Question. Do you own every system?
In fact, I'll throw this out there. Who here owns every current gen game system, handheld and console alike?
I do!
Actually, yes I do.
However the majority of gamers who decide to keep up with modern gaming have either a Wii or a Xbox 360/Ps3. And what about them? Do what is being done for "No more Heroes." or Spider-Man Shatterd Dimensions. Look at the Spiderman games in general. In public opinion, they tended to be not so great, however the recent succeeded highly and sold on multiple consoles while taking chances on whether or not anyone would even want the game after Web of Shadows. Release it on multiple consoles or announce the possibility of it being on multiple consoles in the future. Widen the spectrum of purchase to increase sale potential. It's a basic sales strategy. When you bring out a product that hasn't been touched in a long time, and only one reasonable way to get it, you are alienating out more of the people who could have it with current resources.
However the majority of gamers who decide to keep up with modern gaming have either a Wii or a Xbox 360/Ps3. And what about them? Do what is being done for "No more Heroes." or Spider-Man Shatterd Dimensions. Look at the Spiderman games in general. In public opinion, they tended to be not so great, however the recent succeeded highly and sold on multiple consoles while taking chances on whether or not anyone would even want the game after Web of Shadows. Release it on multiple consoles or announce the possibility of it being on multiple consoles in the future. Widen the spectrum of purchase to increase sale potential. It's a basic sales strategy. When you bring out a product that hasn't been touched in a long time, and only one reasonable way to get it, you are alienating out more of the people who could have it with current resources.[/spoiler]
And they all own a DS or DSi, and they will all buy a 3DS, no matter if it's $250-$300.
Odds are, no matter what system Legends 3 game out on, it would have the same selling issues as most MegaMan games do.
The 3d issues are resolved with the slider that adjusts it, Ramzal. Miyamoto specifically requested that it be an analog slider for that very reason. Not everyone perceives images the same way, which is the issue with 3D movies. There is only one setting.
With the 3DS, one can adjust it in real-time and see the effects instantly. Or turn it off completely.
Thus, the problem is resolved.
Question: have you tried the 3DS's analog slider yet? Has anyone?
We don't know how well it works until we try it for ourselves.
However, what if someone does not have a DS or DSi? And remembered Legends on the gaming platforms? It's kind of not fair to make that jump, however I can see why Capcom would not want to make a blue-ray game from the cost of it as well as changing the areas in Legends to high def would be a challange for Capcom, however DmC4 did so perfectly. However, who is to say that it will have most selling issues that most Megaman games have? It is possible that won't be an issue if it is advertised correctly and widely along with constant trailers, and good gameplay. Capcom needs to get Megaman's name out there like it did for MegaMan 9 for it to be successful.
Also, there's an issue I wanted to bring up before. The 3ds is under question of whether or not it will be safe for gaming at all. While watching 3d movies, people have mild senses of discomfort, headaches, dizziness or eye strain. In a game like Megaman, you are constantly being shot -at-. Light energy balls being shot at you. For a prolonged amount of time, that can put a large strain on the retina, rods and cones of your eyes with prolonged gameplay, namely without the use of 3d glasses which minimize that strain.
And what if they put it out on a PS3 or 360 and someone didn't own it? Same with the Wii. MegaMan games are, for the most part, going to sell primarily to us, the fans, and the rest will either pick it up or not, depending on how well Capcom markets it more so than the system it's on. If anything, Trigger being in TatsuCap & Tron being in MvC3 is a decent enough promotion as it is.
Honestly, if you think about it, it makes sense even from a marketing standpoint. The 3DS will sell a fuckton of systems no matter how much they charge for it, because gamers gonna have it. It also has no competition for its sales either, unless Sony comes out with the PSP2 for next year's E3.
In that sense, an N-gage would have sold perfectly. At the time of it's release, others were not. But it failed. Mainly because not many people wanted the hardware. And even then, that's the case for anyone with any system, dude. It doesn't matter if it's DSi, Psp, Ps3, 360 or Wii. Not everyone has every system, true. However what about the people who don't want a 3ds but want Legends? Same story. At the end of the day, it's not avalible to anyone outside of the people who are willing to put their eyes or health at risk at this point. Namely if you don't have 20/20 vision. That's worse because your eyes can't absorb the light equally. And glasses? Say hello to magnified 3d light fed right to the retina. Soooo here's what is being looked at.
3ds:
Unkown Price
Possible retina damage
Possible rod and cone damage
Possible seizures.
Possible stomach sickness.
Not built well for people with one eye or unequal eyesight.
Magnified intensity of light through glasses, increasing the chance for damage.
Not good for people with one eye.
I don't think Megaman Legends 3 is really worth all that. Even at risk. I like the game, love it's release, but really? I like my eyes.
