch or Bullet Punch is pretty much bad news.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on June 20, 2010, 05:16:33 AM
That is true, being an Ice type sucks defensively, but rocks offensively.  It's a heck of a tradeoff.

I have this amazing ability to screw people over by complete chance.  I know my Pokemon are powerful, but I don't really call this strategy: First 'maru is completely weakness screwed against my opener, then trying to adapt to that, I switch openers and screw him over again, and now Sakura shoots herself in the foot with Trick Room EXACTLY when I switch in Steelix...

So, Sakura, can we do that Double? -u-' I know I'm a pain in the ass to fight, but I have a combo that I want to try with one of my long-lost favorites.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 20, 2010, 05:20:23 AM
Yeah but at the same time Weavile is very fast and still has high attack power not to mention he has less weaknesses people would often exploit as long as I keep it away from a fire and fighting pokemon it might be benificial to me although I need to make better descions seeing how bad I just lost to Hypershell.

Why the heck not I might do a little better.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on June 20, 2010, 05:23:19 AM
That's the spirit.  And don't feel bad, I've suffered some humiliating losses on random Wifi, to freaking Underused weather teams.  The game relies VERY heavily on prediction; once you lose momentum it can be hard to recover.

EDITS: Okay, they *REALLY* need to add a confirmation message to that F*@#ING RUN BUTTON!!!

Anyways, good match.  I learned that one cannot Me First their teammates (there goes any hope of Mewtwo working in a Double...).  And I must say, for bringing a Single battle team out of their element, you did quite well.  Certainly much better prediction-wise than last time (a hiccup at the opener, but otherwise strong).
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 20, 2010, 05:45:24 AM
Well I stood my ground longer somehow, but I did worse in terms of the number pokemon knocked out.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 20, 2010, 09:23:07 AM
Speaking of WiFi trading, [tornado fang] the GTS in it's current form. Nintendo better improve it 100x for BW, it's just horrible right now.
Hmm... I didn't try the GTS. XD
I should have gone and see the crazy trades. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Deadpool on June 21, 2010, 12:25:01 AM
Three Legendary Beast/Movie Celebi/Goon Scizor code: Press Select
Pick up via Box 17

-code removed since it's in the url given below-

Posted on: June 21, 2010, 06:21:40
i don't know if this code works

i got it from here:

http://projectpokemon.org/forums/showthread.php?9359-Riolu-Aura-Sphere-Now-s-Pokemon-SoulSilver-HeartGold-Action-Replay-Codes&p=81680&viewfull=1#post81680




Posted on: June 21, 2010, 06:23:26
if it does works, can someone seprate them for just the Celebi for one code and the beasts for another seprate code
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 24, 2010, 01:34:13 PM
For those of you that missed the Jirachi download event earlier this year, here's your chance!
The same Jirachi will be available from the Nintendo WiFi through the Mystery Gift option, for Pokemon Diamond, Pearl, Platinum, Heart Gold and Soul Silver.
Having this Jirachi in HGSS will unlock a PokeWalker course named Night Sky's Edge.
Jirachi is lvl5, holds a Liechi Berry and knows Draco Meteor.

One word: HELLYEAH

Source: Serebii.net (http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml).
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on June 24, 2010, 09:24:47 PM
I have this amazing ability to screw people over by complete chance.  I know my Pokemon are powerful, but I don't really call this strategy: First 'maru is completely weakness screwed against my opener, then trying to adapt to that, I switch openers and screw him over again, and now Sakura shoots herself in the foot with Trick Room EXACTLY when I switch in Steelix...
*Pulls back ears and growls*

Sakura, when you have time, I want a match against you.  owo
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Blaze Yeager on June 24, 2010, 10:34:17 PM
I want you all to face me sometime after i get the National Dex so i can have my pokemon from Platnium come over...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on June 24, 2010, 11:51:23 PM
I don't believe HG/SS requires that you wait for the National Pokedex before trading with other versions.  Nevertheless, whenever you're ready, I'll take you on.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on June 25, 2010, 01:42:41 AM
Same here. Haven't really played it much since Hypershell kicked my butt, so I might be hazy again as to weakness and types.  :|
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 25, 2010, 03:17:40 AM
Oh yeah Akamaru, I think I might have a lucky break my dad is going somewhere and won't be back at 8 so I think we can battle right now.  My dad doesn't really understand technology so it would be weird to someone out of thin air, let alone someone far away.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on June 25, 2010, 03:19:36 AM
Alright then. I'll get on right now.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on June 25, 2010, 03:25:45 AM
Would anyone mind a few matches with me in the next half hour or so? Granted it's not my game, I may as well have some fun with my bro's Gold version.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 25, 2010, 03:27:41 AM
Maybe I can after Akamaru.

Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on June 25, 2010, 03:39:34 AM
Guys... What is up with the Ice Shards!? It screws me up. On another note, nice match Sakura. I didn't think I was going to survive when I realized your Mamoswine had Ice Shard. I was like, "Damn..." Still, thank god my dragon actually survived (forgot his name...  -u-'). Still, I am surprised by your Metagross. I didn't think there would be many Pokemon that can survive a Super Effective attack from my Dragonite. Good match, but it seems I'll still hold my "Second Best" title rank!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 25, 2010, 03:40:38 AM
Well that was certainly intresting, danm your Chrizard followed by missing with Aqua Tail really messed me up not to mention the Heracross with Close Combat halfing my Metagross' HP.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on June 25, 2010, 03:41:56 AM
Sounds like you both had a fun match. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 25, 2010, 03:44:19 AM
Indeed it was I'm just glad my pokemon did better than I expected, but seriously Akamaru why do you have 2 dragon types, I know thier pretty danm good and all but it's not a good idea to have 2 pokemon of the same type.

Okay Jericho it's your turn now.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on June 25, 2010, 03:45:40 AM
Indeed it was I'm just glad my pokemon did better than I expected, but seriously Akamaru why do you have 2 dragon types, I know thier pretty danm good and all but it's not a good idea to have 2 pokemon of the same type.

Okay Jericho it's your turn now.

Just a thought though, do you have my FC?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 25, 2010, 03:48:03 AM
I don't think I do.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on June 25, 2010, 03:49:07 AM
That is true. My Alakazam would have followed up with Grass knot. Pretty sure it has weak Sp. Def, so it may have died. >_>
Now that I think about it, that is true. Didn't think it would survive a close combat. Should have used Bug Horn. Maybe it would have survived...
Sounds like you both had a fun match. XD
It was fun!  8)
She was harder to beat than the other two... >_> More challenging.
Indeed it was I'm just glad my pokemon did better than I expected, but seriously Akamaru why do you have 2 dragon types, I know thier pretty danm good and all but it's not a good idea to have 2 pokemon of the same type.
So you say, but you couldn't defeat them, huh? Although you are right. It does lead me to a Ice Shard weakness. You notice I don't say Ice weakness. The chances of you outrunning my "Rider" or my Dragon Danced Dragonite are slim to none...
If they survive that is. :D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on June 25, 2010, 03:50:58 AM
I don't think I do.

4297 5603 0391. Let me know when you're there.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on June 25, 2010, 03:52:14 AM
I'll play Jericho after if he has enough time.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 25, 2010, 03:57:22 AM
You got that right I mean my Salamence may be trained for speed and could definitly out run the Dragonite but it really has sucky defense like half my pokemon.  I think I need to experiment with other pokemon too, a speedy Weavile and a Synthesis high Defense/Special Defense Leafeon/Roserade.  I don't know I might have to think of something.

4297 5603 0391. Let me know when you're there.
Okay Jericho got you registered and I'm pretty much almost there.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on June 25, 2010, 04:18:36 AM
Alright then.

Posted on: June 24, 2010, 08:57:46 PM
That missed Leaf Storm of mine and that critical hit Dragon Claw you got totally made your day Sakura. XD

Now if only I didn't plan all my moves like that. What I was hoping for with Typhlosion was that if you had dealt it any damage with Gardevoir, you'd trigger Blaze and I could get a scorcher off. With Blaziken, since I didn't have a move of any particularly decent effectiveness against it, I wanted to outspeed it and use a near full power Eruption. Then I got slapped in the face with an Earthquake. XD

Posted on: June 24, 2010, 09:15:36 PM
FUUUUUUUUUUUU

Battery dies on me. :(
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 25, 2010, 04:19:15 AM
Well I finally won, but man dude I'm sorry for the bad luck there with the missed Leaf Storm and all.  I'm just glad I actually came up with some pretty danm good strategy but I gotta remember that Rock Type moves are the ones Super Effective against Ice types and not Ground types.  I also need to come up with a better lead pokemon too.

