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Re: Why doesn't Capcom just [parasitic bomb] some Battle Network games?
« Reply #50 on: November 13, 2012, 06:39:37 AM »
He's the mascot? Then why did it take until SEED for me to even see him?

Haro is in 0079, Z, ZZ, CCA, [Unicorn] and V.

So unless you skipped pretty much everything...

It's more of a UC thing, they only really started adding Haros into the AU shows with SEED.

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Re: Why doesn't Capcom just [parasitic bomb] some Battle Network games?
« Reply #51 on: November 13, 2012, 10:50:29 AM »
He's the mascot? Then why did it take until SEED for me to even see him?
I guess all I can really say is it isn't exactly what I'd expect out of a $4.4M game

It doesn't even have mouth animations

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Re: Why doesn't Capcom just [parasitic bomb] some Battle Network games?
« Reply #52 on: November 13, 2012, 01:56:40 PM »
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Re: Why doesn't Capcom just [parasitic bomb] some Battle Network games?
« Reply #53 on: November 13, 2012, 04:09:49 PM »
G is good, 8th MS Team is [parasitic bomb].

Maybe on opposite day.




Refernce: Yoshiyuki Tomino is the creator of the Gundam franchise, and responsible for the majority of the UC timeline series.

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Z is great, and definitely my favorite. You'd get the most out of it with a good frame of reference for the first series plot though.

Char's Counter Attack is definitely the best of the movies, if not the entire series. Powerful, and a great cap on the Amuro vs Char saga. I just wish it was fleshed out a tiny bit more, though it works as a movie fairly well. It works best if you've seen the first series, and Z at least. ZZ isn't required but it does directly lead up to it.

08th MS Team was an incredible character narrative, with most of the super suit themes removed. It chronicles the average soldier for the most part, and definitely ranks up at the top.

Turn-A was great, even though it was a fairly big change in scenery and somewhat surreal. It wasn't action packed to the same degree as most other entries in the franchise, instead focusing on a powerful character narrative. It worked out really well, and was quite an interesting change of pace. To my knowledge Turn-A still hasn't received a release outside of Japan.

Unicorn is pretty great. Admittedly I'm a bit behind on it yet, but so far it appears to be shaping up to be a top quality UC Gundam.

War in The Pocket (0080) was also a great character narrative, approaching war from a little boy's stand point. Like 08th MS, it stayed out of super robot territory for the most part. It was very short, lasting only 4 episodes as an OVA if I recall correctly.

Stardust Memories was pretty neat, though short. Some of the tech displayed was questionable for it's place in the timeline though. Lots of nice Z series tie ins.

The first series (0079) is slow to start but ramps up about half way in. You should be able to sufficiently get by with the movie adaptations. It is definitely a product of it's time, and not everyone can fully appreciate it in it's original format. When it ramps up, though, it gets pretty good.

ZZ is a mixed bag. After Z's complete tragedy story, its said that Tomino wanted to lighten things up a little for a while. ZZ started off as a borderline comedy show. It wasn't overly well received, and never made it to american shores in any official capacity (last I knew). Z's movie adaptation even rewrote the ending so much as to infer that ZZ doesn't happen. At the half way point there is an OH [parasitic bomb] moment that changes everything, and re-anchors it back into a more serious tone. I was actually pleasantly surprised with the second half of the series. I will admit that the first part is a little more than tough to swallow after Z's finale though.

V is hard for me to place. I didn't finish it yet, which tells you something right off the bat. Additionally Tomino requested that people refuse to buy the DVD's of the series, claiming he hated making it and it sucks. I don't believe it ever had a state side release in any official form.

F91 is only this far down because of it's execution. It was a single movie of what was a story meant to be told as a full 50 episode series. As you can imagine, it is hard to follow, rushed, and generally underwhelming as a result. I wish it received it's own series instead.

I haven't watched any of the Igloo ones. No idea where to place it.

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Wing was really good, if you're willing to accept it has differences from the main series. One of the more intricate plots of the series if you really pay attention. I really liked a lot of the characters.

