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Title: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Flame on August 05, 2009, 08:54:47 PM
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-08-04/4kids-entertainment-reportedly-put-itself-up-for-sale
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-08-05/4kids-retains-financial-advisor-to-consider-strategies

*crosses fingers and hopes for bankruptcy*

Imagine if Funi got a hold of all those 4kids licenses...
Yugioh...
Pokemon...
Sonic X...
One Piece...
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Jericho on August 05, 2009, 08:56:41 PM
As much as 4Kids localizations can be terrible, isn't it a bit much to wish bankruptcy upon them? =/
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Blackhook on August 05, 2009, 09:00:13 PM
They had it comming....they ruined One Piece and Yu-Gi-Oh
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: TeaOfJay on August 05, 2009, 09:02:50 PM
Imagine if Funi got a hold of all those 4kids licenses...
Yugioh...
Pokemon...
Sonic X...
One Piece...

The Pokemon license was already taken by Pokemon USA.
Funi already has the One Piece License.

So really, it's just Yugioh and Sonic X. Oddly enough, Funi is responsible for the Yugioh uncut episodes on the DVDs (Not sure which DVDs has 'em, but if you look on the box you'll find Funi's logo on it).
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Sparky on August 05, 2009, 09:03:55 PM
You all seem to be forgetting about the Kirby anime.
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Night on August 05, 2009, 09:12:50 PM
Oh how I wish we could...
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Rock Bomb on August 05, 2009, 09:27:00 PM
I knew this would happen eventually. Ever since Ebaum's original owner was thrown out of his own business, I just knew 4kids would be next.
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Sky Child on August 05, 2009, 09:29:53 PM
You all seem to be forgetting about the Kirby anime.
but klobba dat dere kirbeh was awesome
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Sparky on August 05, 2009, 09:30:28 PM
but klobba dat dere kirbeh was awesome

That I must admit.
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Wanda Bear on August 05, 2009, 09:31:22 PM
You all seem to be forgetting about the Kirby anime.
I'm with Sparky on that one. Cpapcom should learn from this.........MWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: The Drunken Dishwasher on August 05, 2009, 09:37:20 PM
As much 4Kids did ruin Yugioh in terms of plot and situations.  They still provided us awesome actors~
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Strider Xhaiden on August 05, 2009, 09:41:06 PM
This raises some interesting possibilities.....
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Saber on August 05, 2009, 09:43:20 PM
This raises some interesting possibilities.....

FUNimation's got enough on their hands I'm afraid.
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Strider Xhaiden on August 05, 2009, 09:44:14 PM
FUNimation's got enough on their hands I'm afraid.

Hm....valid point. I never specifically mentioned Funimation, but....
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Saber on August 05, 2009, 09:46:41 PM
Hm....valid point. I never specifically mentioned Funimation, but....

But you thought it. Everybody nowadays thinks that FUNimation is North America's Anime Messiah since they started picking up so many series from Geneon, ADV and so on.
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Strider Xhaiden on August 05, 2009, 09:49:34 PM
Wait, what?

I live in the UK. I've never particularly cared who owns the license to publish what. Most of the stuff I want to watch never gets released over here anyway.
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Saber on August 05, 2009, 09:51:52 PM
If that's the case, nevermind.

Yet, you as someone from the UK gets A LOT MORE ANIME than people on the European shore. I already imported several anime series from the UK because no one bothered to release them anywhere else in Europe.
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Protoman Blues on August 05, 2009, 09:52:41 PM
They had it comming....they ruined One Piece and Yu-Gi-Oh

Excuse me, ruined YuGiOh?  They improved upon it, without question!
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Strider Xhaiden on August 05, 2009, 09:54:26 PM
If that's the case, nevermind.

Yet, you as someone from the UK gets A LOT MORE ANIME than people on the European shore. I already imported several anime series from the UK because no one bothered to release them anywhere else in Europe.