That missed Leaf Storm of mine and that critical hit Dragon Claw you got totally made your day Sakura. XD

Now if only I didn't plan all my moves like that. What I was hoping for with Typhlosion was that if you had dealt it any damage with Gardevoir, you'd trigger Blaze and I could get a scorcher off. With Blaziken, since I didn't have a move of any particularly decent effectiveness against it, I wanted to outspeed it and use a near full power Eruption. Then I got slapped in the face with an Earthquake. XD
Even if that strategy worked my Blaziken has a Choice Scarf on him and some pretty high attack so it probably wouldn't work.  That's why I switched out him out the minute Typhosion was out, I was counting on you to knock out Gardevoir.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on June 25, 2010, 04:20:49 AM
Posted on: June 24, 2010, 09:15:36 PM
FUUUUUUUUUUUU

Battery dies on me. :(
That explains it. I just thought that whenever we play against each other online, we just lag.  8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 25, 2010, 04:24:47 AM
Another thing those pokemon were trained pretty well, I didn't expect that Amphoros to survive my Metagross' Earthquake attack.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on June 25, 2010, 04:31:52 AM
Well I finally won, but man dude I'm sorry for the bad luck there with the missed Leaf Storm and all.  I'm just glad I actually came up with some pretty danm good strategy but I gotta remember that Rock Type moves are the ones Super Effective against Ice types and not Ground types.  I also need to come up with a better lead pokemon too.

Honestly, Metagross wasn't that bad a choice, it's just that the Ampharos I helped my brother with is a demon. I really should have just waited until I could go wild in my own Soul Silver with my own personal team, but Johto hype got the better of me. I was actually thinking I wouldn't do more than a third of Metagross' HP worth of damage, but damn if Ampharos didn't shock the hell out of me there. XD

That Mamoswine though... I totally forgot about the Ice Shard priority for a second, but when I saw Sceptile tank it, I had my "COUNTER" face on (http://ashorisreviews.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/soul20eater20-205020-20large2003.jpg) and just went for the big guns. In retrospect, Leaf Blade was the better choice. Another thing learned for today though was that my team of double types idea might be a great idea after all.

That explains it. I just thought that whenever we play against each other online, we just lag.  8D

I owe you a battle though. Maybe tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 25, 2010, 04:41:07 AM
Honestly, Metagross wasn't that bad a choice, it's just that that Ampharos I helped my brother with is a demon. I really should have just waited until I could go wild in my own Soul Silver with my own personal team, but Johto hype got the better of me. I was actually thinking I wouldn't do more than a third of Metagross' HP worth of damage, but damn if Ampharos didn't shocked the hell out of me there. XD
Yeah that's the thing with Metagross and most Steel types in general they have great physical defense but pretty bad special defense, even with it's high Special Defense IV it still can't stand up to pokemon trained for Special Attack sweeping. 

This is why I really need to have a plan to fight againt Will and his team, his team is truly built for speed even the really not speedy ones which I find a bit weird he that for his Metagross and Tyranitar.   
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on June 27, 2010, 10:21:57 PM
Stuff~ XD

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/pokemonhgss-mewtwo-pokeball.jpg) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/pokemonhgss-mewtwo-pokeball.jpg)

Lv70
HP: 243
Attack: 161
Defense: 136
Sp.Atk: 226
Sp.Def: 148
Speed: 196
Psycho Cut
Amnesia
Power Swap
Guard Swap

Caught with a
Pokeball
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on June 27, 2010, 10:46:53 PM
Now I miss my DS... why did it have to break? woe

Still, nice work there! ^_^
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on June 27, 2010, 11:05:39 PM
Lv70
HP: 243
Attack: 161
Defense: 136
Sp.Atk: 226
Sp.Def: 148
Speed: 196
Psycho Cut
Amnesia
Power Swap
Guard Swap

Caught with a
Pokeball


How!? o-O
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on June 27, 2010, 11:33:47 PM
- Lv100 Meganium with Body Slam.
- Hit Mewtwo with it so that the HP reaches the red zone, and give Paralyze effect.
- Mewtwo will only use the moves I mentioned. ^^;
- Keep throwing Pokeballs and either you get lucky to get it in the first try or you have to throw more Pokeballs, about 30 or 40 times.
- Do some silly button-combinations while the Pokeball is trying to capture Mewtwo too. x3

It isn't really that hard. It's all about patience. It can be done with any Legendary Pokemon, just make sure they don't run out of PP so that they use Struggle, or they will run out of HP and you have to reset your game and try again. ^^;
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on June 28, 2010, 12:43:37 AM
Yeah, every ball has a chance.  I've successfully used the Heavy Ball on Lugia, who isn't really that heavy (being a bird and all).  And of course, my Cresselia is in a Heal Ball, for no reason other than I thought it'd look spiffy.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Blaze Yeager on June 28, 2010, 02:10:10 AM
i'll be ready Meet me soon...

My FC:2665 5860 1945

Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 28, 2010, 10:23:40 AM
Stuff~ XD

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/pokemonhgss-mewtwo-pokeball.jpg) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/pokemonhgss-mewtwo-pokeball.jpg)

Lv70
HP: 243
Attack: 161
Defense: 136
Sp.Atk: 226
Sp.Def: 148
Speed: 196
Psycho Cut
Amnesia
Power Swap
Guard Swap

Caught with a
Pokeball
Hehe, I have a Serious strong-willed one in SS...
Though it's in a Dusk Ball. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 29, 2010, 05:16:04 AM
You know for some reason Steven gave me a Jolly natured Treeko, I wish it was Timid though.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 29, 2010, 07:12:46 AM
Save and soft-reset are your friends. XD

Also... Anyone mind giving me a spare legit event Arceus? -_-
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 29, 2010, 07:15:09 AM
Save and soft-reset are your friends. XD

Also... Anyone mind giving me a spare legit event Arceus? -_-
Yeah but I might have gotten a neutral natured one if I did, besides I caught a swarm of Dittos.  Oh and you don't nessesarily need a legit event Arceus to activate the event, if that's what you're doing, my friend's hacked one did just fine.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 29, 2010, 07:15:51 AM
I know.
But I prefer legitimancy. -_-
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 29, 2010, 07:16:27 AM
I see, well good luck with that my friend.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 29, 2010, 07:17:52 AM
*shakes fist at Gamestop*
I WILL HAVE MY REVENGE!!! (Like with Pika-coloured Pichu and Jirachi...)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 29, 2010, 07:20:49 AM
Didn't you say that Gamestop was going to have another Jiraci event?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on June 29, 2010, 07:21:27 AM
If you can trade right now I can let you borrow the Arceus that Shell gave me.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 29, 2010, 07:23:07 AM
Didn't you say that Gamestop was going to have another Jiraci event?
They did, earlier in the year.
This time, it's through WiFi.

If you can trade right now I can let you borrow the Arceus that Shell gave me.
... Darnit, can't leave now. >.>;
And actually, I was thinking of keeping the Arceus, hence spare. 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 29, 2010, 07:25:21 AM
They did, earlier in the year.
This time, it's through WiFi.
Oh yeah I forgot it was Wi-Fi this time, oh well like I said before the crash I can virutually get unliminted Jirachi if I wanted to, although my pokewalker is broken. -u-'
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Blaze Yeager on June 29, 2010, 07:32:17 AM
Um...Did anyone add me yet?
Cause i'll Battle Tommorrow Night...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Deadpool on July 01, 2010, 05:12:47 PM
http://gts.pokestation.net/?archive

here is where i think i got a legit celebi (The 13th Movie) using the GTS

go to "How to connect"

then go back to event archive and nominate celebi or any of the other pokemon if there are some you want from the list.

and the "winner" of the round will be distributed on the GTS
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 09, 2010, 01:06:38 PM
New Wifi event for those with the Japanese games.
This event will run from July 15th to August 10th 2010, and the prize is a Pikachu.
It's not an ordinary Pikachu... It's Ash's Pikachu. 8D

OT's Ash (or in this case, Satoshi), Naughty nature (lol), Lvl50, male, holds a Light Ball, inside a Cherish Ball, and has the Classic Ribbon.
Moveset is Volt Tackle, Iron Tail, Quick Attack, Thunderbolt, which is the moveset in the anime.

Source: Serebii.net (http://www.serebii.net/events/wifi.shtml)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on July 09, 2010, 01:22:18 PM
So its just Red's Pikachu.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 09, 2010, 01:25:00 PM
Ash's can never live up to Red's (despite the same/similar moveset).
Because it's Red's.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on July 09, 2010, 05:47:43 PM
So its just Red's Pikachu.
Yeah you have to differenciate from the 2 of them.  Red has pokemon that, while not the best, still kick a lot of ass while Ash has a lot more pokemon he actually used but most of them suck since he doesn't evolve them and doesn't know how to raise them.  Ash may have some better ones now but that's only because he evolved them and are inheriently better for the most part, in my opinion any way.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on July 09, 2010, 06:15:07 PM
Two things to bear in mind about the anime:

1. Pokemon do not suffer the "4 attack" limit.
2. Ash insists on giving all his powerful 'mans away.



"We'll be back as soon as we get Professor Oak's Pokeball!"

Pidgeot is still waiting, you jerk.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on July 09, 2010, 06:25:48 PM
Two things to bear in mind about the anime:

1. Pokemon do not suffer the "4 attack" limit.
2. Ash insists on giving all his powerful 'mans away.



"We'll be back as soon as we get Professor Oak's Pokeball!"

Pidgeot is still waiting, you jerk.
That too, though other than that Dragonite what other pokemon don't have that 4 attack limit?  

Also Pigeot is hard to count on, I mean who knows if it's even still in Kanto in the first place.  Plus it still has a duty for those Piggy, Pigeotto, and their offspring to defend them from Spearows and Fearows.  Same thing with Lapras while a pretty good pokemon it's leading the other Lapras' now so he can't exactly call on them.  

