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Rockman Series / Re: What would your Megaman series look like? -- A Discussion Thread

« on: February 10, 2012, 07:26:44 AM »

@Jericho: This is a pretty interesting idea. It's amazing. Wow.

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News and Announcements / Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)

« on: January 28, 2012, 04:50:53 PM »

Except that's ALL we have been getting, and probably all we WILL get for a while. Cheap low quality cash ins that don't cost them a whole lot and therefore are not a major risk.

All fans WANT is an actual new game. Hell, new games are what started this mess. We thought we were getting Mega Man Universe and Mega Man Legends 3. Universe was met with mixed reaction, for various reasons, but legends 3 was what we all wanted. Universe was just the side dish.

To top it off, Legends 3 was an amazing  PR opportunity. Something pretty original. A game for the fans, by the fans, in conjunction with Capcom. The fans would decide almost everything. Since Capcom was skeptical, it would start as just a prototype. And that prototype would be it's own self contained adventure. The Prototype would be the prologue, the prequel to Legends 3, and would determine Legends 3's actual greenlight. There were contests, polls, an all sorts of interactions between the fans and the Dev team, on a scale Ive never really seen before. The game is practically finished, and then It gets cancelled. Capcom cites no specific reasons, only that certain "criteria" was not met.

Legends 3 is not greenlit, and the Prototype, which was delayed, will NOT see the light of day, despite being basically finished. The Japanese Devroom is shut down almost immediately, and Capcom just chucks everything in the garbage. Fans are pretty upset over that, and then, to add to the situation, Capcom Europe insults the fanbase, saying that the game's cancellation is their fault, because they didn't care enough. Everything at this point leads to the conclusion that Capcom used Devroom numbers to predict how many units would be sold, and found it unsatisfactory for their investment. Despite Capcom themselves saying Fans need not join the devroom to follow the game.

And from then on, it just gets worse. Capcom remains incredibly tight lipped over the cancellation, and whenever a devteam member says something, specifically when they announce they support the fan efforts, their blog or twitter is shut down right after.

MvC3 rolls around. Mega Man fans assume that Mega Man will be in it, since he was in the previous 2. Popularity polls are created, and Mega Man tops the charts. Fans try to push for either Mega Man or Mega Man X to be a character. They get told that he will not be included because they cannot make him work in the game, and give other excuses as well. Instead they place Zero in the game, porting most of his moveset from TvC with Tron, and instead of Mega Man, put Arthur in the game. Fans get no specific reason for Mega Man's absence from Capcom. Fans try to get Mega man perhaps as DLC instead. They get told there are no plans to release Mega Man DLC. Instead, fans get the "Days of Future Past" stage, that shows several Marvel and Capcom Characters as either Slain or Captured, and show Mega Man as "Missing".

(EDIT: And I forgot to mention the shitstorm that ensued when Capcom announced UMvC3 almost right after the first, making MvC fans annoyed that they just wasted 50 bucks on an incomplete obsolete version.)

Fans try to push for X, to accompany Zero. They instead get an alternate Skin for Zero.

And for all this, there are no concrete reasons ever given. They are determined on preventing Mega Man's appearance in MvC3.

Time passes, and Street Fighter vs Tekken is announced. people hope Mega man might be a cameo, and eventually ARE teased with a blue silhouette that does not really resemble Mega Man.

The Phone game comes out. It's a cheap Mega Man X port with the graphics slightly modified in photoshop.

Capcom announces they do not know what to do with Mega Man and we get repeated PR talk of "Top Men", (with the emphasis on the "Top Men" Part) deciding Mega Man's future, and deciding a "10 year plan".

Then we get this. A variant on bad Box Art Mega Man, simply named "Mega Man". Not "Bad Box Art Mega Man" but Mega Man. This is supposed to be the Mega Man fans have wanted in MvC3. Any other time and it would have been funny. But then we look at his bio, and see that they have used Mega Man Vollnut's background for him.