I was pleasantly surprised with Gundam AGE for the most part. It had some weird moments scattered throughout but the story held up fairly well. It was interesting to see it as a sort of remix of the themes from 0079, Z, and ZZ with each respective era of the timeline. It brought back some good nostalgic feelings here and there. Overall a big improvement over SEED and 00 in my opinion.

I'm not really sure yet where to place Gundam X. I've just started it really. It has some interesting elements, but I've yet to see how it shapes up. It never made any official jump across the ocean, to my knowledge, which can be seed as a bad thing. However, Turn-A didn't either I suppose.

G was OK for some people. Your mileage may very. If you liked Gurren Lagann, this one may appeal to you, but don't expect it to be of the same level.

Gundam 00 started off as a re-imagining of Wing to a degree. I think it had a strong start, but in season 2 it fell apart completely. Probably one of the most disappointing of the series, given it's potential. Oh, and avoid the movie at ALL costs. CANT UNSEE.

SEED and SEED Destiny were shitty. I will say the SEED Destiny Shin vs Kira battle was pretty awesome though. One of the better animated fights of the series. I hear rumor that Kira was originally suppose to die off in that battle, which would have made for a much greater story. Sadly Kira bullshit survives and god modes everything for the rest of the series harder than ever before.



I'm probably missing something here or there, but that's the series in a nutshell for the most part. There are some manga and novels scattered through the series, but I've mostly stuck to the anime. Here's hoping for a Crossbones Gundam anime adaptation though.

Additionally, there are plans to redo the first series. Rumor has it, that is follows the manga closer than the first anime series. The manga was produced after the fact, I believe based on the novel, which was written based on the anime series.

As a bit of trivia, this is what SEED was suppose to be before they went with the whole re-imagining route, and ruined it all. Its shocking to think how much better a re-animation of the first series would have been in comparison to that dribble.

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Re: Why doesn't Capcom just [parasitic bomb] some Battle Network games?
« Reply #54 on: November 13, 2012, 08:30:48 PM »

See Gundam 00 can't even get that right

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Re: Why doesn't Capcom just [parasitic bomb] some Battle Network games?
« Reply #55 on: November 13, 2012, 09:41:57 PM »
Actually, that's a screen shot from SEED I believe. They had mass produced Harros.

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Re: Why doesn't Capcom just [parasitic bomb] some Battle Network games?
« Reply #56 on: November 14, 2012, 12:03:12 AM »
Gundam is a pretty cool guy. But just like Battle Network there's just too much for me to care. XD I really loved the BN games but starting with 4 it quickly went downhill for me, just stopped being interested after a while. I really liked Starforce and it's sequels even more so than the BN games but it's easy to see why they're overlooked. If they did something to make the games felt new I would totally want another one. =]

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Re: Why doesn't Capcom just [parasitic bomb] some Battle Network games?
« Reply #57 on: November 14, 2012, 12:52:21 AM »
They should make a Gundam Series where Haro is the main villain.  No one would ever expect it.  He can even put on the Char helmet and people won't know it's him, because it's such a good disguise.  His motivation?  Obviously to destroy all life and repopulate the world with Haros.

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Re: Why doesn't Capcom just [parasitic bomb] some Battle Network games?
« Reply #58 on: November 14, 2012, 01:02:59 AM »
Total Global Haronation?

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Re: Why doesn't Capcom just [parasitic bomb] some Battle Network games?
« Reply #59 on: November 14, 2012, 01:12:35 AM »
They should make a Gundam Series where Haro is the main villain.  No one would ever expect it.  He can even put on the Char helmet and people won't know it's him, because it's such a good disguise.  His motivation?  Obviously to destroy all life and repopulate the world with Haros.

I lobby hard for this!!

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Re: Why doesn't Capcom just [parasitic bomb] some Battle Network games?
« Reply #60 on: November 14, 2012, 01:24:48 AM »
I lobby hard for this!!