The only pokemon he can actually call outside of Professor Oak is Charizard and Squirtle but honestly I would choose Totodile over Squritle if he ever evolves them, for reasons you already know, which he probably won't because he's so stubborn.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 09, 2010, 06:28:16 PM
Actually...
The anime is trying to restrict the Pokemon to 4 moves now.

As for Pidgeot, yeah, duty.
But Lapras is more it's back to it's herd.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on July 09, 2010, 06:30:39 PM
Actually...
The anime is trying to restrict the Pokemon to 4 moves now.
Oh so the older generation really didn't have that 4 move limit?  

As for Pidgeot, yeah, duty.
But Lapras is more it's back to it's herd.
Still Lapras is with her family now so yeah, I don't think she's coming back.

Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 09, 2010, 06:40:12 PM
Oh so the older generation really didn't have that 4 move limit?  
Yep, there were instances in the Kanto, Orange Islands and Johto arcs that showed Pokemon to have more than 4 moves.
Not so much in the Hoenn and Sinnoh arcs.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on July 09, 2010, 06:42:03 PM
Yep, there were instances in the Kanto, Orange Islands and Johto arcs that showed Pokemon to have more than 4 moves.
Not so much in the Hoenn and Sinnoh arcs.
I see, it's been so long since I've seen those arcs that I didn't remember.  That and I probably wasn't paying much attenion. -u-'
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on July 09, 2010, 06:56:47 PM
Well, I've seen very little of Hoenn and pretty much none of Sinnoh.

What can I say, sooner or later you get tired of the Team Rocket motto.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on July 09, 2010, 07:00:08 PM
Well, I've seen very little of Hoenn and pretty much none of Sinnoh.

What can I say, sooner or later you get tired of the Team Rocket motto.
Actually they keep changing it and each time it gets worse.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 09, 2010, 07:40:34 PM
Lol yeah... They changed their motto in Sinnoh...
But it's still Team Freaking Rocket. 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on July 09, 2010, 08:27:28 PM
Lol yeah... They changed their motto in Sinnoh...
But it's still Team Freaking Rocket. 8D
They changed it for Hoenn too or at least the Battle Frontier. 

Also can someone explain to me why Ice Punch costs way more BP than Outrage?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on July 10, 2010, 01:09:10 AM
If Pokemon were real.

http://m.kotaku.com/5582918/if-pokemon-were-real/gallery/
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on July 10, 2010, 02:20:20 AM
They made Mewtwo into a F*@#!ING HYENA?!!!

Excuse me while I poke my eyes out.  And somebody keep that psychopath away from my completely non-real Dragonite.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on July 10, 2010, 02:45:12 AM
I'm also concerned about how they made Absol, Gengar and Entei look.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on July 10, 2010, 08:19:03 AM
Kyogre one looked cool, the gyrados one looked rather scary.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on July 10, 2010, 08:57:17 AM
I liked the Jolteon VS Espeon one.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Thanatos-Zero on July 10, 2010, 11:52:15 PM
Ash's can never live up to Red's (despite the same/similar moveset).
Because it's Red's.
(http://www.thedevhome.net/forums/images/smilies/AA/bubble-holdit.gif)

Even though Ash aka Satoshi is a fake and mostly a miserable version of Red, their Pikachus are in in terms of power pretty much equals.
If Satoshi is going to battle his Pokemon Special version, I would place my money on Red, because he has more talent for battle shown as he defeated Giovanni the Ground Type Specialist with his last Pokemon at hand, Pika.

http://www.onemanga.com/Pokemon_Special/37/01/
http://www.onemanga.com/Pokemon_Special/38/01/

Red started out as a arrogant Idiot Hero, but he has grown out of it. Satoshi in the other hand wasn't allowed to receive Character Development. Even when he got one, he later received later the Character Derailment.
Now how can Satoshi for real forget, that Normal Type Attacks won't work on Ghost Tpe Pokemon? Epic fail combined with the fact that he uses his Pokedex, before he attacks Gengar.

[youtube]rcxtW19I69U[/youtube]

If you ask me, Satoshi suffers from Aesop Amnesia (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AesopAmnesia). For a child he really has a bad memory.

Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on July 11, 2010, 04:29:19 AM
Satoshi in the other hand wasn't allowed to receive Character Development. Even when he got one, he later received later the Character Derailment.
Now how can Satoshi for real forget, that Normal Type Attacks won't work on Ghost Tpe Pokemon? Epic fail combined with the fact that he uses his Pokedex, before he attacks Gengar.

[youtube]rcxtW19I69U[/youtube]

If you ask me, Satoshi suffers from Aesop Amnesia (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AesopAmnesia). For a child he really has a bad memory.
This is so true.  Ash COULD grow to the awesomeness of any trainer, but he always reverts back by the next episode.

And hell, it's not even just Ash.  One of my biggest continuity gripes with the Johto arc was the excuse they found to axe Charizard...because he's weak by "Charizard" standards (despite holding his own against F*@#ING MOLTRES), and cannot carry people on his back (even though he was already shown to do so in more than one previous episode).

"Character growth" is not in the vocabulary of the anime writers, I'd say.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on July 11, 2010, 04:57:45 AM
This is so true.  Ash COULD grow to the awesomeness of any trainer, but he always reverts back by the next episode.
"Character growth" is not in the vocabulary of the anime writers, I'd say.

The only thing I can say to this is what else do you expect from a character that stays 10 forever?  At least Red turned 16 by the Emerald saga.  It's like how Brock still hits on every single non prepubesant female even after he was dumped by Professor Ivy or how the Nurse Joy in Viridian somehow fixed Misty's bike eventhough it was burnt to a crisp, nothing in that anime makes sense.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on July 11, 2010, 05:15:55 AM
The only thing I can say to this is what else do you expect from a character that stays 10 forever?
Touche.

It's interesting how that flies in the face of various points of the Indigo and even Johto arcs, even though in terms of character-depiction, yes that is obviously what they're going for (sure, we take it in The Simpsons, but that show isn't meant to make sense).  At least two years should have passed by Spell Of The Unown (1 year between Viridian City Visits, and the Pikachu short being Ash celebrating the anniversary of their meeting), and if you take Gary's mention of Pokemon Leagues meeting once per year into consideration, Ash ought to be very nearly old enough to drive by now.

The fact that they're so stubbornly against the concept of passage of time simply means that Ash is fairly compared to Red's early days.  Ash is no worse a character than Red, he's simply denied Red's growth on the grounds of status quo.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on July 11, 2010, 05:28:23 AM
Touche.

It's interesting how that flies in the face of various points of the Indigo and even Johto arcs, even though in terms of character-depiction, yes that is obviously what they're going for (sure, we take it in The Simpsons, but that show isn't meant to make sense).  At least two years should have passed by Spell Of The Unown (1 year between Viridian City Visits, and the Pikachu short being Ash celebrating the anniversary of their meeting), and if you take Gary's mention of Pokemon Leagues meeting once per year into consideration, Ash ought to be very nearly old enough to drive by now.

The fact that they're so stubbornly against the concept of passage of time simply means that Ash is fairly compared to Red's early days.  Ash is no worse a character than Red, he's simply denied Red's growth on the grounds of status quo.

Exactly I don't understand why they made it so he never grew, there's no physical change in him other than the darker tan he got near the end of Johto if I remember correctly.  Same thing with Brock you'd think he'd be in college if they even cared about school in the first place, heck he should be the one driving a freaking RV all over the place so that way they don't have to camp out or worse stay in castles/mansions haunted by lonely ghost pokemon.  

Oy ve, non aging characters may work for american cartoons like the Simpsons and Family Guy but not for an anime as long as pokemon.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on July 11, 2010, 09:17:25 AM
Did someone say something about aging in Pokemon?

(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/8366/1278469690945.png)
(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/346/1278469747593.png)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on July 11, 2010, 09:45:38 AM
If we're taking a detour from the topic to complain about the anime, here's something that I think has been mentioned before. Ash has, from the start of the series, gone from occasionally ogling girls to not having a [tornado fang]ing clue as to what they are beyond they have bumps on their chests and a different bathroom.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 11, 2010, 10:45:05 AM
Even though Ash aka Satoshi is a fake and mostly a miserable version of Red, their Pikachus are in in terms of power pretty much equals.
If Satoshi is going to battle his Pokemon Special version, I would place my money on Red, because he has more talent for battle shown as he defeated Giovanni the Ground Type Specialist with his last Pokemon at hand, Pika.
... You do know you still proved my point right?

And remember, the anime series is just Ash in a coma dreaming up all that.
He's been in that coma ever since Pikachu first shocked him in ep1.
(http://forum.rockmanpm.com/Smileys/default/awesome.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Thanatos-Zero on July 11, 2010, 12:47:28 PM
... You do know you still proved my point right?
If Satoshi is inferiour to Red, then I proved your point, but we were talking about Satoshi's Pikachu and Red's Pika. Would they fight without their respective trainers, their battle would end up in a close draw. When the trainer is retarded and the pokemon to loyal, you know that the pokemon would follow the order, even if it knows that it would lead to nothing.

