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Title: Shield Boomerang/Z Knuckle Reflection/Uses list
Post by: Gojira345 on October 14, 2009, 06:58:59 AM
More on this later, but I'd love to have a collection of this info for a guide.

All things the shield boomerang can reflect?
Title: Re: Shield Boomerang/Z Knuckle Reflection/Uses list
Post by: Harruhy on October 14, 2009, 07:05:39 AM
Bullets.
Title: Re: Shield Boomerang/Z Knuckle Reflection/Uses list
Post by: AquaTeamV3 on October 14, 2009, 01:39:14 PM
It sucks but it's true, the SB can only reflect those little yellow pellets fired by minor enemies.  IIRC the same goes for the Z-Knuckle shields.
Title: Re: Shield Boomerang/Z Knuckle Reflection/Uses list
Post by: Gojira345 on October 14, 2009, 04:59:53 PM
I thought that the shield could at least BLOCK some other projectiles WITHOUT reflecting them. Could've sworn I've viewed a hard mode vid of someone using the shield boomerang to block the laser's from Copy X.....


What about the Z Knuckle? Any boss fight it is wildly useful for? I know the Axe is good for the moth, and that the bare knuckle is good for Mandrago, and that you can get some elemental advantages against some bosses, like using the fire sword against Lunawolf. The Drill works great on Weil 1 boss as well.
Title: Re: Shield Boomerang/Z Knuckle Reflection/Uses list
Post by: Da Dood on October 14, 2009, 05:18:36 PM
You can do many interesting things with the Z Knuckle:

- Pull out the first boss's blue cords to make the laser beam smaller
- Pull Mandrago out of the ground (though this might make the fight last longer)
- Pull Kraken out of his hiding attack
- Steal the purple sword from Weil 1
- Destroy the vines at Mandrago's level faster
- Destroy the buried plants at Mandrago's level faster

As for Z Knuckle weapons that work well against bosses:

- Bombs against the first boss
- Elemental attacks for elemental bosses, classic
- Purple sword for Weil 1 or 2

There's probably a ton more. Z Knuckle is an incredible feature.
Title: Re: Shield Boomerang/Z Knuckle Reflection/Uses list
Post by: VixyNyan on October 14, 2009, 05:49:46 PM
- Steal the purple sword from Weil 1

I feel that keeping the Giant Axe around makes the fight easier. (http://www.justin.tv/clip/518407d29fc25425)

- Destroy the vines at Mandrago's level faster

That was fun~ ^.^ (http://www.justin.tv/clip/69545e6cc170a07d)

- Bombs against the first boss

Yea I agree there. ^^ (http://www.justin.tv/clip/9a9a7275e21ccad3)

- Purple sword for Weil 1 or 2

Since you can only keep one sword at a time, like I said in my first comment, Giant Axe is better. o.o
Title: Re: Shield Boomerang/Z Knuckle Reflection/Uses list
Post by: Satoryu on October 14, 2009, 05:50:12 PM
Z Knuckle's most useful feature is Grab Ass. By far.
Title: Re: Shield Boomerang/Z Knuckle Reflection/Uses list
Post by: Night on October 14, 2009, 09:08:10 PM
- Pull Kraken out of his hiding attack

Didn't know you could do that! Where's my game cart? I wanna try that!
Title: Re: Shield Boomerang/Z Knuckle Reflection/Uses list
Post by: VixyNyan on October 14, 2009, 09:16:34 PM
Didn't know you could do that! Where's my game cart? I wanna try that!

You can also quickly look at the end of this video. ^^ (http://www.justin.tv/clip/822750d299d087a4)
Title: Re: Shield Boomerang/Z Knuckle Reflection/Uses list
Post by: Align on October 14, 2009, 09:38:37 PM
Man, justintv is the worst thing ever. Won't even let me jump beyond the currently loaded part to the end.
Title: Re: Shield Boomerang/Z Knuckle Reflection/Uses list
Post by: VixyNyan on October 14, 2009, 09:41:05 PM
I don't like it either. It's why I'm moving the clips to the 'tube. Is a slow process. >U<
Title: Re: Shield Boomerang/Z Knuckle Reflection/Uses list
Post by: Gaia on October 14, 2009, 09:56:04 PM
You can do many interesting things with the Z Knuckle:
- Pull out the first boss's blue cords to make the laser beam smaller

I didn't knew that.