Also, a chick with Haro Boobs!
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Re: Why doesn't Capcom just [parasitic bomb] some Battle Network games?
« Reply #61 on: November 14, 2012, 01:43:27 AM »
Also, a chick with Haro Boobs!

Already did it months ago.

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Re: Why doesn't Capcom just [parasitic bomb] some Battle Network games?
« Reply #62 on: November 14, 2012, 01:45:40 AM »
Already did it months ago.

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Re: Why doesn't Capcom just [parasitic bomb] some Battle Network games?
« Reply #63 on: November 15, 2012, 01:25:56 AM »
If there's going to be a Gundam with Haro as a central character, then the main mech itself would be a souped-up GM ball, to match.
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Re: Why doesn't Capcom just [parasitic bomb] some Battle Network games?
« Reply #64 on: November 15, 2012, 05:08:34 AM »
Already did it months ago.
You need to draw badguy Haro

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Re: Why doesn't Capcom just [parasitic bomb] some Battle Network games?
« Reply #65 on: November 15, 2012, 05:10:30 AM »
And now for some reason I'm imagining Haro with a Hitler 'stache.

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« Reply #66 on: November 15, 2012, 05:19:25 AM »
And now for some reason I'm imagining Haro with a Hitler 'stache.

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Re: Why doesn't Capcom just [parasitic bomb] some Battle Network games?
« Reply #67 on: November 15, 2012, 05:21:43 AM »
I've taught you well!  8D
Was that part of your teachings, because it seems kinda obvious.  And on that note, COMRADE CHEFMUNIST?

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Re: Why doesn't Capcom just [parasitic bomb] some Battle Network games?
« Reply #68 on: November 15, 2012, 05:26:53 AM »
Was that part of your teachings, because it seems kinda obvious.  And on that note, COMRADE CHEFMUNIST?

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Re: Why doesn't Capcom just [parasitic bomb] some Battle Network games?
« Reply #69 on: November 15, 2012, 07:13:55 AM »
I keep wanting to get into the whole Gundam scene, but I can never really get motivated to do so. Also, I keep hearing that SEED isn't really that bad, just kind of, meh. Which anime should I start with? I know that I will definitely watch G Gundam at some point. Should I start there?

On Topic: I read back earlier that Starforce 2 and 3 didn't sell well enough to warrant a sequel. That's pretty much the most solid point here. I think that the MM series' fanbase started dwindling after the GBA era, honestly. Capcom needs something big to draw in more fans before they can even think about continuing their unfinished series. While it hurts to say so, they should leave the Classic, X, Starforce, and ZX series be until they can draw back a larger fanbase. They ALMOST had something with Legends 3. ALMOST. But then they screwed that over. Capcom really dug themselves into a rut concerning the Blue Bomber.

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Re: Why doesn't Capcom just [parasitic bomb] some Battle Network games?
« Reply #70 on: November 15, 2012, 07:36:08 AM »
I'd start with the original series. I could just be saying that cause I love this song...


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Re: Why doesn't Capcom just [parasitic bomb] some Battle Network games?
« Reply #71 on: November 15, 2012, 07:50:35 PM »
I'd start with the original series. I could just be saying that cause I love this song...



That is a pretty good track...

Also, I've been watching Neon Genesis Evangelion. Well some of it anyways. I'm two or three episodes in and it's starting kind of slow. Does it get any better?

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Re: Why doesn't Capcom just [parasitic bomb] some Battle Network games?
« Reply #72 on: November 16, 2012, 12:36:23 PM »
this is so ridiculously off from the original topic that the original topic itself was off-topic.
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Re: Why doesn't Capcom just [parasitic bomb] some Battle Network games?
« Reply #73 on: November 16, 2012, 03:32:49 PM »
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Re: Why doesn't Capcom just [parasitic bomb] some Battle Network games?
« Reply #74 on: November 16, 2012, 05:29:28 PM »
^Reminds me of that joke about "Megaman in Space!" which i forgot what it was about.