And remember, the anime series is just Ash in a coma dreaming up all that.
He's been in that coma ever since Pikachu first shocked him in ep1.
(http://forum.rockmanpm.com/Smileys/default/awesome.gif)
Just open the closed topic (http://forum.rockmanpm.com/index.php?topic=765.25) so we can talk about it once more. (It was even closed before the 30 day limit was passed. WTF? Spy Child what is your problem?)
It is indeed an astonishing theory.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 11, 2010, 01:25:57 PM
If Satoshi is inferiour to Red, then I proved your point, but we were talking about Satoshi's Pikachu and Red's Pika. Would they fight without their respective trainers, their battle would end up in a close draw. When the trainer is retarded and the pokemon to loyal, you know that the pokemon would follow the order, even if it knows that it would lead to nothing.
Just open the closed topic (http://forum.rockmanpm.com/index.php?topic=765.25) so we can talk about it once more. (It was even closed before the 30 day limit was passed. WTF? Spy Child what is your problem?)
It is indeed an astonishing theory.
And to tell you truthfully, if you REALLY want to argue about Red's and Ash's Pikachu, I have nothing else to say.

Also,
WTF? Spy Child what is your problem?
Remember a rule that stated to treat others as you want others to treat you?
Do you want to me to ask what is your problem?
No?

Seriously. >_>
The discussion can carry on fine here.

Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Thanatos-Zero on July 11, 2010, 01:53:27 PM
Also, Remember a rule that stated to treat others as you want others to treat you?
Do you want to me to ask what is your problem?
No?
I know the rule, but as she closed the thread back that time, I felt to be fooled. I had the urge to express it somehow (emotions are so irrational).
Now I'm in a ethical dilemma, since I don't know how to come up for this mistake.
I feel bad.

I'm sorry Spy Child. -__-
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 11, 2010, 02:15:19 PM
Sigh... Just try to keep them in mind next time, alright? :cookie:
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on July 11, 2010, 03:56:35 PM
Did someone say something about aging in Pokemon?
Awesome pics, man.  Though Clair makes me appreciate censorship for the sake of TV audiences (why does the Dragon gym leader have to be such a [sonic slicer], anyway?).  Brock with a goat looks cool, and you can't argue with HG/SS hair Misty.

And remember, the anime series is just Ash in a coma dreaming up all that.
He's been in that coma ever since Pikachu first shocked him in ep1.
That would explain so much.

Well, wait, he grew a LITTLE since the first ep (God willing he still remembers not to use a Caterpie against a Pidgey).  And it's not as if Ash doesn't receive enough punishment over the course of the series; in addition to all the shocks and flamethrowers to the face, he also died twice within the scope of the Indigo League.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 11, 2010, 04:04:12 PM
Well, those are nightmares then.
(http://forum.rockmanpm.com/Smileys/default/awesome.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Thanatos-Zero on July 11, 2010, 06:00:17 PM
Sigh... Just try to keep them in mind next time, alright? :cookie:
Yes I will. Thank you.^^

Now some time for nonsense.
Say have you ever had that kind of wish to kill Satoshi ala Hokotu Shin Ken?

Red:"I touched your vital point on your forehead."

Satoshi:"So what doppelgänger?"

Red:"Your brain will explode in 3 seconds faker."

Satoshi:"Nonsense! I have ne...." *head makes boom"

Red:" With that dreadful abomination gone I can finally make the anime to a masterpiece, even if I have to kill the superiours of the anime in order to do so."

(http://forum.rockmanpm.com/Smileys/default/awesome.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: GP Aznable on July 11, 2010, 06:16:11 PM
That's right, Red IS NOT Ash. Though I rarely watch it's anime, but they're doin' it wrong.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Blackhook on July 11, 2010, 06:33:23 PM
I have only two things to say: GS ball and ignored Elite 4 members.

GS ball - the writters hope you´ll forget about it
Elite 4 - they make it look as if there was only the Sinnoh E4 and forgot completely about the others (Members of which were introduced in one episode and mentioned never again...)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on July 11, 2010, 06:40:32 PM
Now some time for nonsense.
Say have you ever had that kind of wish to kill Satoshi ala Hokotu Shin Ken?

Red:"I touched your vital point on your forehead."

Satoshi:"So what doppelgänger?"

Red:"Your brain will explode in 3 seconds faker."

Satoshi:"Nonsense! I have ne...." *head makes boom"

Red:" With that dreadful abomination gone I can finally make the anime to a masterpiece, even if I have to kill the superiours of the anime in order to do so."

(http://forum.rockmanpm.com/Smileys/default/awesome.gif)
that was [tornado fang]ing dumb
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Thanatos-Zero on July 11, 2010, 07:31:18 PM
that was [tornado fang]ing dumb
As I said, nonsense.
You actually want to Giga Drill (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Crz4_UofhS0) Satoshi to oblivion, ne?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 11, 2010, 07:35:23 PM
... No more nonsense. B(
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on July 11, 2010, 08:33:10 PM
... You do know you still proved my point right?

And remember, the anime series is just Ash in a coma dreaming up all that.
He's been in that coma ever since Pikachu first shocked him in ep1.
(http://forum.rockmanpm.com/Smileys/default/awesome.gif)

God damn coma endings, didn't you have enough with ruining Doraemon and Captain Tsubasa? D:

Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on July 11, 2010, 08:43:16 PM
Well, those are nightmares then.
What I meant was that there are plenty of opportunities besides ep1 for comas.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on July 11, 2010, 08:48:22 PM
It's not a good coma ending unless EVERYTHING is a dream while in a coma 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on July 12, 2010, 12:29:30 AM
Well there is the Pokémon Adventures anime coming this fall... 8D

I really can't wait for(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/dakirbymaster/Kobuns/KoolaidKobunTRUEFINAL.png)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on July 12, 2010, 12:39:40 AM
Well there is the Pokémon Adventures anime coming this fall... 8D

I really can't wait for(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/dakirbymaster/Kobuns/KoolaidKobunTRUEFINAL.png)
Wait, as in based off the manga!? AWESOME!!!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on July 12, 2010, 12:42:17 AM
I think so, yes.
(http://i.imgur.com/NZFzi.jpg)
If this is to be believed.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on July 12, 2010, 12:44:52 AM
I think so, yes.
(http://i.imgur.com/NZFzi.jpg)
If this is to be believed.
Whoa... There's also Phoenix Wright, Persona 4, and Yotsuba&. @.@
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Acid on July 12, 2010, 12:47:50 AM
It's fake.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on July 12, 2010, 12:50:34 AM
It's fake.
*sigh* Figures...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Thanatos-Zero on July 12, 2010, 12:51:31 AM
Well there is the Pokémon Adventures anime coming this fall... 8D

I really can't wait for(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/dakirbymaster/Kobuns/KoolaidKobunTRUEFINAL.png)

Don't forget to give Red a cape, shades and a drill to pierce the hea.. ehm a pokeball to gotta catch them all!  -u-'

One thing is for certain, I want a legendary with drills now.

I think so, yes.
(http://i.imgur.com/NZFzi.jpg)
If this is to be believed.

Prepare the scanlaters and the translating groups! We are going down to town and show them how manly Pokemon truly are.
Ash? Blarrgh! Just who in the hell do you think we are?! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-T4g86KkNg)

It's fake.
What is the evidence for being a fake? There might be a portion truth in it.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on July 12, 2010, 12:55:57 AM
Hence why I said, "If this is to be believed."
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on July 12, 2010, 02:29:53 AM
Ace Attorney anime is too damn awesome to ever be true.

There's also a lot of obvious region-mixing in that image.  U.S. logos with Japanese character names, and all.

It's not a good coma ending unless EVERYTHING is a dream while in a coma 8D
Well, I'd just like it if when he woke up, Misty was there instead of his mother.

I'd also rather not write Mewtwo's stories out of continuity if it can be helped.  'cuz Mewtwo is awesome.  Hell, make him the means by which Ash gets out of whatever acid trip he's on, and we go full-circle.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 12, 2010, 07:37:51 AM
What I meant was that there are plenty of opportunities besides ep1 for comas.
Perhaps.
But it's a Pikachu. A Pikachu unlike any other Pikachu. A Pikachu that Team Rocket wants to steal for Giovanni.
Fear its powah.
(http://forum.rockmanpm.com/Smileys/default/awesome.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on July 12, 2010, 07:42:22 AM
What I meant was that there are plenty of opportunities besides ep1 for comas.
I say he got the coma after his third badge, when he said he was seeing stars. 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Thanatos-Zero on July 12, 2010, 08:01:33 AM
Perhaps.
But it's a Pikachu. A Pikachu unlike any other Pikachu. A Pikachu that Team Rocket wants to steal for Giovanni.
Fear its powah.
(http://forum.rockmanpm.com/Smileys/default/awesome.gif)

Team Rocket.... Blasting off in any episode in that show and still surving any impact with mother earth is a sign of their stubborness to not to give up. They will not give up until they acomplished the goal. Credits goes where credits goes, but honestly they should train on themselves, otherwise we won't get to see them in their own spinoff series.
Just who in the hell do you think they are?!
Sadly... Just retarded meatbags...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 12, 2010, 08:21:20 AM
... Can you PLEASE stop with the TTGL references?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on July 12, 2010, 08:28:01 AM
Oh thank god the anime is too short to be ruined for me, but seriously stop.  This is obviously not the place for it and it'll only make things worse for you than they already are.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Thanatos-Zero on July 12, 2010, 10:48:44 AM
I guess it can't be helped, so I will stop with the references. Too bad that you don't feel the same sensation I currently feel about TTGL.