LoL, you cannot compare an N-Gage to an actual gaming system. It was doomed to fail from the beginning, just like the PSPGo! or the Virtual Boy. And those people who want Legends 3 but don't want a 3DS are going to suffer. That's how it works. What if someone wanted Halo but doesn't want a 360, due to the glaring problems it had when it came out? Exclusives are exclusives, no matter how you look at it.
Honestly, this topic should be named Disappointment with 3DS, since that's your main complaint. Fear of the 3DS.
The N-gage, Pspggo!, virtual boys' were all gaming systems. They all have their own reasons for failing, truthfully, but they all had not competition at the time is the point. And yes, exclusives are exclusives. However the jump from platform to 3ds is a huge one. Halo did jump to PC from 360, however it was still for the 360 mainly for the main series. Smart movie by Bungie. Rather than trying to make a portable Xbox and then releasing a Halo game for it.
The jump to 3ds is what is important as Inafune has shown and announced. If it weren't then I wouldn't be having this discussion. I don't fear a 3ds. I am pretty sure I can reduce it to it's basic elements after three to five hours in a lab. :D I do however think my eyesight and health > Legends 3. I am not willing to go and bring harm to myself just to play a video game. By the way, how's that putting your eyes to a light for a minute straight while flicking the light on and off going? It's about the same effect.
Am I the only one who couldn't care less about the 3D in the 3DS and will probably have it turned off most of the time and am more interested in the fan-[tornado fang]ing-tastic line up of games already announced?No, I like the idea of 3D, but that's minor. I'm with you on this.
Just wondering.
Am I the only one who couldn't care less about the 3D in the 3DS and will probably have it turned off most of the time and am more interested in the fan-[tornado fang]ing-tastic line up of games already announced?
Just wondering.
No, they pretty much have the same reason for failing: nothing to offer the majority. And how is it huge? It's jumping to a system which is guaranteed to sell millions.
Clearly you do fear the 3DS, or rather the damage it's going to do to your eyes. The problem isn't the game, it's you. I have no problem with 3D, or especially with a system with which we don't know fully how it's going to look, even though last I heard the vast, vast majority of people who covered it at E3 and so on said it looked phenomenal.
Wrong again. The game is being released on the system, which I agree I do not like the risks nor how I feel after 3d is shot to my eyes. It's not even the -system- it's the science behind it. Basic biology information can tell you the dangers of it, along with playing Legends--a game with CONSTANT lights heading at you....all I can say is bye bye eyes. I was tempted with OoT when I first heard about it. No doubt. With this? No. Way. Which is why I say that I would prefer it to be on a gaming station that is common and around. Financial risk minimized, no chance of a law suit happening, and less blind people in the world or seizures from playing legends 3.
@pb: "Watching a 3D TV can reportedly cause “an epileptic seizure or stroke,” and the following symptoms should be watched out for, “(1) altered vision; (2) lightheadedness; (3) dizziness; (4) involuntary movements such as eye or muscle twitching; (5) confusion; (6) nausea; (7) loss of awareness; (8) convulsions; (9) cramps; and/or (10) disorientation.”
Then there is the “motion sickness, perceptual after effects, disorientation, eye strain, and decreased postural stability,” and possible “damage [to] your eyesight.”
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Yep. 3d tv. Worth it. So very very worth it despite all of this. O:<
So new rule, everyone in here that airs out a tepid complaint after this post over platform choice, says something that I can categorize as "herpa derp I'mma recycle /v/'s tired arguments - $300! Portable! loldash/legends", or mentions the forum's relevant BGM (although at the very least, I'll agree with some of you and your comments on an optional play/pause feature JUST for the sake of being understanding -- I love this personally) is getting a week long stay at "off the [tornado fang]ing forum".
RPM was ORIGINALLY dedicated to LEGENDS specifically, everything else SECONDARY.Really? wow that actually explains a lot.
Because of the lack of ability to put any opinion of the opposite in the other Megaman Legends 3 thread, and at fact of being -banned- for a week for it. [...] Then again, this is the internet. No such thing as free speech depending on situation and location.
You know, as glad as I am that Legends 3 is coming out, it is retarded to put it out on the 3ds. First of all, it's a 300 dollar system. Considering the fact that it's so expensive and for what it is--a series that is largely forgotten in most gaming backgrounds, most people's attention will be towards Loz OOT release, MGS:3 and so forth to the point where Legends won't make that many sales. Sure, die hard Megaman fans will buy it at first, but in general the masses will not bother. It's going to be the same story as to what happened with Megaman Maverick Hunter X. Unless this game is so great that it will put all other Capcom games to shame. Mark my words. It would have been smarter to put it on on systems that people already have (Wii, Ps3, and 360) than to do this. And namely since there's an idea that the minimum wage will jump again lately, gaming prices will increase soon too. So don't be surprised if you are paying $400 for just the 3ds and Legends 3.
