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Title: Little busters.
Post by: Cpie on June 19, 2009, 10:37:38 PM
  I was watching day of Siggy, and I was wondering: When X/ Zero form the buster, where do their hands go?
Title: Re: Little busters.
Post by: Protoman Blues on June 19, 2009, 10:38:52 PM
I always imagined that they went right under the crotch plate.
Title: Re: Little busters.
Post by: Sub Tank on June 19, 2009, 10:43:41 PM
I think it works like a warp pipe, so level 8-1.
Title: Re: Little busters.
Post by: Klavier Gavin on June 19, 2009, 10:43:50 PM
I was watching day of Siggy, and I was wondering: When X/ Zero form the buster, where do their hands go?

Their busters are their hands.

1:51 - 1:55 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtV7mwTSREQ)

I always imagined that they went right under the crotch plate.
I think it works like a warp pipe, so level 8-1.

Or these. 8D
Title: Re: Little busters.
Post by: Jericho on June 19, 2009, 10:45:43 PM
Is it too late to say magically disappear and reappear yet? XD
Title: Re: Little busters.
Post by: SoulAnimal on June 19, 2009, 10:46:22 PM
Aw man , i thought there hands went in the buster
Title: Re: Little busters.
Post by: Klavier Gavin on June 19, 2009, 10:46:50 PM
Is it too late to say magic yet? XD

It never is.
Title: Re: Little busters.
Post by: Cpie on June 19, 2009, 10:47:31 PM
Their busters are their hands.

1:51 - 1:55 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtV7mwTSREQ)

Or these. 8D
 That's not what I meant. When the hand goes out, it shoes just a white buster. So what happens exactly?

 
I always imagined that they went right under the crotch plate.
Ewww never shake their hands then.

I think it works like a warp pipe, so level 8-1.
what?
Title: Re: Little busters.
Post by: Sub Tank on June 19, 2009, 10:48:34 PM
I think that was bowser's castle in mario bros 1.
Title: Re: Little busters.
Post by: Cpie on June 19, 2009, 10:49:30 PM
 AAAh  XD Sorry didn't know. I loathe Mario.
Title: Re: Little busters.
Post by: Jericho on June 19, 2009, 10:50:01 PM
what?

Sub was talking about the warp pipe that took you to Level 8-1 in the original Super Mario Bros.'

Edit - Beaten. Also

AAAh  XD Sorry didn't know. I loathe Mario.

My childhood, you stabbed it. :'(
Title: Re: Little busters.
Post by: Cpie on June 19, 2009, 10:51:54 PM

My childhood, you stabbed it. :'(

  'S mah Job! :P
Title: Re: Little busters.
Post by: Acid on June 19, 2009, 10:55:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNL6fQysl08

Start 0:18-0:19
Title: Re: Little busters.
Post by: Jericho on June 19, 2009, 10:59:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNL6fQysl08

Start 0:18-0:19

I was looking for this actually. Then there was that one scene I forgot where that showed X's arm give off some light like alchemy was occurring and the buster appeared. I'm not sure if that's Day of Sigma or not.
Title: Re: Little busters.
Post by: Protoman Blues on June 19, 2009, 11:37:31 PM
Maybe their hands were never there to begin with!   :o
Title: Re: Little busters.
Post by: Hypershell on June 20, 2009, 12:06:15 AM
The hands are nowhere.  If you think the default buster design is mystifying, check the half-hollowed Shadow Armor.

Weren't we settled on the whole nanite de-/re-construction idea, or no?
Title: Re: Little busters.
Post by: Gaia on June 20, 2009, 12:22:53 AM
The hands are nowhere.  If you think the default buster design is mystifying, check the half-hollowed Shadow Armor.

Weren't we settled on the whole nanite de-/re-construction idea, or no?

I think people like to debate on this sorta thing, though I do agree on X3's PSX opening about the buster, but hot damn the JP opening music of the PSX/Sega Saturn intro is much more catchy than it's US counterpart.
Title: Re: Little busters.
Post by: Gotham Ranger on June 20, 2009, 12:42:24 AM
Nanomachines.

Game Mechanics.

SCIENCE!
Title: Re: Little busters.
Post by: Sky Child on June 20, 2009, 02:15:10 AM
their hands....


....go up their butts
Title: Re: Little busters.
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 20, 2009, 03:17:56 AM
Their hands open up to reveal a buster, just like a Transformer!
Title: Re: Little busters.
Post by: Flame on June 20, 2009, 04:35:36 AM
X aims his normal arm at an enemy.
v
v
??????????
v
v
It is now a buster.
v
v
Profit!
Title: Re: Little busters.
Post by: Gotham Ranger on June 20, 2009, 05:05:47 AM
X aims his normal arm at an enemy.
v
v
??????????
v
v
It is now a buster.
v
v
CHARGE SHOT!
Fixd. Profit joke is lame.
Title: Re: Little busters.
Post by: HyperSonicEXE on June 20, 2009, 05:12:23 AM
If ya saw the X3 animated intro, you definitely saw X's hand go back into his buster. I'd say it just kinda folds up/deconstructs from there.