You know that Ash faces Giovanni for the first time in the "Mewtwo Returns" special, but instead to make it as epic as it happens in the manga twice, they just dropped it.
Indeed a Missed Moment Of Awesome.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on July 12, 2010, 11:01:24 AM
They were getting annoying... it's enough that it's in your sig...

Also... I still wish I had this...
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 12, 2010, 11:12:50 AM
I guess it can't be helped, so I will stop with the references. Too bad that you don't feel the same sensation I currently feel about TTGL.
I love TTGL, but do you see me spamming TTGL refs and quotes everywhere on this board to show how much I love it?

Seriously, you are making me hate TTGL now.
I hope you are happy.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on July 12, 2010, 11:25:39 AM
Now the cat's shaking his head at you disapprovingly!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Thanatos-Zero on July 12, 2010, 12:10:23 PM
I love TTGL, but do you see me spamming TTGL refs and quotes everywhere on this board to show how much I love it?

Seriously, you are making me hate TTGL now.
I hope you are happy.

I assume your problem is that you all have to much resentment lately from your personal lifes as much as I had back in the past. You say that you hate TTGL, but is me where your hate is directed. Either you and the others are jealous that I can feel that joy or you can't just understand or comprehend the person who is me. I thought I would spread good karma on the boards, but instead I envoke your anger.

It is not rare that we are going Off-Topic that often. I personaly had problems first when I came to RPM.  I was duty obsessed from the forum I came first and I pointed out in some of my first posts that some have gone Off-Topic, but I was somewhat ignored and fooled by some.
To make it for everyone comfortable, I dropped it and I tried to adapt myself to become more like you.
However the more I try to be a good person, the more it backfires to me.

So the question is how you do see me from your viewpoint.
Am I a symphatic or unappealing person?

By now my emotions are telling me that you want not to see me here ever again. Is it true, that you the majority want me do be banned here right now?

I understand by now that I have gone to far, so do now your duty and decide what you truly want. Punishment goes where it needs to be done and I accept it.

In all matters humans are bastards, they don't like each other but to feed upon each other until they are no longer needed. We live in a crapsack world.

Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Legendary on July 19, 2010, 04:31:25 PM
I'm bored. Anybody looking for a battle, preferably UU?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on July 23, 2010, 08:49:52 PM
Just for the heck and fun of it, I decided to create a "pantheon" of Pokemon based on the heroes of DC Comics. It's not meant for practicality but I'd enjoy it anyway.

So far I have:
Salamance - "Superman"
Crobat - "Batman" (Of course!)
Sceptile - "Green Lantern"
Jolteon - "Flash"
Blaziken - "Firestorm"
Swampert - "Aquaman"
Gengar - "Spectre"
(Some Psychic type) - "Zatanna" or "Fate"

Anyone have any other suggestions, and/or movesets?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on July 23, 2010, 10:32:06 PM
A standard moveset for Salamence, as Hypershell said, would be Earthquake, Outrage, Fire Blast, and Dragon Dance, although you have to breed to get Dragon Dance so you might want to consider Double Team or something.

Sceptile is a Special Sweeper it'd probably be a good idea to teach it Energy Ball, Focus Blast, Dragon Pulse, and Synthesis.  The problem with Sceptile is he only has those 3 special moves that he can learn plus he'll still have trouble against Flying and Fire pokemon.  

My recomendation it to swicth him out with a Tortera because most of your pokemon are built for Speed and he has a great physical attack power, physical defense, and a move set that can be adjustable and cover a lot of his weaknesses.  Not to mention he gets a STAB Earthquake and Wood Hammer, and he has good HP and Defense so he could survive it and the next attack.  Wood Hammer, Earthquake, Stone Edge, and Synthesis is what I would do but I recomend staying away from Ice types.

Blaziken, oh god how I love my Blaziken.  This guy was made for type veraity: Flare Blitz, Earthquake, Shadow Claw, and Sky Uppercut.  You could switch out Shadow Claw for Stone Edge if you're deftly afraid of Flying types but chances are that said Flying type would be much faster than him so I wouldn't recomend it plus it's great for taking out a Gardevoir since it's slow and has some bad Physical Defense.

Swampert's not exactly my cup of tea but he's still a good pokemon.  Pretty much the same move set as my Feraligatr only his Earthquake is STAB too.  Aqua Tail, Earthquake, Ice Punch, Mirror Coat.  Now this is a lot of work!  It can't learn Aqua Tail, Ice Punch and Mirror Coat naturaly.  First you need to breed a female Swampert, or other pre evolve form, with a compatible male pokemon to get Mirror Coat or go to the Battle Frontier.  Second you need to spend a lot of time at the trainer House and Battle Frontier to get BP for the other moves and you need a total of 104, I have no idea how much Mirror Coat is but it'll add to the 104.

Crobat not one that I would work with but he has some very decent moves.  Cross Poison, Brave Bird, X Scissor/U Turn, Steel Wing/Agility/Double Team.  Now there's only a little work for this breeding a female with a male for Brave Bird and getting a heart scale for Cross Poison but at least it's not near imposible like with Swampert.


Jolteon is pretty easy to do as long as you stay far far away from Ground types.  Thunderbolt, Shadow Ball, Signal Beam, Agility/Double Team  Again go to the Battle Frontier to get Signal Beam but those are the only Special Moves it can learn.

Gengar is another pokemon I don't work with but I can figure something out.  Shadow Ball, Thunderbolt/Thunder, Energy Ball/Dream Eater, Hypnosis/Rain Dance/Double Team.  Well I guess you can use him to power up your own moves, I don't know I don't work with him.

Now for the Psychic type the best, in my opinion, are Espeon, Gardevoir, Gallade, and Hypershell's favorite Mewtwo.  Espeon is basicly a clone of Jolteon except replacing Thunderbolt with Psychic, but hey it works for Will Gallent's Speed team since he has both.  

Gardevoir is my obvious favorite because of it's High Special Defense and her move set can take out a Vaporeon and Mewtwo.   Psychic, Shadow Ball, Thunder Bolt/Energy Ball, Light Screen.  Basicly pick your poison Gardevior can also learn Trick Room but it's not really worth it.

Gallade is the same thing execpt you replace the first 3 moves with Psycho Cut, X Scissor, and Thunder Punch.  He can learn Stone Edge but you might not want that since it only has 5 PP.

Mewtwo, Okay I have to admit he's probably the best pokemon for covering all his weaknesses.   Psychic, Shadow Ball, Aura Sphere, Flamthrower/Fire Blast/any Support Move you want.  Yeah I don't exactly know the best way to use a Mewtwo but the possibilities are endless for One on One.  Ask Hypershell for more details.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on July 23, 2010, 10:49:46 PM
Danke, and I'm also looking for Pokemon to model on the classic (i.e. Satellite era) Justice League so I'm wondering what I can use for Martian Manhunter, Atom, Hawkman (I'm thinking Skarmory), Green Arrow, Black Canary, and Red Tornado.

Yeah, I know Spectre was never a member of the League (unless you count Hal Jordan's tenure as Spectre) but Gengar's one of my favorite Pokemon so... I had to include him somehow.  8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Legendary on July 24, 2010, 09:12:04 PM
Anybody have a spare Kelpsy Berry? I need to wipe some Attack EVs.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on July 25, 2010, 04:36:04 AM
I think Gardevoir would make a pretty good Zatanna.  Mewtwo or Alakazam for Fate.

Swellow ought to make a great Black Canary (Guts+Endeavor+Flame/Toxic Orb = pain).

How about Tyranitar for Green Arrow?  Tossing rocks is probably about as close to the "arrow" motif as you're going to get.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Legendary on July 25, 2010, 06:23:07 PM
Either him or Scyther. Ludicolo even has the hat to go along with the design, but he doesn't do anything arrow-ish in particular
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Legendary on July 26, 2010, 04:39:50 AM
So...Does anybody here have an AR or PokeSav?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on July 26, 2010, 06:52:32 AM
So...Does anybody here have an AR or PokeSav?
I have an AR!
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Legendary on July 26, 2010, 09:30:12 AM
Need some eggs traded into my Heart Gold from my Diamond, if it's not too much trouble.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Legendary on July 27, 2010, 04:20:52 AM
Okay, barring the above, does anybody else have an AR?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Satoryu on August 01, 2010, 12:23:20 AM
Hey guys, I usually don't get to use my DS online. Gotta do this within the next few hours. Does anyone have a Heart Gold Kyogre I can borrow and trade back? My friend code is 0561-1471-0280.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on August 01, 2010, 01:03:16 AM
No.. but I got an Emerald Kyogre if ya want.  :\
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Satoryu on August 01, 2010, 01:07:23 AM
I want to catch the Rayquaza that's available in my game. It's the only thing left that I can do in the game.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on August 01, 2010, 01:22:16 AM
So, it's a HG Kyogre only thing eh? Oh well. I've done apparently everything in SS because the special events are few and far between.  -u-'
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on August 01, 2010, 08:42:04 AM
I got the enigma stone and caught Latios. Hmm. I wonder if I should train up a Latios or Latias?

Hey guys, I usually don't get to use my DS online. Gotta do this within the next few hours. Does anyone have a Heart Gold Kyogre I can borrow and trade back? My friend code is 0561-1471-0280.

I can lend you mine if you still need it
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on August 01, 2010, 08:43:06 AM
I got the enigma stone and caught Latios.

