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I need few informations regarding Neo Arcadia
« on: December 07, 2009, 01:48:16 PM »
So, I remember there was once a topic with detailed plot and timeline information, but it seems to be gone now.
Well, anyway.

So, I had an idea for writing a certain fanfic(yeah, I know) that I wanted to write since... well, few years back.

Its title would be Neo Arcadia and.... it would be about Neo Arcadia. It would present the events before Zero 1, and if I would even get that far, an alternate take on the events from the games where... Zero was never awakened. Overall this is supposed to be kind of AU, since I'm planning to put a big emphasis on Copy-X and how he became tyrannical ruler with a foolish delusion that he's better than original X.

SO ANYWAY.

Few questions:

-Who exactly created Neo Arcadia? Was it the original or the copy?
-Did Elf Wars happened when Neo Arcadia was already there, or beforie its creation?
-WHAT ARE THOSE FREAKIN CYCLOP-X-LOOK-ALIKE ROBOTS CALLED?!
-How old was Ciel when she created Copy X?
-What was Kraft doing, before Vile appeared?

Okay, this will be it... I think.

Anyone willing to answer those for me? Theories are appreciated too, if there's no official informations on some of those questions.

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Re: I need few informations regarding Neo Arcadia
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2009, 02:52:08 PM »
Extracted from Wikipedia (yeah, i know):

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the founding of Neo Arcadia is placed after the end of the "Maverick Wars" (the events of X series) and the "Elf Wars", two world wide battles in the fictional Mega Man Universe. However, somewhat contradictory statements that the infamous criminal responsible for the Elf Wars, Dr. Weil, was a "Neo Arcadian scientist" has led some to believe that a government body of the same name may have already existed in some form, or that the official history archives may have been rewritten to make it appear that Neo Arcadia had already existed at the end of the wars.

I actually remember discussing the whole Neo Arcadia government thing here a while ago, so it mostly matches my blurred memories.
My guess is that since there was a peaceful period before the Elf Wars, Neo Arcadia as a metropolis was created at that time. Weil was reported to have been 'banished' from Neo Arcadia after the war, which makes it sound like it already existed before his rebellion. Also, it would not make much sense that the Weil Numbers had become the Eight Judges after the war.

I don't think it's stated who founded Neo Arcadia, but it's probably okay to assume the original X is the one getting the merit, with the whole Elysium thing and all the whining he did in the X series.

The cyclops troops are called Pantheon (Hunter, Guardian, Hopper... depending on the variation)

I don't remember how old Ciel was when Copy X was created. Something between 6 and 8.

Kraft was a soldier of Neo Arcadia before Weil rose to power. I don't think it's mentioned which rank he was or what army he was part of. All we know is that common folk liked him better than the Guardians because he wasn't as distant as them, plus the whole saving journalists thing.

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Re: I need few informations regarding Neo Arcadia
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2009, 03:00:10 PM »
Ohkay, that's some useful information.
Thanks.

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Re: I need few informations regarding Neo Arcadia
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2009, 09:56:41 PM »
Please, do read over the two documents I've attached in this post.

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-Who exactly created Neo Arcadia? Was it the original or the copy?

THE TIMELINE OF EVENTS SURROUNDING ZERO...

The Maverick Wars begin abruptly
Zero goes into stasis
A curse twists Mother Elf into Dark Elf
Weil instigates the Elf Wars
Zero awakens in a new body and, together with X, ends the Elf Wars
Within the Forgotten Laboratory, Zero goes into stasis once more
X founds Neo Arcadia
X dissappears from Neo Arcadia
Ciel creates Copy-X
Neo Arcadia is threatened by a serious energy shortage
The oppression of Reploids begins
Ciel organizes the resistance
Ciel awakens Zero

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-How old was Ciel when she created Copy X?

HONDA: We made it so that Ciel herself was a product of the technological advancements of Neo Arcadia. With the dream of creating a utopia for humans and the Reploids sworn to protect those humans, researchers were working on producing humans with altered DNA. In the process, some children were born for the specific purpose of developing better Reploids to assist in this research. Ciel was just one of these children, and was a prodigy. Just by watching and mimicking the experiments, she somehow managed to produce Copy X. This let us explain how Ciel could have been Copy X's creator.
AIZU: She was nine years old at the time.
HONDA: That sounds about right.

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-WHAT ARE THOSE FREAKIN CYCLOP-X-LOOK-ALIKE ROBOTS CALLED?!