Capcom has not only destroyed and completely reversed a perfect PR opportunity, but have created an even WORSE PR nightmare. With almost the majority of the fanbase angry over the way they have been treated. Capcom at no point offered any explanations, and then continued to Ignore Mega Man and make moves that are totally inappropriate for the current situation with their fans.

No, they dont OWE us anything. But they at least owe us explanations, not cardboard cutout "we still care!" PR from Sven. We need SOMETHING. Capcom may not owe us a game, but after baiting us and then pulling the proverbial football right as we are about to kick, they DO owe their fans something. Especially since their fans are what makes them money. Sure, a few less fans doesnt mean anything to them when they can just [parasitic bomb] out another Street Fighter or Resident Evil and have those fans eat it up, it is still just plain stupid, and makes them look bad in the game industry. I know nothing of business, but im pretty sure a company does not want to have a bad reputation. It's bad business practice, and gives competing companies the advantage of using the situation to win over the disgruntled fans, with the bait of "Look here! we DO care about you! Capcom may not care, but we do!" And then make a few fan requested games.

Sega seems to listen to the fans, and Nintendo might listen, I cant be too sure, but they almost always seem to follow fan demand. mainly because whatever they put out, fans like. Capcom right now, has an image that they do not listen to their fans, and in fact, do not respect them. Some people very well see the treatment of the Mega man fanbase as Capcom trolling their fanbase. Not just folks in the fanbase itself, but many outside of the Mega Man fanbase too.

This is what CAPCOM is right now. And I wouldn't be surprised that Mega Man fans would be rowdy on those events later on. That would be hilarious to see.

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DASH / Re: Operation: Legends HD Collection as well as a plan for a NEW petition

« on: January 14, 2012, 05:42:37 PM »

Well, I already retorted the Action Man/Trivia issue earlier in this thread.

http://www.rockmancorner.com/2011/05/mega-man-legends-not-coming-to-psn.html
Sven in this video (from 14:20) speaks of the various things which can cause issues.  VA and soundtracks, which he seemingly spoke against previously, are among them.  But there's also logos, middleware, and the fact that early contracts may not have specified digital distribution as acceptable use.

Noteworthy is that Sven starts to talk about Legends 1 specifically, but then stops himself.

My money is on digital distribution.  Because none of what he is talking about stood in the way of MM8, X4, etc., in disc-based collections up to 9 years after their original release.  The PSP ports not coming here could be a simple marketing decision; can you really blame CoA for not bringing over UMDs containing only a single generally unenhanced PS1 game?  Does two games make for much of a compilation?  Even Japan never got Misadventures on PSP, to my knowledge anyway.



There's one other thing we need to call bull on CoA for:  NONE OF THIS stands in the way of DASH 2 Episode 1, because that one was never previously brought to the U.S.  So if they wanted to make a quick digitally distributed buck, there you go.

If Digital Distribution is the issue then this is bad.

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DASH / Re: Operation: Legends HD Collection as well as a plan for a NEW petition

« on: January 12, 2012, 08:57:00 PM »

Huh. Well that could be almost anything really.

Perhaps they had help from an outside entity? Perhaps a scan through the credits of both titles may yield some outside entity names for certain components.

(What about MegaMan 64?)

Maybe. I'll have to check and see.

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DASH / Re: Operation: Legends HD Collection as well as a plan for a NEW petition

« on: January 12, 2012, 05:59:35 AM »

Okay, it took some digging, but I found the quote from Sven that I was looking for.  Granted, this is way back in December 2010 (you know, back when Legends 3 was real):



"Actually, it looks like there's an IP risk on one of the titles so the IP group won't let us re-release it on PSN. We've been trying to see if we can't get that resolved but it's going to take a long time."

*voice actor discussion among the members*

"The issues I'm speaking of are not audio related but I can't elaborate more unfortunately."

http://www.capcom-unity.com/ask_capcom/go/thread/view/7371/26463829/Progress_on_getting_the_Mega_Man_Legends_series_to_PSN



So, some middleware issue, I guess?

Middleware issue? Then what is it?