Same. :v

I still need to get the Enigma Stone in my SS.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on August 01, 2010, 08:43:50 AM
I still need to get the Enigma Stone in my SS.

Same. :v
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Police Girl on August 02, 2010, 09:52:53 AM
Same. :v

I want it but my Wi-fi is being a [sonic slicer].

Also, beat the [parasitic bomb] out of red. I pussied out and transferred all my good Pokemon from Platinum (Two Rayquaza's, the Starters, Kyogre.) to my SoulSilver.

What Kanto starter should i choose, I picked Totodile for my Actual Starter. so i'm thinking either Charmander or Bulbasaur.
Getting a Hoenn Starter won't be so tough, since it doesn't matter because I already have all 3 on my File.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on August 02, 2010, 06:46:47 PM
Also, beat the [parasitic bomb] out of red. I pussied out and transferred all my good Pokemon from Platinum (Two Rayquaza's, the Starters, Kyogre.) to my SoulSilver.

Importing is basically what I did to do the same thing, except I've done it all the way through the game. Also, where did the other Raquaza come from anyway?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Police Girl on August 03, 2010, 01:57:53 AM
A pal of mine (Quite an idiot, I might add.), I gave him my Groudon (He had Sapphire and Emerald, and gave me Emerald.) And he gave me a few pokemon, namely His Blaziken (Only lvl 49 somehow, he undertrains.) and his Lvl 87 Rayquaza (Which I don't think was his to begin with.)

I also transferred a few of the Pokemon I can't get in SoulSilver. Namely Spinarak, Gligar, and Houndoom. I plan on transferring the rest of my Emerald Collection over soon.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Legendary on August 19, 2010, 12:32:08 AM
Alright, feeling up for a battle. Anybody wanna go?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 19, 2010, 12:59:17 AM
I would but my Wi-Fi isn't compatible with DS games anymore.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Legendary on August 19, 2010, 01:33:25 AM
That's odd. Oh well then.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on August 19, 2010, 01:37:04 AM
I would but my Wi-Fi isn't compatible with DS games anymore.
I have the same issue. I have to go to some place like McDonald's for compatible WiFi.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Legendary on August 19, 2010, 01:49:14 AM
That's odd, how come the DS's wifi is being iffy like that?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 19, 2010, 01:56:26 AM
It's because there are 2 types of Wi-Fi and DS games for some reason don't work on one of them.  Wii games don't have that problem however.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on August 19, 2010, 07:11:52 PM
Indeed. DS games are only compatible with WEA encryption, which is less secure that WPA/WPA2 encryption (that is compatible with the Wii) but the odd thing is that WPA-compatible devices started coming on to the market in 2003. So I wonder why Nintendo did not make their DS games WPA-friendly when the technology existed at the DS's release. I don't think we will ever know why.

However, I have an inkling that the 5th Generation will be able to work with WPA encryption, but you need a DSi for that.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 19, 2010, 09:48:57 PM
Either that or a 3DS since I have a DSi XL.  The shop and internet work fine but not the games.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VirusChris on August 19, 2010, 10:03:52 PM
Anyone have a Mudkip I can trade for? That's the only Hoenn Starter Pokemon I don't have, I'll trade it with my Torchic or other Pokemon if you like.

SoulSilver FC: 2665-4308-6166


After collecting a certain amount of Pokemon I'm going to build my ideal Pokemon, but I have no idea what to do for the 6th member of my team. Making sure there's no Legendaries in my team, but I'm stuck on that part. Have no what good Grass, Flying, or Normal type Pokemon to add to my team and I can't seem to find a good Dragon type with good defense against its secondary weakness.

I'll figure it out eventually.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 19, 2010, 10:05:29 PM
What do you have so far?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VirusChris on August 19, 2010, 10:08:47 PM
I have all 131 Pokemon in my Pokedex so far, all three Kanto, Johto Starters, Treeko and Torchic, a bunch of Pikachus because of the PokeWalker, Bonsly Female, Safari Pokemon (Tauros and Kangaskahn Female), Clefairy, Hitmonchan and Hitmontop, and pretty much most of the common Pokemon.


What would you like? Or an item perhaps?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 19, 2010, 10:09:41 PM
Oh sorry I meant your team, I can't trade you but I can help with your team.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VirusChris on August 19, 2010, 10:29:51 PM
Because of my computer freezing on me yesterday that data I put into making my team was gone so now I have to remember what they were. Going to Bulbapedia to re-search the moves again.

CHARMELEON
*Flamethrower
*Dragon Claw
*Thunder Punch (Tutor)
*Brick Break

PIKACHU
*Thunderbolt
*Brick Break
*Double Team
*Dig

SABLEYE
*Shadow Ball
*Zen Headbutt
*Aerial Ace
*Double Team

MARSHTOMP
*Blizzard
*Muddy Water
*Superpower (Tutor)
*Protect

RIOLU
*Focus Blast
*Shadow Claw
*Earthquake
*Sword Dance


I did not know Charmeleon could learn Thunder Punch from the Tutor guy, very nice and convenient. Sheesh I can't remember what I originally had for them, but I got at least 3 out of the 4 moves for all of them (Charmeleon and Riolu I'm not totally sure yet).

I planning on making a team of only Base and 2nd Form, no Final Form evolution except for Sableye who doesn't evolve. I want to see how far I go with this team. Trying to add in some support moves that greatly help my team in any situation or fight off enemies they're weak to.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 19, 2010, 11:14:58 PM
My honest opinion is they probably wouldn't get very far, especialy if your planning to go through the Battle Frotier or fight trainers who have pokemon that they've EV trained.  I mean why do you think Ash loses the Pokemon League all the time? 

Plus the move sets for your Pokemon don't really go well with what they do best.  Take your Charmeleon for example: most of the moves you're teaching him are Physical the moves he does better with are special moves the problem is since you're limiting yourself to not evolving them fully they also can't learn the best moves for them.  The moves I recomemend for Charmeleon are Flamethrower, Dragon Rage, Ancient Power, and Toxic since those are the most powerful special moves it can learn, Toxic will be a big annoyance to your opponent, and if you're lucky Ancient Power can raise all your stats.

Now lets compare that to a full grown Charizard that can learn even more moves.   The moves set I would make for him would be Flamethrower, Dragon Pulse, Solar Beam, and Sunny Day.  Flamethrower gets STAB, Dragon Pulse can take care of Dragons threataning to kill an Ice type with a Fire type move and Sunny Day and Solar Beam combined with Charizard's high Speed can destroy all his weaknesses except electric if you use Sunny on your first turn.

Marshstomp is better with Physical moves but if you did evolve it it's a hell of a lot of work to do.  Riolu, since you're not planning to evolve it is okay since his Physical is better than his special but if you did evolve him it's special gets much better but his Physical is still high so you can make him either way.  Pikachu can go either way evolution or no evolution.

Now the biggest problem is Sableye, out of all the pokemon that can't evolve it's probably one of the worst.  Granted he has no weakness and he's a little better with Physical attacks his stats suck so bad that he can't put anything to good use.  Spirit Tomb is a much better pokemon since his stats are better but mostly even so there is a lot you can do with customization.  Plus your team really really needs the defense he can give.

Now for the sixth you can cover your pokemon well but I think you might need some Omph with attack or defense with that since they are severly weak but honestly I can't think of anything since you seriously love to to restrict your self a lot so I don't think I can help you at all, good luck dude you need all the help you can get.

Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Police Girl on August 20, 2010, 01:58:31 AM
MARSHTOMP

Wait, if you have Marshtomp why do you need Mudkip? Just get an egg for it.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 20, 2010, 03:14:32 AM
Wait, if you have Marshtomp why do you need Mudkip? Just get an egg for it.
I don't think he has it yet.  This must be an idea of what he wants on a team.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Police Girl on August 20, 2010, 03:43:25 AM
Well, that makes more sense.

I should probably try to train a better team... one with some balance.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 20, 2010, 03:59:39 AM
You should probably try to EV train this time, but you probably won't.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VirusChris on August 20, 2010, 04:20:17 AM
My honest opinion is they probably wouldn't get very far, especialy if your planning to go through the Battle Frotier or fight trainers who have pokemon that they've EV trained.  I mean why do you think Ash loses the Pokemon League all the time? 

Plus the move sets for your Pokemon don't really go well with what they do best.  Take your Charmeleon for example: most of the moves you're teaching him are Physical the moves he does better with are special moves the problem is since you're limiting yourself to not evolving them fully they also can't learn the best moves for them.  The moves I recomemend for Charmeleon are Flamethrower, Dragon Rage, Ancient Power, and Toxic since those are the most powerful special moves it can learn, Toxic will be a big annoyance to your opponent, and if you're lucky Ancient Power can raise all your stats.

Now lets compare that to a full grown Charizard that can learn even more moves.   The moves set I would make for him would be Flamethrower, Dragon Pulse, Solar Beam, and Sunny Day.  Flamethrower gets STAB, Dragon Pulse can take care of Dragons threataning to kill an Ice type with a Fire type move and Sunny Day and Solar Beam combined with Charizard's high Speed can destroy all his weaknesses except electric if you use Sunny on your first turn.

