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Which X games should be re-made if you had the chance?
« on: August 18, 2013, 02:32:23 AM »
Hi guys its me again  :). I am replaying the whole Rockman Series in chronological order ( 3rd Time. I am Rockman Holic 8) ) and as i played through the X series i was thinking which X games should be remade. I quickly thought of X5 and X8 ( I already talked about Rockman X7 in my other thread ) because there are some things i didn't really like about both.

X5:
What i didn't like:
*The story was bad and had bad writing.
*The stages felt bland and boring.
*The Bosses were not much of a challenge for me even on extreme mode ( Excluding Shadow Devil and Sigma ).
*The atmosphere felt depressive.
*Not much attention for X. ( The same with X4 and X6 ).
*Some non-canon endings. ( X's ending )
*Tidal Makkoeens boring stage.
*Alia interrupting you when bursts through a stage.
*No VAVA  o//////o ( same applies to X4,X6 and X7. )

What needs to be improved and added:
-Stage re-design.
-Story should be altered so that it would suit X6 more.
-Give X equal attention instead of only Zero having attention.
-Maybe add GOOD voice acting ( Voice acting can be your choice ).
-Animated Sequences after each boss fight to unravel the story more.
-Boss select and dialogue re-design.
-Keep Armors from X2 and X3.
-VAVA  B(.

X8:
*Some stages weren't as good as they were.
*The ugly graphics.
*The Navigators are kind of useless sometimes.
*Repetitive Game play.
*No back story about Axl or who created him.

What it needs improved or added:
-A improved version of Rockman X7 with drastic changes and improvements.
-Better Stages.
-Improved Cell shaded X7 graphics.
-Make the navigators more useful.
-Give more back story and better dialogue to Axl.

Those are the games which i think should be remade. I think it would be nice for X8 to be a better version of X7 with new features. X5 for me had a lot of problems.

But maybe its just me. Anyway which games do you guys think should be remade chance?

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Re: Which X games should be re-made if you had the chance?
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2013, 06:47:25 AM »
Xtreme 2.

And just to make easier dash controls.

That way we could finally get PB to play it :P
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Re: Which X games should be re-made if you had the chance?
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2013, 07:17:06 AM »
Xtreme 2.

And just to make easier dash controls.

That way we could finally get PB to play it :P

Hey. I like playing an X game the way it should be played. PB's way!

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Re: Which X games should be re-made if you had the chance?
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2013, 07:25:48 AM »
All of them, because why not.

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Re: Which X games should be re-made if you had the chance?
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2013, 07:32:17 AM »
If they remake X3, less doors please.

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Re: Which X games should be re-made if you had the chance?
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2013, 07:48:56 AM »
If they remake X3, less doors please.

Less doors? How about less bullshit in general?

And a better buster.

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Re: Which X games should be re-made if you had the chance?
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2013, 08:39:48 AM »
Less doors? How about less bullshit in general?

And a better buster.

Agreed with the buster, but i don't really know whats wrong in X3 in general.

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Re: Which X games should be re-made if you had the chance?
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2013, 08:42:55 AM »
Agreed with the buster, but i don't really know whats wrong in X3 in general.

Well for one, the buster is a let down from X2's Double Buster, which still ranks very highly. All the constant doors and [parasitic bomb] were annoying. Cockteasing us with playable Zero. Boss weapons were kinda okay but also kinda meh. Boss music & Doppler fight music were pretty awful all around.

That's all I can think of off the top of my head.

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Re: Which X games should be re-made if you had the chance?
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2013, 09:05:55 AM »
Yes i can agree with that. But i don't think X3 was bad, i think it was more of a meh really. But it did have some major flaws like you mentioned.

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Re: Which X games should be re-made if you had the chance?
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2013, 10:13:26 AM »
Oh no, I still love X3. I'm just saying things that are wrong with the game that could be improved.

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Re: Which X games should be re-made if you had the chance?
« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2013, 10:17:31 AM »
The amount of damage everything does is also kind of an artificial difficulty bump in X3, which always kind of bugged me.

