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Zero / Re: Zero after Ragnarok

« on: November 15, 2008, 09:29:59 PM »

Yeah except he showed up in the very next scene in Zero 1. You'd think he'd actually contact Ciel if he was still alive, y'know? She seems like she'd appreciate it. But, well, maybe he was busy doing nothing for the next 200 years, like you seem to think. Or maybe he'll do something in Zero 5, if the fans want it. How exactly do you think the fans are going to express their want, by the way?

I'm not Capcom...I wouldn't know how they would. At the beginning of RMZ2 he fought alone until he found Ceil again. And I never said he was alive for the next 200 years...just that he survived Ragnarok. Also no record of After RMZ4 is provided (not including the ones when Ceil makes a data disk explaining what she did with the Live Metals, which never even MENTIONED Zero.).

You know it makes me kinda sick that our beloved Zero should be death. Why don´t he just arise and kicks asses like nothing happened. I want to see that Thomas completely destroyed by Zero´s very own hands. "The world needs to be reset!", I cannot stand out this douchebag. Seriously...

Well we can't all have what we want...however the way Thomas is asking for it he'll get taken down eventually.

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Zero / Re: Zero after Ragnarok

« on: November 15, 2008, 09:22:03 PM »

Except Inafune stated himself that Zero did not kill the Classic gang.

About the Live Metals, I'm pretty sure it was discussed here before the crash that the 'data' inside the models are heroes' souls, if not Cyber-Elves in a jar. Zan probably knows.

No. They're not making Zero 5.

Ciel created the LiveMetals many years after the Ragnarok incident. Zero was dead, the Big Four were dead, Phantom was dead for crying out loud and X is pretty much a ghost in Cyberspace as well (read: dead). They were all deceased heroes.

I'll be open minded on this...I ask: If they were all in cyberspace, how did Ceil obtain them for making the Models?

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Zero / Re: Zero after Ragnarok

« on: November 15, 2008, 09:13:59 PM »

Cyberspace was accessible because a rift was caused by the appearance of Omega. X in RMZ3 went to cyberspace because he was running outta power and "could not stay in this world any longer." The only soul (cyber elf) Ceil could possibly get her hands on was Zero's when and if his body was destroyed...

I won't discuss the rest cuz I don't want to [acid burst] you off....(check Acid's reply) -.-

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Zero / Re: Zero after Ragnarok

« on: November 15, 2008, 09:00:58 PM »

Him vanishing in an explosion...that happened in Rockman Zero 1 after he destroyed Copy X 2nd form!!!!! ^^

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Zero / Re: Zero after Ragnarok

« on: November 15, 2008, 08:57:35 PM »

People also believed Zero killed Rock and Co, because apparently the was no proof that suggested otheerwise.

Zero died during Ragnarok.

Dude....where are you taking us? There isn't any proof that Zero did not kill Rock & Co...however there isn't any proof that he DID!!! Stay on the subject please and again you assert your stand point without solid evidence.

So do you want like a little message after you complete the game saying "Yes, Zero really died, don't talk to us about it", or what? Would like the planet exploding be good enough, or do you still think he could live through that too? Maybe the galaxy?

Your sarcasm amuses me...

However... I doubt that we get the answer from the games itself. Even Rockman Zero 4 hasn´t explained why the three Guardians were missing in this game. It´s more likely, that we will need to ask Inafune again. The only thing what we see from Zero in the last picture is his helmet, but would he have been disintigrated by entering the atmosphere, there won´t be nothing left.
In my opinium, is Zero still alive, but it would contradict with the ZX Series, since the latest news of our Red Slasher, is his fight on Ragnarok against Weil, according to Prairie.

According to Prairie...her latest news on him was his fight against Ragnarok...that she knows of...

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Zero / Re: Zero after Ragnarok

« on: November 15, 2008, 08:51:45 PM »

Zero had to die to become a biometal. Inti decided "Let's end him with a blast!"

And it happened.

I am telling you. That is very possible. But I'm looking for answers backed up by solid proof. Ceil (I said this in my last game-quoting reply) made Models X, Z, H, L, F, and P using DATA on the ancient heroes. She used the data she already had on Zero. Whether Zero died or survived it did not affect this fact.

A reploids data and his soul are pretty much two terms for the same thing, as I understood Cyberspace..