- Pull Mandrago out of the ground (though this might make the fight last longer)

Goin' the old way baby~

- Pull Kraken out of his hiding attack

How's that even remotely possible with such timing? o.o;

- Steal the purple sword from Weil 1

Hmm.. come to think of it, I did it once, was fun until the dude got the upper hand.

Also, if I remember, I grabbed Sol Titanion where it hurts at least once..  [eyebrow]
Title: Re: Shield Boomerang/Z Knuckle Reflection/Uses list
Post by: Da Dood on October 14, 2009, 10:15:44 PM
You have a pretty decent window to pull Kraken, just aim for the ink as soon as it appears. :D

I remember, you can also use the Z Knuckle to hang from Weil's horn thingy during the final battle to dodge the laser. I guess most people know about this, but I was thrilled when I found it...
Title: Re: Shield Boomerang/Z Knuckle Reflection/Uses list
Post by: Gaia on October 14, 2009, 10:28:20 PM
Yes, I remember reading that from TMMHP before going to fight Weil when the game first came out. Took me several tries though, imagne the difficulty in hard mode.
Title: Re: Shield Boomerang/Z Knuckle Reflection/Uses list
Post by: Satoryu on October 14, 2009, 11:38:52 PM
http://www.rockmanpm.com/i/flash/Set2.swf
Title: Re: Shield Boomerang/Z Knuckle Reflection/Uses list
Post by: Night on October 14, 2009, 11:45:41 PM
I wish I had the chain rod for that fight ;_;
Title: Re: Shield Boomerang/Z Knuckle Reflection/Uses list
Post by: Hypershell on October 15, 2009, 03:19:59 AM
Z Knuckle's most useful feature is Grab Ass. By far.
Except that it does not provoke a death-inducing bitchslap, which leaves it inferior to Trigger's Lifter.

I just love Z-Knuckle for the Flame Sword.  Too bad you can't carry weapons between levels, 'cuz that thing rocks.
Title: Re: Shield Boomerang/Z Knuckle Reflection/Uses list
Post by: Gojira345 on October 15, 2009, 03:28:23 AM
Is there a list of every Zknuckle grab?

Also, if one where to Zknuckle only the game, does every stage have a good grabbable weapon for each boss?

Why didn't it get it's own EX Skill....
Title: Re: Shield Boomerang/Z Knuckle Reflection/Uses list
Post by: Dr. Wily II on October 15, 2009, 03:29:21 AM
http://www.rockmanpm.com/?p=zero/rockmanzero4/zknuckle
Title: Re: Shield Boomerang/Z Knuckle Reflection/Uses list
Post by: Hypershell on October 15, 2009, 04:00:43 AM
Why didn't it get it's own EX Skill....
You got me.  No reason whatsoever one shouldn't have gotten a ground-punching move from Hell The Giant. O:<
Title: Re: Shield Boomerang/Z Knuckle Reflection/Uses list
Post by: Nekomata on October 15, 2009, 05:20:14 AM
this thread in a nutshell:
gojira didn't check the main page, also asks a question that everyone should already know.
Title: Re: Shield Boomerang/Z Knuckle Reflection/Uses list
Post by: Gojira345 on October 15, 2009, 03:05:07 PM
Also in this topic;

People whom can't stand when the search function isn't used as they wish.

One person with a problem out of 10 whom don't.

Chill.
Title: Re: Shield Boomerang/Z Knuckle Reflection/Uses list
Post by: Nekomata on October 15, 2009, 08:01:01 PM
lurk more, kid.
Title: Re: Shield Boomerang/Z Knuckle Reflection/Uses list
Post by: Night on October 15, 2009, 08:51:19 PM
I wish I had the chain rod for that fight ;_;
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v96/Demonlord/Rockman%20ZX/zero4end1.png)
Title: Re: Shield Boomerang/Z Knuckle Reflection/Uses list
Post by: VixyNyan on October 15, 2009, 08:55:40 PM
Oh lol, saved~ 0v0
Title: Re: Shield Boomerang/Z Knuckle Reflection/Uses list
Post by: Align on October 15, 2009, 08:58:59 PM
But then, you could just as well do that stuff with the knuckle.
Title: Re: Shield Boomerang/Z Knuckle Reflection/Uses list
Post by: Blackhook on October 15, 2009, 09:19:46 PM
Why couldnĀ“t you do that with the Knuckle....
Title: Re: Shield Boomerang/Z Knuckle Reflection/Uses list
Post by: Hypershell on October 16, 2009, 02:57:39 AM
...need something sharp to break the glass?