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DASH / Re: Operation: Legends HD Collection as well as a plan for a NEW petition

« on: January 11, 2012, 08:39:00 PM »

Now that I think about it, I think that there are trademark/licensing issues that are possible.

Legends 1 has the "Action Man" comic book that must be given to Jim for the X Buster.  As some may know, Action Man is already trademarked by a different company.

Legends 2 has the quiz by the Mayor at Manda Island that has a lot of names of songs, titles, music artists, movie stars, and other famous people.  Many of these names are already trademarked.

Knowing the U.S. and its very vague trademark laws, as much as I hate to admit it, rereleasing Megaman Legends 1 and 2 is no longer an option.  Legends 1 and Legends 2 must be remade just like Powered Up and Maverick Hunter X was. 

Edit:  I changed the copyright parts to trademarks. 

I figure as much. Plus, having them remade can be able to remove some of the issues and it's a win-win.

to Sigma Zero X: Regarding voice acting, you think they should involve the people behind Great Adventure on the Five Islands? That would help maybe...

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Rockman Series / Re: 25th Anniversary Logo Leaked

« on: January 11, 2012, 03:42:11 AM »

I can dig it.

Also, man things are really tense here lately...

I approve the idea of a contest to make a better logo for the 25th anniversary of Mega Man.

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Rockman Series / Re: 25th Anniversary Logo Leaked

« on: January 10, 2012, 08:15:37 PM »

I like it. It's pretty cool...

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DASH / Re: Operation: Legends HD Collection as well as a plan for a NEW petition

« on: January 10, 2012, 06:17:07 AM »

I'm surprised that this has gathered some attention though I wonder if it'll be enough. I want to do what I can to spread the word but I need to find a starting point. That for me is all I need so I can prepare to promote.

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DASH / Re: How come we've never seen Mr. and Mrs. Bonne?

« on: January 09, 2012, 03:11:18 AM »

Yeah, well... necroposting is still frowned upon. Try to avoid doing so in the future.

Come on. I'm trying to say something positive about this and you decide to be negative? Seriously. Geez!

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DASH / Re: How come we've never seen Mr. and Mrs. Bonne?

« on: January 08, 2012, 11:04:04 PM »

Yeah, you're right. It's that this got me curious about them. So much so that I even went as far as commission people on deviantART to do artwork regarding the two and they're pretty good.

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News and Announcements / Re: Revamped version of "Rockman X1" to appear on iOS units (iphone/ipad)!

« on: January 08, 2012, 10:42:51 PM »

to VirusChris: I think the same way. I swear, CAPCOM is doing what they can to troll Mega Man fans and try to do whatever possible to kill Mega Man.

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DASH / Operation: Legends HD Collection as well as a plan for a NEW petition

« on: January 08, 2012, 09:39:27 PM »

Now before you say anything, at least hear me out with what I have to say.

Last year was a horrible year for Mega Man fans and let me tell you, a lot of us aren't pretty pleased about it. Legends fans got the worst and as a fan of that series, it really hurt. Nowadays, the three individual Legends games which are Mega Man Legends 1, Legends 2 and The Misadventures of Tron Bonne are worth a lot on sites like eBay especially when they are in a new condition. Also, Sven said it himself that these three games will not be on PSN due to some legal action which made me feel really upset at this. That's why I came up with an idea although at this point, it's becoming a lost cause. My idea is to see the three PS1 games be given an HD remake. A sort of Legends HD Collection if you may giving the three games a much needed improvement in the graphical department. Also, there can be added features such as access to the Old City, new side-quests that can give us access to new weapons, a boss rush mode and so on. I want to make it happen but I feel that not many want to see it happen. Because as Hideo Kojima has said it himself, PS1 games can't handle HD graphics.

