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Rockman & Community => Rockman Series => Zero => Topic started by: Yllisos Zanon on November 09, 2008, 07:39:55 AM
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Just to name a few to start this.
Pheonik Magnion= Pheonix: an ancient mystical bird born from ashes, dies by fire. Is said to be a symbol of resurrection.
Tretesta Kelverian= Cerberus: the three headed hound that gaurds the gates of Hades.
I know there is quite the list in this series alone, once I get a complete listing, I'll post it.
Anyone can help with this.
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Fefnir: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fafnir
Harpuia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harpy
Leviathan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leviathan
Phantom: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost
Aztec Falcon: I don't remember if there even was a consensus about this one, and I suck at Mesoamerican myths
Golem: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golem
Maha Ganeshariff: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganesha
Orochi Arm: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orochi
Anubis Necromancess the Third: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anubis
Blizzack Staggroff: possibly no mythological reference
Hanumachine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanuman
Asura Basura: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asura
Herculious Anchortus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hercules --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hercules_Beetle
Hyleg Ourobockle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouroboros
Poler Kamrous: there used to be something about some Eskimo deity, but I really have no idea.
Phoenix Magnion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_(mythology)
Panter Fauclaws: possibly no mythological reference
Burble Hekelot: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heqet
Kuwagust Anchus: possibly no mythological reference
Flazing Flizard: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salamander_(legendary_creature)
Childree Inarabitta: no idea on this one
Helbat Schilt: possibly none
Deathdanz Mantisk: none other than the relation to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grim_reaper
Cubit Foxtar: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyuubi_fox
Glacier le Cactank: possibly none
Volteel Biblio: possibly none
Trestesta Kelverian: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerberus
Nobile Mandrago: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandragora
Pegasolta Eclair: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pegasus
Heat Gemblem: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Tortoise
Fenri Lundaege: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenrir
Popla Cocapetri: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cockatrice <-- lol censhorship
Tech Kraken: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kraken
Mino Magnaxe/Magnus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minotaur
Sol Titanion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titania
That's all I can remember right now
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... You mention a demi-god like Hercules and an entity such as the Grim-Reaper yet you don't consider Vampires and their relation to other bloodsucking creatures such as the Vampire Bat to be worth mentioning?
Aside from that, ALL Mythos Repliroids have some mythological and folkloric roots. Eels, Stags, Stag Beetles, Rabbits, Panther, Falcon. All are creatures that have appeared in stories with possibly special powers and/or are worshiped in some manner. Even a cactus is mythological in some parts of this world.
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... You mention a demi-god like Hercules and an entity such as the Grim-Reaper yet you don't consider Vampires and their relation to other bloodsucking creatures such as the Vampire Bat to be worth mentioning?
Honestly I'm not a fan of the Reaper-Mantisk thing, but I couldn't find much pointing towards Schilt's vampirism other than being a bat, and having that aristocrat personality of his and his obsession with manners. I chose to stay on the safe side.
Aside from that, ALL Mythos Repliroids have some mythological and folkloric roots.
Sorry. I missed the conclusion of the Mythos vs. Mutos discussions, and I ignore where that rules comes from.
Eels, Stags, Stag Beetles, Rabbits, Panther, Falcon. All are creatures that have appeared in stories with possibly special powers and/or are worshiped in some manner. Even a cactus is mythological in some parts of this world.
I dug my own grave as consecuence of the previous rule and by saying "possibly none" instead of "None I've been informed of". As true as your statement is, I'm not completely checkmated since you didn't give a list of possible suspects to fill those gaps, so right now your claim sounds more like "what are the chances of some culture not having already mythified all these creatures?"
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Sorry. I missed the conclusion of the Mythos vs. Mutos discussions, and I ignore where that rules comes from.
ミュートス
Mythos beer uses the same symbols. Also:
Message from Dr. Weil. Get equipped with MMZOCW.
Mutos Reploid
Reploids created by Neo Arcadia to protect humans. Their designs are based on divine creatures.
Based on figures from various mythologies and fables, they exude the very essence of guardians.
By the connection to mythology and fables, Mythos is the more accurate term. Vile Numbers are also considered Mythos Repliroids.
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Good, but we still don't know the concrete myths.