I'd rather use a hook than my bare hand to grab Weil anyway.  He's no Ciel. >U<

One person with a problem out of 10 whom don't.
I'm going to say the same thing about Neko as I did a certain huggable-as-a-porcupine previous staffer of another MegaMan board:

It's just the way they are.  You'll get used to it.  ...or have a psychotic episode.
Title: Re: Shield Boomerang/Z Knuckle Reflection/Uses list
Post by: Flame on October 16, 2009, 07:35:43 AM
Yknow, it would have been hilarious if you could use the Z knuckle and just outright pluck Weil out of the thing like you do with mandrago.
Title: Re: Shield Boomerang/Z Knuckle Reflection/Uses list
Post by: Night on October 16, 2009, 12:13:44 PM
Well, since you asked so nicely...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v96/Demonlord/Rockman%20ZX/zero4end2.png)
Title: Re: Shield Boomerang/Z Knuckle Reflection/Uses list
Post by: Dr. Wily II on October 16, 2009, 02:41:59 PM
Simply brilliant... XD
Title: Re: Shield Boomerang/Z Knuckle Reflection/Uses list
Post by: Flame on October 16, 2009, 06:27:34 PM
Oh thanks. God that IS brilliant.
Title: Re: Shield Boomerang/Z Knuckle Reflection/Uses list
Post by: Pringer X on October 16, 2009, 06:31:51 PM
I'd pimp-slap a [sonic slicer] with my Z-Knuckle. I told her to make me a sammich an hour ago!
Title: Re: Shield Boomerang/Z Knuckle Reflection/Uses list
Post by: Blackhook on October 16, 2009, 10:05:23 PM
I wanted to do a Shining finger joke...but meh:
[spoiler](http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/387/zvw.png)[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Shield Boomerang/Z Knuckle Reflection/Uses list
Post by: Align on October 16, 2009, 10:18:54 PM
It's more of a reaching motion than a punching one though.
Title: Re: Shield Boomerang/Z Knuckle Reflection/Uses list
Post by: Dr. Wily II on October 17, 2009, 05:19:26 AM
Related:
(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u25/Dr_Wily_II/zero4Rok.jpg)
[spoiler=Translation]
Starting on the left, top to bottom...

New power
Panel 1:
RZ4's newest addition...
A new power, being able to take an enemy's weapon.

Panel 2:
WARNING WARNING (8D)

Panel 3:
WEAPON CHANGE!

Panel 4:
Aquisition successful
Levi: AH YAH!


Beyond the strongest
Panel 1:
RZ4's newest addition
A power that can make the impossible possible.

Panel 2:
WARNING WARNING (Aww at Levi blushing, darn lucky Zero smirking)

Panel 3:
WEAPON CHANGE!

Panel 4:
Ambush successful[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Shield Boomerang/Z Knuckle Reflection/Uses list
Post by: Thanatos-Zero on October 17, 2009, 07:26:49 PM
I wanted to do a Shining finger joke...but meh:
[spoiler](http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/387/zvw.png)[/spoiler]

Fave.. ehm saved!

Will we get a Fatality like that of Sub-Zero? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2JNxeWO_wA)

I think yes!  8D

Title: Re: Shield Boomerang/Z Knuckle Reflection/Uses list
Post by: Gojira345 on October 19, 2009, 04:46:06 PM
Well, at least the boomerang seems to block some boss attacks...like Fefnir's fire in MMZ2. It blocks every projectile he has that isn't the ground quake....
Title: Re: Shield Boomerang/Z Knuckle Reflection/Uses list
Post by: OmegaZ on November 09, 2009, 10:45:54 PM
...

that could work

(I really hope replying to a 3 day old post isn't necroposting. :|)
Title: Re: Shield Boomerang/Z Knuckle Reflection/Uses list
Post by: Zan on November 09, 2009, 10:48:17 PM
October 19 was 3 days ago? :O Time travel.
Title: Re: Shield Boomerang/Z Knuckle Reflection/Uses list
Post by: Flame on November 09, 2009, 10:48:57 PM
Only 30 days or more is necroposting. And only if theres no relevant, new info posted. As long as it isnt past a whole month, its fine.
Title: Re: Shield Boomerang/Z Knuckle Reflection/Uses list
Post by: Satoryu on November 09, 2009, 10:55:33 PM
He probably meant 3 weeks.
Title: Re: Shield Boomerang/Z Knuckle Reflection/Uses list
Post by: OmegaZ on November 12, 2009, 11:36:18 PM
I must've looked at the wrong thing then. :W