Marshstomp is better with Physical moves but if you did evolve it it's a hell of a lot of work to do.  Riolu, since you're not planning to evolve it is okay since his Physical is better than his special but if you did evolve him it's special gets much better but his Physical is still high so you can make him either way.  Pikachu can go either way evolution or no evolution.

Now the biggest problem is Sableye, out of all the pokemon that can't evolve it's probably one of the worst.  Granted he has no weakness and he's a little better with Physical attacks his stats suck so bad that he can't put anything to good use.  Spirit Tomb is a much better pokemon since his stats are better but mostly even so there is a lot you can do with customization.  Plus your team really really needs the defense he can give.

Now for the sixth you can cover your pokemon well but I think you might need some Omph with attack or defense with that since they are severly weak but honestly I can't think of anything since you seriously love to to restrict your self a lot so I don't think I can help you at all, good luck dude you need all the help you can get.



I see, that's very interesting. I guess I need to look at their base stats first, but with a helpfully nature I can get more points to a certain for the moves no? Plus IV also helps in that area.

I have never done any IV/EV Training and this will be the first time doing it.



The reason I'm restricting myself to these type of Pokemon as I wanted to make the best Base/2nd Form Team instead of Fully Evolved Pokemon and EV train them to the best of their abilities. Going to take a long time to get them where I want. Originally Mew and Darkrai were going to be on my team and originally a Wartortle instead of a Marshtomp and I didn't plan on adding Sableye until later.

I want to build a powerful team from some unlikely group of Pokemon, but this is for battling other trainers and such.


Also I didn't have a Mudkip and to get a Marshtomp I need a Mudkip to breed and evolve and I finally got one from a trade. Right now I'm breeding some Pokemon, right now Eevee and evolving them into their different forms, to trade away for other Pokemon. I need to build my Pokedex, I hate how you can't find a Pokemon you want on GTS without seeing it first.


And thank you Sakura, I'll look to change some moves on my Pokemon.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 20, 2010, 04:33:18 AM
Okay since I know you are going to EV train I highly recommend you get an Action Replay.  The Action Replay not only gives you the items you need but you can actually check your EV/IVs with it too.  And I like Wartortle better than Marshstomp since it has better Defense and it won't get murdered by Grass type moves as easily as Marshstomp plus it's not as much work if later on you do want to evolve your pokemon.  Teach it Special moves and if you're lucky enough to get a Female teach and Male compatiple pokemon Mirror Coat and Sludge and breed like the wind.

Also I'm serious about replacing the Sableye with Spirit Tomb.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Police Girl on August 20, 2010, 07:08:16 AM
Well, Sakura. I would like to get to EV Training, do you have any ideas on how to build a good team around a Feraligatr?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 20, 2010, 07:24:55 AM
Dude of course I do, I have a Feralgatr on mine after all.  Basicly train an Impish Totodile for Physical Attack and Defense. Teach it Aqua Tail, Ice Punch, Earthquake, and Dragon Dance.  You have to chain breed for Dragon Dance but it you're lazy like I am teach it some kind of other support move.  I know you hate the Battle Frotier but you have to go through it for Ice Punch it'll be worth it.

Now my question is what other types of pokemon do you like because I have a few opitions I can offer, by that I mean Fire, Grass, Electric etc.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Police Girl on August 20, 2010, 08:12:48 AM
Ahh, my Feraligatr is Naive, his Attack is 188, Defense 185. Sp.Attack is 141, Sp.Defense is 128, and Speed is 177.

The moves it has are not so great however.

It currently has Ice Beam, Return, Hydro Pump, and Surf. It did have Aqua Tail at one Point, but I replaced it for Ice Beam in a foolish move.

And besides water, I tend to have a liking for Flying, Fire, Electric, and Grass. I personally don't really like using Rock for their abundance of Weaknesses, and I don't see much in the Steel, Ghost, or Dragon Varietys.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 20, 2010, 08:40:51 AM
Ahh, my Feraligatr is Naive, his Attack is 188, Defense 185. Sp.Attack is 141, Sp.Defense is 128, and Speed is 177.

The moves it has are not so great however.

It currently has Ice Beam, Return, Hydro Pump, and Surf. It did have Aqua Tail at one Point, but I replaced it for Ice Beam in a foolish move.

And besides water, I tend to have a liking for Flying, Fire, Electric, and Grass. I personally don't really like using Rock for their abundance of Weaknesses, and I don't see much in the Steel, Ghost, or Dragon Varietys.

Get a swarm of Dittos and an Action Replay.  The Action Replay may be cheating but I only use it for items and checking EVs and IVs and it makes so you can't screw up without knowing.  The swarm helps with other Natures you need. 

Now for the Flying types I are usually types I don't like myself save for Salamence but I can reccomend a decent one that you can try but I've never used it, Crobat and I quoted what I said for Crobat when Pyro was making his super hero team below.

Crobat not one that I would work with but he has some very decent moves.  Cross Poison, Brave Bird, X Scissor/U Turn, Steel Wing/Agility/Double Team.  Now there's only a little work for this breeding a female with a male for Brave Bird and getting a heart scale for Cross Poison but at least it's not near imposible like with Swampert.

Train an Adamant one to max it's Attack as much as possible since it's speed is still pretty high.

For Grass use a Impish Leafeon for a danm good Defense and it can heal it's self.  Synthesis, Leaf Blade, X-Scissor, and Iron Tail is the move set that I think could work.  He can basicly be the main tank of your team and can take out a few pokemon and heal.

For Fire I recommend any Fire Starter except Typholsion.  But it depends on what you want Blaziken is used for type veraiety to support your other pokemon, Charizard is decent speed Special Sweeper that can cover Earthquake but makes you more vulnerable as to Electic attacks and Infernape can do their jobs better but I find him cheap.

Electric types aren't ones I normaly use either but try Jolteon or Electivire follow the Crobat quote for Jolteon.  Electivire is a Physical attacker with a little above average speed so use Thunder Punch, Iron Tail, Earthquake and Light Screen.

For number six I recommend Gardevoir since you don't like Rock Types and you need a Special wall follow the quote for Gardevoir and give it Calm MInd for Support.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Police Girl on August 20, 2010, 09:13:24 AM
Get a swarm of Dittos and an Action Replay.  The Action Replay may be cheating but I only use it for items and checking EVs and IVs and it makes so you can't screw up without knowing.  The swarm helps with other Natures you need. 

Now for the Flying types I are usually types I don't like myself save for Salamence but I can reccomend a decent one that you can try but I've never used it, Crobat and I quoted what I said for Crobat when Pyro was making his super hero team below.

Train an Adamant one to max it's Attack as much as possible since it's speed is still pretty high.

For Grass use a Impish Leafeon for a danm good Defense and it can heal it's self.  Synthesis, Leaf Blade, X-Scissor, and Iron Tail is the move set that I think could work.  He can basicly be the main tank of your team and can take out a few pokemon and heal.

For Fire I recommend any Fire Starter except Typholsion.  But it depends on what you want Blaziken is used for type veraiety to support your other pokemon, Charizard is decent speed Special Sweeper that can cover Earthquake but makes you more vulnerable as to Electic attacks and Infernape can do their jobs better but I find him cheap.

Electric types aren't ones I normaly use either but try Jolteon or Electivire follow the Crobat quote for Jolteon.  Electivire is a Physical attacker with a little above average speed so use Thunder Punch, Iron Tail, Earthquake and Light Screen.

For number six I recommend Gardevoir since you don't like Rock Types and you need a Special wall follow the quote for Gardevoir and give it Calm MInd for Support.

About the Leafeon, which Level would you Reccomend I evolve it at?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VirusChris on August 20, 2010, 03:12:37 PM
Okay since I know you are going to EV train I highly recommend you get an Action Replay.  The Action Replay not only gives you the items you need but you can actually check your EV/IVs with it too.  And I like Wartortle better than Marshstomp since it has better Defense and it won't get murdered by Grass type moves as easily as Marshstomp plus it's not as much work if later on you do want to evolve your pokemon.  Teach it Special moves and if you're lucky enough to get a Female teach and Male compatiple pokemon Mirror Coat and Sludge and breed like the wind.

Also I'm serious about replacing the Sableye with Spirit Tomb.

I can't update my old v1 Action Replay because the cable doesn't work anymore and my other v1.6 Action Replay I busted somehow when using a code in a game, can't remember which, so I cannot add any games as there's "no free space" but I have no game lists in it anymore. Oh well, but I'm going to my local GameStop today to buy the DSi Action Replay, this Action Replay works on the original and Lite DS's right? Plus I'm going to re-buy Sapphire version as I somehow lost all my Pokemon Gameboy Advance games... all I got left are the original Red version, Yellow, Gold, Silver, FireRed, Diamond, and Pearl.

I lost LeafGreen, Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald, and Platinum versions and I lost my Blue version a long time ago as I gave it to someone on the bus years ago in Elementary School to play my game a bit and when I went over to get it back she didn't had it anymore and didn't know where it was. What the heck!? I give it to you for alike 10 to 20 mins and you lost it on a bus!? Well I never let that girl burrow my stuff again unless I was close by keeping a watch.

It sucks that all that hours of hard work were wasted. Weird thing is this only happens to me with Pokemon, it's like a curse with me losing my Pokemon games.



Anyway, sorry for the rant, the Spirit Tomb does have good defense that helps a lot but how do I get one? What Pokemon should I trade with to get one? Until I get a Spirit Tomb, I'll find a Sableye until then.