I can understand that for some of them, but I'm not interested in stuff like Haruhi. And they've only just released the first volume of Gurren Lagann over here, and there's still no indication that the Dragonball Z boxsets will ever make it over here either.
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Saber on August 05, 2009, 09:56:58 PM
Excuse me, ruined YuGiOh?  They improved upon it, without question!

I'm going to [tornado fang]ing KILL you...
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Strider Xhaiden on August 05, 2009, 09:57:18 PM
I'm going to [tornado fang]ing KILL you...

Get in line, pal.
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Saber on August 05, 2009, 09:58:19 PM
Get in line, pal.

Not when it's about the Japanese dub of Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters. The Seiyuu are just too awesome for that.
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Strider Xhaiden on August 05, 2009, 09:59:59 PM
Oh, then by all means go ahead of me.
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Protoman Blues on August 05, 2009, 10:04:07 PM
Are you kidding?  The Eng Dub is PAH-RICELESS.  It's so awful, it's awesome.  I mean, it's insane over the top voice acting for insane over the top PLOTS.  It worked SO well together.  Plus, I mean, Brooklyn Joey.  Again, IM-PROVED ON IT!
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Jericho on August 05, 2009, 10:04:52 PM
Are you kidding?  The Eng Dub is PAH-RICELESS.  It's so awful, it's awesome.  I mean, it's insane over the top voice acting for insane over the top PLOTS.  It worked SO well together.  Plus, I mean, Brooklyn Joey.  Again, IM-PROVED ON IT!

Discussion over. XD
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Saber on August 05, 2009, 10:05:36 PM
Sorry, but I'm not the kind of guy who likes trash movies or anything trash-related. And no, Jyonouchi with a Brooklyn accent is just stupid.
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Protoman Blues on August 05, 2009, 10:08:27 PM
See, that's where you and I differ, my friend.  I love over-the-top [parasitic bomb] like this, whether in cartoons, tv, movies, or even music.  There are certain things in life that I think are so awful, they become awesome.  YuGiOh is absolutely one of them, because the story, plot, and characters are already over-the-top.  All 4Kids did was add over-the-top voice acting to it, and it was SO bad, it made me want to play the card game just so I could yell out DARK MAGICIAN, and duel in an over-the-top manner! 
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Satoryu on August 05, 2009, 10:13:30 PM
Everybody nowadays thinks that FUNimation is North America's Anime Messiah since they started picking up so many series from Geneon, ADV and so on.

messiah? no. they're just getting closer and closer to monopolizing anime in America.

Who you gonna call? Trustbusters. if you know what this is from, i love you.
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Wanda Bear on August 05, 2009, 10:25:37 PM
Funny songs about presidents! OMG! How did I forget the name!
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Protoman Blues on August 05, 2009, 10:28:30 PM
Well [parasitic bomb].  Now I'm in the mood to duel someone!
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Wanda Bear on August 05, 2009, 10:30:57 PM
Well [parasitic bomb].  Now I'm in the mood to duel someone!
*raises hand* You know you want to PB. bVd Wait, you have Yugioh cards?!
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Protoman Blues on August 05, 2009, 10:35:26 PM
I do indeed.  I have quite a bit of YuGiOh cards actually!   8D
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Gaia on August 05, 2009, 10:36:07 PM
Everybody nowadays thinks that FUNimation is North America's Anime Messiah

Uhh, no I don't. You might want to think about the OVER 9000 fad that was started by the early DBZ dubs.. they can generate more memes than 4Kids, ADV, and others combined.

Other than that, it's not that big of a deal, but who in the right mind would forget that they (4Kids) dubbed Fighting Foodons or the likes of Beyblade, Shaman King, etc is beyond me (I used to collect those tops back in the day). They've dubbed more than Sonic X too (someone correct me on this, it's the last time I've seen another anime dubbed by them since Kirby).