Also, what was the name of Ragnarok's core, the one Weil fuses with. It was named after some Norse sword owned by some (ice?) giant.
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Laevatein.
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Uh, wasn't Laevatein, according to the drama tracks, the control room of Ragnarok instead of the core? The very room you fought Kraft in? The symbolism of Ragnarok core being a sword pointing down to Earth more makes it seem like the well-known Sword of Damocles, then again, Damocles is from Greek mythology I recall, not Norse like the entire Ragnarok thing.
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Quoting MarshmallowMan:
Laevatein is Ragnarok's sword-shaped core. The control room where Zero fought Craft was where the control module for Laevatein was operated and regulated from.
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I believe it's literally the station's computer brain. The diagram in Vile's Incident shows Energen stores surrounding the center of the station, so it probably isn't directly related to power supply/output besides the regulation of it. But once Vile is connected to the brain of the ship, it would all in essence sort of become part of him, perhaps.
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Some of them are pretty obvious mythology references, others are not so, but still, I prefer to call all of them Neo Arcadians instead.
I really doubt that Glacier le Cactank has one though.
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besides being Glacier + cactus + tank.
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Laevatein is Ragnarok's sword-shaped core. The control room where Zero fought Craft was where the control module for Laevatein was operated and regulated from.
What I said. The track description is very clear that Laevatein is the sword-core thing. The control room is where it can be interfaced with, without plugging yourself in. Probably a bad analogy, but if it were a starship like the Enterprise, using computers they run the ship's functions from the main deck, but the actual means which perform these tasks are in other places, computing and engineering decks and what have you.
I remember Kamrous is was from Ainu culture.
I really wonder what the significance of the cactus is, if it's a myth somewhere or just pop culture or what. Dash and ZX also have talking cactus references. Amingo of MvC2, who seems to be a kind of guardian of nature. You'd think there'd be an origin somewhere, but I don't know what it is.
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I usually go to pantheon.org for this sort of thing, now if memory serves me right, the stag and rabbit do have a reference, through native american legends. Plus they are part of the native american birth signs and/or aztec signs.
In fact, I think I know where I can find a bat referance. I'll get back to you all on that one.
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A quick little something I just found. Click on Adaox on the page.
http://pantheon.org/areas/mythology/americas/native_american/articles.html
First Found bat finding. Click in the Find box in the top corner, search for Fu-xing. no comment bVd
I am sure there are more bat findings.
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Lucky Star, huh?
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Even though it's ZX, I laughed hard at this...
Bifrost:
In Norse mythology, Bifrost is the bridge between Midgard, the realm of man, and Asgard, the realm of the gods. Since it is the only way for the giants to enter Asgard it is closely guarded by Heimdall, the watchman of the gods.
Bifrost was made of three colors with magic and great skill by the Aesir and is incredibly strong. It is also called Asbru, referring to its makers. At the end of the cosmos, this rainbow-bridge will collapse.
Fits him quite well. -u-'
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It does? Not seeing the similarities...
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While in Bifrosts battle, the door to the left leads to his stage along with the other stage, along with Hunters Camp, being Midgard. To the door on the right, leads to the teleporter to the second to last stage, containing Pandora, Prometheus and Albert, being Asgard.
Plus, while in Bifrosts room, you can see those GIANT robots similiar to the beginning boss. (name escapes me right) Bifrost himself is white, blue and pink. Three colors.
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So heaven is a volcano underwater, and the gods are a trio of crazy robots?
You're pretty easy to please.
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The name Bifrost in general is the connection I found.
Albert does mention the words "I am a God" towards the end, that's part to why made that last topic. But in general, just brain farting an idea out. -_-
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I believe Childre Inarabitta comes from the white hare of Inaba tale...
I can't find an article of it at the moment...
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he obviously comes from there, as Foxtar is the nine tailed fox, and Kelverian is Fluffy.
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Listen to my vast knowledge of mythology:
Laevatein was on of the two swords of Surt/Surtr the fire giant who would end the world with his flames during Ragnarok. The other sword being Surtralogi.
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So we are wondering why Veil chose the name Laevatein instead Surtralogi...?