After I build this team I'll build a team of Fully Evolved Pokemon. That Charizard build is a very nice one, and I thank you for that Sakura.
Still can't figure out what to do for a 6th Member... how about Aerodactyl? That a good?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 20, 2010, 07:33:59 PM
About the Leafeon, which Level would you Reccomend I evolve it at?
Anytime is good.


I can't update my old v1 Action Replay because the cable doesn't work anymore and my other v1.6 Action Replay I busted somehow when using a code in a game, can't remember which, so I cannot add any games as there's "no free space" but I have no game lists in it anymore. Oh well, but I'm going to my local GameStop today to buy the DSi Action Replay, this Action Replay works on the original and Lite DS's right? Plus I'm going to re-buy Sapphire version as I somehow lost all my Pokemon Gameboy Advance games... all I got left are the original Red version, Yellow, Gold, Silver, FireRed, Diamond, and Pearl.
Yes the Action Replay works on the DS Lite, DSi and DSi XL.


Anyway, sorry for the rant, the Spirit Tomb does have good defense that helps a lot but how do I get one? What Pokemon should I trade with to get one? Until I get a Spirit Tomb, I'll find a Sableye until then.

After I build this team I'll build a team of Fully Evolved Pokemon. That Charizard build is a very nice one, and I thank you for that Sakura.
Still can't figure out what to do for a 6th Member... how about Aerodactyl? That a good?
You need to talk to 32 people in the underground or talk to one person 32, can't be a merchant, times by going in and out and stuff or GTS if you're lucky.  And I said trade out the Sableye.  Anyway I don't recomend Areodactly since you'll have a Charizard, try Metagross.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VirusChris on August 20, 2010, 08:49:46 PM
I thought I read somewhere that you can get a Spirit Tomb from the Poke Walker at a certain area. I'll look into that.
And I would switch out Sableye for Spirit Tomb if I got Spirit Tomb, plus I don't have any Sableye at all. Time to go feel the Pokedex.


Yeah after posting about the Aerodactly, it was a bad choice since it weak to Electric type attacks because of its Flying Type even though it's a Rock Type if I remember if that's right. A Metagross? I guess I'll add him for my Fully Evolved Team and have its pre-evolved form as my Basic/2nd Form Team.

Basic/2nd Form Team

*CHARMELEON
*PIKACHU
*WARTORTLE
*RIOLU
*METANG
*SPIRIT TOMB

Fully Evolved Team

*CHARIZARD
*BLASTOISE
*RAICHU
*METAGROSS
*LUCARIO
*SPIRIT TOMB
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Police Girl on August 20, 2010, 10:40:47 PM
I thought I read somewhere that you can get a Spirit Tomb from the Poke Walker at a certain area. I'll look into that.
And I would switch out Sableye for Spirit Tomb if I got Spirit Tomb, plus I don't have any Sableye at all. Time to go feel the Pokedex.


Yeah after posting about the Aerodactly, it was a bad choice since it weak to Electric type attacks because of its Flying Type even though it's a Rock Type if I remember if that's right. A Metagross? I guess I'll add him for my Fully Evolved Team and have its pre-evolved form as my Basic/2nd Form Team.

Basic/2nd Form Team

*CHARMELEON
*PIKACHU
*WARTORTLE
*RIOLU
*METANG
*SPIRIT TOMB

Fully Evolved Team

*CHARIZARD
*BLASTOISE
*RAICHU
*METAGROSS
*LUCARIO
*SPIRIT TOMB

Actually, despite what was originally thought, Rock Types can be hit by Electricity. The only reason you couldn't kill Geodude and Onix with Pikachu in Yellow is because of the Ground type.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VirusChris on August 20, 2010, 11:32:14 PM
^You sure? I mean in the anime, yeah, Electric attacks work on Rock type, but in the game versions too? I'm not totally convinced yet until I've seen it, going to look around.

This ticks me off, my GameStop store had only 1 DSi Action Replay left and when I go to the store today it was gone so I have to order online for one. Good grief, have to add an extra $7 for it now.

And the employee said that the new firmware for the DSi makes the Action Replay useless and have been discontinued. Is he serious? Well I have the DS Lite so I'm not trouble plus hackers will get around it eventually.



Going to be a while before I can check my Pokemon's IV and EV stats. >_>



EDIT: I looked it up, I was wrong. Rock-types can be affected by Electric attacks. That's interesting and good to know.
I'll have to take a look at what Pokemon is a Rock type without Ground type as its secondary type.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Police Girl on August 22, 2010, 08:58:34 AM
I feel this is the right place to say it:

Voltorb Flip is a load of Bullshit that can go [tornado fang] itself in a firey pit filled with Used Needles from Heroin Junkies and rabid dogs with rabies.

I want my goddamn Slot-Machines back Nintendo, I don't [tornado fang]ing care if it makes Soccer Mom's [sonic slicer] (They [sonic slicer] about anything if they find some abstract way to make it innapropriate.). I'd rather have Pure Luck based games instead of ones involving strategy and [tornado fang]ing MATH FORMULAS. Because when you think of Pokemon, you really think of Math Formulas and Minesweeper.  -AC
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on August 22, 2010, 07:04:55 PM
Quote
Because when you think of Pokemon, you really think of Math Formulas

Some people do. They're the ones who EV/IV train.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Police Girl on August 25, 2010, 11:17:20 AM
Some people do. They're the ones who EV/IV train.

But even then... EV training is more about killing the right pokemon. IV training is all about god damn breeding and luck. Also leveling the same Pokemon 50 million times.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on August 28, 2010, 08:59:00 PM
Excuse me, STM, but EV/IV training is not seeing Pokemon as math formulas.  You're thinking of Shoddy battlers.  EV/IV training is a simple matter of having no life.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on August 29, 2010, 04:55:41 AM
Excuse me, STM, but EV/IV training is not seeing Pokemon as math formulas.  You're thinking of Shoddy battlers.  EV/IV training is a simple matter of having no life.

Which fits the bill for me since I bred Torchics Magical Platypus knows how many times.
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: VirusChris on September 07, 2010, 09:45:43 PM
Charmeleon
*Flamethrower
*Ancient Power
*Dragon Rage
*Toxic

Wartortle
*Mirror Coat
*Sludge
*Hydro Pump
*Blizzard

Pikachu
*Thunder
*Rain Dance
*Focus Punch
*Double Team

Riolu
*Force Palm
*Shadow Claw
*Payback
*Sword Dance

Spiritomb
*Shadow Ball
*Giga Impact
*Rest
*Protect

Metang
*Meteor Smash
*Zen Headbutt
*Light Screen
*Reflect


Is this team setup good for my Basic/2nd Form Team? Any changes?
Also what Natures are best suited for my team.

Posted on: September 06, 2010, 04:15:17 PM
I went ahead and update my team roster for Online Battles and the Battle Tower. This time around I'll post my team's Nature, Movesets, EV Spread, Abilities, and Items they will be using. I think I have good team going on here.

1st - Charizard
MODEST Nature
Item - Power Herb
Ability - Blaze
*Dragon Pulse
*Solar Beam
*Flamethrower
*Ancientpower
EV: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 SpA

2nd - Blastoise
MODEST Nature
Item - Leftovers
Ability - Torrent
*Ice Beam
*Surf
*Rapid Spin
*Yawn
EV: 64 HP / 252 SpA / 192 Spd

3rd - Raichu
TIMID Nature
Item - Life Orb
Ability - Static
*Focus Blast
*Thunderbolt
*Grass Knot
*Nasty Plot
EV: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spd

4th - Lucario
JOLLY Nature
Item - Expert Belt
Ability - Steadfast
*Close Combat / Aura Sphere
*Payback
*Extreme Speed
*Sword Dance
EV: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd

5th - Sableye
CAREFUL Nature
Item - Leftover
Ability - Keen Eye
*Will-O-Wisp
*Knock Off
*Shadow Claw
*Recover
EV: 252 HP / 120 Def / 136 SpD

or

5th - Spiritomb
CALM Nature
Item - Leftovers
Ability - Pressure
*Shadow Ball
*Toxic
*Sleep Talk
*Rest
EV: 252 HP / 140 Def / 116 SpD

6th - Rhyperior
ADAMANT Nature
Item - Leftovers
Ability - Solid Rock
*Earthquake
*Megahorn
*Stone Edge
*Stealth Rock
EV: 136 HP / 244 Atk / 128 Spd


I swapped out Metagross for Rhyperior as someone on GameFAQs mention I would have a problem Ground Types and starting thinking of using a different Pokemon instead of Metagross and for some reason Rhyperior came to mind. I have to say I was pleasantly surprised to see how great this Pokemon can be in battle and how to use him.

So I have my Rhyperior supporting my Raichu with Stealth Rock and my Blastoise supporting Charizard with Rapid Spin and plus Blastoise is a good tank to have. As well as Sableye being a great support Pokemon, but I do have Spiritomb as well to provided the extra stats and power to help my team instead.

And finally I believe I have a great Lucario ready to dish out some damage.

What do you guys think?
Title: Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on September 10, 2010, 08:20:14 AM
Excuse me, STM, but EV/IV training is not seeing Pokemon as math formulas.  You're thinking of Shoddy battlers.  EV/IV training is a simple matter of having no life.

Touche. 8D