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Re: Which X games should be re-made if you had the chance?
« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2013, 12:17:54 PM »
X3 was good and i did like it but not as much as 1 and 2. But it was better than the PSX and PS2 games

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Re: Which X games should be re-made if you had the chance?
« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2013, 06:41:30 PM »
The only games i would remake are X4 and X8.
Both i would love to see with a better engine, visuals, and have good plots that deserve better treatment.
I have no personal issues with X3.
I never really wanted to play as Zero in the first place as I love X so much more.
The buster in X3 wasnt that bad.
I mean to be fair i have yet to like a buster upgrade as much as X2's.
Hell it was so good that brought it back in ZX!
The only fix X3 needs is the up dash.
Way to slow to be useful in combat.
Honestly though i would much rather them produce a new X game then see another re make.
When it comes to re makes there are 2 possibilities, it is awesome seeing a newish version of a game ive already played to death or its totally different and might as well have taken the plunge to be a new game.

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Re: Which X games should be re-made if you had the chance?
« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2013, 07:52:01 PM »
The only games i would remake are X4 and X8.
Both i would love to see with a better engine, visuals, and have good plots that deserve better treatment.
I have no personal issues with X3.
I never really wanted to play as Zero in the first place as I love X so much more.
The buster in X3 wasnt that bad.
I mean to be fair i have yet to like a buster upgrade as much as X2's.
Hell it was so good that brought it back in ZX!
The only fix X3 needs is the up dash.
Way to slow to be useful in combat.
Honestly though i would much rather them produce a new X game then see another re make.
When it comes to re makes there are 2 possibilities, it is awesome seeing a newish version of a game ive already played to death or its totally different and might as well have taken the plunge to be a new game.

i would rather have them remake some games to fix the plot mess.


I agree with X8 but not so much with X4 since i really didn't see much problems with it except Zero getting more attention than X plot wise. I also wish they could have done X story the same way they did in Irregular Hunter X. It made X more like the main character and made him interesting .Especially with the shining finger attack and the way he froze up after that. His ending in X4 was very good character development. Especially when he starts wondering that he may turn into a Irregular. Then X7 threw away that potential that X had making him nearly a support character. That potential O^O...
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Re: Which X games should be re-made if you had the chance?
« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2013, 08:22:38 PM »
I don't see how you could say X didn't get any focus in X3:
The story is all about Doppler and Sigma aiming to gain X's allegiance. Enemies often speak of X's dangerous potential and combat ability, challenge his pacifism head on, and aimed to bypass his viral immunity.

The main issue, IMO, is thus its limited presentation as an SNES title. A new "Maverick Hunter" would undoubtedly put further focus on our blue hero. I just hope it would also start treating X and Zero as a team (setting up XS), mention Zero's virus immunity in equal measure to X's (setting up X5), and test Zero's resolve against the dream of a Reploid-only utopia (setting up X4).

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« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2013, 10:05:06 PM »
I don't see how you could say X didn't get any focus in X3:
The story is all about Doppler and Sigma aiming to gain X's allegiance. Enemies often speak of X's dangerous potential and combat ability, challenge his pacifism head on, and aimed to bypass his viral immunity.

The main issue, IMO, is thus its limited presentation as an SNES title. A new "Maverick Hunter" would undoubtedly put further focus on our blue hero. I just hope it would also start treating X and Zero as a team (setting up XS), mention Zero's virus immunity in equal measure to X's (setting up X5), and test Zero's resolve against the dream of a Reploid-only utopia (setting up X4).

I never really said that there was not enough focus on X in X3. I said that there is less focus on him in X4. Other than that you took the words out of my mouth.

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Re: Which X games should be re-made if you had the chance?
« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2013, 10:17:21 PM »
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*Not much attention for X. ( The same with X3, X4 and X6 ).