As for the cards, I have a book full of them~
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Night on August 05, 2009, 10:49:16 PM
I do indeed.  I have quite a bit of YuGiOh cards actually!   8D

I actually fancy the magicians myself! I have a whole deck centered around them.
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Jericho on August 05, 2009, 10:50:55 PM
I actually fancy the magicians myself! I have a whole deck centered around them.

I adored the magicians in Yu-Gi-Oh. I miss my Dark Magician of Chaos Deck so much now. :'(
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Protoman Blues on August 05, 2009, 10:52:42 PM
I actually fancy the magicians myself! I have a whole deck centered around them.

I have my Dark Paladin deck still together.  My other two decks right now are my Fiend Deck and my Burn/Heal deck.
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Night on August 05, 2009, 10:56:22 PM
I have my Dark Paladin deck still together.  My other two decks right now are my Fiend Deck and my Burn/Heal deck.
I haven't touched mine in a while though, but I'm thinking about getting that new structure deck for Magic types...
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Romantic Fool on August 05, 2009, 11:00:22 PM
Yusei character deck ftw.
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Wanda Bear on August 05, 2009, 11:33:13 PM
I have:
My wonderful Black Rose deck <3
Cyber Dragon deck
Ancient Gear deck
Cyber Dark deck
Volcanic/burn deck
Touhou deck (8D)
Charmer deck
White/Ebon deck
Rebecca Hawkins' deck
Reactor deck
B.E.S. deck
Rock deck
and my Megaman deck (8D)
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Flame on August 05, 2009, 11:38:11 PM
but klobba dat dere kirbeh was awesome
No one said it wasnt. 4Kids has good VA's, (IMO. They actually act pretty well.) its the edits that are made that kills the popularity.
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Protoman Blues on August 05, 2009, 11:43:32 PM
I have:
My wonderful Black Rose deck <3
Cyber Dragon deck
Ancient Gear deck
Cyber Dark deck
Volcanic/burn deck
Touhou deck (8D)
Charmer deck
White/Ebon deck
Rebecca Hawkins' deck
Reactor deck
B.E.S. deck
Rock deck
and my Megaman deck (8D)

That's a lot of decks.  LoL, I don't know if my old school decks can compete!  XD
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Alice in Entropy on August 05, 2009, 11:46:48 PM
Gonna have to agree with Flame on this one. I don't have a problem with the voice actors, especially Mike Pollock.

I like Mike Pollock, damnit.
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Rin on August 06, 2009, 01:27:04 AM
I don't have that much problem with voice actors either.
It's just the EDITS! JESUS CHRIST THE EDITS!

And I really like the dubbed Kirby.

Well, all in all... this will probably teach them to dub anime the right way.
Pffft... yeah right.
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Girla PurpleHeart on August 06, 2009, 02:52:48 AM
I'm surprised that 4Kids Entertainment is getting brought out. I mean, yes I do hate some of the dubs and all, but I remembered that 4Kids dubbed Pokemon and Kirby, but things went downhill afterward ever since they edited a lot of stuff out on Anime. But it's a quite shame for those people who were getting laid-off, due to financial crisis. This happened to DiC Entertainment as well, when it was been defunct by Cookie Jar Entertainment last year.
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Police Girl on August 06, 2009, 03:06:18 AM
Gonna have to agree with Flame on this one. I don't have a problem with the voice actors, especially Mike Pollock.

I like Mike Pollock, damnit.

Same here, the guy is great as Eggman. Its faithful to how he originally sounded.
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Flame on August 06, 2009, 03:30:51 AM
I think he's a great Eggman. Dare I say almost better than the original.
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Alice in Entropy on August 06, 2009, 03:32:44 AM
Whoah, Flame, lower your voice. Honour the dead and all that. Besides, Deem Bristow was awesome.

But yeah, Pollock is equally good. He has a nice balance of comedy and villainy in his tone.
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Bag of Magic Food on August 06, 2009, 03:57:22 AM
Yeah, I don't think he was better than Long John Baldry.
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Alice in Entropy on August 06, 2009, 04:01:01 AM
...

