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on: December 31, 2009, 02:10:43 AM
Okay, here's something I've always been curious as to the origins of: those vertical scars over Sigma's eyes. So far, I've found 3 different origins of the scars from 3 different sources:

Origin 1: Zero did it
Source: Cutscene from, I think, X4

Origin 2: X used Shining Finger on Sigma's face (editted)
Source: Day of Sigma OVA

Origin 3: Sigma did it to himself
Source: Rockman X Manga

In all honesty, I think that the most likely one would be Origin 3, since every new body he gets has 'em. Still, what does anyone else make of this? Are there even more origins to Sigma's eye scars? Or has this topic already been done?

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Reply #1 on: December 31, 2009, 02:13:01 AM
Origin 2: X's hand got charge up, he grabbed Sigma's face, and he slashed down
Source: Day of Sigma OVA
That was a Shining Finger, good sir.



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Reply #2 on: December 31, 2009, 02:15:12 AM
That was a Shining Finger, good sir.

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Reply #3 on: December 31, 2009, 02:15:41 AM
That was a Shining Finger, good sir.

I know, I had a brain fart.

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Reply #4 on: December 31, 2009, 02:17:00 AM
The Shining Finger one is the official one because it's the newest one and because Capcom was the one behind the Day of Sigma >_>



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Reply #5 on: December 31, 2009, 02:23:51 AM
It's a combination of all of the above, actually.

Though Zero inflicted a similar wound to one side of Sigma's face, he also tore of the entirety of Sigma's skin on the other. Therefore it would only account for one of the two scars. Furthermore, Sigma had gotten his whole face repaired after the incident. However, his loss against Zero definitely was a crushing blow to his ego and is clearly remembered by him.

It is after X's attack that Sigma left the scars he was dealt with, sort of like a symbolic gesture of how X's influenced Sigma. But in that same way, it is also a symbolic gesture toward Zero, who once inflicted a similar wound. Indeed, as we all know, it were both X and Zero that were unwillingly responsible for Sigma's change of allegiance.

Then, with his subsequent revivals, Sigma's scars never went away; he keeps on re-adding them, reminding X and Zero of their connection.

What the manga showed doesn't apply to the games, though. This is because Day of Sigma presents a completely different scenario of Sigma revealing his rebellion.



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Reply #6 on: December 31, 2009, 02:32:36 AM
What about them lines in X8? I mean, does that even COUNT?

...When Larry the reploid accountant goes maverick of his own accord, he's certainly formidable during tax season, but he isn't going to provide X the challenge needed to make him grow as a warrior and reach his potential.


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Reply #7 on: December 31, 2009, 02:53:40 AM
He prolly didin't finish the body on time, to finish the head, like in X6 when Siggy was in near disrepair and looked ready to fall apart.

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Reply #8 on: December 31, 2009, 03:26:12 AM
Gundam Reference Much?
guess what X and Sigma's english VA's in X8 and MHX worked on.



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Reply #9 on: December 31, 2009, 03:27:45 AM
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Reply #10 on: December 31, 2009, 04:24:39 AM
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Reply #11 on: December 31, 2009, 07:06:45 AM
It's a combination of all of the above, actually.

Though Zero inflicted a similar wound to one side of Sigma's face, he also tore of the entirety of Sigma's skin on the other. Therefore it would only account for one of the two scars. Furthermore, Sigma had gotten his whole face repaired after the incident. However, his loss against Zero definitely was a crushing blow to his ego and is clearly remembered by him.

It is after X's attack that Sigma left the scars he was dealt with, sort of like a symbolic gesture of how X's influenced Sigma. But in that same way, it is also a symbolic gesture toward Zero, who once inflicted a similar wound. Indeed, as we all know, it were both X and Zero that were unwillingly responsible for Sigma's change of allegiance.

Then, with his subsequent revivals, Sigma's scars never went away; he keeps on re-adding them, reminding X and Zero of their connection.

What the manga showed doesn't apply to the games, though. This is because Day of Sigma presents a completely different scenario of Sigma revealing his rebellion.