I meant data as in information on Zero. You mean it as a soul.
If such a thing were true don't you think that Ceil would have said it differently (like maybe Zero or Zero's cyber elf)? If the soul of Zero WAS used then I wonder where Ceil got X's soul (cyber elf) along with the guardians.

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Zero / Re: Zero after Ragnarok

« on: November 15, 2008, 08:41:04 PM »

Zero is on a space station.
Space station explodes.
Zero isn't seen anymore.


HOW IS THIS MYSTERIOUS. HOW.


I coulda sworn the text in Rockman ZX was in Japanese...

That's just it....Zero isn't seen anymore. No one (in the series or records) said he was destroyed.

I took that quote from the English version.

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Zero / Re: Zero after Ragnarok

« on: November 15, 2008, 08:31:24 PM »

Neither one of us is right.

The legendary Reploid who fought valiantly and was known as a hero during the Maverick Wars. Though the soul is indeed that of Zero, the body that Ceil found him in was a copy of the original. Zero's original body, which had caused much damage during the Elf Wars, had been sent into space, and is now known as Omega. But Zero's new body, showing at least as much if not more potential than the last, has saved the world twice over from the evil intentions of Omega and Weil, the man controlling him. Zero was last seen in space. His current whereabouts unknown. Quote from Rockman Zero Complete Works page 24.

I am betting that not even Capcom knows what happened to Zero afterward (they're too lazy to come up with something). The last two sentences from the quote above basically has Capcom saying that no one knows for a fact what happened to Zero. Also this may be used to spark new theories by fans. The truth is that Capcom still is waiting to see if they are going to make a RMZ5 (if there are enough fan demands on it) or just keep it a mystery to further Zero's legacy.

Also according to this...


????: Biometal Report Classification #555913 * Chosen One * This message is
intended for the chosen one who will someday find the Biometal I have created.
In order to fight against Model W, which has been causing the Maverick
outbreaks, I have constructed Model X and Model Z with the data I have obtained
on ancient heroes. There is still so much I don't understand... And I was forced
to use the research on Model W as a basis for constructing the other two models.
In other words, the ones with the potential to use Model X and Z, are the same
one with the potential to unleash Model W. As a chosen one, you have the power
to save or destroy the world. I can only hope you use the power for good and
that you will decide to guide the people to a bright future. Quote from Rockman ZX

...what you say about Model Z containing Zero's soul (lack of a better word) is wrong.

Personal opinion: I never said Zero survived by being saved by someone (ex. Mother Elf, X, etc). He would have survived all by himself (beside the point so excuse that last statement).

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X / Re: In the end, Zero's purpose came to pass.

« on: November 15, 2008, 03:21:59 PM »

Oh? You're saying they lie? 

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DASH / Rockman Dash 3

« on: November 15, 2008, 08:01:18 AM »

How many of you think that there is the SLIGHT possibility of a Rockman Dash 3?
Many people say that RMD happens like a bazillion years (exaggeration) after RMZX and that it might provoke a third game of the Dash series.

Any thoughts? 

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Zero / Re: Zero after Ragnarok

« on: November 15, 2008, 07:56:29 AM »

Honestly do people actually buy this just because they see this crap advertisement in a random forum. Pathetic way to get customers if you ask me... <.<

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Zero / Re: Zero after Ragnarok

« on: November 15, 2008, 07:52:26 AM »

Aye, thanks for the discussion. ^_^

Posted on: November 15, 2008, 07:35:06Wow...........

Posted on: November 15, 2008, 07:51:16

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Zero / Re: Zero after Ragnarok

« on: November 15, 2008, 07:01:08 AM »

Even if they he did somehow come back for Zero 5, he'd have to die at the end of that to set things up for ZX. Better to not expend the effort.

Why is that? In Rockman ZX there isn't any mention of his 'death' (that I know of at least). Please, enlighten me = )

Also I don't believe there will be a RMZ5 unless the fans demand it, and so far not many requests...[they all accept his death]
Let's say there shall not be a RMZ5, Zero is still alive and it wouldn't make a difference.

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Gaming / Re: Characters you HATE.

« on: November 15, 2008, 06:52:10 AM »

Wow...so much hate. ^^"

Dynamo (Rockman X5: for pussying out after you beat him)
Cloud (FF7: not so much but he's just too powerful [ex. fast as bullet + cutting up buildings])
Sigma (RMX4: Zero had to kill Iris because of his crap :' l   )
Weegee (YouTubePoop: not hate but...aside from the jokes on him...he scares the crap outta me O.O)

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ZX / Re: What Do You Want to See in a ZX3?