Anyway, if this petition is a lost cause then I know it's for naught. But I realize that there should be a new petition being made and it would have to focus on one objection; Convince CAPCOM to Pay the Licensing Fee. Why? Because if they did that then we would have had Legends 1, 2 and Tron Bonne on PSN instead of doing this. I know that CAPCOM can make really bad decisions but if they would at least do something like that, then I feel that the fans would find CAPCOM to be more reliable. Of course, if they can't do that then it proves that CAPCOM just doesn't care and doesn't want to take risks. I'm done with what I have to say on this matter. I plan to make a new petition soon so for now, I'll provide a link to my petition which I think at this point is doomed to fail.

Operation Legends HD Collection

Later.

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DASH / Re: How come we've never seen Mr. and Mrs. Bonne?

« on: January 08, 2012, 07:29:29 PM »

Hey ho, thread necromancer.

Necromancer huh? Why say that.

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News and Announcements / Re: Hope for the Future or Corporate PR? Capcom Boss & PB Discuss Mega Man's Future

« on: December 26, 2011, 07:56:23 AM »

Now if only Capcom can only do the same for their blue bomber, Mega Man neneds to be relevant again.

Quoted for truth. Very indeed.

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DASH / Re: How come we've never seen Mr. and Mrs. Bonne?

« on: December 24, 2011, 07:36:40 PM »

So many theories on the Bonnes' parents that it can take hours for us to figure things out.

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News and Announcements / Re: Hope for the Future or Corporate PR? Capcom Boss & PB Discuss Mega Man's Future

« on: December 24, 2011, 07:34:57 PM »

Figured I'd comment on this one again.  As it turns out, even UMvC3 isn't as sure-fire as Capcom would like.
http://thesilentchief.com/2011/11/29/ultimate-marvel-vs-capcom-3-sells-less-than-30k-out-of-the-gate-in-na/

In all fairness, from what I can tell VGChartz (the source reference for this article) still isn't registering U.S. sales of the game.  They list Europe and Japan sales combined over the first five weeks are totaling in the ballpark of only 60k.

I guess even the 2D fighter nutcases have their limits to how much crap they'll take when an update to render their old game obsolete is released in the same calendar year.  Serves Capcom right, I'd say.  Trouble is, losing money won't convince them to take risks.

I'm trying to not hate Capcom, I really am (and I certainly believe there are cool people who work for them, including those in the CoA branch that I've met), but I seriously believe they are going downhill.  As long as they continue to release lazy [parasitic bomb], then there's only two possible outcomes:
1. It sells, and because people are satisfied with lazy [parasitic bomb], they continue to make lazy [parasitic bomb].
2. It doesn't sell, and Capcom feeling the pinch, doesn't want to spend the money necessary for decent game development.

This is what I mean when I say that the largest damn fanbase in the world (including our theoretical anime-built new one) isn't going to help any if Capcom doesn't change their attitude.

The word I look for here is serves them right. Not to offend anyone here but I think it serves CAPCOM right what they did.

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News and Announcements / Re: Hope for the Future or Corporate PR? Capcom Boss & PB Discuss Mega Man's Future

« on: December 18, 2011, 06:48:57 PM »

A change of name? I like Mega Man as it is. It's appropriate and I like it as it always will be. They can't have it be Rockman because I think the name was taken in the US.

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Rockman Series / Re: It's official... No MMLegends for PSN straight from VP's mouth.

« on: December 18, 2011, 06:09:02 AM »

Hearing about it really hurt me bad. I hate it when that happened.

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Rockman Series / Re: A serious Megaman Anime Production. Would you like it?

« on: December 18, 2011, 06:07:52 AM »

If it works, it works. I loved the Ruby-Spears show as well as the EXE anime... I feel that a new MegaMan anime would help garner some support.

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Off The Wall / Re: See ya later!/Welcome back!

« on: December 18, 2011, 06:05:00 AM »

Hello. My name is Jose aka Megaman-RA.

I'm best known for working on my Mega Man: Reawakened fanfic which can be found on my dA and in Fanfiction.net

I was once a user here but when things have changed, I couldn't access my old account so I now have a new one. And don't worry, I'm here to stay for sure.

Legends Never Die... Yet We Must Keep The Legend Alive.