And the whole Shining Finger thing in MHX definitely seems to show that X can reroute energy to it. Of course metal is a great conductor anyway, but the point still stands.
Title: Re: Little busters.
Post by: Flame on June 20, 2009, 05:34:06 AM
If ya saw the X3 animated intro, you definitely saw X's hand go back into his buster. I'd say it just kinda folds up/deconstructs from there.

And the whole Shining Finger thing in MHX definitely seems to show that X can reroute energy to it. Of course metal is a great conductor anyway, but the point still stands.
X actually did what he normally does with the buster, but without turning his hand into the buster itself, because he couldn't.
Fixd. Profit joke is lame.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rFerfqTNjI
Title: Re: Little busters.
Post by: Gotham Ranger on June 20, 2009, 05:48:12 AM
can't be watching youtube on my PC, yo
Title: Re: Little busters.
Post by: Flame on June 20, 2009, 05:56:05 AM
why?
Title: Re: Little busters.
Post by: Gotham Ranger on June 20, 2009, 05:57:57 AM
shitty computer, ten years technologically inferior
Title: Re: Little busters.
Post by: Flame on June 20, 2009, 07:23:09 AM
I see.
Title: Re: Little busters.
Post by: Acrosurge on June 24, 2009, 05:39:33 PM
Weren't we settled on the whole nanite de-/re-construction idea, or no?
Either that or the matter/energy transformation.  Both work for me.  Also, the X3 intro Buster transformation would seem to be overruled by more recent animated sequences from Maverick Hunter X as well as X:Command Mission, showing both X and Zero's Buster transformations to be accompanied by a flash of light (in MHX's instance, this is shown multiple times).
Title: Re: Little busters.
Post by: Align on June 24, 2009, 06:33:09 PM
Unless it's different between busters!
Title: Re: Little busters.
Post by: Hypershell on July 02, 2009, 12:51:06 AM
The X3 intro really isn't the best source material anyway.  X, Zero, and Sigma all change between X1 and X2 forms.  X kinda works since it's an armor-swap (even though an on-the-field swap between different armors has only been demonstrated in Command Mission), and Sigma's could be rationalized as a rapid beam in/out I suppose (he's supposed to have entirely different bodies).  But Zero just shouldn't be doing that, especially since he's going backwards.

Unarmored X is the only character for which the whole hand-folding thing is even remotely feasible.  Pretty much every other character/armor's buster looks nothing like their arm.  And even unarmored X leaves a few issues, which you can see if you examine the X3 intro closely.  It still has to have X's arm shift pretty significantly, since  X's arm doesn't fit the buster in either thickness or wrist shape (X's wrists are not circular; the top side is longer than the bottom).

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And the whole Shining Finger thing in MHX definitely seems to show that X can reroute energy to it. Of course metal is a great conductor anyway, but the point still stands.
While I personally buy that, some people think it was a sort of ki attack (ghetto Hadouken).  Since he's a robot, I'm not sure how much difference that makes.

X aims his normal arm at an enemy.
v
v
??????????
v
v
It is now a buster.
v
v
Profit!
Hey, it worked for MMZ.
Title: Re: Little busters.
Post by: Fragman on July 03, 2009, 02:30:27 AM
This argument has gone on throughout the Megaman series.  Super Adventure Rockman for instance showed Megaman doing a shotgun style lock and load to form his buster, but most cases either would cut away and have his buster suddenly appear or it would appear in a flash of light such as in day of Sigma.  Let's just ignore that abomination Ruby Spears cartoon no matter how much some fans want to cling to it.

The Flash of light and cutaway methods seem to be most common.  In either case we can probably assume that whatever transformation goes on, be it mechanical, nanomechanical, or even some kind of energy conversion, that the flash or cutaway is intended to show that it occurs too quickly to see with the naked eye.

If you want to work in the SAR and X3 intro versions we could assume that these are ultra slow mo shots to show you what is physically happening.  At least in those revisions of the buster, as X would certainly have different transformations for different armors and later X busters and classic Megaman has had his buster upgraded at least twice since then.

I'll stick to "Too fast to see" explanation myself, as it fits with the gameplay with having almost no delay between normal hand at the side, and firing buster with the press of a button.
Title: Re: Little busters.
Post by: Flame on July 03, 2009, 02:40:28 AM
nano technology I say. If New Gens have the ability to change their apearance and physically become someone else, without using holograms, then I think similar can be applied to Busters, no? they become the buster. (in the flash of light ones.)
Title: Re: Little busters.
Post by: Zan on July 03, 2009, 03:05:19 AM
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I'll stick to "Too fast to see" explanation myself, as it fits with the gameplay with having almost no delay between normal hand at the side, and firing buster with the press of a button.

Well, it is "too fast to see" according to the sourcebooks. They actually list the fraction of a second needed for that transformation.
Title: Re: Little busters.
Post by: Hypershell on July 03, 2009, 06:35:58 PM
And I suppose that means that a couple centuries later, Copy X just shows it off 'cuz he's that damn badass.
Title: Re: Little busters.
Post by: Flame on July 03, 2009, 07:11:08 PM
Well, He THINKS he is, anyway...