ZERO3 has this convenient in game chip database with the names of all enemies.

And they (the Pantheons) are Repliroids. Mass-produced mentally degraded Repliroid copies of X.

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-What was Kraft doing, before Vile appeared?

The most accepted name is "Craft". Saying "Kraft" is akin to saying "Bile". The Complete Works adheres to Vile and Craft. Craft's activities before Dr. Vile's Ragnarok Strategy are explained in great depth in -Vile's Incident-.

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Also, it would not make much sense that the Weil Numbers had become the Eight Judges after the war.

They weren't Vile Numbers until after Vile's return in ZERO3 and him altering both their bodies and minds. Before that, there history is largely unknown, we do not know if the Mythos Repliroids that became the Eight Judges were alive during the Elf Wars, we only know that some of them (Blazin' Flizard) had other occupations.

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I actually remember discussing the whole Neo Arcadia government thing here a while ago, so it mostly matches my blurred memories.
My guess is that since there was a peaceful period before the Elf Wars, Neo Arcadia as a metropolis was created at that time. Weil was reported to have been 'banished' from Neo Arcadia after the war, which makes it sound like it already existed before his rebellion.

The exact details on Neo Arcadia's time founding is something that warrants severely lengthy walls of text. Related to that are the equally complicated of the Yggdrasil seal and the creation of Neo Arcadia's Four Guardians.

The 'city of Neo Arcadia' was created by X 'at the center of rebirth' to 'walk on the path to recovery'. X was said to have founded Neo Arcadia after he ended the Irregular Wars and after the Elf Wars.

The existence of 'Neo Arcadia' prior to that city's founding is a complicated matter not solely about Vile being a Neo Arcadian scientist. The remnants of Vile's laboratory has the logo of Neo Arcadia, a similar logo is present on Vile's rejuvenating armor. Furthermore, Vile's Incident referred to the government of that time as 'that Neo Arcadia'. The existence Four Great Forests 'that surround Neo Arcadia' and hold ruins of the civilizations of before Neo Arcadia in which Repliroid research was carried out but in truth hide the dirty secrets of the Elf Wars is also something that raises many questions.

It is my own personal opinion that the project to create the utopia Neo Arcadia began after the completion of Project Elpis; when X ended the war and the world started recovering. That project would have been interrupted by the Elf Wars. It is the 'Neo Arcadian' government of that time that facilitated the creation of Dr. Vile's Omega for the sake of ending the war, but was betrayed by Vile. To protect their own reputation the truth behind that man's sin was hidden away and the established Neo Arcadia came to have a centennial history of bloodshed and lies; built upon those that lost their lives in the worst war in history.

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Re: I need few informations regarding Neo Arcadia
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2009, 10:21:50 PM »
The most accepted name is "Craft". Saying "Kraft" is akin to saying "Bile".
"Weil", surely?

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Re: I need few informations regarding Neo Arcadia
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2009, 11:17:09 PM »
Thanks Zan. You are a savior.

Now, time to write down all the plot ideas for the ff.

I will leave this thread open, in case I have some more questions.

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Re: I need few informations regarding Neo Arcadia
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2009, 01:56:38 AM »
Hay Zan, surrounding the deal with the ruins you mentioned. Is it possible that there was a "city of Arcadia" before NEO Arcadia? I mean, Neo means new, and it makes no sense to call a city tat unless there was some original Arcadia before or something.
...When Larry the reploid accountant goes maverick of his own accord, he's certainly formidable during tax season, but he isn't going to provide X the challenge needed to make him grow as a warrior and reach his potential.

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Re: I need few informations regarding Neo Arcadia
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2009, 02:29:17 AM »
Hay Zan, surrounding the deal with the ruins you mentioned. Is it possible that there was a "city of Arcadia" before NEO Arcadia? I mean, Neo means new, and it makes no sense to call a city tat unless there was some original Arcadia before or something.
Arcadia means "Paradise" or "Utopia". And because this is THE FUTURE, it's called Neo Arcadia... New Paradise... if you want.

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Re: I need few informations regarding Neo Arcadia
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2009, 01:20:42 PM »
Oh. Well, Ok. Didnt quite know that.
...When Larry the reploid accountant goes maverick of his own accord, he's certainly formidable during tax season, but he isn't going to provide X the challenge needed to make him grow as a warrior and reach his potential.