(or does Veil have ANOTHER ragnarok named Surtalogi O.O ... jk xD)
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Veil
Who? >>;
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Who? >>;
In the Japanese version of Roackman Zero, Weil is actually called Veil (and Vile in Rockman X Series is called VAVA).
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In the Japanese version of Roackman Zero, Weil is actually called Veil (and Vile in Rockman X Series is called VAVA).
You mean Dr. Vile?
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You mean Dr. Vile?
Ahh...yes I do (sorry about that ^^").
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Ahh...yes I do (sorry about that ^^").
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EDIT: dammit I was beat to the punch.
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Just for the sake of it,
(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/6177/060asa2.png)
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Eh, what the hell? That is the first time I have seen artwork from Dr.Weil's first form. Great!
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Eh, what the hell? That is the first time I have seen artwork from Dr.Weil's first form. Great!
Get equipped with Zero Complete Works.
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Time to start surfing the internet for a place where I can import it then, heh. Should be a well earned tribute to the ZERO series.
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Time to start surfing the internet for a place where I can import it then, heh. Should be a well earned tribute to the ZERO series.
Once you find a good online store that ships it to the EU, tell me. Still only have the Japanese version.
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I love the errors that CW has. especially picure errors, where for the small picture mugshot thingies, it shows something tottaly unrelated.
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Once you find a good online store that ships it to the EU, tell me. Still only have the Japanese version.
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Devibat Schilt might be based on Camazotz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camazotz
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Or you know... just the standard gentleman vampire.
A vampire IS a mythological creature after all.
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Aye, there is just simply that too.
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Once you find a good online store that ships it to the EU, tell me. Still only have the Japanese version.
Dunno if Adlibris ships to where you live, but I got MMZOCW on release day.
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Dunno if Adlibris ships to where you live, but I got MMZOCW on release day.
Well, too bad I can't read Swedish and I don't see a button for turning the entire site into English, or German for that matter.
Edit: HOLY [parasitic bomb] NEVERMIND, I just found the book on German Amazon and it's actually deliverable!
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Edit: HOLY [parasitic bomb] NEVERMIND, I just found the book on German Amazon and it's actually deliverable!
Awesome.
Edit: Well I bought it. Thanks for telling.
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I dunno if these fine retailers are in other RPm member countries,
but Borders and Barnes and Noble have it... MMZOCW
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... You mention a demi-god like Hercules and an entity such as the Grim-Reaper yet you don't consider Vampires and their relation to other bloodsucking creatures such as the Vampire Bat to be worth mentioning?
Don't you mean Heracles? *geek laugh* >>;
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Don't you mean Heracles? *geek laugh* >>;
It's merely a choice of which translation you stick to. Whether it's Heracles, Herakles, Hercules or Herkules, it's all the same and all correct.
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Volteel Biblio: possibly none
I thought MMZOCW stated it was based on the "tuna" god of...I believe inuit, but my memory fails me.
What also might help, Harpuia is an original japanese word for Harpy.
-Elpis
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Japanese?...
Harpy ("snatcher" from Latin: harpȳia, Greek: ἅρπυια, harpūia)
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Wait what, it's harpuia in greek...I missed this O_O I AM BLIND.
-BLIND
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Wait what, it's harpuia in greek...I missed this O_O I AM BLIND.
-BLIND
No, he is Blind
(http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/8347/thief2ah3.gif)
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I thought MMZOCW stated it was based on the "tuna" god of...I believe inuit, but my memory fails me.
But he's an electric eel.
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No, he is Blind
(http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/8347/thief2ah3.gif)
XD yay, I can see again >.>
But he's an electric eel.
Hey, I'm just saying what I saw in the concept art/boss section of MMZOCW.
I could be wrong, but I don't have my MMZOCW here to check >.>
-Elpis
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CALCULATING EEL LIGHTNING GOD is the closest thing the MMZOCW entry comes to mythology about him, alas...
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I'll get back to you on this after I re-read the book. it's possible that I just messed it up in my head, beer does that to you, y'know.
-Elpis
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search results:
www.pantheon.org/articles/c/cernunnos.html
'same' /a/aipaloovik.html
/a/ahau-kin.html
/k/khepri.html <~the only I could find, nothing greek wise
/c/camazotz.html
/k/kaang.html
/r/riiti.html
No falcon, rabbit or cactus findings yet.