« on: November 15, 2008, 06:15:18 AM »

I just want Model X to be playable throughout the whole game without having to unlock it >_>'

True Model X was fun as hell to play with but it seems too powerful. o.o
(Charge shot + BIG Charge shot = a whole crap-load of damage!!!)

*Ha! That's a good one!*

And you know, instead of a Ride Chaser why not Aile's Blue Bike. I can imagine the intro scene...

Model X Aile riding a Bike then explodes... *GBD Reference*
I prefer it right after ZXA because I want a Grand Duel with Rockman Model X, & with Rockman Model A also.

I don't think Model A will be in the next game unless they have a flash back. If you remember the ending Grey/Ashe and Model A leave to travel the world basically leaving Vent/Aile to clean up any other Irregular messes.

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ZX / Re: ZX References

« on: November 15, 2008, 06:01:51 AM »

Either that or an electric slash by Ox from afar.

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Rockman Series / Re: Cheapest Boss Attack(s) in the series?

« on: November 15, 2008, 05:58:24 AM »

Vile in X1. just cant beat him!
lol,
but seriously, Sigma X4's boomerang attack.
andI just hate bubleman exe. hes so freakin annoying. hes the sole reason when my exe 3 lost all its data from the battery running out while I was saving, i lost it. He was the first thing that crossed my mind when my save was gone. and then I just lost it. went nuts.

Vile in X1...not so much but what happened to you with your EXE 3...believe me it happened to me too and I threw a tantrum in the middle of Walmart. - -

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ZX / Re: ZX References

« on: November 15, 2008, 03:09:45 AM »

Under the bus in Area C1 there is an enemy and boss from RMZ1/2 in a little lab with an E tank in the background.

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ZX / Re: ZX References

« on: November 15, 2008, 03:00:57 AM »

Wow I never thought of Giro that way.

Actually X has brown hair AND green eyes (like Vent/Aile).

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ZX / Re: ZX References

« on: November 15, 2008, 02:54:20 AM »

The area where you fight Model H resembles the first stage(s) in ZX.

That's Area A alright.
Notice that Floating Ruins, Scrapyard, Control Center, and Highway are all from ZX (the border separating them from the other stages oin the map).

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X / Re: In the end, Zero's purpose came to pass.

« on: November 15, 2008, 02:48:41 AM »

doesnt mean anything. Wily likes to boast and brag about his creations, and doesnt give 3 shits about their feelings. Bass doesnt give 3 shits either, as hes too busy boasting that hes more powerfull than anything Wily can dish out. Light is very humble, and modest. it would make sense that he kept X a secret from Rock and the others, especially Rock, not to make him feel that he was being replaced. Protoman also, would dislike the idea, and as he goes on his own accord, its unpredictable what he would do if he found out.

Makes sense a lot of sense. Wonder if that's how Capcom wanted it to happen.

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ZX / ZX References

« on: November 15, 2008, 02:46:41 AM »

In some parts of RMZX and RMZXA there are elements that make reference to other stages in the X series.

-Area D2 (Rockman X1, Highway intro stage)

-Model A (Axl) fights Albert (Lumine), battle damaged, and X carries Axl down elevator/Vent-Alie save Grey-Ashe when they only have Model X (Rockman X8 reference).

-Serpent/Sigma were good before they were corrupted in some way.

That's all I got. Anyone notice more of these things?

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X / Re: In the end, Zero's purpose came to pass.

« on: November 15, 2008, 02:29:41 AM »

Sigma was a reploid, meaning he was created using X's blueprints, basically implying that X was discovered first.

Actually in Rockman The Power Fighters if you play as Bass is shows that Wily already has Zero in production while Dr. Light and X are never together in the same sentence let alone a scene.

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X / Re: In the end, Zero's purpose came to pass.

« on: November 15, 2008, 02:21:43 AM »

big flaw right there.  there would BE no Sigma to discover him if X hadnt been dug up first.

What happened was that Zero was created first.

Also X had nothing to do with Zero's discovery (Zero was being all maverick to begin with).

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Forum Games / Re: Reveal Your Secrets. Revival~

« on: November 15, 2008, 02:14:42 AM »

I actually thought as a child that before my time, the whole world was black and white because of the old photos I used to see.

Uhh...same here except I could make up my mind between real life vision and cartoon (I was placed in front of the television too much back then - . -").