Wait. Yeah. I think Bag o' Magic Food just finished this discussion.
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Flame on August 06, 2009, 04:01:39 AM
I guess not then.
Yet I still dont understand why folks bash Pollock. Is it because he's 4kids? Is that IT? I mena, he does a great Eggman voice.
actually, I dont mind any of the voices. the only one that peeves me juuust a little is Shadow. he sounds just a touch too whispery. his SA2/SH voice was his best. dark, yet not too much.
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Irgendein on August 06, 2009, 04:02:31 AM
Yeah, I don't think he was better than Long John Baldry.
This (of course), but I will admit that I think Mike Pollock does a fine job as well, I want to strangle Jason Griffith and the rest though
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Romantic Fool on August 06, 2009, 04:21:45 AM
Well, the VA's from 4kids have gotten a little bit more natural in their voice acting. It's just that Mike Pollock pwns the rest of them.

On a related but off-topic note, there really should be another Sonic movie.
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Flame on August 06, 2009, 04:35:01 AM
I only saw parts of the one versus metal sonic. that one was awesome. even if Knuckles was mistaken for a mole.
Sonic looked best in that sonic CD cutscene look he had. IMO.

also, looks like that one guys never gonna finish Cosmic Chase.
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Romantic Fool on August 06, 2009, 04:51:40 AM
Well, anyways, serves 4kids right, I mean they had it coming to them after butchering quite a couple of anime that I really did like.
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Waifu on August 06, 2009, 04:59:03 PM
I don't really like to bash on 4Kids too much especially when they gave us Dan Green for Yami Yugi or how they dub the Pokemon movies and Sonic games where they actually do a better job. I still prefer the old Sonic voices over 4Kids but it is still awesome but Dan Green's Yami is so over the top that it made me want to play the card game just to put on stunts like this.
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Rin on August 06, 2009, 09:41:55 PM
I like the new Sonic voices from 4Kids more than I liked the old. There, I said.
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Flame on August 07, 2009, 12:32:52 AM
FIND THE COMPUTER ROOM!
Sonic Heroes Vector will be missed.
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: The Great Gonzo on August 07, 2009, 01:40:55 AM
I don't mind some of the new voices, but Amy's, Gamma's and Cream's make me want to do terrible things to my ears.

On the subject of 4kids themselves: I hated them for not releasing uncut versions of anything on DVD, but bankruptcy? ...Karma?
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Flame on August 07, 2009, 02:14:33 AM
I don't mind some of the new voices, but Amy's, Gamma's and Cream's make me want to do terrible things to my ears.

On the subject of 4kids themselves: I hated them for not releasing uncut versions of anything on DVD, but bankruptcy? ...Karma?
And nothing about Vector? Seriosuly? Hes easily the worst one.
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Satoryu on August 07, 2009, 02:33:04 AM
the worst is Dan Green as Knuckles. i [tornado fang]ing hate it.
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Bag of Magic Food on August 07, 2009, 03:34:24 AM
They need to bring back Mephiles so Dan Green can keep voicing him instead.
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Satoryu on August 07, 2009, 03:36:18 AM
true, he needs to send us BACK IN TIME again.
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Bag of Magic Food on August 07, 2009, 03:38:07 AM
Hah, did you see my stupid Youtube Poop where Mephiles kept saying "BACK IN TIME" until it turned into the Huey Lewis song?
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Flame on August 07, 2009, 04:08:44 AM
They need to bring back Mephiles so Dan Green can keep voicing him instead.
I swear all I heard was Yami talking there.

then theres the Ice cream man in Unleashed.
haha... Dan Green is awesome.  XD
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Satoryu on August 07, 2009, 04:27:19 AM
Hah, did you see my stupid Youtube Poop where Mephiles kept saying "BACK IN TIME" until it turned into the Huey Lewis song?