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Reply #12 on: December 31, 2009, 07:13:55 AM
He prolly didin't finish the body on time, to finish the head, like in X6 when Siggy was in near disrepair and looked ready to fall apart.
I meant the Copy Sigma body, but him too. now that you mention it. :\

...When Larry the reploid accountant goes maverick of his own accord, he's certainly formidable during tax season, but he isn't going to provide X the challenge needed to make him grow as a warrior and reach his potential.


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Reply #13 on: January 01, 2010, 06:54:38 AM
What about them lines in X8? I mean, does that even COUNT?
As ridiculous as this sounds, X8's artist was mainly concerned with giving Sigma an "official" chin. ::)

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Reply #14 on: January 01, 2010, 07:08:25 AM
Screw you, mongrels! X Manga was/is [tornado fang]ing badass, and will always be OFFICIAL to me.
Also, that scene with Sigma doing this scars to himself was so [tornado fang]ing bad ass I felt like beating my nephew.
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Reply #15 on: January 01, 2010, 07:25:17 AM
I've seen the scan, and regardless of my general indifference to Iwamoto's art style, that scenario simply cannot compare to:

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Reply #16 on: January 01, 2010, 09:48:11 PM
It's a combination of all of the above, actually.

Though Zero inflicted a similar wound to one side of Sigma's face, he also tore of the entirety of Sigma's skin on the other. Therefore it would only account for one of the two scars. Furthermore, Sigma had gotten his whole face repaired after the incident. However, his loss against Zero definitely was a crushing blow to his ego and is clearly remembered by him.

It is after X's attack that Sigma left the scars he was dealt with, sort of like a symbolic gesture of how X's influenced Sigma. But in that same way, it is also a symbolic gesture toward Zero, who once inflicted a similar wound. Indeed, as we all know, it were both X and Zero that were unwillingly responsible for Sigma's change of allegiance.

Then, with his subsequent revivals, Sigma's scars never went away; he keeps on re-adding them, reminding X and Zero of their connection.

What the manga showed doesn't apply to the games, though. This is because Day of Sigma presents a completely different scenario of Sigma revealing his rebellion.

my theory was that X used his hidden power to tear the very fabric of Sigma's DNA Data with the shining finger, which resulted in Sigma having  scars in every body he possessed- his head was the only thing that remained the same- the mark of his DNA and X was so powerful that he altered it.



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Reply #17 on: January 02, 2010, 01:28:38 AM
Sigma's scars change color between the games, though.



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Reply #18 on: January 02, 2010, 01:31:24 AM
Sigma's scars change color between the games, though.

Is that cause he gains new fighting abilities each game?  XD



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Reply #19 on: January 02, 2010, 04:31:29 AM
Is that cause he gains new fighting abilities each game?  XD
Oh God, I just had an image of Sigma with his scars changing colors according to the special weapon he has equipped. XD

...When Larry the reploid accountant goes maverick of his own accord, he's certainly formidable during tax season, but he isn't going to provide X the challenge needed to make him grow as a warrior and reach his potential.


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Reply #20 on: January 02, 2010, 05:00:04 AM
Oh God, I just had an image of Sigma with his scars changing colors according to the special weapon he has equipped. XD

Well, if we ever get a playable Sigma that'd be quite an interesting idea!  XD

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Reply #21 on: January 02, 2010, 10:50:42 PM
He prolly didin't finish the body on time, to finish the head, like in X6 when Siggy was in near disrepair and looked ready to fall apart.

That makes sense. Also, X6 Sigma was frickin' easy (with Shadow Armor, at least). It helped that I only really used X so he got all the life-ups.

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Reply #22 on: January 05, 2010, 06:13:47 AM
Anyone notice that Sigma's Belial form only has one scar?

Wonder what that means?



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Reply #23 on: January 07, 2010, 09:59:35 PM
His Belial form is only half as emo.

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Reply #24 on: January 07, 2010, 10:08:15 PM
Sigma as a while in X8 barely has the scars. Copy Sigma has those pathetic two lines going past the back of his head. and for Belieal Sigma, it seems more like the Red eye's glow not a scar.

...When Larry the reploid accountant goes maverick of his own accord, he's certainly formidable during tax season, but he isn't going to provide X the challenge needed to make him grow as a warrior and reach his potential.