You wrote the above earlier. Both X3 and X6 seem odd choices for games that "do not give X much attention". The mention of X4 makes total sense, though. That one should really give X more opportunity to take on a political role as commander of the 17th Elite, while Signas' predecessor makes a blunder of the Repliforce negotiations.

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« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2013, 10:56:26 PM »
Ah my mistake.  :|

Sorry about that,I will fix that. I agree with taking a more political role. It would make him more mature and change the way he thinks and would develop X a lot more.

Its better than the usual: *Stop It!* *Your insane Sigma!*.
 

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Re: Which X games should be re-made if you had the chance?
« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2013, 11:35:45 PM »
Speaking of Signas, is he actually in charge?
By X7 it seems like he has little authority.
In fact it seems more like X is in charge.
In X's ending Signas is asking for X's permission to allow Axl into the Maverick Hunters.
That seems like something the person in charge would do.
Maybe that's just poor writing though.

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« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2013, 11:40:00 PM »
I think its mostly bad writing in X7.

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« Reply #20 on: August 19, 2013, 01:31:12 AM »
It's not so much that Signas is asking X for permission, but rather that he values X's opinion. X, after all, is the only one that could properly train Axl on how to be a Maverick Hunter.

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« Reply #21 on: August 19, 2013, 02:00:44 AM »
It's not so much that Signas is asking X for permission, but rather that he values X's opinion. X, after all, is the only one that could properly train Axl on how to be a Maverick Hunter.
I would accept that but if X is the only one who could train Axl then there is seriously something wrong.
What about Zero?
He seems to be pretty good at being a Hunter.
If i were Axl i would look for their HR guy.

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« Reply #22 on: August 19, 2013, 03:15:21 AM »
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I would accept that but if X is the only one who could train Axl then there is seriously something wrong.

By X7, the units have been disbanded, and the Hunters are seriously short-staffed.  That's what happens following global catastrophe.

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What about Zero?
He seems to be pretty good at being a Hunter.
If i were Axl i would look for their HR guy.

Zero and X's approach to being a Hunter also differ greatly. The gung-ho Axl has more to learn from the careful pacifistic X than the reckless mission-driven Zero. Of course, it's also somewhat of a ploy by Signas to get X back onto the front lines.


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« Reply #23 on: August 19, 2013, 03:42:12 AM »
Perhaps, i think its more just capcom just having know clue how the Maverick Hunters operate.
Also it being a ploy makes no sense as X was already back on the field..
As for Zero being reckless I just dont buy that.
Maybe a little apathetic towards his own life at best.
He might seem reckless compared to X but so would anyone really.

Being short handed might be possible.
Again they never show the Maverick Hunters outside of the main characters so its possible.

Honestly though it would make more sense for Zero to train Axl.
How they train him?
Probably that VR room from Maverick Hunter X as well as on the field.
Axl was already partnered solely with Zero for at least 4 missions before X can be unlocked and used.
It would not make a lot of sense to switch a rookie's trainer that quickly.

And as it turns out Axl's 'gung ho' atitude saved everyone's butt near the end of X8.
Which further shows that X's compassion can lead to hesitation leading to bad consequences.

Im ending my rant here.

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« Reply #24 on: August 19, 2013, 04:12:31 AM »
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Being short handed might be possible.
Again they never show the Maverick Hunters outside of the main characters so its possible.

It's been clearly established that the Earth Crisis dealt a major blow to the Hunter ranks and forced a restructuring of their whole operation. X and Zero are both "former commanders" after X5 and remain such throughout even Command Mission.

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Honestly though it would make more sense for Zero to train Axl.
How they train him?
Probably that VR room from Maverick Hunter X as well as on the field.
Axl was already partnered solely with Zero for at least 4 missions before X can be unlocked and used.
It would not make a lot of sense to switch a rookie's trainer that quickly.

It's not that Zero cannot train him, or isn't already training Axl. It's just that X is very much another important asset in turning Axl into a potential S-rank Hunter. His reluctance emphasizes he's still struggling between the front-lines and the route of pacifism.