i love that one.

but that alone is insufficient.
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Bag of Magic Food on August 07, 2009, 04:30:15 AM
Next time, instead of selling ice cream, he should sell LAMP OIL, ROPE, and BOMBS?!.
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Satoryu on August 07, 2009, 05:01:53 AM
aw man, that one's not on youtube anymore. [parasitic bomb].
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Flame on August 11, 2009, 08:20:06 PM
Quote
The American licensing and distribution company 4Kids Entertainment revealed in its Securities and Exchange Commission 10-Q report on Monday that it had an unaudited net loss of US$13.75 million for the quarter ending on June 30. 4Kids recorded a net loss of US$5.532 million during the same period last year. 4Kids had unaudited net revenues of US$4.401 million during the most recent quarter, compared to US$16.54 million in during the same period last year. For the six months ending on June 30, the company reported US$14.6 million in net revenues and US$15.8 in net loss, compared to US$31.6 million and US$11.9 million, respectively, for the same period last year.

4Kids attributed US$7.25 million of the quarterly net loss to a loss on the sale of "one of its auction rate securities" that are not related to day-to-day business operations. Chairman and CEO Alfred R. Kahn also noted that his company shipped US$2.6 million of Chaotic trading cards during the quarter, but it cannot record those sales as revenue until those cards are actually sold to consumers later in the year.
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Gaia on August 11, 2009, 08:33:17 PM
Chaotic does live up to it's name then.. hehe.
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Flame on August 12, 2009, 12:07:14 AM
I remember when Cartoons used to be hand drawn on paper... Anyone else remember those days? when there was very little computer involve in the drawing...
I miss those days...
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Gaia on August 12, 2009, 12:09:55 AM
The only thing we have left from those days are the Simpsons and Futurama, maybe even some of the Adult Swim lineup and a few out there that never followed the "Live Action" and the "CGI" trend that's not made in a film school, random overseas anime dub or in flash; when I first saw the Simpsons and Futurama movies, they were like a breath of fresh air.. and not a god forbid animated soap opera (you know, the kind where "Friendship gets shoved down our throats" bullcrap and the power of love? yeah, those).

Good thing Boomerang can bang us with her nostalgia here in amercia.. while some old shows  get randomly slapped on into random times, like the Eds.
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Flame on August 12, 2009, 12:19:13 AM
Yeah. Flash shows honestly blow ass. theyre never good. I have yet to watch a Flash cartoon on TV that was good. (Online fan made stuff tends to be better. but has no fixed schedule)
and CGI's getting old. Hence why now everything is in 3D.
[tornado fang], I remember when Disney used to have drawn cartoons. now they're all Pixar CG. which irks me. I want a good, hand drawn cartoon!
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Rin on August 12, 2009, 05:52:13 PM
My favorite flash cartoon of the recent years is Yin Yang Yo. It's also safe to say that it's the better than all those other flash shits.

The problem is not just with the fact that they're animated in flash. The problem is... how [tornado fang]ing lame most of those "cartoons" are.
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Sniper X on August 12, 2009, 06:37:25 PM
I want a good, hand drawn cartoon!
I think the new movie called The Princess and the Frog is drawn by paper.
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Gaia on August 12, 2009, 06:48:12 PM
I think the new movie called The Princess and the Frog is drawn by paper.

What about Ponyo? that looks hand-drawn to me. :/
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Sniper X on August 12, 2009, 07:00:40 PM
What about Ponyo? that looks hand-drawn to me. :/
Studio Ghibli movies always drawn on paper.
Title: Re: 4Kids in Financial issues.
Post by: Flame on August 13, 2009, 07:44:31 AM
the thing with folks like disney is that the stories were never originally theirs. They were mostly old as dirt fairy tales. they picked them up and animated them. So once theres no more of those popular ones, they try to amke stuff up to make it interesting. the teres how Pixar almost like, owns the disney animation studio.