If it's not going to use the function it's sold for than why buy it?
One mention of LEGENDS and everyone goes batshit. :\
I wanted 3DS because of Kid Icarus (http://forum.rockmanpm.com/index.php?topic=4837.0) (and so many other games)! Legends 3 made me love the 3DS even more than before~ <3
Well, guess I'll have to put this in here then..
I wanted 3DS because of Kid Icarus (http://forum.rockmanpm.com/index.php?topic=4837.0) (and so many other games)! Legends 3 made me love the 3DS even more than before~ <3
See, this kinda stuff is old, annoying
The way I see it, the 3DS is practically the "Mega Man X" of the consoles.Wait. THEN WHERE ARE THE ARMOR CAPSULES?!?
Wait. THEN WHERE ARE THE ARMOR CAPSULES?!?
Wait. THEN WHERE ARE THE ARMOR CAPSULES?!?
The SOLE reason to buy a new console is because it is more powerful and replaces the preceding one for all newer game releases. Gimmicks like touch screen and 3D are just additional selling points. So why can't people just want the 3DS because it's a more powerful DS that will be having all new games on it?
The SOLE reason to buy a new console is because it is more powerful and replaces the preceding one for all newer game releases. Gimmicks like touch screen and 3D are just additional selling points. So why can't people just want the 3DS because it's a more powerful DS that will be having all new games on it?
Let people be happy. Save the complaints for when the damn thing comes out. Heck I'm sure even some of the people singing it's praises will complain then. But at least the game will be out. Or hell even the console to be out and priced. ::)Thank you! That's what I've been trying to say. In part.
Just my opinion.
@pb: "Watching a 3D TV can reportedly cause “an epileptic seizure or stroke,” and the following symptoms should be watched out for, “(1) altered vision; (2) lightheadedness; (3) dizziness; (4) involuntary movements such as eye or muscle twitching; (5) confusion; (6) nausea; (7) loss of awareness; (8) convulsions; (9) cramps; and/or (10) disorientation.”You, sir, are as paranoid as Sheldon Cooper. The exact same thing is said of ordinary video games due to light sensitivity conditions. The 3DS will not burn away anyone's retina. It will irritate a small minority of people in the same manner that small screens period, and video games period, do. This isn't even exclusive to electronics; some people can tolerate reading in a car, and others cannot. Whether you have previously demonstrated sensitivity to one particular light/motion condition doesn't say how sensitive you will be to another. Common sense mandates that for the sake of one's health, one must pay attention to their body's own signs regarding individual tolerances.
Then there is the “motion sickness, perceptual after effects, disorientation, eye strain, and decreased postural stability,” and possible “damage [to] your eyesight.”
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Yep. 3d tv. Worth it. So very very worth it despite all of this. O:<
The SOLE reason to buy a new console is because it is more powerful and replaces the preceding one for all newer game releases. Gimmicks like touch screen and 3D are just additional selling points. So why can't people just want the 3DS because it's a more powerful DS that will be having all new games on it?This. You know why I bought a DS? Because it had [tornado fang]ing SUPER MARIO 64 WITH YOSHI IN IT. That's it. I did not give a rat's ass that it had two screens. The touch screen was neither the savior nor death of gaming. It was just some nifty extra.
I wanted 3DS because of Kid Icarus (http://forum.rockmanpm.com/index.php?topic=4837.0) (and so many other games)! Legends 3 made me love the 3DS even more than before~ <3Same. Watching the trailer again now. 8)
Blues, I think you just got the best post transition achievement just now. XD(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/dakirbymaster/achievement.png)
*watches trailer*
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/dakirbymaster/achievement.png)is there a "You win" Achievement? Because you just unlocked it Mirby. XD
RPM was ORIGINALLY dedicated to LEGENDS specifically, everything else SECONDARY.
I was tempted to pull a Kanye on the 3DS, but yknow what, I wont.
Yes, ORIGINALLY. That would imply it isn't anymore, no?No, it still is dedicated to Legends. But now the other series have taken equal precedence as well.
No, it still is dedicated to Legends. But now the other series have taken equal precedence as well.I believe you just contradicted yourself.
half the members weren't even around for that. More than half. You included, so maybe you should stop acting like you know how the site works when you are still a relative noob compared to the rest of us here.
Why is this thread so popular?
Requesting lock, if needed.
Note: Stop hazing Mirby as well, this isn't the first time I've seen you go after her specifically. I won't stand for that bullshit.
That wasn't a hazing. It was a direct and serious warning.